Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. I'm strong and Getty enough,
Speaker 2: he Armstrong and Getty.
Speaker 3: The protests in Chicago as President Trump escalates his threats
Speaker 3: against the third largest city in the nation. Trump resharing
Speaker 3: a manipulated image on social media that places him in
Speaker 3: front of the city, the image referencing the iconic nineteen
Speaker 3: seventy nine film Apocalypse Now. The caption reads, I love
Speaker 3: the smell of deportations in the morning. Chicago About to
Speaker 3: find out why it's called the Department of War, a
Speaker 3: reference to his Friday executive order rebranding the Department of
Speaker 3: Defense the Department of War.
Speaker 2: We're not going to war. We're going to clean up
Speaker 2: our city. We're going to clean them up so they
Speaker 2: don't kill five people every week. That's not war, that's
Speaker 2: common sense.
Speaker 4: Well, he said that a full day later, after the
Speaker 4: idiotic mainstream media dance to his tune, jumped to debate
Speaker 4: with so little discipline, how have you not figured out
Speaker 4: in a dozen years that he says over the top
Speaker 4: things gets you to react to them like they're literally true,
Speaker 4: embarrass yourselves.
Speaker 2: Oh I don't see it that way. That's that's there.
Speaker 2: That's catnip to them. They get to rail against Trump
Speaker 2: and they're mostly lefty viewers love it. How has that
Speaker 2: worked for you? Though he got elected twice? I just
Speaker 2: saw this suck in. Their numbers are declining by the moment.
Speaker 2: Is to forget how you A lot of them are
Speaker 2: true believers, They're they're just they're delusional.
Speaker 4: Yes, he said, Chicago's about to find out why.
Speaker 2: It's called the Department of War.
Speaker 4: And then I saw serious conversations on CNN. What would
Speaker 4: this mean? You think the Marines are going to be
Speaker 4: sent in, will be will be shot?
Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You morons? Yeah it is.
Speaker 2: You gotta admit so to have the president of the
Speaker 2: High States, I say something like that is looney to Yes.
Speaker 4: Yes, if I didn't know who Donald Trump was, I
Speaker 4: would pick that. But having been around him for oh
Speaker 4: more than a decade, now I realize he's just he's
Speaker 4: the troll in chief.
Speaker 2: So the troll and chief has threatened for weeks to
Speaker 2: send the National ar to Chicago. What is clearly happening
Speaker 2: is an immigration crackdown where ice will be going in
Speaker 2: and getting rid of criminals and scumbags, and also illegals
Speaker 2: who are merely illegals. Probably, But whether the National Guard
Speaker 2: ends up involved at all is almost entirely functional whether
Speaker 2: there's violence and insanity. If there's violence and insanity and
Speaker 2: that prevents ICE from doing their jobs, they will Trump
Speaker 2: will send in the National Guard.
Speaker 4: Let me interrupt briefly for a tease. Remember to ask
Speaker 4: me about Prune's life later. Oh, okay, remember member discussion
Speaker 4: for Friday, Michael Wright that out. Remember to ask me
Speaker 4: about got it? Okay, something to look forward to. H
Speaker 4: fat child mutilator JB. Pritzker, the Democrat governor of Illinois.
Speaker 4: I said, and I quote, the President of the United
Speaker 4: States is threatening to go to war with an American city.
Speaker 2: This is not a joke. This is not normal. Yes,
Speaker 2: Illinois won't be intimidated by a wantity dictator literally a joke. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's it's an effort at humor designed to provoke laughter
Speaker 2: or well, as Jack said, it's it's a joke anyway.
Speaker 2: So a couple of notes about oh, you know what
Speaker 2: I think, I think idiot Brandon Johnson is quoted in
Speaker 2: here somewhere.
Speaker 4: Brandon dictator child mutilator for governor and for the mayor,
Speaker 4: you just.
Speaker 2: Go with idiot. Yeah, yeah, As Jeff Blair wrote a
Speaker 2: great piece for the National Review, he's talking about the
Speaker 2: shot spotter thing. Are you familiar with shot spotter? It's
Speaker 2: a technology that is used in a number of places,
Speaker 2: including Chicago, was to echo locate live gunfire in bad
Speaker 2: neighborhoods so the cops can get there quickly and stop
Speaker 2: the blood lighting if they can. Well, activists, woke lunatics
Speaker 2: have long said it's a tool of racial oppression because
Speaker 2: it sends the cops to black neighborhoods disproportionately. Do I
Speaker 2: even have to explain what's lunatic about that opinion? Probably
Speaker 2: not anyway. So Brandon Johnson, the athnore mentioned halfwit, promised
Speaker 2: during his election campaign to get rid of it. But
Speaker 2: then you remember we were there for that the DNC,
Speaker 2: the Democratic National Convention, came to town when in the summer,
Speaker 2: when crime is at it's worst. Anyway, so Johnson hypocritically
Speaker 2: announced he would be canceling it only after a seven
Speaker 2: month extension to get the city through the Democratic Convention
Speaker 2: until September. And then, and Jeff writes, here's the whole
Speaker 2: story where it transitions from outrage to farce and one
Speaker 2: of the most inexplicably stupid moves of recent Chicago history.
Speaker 2: He announced this extension and deal while simult simultaneously insulting
Speaker 2: shot Spotter as a company in a product at a
Speaker 2: press conference without remembering to get shot Spotter's signature on
Speaker 2: the extension first. Well, shot Spotter quite understandably told Johnson
Speaker 2: they were declining his literally insulting terms and they were
Speaker 2: simply going to switch off their services the next day,
Speaker 2: and he had to beg them for an extra two
Speaker 2: months of winding down to the tune of eight point
Speaker 2: six million dollars, which the shot Spotter finally said, okay,
Speaker 2: we'll do it for that. So nice job, Brandon, And
Speaker 2: there's actually more to that. It's just ridiculous, But I
Speaker 2: wanted to get to at least part of this. Rich Lowry,
Speaker 2: the fabulous editor in chief of the National Review. Brandon
Speaker 2: Johnson is a moron, is the title of his piece,
Speaker 2: If Mayoral Idiots Here or a justification for a National
Speaker 2: Guard deployment? Michael grab A grab a clip of Brandon
Speaker 2: Johnson saying something idiotic? Would you through the years. Uh.
Speaker 2: If mayoral idiocy were justification for a National Guard deployment,
Speaker 2: the troops would be headed to Chicago right now. And
Speaker 2: he's talking about Johnson the other day, going on and
Speaker 2: on about we cannot incarcerate our way out of violence.
Speaker 2: We've already tried that, and we've ended up with the
Speaker 2: largest prison population in the world without solving the problems
Speaker 2: of crime and violence.
Speaker 4: We're addicted to jails and incarceration, another prison. Just keep
Speaker 4: locking people up until you don't have crime. Who the
Speaker 4: people who break the law? Yes, that's an interesting policy.
Speaker 4: It's racist, it's immoral, it is unholy. It is not
Speaker 4: the way to drive violence down.
Speaker 2: We cannot return to the same failed strategies that got
Speaker 2: us here in the first place. And then Rich Lowry
Speaker 2: goes point by point, year by year and points out
Speaker 2: how incarceration is indeed an answer to violence. It works consistently.
Speaker 2: Course it does. There's a sense.
Speaker 4: Offenders from harming anybody else well, And there's a small
Speaker 4: percentage of people that are ever gonna steal or hurt people.
Speaker 4: It's a small percentage. You lock them up, then you're done, right.
Speaker 2: So Chicago had nearly six hundred murders last year and
Speaker 2: the eighth highest homicide rate in the nation. And by
Speaker 2: the way, homicide rates can be as misleading as they
Speaker 2: are informative, because in a city like Chicago, you have
Speaker 2: vast swathes of it where nobody ever gets killed. And
Speaker 2: it's a big city both geographically and in terms of population.
Speaker 2: So what you're talking about is the Mrgery neighborhoods which
Speaker 2: have an astonishing homicide rate, and those people don't deserve
Speaker 2: to die just because they're black and the offenders are black. Brandon,
Speaker 2: We're gonna defend our democracy in the city of Chicago.
Speaker 2: We're gonna protect the humanity of every single person in
Speaker 2: the city of Chicago. And we got the baddest freaking
Speaker 2: labor movement in the city of Chicago birth right here. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I could do twenty minutes without taking a breath on
Speaker 2: how Brandon and his friends have ruined Chicago public schools
Speaker 2: because the teachers' union runs them for the union and
Speaker 2: not for the poor little children, who again frequently are
Speaker 2: black or brown or whatever.
Speaker 4: So just politically, though overall, I think the wind so
Speaker 4: easily goes to the side that's trying to crack down
Speaker 4: on crime. People hear those numbers, the fifty some shot,
Speaker 4: the eight dead from Labor Day weekend, and when you
Speaker 4: hear either the governor of the mayor saying we're going
Speaker 4: to defend Chicago against what trying to stop that?
Speaker 2: What is that? Yeah? We should probably thank Brandon Johnson
Speaker 2: as a country because Chicago really has developed some great
Speaker 2: trauma surgeons because they trace so many gunshot wounds. You
Speaker 2: can have almost sixty people shot and only eight of
Speaker 2: them die because the prowess of Chicago's surgeons. And we
Speaker 2: tip our cap to you. Quick note. Charles Layman and
Speaker 2: the Manhattan Institute pointed two studies that show the effect
Speaker 2: of incarceration, finding one in one. After Maryland reduced jail
Speaker 2: time for young adults, offenders committed on average two point
Speaker 2: eight criminal acts and one and a half serious crimes
Speaker 2: during the time they otherwise would have been behind bars. Wow.
Speaker 2: That's per person. Wow. And it's not true that we
Speaker 2: drastically increased incarceration without effect. Imprisonment began to rise in
Speaker 2: response to a historic crime wave beginning about a half
Speaker 2: century ago in the infamous late sixties early seventies, after
Speaker 2: which that wave finally receded. You can argue how much
Speaker 2: putting people in prison was responsible for the reduction crime pure,
Speaker 2: but they clearly played a part. Homicide victimization rates doubled
Speaker 2: between nineteen sixty and nineteen eighty and didn't begin a
Speaker 2: consistent decline until the nineteen nineties. From nineteen seventy to
Speaker 2: ZHO five, a staggering six hundred and seventy four thousand
Speaker 2: Americans were murdered more than died in all of our
Speaker 2: wars from World War II on. We've locked up the
Speaker 2: people who killed other people, and the murder rate plunged. Brandon,
Speaker 2: you moron.
Speaker 4: And it's such a depressing story. Now how often you
Speaker 4: hear about I don't even want to mention some of them.
Speaker 4: I heard over the weekend, Just a tragic story, and
Speaker 4: the perpetrator had done this before and they were still out.
Speaker 2: It's just awful. And my final final note on this
Speaker 2: is you look at the emotional data free greeting card
Speaker 2: illogic of a Brandon Johnson, and you know who is
Speaker 2: convinced by those awful arguments. Either the very naive, or
Speaker 2: the completely ideological, or the very young, which is why
Speaker 2: progressives from Britain to the United States are so enthusiastic
Speaker 2: about getting sixteen and seventeen year olds to vote, because
Speaker 2: you can convince a sixteen year old that, look at
Speaker 2: these incarceration rates, that's proof that it's racist, and therefore
Speaker 2: we must turn all these people loose from jails because
Speaker 2: sixteen year olds lack the life experience and critical thinking
Speaker 2: to understand what is so false, and man, you gotta
Speaker 2: fight that voting. The age ought to be thirty, never
Speaker 2: mind sixteen.
Speaker 4: Well, I overnighted prunes from Amazon and update on that
Speaker 4: story from Friday, and a bunch of other things that
Speaker 4: we need to get to. World leaders coming to the
Speaker 4: White House again to talk about Russian and Ukraine, and
Speaker 4: that'll be at the White House today and tomorrow. Much
Speaker 4: stuff to get to stay here.
Speaker 2: Scientists say being more optimistic as we age could be
Speaker 2: an early sign of dementia. In a related story, Biden
Speaker 2: likes his chances in twenty twenty eight, just came across this.
Speaker 4: Those blue light glasses you wear, pretty good chance that
Speaker 4: they don't do anything. Latest indication from the American Academy
Speaker 4: of Ophthalmology blue light filtering glasses don't meaningfully reduce eyestrain
Speaker 4: or improve sleep or anything else according to the idea
Speaker 4: being it's the blue light from the devices that somehow
Speaker 4: do something to your brain.
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah. It all seemed very reasonable. It seems
Speaker 2: reasonable for me.
Speaker 4: I'm not like mocking anybody who believed it made sense.
Speaker 4: But they're saying their latest studies don't show that there's
Speaker 4: any reason to think they do anything. Really, Okay, all right,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 2: What's funny, there's a greater point there. The whole we
Speaker 2: listen to the science, or you know, I represent science
Speaker 2: or whatever, this view that science having pronounced something is
Speaker 2: always right and is never overcome and questioning science is
Speaker 2: somehow a sin and a terrible thing to do. Now,
Speaker 2: that's precisely what science is. It's questioning everything all the time.
Speaker 2: That's what you're supposed to do.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and studies are hard to replicate and often you
Speaker 4: get different results. And if this story had any politics
Speaker 4: behind it, like if Joe Biden had emphasized blue light
Speaker 4: reading glasses and Trump had been against it or something,
Speaker 4: I mean, there would be you know, everything would be
Speaker 4: different around the story.
Speaker 2: Right, So everybody.
Speaker 4: Digs in, Like when you get that new news that
Speaker 4: came out last week that the ocean hasn't actually a risen.
Speaker 2: I've got more details on that. Okay, cool, yeah, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: depending on what town you're and there would either be
Speaker 2: government subsidized blue light classes for junkies or another places
Speaker 2: bonfires built in blue light classes.
Speaker 4: They were being smashed and burned right right, or people
Speaker 4: be screaming at you if you were wearing blue light glasses.
Speaker 4: Light not p America. Oh my gosh, I'll tell this
Speaker 4: story later. I went to an amazing ceremony yesterday, first
Speaker 4: one i'd been to of when a kid in boy
Speaker 4: Scouts gets his Eagle Scout.
Speaker 2: Oh was that powerful something?
Speaker 4: Because my son is in Scouts now, and if somebody
Speaker 4: in your troop gets Eagle Scout, everybody goes and all
Speaker 4: the parents and it's a huge deal. I didn't know this,
Speaker 4: very very cool, but I want to talk about that
Speaker 4: later because I'd had one picture in there from when
Speaker 4: he was in Scouting during COVID and I'm sure they
Speaker 4: were just following their county state laws at the time
Speaker 4: in California. Two kids in a canoe in a lake
Speaker 4: with masks on, and I'm sure they were just doing
Speaker 4: what they had to do to stay out of trouble.
Speaker 2: But I thought that is the craziest thing. That is
Speaker 2: one of the stupidest things I have ever witnessed by proxy. Oh,
Speaker 2: you could not pass a respiratory disease from one person
Speaker 2: to another outdoor in a canoe outdoors if you were
Speaker 2: promised a million dollars if you could do it, not
Speaker 2: unless you leapt on top of them and coughed into
Speaker 2: their face intensely for about half an hour.
Speaker 4: But I'm sure there was the rules, and there was
Speaker 4: the only way they're going to be able to get
Speaker 4: to do what they wanted to do. So A Friday
Speaker 4: ended up talking about to a certain situation I got
Speaker 4: and why I needed prunes according to my doctor. And
Speaker 4: again I emphasize I clearly am not using this show
Speaker 4: to try to get dates, because if I were a date,
Speaker 4: if this show we're a dating app, that would be
Speaker 4: a hard swipe.
Speaker 2: Left me talking about eating prunes.
Speaker 4: But so so the doctor told me get a bag
Speaker 4: of prunes and then you start with one a day,
Speaker 4: and if that doesn't work, you go to a day
Speaker 4: and you just keep upping it until you became a
Speaker 4: you know, as regular as d West mail is what
Speaker 4: you're looking for But the funny part of it was
Speaker 4: to me was so I order on Amazon and and
Speaker 4: we're out doing stuff when we come back and I say,
Speaker 4: my prunes are here.
Speaker 2: Package was at the door.
Speaker 4: And my son said, that is officially the oldest thing
Speaker 4: you've ever said, Hey.
Speaker 2: That is That was disappointing.
Speaker 4: I almost had to sit down for a while and think, Wow,
Speaker 4: that's where I am in my life, where I get
Speaker 4: in an excited voice. Yes, I don't say hey, look
Speaker 4: at that girl or maybe a new car or anything.
Speaker 4: I say hooray, my prunes are here. That's wy I
Speaker 4: crossed the line there. I'd say, that's disappointing. I'll let
Speaker 4: you know how it works. Maybe I'll put a graph up.
Speaker 2: Or don't no, no, keep it to yourself.
Speaker 4: I think I'm doing a favor. We got a lot
Speaker 4: of texts about it. It's I'm not the only person
Speaker 4: in the world that's ever encountered this. According to all
Speaker 4: the ads.
Speaker 2: That I see on television. M that's a good point.
Speaker 4: It's an ongoing problem in America. Too much cheese, that's
Speaker 4: what I say. And apparently it ruins women's moods too.
Speaker 2: According to commercial I keep seeing on Fox news that
Speaker 2: if your gut isn't regular, your moods aren't either. I
Speaker 2: don't I've been in the state that you're describing, which
Speaker 2: I wouldn't am. It's far too refined to mention. But
Speaker 2: I don't think it ever fouled my mood. So I
Speaker 2: don't know if he depends how stopped up you are.
Speaker 2: I guess.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you've been following this conversation, kind
Speaker 4: of an online conversation that maybe you're into or not Twitter,
Speaker 4: conversation about where do our rights come from? As one
Speaker 4: prominent US senator democrats that our rights do not come
Speaker 4: from God. They come from the government that started a
Speaker 4: whole thing. You talk about that, among other topics on
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Speaker 5: I think it sends a mess, really a message of strength.
Speaker 2: We're very strong.
Speaker 4: That's Donald Trump explaining why it's Secretary of War in
Speaker 4: is at a Secretary of Defense. Now it's a Department
Speaker 4: of War. And we'll talk a little bit about that later.
Speaker 4: I learned some interesting stuff about why we changed it
Speaker 4: from war to defense that I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I thought I knew everything about it, and I did not,
Speaker 2: So stay tuned, Okay, intriguing. So speaking of defending ourselves
Speaker 2: against well somebody, China, we're looking at you. The whole
Speaker 2: Salt Typhoon hacking attack that you may have heard of,
Speaker 2: it was way bigger and more significant than was he
Speaker 2: even discussed. I think it was last year a little
Speaker 2: before that. Apparently the Chinese may have stolen data from
Speaker 2: almost every single one of US Americans, not to mention
Speaker 2: the other eighty countries. Well we're targeted.
Speaker 4: If you just started with TikTok, that would be what
Speaker 4: seventy percent of the country.
Speaker 2: I don't know a lot of people have TikTok, and that's.
Speaker 4: Yeah, information they steal just by if you download that app.
Speaker 2: Well, right, right, And I know I have saved that article.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who wrote it, but actual oh, I
Speaker 2: think it was Michael Pillsbury who wrote The Hundred Year Marathon,
Speaker 2: which is a great book about China's rise and their intent.
Speaker 2: But the Chinese intelligence services talk glowingly of TikTok and
Speaker 2: what a valuable asset it is. And if that isn't
Speaker 2: enough information for you, I don't know what you need
Speaker 2: to hear, but anyway, So the sweeping cyber attack by
Speaker 2: the group known as Salt Typhoon is China's most ambitious. Yeah,
Speaker 2: targeted more than eighty countries, may have stolen info from
Speaker 2: nearly every American. They see it as evidence that China's
Speaker 2: capabilities rivaled those of the US and its allies. It's
Speaker 2: not clear whether a lot of the stuff was swept
Speaker 2: up kind of accidentally, and whether it's being stored or
Speaker 2: anything like that. You know, I, personally, knowing a little
Speaker 2: bit about China's track record, I suspect that, Yeah, they
Speaker 2: believe that information is power, even if you don't know
Speaker 2: how you might use it someday, you just keep it.
Speaker 2: And then what the fear is that the range of
Speaker 2: the attack blah blah blah. Security officials warned that the
Speaker 2: stolen data could allow Chinese intelligence services to exploit global
Speaker 2: communications networks to track targets, including politicians, spies, and activists.
Speaker 2: They have everybody's digital footprint.
Speaker 4: I wonder if they act, do they actually have the
Speaker 4: ability to like coalesce, keep track of somehow, Like they
Speaker 4: steal all the information from a twenty two year old
Speaker 4: and that person twenty years from now, becomes a US senator.
Speaker 2: Do they have the ability to keep track of that?
Speaker 2: I don't have any on you. I'll bet with Ai
Speaker 2: they do now, maybe because you don't have to have
Speaker 2: some poor analysts like you know, pawing through millions of
Speaker 2: pages of digital blankety blank or doing Google searches. You
Speaker 2: just ask Ai, Hey, Senator Jones, what do we have
Speaker 2: on him? Here's his last known addresses? Blah blah blah.
Speaker 2: And in a similar ish story, you remember when the
Speaker 2: Trump administration's contentious trade talks with China were going to
Speaker 2: begin last summer, staffers on the House committee focused on
Speaker 2: US competition with China began to get weird emails from
Speaker 2: the committee's chairman, John Molinar, who is a Republican congressman
Speaker 2: from Michigan. Several trade groups, law firms, US government agencies
Speaker 2: had all received the emails, appearing to be from Molinar,
Speaker 2: asking for input on the proposed sanctions with which the
Speaker 2: legislatures were planning to target Beijing. Your insights are essential
Speaker 2: blah blah blah. Turned out to be the latest in
Speaker 2: a series of cyber espionage campaigns linked to Beijing. They
Speaker 2: were impersonating the guy trying to pump anybody for information
Speaker 2: who's willing to give it to them, And they tied
Speaker 2: that to when last year I think it was somebody
Speaker 2: used AI to imitate Marco Rubio's voice, right and had
Speaker 2: him leaving voicemails to people, to all sorts of foreign officials.
Speaker 2: That's going to happen a lot.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, I wonder And just like in everybody's lives,
Speaker 4: you're going to get a text that sounds like your
Speaker 4: wife saying something ridiculous.
Speaker 2: I mean, just as just messing with you, isn't it
Speaker 2: because it's so easy. Well yeah, apparently, Well, not only
Speaker 2: do you have Marco Rubio being not you know, I said,
Speaker 2: I almost said convincingly imitated, But it's not. It's his
Speaker 2: actual voice emphasized digitally. It's like, you know, if you're
Speaker 2: a guitar player, you know they have these digital amp
Speaker 2: what do you call them imitations? There's there's a word
Speaker 2: for it. Models that actually take the audio data from
Speaker 2: you know, a Marshall amplifier or whatever, and they can
Speaker 2: replicate it. You know, the sound waves are the same.
Speaker 2: So yeah, it's his voice essentially. But yeah, you already
Speaker 2: have Grandma's getting calls from their grandson saying, hey, I
Speaker 2: got arrest that I need two hundred dollars bail blah
Speaker 2: blah blah, send it right away. So yeah, I wonder
Speaker 2: whether did the Marcos Rubio of the world and the
Speaker 2: foreign ministers of Britain or whatever, did they already have
Speaker 2: protocols in place where if I see a phone call
Speaker 2: coming in it appears to be from you, for instance,
Speaker 2: and you say, hey, I need to talk to you
Speaker 2: about blah blah blah, I've been arrested, and yeah, good luck,
Speaker 2: get it yourself. Click. Uh. Do they have like code
Speaker 2: words and stuff already. I don't know, because I've heard
Speaker 2: that suggested that families have that have a code really yes, wow,
Speaker 2: oh yeah wow, and none of that. Huh.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: You'd have to be a little naive or inexperienced in
Speaker 2: the ways of the world to fall for this stuff. Still,
Speaker 2: But that's that's the thing about scumbags is some of
Speaker 2: them are pretty smart and they're good at their jobs.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, if I got a phone call from my son,
Speaker 4: even if it sounded very convincing, Dad at Sam, I'm
Speaker 4: in Mexico, I'm in jail, I think, no, you no,
Speaker 4: you're not you're at school. There's no way you ended
Speaker 4: up in Mexico.
Speaker 2: Well what about I'm two towns over. I was ditching
Speaker 2: school and one of my buddies was shoplifting and I
Speaker 2: was with them, so I got arrested. I need four
Speaker 2: hundred bucks. Yeah how about click? Uh? Yeah, I hang
Speaker 2: out with better people. Click. I think you would probably
Speaker 2: see where you're supposed to send the money. Right, Well,
Speaker 2: wait a minute, I'm calling the cop shop right, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: but a lot of people don't because they're they're not idiots. No, nine, okay. Anyway,
Speaker 2: So China's got a file on and congratulations. I've said
Speaker 2: for years, I really hope they have a file on me,
Speaker 2: because if you know she's in paying me, were to
Speaker 2: say no, you and your lunkhead partner, No, we don't
Speaker 2: care what you say or do, that's fine, I would
Speaker 2: find that hurtful.
Speaker 4: I used AI in my cyber truck yesterday. I used
Speaker 4: groc in a way that had my children very uncomfortable.
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Speaker 4: I was listening to a podcast over the weekend where
Speaker 4: some journalists were talking about how they use AI in
Speaker 4: their lives and where they think it's going the where
Speaker 4: they think it's going part. Everybody had a different guess,
Speaker 4: and boy, who knows, We don't know, but how they
Speaker 4: were using it now. One Washington Post reporter talk about
Speaker 4: how every article she runs through AI to look for
Speaker 4: any logical inconsistencies or that sort of thing. I thought
Speaker 4: that was really interesting because at some point, I mean,
Speaker 4: that's what being a good writer is, right, is the
Speaker 4: ability to not do that. And now you can use AI.
Speaker 4: So does that eliminate a whole bunch of the talent
Speaker 4: involved in.
Speaker 2: Being a Washington Post level reporter? Well, about three quarters
Speaker 2: of the articles I read from the Washington Post have
Speaker 2: giant logical inconsistencies in them. Well, this is one of
Speaker 2: the good reporters, but good in my opinion.
Speaker 4: I thought that was interesting in a more frivolous way
Speaker 4: for using AI. And I would assume soon every car
Speaker 4: is going to have AI in it. So Tesla's have
Speaker 4: groc in it now, because that's Elon's AI that he's
Speaker 4: put billions of dollars into, and it's right there in
Speaker 4: your car, and I can just tap the screen and
Speaker 4: like yesterday, we're listening to a jazz song on the
Speaker 4: way to eat breakfast, and I just tapped Groc. I said, hey,
Speaker 4: who's playing trumpet on this song? And the AI chick said, oh,
Speaker 4: that's Wayne Shorter. Isn't it amazing? He really kills it
Speaker 4: on here, she says to me, and again, cool and disturbing.
Speaker 4: Cool and disturbing. And my kids are like, I hate that.
Speaker 4: They hated the voice and the way it sounded so
Speaker 4: like conversational. It is kind of weird.
Speaker 2: You're a silicon chip. Why do you have an opinion
Speaker 2: on jazz?
Speaker 4: And I said, hey, Groc, I'm taking my two boys
Speaker 4: to I Hop for pancakes. Is that a good idea nutritionally?
Speaker 4: Oh boy, that's a tough one. She says. Pancakes are
Speaker 4: loaded with carbs. If you go with the whole grain,
Speaker 4: it'd be a lot better. And don't use the syrup.
Speaker 4: But you know they are, she says, but they are delicious.
Speaker 4: And leave out the butter too. Boys, here's some nice, dry,
Speaker 4: whole week pant And my high schooler in the back
Speaker 4: seat says, stop doing that. I hate this thing. And
Speaker 4: I said, hey, Groc. My high schooler only answers in
Speaker 4: one word questions.
Speaker 2: Is there anything I can do about that?
Speaker 4: And she said, oh, high schooler can be so surly.
Speaker 4: Sometimes it's just hormones and sometimes Dad stop.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's very funny. That is hilarious. It is
Speaker 2: weird how she talks to you, though, Yeah, and I
Speaker 2: wonder how other people react.
Speaker 4: My natural reaction and then watching my kids their natural
Speaker 4: reaction to that conversational.
Speaker 2: Weird buddy's style is like revulsion.
Speaker 4: I mean, right, it's a terry uncanny Valley syndrome, which
Speaker 4: is what that's things that are nearly human disturb us.
Speaker 4: It must not disturb everybody. As I've heard stories of
Speaker 4: people getting into relationships or whatever with their aim. I'm
Speaker 4: immediately turned off by the fact that it's trying to
Speaker 4: sound like a person. It gives me the willies, like
Speaker 4: practically chills. Well, right, but you proved my point, your
Speaker 4: point right there. You hear these stories about people who
Speaker 4: get into relationships with a or the AI helps them
Speaker 4: kill themselves or whatever. Yes, they don't sense the weirdness
Speaker 4: in the threat there.
Speaker 2: So they end up being swept away by it.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, it's funny, how odd how repulsed my kids
Speaker 4: were to her, her tone of voice, in the way
Speaker 4: she talked.
Speaker 2: Just Dad, you gotta stop it's killing me. That's it's interesting. Good.
Speaker 4: I hope that we all react that way. Of course,
Speaker 4: it's probably going to get better at it.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: The questions are going to get more personal too, from
Speaker 5: AI them asking us yes, yeah, well I don't I
Speaker 5: haven't gone down that road with anything with AI so well,
Speaker 5: other than hacking again, you're a bag of silicon chips.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you anything you want to know. I don't care.
Speaker 2: You're not a person. It's weird. Although the privacy thing is,
Speaker 2: you know, significant.
Speaker 4: Wouldn't you assume that soon every car will have this
Speaker 4: in it within five years?
Speaker 2: I don't see why not.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean it's pretty handy for the like the
Speaker 4: song thing was cool, or uh, we want to go
Speaker 4: to IHA? Is there one around here? Oh yeah, just
Speaker 4: go up two blocks and turn left. You know that
Speaker 4: sort of stuff is pretty handy. Yeah, No, asking how
Speaker 4: to raise teenagers, I don't know. Maybe that crosses a line.
Speaker 2: You like, I hop more than anybody I've ever known.
Speaker 4: They make great pancakes. They're good at pancakes. Their other
Speaker 4: stuff is marginal, But if you want a pancake, they're
Speaker 4: pretty good at it. Oh yeah, you know, what the
Speaker 4: main thing is though, and this probably makes your point
Speaker 4: not mine the diversity.
Speaker 1: Because it's international, right, There's not a line every other
Speaker 1: breakfast place we want to go to, especially on a Sunday,
Speaker 1: it's going to be an hour wait, and we ain't
Speaker 1: waiting an hour.
Speaker 2: To eat our breakfast. I go to, I hop, we
Speaker 2: walk in, we leave, so nobody wants to eat, so
Speaker 2: you can just sit right down. That's that's a good recommendation,
Speaker 2: No kidding.
Speaker 4: Uh, where do we get our rights from God or
Speaker 4: from the government. We do have to get into that
Speaker 4: conversation at some point.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Tim Kaine ought to be heaved out of the Senate,
Speaker 2: like the popular Consent, among other things. On the way
Speaker 2: stay here.
Speaker 4: So Donald Trump, as we broadcast, is speaking at the
Speaker 4: Museum of the Bible there in Washington, d C. Which
Speaker 4: I stayed in the hotel right next to it when
Speaker 4: I was there last year. But for whatever reason we
Speaker 4: were there. What holiday was I there over there?
Speaker 2: Anyway? It was closed.
Speaker 4: I wanted to go because I'm a Bible fan, and
Speaker 4: I thought it was That's exactly right. I thought it'd
Speaker 4: be pretty cool.
Speaker 2: Anyway.
Speaker 4: Donald Trump was just talking about how he's end wokesm
Speaker 4: in their war on religion and the Bible and.
Speaker 2: That sort of stuff.
Speaker 4: Apparently I hasn't reached an idiot idiot Tim Kain, who's
Speaker 4: a Democratic senator from Virginia.
Speaker 2: He was Hillary's running mate, that is correct.
Speaker 4: He was eighty thousand votes away from being vice president
Speaker 4: of the United States, and he said this the other day.
Speaker 6: That rights don't come from laws and don't come from
Speaker 6: the government, but come from the creator. That's what the
Speaker 6: Iranian government believes. It's a theocratic regime that bases its
Speaker 6: rule on Shia law and target soonies behinds, Jews, Christians,
Speaker 6: and other religious minorities. And they do it because they
Speaker 6: believe that they understand what natural rights are from their creator.
Speaker 6: So the statement that our rights do not come from
Speaker 6: our laws or our governments is extremely troubling.
Speaker 4: Wow wow, I had read it, but for some reason,
Speaker 4: hearing it is even worse. So it was in a
Speaker 4: reaction to a conversation about where our rights come from.
Speaker 1: And our.
Speaker 4: Former politician from the very state he represents, named Thomas Jefferson,
Speaker 4: among others, specifically say in our founding documents that our
Speaker 4: rights come from our creator. But he said that that
Speaker 4: was and over again. Yes, and he repeated it. By
Speaker 4: the way, it was for a hearing for.
Speaker 2: An appointee who had said, well, I believe, you know,
Speaker 2: our natural rights come from God blah blah blah, and
Speaker 2: so Tim was trying to tear her down. Apparently more
Speaker 2: on that process and how screwed up it is. But yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: you know, I was gonna say, hey, Tim, Tim, I'm
Speaker 2: going to play a guessing game with you. I'm thinking
Speaker 2: about a Virginian. He's been dead a long time. Tall,
Speaker 2: kind of sandy haired, liked architecture, drank a little wine,
Speaker 2: wrote pretty well, does it ring any bells? Because he
Speaker 2: said over and over again in the very documents that
Speaker 2: explained why this country was going to exist, that our
Speaker 2: rights come from God and cannot be taken away by
Speaker 2: any human. Well, it's it's funny, he said.
Speaker 4: It was disturbing the idea that our rights come from
Speaker 4: God or nature or whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 4: I find it beyond disturbing that we have a US
Speaker 4: senator that was willing to say.
Speaker 2: Out loud, all of our rights come from government.
Speaker 4: They all belong to government, and if they give us
Speaker 4: anything that we have a right to, they gave it
Speaker 4: to us and they can take it back, which is
Speaker 4: absolutely horrifying.
Speaker 2: Well, that's the definition of a gaff that they use
Speaker 2: these days, right, he accidentally said what he actually believes.
Speaker 2: That's what a lot of lefty people believe. That our
Speaker 2: rights come from government, and the government can give them
Speaker 2: or take them away as they place. There are no
Speaker 2: sacred rights, there are no permanent rights. There's just what
Speaker 2: the government gives us. You said it out loud. He
Speaker 2: mocked the idea that we're in doubt by our creator
Speaker 2: with certain uninalienable rights, and that is not only true
Speaker 2: but self evident. He mocked that that.
Speaker 4: Is wild, I'd say, did he think there'd be no
Speaker 4: pushback on that saying the opposite of what our founding
Speaker 4: documents say.
Speaker 2: I'm sure he's heard it now. Probably worth pointing out
Speaker 2: that Jefferson's nemesis, Alexander Hamilton, believe that these sacred rights
Speaker 2: of mankind are written as with a sunbeam in the
Speaker 2: whole volume, and human nature by the hand of the
Speaker 2: Divinity itself, and can never be erased or obscured by
Speaker 2: mortal power. He was joined by John Adams, James Wilson,
Speaker 2: John Dickinson, and all the rest of the Founding Fathers
Speaker 2: and saying exactly the same thing.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the government didn't give us the right to free speech.
Speaker 4: We are born all men of everyone on earth with
Speaker 4: the right free speech. The only way you don't have
Speaker 4: it is if a government takes it away from you.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of governments around the world have Yeah.
Speaker 2: Frederick Douglass and Abraham Lincoln also believed that the right
Speaker 2: to enjoy liberty is inalienable. To invade it is to
Speaker 2: usurp the prerogative of Jehovah. And for instance, again, a
Speaker 2: guy who was just a couple of tens of thousands
Speaker 2: of votes away from being Vice President of the United States,
Speaker 2: finds it disturbing that someone would think that what you
Speaker 2: just said all those people agree with. Yeah, that's wild. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Is he an ignoramus and just doesn't know this, or
Speaker 2: is he again just saying what he believes out loud. Finally,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's probably. I don't know.
Speaker 4: If he were a Republican who had said something like
Speaker 4: that the other direction, he would be questioned on it
Speaker 4: by the press. But since he's a Democrat, he will
Speaker 4: not be.
Speaker 2: Sandy Armstrong and Getty