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Speaker 1: want to start? We want to start down in PSL.

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Speaker 1: Got some exciting young players down there, especially on the

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's start with the young guys and work up

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Speaker 1: I found the tweet where I thought Jeremy Rodriguez was promoted.

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Speaker 2: as Philly singles should be.

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Speaker 1: Blue claus, I think. I don't know if they're higher

436
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Speaker 1: or whatever. I don't know, but yeah, so there were.

437
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Speaker 2: There was back to back starts towards the end of

438
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Speaker 2: April where he allowed two home runs in each start.

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Speaker 2: One of them he didn't even get out of the

440
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Speaker 2: second inning. So some of the watch with Santucci, it's

441
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Speaker 2: his home run problem becomes a thing. But that was

442
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Speaker 2: after he had two really good starts to begin this season.

443
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Speaker 2: There so it's just small sample things like ERA stuff

444
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Speaker 2: like that, not a very big deal. But there are

445
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Speaker 2: another couple of recent draftees down in Brooklyn who are

446
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Speaker 2: pitching very very well right now.

447
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Speaker 1: The first of which is r J.

448
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Speaker 2: Gordon drafted two years ago, has a two point one

449
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Speaker 2: four ERA and twenty eight percent strike out rate with

450
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Speaker 2: a nice slyther. And then Noah Hall, a game cock Gocox.

451
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Speaker 2: I think he was last year's draft tea. I might

452
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Speaker 2: have those guys draft years mixed up, but one point

453
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Speaker 2: eight eight r right, thirty percent strikeout right Noah Hall.

454
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Speaker 2: The big Q right him for now is to work

455
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Speaker 2: on get finding a consistent slider because he has a

456
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Speaker 2: very very good change up, but being a change up

457
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Speaker 2: first right handed pitcher who doesn't have like peak peak

458
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Speaker 2: peak velocity, it's hard to it's hard to hit that

459
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Speaker 2: next level like that. But there's going to be some

460
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Speaker 2: guys we're gonna talk about next couple levels that the

461
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Speaker 2: Mets have taught some new pitches too that have drastically

462
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Speaker 2: improved their ceilings.

463
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Speaker 1: But just putting putting the ticklers out there. For both

464
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Speaker 1: r J.

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Speaker 2: Gordon and Noah Hall as guys that I got guys

466
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Speaker 2: to watch, guys to put in the Tickler file.

467
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and of course Joel Dias m'd be back a

468
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Speaker 1: little bit streked out thirty two percent of the batters

469
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Speaker 1: kind of not walking anybody either, Like it's it feels very,

470
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Speaker 1: very weird because we've been doing these prospect reports now

471
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Speaker 1: since twenty twenty one when we started the podcast, and

472
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Speaker 1: we used to have to grasp at straws. Now it's like, whoa,

473
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Speaker 1: there's too many players. How do we fit in all

474
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Speaker 1: this info into one episode that's not two hours long?

475
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Speaker 2: And that's kind of my favorite part about Joel Diaz

476
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Speaker 2: that he was like the first real guy that we

477
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Speaker 2: pinged on the He's like, oh, here's someone to watch

478
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Speaker 2: him and Buno yeah yeah, right, And it's funny where

479
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Speaker 2: these guys are right now. For Joel d is still

480
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Speaker 2: down to hy A but double some mor injury is

481
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Speaker 2: very long cover from Tommy John surgery, but like a

482
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Speaker 2: thirty two percent strike right, no walks in. Hya still

483
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Speaker 2: is a pretty young pitcher, Like that's someone that should

484
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Speaker 2: be watched. And I missed I forgot one guy because

485
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Speaker 2: I thought he was in Brooklyn but actually is still

486
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Speaker 2: in PSL Dome working on a ending scoreless streak, my

487
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Speaker 2: boy from the draft last year, striking out tons of

488
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Speaker 2: guys down there. Just kind of the Mets have this

489
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Speaker 2: thing going on right now where they might be like

490
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Speaker 2: too packed full with pitchers in these minor league systems

491
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Speaker 2: because they just can't really find spots in the going

492
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Speaker 2: up and up and up in the levels where Dome

493
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Speaker 2: was drafted last season and guys like Gordon Hall were

494
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Speaker 2: drafted two seasons ago. But the Binghupton rotation is so

495
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Speaker 2: good that they're having trouble seeking into that Binghupton rotation.

496
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Speaker 1: It's just it's funny that it's almost.

497
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Speaker 2: Like traffic right now and the Mets minor league rotations

498
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Speaker 2: because of how many good pitches.

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Speaker 1: There are, sounds like really good problem to have for

500
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Speaker 1: a team that could use a big picture at the

501
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Speaker 1: trade deadline. Feels like it feels like this is a

502
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Speaker 1: matchmate and Neppan right.

503
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Speaker 2: Now, like, oh no, I can't believe we have too

504
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Speaker 2: much starting pitching depth in the minor leagues.

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Speaker 1: I can't.

506
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Speaker 2: I An'll know if the Marlins or the Twins want

507
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Speaker 2: to take any other from us, I will know if

508
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Speaker 2: they could possibly help us out with that.

509
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Speaker 1: Yes, Pablo lope is interested in playing in Queens. We've

510
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Speaker 1: got a bunch of prospects I'd love to give to

511
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Speaker 1: Minnesota for him. You paying attention to Pabulo Lopez this year.

512
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Speaker 2: He looks so good, of course, because he's always so rageous.

513
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Speaker 2: He's like a blatant top fifteen pitcher in the league.

514
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Speaker 2: Again because another guy forgot to mention also down there

515
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Speaker 2: port say, Lucy will Watson, he was the Boys a

516
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Speaker 2: shout out. He could be this year's I think so.

517
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Speaker 2: I think if that guy Isaac called him this year

518
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Speaker 2: is Jonah Tong, which is crazy.

519
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Speaker 1: I think this did. Yeah he did.

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Speaker 5: But he's still striking out the world with a fastball

521
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Speaker 5: with incredible movement traits right now in the low nineties,

522
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Speaker 5: but an amazing approach, angle, amazing life on it, like

523
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Speaker 5: it's it's a full repertoire off that with a hard slider,

524
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Speaker 5: a color, a two seamer, like there are so many guys,

525
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Speaker 5: like the volume of dudes that the Mets minor leagues

526
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Speaker 5: have right now is truthfully, it's not.

527
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Speaker 2: It's not comparable to any time ever in our lives.

528
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Speaker 2: Like people are making jokes about Generation K with a

529
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Speaker 2: bunch of these guys in Triple AIT together now where

530
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Speaker 2: it's like it's not even the same galaxy because there's

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Speaker 2: twenty five other ones between every single other level that

532
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Speaker 2: we have. It's it's stupid right now, how many recent

533
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Speaker 2: draftees we're converting to guys who have good minor league stuff,

534
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Speaker 2: skills and stats.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean this Brooklyn team especially is just

536
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Speaker 1: a fucking you. They're they're a album right now in

537
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Speaker 1: the Sally League, like he the Brooklyn is seventeen to nine,

538
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Speaker 1: Port Saint Lucy's fifteen to twelve, Binghamton's fifteen to eleven.

539
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Speaker 1: Go back two years. These the Mets minor league teams

540
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Speaker 1: couldn't win double digit games. It felt like early in

541
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Speaker 1: the year like they were so bad.

542
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Speaker 2: They were getting smoked in these leagues. I think Brooklyn

543
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Speaker 2: may have had like eight straight losing seasons or something

544
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Speaker 2: crazy like that, maybe with one good one mixed in between.

545
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Speaker 2: But it's not it's that the Yeah, we will do

546
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Speaker 2: have to get out there. The depth of the system

547
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Speaker 2: is night and day compared to go Thursday. Maybe maybe

548
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Speaker 2: maybe there's checks the schedule. Check the schedule, yea, check

549
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Speaker 2: the schedule. We'll see what that's all about. I will

550
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Speaker 2: say one more thing about the hitters, Eli Serrano. We

551
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Speaker 2: weirdly got some ex i velos from Brooklyn over.

552
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Speaker 1: Cycles just tweeted them out to tweet out a couple. Hey,

553
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Speaker 1: the interurn that's making these tweets, can you give us

554
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Speaker 1: this info and not tell anybody?

555
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Speaker 4: Uh?

556
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Speaker 2: Eli Serrano won ten. That's fantastic him having a one ten.

557
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Speaker 2: It was to hear this from the Brooklyn Cyclist. Here's

558
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Speaker 2: a look at last week's National Grid New York power report.

559
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Speaker 2: Eli Surano responsible for three of the cycling's five hardest

560
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Speaker 2: hit balls. So this is just in a week fore

561
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Speaker 2: lights Surrando there was one ten, a one OW eight,

562
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Speaker 2: a one oweight, while Ronald Harnandz also had the one

563
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Speaker 2: oweight and Jacob Brimer had the one oh nine.

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Speaker 1: Fantastic stuff. Amazing to see from the young players out

565
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Speaker 1: in Brooklyn. All right, let's jump up to double A now, James,

566
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Speaker 1: get us started. Who do you want to talk about? First?

567
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's almost like boring and to old hat

568
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Speaker 2: at this point, but Jonah Tongue is obscene. I love

569
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Speaker 2: this guy. He's so good. And again I love Jonan

570
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Speaker 2: tong think he's having a great career for a long time.

571
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Speaker 2: If he wants to help us get Papolopez the trade deadline,

572
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Speaker 2: I hi, I'll be forever grateful for Jonah Tongu.

573
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Speaker 1: But he just had an obscene week.

574
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Speaker 2: He's struck out nineteen guys in nate innings. He only

575
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Speaker 2: allowed onon eur and run. He hit ninety eight in

576
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Speaker 2: the railar gun like he's starting to get to true

577
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Speaker 2: like top ten, top fifteen pitcher, prospect pitcher and baseball

578
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Speaker 2: treatment from people like in the in the prospect world,

579
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Speaker 2: in the baseball sphere, we're gonna have the mid season

580
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Speaker 2: top prospect updates come out. You're gonna see someone aggressively

581
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Speaker 2: rank him as like a top thirty five prospect in

582
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Speaker 2: all baseball. And I don't even I think he's going

583
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Speaker 2: to be baseball perspectives, I imagine because I know that

584
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Speaker 2: they're so much higher and guys with crazy pitch traits.

585
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Speaker 1: I just know that Tongue has crazy pitch trades.

586
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Speaker 2: I'm almost like at the point where is he actually

587
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Speaker 2: close to triple A because I'm salivating the idea that

588
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Speaker 2: we can get statcast data on Jonah the day that

589
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Speaker 2: happens in a freak.

590
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Speaker 1: If he was in another organization like the Mariners, he

591
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Speaker 1: would be weeks away from getting a call up, possibly

592
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Speaker 1: if someone was getting hurt, because we know that they'd

593
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Speaker 1: love to jack their guys from Double A right to

594
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Speaker 1: the major league level, skip triple A, especially because the

595
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Speaker 1: pcl out there. The way he's dominating Double A, it's

596
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Speaker 1: almost at a point where it's like, I don't know

597
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Speaker 1: how much left he has to show there. Let's get

598
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Speaker 1: him in Triple A, the different baseballs to see how

599
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Speaker 1: he adjusts that different baseball. Even if he spends the

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Speaker 1: entire rest of the season in Triple A and struggles

601
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Speaker 1: whatever it is that's got to be so incredibly valuable

602
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Speaker 1: to him, rather than just dominating guys at Double A

603
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Speaker 1: where he's so much clearly better than them and is

604
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Speaker 1: still a big walk problem for Tongue. I think he's

605
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Speaker 1: still struggling to grasp just the way his breaking balls move,

606
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Speaker 1: and sometimes his fastball has so much life and his

607
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Speaker 1: elevates too high added the strike zone, which is an

608
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Speaker 1: amazing problem to have.

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Speaker 2: But I also think that that Mariners thing is probably

610
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Speaker 2: going to change now because the way the baseball stuff

611
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Speaker 2: is changing with the minor league levels. I think the

612
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Speaker 2: different ball for double A and triple A is only

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Speaker 2: the last two year thing.

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Speaker 3: I know.

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Speaker 2: Last PA just PUTU a YouTube video on that I

616
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Speaker 2: gotta watch. That's I'm a que for today. But I

617
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Speaker 2: think that with that ball changing, it becomes much more important,

618
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Speaker 2: despite the fact that again the West Coast team is

619
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Speaker 2: maybe not because the ps T PCLS is so ridiculous

620
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Speaker 2: Pacific Coast League, where I think CORS would have like

621
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Speaker 2: the seventh or eighth highest elevation for any field in

622
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Speaker 2: that league. That's how ridiculous is Last year in that league,

623
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Speaker 2: the new ballpark and Sacramento I believe was the most

624
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Speaker 2: picture friendly at the second most pitcher friendly in that

625
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Speaker 2: entire league. That's how I've seen that league is where

626
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Speaker 2: that ballpark already is like a top third hitters parking

627
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Speaker 2: baseball in that league. It was the it was the

628
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Speaker 2: pitchers haven, which is kind of funny to think about.

629
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Speaker 1: But again a guy like Tong.

630
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Speaker 2: Who's just maybe the Q is just like you have

631
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Speaker 2: to throw more strikes, Like you can't continue to have

632
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Speaker 2: these strike out rates over ten percent right now it's

633
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Speaker 2: basically fifteen percent double A.

634
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Speaker 1: But also like maybe not I don't know, like a J.

635
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Speaker 2: Smith Shaffer's always been like a ten to twelve fourteen

636
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Speaker 2: percent walk right guy through the minor league. He's pitching

637
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Speaker 2: in the majors the same age Joan Tongue is right now.

638
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Speaker 2: So like maybe it just becomes like an organizational mindset

639
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Speaker 2: at that point of what you want to do, how

640
00:24:55,000 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 2: much you need to see from these guys before they're

641
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Speaker 2: in the majors. But in terms of raw stuff, strike

642
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:03,720
Speaker 2: totals and this kind of other worldly potential pitchers and

643
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Speaker 2: any minor league team, any minor league level right now,

644
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Speaker 2: it's Jonah togg is on that elite tier, which is.

645
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Speaker 1: Amazing to say. Got another picture down there, getting some

646
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Speaker 1: national buzz too right now, and he's been on this

647
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Speaker 1: podcast Ryan Lambert, our dog American Psycho. He's getting national buzz.

648
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 1: I mean, Lance has been tweet out about him. He's

649
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Speaker 1: got one of the best fastballs in baseball right now

650
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Speaker 1: in the minor leagues, all levels, all levels, one of

651
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Speaker 1: the best fastballs. We know he drinks eggs, we know

652
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Speaker 1: he's he's nuts. He's throwing one hundred and two miles

653
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: an hour. I mean he's dominating again double a absolutely

654
00:25:35,480 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: dominating to the point where like it feels like the

655
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 1: call up could be real by September.

656
00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: Maybe literally, yes, we have to actually we're worried about

657
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Speaker 2: that X we use for para stomach to drink the

658
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,199
Speaker 2: ry egg problem. And then we should also reach out

659
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 2: to him, have him back on the podcast to be like, hey, dude,

660
00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 2: you're fucking sick, like this has been an amazing year since

661
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:54,199
Speaker 2: he was the pitching lab. Doney tell us about this.

662
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:56,040
Speaker 2: But even just through a couple of innings right now

663
00:25:56,040 --> 00:25:58,840
Speaker 2: at double A, it's I mean, ex sho so so

664
00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:01,639
Speaker 2: at three innings right now double but he's striking out everybody.

665
00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,720
Speaker 2: And he was striking as sixty one percent of bat

666
00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,800
Speaker 2: as he faced in Brooklyn this season in eight innas

667
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:07,960
Speaker 2: pitch sixty one percent.

668
00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: And the day that we have.

669
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 2: From Lance is that he has the third highest swing

670
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 2: strike rate on a foresteing fastball of any pitcher in

671
00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:16,920
Speaker 2: all the minor leagues, any single level, across everything with

672
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,120
Speaker 2: the minium of one hundred fast balls thrown, that's over

673
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,159
Speaker 2: twenty five percent.

674
00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: And the big difference between swing strike rate and.

675
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:24,480
Speaker 2: Whiff rate, where if you're talking about wiffrate, you're only

676
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 2: talking about the pitches that hitters have swung and missedat,

677
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 2: but they actually have to swing at swing strike rates

678
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:30,920
Speaker 2: percentage of all the pitches he threw. So when Ryan

679
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 2: Lambert throws a fastball twenty five percent of a time,

680
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 2: one out of four hitters swing through that pitch. And

681
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,720
Speaker 2: that's a pitch that's sitting one hundred miles an hour,

682
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: has over twenty inches of been duced verdical break like

683
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 2: it is. It's it's an obscene pitch and one that

684
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:46,160
Speaker 2: right now, if he gets to the major leagues, I'm

685
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,719
Speaker 2: basically certain he'll be able to miss bats with it.

686
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, especially with all the injuries that must have been

687
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,600
Speaker 1: just kind of piling up in the fact that Dadniel

688
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,920
Speaker 1: looked really, really bad in his one appearance against Arizonta.

689
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:58,640
Speaker 1: So far, Met's can always use some more relief arms.

690
00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 1: If Ryan Lambert keeps going, why not?

691
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,679
Speaker 2: And also they were like you made seven appearances in

692
00:27:02,680 --> 00:27:05,440
Speaker 2: Brooklyn double A, get like you ready to go? Also

693
00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 2: like he played pretty high level college baseball, like and

694
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 2: you if you have stuff like how much you really

695
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 2: have to prove? Like all of these teams have like

696
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 2: their own version of what the stuff plus is They

697
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 2: understand what these pitch shapes are. And once you see

698
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:17,800
Speaker 2: a guy as the shape, like they'd know one, this

699
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 2: level is going to be remotely a challenge for you.

700
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 1: It's like keep going up. Yeah, we've got another call

701
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:24,919
Speaker 1: up just recently from Brooklyn. He won while Rhymer won

702
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 1: the U South Atlantic League Player of the Month for hitting.

703
00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:32,479
Speaker 1: The picture also came from Brooklyn. Zach Thornton yea Grand

704
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:35,280
Speaker 1: Canyon University. Low key building a little powerhouse in sports

705
00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 1: out there, but keep an eye out for this h

706
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:40,000
Speaker 1: lankey lefty and he's just he was dominant down in Brooklyn.

707
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:42,280
Speaker 2: I he was someone who came y right there in

708
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 2: the last few weeks. Another guy who weirdly got picked

709
00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:45,800
Speaker 2: up one of my deep diasted LEAGUESE. I was like whoa,

710
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:47,239
Speaker 2: And it was by My husband was a Mets fan,

711
00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 2: so I was like double woe. But I was expecting

712
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 2: to see like a lanky lefty who was throwing some

713
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 2: sinkers and some some sweepy sweepers and like seeing what

714
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:54,919
Speaker 2: he was doing over.

715
00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,440
Speaker 1: There, dude throw his gas hard.

716
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,360
Speaker 2: He sees like he has like one of those three

717
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,000
Speaker 2: record of their armslots, but he's got like the whip.

718
00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: He's the whip Nis.

719
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 2: So it just comes right, it comes right through and

720
00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:04,800
Speaker 2: comes and attacks the hitters. And we do know that

721
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: lefties were Brooklyn. It's it's not the it's not the

722
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: most difficult place. So it's not mean it's not the

723
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: easiest play to succeed because it's very lefty susceptible. Lefty

724
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 2: hitters will perform worst there. So if a lefties more

725
00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: septiles right handed hitter, it's easier for.

726
00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:15,600
Speaker 4: Them to hit.

727
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,640
Speaker 1: Probably something's happening in Johan Santucci right now.

728
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 2: But having an oh four to four ERA twenty five

729
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:22,880
Speaker 2: strikeouts and two walks and twenty innings, a whip under

730
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,000
Speaker 2: point seven, it's another thing where it's like the Mets,

731
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:26,959
Speaker 2: You're like, yep, he's ready to go.

732
00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:27,800
Speaker 1: Put them up right there.

733
00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:29,520
Speaker 2: And someone who was not allowed the buzz out of

734
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:31,080
Speaker 2: the draft two years ago at fifth round pick out

735
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 2: the Grand Canyon, someone that as deep as we get

736
00:28:33,440 --> 00:28:36,440
Speaker 2: these prospect reports had never discussed before, never even came

737
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: into our radar. And it's just they happened so fast

738
00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 2: with these guys in that system right now where it's

739
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,880
Speaker 2: like damn, there's another new one, then another new one

740
00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:45,560
Speaker 2: another new one, like, look what we found. Here's another

741
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 2: stud pitcher.

742
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like Wenninger was a guy that had been like

743
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:50,320
Speaker 1: a name where it's like, look at this guy. And

744
00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 1: he did just come off his first bad start of

745
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,120
Speaker 1: the year where he gave up six certain runs in

746
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: about five innings. But he's still been so great this season.

747
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 2: Oh and the one before that he struck out ten

748
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 2: guys in five innings, didn't allow on and run.

749
00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: And he's another guy.

750
00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:04,640
Speaker 2: There's true national buzz, like he's Baseball America's been shouting

751
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:06,560
Speaker 2: out Jack Wenger because we talked about him a lot

752
00:29:06,640 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 2: last year, coming from University of Illinois, bid round draft pick.

753
00:29:09,840 --> 00:29:11,680
Speaker 2: It was just even it was a change up guy

754
00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 2: from a high arm slot that didn't really have an

755
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 2: exciting fastball with coming from the high arms, so I

756
00:29:15,760 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: didn't really have an exciting shape, kind of came on

757
00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 2: downhill playing to the guys.

758
00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 1: The change up was right handed pitcher. We just talked

759
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:20,800
Speaker 1: about that with Noah Hall.

760
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, you could you might be able to

761
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: work your way into being like a mid end, back

762
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 2: end rotation guy throwing like four miles an hour harder.

763
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:28,840
Speaker 2: This year, he has a new slider that's like perfect

764
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 2: from the art slot to go off that change up

765
00:29:30,520 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 2: and it's just like whoa. You guys hit that so fast,

766
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,000
Speaker 2: like so quick. It was so quick, and you're like damn.

767
00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 2: And like I remember last year at the trade deadline

768
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:38,840
Speaker 2: when the Mets made.

769
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: The Tyler Stewart for Jesse Winker. Yeah, the Jessin Wicker

770
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: Tyler Stewart trade.

771
00:29:41,920 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 2: People didn't really realize how much they should be trusting

772
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,080
Speaker 2: David Searns yet to like, oh, we gave up a

773
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 2: guy who could be a great back end rotation guy.

774
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,959
Speaker 2: Like we just we just made three new Tyler Stewarts

775
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: in a month, Like it doesn't matter, Like we have

776
00:29:52,040 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 2: the deep organization like these guys. And we're talking about

777
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 2: guys like Tom Weingder and Thornton who are again in

778
00:29:58,080 --> 00:29:58,480
Speaker 2: Double A.

779
00:29:58,920 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: This is not that far from the main leagues.

780
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 2: If you're pitching in Double A right now, there's reason

781
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,400
Speaker 2: to believe that you have by the end of the

782
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,920
Speaker 2: twenty twenty sixth season, like you're basically ready to be

783
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,160
Speaker 2: a major league pitcher. Yeah, like you're very close. Like

784
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,480
Speaker 2: these guys are gonna get reps the Arizona Fall League.

785
00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: If you keep on this as like insane rise that

786
00:30:15,480 --> 00:30:17,600
Speaker 1: these guys have had, there's a chance that you make

787
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: an appearance before the start of the twenty twenty six

788
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,880
Speaker 1: season if you're still on this astronomical rise. Obviously, if

789
00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 1: Jonah Toong keeps striking out forty five percent of the

790
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: batters he's facing in Triple A, all of a sudden,

791
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: the Met's like, yeah, I think we have to call

792
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 1: this guy up totally.

793
00:30:29,320 --> 00:30:30,680
Speaker 2: And they have other guys down there who have still

794
00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 2: been pitching well, which don't have the same kind of

795
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 2: stuff in buzz. A guy like Jonathan Pinzaro doesn't allow

796
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 2: when you run it strikes out tons of guys like theys.

797
00:30:36,920 --> 00:30:38,920
Speaker 2: It's embarrassment of riches and like all these guys are

798
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:40,960
Speaker 2: up at the level because we just Noan McLean's been

799
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 2: so good, you gotta push up the Triple A where

800
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 2: it's just like it's going, it's going, it's going. Everything

801
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,240
Speaker 2: with the Mets farm system right now is a snowball

802
00:30:47,280 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 2: effect and it's kind of great. But even talk about

803
00:30:49,760 --> 00:30:51,320
Speaker 2: some of hitters down there, because we do have some

804
00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: exciting guys down there who maybe not I mean, besides,

805
00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: i'mould talk about Jet Williams. Actually, I know he's ripped

806
00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 2: the cover off the ball.

807
00:30:57,720 --> 00:31:00,280
Speaker 1: The Jet Jet's doing like that awesome thing where it's like, oh, okay,

808
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,920
Speaker 1: look he's healthy and Jet Williams is totally back two

809
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,360
Speaker 1: ninety five through sixty one, eight to seventy three ops

810
00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 1: ops plus WRC plus at one fifty one, he's only

811
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:11,960
Speaker 1: played fifteen innings in center field, one game at second base.

812
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,080
Speaker 1: That's the thing that's a little like, ah, Like he's

813
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: definitely playing shortstop. Maybe that's also because they want to

814
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,400
Speaker 1: trade him as a shortstop. That I think a possibility do.

815
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:21,400
Speaker 2: I think it's also the kind of thing where it's

816
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,160
Speaker 2: like you have to be make your teams know, like

817
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 2: he can be a shortstop because the most value is

818
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 2: shortstop shortop if not the fields. Yeah, again, probably that

819
00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 2: probably just depends on who's pitching, but I think objectively

820
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,760
Speaker 2: it's the most por position short yes. And he's just

821
00:31:33,840 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 2: he's just such a good fucking hitter, Like you watch

822
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,280
Speaker 2: him and he just hits the ball hard, hits it

823
00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:40,720
Speaker 2: to all fields, has a good approach to k rates

824
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 2: back down to normal rates right now twenty three percent

825
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 2: k rate while he's walking around ten percent of the time,

826
00:31:45,920 --> 00:31:48,240
Speaker 2: like he is just going to be a very very

827
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: good major League baseball player, whether it's for the Mets

828
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 2: or another organization.

829
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: He is such a fun little.

830
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:55,680
Speaker 2: Player to have and it's nice to see that last year,

831
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: the injury riddled season, he's able to put it behind

832
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 2: him find the power after having that tissue. You no

833
00:32:00,720 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 2: risk injuries canzap power for a little bit of time.

834
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,920
Speaker 2: Being the guy that he seemed like he was intending

835
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: to be two years ago when he had the huge

836
00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,440
Speaker 2: breakout coming through the system. It's just nice that he

837
00:32:09,560 --> 00:32:12,960
Speaker 2: is a high ends prospect, the one that was promised.

838
00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then we got to talk about a good

839
00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 1: paison and nice Italian out in Binghamton. Nick LaRusso middle

840
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 1: named Dante Nicholas Dante LaRusso. I mean that's one of

841
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 1: the most Italian names ever. As a Maryland kid, right yeah,

842
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,680
Speaker 1: Uh Maryland and Villanova. Yeah from Carmel, New York.

843
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 5: Uh.

844
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 1: Just just good hitter, Like I don't know what it's

845
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 1: gonna be because he's a little bit older for the

846
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: level because he was a college kid. He was hitting

847
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: two eighty has an eight twenty three ops. Like, if

848
00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: you just hit you'll find your way to the major

849
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,520
Speaker 1: leagues at some point, and he's been hitting really well.

850
00:32:40,920 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: The other two names to talk about in Binghamton right now,

851
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:46,880
Speaker 1: Ryan Clifford, been hot and cold. I think that's the

852
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: Ryan Clifford experience right now. We're seeing the inconsistencies again

853
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: where he's striking out a ton but walking a ton,

854
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: batting average below two hundred, he has the Devil's ops

855
00:32:56,040 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: at six sixty six. They've tried him in the corner

856
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 1: hile field a little bit, but he's been mostly first base.

857
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:02,680
Speaker 1: I think this is just kind of what you're getting

858
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: with him. It's a little, uh, it's a little Joey

859
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 1: gallowish like where it's gonna be a lot of strikeouts,

860
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:08,840
Speaker 1: hit the ball hard, hopefully he gets hot and.

861
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: So people are gonna freak out. You just said that

862
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 2: about Joey Gallo.

863
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 1: But that's kind of true.

864
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:14,080
Speaker 2: I mean, that's why I was trying to angle before

865
00:33:14,120 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: before I remember that Jet Williams existed.

866
00:33:15,960 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: But it's kind of this.

867
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,800
Speaker 2: It keeps being the same, the same song and dancer

868
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,080
Speaker 2: Ryan Clifford, where it's just this ex uber patience to

869
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,920
Speaker 2: the point where it's like, hey man, good things happen

870
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 2: when you swing, swing, take a shout out and take

871
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,720
Speaker 2: a shot on the ball like you you hell.

872
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,200
Speaker 1: It's got a great got a great left handed cut.

873
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:32,040
Speaker 1: You have the big power.

874
00:33:32,400 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: He definitely has good understanding of the strike zones because

875
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 2: he's able to draw these walks. So and I guess

876
00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,200
Speaker 2: it's just swing and miss thing again that can happen sometimes,

877
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,640
Speaker 2: these bigger players, these longer level, longer levers, longer swings.

878
00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: It's just gotta figure it out. Nick Morribato, he was

879
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 1: a big name that people were loving last year. He's

880
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,440
Speaker 1: basically been a league average hitter at double A. We

881
00:33:51,560 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 1: kind of expected a little bit of a falloff for

882
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 1: more Abido, just because his big thing was athleticism. So

883
00:33:57,960 --> 00:33:59,880
Speaker 1: he's has his ninety five WRC plus and double A

884
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,480
Speaker 1: right now in the season six seventy nine ops not

885
00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:05,680
Speaker 1: particularly great. The concern was always going to be hitting,

886
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: still playing center field. Still great athlete. The one thing

887
00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:09,720
Speaker 1: I will say, though, the sole and bases have slowed

888
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:12,480
Speaker 1: down a ton, only seven stolen bases in twenty four games.

889
00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,240
Speaker 1: That to me is a little bit concerning.

890
00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,560
Speaker 2: It's also a situation for morebi though, where he is

891
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 2: still a bit young for the level. He just turned

892
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 2: twenty two at the birt was like last week or

893
00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:20,879
Speaker 2: two weeks ago.

894
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 1: So he is a college senior right now.

895
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,920
Speaker 2: It's already playing double A baseball to be chat out

896
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 2: a guy like Nick Larrusso he's gonna be turning twenty

897
00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 2: five in a few months. So again that's just like

898
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:31,000
Speaker 2: a difference in agent level. And people say that if

899
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 2: you're trying to equate age level for every year below

900
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 2: the league average age in your league, you are, you

901
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,960
Speaker 2: can kind of give yourself twenty thirty points a WRC plus.

902
00:34:38,400 --> 00:34:40,720
Speaker 1: So get get get can.

903
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: More be a twenty five thirty points WRC plus. Becuse

904
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 2: about year and half younger in the average age of

905
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 2: the level. Now something for the good season. Yeah, also

906
00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:46,920
Speaker 2: very funny.

907
00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: Just got a text from Ryan Lambert's agent and it

908
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:53,239
Speaker 1: was about Lance Brastowski's tweet about how I got one

909
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: of the best fast balls in the country.

910
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:56,279
Speaker 2: Nice, what's ten him background? But they want to have

911
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: on the podcast next few weeks.

912
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'll definitely let him know. Last guy will talk

913
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:04,200
Speaker 1: about offensively Kevin Parada. It's bad he has a three

914
00:35:04,360 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: three eighty ops he's playing and it's just he can't

915
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:09,560
Speaker 1: really do anything right now. So I'm not sure what

916
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: to do with that.

917
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,320
Speaker 2: I feel like Parada he might need like the Colson

918
00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:16,200
Speaker 2: Montgomery reset, but the bit text day where.

919
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,640
Speaker 1: Just like go back down the low way, just yeah,

920
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:20,960
Speaker 1: just go for a week, remember that you can hit baseballs.

921
00:35:21,280 --> 00:35:23,359
Speaker 2: Just go into the sun, like you know, hang out

922
00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 2: for a little while, hit hit the ball some nineteen

923
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:25,520
Speaker 2: year olds.

924
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: Just enjoy yourself for.

925
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:26,799
Speaker 4: A little while.

926
00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:28,440
Speaker 2: The group get back to get back to the love

927
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:28,839
Speaker 2: of the game.

928
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 1: And I only bring that up because that's the name

929
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 1: that a lot of people still talk about as like,

930
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 1: what's going on with Kevin Prada. Yeah, simply an update for.

931
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:39,279
Speaker 2: Him, that's it, because at this point it's very unlikely

932
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 2: that he has a major league caliber ceiling right now,

933
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 2: at this moment, as at this at that at this point,

934
00:35:44,080 --> 00:35:44,919
Speaker 2: exactly right now.

935
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, let's move on up to Triple A.

936
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:50,120
Speaker 1: Not as much here because Triple A is filled with

937
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 1: a bunch of guys who aren't really like prospects that

938
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: there are a lot of thirty year olds in Triple A.

939
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:57,760
Speaker 1: But we've got some fun guys on the pitching side.

940
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:00,319
Speaker 1: Let's just finish off hitting real quick here be done

941
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 1: with it, and then let's dive deep into the pitchers

942
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:04,120
Speaker 1: because it's three guys there. Drew gilberts off to a

943
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: really nice start, especially now Jesse Winker being out. As

944
00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:08,480
Speaker 1: long as we know he's going to be six to

945
00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:11,480
Speaker 1: eight weeks, the Mets don't necessarily need outfield help, but

946
00:36:11,560 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: Drew Gilbert does bring a left handed bat that could

947
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:17,120
Speaker 1: play centerfield because he's playing center field exclusively at Triple A,

948
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:19,719
Speaker 1: which is really good to see. Hitting two seventy three

949
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:21,600
Speaker 1: or a four to fourteen on base four nine suging

950
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:23,960
Speaker 1: eight to twenty three ops in the fourteen games thus far,

951
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:26,839
Speaker 1: one to one K to walk ratio is fantastic. And

952
00:36:27,440 --> 00:36:29,760
Speaker 1: he hit a ball one ten off of Jake Bloss,

953
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,040
Speaker 1: who is a guy that you love. He's gonna be

954
00:36:32,040 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 1: coming up for the Blue Jays in their system. Okay, well,

955
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:40,239
Speaker 1: there you go, fastball. Drew Gilbert hit it one ten

956
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 1: off of him. That is harder than Alex Bregman or

957
00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,040
Speaker 1: PCI have ever hit a ball in their career. There

958
00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:44,319
Speaker 1: you go.

959
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:48,480
Speaker 2: That's also a m there's been that's the only guy.

960
00:36:48,520 --> 00:36:50,720
Speaker 2: There has been some good videos of him, like making

961
00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: dive and catch his center field I think it's meaningful

962
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,919
Speaker 2: for Gilbert that he is specifically playing center field.

963
00:36:56,160 --> 00:36:56,880
Speaker 1: Least centerfield.

964
00:36:57,080 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 2: That is the problem area for this Mets roster. Tiretown

965
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 2: has been blo is hot. We've had a lot of

966
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 2: people ask us to apologize for our tyrone Taylor takes

967
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:06,480
Speaker 2: last week because since we said that he needed since

968
00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:08,319
Speaker 2: we said he was a borderline DFA candidate. He all,

969
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,240
Speaker 2: he's done his extra base hits based in every single

970
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 2: at bat. But I always cause from people to get

971
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 2: excited about just the concept of diving catches and you

972
00:37:15,120 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: see highlights because sometimes an actual really good outfielder because

973
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 2: it just caught the ball in his fet So I

974
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: think that's always a fun thing to try and figure out,

975
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:24,399
Speaker 2: was this a good catcher to make?

976
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:26,960
Speaker 1: Like any diving catches? Like do you remember diving catches

977
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:28,399
Speaker 1: really when he was with the Mets. Not many.

978
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:30,120
Speaker 2: He just clided it once in a while. It's just

979
00:37:30,400 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 2: fast as hell gets there. But now let's get to

980
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,600
Speaker 2: the pictures as a triple A because first one hasn't

981
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 2: thrown a pitcher of triple A yet, but he will soon.

982
00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: I literally cannot wait for the moment it happens. It's

983
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 2: Nolan McLean. Nolan McLean is taking over the baseball world

984
00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:48,840
Speaker 2: right now. Prospects prognosticators from all extens corners of the

985
00:37:48,880 --> 00:37:51,040
Speaker 2: country are talking about Nolan MacLean. How exciting he is.

986
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:53,280
Speaker 2: Is the fact that also he's just on a special

987
00:37:53,280 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: path right now. He's only two years after being drafted.

988
00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:57,759
Speaker 2: He's already in Triple A. Crazier to even think about

989
00:37:57,880 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 2: only one year of him being a full time pitcher,

990
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:01,240
Speaker 2: and he's already gone through the one of the hardest

991
00:38:01,280 --> 00:38:04,240
Speaker 2: levels of the upper miners, Double A, and he's just he's

992
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: he seems to be expanding the repertoire. This is a

993
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 2: good note from friend of the podcast Aaron Layton that

994
00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 2: he still has the amazing sweeper. That's a pitch that

995
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 2: he can use whenever he wants, all the time, but

996
00:38:14,080 --> 00:38:15,680
Speaker 2: also something that he showed off a bit in the

997
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 2: spring breakout game. The guy is so excited two years ago.

998
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 2: I guess two years ago, year and a half now, six, six,

999
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,000
Speaker 2: fourteen months ago. Now is this like tight gyro slide

1000
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,440
Speaker 2: that he's been able to use early in the count,

1001
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,640
Speaker 2: late in the count against right handed batters, mostly against

1002
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: left handed batteries because that big looping sweeper from Nolan McLean.

1003
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:32,640
Speaker 2: While that pitch is amazing, and the fact that it

1004
00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 2: can be in the upper eighties with like twenty inches

1005
00:38:36,040 --> 00:38:37,480
Speaker 2: of movement, something that would be one of the best

1006
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 2: pitches major League Baseball right now. And I stand on

1007
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: that fact. Having the tight gyro slide that he can

1008
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,840
Speaker 2: work low in the zone against the left handed battery,

1009
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: something that's vital for him if he's going to get

1010
00:38:47,560 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 2: up and move these levels. I'm going to talk about

1011
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 2: brands broke in a little bit, and the big issue

1012
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:52,760
Speaker 2: when you keep going up and up in these levels

1013
00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:55,040
Speaker 2: is how often you're being platooned against how often as

1014
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: a riety with a sweeper, which a lot of these

1015
00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:58,719
Speaker 2: rities are now because we're two years off the year

1016
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,319
Speaker 2: the sweeper, so all these guys now I know how

1017
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,879
Speaker 2: to throw sweepers. That's the biggest secondary pitch. You need

1018
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:05,200
Speaker 2: to be able to throw another breaking ball that can

1019
00:39:05,239 --> 00:39:07,399
Speaker 2: be a foil for left handed batters. And he's throwing

1020
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:09,279
Speaker 2: a curve too now, Nolan McLean aarb know that there.

1021
00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: So the fact that he has three distinct breaking balls,

1022
00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:13,239
Speaker 2: two of them are plus against leftis he still throwing

1023
00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 2: mid to upper nineties with the fastball. It's it's becoming

1024
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,200
Speaker 2: the point where he's the potential Nolan McLean.

1025
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: I don't want to.

1026
00:39:20,239 --> 00:39:22,319
Speaker 2: Get super dragged into it because we just did this

1027
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 2: with brand sprot and he started throwing the new baseball

1028
00:39:24,160 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: and he started facing lefties every single at bat and

1029
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 2: things change really quickly. But I'm excited to see what

1030
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 2: he can do against these lefties and triple A.

1031
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:31,399
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1032
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 1: The one difference with McLean and Sprout is that McLean,

1033
00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: like worst case scenario, is going to be a disgustingly

1034
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 1: good reliever like part two I think, yeah, but like yeah,

1035
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,600
Speaker 1: it throws hard, but like McLean has that that pitch

1036
00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 1: where you're like, that's the calling guard, Like that sweeper

1037
00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:48,799
Speaker 1: could just make you a major league reliever right now. Yeah.

1038
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,760
Speaker 2: And the fact that there's there's a clear development of pitches.

1039
00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:55,480
Speaker 2: He keeps learning new pitches because it was sweeper fastball.

1040
00:39:55,520 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 2: He started throwing that gyro s lytherer a couple notes

1041
00:39:57,920 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 2: and now he has the curve ball two when he's

1042
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:01,480
Speaker 2: not scared to even throw that curve balls like a

1043
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 2: back foot pitch to the lefties either, like it's he

1044
00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:07,719
Speaker 2: has it seems like there's a real toolbag coming here,

1045
00:40:07,719 --> 00:40:09,680
Speaker 2: and that's like kind of the shame ball. This is

1046
00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,439
Speaker 2: like that was what made me so excited about sprot

1047
00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 2: initially coming through last year. I saw the way that

1048
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:15,400
Speaker 2: change up worked for him at Florida. I saw the

1049
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,120
Speaker 2: way he developed that sweeper in the lower levels of

1050
00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 2: the miners, that with a fastball, that when he was

1051
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 2: using a different ball, and he said, we're just transitioning,

1052
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 2: talking about brands Brote now using a different ball and

1053
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:26,720
Speaker 2: talking and pitching in back fields, getting up to people reporting,

1054
00:40:26,760 --> 00:40:29,600
Speaker 2: you know, eighteen nineteen twenty inches of inducedhytical breaks. I'm like, okay,

1055
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:31,759
Speaker 2: I know he has the sinker. I know he has

1056
00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:33,840
Speaker 2: the change up. Now he has a real fastball and

1057
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 2: a real sweeper. Boom bang, lefties and right he's done handled.

1058
00:40:36,680 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 2: But as he keeps going up in these levels and

1059
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 2: as he's now used different ball, the changeup is gone.

1060
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,280
Speaker 2: It's out of the repertori, almost completely crazy. He's throwing

1061
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 2: five to six of them as starts. So maybe it's

1062
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 2: just the way that his arm slot change, or is

1063
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: the way his pronation changed when he's throwing more and

1064
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 2: more of those sweepers. Sometimes pitchers have said that the

1065
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,440
Speaker 2: way you throw, certain pitches will affect the way other

1066
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: pitches can work. I know Garret Cole has talked about

1067
00:40:57,200 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 2: this a lot, where he struggled with his color usagets

1068
00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:01,760
Speaker 2: over the last few years, and he's tried to develop

1069
00:41:01,800 --> 00:41:04,440
Speaker 2: that pitch because the way he intended to throw that

1070
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 2: color was affecting his fastball movement. When now his forceingmers

1071
00:41:07,080 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 2: started cutting too much and stopped getting the rising action

1072
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: that's happening this season with Ryan Helsley as well. Ryan

1073
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 2: Helsley picked up a color and all of a sudden,

1074
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,320
Speaker 2: his forcing fastball is cutting all the way to his

1075
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 2: glove side and where it's like, oh, that pitcher is

1076
00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 2: just go up and down. So now it's like, do

1077
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: I get rid of that pitch that's actually helping Do

1078
00:41:21,280 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 2: I find another way to find it in between both

1079
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:25,279
Speaker 2: of those pitches. So I do think that may be

1080
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:27,680
Speaker 2: something that's effected Sproke. But he just had another start

1081
00:41:27,680 --> 00:41:30,120
Speaker 2: against the the wood, away.

1082
00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:32,320
Speaker 1: From the fucking wo socks. The wo socks.

1083
00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:34,800
Speaker 2: He's gonna have nightmares Aby Roman, Anthony barcel Myra and

1084
00:41:34,840 --> 00:41:37,000
Speaker 2: these wusacks because he got murked by them again. Another

1085
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: six runs and only a few winnings that sort, though

1086
00:41:40,120 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 2: it does seem like there was an intent for the like, hey,

1087
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 2: you got to throw the forcing fastball. It was like

1088
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:46,359
Speaker 2: fifty sixty percent foresing fastballs and they sat ninety seven

1089
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:48,759
Speaker 2: miles an hour. But again the shape was bad, the

1090
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 2: command was ah, and they just got hammered. And then

1091
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:53,960
Speaker 2: you look right now, like what we're really because again

1092
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,319
Speaker 2: the era is very high. Well, don't care about mind

1093
00:41:56,400 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: the ra oh, carey about the strikeouts, carey about your stuff.

1094
00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: It's only seventeen percent strike outs, twelve percent walks. He's

1095
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 2: only completed five innings one time. And just it all

1096
00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: comes back to where is that change up? Because the

1097
00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: fastball is enough filosity, we should be able to fake

1098
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 2: it against left handed hitters at any level nine seven

1099
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,600
Speaker 2: miles an hour. But it all has to come with

1100
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 2: that change up and a gyro side that he has

1101
00:42:16,320 --> 00:42:17,520
Speaker 2: showed in the past two and also it is not

1102
00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:19,440
Speaker 2: really showing anymore either, where it's like if those pitches

1103
00:42:19,480 --> 00:42:22,400
Speaker 2: aren't there, then that's how you get this like Brandon

1104
00:42:22,440 --> 00:42:25,400
Speaker 2: fot comp where it's like here's a sinker, here's a sweeper.

1105
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:27,839
Speaker 1: When the left he comes up, I don't know. Yeah,

1106
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,360
Speaker 1: and that's that's that's the scary part with Sprote is

1107
00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: that there's just now where there was so much, so

1108
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,520
Speaker 1: much rise with him so quickly, now that he's hit

1109
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 1: a bit of a snag, it's like, ah, we're we're

1110
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,840
Speaker 1: and we're not seeing the getting through that snag either,

1111
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:43,160
Speaker 1: which is the concerning part for me.

1112
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,440
Speaker 2: You're not seeing the glass being broken in front of him.

1113
00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:47,439
Speaker 2: And that's why again I'm over the moon excited about

1114
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 2: Nolan McLean. I think the sky is the limit for

1115
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,239
Speaker 2: him as well. But learning the lesson, because that's a

1116
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,440
Speaker 2: bunch of what this with this prospect nowis is you

1117
00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:55,360
Speaker 2: have to learn your lessons and apply them in the future.

1118
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: So learning the lesson from spro understanding how much of

1119
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,920
Speaker 2: an adjustment that new ball at triple A can be,

1120
00:43:00,360 --> 00:43:03,320
Speaker 2: how much an adjustment facing these heavy, heavy left handed

1121
00:43:03,320 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 2: lineups can be for these guys who are mostly fastball

1122
00:43:06,080 --> 00:43:08,399
Speaker 2: sweeper kind of guys. Lit Moore pronounced for Sproke because

1123
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:12,320
Speaker 2: he sinker sweeper. McLean is the four seam fastball. I'm excited,

1124
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 2: I'm I'm not anxious, but I'm waiting on Bay of

1125
00:43:15,000 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 2: Breast to make sure that we could get Nolan MacLean,

1126
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:18,839
Speaker 2: because this is the same thing we talked about Spro

1127
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:21,279
Speaker 2: last year where like the helium gets crazy and just

1128
00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:24,359
Speaker 2: were talked about Nolan McLean preseason where if you keep

1129
00:43:24,400 --> 00:43:27,000
Speaker 2: busting through these glass ceilings at like the breakneck pace

1130
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:30,120
Speaker 2: that McLean has that Spro was, then you're a top

1131
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,600
Speaker 2: five pitching prospect in baseball. You're contributing it at pedant

1132
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 2: type stuff. Literally, like that's the hope. That was the

1133
00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,799
Speaker 2: hope for Spro heading into the season, but he hit

1134
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,919
Speaker 2: he had the wall. But now McLean is the guy

1135
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 2: where if he breaks through that wall, like now you're like,

1136
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:45,840
Speaker 2: oh shit, Like Noel McLean is throwing innings independent like

1137
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 2: in Division race.

1138
00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: I guess the Braves in August. It should be absolutely insane.

1139
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:51,760
Speaker 1: Last guy to talk about here, ending on a positive.

1140
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,520
Speaker 1: Where the fuck did Felipe de la Cruz coming from?

1141
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:56,880
Speaker 1: I never know this guy's day neither all of a

1142
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,240
Speaker 1: sudden he's in Triple A and his in his debut

1143
00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:02,680
Speaker 1: strikes out MLB are Minor League Player of the Week, Like,

1144
00:44:03,000 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: where the fuck did this come from?

1145
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,759
Speaker 2: Literally, of all minor league players's minor leagu play the week,

1146
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:10,080
Speaker 2: and he did struck on nine guys in international league

1147
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: debut literally no clue where he came from. I know

1148
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 2: we were talking about another guy last year, Juand de

1149
00:44:13,920 --> 00:44:16,520
Speaker 2: Suarez who who similarly kind of came out of nowhere.

1150
00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 2: He's similarly like he not hit a wall triple. Ay,

1151
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:20,640
Speaker 2: he's been fine there. But de la Cruz as like

1152
00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,759
Speaker 2: a smaller lefty. I also love when these guys are

1153
00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 2: signed out it from international free agency. De la Cruz

1154
00:44:26,239 --> 00:44:28,040
Speaker 2: was signed four years ago, twenty twenty one, as nineteen

1155
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 2: year old. He's only listed six foot one sixty. Yes,

1156
00:44:30,760 --> 00:44:32,680
Speaker 2: he's definitely like a six two one ninety guy if

1157
00:44:32,680 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 2: you watched the videos of him. But I do want

1158
00:44:34,680 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 2: to pump the brakes a little bit and him being

1159
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,720
Speaker 2: like the next great met Starter because it's just only

1160
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 2: similar to everything we're talking about Spurt right now. It's

1161
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: only sinkers and sweepers, only sinkers and sweepers, and it's

1162
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,600
Speaker 2: under six feet of extension. So being a ninety four

1163
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:50,640
Speaker 2: to ninety five guy with under sixties extension, yeah, it's

1164
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:51,920
Speaker 2: kind of like you're throwing the ball right back here.

1165
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:53,359
Speaker 2: Get your ear so that.

1166
00:44:53,560 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 1: I'll explain this to people too. When we give the

1167
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,240
Speaker 1: positives on extension, where like a guy's throw like Ramon

1168
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,399
Speaker 1: Gomez is throwing one oh five with that extension looks

1169
00:45:01,440 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: like one to ten. You're not losing Miles prow and

1170
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 1: a guy like Felipe de la Cruz. Everything's still taken

1171
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:08,719
Speaker 1: from sixty feet, so you're still theoretically closer than you

1172
00:45:08,800 --> 00:45:11,319
Speaker 1: were than where it's being tracked from, but you're not

1173
00:45:11,360 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 1: getting that like extra if you're not getting that sneaky fast.

1174
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,320
Speaker 1: But we're like, how the fuck is ninety two blown

1175
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,879
Speaker 1: by guys like when you watch Bailey Ober pitch, Yeah,

1176
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:19,400
Speaker 1: right exactly.

1177
00:45:19,440 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 2: And the fact that the ball is being released like

1178
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,200
Speaker 2: of an eight inch difference, that's just another again a

1179
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:25,960
Speaker 2: couple of milliseconds for hitter to pick up the pitch

1180
00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:27,880
Speaker 2: and understand what you're throwing what you're throwing it. But

1181
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: Dela Cruz does have a very legitimate slider. It's one

1182
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 2: of those big loopy left handed three cords to release

1183
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:35,920
Speaker 2: slidest that just like goes through the entire strike, So

1184
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 2: owners goes bad. His box, the battest box. So seeing that,

1185
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:41,560
Speaker 2: I think, no matter what, the guy's probably a good reliever.

1186
00:45:41,600 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 2: And then that's desperately need lefty right now.

1187
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 1: They don't. They don't have a lefty reliever anywhere.

1188
00:45:45,320 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 2: So unless his change up gets a lot better really quickly,

1189
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:49,839
Speaker 2: which he's trying to mix it in a little bit,

1190
00:45:50,360 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 2: I see a reliever. But if he keeps striking out

1191
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 2: tons of guys and giving him no runs, a triple

1192
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:58,080
Speaker 2: A will not be able to deny his potential as

1193
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 2: a starther. But also I think we're in a point

1194
00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:01,840
Speaker 2: with the Mets Triple A where like the fact that

1195
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 2: we got real good major league appearances out of Justin

1196
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 2: Hagenman and Brandon Waddell, Like, there's no way that even

1197
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,319
Speaker 2: though a guy like Felipe da la Cruise in Triple A,

1198
00:46:10,320 --> 00:46:12,840
Speaker 2: he's being rushed to the majors even as a reliever,

1199
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,839
Speaker 2: because he's being worked as a starter. Even being a

1200
00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:18,440
Speaker 2: bad starter is more valuable than being a good reliever

1201
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,040
Speaker 2: at the end of the day, Yes, unless you're a

1202
00:46:20,040 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 2: great reliever, like that's where it changes. But then you

1203
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,160
Speaker 2: also still have to be a bad starter, not a

1204
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:26,120
Speaker 2: terrible starter. So I think that's something that I don't think.

1205
00:46:26,160 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 2: I don't see that change happening during the season for

1206
00:46:29,280 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 2: someone like Felipe de la Cruz, who's kind of who's

1207
00:46:31,800 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 2: moving fast right now. And he's been throwing at least

1208
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: three innings every appearance he's had the season, and just

1209
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: completed six in his first start in triple A. So

1210
00:46:38,760 --> 00:46:40,920
Speaker 2: that's something that's just is someone to keep an eye on.

1211
00:46:41,120 --> 00:46:43,640
Speaker 2: But I wouldn't be like this is the next McLean

1212
00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:46,360
Speaker 2: tongue Sproke, Like this is not someone in those categories,

1213
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 2: even like a Lambert, even like a Weninger, Like that's

1214
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: just he's definitely down to a level compared to those guys,

1215
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:54,000
Speaker 2: based on both the level of his stuff and the

1216
00:46:54,040 --> 00:46:56,440
Speaker 2: depth of his repertoire. Just it's really nice to hear

1217
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 2: that we got We go forty five minutes about all

1218
00:46:58,440 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: these guys in the Mets farm system, and all I

1219
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:02,600
Speaker 2: can think about is who are we gonna trade for

1220
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:03,080
Speaker 2: a big PI?

1221
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:04,480
Speaker 1: That's all I could keep thinking.

1222
00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 2: And you know, it's crazy, like we could have gotten

1223
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,080
Speaker 2: another hour because I even off the top of my head,

1224
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:09,360
Speaker 2: is like, tang guys, I'm my guy. I wish I

1225
00:47:09,360 --> 00:47:10,960
Speaker 2: could have found a way to mention them, and we

1226
00:47:11,000 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 2: don't even.

1227
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,759
Speaker 1: Have, Like, like the Complex League just started, the CPX,

1228
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: there's only been like four games there, so we have

1229
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 1: nothing to talk about there yet. DSL hasn't started yet,

1230
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 1: Like oh Man Champ check us in July when we're

1231
00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,000
Speaker 1: talking about Elli and Pani and what other international players

1232
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: are doing in those leagues. Can't wait.

1233
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: Literally, It's just it's we can't stress this enough, the

1234
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,279
Speaker 2: depth of the mess farm system right now. So it's

1235
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,120
Speaker 2: not something that we can compare it to any other

1236
00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,560
Speaker 2: time in our lives, even just being our fourth year

1237
00:47:36,560 --> 00:47:38,960
Speaker 2: doing this podcast, doing these prospect reports for four or

1238
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 2: five years now besides one year in the middle of

1239
00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:44,000
Speaker 2: we didn't do them for some reason. We I've never

1240
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,920
Speaker 2: seen this kind of stuff, this much excitement, Like there

1241
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 2: was time we were trying to like fan excitement, like

1242
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,239
Speaker 2: we were picking out guys like Jose why this might

1243
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: be okay, Like these might be pitching prospects that could

1244
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 2: sneak into the major leagues at some point. Now it's like,

1245
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:58,560
Speaker 2: holy fucking shit, Like we have guys that are ones, twos, threes, fours, fives,

1246
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,120
Speaker 2: up and down every single level. No, we got some ballplayers,

1247
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 2: and that's a tip the cap. Good job by winning,

1248
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:08,320
Speaker 2: winning except syah, you syah, but everybody else that's perfect.

1249
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,720
Speaker 2: That's all We've ever asked for with these guys.

1250
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I actually don't want my Triple A team winning

1251
00:48:13,440 --> 00:48:15,040
Speaker 1: games like that. I don't care. That's where you can

1252
00:48:15,360 --> 00:48:17,120
Speaker 1: store all those other guys with the development happened in

1253
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 1: Double A and Single A.

1254
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 2: That's where you have guys like the oriol So they

1255
00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:20,959
Speaker 2: get to the major league, they don't know how to lose.

1256
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:21,319
Speaker 4: Yeah.

1257
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:24,279
Speaker 1: Problem. Yeah, it's a problem where the Mets keep putting

1258
00:48:24,280 --> 00:48:26,359
Speaker 1: baseball games. But that's it. Guys. Thank you so much

1259
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:28,320
Speaker 1: for watching and listening. Make sure you're subscribed to the

1260
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:30,680
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1261
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,360
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1262
00:48:33,400 --> 00:48:36,440
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1263
00:48:36,520 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: You can follow James on social media at James Shanna

1264
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 1: and I'm draft Neckmark with the CEE. Thank you guys

1265
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: for listening and watching. We'll catch you all on the

1266
00:48:42,680 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: next episode peace Out.

1267
00:48:44,880 --> 00:49:05,600
Speaker 2: It's called Mets b at the s