1 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:25,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's time to hit the beach, the only 2 00:00:25,440 --> 00:00:28,320 Speaker 1: place to read your emails and your tweets. It's Monday, 3 00:00:28,360 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: October seventeenth, and this is another NOD podcast on the 4 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: Athletic Network. I'm jay E Skeith here in the Classic 5 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 1: Factory and alongside me as always, it's. 6 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:37,960 Speaker 2: Tasmellus podcast list. 7 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: There's this is for you. 8 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:41,480 Speaker 1: Next to him, we got the Bearded womb Atasha, Hop Boy, 9 00:00:41,520 --> 00:00:47,160 Speaker 1: Trey Kirby, hel Heyo and over Yonder making the magic happen. 10 00:00:47,240 --> 00:00:50,400 Speaker 2: Super producer JD. Hello, there he is and here we are. 11 00:00:50,520 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: Shout out to the stream team. Joining us live right 12 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:56,440 Speaker 1: now on YouTube. Subscribe, like, comment, share the show, p 13 00:00:56,640 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 1: yp baby, play your part, Okay, Email in your NBA 14 00:01:02,080 --> 00:01:04,400 Speaker 1: questions to No Dunks at the Athletic Dot comments what 15 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: we're doing on today's beach step and read in your 16 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:07,560 Speaker 1: emails and your tweets. 17 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:10,840 Speaker 2: This week's No Dunk schedule. It's a doozy. 18 00:01:11,480 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 1: The NBA season starts tomorrow night You you weird. It 19 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,839 Speaker 1: doesn't feel like it is to me, but it does. 20 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,360 Speaker 1: But we got a lot of shows coming at you 21 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: from the Classic Factory tomorrow. We're gonna do some NBA tears, 22 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: both the East and the West, breaking them down. 23 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 2: Who's Tier one? Is there a? One? A and one b? 24 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 3: Oh? 25 00:01:30,160 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: Tier two? Those tiers? Yeah, well, not crying tears. You're 26 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,360 Speaker 2: saying the saddest things we can think about this. Oh 27 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 2: you want to do that instead? Yeah, bring your sadut 28 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 2: potential moment to the podcast. 29 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 1: There'll be a form of tears tomorrow live at ten 30 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: am Eastern here from the Classic Factory. Later in the day, 31 00:01:46,880 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 1: no Bunts with task breaking down the latest in the 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: What was that? What do you call that? Division series? 33 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:55,920 Speaker 3: That's right? Yeah, they'll be over tonight when the Yankees 34 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 3: lose to the Guardians. I loved a John the Championship 35 00:01:58,840 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 3: series coming up. 36 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 2: On your shot, are you? 37 00:02:01,640 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 3: It's tough. It's tough with the bloop Brigade as they're 38 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,480 Speaker 3: called by the Athletics, the Guardians, they bloop you to death. 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,000 Speaker 3: No dingers, but they'll get it done. They'll get it 40 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 3: done against the Yanks. 41 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:13,080 Speaker 2: Okay, So that's no buns tomorrow. 42 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:16,320 Speaker 3: That's a Grant Brisbee special. Do the Blue Brigade so good? 43 00:02:16,400 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 2: That's good. 44 00:02:17,480 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: Then in the afternoon tomorrow at around three thirty pm Eastern, 45 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: the Athletic NBA Show. They're doing a live stream to 46 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: get everybody hyped for the NBA season. A couple of 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,359 Speaker 1: us are going to jump on that, yes, sir, so 48 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 1: we'll be joining their cast of characters the Athletic NBA Show. 49 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: We'll be tweeting out all this and then this is new. 50 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:37,639 Speaker 1: We're gonna give it a go, a little pregame stream 51 00:02:38,080 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: to get you hyped for six or Celtics the first 52 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: game on t T tomorrow night, so around six forty five, 53 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:45,400 Speaker 1: No dungks, we'll just go live on YouTube. 54 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: It won't be a podcast. 55 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Come hang with us as we go over our you know, 56 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,440 Speaker 1: last minute thoughts before the actual season starts. 57 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,079 Speaker 2: So busy, busy day. 58 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:57,680 Speaker 3: A lot on Tuesday. We'll be crying, we'll be basket bunds. 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,800 Speaker 3: Then we'll take a surf Foster quick pregame stream and 60 00:03:00,840 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: we'll be ready to go. 61 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 2: That's right and hitting dingers. Don't forget oh I forgot. 62 00:03:04,080 --> 00:03:06,760 Speaker 3: About We're blooping it baby, okay, okay. 63 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: And then the rest of the week, you know, once 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 1: Wednesday hits, it's into The Daily Show live at ten 65 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 1: am Eastern on YouTube. 66 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:16,440 Speaker 2: Quickly turned into a podcast. The Drop on Friday, We've 67 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: got is this good? What Else? 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Look 87 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: at tray Rock and he's got the sample. 88 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 2: That's right. How's it feel? 89 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: It looks actually awesome on you? 90 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:25,600 Speaker 2: Thanks man. Yeah, yeah, I actually think it looks pretty 91 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:29,080 Speaker 2: good too. It's where pink Week at school for my girls. 92 00:04:29,200 --> 00:04:31,400 Speaker 2: I felt I was playing my part as well. It 93 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: also kind of reminds me of like what Brett the 94 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,080 Speaker 2: Hitman Heart would wear. This could be like Heart foundation gear. 95 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:41,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, the best there is, best there was, the best 96 00:04:41,960 --> 00:04:42,479 Speaker 1: ever will be. 97 00:04:42,680 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 2: Oh, maybe we should start marketing the podcast is that 98 00:04:45,839 --> 00:04:49,480 Speaker 2: he should we do that? Bret Heart put us in 99 00:04:49,520 --> 00:04:52,040 Speaker 2: a shop shooter tam dance for a while. I'm gonna 100 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 2: check that trademark office with the United States government here. 101 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: We did have some big news over the NBA weekend 102 00:04:58,480 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: as well. The Warriors made two huge commitments on Saturday 103 00:05:02,240 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 1: by signing Andrew Wiggins and Jordan Poole to separate four 104 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 1: year contract extensions. Wiggins deal reportedly worth about one hundred 105 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 1: and nine million, so he's taking a pay cut, which 106 00:05:11,200 --> 00:05:14,880 Speaker 1: is interesting. And then Pool reportedly will receive one hundred 107 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:18,480 Speaker 1: and twenty three million in guaranteed money with the chance 108 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:21,480 Speaker 1: to make another seventeen million in incentives over the life 109 00:05:21,520 --> 00:05:24,479 Speaker 1: of the deal. So four to one oh nine Wiggins 110 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,480 Speaker 1: four one forty. That's what the headline says for Pool. 111 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,080 Speaker 1: But as I just said, it's really one twenty three, 112 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,840 Speaker 1: and then you got the incentives. What do you think 113 00:05:31,839 --> 00:05:34,840 Speaker 1: about these? Shocked at all with the amount Pool got 114 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: there with Wiggins, what he's doing, and then what this 115 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: all means maybe for Dramond. 116 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, the big thing is what it means for Draymond 117 00:05:40,720 --> 00:05:43,320 Speaker 3: because I expected with the Warriors, how they pay guys, 118 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,520 Speaker 3: to pay Wiggins and Pool. I guess when you see 119 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 3: him back to back, the two guys who celebrated the championship, 120 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 3: and we're in the locker room saying to each other, Hey, 121 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 3: you're gonna get it BEG. You're gonna get it beg. 122 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,760 Speaker 2: They both got. 123 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,120 Speaker 3: Bags on the exact same day. Pool has handled the 124 00:05:58,200 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 3: Draymond sucker punch very very well. He has come in 125 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 3: basically not said anything to disrupt the chemistry, has been bawling, 126 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 3: and they believe that he is going to be a 127 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,680 Speaker 3: great player. To pay him one twenty three guarantee just 128 00:06:12,680 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 3: a little more than the Tyler hero contract, just a 129 00:06:14,839 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: little more because you're that good, plus seventeen mel along 130 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: with the Wiggins deal. Who he I think, as you said, 131 00:06:21,040 --> 00:06:23,200 Speaker 3: a little bit of a cut. He feels good in 132 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 3: Golden State. I went back and looked at an interview. 133 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 3: When I interviewed him in Minnesota, it just it was 134 00:06:30,160 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: just a quick little a little sound by, just a 135 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,039 Speaker 3: quick little interview. And not to say he was unhappy 136 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 3: in Minnesota, but he in this interview he wasn't happy. 137 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:42,000 Speaker 3: He's talking to you, Yeah, but there was a lot 138 00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:45,359 Speaker 3: of pressure there, uh, and I was in I was 139 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:48,799 Speaker 3: very no. I wasn't pressurizing Andrew Waker. I was asking 140 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 3: about loonies and bag milk, as you often do with 141 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,120 Speaker 3: the Canadian, the only questions you can ask a Canadian. 142 00:06:54,440 --> 00:06:55,880 Speaker 3: I asked him if he was gonna be dun contest. 143 00:06:55,920 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: He just shook his head. I don't think he said no. 144 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:00,760 Speaker 3: I think he just shook his head and answer. I 145 00:07:01,160 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 3: will say though he was. He was paid a ton 146 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 3: in Minnesota, so he got his due and he was 147 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,440 Speaker 3: the number one guy there, and he feels better in 148 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:12,679 Speaker 3: this role here. The question is what this means for Draymond. 149 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 3: He's guaranteed this year and then a player option for 150 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: the next year. And honestly, what this means for Clay 151 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:20,640 Speaker 3: because he has two more guaranteed years as well. Because 152 00:07:20,680 --> 00:07:23,080 Speaker 3: if they're paying Pool and they're paying Curry, and they're paying 153 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 3: Wigans and they're playing Looney. It's good, they're good. Those 154 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 3: other guys are gonna have to take a pay cut. 155 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:29,440 Speaker 3: Drey and Clay are gonna have to take a pay 156 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 3: cut because you could replace Drey with in theory, not 157 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 3: not as good a player, but the James Wiseman kuminga 158 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,560 Speaker 3: moody trio and be a heck of a lot cheaper 159 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: because they're paying these other guys a lot more. And yeah, 160 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 3: the fact is Dre is going to be thirty five 161 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,119 Speaker 3: when these two years are done, and so is Clay. 162 00:07:46,400 --> 00:07:49,160 Speaker 3: So unless Dray and Clay are going to take a 163 00:07:49,200 --> 00:07:53,960 Speaker 3: pay cut, this is the last dances, especially for for Dre, 164 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 3: who's not guaranteed that second year. So I think he's 165 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 3: going to be a professional this season. You said Trey 166 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:02,760 Speaker 3: last year or last week that this is last dance 167 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 3: kind of feel. I think he'll be into it. But 168 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 3: long term, if he's going to be there, it's got 169 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:08,480 Speaker 3: to be a pay cut. 170 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 2: Oh, absolutely right. Tim Kaalakami mentions in his Peace breaking 171 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 2: down the ins and outs of everything on the Athletic 172 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,960 Speaker 2: Subscribe to the Athletic dot Com slash no Dunks one 173 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 2: hundred and twenty three million dollars basically for their guard 174 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:24,080 Speaker 2: rotation of Steph Clay and now Pool. As Tim says, 175 00:08:24,120 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 2: the stage is being set for Draymond to depart this 176 00:08:26,280 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 2: team in July or earlier. Quite frankly. I like that 177 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,680 Speaker 2: he adds in the quite frankly as well. So I 178 00:08:32,679 --> 00:08:35,400 Speaker 2: guess the question will be, does Draymond, at the end 179 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 2: of this season, when he's getting to be like thirty 180 00:08:37,160 --> 00:08:40,120 Speaker 2: three years old, does he value having the long years 181 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:43,439 Speaker 2: ahead of him overtaken a pay cut? Like if you 182 00:08:43,480 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 2: can find a way to take a pay cut the 183 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:47,040 Speaker 2: way Andrew Wiggins did and still somehow make one hundred 184 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,640 Speaker 2: and nine million dollars, that's a solid pay cut, Just 185 00:08:49,679 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 2: a solid hundred million dollars deal that's pitched as a 186 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 2: pay cut. But I'm with you. I think the development 187 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:58,320 Speaker 2: specifically of Wiseman is massive for the Warriors this season 188 00:08:58,320 --> 00:09:00,240 Speaker 2: because that will give them a little bit of an 189 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 2: idea of if they want to try the next era 190 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 2: to really go forward without Draymond. It's hard to imagine 191 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: them without Draymond. He's the most indispensable, indispensable guy outside 192 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,480 Speaker 2: of Steph Curry. Obviously, the writing on the wall is 193 00:09:15,520 --> 00:09:17,760 Speaker 2: there for Clay, like you're saying task. But the good 194 00:09:17,760 --> 00:09:20,480 Speaker 2: thing is he's signed for next season as well too. 195 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: He's expensive, but it would cost them probably a player 196 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: to trade him away because his contract is so big, 197 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 2: so they'll likely keep him because they're going to want 198 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:30,800 Speaker 2: to keep the young guys as well. But this does 199 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 2: feel like we're coming to the end of the Steph 200 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 2: Clay and Draymond era of the Warriors. That being said, 201 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:38,559 Speaker 2: if you win a back to back title, it's kind 202 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:39,440 Speaker 2: of hard to walk away from them. 203 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an important piece to all of this. How 204 00:09:41,360 --> 00:09:43,439 Speaker 1: they do this season, how he plays, how it all 205 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 1: obviously comes together. Can they run through that West Gautlin? 206 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,920 Speaker 1: Can they win in the finals again if they get there? 207 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: Because if Draymond remains with the Warriors through the upcoming 208 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,880 Speaker 1: season and then he exercises that player option twenty seven million, 209 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: twenty eight million Ballpark, Golden State would be looking at 210 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: a roster bill a four one hundred and eighty three 211 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:05,960 Speaker 1: million at least nearly half a billion. When we're talking 212 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: talking luxury taxes here, I mean, it's. 213 00:10:08,280 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 2: Just insane to wrap your head around. 214 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 1: And they had a massive one that they just won 215 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,240 Speaker 1: the title with but they have said, the owners there 216 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: in Golden State that they prefer not to go over that, 217 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,200 Speaker 1: you know, like it's high as it is, let's not 218 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 1: go to the half a billion stage. So this is 219 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 1: why it was always fascinated. Fascinating to see are they 220 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: picking is it is it Pool and Wiggans over Draymond 221 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:32,480 Speaker 1: or what are they doing here? And they have time 222 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,719 Speaker 1: to figure it out. But it does feel like this 223 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: could be Draymond's last year with the team, especially as 224 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,440 Speaker 1: you said, with the the younger guys in the forwards 225 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,080 Speaker 1: position coming up in the ranks. 226 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense. Wiseman has had a heck of 227 00:10:44,960 --> 00:10:48,920 Speaker 3: a preseason, But I don't see Draymond getting traded this 228 00:10:48,960 --> 00:10:52,200 Speaker 3: season at all. I think he gets another run, just 229 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,240 Speaker 3: out of a respect level, out of an importance level, 230 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 3: the fact that he's a VET versus we're talking about 231 00:10:57,880 --> 00:10:59,959 Speaker 3: guys who could replace him that are extremely young, white, 232 00:11:00,120 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 3: it's barely been on an NBA floor and the other guys, yeah, 233 00:11:03,679 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 3: you know, even if we're talking Kuminga or somebody like that, 234 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 3: not a lot of experience. I think he gets a 235 00:11:08,559 --> 00:11:11,440 Speaker 3: full season and even if he exercises that option, they 236 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 3: could trade him next year and not have to pay 237 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 3: that bill, which is for every dollar you sign a guy, 238 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,520 Speaker 3: you pay another eight dollars in luxury tax. It's a lot, 239 00:11:19,559 --> 00:11:22,240 Speaker 3: but the Warriors have indicated that their bank roll is 240 00:11:22,280 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 3: not unlimited. They let Gary Payton the second go, They 241 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,720 Speaker 3: let Auto Porter go this past offseason because they didn't 242 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,680 Speaker 3: want to pay that eight to one ratio. We're talking 243 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 3: luxury tax. So I buy the Draymond gets this year, 244 00:11:34,720 --> 00:11:37,800 Speaker 3: and I think he could say I'm done, he exercise 245 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 3: the player option, get me out of here, even if 246 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:42,760 Speaker 3: they win a championship. It's a quieish thing, but you know, 247 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: it could be the end. He could won another big 248 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:46,520 Speaker 3: pay day and the Warriors are not going to give 249 00:11:46,600 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 3: him a big payday. I think that's the clear indicator here, 250 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:54,160 Speaker 3: like not a thirty per for forty more years. 251 00:11:54,160 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: And I do think Draymond could decline his player option 252 00:11:56,960 --> 00:11:58,920 Speaker 1: and then try and sign a multi year deal stay 253 00:11:58,960 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: with the Warriors for less wiggans like. 254 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:04,160 Speaker 2: It's a one hundred million dollars probably. 255 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,079 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it depends on the number. 256 00:12:07,080 --> 00:12:09,240 Speaker 2: Krenglin number depends on how he plays this year too. 257 00:12:09,320 --> 00:12:09,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 258 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 2: Well, listen, dres signed They signed Clay to an extension 259 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:13,840 Speaker 2: when he was coming off of an injury and then 260 00:12:13,840 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: he got hurt again. So they gave him a kind 261 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:18,679 Speaker 2: of thanks for your service contract. Maybe they would do 262 00:12:18,720 --> 00:12:21,880 Speaker 2: the same for Draymond. Here's a bold take. If Draymond 263 00:12:22,160 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 2: leaves the Warriors after this season, Steph Curry will not 264 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,640 Speaker 2: win another title in Golden State. It's never good when 265 00:12:27,679 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 2: management runs the stars out of the out of the 266 00:12:30,679 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 2: legacy team. It just doesn't work. 267 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:35,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, but Draymond helped out with that sucker punch and 268 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,680 Speaker 3: I think with the play as well. I think that 269 00:12:37,800 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 3: that's the big part of it here. 270 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 2: He was great in the finals after like the first 271 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 2: two games. 272 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:45,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was a roller coaster to get there. You know, 273 00:12:45,480 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 3: he's sad at the end of one game and came 274 00:12:48,240 --> 00:12:51,320 Speaker 3: back in they so, I mean, yeah, he was good, 275 00:12:51,400 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 3: But how good is he going to be at the 276 00:12:52,880 --> 00:12:54,520 Speaker 3: age thirty three and then thirty four? I got the 277 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 3: math wrong. At the end of next year, he'll be 278 00:12:56,800 --> 00:13:00,439 Speaker 3: thirty four. Same with Clay. I know. With the the 279 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:03,560 Speaker 3: coming of James Wiseman, he was good. He was good. 280 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:05,880 Speaker 2: Wiseman can't pass like Draymond can. It gets a lot 281 00:13:05,920 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 2: harder for Steph Curry if Draymond's around as well, I think, 282 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 2: which is probably why they are so interested in having 283 00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:13,520 Speaker 2: Pool there as a secondary creator, because Draymond does average 284 00:13:13,520 --> 00:13:16,280 Speaker 2: seven assists per game, He's a great passer, and nobody's 285 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: better at finding Steph when he's open. So I don't know. 286 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,439 Speaker 2: I would be nervous if I'm the Warriors contemplating a 287 00:13:22,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: Draymond list future. 288 00:13:23,880 --> 00:13:24,920 Speaker 3: That's fair. That's fair. 289 00:13:25,040 --> 00:13:28,640 Speaker 1: In other extension news here, the Grizzlies and Brandon Clark 290 00:13:29,840 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: reached a four year, fifty two million dollar extension, so 291 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: significantly less, of course than your Pool in Wiggins. But he's, 292 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:38,440 Speaker 1: you know, at least in this stage of his career, 293 00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: half the player. I would say of those guys he 294 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: avers ten to five and a block last. 295 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:44,319 Speaker 2: Year in sixty four games. 296 00:13:44,320 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: I though he's really good. He was a key contributor 297 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: during their playoff run too. I had forgotten that in 298 00:13:49,240 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: three wins Clark against the Wolves went for twenty and eight, 299 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: twenty one, and fifteen, and then had a seventeen and 300 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 1: eleven to five game with three blocks in that game, 301 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: six clinchery. It's three really monster games with the Jared 302 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: Jackson junior injury. He should get some more time here 303 00:14:04,400 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 1: to start the season. So that seems like a pretty 304 00:14:06,520 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: damn good deal. 305 00:14:07,800 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 3: Four for fifty seems fair. And he's gonna get better. Yeah, Yeah, 306 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:14,840 Speaker 3: he's he's a hard worker. A good article on The 307 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: Athletic from Fred Katz about Brandon Clark and his journey here. 308 00:14:19,280 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: He wasn't a huge guy in high school. He had 309 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,640 Speaker 3: to struggle to get there. So I think he'll be 310 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 3: better and he's going to be coming off the Benridges, 311 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,160 Speaker 3: maybe surprising to some because Steven Adams is gonna be starting. 312 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 3: He's a backup five. He ain't the backup four. He's 313 00:14:31,240 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: not taking Jared Jackson Junior's minutes as a starter. And 314 00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 3: they've got enough guys to make it happen. But cool 315 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 3: for them to continue to pay guys. And you know, 316 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:43,160 Speaker 3: I'm in no bunts baseball mode, but I've got Alex 317 00:14:43,280 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 3: Nthopplels and what he's doing with the Brave and just 318 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,760 Speaker 3: signing guys really early to deals that they should be 319 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 3: able to surpass in terms of their performance, and that's 320 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 3: what seems like Brandon Clark can do with his twelve. 321 00:14:53,320 --> 00:14:55,400 Speaker 2: Mil any thoughts on the Grizz signing here a contract. 322 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 2: This is going to be one of the best contracts 323 00:14:57,320 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: in the league as soon as the cap goes up. 324 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 2: It's already a pretty small yearly number. And he's a 325 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 2: really good player. Like he might not be a starter 326 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:06,720 Speaker 2: long term, but he's gonna be. With Jared Jackson Junior 327 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 2: out to start the season, JJJA has missed time regularly 328 00:15:10,320 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: during his career there with the Grizzlies. I think it's 329 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: smart to keep a solid backup big around in Brandon 330 00:15:15,600 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: Clark as well. Maybe all that practice, I'll remember how 331 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 2: to shoot three pointers, because that's a really weird thing. Yeah, 332 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:25,120 Speaker 2: we're buzzing hard here, but I feel like he's Montreze 333 00:15:25,120 --> 00:15:26,800 Speaker 2: Harald type, but he can actually play defense. 334 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:30,560 Speaker 1: So good stuff, all right, jd uh not sure if 335 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: we'll loast the stream team. If they're hearing that, they're okay, 336 00:15:35,840 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: We're fine, Okay, Well, yeah, just turn all of a sudden, 337 00:15:40,480 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: the Brooklyn nets to I'll keep going here announced on 338 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:47,200 Speaker 1: Sunday that guards Seth Curry and Joe Harris will not 339 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,560 Speaker 1: be ready for the regular season opener against the Pelicans 340 00:15:50,600 --> 00:15:54,800 Speaker 1: as they continue their respective rehab plans. Seth Curry underwent 341 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:57,840 Speaker 1: offseason ankle surgery, and Joe Harris had two ankle surgeries 342 00:15:57,880 --> 00:16:00,440 Speaker 1: last season which limited him to just for team games. 343 00:16:00,480 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 1: So Royce O'Neil is going to get the start and 344 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:04,680 Speaker 1: we'll see how long it takes for these guys to 345 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: get back, but pretty instrumental. If the Nets are gonna 346 00:16:06,880 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: be a real team this. 347 00:16:07,840 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 3: Year, they will need those guys for sure. It's gonna 348 00:16:12,040 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 3: be a It's gonna be some we're talking about. I 349 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 3: think the first few weeks they would take a lot 350 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:21,200 Speaker 3: of pressure off the big stars of the Brooklyn Nets. 351 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:23,560 Speaker 3: You may not want to be talking about the Brooklyn 352 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:25,280 Speaker 3: Nets the first few weeks of the season, but it's 353 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:27,720 Speaker 3: gonna happen. It's gonna happen. We're gonna be talking a 354 00:16:27,720 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 3: lot about them, I think. 355 00:16:29,320 --> 00:16:31,400 Speaker 2: Any thoughts on this, I don't think that Seth Curry 356 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 2: and Joe Harris are make or break for the Brooklyn Nets. 357 00:16:33,760 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: But I still can't believe I let you guys trick 358 00:16:35,360 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 2: me into taking the over for this team. They've already got. 359 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 2: Three of their top ten guys are out of the 360 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: rotation now, including TJ. Warren. One of the top ten 361 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 2: is Ben Simmons, who hasn't played basketball in sixteen months. 362 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 2: Two of the other ones are Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant, 363 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 2: So if any of those guys go down, it's a 364 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 2: way bigger deal. But not a great start to the 365 00:16:54,440 --> 00:16:57,120 Speaker 2: season for the Nets, especially the Joe Harris thing man. 366 00:16:57,120 --> 00:16:59,080 Speaker 2: He's been out for such a long time and it 367 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:01,760 Speaker 2: feels like he probably won't get back to the Klay 368 00:17:01,800 --> 00:17:04,719 Speaker 2: Thompson light kind of character he was early in his 369 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 2: Nets career. 370 00:17:06,119 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: Should we get into our first question? All right, first question, Hey, dunksters, 371 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 1: I had an interesting thought this weekend. Imagine the Lakers 372 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 1: pan out even worse than many of us expect this year. 373 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: There's a reasonable chance they become a lottery team. This 374 00:17:21,320 --> 00:17:25,480 Speaker 1: means there's an actual statistical possibility they could wind up 375 00:17:25,520 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 1: with the number one pick in next year's draft and 376 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:30,919 Speaker 1: win the WEBBA Yama Sweepstakes. Imagine the best prospect in 377 00:17:30,960 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: a generation going to one of the NBA's biggest and 378 00:17:33,160 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: most glamorous franchises. That is, of course, until New Orleans 379 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 1: gets there. Anthony Davis Pickswap from La Aha, what a 380 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: twist snatches him away, which is exactly what would happen. 381 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: I'm embarrassed to admit how much joy this realization brought 382 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,240 Speaker 1: to me when I played this out. I rarely take 383 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:54,000 Speaker 1: pleasure in the misfortune of others, but with the Lakers, 384 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,399 Speaker 1: I make an exception. What is your biggest NBA shot 385 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: and throw to a moment of the last last twenty years. 386 00:18:01,960 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 1: Congrats on your eighteen years, been with you for all 387 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: of them. That is from Jamrio Moonnight, which is a 388 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:13,240 Speaker 1: great name, good question, and he's he's hoping this comes 389 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: to fruition here that the Lakers struggled that bad win 390 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 1: the number one pick, and oh, here you go, here 391 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:18,719 Speaker 1: you go to New Orleans. 392 00:18:18,960 --> 00:18:19,120 Speaker 2: Uh. 393 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a tough question where you drive some pleasure 394 00:18:22,520 --> 00:18:25,600 Speaker 3: from someone's pain in the National Basketball Association, but I 395 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:29,040 Speaker 3: think in twenty eleven MAVs heat it was the Heatles' 396 00:18:29,080 --> 00:18:34,400 Speaker 3: first NBA Finals with Lebron and Dwayne Wade. After Game four, 397 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,160 Speaker 3: Dirk played with an illness. It was the Game five 398 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:41,120 Speaker 3: shoot around that morning, and shoot around had just ended. 399 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 3: Dwayne Wade and Lebron were walking down a hallway. Camera 400 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:48,439 Speaker 3: shoved in Dwayne Wade's face and he performed for the 401 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 3: camera and mocked. Dirk Novitsky. I've got a sickness and 402 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:57,720 Speaker 3: Lebron followed suit. So they were both mocking Dirk for 403 00:18:58,200 --> 00:19:02,120 Speaker 3: playing with an illness when this was too too And 404 00:19:03,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 3: in a way, I was kind of happy that the 405 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:08,120 Speaker 3: Heat lost because they acted like kids and mock Dirk. 406 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,399 Speaker 3: And you know, I had one of those Weight and 407 00:19:11,480 --> 00:19:14,160 Speaker 3: Lebron moments too. I had a moment that I want 408 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,399 Speaker 3: to take back. Vince Carter was traded from the Toronto 409 00:19:17,480 --> 00:19:20,280 Speaker 3: Raptors in two thousand and four. He went played with 410 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 3: the nets. He came back to the Air Canna Center. 411 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,040 Speaker 3: I was up in the nosebleeds back when you could 412 00:19:24,040 --> 00:19:26,639 Speaker 3: pay a reasonable price for a seat in Air Canada, 413 00:19:27,119 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 3: and he got on the floor. The arena was booing. 414 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:34,400 Speaker 3: It was a great, great game. He kicked the Raptor's 415 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 3: ass and at the end of it, I thought I'd 416 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,000 Speaker 3: throw in. I yelled out, you'll never win anything, Vince, 417 00:19:40,600 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: and I feel bad about that because he never won anything. 418 00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,120 Speaker 3: He never won. He did win my heart, and that's 419 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:48,320 Speaker 3: why he hurt me. He hurt me, and that's how 420 00:19:48,320 --> 00:19:51,119 Speaker 3: I acted out. I responded in that manner, and so 421 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:56,520 Speaker 3: that was my shot in Freud moment. But we all 422 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,760 Speaker 3: made up. Vince is cool with it. He heard me, 423 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 3: and then he came back on. He came on the 424 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 3: starts a few times and all good and wait and 425 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 3: Lebron apologized for what they what they did, young young 426 00:20:07,600 --> 00:20:10,439 Speaker 3: guys acting out in front of the camera there, but 427 00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: it's a it's not a good clip, not a good 428 00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 3: look for them. 429 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:15,680 Speaker 2: Came back to buy them in the ass. Came back 430 00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:18,440 Speaker 2: to buy them in the ass. You speaking of getting 431 00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,080 Speaker 2: bit in the ass. For me, it was when the 432 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 2: Paul Pierce wheelchair game story got revealed to be a 433 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 2: potential poot pants story. Still unclear what really actually happened 434 00:20:29,560 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 2: and why Paul Pierce had to go to the back, 435 00:20:31,640 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: but I'm going to believe deep in my heart that 436 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,360 Speaker 2: it was a poop pants incident and that coming out 437 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 2: of like a classic, most iconic moment for a player 438 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:42,719 Speaker 2: who a lot of players people like to root against 439 00:20:42,760 --> 00:20:47,479 Speaker 2: myself included very funny that would be revealed as a 440 00:20:47,560 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 2: possible reason. It's more than likely he just had to 441 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 2: go back for any other reason, but that's the most 442 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:54,359 Speaker 2: fun one. 443 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,879 Speaker 3: To believe it. Yeah, it absolutely is. 444 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,119 Speaker 1: That's a fun question. If you've got answers, let let 445 00:21:00,160 --> 00:21:02,200 Speaker 1: us know in the stream team right now. Tweet them 446 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: in at No dunk Sinc. Or drop them in the 447 00:21:04,119 --> 00:21:08,040 Speaker 1: comments section if you're watching this later on YouTube. JD 448 00:21:08,240 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: still trying to figure out what the hell is going 449 00:21:10,359 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: on here in the Classic Factory. 450 00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:13,600 Speaker 4: We're happy the good news is, but I don't think 451 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,480 Speaker 4: people are hearing it. 452 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:17,880 Speaker 1: It's not it's something with our connection just to our headphones. 453 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,160 Speaker 4: Where it's just and I'll creep around. 454 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: The boys are buzzing in the headphones for sure. Yes, 455 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 1: but let's take our first break. Maybe JD can hopefully 456 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 1: figure this out. And we got tons more questions here 457 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: in Beach Stepnoko anywhere. All right back to the beach task. 458 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,520 Speaker 1: You got our next one here. We got some great 459 00:21:34,600 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: questions that everybody sent in sentiment No dunks at the 460 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:38,680 Speaker 1: Athletic dot commor tweet them at no dunzink. 461 00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: Oh on No dunks Scarttie Barnes will average a twenty 462 00:21:41,800 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 3: five point triple double, lead the Raptors to a top 463 00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:49,639 Speaker 3: four seat and win Most Improved and MVP. What is 464 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:53,160 Speaker 3: one outlandish prediction you have for this season that would 465 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,640 Speaker 3: make you look like a wizard if it comes true? 466 00:21:56,160 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: Josh W bring in the Scottie Barnes prediction. Wow, a 467 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 3: little much, but go for it, Josh, go for it. 468 00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 3: Who else? You're a wizard, Josh. 469 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 2: Kirby, what do you got? Nobody called me by the 470 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:11,159 Speaker 2: last name. 471 00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:14,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was gonna say, you're a wizard Kirby. 472 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 2: Okay, you're a wizard. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm familiar 473 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: for me. I think it would be the Bulls getting 474 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: a top four seed in the Eastern Conference. I don't 475 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 2: even think it's true. I don't actually think it's gonna happen. 476 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 2: But I had to say something about the Bulls because 477 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:29,960 Speaker 2: they're the least talked about team in the league right now. 478 00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:33,480 Speaker 2: It's crazy. You don't hear anything about the Bulls right now. 479 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,199 Speaker 2: Season ended poorly last year. They got blown out by 480 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 2: the Bucks at the end of their playoff series. A 481 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 2: large part of the reason that they came in or 482 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:45,160 Speaker 2: that they struggled so much last year was injuries. They're 483 00:22:45,160 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 2: coming in and injured this year. But it's like, can 484 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:51,640 Speaker 2: we get some mention on a single a single national podcast. Here, 485 00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:53,959 Speaker 2: look at their division. Okay, this is the saddest thing 486 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: to me. Bucks come up all the time. They're a 487 00:22:55,720 --> 00:23:00,520 Speaker 2: championship contender, understandable. Cleveland Cavaliers surprise team last year, traded 488 00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:03,000 Speaker 2: for Donovan Mitchell. They get talked about all the time. 489 00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:06,280 Speaker 2: Chicago Bulls finished second in the division last year. They 490 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 2: were a good team. They've still got two All Stars. 491 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:12,000 Speaker 2: You hear about them so much fewer than the Pacers, 492 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,360 Speaker 2: who are complete trash and the Detroit Pistons, who might 493 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 2: be exciting this year. You hear so much more about 494 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 2: the Pacers and Pistons. And they're gonna get as many 495 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: wins as the Bulls get for this entire season combined. 496 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:25,199 Speaker 2: So the Bulls are gonna finish the number four in 497 00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:27,080 Speaker 2: the Eastern Conference. What a wizard. 498 00:23:26,880 --> 00:23:30,159 Speaker 1: Alohamra outlandish, but you are true most that they are 499 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:31,080 Speaker 1: not talked about a lot. 500 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,040 Speaker 2: No, no, not at all. Even me, I'm not that 501 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 2: excited to talk about him this year. I'm like, well, 502 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 2: who knows. 503 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:39,360 Speaker 1: There is a big part of it is like, yeah, 504 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,080 Speaker 1: they just didn't do anything in the off season of 505 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 1: any real note. 506 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 2: So they didn't do anything. 507 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:46,159 Speaker 1: You can't even like debate like, oh that'll be a 508 00:23:46,200 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 1: game changer or that'll hurt them, Like there's just really nothing. 509 00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:52,000 Speaker 1: Of course, the injuries and yeah, it's tough to like. 510 00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,199 Speaker 1: Top four would be crazy, that would be amazing, I think, 511 00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,560 Speaker 1: especially when we've gone over all the Eastern Conference teams. 512 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: But you can't, yeah, outside of like maybe they're a 513 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 1: playing team, it's tough to like convince yourself otherwise. 514 00:24:03,920 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: It's really weird. I'm with you on that one. Forty 515 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:07,800 Speaker 2: six wins last year, I know they were five away 516 00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,479 Speaker 2: from having home court in the first round, but it 517 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,800 Speaker 2: doesn't feel like that this year because the Calves have 518 00:24:13,920 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: likely passed them up with the Mitchell acquisition, not to 519 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,720 Speaker 2: mention just another year of growth the Hawks could pass 520 00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 2: them up. I think that one's kind of still up 521 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:23,680 Speaker 2: in the air. The Raptors didn't do anything this year, 522 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 2: but people are giving the Raptors a whole lot of respect, 523 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:28,359 Speaker 2: even though they got smoked in the playoffs last year 524 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:28,680 Speaker 2: as well. 525 00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:31,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, the Reps aren't talked about a lot. 526 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,159 Speaker 2: Not truth, Raptors are talked about all the time because 527 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:37,280 Speaker 2: there's a big Canadian influence among NBA media with you 528 00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,199 Speaker 2: two and Zachlow. Yeah, that's why the Raptors come up 529 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:41,680 Speaker 2: all the time. 530 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, because I think they come up because they're disrespected 531 00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: amongst the non Canadian media. So the Canadians got to 532 00:24:48,320 --> 00:24:50,480 Speaker 3: stand up. They won forty eight games last year and 533 00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 3: are healthier and they should be a fifty win team. 534 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:56,200 Speaker 3: So the Canadians are standing up for the non Canadians 535 00:24:56,800 --> 00:25:00,920 Speaker 3: On NBA TV, as I mentioned earlier, Brendan Haywood didn't 536 00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 3: have them as a postseason team. It's a repeat of 537 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 3: Dennis Scott from last year with NBA TV. How do 538 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,199 Speaker 3: you not have them as a playoff team when they're healthier, 539 00:25:08,280 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 3: unlike the Bulls, who it is surprising, Yeah, how little 540 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,040 Speaker 3: they're talked about considering they're a forty six when they 541 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: were a forty six win team last year. I'd say 542 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:19,120 Speaker 3: we're talking wizardry. I'd say even the Magic are talked 543 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:22,919 Speaker 3: about more exactly right now as being a bad team 544 00:25:23,400 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 3: that'll go away in the first few weeks. You know. 545 00:25:25,480 --> 00:25:28,919 Speaker 3: It's probably like basically the Magic and Pacers, and to 546 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,200 Speaker 3: some degree the Pistons are talked about as which team 547 00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 3: is going to end up the fifteenth seed in the 548 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:36,080 Speaker 3: Eastern Conference. Really that's what it's about, So that'll go away. 549 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,200 Speaker 3: But the Bulls, yeah, they're overlooked. It is. It is wild. 550 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:42,719 Speaker 3: The Lonzo injury is a huge chunk of it. But 551 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 3: they should be good, they should be solid. But I 552 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:48,960 Speaker 3: do think the Cleveland Cavaliers have passed them up and 553 00:25:49,000 --> 00:25:52,359 Speaker 3: that's why my prediction is the Calves will be the 554 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 3: three seed. It's not relish, but still for them to 555 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: be a three seed with the Bucks Celtics, I think, 556 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 3: I don't know, depending on how you look at things, 557 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:07,720 Speaker 3: would be the top two seeds for a lot of teams. 558 00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:09,640 Speaker 3: I think it's gonna be the Sixers and the Celtics. 559 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:11,280 Speaker 3: But that would mean if the Calves are the three seed, 560 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,159 Speaker 3: that they're passing one of those teams they're passing, you know, 561 00:26:14,200 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 3: either the Sixers plus the heat U plus your Raptors 562 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:22,320 Speaker 3: plus the NEETs obviously plus the Bulls. So a third 563 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,879 Speaker 3: place finish would be monstrous, and I could see that happening. 564 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:30,520 Speaker 3: Forty four win team last year with a lot of injuries. 565 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,720 Speaker 3: Everybody was injured, and I think the chemistry is gonna 566 00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 3: be so good and able to bring in Donovan Mitchell 567 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,439 Speaker 3: and ride it. I think I think it's going to 568 00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 3: be great. So a fifty win team I do expect 569 00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:45,200 Speaker 3: them to be, and they could be a top four seed. 570 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:48,840 Speaker 3: Let's go top three. Let's go top three and old 571 00:26:48,840 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 3: takes exposed. That's that's It's not it's not it's not 572 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:54,440 Speaker 3: even good enough for an old takes exposed. 573 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 2: But you just said you got the raptors of the 574 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 2: fifty win team. Yeah, and the Calves yeah. I assume 575 00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,760 Speaker 2: the Bucks yeah, and the same yeah. And the Celtics 576 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 2: and the Celtics five to fifty teams, five. 577 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: Fifty win teams. How's that going to happen? I don't know. 578 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 2: And the Bolls are going to finish fourth in the Eastern. 579 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:08,520 Speaker 2: It doesn't add up. 580 00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,840 Speaker 3: It doesn't add up. Well, those those other teams are 581 00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:15,679 Speaker 3: going to win five games each. The Magic, Pistons, Pacers, 582 00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 3: Hornets are going to be down. There's it's yeah. So 583 00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,000 Speaker 3: it's a wild conference. But they'll all win fifty, no 584 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:24,040 Speaker 3: more than fifty, and the mass should work out. 585 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,359 Speaker 1: I'll stick with a team prediction here. Then as my 586 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:28,680 Speaker 1: Outland is prediction, I'll. 587 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 2: Go to the West. 588 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:31,959 Speaker 1: Though I feel like I'm the only one from the 589 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: you know, the the NBA media pundits that's a little 590 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:39,080 Speaker 1: higher than the on the Blazers than most people. Blazers 591 00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:40,960 Speaker 1: are not getting a lot of love, and when they're 592 00:27:40,960 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: talked about it's like they won't be able to stop 593 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:45,639 Speaker 1: anyone and this will be another wasted year for Damian Lillard. 594 00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:48,000 Speaker 2: Blah blah blah blah blah. And I don't believe that. 595 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,440 Speaker 1: So I'm going to say the Blazers are the surprise 596 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: team finishing in the I'll go top six so they'll 597 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,080 Speaker 1: avoid the play in. I think that's I don't know 598 00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,639 Speaker 1: if that's outlandish, if you want to know outlandish, and 599 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,200 Speaker 1: maybe top five Atlantish would be home court advantage, even 600 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: I don't believe that, But I'll say they actually get 601 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: into the playoffs, So give me top six. 602 00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:04,879 Speaker 3: Wow. 603 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:06,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. And I don't need to. 604 00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Like go over all the things I've said about them 605 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,880 Speaker 1: and why I believe in them, because we talked about 606 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: them in our season preview predictions a couple of times. 607 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: I went on my Blazer's rant that you know, I 608 00:28:14,280 --> 00:28:17,280 Speaker 1: hate betting against a healthy Damian Lillard. I like the 609 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: defensive pieces they have added in Gary Payton, second in 610 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 1: Jeremy Grant, so I just, you know, I think they're 611 00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 1: being overlooked. I really think Damian Lillard is being overlooked, 612 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,760 Speaker 1: and maybe it's because of his age and he just 613 00:28:31,760 --> 00:28:34,440 Speaker 1: didn't play because he had the serious injury there with 614 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:36,040 Speaker 1: the abdomomen but not me. 615 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,520 Speaker 2: So I'm high on the Blazers. Still. Last two healthy 616 00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 2: seasons for Lillard though they were a playing team is 617 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 2: the concern for me. And they're kind of just going 618 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:47,120 Speaker 2: back to a slightly more balanced version of the Blazers 619 00:28:47,120 --> 00:28:49,360 Speaker 2: team that they've had. Honestly, they're kind of like the Bulls. 620 00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:52,040 Speaker 2: You're like, we think you'll probably be okay. That's kind 621 00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:53,720 Speaker 2: of where they settle for me. So I think it's 622 00:28:54,280 --> 00:28:55,880 Speaker 2: you would be a wizard. If they somehow end up 623 00:28:55,880 --> 00:28:57,840 Speaker 2: in the top six, I would be surprised. 624 00:28:58,320 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 3: And I do believe Damian Lillard and a lot of 625 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,120 Speaker 3: it is athletes speak. When you hear a guys say 626 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,600 Speaker 3: it's the best I've ever felt in my career. But 627 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 3: because it was an adductor abdominal sort of issue, it's 628 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 3: it's somewhere in that abdominal one. It's not a knee ankle, 629 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 3: and he took off several months essentially just to get 630 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 3: it right. At thirty two, does he feel his best? 631 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 3: Maybe that's a little crazy, but but I'm buying that's 632 00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:27,680 Speaker 3: that he feels fresh for the first time in his career. 633 00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 2: Read it. 634 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's he should, he should come out balling. He'll 635 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:32,880 Speaker 3: be scoring. 636 00:29:33,000 --> 00:29:35,479 Speaker 2: I'll give everybody an update in case you're curious. 637 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:35,720 Speaker 3: J D. 638 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:36,400 Speaker 2: You had it. 639 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,040 Speaker 1: You had it fixed for a hot second, and then 640 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,840 Speaker 1: you went back over to your station there and clicked 641 00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 1: a button and then suddenly the buzz was back. 642 00:29:44,840 --> 00:29:45,440 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 643 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, something you did over here, thumbs up, and then 644 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: when you went back it was back. 645 00:29:51,200 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 4: So stay under the desk. 646 00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, all right. 647 00:29:56,600 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: Our next question, uh, hey, no dunks. Let's pretend that 648 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: just before the start of this coming NBA season, you 649 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,280 Speaker 1: fall into a coma. You then come out of the 650 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 1: coma just after the NBA Finals, and you realize you 651 00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:11,960 Speaker 1: missed everything. Someone then hands you a tablet and you 652 00:30:12,000 --> 00:30:15,720 Speaker 1: have two choices. You can watch the top fifty dunks 653 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 1: of the season, or you can watch the top fifty assists. 654 00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 2: Of the season. 655 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,600 Speaker 1: You can only pick one. I don't know what's going 656 00:30:23,640 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 1: on with this tablet that you can only watch one 657 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,200 Speaker 1: video on it. But the question is which one are 658 00:30:28,240 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: you going with? I feel like if you put up 659 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,000 Speaker 1: a poll, dunks would win in a landslide, but I 660 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: think assists is the correct answer. This is from Kirk task. 661 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:40,680 Speaker 1: You just woke up from the coma. Here's your tablet, 662 00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,760 Speaker 1: and you're like, well, what happened, Let's see some highlights. 663 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:46,600 Speaker 1: You don't ask how your family's doing it. You don't 664 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 1: ask what's going on here? Yeah, I said, okay, you 665 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: gotta pick. Though, man, I only got the you know, 666 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 1: the data for one video play. 667 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640 Speaker 3: If only Leelis was here, he'd picked the top fifty 668 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 3: three throws of the season. If I'm gonna be with 669 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 3: the people, I hope Trace just put up a poll 670 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 3: on YouTube. It's got to be the dunks. Of course 671 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:08,000 Speaker 3: I love assists. 672 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 2: Of course I do the same. 673 00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:12,640 Speaker 3: But I don't get why. 674 00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: I don't care. 675 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:18,600 Speaker 3: Why would you pick assists over the ducks. The moments 676 00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 3: that you will remember the most. I hope you're not 677 00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:24,800 Speaker 3: in a coma. If you watch the twenty two to 678 00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:28,240 Speaker 3: twenty three season, you're gonna remember Anthony Edwards dunking on Utah, 679 00:31:28,280 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 3: watching Abbie or you know, going back, you know the 680 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,200 Speaker 3: Blake Dunts. Are you really going to remember the assists? Now? 681 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,000 Speaker 3: You're you're gonna remember them, probably misremember them, probably because 682 00:31:38,000 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: you're in a coma, But you're gonna remember, like Wade 683 00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 3: to Lebron. I wasn't even an alley oop with the picture, 684 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,080 Speaker 3: you know, the picture with Wade spreading his wings and 685 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,200 Speaker 3: Lebron over top of him. That wasn't an alley oop. 686 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 3: But you wanted it to be better. You know what, 687 00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 3: what's better than assist? I'll tell you a dunk the 688 00:31:54,760 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 3: jams a guy that yeah, yeah, you gotta go, James. 689 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:02,120 Speaker 1: Okay, Trey, can you can you make the case for 690 00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:03,400 Speaker 1: dimes or does it have to be done? 691 00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 2: Kirk makes a good case for dimes. It could be 692 00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 2: the correct answer because when you're watching assists, they often 693 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 2: lead to dunks. So you're seeing a bunch of dunks 694 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 2: in the top assists, Yeah, usually, but you should pick 695 00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:17,880 Speaker 2: the dunks. It's the signature play in the NBA. Yeah, yeah, 696 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:20,080 Speaker 2: watch those top fifty dunks. That's what people talk about. 697 00:32:20,160 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: Yeah, and I will I'll go with dunks here in this, 698 00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,840 Speaker 1: you know, hypothetical in the pole or whatever, because the 699 00:32:25,880 --> 00:32:28,120 Speaker 1: other part is as much as I love a great assists, 700 00:32:28,440 --> 00:32:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, and like think of Yokich assists or Lebron 701 00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: or Luke over the last couple of years, or even 702 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,880 Speaker 1: some wild card ones. You know, I love always love 703 00:32:34,920 --> 00:32:38,160 Speaker 1: a you know, like a fifty foot like bounce pass 704 00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: that goes between three people. 705 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 2: I love it, Like you know, that's sicko stuff. We 706 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: love that stuff. 707 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,200 Speaker 1: But I will say, when you watch the top fifty assists, 708 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: like the compilation, it should be like really top twenty, 709 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,960 Speaker 1: maybe top ten even, and it's like fifty, you're getting 710 00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: some like somewhat generic dimes. I would say dunks. Even 711 00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:00,640 Speaker 1: the fiftieth best dunk is I guess what I'm saying, 712 00:33:00,680 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: The fiftieth best dunk is going to be better than 713 00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:07,600 Speaker 1: generally the fifteenth best assists of that season. You know, 714 00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,840 Speaker 1: you're dunking on people usually is a big part of it. 715 00:33:09,880 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: So I think it has to be dunks. 716 00:33:12,000 --> 00:33:14,920 Speaker 3: It's fair. Listen, I'm happy with the poll results. 717 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 2: Call it right now. 718 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,040 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's fifty to fifty. 719 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:21,440 Speaker 2: Oh wow, fifty two now for top fifty dunks. 720 00:33:21,480 --> 00:33:24,560 Speaker 3: Uh oh here yeah, so it's pretty close. And I 721 00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,200 Speaker 3: say I'm happy with it because, as Eric Cay says 722 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:30,520 Speaker 3: here in the stream, team real sickos love assists. Our 723 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,360 Speaker 3: fans are sickos. Yeah, they love the basketball. I like great. 724 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 3: I do agree the sickos are you get into the assists. 725 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:41,400 Speaker 3: You know why because everybody likes dunks, and then a 726 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:44,280 Speaker 3: lot of people like assists, but more people like dunks. 727 00:33:44,920 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 3: So you're sick. Oh and that's cool. That's cool, there's 728 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,160 Speaker 3: nothing wrong with that. I'm going to enjoy the jokic 729 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:52,800 Speaker 3: assist real from this year. It's going to be ridiculous. 730 00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:56,520 Speaker 3: Nice with guys like Bruce Brown running around cutting everywhere 731 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 3: and Jamal Murray back. Yeah, that reel is going to 732 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 3: be ridiculous. The dunkrall will be good too. 733 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: A part of this, too, is not all of them. 734 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,680 Speaker 1: I want to make that very clear, because some of 735 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:09,960 Speaker 1: these throws that they make, you know, just pinpoint passes, 736 00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,880 Speaker 1: and they're obviously just like they're giants, so they can 737 00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: do stuff that we can't even do because we're normal 738 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 1: sized humans. But some of the passes you can do, 739 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:19,919 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like you can throw 740 00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: a similar dime in a pickup run and it's like 741 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,319 Speaker 1: that's amazing. Like you know, I'm talking like you know, 742 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: over the heads, around the back stuff like that, between traffic. 743 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:31,040 Speaker 1: You ain't doing something. You ain't doing these dunks. You know, 744 00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,600 Speaker 1: there's a handful maybe in the stream team that can, 745 00:34:33,680 --> 00:34:36,200 Speaker 1: but most of us are not doing these dunks on 746 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,839 Speaker 1: other guys that are six out at six eight. So 747 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: that's a part three too. I agree there's that, but 748 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 1: good question there, Kirk Kirk Gibson sent that. 749 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 3: Any thanks Kirk. 750 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 2: You're watching home runs or outfield assists, Kirk Gibson, this is. 751 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 3: An argument for outfield the cysts. They're very rare. People 752 00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: in the stream team trying to equate that angle that 753 00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 3: assists are extremely rare. No, they're not. 754 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:08,320 Speaker 1: There's like, whatever he play well, I mean sick highlight this. 755 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, anyway, next one here, it comes from Josh 756 00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600 Speaker 3: Mantis on Twitter. A specific question about a player. How 757 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,640 Speaker 3: good would og and Enobi be if he didn't have 758 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,319 Speaker 3: such bad luck with injuries? I feel like every time 759 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,759 Speaker 3: he gets on a run, he gets hurt. Trey, you're right. 760 00:35:24,800 --> 00:35:26,480 Speaker 3: We talk about the raptors a lot, I guess and 761 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,960 Speaker 3: specific Ogi Annobi questions skeets. You want this one? 762 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,239 Speaker 1: I thought this was interesting because we just did in 763 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: our last season preview make or Break season for players, 764 00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: and they went over some stars like Anthony Davis and 765 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 1: some other players that are like are they like DeAndre 766 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: Hunter was my pick? 767 00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 2: Like are they a really really good player? 768 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,799 Speaker 1: Can they stay on the floor, you know, and all that. 769 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: I think OG could have been maybe on that list. Again, 770 00:35:49,920 --> 00:35:51,680 Speaker 1: it's a bit of a stretch for making break because 771 00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: even Hunter it's gonna have a long NBA career, But 772 00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:55,800 Speaker 1: it's like how good are you and can you play? 773 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,799 Speaker 1: And so there's some similarities there. I'm just like trying 774 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: to think, think what OG's ceiling is. 775 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's where is it? 776 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:04,720 Speaker 1: Where does he top out as a player? 777 00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 3: Well, I think Josh Mantis and a lot of the 778 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,200 Speaker 3: Raptors fan base think that he is Pascal Siakam part 779 00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 3: deu and that's that's it. It's a reach. He's not 780 00:36:14,520 --> 00:36:16,879 Speaker 3: doing it. He's not doing it though you break down 781 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 3: the numbers when he's healthy in isolation, he just doesn't 782 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 3: have that type of game. He can't break guys down. 783 00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 3: It's just not him. He needs lanes, he needs to 784 00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:28,439 Speaker 3: be set up. He's not going to break guys down. 785 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 1: Done and done, but the perfect when healthy, third or 786 00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,200 Speaker 1: fourth best. 787 00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,920 Speaker 3: Player, you're amazing, amazing. But people see the Pascal jump, 788 00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,359 Speaker 3: a guy who wasn't a high pick, and they want 789 00:36:39,400 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 3: O G to be in that same light. He's a 790 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,160 Speaker 3: different guy. He's obviously gotten hurt, but I don't think 791 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,040 Speaker 3: that really has It's it's, you know, interrupted his flow, 792 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,359 Speaker 3: but I don't think it's really changed his game by 793 00:36:49,960 --> 00:36:53,399 Speaker 3: or hindered his game by any means. The Raptors showing 794 00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 3: Will who did a good job. When I was listening 795 00:36:55,520 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 3: to hours and hours of summer podcasting, they'd go on 796 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:02,439 Speaker 3: four hour banter run when they would just chat about Og. 797 00:37:02,880 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: The part of it was og An and Obi and 798 00:37:04,920 --> 00:37:08,839 Speaker 3: his growth. Like Josh, people wondering where the heck it's going, 799 00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:11,520 Speaker 3: and Will did a good job of breaking down the 800 00:37:11,560 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 3: isolation numbers. And we were on a Raptor Show podcast. 801 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 3: Somebody actually said, Hey, what the heck you guys were 802 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 3: on a podcast, Trey test. You're on the Raptors Show. 803 00:37:20,040 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 3: Why don't you tell everybody? I guess we didn't tell 804 00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,440 Speaker 3: people on the pod. True, so we got to do. 805 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:27,839 Speaker 3: We gotta be better at that, you know, we got 806 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:28,200 Speaker 3: to be better. 807 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 2: We retwaited it. Turn on your retweets, turn on your rts, yeah, 808 00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,399 Speaker 2: turn on your artas Anyways, as a non Raptors guy, 809 00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 2: what's what's OG's ceiling? 810 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,279 Speaker 3: You think? 811 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,160 Speaker 2: I think he's at it. I think he's a really, 812 00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,439 Speaker 2: really good starter, and I think if you want og 813 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 2: And Andoby to be more, it's taken away from Fred 814 00:37:45,080 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 2: van Vleet and Pascal Siakam, which is probably a problem 815 00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:50,320 Speaker 2: for the Raptors at this point. His last healthy season 816 00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: really was nineteen twenty, played sixty nine out of seventy 817 00:37:52,640 --> 00:37:54,879 Speaker 2: two games. Very nice. He had to jump his next 818 00:37:54,880 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 2: season his fourth year, but he's missed thirty or more 819 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 2: games in each of those two seasons. He's kept it's 820 00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 2: twenty percent usage, so he's doing his part out there, 821 00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:05,160 Speaker 2: one fifth of the team seventeen points per game. He 822 00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,480 Speaker 2: plays quality defense. I'm with Tass and I'm with the 823 00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:10,839 Speaker 2: Raptors show. He's not a great off the dribble player, 824 00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 2: but he's a solid catch and shoot three pointer guy 825 00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 2: and also can attack if the defense has already bent 826 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,319 Speaker 2: his way. But he just doesn't seem to have like 827 00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:20,480 Speaker 2: a smooth dribble package. It's a little bit robotic out there. 828 00:38:21,080 --> 00:38:24,200 Speaker 2: But he's a perfect third option on a team because 829 00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,560 Speaker 2: he can do those things when the court is bent 830 00:38:27,600 --> 00:38:30,040 Speaker 2: the way that he needs it to be needs it 831 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 2: to be bent. So yeah, I mean, maybe as van 832 00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,280 Speaker 2: Vliet and Siakam get a little bit older and relinquished 833 00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:38,200 Speaker 2: some of the responsibility from the Raptors. He steps up 834 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:40,600 Speaker 2: a little bit more, but I think he's kind of 835 00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:41,680 Speaker 2: what he is right now. 836 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree. If he steps up into that role, 837 00:38:44,200 --> 00:38:46,799 Speaker 3: which he did at times last year, it doesn't end 838 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:48,480 Speaker 3: all that well. That's why his numbers I think were 839 00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:49,479 Speaker 3: down last year. 840 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:52,239 Speaker 2: You mean taking on a larger wall. 841 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 3: He's a complimentary guy, right, and that's that's fine. 842 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,120 Speaker 1: His efficiency started to dip once he was asked to 843 00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:03,920 Speaker 1: do more. I think Eric Kareen was writing his predictions 844 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 1: for the Athletic and he actually wonders if Gary Trent 845 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 1: Junior could be a potential guy moved at the trade 846 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,920 Speaker 1: deadline when you're looking at the books for the Raptors, 847 00:39:13,120 --> 00:39:16,400 Speaker 1: and I think og could be as well. And that 848 00:39:16,520 --> 00:39:19,200 Speaker 1: usage percentage that you said was like whatever twenty twenty one, 849 00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 1: is that going to be the same this year with 850 00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,080 Speaker 1: Barnes taking on more of a role And you know 851 00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: Siakam his even usage percentage was down over the last 852 00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: little bit compared to his championship run. There, Gary Trent 853 00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:33,719 Speaker 1: Junior could take on a bigger role Chiua even they 854 00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:35,759 Speaker 1: may run stuff more through. I just wonder if that 855 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,520 Speaker 1: does go down and maybe that's a good thing though 856 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: for OG. Seriously, like if he's happy with that. 857 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,000 Speaker 3: If he's happy with yeah, because there have been rumblings 858 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:43,840 Speaker 3: that he wasn't happy with that. 859 00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, they shot that down, but you're. 860 00:39:45,160 --> 00:39:48,359 Speaker 3: Right, yeah, you know, who knows what's going on behind 861 00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 3: the scenes. But yeah, Pascal just being healthy to start 862 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 3: the season two limits what OG can do. And yeah, 863 00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,720 Speaker 3: mister Scottie Barnes, that's that's a big factor. 864 00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,040 Speaker 1: That's the big one, and which is why I'm almost 865 00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: more like convinced if the Raptors were to move one 866 00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,360 Speaker 1: of those two, Gary Trent Junior or Og, like it 867 00:40:05,360 --> 00:40:08,720 Speaker 1: feels like your your your bases are covered more moving 868 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:10,680 Speaker 1: Og because you have Scottie Barnes could. 869 00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:12,480 Speaker 2: Have been that role. Yeah, my thinking, And. 870 00:40:12,520 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: They really the Raptors desperately need shooting and Gary Trent 871 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,440 Speaker 1: Junior is one of their best shooters. 872 00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 3: So yeah, he's not six', nine so you move on from. 873 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,080 Speaker 3: Him everybody else is there's a prototype there with The, 874 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,000 Speaker 3: raptors BUT i think it's Still. Komba, YEAH i think 875 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 3: they they're all still happy to play together and this 876 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 3: is going to be a fifty win team. 877 00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:31,560 Speaker 1: Baby, yeah people start to become unhappy with the roles 878 00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: when the el start piling up and then you're starting 879 00:40:34,080 --> 00:40:36,359 Speaker 1: and then you're, like, hey what IF i had more 880 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:39,440 Speaker 1: of the ball or more, responsibility we wouldn't be losing these. 881 00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:41,880 Speaker 1: Games that's What that's just natural. Reaction but if you're, 882 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: winning then everyone's basically on. Board good, question They're, Josh great, Question. 883 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:49,919 Speaker 1: Josh none of us PICKED og form MI ip, though 884 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,840 Speaker 1: which was. Good we've learned because. 885 00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:52,879 Speaker 2: That WAS i had two years. 886 00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:55,200 Speaker 1: Ago, yeah, yeah there was a there was a most 887 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,040 Speaker 1: improved FOR. Og it felt like three years. RUNNING i 888 00:40:58,080 --> 00:40:59,040 Speaker 1: don't Think i've seen many this. 889 00:40:59,120 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 2: YEAR i picked him one year specifically because he did 890 00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:04,800 Speaker 2: like between the legs bop pop pop pop. Dribble it 891 00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:06,680 Speaker 2: looked exactly Like Kawhi. LEONARD i was, like, well this 892 00:41:06,680 --> 00:41:09,400 Speaker 2: guy's the next one. Clip that's all it. 893 00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:13,319 Speaker 1: TOOK i guess if you came out of a, coma 894 00:41:13,320 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: you'd want to see the dribble. 895 00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:19,680 Speaker 2: Packages top fifty between the legs, dribbled go, okay next? 896 00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:20,480 Speaker 2: One how do you? 897 00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,759 Speaker 1: Know? DUNKERS i was listening to the newly Released Red 898 00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 1: Hot Chili peppers album this. 899 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:26,680 Speaker 2: Week there's a new Album thought AND i only knew. 900 00:41:26,680 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: That my Buddy grish just told me what two records 901 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,920 Speaker 1: in Two, yeah they must have just done a ton 902 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:35,960 Speaker 1: of recordings and they're like a just split it into two. 903 00:41:35,960 --> 00:41:38,920 Speaker 2: Albums, Anyway Unlimited love And return of The Dream. 904 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:46,440 Speaker 1: Cane so, anyway that dropped and this, Person, jacob was 905 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 1: listening to it in between our season, previews And jacob 906 00:41:49,680 --> 00:41:53,040 Speaker 1: began to draw parallels BETWEEN nba teams and musical. Acts 907 00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: the best ONE i could come up with was The 908 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,239 Speaker 1: Rolling stones and The. Lakers certainly both are past their, 909 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:00,680 Speaker 1: primes but you would still jump with the chance to 910 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:03,880 Speaker 1: Watch lebron Slash mick while you. Can would love to 911 00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,120 Speaker 1: hear you, guys thoughts on This jack start my eighth 912 00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:11,279 Speaker 1: year of listening to the. Podcast jacob From Southern illinois 913 00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:15,000 Speaker 1: your neck of The, Woods they're, well you're. 914 00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 2: State, YEAH i mean is The Southern Illinois university is 915 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 2: just the south part of the. Stage shout out To. 916 00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,080 Speaker 2: DANVILLE i got a good answer for this, one. Though 917 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:27,520 Speaker 2: The celtics Are Vampire weekend, because, like The celtics are 918 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:30,000 Speaker 2: a young, team but they've been around for a, while 919 00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,560 Speaker 2: AND i feel like that's kind of the same case 920 00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 2: for A Vampire, Weekend they'll still have a very dark, 921 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:36,839 Speaker 2: hair not a lot of grays on like in this. 922 00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:42,160 Speaker 2: Studio just like The, celtics everything The Vampire weekend does 923 00:42:42,239 --> 00:42:44,720 Speaker 2: is at least, Good like they put out four quality. 924 00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:47,720 Speaker 2: Records they hail from The, northeast and both The celtics 925 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 2: And Vampire weekend have a ton of white. FANS i 926 00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:55,400 Speaker 2: guess yeah MOSTLY i would say, Probably, Okay celtics Are Vampire. 927 00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 3: Weekend, OKAY i want to a different direction with The. 928 00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:02,120 Speaker 3: Celtics The celtics are The OJ's because The jays make 929 00:43:02,200 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 3: me say. Oh, also The knicks Are mumford And sons 930 00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:11,280 Speaker 3: because there's a tampering investigation into Whether Rick brunson's Presence 931 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:14,279 Speaker 3: Scott Jalen brunson. There but The knicks have Kept mumford 932 00:43:14,320 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 3: And sons about the. Situation and The Utah, jazz, yes 933 00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:28,799 Speaker 3: and The utah Level, yeah, yeah this one's not as. 934 00:43:28,840 --> 00:43:31,560 Speaker 3: Good The Utah jazz Are that one was. Good this 935 00:43:31,600 --> 00:43:33,600 Speaker 3: one's not as. Good The Utah jazz Are Steely dan 936 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,279 Speaker 3: Because Danny aingel is so hard to deal, with they 937 00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 3: call Him Steely. Dan, yeah he's a tough. Cracker you 938 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 3: just wanted to fire The, yeah, yeah before the seat 939 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:46,320 Speaker 3: she went deeper with the. 940 00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:49,239 Speaker 2: Vamp yeah all, right well good. 941 00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:53,279 Speaker 1: Stuff somebody said what just happened in The stream team 942 00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:54,600 Speaker 1: and blew some people's minds. 943 00:43:54,640 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 3: There, yeah it's been a. 944 00:43:56,440 --> 00:44:00,359 Speaker 1: While get your comparisons in though musical acts to UH nba, 945 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,680 Speaker 1: team so you can either get punny with it like 946 00:44:02,760 --> 00:44:06,399 Speaker 1: tass or more of like the parallels that trade drew 947 00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,520 Speaker 1: there and OUR i guess our Listener jacob sent in you. 948 00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,480 Speaker 3: Know what, question what's good about the stream? Team sometimes 949 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,840 Speaker 3: it feels like there's a live studio audience Because Robert 950 00:44:15,840 --> 00:44:22,680 Speaker 3: herrero just said. Respect that felt. GOOD i feel. Alive 951 00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,880 Speaker 3: getting live stream boot was for. Me it wasn't for. 952 00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,080 Speaker 2: You you got to get a, response that's what you're. Saying any, 953 00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,080 Speaker 2: responses you're like a, rat like a. Wrestler got to 954 00:44:32,080 --> 00:44:33,160 Speaker 2: get that. Heat that's. 955 00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:34,120 Speaker 3: Fair when they. 956 00:44:34,040 --> 00:44:36,359 Speaker 1: Sit there and don't do, anything you don't want, That, 957 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,080 Speaker 1: no they want you want them cheering, you. 958 00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:44,400 Speaker 3: Like Renee piquette coming Out toronto, crowd big pop For, 959 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:47,360 Speaker 3: Renee no More Renee, young get. 960 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:50,320 Speaker 2: Yeah That canadian. 961 00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:52,799 Speaker 1: Name all, right we gotta take one more break when 962 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: we come, back a few more questions on the. Beach 963 00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,960 Speaker 1: some great responses to trying to find parallels BETWEEN nba. 964 00:44:59,800 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 3: T what do you guess that's? Hard that's a hard. 965 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:04,560 Speaker 1: One, well it's the stream team coming through. Here greg, 966 00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 1: says okayc Are. Nickelback they're full Of canadians and people 967 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:10,759 Speaker 1: hate on them even though they're not that. 968 00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,239 Speaker 3: Bad all, Right but THEN i See Jamario. Moonnight The 969 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:15,640 Speaker 3: pacers are. Nickelb yeah. 970 00:45:15,719 --> 00:45:20,439 Speaker 1: Wow but somebody else Said i'm trying to find who said. 971 00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: It but, uh couldn't you See presty saying. 972 00:45:23,719 --> 00:45:25,400 Speaker 2: Look at this graph. 973 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,200 Speaker 1: Like that's pretty. Good shout out who ever said. THAT 974 00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:30,640 Speaker 1: i can't find where the heck it? 975 00:45:30,760 --> 00:45:31,759 Speaker 2: Is what else we got? 976 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:35,040 Speaker 1: Here The pistons Are. Nirvana there's a lot of just 977 00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:38,240 Speaker 1: people saying things and not giving their. Reasoning, yeah, okay 978 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:38,759 Speaker 1: you need a. 979 00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,960 Speaker 2: Reason Yeah, NO i like the ones that just say 980 00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:43,880 Speaker 2: it and then they're, like, nah what? 981 00:45:44,040 --> 00:45:49,520 Speaker 1: Else Dallas mavericks Are Cindy. LAUPER i don't know. 982 00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:49,759 Speaker 3: Why. 983 00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:58,719 Speaker 2: Okay the twenty twenty One lakers are The Traveling. WILLBERRY'S i, 984 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,800 Speaker 2: MEAN i guess they got together a lot of famous 985 00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:06,080 Speaker 2: musicians or famous basketball, players but The Traveling willberry's had some. 986 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,880 Speaker 2: BANGERS i don't know if The lakers had any BANGERS lt. Season, 987 00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:09,319 Speaker 2: yeah and. 988 00:46:09,400 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: Then The bulls Are blink one eighty two because they're, 989 00:46:11,680 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 1: back Says Belinda. 990 00:46:13,120 --> 00:46:17,719 Speaker 2: Jane you guys were talking about it ON Uh is this? 991 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:20,440 Speaker 2: GOOD i? Heard, Yeah and it was actually nice That 992 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:22,920 Speaker 2: matt sent, in, like you, know five songs that we 993 00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:25,040 Speaker 2: were going to have to, choose which was his? Favorite 994 00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,680 Speaker 2: because there are five Good blink one eighty two. Songs 995 00:46:27,719 --> 00:46:31,400 Speaker 2: it was nice to hear him. Again. YEP i know That. 996 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 4: Wilbury's joke is that they're, old, right they're all stars 997 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:38,240 Speaker 4: and they're super super. 998 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 2: Old yeah that's. True, yeah, Yeah, okay a fair. COMPARISON 999 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 2: i Guess i'm just SAYING i thought that Traveling willberry's 1000 00:46:45,960 --> 00:46:49,239 Speaker 2: experiment went better than The. Lakers oh, yeah that's very. 1001 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: True stephan says The heat are royal. Blood they're doing 1002 00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: a lot with just two. Instruments, OKAY i WISH i 1003 00:46:56,600 --> 00:47:00,440 Speaker 1: understood the, reference but got a good. 1004 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,279 Speaker 4: Reason it's a two it's a two man. 1005 00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:07,080 Speaker 2: Group oh, okay, okay the two man group is? 1006 00:47:07,120 --> 00:47:08,360 Speaker 3: Anyone the Blue man group. 1007 00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,439 Speaker 2: Always banging on trash? Cans who's? 1008 00:47:12,440 --> 00:47:12,480 Speaker 3: That? 1009 00:47:12,600 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 2: Oh Houston? 1010 00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:18,000 Speaker 3: Astros nice, OKAY i mean they're. Quiet maybe they're The 1011 00:47:18,040 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 3: clippers quite as. 1012 00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 2: Quiet let's go a couple more before we wrap this 1013 00:47:23,080 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 2: bad boy. 1014 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:26,560 Speaker 3: Up. YO i asked my Buddy, grant a long time 1015 00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:28,560 Speaker 3: No dunks, fan this the other, day but got no. 1016 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:33,160 Speaker 3: RESPONSE i Got glenn Big Dog robinson as poor man's 1017 00:47:33,200 --> 00:47:38,280 Speaker 3: mellow And Kevin durant as rich man's. Mellow grant supposed 1018 00:47:38,280 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 3: to see. 1019 00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:41,640 Speaker 2: That, yeah everybody's a mellow. 1020 00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:44,640 Speaker 3: Somehow i'm feeling, You. Grant what are you gonna do with? 1021 00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:48,880 Speaker 3: That what are you gonna do with that? Text? Uh, Sure? Bobby? 1022 00:47:49,160 --> 00:47:53,359 Speaker 3: Anyway uh all scoring, forwards, athleticism, production and accomplishments level 1023 00:47:53,440 --> 00:47:56,200 Speaker 3: up at each. Iteration what's another poor, man middle class, 1024 00:47:56,280 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 3: man rich man triumvirate that you think? About? That from The? 1025 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:05,880 Speaker 3: Jing according To Bobby, Nanjing, china thank You bobby for 1026 00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,040 Speaker 3: sending that baby. In so you got a poor, man 1027 00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:09,640 Speaker 3: you got a middle class man and a rich, man, 1028 00:48:09,880 --> 00:48:10,440 Speaker 3: Right and so he. 1029 00:48:10,560 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: Told his Buddy grant that it's it goes Big Dog 1030 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,279 Speaker 1: Glenn robinson to. Mellow To Kevin, durant that is your. 1031 00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:18,879 Speaker 1: Progression that makes. 1032 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:20,080 Speaker 2: Sense, YEAH i Mean. 1033 00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:23,680 Speaker 3: Big dog could have been, better but he wasn't that's. 1034 00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:27,759 Speaker 1: Fair, actually, yeah, yeah it's definitely fair to, Say, NATE 1035 00:48:27,960 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 1: i Guess Glenn robinson was a poor man's. 1036 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 2: Mellow i'm not upset with. That you. 1037 00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: Know i've got Three i've got three, names And i'm 1038 00:48:36,239 --> 00:48:38,440 Speaker 1: struggling to put them in the. ORDER i Think trey 1039 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,680 Speaker 1: might have an opinion on. This SO i feel LIKE 1040 00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 1: i have somewhere here a poor, man a middle, man 1041 00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: and a rich. Man, okay the three, Names i'm just throwing. 1042 00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: Them i'll throw him in alphabetical. Order last, Name Penny, 1043 00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:51,960 Speaker 1: Hardaway john Rant Derreck. 1044 00:48:52,080 --> 00:48:56,680 Speaker 2: Rose that's a tough. Call that's. 1045 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,520 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe this isn't a good. Answer MAYBE i. Haven't 1046 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: MAYBE i don't have a poor man of THE i don't. 1047 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: KNOW i MEAN i could throw that at the stream team. 1048 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: Too what's the order there are pouring? 1049 00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:07,200 Speaker 2: Out anyone young D rose of? 1050 00:49:07,239 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: Course and Then john Morantr John, morant who's the rich 1051 00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:11,160 Speaker 1: man of the. 1052 00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,719 Speaker 2: Group, well if you're only counting when they were at their, 1053 00:49:13,719 --> 00:49:16,879 Speaker 2: primes it's there got to Be. Rose, YEAH i would 1054 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:22,600 Speaker 2: go Probably Penny Jaw, rose with the future considerations That 1055 00:49:22,920 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 2: rose and jab will. Switch this is WHAT i. Think 1056 00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,759 Speaker 2: SO i actually would Have. Rose that's my. 1057 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:29,840 Speaker 1: Thinking rose will be my middle man Because i'm Projecting 1058 00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,640 Speaker 1: Jah morant's, career and Then penny will be the poor 1059 00:49:32,719 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 1: man's and a lot of it because of. 1060 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,719 Speaker 2: Injury but, yeah there you. Go it's. 1061 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,080 Speaker 3: Fair, okay you gotta Put penny in the poor man role, 1062 00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 3: forfortunately just because of. Injuries SO i threw My trambert 1063 00:49:44,680 --> 00:49:47,600 Speaker 3: together as. Well my poor man Is Justice, winslow my 1064 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:51,680 Speaker 3: middle class man Is Andrea, goodala and my rich man 1065 00:49:51,800 --> 00:49:52,280 Speaker 3: Is Scottie. 1066 00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 2: Pippen, okay all, right all, right, okay. 1067 00:49:56,320 --> 00:49:59,960 Speaker 3: Uh, YEAH i think in a different. World just As 1068 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 3: wenslow is not, done he's not DO i will say 1069 00:50:02,760 --> 00:50:07,560 Speaker 3: some very poor man's, yeah but it's a poor. Man it's. 1070 00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:10,040 Speaker 3: Clear it's clear he's the poor. Man but he plays 1071 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,840 Speaker 3: the same. Game uh and He, YEAH i still have. 1072 00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:19,720 Speaker 3: Hope but you, know Uh igodala And pippin it's similar 1073 00:50:19,840 --> 00:50:22,640 Speaker 3: like If agodela stayed in that that more of a 1074 00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:25,080 Speaker 3: one to two role like he had In, philadelphia maybe 1075 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:27,800 Speaker 3: could have scored more Like scotty. Did but, UH i 1076 00:50:27,880 --> 00:50:32,960 Speaker 3: actually watched an interview Between scotti And igodala because there 1077 00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:35,160 Speaker 3: have been a lot of comparisons between the, two and 1078 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:38,440 Speaker 3: it was AN espn interview Where scotty, said you remind 1079 00:50:38,560 --> 00:50:40,880 Speaker 3: me of me when you were With philadelphia more so 1080 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,759 Speaker 3: than With Golden state because you're doing some scoring more 1081 00:50:44,080 --> 00:50:47,000 Speaker 3: And igodala, said What trade just said about ogn And 1082 00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,200 Speaker 3: obi and what he picked him for most. Improved andre, 1083 00:50:49,560 --> 00:50:52,279 Speaker 3: SAID i got more of that d like left to right, 1084 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,480 Speaker 3: dribbles more of that package than you. Did you, know 1085 00:50:54,560 --> 00:50:57,800 Speaker 3: you're straight straight to the rim. Guy but, yeah that's 1086 00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:01,320 Speaker 3: my my poor, class middle class rich. Man you, KNOW 1087 00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:03,120 Speaker 3: i don't know that it's. Good it's interesting because The 1088 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,879 Speaker 3: goodella could be A hall Of famer in that middle class. Role, yeah, 1089 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:10,560 Speaker 3: yeah But pippens more of a rich Man's hall Of. 1090 00:51:10,640 --> 00:51:12,920 Speaker 2: Famer, okay, okay do you have one? Try. Yeah the 1091 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:15,839 Speaker 2: three Players i've stolen the most from my, Game Brad 1092 00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:18,960 Speaker 2: miller is a poor Man's Pawgasal Nikola jokich is a 1093 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,759 Speaker 2: rich Man's. Palgasaw and they're all, like you, know a 1094 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,520 Speaker 2: tall guy who's gonna shoot a three. Pointer Brad miller 1095 00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,040 Speaker 2: would only do it from the top of the. Key 1096 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:28,839 Speaker 2: he could only throw a back door bounce. Pass then 1097 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:31,120 Speaker 2: we got To. Pagasaw he can hit a three from 1098 00:51:31,160 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 2: also the wing and maybe handle the ball bringing it 1099 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 2: up the. Court and then of course we Have Nikola, 1100 00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:37,480 Speaker 2: jokich who is the best offensive big man that we've, 1101 00:51:37,520 --> 00:51:40,799 Speaker 2: seen doing crazy moves out, there great handles and at 1102 00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:42,879 Speaker 2: the top of the fifty best assist every single. Year 1103 00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 2: oh he is for. Sure those are all great. 1104 00:51:45,000 --> 00:51:47,760 Speaker 1: Guys and also a couple of, people multiple people Saying 1105 00:51:48,320 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 1: Seth curry To Del curry To Steph, curry The curry 1106 00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: Iteration Seth curry is a poor Man's Del curry And 1107 00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,960 Speaker 1: Steph curry he is a rich. Man, yeah wild that 1108 00:52:03,080 --> 00:52:06,000 Speaker 1: the dad's in the. Middle if you believe that fun 1109 00:52:06,040 --> 00:52:09,160 Speaker 1: stuff from the stream, Team all, right final one, HERE i, believe, 1110 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:09,759 Speaker 1: NO i? 1111 00:52:09,840 --> 00:52:10,680 Speaker 2: No we got two? More why? 1112 00:52:10,719 --> 00:52:17,279 Speaker 1: Not? Hey finger, rollers pickle, pizza pickle, pasta pickle, nachos 1113 00:52:17,840 --> 00:52:21,879 Speaker 1: deep fried, pickles and pickleball are all huge hits here 1114 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:25,319 Speaker 1: In Nova. Scotia if you haven't tried each of, THESE 1115 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:27,080 Speaker 1: i suggest you. Do thanks for the laughs in THE 1116 00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:30,920 Speaker 1: nba Content Jab step two hard, dribbles finger, roll it's FROM. 1117 00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: E fletcher letting us know that they're up In Nova. 1118 00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:39,520 Speaker 2: Scotia they're their. Team pickle pickle crap pickle PIZZA i would. Do, 1119 00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,480 Speaker 2: yeah it sounds a little. Weird definitely soon try. Weird 1120 00:52:42,520 --> 00:52:44,320 Speaker 2: but you like like a pickled hollowpen you want a, 1121 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,360 Speaker 2: pizza pretty, good it's gonna be a little bit. Different 1122 00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 2: pickle pasta sounds that seems like the craziest ask to. 1123 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 2: Me i've had a deep ride. Pickle they're, GOOD i will, 1124 00:52:53,080 --> 00:52:54,880 Speaker 2: say a little. UNDERWHELMING i always think they're gonna be 1125 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:57,520 Speaker 2: a little bit, better but they're. Fine pickle nachos, okay 1126 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,680 Speaker 2: same as like throwing a halopene on a piece of. 1127 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:05,359 Speaker 2: Pizza but pickle pasta seems very pickle. Forward you haven't 1128 00:53:05,360 --> 00:53:05,840 Speaker 2: tried any of? 1129 00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:10,279 Speaker 3: These, No, no deep well deep fried. Pickles, no not 1130 00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:12,960 Speaker 3: like a full deep fried pickle from a country. FAIR 1131 00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:19,800 Speaker 3: a fried slice. Pickle isn't that a fair? Thing? You 1132 00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,040 Speaker 3: they have it in? Pubs? 1133 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:23,680 Speaker 2: REALLY i was just up there this. 1134 00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:24,880 Speaker 3: Summer the. 1135 00:53:24,960 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 4: Pasta are they talking like making the pasta like zucchini? 1136 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 3: Pasta you? Know like, PROBABLY i don't. KNOW i think 1137 00:53:37,280 --> 00:53:40,320 Speaker 3: when it's made into pasta that it wouldn't be that 1138 00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,080 Speaker 3: pickle forward like. That, no it's like what part of 1139 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:48,520 Speaker 3: the pickle, gets, yeah gets you, know sliced into that 1140 00:53:48,719 --> 00:53:51,600 Speaker 3: gets peeled into. THAT i don't. Know but a, zucchini 1141 00:53:51,640 --> 00:53:53,640 Speaker 3: you can make it happen because of its. Firmness so 1142 00:53:53,760 --> 00:53:55,879 Speaker 3: what is the pickle? PASTA i don't. 1143 00:53:55,880 --> 00:53:59,719 Speaker 2: KNOW i googled pickle, pasta and the main recipes that 1144 00:53:59,760 --> 00:54:03,720 Speaker 2: are being up Her dyll pickle pasta, salad which is probably. 1145 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 2: Good it's kind of like a law a little. Bit, yeah, 1146 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,759 Speaker 2: yeah that's probably what you. Means, YEAH i HATE i 1147 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:14,359 Speaker 2: hate hotile hot cold. 1148 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:20,239 Speaker 1: Pasta i'm not a fan of really dislike. It it's it's, 1149 00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:26,200 Speaker 1: texture it's the. Cold BUT jd big. NEWS i tried 1150 00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:29,040 Speaker 1: pickleball On friday for the first. 1151 00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:29,919 Speaker 3: TIME i Told. 1152 00:54:30,000 --> 00:54:32,360 Speaker 4: Rachel ACTUALLY i saw it in the slack and she 1153 00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:35,640 Speaker 4: was more excited Than i've ever seen her about. 1154 00:54:35,680 --> 00:54:36,520 Speaker 2: Anything your wife was. 1155 00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 4: EXCITED i was, playing, yeah because because it's another person 1156 00:54:40,400 --> 00:54:43,760 Speaker 4: in her network of people that she could play pickleball. 1157 00:54:43,800 --> 00:54:47,680 Speaker 4: With she's she's legit. Obsessed now really, Yeah, yeah we're 1158 00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,680 Speaker 4: going for a pickleball lesson tomorrow morning lessons she's. Got, 1159 00:54:51,840 --> 00:54:53,759 Speaker 4: yeah we're getting again in the, lesson and THEN i 1160 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 4: come back here to do the show and she's going 1161 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 4: to play pickleball at the wife for an hour, yeah, 1162 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:00,320 Speaker 4: so oh it. 1163 00:55:00,480 --> 00:55:01,400 Speaker 2: WAS i enjoyed. 1164 00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:01,759 Speaker 3: It it's. 1165 00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,520 Speaker 1: Fun, YEAH i need to play a couple more times 1166 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:06,759 Speaker 1: BEFORE i give you guys the full. Report but, uh you, 1167 00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,120 Speaker 1: KNOW i was actually thrown into the deep. END i 1168 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 1: was playing with people that were pretty damn. 1169 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:12,600 Speaker 2: Good. 1170 00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:15,400 Speaker 1: Yeah so it was a steep learning, curve but you, 1171 00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,840 Speaker 1: know trying to hang a like hang out. THERE i 1172 00:55:18,880 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 1: could at least serve and get it. Back but, man 1173 00:55:21,440 --> 00:55:22,440 Speaker 1: you got to keep your feet out of the. 1174 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:24,080 Speaker 4: Kitchen, yeah gotta keep it out of the. 1175 00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:25,080 Speaker 3: Kitchen stay out of the. 1176 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:27,960 Speaker 2: Kitchen it's. Tough you want to go to the. 1177 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:30,359 Speaker 1: Net you gotta go to the, net but you can't 1178 00:55:30,360 --> 00:55:31,759 Speaker 1: get too. Close you can't Get but then when the 1179 00:55:31,800 --> 00:55:33,439 Speaker 1: ball goes in the, kitchen you can go in the. Kitchen, 1180 00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:34,680 Speaker 1: oh then you gotta get out of the. 1181 00:55:34,760 --> 00:55:35,719 Speaker 2: Kitchen, yeah very. 1182 00:55:35,760 --> 00:55:39,759 Speaker 4: Confused did you see the clip Of dirk nailing a pickleball. Shot, 1183 00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:42,440 Speaker 4: No i'm not sure what he. DID i saw it 1184 00:55:42,520 --> 00:55:44,840 Speaker 4: in passing AND i was, like, god, Damn, dirk like 1185 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 4: you already look big on pickleball, court but he just looked. 1186 00:55:49,719 --> 00:55:51,840 Speaker 4: Massive AND i think he was playing with his brother or, 1187 00:55:51,920 --> 00:55:52,799 Speaker 4: something or like. 1188 00:55:52,880 --> 00:55:54,360 Speaker 2: The reach they would Have, oh my. 1189 00:55:54,480 --> 00:55:57,480 Speaker 4: God see, YEAH i was like, Crazy So i'm not 1190 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,440 Speaker 4: Surprised lebron but a team all. 1191 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:01,520 Speaker 2: Right so pickleball podcast coming soon. 1192 00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,960 Speaker 4: As fine as If rachel has anything to do with 1193 00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:06,360 Speaker 4: it where she's starting no dinks coming. 1194 00:56:06,520 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 3: SOON i love it all. Right, OH i got a 1195 00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,799 Speaker 3: really dumb quick pickleball question Because i've read so much 1196 00:56:12,840 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 3: about pickleball AND i don't have this. Answer what's the? 1197 00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 1: Ball it's a whiffle, ball, basically. Yeah there there are 1198 00:56:20,080 --> 00:56:23,520 Speaker 1: apparently different indoor and outdoor pickleballs the size of the 1199 00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,600 Speaker 1: holes in the, ball but it's it's a whiffle. Ball 1200 00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:26,880 Speaker 1: it bounces, though. 1201 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:30,560 Speaker 4: You, know but not like, no very different if you play. 1202 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,680 Speaker 4: Tennis it's the tennis players struggle a. 1203 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 2: Little, yeah, yeah so, Okay. 1204 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:39,400 Speaker 1: Uh the scoring is weird, THOUGH i remember you were 1205 00:56:39,440 --> 00:56:42,160 Speaker 1: saying that J d takes a little bit because if 1206 00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:44,880 Speaker 1: you're playing two's or maybe even if you're, not you 1207 00:56:45,000 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: get like two serves and you only score a point 1208 00:56:47,080 --> 00:56:50,560 Speaker 1: if you're serving, well like classic old school volleyball rules. 1209 00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: There but it's like the how you call it out three, 1210 00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:55,440 Speaker 1: three five two. 1211 00:56:55,680 --> 00:56:57,479 Speaker 4: Right and then who's two? Again? 1212 00:56:57,640 --> 00:56:58,120 Speaker 3: Yeah and it. 1213 00:56:58,239 --> 00:57:00,960 Speaker 4: Switches, yeah that's, confusing. 1214 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,839 Speaker 2: But anyway you'll get to hang of. It pick a ball. 1215 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:06,400 Speaker 1: Bonus uh question, here, guys we're gonna end with this 1216 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,920 Speaker 1: because we're talking about other. Sports gregorio by way of 1217 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,799 Speaker 1: YouTube sent this one in so we do see. Them, 1218 00:57:12,840 --> 00:57:15,320 Speaker 1: guys what would be the best ball to hoop with 1219 00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:15,880 Speaker 1: from another? 1220 00:57:15,960 --> 00:57:23,520 Speaker 2: Sport all, Right i'm ruling out, football ruling out, hockey 1221 00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,160 Speaker 2: pocket from no. OFFENSE i don't think we're gonna do 1222 00:57:26,160 --> 00:57:28,479 Speaker 2: it either of. Those, okay what's what's the short? 1223 00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:29,720 Speaker 3: List short? 1224 00:57:29,800 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 2: LIST i would say. Volleyball, yeah you said soccer. Ball, 1225 00:57:34,040 --> 00:57:35,280 Speaker 2: YEAH i think it's gotta be on the short. List 1226 00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:37,120 Speaker 2: it's on the. Shortlist size, wise it's right. There yea 1227 00:57:38,320 --> 00:57:41,040 Speaker 2: tennis ball too, crazy too small. Crazy the bounce is. 1228 00:57:41,120 --> 00:57:43,080 Speaker 2: Nice the bounce is is a factor to, Me SO 1229 00:57:43,160 --> 00:57:48,120 Speaker 2: i think for a combination of, size grip and bounce, factor, 1230 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,640 Speaker 2: yeah gotta be. Volleyball going. Volleyball so you're you're in a. 1231 00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 2: Pinch nobody brought a. 1232 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:55,680 Speaker 1: Ball leah's traveled to the other side of the globe 1233 00:57:56,240 --> 00:57:58,840 Speaker 1: purposely didn't bring a. Ball and then then and then 1234 00:57:58,880 --> 00:58:00,720 Speaker 1: no one has a, basketball and they, like what are 1235 00:58:00,720 --> 00:58:01,120 Speaker 1: we playing? 1236 00:58:01,160 --> 00:58:02,400 Speaker 3: With bring a? 1237 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,600 Speaker 2: VOLLEYBALL i GUESS i think you're probably. 1238 00:58:04,760 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 3: Right, yeah and there's something that's in the exact same 1239 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 3: family as a handball. Ball you know when you're watching 1240 00:58:09,720 --> 00:58:12,120 Speaker 3: The olympics and they're throwing that ball or a mini, ball, 1241 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:15,240 Speaker 3: right they can handle, it they bounce. It SO i just, 1242 00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:19,000 Speaker 3: figure like it's the. Same it's a good. Point how 1243 00:58:19,040 --> 00:58:19,360 Speaker 3: big is? 1244 00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:21,600 Speaker 1: IT i guess it's LIKE i think it's like a mini, ball, 1245 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,280 Speaker 1: yeah like a little Smaller, yeah you know WHAT i, 1246 00:58:24,320 --> 00:58:26,360 Speaker 1: Mean like you'd go, like, yeah of course those mini 1247 00:58:26,400 --> 00:58:27,200 Speaker 1: balls we always played. 1248 00:58:27,200 --> 00:58:31,640 Speaker 2: With my answer is mini, Ball, okay smaller. BASKETBALL i 1249 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:35,360 Speaker 2: see a lot of people saying a kickball or a dodgeball, 1250 00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:38,320 Speaker 2: ball like you, know like just that you play sports 1251 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:40,440 Speaker 2: in in middle school, gym like a big red, ball 1252 00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:42,720 Speaker 2: but it's that going to fit through the, Hoop, LIKE 1253 00:58:42,880 --> 00:58:44,720 Speaker 2: i guess it's not. That probably if you get the 1254 00:58:44,800 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 2: right that's a pretty good. Choice, yeah, Okay, gregoria what a. 1255 00:58:50,160 --> 00:58:52,960 Speaker 1: QUESTION i, mean, yeah we were debating before we went, 1256 00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: live like you were like sort of volleyball right, away 1257 00:58:55,000 --> 00:58:56,400 Speaker 1: AND i did want to make the case for soccer. 1258 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:58,080 Speaker 1: BALL i think you're like you're just you're just worried 1259 00:58:58,120 --> 00:58:59,200 Speaker 1: about the bouncing of a soccer. 1260 00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,040 Speaker 2: Ball, yeah that's how it would be tough to dribble 1261 00:59:01,080 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 2: a soccer. 1262 00:59:01,480 --> 00:59:04,720 Speaker 1: Ball BUT i like the weight of a soccer ball 1263 00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,280 Speaker 1: more than a volleyball putting it on the. 1264 00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:07,440 Speaker 3: Rim that's a great. 1265 00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:10,080 Speaker 2: Point if you've got a rack of, Them if you 1266 00:59:10,160 --> 00:59:14,160 Speaker 2: got a, racket three point no, basketballs fill them with soccer. 1267 00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:16,760 Speaker 2: Balls but if you're playing a, game it's about a. Volleyball. 1268 00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,480 Speaker 2: YEAH i think that's. RIGHT i think that's exactly. Right 1269 00:59:20,600 --> 00:59:24,680 Speaker 2: and then what about bowling balls that's for building finger 1270 00:59:24,760 --> 00:59:27,480 Speaker 2: strength for the upcoming. Season w y'all ever have that 1271 00:59:27,640 --> 00:59:30,760 Speaker 2: like weighted medicine ball that was just like a slightly 1272 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:33,000 Speaker 2: heavier version of the. Basketball that was a weird thing 1273 00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:35,840 Speaker 2: to practice. With it looked like the oldest basketball in all. 1274 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,200 Speaker 2: Time just throw this, around all, right mister buck if 1275 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 2: you say, So oh. 1276 00:59:40,080 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 3: Yeah like an exercise, Ball, yeah like a huge. One 1277 00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:44,920 Speaker 3: they wouldn't fit in the. 1278 00:59:45,040 --> 00:59:48,480 Speaker 1: Rim it will be, well you just have to play 1279 00:59:48,640 --> 00:59:50,080 Speaker 1: like old peach basket. 1280 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:52,680 Speaker 2: Rules you get it on. Top if it sits on 1281 00:59:52,760 --> 00:59:53,080 Speaker 2: top of the. 1282 00:59:53,120 --> 00:59:57,000 Speaker 1: Rim and somebody comes to the, balanotis, yeah uh, yeah. 1283 00:59:57,080 --> 00:59:59,440 Speaker 1: Dodgeballs people are. SAYING i think that's that's the right 1284 00:59:59,520 --> 01:00:02,080 Speaker 1: rubber one in my. Opinion but all, right what a, 1285 01:00:02,640 --> 01:00:05,200 Speaker 1: random weird question to end. With but that's beat Steppin' 1286 01:00:05,320 --> 01:00:07,840 Speaker 1: and you guys can send him in To No dunk's 1287 01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:10,400 Speaker 1: at The athletic Dot com YOUR, nba NON mba OR 1288 01:00:10,520 --> 01:00:13,520 Speaker 1: nba adjacent, Questions tweet them in At no Dunk. Sinc 1289 01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:15,480 Speaker 1: THAT'S i N c on the, end or lead them 1290 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,960 Speaker 1: in the YouTube comments if you're feeling frisky before we, 1291 01:00:19,080 --> 01:00:22,040 Speaker 1: go sending our best sending some love to To Kenmy 1292 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,080 Speaker 1: matumbo who is undergoing treatment for a brain, tumor And Nate, 1293 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:30,560 Speaker 1: robinson who is undergoing treatment for kidney. Failures so sending 1294 01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:32,400 Speaker 1: love to both those guys who we've had. 1295 01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:34,360 Speaker 2: The honor to talk to. 1296 01:00:34,520 --> 01:00:37,560 Speaker 3: Before absolutely, yeah and some of our, favorites IF i mean, clearly, 1297 01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:41,280 Speaker 3: honest completely most incredible interviews general. Shows so, YEAH i 1298 01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:45,480 Speaker 3: did not like hearing no news from either either camp. There, 1299 01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:47,640 Speaker 3: yeah hopefully they're both recovering as we. 1300 01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: Speak so that's it for today's. Show LIKE i said back, 1301 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: TOMORROW nba, tears what does it? Mean are we crying 1302 01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,760 Speaker 1: or are we ranking the teams in particular? Tiers we'll 1303 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:59,600 Speaker 1: figure it. Out ten Am eastern live tomorrow here from 1304 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,520 Speaker 1: The Class. Factory and then we got no buns and 1305 01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:06,120 Speaker 1: we're jumping on The ATHLETIC nba stream to get ready 1306 01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:07,280 Speaker 1: for these games tomorrow. 1307 01:01:07,360 --> 01:01:08,919 Speaker 2: Night and we got our own pregame. 1308 01:01:08,600 --> 01:01:11,360 Speaker 1: Show at six forty, five and my, god then we're 1309 01:01:11,440 --> 01:01:15,400 Speaker 1: actually watching basketball that, matters and hopefully we get a 1310 01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:16,080 Speaker 1: weggie tomorrow. 1311 01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 2: NIGHT i think. Huge, yeah yeah. 1312 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:22,320 Speaker 1: Exactly so keep sending your questions like subscribe if you 1313 01:01:22,360 --> 01:01:24,520 Speaker 1: haven't done that. Already thank you so much for joining 1314 01:01:24,560 --> 01:01:26,919 Speaker 1: us here. 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