WEBVTT - Dan Pompei on Devin Hester's future HOF bid | All Access Podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Pleasant Friday night to y'all here in Chicago, Hope ball

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<v Speaker 1>as well. This is Bears All Access. We're brought to

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<v Speaker 1>Bears super Bowl Winter tim There, I'm Jeff Joniac and

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<v Speaker 1>joined by from Phoenix former Bears quarterback Jim Miller five

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<v Speaker 1>to seven in Phoenix, Eagles and Chiefs on Sunday, getting

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<v Speaker 1>up early earlier today with us. How you doing, my man?

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<v Speaker 1>I must really love you guys. I turned fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>last night. I went to the Mike Dicka party and

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<v Speaker 1>now I've joined you guys at seven thirty in the

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<v Speaker 1>morning out here. So I really love YouTube Tom. Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>good to be with you. Well, Happy birthday, big Jim.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm feeling good. It was a great night. It was

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<v Speaker 1>a really fun time. Brian Irlacker was there, so I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to her Lacker last night. It was a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of fun. That's great. It's great to you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>great to still have this continuous support of Mike Dicka.

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<v Speaker 1>You're continuous support of the Chicago Bears, and hey, you're

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<v Speaker 1>a major media marketed you know, baby, so every where

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<v Speaker 1>you go, it's the party of the night. Well, last

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<v Speaker 1>night was a better than usual party. Brian knows how

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<v Speaker 1>to throwing me, let's put it that way. Dick always

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<v Speaker 1>good and Brian really followed up pretty well. So Brian

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<v Speaker 1>had his own party. Yes, okay, well that is home

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<v Speaker 1>turf right now in Arizona, so uh first and foremost

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<v Speaker 1>and Dika that that famous party, you know, for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the injured veterans is always an important one. It

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<v Speaker 1>draws a lot of big names, a lot of support

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<v Speaker 1>from Mike. How's Mike doing. He's doing great. Rod Droworski

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<v Speaker 1>was there. They've done it for years and Brian, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>because Mike's you know, coach Dick is going through some

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<v Speaker 1>health issues and Brian has kind of taking that Moniker

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<v Speaker 1>and taking it forward. So it's a great thing. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna thanks our producers as always, Dan Brilliant, Jordan

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<v Speaker 1>Trentup and the folks here at the Score were brought

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<v Speaker 1>to you by IGS Energy. So let's start with the

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<v Speaker 1>awards night last night. And obviously the big drop was

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<v Speaker 1>is going to be in that Hall of Fame class

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<v Speaker 1>Chicago Bear fans obviously wanted to know what the situation

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<v Speaker 1>was with Devin Hester did not make did not make it?

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<v Speaker 1>Tom and Jim, I'll start with you guys on your

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<v Speaker 1>reaction to that first and foremost. Later in the program,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be talking to Dan Pompey, who's on that forty

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<v Speaker 1>nine man committee to select the Hall of Fame class.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I'm disappointing, You know, Jeff, We'd have the

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity and the privilege to broadcast every single one of

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Hester Hester's game, So this is not somebody that

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<v Speaker 1>we're hearing about or listening to stories that people had,

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<v Speaker 1>eyewitness accounts of what he was able to accomplish his

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<v Speaker 1>day to day detailing of how he worked at his

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<v Speaker 1>craft in order to be the best in its disappointing. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think for me, anytime any of these voters, and

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to a lot of them out here, from

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff Hobson to you know, you look at Alex Marvez,

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<v Speaker 1>all these voters who vote for the Hall of Fame,

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<v Speaker 1>it's always about who changed the game, who has made

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<v Speaker 1>an impact on the game and changed it, And I

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<v Speaker 1>think Devin Hester has done I mean clearly as a

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<v Speaker 1>statistics proven but as Tom says. The further you get

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<v Speaker 1>away from it, now you start to get into the

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<v Speaker 1>senior class and all those type of things, and it

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<v Speaker 1>gets pretty political. Those guys get in a room and

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<v Speaker 1>they kind of get to the point where if you

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<v Speaker 1>vote for my guy, I'll vote for your guy, and

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of trading how do you say it, They're

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<v Speaker 1>they're they're kind of basically using votes in order to

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<v Speaker 1>get their guy in and it becomes very political at

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<v Speaker 1>that point. But at the end of the day, it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to be who's who's the guy that changed the game,

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<v Speaker 1>Who's the guy who went back to the game more

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<v Speaker 1>than anyone that has ever done it. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>Devin Hester has done that personally. Yes, Devin Hester did

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<v Speaker 1>revolution ice how teams prepare for the kickoff return and

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<v Speaker 1>the punt return. And it still puzzles me to this

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<v Speaker 1>day why why they even bothered kicking to him because

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<v Speaker 1>he made something happen and that group was so invested

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<v Speaker 1>in getting him to the end zone. It became a fury.

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<v Speaker 1>It just a furious fury to get him to the

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<v Speaker 1>end zone. And it happened to him any times. Again.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk more about Devin in particular coming up in

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<v Speaker 1>a segment later on tonight. Also the class itself. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>break that down. So it's defensive heavy. In fact, the

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<v Speaker 1>last two years, eight of the ten modern day finalist

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<v Speaker 1>Fellas are defensive players and offensive players dwarf the number

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<v Speaker 1>of defensive players in the Hall of Fame. But Joe Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>the left tackle of the Cleveland Browns over ten thousand

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<v Speaker 1>consecutive snaps on a team to not win a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Durrell reevs. Revis Island, one of the best corners in

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<v Speaker 1>NFL history. DeMarcus ware As a pass rusher, no question,

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<v Speaker 1>Ran Day Barber underrated, Nicole loved as Nicol Blitz has

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<v Speaker 1>had plenty of those and interceptions in his career for

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<v Speaker 1>a great defense. And Zach Thomas. Many people might look

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<v Speaker 1>at that one and say, well, wait a minute, how

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Thomas the middle linebacker the Miami Dolphins Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>But fellas he gets into the Hall of Fame probably

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<v Speaker 1>a name that a lot of folks may not even

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<v Speaker 1>wrap their head around a little bit. Even though we

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed the way he played, I think he was kind

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<v Speaker 1>of an underrated player. Tim and Jim, I'll start on

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<v Speaker 1>Zach Thomas, because one he did it in a three

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<v Speaker 1>four defense, and he did it in a four three,

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<v Speaker 1>and his numbers are up there with Brian Erlackers. And

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<v Speaker 1>the amount of tackles. I actually think Zach Thomas has

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<v Speaker 1>more tackles than Brian Urlacker. But it was interesting coming

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<v Speaker 1>out of college, Zach and I signed with the same agent,

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Lenta Sports, and Zach, as we know, was an

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<v Speaker 1>undersized guy, a high energy guy, just kind of an overachiever.

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<v Speaker 1>But there's no doubt in his productivity. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>if you were to go look at his numbers, they're

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<v Speaker 1>up there with Brian Urlacher. And he did it in both,

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<v Speaker 1>like I said, two different defensive schemes and was very productive.

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<v Speaker 1>And everybody questioned because he was an undersized guy. And

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<v Speaker 1>I actually talked to Zach. I said, Zach, did you

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<v Speaker 1>prefer playing in a four three or three four? He

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<v Speaker 1>preferred a three four because when you have a three four,

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<v Speaker 1>you basically have five guys who lead you unblocked, which

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<v Speaker 1>led him to make even more tackles because of his

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<v Speaker 1>quick twitch and you know, just sux ability to hit

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<v Speaker 1>and you know his love of the game. So I

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<v Speaker 1>thought Zach Thomas was deserving. I don't think it would.

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<v Speaker 1>It shouldn't be a note, shouldn't be questioned because if

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<v Speaker 1>you go look at his numbers, they're right up there

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<v Speaker 1>with Brian Urlacker. Well, you know, Zach Thomas, he did

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<v Speaker 1>what his ability and then what he was gifted with.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a great studier of the game. He had

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<v Speaker 1>great initial reaction, you know, kind of similar in size

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<v Speaker 1>to a Mike Singletary rather than a guy like Brian Urlacker.

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<v Speaker 1>So Zach Thomas, what is he? A five time All Pro?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh, you know, like Jim said, he's successful on

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<v Speaker 1>every system he's played in. And think Zach Thomas deserves it.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty eight pass breakups in his career, sixteen forced fumbles.

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<v Speaker 1>He had twenty and a half sacks, seventy four tackles

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<v Speaker 1>for loss in his career and interceptions seventeen. So Zach

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<v Speaker 1>Thomas gets in eleven hundred plus solo tackles, all right.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the veterans Ken Riley, Uh yeah, they called

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<v Speaker 1>the Snake Cincinnati. This one shot me fifty something years

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<v Speaker 1>of Cincinnati Bengals football. Anthony Munio's and Ken Riley the

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<v Speaker 1>only two Hall of famers from the Cincinnati Bengals to

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<v Speaker 1>this point anyway, Joe Burrow on TRACKAB, that's for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Kenny Riley, you look at his interceptions. You know, this

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<v Speaker 1>is why I think Peter Tillman is going to have

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<v Speaker 1>a good case to make the Hall of Fame as well,

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<v Speaker 1>the ability to cause turnovers because Kenny Riley, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>it's a log jam. You know. We know with the

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<v Speaker 1>you know, there's so few guys that are able to

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<v Speaker 1>get in, you know, basically five guys a year. That

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<v Speaker 1>becomes a log jam. And Kenny Riley has been deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>He's been on the block for for a long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm glad to hear that he finally got in.

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<v Speaker 1>I think Ken Anderson the quarterback, deserves to get in.

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<v Speaker 1>Joe Cleco, Chuck Holey, Don Correale, Tim the guy who

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<v Speaker 1>kind of invented modern day passing football, and I'm glad

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<v Speaker 1>he's in there. Yeah. Don Correal, he deserves the recognition

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<v Speaker 1>of what he's done for the NFL, because I think

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<v Speaker 1>when you come into the NFL and you bring your

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<v Speaker 1>system that you think can be successful, and then forty

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<v Speaker 1>years later, fifty years later, they're still using it and

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<v Speaker 1>even creating more from it. From the offense that Coryell design.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know Joe Klecko. He's an interesting guy because

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<v Speaker 1>when he played with the sack exchange with the New

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<v Speaker 1>York Jets, they were as dominant as you could possibly

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<v Speaker 1>be from a pass rushing defensive line. But he was

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<v Speaker 1>physical up and down the line of scrimmage and had

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<v Speaker 1>the luxury of playing against them, and we beat them

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<v Speaker 1>when we played against Cleckown Gastino. But it's nice to

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<v Speaker 1>seize an older guy like that at the recognition he deserved.

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<v Speaker 1>This is Bears All Access. We'll take our first break.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll take a look at Awards night and find out

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<v Speaker 1>With Jim Miller and Tom thare former Chicago Bears here

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<v Speaker 1>on the show, taking a look at super Bowl Week.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll get into the game in a moment. We'll also

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<v Speaker 1>hear from Damn Pompeii from the Athletic one of the

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<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame voters on Devin Hester's absence in his

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<v Speaker 1>second track, at his second crack, I should say at

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<v Speaker 1>getting into Canton, Ohio. All right, the awards ceremony last night,

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<v Speaker 1>it is a national television extravaganza for two hours. I

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<v Speaker 1>thought it was an excellent program and a couple of things,

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<v Speaker 1>but first and foremost the one that just had me

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<v Speaker 1>choked up was Damar Hamlin the Buffalo Bill safety walks

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<v Speaker 1>out on stage dramatically after all the medical first responders,

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<v Speaker 1>University of Cincinnati Medical Center personnel, everyone there that helps

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<v Speaker 1>saved his life, probably fifty people on stage, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he talks to America about, you know, getting back and

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. It was moving, fellas. I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>if either of you were able to see it at all,

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<v Speaker 1>but quite a moment and quite a statement standing ovation.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't a dry eye in that place, and players

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<v Speaker 1>are very serious when the camera hand. The audience looking

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<v Speaker 1>at him and just giving him a round applause, intently

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<v Speaker 1>listening to what he had to say. You know, for me, Jeff,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad the first responders and the people behind him

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<v Speaker 1>had the chance to get recognized for what they were

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<v Speaker 1>able to accomplish, because I think when you look at

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<v Speaker 1>the seriousness of the issue, the immediacy of the response,

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<v Speaker 1>when you have that end result of him standing up

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<v Speaker 1>in front of that stage talking to the audience, it

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<v Speaker 1>just sends a positive message out to the world. You know.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's to the accomplishments of the medical field, their dedication,

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<v Speaker 1>to the immediacy of they have to make decisions. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that is as much as de Mars up

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<v Speaker 1>there recognizing the people, that the people get the recognition

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<v Speaker 1>that they deserve. And what's what's going to be great

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<v Speaker 1>and it's going to happen again because like you said,

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<v Speaker 1>there's that going to be a dry eye in the house.

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<v Speaker 1>He's gonna play football again. You know, even Tom Mayor,

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<v Speaker 1>the doctor from the NFLPA doctor David Sills of the NFL,

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<v Speaker 1>and even our guy, doctor David Child, they believe he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to step on the field and he'll be able

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<v Speaker 1>to play football again. I mean, that's that's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>another instance where you know, everybody's just gonna be It's

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<v Speaker 1>incredible what he has gone through and what he has

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<v Speaker 1>overcome and all the people that have been involved for

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<v Speaker 1>him for the love of game and to play football,

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<v Speaker 1>and he will step on the field again and he

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<v Speaker 1>will play football. It's just a matter of time when

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<v Speaker 1>that happens, and it's gonna be another field good story

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<v Speaker 1>that he'll be able to accomplish. All Right. The awards, well,

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<v Speaker 1>we just run him down because obviously we faced these guys.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears did. Offensive Rookie of the Year Garrett Wilson,

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<v Speaker 1>the teammate of Justin Fields had a great year of

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<v Speaker 1>the Jets, and Defensive Rookie of the Year Sauce Gardner.

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<v Speaker 1>So quite one two punch put together by the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>there on an offense and defensive side of the ball.

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<v Speaker 1>Offensive Player of the Year Justin Jefferson with one hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty eight catches and eighteen hundred plush yards, a

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<v Speaker 1>legit receiver right now in this league. And somebody the

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<v Speaker 1>Bear's gonna have to deal with we you know, twice

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<v Speaker 1>a year. Nick Bosa the Defensive Player of the Year,

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<v Speaker 1>No surprise at eighteen and a half sacks. Just run

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<v Speaker 1>through those real quick, Jim. Any surprises there, and what

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<v Speaker 1>do you think about it? No? I voted for Justin

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<v Speaker 1>Jefferson for Offensive Player of the Year. What I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he truly is the best receiver in the NFL. Probably

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<v Speaker 1>him and Jamar Chase would be my top two guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But Justin Jefferson just had an incredible, incredible season all

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<v Speaker 1>the way around. I thought a good debate for defensive

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<v Speaker 1>Rookie of the Year. Sauce Gardner did have a great

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<v Speaker 1>year for the New York just but Aidan Hudginson. Look

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<v Speaker 1>what the Lions have done. I mean, look what the

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<v Speaker 1>Detroit Lions have done. They finished with their winning record.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew what their fate was before they even stepped

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<v Speaker 1>on the field with Green Bay. And I thought Aiden

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<v Speaker 1>Hudson had a great year. Nine and a half sacks,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, just continue to get better and better, and

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<v Speaker 1>that defense got better as a season win long. So

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<v Speaker 1>I personally voted for Aden Hutchinson. You know, I would

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<v Speaker 1>have picked Frexon Jones and Stena Wilson the rookie for

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<v Speaker 1>Braxton Jones, yeah, of the Chicago Bears, the left tackle.

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<v Speaker 1>I like it. He wasn't a nominee, but I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's ridiculous. I think you get a guy that comes

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<v Speaker 1>in here and plays every single snap of the entirety

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<v Speaker 1>of a season, has the amount of pressure that he

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<v Speaker 1>was willing to take onto his shoulders, the accomplishments of

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<v Speaker 1>the running game and the history of the Chicago Bears,

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<v Speaker 1>and you play every single snap of every single game,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter what the conditions are, and you think from

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<v Speaker 1>the monsoon he played in Week one against you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Bosa and his team, I didn't even know if Bosa

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<v Speaker 1>was there, but the San Francisco forty nine ers, and

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<v Speaker 1>then the cold the element of the cold game that

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<v Speaker 1>he played in later in the season, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>Hassan Reddick he could have got recognition for Defensive Player

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year from what he's been able to do

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<v Speaker 1>to really be able to take that defense into division

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<v Speaker 1>competitive to a super Bowl. Chap Peyton Man of the

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<v Speaker 1>Year is Dak Prescott of Dallas, moving speech from him

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Humble beginnings, no easy path to the National

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<v Speaker 1>Football League. But I gotta say this again, because Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Peyton and Brittany Peyton get up there on stage every

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<v Speaker 1>year they are they look fantastic and powerful up there

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<v Speaker 1>representing their father who retired thirty five years ago. Last month,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred and seventy straight games is certainly something that

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Goodell pointed out, didn't miss a game, a benchmark

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<v Speaker 1>to this day for the running back position, Big Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>and you help block for him. But hats off to

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<v Speaker 1>the Peyton family obviously. Connie Peyton as well, observing from

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<v Speaker 1>the stands, couldn't be prouder of those two children now

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<v Speaker 1>adults and representing that family in a very professional and

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<v Speaker 1>high character way. Yeah, you know one thing about Brittany

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<v Speaker 1>and Jared, really when you see these kids running around

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<v Speaker 1>in diapers around Platteville, maybe when they're up there for

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<v Speaker 1>practice or it's the inner squad game or whatever the

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<v Speaker 1>case may be, and then you talk about what these

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<v Speaker 1>two people have matured into and developed into and the

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<v Speaker 1>legacy that they're leaving behind after the legacy their dad

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<v Speaker 1>left behind. Connie Walter's wife is a great woman, and

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<v Speaker 1>Jared and Brittany have turned into two great people that

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<v Speaker 1>really support all of their communities equally as well as

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<v Speaker 1>they're at their dad. Well, here's what I'll say, because

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<v Speaker 1>I interviewed Jalen Johnson who was out here. He was

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<v Speaker 1>the representative for the Chicago Bears, and you know, all

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<v Speaker 1>all thirty two. Players that were nominated, like Jayalen Johnson

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<v Speaker 1>do a great job and what they do in their

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<v Speaker 1>communities is tremendous. But I will say this about Dak Prescott,

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<v Speaker 1>the guys following legends. When you follow a guy like

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<v Speaker 1>Roger Stallbeck, a guy like Troy Atman and Dad comes

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<v Speaker 1>under a lot of criticism, you know, because he's under

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<v Speaker 1>a microscope. And even Tony Romo obviously who we took

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<v Speaker 1>over the job from, I thought he represents not only

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<v Speaker 1>himself but the Dallas Cowboys in a great way. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the tentacles of the Chicago Bears continue to reach

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<v Speaker 1>through every single day and path in the league, including

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<v Speaker 1>this ceremony last night time your teammate Ron Rivera, the

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<v Speaker 1>head coach of the Washington Commanders, at the mic introducing

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<v Speaker 1>the Ukrainian football players that some that made it to

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<v Speaker 1>that arena last night. They all got a standing ovation.

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<v Speaker 1>Another moving moment as they showed video of the war

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<v Speaker 1>in Ukraine and that football team. Uh many have lost

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<v Speaker 1>their lives that played in that Ukrainian Pro football league,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a big deal there. Uh that league, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>complete with cheerleaders and everything you'd see in a in

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<v Speaker 1>an NFL field and it hits you in a certain

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<v Speaker 1>way what they're going through there, and that that battle

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<v Speaker 1>with Russia and Chico at the at the mic was

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<v Speaker 1>very good good. You know, Ron Rivera is a good

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<v Speaker 1>representation of what can happen to somebody when they dedicate

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<v Speaker 1>their life to football and the difficulties that these guys

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<v Speaker 1>are facing in their real and their home country. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>glad they bring recognition to it because if there's people

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<v Speaker 1>out there or ways that they can help the citizens

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<v Speaker 1>all there, I hope everybody takes action and does us

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<v Speaker 1>so accordingly. And Jim the newly named Jim Brown Award,

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<v Speaker 1>Jim in the audience health doesn't appear to be very

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<v Speaker 1>good at the moment, but he was there and they

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<v Speaker 1>renamed award. I love that Josh Jacobs of the Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>Raiders earned that hot or what do you think about

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<v Speaker 1>renaming that award? What a great year for Josh Jacobs

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<v Speaker 1>yet won the renaming the award. I mean, Jim, Jim

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's the greatest that's ever played. You know, everybody argues

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<v Speaker 1>say is that Jerry Rice. A lot of people would

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<v Speaker 1>says Jim Brown. I mean for his numbers and his

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<v Speaker 1>impact on football. But Josh Jacobs for the last FA Raiders,

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<v Speaker 1>what a year that he had. They didn't put the

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<v Speaker 1>fifth year option on him and the guy bowled out.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he had over sixty hundred yards and his

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<v Speaker 1>ability to run the football, and he's gonna be a

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<v Speaker 1>coveted running back here this offseason in free agency and

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<v Speaker 1>the MVP second time in six years. One of your

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl quarterbacks, Patrick Mahomes gets that on or Coach

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year Brian Dabo the Giants and Comeback Player

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<v Speaker 1>of the Year Seattle quarterback Geno Smith. We gotta take

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<v Speaker 1>a break. When we come back, we'll start breaking down

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. Jim is right there in Phoenix with

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<v Speaker 1>us with Tom Thare, I'm Jeff joni Acc. This is

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<v Speaker 1>six seventy the Score Jim Miller with us from Arizona,

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<v Speaker 1>and Jim, you know you've interviewed a ton of people

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<v Speaker 1>here in the last several weeks, starting with the conference

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<v Speaker 1>championship game, going over to the Senior Bowl and mobile

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<v Speaker 1>and right to Phoenix. Did you get a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>talk to Justin Field? He was making the rounds yesterday

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<v Speaker 1>on Radio Row just wondered if he had a chance. No,

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<v Speaker 1>I did not have a chance. Like I said, I

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<v Speaker 1>talked to Jalen Johnson and talked to a couple other guys.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'm generally excited. I think everybody feels this offseason,

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<v Speaker 1>the optimism that's there here. The Bears have the number

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<v Speaker 1>one pick, They've got a lot of salary cap space,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, just even among his NFL peers, they

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<v Speaker 1>believe his future is very bright, you know, and uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and I'm in that category as well. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>excited for the young man. I think he works hard,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's a good leader. I think he represents

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<v Speaker 1>the Chicago Bears the way you want your star quarterback

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<v Speaker 1>to represent an organization. And so hopefully it's just a

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<v Speaker 1>bright future and nothing but good things to come. But

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<v Speaker 1>this offseason is going to be a very critical offseason

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<v Speaker 1>for the Chicago Bears, and I think for that young

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<v Speaker 1>man's future and we'll see if he can take it

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<v Speaker 1>and run with it. So he's got that opportunity. What

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<v Speaker 1>happens here, Tom, is the marketing reps of all these players.

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<v Speaker 1>They take him to Phoenix and they take him around

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<v Speaker 1>Radio Row. So Justin did a ton of interviews yesterday,

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<v Speaker 1>but you know, he looks the part of your starting quarterback,

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<v Speaker 1>your franchise quarterback. He handled the questions very well. He

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<v Speaker 1>was upbeat, very excited about his own potential. And one

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<v Speaker 1>of the things he brought up with Rich Eyes and

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<v Speaker 1>Tom on his podcast was that he really wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>work on a short passing game, and it's something we've

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<v Speaker 1>talked about and that's a significant thing. He says he

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<v Speaker 1>wants to improve it and those little victories in the

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<v Speaker 1>short passing game will pay huge dividends. Tommy, Yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>know they You know, those are the requirements of a

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback that's trying to get better at Maybe his numbers

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<v Speaker 1>aren't that impressive, work on what your weaknesses are. And

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<v Speaker 1>Jalen Hurst talked a lot about what he was going

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<v Speaker 1>to work on last offseason. As soon as the season ended,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's the same direction that Justin has to be

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<v Speaker 1>pointed in. But the psychological effects of being around a

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<v Speaker 1>Super Bowl, I think it's more important for Justin right

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<v Speaker 1>now because you've been around some big marketed football games

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<v Speaker 1>in college and they toe and pull you in every

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<v Speaker 1>direction you need to be to be out there as

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<v Speaker 1>a player that gained as much respect as Justin Fields

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<v Speaker 1>has done over this last season, and then for him

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<v Speaker 1>to go around and get that feel of a Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>What you need to do in order to get there.

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<v Speaker 1>What happens once you do get there, The excitement, the respect,

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<v Speaker 1>everything that you've tried to earn as a player, that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you're being rewarded with as an active participant in

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl. So I don't think Justin ever wants

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<v Speaker 1>to go back there as a member of radio role

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<v Speaker 1>with the marketing team. He wants to go back to

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl as a member of the Chicago Bears

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<v Speaker 1>football team, and I think this is a good experience

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<v Speaker 1>to get some exposure around the Super Bowl. Jimmy also

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<v Speaker 1>talked about planning to talk to a Hall of Fame

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<v Speaker 1>quarterback Steve Young, to pick his brain about different things

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<v Speaker 1>mobile quarterback. Indeed, I bring this up all the time,

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<v Speaker 1>said Gilliam, tying his cleats together in practice so he

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't just jump out of the pocket as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>possible throw from the pocket. I guarantee if Steve Young

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<v Speaker 1>is going to bring up that story to Justin Fields,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, and uh, you know, like Tom said, you're

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<v Speaker 1>up and elbows with some of the greats that I've

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<v Speaker 1>ever played in the in the NFL. And what's always

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<v Speaker 1>interesting too is like when I'm down on Radio Row,

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<v Speaker 1>I always ask the players, are you going to the game?

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<v Speaker 1>And as Tom mentioned, they never go to the game

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<v Speaker 1>unless they're playing it. They want to play him. And

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's a good experience for Justice Fields because

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's another goal that you know, he's gonna want

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<v Speaker 1>to achieve in order to define his career. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>let's face a lot of guys who do get in

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<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame. They have multiple Super Bowls, they

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<v Speaker 1>reached the greatest sights you could ever reach, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>got to come with a ring, it's got to come

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<v Speaker 1>with the Lobardi Trophy. And I think that's a great

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<v Speaker 1>experience for Justin Fields, for him to create goals for himself. Lastly,

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<v Speaker 1>real quick here, the Bears obviously with the number one pick,

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<v Speaker 1>they're gonna get a lot of play for that one.

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<v Speaker 1>Adam Schefter reporting that the number of offers and the

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<v Speaker 1>type of offers are going to border on the ridiculous side.

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<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be very tempting. And Justin Fields was asked

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<v Speaker 1>about that too, about you know, the idea that how

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<v Speaker 1>they approached that number one pick, they got to do

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<v Speaker 1>their due diligence on other quarterbacks. And Justin, to his credit,

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<v Speaker 1>handled that question very well. He says, hey, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody would love honesty in the process, and you know

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<v Speaker 1>he just he's not. He says, his business and so

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<v Speaker 1>whatever happens happens, you got to do your due diligence.

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<v Speaker 1>But we'll pick up that conversation coming up out of

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<v Speaker 1>the break and look, take a look more in depth

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<v Speaker 1>at the matchup between the Eagles and the Chiefs from

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<v Speaker 1>the perspective of two former Bears, Tom There and Jim Miller.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Jeff Joni here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy

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<v Speaker 1>The Score. Welcome back to Bears All Access. Here on

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<v Speaker 1>and Tom, there, I'm Jeff Joniac and this segment of

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<v Speaker 1>up that conversation before we went to break on Justin Fields, Tom,

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<v Speaker 1>the Bears have to do their due diligence here. This

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<v Speaker 1>is a monumental foundational process this offseason given their unique

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<v Speaker 1>assets both financially and draft capital wise. Day if I

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<v Speaker 1>was Ryan Poles, I would have had a booth at

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<v Speaker 1>the Super Bowl having every single team come up with

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<v Speaker 1>their offer. You know, if you want to really condense

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<v Speaker 1>this thing down to the immediacy of the decision that

0:24:44.000 --> 0:24:46.920
<v Speaker 1>you're ultimately you're gonna have to make, But just think

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<v Speaker 1>about making this decision after Justin Fields has revealed himselves.

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<v Speaker 1>I think if you are a year ago, there may

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<v Speaker 1>be a little bit more uncertainty about where you want

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<v Speaker 1>to go with this pick. And this choice to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm never going to derail from this. I want

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<v Speaker 1>them to trade him for more picks. I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>there is that one standout guy that's going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a team changer that you can pick with that first

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<v Speaker 1>pick and then wait until the fifties. Half of that,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, and I hope Bryan Poles is listening to

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<v Speaker 1>every everybody and gets a majority of quality picks that

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<v Speaker 1>he can get for that first pick in the draft. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think the Bears are pretty committed to justin fields.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, just by everything that Brian has talked about,

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<v Speaker 1>they're kind of in the driver's seat, and this is

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<v Speaker 1>a critical point for the organization's future. You know, they're

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to have the ability to really create you know,

0:25:40.840 --> 0:25:43.760
<v Speaker 1>like we mentioned, teams can go from worst to first,

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<v Speaker 1>and this is the Bears opportunity to do that. The

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:50.200
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals of the prime example, they had Joe Burrow.

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<v Speaker 1>They were last in the division, they picked Joe Burrow,

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<v Speaker 1>and they were in the super Bowl in their second year.

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<v Speaker 1>And so how they structure this offseason and the decisions

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<v Speaker 1>that they make are going to be critical at every moment.

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<v Speaker 1>And they got to make the choices for the right

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<v Speaker 1>guys that build the team, whether it's through the draft,

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<v Speaker 1>whether it's through free agency, it's a really monument as

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<v Speaker 1>monumental moment in the organization's history where they can maybe

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<v Speaker 1>change the trajectory of what has happened over the past

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<v Speaker 1>few years. Jim, we were together at the Senior Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and so we saw a lot of players. Shrine Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>had some good players as well. Where three weeks off

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<v Speaker 1>from the combine and started pro days. Did we see

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<v Speaker 1>some bears on that field Inmobile Because at different positions

0:26:37.520 --> 0:26:40.959
<v Speaker 1>across the board, I think I think we may have right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think certain teams really look at that Senior Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>and they really only draft a lot of players. Dallas

0:26:48.440 --> 0:26:51.960
<v Speaker 1>would be one the Seattle Seahawks, where they believe that

0:26:52.080 --> 0:26:54.800
<v Speaker 1>those players are what they witnessed during that week of practice,

0:26:55.080 --> 0:26:56.520
<v Speaker 1>they are going to be part of their future of

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<v Speaker 1>their franchise. Look at Tariq Wollam. I mean here we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about sauce Gardner. Here. Tarik Woollen is a later

0:27:03.480 --> 0:27:06.359
<v Speaker 1>round draft pick. He was tied with sauce Gardner in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of interception. It's actually led sauce Gardner. So a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of teams view that game as a building block

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<v Speaker 1>for their team. And there's a reason why because one

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<v Speaker 1>of the best talent in the country, and then they

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<v Speaker 1>showed their wars during the week and all that scouting

0:27:22.880 --> 0:27:26.199
<v Speaker 1>that's involved, and a lot of teams believe that you

0:27:26.280 --> 0:27:30.000
<v Speaker 1>can get really good players because that that Bowl game,

0:27:30.080 --> 0:27:31.800
<v Speaker 1>much like we're talking about the history of the game,

0:27:32.119 --> 0:27:35.359
<v Speaker 1>that Senior Bowl is a proven track record of how

0:27:35.400 --> 0:27:37.720
<v Speaker 1>you can build your team. Time. Did you fall in

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<v Speaker 1>at love with any players? You know? I again I

0:27:40.160 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>refer to this team the office of Lineman, but you know,

0:27:42.800 --> 0:27:44.960
<v Speaker 1>just because it's the versatility and the fact that you

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<v Speaker 1>can make a pick and he can fit into one

0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.399
<v Speaker 1>of three or four different spots and to make you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a team relevant. But no, there was a couple of guys.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to see the Northwestern defensive tackle Adam

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<v Speaker 1>all Right, Yeah, yeah, And I wanted to see him

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<v Speaker 1>in game conditions, you know, when you're reacting to the down,

0:28:06.520 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>the distance in the play, not necessarily a one on

0:28:09.440 --> 0:28:14.639
<v Speaker 1>one drill or an inside run period. So I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, Jeff, we've we've never been around this first

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<v Speaker 1>pick in the draft before, so I think it kind

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<v Speaker 1>of changes the way that you have to evaluate every

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<v Speaker 1>single person in the draft this year. All right, before

0:28:26.000 --> 0:28:29.360
<v Speaker 1>we get into the big game on Sunday. Hendon Hooker Tennessee.

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<v Speaker 1>He was there all week, Jim. He's intriguing to me.

0:28:32.560 --> 0:28:34.920
<v Speaker 1>He had an unbelievable year going at Tennessee before the

0:28:35.000 --> 0:28:37.840
<v Speaker 1>knee injury. He's working his way back to a video

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<v Speaker 1>of him making throws. Where do you think he will

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<v Speaker 1>ultimately slot? Will teams? You know that the thinking was

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<v Speaker 1>he's going to fall out of certain levels because of

0:28:47.720 --> 0:28:52.440
<v Speaker 1>the injury. But he's an intriguing player. Yeah. Hey, there's

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<v Speaker 1>been first rounders that have been drafted with toward a seals.

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:58.880
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Simmons of the Tennessee Titans would be won. He

0:28:59.040 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>filled a seventeen in Tennessee. Took him and look at

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Simmons today. We could go through running backs all

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<v Speaker 1>that I interviewed head and Hooker one. He's got big hands,

0:29:10.240 --> 0:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>he can spin it. He's very talented and I like him.

0:29:13.720 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 1>He's a leader, you know. So I think a lot

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:20.320
<v Speaker 1>of teams as he continues to heal and all that

0:29:20.440 --> 0:29:23.200
<v Speaker 1>will will show itself. But I think he's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be a high draft pick in my opinion. He's got

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<v Speaker 1>all the intangibles you're looking for at the position a quarterback.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, let's talk about the game, super Bowl fifty seven.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's a beauty, the weirdest thing of all. If

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<v Speaker 1>you're into numbers, like our statistician Doug Colletti is, it's

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 1>amazing the context of numbers. But how these two teams

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<v Speaker 1>through nineteen games are both sixteen and three and have

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<v Speaker 1>scored the exact number of points offensively is beyond me.

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<v Speaker 1>There are many others that are also tied together, but

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<v Speaker 1>this is a colossal matchup and I believe it still

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<v Speaker 1>will be one of the trenches. Jim, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>your keys to victory and whom? Well, I think Steve Spagnole,

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<v Speaker 1>the defensive coordinat Kansas City, is gonna have to be

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<v Speaker 1>really aggressive on first and second down, meaning he's gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to blitz blitz to stop the run. Because if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at Philadelphia when they're in third and two,

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<v Speaker 1>in third and four and third and five, there's still

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred percent that they could run the football and

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<v Speaker 1>they get first downs. So I think that's going to

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<v Speaker 1>be the key. Because you mentioned the trenches. They've got

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<v Speaker 1>to stop the run game because they've got a young secondary,

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<v Speaker 1>they've given up more touchdown passes than any team in

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<v Speaker 1>the league when you look at Kansas City. So if

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<v Speaker 1>Kansas City can be productive defensively and stopping Philadelphia on

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<v Speaker 1>first and second down, then they'll have a chance. If

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<v Speaker 1>they cannot do that, it's gonna be Philadelphia. In my opinion,

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<v Speaker 1>all the way, they are the better team, They're the

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<v Speaker 1>better built roster, they have more depth, and they got

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<v Speaker 1>a ton of town. You know, to me, I think

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<v Speaker 1>the game boils down to the Kansas City offensive line

0:30:58.320 --> 0:31:02.960
<v Speaker 1>and you know that levels of defenders at Philadelphia that

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<v Speaker 1>they can put out there. They could put fresh bodies

0:31:05.720 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>in the middle of a drive and I would turn

0:31:09.240 --> 0:31:11.760
<v Speaker 1>Travis Kelsey into a blocker. I wouldn't let them be

0:31:11.800 --> 0:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>a receiver in this game because they have different potions

0:31:15.000 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>in different ways that they can formulate their defensive personnel

0:31:18.400 --> 0:31:20.640
<v Speaker 1>and the line of scrimmage, and you can make that

0:31:20.760 --> 0:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>tight end come inside the formation to be a blocker

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<v Speaker 1>on a guy. And if you can create matchups like

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<v Speaker 1>Hassan Reddick against the tight ends, then that's a winning matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think it kind of spells disaster or puts

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick Mahomes in a retreat position. So I think This

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<v Speaker 1>game boils down in the Kansas City offensive line as

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<v Speaker 1>much as any other element, including both talented quarterbacks. One

0:31:44.240 --> 0:31:48.240
<v Speaker 1>thing that I see here Eagles jumped on teams ferociously,

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<v Speaker 1>got the lead and then ran the ball in the

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<v Speaker 1>second half. Jim, is that possible here? Is that? Is

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<v Speaker 1>that their pathway to victory because that's been their formula.

0:31:57.520 --> 0:32:00.680
<v Speaker 1>I looked this up or I read this somewhere. Jalen

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<v Speaker 1>Hurts only through twenty two passes trailing in the fourth quarter,

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<v Speaker 1>so he hasn't been used to it, while Mahomes has

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<v Speaker 1>and Mahomes has been the dramatic come from behind guy.

0:32:10.480 --> 0:32:13.240
<v Speaker 1>Let's face it. I mean, Philadelphia has had the easier

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<v Speaker 1>path to get here. You'd have to go back five

0:32:15.560 --> 0:32:19.200
<v Speaker 1>games where they lost to Dallas. Dallas put up forty

0:32:19.240 --> 0:32:22.720
<v Speaker 1>points on Philadelphia. This defense can be scored upon him,

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>you know. But as Tom mentioned the blocking for Kansas City.

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<v Speaker 1>You know we saw two years ago in Super Bowl

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<v Speaker 1>fifty five, Patrick Mahomes was running for his life and

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<v Speaker 1>it wasn't a winning recipe, you know, against the Tampa

0:32:36.480 --> 0:32:39.880
<v Speaker 1>Bay Buccaneers. So it's gonna be critical. As talented as

0:32:39.920 --> 0:32:43.440
<v Speaker 1>he is, you still got to protect him and obviously

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:46.560
<v Speaker 1>seventy eight Sexs says it all from Philadelphi Eagles. Oh

0:32:46.600 --> 0:32:50.400
<v Speaker 1>my gosh, I mean, it's just ten guys deep, including

0:32:50.480 --> 0:32:55.280
<v Speaker 1>Robert Quinner gets about twelve snapsy game. They're ten deep,

0:32:55.320 --> 0:32:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and they come at you in waves. And then you

0:32:57.320 --> 0:32:59.200
<v Speaker 1>know you got Chris Jones in Kansas City and a

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<v Speaker 1>sound reddick of the Eagles fourth quarter and overtime pressures,

0:33:03.640 --> 0:33:06.360
<v Speaker 1>each with twenty seven pressures, including the playoffs type for

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:09.000
<v Speaker 1>second most of the NFL. I think it's gonna be

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<v Speaker 1>one of these fourth quarter dramas. I really think it's

0:33:11.480 --> 0:33:14.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna be an amazing game. You know, if a Domica

0:33:14.160 --> 0:33:16.920
<v Speaker 1>Sue gets a chance when if he's hitting you, he's

0:33:16.960 --> 0:33:20.240
<v Speaker 1>hitting you to hurt you. He's not hitting you for

0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.280
<v Speaker 1>you get up comfortably after the play he did at

0:33:23.360 --> 0:33:26.400
<v Speaker 1>last game. And so if he does get one of

0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.560
<v Speaker 1>those fatigue shots from an offensive guard that's already wore

0:33:29.600 --> 0:33:32.400
<v Speaker 1>out from Fletcher Cox and the other guys, and all

0:33:32.400 --> 0:33:35.880
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, Sue gets a rush that he wins immediately.

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:39.880
<v Speaker 1>I mean, watch the way that he falls or he hits,

0:33:40.000 --> 0:33:43.920
<v Speaker 1>or he has bad intentions. Going back to justin fields

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:48.920
<v Speaker 1>and in the backup quarterback against San Francisco, and Jim

0:33:49.000 --> 0:33:51.239
<v Speaker 1>wonder what's great? You wonder what's great? Tom? He's a

0:33:51.240 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>free agent. War daddies. The Bears need war daddies, right hey,

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:59.880
<v Speaker 1>and listen, if this isn't that the best lesson of all.

0:34:00.160 --> 0:34:03.360
<v Speaker 1>The Eagles were four eleven and one a little over

0:34:03.440 --> 0:34:06.720
<v Speaker 1>two years ago and completely remade this thing with Doug

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:10.080
<v Speaker 1>Peterson moving on, and they've done it with a young coach.

0:34:11.120 --> 0:34:15.000
<v Speaker 1>So hey, the faith remains for the Chicago Bears and

0:34:15.040 --> 0:34:17.800
<v Speaker 1>every team out there that is not in a situation

0:34:17.920 --> 0:34:20.120
<v Speaker 1>loaded with talent like some of these teams. Jim, enjoy

0:34:20.200 --> 0:34:23.520
<v Speaker 1>the game, Enjoy the rest of your week, Happy birthday,

0:34:23.719 --> 0:34:26.879
<v Speaker 1>behave yourself if you can in Phoenix, and we will

0:34:26.880 --> 0:34:29.200
<v Speaker 1>talk to you next week. Jim. All right, guys, good

0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.560
<v Speaker 1>to talk to you. Damn Pompey from the Athletic joining

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<v Speaker 1>us next here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score.

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<v Speaker 1>This segment of Bears All Access is brought to you

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<v Speaker 1>buy CDW people to get it. Wrapping up our show tonight,

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.920
<v Speaker 1>we saved the best for last. Mister Damn Pompey, a

0:34:42.920 --> 0:34:45.040
<v Speaker 1>Hall of Fame writer for the Athletic and on that

0:34:45.120 --> 0:34:48.000
<v Speaker 1>committee of forty nine, right, forty nine that put together

0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.000
<v Speaker 1>the Hall of Fame class of twenty twenty three. Good evening, Dan,

0:34:51.080 --> 0:34:52.960
<v Speaker 1>how you feeling, Jeff, Jonny Act, Tom there with you

0:34:53.000 --> 0:34:56.600
<v Speaker 1>here on Chicago Sports Radio six seventy the score. Disappointment

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<v Speaker 1>reigns though among Bears fans here this afternoon in the eve.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll always be good to talk with you, guys, and

0:35:03.640 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>glad to be here, but I wish we had better

0:35:05.200 --> 0:35:08.680
<v Speaker 1>news to talk about. Obviously, Devin Hester did not get

0:35:08.719 --> 0:35:11.400
<v Speaker 1>in second year of eligibility. Second year he did not

0:35:11.480 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 1>get in. And actually backtrack a little bit this year.

0:35:15.840 --> 0:35:18.640
<v Speaker 1>Last year he made it to the top ten, and

0:35:18.719 --> 0:35:22.120
<v Speaker 1>this year he did not. So there's a big disappointment

0:35:22.640 --> 0:35:25.200
<v Speaker 1>for me as a voter and someone who believed strongly

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:29.400
<v Speaker 1>in his qualifications. But you know, I think part of

0:35:29.400 --> 0:35:33.799
<v Speaker 1>the processes that we have many different voices and many

0:35:33.840 --> 0:35:36.560
<v Speaker 1>different opinions and we have to listen to them all.

0:35:37.000 --> 0:35:39.400
<v Speaker 1>Clark Judge, real quick, timmy, let me just say this.

0:35:39.480 --> 0:35:44.319
<v Speaker 1>Clark Judge, who writes for a Hall of Fame publication

0:35:44.440 --> 0:35:49.000
<v Speaker 1>online a website called Talk of Fame. He actually broke

0:35:49.040 --> 0:35:53.799
<v Speaker 1>down how long each argument was for every single nominee,

0:35:54.320 --> 0:35:58.040
<v Speaker 1>and I believe Devin's was thirty three minutes in length.

0:35:59.080 --> 0:36:03.600
<v Speaker 1>And was it a hearty discussion? Were there was it

0:36:03.680 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 1>a tough sell to get him into this, uh the

0:36:07.360 --> 0:36:09.840
<v Speaker 1>finalist role? Or how did this all work out in

0:36:09.920 --> 0:36:13.000
<v Speaker 1>terms of that that? Does that time frame mean anything?

0:36:13.120 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 1>Is what I'm saying, Um, it does because there was

0:36:17.200 --> 0:36:19.640
<v Speaker 1>back and forth. It was it was a little contentious

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:26.520
<v Speaker 1>because there were a number of selectors who believe that

0:36:27.280 --> 0:36:32.840
<v Speaker 1>a special Teams player shouldn't be as validated as a

0:36:32.840 --> 0:36:36.759
<v Speaker 1>player who plays sixty five snaps in a game, and

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:40.440
<v Speaker 1>there was there was some back and forth about that.

0:36:40.480 --> 0:36:43.840
<v Speaker 1>I know there are a number of voters who believe

0:36:44.000 --> 0:36:49.640
<v Speaker 1>strongly in Hester's candidacy, as I do. But but there

0:36:49.719 --> 0:36:52.839
<v Speaker 1>is a group that came out this year that really

0:36:52.880 --> 0:36:55.319
<v Speaker 1>didn't we didn't hear from a much last year. This year,

0:36:55.360 --> 0:36:57.279
<v Speaker 1>they came out and there were a number of them

0:36:57.280 --> 0:37:00.960
<v Speaker 1>who said, look, you know, he only played so many

0:37:00.960 --> 0:37:03.520
<v Speaker 1>snaps per game. How do we value that against somebody

0:37:03.560 --> 0:37:07.560
<v Speaker 1>like DeMarcus Ware who played many more snaps per game.

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:11.000
<v Speaker 1>So that's the battle that we're fighting with Devin Hester.

0:37:11.360 --> 0:37:15.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's unique in NFL history there's been nobody

0:37:16.040 --> 0:37:18.520
<v Speaker 1>like him who's been inducted in the Pro Football Hall

0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.000
<v Speaker 1>of Fame who's been a specialist. Only very few special

0:37:22.000 --> 0:37:24.960
<v Speaker 1>teams players have been inducted in the Hall of Fame.

0:37:25.239 --> 0:37:26.759
<v Speaker 1>And then the other thing. I mean, I think he's

0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>unique in the fact that he returned football's better than

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:37.160
<v Speaker 1>anybody ever. So I think you know, that's that's why

0:37:37.520 --> 0:37:40.160
<v Speaker 1>this is not as clean a case as it would

0:37:40.200 --> 0:37:43.160
<v Speaker 1>be if he had been a wide receiver or a

0:37:43.200 --> 0:37:47.759
<v Speaker 1>cornerback or a linebacker. Dan, what's next though, I mean,

0:37:47.800 --> 0:37:50.319
<v Speaker 1>as eric continuous process to keep his name in the

0:37:50.440 --> 0:37:54.800
<v Speaker 1>rolodecks of possible candidates, is it onto the next person

0:37:54.880 --> 0:37:59.279
<v Speaker 1>for the Chicago Bears, Dia? I mean, how do you

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:03.080
<v Speaker 1>keep his name in the conversation but not be an

0:38:03.120 --> 0:38:07.799
<v Speaker 1>over type of presence where people become numb to it. Well,

0:38:07.840 --> 0:38:10.439
<v Speaker 1>I would be really surprised if he did not make

0:38:10.440 --> 0:38:14.080
<v Speaker 1>the finalist list again next year, Tom, because I said

0:38:14.280 --> 0:38:17.320
<v Speaker 1>there is a number, there are a number of voters

0:38:17.320 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>who support him strongly. So I'm going to be shocked

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:23.839
<v Speaker 1>if he's not in the top fifteen again. Now it's

0:38:23.880 --> 0:38:25.680
<v Speaker 1>just a matter of whether or not you could advance

0:38:25.760 --> 0:38:29.160
<v Speaker 1>him beyond that. And you know, I think as you

0:38:29.239 --> 0:38:33.839
<v Speaker 1>have these conversations in the room, it helps you understand

0:38:34.800 --> 0:38:36.959
<v Speaker 1>what the hurdles are that you have to get over

0:38:37.520 --> 0:38:41.040
<v Speaker 1>this year. You know, I really didn't know how strong

0:38:41.160 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>some of these people felt about the fact that a

0:38:43.760 --> 0:38:48.160
<v Speaker 1>special teams player is not on the same ground with

0:38:48.200 --> 0:38:51.879
<v Speaker 1>a player who's an offensive or defensive player. So now

0:38:51.960 --> 0:38:54.120
<v Speaker 1>I know that. I mean, I think the thing that

0:38:54.520 --> 0:38:57.880
<v Speaker 1>I've been emphasizing with him, will continue to emphasize, is

0:38:57.880 --> 0:39:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that even in a few snaps or a fewer amount

0:39:02.280 --> 0:39:06.160
<v Speaker 1>of touches, had greater impact than the large majority of

0:39:06.239 --> 0:39:09.319
<v Speaker 1>players in the history of the National Football League. And

0:39:09.920 --> 0:39:13.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, it just comes down to I think trying

0:39:13.520 --> 0:39:16.719
<v Speaker 1>to find ways to illustrate that and went over some

0:39:16.760 --> 0:39:20.080
<v Speaker 1>of the people who might feel otherwise. You know, Dan

0:39:20.200 --> 0:39:23.239
<v Speaker 1>the argument of being an every snap player to not

0:39:23.560 --> 0:39:25.879
<v Speaker 1>you know, DeMarcus Ware on the list of the guys

0:39:25.920 --> 0:39:27.719
<v Speaker 1>that are going to the Hall of Fame this year,

0:39:28.000 --> 0:39:31.640
<v Speaker 1>probably played the least amount of snaps per game, because

0:39:31.640 --> 0:39:36.280
<v Speaker 1>when you look at cornerbacks and linebackers and offensive tackles

0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:39.360
<v Speaker 1>and stuff, they are mostly every down type of players.

0:39:39.840 --> 0:39:43.080
<v Speaker 1>But you know, I think that's kind of the argument

0:39:43.120 --> 0:39:47.480
<v Speaker 1>that's going to repeat itself every year that Devin is

0:39:47.480 --> 0:39:53.440
<v Speaker 1>a candidate, But it's about his his performance, and you

0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:56.040
<v Speaker 1>know what he was able to accomplish what kind of

0:39:56.080 --> 0:40:00.880
<v Speaker 1>speaks for itself over and every down player. Yeah, I agree,

0:40:00.920 --> 0:40:03.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I think another thing that came up was, well,

0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:07.280
<v Speaker 1>why didn't he play offense? Why didn't he excel on offense?

0:40:08.320 --> 0:40:11.399
<v Speaker 1>You know, one person even brought up, well, why didn't

0:40:11.440 --> 0:40:14.600
<v Speaker 1>he play defense? You know, the point that I had

0:40:14.640 --> 0:40:18.560
<v Speaker 1>made was that he was a defensive player primarily at

0:40:18.560 --> 0:40:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the University of Miami and never really played wide receiver

0:40:22.920 --> 0:40:27.000
<v Speaker 1>before the Bears tried him at the position in two

0:40:27.000 --> 0:40:29.799
<v Speaker 1>thousand and the two thousand and eight, I believe it

0:40:29.920 --> 0:40:34.360
<v Speaker 1>was two thousand and nine, so you know, he was

0:40:34.400 --> 0:40:37.759
<v Speaker 1>basically trying to learn a position for the first time

0:40:37.800 --> 0:40:40.239
<v Speaker 1>in his life at the age of twenty six. You know,

0:40:40.400 --> 0:40:42.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't think there are many busts in Canton of

0:40:42.920 --> 0:40:46.240
<v Speaker 1>people who started to learn a position age of twenty six,

0:40:47.520 --> 0:40:50.080
<v Speaker 1>So you know, he was really just kind of born

0:40:50.160 --> 0:40:54.080
<v Speaker 1>to return kicks, and obviously he did that better than

0:40:54.120 --> 0:40:57.719
<v Speaker 1>anyone ever, and I think that's something that certainly is

0:40:57.719 --> 0:41:02.080
<v Speaker 1>worthy of induction. So now the point of emphasis on

0:41:02.600 --> 0:41:06.000
<v Speaker 1>kick returns is dropped dramatically with the change in the

0:41:06.040 --> 0:41:08.960
<v Speaker 1>fair catch and everything. Is that something that's going to

0:41:09.080 --> 0:41:13.279
<v Speaker 1>hurt him or help him? I'm not sure, you know.

0:41:13.520 --> 0:41:16.799
<v Speaker 1>I think you know, there probably is not going to

0:41:16.840 --> 0:41:22.480
<v Speaker 1>be another kick returner right who we discuss, although certainly

0:41:22.520 --> 0:41:25.399
<v Speaker 1>Cordarol Patterson has putting up some some great numbers as

0:41:25.440 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 1>a kick returner, only he wasn't a not a punt

0:41:28.000 --> 0:41:32.480
<v Speaker 1>returner like Devon. But because of the rules changes, I

0:41:32.480 --> 0:41:36.080
<v Speaker 1>would think it's unlikely that we'll ever see another returner

0:41:36.400 --> 0:41:39.880
<v Speaker 1>who's considered it in the same category as him. I

0:41:39.920 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>don't know that that affects his case one way or another.

0:41:42.640 --> 0:41:46.080
<v Speaker 1>I think, you know, basically his case every year is

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:49.399
<v Speaker 1>going to come down to Devin Hester versus the other

0:41:49.480 --> 0:41:52.320
<v Speaker 1>fourteen guys who were discussing that year. If it's fourteen

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>guys and seeing where he stacks up, I think over time,

0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:59.200
<v Speaker 1>you know, time is going to be his friend in

0:41:59.200 --> 0:42:03.680
<v Speaker 1>this process, as it was the friend of Zach Thomas,

0:42:03.680 --> 0:42:06.520
<v Speaker 1>for instance, who had to wait. I think he was

0:42:06.560 --> 0:42:10.759
<v Speaker 1>a finalist times maybe something like that, I forget off

0:42:10.760 --> 0:42:13.719
<v Speaker 1>top of my head. Ronde Barbour was a finalist number

0:42:13.760 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 1>of times. I think what happens is, you know some

0:42:17.719 --> 0:42:19.960
<v Speaker 1>voters tend to see this is you're in a queue,

0:42:19.960 --> 0:42:23.600
<v Speaker 1>You're getting the line, and over time, you know, finally

0:42:23.640 --> 0:42:25.120
<v Speaker 1>you come to the front of a line. And I

0:42:25.160 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 1>think there's gonna be a day when Devin Hester, hopefully

0:42:28.040 --> 0:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>in that too distant future, comes to the front of

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0:42:48.800 --> 0:42:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Have you spoken to Devin. I have not spoken with

0:42:52.040 --> 0:42:55.040
<v Speaker 1>him yet. No, okay, because last year he said if

0:42:55.560 --> 0:42:59.600
<v Speaker 1>works from me, though he might he might because honestly

0:42:59.640 --> 0:43:02.440
<v Speaker 1>he was very upset a year ago, and so I

0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:04.840
<v Speaker 1>have not spoken to him either. I just got a

0:43:04.880 --> 0:43:07.960
<v Speaker 1>thumbs up when he became a finalist. He sent a

0:43:08.000 --> 0:43:11.879
<v Speaker 1>thumbs up. And the amazing part of this, if I'm

0:43:11.920 --> 0:43:16.720
<v Speaker 1>not mistaken, this was all done by January, right, sometime

0:43:16.760 --> 0:43:22.800
<v Speaker 1>in January. And how did this stay so secretive? Well,

0:43:22.840 --> 0:43:25.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, we're kind of sworn to secrecy. I think

0:43:25.640 --> 0:43:28.279
<v Speaker 1>the Pro Football Hall of Fame wants to do it

0:43:28.320 --> 0:43:31.080
<v Speaker 1>this way for a couple of reasons. First of all,

0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:34.080
<v Speaker 1>there's a television announcement and you know, they're they're getting

0:43:34.120 --> 0:43:37.000
<v Speaker 1>money from the NFL networked to do this and exposure.

0:43:38.000 --> 0:43:40.320
<v Speaker 1>And the other thing is they want to have ample

0:43:40.400 --> 0:43:45.480
<v Speaker 1>time to be able to notify all fifteen finalists, you know,

0:43:45.560 --> 0:43:47.279
<v Speaker 1>are you in? Are you out? And they want to

0:43:47.320 --> 0:43:51.600
<v Speaker 1>do it in a dignified way so that everyone can

0:43:51.680 --> 0:43:56.000
<v Speaker 1>kind of digest this and not be you know, just

0:43:56.080 --> 0:44:00.080
<v Speaker 1>hitting face by something. You know, in past years, what

0:44:00.080 --> 0:44:02.279
<v Speaker 1>they used to do is they flew everyone to the

0:44:02.320 --> 0:44:06.480
<v Speaker 1>site of the Super Bowl and then you know, they

0:44:06.520 --> 0:44:08.640
<v Speaker 1>had the meeting the day of the super Bowl, right

0:44:08.640 --> 0:44:11.000
<v Speaker 1>after the super Bowl, or knocking on everyone's door saying

0:44:11.280 --> 0:44:12.719
<v Speaker 1>you made it or you didn't make it. If you

0:44:12.719 --> 0:44:14.839
<v Speaker 1>didn't make it, you know, here's your plane ticket home,

0:44:14.920 --> 0:44:17.440
<v Speaker 1>see you later, you know, And that was kind of

0:44:17.480 --> 0:44:19.319
<v Speaker 1>a kind of a rough way to do it. So

0:44:19.360 --> 0:44:22.400
<v Speaker 1>this is a, like I said, it's a more dignified,

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:25.200
<v Speaker 1>personal way of doing it. All right. So, our last

0:44:25.280 --> 0:44:27.759
<v Speaker 1>question with Dan Pompey. So next year, some of the

0:44:27.840 --> 0:44:32.040
<v Speaker 1>names Julius Peppers, Antonio Gates, the great tight end safety,

0:44:32.160 --> 0:44:34.799
<v Speaker 1>Eric Berry, they become a part of this mix and

0:44:34.840 --> 0:44:37.640
<v Speaker 1>then the great class of finalists this year, there's a

0:44:37.680 --> 0:44:40.759
<v Speaker 1>lot of receivers. This was a defensive lean. Eight of

0:44:40.840 --> 0:44:45.800
<v Speaker 1>the last ten Modern Day finalists, our inductees, our defensive players.

0:44:46.000 --> 0:44:48.560
<v Speaker 1>It's a little warped in terms of the entire hall

0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:52.600
<v Speaker 1>with offense defense. So as you, again, like Tom's question,

0:44:52.680 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>where do we go from here? How do you think

0:44:55.280 --> 0:44:57.880
<v Speaker 1>that impacts Devin And once you're a finalist back to

0:44:57.920 --> 0:45:00.400
<v Speaker 1>back years, do you kind of stay in that realm

0:45:00.480 --> 0:45:04.480
<v Speaker 1>for a while or not? Yeah? I expect him to

0:45:04.520 --> 0:45:08.000
<v Speaker 1>be in the mix again next year. You know, as

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:11.000
<v Speaker 1>you said, Julius Peppers is a strong first time candidate.

0:45:11.239 --> 0:45:15.400
<v Speaker 1>Antonio Gates might be candidate. We've got three wide receivers

0:45:15.440 --> 0:45:17.120
<v Speaker 1>that have been sitting there for a number of years

0:45:17.120 --> 0:45:20.760
<v Speaker 1>that eventually the log jam might break with them, Andre Johnson,

0:45:20.800 --> 0:45:23.640
<v Speaker 1>Reggie Wayne and Tory Holt. And then there's a number

0:45:23.640 --> 0:45:26.400
<v Speaker 1>of other guys who are turning like Jared Allen, you

0:45:26.440 --> 0:45:28.760
<v Speaker 1>know who is going to get him one of these years,

0:45:28.800 --> 0:45:32.600
<v Speaker 1>I think, and you know it's but he's going to

0:45:32.640 --> 0:45:35.120
<v Speaker 1>be in the mix without a doubt. Next year. I'm

0:45:35.160 --> 0:45:37.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna be pulling for him, all right, Dan, thank you

0:45:37.520 --> 0:45:40.600
<v Speaker 1>so much for taking the time. Great job as always

0:45:40.640 --> 0:45:43.279
<v Speaker 1>on that Hall of Fame committee charting the history of

0:45:43.280 --> 0:45:45.799
<v Speaker 1>the game and preserving it. Thank you so much. All right,

0:45:45.840 --> 0:45:47.640
<v Speaker 1>thanks for having me, guys. That's gonna wrap up our

0:45:47.640 --> 0:45:50.560
<v Speaker 1>show tonight. Four time there, Jim Miller and Dan Pompey.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks to our producers as well. Have fun this Super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl weekend for the Eagles and the Chiefs in Arizona.

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