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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Fox Sports Radio, Fox Sports Saturday Era Tours.

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Speaker 2: Jason Martin, we are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

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Speaker 2: Radio studios. Jay Bartin Torres, We're back, baby. I was

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Speaker 2: out the last two weeks July. I will just tell

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Speaker 2: the audience not that anybody cares. Crazy birthday month in

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Speaker 2: the Torres family, So I've just been a lot of

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Speaker 2: family stuff over the last couple of weeks. J Martin,

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Speaker 2: I know you were in with Arnie last week.

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Speaker 3: I think you shared why you were out two weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: So I'm hoping and assuming since you were back last

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Speaker 2: week that everything's okay and that everything was successful and everything.

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Speaker 3: But hope you're well.

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Speaker 2: Hope everything's good, and most importantly, it's great to be

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Speaker 2: back with you.

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Speaker 4: Man.

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Speaker 3: How you doing doing well?

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Speaker 4: Man? Doing well? Yeah, everything went pretty well. Sign a surgery.

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Speaker 4: I mean, you know, it wasn't the most fun for

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Speaker 4: a couple of days. Felt like I had a really bad,

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Speaker 4: so honest infection for about two weeks. But doing okay.

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Speaker 4: Still kind of waiting to see the final results tabulate

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Speaker 4: over the next couple of weeks to what they you know,

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Speaker 4: really kind of hit what they should hit. But yeah,

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Speaker 4: I was here with Arnie last week and I made

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Speaker 4: it through and congratulation that's always a positive. Of course.

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Speaker 4: He was talking about how you taking off July just

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Speaker 4: shows you know, a lack of character on your part

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Speaker 4: and things like that. So you know how it goes.

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Speaker 3: I sure do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I mean when I took off the back to back Saturdays,

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Speaker 2: I knew there was gonna be a lot of snark

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Speaker 2: from Arnie Spanierd of course, But I'll give Arnie span

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Speaker 2: your credit for this. No matter what he said about

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Speaker 2: me last week, it wasn't crazy or more delusional then

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Speaker 2: what came out of the WNBA All Star Game. J Mart,

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Speaker 2: That's right. I you know, listen, I know we've been

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Speaker 2: blessed with a lot of good stories here in May, June, July,

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Speaker 2: plenty to talk about. It feels like there's been no shortage.

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: Tonight, we knew we were coming off the WNBA All

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Speaker 2: Star Game. We weren't really quite sure if it was

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Speaker 2: gonna be a topic, what the angle was gonna be.

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Speaker 2: Caitlin Clark was out, well, you know the WNBA.

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Speaker 3: I'll tell you this, love them or hate them.

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Speaker 2: They are the content gods that keep on giving because

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Speaker 2: for people who have not seen it, First of all,

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Speaker 2: dis Seger gave you all the particulars.

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Speaker 3: Congrats to Team Collier for winning the WNBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 2: I'll say this before we get to the main point,

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Speaker 2: a little bit of an embarrassment because they have taken

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Speaker 2: up the NBA vibes of oh, let's just not even

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Speaker 2: try and this is fun and it's like, no, no,

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Speaker 2: you guys aren't good enough to whatever.

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Speaker 3: But that's not the story.

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Speaker 2: The story is before the game, and we're not blowing

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Speaker 2: this up because this is now officially the lead story

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Speaker 2: on ESPN dot com. Before the game, WNBA All Stars,

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Speaker 2: who are currently in collective targeting negotiations with their obviously

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Speaker 2: with the players union and obviously the league, they wore

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Speaker 2: every player wore shirts that said pay us what you

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Speaker 2: owe us, pay us what you owe us in the

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Speaker 2: midst of a contract or a CBA negotiation. Jaymartin, I

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Speaker 2: got so many takes, but I feel like the only

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Speaker 2: one that gets fired up more fired up about WNBA

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Speaker 2: stupidity than me is you. So I'm gonna go ahead

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Speaker 2: and give you the floor and piggyback off what you

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Speaker 2: have to say about WNBA players all wearing pay us

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Speaker 2: what you Owe Us t shirts in warm ups prior

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Speaker 2: to the All Star Game.

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Speaker 4: I'm what am I supposed to say?

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Speaker 2: Whatever you want, Just let it all out, pretend there's

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Speaker 2: not even nobody's listening.

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Speaker 3: It's just the two of us.

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Speaker 4: First off, well, look, probably not a whole lot of

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Speaker 4: people watch this. Anybody that found out when Clark was

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Speaker 4: not going to be part of it, was not gonna play,

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Speaker 4: You never have seen probably an All Star game go

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Speaker 4: from hero to zero that fast in your life. But

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Speaker 4: they're wearing these shirts. I would argue most people have

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Speaker 4: no idea what they mean. First of all, they're making

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Speaker 4: a statement about pay us what you owe us. I

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Speaker 4: understand you're in the midst of collective bargaining, so you're

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Speaker 4: trying to do you get as much as you possibly can.

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Speaker 4: And I really don't begrudge you for that, but you

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Speaker 4: got to read the room, and by the room, I

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Speaker 4: mean the country. If the WNBA ceased to exist tonight,

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Speaker 4: the marketplace would not shift one iota. It wouldn't even

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Speaker 4: recognize it. It wouldn't even notice, like literally outside of just

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Speaker 4: a few die hards that are out there that you know,

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Speaker 4: just swear by women's basketball, especially women's pro ball. I've

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Speaker 4: always argued, continue to argue women's college basketball is always

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Speaker 4: going to be bigger overall. Then the WNBA is The

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Speaker 4: only difference now is there's a unicorn in that league.

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Speaker 4: We'll see how long that last, because she seems to

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Speaker 4: be getting hurt an awful lot, and they've squandered big

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Speaker 4: anyone really even notice, Like, would you really, like four

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Speaker 4: months from now, say, man who won the WNBA championship,

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Speaker 4: I missed that somewhere. If it went away, we wouldn't

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Speaker 4: even recognize it. They'd have to tell us that they

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Speaker 4: I know some people are offended by me saying that,

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Speaker 4: but I'm just being honest. It's not a league that

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Speaker 4: has any kind of name recognition whatsoever, and any kind

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Speaker 4: of recognition it seems to be getting is negative. Everything

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Speaker 4: is negative. Everything comes across as selfish everything mainly, and

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Speaker 4: it's not even about the money, but it comes across

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Speaker 4: as incredibly tone deaf based on how they've treated their

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Speaker 4: one superstar. Everything that they say seems to be political

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Speaker 4: and wrong, and now they're coming out of here sand

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Speaker 4: that they want a bunch more money for what, Like,

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Speaker 4: You're not going to be drawing any money. The only

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Speaker 4: reason you exist is because Adam Silver and the NBA

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Speaker 4: has continued to allow it to happen. It's not like

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Speaker 4: it's making them money. So I mean, good for them

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Speaker 4: for trying to get the money that they think that

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Speaker 4: they deserve. But wearing those shirts is just gonna make

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Speaker 4: most of the sports watching public roll their eyes because

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Speaker 4: one they're not gonna care, and two they're not even

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Speaker 4: gonna understand, and three they're gonna say, yeah, great, yeah,

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Speaker 4: go ahead and pay them, pay them what they want.

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Speaker 4: That's fine. But if they disappear, it's gonna be like

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Speaker 4: spring football, man Like, it's just gonna go and we're

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Speaker 4: gonna keep on moving on with our lives.

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Speaker 2: So that was much nicer than I thought you were

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Speaker 2: gonna be a couple of things. When you said the

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Speaker 2: average consumer probably doesn't know what they mean, I would

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Speaker 2: disagree only because I think the WNBA's brand is now

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Speaker 2: delusion it's delusion with everything that they do. It's usion

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Speaker 2: with how much money they should be paid. It's delusion

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Speaker 2: with the fact that Caitlyn Clark isn't the only thing

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Speaker 2: does Asia Wilson get a shoe before Kate? It's like

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Speaker 3: And the only thing I.

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Speaker 2: Would say is, you know, well, really a couple of

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Speaker 2: I thought of it this evening when I saw this

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Speaker 2: is you know, Clay always used to say, and he's

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Speaker 2: a lawyer whatever. Everybody knows, you know his background, but

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Speaker 2: certainly you and I do. But he always used to say, listen,

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Speaker 2: everybody has First Amendment rights, but when you speak, we

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Speaker 2: are then allowed to react to what you said. And

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Speaker 2: this is just delusion on the highest level. And I

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Speaker 2: think the ironic part, the funny part I think the

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Speaker 2: fact that the part that anybody with a brain understands

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Speaker 2: is that if we actually.

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Speaker 3: Paid you what we owe you, we would just shut

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Speaker 3: down the league because not only do we not owe

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Speaker 3: you anything, Jmark.

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Speaker 2: To your point, as everybody knows, and you know, I

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Speaker 2: think anyone who would listen to a show like this

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Speaker 2: understands us at this point is that the league loses

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Speaker 2: money hand over fist year over year, and to your point,

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Speaker 2: the only reason it's there is because of Adam Silver

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Speaker 2: and so, uh yeah, pay us what you owe us.

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Speaker 3: Okay, Cool, We're actually gonna.

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Speaker 2: Shut down the league and you guys can go get

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Speaker 2: real jobs because you guys don't make any money, and

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Speaker 2: so this concept that you should be making more out

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Speaker 2: of a pot of negative dollars that don't exist. I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry that I don't feel bad that your salaries are

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Speaker 2: not higher.

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Speaker 4: Yep, I mean that's right. Again, obviously we're not paying

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Speaker 4: you what we owe you. They're talking about the collective

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Speaker 4: bargaining in this situation. I understand that you're trying to

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Speaker 4: negotiate and all this, but you got to understand that

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Speaker 4: we don't need women's pro basketball in this country, Like

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Speaker 4: I mean, truth, truth be told, we don't need very

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Speaker 4: many sports in this country in terms of a need.

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Speaker 4: Like you think about what's needed and what's wanted and

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Speaker 4: all this kind of stuff, but generally, you're worth what

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Speaker 4: the marketplace is willing to pay you. You are worth

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Speaker 4: you know what you what you produce. And it's not

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Speaker 4: about you're out there working hard or you're practicing hard

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Speaker 4: or anything else. It's do people pay to see you?

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Speaker 4: And generally speaking, actually not generally majority speaking, the answer

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Speaker 4: is no. Like no, people are not like they're not

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Speaker 4: generally entertained by women's basketball. They're just not. You can

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Speaker 4: put Angel Reese on the cover of every video game

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Speaker 4: that you want to. It's I said this to Arnie

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Speaker 4: last week, and I no, you know you weren't here,

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Speaker 4: but we would have talked about this. I said. My

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Speaker 4: only real problem with that is I don't even care

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Speaker 4: because somebody tweeted and was upset and said, you know,

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Speaker 4: Angel Reese has better stats than Kaitlin Clark says, Its

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Speaker 4: not about stats. It's about who's going to sell the game.

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Speaker 4: It's about it's about selling copies. And I don't think

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Speaker 4: that people understand. I mean, shake Gil just Alexander is

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Speaker 4: the mail on the cover, and then you've got Carmelo

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Speaker 4: Anthony as the legend. Caitlin Clark would outsold both of

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Speaker 4: them because she's a unicorn, and because people would have

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Speaker 4: bought it that don't even play games and would have

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Speaker 4: kept it sealed and just put it on the shelf

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Speaker 4: as part of their collection. Nobody's buying an Angel Rees game,

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Speaker 4: but that Kaitlin Clark would have been that had been

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Speaker 4: one of the most popular covers in the history of

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Speaker 4: that game. That's the point. It has nothing to do

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Speaker 4: with Angel Reese having a good season or like her

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Speaker 4: basketball acumen is completely irrelevant to this. It's marketing. It's

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Speaker 4: about selling games. It's about selling things. And when you

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Speaker 4: look at the WNBA, they pretty much have one meal

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Speaker 4: ticket and that's it. And I think that you will

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Speaker 4: find that out when you see the ratings for what's

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Speaker 4: happened over the last couple of days with her being out,

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Speaker 4: not being in the three point Contest, not being in

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Speaker 4: the All Star Game. People might not want to hear it,

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Speaker 4: but I had zero interest. I don't know that I

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Speaker 4: at that point in time, there was nothing there at all.

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Speaker 2: We're at a place where it feels like everybody now

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Speaker 2: Well, i'll tell you what, j mart I. Actually, now

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Speaker 5: Four time WNBA All Star Britty HIGs is here.

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Speaker 2: before the break, we were talking about WNBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 3: No, nothing that happened on the court.

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Speaker 2: Nobody actually cares about that, but the story out of

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Speaker 2: pay us what you owe us. Of course, the issue

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Speaker 2: another thing for those benefiting from your subsidization. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if I said that word right, but benefiting from

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Speaker 2: it to not appreciate it at all. And I guess

434
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Speaker 2: my question is, like, I know, we could talk like

435
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Speaker 2: pie in the sky hypotheticals like I don't think the

436
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Speaker 2: NBA is shutting down the WNBA because they whine too much,

437
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,080
Speaker 2: But it's like, what do you think that that the

438
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Speaker 2: people that are actually paying to keep this league afloat

439
00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,800
Speaker 2: think about this whole situation.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good question because it seems like, again,

441
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Speaker 4: like we talked about in the first segment, so much

442
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:19,359
Speaker 4: of what gets said about the WNBA, from just whatever

443
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:23,000
Speaker 4: the storylines are are almost all negative. Almost all of

444
00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:27,479
Speaker 4: it is bad. And generally speaking, I mean, a lot

445
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,800
Speaker 4: of people have made their living turning that league into

446
00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 4: joke content on their radio programs for a decade or more,

447
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,600
Speaker 4: and it, you know, to some degree that has shifted.

448
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,480
Speaker 4: But for a long time, I'm sure you've probably saw

449
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Speaker 4: an eyed this and said, yeah, you know, it's good

450
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Speaker 4: that we it's good that we're doing this. But it's

451
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Speaker 4: starting to it's like every time they have a have

452
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Speaker 4: a way to do something, they're shooting themselves in the foot.

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Speaker 4: That's why when we talked about this last year, if

454
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Speaker 4: I was Adam Silver. I'm calling people behind closed doors

455
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Speaker 4: into my office. I'm like, I don't care what problem

456
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:03,959
Speaker 4: you have with Caitlin Clark, and you can get over it.

457
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,800
Speaker 4: You guys exist because we allow you to exist in

458
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Speaker 4: terms of the money that we've put in, the funding

459
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Speaker 4: that we have put in for this league. You have

460
00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:16,080
Speaker 4: places to play because you're playing in NBA buildings and

461
00:24:16,119 --> 00:24:18,600
Speaker 4: all this other kind of stuff. You need to use

462
00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:23,760
Speaker 4: this opportunity to maximize profit to actually maybe be able

463
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Speaker 4: to grow the league through this individual, as opposed to

464
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Speaker 4: trying to cut her off at the knees left and right.

465
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Speaker 4: So I mean, I just feel like it's probably an

466
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Speaker 4: eyesore and it's probably a sore spot for a lot

467
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Speaker 4: of people in the NBA office if you actually gave

468
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Speaker 4: them true serum, they'd never say it out loud. But

469
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Speaker 4: you have to look at this and just say, man,

470
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Speaker 4: is the juice even worth to squeeze at this point

471
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Speaker 4: in time because they're not helping us, They're not doing

472
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Speaker 4: anything that's actually going to make anything better. They're actually

473
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Speaker 4: making everything worse. They haven't even done the most basic

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Speaker 4: of things to grow their league, and we're talking about expansion.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know what?

476
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Speaker 4: What is? What? What universe? Are these people living? Man?

477
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Speaker 3: It's amazing.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: It's funny you mentioned like, you know how many players

480
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Speaker 2: could the average person name? Obviously, I think that that

481
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Speaker 2: number is is obviously very small. I'd be curious, like

482
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Speaker 2: how many. I'm not trying to be a jerk about it,

483
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Speaker 2: but like there were let me put it this way,

484
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Speaker 2: after I saw the T shirts, I actually did tune

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Speaker 2: into the WNBA All Star Game.

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Speaker 3: Now, part of it was I knew we were coming

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Speaker 3: on air.

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Speaker 2: If this was a if I didn't work on Saturday

489
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Speaker 2: nights in sports talk radio, I wouldn't have rushed to

490
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Speaker 2: my TV.

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Speaker 3: But I bring it up.

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Speaker 2: Because I'll say, this is like, there are a lot

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Speaker 2: of girls I didn't really recognize, Like I think you

494
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Speaker 2: don't say, well, I'll say that because of what we do.

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Speaker 2: I do now know what Asia Wilson looks like. I

496
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Speaker 2: do know Page Beckers, obviously, I know Caitlin Clark, I

497
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Speaker 2: know Angel Yeah, yep, she's won Breonna Stewart. Okay, so

498
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Speaker 2: that's like six. There was a lot of girls there

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Speaker 2: who I'm sure lovely. Like I'm gonna say, this is

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Speaker 2: gonna make me a bad Husky Nofisa Collier played for

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Speaker 2: Ukon for four years. Ah, you know, you gave me

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Speaker 2: four w NBA players in one TV lineup. I don't

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Speaker 2: even know if I could uh pick pick her out.

504
00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,200
Speaker 2: And I think she's about to win the league MVP.

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Speaker 2: So it's kind of stated, not really, not really anything

506
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Speaker 2: that has to do with anything. It's just something that

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Speaker 2: popped up in my mind as I was thinking about this,

508
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Speaker 2: and as I was thinking about expansion, and as I

509
00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 2: was thinking about you know, we need more and we

510
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Speaker 2: need this and we need that. It's like, again, you know,

511
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Speaker 2: it's funny. We talked about this a few weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: Cayn Clark's played in Chicago on a Saturday night. Uh,

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Speaker 2: she doesn't play. Tickets drop. I forget what it was,

514
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Speaker 2: but I remember the get in price was like six bucks.

515
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Speaker 2: And then tonight, as I said, from Thursday, when she

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Speaker 2: was announced officially out to Friday, tickets dropped over fifty.

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Speaker 2: I wonder what they were. And again, I know this

518
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: is a very cliche point, but when we have a

519
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,240
Speaker 2: situation like this of pay us what you owe us,

520
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Speaker 2: it is.

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Speaker 3: Pretty mind boggling that there really is.

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Speaker 2: And I know we know this, but one girl that

523
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Speaker 2: moves the needle, and everybody else is just kind of

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Speaker 2: a replaceable part. And I think that plays into the

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Speaker 2: fact that, as you mentioned, we're now talking about expanding

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Speaker 2: a product that I don't think anybody really wants expansion

527
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Speaker 2: of us.

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Speaker 4: No. I mean again, like you you have one player,

529
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,600
Speaker 4: so you should probably be contracting the league in terms

530
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Speaker 4: of I'm talking about recognizable Again. It sounds harsh because

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Speaker 4: I understand these talent. These are talented women, I truly do, but.

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Speaker 1: It just matter.

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Speaker 2: There's very talented people in walks of life that we

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Speaker 2: don't care about, like and that don't get paid. I'm

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Speaker 2: trying to think of an analogy, and one's not coming

536
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:59,520
Speaker 2: to my head. But it's like there's probably, uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: there's really talented people that play the steel drums. They're

538
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 2: still playing on the sidewalk in Times Square, you know,

539
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: hoping to get a couple bucks, you know what I'm saying.

540
00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 2: And it's like, yeah that the point is is like,

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Speaker 2: it's great that you're talented, but to the core fundamental

542
00:28:14,080 --> 00:28:17,200
Speaker 2: part of this conversation, you have to have a talent

543
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Speaker 2: that is monetizable and that people care about.

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Speaker 3: If you're asking for more money.

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00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:24,080
Speaker 2: Now, you know the guy that plays steel drums, maybe

546
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Speaker 2: he just loves playing steel drums, maybe whatever, And maybe

547
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:28,960
Speaker 2: he or she's okay with Hey, I'm you know, I'm

548
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,280
Speaker 2: just doing this as a part time thing. These women

549
00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: are tangibly asking for more than they are already getting

550
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Speaker 2: in a situation where literally no one other than one

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Speaker 2: maybe too, if you include Angel Reese, actually create any revenue.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean that's right. I just I don't see

553
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Speaker 4: I don't see anyone. Well, I'm sure some people are,

554
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 4: but the general consensus that are listening to us right

555
00:28:55,520 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 4: now are just nodding in agreement, like nothing that we're

556
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Speaker 4: saying is potentially or or really even lukewarm as a take,

557
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,400
Speaker 4: like this is just basic reality, like all of this is.

558
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 4: And so wearing the shirts that try to get you

559
00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 4: more money in front of a public that doesn't probably

560
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 4: think that they may think that you're making more than

561
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,480
Speaker 4: you are, because to be honest, we understand you're not

562
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,239
Speaker 4: making a ton of money as a WNBA player, at

563
00:29:21,280 --> 00:29:23,479
Speaker 4: least based on your salary and all that kind of stuff.

564
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Speaker 4: But at the same time, I bet they still think

565
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:30,280
Speaker 4: you're overpaid, just because outside of Caitlyn Clark. I don't

566
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Speaker 4: think any I don't think any of them are draws

567
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Speaker 4: pretty much at all. Like name one as good a

568
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 4: player as Aja Wilson is, is she a draw? Like

569
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Speaker 4: if you just put her a picture up and said, hey,

570
00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,840
Speaker 4: they're playing X team on Saturday, I mean, what are

571
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:49,880
Speaker 4: the ratings going to be? Almost not at all, They're

572
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:52,760
Speaker 4: going to be non existent. So it's an unfortunate truth,

573
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 4: but it's a truth. Nonetheless. Unfortunately, if you're a fan

574
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:59,040
Speaker 4: of the WNBA or you're in that league, you still

575
00:29:59,080 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 4: don't have a league, but you do have a Tiger Woods,

576
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 4: but you're not taking advantage of it.

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Speaker 2: Don't disagree, by the way, I just looked it up

578
00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: for fun. The next Las Vegas Aces home game, twenty

579
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Speaker 2: three dollars getting priced, so and it's not a big

580
00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: aread to either. So it's just it is what it is.

581
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 2: We've been made enough to the WNBA girls. But again,

582
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,040
Speaker 2: when you wear T shirts for people just joining us,

583
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 2: WNBA All Star Game was Saturday night, the players, every

584
00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 2: player was doing it too, wearing T shirts that said

585
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Speaker 2: pay us what you owe us. Of course, they are

586
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 2: in the middle of CBA negotiations and Remember we are

587
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Speaker 2: in year thirty plus of the WNBA have yet to

588
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Speaker 2: turn a profit. Fox Sports Radio eritors Jason Martin broadcasting

589
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,440
Speaker 2: live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. One man who

590
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,920
Speaker 2: always earns his paycheck. Let's get it over the new

591
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,160
Speaker 2: to say, we gotta pay you what we owe you

592
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,480
Speaker 2: because you earn your paycheck. Tell us what we missed

593
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 2: besides the WNBA all start paycheck.

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Speaker 8: What is that you're talking about?

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Speaker 3: Oh, Anie Arnie didn't hit his stamp of approval.

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Speaker 9: This serios thinks he's in church. That's always good for

597
00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:05,600
Speaker 9: a chuckle. By the way, I love the fact that

598
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,880
Speaker 9: you brought up the word monetizable because that is so

599
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 9: key to this entire discussion, because teachers should be paid more. Unfortunately,

600
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 9: they do a job that's not monetizable. It's a public service.

601
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:24,640
Speaker 9: It makes society better. But it's not like you know

602
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:28,360
Speaker 9: those private stores where if they get big income then

603
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:31,480
Speaker 9: that you know, see where I'm going with this. Yeah,

604
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:34,160
Speaker 9: it's just you know, I could go to our industry.

605
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:37,560
Speaker 9: Not everybody who's making the most money on the air,

606
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,120
Speaker 9: radio or TV happens to be the best host. But

607
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 9: there's something monetizable out there. Not every football coach in

608
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,760
Speaker 9: the SEC is the best football coach in the whole country.

609
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:51,520
Speaker 9: But to say the least, the conference is monetizable. The

610
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:55,840
Speaker 9: NBA has an agreement with its players union to split

611
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 9: about fifty to fifty the basketball related income. Of course,

612
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 9: the new TV contract that starts next season for the

613
00:32:02,800 --> 00:32:06,120
Speaker 9: NBA is worth almost seven billion dollars a year.

614
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 8: Need we say more?

615
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:12,000
Speaker 9: We did have the WNBA All Star Game tonight, Team Collier,

616
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 9: a winner one fifty one to one thirty one, the

617
00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 9: FISA Collier Game MVP, scoring a record thirty six points.

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00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 9: I'll talk about this morn in an hour. But they

619
00:32:22,600 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 9: did have some other rules for tonight's game that aren't

620
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 9: regular season rules that picked up the pace and caused

621
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Speaker 9: more three point attempts and caused a whole lot more

622
00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 9: offense and in the end a record setting offensive total.

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Speaker 9: Scottie Scheffler leads the Open by four strokes. In Major

624
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Speaker 9: League Baseball, the Phillies Kyle Schwarber hit a Grand Slam

625
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 9: as thirty second homer this year. Phils beat the Angels

626
00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 9: nine to five. Well, the Mets were losers at home

627
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:50,840
Speaker 9: today five to two to the Reds, so the Philly

628
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 9: is now a game and a half over the Mets

629
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 9: in the L East. Toronto beat San Francisco sixty three.

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00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:56,160
Speaker 8: Today.

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Speaker 9: The Blue Jays are first in the AL East, still

632
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 9: three games over the Yanks, who hit a grand slam

633
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 9: top of the ninth. Trent Grisham Yankees won at Atlanta

634
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 9: twelve to nine. There are two late games. The Brewers

635
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:10,120
Speaker 9: now lead the Dodgers in LA eight to five. In

636
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Speaker 9: the top of the eighth, LA Shoheo Tani with a

637
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Speaker 9: two run homer his thirty third Seattle leads Houston four

638
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,760
Speaker 9: to two. In the top of the sixth inning, Houston

639
00:33:18,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 9: third baseman Essak Paradis left with an apparent hamstring injury.

640
00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,080
Speaker 9: The Cubs, in the Fox TV game for most of

641
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:27,640
Speaker 9: the country tonight, shut out Boston six Not think the

642
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:31,880
Speaker 9: Cubbies hit five solo homers. Arizona's au henne Yo Suarez

643
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 9: with two more long balls. He has thirty three. Arizona

644
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 9: beat Saint Louis ten to one. Wins for the A's

645
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 9: and the Rockies. Tampa Bay, with three in the bottom

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Speaker 9: of the eighth, beat Baltimore four to three. Texas sent

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Speaker 2: We'll talk about the you know, you think you think

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Speaker 2: the w NBA players sounded silly today? You know who

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Speaker 2: was silly? That astronomer CEO. We gotta talk about. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: we gotta talk about him. And there's a sports twist

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Speaker 2: to it that we will get to in just a moment.

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Speaker 3: Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 3: I yeah, yeah, we know what this is. It's coldplay.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah, By the way, I know, we're off WNBA.

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Speaker 2: We gotta get to cold play. Somebody just sent me

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Speaker 2: a picture. It was obviously photoshopped. It's the caption says,

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Speaker 2: if the WNBA actually paid them what they owed them,

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Speaker 2: and it's all the shirts say. Instead of pay us

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Speaker 2: what you owes, it says I owe the NBA money.

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Speaker 2: So those are the shirts that they should be wearing.

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Speaker 4: But I was thinking about it was just like, pay

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Speaker 4: you what we owe you. Well, then I guess it

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Speaker 4: means I'm not going to watch because I don't think

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Speaker 4: I owe you paying attention.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, or just I guess they're playing for free now

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Speaker 2: because nobody owes them anything, because right anyway, weak it's

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Speaker 2: cold Play, certainly, you know, I'll say this gotta be

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Speaker 2: the biggest story in just America this week.

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Speaker 4: I mean about that, but it's a big story.

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Speaker 2: Well, you know, I mean take out. I don't know politics,

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Speaker 2: I don't know.

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Speaker 4: I just know. I mean there's that one guy that

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Speaker 4: may or may not have killed himself a few years ago.

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Speaker 4: That was a pretty big story this week.

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Speaker 3: I guess this is all right. I don't know.

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Speaker 2: My wife literally was like I came home the other day,

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Speaker 2: she like, did you see this guy the concert? I'm like, yes,

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Speaker 2: I saw it at the concert, So we've all seen

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Speaker 2: by now, or most I would assume Coldplay concert what

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Speaker 2: would have been Wednesday night in Boston. Uh, there's you

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Speaker 2: know guy there just so happens to be a CEO.

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Speaker 2: He he was there with the head of his HR team,

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Speaker 2: Andy Byrom is his name.

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Speaker 3: Andy Byron is his name.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he got caught on the kiss cam with

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Speaker 2: his head of HR. He has since resigned, obviously. His

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Speaker 2: story is a few days old now why we're talking

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Speaker 2: about it. A little bit of the sports world has

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Speaker 2: certainly had some fun with this. I saw on Friday

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Speaker 2: night the Philly at the Phillies game. The Philly fanatic

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Speaker 2: they quote unquote caught him on the kiss cam and

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Speaker 2: you know, he tried to hide. The Savannah Bananas did something.

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Speaker 2: I want to give credit to Mike Mike mahilik In,

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Speaker 2: who of course is one of our listeners. We appreciate him.

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Speaker 2: He's out in Texas. He sent us a video as

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Speaker 2: well of one of these minor league teams. I can't

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Speaker 2: see which one, but they actually did the coldplay cam

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Speaker 2: and it was just everybody kind of doing the thing

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Speaker 2: where they're cuddling up and then they hide and all that.

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Speaker 2: America and I would say our sports teams have certainly

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Speaker 2: kind of run with this story. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: you have any bold takes on it, Jamart, but with

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Speaker 2: the baseball twist and the sports twist, I felt like

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Speaker 2: it was especially after we were so tough on the WNBA,

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Speaker 2: felt like it was a nice, nice way to end

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Speaker 2: the hour.

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Speaker 3: Do you have any strong.

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Speaker 2: Opinions on the Coldplay situation in Boston this week?

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Speaker 4: I wonder if anybody was just like, man, if you're

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Speaker 4: gonna do it, do it somewhere that's not Coldplay. Yeah

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Speaker 4: that seventh they kind of like Coldplay in twenty twenty five.

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Speaker 4: Oh sure, Yeah, you know what I'm saying, Like this

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Speaker 4: wasn't a post mall Own concert or something like that.

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Speaker 4: Like I imagine there were some people that made that joke.

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Speaker 4: But larger point. First off, the fact that it's an HR. Yes,

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Speaker 4: that's my big that's that's probably my first thing about

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Speaker 4: it is like, so the human research. I guess you

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Speaker 4: didn't think that it was going to be an HR

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Speaker 4: issue because a person that would have made it an

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Speaker 4: issue was actually involved. But yeah, not good, and like

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Speaker 4: you can't go somewhere to that public. I understand that

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Speaker 4: there's that many people. How are you going to get caught? Well,

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Speaker 4: you just are first off, you're doing something you shouldn't

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Speaker 4: be doing, so honestly, you getting away with it at

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Speaker 4: that point. Who knows. But I just in terms of

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Speaker 4: the sports side and mocking it, I don't know. Society

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Speaker 4: is so coarse now you just can't be surprised by it.

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Speaker 4: And at some point everybody laughed at this because it

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Speaker 4: was just so ridiculous and so over the top. And

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Speaker 4: so you know, the sports team's having fun with it

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Speaker 4: or whatever. Is it in great taste? No, And I

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Speaker 4: mean infidel and adultery is about as bad as it gets.

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Speaker 4: But in this case, the sports guy's doing this. I

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Speaker 4: think that the story had more of a tabloid field

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Speaker 4: than anything else, and so as a result, it kind

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Speaker 4: of was more of a cultural story than a news story.

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Speaker 4: It was more a Harvey Levin story than it was

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Speaker 4: something else. And so, you know, taking what was relevant

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Speaker 4: into culture and doing something with it at a sporting event.

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Speaker 4: I can understand why that would happen. I don't think

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Speaker 4: there would be a whole lot of people would say

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Speaker 4: that maybe we shouldn't do that. I don't really think so,

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Speaker 4: because I think most people were laughing at this story

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Speaker 4: more than shaking their head at it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously, look, you know, there's obviously families involved that

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Speaker 2: had nothing to do with it.

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Speaker 3: My big takeaways were a couple of things.

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Speaker 2: One, yeah, if you know, not in favor of marital infidelity.

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Speaker 2: I'm anti marital infidelity, just like I'm anti kicking.

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Speaker 3: All that, but.

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Speaker 2: Probably don't do it somewhere in front of seventy thousand

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Speaker 2: people the hr thing. The other thing I said this

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Speaker 2: the Oday, does anyone actually like kiss cam? Because kiss

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Speaker 2: cam is either yes, you're with your significant other and

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of pressure for the cameras, or it's

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Speaker 2: like an awkward first date, or you're in the friend zone,

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Speaker 2: or you're with somebody that you're not with.

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Speaker 3: It's just all weird.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio er Torist State Spart. We'll talk NFL next.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, Hour two tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio.

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Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

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Speaker 2: Busy hour one. If you missed it, pay us what

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Speaker 2: you owe us. That is what WNBA players had on

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Speaker 2: their T shirts in the lead up to the All

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Speaker 2: Star Game. Not a good look. Jay Martin and I

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Speaker 2: had plenty to say about that. We will revisit it

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Speaker 2: about an hour from now. Do you want to switch gears?

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Speaker 3: Though?

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Speaker 2: J mart Football, You hear it in the distance. It's coming.

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Speaker 2: We're getting close.

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: What we'll do about twenty minutes from now will start

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Speaker 2: our division by division previews, basically talking over unders for

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Speaker 2: all of these teams. We'll start with the a NFC

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Speaker 2: East excuse me home of course, the reigning Super Bowl champs,

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Speaker 2: the reigning NFC runners up, the raining dysfunctional you know

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Speaker 2: what's the Dallas Cowboys. So we'll yeah, I don't even

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Speaker 2: know what word I was going for there, but they

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Speaker 2: are dysfunctional. We'll do all that about twenty minutes from now,

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Speaker 2: let's send out a couple news and notes from this week.

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Speaker 2: I want to get to Terry McLaurin in a minute

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Speaker 2: before I do, though, Jay mart we didn't talk TJ.

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Speaker 2: Watt and hour one, right, Yeah, that was obviously what

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Speaker 2: wednes Thursday afternoon.

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Speaker 3: TJ. Watt agrees to a new deal.

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Speaker 2: Highest paid non quarterback in NFL history for the second

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Speaker 2: time in his career. He is staying with the Pittsburgh Steelers.

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Speaker 2: You know, I'm gonna throw it over to you. All

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Speaker 2: I'll say is I kind of felt like this was

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Speaker 2: a non story to me. Not not that it's not

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Speaker 2: a story, but when you sign Aaron Rodgers to be

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Speaker 2: your quarterback, right and you trade for DK Metcalf, besides

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00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:22,719
Speaker 2: the fact that you are a defensive oriented organization, you're

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Speaker 2: not gonna skimp on TJ.

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Speaker 3: Watt.

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Speaker 2: So I don't know if you have any opinions outside

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Speaker 2: of that. And I don't mean to steal the thunder

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Speaker 2: with my own, but I just feel like this was

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Speaker 2: something that was always gonna happen. I felt like it

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Speaker 2: was gonna happen for training camp open because you don't

816
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Speaker 2: need that hanging over your head. So it gets done

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Speaker 2: on Thursday. I'm not surprised. Is there any element of

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Speaker 2: this that surprises you?

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Speaker 4: No. I mean, I think that you were definitely going

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Speaker 4: to pay the guy. The question is what's it gonna mean.

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Speaker 4: They're clearly they seem to be going all in, like

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Speaker 4: they feel like they have to go ahead and do

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Speaker 4: this now, and and you know, good for him. I

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Speaker 4: still just don't. I just don't love that team this year.

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Speaker 4: I don't like him in that division, and I want

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Speaker 4: to know what the quarterback is going to do, And

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Speaker 4: if you ask me right now, I think it's going

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Speaker 4: to be underwhelmed. I think it's going to be at best,

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Speaker 4: he's going to be mediocre and we'll see kind of

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Speaker 4: how it goes. I mean, they brought in a guy

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Speaker 4: in DK Metcalf that you know he can have some

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Speaker 4: chemistry issues from time to time as well. And then

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Speaker 4: the only problem with t J. Watt has nothing to

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Speaker 4: do with him on the field. It's just he has

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Speaker 4: been banged up a little bit in the last couple

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Speaker 4: of years. Plays at a high level, but plays hard

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Speaker 4: and as a result sometimes you know, you can get

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Speaker 4: hurt and he has been. So you're committing to a

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Speaker 4: defensive side of the ball that I guess it is

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Speaker 4: going to win you some games. But how much is

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Speaker 4: it really going to win you? I think becomes sort

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Speaker 4: of the question. But in terms of it being a story, no,

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00:43:57,200 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 4: it's not a story. You pay TJ. Watt if you

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Speaker 4: have the pitch work steel is you have the opportunity

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Speaker 4: to pay TJ. Wytt, You pay TJ Watt.

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Speaker 2: So I agree with all of it. Let me ask

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Speaker 2: you quite. I actually asked Dan Byer this earlier in

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Speaker 2: the week. I get listen. Our job as sports you know,

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Speaker 2: sports talk commentators is to cover the biggest stories in sports.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I get that, but I have kind of looked.

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Speaker 2: At this differently that when I say that this, I

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Speaker 2: mean the topic of summer holdouts. I remember about three

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Speaker 2: four years ago I was I was in with Rob

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Speaker 2: Parker and Rob brought up what I thought was a

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Speaker 2: great point. He said, every single year, there's two three

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Speaker 2: four guys. Last year was Trent Williams, Brandon Ayuk, other

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Speaker 2: years it was Kyler Murray.

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Speaker 3: It was this guy.

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Speaker 2: Was that every single year there's somebody, Oh my god,

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Speaker 2: are they gonna get a deal? What if they don't

861
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Speaker 2: get a deal? Will they get a deal? And they

862
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,040
Speaker 2: always end up getting a deal. I'm just scared. Do

863
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,479
Speaker 2: you remember, like, because again we have to talk about TJ.

864
00:44:55,560 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 3: Watt.

865
00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:57,800
Speaker 2: I get it, We're gonna talk about Terry McLaurin in

866
00:44:57,880 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 2: a minute. But our are there examples of guys that

867
00:45:01,719 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 2: didn't ultimately get the deal? Because it feels like we

868
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 2: always spill a lot of ink on this in the

869
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,000
Speaker 2: summertime and stuff always ends up getting done.

870
00:45:09,400 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, I can't really like nothing comes to mind. I

871
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 4: mean not really. Usually this stuff gets worked out. I

872
00:45:17,840 --> 00:45:21,000
Speaker 4: remember like the Deebo Samuel deal and well that year,

873
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 4: remember it was AJ Brown and it was McLaurin the

874
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:26,120
Speaker 4: first time around, it was like all the receivers, the

875
00:45:26,200 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 4: DK Metcalf and all these guys just like, well, who's

876
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 4: gonna leave. Well, not that all of them have ended

877
00:45:31,680 --> 00:45:34,359
Speaker 4: up in the same spot, but generally speaking, they've all

878
00:45:34,400 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 4: been taken care of somewhere. And yeah, like most of

879
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,919
Speaker 4: the time, when it's a no brainer player, it gets

880
00:45:41,960 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 4: worked out, and you realize when you start to look

881
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,880
Speaker 4: at the clock there's a lot of time before the

882
00:45:46,920 --> 00:45:50,960
Speaker 4: season starts. There's not really any rush to get it

883
00:45:51,000 --> 00:45:54,280
Speaker 4: done immediately. You just have to get it done in time.

884
00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:56,800
Speaker 4: And a lot of these guys have no problem waiting

885
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 4: it out a little bit longer because it gives them

886
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:00,799
Speaker 4: the ability not to have to be quite as soon.

887
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 2: Interesting stuff there with TJ Watte, he is officially back

888
00:46:06,719 --> 00:46:11,080
Speaker 2: to your point, jmart I just I'm not excited about

889
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers at all this year.

890
00:46:12,800 --> 00:46:16,120
Speaker 4: Dude, I'm on record and I'm not changing it. I

891
00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:18,920
Speaker 4: believe they will finish under five hundred this year. I

892
00:46:18,920 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 4: believe it's gonna be. I believe that that will be

893
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,440
Speaker 4: the storyline that they're just not very good.

894
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 3: Let me ask you a question.

895
00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 2: If they finish under five hundred, do you think that

896
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 2: would finally be the year where Mike Tomlin either actively

897
00:46:35,360 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: chooses to leave or I don't think the organization would

898
00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 2: fire him. But you never know, because my whole thing

899
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,080
Speaker 2: is like they this is like the thing that they

900
00:46:45,120 --> 00:46:49,160
Speaker 2: are holding on to. Well, you know, we're not really

901
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,360
Speaker 2: a contender, but we're not terrible either, and we always

902
00:46:54,360 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 2: finish above five hundred. And it's like, if they do

903
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:59,360
Speaker 2: finish below five hundred, like put aside the Aaron Rodgers

904
00:46:59,400 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: element of it, obviously, I think that would mean the

905
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 2: end of his career. I'm just curious, do you think

906
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:07,480
Speaker 2: that that would mean the end of Mike Tomlin in

907
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh because that feels like the only it's like the

908
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 2: you know, marriage, where like they're holding on because the

909
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:16,040
Speaker 2: kids still in high school and it's like.

910
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 3: Well, you know, we'll reevaluate, you know whatever.

911
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,000
Speaker 2: I guess the point I'm trying to make is it

912
00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 2: feels like that's the thing that's holding them together. Is

913
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,880
Speaker 2: I mean, you can't fire Mike Tomlin always has a

914
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,920
Speaker 2: winning record, always has he in the conversation for the playoffs,

915
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,400
Speaker 2: and it's like, if they actually do go five hundred,

916
00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,960
Speaker 2: I feel like that would be the time that you

917
00:47:34,080 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: finally got to make a move and admit and start over.

918
00:47:36,800 --> 00:47:38,840
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, I mean it might be time to rebuild,

919
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:40,600
Speaker 4: and it might be time for a change of scenery

920
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:44,520
Speaker 4: for Tomlin, for him to go somewhere else. I would

921
00:47:44,600 --> 00:47:48,480
Speaker 4: say that because Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback, a lot

922
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:53,000
Speaker 4: of it may fall on him because at this point

923
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,520
Speaker 4: I don't think that there is any kind of toughlong

924
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 4: coding around him anymore in any way, shape or form.

925
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:01,200
Speaker 4: We saw what happened with the Jets, so you say

926
00:48:01,239 --> 00:48:03,120
Speaker 4: that's the Jets. Well, if he goes to the Steelers

927
00:48:03,160 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 4: and he doesn't play as well as Russell Wilson did

928
00:48:05,320 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 4: a year ago, then it's gonna be him. It's not

929
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 4: gonna be all this other stuff. It's gonna be Yeah,

930
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 4: his skills diminished, he got older, maybe he tuned out

931
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,640
Speaker 4: a little bit of football here and there. The question

932
00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,560
Speaker 4: will just be again and this was gonna be true

933
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:23,120
Speaker 4: with the Jets, but especially in Pittsburgh, Like, if it

934
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 4: doesn't go well early, is he gonna stay engaged? Apparently

935
00:48:27,520 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 4: he loves Mike Tomlin. Mike Tomlin loves him, so maybe

936
00:48:30,680 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 4: it's gonna be a marriage that works in that respect.

937
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:35,760
Speaker 4: But I do think that there is cover for Tomlin

938
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,759
Speaker 4: in that Aaron Rodgers changes everything, and I don't know

939
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:41,480
Speaker 4: that it means for the better, because we got to

940
00:48:41,520 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 4: see what he looks like on the field and how

941
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,800
Speaker 4: he's working with whatever the unit's gonna be on offense

942
00:48:46,840 --> 00:48:49,120
Speaker 4: for them. Is he going to be protected or is

943
00:48:49,120 --> 00:48:51,319
Speaker 4: this gonna be a scenario where a lot of it

944
00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,399
Speaker 4: is just gonna fall on him and you're just gonna say, Okay,

945
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 4: he's just not the guy that he once was or

946
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,919
Speaker 4: even fifty percent of that. And that's kind of where

947
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 4: I land is. I just don't think he is going

948
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 4: to prove out to still be particularly good. I'm not

949
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:06,399
Speaker 4: saying it's gonna be a bad quarterback, but I think

950
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 4: at best he's gonna be average. And you can't get

951
00:49:10,760 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 4: what you need out of an average Aaron Rodgers or

952
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 4: an average anybody at this stage of the game. And

953
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,719
Speaker 4: I think that's gonna that's going to prove a lot.

954
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 4: And if tom Win handles himself the way Toman always does.

955
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 4: Then he could come back. He may not want to,

956
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,920
Speaker 4: though it might be Tom to step away or retire,

957
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 4: even go do something else. But you are getting to

958
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: the point, if you are the Steelers, where you've got

959
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 4: to hit the reset. But I agree because you haven't

960
00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:38,280
Speaker 4: been able to find a quarterback.

961
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:43,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it just feels like I get like again I do.

962
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:48,359
Speaker 2: I'll say I'm a little bit more understanding of guy

963
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 2: has won a Super Bowl, dealt with a lot of

964
00:49:51,600 --> 00:49:54,879
Speaker 2: nonsense clearly behind the scenes, and the team is never

965
00:49:54,920 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 2: an embarrassment. So like, I think there are some that

966
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:58,799
Speaker 2: are like you should have moved off of them three

967
00:49:58,880 --> 00:50:01,840
Speaker 2: years ago. And I actually do sort of understand that argument,

968
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:04,839
Speaker 2: especially when you consider how long it's been since they've

969
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 2: actually been a true contender. But I also understand the

970
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,600
Speaker 2: other side of you know, how many can't miss you know,

971
00:50:11,760 --> 00:50:14,640
Speaker 2: young guys or you know who would even want the

972
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: job if you're starting over, you don't have a quarterback whatever.

973
00:50:17,480 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 2: Really quickly, we're gonna in about ten minutes from now,

974
00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:24,360
Speaker 2: start talking NFC East and do some over understuff. And

975
00:50:24,400 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 2: speaking of NFC East, the the other marquee holdout prior

976
00:50:28,120 --> 00:50:34,000
Speaker 2: to t J. Watt committing long term? Is is Terry McLaurin.

977
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:38,240
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin, of course, with the Washington Commanders, five straight

978
00:50:38,320 --> 00:50:41,960
Speaker 2: seasons of over one thousand yards receiving, going into the

979
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,520
Speaker 2: last year of his deal, he wants a new deal.

980
00:50:46,040 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 2: I'm a little dubious that this one gets gets to

981
00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:51,640
Speaker 2: a place where he doesn't ultimately get it. But you

982
00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:54,640
Speaker 2: know what, before we get to the Terry McLaurin conversation, Ian,

983
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:56,800
Speaker 2: do we have the sound of Terry McLaurin. Let's go

984
00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:58,319
Speaker 2: ahead and play Terry McLaurin right now.

985
00:50:58,520 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 10: I've been pretty frustrated. I'm not going to Everything that

986
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,880
Speaker 10: has transpired up to this point has been disappointing and frustrating.

987
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,440
Speaker 10: I wanted to continue my career here. I've created my

988
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:10,840
Speaker 10: life here. This has been somewhere where I've always wanted

989
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 10: to be.

990
00:51:12,239 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 2: All Right, So I have a take on that. That

991
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,239
Speaker 2: was Terry McLaurin talking about his contract status with the

992
00:51:16,320 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders. Before I get to my thoughts on it,

993
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:20,800
Speaker 2: I would love to hear your perspective, Jamin.

994
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Look, I think mclaurin's really good and he's finally

995
00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:27,360
Speaker 4: got a quarterback that can get him the ball consistently,

996
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:30,759
Speaker 4: and he kind of showed again last year what he

997
00:51:30,920 --> 00:51:34,680
Speaker 4: can do in the right offense, especially where he's being maximized.

998
00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:40,040
Speaker 4: I think that right now the key has to be,

999
00:51:40,239 --> 00:51:42,920
Speaker 4: we got to maximize this time we have with Jaden Daniels.

1000
00:51:43,200 --> 00:51:47,480
Speaker 4: We've got to make absolutely certain that we get the

1001
00:51:47,480 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 4: most out of this before we have to open up

1002
00:51:49,800 --> 00:51:52,680
Speaker 4: that bank account and back up the brinks truck to

1003
00:51:52,760 --> 00:51:55,319
Speaker 4: make him our guide long term. Right now, you've got

1004
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 4: him in that beautiful window where you can do a

1005
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:00,440
Speaker 4: lot around him and hopefully you can win with him

1006
00:52:00,440 --> 00:52:03,440
Speaker 4: a couple of times where you've already really won with

1007
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 4: the investment and things like that. You've got a shot

1008
00:52:05,960 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 4: right now with him being you know, on the cusp

1009
00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 4: of you know, top five ish status in the league.

1010
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 4: If he continues to progress in terms of his quarterback level,

1011
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:18,080
Speaker 4: you just you've got to give him every weapon. And

1012
00:52:18,120 --> 00:52:20,920
Speaker 4: they have done some things here in this offseason, but

1013
00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,719
Speaker 4: the one thing that you can't do is have that

1014
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:27,160
Speaker 4: guy be unhappy with what's going on, because they did

1015
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,879
Speaker 4: have a good synergy last year and I just don't

1016
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,880
Speaker 4: think you want to wreck that shop. And because you

1017
00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:34,040
Speaker 4: have him on a rookie deal. You just you gotta

1018
00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:35,240
Speaker 4: find a way to make this happen.

1019
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's actually my exact takeaway is this would

1020
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,720
Speaker 2: have been the same conversation if we had talked J TJ.

1021
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:43,799
Speaker 2: Watt excuse me, the last couple of weeks, I would

1022
00:52:43,800 --> 00:52:46,680
Speaker 2: have said the same thing is that you don't In

1023
00:52:46,719 --> 00:52:49,360
Speaker 2: the case of the Steelers, you don't sign Aaron Rodgers

1024
00:52:49,400 --> 00:52:51,560
Speaker 2: and trade for DK Metcalf and I don't even mention

1025
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,120
Speaker 2: you trade for Jalen Ramsey as well, and then not

1026
00:52:54,239 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 2: pay TJ.

1027
00:52:55,719 --> 00:52:56,040
Speaker 4: Watt.

1028
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,600
Speaker 2: And it's the same with McLaurin. Is he's great at

1029
00:52:58,600 --> 00:53:02,520
Speaker 2: what he does. He's been a commander, slash redskin his

1030
00:53:02,680 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: entire career by all accounts. You know, good guy, good

1031
00:53:05,960 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 2: locker room guy, all that, and I just think it

1032
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:08,960
Speaker 2: comes down I just don't.

1033
00:53:09,320 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: It's the same thing I just said with TJ. Watt.

1034
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 2: You don't trade for Deebo Samuel, you don't sign von

1035
00:53:15,080 --> 00:53:16,719
Speaker 2: Miller who I know, it's only a one year deal.

1036
00:53:16,760 --> 00:53:19,440
Speaker 2: You can get out of it quickly. They clearly believe

1037
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,399
Speaker 2: that last year was not a fluke, that they are

1038
00:53:23,560 --> 00:53:26,800
Speaker 2: a team that can compete, especially with Jydon Daniels on

1039
00:53:26,840 --> 00:53:30,000
Speaker 2: this rookie contract. So I actually don't have a tonhels

1040
00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 2: to add. I think, to me, my sentiment is a

1041
00:53:34,080 --> 00:53:34,720
Speaker 2: lot like yours.

1042
00:53:34,760 --> 00:53:35,160
Speaker 3: J Mart.

1043
00:53:36,160 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 2: You have Jane and Daniels on a rookie contract, You

1044
00:53:38,120 --> 00:53:40,840
Speaker 2: have made all of these other moves that reflect that

1045
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,000
Speaker 2: you believe you can win right now. I don't It

1046
00:53:44,040 --> 00:53:46,839
Speaker 2: doesn't make sense to me why you wouldn't eventually pay

1047
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:49,680
Speaker 2: Terry McLaurin. You know, I don't know if it's the

1048
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:52,200
Speaker 2: highest paid wide receiver all. I don't know what that

1049
00:53:52,239 --> 00:53:54,839
Speaker 2: looks like. But just in general, I don't know how

1050
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:56,359
Speaker 2: this doesn't get done sometime soon.

1051
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it will. Again, I think you got

1052
00:53:58,880 --> 00:54:04,080
Speaker 4: plenty of time. Everybody's leveraging this thing. And what mclauren said,

1053
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 4: I think he will get his money. And I think

1054
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 4: that you know, they're going to go into the season

1055
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 4: and it's going to be them and the Eagles. We

1056
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,440
Speaker 4: haven't done the over under. We will, but I mean,

1057
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:14,920
Speaker 4: I think we all look at that and say, I

1058
00:54:14,920 --> 00:54:16,920
Speaker 4: think it's a two team race. I'll due respect to

1059
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 4: the Dallas fans out there, but I mean, let's be

1060
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 4: serious here, Like we have to have integrity on this program.

1061
00:54:23,480 --> 00:54:25,600
Speaker 2: Well, I'll tell you what we'll do that next. I

1062
00:54:25,640 --> 00:54:27,959
Speaker 2: think Dallas fans are the most realistic about the state

1063
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:28,560
Speaker 2: of their team.

1064
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:29,839
Speaker 4: But yeah, that's probably true.

1065
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 3: Actually, yes, Well, we're going to come back.

1066
00:54:32,120 --> 00:54:35,719
Speaker 2: When we do, we're going to start our division by

1067
00:54:35,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 2: division previews. We're right around eight weeks away to the

1068
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 2: start of the NFL season. We're going to start with

1069
00:54:41,719 --> 00:54:45,400
Speaker 2: the NFC East, home of the Super Bowl champion Philadelphia Eagles,

1070
00:54:45,800 --> 00:54:47,879
Speaker 2: Washington Commanders, Dallas Cowboys. By the way, if you want

1071
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,520
Speaker 2: to share your thoughts on any of those teams, if

1072
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 2: you're a Cowboys fan listening, go ahead check us out

1073
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:56,840
Speaker 2: at Aaron ud score Torres on Twitter and j Mart Radio.

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Speaker 2: We will come back. We will talk NFC East, will

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Speaker 2: do some over unders.

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Speaker 3: Quick break, be right back, Welcome back, everybody.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Eric tords Day Smartro broadcasting live from

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Speaker 2: pop up at the top of your screen. All right,

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00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:42,799
Speaker 2: So it is July technically July twentieth on the East Coast,

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00:55:42,840 --> 00:55:47,359
Speaker 2: July nineteenth. Everywhere else training camps, chargers have reported. There's

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Speaker 2: a couple other teams that reported today, and by the

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Speaker 2: end of the week, everybody will have reported. So what

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00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 2: we did this time last year was we went ahead

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00:55:55,680 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: and basically previewed every single team the over underwin total.

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Speaker 3: Now, Jmart, we did tallly these.

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Speaker 2: I don't think we ever actually saw who ended up

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Speaker 2: having more right selections and wrong selections. But I bring

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00:56:10,239 --> 00:56:12,720
Speaker 2: it up because we're going to go division by division

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00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:14,400
Speaker 2: over the next eight weeks.

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Speaker 3: In the lead up.

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Speaker 2: Two week one, I think it's only appropriate that we

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Speaker 2: start with the NFC East, home of the reigning Super

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Speaker 2: Bowl chap So, Mary, give us a little music. Ian

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00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:29,400
Speaker 2: producer Ian tell us who we're talking about. First, I

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00:56:29,400 --> 00:56:32,000
Speaker 2: can take a guess who has the highest over underwin

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00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:33,960
Speaker 2: total in that division?

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Speaker 11: We can we can start with that, and that would

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00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 11: be the Philadelphia Eagles. Now, I actually do have your

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00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 11: guys's results from last year.

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00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:44,920
Speaker 3: Tell us right now, we need to know what's at

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Speaker 3: stake this year.

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00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:50,400
Speaker 11: So it looks like if we go to the NFC specifically, Aaron,

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00:56:50,560 --> 00:56:53,319
Speaker 11: you went three and one in the division. Jmrd, you

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00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:55,120
Speaker 11: actually went four and oh last year?

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Speaker 4: Oh look at that.

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Speaker 3: What did I take Philly under?

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00:56:58,160 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 11: Looks like you went Philly under yep, and that was

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00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,240
Speaker 11: your one l in the division.

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00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,720
Speaker 2: I was not high on. Do you have the actual

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00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,080
Speaker 2: over under win totals from last year? Like the number

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Speaker 2: that we gave out, Yeah, Philly was ten and a

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00:57:10,120 --> 00:57:10,800
Speaker 2: half wins?

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Speaker 3: Okay, and what about everybody else? I'm just curious.

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Speaker 11: Let's see, the Cowboys were over under nine and a half,

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Speaker 11: Commanders six and a half. The under heck of a

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Speaker 11: line there for the Commanders six and a half and

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Speaker 11: a half, Giants over under six and a half as well.

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Speaker 3: All right, well, now we know it's at stake. I

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Speaker 3: went three and one.

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Speaker 2: I gotta go four and oh this year, tell us,

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Speaker 2: what's so Philadelphia is how many?

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Speaker 3: What was it this year? Is eleven and a half?

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Speaker 3: All right?

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Speaker 2: J marts, it's your the reigning champ of the NFC

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Speaker 2: East Oh my god, you know everything. Why don't you

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Speaker 2: just go ahead and go first?

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Speaker 4: All right? So who are we going with first? Again?

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Speaker 8: Eagles?

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Speaker 4: Eagles And it was what eleven and a half?

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Speaker 3: Eleven and a half?

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Speaker 8: Correct, eleven and a half.

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Speaker 4: So the teams this year they're playing the AFC West

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Speaker 4: in the NFC North. Yes, that's not great.

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Speaker 3: I noticed that. Yes that is.

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Speaker 4: That is not great. But the Eagles are. You're defending

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Speaker 4: champs for a reason, and it's not like they've gotten

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Speaker 4: progressively worse. I think the whole thing's gonna come down

1147
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Speaker 4: to whether or not, specifically Sakuon, Barkley and Jay when

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Speaker 4: Hurts can get through the season without getting banged up.

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Speaker 4: Sae Quon's had his injuries in the past, but last

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00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,280
Speaker 4: year he was super healthy. If Herts is able to

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Speaker 4: stay healthy as well, I see no reason why they

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Speaker 4: couldn't do it. It's a tough schedule, and of course they'll

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Speaker 4: be playing a first place schedule, but like I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: say over, I'm gonna say over.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna say over to because yes, the schedule

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Speaker 2: is insane. I mean, even before the end of September

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Speaker 2: at kc Rams at home at Tampa. Now there's also

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Speaker 2: the season opener on a Thursday against the Dallas Cowboys,

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Speaker 2: which I think they'll take care of business. They do

1160
00:58:56,520 --> 00:58:58,960
Speaker 2: get ten days off before that Super Bowl rematch in

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00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,320
Speaker 2: KSE and then oh, by the way, they close with

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00:59:02,400 --> 00:59:06,200
Speaker 2: how about this final three? At Washington at Buffalo, at

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Speaker 2: Washington at home. So a lot of tough games right

1164
00:59:09,680 --> 00:59:11,360
Speaker 2: at the start, a lot of tough games right at

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Speaker 2: the finish. You also get Lions at home, at Packers

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00:59:14,440 --> 00:59:20,520
Speaker 2: at Chargers. It's a very tough schedule. But over under

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Speaker 2: of eleven and a half. It's hard for me to

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Speaker 2: see them going eleven and six. That's you know, so

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00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,480
Speaker 2: to me, I don't. I think the defense is so

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00:59:31,600 --> 00:59:34,400
Speaker 2: good that even if Saquon takes the natural step back,

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00:59:35,080 --> 00:59:36,640
Speaker 2: and even if Jalen Hurts takes a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a step back, I think the defense is so good

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Speaker 2: I think it wins them a bunch of games. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna go over as well. Who's up next to you?

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Speaker 3: Next up?

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Speaker 11: Let's do the Dallas Cowboys. They're over under set at

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Speaker 11: seven and a half.

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Speaker 4: Good grief, that's low. It is, I mean for a

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Speaker 4: Dallas team that is awfully low. But you look at it.

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00:59:58,440 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 4: What do they have that's it's really winnable based on

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Speaker 4: the team that we think they're fielding, plus this new

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Speaker 4: head coach. They're gonna lose to the Eagles in Week one.

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Speaker 4: They might beat the Giants that Bears game. I don't

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Speaker 4: love that for them Green Bay, I don't love that

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Speaker 4: for them. Jets, I think they would win that. Panthers,

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Speaker 4: I think they would win that. But I'm like looking

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Speaker 4: down the schedules, like, what's guaranteed. They've got one run

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01:00:22,840 --> 01:00:29,120
Speaker 4: from November the twenty third through December through pretty much

1189
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Speaker 4: the end of the season. Outside of their last game

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Speaker 4: they go Eagles, Chiefs at Lions, Vikings, Chargers at Commanders.

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01:00:37,160 --> 01:00:39,440
Speaker 4: I'm gonna take it under. I'm gonna take the under here.

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Speaker 4: I do not think they will win seven and a

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Speaker 4: half games.

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Speaker 3: Seven and a half is the number one.

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Speaker 4: I know they won't win seven and a half games,

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Speaker 4: but they're not gonna win eight.

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Speaker 3: Games any seven and a half. And these are bet

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Speaker 3: MGM lines.

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Speaker 2: By the way, if anyone could do it, it's the

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Speaker 2: Cowboys hitting that half total. So a couple thoughts here,

1201
01:00:54,160 --> 01:00:55,560
Speaker 2: So I went back and looked it up because I

1202
01:00:55,600 --> 01:00:58,439
Speaker 2: think there's a little bit of a revisionist history on

1203
01:00:58,680 --> 01:00:59,920
Speaker 2: like how things started.

1204
01:01:01,160 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 3: They were three and five with Dak healthy.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that included, by the way, a blowout home loss

1206
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,320
Speaker 2: to the New Orleans Saints among other teams. I lost

1207
01:01:13,360 --> 01:01:15,720
Speaker 2: their schedule here for half a second, give me a second,

1208
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:18,160
Speaker 2: but yeah. They went three and five to open the

1209
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,360
Speaker 2: season last year, and again blowout loss to New Orleans,

1210
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,280
Speaker 2: a quote unquote close went to Baltimore, or close loss

1211
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: to Baltimore where they had to rally destroyed by the Lions.

1212
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,440
Speaker 2: We all remember that game. The Lions were running fake

1213
01:01:31,520 --> 01:01:36,680
Speaker 2: reverse double whatevers. The point I'm trying to make they

1214
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Speaker 2: were three and five with Dak. They have downgraded at coach,

1215
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:44,040
Speaker 2: which is kind of incredible because Mike McCarthy, you know,

1216
01:01:44,480 --> 01:01:48,040
Speaker 2: wasn't exactly Vince Lombardi and listen, and we talked about

1217
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:49,680
Speaker 2: this at the time, Jay mart I vividly remember talking

1218
01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,240
Speaker 2: about it. George Pickens couldn't get along and fall in

1219
01:01:54,240 --> 01:01:56,720
Speaker 2: line with Mike Tomlin and it's like, say what you

1220
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:58,880
Speaker 2: want about Mike Tomlin, and we said it all last segment.

1221
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:01,400
Speaker 3: In general, he.

1222
01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,640
Speaker 2: Is able to keep you know, if hot heads the

1223
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:05,920
Speaker 2: right word, I don't know what the right word is.

1224
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Speaker 4: But dude, Antonio Brown. People didn't know Antonio Brown was nuts. Yes,

1225
01:02:11,360 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 4: until you see what's happened since Yes, and.

1226
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Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I'm gonna actually, you know, I have

1228
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 2: a feeling we're gonna think identically on a lot of these.

1229
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 2: But I gotta go under of seven and a half. Seven,

1230
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 2: you know, seven and ten feels about right, because where

1231
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 2: where are they better than last year? I don't trust Dak.

1232
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 2: I think the coaching is going to be worse. So

1233
01:02:37,800 --> 01:02:39,880
Speaker 2: give me the under of seven and a half. We'll

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01:02:39,920 --> 01:02:44,400
Speaker 2: come back. We'll look at the Washington Commanders and the

1235
01:02:44,440 --> 01:02:47,080
Speaker 2: New York Football Giants, the team only a mother could love.

1236
01:02:47,120 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 2: We'll discuss them next for you do though, let's get

1237
01:02:49,320 --> 01:02:52,240
Speaker 2: it over the news desk, Steve Desager, what is trending, guys?

1238
01:02:52,280 --> 01:02:55,520
Speaker 9: The decision is in Many. Pakiaw was fighting tonight in

1239
01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:59,120
Speaker 9: Las Vegas. Yes, he had four years off that Many Pacio,

1240
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:03,120
Speaker 9: at age forty six, has fought to a draw against

1241
01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:08,480
Speaker 9: Mario Barrios, who keeps his WBC welterweight title. Two judges

1242
01:03:08,520 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 9: had the scoring one fourteen to one fourteen.

1243
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:13,200
Speaker 8: The other scored it for Barrios.

1244
01:03:13,440 --> 01:03:15,600
Speaker 2: As Ian just asked me how soon until Jake Paul

1245
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:17,959
Speaker 2: is online one with Minikak Real quick?

1246
01:03:18,040 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 4: Long, I that's about ten more years.

1247
01:03:20,320 --> 01:03:22,680
Speaker 3: I hate to ask this. Yeah, it is probably about.

1248
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 4: That's the Shane Gillis joke, but it's still accurate.

1249
01:03:26,520 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 3: Real quick.

1250
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:29,840
Speaker 2: Was this a money thing? I hate to ask, but

1251
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:32,280
Speaker 2: I know Pacquiao. You know he helps a lot of people.

1252
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,960
Speaker 3: I mean, has it? Has it come out? Is he

1253
01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:36,680
Speaker 3: just doing it for the love of the game or

1254
01:03:36,680 --> 01:03:37,040
Speaker 3: does he.

1255
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 8: That's exactly what it sounds like.

1256
01:03:38,640 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 3: Actually good for him.

1257
01:03:40,320 --> 01:03:45,200
Speaker 9: His career record is sixty two to eight with three draws. Now, wow,

1258
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,959
Speaker 9: that is an enormous amount of fights. Age forty six,

1259
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,720
Speaker 9: sixteen years older than his opponent tonight. And meanwhile, we've

1260
01:03:53,760 --> 01:03:57,880
Speaker 9: got UFC three eighteen's finale coming up with the champ

1261
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:03,040
Speaker 9: Max Hollyway again Stuston in New Orleans tonight for one

1262
01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:07,440
Speaker 9: last time for him. Boxer Alexander Usik won in London today.

1263
01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:11,400
Speaker 9: He's the undisputed heavyweight champion, owning all four title belts now.

1264
01:04:11,640 --> 01:04:14,160
Speaker 9: He knocked out Daniel Dubois from England in the fifth

1265
01:04:14,240 --> 01:04:18,120
Speaker 9: round attendance at Wimbley Stadium. Was about ninety thousand. Usik

1266
01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:22,120
Speaker 9: has already beaten former champs Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury

1267
01:04:22,240 --> 01:04:25,800
Speaker 9: twice each. The next IndyCar Race is Sunday on Fox

1268
01:04:25,840 --> 01:04:29,840
Speaker 9: TV on the Streets of Toronto, and then Women's Soccer

1269
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:34,120
Speaker 9: Euros semifinals on Fox Tuesday, England against Italy, and then

1270
01:04:34,160 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 9: on Wednesday it'll be Germany against defending World Cup champion Spain.

1271
01:04:38,040 --> 01:04:41,400
Speaker 9: The Germans won on penalty kicks to finish the quarterfinals today,

1272
01:04:41,440 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 9: eliminating France. In Major League Soccer, two more goals for

1273
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 9: Lionel Messi Miami, a five to one winner against New York.

1274
01:04:48,120 --> 01:04:51,240
Speaker 9: The WNBA All Star Game was its highest scoring ever,

1275
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,840
Speaker 9: one fifty one to one thirty one. Team Collier takes

1276
01:04:55,840 --> 01:04:59,440
Speaker 9: it over Team Caitlin Clark. Clark, of course injured Nafisa

1277
01:04:59,520 --> 01:05:03,320
Speaker 9: Collier Game MVP, scoring a record thirty six points. Scotty

1278
01:05:03,400 --> 01:05:06,280
Speaker 9: Scheffler leads the Open by four strokes after a third

1279
01:05:06,360 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 9: round sixty seven in Northern Ireland. Scheffler, the last ten

1280
01:05:10,040 --> 01:05:13,600
Speaker 9: times he's led after fifty four holes, has won the event.

1281
01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: He took the.

1282
01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:17,680
Speaker 9: PGA Championship in May. Scheffler has been ranked number one

1283
01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:21,919
Speaker 9: in the world longer than anyone since Tiger Woods. Rory

1284
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:24,560
Speaker 9: McElroy shot sixty six moved up to a tie for

1285
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:26,800
Speaker 9: fourth place. He was tied for twelve, so he's gone

1286
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Speaker 9: from seven shots back to six back. Sergio Garcia had

1287
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,080
Speaker 9: barely made the cut for the weekend. He's tied for

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01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:34,520
Speaker 9: fifty first. Bryson to Shamba up to a tie for

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Speaker 9: thirty fourth. Now Phil Mickelson shot seventy six overseas he

1290
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:41,840
Speaker 9: is tied for sixty sixth place, And we've got one

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Speaker 9: ball game still going. Houston holding on five to four

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Speaker 9: at Seattle in the bottom of the eighth inning. Milwaukee

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01:05:48,320 --> 01:05:51,760
Speaker 9: has won its ninth straight game. In that winning streak,

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01:05:51,800 --> 01:05:55,840
Speaker 9: they've beaten the Dodgers five straight times, including in La

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01:05:55,880 --> 01:05:59,720
Speaker 9: again tonight eight seven over the Dodgers, even though show

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01:05:59,760 --> 01:06:02,680
Speaker 9: Hail he hit a two run homer, his thirty third

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Speaker 9: of the season. Colorado and the A's with wins Arizona

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Speaker 9: ten to one over Saint Louis. The cub shut out

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Speaker 9: Boston six nothing in Tampa Bay with three runs bottom

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Speaker 9: of the eighth, beat Baltimore four to three, and finally

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Speaker 9: the Yankees in quite a ballgame one at Atlanta twelve nine. Tonight,

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Speaker 9: Trent Grisham a grand slam top of the ninth. The

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Speaker 9: Yankees were down five nothing going to the fifth inning

1304
01:06:25,160 --> 01:06:29,000
Speaker 9: Anthony Volpe with two homers. The Yankees rally from five

1305
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:33,160
Speaker 9: to nothing down well, that's pretty rare in their history

1306
01:06:33,200 --> 01:06:36,720
Speaker 9: to beat a National League team that way, including postseason,

1307
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:41,040
Speaker 9: It had only happened twice in Yankee franchise history. One

1308
01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:44,280
Speaker 9: of those was famously against the Braves in the nineteen

1309
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:47,360
Speaker 9: ninety six World Series when they were down six nothing

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01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,240
Speaker 9: and still beat them. There was also a summer interleague

1311
01:06:50,280 --> 01:06:54,360
Speaker 9: game against the Pills in two thousand with a six nothing,

1312
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,640
Speaker 9: six run comeback, and by the way, Statsinc. Saying that

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01:06:57,720 --> 01:07:01,040
Speaker 9: the Braves bullpen did something that's literally never happened in

1314
01:07:01,160 --> 01:07:05,040
Speaker 9: Major league history until tonight. First off, the bullpen pitches

1315
01:07:05,160 --> 01:07:07,640
Speaker 9: five innings, are less in the game, but still allows

1316
01:07:07,720 --> 01:07:10,960
Speaker 9: twelve runs or more and walks at least four better

1317
01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:14,200
Speaker 9: and allows for homer, and the bullpen gives up a

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Speaker 9: grand slam and loses the game. Yankees twelve nine.

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Speaker 8: The final back to.

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Speaker 3: You, Thank you very much. Steve Sager.

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Speaker 2: Di Sega will be back in just a few moments

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Speaker 2: with his extended update. This is Fox Sports Radio aeron

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01:07:25,640 --> 01:07:28,080
Speaker 2: tors Jason Martin taking it up till two am Eastern

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01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:31,840
Speaker 2: where Bernie Fratto is out. Chris Plank will follow us.

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Speaker 2: Tell you what, Mary, give us a little more music,

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01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:38,600
Speaker 2: put us in the mood Ian. Let's continue the conversation

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01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,400
Speaker 2: on the NFC East over under win totals.

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01:07:41,440 --> 01:07:42,200
Speaker 3: Who's up next?

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01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:45,120
Speaker 11: All right, New York Giants are next. They're over under

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01:07:45,120 --> 01:07:46,760
Speaker 11: a set at five and a half.

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Speaker 3: What do we think.

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01:07:49,240 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 4: You go? This? S Tim Aaron.

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01:07:50,360 --> 01:07:52,400
Speaker 2: All right, so I did a little digging on the

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01:07:52,640 --> 01:07:59,000
Speaker 2: New York Football Giants. First, let me see make sure

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01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:03,200
Speaker 2: I have this math correct. Okay, five of their first

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01:08:03,240 --> 01:08:08,120
Speaker 2: eight are on the road. That includes at Washington, that

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01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 2: includes at Philadelphia, also includes your Broncos, who I think

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01:08:12,600 --> 01:08:16,160
Speaker 2: will be much improved, Jmartin. Among the home games that

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01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:22,719
Speaker 2: they have, Chiefs, Chargers, Eagles, and then oh, by the way,

1340
01:08:23,640 --> 01:08:26,320
Speaker 2: they get a home game with the San Francisco forty

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01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:28,439
Speaker 2: nine ers in their ninth game of the year.

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Speaker 3: So how about this.

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01:08:29,439 --> 01:08:32,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I'm just gonna read this to you at Washington

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01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:38,519
Speaker 2: at Cowboys, Chiefs Chargers at home at Saints, Eagles at

1345
01:08:38,520 --> 01:08:44,640
Speaker 2: home at Denver at Eagles forty nine Ers Bears, Packers

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01:08:45,080 --> 01:08:50,120
Speaker 2: at Lions. That takes us to Thanksgiving. It also takes

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01:08:50,200 --> 01:08:52,639
Speaker 2: us to a situation where I don't believe Brian Dabele

1348
01:08:52,720 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 2: will still be the head coach at Thanksgiving. That schedule

1349
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:59,280
Speaker 2: is bananas. So what was it? Five and a half?

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01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,320
Speaker 2: I think they're probably the worst team in the league.

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01:09:02,360 --> 01:09:04,360
Speaker 2: I think they're in contention for the number one pick.

1352
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:07,920
Speaker 2: Maybe they play Jackson Dart early, who I don't think

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01:09:08,040 --> 01:09:08,599
Speaker 2: is ready.

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01:09:10,600 --> 01:09:13,000
Speaker 3: I think they're really bad. I think it's under Yeah.

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01:09:13,120 --> 01:09:14,599
Speaker 4: Look, I don't know if they're ready or not. But

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01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 4: you're you're you're You're dealing with either Jackson Dart or

1357
01:09:19,120 --> 01:09:23,360
Speaker 4: Russell Wilson as your quarterback right now, or Jameis Winston

1358
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 4: or Jamis Winston. Yes, worst team in the league. I'm

1359
01:09:29,520 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: trying to think if there was somebody I might have

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01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,240
Speaker 4: might have come up with, but I really can. I

1361
01:09:34,280 --> 01:09:37,479
Speaker 4: think you're probably right. Somebody is gonna have to win

1362
01:09:37,560 --> 01:09:40,040
Speaker 4: three games this year. There's gonna be a couple of

1363
01:09:40,040 --> 01:09:41,400
Speaker 4: teams to do that. A lot of times when you

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01:09:41,439 --> 01:09:43,680
Speaker 4: do these over unders, you don't realize that you have

1365
01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,240
Speaker 4: given too many wins out there's not enough games, So

1366
01:09:47,280 --> 01:09:49,519
Speaker 4: you have to pick a couple to have some really

1367
01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:53,760
Speaker 4: brutal seasons. Here's one of them. I agree with you.

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Speaker 4: I think they're gonna be under real quick.

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01:09:55,439 --> 01:09:56,800
Speaker 3: Before we get to the Commanders.

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Speaker 2: You know, you look at like even like the Jets stink,

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01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:05,599
Speaker 2: but they have some very nice pieces, obviously, the two

1372
01:10:05,600 --> 01:10:09,160
Speaker 2: guys that signed the big extension, Garrett Wilson saus Gardner,

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:11,680
Speaker 2: among others outside.

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Speaker 3: Of elite neighbors. I guess Carter, Yeah, yeah, well that's true.

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01:10:15,360 --> 01:10:17,960
Speaker 2: They did just draft him, so I just I don't

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01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:21,519
Speaker 2: even know like where they're could let alone whatever. Plus

1377
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:25,240
Speaker 2: the schedule, plus the quarterback situation, I'm going under. Ian

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01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:27,479
Speaker 2: give us the last one, all right, Yeah, I'd say

1379
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:31,880
Speaker 2: Andrew Thomas, but besides him, I left tackle not much. Yeah,

1380
01:10:31,960 --> 01:10:34,600
Speaker 2: next up, Commanders last, but not least nine and a

1381
01:10:34,640 --> 01:10:35,160
Speaker 2: half wins.

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01:10:35,200 --> 01:10:36,720
Speaker 3: They're set at right now, what do we think?

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01:10:37,200 --> 01:10:37,599
Speaker 8: Go ahead?

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01:10:37,600 --> 01:10:41,000
Speaker 4: To you, Ma, well, that feels like an over Yeah,

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,800
Speaker 4: I mean, even if they take a step back from

1386
01:10:43,800 --> 01:10:45,680
Speaker 4: what they did a season ago. I just I don't

1387
01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 4: see how they don't win double digits unless there's injuries.

1388
01:10:49,920 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: So I'll be quick. I actually agree with you.

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,600
Speaker 2: I think the other thing too, is given the schedule

1390
01:10:55,800 --> 01:11:01,759
Speaker 2: with the NFC North and the AFC West, manageable schedule.

1391
01:11:01,840 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 2: First four Giants at home at Packers won't be easy,

1392
01:11:05,880 --> 01:11:10,520
Speaker 2: Raiders at home at Falcons. They also somehow draw the Seahawks,

1393
01:11:11,160 --> 01:11:16,680
Speaker 2: the Dolphins, the obviously the Giants twice. Yeah, Seahawks, Dolphins,

1394
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:23,879
Speaker 2: Raiders plus two against the Giants and two against the Cowboys,

1395
01:11:23,880 --> 01:11:26,360
Speaker 2: who I think are clearly the inferior team.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

1397
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:30,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't really have a ton else to add.

1398
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:32,800
Speaker 2: I think there could be that second year regression like

1399
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:35,360
Speaker 2: we saw from CJ. Stroud from Jordan Love last year.

1400
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Speaker 4: But like c J.

1401
01:11:36,280 --> 01:11:39,559
Speaker 2: Stroud regressed, they still want a bad division. And I

1402
01:11:39,600 --> 01:11:42,120
Speaker 2: think even if Jaden Daniels takes half a step back,

1403
01:11:42,160 --> 01:11:45,599
Speaker 2: even if the DBO things a little bit weird, I mean,

1404
01:11:47,160 --> 01:11:49,000
Speaker 2: where are there again?

1405
01:11:49,040 --> 01:11:50,799
Speaker 4: It comes down to the injuries. I mean, if Stroud

1406
01:11:50,840 --> 01:11:53,400
Speaker 4: doesn't have, if they don't have all the injuries like Houston,

1407
01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:56,519
Speaker 4: I mean, even if he takes he may he's still

1408
01:11:56,600 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 4: you might have still been right that he regressed, But

1409
01:11:59,360 --> 01:12:02,760
Speaker 4: a lot of it was expedite didn't grown because of

1410
01:12:03,040 --> 01:12:04,880
Speaker 4: all of just the other stuff that was going on

1411
01:12:04,920 --> 01:12:07,559
Speaker 4: in Houston. That just you know, you couldn't control and

1412
01:12:07,560 --> 01:12:09,240
Speaker 4: you couldn't plan for. So that's what I'm saying. As

1413
01:12:09,240 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 4: long as there's not injuries in Washington, I don't think

1414
01:12:11,960 --> 01:12:13,880
Speaker 4: it's going to be a dramatic step back because I

1415
01:12:13,880 --> 01:12:15,479
Speaker 4: think Jaydon Daniels is legit.

1416
01:12:16,520 --> 01:12:18,679
Speaker 2: So I think we agreed on all four there. Ian

1417
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:21,879
Speaker 2: just read us off, so I don't remember the numbers,

1418
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,360
Speaker 2: but read it off for America where me and J.

1419
01:12:24,479 --> 01:12:27,000
Speaker 11: Mart are at all right, So first off was the

1420
01:12:27,000 --> 01:12:28,000
Speaker 11: Philadelphia Eagles.

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01:12:28,080 --> 01:12:29,080
Speaker 3: Eleven and a half.

1422
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:30,679
Speaker 11: Wins is their line right now in bet MGM.

1423
01:12:30,760 --> 01:12:31,599
Speaker 3: You both said over.

1424
01:12:32,439 --> 01:12:34,760
Speaker 11: Then we went to the Dallas Cowboys seven and a

1425
01:12:34,800 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 11: half wins is what they're set out right now. You

1426
01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:39,720
Speaker 11: both went under. The New York Giants five and a

1427
01:12:39,760 --> 01:12:43,040
Speaker 11: half wins, you both went under. And lastly the Washington

1428
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,599
Speaker 11: Commanders nine and a half wins. You both said over.

1429
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Ian, and I appreciate I should

1430
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:52,000
Speaker 2: say I sort of appreciate you tabulating last year's result

1431
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 2: until you told me I sucked and I lost to.

1432
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:58,280
Speaker 3: J Martin and the NFCS. So all right, I'm joking.

1433
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:00,360
Speaker 3: Those are your words entirely. I did not say.

1434
01:13:00,280 --> 01:13:02,040
Speaker 4: Nine a man, I bet you're gonna get You're gonna

1435
01:13:02,080 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 4: have some WS in weeks to come. I bet from

1436
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:06,400
Speaker 4: last year or so. We'll see, we'll see.

1437
01:13:06,439 --> 01:13:07,040
Speaker 3: We I'll tell you what.

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01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 2: Next week we'll do probably maybe the most interesting division

1439
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 2: in football, the NFC North. So that's the NFC East,

1440
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,920
Speaker 2: NFC North next week. And to saga up next, this

1441
01:13:18,080 --> 01:13:25,439
Speaker 2: is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio

1442
01:13:25,640 --> 01:13:28,599
Speaker 2: air tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the Fox Sports

1443
01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:32,040
Speaker 2: Radio studios as we do every Saturday and to Sunday.

1444
01:13:32,560 --> 01:13:34,400
Speaker 2: Right around this time, let's turn over the news desk.

1445
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,920
Speaker 2: Steve de Sager get us caught up on everything we

1446
01:13:37,000 --> 01:13:41,000
Speaker 2: missed throughout the day today and yesterday and tomorrow and

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01:13:41,040 --> 01:13:41,479
Speaker 2: everything we need.

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01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:44,120
Speaker 9: We'll get the w NBA comments in a moment, but

1449
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 9: almost everything is final. In the majors, they're going to

1450
01:13:46,920 --> 01:13:49,160
Speaker 9: the bottom of the nine. Seattle tied five to five

1451
01:13:49,240 --> 01:13:51,960
Speaker 9: with Houston Mariners tied at scoring on a wild pitch

1452
01:13:52,040 --> 01:13:54,479
Speaker 9: in the eighth inning. By the way, the third baseman

1453
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:57,960
Speaker 9: for Houston, Essach Paradis, left with a hamstring entry and

1454
01:13:58,000 --> 01:14:01,559
Speaker 9: the late MLS game went to the Galaxy seemingly at

1455
01:14:01,600 --> 01:14:04,120
Speaker 9: victory because they got two late goals to tie.

1456
01:14:03,960 --> 01:14:06,200
Speaker 8: Rival LAFC three to three. The final.

1457
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:09,920
Speaker 9: Now we had the highest scoring WNBA All Star Game ever,

1458
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:14,280
Speaker 9: attending seventeen thousand in Indianapolis. Team Collier a winner over

1459
01:14:14,479 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 9: Team Clark. Caitlin Clark injured did not play. The final

1460
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:22,559
Speaker 9: score was one fifty one to one thirty one. The

1461
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:26,559
Speaker 9: game MVP captain Nafisa Collier scored a record thirty six

1462
01:14:26,600 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 9: points in nineteen minutes on the court. She was thirteen

1463
01:14:30,280 --> 01:14:34,240
Speaker 9: of sixteen from the floor. However, there were some rules

1464
01:14:34,240 --> 01:14:37,040
Speaker 9: that were different in this game just for tonight. The

1465
01:14:37,080 --> 01:14:40,639
Speaker 9: shot clock was twenty seconds instead of twenty four. They

1466
01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,200
Speaker 9: allowed a hockey like substitution for the offense. We you'd

1467
01:14:44,240 --> 01:14:47,240
Speaker 9: have one player off and another come on without a

1468
01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:50,920
Speaker 9: timeout like while things were going. They also had a

1469
01:14:51,080 --> 01:14:53,519
Speaker 9: four point shot. They had a couple of circles on

1470
01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:54,040
Speaker 9: each side.

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01:14:54,040 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 3: I notice, I said, I was trying to figure out

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01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:56,000
Speaker 3: what that was.

1473
01:14:56,040 --> 01:14:58,200
Speaker 9: I mean, I clearly there were a lot of three

1474
01:14:58,280 --> 01:15:01,480
Speaker 9: point attempts, and I've seen nothing that it actually delineates

1475
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 9: how many were from three but and how many were

1476
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:08,760
Speaker 9: from four. But there was were two circles on each

1477
01:15:08,840 --> 01:15:13,080
Speaker 9: offensive has located above the three point line at twenty

1478
01:15:13,120 --> 01:15:16,639
Speaker 9: eight feet out, and apparently there weren't any free throw

1479
01:15:16,760 --> 01:15:19,080
Speaker 9: shot in the game until the last two minutes. If

1480
01:15:19,080 --> 01:15:21,720
Speaker 9: you got fouled, instead of going for the line to

1481
01:15:21,840 --> 01:15:24,080
Speaker 9: the line for two, they just gave you the two

1482
01:15:24,720 --> 01:15:27,400
Speaker 9: and moved the game along. So if you look at

1483
01:15:27,439 --> 01:15:29,839
Speaker 9: the box score, it's like, wow, this team was sixteen

1484
01:15:29,840 --> 01:15:30,880
Speaker 9: of sixteen from the line.

1485
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:32,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, they didn't shoot any of those.

1486
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:36,840
Speaker 9: Oh, interesting, so it was a high scoring game. There

1487
01:15:36,880 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 9: were how many block shots in this game? The answer

1488
01:15:39,360 --> 01:15:39,840
Speaker 9: is zero.

1489
01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:41,639
Speaker 3: It was bad.

1490
01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,840
Speaker 2: I had it on the background, like I said, and

1491
01:15:43,880 --> 01:15:48,320
Speaker 2: it the WNBA. I feel like the players are just

1492
01:15:48,439 --> 01:15:50,960
Speaker 2: trying to do a bad impression of NBA players, like

1493
01:15:51,000 --> 01:15:52,680
Speaker 2: with the walk you know, they have the walk in

1494
01:15:52,880 --> 01:15:55,800
Speaker 2: you know, red carpet stuff whatever, And it was the

1495
01:15:55,800 --> 01:15:56,720
Speaker 2: same in the All Star Game.

1496
01:15:56,760 --> 01:15:58,880
Speaker 3: It's, Oh, we're gonna have fun and like, no, I'm

1497
01:15:58,880 --> 01:16:00,600
Speaker 3: not gonna play defense. No I'm not going to go

1498
01:16:00,600 --> 01:16:02,320
Speaker 3: for this rebound. You get the rebound and put.

1499
01:16:02,160 --> 01:16:05,040
Speaker 9: The layup back, and it's like there were five fouls

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Speaker 9: total in the whole guts.

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01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:07,240
Speaker 8: Yeah, there you go.

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01:16:07,479 --> 01:16:11,599
Speaker 9: And how many let's call it, how many shot attempts

1503
01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:14,360
Speaker 9: from beyond the arc. Tonight, it's a forty minute game.

1504
01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:17,960
Speaker 9: Oh there were one hundred and twenty.

1505
01:16:18,240 --> 01:16:21,680
Speaker 2: Wow, I was gonna say eighty, and I was like, no,

1506
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:22,759
Speaker 2: that's two per minute.

1507
01:16:22,800 --> 01:16:23,599
Speaker 3: That can't be right.

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01:16:24,080 --> 01:16:28,080
Speaker 9: Each team with roughly sixty I'll call it three point

1509
01:16:28,200 --> 01:16:31,000
Speaker 9: attempts including those four drives.

1510
01:16:30,840 --> 01:16:32,040
Speaker 3: From three per minute.

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01:16:32,560 --> 01:16:34,200
Speaker 8: That's bad, just astounding.

1512
01:16:34,360 --> 01:16:37,839
Speaker 9: So as far as the TV ratings, until last year's

1513
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:40,479
Speaker 9: record rating, it was by far the highest rating they

1514
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:43,400
Speaker 9: got last year. That was when the WNBA Stars beat

1515
01:16:43,439 --> 01:16:47,280
Speaker 9: the US national team before they went to Paris. Before

1516
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:50,640
Speaker 9: the previous record high audience was one point four to

1517
01:16:50,640 --> 01:16:53,000
Speaker 9: four million viewers, and that was over twenty years ago.

1518
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 9: Last year's was three point four to four million viewers.

1519
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:00,839
Speaker 9: Baseball's All Star Game this week got over seven million viewers,

1520
01:17:00,920 --> 01:17:04,559
Speaker 9: and that tied its lowest on record. Baseball is still

1521
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 9: king of the All Star games in the ratings because

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01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,960
Speaker 9: even the home run derby had a larger audience than

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01:17:11,000 --> 01:17:13,839
Speaker 9: the NBA All Star Game or the Pro Bowl games

1524
01:17:14,040 --> 01:17:17,439
Speaker 9: or this home run derby on Monday on Cable five

1525
01:17:17,560 --> 01:17:21,840
Speaker 9: point seven million. The last NBA All Star Game was

1526
01:17:22,120 --> 01:17:25,719
Speaker 9: four point seven million. Pro Bowl games four point seven million,

1527
01:17:25,760 --> 01:17:28,160
Speaker 9: Hockey's not included in this this year because they did

1528
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 9: something different. Of the very successful four Nations face.

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01:17:32,280 --> 01:17:32,760
Speaker 4: That was great.

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01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:33,520
Speaker 8: Yeah.

1531
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 9: At the NBA's Las Vegas Summer League, seven games on

1532
01:17:36,800 --> 01:17:39,559
Speaker 9: the Saturday schedule and it all ends tomorrow. It goes

1533
01:17:39,560 --> 01:17:43,680
Speaker 9: from July tenth to July twentieth, which is Sunday. Sacramento

1534
01:17:43,720 --> 01:17:46,599
Speaker 9: defeated Toronto ninety eight eighty eight for the Raptors. Jamal

1535
01:17:46,640 --> 01:17:49,840
Speaker 9: Shed University of Houston had twenty four points twelve assists.

1536
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:52,959
Speaker 9: Veteran guard Marcus Smart agreed to a buyout with the Wizards.

1537
01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,000
Speaker 9: He reportedly will sign with the Lakers. He was the

1538
01:17:56,120 --> 01:17:58,840
Speaker 9: NBA's Defensive Player of the Year in twenty twenty two.

1539
01:17:58,840 --> 01:18:02,400
Speaker 9: He's battled injuries last couple of seasons. Most NFL teams

1540
01:18:02,439 --> 01:18:05,360
Speaker 9: will have their veterans report to training camp on Tuesday.

1541
01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 9: The preseason schedule starts with Chargers versus Lions in the

1542
01:18:09,080 --> 01:18:12,599
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame Game July thirty. First those teams veterans

1543
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,639
Speaker 9: report to camp by this weekend. Bears quarterback Case Keenum

1544
01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,000
Speaker 9: was placed on the non football injury list, but he

1545
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,679
Speaker 9: can join that club after passing a physical. Their first

1546
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:25,120
Speaker 9: practice is Wednesday, veteran edge rusher Von Miller is due

1547
01:18:25,160 --> 01:18:28,479
Speaker 9: to officially sign with Washington on Monday, one year deal.

1548
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 9: The Rams signed second round tight end Terrence Ferguson. Until

1549
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,599
Speaker 9: this year, no second round pick had ever received a

1550
01:18:35,680 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 9: fully guaranteed contract. Turns out, the top eight selections in

1551
01:18:39,280 --> 01:18:42,800
Speaker 9: round two got guaranteed money this year, the Saints giving

1552
01:18:42,840 --> 01:18:47,000
Speaker 9: second round quarterback Tyler Shuck a fully guaranteed contract. What

1553
01:18:47,080 --> 01:18:51,200
Speaker 9: about the Bengals first rounder defensive ends Samar Stewart is

1554
01:18:51,240 --> 01:18:54,920
Speaker 9: still unsigned and the team's other rookies have now reported

1555
01:18:55,000 --> 01:18:58,519
Speaker 9: to training camp. Stuart sat out mini camp because the Bengals,

1556
01:18:58,520 --> 01:19:00,519
Speaker 9: who are trying to put in new word in his

1557
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:05,320
Speaker 9: contract to be able to avoid future guarantees. Unlike in

1558
01:19:05,360 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 9: the past, it's a new tag for the team. They

1559
01:19:08,200 --> 01:19:11,120
Speaker 9: I suppose have the upper hand, but this first rounder

1560
01:19:11,160 --> 01:19:14,519
Speaker 9: has not signed. He's the only unsigned first rounder this year.

1561
01:19:14,600 --> 01:19:18,080
Speaker 9: Even their second rounder signed today. And in Major League

1562
01:19:18,080 --> 01:19:20,559
Speaker 9: Baseball again, the late game is five to five Houston

1563
01:19:20,600 --> 01:19:23,440
Speaker 9: at Seattle in the bottom of the ninth. The Milwaukee

1564
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,439
Speaker 9: Brewers have won nine games in a row. They beat

1565
01:19:26,479 --> 01:19:29,719
Speaker 9: the Dodgers eight to seven in LA and Mookie Bets.

1566
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:33,439
Speaker 9: The Dodgers shortstop not outfielder this year had the night off.

1567
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:37,320
Speaker 9: His batting average is too forty one. His career average

1568
01:19:37,320 --> 01:19:41,160
Speaker 9: is to ninety one. This month, he's batting one eighty eight,

1569
01:19:41,320 --> 01:19:44,160
Speaker 9: nine for forty eight at the plate. He got a

1570
01:19:44,960 --> 01:19:48,519
Speaker 9: deserved night off. Perhaps he will finally turn it around.

1571
01:19:48,520 --> 01:19:51,040
Speaker 9: But the Milwaukee Brewers now have a better record than

1572
01:19:51,080 --> 01:19:54,280
Speaker 9: the Dodgers fifty eight and forty. The Dodgers are fifty

1573
01:19:54,320 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 9: eight and forty one.

1574
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:58,080
Speaker 2: Thank you very much, Steve Sayer. A lot of ground

1575
01:19:58,080 --> 01:20:01,080
Speaker 2: cover there. We appreciate you. This is Fox Sports Radio

1576
01:20:01,160 --> 01:20:04,000
Speaker 2: Air towards Jason Martin. One hour left, taking you up

1577
01:20:04,040 --> 01:20:06,880
Speaker 2: till two a m. Eastern time. Chris Plank follows us.

1578
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,920
Speaker 2: We'll come back. I yeah, we have more to say

1579
01:20:10,080 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 2: about the w NBA All Star Game. This is Fox

1580
01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,479
Speaker 2: Sports Radio.

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01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,479
Speaker 1: You're listening to Fox Sports Radio.

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01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 2: Welcome in everybody, our three tours and Martin Fox Sports Radio.

1583
01:20:23,640 --> 01:20:28,480
Speaker 2: We are broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio studios.

1584
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,880
Speaker 2: By the way, we're taking it up till two am Eastern.

1585
01:20:32,080 --> 01:20:37,240
Speaker 2: Bernie Fratto out, Chris Plank is in. Cannot wait to

1586
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:40,080
Speaker 2: hear what Plank has to say about a busy day

1587
01:20:40,120 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 2: in sports. Busy week in sports as NFL.

1588
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,639
Speaker 3: Jamar feels like, hey, you know, I'm gonna get some.

1589
01:20:47,720 --> 01:20:49,960
Speaker 2: NFL cut content here by the time we're on air

1590
01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:54,320
Speaker 2: next week, Uh, training camps are opening, all that good stuff.

1591
01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:58,799
Speaker 2: So last real week without any football for a while,

1592
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:02,320
Speaker 2: thank goodness. Yes, but we got to talk about the

1593
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:05,160
Speaker 2: topic of the day, topic of the day in sports,

1594
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 2: I guess. I mean, I don't know if it would

1595
01:21:08,479 --> 01:21:14,000
Speaker 2: have been if we didn't have the pregame Shenanigans WNBA

1596
01:21:14,040 --> 01:21:20,360
Speaker 2: All Star Game. Admittedly, I think interest, to say the least,

1597
01:21:20,400 --> 01:21:24,040
Speaker 2: was down when Kayler Clark was announced out for the game.

1598
01:21:24,160 --> 01:21:27,960
Speaker 2: Tickets dropped by fifty percent from Thursday to Friday, even

1599
01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:30,360
Speaker 2: more so by the time the game tipped off today.

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01:21:31,360 --> 01:21:34,400
Speaker 2: Don't know that we would have necessarily talked about very

1601
01:21:34,520 --> 01:21:37,000
Speaker 2: much of anything to do with the WNBA All Star

1602
01:21:37,080 --> 01:21:41,439
Speaker 2: Game tonight had we not had a pregame display by

1603
01:21:41,520 --> 01:21:43,680
Speaker 2: all of the players. So the players, of course, are

1604
01:21:43,800 --> 01:21:46,799
Speaker 2: in the midst of a cb I keep saying contract,

1605
01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:51,440
Speaker 2: a CBA negotiation. In other words, the collective bargaining agreement.

1606
01:21:52,320 --> 01:21:55,280
Speaker 2: Their collective bargaining agreement is up. They have just agreed

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01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:58,439
Speaker 2: to a new TV rights deal. They want more money,

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01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:01,680
Speaker 2: and so their way of expressing the fact that they

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01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:04,519
Speaker 2: are not happy with the current state of the CBA deal.

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01:22:04,560 --> 01:22:07,880
Speaker 2: I think Nafisa Coller even references at the end they

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01:22:07,920 --> 01:22:09,520
Speaker 2: wore shirts that said.

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01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:13,000
Speaker 3: Pay us what you owe us.

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01:22:13,320 --> 01:22:15,879
Speaker 2: Pay us what you owe us is what the shirts

1614
01:22:15,920 --> 01:22:19,439
Speaker 2: of all of these WNBA players said. Prior to tip

1615
01:22:19,479 --> 01:22:21,720
Speaker 2: off on Saturday, Jamar.

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01:22:21,600 --> 01:22:24,040
Speaker 3: I got a lot.

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01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:26,479
Speaker 2: Of thoughts on Brianna Stewart and Asia Wilson and Paige

1618
01:22:26,479 --> 01:22:29,400
Speaker 2: Beckers and all these girls wearing these shirts. But what

1619
01:22:29,479 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 2: are your thoughts on WNBA players paying wearing shirts that

1620
01:22:33,880 --> 01:22:37,840
Speaker 2: say pay us what they owe us prior to the

1621
01:22:37,840 --> 01:22:38,880
Speaker 2: start of the All Star Game.

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01:22:39,400 --> 01:22:42,040
Speaker 4: Well, again, I don't owe you anything. And you're wearing

1623
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,160
Speaker 4: the shirts for cameras. It's going to be on television

1624
01:22:45,200 --> 01:22:46,400
Speaker 4: and people are going to see it, and they said,

1625
01:22:46,439 --> 01:22:49,000
Speaker 4: what are you talking about? Because they don't know what's

1626
01:22:49,040 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 4: going on. And here's the thing, they're not going to

1627
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:53,679
Speaker 4: go research it to find out because they don't care enough.

1628
01:22:54,080 --> 01:22:57,200
Speaker 4: Like I don't begrudge them for trying to get what

1629
01:22:57,240 --> 01:23:00,200
Speaker 4: they think they are worth behind closed doors. That's how

1630
01:23:00,200 --> 01:23:04,000
Speaker 4: you negotiate. Good for them doing it in public when

1631
01:23:04,000 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 4: the public has one nothing to do with it and

1632
01:23:06,200 --> 01:23:10,920
Speaker 4: two doesn't really help your case. That's where I've got

1633
01:23:10,920 --> 01:23:13,800
Speaker 4: my issue, like, not only is the public not going

1634
01:23:13,840 --> 01:23:17,040
Speaker 4: to be able to help you in this case, but

1635
01:23:17,760 --> 01:23:21,840
Speaker 4: the money that you have generated, the you know, being

1636
01:23:21,840 --> 01:23:25,360
Speaker 4: in the red pretty much your entire existence at this point.

1637
01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:29,240
Speaker 4: I mean, the fans are not They're not actually going

1638
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:33,000
Speaker 4: to butcher your case here. So again, this is more

1639
01:23:33,040 --> 01:23:35,919
Speaker 4: than anything. It's just like, dude, it's your All Star weekend.

1640
01:23:35,960 --> 01:23:38,000
Speaker 4: At least just try to show a good face to

1641
01:23:38,080 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 4: the public that is going to watch it. Whoever it

1642
01:23:40,160 --> 01:23:41,840
Speaker 4: is it's going to tune in to watch this thing.

1643
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 4: Just go out there and play the best game you

1644
01:23:44,640 --> 01:23:47,439
Speaker 4: can be, the most entertaining that you possibly can be.

1645
01:23:48,680 --> 01:23:52,600
Speaker 4: Try don't turn it into some kind of a statement

1646
01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:55,479
Speaker 4: moment because you don't have leverage and you don't have

1647
01:23:55,560 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 4: the popularity to get away with this, Like you you

1648
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 4: can't do this, You're not in position to do this.

1649
01:24:02,800 --> 01:24:07,200
Speaker 4: There's probably you know, some you know, liberal media types

1650
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:09,120
Speaker 4: that are out there that are applauding all this, and

1651
01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:11,639
Speaker 4: I'm just kind of like, just understand, you're shooting yourself

1652
01:24:11,680 --> 01:24:15,200
Speaker 4: in the foot because you see this messaging. There's a

1653
01:24:15,240 --> 01:24:17,439
Speaker 4: lot of casual fans that maybe they would have stopped

1654
01:24:17,439 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 4: for five seconds until they found out Caitlin Clark went

1655
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 4: in the game. She's wearing the shirt too. All Right,

1656
01:24:21,960 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 4: I gotta go like there's not there's no there there.

1657
01:24:25,240 --> 01:24:27,360
Speaker 4: That's what I said the first out. There's no reason

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01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:32,040
Speaker 4: why anybody really is going to sit around and care

1659
01:24:32,080 --> 01:24:34,800
Speaker 4: about this, So why are you displaying it to a

1660
01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:36,360
Speaker 4: public that's not interested?

1661
01:24:36,920 --> 01:24:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1662
01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:41,839
Speaker 2: I think you know, to me, listen, there are ways

1663
01:24:42,040 --> 01:24:48,519
Speaker 2: to you know, one negotiate and two even publicly negotiate.

1664
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 2: I mean, we see this every time that there's some

1665
01:24:50,840 --> 01:24:54,240
Speaker 2: sort of collective bargaining issue in the NBA, the NFL,

1666
01:24:54,280 --> 01:24:56,800
Speaker 2: major League Baseball where you know, you league stuff in

1667
01:24:56,840 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 2: this and that. I just don't think that is the way.

1668
01:25:01,560 --> 01:25:03,599
Speaker 2: And the reason I don't think this is the way

1669
01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 2: is because a lot of what we talked about in

1670
01:25:05,120 --> 01:25:09,120
Speaker 2: hour one is that I think here's here's the thing.

1671
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,960
Speaker 2: I don't think the public is on the player's side

1672
01:25:13,080 --> 01:25:13,679
Speaker 2: on this one.

1673
01:25:13,800 --> 01:25:18,640
Speaker 3: Like it's one thing to protest whatever right is.

1674
01:25:18,840 --> 01:25:21,240
Speaker 2: Uh, it could be anything, could be political, could be social,

1675
01:25:21,320 --> 01:25:23,360
Speaker 2: could be this, could be that, could be whatever, and

1676
01:25:23,760 --> 01:25:26,240
Speaker 2: you might disagree with it, I might disagree with it whatever,

1677
01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:30,000
Speaker 2: But if you have public sentiment, that's a little bit

1678
01:25:30,040 --> 01:25:30,720
Speaker 2: of a different deal.

1679
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,479
Speaker 3: I'd bring it up.

1680
01:25:32,479 --> 01:25:37,479
Speaker 2: Because is there anybody like yes, to your point, there's

1681
01:25:37,520 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 2: a very small percentage of the media. There is a

1682
01:25:40,000 --> 01:25:43,680
Speaker 2: very small percentage of you know, people that are advocate

1683
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:44,679
Speaker 2: for women's sports.

1684
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:47,200
Speaker 3: I think the vast.

1685
01:25:46,960 --> 01:25:52,639
Speaker 2: Majority of people that even want to try and support

1686
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 2: the WNBA, they also understand the basic economics of the

1687
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,880
Speaker 2: fact that this league has been going for thirty years

1688
01:26:00,920 --> 01:26:04,160
Speaker 2: and has yet to turn a profit. And so that's

1689
01:26:04,240 --> 01:26:07,320
Speaker 2: the thing to me is like, again, I don't love

1690
01:26:07,400 --> 01:26:10,080
Speaker 2: my athletes being political, or my athletes wanting about money,

1691
01:26:10,160 --> 01:26:14,559
Speaker 2: or my athletes whatever. But it's like, even when a

1692
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 2: football player TJ. Watt holds out, it's like, oh, well, TJ.

1693
01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:21,280
Speaker 2: Watt has like insane value to the Pittsburgh Steelers and

1694
01:26:21,320 --> 01:26:22,760
Speaker 2: they need to figure out a way to pay him.

1695
01:26:22,960 --> 01:26:25,479
Speaker 2: Terry mcclaurin, we talked about him. I think he gets paid.

1696
01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:27,759
Speaker 2: I think he should get paid. He has incredible value

1697
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,400
Speaker 2: to a very valuable organization that is in win now mode.

1698
01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 2: With a rookie, with a rookie quarterback, These girls have

1699
01:26:34,520 --> 01:26:38,960
Speaker 2: no value. No one cares except for one of them.

1700
01:26:39,160 --> 01:26:41,680
Speaker 2: No one cares. And I think that's the part, is

1701
01:26:41,720 --> 01:26:44,799
Speaker 2: that it's one thing to protest and to fight for something,

1702
01:26:45,320 --> 01:26:48,559
Speaker 2: when I'm not saying you should only protest things if

1703
01:26:48,560 --> 01:26:51,439
Speaker 2: people are gonna be on your side. I don't think

1704
01:26:51,520 --> 01:26:53,880
Speaker 2: the general public is on their side on this one.

1705
01:26:53,920 --> 01:26:57,400
Speaker 2: I think the general public fully understands how stupid that

1706
01:26:57,479 --> 01:27:00,679
Speaker 2: they look for wearing these T shirts and making this request.

1707
01:27:01,120 --> 01:27:02,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean again, you got to be able to

1708
01:27:02,720 --> 01:27:04,920
Speaker 4: read the room. You have to understand how tone depth

1709
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:11,680
Speaker 4: this looks. Because to your point, the public probably I

1710
01:27:11,720 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 4: mean if they again, like because of how everything has

1711
01:27:15,520 --> 01:27:18,639
Speaker 4: gone down through the years, the public's never really been

1712
01:27:18,680 --> 01:27:21,599
Speaker 4: on the side of the WNBA because they haven't ever watched,

1713
01:27:21,640 --> 01:27:24,720
Speaker 4: they haven't ever paid attention before. So for you to

1714
01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 4: stick this in their face that way, Like I was

1715
01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:28,400
Speaker 4: thinking about this, and I was thinking about it in

1716
01:27:28,479 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 4: terms of women's soccer. When they started making statements all

1717
01:27:31,960 --> 01:27:34,640
Speaker 4: the time, then it was like I felt like a

1718
01:27:34,640 --> 01:27:37,240
Speaker 4: lot of people in our own country, me included, were

1719
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:40,120
Speaker 4: ready for them to lose because they became really hard

1720
01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:44,160
Speaker 4: to root for. And this league over this last couple

1721
01:27:44,240 --> 01:27:47,960
Speaker 4: of years has become incredibly hard to root for, Like

1722
01:27:48,000 --> 01:27:51,240
Speaker 4: if you have ever wanted them to succeed, I find

1723
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 4: it hard to believe that you would still feel as

1724
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:57,679
Speaker 4: strongly about that because they continually do and say things

1725
01:27:57,720 --> 01:28:00,760
Speaker 4: where it's just like, man, why does this have to

1726
01:28:00,760 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 4: feel like the Scott's Toughts episode of the Office, Like

1727
01:28:03,720 --> 01:28:05,000
Speaker 4: why do I have to feel like I've got to

1728
01:28:05,080 --> 01:28:08,880
Speaker 4: cringe left and right? Because they just they just can't

1729
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:14,320
Speaker 4: go out there and try to entertain and not ruffle feathers, like,

1730
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,880
Speaker 4: don't turn this into controversy Central. You guys are not

1731
01:28:18,040 --> 01:28:20,519
Speaker 4: good enough at what you do to make people watch. Like,

1732
01:28:20,600 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 4: you have to be likable, they have to, like before

1733
01:28:24,360 --> 01:28:27,840
Speaker 4: you have before you can become the NFL or whatever,

1734
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 4: you've got to be likable. You're already in a sport

1735
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,080
Speaker 4: where it's where you're up against it because women's basketball

1736
01:28:33,200 --> 01:28:35,160
Speaker 4: is just it's always going to be somewhat of a

1737
01:28:35,240 --> 01:28:38,080
Speaker 4: niche product. But I mean in that case, you have

1738
01:28:38,120 --> 01:28:40,519
Speaker 4: to be super likable. You've got to have personalities, but

1739
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:42,840
Speaker 4: you and yeah, there's gonna be some controversy it comes

1740
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,559
Speaker 4: along with that, But how much positive stuff is going out? Like,

1741
01:28:45,600 --> 01:28:48,720
Speaker 4: think about it's not a good example right now, just

1742
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:51,719
Speaker 4: because they're struggling a little bit. But you know, around

1743
01:28:51,760 --> 01:28:54,040
Speaker 4: the turn of the century, even late nineties, somewhere in

1744
01:28:54,040 --> 01:28:56,880
Speaker 4: that neighborhood, think about NASCAR, Like NASCAR is going to

1745
01:28:56,920 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 4: have a niche audience outside of the South, but they

1746
01:28:59,080 --> 01:29:02,639
Speaker 4: started having person and nowadies, they started having drivers that

1747
01:29:03,160 --> 01:29:06,760
Speaker 4: people wanted to watch. And as a result, yeah, there's

1748
01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,040
Speaker 4: always going to be a ceiling to what NASCAR could do,

1749
01:29:09,560 --> 01:29:12,160
Speaker 4: but they did maximize that window and they need to

1750
01:29:12,200 --> 01:29:14,559
Speaker 4: find a way to do that again right now as

1751
01:29:14,600 --> 01:29:16,960
Speaker 4: a matter of fact. But that's what it is. Like

1752
01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:20,120
Speaker 4: you have to create something and it can't be pro

1753
01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:23,080
Speaker 4: wrestling controversy because you guys are just not good enough

1754
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:27,080
Speaker 4: at it. Like it just it doesn't No one has

1755
01:29:27,240 --> 01:29:32,479
Speaker 4: invested enough to sit around and watch the soap opera

1756
01:29:32,560 --> 01:29:35,479
Speaker 4: play out. They just move on. Like even with Kaitlyn Clark.

1757
01:29:35,520 --> 01:29:38,160
Speaker 4: We even said this on the show a few different times.

1758
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:40,200
Speaker 4: It's like, yeah, we're interested in seeing what Kaitlin's doing,

1759
01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:41,400
Speaker 4: but we're getting to the point where it's just like

1760
01:29:41,439 --> 01:29:43,519
Speaker 4: we're not even going to talk about her, like just

1761
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,680
Speaker 4: let's just move on, period, Like this is not a

1762
01:29:45,760 --> 01:29:47,600
Speaker 4: league that's worth talking about.

1763
01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:53,320
Speaker 2: I agree with basically all of that. And you know

1764
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:57,799
Speaker 2: the thing too, like you said, the likability. Yeah, listen,

1765
01:29:58,040 --> 01:29:58,920
Speaker 2: I understand.

1766
01:29:58,560 --> 01:29:59,960
Speaker 3: Everyone's going to make a livable wage.

1767
01:30:00,720 --> 01:30:04,000
Speaker 2: The way to get people to like you isn't to

1768
01:30:04,200 --> 01:30:07,080
Speaker 2: complain about money when you are not making any.

1769
01:30:07,160 --> 01:30:08,840
Speaker 3: And it's funny I'll say about this.

1770
01:30:08,960 --> 01:30:14,160
Speaker 2: I mean, what is attributed more than anything to the

1771
01:30:14,160 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 2: growth of the NBA. You know, it's obviously Magic and

1772
01:30:17,920 --> 01:30:19,920
Speaker 2: Bird and you know, Jordan kind of came in a

1773
01:30:19,960 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 2: little bit after that. Whatever, It's like imaginative Magic and Bird.

1774
01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:28,360
Speaker 2: When the league were on tape delay NBA Finals, nobody cared,

1775
01:30:29,200 --> 01:30:32,120
Speaker 2: you know, wearing t shirts that said pay us what

1776
01:30:32,200 --> 01:30:35,240
Speaker 2: you owe us, and it's like, it's just it's just

1777
01:30:35,320 --> 01:30:36,080
Speaker 2: so tone deaf.

1778
01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,639
Speaker 3: And I think that's the thing that that I keep

1779
01:30:38,680 --> 01:30:39,240
Speaker 3: coming back to.

1780
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:40,800
Speaker 2: And I know you basically just said the same thing,

1781
01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,040
Speaker 2: j Martin, So I apologize for basically repeating what you

1782
01:30:43,160 --> 01:30:46,679
Speaker 2: just said. Is that in the process of quote unquote

1783
01:30:46,720 --> 01:30:50,960
Speaker 2: trying to grow an audience, they are so unlikable and

1784
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:55,719
Speaker 2: they make it so hard to try to get behind them.

1785
01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:59,759
Speaker 2: They're not that they should be this feel good story.

1786
01:30:59,800 --> 01:31:02,320
Speaker 2: You know, they're finally, you know, we're finally to the

1787
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:04,760
Speaker 2: point where people are starting to pay attention. And it's

1788
01:31:04,800 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 2: like every time they get the spotlight, every time this

1789
01:31:07,920 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 2: league gets the spotlight, they screw something up. They're trying

1790
01:31:10,840 --> 01:31:16,040
Speaker 2: to fight Caitlyn Clark, They're trying to uh complain about racism.

1791
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:19,040
Speaker 3: They're you know, I think I saw some press conference yesterday.

1792
01:31:18,800 --> 01:31:21,720
Speaker 2: Where they're like, we stand with Angel Reese with all

1793
01:31:21,760 --> 01:31:23,400
Speaker 2: these terrible comments that she's getting.

1794
01:31:23,439 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 3: There's no terrible comments. Nobody cares that much. You know.

1795
01:31:27,200 --> 01:31:30,080
Speaker 2: By the way, I'm not gonna directly blame the WNBA

1796
01:31:30,120 --> 01:31:32,760
Speaker 2: players for this, but like the fake backlash to what

1797
01:31:32,800 --> 01:31:35,880
Speaker 2: we talked about earlier about Shane gillis, Oh my god,

1798
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:39,920
Speaker 2: it's okay to make jokes about the WNBA, just like

1799
01:31:39,960 --> 01:31:43,719
Speaker 2: it's okay to make jokes about NFL players, NBA players, Major.

1800
01:31:43,600 --> 01:31:45,040
Speaker 3: League Baseball, whatever.

1801
01:31:45,320 --> 01:31:48,599
Speaker 2: And I think that's the thing when you're obviously, look,

1802
01:31:48,680 --> 01:31:53,160
Speaker 2: every business is trying to grow, but the WNBA is

1803
01:31:53,400 --> 01:31:57,800
Speaker 2: again at this moment where they had this opportunity and

1804
01:31:57,840 --> 01:32:01,160
Speaker 2: they're not. It's not just that they're like lowing it,

1805
01:32:01,160 --> 01:32:06,280
Speaker 2: it's that they're actively choosing the wrong like the wrong

1806
01:32:06,360 --> 01:32:09,679
Speaker 2: decision every step of the way that they could be making,

1807
01:32:10,720 --> 01:32:13,160
Speaker 2: they are making it. You know, it's like I can't

1808
01:32:13,360 --> 01:32:15,960
Speaker 2: you know, like I don't, I don't know a great example,

1809
01:32:16,000 --> 01:32:18,720
Speaker 2: but it's like every decision that they could be making,

1810
01:32:18,720 --> 01:32:23,080
Speaker 2: instead of embracing Caitlin Clark, you know, opposite, instead of

1811
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,240
Speaker 2: putting Kitlin Clark on the Olympic team, opposite, instead of

1812
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:31,519
Speaker 2: you know, being celebrating an All Star game where there

1813
01:32:31,560 --> 01:32:33,360
Speaker 2: was a huge crowd they all obviously came to see

1814
01:32:33,400 --> 01:32:36,719
Speaker 2: Katelon Clark, but you make it a political statement.

1815
01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:42,200
Speaker 3: It's just it's just wild to me. Again that just

1816
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:44,880
Speaker 3: how they're handling that We're going in circles.

1817
01:32:44,920 --> 01:32:47,320
Speaker 4: But it's just yeah, well, like so this is a

1818
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:52,679
Speaker 4: it's a weird example because at one point, this this league,

1819
01:32:52,920 --> 01:32:58,599
Speaker 4: so to speak, was one of the most valuable on Earth. Marvel,

1820
01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:04,520
Speaker 4: Marvel the films were absolutely like I mean, just gangbusters.

1821
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:07,559
Speaker 4: Everything to have Marvel attached to it made money. Everything,

1822
01:33:07,600 --> 01:33:11,400
Speaker 4: even like the side stories prior to the First Avengers,

1823
01:33:11,960 --> 01:33:14,200
Speaker 4: prior to the Second Avengers, all that kind of stuff

1824
01:33:14,240 --> 01:33:17,960
Speaker 4: leading through Endgame was just printing money. But over the

1825
01:33:18,040 --> 01:33:22,080
Speaker 4: last like four years or so, maybe even longer, actually

1826
01:33:24,439 --> 01:33:28,240
Speaker 4: it's been diminishing returns, and in some cases, actually a

1827
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:31,880
Speaker 4: lot of cases, it's been outright flops, like in a

1828
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:35,479
Speaker 4: Row Fantastic four. It may flop, in fact, it probably will.

1829
01:33:35,880 --> 01:33:39,719
Speaker 4: But one of the things that has played into this, Yes,

1830
01:33:39,760 --> 01:33:42,120
Speaker 4: some of the stories have been badly written in all this,

1831
01:33:42,600 --> 01:33:47,640
Speaker 4: but the actors have decided to make political statements. The

1832
01:33:47,720 --> 01:33:50,960
Speaker 4: actors have stepped out and said stuff and done stuff

1833
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:55,040
Speaker 4: Anthony Mackie and you could easily read it as anti

1834
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:57,799
Speaker 4: American stuff. And then you've got, of course the writing

1835
01:33:57,840 --> 01:33:59,680
Speaker 4: that's going in that same direction and all that. But

1836
01:34:00,280 --> 01:34:02,320
Speaker 4: if the movies aren't as good as they used to be,

1837
01:34:02,439 --> 01:34:05,120
Speaker 4: then the people need to be quiet and just be

1838
01:34:05,240 --> 01:34:07,679
Speaker 4: as likable as humanly possible, so at the very least

1839
01:34:07,760 --> 01:34:09,960
Speaker 4: will pay to see you, because we don't have a

1840
01:34:09,960 --> 01:34:13,320
Speaker 4: reason to dislike you. But when Brie Larsen keeps putting

1841
01:34:13,320 --> 01:34:15,200
Speaker 4: her foot in her mouth, then we're not gonna go

1842
01:34:15,200 --> 01:34:18,240
Speaker 4: see the Marvels. Nobody's going to anyway, But you know,

1843
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:20,759
Speaker 4: like Captain Marvel or whatever like that. It's the same

1844
01:34:20,880 --> 01:34:24,799
Speaker 4: kind of thing. The product as it has become worse,

1845
01:34:25,560 --> 01:34:29,479
Speaker 4: then the stars need to be less present out there

1846
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,280
Speaker 4: saying a bunch of controversial stuff because they don't have

1847
01:34:32,320 --> 01:34:34,800
Speaker 4: people on their side right now. They just need to

1848
01:34:34,800 --> 01:34:38,280
Speaker 4: get people buying tickets to see movies. If you're the WNBA,

1849
01:34:38,400 --> 01:34:40,360
Speaker 4: you need to have people watching, You need to have

1850
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:43,440
Speaker 4: people going to the games. You have people buying merchandise,

1851
01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:48,840
Speaker 4: people having a positive feeling about your league. And everything

1852
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:53,400
Speaker 4: you do does the exact opposite of that. It makes

1853
01:34:53,439 --> 01:34:57,200
Speaker 4: you actively not want to watch. It makes you actively

1854
01:34:57,360 --> 01:35:02,120
Speaker 4: almost root against the league even exists, certainly succeeding. And

1855
01:35:02,160 --> 01:35:04,960
Speaker 4: then they're telling you it's time for expansion. Now it's

1856
01:35:05,000 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 4: really not. It's really really not like it is time

1857
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:12,519
Speaker 4: for expansion, and a lot of in whoever has got

1858
01:35:12,560 --> 01:35:15,759
Speaker 4: the television deal, it's time for expansion in their coverage

1859
01:35:15,840 --> 01:35:18,960
Speaker 4: to where they can actually show other stuff. Because the

1860
01:35:19,080 --> 01:35:22,160
Speaker 4: WNBA is not in a position to add teams, they're

1861
01:35:22,240 --> 01:35:24,800
Speaker 4: not in a position to go out there and do

1862
01:35:24,840 --> 01:35:27,000
Speaker 4: this kind of stuff in front of the public. Again,

1863
01:35:27,120 --> 01:35:30,600
Speaker 4: do it behind closed doors where you should handle negotiations.

1864
01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,600
Speaker 4: Nobody's gonna be upset if it comes out and it

1865
01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:35,200
Speaker 4: says you guys won, but the public. We're not going

1866
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:39,280
Speaker 4: to protest outside of NBA buildings to get WNBA players

1867
01:35:39,320 --> 01:35:40,960
Speaker 4: more money, Like, what are we doing here?

1868
01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 2: It is absolutely insane for people who missed it. WNBA

1869
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:49,200
Speaker 2: players wearing shirts that said pay us what you owe

1870
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:53,559
Speaker 2: us a league that has lost money for thirty straight years.

1871
01:35:53,680 --> 01:35:54,160
Speaker 3: Unbelievable.

1872
01:35:54,200 --> 01:35:56,840
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Erratorards Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

1873
01:35:56,880 --> 01:35:58,440
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1874
01:35:58,720 --> 01:36:02,680
Speaker 3: You know what else is unbelievable? Nick Saban returning to

1875
01:36:02,720 --> 01:36:06,080
Speaker 3: coaching or is it unbelievable? We'll discuss that next Fox.

1876
01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:06,800
Speaker 8: Sports Radio.

1877
01:36:09,680 --> 01:36:13,439
Speaker 2: Welcome back, everybody, Fox Sports Radio er Toords Jason Martin,

1878
01:36:13,479 --> 01:36:16,320
Speaker 2: broadcasting live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios.

1879
01:36:17,080 --> 01:36:20,120
Speaker 3: Thirty six minutes from now. Chris Plank follows us.

1880
01:36:20,280 --> 01:36:23,759
Speaker 2: Cannot wait to hear what Plank has to say about

1881
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:27,760
Speaker 2: the last week or so. Plank, of course, the Oklahoma

1882
01:36:28,439 --> 01:36:31,080
Speaker 2: sideline reporter for Oklahoma Football. Don't know if he was

1883
01:36:31,120 --> 01:36:35,599
Speaker 2: at SEC Media Day's Jamart, but let's talk about one

1884
01:36:35,600 --> 01:36:37,439
Speaker 2: piece of news that did come out of there. Before

1885
01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,040
Speaker 2: we do, we should mention be sure to check out

1886
01:36:39,040 --> 01:36:40,800
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio YouTube channel, where I.

1887
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:42,280
Speaker 3: Know a lot of our hosts talked about the topic.

1888
01:36:42,320 --> 01:36:44,639
Speaker 2: We're gonna get to a ton of great videos from

1889
01:36:44,720 --> 01:36:46,519
Speaker 2: many of our Fox Sports Radio shows.

1890
01:36:46,880 --> 01:36:48,439
Speaker 3: Just search Fox Sports Radio on YouTube.

1891
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,240
Speaker 2: You'll see a whole bunch of video highlights from all

1892
01:36:50,240 --> 01:36:52,559
Speaker 2: of our shows, and be sure to subscribe so you

1893
01:36:52,600 --> 01:36:55,960
Speaker 2: always have instant access to our Fox Sports Radio videos

1894
01:36:56,040 --> 01:36:57,040
Speaker 2: on YouTube.

1895
01:36:57,360 --> 01:37:00,639
Speaker 3: So we mentioned Plank mentioned SEC Media Days.

1896
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:05,880
Speaker 2: Weirdly, the biggest story that probably came out of Media

1897
01:37:05,960 --> 01:37:09,080
Speaker 2: Days had nothing to do with any of the teams

1898
01:37:09,120 --> 01:37:12,120
Speaker 2: that were there directly, I guess you would say, but

1899
01:37:12,240 --> 01:37:15,280
Speaker 2: instead the man that was not Nick Saban, of course,

1900
01:37:15,360 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 2: former Alabama head coach now working for ESPN. It was

1901
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:22,240
Speaker 2: interesting he covered SEC Media Days last year for SEC

1902
01:37:22,280 --> 01:37:23,400
Speaker 2: Network in ESPN.

1903
01:37:23,760 --> 01:37:25,439
Speaker 3: He was not there this.

1904
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:29,040
Speaker 2: Year, but I bring it up because his former player,

1905
01:37:29,479 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 2: Greg McElroy had some very interesting comments about about his

1906
01:37:36,000 --> 01:37:39,920
Speaker 2: former head coach Nick Saban. I'm gonna find him really quick.

1907
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,000
Speaker 2: This is what he said, Let's take a quick look.

1908
01:37:44,040 --> 01:37:47,479
Speaker 2: Obviously he said, let's take a look here. It's a

1909
01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:49,320
Speaker 2: bit on a left field. But the question was asked

1910
01:37:49,320 --> 01:37:51,559
Speaker 2: to me a very much in the no person that

1911
01:37:51,600 --> 01:37:53,080
Speaker 2: I have a lot of respect for and to spend

1912
01:37:53,080 --> 01:37:56,719
Speaker 2: a time around, just really really Admires said, they seem

1913
01:37:56,800 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 2: to think Nick Saban's not done coaching. I had a

1914
01:37:59,200 --> 01:38:02,639
Speaker 2: similar reaction he's pretty adamant that he thinks Nick Saban

1915
01:38:02,680 --> 01:38:06,040
Speaker 2: will be coaching again. Look, if it wasn't from someone notable,

1916
01:38:06,120 --> 01:38:11,040
Speaker 2: I'd never say a word. Nick Saba's daughter has since

1917
01:38:11,320 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 2: rebuked that report, but it was interesting and it got

1918
01:38:15,400 --> 01:38:18,000
Speaker 2: me thinking, do you think, j Mark, do you think

1919
01:38:18,040 --> 01:38:22,799
Speaker 2: there's any way, any scenario that Nick Saban ever coaches

1920
01:38:23,160 --> 01:38:26,200
Speaker 2: mainstream football again, beat at the college level or of

1921
01:38:26,200 --> 01:38:26,639
Speaker 2: the NFL.

1922
01:38:27,560 --> 01:38:30,280
Speaker 4: I mean there's always a way. I mean, if you

1923
01:38:30,520 --> 01:38:33,479
Speaker 4: have read into like Saban's history, you know his wife

1924
01:38:33,960 --> 01:38:36,240
Speaker 4: really makes a lot of the Yep, She's the one

1925
01:38:36,280 --> 01:38:37,920
Speaker 4: that carries a lot of weight when it comes to

1926
01:38:38,840 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 4: helping him make these decisions. Terry has a lot of

1927
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 4: power and he respects her quite a bit, So I

1928
01:38:45,080 --> 01:38:46,640
Speaker 4: think a lot of it comes down to what she

1929
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,160
Speaker 4: wants for the family. And then the other question is

1930
01:38:50,160 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 4: like is he having fun doing what he's doing? Is

1931
01:38:51,960 --> 01:38:54,760
Speaker 4: he cool not doing the football thing? Like he was

1932
01:38:54,800 --> 01:38:57,400
Speaker 4: great on TV? And I think a lot of us

1933
01:38:57,400 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 4: thought he was gonna be, But he was even better,

1934
01:38:59,720 --> 01:39:02,920
Speaker 4: I thought than the many assumed he would be. And

1935
01:39:03,000 --> 01:39:06,120
Speaker 4: so he's got that if he wants it, and he

1936
01:39:06,160 --> 01:39:08,360
Speaker 4: could do that forever, and he didn't have to recruit

1937
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:11,559
Speaker 4: and deal with what all of that is now. I

1938
01:39:11,560 --> 01:39:15,600
Speaker 4: think he's done as far as college football goes. I

1939
01:39:15,600 --> 01:39:18,320
Speaker 4: think the only chance that you see him again is

1940
01:39:18,360 --> 01:39:22,040
Speaker 4: in the NFL, And if I had to bet on it,

1941
01:39:22,040 --> 01:39:24,320
Speaker 4: I would say it will not happen. That's just my

1942
01:39:24,720 --> 01:39:27,880
Speaker 4: personal feeling on it. But I do not think that

1943
01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,519
Speaker 4: he is going to do anything post Alabama and college

1944
01:39:30,520 --> 01:39:33,160
Speaker 4: football because the reason that he left college football has

1945
01:39:33,160 --> 01:39:36,400
Speaker 4: not gotten better, It's gotten worse. Like the biggest reason

1946
01:39:36,439 --> 01:39:39,000
Speaker 4: he left is because of what college football is becoming

1947
01:39:39,439 --> 01:39:41,880
Speaker 4: and what you have to do now. I just don't

1948
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:43,720
Speaker 4: think he is in it for that. I don't think

1949
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:45,439
Speaker 4: he wants a part of that, like a lot of

1950
01:39:45,760 --> 01:39:48,720
Speaker 4: coaches that have kind of moved on or changed what

1951
01:39:48,760 --> 01:39:51,759
Speaker 4: they are doing. But would he like to have another

1952
01:39:51,800 --> 01:39:55,160
Speaker 4: crack at the NFL. Yeah, I think he might, so

1953
01:39:55,240 --> 01:39:58,800
Speaker 4: that would be My only feeling is if he got

1954
01:39:58,800 --> 01:40:00,639
Speaker 4: the itch, if he still wants to prove he could

1955
01:40:00,680 --> 01:40:03,960
Speaker 4: do it at that level, the NFL is the only

1956
01:40:04,000 --> 01:40:05,679
Speaker 4: place I could see him going. I think he's done

1957
01:40:05,720 --> 01:40:07,919
Speaker 4: as far as college football is it's concerned.

1958
01:40:08,200 --> 01:40:10,479
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, actually so this was part of a

1959
01:40:10,520 --> 01:40:15,120
Speaker 2: conversation with Paul Finebaum of SEC Network on Greg McElroy's

1960
01:40:15,200 --> 01:40:16,439
Speaker 2: radio show with Cole Kublick.

1961
01:40:16,920 --> 01:40:19,920
Speaker 3: And you know, Paul fine Baum.

1962
01:40:19,880 --> 01:40:23,400
Speaker 2: Is never afraid to say something to stir things up.

1963
01:40:23,680 --> 01:40:25,559
Speaker 2: And I actually thought, well, no, But I actually thought

1964
01:40:25,600 --> 01:40:28,240
Speaker 2: Paul Finemum was the voice of reason here. And you know,

1965
01:40:28,280 --> 01:40:30,360
Speaker 2: he talked about you know, being able to golf and

1966
01:40:30,400 --> 01:40:31,960
Speaker 2: all the stuff you can do when you're retired.

1967
01:40:32,320 --> 01:40:33,160
Speaker 3: But he also said this.

1968
01:40:33,240 --> 01:40:35,680
Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting he said, this is from

1969
01:40:35,720 --> 01:40:38,160
Speaker 2: Paul Finebaum in the conversation. He said he had a

1970
01:40:38,200 --> 01:40:42,160
Speaker 2: better situation at Alabama the day he left than anywhere

1971
01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:44,680
Speaker 2: he goes let's say in the next year. Now I

1972
01:40:44,720 --> 01:40:46,479
Speaker 2: don't know whether he goes college or pros. Then he

1973
01:40:46,520 --> 01:40:48,599
Speaker 2: gets into the NFL, maybe it would make more sense.

1974
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:53,320
Speaker 2: That's the part to me that I just I don't get,

1975
01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:58,080
Speaker 2: is that I just there's never gonna be a better

1976
01:40:58,160 --> 01:41:01,639
Speaker 2: situation for him at the college level than what he

1977
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,080
Speaker 2: left at Alabama. I mean, no matter where he goes,

1978
01:41:04,560 --> 01:41:07,240
Speaker 2: you know, you're inherently taking over a place that's probably

1979
01:41:07,320 --> 01:41:09,000
Speaker 2: kind of a mess. And even if it's a place

1980
01:41:09,040 --> 01:41:12,519
Speaker 2: that you can win, I don't know that he's gonna

1981
01:41:12,560 --> 01:41:15,120
Speaker 2: spend the next you know, three four, five years, however

1982
01:41:15,200 --> 01:41:16,400
Speaker 2: much time he has left doing it.

1983
01:41:16,479 --> 01:41:17,599
Speaker 3: So I'm with you.

1984
01:41:18,560 --> 01:41:21,840
Speaker 2: I think it's an interesting headline. I don't know that

1985
01:41:21,880 --> 01:41:23,800
Speaker 2: there's that much meat on the bone when you really

1986
01:41:23,800 --> 01:41:25,920
Speaker 2: think about it. And you know, I think the other

1987
01:41:25,960 --> 01:41:27,360
Speaker 2: thing too really quick, because I want to get to

1988
01:41:27,360 --> 01:41:32,960
Speaker 2: disager is I think it would ultimately, unless of course,

1989
01:41:33,000 --> 01:41:36,479
Speaker 2: he came back in one a national championship in the

1990
01:41:36,520 --> 01:41:39,479
Speaker 2: next place, I think it would only hurt his legacy,

1991
01:41:39,560 --> 01:41:41,559
Speaker 2: right He's like, you know, I was thinking about this,

1992
01:41:41,600 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 2: like with Belichick, like I might you might disagree with

1993
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 2: me on this, and I'm actually curious for your perspective.

1994
01:41:47,439 --> 01:41:50,840
Speaker 2: I actually don't think the North Carolina thing is going

1995
01:41:50,880 --> 01:41:53,320
Speaker 2: to really hurt his legacy. I think even if he

1996
01:41:53,400 --> 01:41:56,639
Speaker 2: bottoms out, he's still the six time Super Bowl champ

1997
01:41:57,040 --> 01:42:00,360
Speaker 2: and it kind of hurts that the argument of like, Okay,

1998
01:42:00,400 --> 01:42:03,120
Speaker 2: well he really didn't do much without Brady. But I

1999
01:42:03,439 --> 01:42:06,240
Speaker 2: think even if Belichick, I think if he comes, if

2000
01:42:06,240 --> 01:42:07,960
Speaker 2: he stays two or three years and it's kind of

2001
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,000
Speaker 2: a weird thing and it's kind of a disaster. Like

2002
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,880
Speaker 2: I think Belichick's legacy is kind of set and I

2003
01:42:12,880 --> 01:42:15,840
Speaker 2: think it can only be enhanced by what he does

2004
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,240
Speaker 2: at Carolina, because I don't think most people expect him

2005
01:42:18,280 --> 01:42:21,400
Speaker 2: to come in and actually have real success, and so

2006
01:42:21,439 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 2: I just bring it up because I think Saban's the

2007
01:42:22,920 --> 01:42:25,679
Speaker 2: exact opposite is. I think it would be very hard

2008
01:42:25,760 --> 01:42:29,000
Speaker 2: for him to enhance his legacy by returning, and in

2009
01:42:29,000 --> 01:42:30,519
Speaker 2: a lot of ways, I think it would only hurt

2010
01:42:30,520 --> 01:42:33,280
Speaker 2: it if he came back somewhere that wasn't built to win,

2011
01:42:33,360 --> 01:42:35,559
Speaker 2: or he went back in the NFL and didn't win again,

2012
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:36,439
Speaker 2: things like that.

2013
01:42:37,080 --> 01:42:39,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't really have anything to add there. I mean,

2014
01:42:39,160 --> 01:42:42,559
Speaker 4: I think that's one hundred percent right. I mean, you've

2015
01:42:42,560 --> 01:42:45,240
Speaker 4: already been at the top of the mountain. You're already

2016
01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:47,559
Speaker 4: at least I think a lot of people would say

2017
01:42:47,560 --> 01:42:51,800
Speaker 4: the greatest college football coach ever, certainly one of the

2018
01:42:51,960 --> 01:42:54,960
Speaker 4: select few that is going to you're really going to

2019
01:42:55,000 --> 01:42:57,320
Speaker 4: be able to make that argument and make it stand.

2020
01:42:57,760 --> 01:43:01,000
Speaker 4: It would be my answer. Yeah, there's no reason to

2021
01:43:01,040 --> 01:43:03,439
Speaker 4: come back. There's not. You've already done it at a

2022
01:43:03,479 --> 01:43:07,040
Speaker 4: place where the expectations couldn't be any higher, and you've

2023
01:43:07,080 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 4: done it at LSU as well, which obviously has a

2024
01:43:09,400 --> 01:43:12,679
Speaker 4: lot of expectations, and again, I think it's less about

2025
01:43:12,760 --> 01:43:15,400
Speaker 4: the legacy, or I think the legacy is important, but

2026
01:43:15,400 --> 01:43:17,680
Speaker 4: I also just think it's not a fun place to

2027
01:43:17,720 --> 01:43:19,920
Speaker 4: be for a guy like Nick Saban. Now it's just

2028
01:43:19,960 --> 01:43:23,360
Speaker 4: not the same universe that it was, and the advantages

2029
01:43:23,400 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 4: that you had found a way to create over time,

2030
01:43:26,720 --> 01:43:29,559
Speaker 4: some of that stuff's been eliminated at this point. And

2031
01:43:29,600 --> 01:43:32,840
Speaker 4: I think that if there is anything that sticks in

2032
01:43:32,880 --> 01:43:36,559
Speaker 4: his crawl is I could have done it in the NFL. Yeah,

2033
01:43:36,560 --> 01:43:39,799
Speaker 4: I took the Alabama job, all that kind of stuff,

2034
01:43:40,040 --> 01:43:42,080
Speaker 4: But again, you know, you go back to he was

2035
01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:45,280
Speaker 4: in Miami and they almost had Drew Brees, and you

2036
01:43:45,400 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 4: never know what happens if that one thing changes and

2037
01:43:48,600 --> 01:43:51,000
Speaker 4: they end up with Drew Brees's quarterback. Who knows, maybe

2038
01:43:51,000 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 4: it never even goes to Alabama. You never know. But

2039
01:43:54,000 --> 01:43:57,559
Speaker 4: is he still sitting there saying that that's that's the

2040
01:43:59,280 --> 01:44:01,320
Speaker 4: you know, that's that's the animal that's gotten a way

2041
01:44:01,320 --> 01:44:04,680
Speaker 4: that isn't on my wall right now. And if that

2042
01:44:05,880 --> 01:44:08,880
Speaker 4: is something that he still wants to chase, I think

2043
01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:10,840
Speaker 4: that'll be out there for him. But I just don't

2044
01:44:10,880 --> 01:44:13,519
Speaker 4: see a universe where college football makes any sense for him.

2045
01:44:13,600 --> 01:44:16,160
Speaker 4: As far as coaching. Again, he's a great analyst, and

2046
01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:17,920
Speaker 4: I think he can still be around the game that way.

2047
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:20,920
Speaker 4: But I can't imagine you would again. You've done it

2048
01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,320
Speaker 4: at Alabama. There's nowhere else to do it that's going

2049
01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:24,479
Speaker 4: to make it any more fun.

2050
01:44:25,760 --> 01:44:29,599
Speaker 2: Don't disagree. I think it's a fun headline. I don't

2051
01:44:29,600 --> 01:44:31,599
Speaker 2: think there's much meat on that bone. And the funny

2052
01:44:31,640 --> 01:44:34,000
Speaker 2: thing is Greg McElroy does not strike me as the

2053
01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:36,240
Speaker 2: kind of guy that says stuff just for the sake

2054
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:39,000
Speaker 2: of saying it, So I mean, I think he probably

2055
01:44:39,040 --> 01:44:41,800
Speaker 2: really believed the person that he spoke to. But I'm

2056
01:44:41,800 --> 01:44:45,640
Speaker 2: actually with Paul Feinbaum on this what I think, great headline.

2057
01:44:45,800 --> 01:44:47,200
Speaker 3: I don't think there's much to the story.

2058
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:50,479
Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio air tors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from

2059
01:44:50,479 --> 01:44:55,080
Speaker 2: the Fox Sports Radio studios, will come back. Big story

2060
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: out of the NBA this week or was it? We'll

2061
01:44:58,000 --> 01:45:00,280
Speaker 2: explain next. Let's get it over the news desk though,

2062
01:45:00,360 --> 01:45:02,880
Speaker 2: final time this evening, Steve de Seger, what's trending?

2063
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,519
Speaker 9: You reference Bill Belichick's North Carolina tar Heels, a program that,

2064
01:45:06,600 --> 01:45:08,759
Speaker 9: by the way, lost its bowl game to Yukon.

2065
01:45:08,880 --> 01:45:12,599
Speaker 2: They shared it first game of the Belichick era at

2066
01:45:12,640 --> 01:45:14,320
Speaker 2: North Carolina Bowl lost to Yukon.

2067
01:45:14,479 --> 01:45:17,200
Speaker 9: They will be playing Yukon in a year, by the way,

2068
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:19,840
Speaker 9: that is on the future schedule. But this year's North

2069
01:45:19,880 --> 01:45:23,000
Speaker 9: Carolina schedule is this. They open on the first Monday

2070
01:45:23,040 --> 01:45:25,840
Speaker 9: night at September against TCU, a team that started five

2071
01:45:25,880 --> 01:45:28,559
Speaker 9: and four last year, and then it's the tar Heels

2072
01:45:28,560 --> 01:45:32,040
Speaker 9: against Charlotte Richmond and UCF, and then just a bunch

2073
01:45:32,040 --> 01:45:34,839
Speaker 9: of ACC games after that, including Callen Stanford.

2074
01:45:34,920 --> 01:45:38,800
Speaker 2: I will say people are really down on Belichick. Even

2075
01:45:38,840 --> 01:45:42,879
Speaker 2: by ACC schedules. The schedule is very vegetable. They have clemsing,

2076
01:45:43,080 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 2: but no Florida State, no Miami.

2077
01:45:45,080 --> 01:45:45,680
Speaker 3: I believe in.

2078
01:45:45,840 --> 01:45:49,479
Speaker 9: Some would use words other than manageable. But yes, it

2079
01:45:49,600 --> 01:45:53,800
Speaker 9: is that not good. Monetizable yeah yeah too.

2080
01:45:53,960 --> 01:45:56,680
Speaker 2: If they can't monetize some wins off that schedule, Belichick

2081
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,560
Speaker 2: should just retire to Nantucket.

2082
01:45:58,560 --> 01:45:59,000
Speaker 4: I think so.

2083
01:45:59,320 --> 01:46:02,320
Speaker 9: We do have a final from UFC three to eighteen

2084
01:46:02,400 --> 01:46:05,479
Speaker 9: in New Orleans. The career of Dustin Poie is over.

2085
01:46:05,600 --> 01:46:09,320
Speaker 9: He's retired after losing by unanimous decision to Champ Max

2086
01:46:09,360 --> 01:46:12,920
Speaker 9: holloway Manny Pacio was fighting in Vegas tonight at age

2087
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:14,720
Speaker 9: forty six, he'd had four years off.

2088
01:46:14,760 --> 01:46:17,160
Speaker 8: He fought to a majority draw. He did not win.

2089
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:22,240
Speaker 9: Mario Barrios keeps his WBC welterweight title. Two judges had

2090
01:46:22,240 --> 01:46:24,760
Speaker 9: it even at one fourteen, the other scored at four

2091
01:46:24,840 --> 01:46:30,320
Speaker 9: Barrios and in London tenants at Wembley Stadium, about ninety thousand,

2092
01:46:30,360 --> 01:46:35,519
Speaker 9: boxer Alexander Usik was the winner. He's now undisputed heavyweight champion,

2093
01:46:35,640 --> 01:46:39,679
Speaker 9: owning all four title belts. As for the late ballgame,

2094
01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:43,080
Speaker 9: it has just ended. In eleven innings at Seattle. The

2095
01:46:43,120 --> 01:46:47,280
Speaker 9: Mariners take it six seven to six over the Houston Astros.

2096
01:46:47,320 --> 01:46:49,439
Speaker 9: Each team had scored a run in the tenth. The

2097
01:46:49,479 --> 01:46:51,960
Speaker 9: Mariners tied it, scoring on a wild pitch in the

2098
01:46:52,000 --> 01:46:54,920
Speaker 9: bottom of the eighth inning. More baseball. In a moment,

2099
01:46:54,960 --> 01:46:57,760
Speaker 9: Guard Marcus Smart agreed to a buyout with the Wizards

2100
01:46:57,760 --> 01:47:01,040
Speaker 9: and will reportedly signed with the Lakers the FISA. Collier

2101
01:47:01,160 --> 01:47:04,160
Speaker 9: was game MVP at the WNBA All Star Game tonight,

2102
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:07,840
Speaker 9: scoring a record thirty six points. Skyler Dickens Diggins had

2103
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,920
Speaker 9: a triple double with fifteen assists, and it was you know,

2104
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:12,439
Speaker 9: this is an All Star game, not a lot of

2105
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:15,360
Speaker 9: minutes to be had. With the various players a high

2106
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:18,360
Speaker 9: scoring game to say the least one fifty one to

2107
01:47:18,479 --> 01:47:22,160
Speaker 9: one thirty one. Team Collier takes it over Team Clark.

2108
01:47:22,240 --> 01:47:24,960
Speaker 9: Caitlin Clark injured did not play. The Saints gave second

2109
01:47:25,000 --> 01:47:28,800
Speaker 9: round quarterback Tyler Shuck a fully guaranteed contract, Bengals first

2110
01:47:28,920 --> 01:47:32,800
Speaker 9: round defensive end Shamar Stewart still unsigned. Scottie Scheffler led

2111
01:47:32,840 --> 01:47:35,519
Speaker 9: the open by four strokes after his third round sixty

2112
01:47:35,560 --> 01:47:38,960
Speaker 9: seven on Saturday. The Milwaukee Brewers have won nine straight,

2113
01:47:39,360 --> 01:47:42,639
Speaker 9: including five in a row against the Dodgers, recently eight

2114
01:47:42,760 --> 01:47:46,080
Speaker 9: seven the final in LA. Although Shoheo Tani Homert his

2115
01:47:46,200 --> 01:47:49,559
Speaker 9: thirty third shortstop Mookie Betts was given the night off

2116
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:52,519
Speaker 9: by LA. He's batting two forty one and just one

2117
01:47:52,600 --> 01:47:55,559
Speaker 9: eighty eights the batting average this month. The Cubs hit

2118
01:47:55,640 --> 01:47:58,519
Speaker 9: five solo homers and shut out Boston six to nothing

2119
01:47:58,560 --> 01:48:00,280
Speaker 9: in the game that most of the country got on

2120
01:48:00,360 --> 01:48:03,519
Speaker 9: Fox TV. Winning pitchers show to Imanaga pitched seven innings,

2121
01:48:03,560 --> 01:48:07,680
Speaker 9: now seven and three, Colorado's record is twenty four and

2122
01:48:07,760 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 9: seventy four after a win over Minnesota ten to six.

2123
01:48:11,200 --> 01:48:14,160
Speaker 9: The win to Antonio Senzatel he went seven innings, had

2124
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:17,120
Speaker 9: been three and thirteen this year Arizona ten to one

2125
01:48:17,120 --> 01:48:20,160
Speaker 9: over Saint Louis Auhennio Suarez two more homers. He has

2126
01:48:20,240 --> 01:48:24,320
Speaker 9: thirty three homers eighty one RBIs. They beat the Cardinals

2127
01:48:24,360 --> 01:48:27,040
Speaker 9: in sunny gray. The Yanks won twelve nine at Atlanta.

2128
01:48:27,080 --> 01:48:28,960
Speaker 9: Trent Grisham of Grand slam in the top of the

2129
01:48:29,080 --> 01:48:31,160
Speaker 9: ninth Tampa Bay with three in the bottom of the

2130
01:48:31,160 --> 01:48:33,960
Speaker 9: eighth edge Baltimore four to three wins for the A's

2131
01:48:33,960 --> 01:48:37,080
Speaker 9: in white Sox. Washington beat the Padres and you Darvish

2132
01:48:37,120 --> 01:48:39,800
Speaker 9: four to two Texas said Detroit to a sixth straight

2133
01:48:39,840 --> 01:48:43,519
Speaker 9: loss for to one Philadelphia winner. The Mets lost Phillies

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Speaker 9: first in the NL e is now game and a

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Speaker 9: half over the Mets and a reminder. MLB Speedway Classic

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Speaker 9: is in two weeks.

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Speaker 8: A ballgame at.

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Speaker 9: Bristol Motor Speedway Saturday nights, August second, Braves against the

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Speaker 9: Reds on Fox TV.

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Speaker 8: Back to you.

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01:49:00,120 --> 01:49:03,479
Speaker 3: Here, cannot wait wait yeah, no, it would be fun.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you to Saga, Saga, have a great evening. I

2143
01:49:05,800 --> 01:49:08,960
Speaker 2: assume you're back to you're on what is your preseason

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01:49:09,000 --> 01:49:09,559
Speaker 2: stuff start?

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01:49:09,600 --> 01:49:10,639
Speaker 3: Because you're with the Chargers.

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01:49:10,720 --> 01:49:13,559
Speaker 9: Are three weeks away, and yeah, I've got some other

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01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:16,760
Speaker 9: I think I'm missing two Saturday nights and oh no.

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01:49:16,600 --> 01:49:18,960
Speaker 8: Sorry about that. It's okay, say in an advance.

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01:49:18,800 --> 01:49:19,400
Speaker 3: No, it's okay.

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01:49:19,479 --> 01:49:21,400
Speaker 2: Listen to this guy took off two Saturdays in a

2151
01:49:21,439 --> 01:49:23,240
Speaker 2: row and got yelled at by Arnie span here.

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01:49:23,360 --> 01:49:25,519
Speaker 3: You know it is what it is, Arnie.

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01:49:25,520 --> 01:49:26,160
Speaker 8: I believe is.

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01:49:26,479 --> 01:49:29,120
Speaker 9: I think Arnie is filling in one weeknight and Plank

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01:49:29,200 --> 01:49:30,599
Speaker 9: another weeknight the coming week.

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01:49:30,760 --> 01:49:32,000
Speaker 8: Okay, I believe.

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01:49:31,720 --> 01:49:34,240
Speaker 2: So all right, well, Plank is coming up here in

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01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,559
Speaker 2: twenty two minutes. Thank you to Sega. Have a great evening.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio ertors Jason Martin, broadcasting live from the

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Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio Studios. Tell you what, uh let's uh

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Speaker 2: come back when we do, We'll do NBA.

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Speaker 3: We will wrap the show. And how about this.

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01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:55,800
Speaker 2: We gotta gotta talk about a little bit of a

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Speaker 2: pop culture story coming this week that every sports fan

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Speaker 2: will be intrigued by. This is Fox Sports Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 2: back everybody, Fox Sports Radio air Torris Jason Martin, broadcasting

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Speaker 2: posted after we get off air. Jabar a couple quick

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01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:35,240
Speaker 2: NBA topics I want to get to, you know, one

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01:50:35,320 --> 01:50:38,439
Speaker 2: that's semi pressing. And I saw Chris Plank who's following

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Speaker 2: us at about fifteen minutes, that he plans on talking about it.

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Speaker 2: This did happen today, Marcus Smart going to the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Does that move the needle at all for you?

2181
01:50:47,720 --> 01:50:50,719
Speaker 4: Not really other than that Luca made it happen, yep,

2182
01:50:52,080 --> 01:50:54,280
Speaker 4: said he wanted to play with him. He's been heard

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01:50:54,320 --> 01:50:55,800
Speaker 4: a lot. I think he only played like I think

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01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:57,880
Speaker 4: he's only played what fifty four games in the last

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01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:02,760
Speaker 4: two years, yep or something like that. But obviously defensive

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01:51:03,080 --> 01:51:05,400
Speaker 4: wizard when he's out there, and he's a real irritant

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01:51:05,520 --> 01:51:08,519
Speaker 4: as well so, but in kind of a good way

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01:51:08,680 --> 01:51:10,439
Speaker 4: as opposed to some of the guys like a like

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01:51:10,479 --> 01:51:13,680
Speaker 4: a Dylan Brooks or something like that. I mean, I

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01:51:13,720 --> 01:51:15,320
Speaker 4: don't think it's a bad move. I think he was

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01:51:15,320 --> 01:51:17,960
Speaker 4: a super popular guy in almost every locker room that

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01:51:18,000 --> 01:51:20,120
Speaker 4: he's been in. This gives him a chance to play

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01:51:20,120 --> 01:51:22,880
Speaker 4: on a team that people actually want to watch and

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01:51:23,040 --> 01:51:26,439
Speaker 4: care about, so maybe that'll inspire him. I don't know

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01:51:26,479 --> 01:51:28,800
Speaker 4: what it means to them now, because I don't know

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01:51:28,840 --> 01:51:31,160
Speaker 4: what he's got left, and I'm not sure about his

2197
01:51:31,240 --> 01:51:35,080
Speaker 4: health and things like that. But you know, Luca is

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01:51:35,120 --> 01:51:37,800
Speaker 4: clearly you know, looking at what he wants to do

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01:51:37,840 --> 01:51:41,200
Speaker 4: in the future there before he signs the extension or

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01:51:41,240 --> 01:51:43,040
Speaker 4: whatever it is he's going to do here in this

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01:51:43,160 --> 01:51:45,559
Speaker 4: next few weeks. So I don't know how much it

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01:51:45,600 --> 01:51:47,960
Speaker 4: moves the needle, but I certainly actually did look at

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01:51:47,960 --> 01:51:49,320
Speaker 4: the story and kind of say, huh, well that was

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01:51:49,360 --> 01:51:51,720
Speaker 4: an interesting move. That's kind of how I felt about it.

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01:51:52,080 --> 01:51:55,559
Speaker 2: I'll be curious because speaking of you know, coming to

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01:51:55,800 --> 01:51:58,400
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like there's something coming to a

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01:51:58,479 --> 01:52:02,639
Speaker 2: head with Lebron, and maybe there just isn't a spot

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01:52:02,680 --> 01:52:05,400
Speaker 2: for him with his salary all of that, but it

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01:52:05,479 --> 01:52:08,920
Speaker 2: is very clear it's just like they're just over Lebron

2210
01:52:09,080 --> 01:52:11,280
Speaker 2: and you know, and I saw a separate report today,

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01:52:11,280 --> 01:52:13,439
Speaker 2: you know, they want him to retire there blah blah blah.

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01:52:13,520 --> 01:52:14,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, they want him to retire.

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01:52:14,640 --> 01:52:17,200
Speaker 2: There as long as you know it's it's after this

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01:52:17,240 --> 01:52:22,240
Speaker 2: coming season, and so listen. I think he still feels

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01:52:22,240 --> 01:52:24,080
Speaker 2: like he's got something left in the tank. I do

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01:52:24,160 --> 01:52:27,200
Speaker 2: think he has something left in the tank. I just

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01:52:27,720 --> 01:52:31,040
Speaker 2: don't think that the folks in LA want him. And

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01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:35,400
Speaker 2: it appears as though Luca, to quote Captain Phillips, I'm

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01:52:35,400 --> 01:52:38,280
Speaker 2: the captain now. It certainly feels that way with with Luca.

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01:52:39,240 --> 01:52:42,559
Speaker 2: So yeah, really quick speaking to the captain of the ship,

2221
01:52:42,720 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 2: maybe a sinking ship. Bradley Beal headed to the Los

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01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:52,280
Speaker 2: Angeles Clippers thanks to the recommendation of James Harden told

2223
01:52:52,320 --> 01:52:55,680
Speaker 2: you earlier today. I don't think there's a worse recommendation

2224
01:52:55,800 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 2: you could possibly get than from James Harden, who of

2225
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:02,479
Speaker 2: course followed his core quote best friend Kevin Durant to Brooklyn,

2226
01:53:02,800 --> 01:53:05,160
Speaker 2: stabbed him in the back, brought his other best friend

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01:53:05,240 --> 01:53:07,680
Speaker 2: Russell Westbrook to Houston, kicked him out of town a

2228
01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:08,320
Speaker 2: year later.

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01:53:09,439 --> 01:53:09,960
Speaker 3: Another one.

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01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:11,920
Speaker 2: Does this move the needle for you? Bradley Beal to

2231
01:53:12,040 --> 01:53:13,960
Speaker 2: the Los Angeles Clippers earlier this week.

2232
01:53:14,120 --> 01:53:19,519
Speaker 4: I actually think this might actually make them worse because

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01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:24,799
Speaker 4: what Beal does is what Harden does, just not as well,

2234
01:53:25,000 --> 01:53:28,080
Speaker 4: like Beal has been there. There was a time when

2235
01:53:28,880 --> 01:53:31,320
Speaker 4: you know, he's pretty lethal. In Washington, he was well

2236
01:53:31,439 --> 01:53:32,960
Speaker 4: liked and also the kind of stuff. But like you

2237
01:53:33,000 --> 01:53:36,479
Speaker 4: look at this, now you're bringing a dude that is aged,

2238
01:53:36,560 --> 01:53:39,679
Speaker 4: that proved you know, he doesn't play nice with others

2239
01:53:39,800 --> 01:53:42,120
Speaker 4: in a lot of respects. You go to Phoenix, Harden

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Speaker 4: wants the ball, Beal wants the ball. They both want

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01:53:44,479 --> 01:53:45,760
Speaker 4: to take a lot of threes, and neither one of

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01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 4: them wants to play defense. Harden is better at this

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01:53:49,479 --> 01:53:51,639
Speaker 4: point in his career than Beal is, and pretty much

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01:53:51,640 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 4: has been his entire career. So I don't know what

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01:53:54,400 --> 01:53:56,280
Speaker 4: you can gain here. And now now you're seeing that

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01:53:56,320 --> 01:53:58,559
Speaker 4: the Clippers are also going to go after Chris Paul, Like,

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01:53:58,640 --> 01:54:00,679
Speaker 4: what are we trying to do here? Are we trying

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01:54:00,720 --> 01:54:02,919
Speaker 4: to set up the All Star team of twenty nineteen

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01:54:03,840 --> 01:54:07,920
Speaker 4: because it's twenty twenty five. I do not I'm not

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Speaker 4: quite sure I understand what's happening right now with Clippers.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think like basically, I think the Kawhi and

2252
01:54:15,080 --> 01:54:18,280
Speaker 2: James Harden contracts are on the same timeframe, so we'll

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01:54:18,320 --> 01:54:22,240
Speaker 2: see what happens with those two. I don't think that

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01:54:22,560 --> 01:54:24,160
Speaker 2: I don't think he moves to Needle because I think

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01:54:24,160 --> 01:54:27,880
Speaker 2: he's probably gonna be the sixth man on you know, sixth, seventh, eighth,

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01:54:27,960 --> 01:54:31,040
Speaker 2: best team in the NBA or in the Western Conference.

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01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:32,120
Speaker 3: Becuse me really quick.

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01:54:32,280 --> 01:54:33,760
Speaker 2: I'll just say this because I want to get to

2259
01:54:33,880 --> 01:54:36,160
Speaker 2: one non NBA story to wrap the show.

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01:54:36,720 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 3: Dame Lollard going back to Portland. I actually think it's cool.

2261
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:42,200
Speaker 2: I've heard a lot of negativity heard Martin Weiss and

2262
01:54:42,240 --> 01:54:43,400
Speaker 2: Alex Monico before us.

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01:54:43,400 --> 01:54:45,520
Speaker 3: I love both those guys, but they seem to be

2264
01:54:45,600 --> 01:54:47,840
Speaker 3: down on the move. You know. I just look at

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01:54:47,880 --> 01:54:49,480
Speaker 3: it as I don't.

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01:54:49,160 --> 01:54:52,920
Speaker 2: Really get the idea that Dame Lollard ever really wanted

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01:54:52,960 --> 01:54:55,600
Speaker 2: to leave. I think there was some pressure, you know,

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01:54:55,720 --> 01:54:57,640
Speaker 2: kind of the public pressure. Oh, he's got to go

2269
01:54:57,720 --> 01:55:00,440
Speaker 2: chase a ring, and then of course the organization was

2270
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:02,720
Speaker 2: going super young again.

2271
01:55:02,760 --> 01:55:04,080
Speaker 3: I don't think he wanted to leave.

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01:55:04,360 --> 01:55:06,480
Speaker 2: This kind of feels like a you know, an old

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01:55:06,520 --> 01:55:08,640
Speaker 2: married couple that kind of wants to see what's out

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01:55:08,640 --> 01:55:10,960
Speaker 2: there when they get it and then they realize this

2275
01:55:11,040 --> 01:55:13,400
Speaker 2: is this, this should have never ended. Let's just you know,

2276
01:55:13,480 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 2: ride this out together. And so I just, yeah, I

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01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,160
Speaker 2: just I don't know, I think it's cool. I didn't

2278
01:55:20,160 --> 01:55:23,160
Speaker 2: really understand why anyone would sign Dame Lillard this offseason

2279
01:55:23,160 --> 01:55:25,120
Speaker 2: while he's going to be rehabbing it out for the year,

2280
01:55:26,040 --> 01:55:28,600
Speaker 2: but it makes sense to go back to Portland finish

2281
01:55:28,680 --> 01:55:31,560
Speaker 2: what you started. He's probably never gonna win a ring,

2282
01:55:32,080 --> 01:55:34,560
Speaker 2: but he will go down as an organization icon.

2283
01:55:34,800 --> 01:55:35,840
Speaker 3: I actually like this a lot.

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01:55:36,160 --> 01:55:38,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I don't think they're bringing him back to

2285
01:55:38,120 --> 01:55:41,440
Speaker 4: win a championship. They're bringing him back because people like

2286
01:55:41,520 --> 01:55:44,000
Speaker 4: watching him there and he likes being there, and he

2287
01:55:44,040 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 4: is going to go down as the greatest player probably

2288
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 4: in Frances history. He's got almost every record. There's a

2289
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:52,880
Speaker 4: couple other guys that you could probably make an argument for,

2290
01:55:53,480 --> 01:55:57,320
Speaker 4: but just in terms of what he has meant to

2291
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,680
Speaker 4: that city, I just think this kind of a feel

2292
01:56:00,720 --> 01:56:02,880
Speaker 4: good story more than anything else. Like he's gonna go

2293
01:56:03,000 --> 01:56:06,240
Speaker 4: end his career where he should end it, back home,

2294
01:56:06,360 --> 01:56:08,480
Speaker 4: back back and the fans are gonna embrace him and

2295
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:11,920
Speaker 4: they're gonna love him. And again, it's not gonna end

2296
01:56:11,960 --> 01:56:14,600
Speaker 4: with a championship. But at this point, I think it's

2297
01:56:14,640 --> 01:56:18,120
Speaker 4: more just about these are This is a fan base

2298
01:56:18,280 --> 01:56:22,080
Speaker 4: and a athlete that I think are better together than

2299
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:24,080
Speaker 4: a part.

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01:56:24,680 --> 01:56:28,080
Speaker 2: Last topic, a little bit of a non NBA story,

2301
01:56:28,080 --> 01:56:31,160
Speaker 2: but it's still a sports story. Is by the time

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01:56:31,200 --> 01:56:35,160
Speaker 2: that we come back on air next week, we will

2303
01:56:35,200 --> 01:56:42,200
Speaker 2: have the debut of Happy Gilmore two. Friday, the twenty fifth.

2304
01:56:42,280 --> 01:56:43,040
Speaker 2: It comes out.

2305
01:56:43,800 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 3: We can do a full review if you really want to,

2306
01:56:45,720 --> 01:56:46,640
Speaker 3: J Martin next week.

2307
01:56:46,720 --> 01:56:51,840
Speaker 2: But I'll tell you this. You know, I don't know

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01:56:51,880 --> 01:56:53,560
Speaker 2: what to expect. I haven't even I don't even know

2309
01:56:53,600 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 2: if I've seen a trailer. I like it though, I

2310
01:56:57,360 --> 01:56:59,720
Speaker 2: like it. I got no beef, I got no issues

2311
01:57:00,240 --> 01:57:02,560
Speaker 2: make it. I plan on watching it at some point

2312
01:57:02,640 --> 01:57:06,120
Speaker 2: next weekend. Get a little bull of popcorn, Get nostalgic.

2313
01:57:06,280 --> 01:57:08,360
Speaker 2: It premieres next Friday.

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01:57:08,840 --> 01:57:10,600
Speaker 3: I plan on watch it. I'm kind of excited.

2315
01:57:12,000 --> 01:57:14,520
Speaker 4: I mean, I'm gonna watch it, but I'm already preparing

2316
01:57:14,560 --> 01:57:21,680
Speaker 4: to be disappointed. Sure, it's not that it's not that

2317
01:57:21,760 --> 01:57:24,280
Speaker 4: I don't think it could be good. I think that

2318
01:57:24,960 --> 01:57:27,960
Speaker 4: living up to what it was, what the original was,

2319
01:57:28,040 --> 01:57:31,080
Speaker 4: and how it kind of just took the world by

2320
01:57:31,200 --> 01:57:33,640
Speaker 4: storm when it came out, even more so than Billy

2321
01:57:33,720 --> 01:57:38,000
Speaker 4: Madison did. I mean, what's the last thing that Adam

2322
01:57:38,080 --> 01:57:42,680
Speaker 4: Sandler did outside of cut Gems? That has actually done anything.

2323
01:57:42,720 --> 01:57:44,720
Speaker 4: I mean, like the Grown Up series and all that. Like,

2324
01:57:45,240 --> 01:57:46,800
Speaker 4: these guys have gone out and they've done a lot

2325
01:57:46,800 --> 01:57:49,080
Speaker 4: of movies. But I mean, how much of this stuff

2326
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:51,840
Speaker 4: is actually good? Actually? I think Adam Sandler also did

2327
01:57:51,880 --> 01:57:55,240
Speaker 4: the Jordan thing air a couple of years ago and

2328
01:57:55,240 --> 01:57:57,840
Speaker 4: that was actually pretty good. No, but he was part

2329
01:57:57,840 --> 01:58:02,440
Speaker 4: of it at least. I think that's right. But uh, I.

2330
01:58:02,560 --> 01:58:04,160
Speaker 3: Just he's not going to be Hustle.

2331
01:58:04,480 --> 01:58:07,400
Speaker 4: It wasn't bad Hustle. Yeah, it's Netflix.

2332
01:58:07,400 --> 01:58:08,160
Speaker 8: The Basketball and.

2333
01:58:10,400 --> 01:58:12,480
Speaker 11: Edwards right, Yeah he was the coach and yeah, Anthony

2334
01:58:12,560 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 11: Edwards played kind of the bad guy.

2335
01:58:15,040 --> 01:58:17,320
Speaker 4: I think maybe I did see that. Okay, so maybe

2336
01:58:17,360 --> 01:58:19,640
Speaker 4: I'm wrong about that a little bit. But I just

2337
01:58:20,560 --> 01:58:22,960
Speaker 4: if I had to bet money, I think this film

2338
01:58:23,000 --> 01:58:26,200
Speaker 4: will be mid I think this will be mediocre at best.

2339
01:58:26,400 --> 01:58:29,120
Speaker 4: I just I'm not saying that its moment has passed.

2340
01:58:29,120 --> 01:58:31,560
Speaker 4: I'm just saying you can't recapture what you did in

2341
01:58:31,600 --> 01:58:34,920
Speaker 4: the first one. Like, there's just so much legendary stuff there.

2342
01:58:35,480 --> 01:58:37,640
Speaker 4: I think time has changed in a way and you've

2343
01:58:37,680 --> 01:58:42,800
Speaker 4: got like stars in it that I just I feel

2344
01:58:42,840 --> 01:58:44,760
Speaker 4: like it's I'm not saying it's a cash grab. I

2345
01:58:44,760 --> 01:58:46,720
Speaker 4: think they're gonna put everything into it. I'm glad that

2346
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Speaker 4: you've got Julie Bowen and you know, you've got some

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Speaker 4: of these people in it. But at the same time,

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Speaker 4: I just I can't imagine this being more than about

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Speaker 4: like a six and a half out of ten at best.

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Speaker 4: I'm hoping to be wrong. I'm not trying to be

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Speaker 4: cynical about it. I'm just I have my doubts that

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Speaker 4: this is going to turn out to be what people

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Speaker 4: hope it's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, my only real thought is that if Adam Sandler

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Speaker 2: waited this long to redo it, it's obviously not for

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Speaker 2: the money.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, I think he believes.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't know enough about Hollywood to know

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Speaker 2: how this all works, but I'm guessing he believes in

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Speaker 2: the script and we'll see what happens. But we could

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Speaker 2: talk about that potentially next week, but we got to

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Speaker 2: get out of here. Want to thank the crew, Mary

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Speaker 2: mack on the boards, producer Ian Steve de Sega, for

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Speaker 2: my partner Jason Martin. I'm Aratrus. If you missed any

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Speaker 2: today's show, make sure to download the podcast. We covered

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Speaker 2: a lot of ground WNBA players going crazy pay us

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Speaker 2: what you owe us, What are you guys doing. We

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Speaker 2: talked all sorts of NFL, NBA, and of course Happy Gilmore.

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Speaker 2: So make sure to download the podcast. For Jason Martin,

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Speaker 2: I'm aratorus. This is Fox Sports.

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Speaker 4: Are you