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Speaker 1: Welcome into Ravens Press Pass. The NFL world has gathered

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Speaker 1: in Indianapolis for the twenty twenty three NFL Scouting Combine.

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Speaker 1: But before on field drill start, there's the media sessions.

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Speaker 1: Both John Harbaugh and Eric da Costa have now taken

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Speaker 1: the stage and answered questions from the media. Before we

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Speaker 1: jump into General manager Eric da Costa's press conference, make

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Speaker 1: sure you check out the Ravens Lounge feed soon as

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Speaker 1: Garrett Downing and Ryan Mink will be sharing their takeaways

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Speaker 1: from these press conferences and giving their thoughts on what

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Speaker 1: else they've seen at the combine. You can also find

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Speaker 1: head coach John Harbaugh's press conference from the combine in

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Speaker 1: the Ravens Press Pass feed. So now here's Eric da

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Speaker 1: Costa at the twenty twenty three NFL Combine. Right, everybody, welcome.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite books. I'll quote Let the Wild

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Speaker 1: Rumpus begin. Guy in questions, you guys go ahead and ask. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know. Lamar and I are talking. We met recently.

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Speaker 1: It's an ongoing discussion. We both understand the urgency of

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Speaker 1: the situation. Has been a good dialogue, a good discussion.

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Speaker 1: I'm optimistic as I continue to be optimistic and we'll

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Speaker 1: see where it goes. Yeah. Well, I mean you have

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Speaker 1: a lot of regard for the player first and foremost.

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Speaker 1: I think when you deal with an agent, sometimes you're

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Speaker 1: able to speak, you know, very freely, you know, position

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Speaker 1: can use that maybe you wouldn't say to a player

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Speaker 1: or you know. So I think that's part of it.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of respect, tremendous respect. Because I'm with

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Speaker 1: a player like Lamar, a player like Roquan Smith who

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Speaker 1: also represents himself every day. You see the commitment, you

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Speaker 1: understand where they're coming from. So it's definitely a different dynamic.

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Speaker 1: It can be challenging, but it's doable, as we've proven,

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Speaker 1: and we continue to be optimistic about it. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: that's a question that I appreciate, and what I've kind

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Speaker 1: going to talk specifically about any discussions about the contract.

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Speaker 1: And Lamar and I had that agreement. Actually we forged

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Speaker 1: not going to go into all those things. So Rashad

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Speaker 1: Bowl is invaluable to us. It's always been that way,

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Speaker 1: Phil Savage with his Alabama roots, we have a strong

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Speaker 1: appreciation for you know, the SEC being down there. Well,

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Speaker 1: You know, Jim does an amazing job. Phil Savage before him.

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Speaker 1: So it's obviously good to hear that DaCosta and Lamar

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Speaker 1: but he made it clear we want Lamar here. Thanks

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