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Speaker 1: The following. He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com

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Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is Mick Shot

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Speaker 1: screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves,

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Speaker 1: and Micky Spagnola, and it is another edition of Mick

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Speaker 1: Shots on this Tuesday. I guess it's late in morning.

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Speaker 1: I am Mickey Spagnola and joining me Everson Walls and

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Speaker 1: Bill Jones should be along in a moment. He had

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Speaker 1: something going on, said he'd be cutting it real close.

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Speaker 1: So we hope to have Bill as we go through

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Speaker 1: this next hour here on Dallas Cowboys dot Com. And

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Speaker 1: I'm in the SWBC Mors Studio and Everson Walls was

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Speaker 1: in the Walls studio at home. How are you doing today?

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Speaker 1: The renovated, the renovated studio. We got our popcorn is gone,

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Speaker 1: am onto the next phase. And if it wasn't for

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Speaker 1: having such crappy games on Saturday, I probably still would

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Speaker 1: have been sitting here with popcorn hovering over me. But man,

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Speaker 1: it was so boring, you know. And plus, let's just

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Speaker 1: be real man. I mean, I know we had a

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Speaker 1: team that was very average. I know that we didn't

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Speaker 1: do well when it came to you know, adversarial problems

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Speaker 1: and things of that nature. But you know, when your

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Speaker 1: stay extremely focused, especially in a Blowoutum well, I mean

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Speaker 1: it was somewhat low. I mean, I guess you weren't

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Speaker 1: engaged with Packers Rams. Is that what you're telling me? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's what I'm telling you. Once Aaron Donald went out,

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Speaker 1: but you know, it was typical of what you expected

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Speaker 1: from the Packers. Aaron Rodgers is flawless. It's almost Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers reminds me of Lebron James in regards to the

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Speaker 1: fact that he's playing a game within a game. You know,

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Speaker 1: there are times you think you have him under control,

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Speaker 1: you don't. He's just testing you. And that's what was

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Speaker 1: happening in the game. He was just picking and prodding

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Speaker 1: And that's the way it usually is with Aaron Rodgers. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and you know, and and the amazing thing about the

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Speaker 1: I mean, I understand you know the wide receiver thing, right,

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Speaker 1: Uh you know that that uh you know, he's he's

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Speaker 1: But after that the wide receivers he's throwing too. Are

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Speaker 1: you serious? And they and they still you know, put

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Speaker 1: you know, with with a guy night by the name

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Speaker 1: has all the two last name Valdez Scandaling right, are

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Speaker 1: we're running the football and they ran for what one

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Speaker 1: hundred and eighty eight yards? That's clear. Now. Aaron Donald

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Speaker 1: you know, I like it how people you know, guys

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Speaker 1: the Everson Walls of this group. I left the office

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Speaker 1: Everson say he got bored watching the games on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: I didn't watch a Saturday night game, mickey, because I

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Speaker 1: But I asked, I am familiar with what happened, though.

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Speaker 1: Mickey would pull protests. Mickey would protest a loss problem her.

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Speaker 1: You should have, you should have. You should have seen

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Speaker 1: but eventually gone back in time. You know what I did,

427
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Speaker 1: I did read part of part of his problem was

428
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: that he got the win knocked out of him also, uh,

429
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 1: and that may be why when he got up he

430
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: looked like he was in another world, right. Uh. And

431
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:23,240
Speaker 1: then what I saw I'm running into the locker room,

432
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:24,880
Speaker 1: I said, Oh, he's trying to put on a brave

433
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: thing for the independent uh doctor that's going to check

434
00:26:28,359 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: him for a concussion, right, you know. And and here's

435
00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:33,720
Speaker 1: the other thing everybody was was was making a big

436
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:37,280
Speaker 1: deal that it on on Monday that he was still

437
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol. Well, of course he's in concussion protocol,

438
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: because until you do two days in a row of

439
00:26:45,200 --> 00:26:50,959
Speaker 1: strenuous work, you stay in concussion protocol. And so, uh,

440
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,600
Speaker 1: you know, not until they have not until he goes

441
00:26:54,680 --> 00:26:58,320
Speaker 1: out and works out and then the next day gets

442
00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:02,840
Speaker 1: up and works out again without any any problems, he's

443
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:06,199
Speaker 1: going to stay in concussion protocol, you know. And uh,

444
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:12,280
Speaker 1: it was funny listening to Troy Aikman today on during

445
00:27:12,400 --> 00:27:16,080
Speaker 1: his segment on The Ticket talking about the nineteen ninety

446
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,960
Speaker 1: three NFC Tile Game when he got knocked out and

447
00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:24,880
Speaker 1: there was no week between that game winning beating San

448
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: Francisco and then going to the Super Bowl in Atlanta.

449
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:32,320
Speaker 1: And he said that the concussion that he suffered in

450
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 1: that NFC title game was the worst one of all

451
00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:38,640
Speaker 1: the concussions he suffered in the NFL. And he said,

452
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:41,440
Speaker 1: if it was today, he said, there was no way

453
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Speaker 1: they would have let me play in the Super Bowl,

454
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,719
Speaker 1: he said, they were absolutely Wow. I would have been

455
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,879
Speaker 1: in concussion protocol and I wouldn't have made it to

456
00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 1: the game. So things have changed. I have changed for

457
00:27:54,480 --> 00:27:57,760
Speaker 1: the better, let's face it, right, Yeah, no doubt, because

458
00:27:57,760 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I remember that if you remember when when when when

459
00:28:01,480 --> 00:28:05,560
Speaker 1: when they they the Cowboys showed up that Um, I

460
00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: guess it was Monday in Atlanta and they did the

461
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,200
Speaker 1: night interviews that night. And I don't know if Troy

462
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:14,640
Speaker 1: still knew where he was, you know. I think one

463
00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,320
Speaker 1: of the times when they asked him after the game

464
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: or where he was, and he I'm in the Henrietta, Oklahoma.

465
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 1: You know. So when they say you got you got

466
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: knocked into yesterday, he got knocked into yesterday. Yeah, you

467
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:34,840
Speaker 1: talk about that, I would call it wasn't a concussion.

468
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: But then the nineteen ninety one championship game against the

469
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,480
Speaker 1: forty nine ers, when I was with the Giants and

470
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: uh Lt on the passing play makes Joe Montana pull

471
00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: the ball down and then here comes Lena Marshall for

472
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 1: the clean up. And I told people we didn't Joe

473
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 1: woke up up in Kansas City. That's the next time

474
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 1: you saw him playing football. So those hits. Yeah, they

475
00:29:04,920 --> 00:29:07,520
Speaker 1: can knock you into another region. They can knock you

476
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:12,360
Speaker 1: into another stratosphere, another time zone. And that's why it's

477
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:17,720
Speaker 1: important for quarterbacks. The slide rule is good. And sometimes

478
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:20,480
Speaker 1: my homes can be you know, very mucho about that.

479
00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:23,160
Speaker 1: You know, he's Texas kid, you know, he doesn't want

480
00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 1: to be thought of as just that guy that slides

481
00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:29,040
Speaker 1: all the time. But it's smart to slide because not

482
00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: only did his head hit the ground just the way

483
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: he was being manipulated, it looked as if he would

484
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 1: have had he also would have had some neck problems

485
00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 1: because once those linemen catch up with you, they're trying

486
00:29:41,360 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 1: to hurt you and a quarterback as well. They want

487
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:47,560
Speaker 1: to their goal. Let's be real. Their goal is not

488
00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 1: just to tackle a quarterback. The goal is to knock

489
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: a quarterback out of the game if you get the chance.

490
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:57,640
Speaker 1: And that's going old school and that's new school. It

491
00:29:57,760 --> 00:29:59,840
Speaker 1: doesn't matter. That does not change, you know, And that's

492
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,200
Speaker 1: I was dicey on the on the third down scrambled

493
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:07,280
Speaker 1: by Chad Henny because he was gonna get there. You know. However,

494
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:10,960
Speaker 1: he reminded me of Dak Prescott, right, He wasn't sliding.

495
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 1: He was gonna go ahead first, right, what if he

496
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:17,920
Speaker 1: got hit? You know, yeah, they're probably punning because I

497
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: don't know who the next quarterback was that would have

498
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,440
Speaker 1: would have been able to come in, and then the

499
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,120
Speaker 1: punter probably was the next quarterback. Yeah, you're you're probably right,

500
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: you know, And and if you think about it, the

501
00:30:30,200 --> 00:30:33,320
Speaker 1: same thing nearly happened. And then the other key play

502
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 1: in that game, uh was Higgins dive diving through the

503
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 1: pylon and then fumbling the ball through the end zone

504
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: for the touchback. That was the killer, you know, And

505
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 1: I think I saw the interview with Stefanski and he

506
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,160
Speaker 1: basically said, our rule of thumb is if you're gonna

507
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: be first in goal at the one, you don't reach out,

508
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: Let's let's give us four chances to get in. And

509
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: you know, and he got hit ahead like a minute

510
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,880
Speaker 1: it was. It was over a minute plus to go,

511
00:31:02,320 --> 00:31:06,360
Speaker 1: so it wasn't like there was a time serious situation then.

512
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,480
Speaker 1: But you know what he got, He got helmet to

513
00:31:09,560 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 1: helmet and you know, he that couldn't very well. They

514
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:16,560
Speaker 1: missed him. They missed that, They missed that. If I'm

515
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 1: a Cowboy fan and that happens to us. I'm going

516
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 1: off right now, that's the first thing that we talk about,

517
00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: and we'll probably talk about it through the break. If

518
00:31:24,800 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 1: if I'm a Cowboy fan and that happens to us,

519
00:31:27,320 --> 00:31:29,840
Speaker 1: that call needs to be made. And if you're talking

520
00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 1: about the reason for the helmet to helmet rule is

521
00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 1: for the safety of the players, just like with the quarterback.

522
00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:43,600
Speaker 1: So now you can't can you review that? And if

523
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,040
Speaker 1: you can review it, why wasn't it reviewed. That's something

524
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,680
Speaker 1: that should have been really taken care of instead of

525
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:53,520
Speaker 1: it seems like they were trying to as referees, they

526
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:56,080
Speaker 1: were trying to rush the game along. This is a

527
00:31:56,440 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: playoff games. That's the time when you have to get

528
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: everything right. That's the purpose of them having the best

529
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 1: referee crews in playoff games. So they got it right

530
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,240
Speaker 1: all year long. You need to get it right now.

531
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,800
Speaker 1: This is crucial. And I thought, I don't know if

532
00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,160
Speaker 1: you can review that, you tell miss bags. But if

533
00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,320
Speaker 1: you can review it, it should have been reviewed. I

534
00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 1: don't know if they can review a missed penalty now.

535
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,840
Speaker 1: In college, they would have reviewed it right because they

536
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: from upstad. You know, in college under two mass it

537
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,920
Speaker 1: should be reviewed as targeting. It's under two minutes, doesn't

538
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 1: let's take precedence. I don't know if they can review

539
00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 1: targeting if it's not called, if it's not called on

540
00:32:40,720 --> 00:32:44,160
Speaker 1: the field. Yeah, and even in college, I think it's

541
00:32:44,200 --> 00:32:46,640
Speaker 1: got to be called on the field, although maybe not.

542
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:53,080
Speaker 1: I thought I thought go to New York. I thought

543
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: you could go to New York. It is something that's

544
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: not decided on the field, but it would be decided

545
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,080
Speaker 1: by the guys in New York. That's what I thought.

546
00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,200
Speaker 1: See and the and the problem was there was only

547
00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:06,440
Speaker 1: one official there that could see it right, and his

548
00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 1: his view was where's the ball in the pylon? He

549
00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: probably wasn't looking at the there's so much for him

550
00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 1: to look at there. Yeah, in bounds is bounds. And

551
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,480
Speaker 1: but why it should have been shifted to New York.

552
00:33:20,720 --> 00:33:23,760
Speaker 1: That's why that's why they need to have you're right,

553
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: ever since that's why that needs to come from above.

554
00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: That's why they gain a sky judge. That is exactly why.

555
00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:35,680
Speaker 1: Right there, the guy buzzes down and say, hey, you

556
00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 1: need to look at this. Just like past interference. The

557
00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,280
Speaker 1: guy up there can see it. He can see it

558
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 1: better than the guy that's on the field, looking at

559
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 1: three different things at once, and and and they just

560
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: refused to do what they should do. They got cameras

561
00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: all over the freaking place. They got, they got beautiful

562
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,960
Speaker 1: angles everywhere college football, pro football. I don't know why

563
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:02,640
Speaker 1: I's not done it. Yeah, where was the pylone cam

564
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: on that play? All right? Um? What about the Sunday

565
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,080
Speaker 1: night game Brady and Breeze? What do you think of

566
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:22,120
Speaker 1: that one? I somewhat felt sorry for Breeze. You know what?

567
00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: That game reminded me of Michael Thomas. Tried to play, right,

568
00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,120
Speaker 1: he wasn't right. He's now he's gonna have surgery, all right,

569
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: that's how bad his injury was. He tried to go

570
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,359
Speaker 1: out there and play. It reminded me of the two

571
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: thousand and seven playoff game with the Cowboys and the

572
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,200
Speaker 1: Giants when Taryll Owens tried to play, but he wasn't

573
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 1: Taryll Owens in that game, and the cow and Tony

574
00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 1: Romo didn't really have a lead receiver to throw the

575
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 1: ball too. And that was an instance where I just thought,

576
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: on a couple of those interceptions for Drew Brees, his guys,

577
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,279
Speaker 1: he was thrown too, so him out. They didn't run

578
00:35:01,360 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 1: the route right the one to Kimeara. I don't know

579
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:06,880
Speaker 1: what what he was thinking. I don't know what happened

580
00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:10,800
Speaker 1: on that one Spa. I mean he hadn oh, he

581
00:35:10,880 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 1: never turned and I'm not sure what time at what

582
00:35:14,200 --> 00:35:17,439
Speaker 1: point he was gonna turn, because he ran right into

583
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: the coverage when he tried to throw him open. Uh so, yeah,

584
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,520
Speaker 1: unless he was going to hook up before that defender

585
00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: that got the interception, Unless he was gonna hook up

586
00:35:29,800 --> 00:35:35,879
Speaker 1: before that defender came across, that still could have been intercepted. Spags. Well,

587
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:39,560
Speaker 1: if he was hook up her opportunity, it wouldn't have

588
00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: been you know. And then the other one bounces off

589
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 1: the guy's hands and it gets intercepted. Yeah, you know.

590
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: And I know the quarterback gets charged for all the interceptions,

591
00:35:49,239 --> 00:35:54,000
Speaker 1: but look, neither quarterback. I mean, you know, they talked about,

592
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:57,640
Speaker 1: you know, how well Tom Brady played. Would he have

593
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,840
Speaker 1: to drive like a yard, thirty yards, twenty yards for

594
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,440
Speaker 1: a touchdown. It wasn't like he was zipping up and

595
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 1: down the field. The defense won that game for Tampa Bay,

596
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: and that was the impressive part of that game. We

597
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 1: talked about the Saints number one defense I had a

598
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: feeling that Brady was not going to have that great game,

599
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:21,640
Speaker 1: and it's like you said, Spags, it wasn't that great

600
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 1: a game. He was just solid. He actually just managed

601
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,279
Speaker 1: that game with the great talent that he has on

602
00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: the field. But at the same time, you look at

603
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:35,680
Speaker 1: the Tampa Bay defense was really what won that game

604
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:39,839
Speaker 1: for them. And I have always been one of those

605
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,440
Speaker 1: I guess because I'm a defender. I look at I

606
00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,960
Speaker 1: can see Drew Brees and his talent dwindling a bit,

607
00:36:46,400 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: and I could see him being a bit predictable down

608
00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: the scenes. Is the strength of their offense always has been.

609
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 1: If I was a defender, that's exactly how I play him.

610
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:01,800
Speaker 1: It seems like more defensive coordinators or understanding that, and

611
00:37:01,960 --> 00:37:04,320
Speaker 1: they're really putting a lot of pressure on Drew Brees

612
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,160
Speaker 1: up the middle. Everything is up the middle, where it's

613
00:37:07,160 --> 00:37:10,760
Speaker 1: a blitz or whether it's where you concentrate your past defense,

614
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:15,920
Speaker 1: it's always gonna be between the numbers. That's Breeze's strength,

615
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:19,880
Speaker 1: and they finally started to figure that out. Plus his

616
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,920
Speaker 1: arm is just not quite there like it used to be,

617
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: so yeah, those interceptions have been coming more often than

618
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:30,919
Speaker 1: they were in the past and his effectiveness is going

619
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 1: down bit by bit. Is this his last game? That's

620
00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,920
Speaker 1: the good question. Is he gonna come in and try

621
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:40,439
Speaker 1: it again with a great defense that he has where

622
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 1: you think Spats, well, you know what, I trust Jay

623
00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:48,600
Speaker 1: Glazer and Jay glazers pretty close to Sean Payton. And

624
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:54,000
Speaker 1: when he announced it right before, are the last segment

625
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: of the pregame show that this was the last home

626
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: game for Drew Brees. Guardless if they won, they were

627
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:03,239
Speaker 1: going on the road. The Super Bowl would be on

628
00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:06,320
Speaker 1: the road. Then I would think this is probably it

629
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:13,200
Speaker 1: for him. He's pretty tight with Sean and the scene

630
00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 1: after the game would indicate it as well. The Cup

631
00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:19,640
Speaker 1: and supposedly for a couple of hours, the Breeze and

632
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:21,960
Speaker 1: his family were out on the field and you probably

633
00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 1: saw the video of Brady out there with him throwing

634
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: a pass to Breeze his kid on the yeah too.

635
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 1: It was just a couple of forty year olds, forty

636
00:38:32,160 --> 00:38:34,920
Speaker 1: something year olds just playing catch with the kids out

637
00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:38,840
Speaker 1: in the park. Let me let me give some context.

638
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: So that by the way, because if if you and

639
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Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, ever since played at the Superdome,

640
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna assume the visitors. Yeah, the visitors. The visitor's

641
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,960
Speaker 1: locker room is on the opposite end of the field

642
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Speaker 1: from where the buses take you away. So, and the

643
00:39:01,280 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: worst part is, if you lose, you gotta walk one

644
00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 1: hundred yards all the way across the field to get

645
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:11,759
Speaker 1: to where the buses are. So Tom Brady didn't go

646
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:15,279
Speaker 1: out there and make a special effort to talk to him.

647
00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:18,359
Speaker 1: He had to walk all the way across. And I'll

648
00:39:18,400 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: give you a good example. The last time, um, the

649
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 1: Cowboys played that was it last year or two years ago?

650
00:39:23,560 --> 00:39:25,760
Speaker 1: It was last year? Right? They played at in New Orleans?

651
00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:29,200
Speaker 1: Uh and got beat Um. No, I don't think so that.

652
00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 1: Maybe it was two years ago, not not this season,

653
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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen or twenty and anyway, Okay, so I'm making

654
00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: I'm making the walk, the one hundred yard walk. Right,

655
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:41,359
Speaker 1: and Sean uh is on the bench. His kids are

656
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: out there playing. His kids, they're grown now, but they're

657
00:39:44,760 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: still out there throwing the ball around, right and Uh

658
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 1: and he saw me and we we talked for a

659
00:39:50,600 --> 00:39:54,200
Speaker 1: while before I got to the bus. So that's kind

660
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Speaker 1: of a natural thing that the players normally go out

661
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Speaker 1: there with their kids afterwards, U, you gotta meet up.

662
00:40:01,120 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 1: They didn't make us special. You gotta make that walk.

663
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Speaker 1: But he did stop and that was a neat thing,

664
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Speaker 1: and he told us, he told Breeze and Sound, I'll

665
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Speaker 1: be nice to your sister. Because I guess they were

666
00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:14,760
Speaker 1: wrestling on the field or something. It was pretty cute,

667
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: like one arm one of them's gonna be a gymnast.

668
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: I saw some one one arm somersaults going on out there,

669
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Speaker 1: so that was pretty good. One of the kids gonna

670
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Speaker 1: be I think it's one of Breezes. I think it's

671
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Speaker 1: Breezes his daughter. She's gonna be a nice gymnast or

672
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Speaker 1: chiliad or something because she was out there making some moves. Man.

673
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 1: Ever since, how amazing is it that these guys are

674
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Speaker 1: still doing it over the age of forty. I think

675
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: it's it's very amazing. I'm you know, I'm a little envious.

676
00:40:47,840 --> 00:40:51,040
Speaker 1: As a defensive back, we don't really get to ride

677
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:54,960
Speaker 1: off into the sunset like that. Never do. The quarterbacks

678
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,600
Speaker 1: are the ones that always get to have these press

679
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Speaker 1: conferences and things of that nature. But play until you're

680
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Speaker 1: forty plus years old. I don't give a dog on

681
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Speaker 1: what kind of advantages you might have or whatever. That

682
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 1: is an amazing accomplishment. And to have your team in

683
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Speaker 1: the position that it's in now is pretty cool. I

684
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:20,279
Speaker 1: recall I was only thirty one years old one time

685
00:41:20,920 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 1: and I made a play in the end zone. It

686
00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 1: was Sunday night football. I made a play in the

687
00:41:26,080 --> 00:41:29,320
Speaker 1: end zone against Philadelphia and the commentator said, yeah, he

688
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:33,040
Speaker 1: made that play with I think he said the light

689
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Speaker 1: shined off my gray hair or some crap like that,

690
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:43,200
Speaker 1: and I'm like, you know, commentators words hurt. Okay, I

691
00:41:43,280 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 1: mean so now if I'm watching that game, I'm like, oh, yeah,

692
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Speaker 1: everything waters old. Did you what the commentator just said?

693
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:52,160
Speaker 1: So now the narrative is already out there. I can't

694
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Speaker 1: rewrite it, you know what I'm saying. But I think

695
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Speaker 1: it's I think every position really should get a chance

696
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 1: to be glorified in that manner. You see them sometimes

697
00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:07,160
Speaker 1: they just can't wait to just kick guys out the door,

698
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,800
Speaker 1: and especially guys that have done so much for this NFL.

699
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Speaker 1: And I'm going back to the eighties and nineties where

700
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Speaker 1: there was no love loss for anybody in spags knows

701
00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:20,720
Speaker 1: about those days. Now, this is a nice, politically correct

702
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:25,080
Speaker 1: league to where guys are good, a little bit more love,

703
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:29,279
Speaker 1: a little bit more consideration based on what they've contributed

704
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Speaker 1: to the NFL. So it's good to see that those

705
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,800
Speaker 1: guys are getting that. I'd like to see all types

706
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Speaker 1: of players get that kind of love and respect into

707
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:40,239
Speaker 1: the older ages. That's why I ask you, they got

708
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Speaker 1: to be a deep snapper. Yeah, all right? So ever, yeah,

709
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710
00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: they retire. Yeah right, every singing of all the cornerbacks

711
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:59,120
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712
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Speaker 1: late thirties, whatever the age might be, who is the

713
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Speaker 1: most amazing to you that they kept their skill level

714
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Speaker 1: up into their late thirties or whatever age you want

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Speaker 1: to put on it. I can't think of any defensive

716
00:43:14,440 --> 00:43:18,520
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717
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718
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719
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720
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Speaker 1: and cover the slot on third downs, that was big

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727
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Speaker 1: cover a slot receiver, which is the toughest position to

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729
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Speaker 1: his career while doing that. And I know how difficult

731
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737
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Speaker 1: believe there was Monday Night football, and it was amazing

738
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Speaker 1: to see he's maybe Spagnola size. They're they're about the

739
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740
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741
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742
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744
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00:45:10,600 --> 00:45:13,440
Speaker 1: What's impressive to me is the way that he handled

746
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747
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Speaker 1: a cornerback who played twenty years in the NFL, retiring

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Speaker 1: It was when I started playing football my senior year

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Speaker 1: high school. You didn't play football until your senior year

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Speaker 1: in high school. Well, I and I played basketball. Of

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Speaker 1: course I played basketball. Uh, never liked baseball that much.

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Speaker 1: Let me tell you. Let me tell you because he

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Speaker 1: That's it. Well I was. I was a little bigger,

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849
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,640
Speaker 1: ran on my toes, I tried to that practice and

850
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:30,280
Speaker 1: it was like magic. I could follow the ball without

851
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:36,200
Speaker 1: it dancing in the air. And so people when Bradsham

852
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:39,240
Speaker 1: said Bradsham was the only one that noticed it. He said,

853
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:42,480
Speaker 1: every sud I knew when you were gonna get an

854
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:49,160
Speaker 1: interception because your gate changed. That's because once you turn

855
00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 1: and look for the ball, I have to be on

856
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:56,560
Speaker 1: my toes. I can't run like you know, the frantic

857
00:51:56,800 --> 00:52:00,120
Speaker 1: urgency type of running. You have to gather yourself. I've

858
00:52:00,120 --> 00:52:02,440
Speaker 1: been run on your toes so that you can follow

859
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:05,640
Speaker 1: the flight of the ball. That's what made me what

860
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:08,160
Speaker 1: I am today. And it's no lie. That's why my

861
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 1: dad's my my my best coach I've ever had, Tom Ladie,

862
00:52:12,400 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: Eddie Robinson, Belichet, it doesn't matter. My father was my

863
00:52:15,840 --> 00:52:19,480
Speaker 1: best coach simply because of that, out of necessity. Otherwise,

864
00:52:19,520 --> 00:52:22,040
Speaker 1: I'd been getting hidden in the head in center field

865
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 1: a whole game, playing that baseball game, and I just

866
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 1: figured you would be a great center field because you're

867
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,680
Speaker 1: able to track the ball so well in as a

868
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,440
Speaker 1: cornerback in the NFL too. But you're right, I mean,

869
00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:39,879
Speaker 1: baseball was first. Baseball made me the football player I am.

870
00:52:40,360 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: There you go, and you think about it with baseball

871
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:46,080
Speaker 1: players at the pitch, all right, you don't have to

872
00:52:46,120 --> 00:52:48,520
Speaker 1: be on your toes until the pitcher gets into the

873
00:52:48,600 --> 00:52:51,240
Speaker 1: wind up and throwing the home plate. But the great player,

874
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 1: you're on your toes at right at the pitch, got too.

875
00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: All right, Let's talk Hall of Fame and apparently the

876
00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:03,560
Speaker 1: virtue truly. The Hall of Fame Selection Committee is meeting today.

877
00:53:04,239 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: They've already discussed Drew Pearson this morning. I'm assuming they're

878
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,080
Speaker 1: all going to keep it a secret until the Saturday

879
00:53:12,239 --> 00:53:14,719
Speaker 1: before the Super Bowl. Mickey, what's the deal on that.

880
00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,799
Speaker 1: When's the announcement gonna come? Yeah, it doesn't come till then.

881
00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:21,399
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they're going through so the drill will

882
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:24,560
Speaker 1: find out until then, Well, they're they're they're eliminated. I mean,

883
00:53:24,640 --> 00:53:28,120
Speaker 1: they're they're whittling it down to what the last fifteen?

884
00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:31,839
Speaker 1: Is that what it is? Yeah? Yes? But but while

885
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:36,399
Speaker 1: are they discussing the senior then well there's only it's

886
00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:41,760
Speaker 1: only he's the only senior. They gotta he's the only senior.

887
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,520
Speaker 1: What I'm saying is if they're gonna meet again on

888
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: that Saturday before the super Bowl just discuss him, then yeah,

889
00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:51,640
Speaker 1: I guess he's still just whittled down because normally they

890
00:53:51,719 --> 00:53:54,480
Speaker 1: do it when there's more than more than two guys

891
00:53:54,560 --> 00:53:58,760
Speaker 1: to see. But usually those guys are automatically talked about

892
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 1: on Saturday list of what happens today, Right, So I

893
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:04,879
Speaker 1: don't I'm not sure why why that that would take place.

894
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:07,480
Speaker 1: Plus they're gonna rubb or stamp this one that this

895
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:12,480
Speaker 1: ain't gonna happen, right, you know he's exactly so, uh,

896
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: he's in for sure. And then and then when they

897
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:22,200
Speaker 1: have the ceremony finally next what next year or I'm

898
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:25,160
Speaker 1: losing track to my time. Yeah, when they do well,

899
00:54:25,480 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 1: because Cliff Cliffs still, they got so many they gotta

900
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 1: click in the Jimmy's both both have to go in, right,

901
00:54:32,160 --> 00:54:34,200
Speaker 1: so it'll be all good, right, Right, It's gonna be

902
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,480
Speaker 1: such a huge ceremony this year with the last year's

903
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:40,960
Speaker 1: class and this year's class going in. Yeah, so you

904
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:43,920
Speaker 1: get you're gonna have three cowboys with Jimmy Johnson, Cliff

905
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:48,359
Speaker 1: Harris and Drew Pearson going in coaching. You got two

906
00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:52,440
Speaker 1: free agents going in. That's how about that? That's extremely

907
00:54:52,520 --> 00:54:55,520
Speaker 1: and should have another one and swift. You know, you

908
00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 1: think about where Cliffs came came from and what he's

909
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 1: been through, really, both he and Drew. You know, as

910
00:55:01,520 --> 00:55:03,560
Speaker 1: we get older, we go through our tragedies and things

911
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:08,000
Speaker 1: of that nature, and they've been through so much. Cliff's

912
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: father was blind. I don't know if he's still alive.

913
00:55:13,040 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: He's still alive, but he's blind from diabetes. Yeah, that's

914
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:20,959
Speaker 1: his cause. That's Cliff's cause. We're playing his diabetes golf

915
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,680
Speaker 1: tournament all the time, and that's his cause. That's why

916
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 1: he and I pretty tight in regards to that because

917
00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:30,600
Speaker 1: of the whole thing what I did with Springs, and

918
00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: it kind of brought Cliff and I a little bit

919
00:55:33,000 --> 00:55:35,880
Speaker 1: closer together and made me a little bit more empathetic

920
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:37,840
Speaker 1: towards what he and his father been going through. His

921
00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:40,879
Speaker 1: father never could see him play, His father could never

922
00:55:41,719 --> 00:55:44,960
Speaker 1: visually physically see him play. And for a Cliff to

923
00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:48,680
Speaker 1: be able to make this honor, you know, and his

924
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:52,000
Speaker 1: father still be around, that's pretty pretty cool, very amazing.

925
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 1: And be a free agent coming out of where watch

926
00:55:55,520 --> 00:56:01,120
Speaker 1: it Tall Baptist University, Give me a break, arcul Delphia, Arkansas.

927
00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:04,960
Speaker 1: All of that sounds like made up words. All I'm

928
00:56:05,000 --> 00:56:10,120
Speaker 1: selling Cowboys searching for a defensive line coach? If if

929
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,959
Speaker 1: not more than that, Mickey Wright, Yes, and who knows

930
00:56:15,040 --> 00:56:17,560
Speaker 1: that that might just be the start of redoing that

931
00:56:18,040 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. Reports out there say they've interviewed Aiden

932
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:26,840
Speaker 1: Derd Is that how you say? D U R d E?

933
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 1: And Giff Smith for the defensive line coach. Dird served

934
00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:38,040
Speaker 1: He worked with Dan Quinn on the staff in Atlanta,

935
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:42,799
Speaker 1: started off as a defensive quality controlled coach and then

936
00:56:43,000 --> 00:56:45,359
Speaker 1: was an outside linebacker coach. So I don't know how

937
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:50,239
Speaker 1: much actual NFL experience he has other than those couple

938
00:56:50,280 --> 00:56:54,200
Speaker 1: of years. And then Smith had spent five seasons with

939
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,120
Speaker 1: the Chargers as their defensive line coach. Prior to that,

940
00:56:59,040 --> 00:57:01,759
Speaker 1: he was a defensive line coach with the Titans for

941
00:57:01,880 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 1: two years, the Bills for three years, and then Georgia

942
00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: Tech he started off their six years as a defensive coach. So, uh,

943
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: looks like they're looking to bring in someone there by

944
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:20,400
Speaker 1: the way along those lines, Mackey Mackey just per second. Uh.

945
00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 1: You know, Quinn could decide to coach like Marinelli did,

946
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,640
Speaker 1: makes the defensive line and be the coordinator. I mean,

947
00:57:26,760 --> 00:57:29,560
Speaker 1: that's why he can be technically the defensive line. And

948
00:57:29,640 --> 00:57:33,160
Speaker 1: he's probably looking for an assistant defense. I mean, he's

949
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 1: got Scott leon let, but he has another spot there

950
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,200
Speaker 1: if he assuming they keep let h and then just

951
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 1: have a guy there to help out for more of

952
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 1: the clerical work. But he could he could be the

953
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:49,479
Speaker 1: defensive line coach. You know, I saw an interesting note

954
00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: on on Dan Quinn. Uh, And I don't know what

955
00:57:53,200 --> 00:57:58,720
Speaker 1: the narrative is outside there about the Cowboys hiring dan Quinn.

956
00:57:59,320 --> 00:58:01,880
Speaker 1: You know I heard some people go, oh yeah, let

957
00:58:01,960 --> 00:58:06,360
Speaker 1: me get excited about that. Well, okay, fine, but but

958
00:58:06,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: think about this. The guy has a long resume as

959
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:14,040
Speaker 1: a defensive line coach. And I read where the Cowboys

960
00:58:14,200 --> 00:58:17,760
Speaker 1: hired him just in time, because that's who Urban Meyer

961
00:58:18,080 --> 00:58:23,240
Speaker 1: wanted to hire as his defensive coordinator in Jacksonville. He

962
00:58:23,720 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 1: had circled dan Quinn to be his defensive coordinator, and

963
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,400
Speaker 1: the Cowboys beat him to the punch. So what everybody

964
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: thinks of the great Urban Meyer? You know that that

965
00:58:34,400 --> 00:58:38,080
Speaker 1: was his notion to fill out that spot for himself.

966
00:58:38,800 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: And then the other thing, speaking of urban Meyer, I

967
00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: saw Scott Linahan's name came up as an offensive coordinator

968
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:51,800
Speaker 1: candidate for that job too. So another guy that the

969
00:58:51,920 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: narrative out there wasn't very kind to, even though he

970
00:58:55,760 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: took a rookie quarterback in twenty sixteen at one thirteen games.

971
00:59:00,600 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: You know, and this whole notion about the Cowboys run

972
00:59:03,080 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: the ball too much, Well, we keep talking about these playoffs,

973
00:59:07,400 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: on how successful these teams have been running the football

974
00:59:11,720 --> 00:59:17,680
Speaker 1: during the playoffs, So take that. Hey, what wins championships?

975
00:59:17,800 --> 00:59:21,760
Speaker 1: Obviously defense first of all. But I've learned this year

976
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:26,920
Speaker 1: offensive lineman. Yes, the offensive line can win you championships,

977
00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:32,840
Speaker 1: especially that this year. Never too old to learn something.

978
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 1: I'll tell you that it can turn you into you

979
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:39,560
Speaker 1: can turn you into six and ten or five and eleven.

980
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:43,440
Speaker 1: Whatever the hell It ended up real quickly. And then

981
00:59:43,480 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 1: another note on a former Cowboy coach, Dan Campbell. I

982
00:59:47,160 --> 00:59:49,320
Speaker 1: don't know if Detroit made it deficient yet, but they

983
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: were supposed to announce that today as hiring him as

984
00:59:52,200 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 1: a head coach. Was it such somewhat of an upset

985
00:59:55,240 --> 00:59:57,360
Speaker 1: if you think about it, because all these head coaches

986
00:59:57,400 --> 01:00:00,880
Speaker 1: that are getting hired these days, they're all coordinators, a

987
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: coordinator of offensive, coordinator of defense. And Dan Campbell basically

988
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: was an assistant assistant head coach to Sean Payton and

989
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 1: the tight ends coach. So uh, that's that's rather remarkable. Okay.

990
01:00:17,640 --> 01:00:21,280
Speaker 1: And then how about do you think Jason Witten would

991
01:00:21,320 --> 01:00:26,680
Speaker 1: be interested in the Tennessee job? Wow, I thought of that.

992
01:00:26,840 --> 01:00:29,240
Speaker 1: I thought of that yesterday when I saw what happened

993
01:00:29,240 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 1: to Prim. I would not at all be surprised if

994
01:00:34,840 --> 01:00:40,120
Speaker 1: he's a top candidate. See, I don't know, maybe, and

995
01:00:40,320 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 1: I don't want to disregard anyone's talent and ability to inspire,

996
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:49,200
Speaker 1: But for some reason, I see Witten would inspire high

997
01:00:49,240 --> 01:00:53,080
Speaker 1: school players a whole lot more than he will college players. Well,

998
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: I be in the high school coach here. I remember

999
01:00:57,160 --> 01:00:59,000
Speaker 1: maybe it was a couple of years ago when all

1000
01:00:59,040 --> 01:01:02,440
Speaker 1: the notion came up that you know, he that Tennessee

1001
01:01:02,600 --> 01:01:05,920
Speaker 1: needs to hire him to him, right, they talked to him,

1002
01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:10,520
Speaker 1: And I had said something to somebody uh around here

1003
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:14,560
Speaker 1: that I respect, and and and I said something, Well,

1004
01:01:14,600 --> 01:01:17,520
Speaker 1: I think the hardest thing he would have is knowing

1005
01:01:17,720 --> 01:01:22,120
Speaker 1: enough people to hire a staff. Uh and and you know,

1006
01:01:22,400 --> 01:01:26,560
Speaker 1: without having been in the coaching circles, and I was

1007
01:01:26,960 --> 01:01:29,240
Speaker 1: I got looked at like I was cross eyed, and

1008
01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:33,800
Speaker 1: was told, don't underestimate Jason Witten and his ability to

1009
01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 1: put a staff together. Okay, just like that, I said, Okay,

1010
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,320
Speaker 1: so maybe maybe it's a possible. Look, they're gonna need

1011
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:46,080
Speaker 1: they're gonna need a name to uh get through what

1012
01:01:46,200 --> 01:01:48,120
Speaker 1: they're getting ready to get through. Right, They're gonna get

1013
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,960
Speaker 1: prot on probation. Is that right? He hasn't rest. No,

1014
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 1: That's why I asked the question the way I did.

1015
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,560
Speaker 1: I think there's no doubt he would be a candid.

1016
01:01:57,600 --> 01:02:00,440
Speaker 1: If they didn't have the recruiting violations and the probation

1017
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:02,240
Speaker 1: they're about to go through, I think there'd be no

1018
01:02:02,400 --> 01:02:04,480
Speaker 1: doubt he'd be all over that job. That's why I

1019
01:02:04,480 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 1: asked the question the way I did. Would he be

1020
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:08,840
Speaker 1: interested in it? Because they are gonna be I mean

1021
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,680
Speaker 1: they're already internally they fired the head coach and nine

1022
01:02:13,680 --> 01:02:17,320
Speaker 1: assistant coaches. Obviously they did something that's the NCAA is

1023
01:02:17,360 --> 01:02:19,440
Speaker 1: going to come down big time on him. So he's

1024
01:02:19,480 --> 01:02:22,080
Speaker 1: gonna be Whoever takes that job is going to be

1025
01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:25,640
Speaker 1: so far behind the eight ball as far as scholarship

1026
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,400
Speaker 1: limitations and so forth, it may just be a no

1027
01:02:28,520 --> 01:02:32,760
Speaker 1: win situation for whoever takes that job. I mean, that's that,

1028
01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:35,720
Speaker 1: that's not the death penalty, but it's gonna come close,

1029
01:02:35,920 --> 01:02:40,200
Speaker 1: I guarantee you, especially in the SEC. Yes, yeah, absolutely.

1030
01:02:40,280 --> 01:02:43,040
Speaker 1: They weren't doing anything in the SEC anyway, so they well,

1031
01:02:43,200 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: you know, well what happened, that's right. Well no, if

1032
01:02:45,880 --> 01:02:48,640
Speaker 1: you think about it last not this this season, but

1033
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,200
Speaker 1: the previous season, they finished like on a six seven

1034
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:55,080
Speaker 1: game winning streak, and they were they were projected to

1035
01:02:55,240 --> 01:02:58,360
Speaker 1: top twenty team this year in the polls, and everybody

1036
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:03,160
Speaker 1: was expecting them to win the win the East, and

1037
01:03:03,680 --> 01:03:10,560
Speaker 1: they just fell apart, just fell apart big time. All right,

1038
01:03:10,800 --> 01:03:13,240
Speaker 1: Well that does it for this edition to Mix Shots.

1039
01:03:14,520 --> 01:03:17,280
Speaker 1: We got a lot to discuss next week on mix

1040
01:03:17,360 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: Shots because we will have a Super Bowl matchup and

1041
01:03:21,240 --> 01:03:27,960
Speaker 1: our teams are, oh you want us to pick Casey

1042
01:03:29,040 --> 01:03:34,360
Speaker 1: K Kansas City and Green Bay and Green Bay, and

1043
01:03:34,640 --> 01:03:36,840
Speaker 1: oh you want me to go on the NFC side.

1044
01:03:36,880 --> 01:03:40,440
Speaker 1: If I'm going on the NFC side, I gotta go

1045
01:03:40,520 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: with Packers. I gotta go with Aaron Rodgers. All right,

1046
01:03:43,080 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 1: you got the home teams winning, Mickey, you got the

1047
01:03:45,320 --> 01:03:52,120
Speaker 1: home teams winning. Yes, okay, I'll go ahead on the

1048
01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, Kansas City and Tampa Bay hosting a

1049
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl Brady versus Holmes and only doing that because

1050
01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:04,720
Speaker 1: I want to be different. Oh and and it would

1051
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 1: be the first time in history, right, the team hosting

1052
01:04:07,360 --> 01:04:11,960
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl play in it. I'm gonna leave you.

1053
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:15,800
Speaker 1: I'm gonna leave you with one last mix shot. Okay. Uh.

1054
01:04:16,200 --> 01:04:20,640
Speaker 1: They kept talking about when Aaron Rodgers ran for a

1055
01:04:20,760 --> 01:04:24,240
Speaker 1: touchdown uh in the game, and it was the first

1056
01:04:24,280 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: time a quarterback, a Green Bay Packers quarterback ran for

1057
01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:31,280
Speaker 1: a playoff touchdown since nineteen No, no way, no, wait,

1058
01:04:31,400 --> 01:04:33,960
Speaker 1: let me let me no, I got it wrong. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the first time since nineteen that the run for a

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Speaker 1: touchdown since bart Star ran in Yeah, thank you Fags. Yes,

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Speaker 1: we appreciate that, that memory. Yeah, I get chills. I

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Speaker 1: get chills right now thinking about that game. Yes, I

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Speaker 1: that note. And I've told Bill. I've told Bill the

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Speaker 1: story because you know, I grew up a Packers fan,

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Speaker 1: right and uh, yeah, we know when they when they

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Speaker 1: lighted up, when they lighted up to go for it

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Speaker 1: with what was it, thirteen seconds left in no timeouts,

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Speaker 1: and I'm yelling at my dad. I'm going, what's he doing?

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Speaker 1: He's got to kick a field goal. If he doesn't

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Speaker 1: get in the games over, they're gonna lose a little,

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Speaker 1: did I know? Or as Tex said dying, Bob really

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Speaker 1: couldn't get any footing. Yeah, as text Ram said to

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Speaker 1: his dying day, he said, the worst call a coach

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Speaker 1: has ever made in the history of the NFL to

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Speaker 1: go for it in that situation. Well, hey, maybe if

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Speaker 1: it's not a bad call, if it works, that's right,

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Speaker 1: That's exactly right. All right. That does it for mix

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Speaker 1: Shots for a Tuesday the nineteenth today, I believe it's nineteen.

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Speaker 1: We will see you again next Tuesday for a Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl edition of Shots. It's all end in the Senior

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Speaker 1: Bowl next week. See you next week, Go Cowboys. This

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