00:00:08 Speaker 1: And I invited you here. I thought I made myself perfectly clear. When you're a guest in my home, you gotta come to me empty. And I said, no guests, your presences. 00:00:29 Speaker 2: Presents, and. 00:00:31 Speaker 1: I'm already had too much stuff. 00:00:35 Speaker 2: So how do you dare to surbey me? 00:00:47 Speaker 3: Welcome to? I said, no gifts. I'm Bridger whine a girl, and I will continue to be for the foreseeable future. You're you're catching me fresh off a you know, the day after a migraine. So this is a new me. I've got a new lease on life. I'm looking at computer screens again. I'm no longer sensitive to light, and so I'm going to take advantage of that now. And the way I'm going to take advantage of it is I'm going to have a zoom conversation with my fantastic guest. You may have heard of her, Georgia hard Stark. Georgia, Welcome to. 00:01:28 Speaker 4: I said, no gifts, Richard, thank you, it's great to be here. 00:01:32 Speaker 5: Georgia. 00:01:33 Speaker 3: Do you ever get migraines? 00:01:34 Speaker 4: Yes, that sucks. I feel you. 00:01:37 Speaker 3: It is the worst I realized yesterday when this happened to me. Usually they come to me in the late afternoon or evening and that I can just go to bed. Yesterday it was eleven am. Could not go back to sleep. I realized, this is the sickness that you can't watch TV. Yeah, it's truly as bad as it gets. 00:01:56 Speaker 4: You can't even like, yeah, chill out and eat like whatever you want from the TV to feel bad. Right, you can't read a book now, nothing, you can do nothing. Oh my god. That and heartburn, I feel like, are the things that if you have never had them, you'll eat. There's no way to understand how awful they are. 00:02:12 Speaker 3: Right, do you get a lot of heartburn? 00:02:14 Speaker 4: I used to, and then I think I realized it was because I was just eating bad. It's definitely like my fault somehow, Right, that's heartburn for me. 00:02:26 Speaker 3: I always am just like, well, it's because I'll eat garbage and it'll exactly lead to heartburn. And I'll just say, you know what, that's just the trade off that we're going to have here, Right, I'm going to eat like I'm in a heartburn commercial. I'll have chili at a diner or whatever, and then I have this. But I think my I think my heartburn is fairly mild. 00:02:48 Speaker 4: Okay. I've had the ones where it's like, oh, you get why it's called heartburn, which sounds so silly, but it's like, oh, your heart is on fire, that's why this whatever. I'm sure, yeah, yeah, she feels like I'd like, yeah, it feels like an old dude and a diner truck driver thing. And I'm like, why is this happening to me? Why do you get migraines? Is something I know. 00:03:12 Speaker 3: I think it's just genetic. I get it about once a year. It's usually in the falls. So we're narrowing in at least on a time frame for these things for me. But oh, it's interesting. I don't know what triggers it. I know my mom gets them pretty frequently, so this is just my continued transformation into her. And but the good thing about her getting them is she at least has advice. I was able to call her and she you know, walked me through it. 00:03:37 Speaker 4: Can I give you one? I believe everyone does this. 00:03:41 Speaker 3: She haven't gotten any yet. 00:03:42 Speaker 4: She's look into botox. Botox botox treats migraines. I think, I don't know for sure. I think it's your jaw where it relates. It's a thing, I promise. I don't know the details, but I've definitely heard that, and then you can have an excuse as to why you got right. I don't think you need one. 00:04:02 Speaker 3: But I'm going to get blasted with books. I'm going to be unrecognizable. 00:04:06 Speaker 4: I'm a big fan of it. It's good. 00:04:08 Speaker 2: Wow. 00:04:09 Speaker 3: I wonder how I mean if is it like something you have to get frequently or is it I. 00:04:13 Speaker 4: Think brotos in general wears off in like a year. I want to say, so probably. 00:04:19 Speaker 3: You just get some botulism shot into your jaw. 00:04:22 Speaker 4: You just get poison in your body, face wollow. 00:04:28 Speaker 5: Have you ever had botox? 00:04:29 Speaker 4: Yeah? Yeah, isn't painful. No, it's like a it's a needle in your face, So that sucks. Okay, but you know what I mean, It's like it's just that part that makes sense, and they sometimes put some numbing cream on you, so it's not that bad, and it's like a tattoo where you're like, I'm excited for what's happening. It's not like a flu shot where like this just sucks. 00:04:49 Speaker 3: Yeah. I was going to ask you, pain wise, would you compare it more beasting or flu shot? Because I feel like a flu shot is like a. 00:04:55 Speaker 4: Thick like yeah, you know, i'd say flu shot, but it's like you get like like a dozen pokes in your face, so it's like over and over. It sucks. It's not fine, sure, but it does. 00:05:08 Speaker 3: It is a self improvement project rather than you know, a flu shot. It's more of just like buying a lottery ticket to make sure you don't get the flu. Yeah, this is an interesting tip. I mean, maybe I need to share that with my mom. I hope my mom looks twenty years younger. 00:05:25 Speaker 4: Yeah, I hope. I almost want to google that now to be like, did I make that up? 00:05:30 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go I'm gonna fly into this blind. 00:05:33 Speaker 4: I might have made that up, so let's google it before you go do it. 00:05:37 Speaker 3: I'm going to go get boatos in the middle of COVID based off of a podcast tip. 00:05:43 Speaker 4: I don't want you to, like egg, get migraines and not be able to emote with your face because that's my batt'll be my pall and I'll feel bad about it. 00:05:51 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, and then I'm getting migraines and people can't even tell the agony. I'm going Really, I've got to at least be able to get the pity. 00:05:59 Speaker 4: Yeah, you're a writer, and like a comic, you have to be able to show your feelings. 00:06:04 Speaker 3: Right, I've heard about this show. Have you been watching The Undoing? 00:06:08 Speaker 4: Okay, we just talked about it on the podcast of Karen and I. I got so bored of it in the beginning, but then I didn't know the spoiler. 00:06:15 Speaker 3: Okay, I haven't watched any of it, but now I know the spoiler too, So I now I know the spoiler and that it's boring. So it's hard for me to get motivated. 00:06:22 Speaker 4: It's just like it's just rich people having rich people problems. But it's Nicole Kidman or is that what you're talking about? How? 00:06:28 Speaker 2: Yes? 00:06:28 Speaker 4: Yes, my god, she's perfection. 00:06:32 Speaker 5: What has uh? 00:06:33 Speaker 3: I mean the last thing I watched with her was the other rich people problem show. 00:06:37 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yes, yes, And. 00:06:41 Speaker 3: So she's just I guess she's just really uh going. 00:06:45 Speaker 4: For it, keeping it up on the botox and filler. Good for her, yeah, good for her her self improvement. I'm all for it. 00:06:53 Speaker 3: I mean, the thing that I need Nicole Kidman to settle on is accents. I don't what I could not tell you what her real accent is at this point. 00:07:02 Speaker 4: No, we should go back and she's Australian, right for sure. But I don't hear it anymore. 00:07:08 Speaker 3: Right, you just hear it like bubble up every now and again where it makes her seem like she really don't know where she's Yeah, she's rich. I guess that's something. 00:07:16 Speaker 4: Rich, richhisticated. 00:07:19 Speaker 3: Oh, to get the rich accent, that's what we're all looking for. It is to just sound kind of on. No one knows where you're actually from, but it's a pile of money. 00:07:29 Speaker 4: It only comes from generational wealth. I feel like, so we're just fucked. 00:07:35 Speaker 3: You are where I reveal that I come from an oil fortune. 00:07:43 Speaker 4: Oil fortune ship. I should have known this. 00:07:46 Speaker 3: Oil fortune goes back to Adam and Eve. So we've never you know this, we were I've been born into money and have not. I've never faced a challenge, good smooth, not a rough edge on. 00:08:00 Speaker 4: Wow. Wow, Well you deserve those migraines. In that case, I'm happy. I don't think you should get botox. That's the family curse. No challenges, but light migraines once a year. Georgia, how are you? What's going on? I'm okay? I just got off my therapy, second therapy of the week, Zoom therapy. Honestly, if I'm thinking about because I have therapy with my mom now. 00:08:26 Speaker 3: Oh, wonderful A couple that's great. 00:08:28 Speaker 4: That's I probably could use that. I think everyone could probably right. 00:08:32 Speaker 3: Oh, absolutely, to have some real conversations. Yeah, but you're feeling good. I'm feeling good. 00:08:39 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:08:40 Speaker 3: I was your therapist pre COVID. Is this the same therapist you had pre COVID? 00:08:46 Speaker 4: I saw her two times, like you know, in February, right before COVID. Okay, so I'm glad I had that because I imagine it'd be a little more harder to get into it in Zoom if you just met them randomly. 00:08:59 Speaker 3: Right. That's that's been my concern. I had a therapist late last year. I had been looking for a therapist all over the place. I found this woman. She seemed pretty good, and then at the end of our first session, she said, oh, by the way, in two months, I'm moving to Minneapolis. 00:09:17 Speaker 5: Why did you accept me? 00:09:18 Speaker 3: That's weird it was I wouldn't have come if I had known this was not going to be a thing. And she said at the time, well, we could do it over FaceTime. I was like, not in a million years, why would I do that? 00:09:29 Speaker 4: Back then, I'd be like, are you fucking why would I do? Are you crazy? Actually? Mine moved in like a month ago, moved to upstate New York. Well she was at your house where I dropped off your present. 00:09:40 Speaker 3: Well you're kidding. I hope she was in my house. I bought my house from your therapist. 00:09:43 Speaker 4: Yeah, thank you for that. 00:09:46 Speaker 5: Yeah. 00:09:46 Speaker 4: Now, so it doesn't matter now. 00:09:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, of course. But at the time, Yeah, this lady was packing up and heading to Minneapolis. Why was she accepting that? 00:09:54 Speaker 4: I mean, I think, are you going to go back to her? 00:09:57 Speaker 3: Like, no, I'm about that. 00:10:00 Speaker 4: You never, I's going to spring on you now. 00:10:02 Speaker 3: It could be anything I'll get. I'll get back in touch with her, and she's going to say she's only doing in person maskless. 00:10:10 Speaker 4: Exactly. 00:10:10 Speaker 3: I'm in a closet now and you have to meet me here, and I constantly have COVID. Yeah, so I'm I'm kind of, uh free, I'm just emotionally free falling currently. But you know you, I feel like people are having some success with this sort of thing, uh FaceTime therapy, So I just need to get into. 00:10:29 Speaker 4: It, you do, and actually, if you need help. I feel like I'm a really good therapist matchmaker, Yanta, because like someone will ask me for a therapist a friend, like someone I kind of know, and I'll be able to go through There's a directory online that Psychology Today puts out a therapist in your area, and I'll just look at their face and their bio and be like, oh, Carrie would love this chick. And I'll see I'm like. 00:10:52 Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's what I need because I get on that thing. And I just I said this to people before, but I truly need like a therapist that will to get me to a therapist to get me to the step of finding therapy right just that little because I have certain psychological issues that lead to me delaying, push, putting things off. Sure, yeah, avoidance right exactly. So to have we need that special category of mental health assistance that gets you into therapy. 00:11:25 Speaker 4: I think that we should start a matchmaking business. That's great, right, yeah, millions health here, what are you looking for? Like, what's your do you have like a gender? Do you need them to be. 00:11:39 Speaker 3: I don't have a gender. I need somebody who is willing to kind of pry things out. 00:11:45 Speaker 4: Of me too. 00:11:46 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not someone who's going to volunteer. I mean, despite having a podcast. Yeah, but in a clinical setting, I'm I will just stare at the carpet for forty five minutes. 00:11:56 Speaker 4: Until I can leave. I need a conversation, right him to fill a majority of that. Otherwise I'm not going especially in like the first month, I'm not thinking, who are you? I'm telling you shit can now I'll be moving to Minneapolis for all you No, You're gonna break my heart. 00:12:15 Speaker 3: Yeah, I need those training wheels, at least initially to just let me open up, because you know, I meant five years into a relationship and I'm still not sharing all of my feelings. 00:12:25 Speaker 4: I'm not going to keep doing that with a doctor. We need just like Vince and here are seven years together and I'm like, how have I just figured out how to talk to you about like this fucking psychological thing? Like, oh wow, this is how people stay together for a long time. I never understood it. I was like, I know, don't you get bored after ten years? Oh no, you're a growing human who shares. 00:12:47 Speaker 3: Yourself, yes, and just honest. And yet Jim is on the opposite end of the spectrum where he will share every feeling and it's shocking to me. He'll be on the phone with his mom and just be having honest, open conversations where they're able to end the conversation without being mad at each other. 00:13:05 Speaker 4: It's crazy, Like even getting on the phone with my mom is a fucking just like it's a matrix of like hoops and you know, like when you're going when someone's breaking into a bank, Yeah, just to like pick up the phone, or like I see my mom's name pop up on my phone, it's like cold sweats. What's she going to say? 00:13:29 Speaker 2: What is? 00:13:30 Speaker 4: Is she mad about me? Or she is about Israel? I don't thock know you got anything? So good for him? And maybe I think that we both married normal people, which is like I feel like that makes a good couple. Is one really eccentric, quirky person issues? Shouldn't marry people who've got their shit together? 00:13:54 Speaker 3: And h absolutely yeah, if it were both of us in a relationship with a similar person, that would call them part immediately or end in some sort of violence. 00:14:02 Speaker 4: Right, like with two actors together, Like what do you fucking do? 00:14:05 Speaker 3: Oh? That does not that I'm sorry that is such a recipe for disass We're. 00:14:09 Speaker 4: Two therapists together, Like, no, you're thinking. 00:14:12 Speaker 3: Always spy versus spy, right, Oh yeah, it's a it's a challenge. 00:14:17 Speaker 4: And what are you going to do? Life is a challenge. 00:14:20 Speaker 3: Life is more than ever. But we're, uh, you know, we're closing in on what seems to be a vaccine for some people. 00:14:28 Speaker 4: Yeah, which is straighting. 00:14:30 Speaker 3: Do you feel like you're going to get the vaccine immediately when it's available or you're going to wait and see if humanity gets wiped out? 00:14:37 Speaker 4: I feel like I should definitely give it a beat to make all the people who really need to be out in the world right one because I'm fine, Like everything I need to do I can do at home, So I don't want to be like I deserve one. Now I'm a podcaster, you know. 00:14:53 Speaker 3: Beat coming through. 00:14:54 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I have some agoraphobia, so like, the longer I can stay in the house, the fucking better. So it's just like, no, I can't get it yet, so let everyone else get it, make sure they don't turn into zombies. At the same time, It's like and then yeah, I'm I am like pro vaccine absolutely give them all to me. You know, even though I don't need fucking bring them, I'm absolutely in that boat. 00:15:21 Speaker 3: I had the thought the other day if what if we give them to the medical community first, it kills off Oh you know what if it kills off the entire medical community. I feel like that's the beginning of a movie where we're all left here without our medical professionals. 00:15:36 Speaker 4: Okay, let's do have these like let's do half like a through what's half of the alphabet. 00:15:44 Speaker 3: Like a through L for L. This is where we learn how to. 00:15:50 Speaker 4: Two truly and then everyone else. 00:15:53 Speaker 3: Yes, I think yeah, I like tone in the water with the medical community got into something. Otherwise we could all be left here. But you know, maybe that's just what we're headed towards, and we just embrace it. 00:16:04 Speaker 4: And I know, I mean, yeah, I've been waiting for the end days for quite a while. 00:16:10 Speaker 3: I think for all health, it's not going to happen. Don't get your hopes up. This vaccine is going to be it's going to make us all healthy again, and then we're. 00:16:21 Speaker 4: Going to go back to nothing will have changed, Insie, We will have learned nothing, not a goddamn thing. 00:16:29 Speaker 3: I will head back to the movies. That's right, it's weird. I mean the last I saw you was at the Leapier party. Oh god, yeah, we were packed into a bar and U we were and it was just starting to write. I mean the point that I'd like it had barely crossed my radar. 00:16:49 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:16:50 Speaker 4: But then like a week later is when I was like, oh, we should have taken that seriously Billy at the Leapier party, because that was stupid. It. You don't think anyone got sick as far as I know, I mean, I hope not. 00:17:04 Speaker 3: I mean, I and now everyone's saying this, like your Everyone's like, I think I had COVID early on, but I do. I swear I had. I had loss of taste and smell. I had a horrible fever. I had all of these things. And I had had a flu shot. So I don't know what the sickness was that I had if it weren't COVID. 00:17:24 Speaker 4: The loss of taste and smell feels seems like a really big, like a really big thing, So I mean, why not. It's not like we can be like okay on flu in February fourteenth or whatever Valentine's Day, you know, so why not I'm having that. 00:17:40 Speaker 3: I just claim, like the title of early super spreader. 00:17:45 Speaker 4: It's actually all your fault this whole time, saying I hope this all goes back to yeah, oh you, Okay, you have a center of attention thing. Okay, got it, I'll tell that. I'll find a therapist who can handle that. Oh well, I don't think I got it. 00:18:01 Speaker 3: Ever, Okay, and I hopefully you won't. I mean, I feel like if I didn't get it, then I will get it five minutes before I get the vaccine. Like on my way to the vaccine, I'll roll the window down and someone will sneeze on that. 00:18:14 Speaker 4: And uh, you know what I did today for the very first time, is I scolded someone for not wearing a mask. 00:18:20 Speaker 5: Oh out for you? 00:18:21 Speaker 3: Where were you? 00:18:22 Speaker 4: Oh my god? I was at Okay, listen to this. I go to the fucking pharmacy to pick up a prescription, and the head pharmacist is it not he's filling prescriptions, he's taking calls, he's touching everything. 00:18:36 Speaker 3: He's licking pills. 00:18:38 Speaker 4: He's licking pills. I probably mine or I'll contaminate it now because he's like, fuck you. So I go it's like my little neighborhood pharmacy, you going to forever. The guy at the front, who's I'm talking cashier, who I've known forever. He's a sweet older dude. And I was like, is there a reason that guy doesn't have a mask on? And he goes He kind of whispers to me like, well, he's it on when he comes up front, but it's literally like behind him. It's not the rightway. And the windows open to the pharm you see. And I go, well, that doesn't really do anything. And he goes, well, he owns the place, so I can't really say anything. Oh, And I go I will and under his breath and I was like, shut out, And under his breath he goes do it like because he couldn't. Oh my god. And I'm really I don't like confrontation. It fucking scares me. So even on my mind, I'm like tough, I'm not. So I goes, excuse me, sir, is there a reason you're not wearing a mask? And I was ready for, like, you know what, the confrontation, and he was he got so sheepish, Oh well it's in my pocket, And I was like, sick. People come in here. 00:19:44 Speaker 3: And that's what place it's about for. 00:19:47 Speaker 4: It's sick people here, and so he took it. He sheepishly took it out and put it on and made some excuse about how when he's on the phone it's muffled. 00:19:54 Speaker 3: Oh me a break. 00:19:56 Speaker 4: I was like, oh, it felt good. I would for you. I would try it. It feels really good. That's why just amazing. It'sregious. 00:20:06 Speaker 3: I mean, there is just really no excuse for this person. 00:20:10 Speaker 4: You work in the medical fields. 00:20:13 Speaker 3: You are constantly surrounded by people who are their immune systems have something going on, and you have. 00:20:19 Speaker 4: A fucking odd dat and you're handling their medic Okay, yeah, and poor Totally. I felt like I stood up for the workers of the world. And now I'm basically a hero. You don't have to say no. 00:20:35 Speaker 3: I'm putting in an order for your trophy now and we'll get that to you as soon as possible. 00:20:40 Speaker 4: Appreciate you, well, you. 00:20:48 Speaker 3: Know, speaking of giving people things and that kind of thing you mentioned earlier, you were in my neighborhood recently, and I, you know, this is a topic I don't like to get in to that often on the podcast, and so I try to avoid it the other day you left something on my porch. 00:21:09 Speaker 4: No, I'm so sorry. Please don't be mad, you know, Okay, I won't be mad. 00:21:16 Speaker 2: I will. 00:21:16 Speaker 3: I'll hold off on that. We'll just I'll try to tamp down my natural temper. You drop something off that appears to be a gift. Yes, Georgia, you know we have a complicated relationship. I'm essentially for friends. I'm also essentially your employee, so I'm in this feels like a compromise situation. 00:21:40 Speaker 5: Is this gift for me? 00:21:41 Speaker 4: It's for you? My mom always taught me you have to bring a hostess gift. You have to send a thank you get like. It's just you're a bad person if you don't. So it's right more about me? 00:21:53 Speaker 3: Okay, okay, so this is maybe I can just thrust this onto you and clean my hands. 00:21:58 Speaker 4: Yes, do you want me to open the gift? You should? I think you should. And it's exciting for me because now I get to explain my gift giving. Uh what plant? What is it like? A gift giving thing? I do? Yes, I'm really bad at giving gifts and it gives me so much anxiety because it's hard. 00:22:20 Speaker 3: Right, So why does it give you anxiety. 00:22:22 Speaker 4: Because I think I'm going to get it wrong. What if the person hates it? You know, I have I spent enough money about you know what's the proto? 00:22:31 Speaker 2: Right right? 00:22:32 Speaker 3: There are a lot of factors there. 00:22:34 Speaker 4: Yeah, so recent like a couple of years ago, I figured out a way that works. So open the small one first. 00:22:40 Speaker 3: Okay, it's in this kind of beautiful, kind of a wintry rap, I would say. 00:22:45 Speaker 4: Yes, And I need to apologize to you for that rap because it has glitter all over it, and now your house is going to be like mine is fucking covered in glitter. 00:22:54 Speaker 3: I took some photos with the gift prior to this, with the Instagram or whatever, and looked down at my hands immediately after I thought, I'll wonderful covered it glitter. 00:23:04 Speaker 4: My cats have glitter all or like. It's everywhere now, So I'm sorry. 00:23:08 Speaker 3: I don't think that that's you know, people complain about glitter getting everywhere. Who cares? Glitter is a fun thing to look at, true, it just makes everything shiny. I'm actually now saying that there's there's literally glitter under my nostril. 00:23:20 Speaker 4: Yeah you're gonna Oh, I thought your nose was running this whole time. I swear to God, which I have asked someone whose nose is constantly running out. Know if you already saw me white my nose on my dress a minute ago. I appreciated that, and. 00:23:32 Speaker 3: I wanted to be very clear with you. That is glitter that I cannot remove from my face. 00:23:38 Speaker 4: Oh my god, I'm like I felt like a kinship with you because I have such bad allergies. 00:23:42 Speaker 3: I just okay, I'm gonna open the So what I. 00:23:45 Speaker 4: Do now is I find out what state the person's from. And so I hired a private investigator and found out you were from. 00:23:52 Speaker 3: Utah, right, Okay, I wish this was something from Missouri or some Yeah, when I got it wrong, I paid a privacy investigator one thousand dollars. 00:24:01 Speaker 4: Then I opened a guaranteed me. So I go to Etsy and I put in like Utah vintage, the same and vintage, and then I'm able to find which is like totally my style, like Kitschy souvenirs from that person's home state. That's genius. Yes, so open that one. 00:24:20 Speaker 3: I'm going to open this up. I feel like I've been doing a bad job of getting the wrapping audio recently, so we're gonna. 00:24:28 Speaker 4: Re at Asmri. 00:24:30 Speaker 3: Yeah. I feel like there's at least one listener that just really appreciates. 00:24:35 Speaker 4: Yeah, hearing a little crinkle opening gifts. 00:24:40 Speaker 3: Oh oh, this is beautiful Utah shot class. With all of these different Utah You've got the Bryce CanYa National Park, Zion National Park. 00:24:53 Speaker 4: Zion. 00:24:53 Speaker 3: By the way, a lot of people say you can tell someone's not from Utah when they call Zion. 00:24:58 Speaker 4: I didn't Zion. 00:24:59 Speaker 3: It's called yeh. That's a little Utah secret. If you're trying to infiltrate the Utah community, you're gonna want to see Zion do the lazy pronunciation of Zion. 00:25:08 Speaker 4: That's good to know. 00:25:09 Speaker 3: You've got the Beehive it's the Beehive State. And then dinosaur Land, which shout out to Stephen Ray Morris, he's been to dinosaur Land. Wow, it's in I believe Vernal, Utah, which is I think it's kind of like an old, maybe decrepit dinosaur museum. 00:25:26 Speaker 2: Cute. 00:25:27 Speaker 4: Well, because I think that looks like it's from the sixties. 00:25:30 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:25:30 Speaker 3: Absolutely, Oh my god, this is beautiful. 00:25:33 Speaker 4: I have to be honest, I thought it was a full sized glass when I bought it. And then it came and it's a shot class. 00:25:38 Speaker 3: So that's the trick of Etsy because I hold up here and that looks just like a full sized glass. 00:25:43 Speaker 4: Right, So I thought that was cute. And then for the other gift, as I was scrolling that, I found this other thing that isn't vintage, but it made me crack up. So there's this artist named Amber Cher. She's in like an illustrator and graphic designer, okay, and she had this great idea so you can start opening that where she draws these beautiful posters of national parks and she was like, I need something extra for this, So she went on to Yelp and found one star reviews of national parks and takes a quote from them and puts it on the poster. So I found one from Utah and it had a quote, and genius, I got it framed for you. This is incredible. Isn't that gorgeous? 00:26:33 Speaker 3: It says a disappointment to us across the type of the top of the Canyon Lands National Park. 00:26:39 Speaker 4: It's beautiful photo disappointed. And some motherfucker went there to this gorgeous fucking place that's nature talking and went on Yelp and wrote a disappointment to us, and people will write like too many trees or like not worth it, and then she'll in beautiful scripts write it and I'm just genius Amber share. Yeah, let me find her instagram real quick. 00:27:05 Speaker 3: That is tremendous a disappointment to us. What are people? 00:27:09 Speaker 4: What motivates someone to get on yelp for this? The instagram is called subpar parks and it's like amazingly boring and didn't arrive on time, total waste, don't bother, Like it's just not worth the hype of like a beach scene and what are you expecting all? Yeah, a commercoaster and a Denny's. It's all people want, so yeah, I love it. 00:27:37 Speaker 5: This sort of thing. 00:27:38 Speaker 3: To me with national parks, it's like you can get on the internet and see photos of what you're going to see, like where is the element of surprise here? 00:27:47 Speaker 2: No? 00:27:48 Speaker 4: Or like not reading your expectations of like what a national park should fucking be? 00:27:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't, I mean one of these. I haven't visited the Grand Canyon yet, and it's specifically for this reason because I think cartoons really lied to me as a child about what the Grand Canyon actually is, and I feel like, when I get there, I'm going to just have to restructure in my mind of this is incredible. It's not just a huge, a deep hole in the ground. It's more than that. 00:28:22 Speaker 4: It is, so you're you're worried you're going to be overwhelmed instead of underwhelmed both. 00:28:28 Speaker 3: I think it's going to be a confusing thing where it's like, oh, this isn't just something that evil and evil flies over and it's just essentially a v in the ground. 00:28:38 Speaker 4: Right or like what's his name, Wiley coyote hangs over before he falls to the bottom of it. I went when I was like, my dad used to take us camping every summer, which is I don't camp anymore because I fucking traumatize from it. But so we went to the Grand Canyon once when I was really young, and I definitely remember it being like overwhel like bigger than you thought it would be and more beautiful and like incredible. 00:29:03 Speaker 3: When you say bigger than you thought it would be, do you mean just more vast. Yes, that just takes up a larger piece of because I kind of picture like walking up and being able to just like look into the center of the Earth, and clearly that's not what it is. 00:29:18 Speaker 4: No, it's very vast and very crevicey, no cavernous, no crevicey and shaggedy like craggy, craggy is that the word towering? And you know you can see like you can see how old the earth is because of the lot the line like in a tree. You know it's aggressive. And then you're like, okay, this is definitely from like a meteor right, like. 00:29:44 Speaker 3: Something it's crashed here. 00:29:46 Speaker 4: You definitely feel like, oh, we're so tiny on this planet. 00:29:50 Speaker 3: I love to feel just as insignificant as possible. 00:29:54 Speaker 4: It's definitely like this, Oh our ants, and this is this is a simulation. Absolutely. 00:30:02 Speaker 3: Are you a big National park person? 00:30:05 Speaker 4: No, I don't want to go anywhere. I like to stay at home. I don't honestly don't want to go hiking. I think I'm going to get murdered if I go hiking. Of course, sorry to bring that up on this. This is not my favorite murder. 00:30:17 Speaker 3: This is Look, this is We do not talk about murder on this podcast because my bosses will shut me down. I've tried to turn it into a podcast exclusively about my favorite murders, and I got a season to sist and so we've had to kind of steer away from that. Back to the gifts portion. What was the last national park you were at? 00:30:39 Speaker 4: It might have been the Grand Canyon. 00:30:41 Speaker 3: As a child, the most traumatic trip to a national park? 00:30:45 Speaker 4: Yeah, I had to be as a kid, big sirn too. That might be it. 00:30:51 Speaker 5: Joshua Tree. 00:30:53 Speaker 4: Oh that's a national park. 00:30:56 Speaker 3: Is the national park? I think it is because there's a nation forest is the other thing? 00:31:01 Speaker 4: Ah? Okay, national things. 00:31:04 Speaker 3: National things. I feel like Joshua Tree was my last nache. I love a national park like nature. You're in the nature, I yeah. But Gym's not so much. He refuses to camp so that we run into and he doesn't like to hike. 00:31:20 Speaker 4: So, you know, I like those things and I want to do them, but I don't want to. I just want to be there. I don't want to drive, right, I don't want to deal with other people or traffic. 00:31:29 Speaker 3: You know, Well, this is what the where I run into trouble is. I'm not motivated. So the idea of doing those things is terrific. Yeah, but I need like a friend who you know, I feel like I'm surrounded by people who actively do these things. And I'm not I need one of them to adopt me. 00:31:47 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's like if neither you don't want to do it, it's just not going to happen. Like Vince and I, I keep saying I want to do it. I want to do it, and then I'm like, but I'm not motivated enough to like buy camping gear. I don't know what we need. Oh yeah I know, and like plan the trip and where we're gonna stay. 00:32:02 Speaker 3: It's just well, and with camping gear is such an investment. I'm like, what if I like the idea of camping, I go and spend one thousand dollars on camping equipment and then realize, oh, the idea was what I liked, but I actually hate sleeping on the ground. 00:32:16 Speaker 4: Now that's what's going to happen. I think you can rent RVs, which seems like a cool Oh that's not a bad idea. Yeah, I mean, but I. 00:32:24 Speaker 3: Shouldn't be behind the wheel of an RV exactly. 00:32:28 Speaker 4: Now you got to find a driver, and I would love to hire a driver for an RV. Like it's a limo ooh, Like what if they have like a what's it called that we don't use any more car share ride share. 00:32:42 Speaker 3: Oh they should have like it should just be called camper or. 00:32:48 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you can be like you could put in your app and be like pick me up here and drop me off here and then get the fuck out of here. Oh my god. And they can trail they can put their car on the trailer. Oh and then the. 00:33:00 Speaker 3: Yeah I think they have like a motorcycle on top of the RV but they drive off of it off and love you. 00:33:06 Speaker 4: Yeah, and like you have to pay extra for like a rad trick when they jump when off ARV. Yeah. 00:33:12 Speaker 3: I love imagining just a bunch of loose RVs driving around waiting to be summoned to people's homes, circling. 00:33:19 Speaker 4: Certain neighborhoods, and then those neighborhoods get angry and like file it motioned. 00:33:24 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I could get into that. 00:33:29 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:33:29 Speaker 3: I haven't been in a ride share since pre COVID. People are kind of still doing it, which to me seems dangerous. 00:33:39 Speaker 4: It seems like something that you you should only do if you like have to. I mean, I have a have friends who are still riding the bus to work because terrible. Yeah, before COVID. Yeah, in LA at least just rough. 00:33:54 Speaker 3: Yeah, but like have to get on the bus right now, and so many people have to do it. It's like, oh, what a bizarre world. 00:34:02 Speaker 4: Bless you. Yeah, those are the people who should get the vaccines first. 00:34:06 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, if you're on public transport in any way, you should get a vaccine along with half of the medical community eight whatever through it. Yes, and I think that would work. 00:34:18 Speaker 4: I don't know. Have you been to Utah. Yeah, I've been to Salt Lake City a couple of times, a couple of shows there. But I also went, like in high school for some reason with a boyfriend, and uh, it's lovely solidity, A lot of it's lovely. Yeah. 00:34:33 Speaker 3: You know, there's a lot of complications that come along with the state, but altally, the natural element is truly beautiful. 00:34:41 Speaker 4: Yeah. And the people were all really nice, but it might have been because they were all like college students from other places you're saying. 00:34:49 Speaker 3: I mean, at least to your face, most people in Utah will be very sweet. Yeah, And there are so many wonderful so many my aunts. I've got some wonderful aunts. We're fans of this podcast. 00:35:00 Speaker 2: I love that. 00:35:02 Speaker 3: But then there are, as with any community, a lot of garbage people. But what are you going to do? 00:35:07 Speaker 4: I mean, where are you going to go? Or there's not at least this small population of jerks, right, but your aunt's going to be mad that I cursed so much. 00:35:16 Speaker 3: No, my aunts are very my. You know, I've got several ants that I have no contact with anymore, and I'm sure they're lovely. But you know, shout out to Aunt Rosemary. 00:35:29 Speaker 4: You know she's Rosemary in Utah. Is going to be mad that this young lady I'm forty on your podcast had such a filthy mouth. No, Aunt rose apologized to Anta Rosemary. 00:35:41 Speaker 3: Aunt Rosemary. She loves to listen, she's very fun, she's very easy going, and we love Aunt Rosemary. 00:35:49 Speaker 4: I apologize to her and no one else. 00:35:51 Speaker 3: I want you to apologize to Aunt Allison, Aunt Laura. Okay, the rest of the ants are on their own. 00:35:57 Speaker 4: If you're an aunt, I'm fucking sorry. 00:36:00 Speaker 3: This shot class. I mean, despite being very small, I feel like I may fill with milk and have with my cookies and uh, we'll see what happens. Do you have many shot glasses? 00:36:11 Speaker 4: I only have a couple. I feel like they're a little ghost to have around your house. You know what I mean. It's like, do you definitely have a poster tack to your wall if you have a large collection of shot glasses. So I have a couple of vintage ones and like, you know, measuring ones. 00:36:27 Speaker 3: Measuring oh for like mixed drinks and this sort of Yeah. 00:36:31 Speaker 4: For mixed drinks or for baking and stuff. And then but I don't take many shots, that's right. 00:36:36 Speaker 3: I would love for you to just be at home taking shots. 00:36:39 Speaker 4: Yeah, only when I'm really nervous and about to do like a show of some sort. 00:36:45 Speaker 3: Right, But you know, a mid day shot doesn't feels a little bit in quarantine? Do you have to say? 00:36:52 Speaker 4: Anything goes? I don't know. 00:36:53 Speaker 3: I feel like maybe we should play a game. 00:36:55 Speaker 4: Do you want to play a game? I always want to play a game. 00:36:58 Speaker 5: Do you want to play? 00:36:59 Speaker 3: We have the options gift or a curse or Gift Master, which I do feel like I need to tell people the home version is now now available. 00:37:07 Speaker 4: You've got to get it. 00:37:09 Speaker 3: I just got it too, and I was I mean, I wrote the whole thing and I was still thrilled out of my mind to be looking at it. 00:37:15 Speaker 4: It's incredible. It's like like we have a shit ton of merch, but that is like a next level, like when it's like when we got a puzzle made and it's like wow, like this. 00:37:25 Speaker 3: Is feels beyond merch right to feel it's like a font. It's something you can do. 00:37:31 Speaker 4: Yeah, so maybe we should do that to like promote it because we have it. I have a gift master. 00:37:37 Speaker 3: Okay, great, Okay, I need a number between one and ten three Okay while I do my calculating. You know, you can promote something, you can recommend something. I always suggest to tear someone down. People don't usually go for that. But you've got an undetermined amount of time. I'll be right back. 00:37:56 Speaker 4: Okay, when does this go up before Christmas or after? This will be a pre CRIMI okay, great. Then I'll talk about gifts ideas. Vince just got me a cheese and Charcooterie of the Month package and it just came and it's so freaking cool. So if there's anyone in your life that loves that kind of thing, which I absolutely do. He also before for my birthday got me once Plant of the Month club, which I highly recommend. Every month, I get this cute little plant with soil and all these things. What else. I'm really bad at giving gifts. I got him a Spengouli T shirt and a Jeopardy tear off calendar Day of the Week calendar magazine. Subscriptions is a great gift. I got my mom a scripscription to psychology today once. It was a subtle dig that because she needs psychology. Any kind of HGTV style magaza. You know, that was rough. 00:38:53 Speaker 3: It's rough for everyone, and that's kind of the excitement. 00:38:57 Speaker 4: We love it. 00:38:58 Speaker 3: We love a rough minute of not knowing what to talk about with no direction. But I feel like I was half listening and I felt like you gave some good information there. And it's an interesting thing to just throw somebody into the deep end. 00:39:14 Speaker 4: Of here you go talk. I'm sweating, but you should be. 00:39:19 Speaker 3: I like my guests to just be drenched and sweat by the end of an episode, swearing they'll never do it again. 00:39:26 Speaker 4: Yeah. 00:39:26 Speaker 3: Okay, So, gift Master, I'm going to tell you three celebrities, three famous people, and three gifts, and you're going to tell me which gift you're going to give, which celebrity and why. Okay, very easy, Okay. The three gifts you'll be giving today are a ski boat, so a boat which you can water ski behind. That's different than a fishing boat. Now number two is a calculator. I'm picturing kind of a TI eighty nine that you know you'd get in geometry class. 00:39:55 Speaker 4: You can also play. 00:39:56 Speaker 3: I remember there's a game called Pimp and Ain't Easy that you could play on the game classy. And then finally, the third gift is a bag of salads. So that's not really a fresh salad. It's more of a one of these grocery store salads with your various vegetables in it, leafy greens, i should say. And the people you're going to be giving them to are rapper Killer Mike okay, Queen Queen Elizabeth and pop songstress Robin Swedish Robin English Queen Elizabeth, and of course our American killer Mike Okay. 00:40:35 Speaker 4: Are there right answers or can I just make up? 00:40:38 Speaker 3: No? You know, I'll tell you how you did. This is a you know, gift or curses the other game we play, And there are definitely correct answers there, and I'm definitely willing to shame the guests when they get them wrong. This is this Unless you really flop this is more of a thinking exercise. 00:40:55 Speaker 4: Okay, well, I feel like the Queen. I mean, who wouldn't want to see the Queen on water skis, you know, and and or behind the wheel and just fucking like making her grandkids and kids get on there and just messing with them and like doing donuts in the water that with like you know, the princes whoever. 00:41:20 Speaker 3: The hairy on a tube or something. 00:41:21 Speaker 4: Yeah, it would be pretty and I would probably feel pretty good. 00:41:25 Speaker 5: I wonder if has she ever been on a high speed boat? 00:41:28 Speaker 4: Probably? Yeah, and she hated every minute of it. I wonder. 00:41:33 Speaker 3: I feel like she's kind of probably done a little bit of everything. 00:41:36 Speaker 4: But yeah, maybe for the like what's the Navy their equivalent of. 00:41:39 Speaker 3: The navy, British Navy, British that sounds right to me. 00:41:44 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm sure she had to do some like, you know, some photo op that she supports the British Navy, and she had to go on there and her hair got sucked up and everything was a mess. 00:41:53 Speaker 3: And has she ever been on a water ski That's. 00:41:55 Speaker 4: A great question. I doubt it. I feel like she needs to retire and like, go on. I love Robin so but god, that bag of salad is a real it's a real stumper, you know, because it's like a pretty shitty thing to get someone. So I don't want to insult anyone, right, but I feel like Robin's cool. I don't know Killer Mike personally or ideally. Oh you do, okay, uh okay. I'm going to give Killer Mike the calculator and Robin the bag of salad. 00:42:31 Speaker 3: And Killer Mike with the calculator. What's he calculating at this point? I mean I did just say, you know, I recommend the game Pimp and eighty See. I think it was like this thing that middle schoolers or high schoolers would calculate into their calculator somehow. It was like a hack and then suddenly you were playing a video game where you were like a pimp, and you're like, I never doing pimp business. 00:42:51 Speaker 4: Do you remember leisure Suit Larry? It was of course I had an older brother, so I know like a lot of old weird computer games, and he's like a computer programmer nerds, so he leisure Suit Larry sounds very similar to that, right. 00:43:05 Speaker 3: I remember like the advertisements for leisure Suit Larry, and it was just like always like kind of scantily clad women and then this dorky little. 00:43:14 Speaker 4: Man and what was for him to get lane? 00:43:17 Speaker 3: Yeah, he would go around, I guess you would solve puzzles for him to have sex. 00:43:21 Speaker 5: Is that what the game was? 00:43:22 Speaker 4: And my like thirteen year old Jewish nerdy brothers like playing that and we're all like laughing about it. That seems not We didn't have a lot of supervision, clearly. 00:43:35 Speaker 3: Yeah. My whole exposure to leisure Suit Larry was just the advertisements in video game magazines. I never got past that. It's good, but he was always a mystery to me. I was wondering, what does leisure suit Larry doing and what is his life? 00:43:47 Speaker 4: Creeping? 00:43:48 Speaker 3: Yeah, just creepy little man going around on like cruise ships with you know. That isn't the same category to me as the big Johnson T shirts. Do you remember those? The same person must be right, children were children wearing those? 00:44:06 Speaker 4: Wow? The eighties and nineties were so inappropriate and just like like all the jokes that I hear in movies that I loved that I now understand that I didn't understand. 00:44:16 Speaker 2: At the right. 00:44:17 Speaker 4: Just it's absurd, but I mean it made us pretty funny. 00:44:22 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we had our leisure suits, we had our big Johnson's right, So I. 00:44:28 Speaker 4: Think Killer Mike would appreciate that then. But the calculator, yeah, Robin. And the salad, I just hope there's some nice like toppings in there for or she can you know, sometimes you'll add your own twist to the salad. 00:44:41 Speaker 3: Right to spice it up. And I feel like she has a good attitude first of all, exactly, yeah, so I feel like she would be gracious and accept the salad. She's probably also a vegetarian, I would think. Yeah, I feel like Swedish people are healthy, right right, so I can see her like, you know, being just pointed but not showing you, yeah, you know, just accepting the gift and you and moving on with life. And she would probably eat it. 00:45:06 Speaker 2: Yeah. 00:45:07 Speaker 3: I feel like it's not above a bag salad, Absolutely not. 00:45:10 Speaker 5: Robin. 00:45:11 Speaker 3: Reach out to the podcast. 00:45:12 Speaker 4: Let us know if you're above bag salad, please, everyone needs to know. 00:45:17 Speaker 3: I do feel like she's eating like a beautiful, freshly chopped salad every day. 00:45:21 Speaker 4: But oh yeah, we went to Stockholm and the food was like glowing, it was so beautiful. What were you eating? 00:45:28 Speaker 3: I don't I can't like visualize a Swedish food outside of literally anything meatballs, meatballs. Yeah. 00:45:36 Speaker 4: We had like a breakfast in the hotel that was like gorgeous, like fluffy eggs. It was just like the beautiful version of everything and like the Dane, like the breakfast pastries were all like glowing and beautiful. And then we had some like room service dinner that was it shouldn't it was like I think it was like I don't know, oh God, some kind of chicken thing that shouldn't have been good but in a fucking room service situation, but would have been good in a like fancy restaurant, right decadent, amazing maybe. Oh, I think we actually got Swedish meatballs on the room service menu because you have to, it's fucking Sweden. And it was like it wasn't funny because we thought it would be funny, but it was so good. 00:46:22 Speaker 3: It was just delicious. I'm imagining like lifting that room service thing off of the tray and like a golden glow coming out right, just angelic. 00:46:32 Speaker 2: Oh, it was. 00:46:34 Speaker 3: Yeah. 00:46:35 Speaker 4: For the tour we went, we did my favorite murder show in fucking Sweet. 00:46:40 Speaker 3: Isn't that wild? 00:46:42 Speaker 4: So weird? 00:46:43 Speaker 3: Good for Sweden good for Sweden. My whole exposure to Swedish food is the salad bar at Ikea. Yeah, totally, but I don't. 00:46:52 Speaker 4: I couldn't tell you. 00:46:53 Speaker 3: I feel like there's a Swedish Swedish pizza restaurant in Glendale that I've driven past. I don't. I can't even begin to imagine what that what tales. I feel like there's probably some pickled fish or something involved that sounds gross. 00:47:11 Speaker 4: Oh well, I think that. I think you did it. 00:47:13 Speaker 3: As I said, I would tell you if you had really failed here, and you didn't. 00:47:18 Speaker 4: You nailed it. Thank you. 00:47:19 Speaker 3: I feel like, you know, it shows a certain mastery of being able to give gifts. 00:47:24 Speaker 4: I didn't realize you're so good at giving gifts. I didn't either, I'm actually I was. Yeah, I was surprised. I'm not that I'm terrible at it. I can't think of anything to give vents honestly, but you like, oh are you? 00:47:37 Speaker 3: Are you getting him things for the holidays? 00:47:39 Speaker 2: Yeah? 00:47:40 Speaker 4: We're always like, let's not do it, and then he gets me the most perfect, thoughtful thing. I think I'm pretty easy to shop for, and then I can't get I just get him my trinkets or like dinner somewhere, or I'll make bake cookies and stuff. 00:47:52 Speaker 3: Do you have your eye on anything this year that I want for him? 00:47:56 Speaker 2: Oh? 00:47:56 Speaker 4: Or for yourself? I haven't. I don't know what I was thinking. Stake of the month club. Oh that's a good idea because he likes to cook. I got him some like grilling fucking tools. I honestly, it's like it's this mad dash to like, but he's like, you know those love languages that everyone writes, the five languages. His is definitely like gifts and of service and like taking care of someone. 00:48:22 Speaker 3: Right, kind of the best one because you're pretty great for me, right, you can just do it? 00:48:28 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:48:28 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like an of the month club is a great gift idea, right, Yeah. I mean I think that we've made some huge leaps and bounds of the month clubs. It seems like they used to be kind of a cheesy, stupid thing, but like now you can get cool. My sister did one with like socks for me, and I was getting good looking socks, so you can ask for more. 00:48:49 Speaker 4: So smart. And then they also do now like baskets that you can get from like your the like nice restaurant or not, like grocery from your hometown. Oh, like I got one from New York City. There's like zay Bars. I gotta like, oh their basket and like you can get a pizza from Chicago, like delivered overnight. It's like that's the thing. I think. 00:49:11 Speaker 3: Yeah, my, I can remember my first trip to zay Bars. I was an intern at Letterman, so I had no money, but it was like walking through a cave of wonders. 00:49:19 Speaker 4: That place is beautiful. It is everything is gorgeous. 00:49:25 Speaker 3: Everything feels like it's like growing out of the walls. It's really an amazing I don't know what they're doing there. But then every cavernous. 00:49:31 Speaker 4: And like cozy right, feels like it's from the Middle Ages. 00:49:36 Speaker 3: And yeah, it's beautiful grocery store, but grocery stores aside. Let's answer some questions. Okay, this is called I said no questions people write into I said no gifts at gmail dot com. They these people are on their last nerve. They need help finding gifts for people in their lives. So let's try to quickly answer some of these because they're so desperate. Okay, this one first one, says deer Bridger, and valued guest. That's an interesting qualifier, You're valued. It's nice Christmas is coming up in my boyfriend's family has no regard to the rules of Secret Sannah. Last year, we all drew a name to buy a present for a spent with a spending limit of fifty dollars, and he has a large family. I was shocked to learn that when I receive my Secret Santa gift that I was also given numerous expensive gifts from his sister in laws. Oh, this is becoming clear to me. What's happening? This included a Michael Core's necklace at jumpsuit I'm matching Adida's loungewear of outfit. 00:50:28 Speaker 4: Who is this family? Wow? 00:50:30 Speaker 3: Am I expected to blatantly go against the whole purpose of Secret Sannah and purchase a gift for everyone? Or is it sufficient enough to buy gifts for their children? Yours, Susie. This sort of thing drives me crazy. 00:50:42 Speaker 4: High maintenance. That is stressful. 00:50:46 Speaker 3: Why are you having Secret Sannah? 00:50:48 Speaker 4: Yeah? 00:50:49 Speaker 3: If see, the whole point of Secret Sanna is buying, everyone has to buy one gift. 00:50:53 Speaker 4: Right. 00:50:54 Speaker 5: I've been through. 00:50:55 Speaker 3: I've been in work environments where the rules immediately go out by the wayside and sudden you're spending way more money than even on your family. 00:51:03 Speaker 4: I'm not comfortable with that in any way. I think that's fair. I don't think that's cool. I think to say, boyfriend or girlfriend, what was they are? 00:51:09 Speaker 3: She said, this is her boyfriend's family. 00:51:12 Speaker 4: Okay, well, so I think maybe they're doing it to make it easy on her, which is like a nice way to be, like, don't worry about it. However, we're going to get you a lot of stuff. Maybe. 00:51:23 Speaker 3: See this is where you've got to set the Secret Santa rules down as clearly as possible. Fifty dollars limit. We have that price point there she feels high. 00:51:31 Speaker 4: That feels so you can get a good gift. Yes, just leave it at that. 00:51:35 Speaker 3: Stop buying each other things, a little whole. 00:51:37 Speaker 4: Thing of Like she doesn't need to buy the kids anything either. Oh, we've got on her Boyfriendanda element we have Secret Sanda. I oh, the boyfriend to buy the children's stuff. I'm really bad at this, and I think what's a good It's like, I think my family has come to expect and understand that they're not going to probably get anything from me. Maybe like in a week after, because then I'll feel bad and just send them a bunch of shit because I'm like Fox. So what about Yeah, I don't know. 00:52:05 Speaker 3: I don't think in this situation. And maybe I'm the grinch. Maybe I'm just not good socially, but I stick to the Secret Santa rules. I'm not buying everyone a gift. You gave me the rule and I'm a rule follower. Too bad that you bought me a bunch of things. Yeah, that's run with you. You broke the rules. Yeah, it's you're not getting anything from me. 00:52:25 Speaker 4: I completely agree. 00:52:27 Speaker 3: By you know, Alane or whoever you get by her the gift and then let the treasures roll in. You don't have to feel guilty or anything soon. See, this is their problem. 00:52:37 Speaker 4: If she's going to get anyone anything, it should be the parents, like a nice little almost like a hostess trinket. 00:52:43 Speaker 3: You know, that's not a bad idea, but just like to be like a good Yeah, not in law, but that's sort of thing. Yeah, yeah, but otherwise everybody's on their own. I don't know what to say. 00:52:54 Speaker 4: I agree. 00:52:55 Speaker 3: Let's move on to now we're getting another qualifier, Hello Bridger, and I assume brilliant guest. So this person made a decent assumption. I don't need help finding a gift. 00:53:04 Speaker 5: How do I. 00:53:05 Speaker 3: Inform my boss that he should give his staff gifts for the holidays. I'm a house manager for a first term ambassador, and I believe this is also his first time having staff. YadA, YadA, yoda. So it looks like this is sincerely Kay. So her boss apparently doesn't give Christmas gifts, and she needs him to realize that he needs to give you know, all of these poor people working for him some sort of present. 00:53:33 Speaker 4: How do you just happened to Karen and I, Oh. 00:53:36 Speaker 3: You're kidding, No, it was me. I contacted you and said, by the way. 00:53:40 Speaker 4: Fucking gift? Well, actually I should ask you that too. So he So we have all these employees. We had no employees for years. It was like Stephen and then Danielle and we all fucking did it on our own so everyone would get a big Christmas bonus. And then now we suddenly have ten employees. And so we actually have a like a financial guy now who's really awesome named Bill, and he just said to us, let me know when you want to get on a call. So we can talk Christmas bonuses. Oh my, that was his thing. We were like shocker. We got on the call and he was like, here's how much you're supposed to give this person, Here's how much like new exactly so weird what they should expect. It was so great, Oh. 00:54:21 Speaker 3: To have somebody just give you that information. Yes, I had a situation years and years ago. I was working as a PA and somehow another PA found out that the boss was giving everyone a five dollars Starbucks gift card for Christmas, and I was furious. 00:54:41 Speaker 4: I was should be through this just given nothing. That's like more insulting than so insulting. 00:54:48 Speaker 3: I was furious, and so I started spreading the word and apparently it got back to him, and I mean nobody, I mean, this is the first public my fellow employees will not no, I mean now definitely not listening to this. But this boss ended up having to change his gift. And so I'm kind of you know, Elly, earlier you were for the worker. At the time, I was really the worker's champion, and I think I could. 00:55:15 Speaker 4: Just your footsteps. 00:55:16 Speaker 3: Yes, thank you, I'm a shining example. I think we got a ten dollars gift card. Which, okay, that's two coffees. It's at least not five five dollars to me, is essentially a coupon. 00:55:28 Speaker 4: It's not one coffee. It's like go spend. It's like when you have to shell out extra money on top of the gift card. 00:55:34 Speaker 3: Is like should never happened. It's truly a huge buck you Yeah, this k person? How does she tell that? This is the thing where it's like passive aggressive with the boss. Probably isn't going to work. I think casual, casual. 00:55:49 Speaker 4: So what are you getting everyone for Christmas? Oh that's great, I won't tell. I promise. 00:55:55 Speaker 3: You know. 00:55:56 Speaker 4: So cool is like a my last job, the boss got everyone at whatever the fuck you want, casual chill. It's exciting, it's not scary, it's not a bummer. 00:56:06 Speaker 3: See, this is the sort of healthy communication that I cannot. I don't even know where to begin with this sort of information because I either I'm either too subtle or I overshoot it and then I make things uncomfortable. But I'm just feeling casual, like that's so great, I won't tell anyone. Then the boss feels like they're in on a secret. And then and they are like Oh, the person just assumed I'm good. Yeah, yeah, and so now I can fix my problem. That's right, Kay, tell the ambassador, I believe it's an Okay, what is it? 00:56:38 Speaker 2: The fuck? 00:56:38 Speaker 4: Do you or are you work for the British Navy or something? 00:56:40 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm just going to read some more details really quickly. Here I oversee a chef, a gardener, and too cleaner. So apparently this ambassador or whoever, there's a lot of money going on here. 00:56:49 Speaker 4: We got a generational wealth person and his. 00:56:51 Speaker 3: Household, potentially Queen Elizabeth, and we already talked about the speA boat. Yes, this person is trying to Getqueen Elizabeth to give the British Navy a gift, and I'm going to it to the tableat leak it to the tableau, Queen elizabeths Chinsey do it. That's uh. I feel like we've given these people some excellent answers. 00:57:14 Speaker 4: I think we really knocked that one out of the park. 00:57:17 Speaker 3: The advice here will it will go from generation to generation like this person's wealth, and we've improved the world in a huge way. 00:57:27 Speaker 4: That's right. You're welcome, everyone, Georgia. 00:57:31 Speaker 3: I'm so thrilled about these gifts and the glitter that I'm going to be living with. 00:57:35 Speaker 4: See them on your face, right, I'm sorry. 00:57:37 Speaker 3: I'm so glad we clarified the glitter on my face because to think that you're sitting here looking at someone which is literally not running down their face for an entire part like me, like. 00:57:47 Speaker 4: Me, that's what that's what the zoom filter is for, is to like not. 00:57:52 Speaker 3: To remove bodily fluids from your face. 00:57:56 Speaker 4: Exactly. Thank you. That was so much fun. 00:57:59 Speaker 3: Oh, I can't wait use my shot glass. I've got this beautiful insulting National Parks graphic which I just adore. I mean, a disappointment to us, what a drag. I'm going to start yell previewing National parks of the idea to start yell previewing any sort of nature is beyond to me. But truly, it's so wonderful seeing you you too. Hopefully you know the next time we see each other will be at a crowded bar. I hope so both with our vaccine. 00:58:37 Speaker 4: Flying and cares no one, yes abound. Like glitter, glitter is. 00:58:44 Speaker 3: Kind of a COVID adjacent thing here. It's very viral, it spreads I don't know what to say. 00:58:51 Speaker 4: Wear a mask and don't get glittered. I guess yeah, that's a. 00:58:56 Speaker 3: Everybody. This is the end of the podcast. I hope even enjoyed yourself. I hope that you're having something resembling an enjoyable holiday season. And we'll talk again soon. Take care of yourself, goodbye. I said, No Gifts is an exactly right production. It's engineered by our dear friend Annalise Nelson and the theme song is by miracle worker Amy Mann. You must follow the show on Instagram at I said No Gifts. That's where you're going to see pictures of all these wonderful gifts I'm getting. Listen and subscribe on Apple Podcasts, Stitcher or wherever you found me, and why not leave a review while you're there. It's really the least you could do. And if you're interested in advertising on the show, go to midroll dot com slash ads. 00:59:42 Speaker 2: Hell I invite did you hear Funa man? 00:59:47 Speaker 1: Myself perfectly clear? But you're I guess tom, you gotta come to me empty and I said no guests. Your presences presents enough. I already had too much stuff, So 01:00:08 Speaker 2: How do you dare to surbey me?