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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on

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Speaker 1: iHeartRadio and welcome back to Coast to Coast George, and

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Speaker 1: are you with you? William Douglas with us? We'll call

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Speaker 1: him Bill, as the author of the Gospel of Science

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Speaker 1: and as the founder of World Healing Day, which is

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Speaker 1: a global educational event held every year and more than

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Speaker 1: bodies and many nations around the world. He was the

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Speaker 1: two thousand and nine inductee of the World Internal Arts

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame, which was in New York. And as

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Speaker 1: an award winning author of a number of books on

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Speaker 1: personal and global transformation, he has been a mind body

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Speaker 1: meditation source from media outlets worldwide. We're talking about his

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Speaker 1: new second edition of The Gospel of Science. Bill, welcome back.

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Speaker 1: How are you hope all as well? Yes, thank you, George.

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Speaker 1: I'm so honored to be on your program. It's a

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Speaker 1: real honor. Did COVID affected all your educational event or

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Speaker 1: is it still being held annually? Yes? Uh. In the

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Speaker 1: first year especially, a lot of events were held like

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Speaker 1: Zoom event online. But this year, uh, you know, a

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Speaker 1: so we expect this to be uh somewhat of a

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Speaker 1: return to normal. So everybody's pretty excited about it. Your

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Speaker 1: first edition of The Gospel of Science was a blockbuster,

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Speaker 1: and I expect your second edition to be the very same,

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Speaker 1: my friend. Yeah, the new second edition has got some

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Speaker 1: really mind blowing science and it's it's really quite different

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Speaker 1: than the first edition. So it's it's been it's been

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Speaker 1: a really exciting journey putting all this science together that

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Speaker 1: you know, just shows how powerful we are and also

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Speaker 1: a very hopeful vision of the future. Yeah, you're hopeful

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Speaker 1: for the future, aren't you. Yes, Yes, the you know,

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Speaker 1: the last couple of years, everything that we've all been

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Speaker 1: of possibility of the future. And you know, the popular

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Speaker 1: you know, popular culture media kind of feeds that is

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Speaker 1: kind of fear and antic driven. Your show is like

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Speaker 1: a shining oasis in a desert, you know, because you're

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Speaker 1: constantly expanding people's sense of possibility and and you know,

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Speaker 1: just the wonder of the universe. But you know, but

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Speaker 1: for the you know the uh you know, the larger

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Speaker 1: of operating on two realities. There's there's that reality, you know,

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Speaker 1: a whole other reality that's going on that all the

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Speaker 1: science shows that is just extremely hopeful, a really really

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Speaker 1: beautiful possibility for the future. Well, people are being bombarded

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Speaker 1: all the time with bad news, Bill, when it's just

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Speaker 1: a matter of time that they're going to crack something

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Speaker 1: like your book, The Gospel of Science is important to

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Speaker 1: help lift them up. Yeah. Yeah, And the new second

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Speaker 1: You'll walk away with a whole different perception of possibility

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Speaker 1: the most important thing for people to bring away from

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Speaker 1: after they read the book. Well, uh, the book focuses

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Speaker 1: by tapping into this people can make themselves feel less

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Speaker 1: And so what's exciting, what's so exciting today is that

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Speaker 1: mean by the Gospel of science. Yes, I chose the

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