1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcast 2 00:00:03,880 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: with iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:05,960 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 2: Hey everyone, welcome to the Almost Famous Podcast. It's Ashley 4 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 2: and it's Ben, and we are here. Episode two recap Ben. 5 00:00:17,520 --> 00:00:19,560 Speaker 3: Two, Episode two Recap. 6 00:00:19,280 --> 00:00:25,360 Speaker 2: Two, Episode two recap. That makes sense, so much sense. 7 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 2: Please don't ask me what my home's like right now. 8 00:00:30,520 --> 00:00:35,520 Speaker 2: I'm so scatterbraind It's unreal. It took me like three 9 00:00:35,600 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 2: hours to watch the hour and a half episode because 10 00:00:38,000 --> 00:00:41,959 Speaker 2: I'm an idiot who was like, yeah, i'll watch it. 11 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 2: I'll watch it when I'm with the kids tomorrow. You know, 12 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: I'll have five hours to watch the one and a 13 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,839 Speaker 2: half hour episode. And guess what, it took like three 14 00:00:52,960 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 2: hours to watch it when you're watching two kids because 15 00:00:55,800 --> 00:00:57,600 Speaker 2: I decided not to watch it last night because I 16 00:00:57,680 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: had to watch The Menanda's Brother Show till like one am. 17 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: I watched that too, you have it's kind of boring 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:07,720 Speaker 3: to me? What, Yeah, I didn't think it was that great. 19 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 2: Wait where are you at? 20 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:10,640 Speaker 3: I don't know, like episode five? 21 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: You're in episode five? 22 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:13,319 Speaker 3: You're bored. 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, you're gonna be deeply disturbed by episode five. 24 00:01:18,640 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 3: I've been disturbed already. I don't think I like well, yeah, 25 00:01:21,560 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 3: that's why I have to watch The Golden Bachelorette to 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 3: get me. I have a great video of Jessica watching 27 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 3: this week's episode and she just cries a lot. She 28 00:01:32,160 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 3: think she finds it so sweet. 29 00:01:35,160 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 2: Oh, it is so sweet. These poor men in these stories, 30 00:01:38,920 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 2: they're heartbreaking. 31 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 3: It's uh, this this season so far has I mean, 32 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 3: I think episode one is always a hard episode to 33 00:01:49,480 --> 00:01:52,280 Speaker 3: make entertaining. I think it is kind of one of 34 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 3: those filler episodes, like we talk about really. 35 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 2: Like filler episode. 36 00:01:56,520 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 3: But they did a tremendous job at bringing some character 37 00:02:00,800 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: development into play, which we'll talk about some incredible group dates. 38 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 3: I think the quote from my wife was they've had 39 00:02:07,560 --> 00:02:09,880 Speaker 3: some really cute group dates on this episode, and I 40 00:02:09,919 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: think they did. 41 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. I like the group dates because you know their 42 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:15,160 Speaker 2: personality dates there. 43 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 3: So great episode. Let's dive in. Let's start at the beginning. 44 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 3: We get a little teaser at the beginning that Mark 45 00:02:21,240 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 3: asks Joan in German to kiss him. This was unexpected, Ashley. 46 00:02:27,480 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 3: I felt like Mark was kind of going to be 47 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,519 Speaker 3: a slow roller here, kind of take his time. He 48 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:35,440 Speaker 3: would kind of emerge towards the middle of the season, 49 00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 3: but he's diving in week one. 50 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:40,400 Speaker 2: What are you talking about? You thought he was gonna 51 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:41,639 Speaker 2: be slow You mean thought he thought he was gonna 52 00:02:41,639 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: be slow to make moves? 53 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:44,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, like more quiet. 54 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,240 Speaker 2: I understand that, but like they want to make him 55 00:02:47,240 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 2: front and center because if they're not together, they want 56 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: him to be bachelor. So they're getting people on the 57 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: Mark drain super early. They're already on the drain, but 58 00:02:55,720 --> 00:02:57,959 Speaker 2: they want him to be like with the captain in 59 00:02:58,000 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 2: the front seat. 60 00:02:59,680 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 3: It's it's great that Mark is getting this treatment. And 61 00:03:02,720 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 3: then Matt James's mom got the treatment where like we 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 3: never saw her, I know, is that weird? 63 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's sad. Yeah, she got a liminade night one. 64 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: Poor thing. I was actually surprised by some of the 65 00:03:16,160 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: eliminations in this episode because they were faces that we knew, 66 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: do you know what I mean? Like usually an episode two, 67 00:03:22,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 2: you're still eliminating faces that we don't really know. But 68 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:27,520 Speaker 2: these guys were doing and they were sweet. But anyway, 69 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: we'll go, we'll get there eventually. First we'll start with 70 00:03:30,880 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 2: the group date actually with Mark the Marquis. Why did 71 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:36,120 Speaker 2: they have to have I don't think they had to 72 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:37,040 Speaker 2: tease the Marcus. 73 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:41,400 Speaker 3: I think it just brought us into the episode, okay, 74 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 3: because they like doing that now right, yeah, okay, all right, 75 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 3: Well then we get. 76 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 2: Into the episode Group Date. First Group day has Gary, Bob, Jonathan, 77 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 2: Charles l Mark, Jordan, Guy, and Keith and they are 78 00:03:56,240 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: going to prom. This was a cute group. This was 79 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: a cute date idea could. 80 00:04:04,440 --> 00:04:06,760 Speaker 3: Have been awkward. I think when it was announced, I 81 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 3: felt like, oh, this is going to be a really 82 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 3: awkward date for all of them. It's going to be 83 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 3: like kind of forced fun. But it wasn't. The guys 84 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:16,480 Speaker 3: made the most of it, and I think a lot 85 00:04:16,480 --> 00:04:18,279 Speaker 3: of it has to do with the personalities of the 86 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 3: people on date. I think these guys dove in and 87 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 3: they added this their uniqueness to this prom and then 88 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 3: also we got some personal stories based on prom. Some 89 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 3: people stood out to me during this date, maybe unexpectedly, 90 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:38,279 Speaker 3: was Charles l. That is a guy that just didn't 91 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 3: absolutely yeah he can really get you, can't he? 92 00:04:41,279 --> 00:04:45,120 Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, gracious, guys, now something bet By saying 93 00:04:45,160 --> 00:04:49,840 Speaker 2: goodness gracious, this guy is so freaking adorable, and like 94 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 2: they're not going to end up together and I'm so 95 00:04:53,240 --> 00:04:57,120 Speaker 2: sad about that, Like I'm sad that he's not going 96 00:04:57,200 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 2: to get as far as this man's soul deserves to get. 97 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:02,960 Speaker 2: All I want is this for this man to find 98 00:05:03,160 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 2: an amazing second love of his life if that's what 99 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:10,960 Speaker 2: he really wants. Oh, his wife was his first and 100 00:05:11,040 --> 00:05:16,760 Speaker 2: only girlfriend. He was her first and only boyfriend. And oh, 101 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 2: he's just a sweet, sweet man. 102 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 3: It would be awesome if we thought there's a chance 103 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:24,240 Speaker 3: that Charles L could be the next Bachelor, But as 104 00:05:24,279 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 3: you're saying, we kind of feel like Mark, if he's 105 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 3: not with Joan, has already kind of taken that role. 106 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:33,800 Speaker 3: But like the Charles L's of the world are the 107 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,480 Speaker 3: people that we just watch and we're like, you're just 108 00:05:37,040 --> 00:05:39,640 Speaker 3: it's just fun to see you. Like you're just a 109 00:05:39,720 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 3: pure spirit. You're a good human and you're sweet and 110 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: this is such a thing that you're out of your 111 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,760 Speaker 3: comfort zone on, but you've decided to do it. And 112 00:05:49,839 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 3: as a result, I have so much just respect for 113 00:05:52,960 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 3: the courage that you've shown. I want Charles L to 114 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:56,599 Speaker 3: be celebrated. 115 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:00,400 Speaker 2: He has such a sweetheart. Sitting watching him so on 116 00:06:00,480 --> 00:06:04,280 Speaker 2: the bleachers by himself goodness. But then he said it 117 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 2: was like the best time he's had in sixties when. 118 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:11,520 Speaker 3: He called his daughter and he said, I forget her name, 119 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 3: but he goes, this is your dad. I was like, oh, 120 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 3: he has to say. How sweet was that conversation? It's 121 00:06:18,160 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 3: just all of it was sweet with Charles l totally. 122 00:06:21,279 --> 00:06:26,640 Speaker 2: The other standout during this episode is of course Jonathan, 123 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 2: who gets the group date Rose and he shares this 124 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 2: story about he was wow, he was the only person 125 00:06:33,200 --> 00:06:38,280 Speaker 2: of color at his high school and he was always 126 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 2: like not super, not really popular, never felt like he 127 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 2: fit in. He never had like a girl's attention, and 128 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: like you look at him and you're like, how did 129 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:51,159 Speaker 2: you not have a girl's attention? We know that you 130 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:54,039 Speaker 2: were definitely a stud, but you know it was a 131 00:06:54,080 --> 00:06:56,600 Speaker 2: different time which and you know. 132 00:06:57,240 --> 00:07:00,200 Speaker 3: We saw his high school picture. He's definitely blossomed. He 133 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,839 Speaker 3: was like a skinny little high schooler. But now he's 134 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: just like he looks like he could be on the 135 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 3: regular Bachelorette. He's like that good looking now. 136 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, seriously, And his prom date been initially said yes 137 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:22,160 Speaker 2: and then in a classic like sitcom scenario, stands him 138 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 2: up pretty much says changes her mind, and then he 139 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 2: sat home during prom. It's really like a rom comm story. 140 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:36,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was good that he got the Rose. 141 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 3: I think there's a lot of guys there who gave 142 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 3: it their best effort who definitely could have gotten that 143 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:47,240 Speaker 3: date Rose, but Jonathan deserved it, and I do think 144 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:49,800 Speaker 3: I could see a future between the two of them. Oh, 145 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 3: do have good chemistry. Yeah. I even think if we're 146 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:54,840 Speaker 3: going to like fast forward a little bit and we 147 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:56,440 Speaker 3: look at the previews for the rest of the season, 148 00:07:56,480 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 3: it feels like Jonathan's around a while based on how 149 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:03,920 Speaker 3: much he's kind of in those previews, so makes sense 150 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 3: on why he got that group date Rose. This date, though, overall, 151 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,640 Speaker 3: showed these guys' personalities in the best of ways. We 152 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:21,600 Speaker 3: love Goldie. He is absolutely awesome, huge personality, really sweet. 153 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 3: The way Gary yeah but they call she calls him Goldie, right. 154 00:08:26,520 --> 00:08:29,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, just wanted to make sure. 155 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 3: That the yeah yeah, she calls him Goldie. The way 156 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:35,240 Speaker 3: he responded to the gift that she later gave him 157 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 3: from prom shows his like his side of gratefulness. I'm 158 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:46,480 Speaker 3: really enjoying Ashley. The chemistry amongst the men me too. 159 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 3: They're so fun, like they have to fix the sink 160 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 3: and stuff. Yeah, but like they're competitive like they all 161 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:53,959 Speaker 3: want time with Joan, they all like Joan, but yet 162 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:57,920 Speaker 3: they're all respectful of each other in the sense of 163 00:08:58,000 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: they let people be who they want to be, and 164 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 3: they kind of celebrate that. It's really fun to see 165 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:08,920 Speaker 3: the dynamics at play kind of in the house. I've 166 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 3: loved just watching that side of this as well. A 167 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,319 Speaker 3: bunch of sixty year old men hanging out inside of 168 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:15,319 Speaker 3: a bachelor mansion, which brings me to the next point. 169 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 3: When you're sixty years old, obviously you have health stuff, 170 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:20,000 Speaker 3: and we talk about that during this episode, but you 171 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,840 Speaker 3: also snore. And there's a big segment where we see 172 00:09:22,840 --> 00:09:25,000 Speaker 3: all the guys napping because nobody can get sleep because 173 00:09:25,040 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: Greg is snoring throughout the night. I think this is awesome. 174 00:09:29,200 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 3: When was the last time that these men shared a 175 00:09:31,600 --> 00:09:34,680 Speaker 3: room with this many other men and now they're having 176 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 3: to sleep beside each other. I think it's hilarious. 177 00:09:37,280 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, as the Navy captain said, it's been like twenty years. 178 00:09:40,480 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's so good, so. 179 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:46,400 Speaker 2: Funny, and I yeah, I love the guy camaraderiates. And 180 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 2: then there is Pascal and he was needing his own 181 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 2: closet because he and he was trying to pay the 182 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 2: guys one hundred dollars to do a load of laundry. 183 00:09:56,720 --> 00:09:59,440 Speaker 2: This guy's so bougie. It's like, is he just like 184 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: he seems? It's like you're token hired actor who's not 185 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:05,400 Speaker 2: a hired actor, but he's like that one from the season. 186 00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 3: Well, he admits it, right, he admits that he is 187 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: like high maintenance. He says, I am high maintenance. I 188 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,400 Speaker 3: want to know though, if pascal Is doesn't do his 189 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 3: own laundry because he's so wealthy that he doesn't need 190 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:23,679 Speaker 3: to think. So Okay, yeah, I want to know history, 191 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:24,679 Speaker 3: then I want to know more about it. 192 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,320 Speaker 2: I think this guy like owns a really well to 193 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:29,000 Speaker 2: do salon. 194 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: Good for him. Yeah, what a deal. There's there's so 195 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,520 Speaker 3: many like fun backstories that will never get based on 196 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 3: career pass and kind of what they do for a 197 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 3: living in this house. One of the guys that stands 198 00:10:42,400 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 3: out is obviously the one that gets the one on 199 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 3: one chalk Chalk goes to the happiest place on Earth. 200 00:10:47,720 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 3: Immediately we shouted Disneyland, no questions asked, and I'm so 201 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 3: glad they went there. 202 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:06,520 Speaker 2: It was a cute date, fun date. She just wanted 203 00:11:06,600 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 2: him to prove that he was fun. The first half 204 00:11:10,480 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 2: of the day was like a little bit boring to me. 205 00:11:12,880 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 2: I was like, all right, here they go like they're 206 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,360 Speaker 2: riding the rides and having a good time. It didn't 207 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:19,080 Speaker 2: really prove anything to me. But they're during the one 208 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:22,520 Speaker 2: on one again like it's just like another horribly sad story. 209 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:27,680 Speaker 2: He got married, his marriage last for twelve years, the 210 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 2: mother of his children, and then like that just dissipated. 211 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:33,080 Speaker 2: And then he met Kathy who he's with her nine 212 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,160 Speaker 2: years until she got an awful form of what I 213 00:11:38,200 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 2: think is brain cancer and she passed away five months 214 00:11:41,160 --> 00:11:48,480 Speaker 2: after her diagnosis, and just so sad. She died in 215 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:53,960 Speaker 2: his arms, and they just bonded over, you know, losing 216 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 2: the loves of their lives, and it happened, happening so quickly. 217 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,720 Speaker 3: Jock sounds like Peyton Manning when he talks. That's what 218 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 3: I originally thought about chockad. 219 00:12:05,520 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 2: That was in my notes to talk about today. 220 00:12:08,840 --> 00:12:10,959 Speaker 3: Oh he does. He sounds just like bread Man. 221 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: Exactly like it. But it's funny, You're like a Peyton's 222 00:12:13,720 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 2: voice coming out of another face is so different because 223 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,440 Speaker 2: like Peyton's like goofy face goes along with his like 224 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,600 Speaker 2: kind of goofy voice. Yeah, and with Chock it's just different. 225 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:31,360 Speaker 3: Chalk is really I think somebody that I could see 226 00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:35,559 Speaker 3: Joan ending up with. He seems carrying and stable. Obviously 227 00:12:35,600 --> 00:12:38,439 Speaker 3: he can relate on a lot of the stories that 228 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 3: Joan has. They enjoy some similar hobbies like fishing that 229 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 3: comes out during this date. It feels like Chalk is 230 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 3: one of those guys that you watch on screen right 231 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:51,760 Speaker 3: now and you're like, he's either gonna end up with 232 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 3: Joan or it's gonna be one of those breakups that 233 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,800 Speaker 3: like we don't see coming, because I do think their 234 00:12:57,840 --> 00:13:02,600 Speaker 3: connection is strong. Like four, I think he's easily top four. 235 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,720 Speaker 3: In fact, I think the top four got revealed to 236 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 3: me during this episode, which I'll tell you about at 237 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:07,720 Speaker 3: the very end. 238 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:11,040 Speaker 2: But the next one. Okay, So the second group day 239 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:15,520 Speaker 2: is the Talent Show date, and this was fun. Talent 240 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 2: Show is way more fun when it's with the Golden 241 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:21,800 Speaker 2: With the Golden peeps, I agree, this is like so 242 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,480 Speaker 2: much better and there's never it's like a lot less 243 00:13:25,520 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 2: awkward and a lot less competitive. They're just joking around. 244 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 2: What are some of the standout performances for you outside 245 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,600 Speaker 2: of Dan, who of course did the the ribbon dancing 246 00:13:38,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: to kind of mask his tremors. 247 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, sure, I think it's it was amazing, uh to see. 248 00:13:47,240 --> 00:13:48,839 Speaker 3: I don't know who did it. I think it's Charles 249 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 3: k punched through the board and just sock Greg in 250 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 3: the stomach. I mean, if you watch, when you watch 251 00:13:54,559 --> 00:13:58,120 Speaker 3: on a replay, like he really did absolutely pound Greg 252 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 3: in the stomach. It was a to see that. Also, 253 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 3: I just appreciated the guys confidence I would be one 254 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,080 Speaker 3: of the guys and I had a talent show on 255 00:14:09,360 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 3: it was Caitlin's season, or maybe even was my Bachelor 256 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 3: season one of these. 257 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 2: I think it was your Bachelor season. 258 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 3: And I don't have like a distinct talent to show 259 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 3: off on a stage. I don't, and that's okay. I 260 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 3: was kind of anxious about it back then. I think 261 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,400 Speaker 3: we talked about it, but I just don't have one 262 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:30,400 Speaker 3: that could be done in front of people and impress them. 263 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 3: And so, you know, I remember at the time when 264 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: that was told to us that we were doing a 265 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 3: tele show, I was like, well, I just got to 266 00:14:35,720 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 3: go out there and do my best and be confident. 267 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 3: These guys, even though a lot of them didn't have 268 00:14:40,120 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 3: a talent that stood out necessarily, they just showed confidence. 269 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 3: They either sung, they did a poem, they did the 270 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 3: yo yo. I could have done a yoyo. I thought 271 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 3: everybody could do a yoyo, But maybe a yoyo is 272 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: that impressive. I like the juggler who couldn't even juggle. 273 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 3: He got through one, like one round and then it 274 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 3: fell and everybody's like, yeah, like that's what it's all about, 275 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 3: get up there on stage and do. 276 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:05,520 Speaker 2: Something so true. But ben they're also able to get 277 00:15:05,520 --> 00:15:08,080 Speaker 2: away with it because of their age. Because if a 278 00:15:08,280 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 2: twenty if a twenty eight year old guy got up 279 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 2: and he was trying to juggle and he didn't do 280 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: it well or like chose that as is his talent, 281 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: I feel like people would be like just less see 282 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:21,640 Speaker 2: less humor in it. They'd be like, oh, he was 283 00:15:21,680 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 2: being lazy, he didn't come with something else. 284 00:15:23,640 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 3: Perhaps maybe I think it's just how you present it, 285 00:15:26,640 --> 00:15:28,720 Speaker 3: and these guys know how to present it. I mean, 286 00:15:28,760 --> 00:15:30,360 Speaker 3: this is a big deal to him. It's their first 287 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,200 Speaker 3: group date, there's a live audience. They're obviously still nervous. 288 00:15:34,240 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 3: No matter how old you get, you still have nerves. 289 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 3: And they just say you know what, We're gonna make 290 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 3: the most of it, and I think that's actually incredible. 291 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 2: Well, Dan says I'm not nervous actually when he gets up, 292 00:15:44,640 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: but he says, my hands are shaking, and that's because 293 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,520 Speaker 2: I have a tremor. And you could tell that Joan 294 00:15:50,720 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: was nervous when she saw his hand shaking, like she 295 00:15:53,880 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 2: felt so bad. She either thought that he had a 296 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,120 Speaker 2: disability that you know that makes your hands tremor, or 297 00:16:02,440 --> 00:16:05,120 Speaker 2: that he was that nervous. Either way, she was concerned 298 00:16:05,160 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 2: for him. But he had a really good sense of 299 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,480 Speaker 2: humor about it, sure, and that you know, made him 300 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 2: shine so much so that he gets the nighttime date. 301 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:16,080 Speaker 2: And then we have another sad story. 302 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 3: We do, and I mean it's kind of going to 303 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,120 Speaker 3: be I think a theme as the Golden Like franchise 304 00:16:21,200 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 3: continues is each season we're going to have these moments 305 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 3: of a lot of joy and laughter and brilliance along 306 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 3: with kind of this balancing act of real stories that 307 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: affect real humans. That's probably why I enjoy it so much, 308 00:16:37,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 3: is because it feels like we're getting real stories from 309 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 3: real humans who have you know, shown some courage in 310 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: getting out there and going on national television. Even if 311 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: it's just to go home in week one, They've done it, 312 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,480 Speaker 3: and I think that's a big deal. Dan obviously has 313 00:16:52,360 --> 00:16:56,680 Speaker 3: a story. Also, it's not unexpected, you know, from from 314 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,800 Speaker 3: these men. They're obviously there for a reason. But I 315 00:17:00,160 --> 00:17:05,000 Speaker 3: Dan stands out because Dan has this way of communicating Ashley, 316 00:17:05,920 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 3: and it feels it feels like he would sit in 317 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 3: a like a kind of like an executive position at 318 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 3: his work because he talks. He talks like with this 319 00:17:15,440 --> 00:17:18,640 Speaker 3: kind of quiet confidence and he kind of is listening 320 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 3: and curious, which oftentimes I think the best executives do right. 321 00:17:23,119 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 3: They ask a lot of questions. They don't jump to assumptions. 322 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,639 Speaker 3: They don't, you know, tell you what you should be 323 00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 3: feeling or thinking. And then when I sat there and 324 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 3: listened to Joan and Dan talk, I was like, this 325 00:17:33,440 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 3: guy knows how to talk like, he just knows how 326 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 3: to communicate. 327 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 2: He's like you, He's you a golden form. 328 00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: He has better hair than me, much more so. 329 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 2: Than Gary was. Because I know that you got like 330 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 2: compared to Gary is because like he held the role 331 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:51,359 Speaker 2: of golden bachelorette similarly to the way that you held 332 00:17:51,400 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 2: the role as bachelor. 333 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I think Dan is gonna Dan is 334 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:58,240 Speaker 3: another one kind of like Chalk, where I put Dan 335 00:17:58,320 --> 00:17:59,920 Speaker 3: and Chalk about side by side. 336 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: Of Both of these guys are people that really stood 337 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 2: out to us last week. I agree, because of their communication. 338 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, they just they talk kind of like Mark does, 339 00:18:09,359 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: with this quiet confidence, and I think that's something to notice. 340 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:14,800 Speaker 3: Maybe that's just the thing that you develop as you 341 00:18:14,800 --> 00:18:17,679 Speaker 3: get older. You've had enough, you know, interaction with people 342 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,720 Speaker 3: that you kind of understand how people operate, and you 343 00:18:20,800 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 3: kind of understand how that what people need in communication, 344 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 3: and so you start to learn how to do it well. 345 00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:31,879 Speaker 3: But all three of those guys, also Goldie, those four 346 00:18:32,040 --> 00:18:36,240 Speaker 3: guys to me really kind of communicate with this quiet 347 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 3: confidence that stands out amongst the rest. 348 00:18:40,600 --> 00:18:43,879 Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, those are some good names. That's a 349 00:18:43,880 --> 00:18:56,679 Speaker 2: good top four or five that you just mentioned. So 350 00:18:56,800 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 2: Dan gets the rose, leads us to the party, which 351 00:19:01,000 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 2: this week is gonna be a barbecue at the mansion, 352 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 2: a lot less dramatic than the barbecues that happened on 353 00:19:05,840 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 2: the main show. Again, I always feel like the barbecue 354 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,239 Speaker 2: or the pool party is always the most dramatic of 355 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,679 Speaker 2: the cocktail parties, and this is really not. Things that 356 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:20,160 Speaker 2: stand out again is Goldie, He's gonna get his picture here. 357 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 2: And then Mark's kiss, which, by the way, and I'm 358 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 2: not doing this. I'm not saying this because of me 359 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:31,720 Speaker 2: being a Mark stand but because her other kisses with 360 00:19:31,800 --> 00:19:36,120 Speaker 2: the other guys are like very casual sometimes like she'll 361 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: just do it in front of the other men and 362 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 2: it's just like a you know, like close mouth all that. 363 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:47,040 Speaker 2: With her kiss with Mark, it was a liplock that 364 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 2: was like a kiss that was like a romantic kiss, 365 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 2: you know it. Don't look at me like that. 366 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I think she's had some good kisses. She 367 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,760 Speaker 3: did kiss a couple guys this episode. I do think 368 00:19:57,040 --> 00:20:03,359 Speaker 3: that's something to know. I I have really enjoyed seeing 369 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 3: Joan carry the role as a Golden bachelorette because I 370 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:09,280 Speaker 3: do think not only I mean Jess can I said 371 00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 3: it last night like the ladies gorgeous, but she also 372 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:19,200 Speaker 3: navigates this process so far very well, and she is 373 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 3: allowing the relationship to open up to a certain physical level, 374 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 3: which is you know, to show you know, romance through kissing. 375 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:30,600 Speaker 3: I think all these kisses meant something. I do think 376 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: Marks would see. 377 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:36,320 Speaker 2: Romantic to you Okay, fine, then. 378 00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:37,680 Speaker 3: To you. 379 00:20:40,119 --> 00:20:43,240 Speaker 2: Joan, now call her up and ask her. 380 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,719 Speaker 3: I do might disagree with you a little bit. I 381 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:48,879 Speaker 3: think this show is going to be lacking in drama, 382 00:20:48,880 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 3: which is fine with me, which is actually something I prefer. 383 00:20:52,520 --> 00:20:56,120 Speaker 3: And one of one of the things that I think 384 00:20:56,119 --> 00:21:00,679 Speaker 3: they tried to do was make this cookout with the 385 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 3: whole burger situation and how all these They have too 386 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,800 Speaker 3: many leaders in this group, too many people who have 387 00:21:07,320 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 3: grilled for their families for too many years and cook 388 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,440 Speaker 3: for themselves for too many years. They have too many 389 00:21:11,440 --> 00:21:15,360 Speaker 3: people who are leaders in their own worlds. And they 390 00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 3: come into this house and now they have to share 391 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:19,720 Speaker 3: this space, and you have to see them start to 392 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 3: navigate maybe having their like what they've implemented as what 393 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,680 Speaker 3: they want in life not happen. And I think that's 394 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:29,520 Speaker 3: gonna be a really fun thing. It's not going to 395 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 3: cause drama amongst the others. I think it's going to 396 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:36,359 Speaker 3: cause internal drama within themselves to go. I like it 397 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,239 Speaker 3: this way. I like to sleep in a room with 398 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 3: a night machine. I like to sleep naked. I like 399 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:43,000 Speaker 3: the air to be sixty six degrees. I like my 400 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 3: burgers medium. Well, I don't want barbecue sauce on them. 401 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: All these things that they've created to be the right 402 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: and wrong way of doing life. Now you're gonna have 403 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: to see them start to separate from that, and I 404 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,200 Speaker 3: think that's gonna be fun to watch. 405 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 2: Is there something that's like very like a sociologist would 406 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,000 Speaker 2: comment on them that the women like women like women 407 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 2: on The Golden Bachelor. They're more communal, you know, when 408 00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 2: one has a baby. It's like the village, you know, 409 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 2: back in the tribal days, and whereas like men could 410 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:17,640 Speaker 2: go out and hunter, gather more by themselves, and like, yeah, 411 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 2: so when women are put together in that group at 412 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 2: this age especially, it just seems very comfortable, whereas men 413 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 2: are like, we've done this solo for quite some time. 414 00:22:27,000 --> 00:22:28,359 Speaker 2: We've been the heads of the house. 415 00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 3: I also wonder, I wonder, I don't know, I wonder 416 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 3: if you know, the women are so used to nurturing 417 00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: and caring for that you know, they also like to 418 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 3: be nurtured and cared for, and so this is a 419 00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:43,480 Speaker 3: moment where you know, like last season, Susan can cook 420 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:45,720 Speaker 3: for everybody and everybody can just sit and laugh and 421 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 3: like drink wine and enjoy it and Susan's carrying the role, 422 00:22:48,880 --> 00:22:51,320 Speaker 3: and everybody's happy to have her carry that role because 423 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,680 Speaker 3: they want to be like, you know, they've cared for 424 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 3: everybody else their whole life, but it's nice to be 425 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 3: cared for yourself. Where these men kind of have this 426 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,200 Speaker 3: like no, I know how to do it my way 427 00:23:01,280 --> 00:23:04,040 Speaker 3: kind of like mentality, and they've done it their way 428 00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 3: when they want to do it their way, and now 429 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,840 Speaker 3: they're getting that ripped away from them, especially when it 430 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,240 Speaker 3: comes around to grill. I think a grill is a 431 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,280 Speaker 3: really good place for men to start to have disagreements 432 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 3: because typically the men have very strong opinions on how 433 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:23,120 Speaker 3: to grill the right ray, right way, or the wrong way. 434 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 2: That's so funny, Yeah, you might be right totally. Any 435 00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 2: other standout moments from the barbecue, it's like. 436 00:23:30,520 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 3: Jack, I'm sad Jack's gone. He's obviously leaving us. 437 00:23:33,440 --> 00:23:33,680 Speaker 1: Jack. 438 00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 3: I thought he was a good energy and a really 439 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 3: positive spirit in the house. I thought he had a 440 00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:39,000 Speaker 3: lot of fun at the house. I thought he was 441 00:23:39,000 --> 00:23:42,440 Speaker 3: soaking it every moment at the house. There's no other 442 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,399 Speaker 3: big standout moments of the barbecue for me, other than 443 00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 3: the fact that there is obviously a uniform this season. 444 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:53,959 Speaker 3: The uniform is khakis with a tuckting golf shirt and 445 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:57,639 Speaker 3: brand new tennis shoes of whatever kind that is showing 446 00:23:57,720 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 3: up at every scene of every episode. I think that's great. 447 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:01,879 Speaker 2: That is so funny. 448 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 3: The only thing I wanted to bring up to you 449 00:24:03,520 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 3: astulely that I wanted to get your thoughts on. I 450 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 3: don't even know his name, but The Bachelor had said 451 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,879 Speaker 3: that they're going to cut Bill Gil out of this series. 452 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was more actually in the episode. 453 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:18,399 Speaker 3: A lot more than some. 454 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, are we getting is our advanced copy 455 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: not edited or something? Because I thought that he had. 456 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 3: A role, you know, Okay, are we getting bamboozled? Here 457 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:31,439 Speaker 3: is my question? Now here's what could have happened in 458 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:35,400 Speaker 3: my mind. Yeah, is this show was already edited and 459 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 3: put to press before this came out, like last week 460 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:44,120 Speaker 3: they didn't have so like maybe in future episodes we'll 461 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:45,919 Speaker 3: see that. But I was surprised to see him have 462 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 3: this one on one moment with Joanes shown, But I 463 00:24:50,840 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: do I would imagine that this episode was already out 464 00:24:53,560 --> 00:24:57,200 Speaker 3: there before this all came to light. 465 00:24:57,640 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 2: Yeah. Thanks, Yeah, so you guys, if you aren't aware, 466 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 2: Gil was actually served a restraining order. Between the time 467 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 2: of him getting his background checked during casting weekend to 468 00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:14,399 Speaker 2: the start of the show actually filming, he was really 469 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 2: communicating a ton with this woman and it was getting 470 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:25,399 Speaker 2: obsessive and yeah, so she got this on him. And 471 00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 2: then he went on the show, and we know that 472 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 2: they wanted to cut down some of his episodes. They 473 00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 2: said that he doesn't really play a huge role. He 474 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:39,439 Speaker 2: did get this conversation where he told Joan about how 475 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 2: his wife passed away in twenty nineteen, and that was obviously, 476 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,159 Speaker 2: it was so sad and I was like feeling for 477 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 2: the guy. And then they showed his name underneath after 478 00:25:49,520 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 2: the conversation. I was like, that's Gil. And then you 479 00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,920 Speaker 2: just think, how was this man like with his wife 480 00:25:58,400 --> 00:26:01,919 Speaker 2: and then a couple years later stalking another woman. Is 481 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:06,719 Speaker 2: this like a behavior that is just out of grief 482 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,399 Speaker 2: or am I giving him too much credit? Or is 483 00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 2: this just something to think about. 484 00:26:10,920 --> 00:26:13,040 Speaker 3: I was just shocked to see him. I think we'd 485 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:14,840 Speaker 3: see him at all, but yeah we did. He was 486 00:26:14,840 --> 00:26:17,360 Speaker 3: there more than the others. Yeah, that was a moment 487 00:26:17,359 --> 00:26:19,760 Speaker 3: that stood out to me. Now we'll talk about the 488 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 3: guys going home before we talk about who we think 489 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,400 Speaker 3: will be in the final four. After our two weeks 490 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 3: of knowing these guys, Michael, Jack, Christopher, and Bob are 491 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 3: sent home. I think there are some surprises here, maybe 492 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:36,600 Speaker 3: even with all of them. We didn't get to see 493 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 3: a lot of Bob. I liked Bob. I thought Bob 494 00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 3: was like a really sweet man, but we just need 495 00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 3: to see a lot of him. But we did get 496 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: to know Michael, Jack and Christopher quite a bit. Maybe 497 00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,919 Speaker 3: that's just the element of the show is we'll get 498 00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:51,399 Speaker 3: to know the characters a little better than we do 499 00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: on the other You know, during the Bachelor and Bachelorette, 500 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 3: I would like to call him surprises, but I don't 501 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: know who else you would have sent home. 502 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 2: There was a couple in there. I don't feel that 503 00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:06,199 Speaker 2: she has a lot of chemistry with guy. He was 504 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 2: towards the end of the rose ceremony. 505 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 3: See, I think she has a lot of chemistry with guy. 506 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:15,440 Speaker 2: You do. Oh yeah, I'm just so off here. Okay, Well, 507 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 2: I thought that Christopher leaving was a shock out of 508 00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 2: this bunch. I thought Bob leaving was also a little shocked, 509 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:25,280 Speaker 2: just because, like we knew their faces and they had 510 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 2: really sweet demeanors. Michael I was like, whatever on Jack. 511 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 2: I think we're sad just as viewers to lose Jack. 512 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:37,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, they didn't have anything. My sister was like, 513 00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 2: Jack is the kind of guy that I wish they 514 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 2: had a golden paradise for. 515 00:27:41,960 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 3: Oh gosh, how much would he love? How much would 516 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:48,439 Speaker 3: he love the Golden paradise? Yeah, he would absolutely thrive. 517 00:27:48,800 --> 00:27:52,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, he was created for it, so was you know 518 00:27:53,080 --> 00:27:56,719 Speaker 2: Kathy getting from her season. There's a couple. 519 00:27:56,920 --> 00:28:00,240 Speaker 3: Think about those two together dating goodness great. 520 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 2: We might actually need a Golden paradise, except for it 521 00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:07,760 Speaker 2: would need to be like, not in a tropical location. 522 00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 2: It would need to be in the mountains or something. 523 00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 2: It would need to have winter winter games vibes. 524 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 3: Yeah, or like Florida where they all live. Already Florida 525 00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,400 Speaker 3: would be hilarious too, just like a nice little cond. 526 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:22,920 Speaker 2: Have a compound of condos. 527 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 3: I would love to see Jack and Cathy. I'm gonna 528 00:28:25,440 --> 00:28:29,800 Speaker 3: ship that Jack and Kathy together. Can you imagine the conversations? 529 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 2: It would be unreal? Well, first off, they would be 530 00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 2: really just talking out loud to themselves, but be sitting 531 00:28:38,400 --> 00:28:41,920 Speaker 2: next to each other. Hannah Hannah, our producer, goes you 532 00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 2: don't want to see grannies and bikinis. I would be 533 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: down for that. 534 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 3: Who said, so, don't put words in my mouth. 535 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 2: You want to see grandma's and bikinis? 536 00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:52,680 Speaker 3: Ben, I don't know if it's something I want, but 537 00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:53,760 Speaker 3: I'm down to watch it. 538 00:28:53,800 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 2: I'm down to watch it too. But I'm sure that 539 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: they would love to be in sweaters. Yeah, and it 540 00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 2: would be cool to have like a whole different five and. 541 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:04,160 Speaker 3: We can bring back the one piece like it's fine. Yeah, yeah, 542 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:07,280 Speaker 3: I mean it has to be for any but anybody 543 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 3: that I know over seventy sixty five seventy For them 544 00:29:11,400 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 3: to be a bathing suit, it has to be ninety degrees. 545 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:14,840 Speaker 3: So as long as we keep it seventy five, they're 546 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 3: still wearing long sleeves. 547 00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:18,320 Speaker 2: Do you know that my mom who you know, like 548 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 2: my mom is like the really hottest sixty six year 549 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 2: old woman you can. Can you believe my mom's sixty six? 550 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 2: It's like insane. I treat her like she's also forty six. 551 00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,800 Speaker 2: You know, I'm with thinking, like why are you tired? 552 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:32,080 Speaker 2: You know, after a day with the kids, Like you're 553 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 2: forty six, and it's like, oh crap, you're sixty six. 554 00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 2: My mom has a Warner bathing suit in like ten 555 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 2: to fifteen years. She's so ridiculous. 556 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 3: Is that a personal choice? 557 00:29:41,680 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 2: Yes? 558 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:43,080 Speaker 3: Oh? Is that going? 559 00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,800 Speaker 2: We have a pool in the backyard. She like hasn't 560 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,840 Speaker 2: gotten into it for twenty years. Oh that's unfortnately very 561 00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:48,920 Speaker 2: conservative lady. 562 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 3: All right, So who's your top four, Ashley? I want 563 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,000 Speaker 3: to hear it. 564 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't think we have much of a different top four, 565 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 2: so this might be a little bit boring. It's Mark, 566 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:08,400 Speaker 2: It's Jonathan Shock and and and Dan, so guys that 567 00:30:08,440 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 2: were very much highlighted during this this episode. 568 00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:16,720 Speaker 3: I'm gonna go Mark, Chalk Guy and Dan. 569 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,440 Speaker 2: I am not I do not know what I'm missing 570 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,800 Speaker 2: from the guy thing, but I'm obviously missing it. 571 00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:23,760 Speaker 3: I think you're missing it. 572 00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,080 Speaker 2: What if he wasn't a doctor? Would you put him 573 00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 2: in there? 574 00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:29,000 Speaker 3: I don't even I didn't even know he was a doctor. Okay, 575 00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 3: so yeah, I think they just have something. Okay, just wait, 576 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,720 Speaker 3: just wait. This has been another amazing episode. Don't need 577 00:30:36,800 --> 00:30:39,160 Speaker 3: to say a lot about Joan. She's thriving in this role. 578 00:30:39,200 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 3: She was made for this role. It feels like Joan. 579 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 3: I will say that Joan has blossomed. I don't know 580 00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:48,160 Speaker 3: if this will be a critique, this will be taking 581 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,720 Speaker 3: the wrong way. I know Joan listens to this. Joan 582 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: is more attractive now than she was in high. 583 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 2: School, oh, one hundred thousand percent. And I was thinking 584 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,440 Speaker 2: about that last episode when they were showing old pictures 585 00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:05,200 Speaker 2: of her and her husband together. I'm like, why is 586 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:06,960 Speaker 2: this woman getting hotter with age? 587 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:11,040 Speaker 3: Like, yeah, way, what's happening? What's happening here? I will 588 00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:15,280 Speaker 3: say that, but Jones thriving. She does, navigates the conversations well, 589 00:31:15,400 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 3: she brings out the best in these guys. The stories 590 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 3: are being told, the questions are being asked, the romance 591 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:22,920 Speaker 3: is there and exist, and I think all of these 592 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 3: guys are just absolutely smitten with her. Their heads turn 593 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: every time she walks around. They get giddy every time 594 00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 3: she walks into a room. I absolutely think Joan is 595 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: the perfect choice for the Golden Bachelor. 596 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:40,000 Speaker 2: But it really was. Yeah, you could not get better 597 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,720 Speaker 2: at the role. 598 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 3: No, she's great for it. 599 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,840 Speaker 2: Unless it would be like an actual Hollywood actress, you 600 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 2: know what I mean? They found her. I think she's 601 00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 2: even better Chevy Chase Maryland, and she's just perfection. 602 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, good people come from Maryland. Hey, until next week 603 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 3: when we break down another episode of the Golden Bachelorette, 604 00:31:59,160 --> 00:32:01,240 Speaker 3: make sure you continue to follow us because we have 605 00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 3: a lot of content coming your way. We have headlines, 606 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,440 Speaker 3: we have a special episode with question and answers for 607 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 3: Ashley and myself. Will continue to do breaking news as 608 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: it comes out. And then also obviously we're breaking down 609 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,160 Speaker 3: every episode of the Golden Bachelorette. But a big announcement 610 00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,880 Speaker 3: is we have Joey and Jenna from Dancing with the Stars. 611 00:32:18,960 --> 00:32:22,560 Speaker 3: Joey obviously our last bachelor. We have them on this 612 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:25,960 Speaker 3: week as well. So much coming your way, so much 613 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 3: to do, so much we're excited about. 614 00:32:28,280 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 2: And Noah and Abigail for their pre wedding interview, and 615 00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: we talk good, juicy stuff with Noah about his brother 616 00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: Aaron and his stint on the Bachelorette. 617 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:40,920 Speaker 3: How in the world do we have so much time 618 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 3: to talk to so many people? Well, until next time, 619 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 3: I've been Ben, I've. 620 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: Been Ashley SIA. 621 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:49,120 Speaker 1: Follow the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous podcasts on 622 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio or subscribe wherever you listen to podcasts.