1 00:00:05,280 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stephone 2 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 1: Never told your production of iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:18,760 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: And we're back with another round of Feminists around the World. 4 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 2: And I'm sure many of you are actually more eagerly 5 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,600 Speaker 2: waiting for the next installment of fictional women slash characters 6 00:00:30,640 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 2: around the World and all that goodness, especially with Annie 7 00:00:33,600 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 2: bringing it during the spooky season. I know it's gonna 8 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: be good. But we're back to the regular schedule program. 9 00:00:39,280 --> 00:00:43,839 Speaker 2: I am a little healthier. I'm still coughing, which is disconcerting, 10 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 2: but no worries, you know. And he's gotten many a 11 00:00:47,159 --> 00:00:49,440 Speaker 2: good things up our sleeves. Yes, and it is her 12 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 2: favorite time of month, so just watch out. But it's 13 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 2: also and with our favorite season comes Hispanic Heritage Month, 14 00:00:57,080 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 2: which we also love and respect as well. So for today, 15 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: he's a feminist around the world. We are talking about 16 00:01:02,160 --> 00:01:07,320 Speaker 2: the iconic feminist activists. And y'all, I just figured out 17 00:01:07,360 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 2: that I've been saying this country wrong my entire life, 18 00:01:11,120 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: so it's an adjustment for myself. If I get it wrong, 19 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,240 Speaker 2: please don't yell at me. If y'all think it I'm 20 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:18,200 Speaker 2: trying to be snobbish. I promise you I'm not. But 21 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:20,480 Speaker 2: according to Forbo, who is not a sponsor at this 22 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:25,280 Speaker 2: point in time, I've been saying it completely wrong. But 23 00:01:25,319 --> 00:01:29,119 Speaker 2: we're talking about the country of Uruguay, and I really 24 00:01:29,160 --> 00:01:32,720 Speaker 2: hope I did that right. If I didn't, sorry, correct 25 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 2: me nicely, pleased. But for today's feminists around the world, 26 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,520 Speaker 2: we are talking about Lillian Adrasinskas, and again, I hope 27 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 2: I got that pronunciation right. Went through a lot of YouTube, 28 00:01:42,560 --> 00:01:46,520 Speaker 2: really hard to find translation and pronunciation. If y'all know 29 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:49,480 Speaker 2: the pronunciation better, Again, correct me nicely, because I do 30 00:01:49,560 --> 00:01:52,240 Speaker 2: want to know if I'm saying it wrong. But that 31 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 2: will never stop us from talking about her amazing works. 32 00:01:55,600 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 2: She has been a fixture in the Uruguay and feminist 33 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:00,680 Speaker 2: community and has been hard at work to change and 34 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 2: continue to help the marginalized community in her country. 35 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:06,200 Speaker 1: Aversinskaz has worked to fight for sexual and reproductive rights 36 00:02:06,200 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: in Uruguay for almost forty years now, and in nineteen 37 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:13,160 Speaker 1: ninety six she founded the major Salud Are Women and 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: Health Uruguay, which focuses on working to fight and obtain 39 00:02:17,120 --> 00:02:21,880 Speaker 1: sexual and reproductive rights. Here's some information from NYSU dot 40 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 1: org dot uy. They work quote to exercise sexual and 41 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: reproductive rights, each person must have the capacity and power 42 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,959 Speaker 1: to make free and informed decisions about their reproductive life 43 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: and sexuality. And here's some more information from Globalfundwomen dot org. 44 00:02:39,840 --> 00:02:45,040 Speaker 1: A grantee partner with MYSU, Moyer A Salude works in 45 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:50,640 Speaker 1: four areas monitoring communication, influencing policymakers, and training. And in 46 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: that same article they quote Abrazinskas who says sexual and 47 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 1: reproductive rights are the fundamental terrain for the struggle for rights, 48 00:02:57,760 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: because once we've attained them, it's much easier to fight 49 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: for economic autonomy, for educational autonomy, and labor rights and others. 50 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,400 Speaker 2: Right and that's something she and the organization has been 51 00:03:09,400 --> 00:03:12,880 Speaker 2: pushing in order to keep fighting for autonomy. After legislation 52 00:03:12,960 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 2: passed for abortion rights in twenty twelve. In Uruguay, MISU 53 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,160 Speaker 2: or YSU have worked fast to spread information on reproductive 54 00:03:20,200 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: rights and have tried to increase awareness for the bigger 55 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,920 Speaker 2: picture in the country. In two thousand and seven, the 56 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: organization started a watch group to report and monitor sexual 57 00:03:27,919 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 2: and reproductive rights and needs. Here's another quote from the 58 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 2: Global Fund for Women quote Muheri Salud began a watch 59 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: group on gender and sexual and reproductive health to monitor 60 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:41,480 Speaker 2: birth control, birth and post natal services, domestic and sexual violence, 61 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: sexually transmitted disease, abortion and services to teams to check 62 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 2: how public policies and services are working. Along with research 63 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 2: and monitoring, the group carries out regular surveys and research 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 2: projects that provide important information for increasing the equality and 65 00:03:54,520 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 2: coverage of public health services in the area. 66 00:03:57,080 --> 00:03:59,320 Speaker 1: And After the passing the abortion law, which is still 67 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: pretty restrict even with its whins, Miysu and Abrasiska's worked 68 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: quickly to ensure that the law would remain in place 69 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 1: when anti rights groups tried to have it repealed. In today, 70 00:04:11,480 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: and much like the US, they are still having to 71 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:16,000 Speaker 1: battle to keep the rights they have been fighting to 72 00:04:16,080 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 1: keep in place, as well as expanding. Abraziskas told Global 73 00:04:20,440 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 1: Fund for US the issues of women's bodies, their freedom, 74 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: their autonomy is a big part of the struggle for 75 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: women's empowerment and emancipation in a patriarchal system. It's very 76 00:04:30,320 --> 00:04:33,719 Speaker 1: difficult to recognize yourself as a full citizen if you 77 00:04:33,800 --> 00:04:36,839 Speaker 1: can't make decisions about the most intimate parts of your life. 78 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,760 Speaker 1: She pointed out that oftentimes it is these rights and 79 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: gender and sexual rights in general that are often quote 80 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:45,679 Speaker 1: sacrificed in political negotiations. 81 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,000 Speaker 2: Right, of course, her work with me Sue is not 82 00:04:48,080 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 2: the only thing under her resume. Abersiinska is also as 83 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:54,479 Speaker 2: responsible for a many of things, including the National Observatory 84 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 2: on Gender and SRH, which is the monitoring program to 85 00:04:57,880 --> 00:05:01,120 Speaker 2: ensure that public policies and services contend continue to guarantee 86 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:03,479 Speaker 2: the ability the exercise of human rights. She founded the 87 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: first alternative care for women's health. Also founded Gotti diando Muher, 88 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,239 Speaker 2: which was a Uruguayan feminist collective dedicated to the Uruguay 89 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 2: and feminist movement and feminist political communication. She also represented 90 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,240 Speaker 2: social organizations such as the National Advisory Commission on Sexual 91 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: and Reproductive Health of the Ministry of Health of Uruguay 92 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 2: and the National Commission of Bioethics and Comprehensive Quality of Healthcare, 93 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 2: as well as the National Commissions to Fight A's and 94 00:05:30,600 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 2: was appointed to be a part of the Civil Society 95 00:05:33,240 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 2: Task Force by the Secretary General of the United Nations 96 00:05:36,200 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 2: in twenty eleven. 97 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,040 Speaker 1: And she has been hard at work with the MISSU 98 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 1: or I've been saying NYSU whichever to continue to ensure gender, 99 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: sexual and reproductive rights in Uruguay and all over the world. 100 00:05:48,040 --> 00:05:50,839 Speaker 1: She recently spoke with a famous feminist in twenty twenty 101 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:54,200 Speaker 1: two about the ongoing fight for justice and equal rights, saying, 102 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,960 Speaker 1: the fight never ends. We have to always be vigilant, 103 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:01,400 Speaker 1: and with the political changes that we have seen happen 104 00:06:01,480 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: with different administrations here in the US and all over 105 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:07,800 Speaker 1: the world, including Uruguay, we know that we all have 106 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: to be vigilant and continue to push and fight. When 107 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:14,400 Speaker 1: asked about the overturning of Roe v. Wade in the US, 108 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:19,040 Speaker 1: she said, ah, it's incredible. Really, nothing is written in stone. 109 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 1: We still have to fight this forever and continues on. 110 00:06:22,480 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 1: It reminds us that we cannot rely solely on the 111 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:28,159 Speaker 1: judiciary to guarantee our rights. The members of the court 112 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: change and you lose your rights. We cannot have courts 113 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: giving and then taking away rights like this. We need 114 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:38,840 Speaker 1: to change the social contract. Changes in law, yes, sure, 115 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 1: but also changes in politics and power. These are bigger 116 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:44,040 Speaker 1: objectives of our fight. 117 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 2: She even gave advice for us working to protect the 118 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:49,919 Speaker 2: reproductive rice in the US. She said, don't focus only 119 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 2: on abortion. The political conditions for all of sexual and 120 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,680 Speaker 2: reproductive health for rights and justice and reproduction and sexuality 121 00:06:56,720 --> 00:06:59,800 Speaker 2: more broadly are key road your work to engage in 122 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,800 Speaker 2: the political and economic justice debates in your country and 123 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 2: mobilize that way. This has been one of our most 124 00:07:05,040 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 2: successful strategies in our region. We have allied with social 125 00:07:08,680 --> 00:07:12,360 Speaker 2: justice forces, the labor movement, the environmental movement, the students. 126 00:07:12,400 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: I feel the abortion question has been too siloed in 127 00:07:14,640 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 2: the US, too focused on abortion access, the technology themselves, 128 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 2: like the pill. That's all fine, but it's too narrow. 129 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: We need to reframe. Now what kind of world do 130 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:26,520 Speaker 2: we want? And Yeah, I think this is such a 131 00:07:26,560 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 2: big conversation that we've been having about intersectionality and how 132 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,600 Speaker 2: important it is and the fact that yes, this is 133 00:07:32,680 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 2: one good thing, but when we don't look at the 134 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 2: bigger picture, that it doesn't affect. And we've talked about 135 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 2: the battlement comes to the queer community as well as 136 00:07:39,960 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 2: well as a feminist movement, and then as well as 137 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,280 Speaker 2: racial quality movements. There's so many conversations that we have 138 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 2: to include. And she even goes into a whole conversation 139 00:07:49,480 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 2: about turfs and how detrimental they were and how they 140 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:56,000 Speaker 2: are dangerous when they call themselves good feminists, and I 141 00:07:56,040 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 2: was like, ooh, she's calling them out and I love it. 142 00:07:58,640 --> 00:08:00,840 Speaker 2: But it's such a good conversation. I think she's so right, 143 00:08:00,880 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 2: and she's been working at this for over fifty years 144 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 2: and has been a huge part of what they've been 145 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: doing and obviously still a big part of it and 146 00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 2: has been a part of it with un and all 147 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 2: over the world. So good advice, I think. 148 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Yes, excellent advice. I agree, I agree, yes, And hopefully 149 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: we did not butcher these pronunciations too badly. 150 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:27,040 Speaker 2: Forty years so something that just got destroyed in thirty seconds. 151 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:31,400 Speaker 1: But as always, as you said, that does if we're 152 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: worried about the pronunciation, we don't want that to keep 153 00:08:34,000 --> 00:08:36,360 Speaker 1: us from talking about something. 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