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Speaker 1: Please work with the money, money making conversations J D. Lawrence, Right,

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Speaker 1: I went against the grain. People have told me, I

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Speaker 1: tell it like I did, like you do. But but

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Speaker 1: but it was never any malice and challenging people to

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Speaker 1: know that I'm I'm just a step in your success.

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Speaker 1: There are many many steps after me. You if I

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Speaker 1: can help you up a few steps, but don't expect

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Speaker 1: me to carry you to the end, because that's not

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Speaker 1: the life. Doesn't have that option. So always keep an

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Speaker 1: open mind, always little ezed that God gave you the talent,

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Speaker 1: put in it and maximize it day to day and

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Speaker 1: you will be successful. A little factor. You have, the family,

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Speaker 1: you put them the work. This is your brand. I

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Speaker 1: love the fact that you said, Rashaan, I stutter. We

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Speaker 1: guess what when I hit that stage, I'm mad. Character,

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Speaker 1: Everything's clean, j D. Thank you for coming on. Thank

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Speaker 1: you put it down much. Then I love it