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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Charles Parkley would never get into altercations like

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Speaker 1: that on the floor Hall of Famer inside the NBA

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Speaker 1: T and T analyst. What would you have done if

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Speaker 1: Patrick Beverley did that to you when you were playing well?

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Speaker 1: And first of all, Dan, do you know what time

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Speaker 1: it is? It's nine twenty four East Coast time, and

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Speaker 1: I'm only up at nine twenty four because of your ass. Dan,

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Speaker 1: There's no reason I got nothing to do today but relax,

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Speaker 1: and I'm only up because of you. That's how much

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Speaker 1: love I got for you. Um. You know it depends

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Speaker 1: on the situation, like Chris Paul's got to play in

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Speaker 1: the finals, so he can't get into a fist the coast.

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Speaker 1: But it was just a punk move by Pat Bev.

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Speaker 1: You know he Dan when he tried to almost hurt

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Speaker 1: Christ Now he danced over him when he was on

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Speaker 1: the ground. Uh, and now he can't take it when

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Speaker 1: the when the Rabbits got the gun. So it was

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Speaker 1: just a punk move. Pet Bell is a good kid.

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Speaker 1: He works hard, but it was just a punk move.

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Speaker 1: Playing simple. Do you think it was a successful season

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Speaker 1: for the Clippers? Yes, considering they had never gotten to

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Speaker 1: the conference finals. To get there without Kaui, it was

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Speaker 1: a great season. I mean, think about it, Dan, they

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Speaker 1: had never gotten to the conference finals before, and to

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Speaker 1: lose your best player and get there and beat the

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Speaker 1: team that was the number one seed, I think you

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Speaker 1: can't consider this success. Why is there speculation that Kawai

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Speaker 1: could leave the Clippers? Well, I think the number one

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Speaker 1: Before we decide that, we got to figure out how

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Speaker 1: bad as knee injury is. That's the first thing. And

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Speaker 1: then I think he's gonna happen. He's gonna sit down

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Speaker 1: with his team and say, are we good enough to

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Speaker 1: win the championship in the next couple of years. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's a big decision, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: because it's kind of hard to say right now because

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Speaker 1: you know the Lakers are gonna do something. Are they

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Speaker 1: better than the Jazz? I'm not sure they beat to

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Speaker 1: Jam than us? Should they better than the Jazz? Are

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Speaker 1: they better than the Suns? So I think Kawai he's

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Speaker 1: holding all the good cards right now. He gonna get

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Speaker 1: to pick where he wants to go. If you're Kawhi,

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Speaker 1: do you want to stay with the Clippers. Have you

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Speaker 1: seen enough where you say, even though that's where he

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Speaker 1: wanted to go back to. Yeah, you know, that's a

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Speaker 1: good question, Dan, I really don't know the answer to that,

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Speaker 1: because you have to be in the locker room, because

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Speaker 1: you have to say to yourself, it's Betune gonna stay,

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Speaker 1: it's Sergeon Baker gonna stay. What they gonna do with

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Speaker 1: Reggie Jackson because he's gonna get paid. So at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, it might just meet you and

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Speaker 1: Paul George, And you have to ask yourself, I can

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Speaker 1: go anywhere I want to. You know, I've heard the

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Speaker 1: rumors about him going to Miami or New York, which

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Speaker 1: would be a great destination. So that's a good question.

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Speaker 1: I don't know the answer to it. Yeah, Dallas has

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Speaker 1: also been mentioned. We're talking about dada is A playing

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Speaker 1: with that boy, Pazingis. That would be a really good thing. Also, well,

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Speaker 1: I think they'd have to give up Porzingis. Like you,

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Speaker 1: you would pair him with Luca, Yeah, I know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: oh Luca. Yeah, yeah, I'm like him and Luca would

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Speaker 1: be nice together. Yeah, yeah, for sure. All right, the

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Speaker 1: Bucks playing without Jannis. We see teams that do this

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Speaker 1: and Usually it's a one off where you step your

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Speaker 1: game up when the star players out. Um, how surprised

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Speaker 1: were you with the Bucks last night without him? Wasn't

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Speaker 1: surprised at all, Dan, Dan number one. I want to say,

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Speaker 1: I want to thank you for all the kind words

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Speaker 1: doing a documentary. Um, thank you for the kind words. Uh,

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Speaker 1: but I wasn't surprised, you know, Danca. What's interesting about

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Speaker 1: these games? I always tell people that's until you go

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Speaker 1: on the road and do your thing. That's when you

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Speaker 1: figure out the thing. Like Atlanta, who played great at

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Speaker 1: home and Game four that wasn't the shocker to me?

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Speaker 1: The Bucks playing greeted homeless as night, that wasn't the shocker.

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Speaker 1: Now can they go on the road and do it?

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Speaker 1: To me, that's when you find out who's like legitimate

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Speaker 1: what's gonna happen tomorrow night. All those guys from Atlanta,

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Speaker 1: on the road? To me, that's the key. And Charles

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Speaker 1: was talking about a documentary they did on Inside the

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Speaker 1: in the media. We talked about how difficult it is

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Speaker 1: that you guys make it look easy, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: it all starts, you know, with Ernie to be able

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Speaker 1: to land planes at at JFK. But you know they

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Speaker 1: got to have you, Baton, Batton clean up without you.

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Speaker 1: It's it doesn't work on the magnitude that it has. Well,

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Speaker 1: thank you for the coln word. You know, listen, man,

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Speaker 1: we're so lucky. I Ernie, we call him the godfather

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Speaker 1: because he's the man, and Shaq and Kenny are awesome

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Speaker 1: to work with. But you know, there's so many you know, Dan,

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Speaker 1: you've been a star for a long time and you

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Speaker 1: show up and you just have to be Dan Patrick.

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Speaker 1: But there's so many people around you who do so

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Speaker 1: much heavy lifting. So you know, I mean, unless you're

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Speaker 1: in the business, you have zero idea how it actually works.

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Speaker 1: I mean, there's so many people around you who number

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Speaker 1: one to feed you all the facts and you just

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Speaker 1: show up in your older, older, decent looking man and

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Speaker 1: you just have to be Dan Patrick. But also you

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Speaker 1: you guys have allowed your producers to make fun of

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Speaker 1: you and you're all stars and that damn we're talking

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Speaker 1: about stupid basketball. I always you know, it's so funny

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Speaker 1: with me when you know I've been to think for

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Speaker 1: thirty six years. I tell the guys when they started

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Speaker 1: taking themselves to serious, like, yo, man, you do know

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Speaker 1: you played basketball, right, You're not like a doctor or

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Speaker 1: somebody who's in the army to teach your a fireman,

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Speaker 1: a police. When people like a real job, you dribble

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Speaker 1: a stupid basketball. You make more money than God to

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Speaker 1: just dribble a stupid basketball. When you start taking yourself

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Speaker 1: too serious, you need to take a step back, like, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm really not that important. I just played basketball. That

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Speaker 1: was a nice documentary. Everybody loved it. There's the Last

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Speaker 1: Dance documentary that it still seems like that's bothering Scottie Pippen.

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Speaker 1: What did you make of Scottie's comments when he was

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Speaker 1: on with me earlier in the week. You know, I'm

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Speaker 1: disappointed in Scottie because he's burning every bridge. I know

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Speaker 1: he has a book coming out. Listen, Scotti was a

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Speaker 1: very good player. I've always liked Scotty too. I've always

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Speaker 1: just laughing because I'm like, yo, man, you do know

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Speaker 1: we're like sixty years old. We don't have beef anymore.

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Speaker 1: We're like sixty. What we accomplished was thirty years ago.

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Speaker 1: It's not important us a difficult. It was great in

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Speaker 1: the day, but now it's so. I was disappointed he's

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Speaker 1: taking shots at Michael, Phil Jackson and myself. But I

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Speaker 1: understand he's got a book coming out, and I just

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Speaker 1: think it's silly and stupid to be honest with you. Listen, hey,

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Speaker 1: we know you got a book coming out. Stop trying

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Speaker 1: to make you know, take shots at big fish. He's

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Speaker 1: big game hunting. You come out to myself, you come

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Speaker 1: out to Michael, you come out to Phil Jackson. Hey,

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Speaker 1: long run, to be honest with you, stuff that stuff

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Speaker 1: you haven't said in thirty years. Then I've been retired

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Speaker 1: for twenty years. Can you imagine that? And so that

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Speaker 1: If if you're gonna say something bad about Michael Jordan,

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing. I just feel sadness for him

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Speaker 1: more than anything. I didn't think there was strategy behind

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Speaker 1: him what he said about Phil Jackson. I think he's

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Speaker 1: been carrying those one point eight seconds when he sat

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Speaker 1: and the Last Dance documentary just sort of gave a

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Speaker 1: Last Dance. Well, you know, for me, Dan, I have

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Speaker 1: to take the good and the bad. When people talk

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Speaker 1: about Charles Barkley, I don't get to sugarcoat like everything

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Speaker 1: I've did stupid in my life, the spitting incident, the

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Speaker 1: saying somebody when people say, okay, yeah, but he did

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Speaker 1: Like I got a dui. I spit back in my day,

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Speaker 1: very good basketball player, but he did some things, you know,

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Speaker 1: not having surgery, not going back in the game. When

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Speaker 1: some things I'm not proud of I've done in my life,

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Speaker 1: sucks when people bring him up. I'm not gonna lie.

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Speaker 1: It sucked when people bring him up, But hey, I've

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Speaker 1: done more good than bad. We had Chris Weber on yesterday.

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Speaker 1: We were talking about Jamal Mashburn telling a story about

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Speaker 1: the Dream Team when the college guys were scrimmaging against

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Speaker 1: then See Webb was backing it up, saying Bird just

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Speaker 1: you know, Magic fed Bird like eight or nine times

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Speaker 1: about that moment? You know, Lard Bird is one of

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Speaker 1: you know, playing against Bird, mckill and Paris the greatest

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Speaker 1: front line ever. I always laugh about Lara because Lara

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Speaker 1: is like, Chuck, I need to talk to you in

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Speaker 1: the middle of a game Layer Dan. He's like, I said,

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Speaker 1: what's going on, Lara? He's LB, He's just being disrespectful

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Speaker 1: that's disrespectful. I'm like, it caught me off guard. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Bob are one of my favorite teammates. He's like, hey, man, listen,

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Speaker 1: easy for me being the get off my long guy,

422
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:06,760
Speaker 1: and back in my day these guys would play hurt.

423
00:23:07,119 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 1: I mean, these are long, these are big investments. I

424
00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 1: mean the Bucks, this is a guaranteed contract, the Greek freaks,

425
00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:16,840
Speaker 1: you know, two hundred and fifty million dollars here. But

426
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: you don't know if you're ever be in this position again.

427
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:23,760
Speaker 1: And that's where I wonder, how much can we expect.

428
00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:26,840
Speaker 1: I want to be fair to him. I want to

429
00:23:26,840 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 1: be fair to Kauai. You know, these guys who have injuries,

430
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 1: having had you know, six D surgeries. Myself, I understand it,

431
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:38,080
Speaker 1: but at some point is it wrong for us to

432
00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:41,560
Speaker 1: ask for you to do a little more given what's

433
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,479
Speaker 1: at stake here? I think, Yeah, I'm just gonna talk

434
00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: about Giannis. I don't know Kawi's situation, but I know this.

435
00:23:48,800 --> 00:23:51,200
Speaker 1: These dudes are some of the most elite players that

436
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 1: sacrifice everything. Jannis has done every single thing right. Like,

437
00:23:56,840 --> 00:23:59,680
Speaker 1: Jannis is a good dude. He plays the game the

438
00:23:59,800 --> 00:24:03,480
Speaker 1: right way. He doesn't doesn't take days off. His teammates

439
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 1: love him. He plays with ferocity every single night. I

440
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:10,760
Speaker 1: always look at it as if that was my son.

441
00:24:10,840 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 1: What I let him play, the way his knees buckled right,

442
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:17,720
Speaker 1: the way he has. I don't know the doctor thing.

443
00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 1: I understand the big picture of yes, you're going to

444
00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: the finals, but I also understand the picture of Jannis

445
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:29,520
Speaker 1: has an opportunity to be one of the all time greats.

446
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,560
Speaker 1: He has that that is more important than the now,

447
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:36,560
Speaker 1: because I don't want you to go out there and

448
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 1: your twenty percent or five percent and all of a sudden,

449
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,640
Speaker 1: something more happens and then you regret that moment. Right, Yannis,

450
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 1: You're special, Like this is not a finger, This is

451
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: not you know, an elbow on the other side. Right,

452
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,560
Speaker 1: this is not a wrist, This is his knee. And

453
00:24:54,760 --> 00:24:58,959
Speaker 1: he can't be Yannis. Who who with the knee? Who

454
00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,600
Speaker 1: that is wobbly like hot Twizzler. You just can't do it.

455
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,879
Speaker 1: Are the Sun's gonna be the favorite no matter who

456
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 1: goes in out of the East. I love the Suns, man.

457
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,720
Speaker 1: I know I'm from Phoenix, so I'm a Homer. But

458
00:25:09,880 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: they played good basketball, Like that's what. Like, my son

459
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,440
Speaker 1: just got into basketball last week. He played lacrosse, he

460
00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:18,199
Speaker 1: played hockey, he played all the suburban sports and finally

461
00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:21,920
Speaker 1: they were like, yo, you gotta start playing basketball. And

462
00:25:22,119 --> 00:25:24,719
Speaker 1: I tell him to watch the Suns. Everyone Money Williams

463
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:28,200
Speaker 1: coach me. I think Chris Paul is still underrated and

464
00:25:28,359 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 1: Devin Booker now Chris Paul is underrated well because everyone

465
00:25:34,119 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 1: now was talking about how good he is just because

466
00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: he went to the finals is due. He've been this

467
00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:42,160
Speaker 1: good for sixteen years. And I had I'm lucky enough

468
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 1: to have conversations with Charles and Isaiah Thomas, and we

469
00:25:45,600 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 1: were talking about guys who never had a chance to win,

470
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: but who were bad, like who were absolutely ridiculously good

471
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Speaker 1: in their time, and Chris Paul has been ridiculously good

472
00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:00,199
Speaker 1: in his time, and he's a true point guard. Right,

473
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,119
Speaker 1: those things are like, you know, like antiques. Nowadays, everyone

474
00:26:04,200 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: turned into a combo guard because they couldn't get Chris Paul.

475
00:26:07,760 --> 00:26:10,680
Speaker 1: They couldn't get that guy, and so between him and

476
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:14,479
Speaker 1: Devin Booker, they kill you on mid ranges. That's against

477
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:18,120
Speaker 1: all the analytics, right, So hold off, wait what we're

478
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:21,480
Speaker 1: not talking about analytics now? Because Devin Booker dominated like absolutely,

479
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:23,480
Speaker 1: he like flicked it off like a little Booker on

480
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:26,640
Speaker 1: the table. He's like that, get that mess out of here, right,

481
00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: So I tell my son to watch him. Like all

482
00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 1: he does is, hey, if you're gonna follow me, I'm

483
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,080
Speaker 1: gonna shoot the floater. If you're gonna give me the

484
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,359
Speaker 1: right pull up, I'm gonna take this. Just take what

485
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:37,119
Speaker 1: you can get. And at the end of the day,

486
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:39,040
Speaker 1: if you could shoot all of it, you're gonna have

487
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,720
Speaker 1: Hi thirty. It's easy. It's simple. The game is simple,

488
00:26:41,760 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: and they just played good basketball. And I think the

489
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:47,600
Speaker 1: Hawks played good basketball. Obviously. I like Nate McMillan what

490
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: he's been doing with that team. Guys are coming in

491
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 1: and step it in. You know, last night they just

492
00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: got you know, they just got Big BOYD. But it'll

493
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: be interesting game next game. Yeah. I And we're talking

494
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,000
Speaker 1: to Channing Fry, the Attornish sports NBA analyst. He won

495
00:27:01,080 --> 00:27:04,119
Speaker 1: a championship with Lebron James and the Cleveland Cavalier. I

496
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,160
Speaker 1: carried him, yeah, him as you like this, I got

497
00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:11,800
Speaker 1: you this point. Yeah, it's like yeah, yeah, like I

498
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 1: got you here. Let me take the rest now, right

499
00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: there's no big guys out there for me. And you

500
00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:19,440
Speaker 1: know what, I've never seen that story written, so I

501
00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: appreciate you. You're telling me exclusive right here. You're like

502
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: the word very humble. That's that's what. How often would

503
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,480
Speaker 1: you get yelled at by Lebron James when you played

504
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: with him? Oh? Man, um, not as often as you think.

505
00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: He's more of a look guy. Well, Jordan would give

506
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:40,960
Speaker 1: his teammates. Jordan gave his teammates the look you didn't

507
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,320
Speaker 1: want the looks okay, one would make him? What would

508
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:49,399
Speaker 1: make him give you the look? Lack of confidence? So

509
00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,480
Speaker 1: like if he passed you the ball and you don't

510
00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 1: shoot it because you missed too, he'll look at you

511
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:56,919
Speaker 1: like you're crazy, and then he goes, you don't think

512
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,840
Speaker 1: I know what I'm doing, shoot the ball, and I'd

513
00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:00,720
Speaker 1: be like, dang, yeah, you are, Bron, so I probably

514
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:04,160
Speaker 1: should shoot it next time. It's all encouraging, it's all good.

515
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:06,200
Speaker 1: He's one of the best teammates I've had. What would

516
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 1: he do with Ben Simmons channing? Okay, Well, I'm just

517
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,960
Speaker 1: gonna speak for him. I'd tell him to switch hands

518
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,280
Speaker 1: like Tristan Thompson switch hands. I've been saying it since

519
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 1: his freshman year at LSU. I thought that he was

520
00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,480
Speaker 1: a right hander and he was shooting left handed. Yeah,

521
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 1: I mean like Lebron is left handed and shoots right

522
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: handed and does things right handed. Lebron writes and eats

523
00:28:33,119 --> 00:28:37,040
Speaker 1: left handed. So for me, let's start over Ben. Okay, already,

524
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,240
Speaker 1: it can't get any lower because you don't take shots.

525
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: So let's work with the other hand, because then it's new,

526
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: it's fresh. You don't have the you know we used

527
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,080
Speaker 1: to say, you don't have the yips right on his

528
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: left hand, his elbows out, his risk goes, says side

529
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: he's trying to like Aimy, he doesn't have feel, So

530
00:28:52,880 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: learn how to have feel with your hand, Like you

531
00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:57,120
Speaker 1: got to feel the ball. As a shooter, you gotta

532
00:28:57,120 --> 00:28:59,400
Speaker 1: have like a nice smooth motion. Now if you start

533
00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,200
Speaker 1: from scrap almost like Chuck swing. Have you ever seen

534
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,440
Speaker 1: Chuck swing left handed? It looks perfect, and then you

535
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: see him swing right handed, and it kind of it

536
00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:09,400
Speaker 1: was better now, but like then, it kind of got

537
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 1: a little chop because his mind is used to doing

538
00:29:11,920 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 1: it the wrong way more than it's used to doing right.

539
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,480
Speaker 1: Ben Simmons is one of the most talented guys in NBA,

540
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:20,160
Speaker 1: and the criticism he's getting is only because of that,

541
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:24,920
Speaker 1: right and only because he's it looked like he was

542
00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: afraid to not look cool, right. He was afraid to

543
00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:33,880
Speaker 1: be embarrassed at his shot or at his thing. To me,

544
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: I just tell Ben Simmons, give me three spots this summer.

545
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 1: Give me three spots on the court where if you

546
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:42,680
Speaker 1: go there you'll be willing to go over ten, over twenty.

547
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:45,640
Speaker 1: But for us, we know you're working on just three spots.

548
00:29:46,480 --> 00:29:49,080
Speaker 1: And in free throws, just give me fifty percent, thirty

549
00:29:49,120 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: four percent. You could kick that thing in there for

550
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: the thirty four percent. Come on, man, but shoot granny style.

551
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: You don't got to be cool. You gotta di Zeba's

552
00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: win shoot Granny style. Is trash talk a lost art

553
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,080
Speaker 1: in the NBA today? Yeah, nobody. We were talking about

554
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: that too last night. Nobody. Everyone gets so personal about

555
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:09,800
Speaker 1: it because sometimes dudes don't know how to do it correctly,

556
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: like they really, there's so much information on people, like

557
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if trash talking used to be heresay

558
00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: where now people could wikipedia and talk about your uncle

559
00:30:18,120 --> 00:30:20,440
Speaker 1: who you know end up going to jail for something.

560
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 1: You know. It's just too personal. But trash talk is great.

561
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: I think it's good. I think, but what would you say,

562
00:30:27,160 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 1: did you trash talk only certain times for certain guys

563
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,640
Speaker 1: if I needed to. I'm a nice guy, like I

564
00:30:33,800 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: smile a lot. I like life is good. You know.

565
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: A long time ago a doctor told me I was

566
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,040
Speaker 1: going to die, and then I played another six years

567
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 1: in the NBA. So I have like a glass half

568
00:30:44,760 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: full all the time attitude, and so I needed to

569
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:52,440
Speaker 1: be mean sometimes. And when I knew the guy across

570
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:55,600
Speaker 1: from me was really nice, I needed to talk reckless

571
00:30:55,720 --> 00:30:58,800
Speaker 1: to him. And I mean i'd literally, just like I

572
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,720
Speaker 1: don't know, cuss him out, like he got my order

573
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:04,920
Speaker 1: wrong at McDonald's right, like just anything any little thing.

574
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 1: I would make things up. Um, you know, I think

575
00:31:07,560 --> 00:31:10,680
Speaker 1: they say Bobby Portis imagines that people slap his mob

576
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,680
Speaker 1: and now that's a little serious for me, but you know,

577
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,600
Speaker 1: Bobby Portis is crazy. But to me, I would just

578
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:18,120
Speaker 1: be like, this dude wants to steal food off my

579
00:31:18,160 --> 00:31:20,920
Speaker 1: table for me and my kids, and then I would

580
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 1: just kind of get mad that way. Would you have

581
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 1: an appendix? Is that? No? No? No, So they thought

582
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: I had in large heart. So they thought I had cardiomyopathy,

583
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: which is way more serious. In appendix. Yes, it in

584
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: appendix is hurt. Yeah, I had. I had a swollen

585
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: impendix appendix for six weeks and was flying. And when

586
00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,280
Speaker 1: the doctor found out I uh, he was like, I

587
00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: don't know how you didn't die or how you didn't

588
00:31:44,080 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: get appendicitis, And I was like, well I didn't, So

589
00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 1: let's get that nasty little thing out of here. Well

590
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 1: you had, you know, Chris Bosh, you had to go

591
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 1: through that where they just said no, we're gonna shut

592
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 1: you down. There. There have been you know, you have

593
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: Hank Gathers, you have Reggie Lewis. I mean we've had

594
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: these players. Pete Merivitch at age forty they found out,

595
00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: you know, he had heart to Marcus Aldridge. Yeah, he

596
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:09,840
Speaker 1: has to shut it down as well. Jeff Green had

597
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 1: to get surgery up his chest. It to open his

598
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 1: chest up. Scary, it's a gnarly scar. Yeah. Who do

599
00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,520
Speaker 1: you think? Do you think there's any chance Lebron gets

600
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:25,480
Speaker 1: Dame Lillard to Ella? Did you see what I wrote?

601
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 1: I live in Portland, so I said, Dave, don't fall

602
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: for the trend. People don't know my humor, so like

603
00:32:32,360 --> 00:32:35,560
Speaker 1: they're like Jenny stuff Aiden, I'm like that, I'm just joking, right.

604
00:32:35,640 --> 00:32:39,400
Speaker 1: First of all, I there's always a chance for everything.

605
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:44,480
Speaker 1: And here's why. I think the communication between your owner, GM,

606
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 1: coach and star player should be fluid, right, And I

607
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 1: think you're seeing that. You're seeing that in Phoenix, that

608
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 1: that works right. James Jones, Monti Williams, Chris Paul, Devin

609
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 1: Booker are on one page right. They bring in the

610
00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 1: right guys, they have the right attitude towards the game.

611
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 1: There's just enough pressure to develop the young guys, but

612
00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,760
Speaker 1: to always expect to win every game in Portland. I

613
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 1: don't know if that communication is exactly there now, but

614
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: we have to wait. I think Chauncey Billups is a

615
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 1: it was an amazing player who doesn't get talked about enough.

616
00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: He was like, if you were up or down three

617
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,960
Speaker 1: or four, excuse me, Johnson Billis was gonna win that game.

618
00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 1: Like they don't call him like Johnson Willis was in

619
00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: big shot after big shot. So I think his communication

620
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,560
Speaker 1: with players is going to be great. I think he's

621
00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: gonna get He's gonna hopefully unlock some of the guys

622
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,320
Speaker 1: who have been kind of settling in. They just have

623
00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:47,960
Speaker 1: injuries though. Chauncey I mean, I mean, I mean, I

624
00:33:48,280 --> 00:33:50,640
Speaker 1: don't know if I'm if I'm Lillard, I'm thirty, and

625
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,240
Speaker 1: I'm looking at all the other great players, and he

626
00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 1: is a great player, but he doesn't play. You know,

627
00:33:56,000 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: I haven't had the opportunity to play in meaningful games,

628
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,400
Speaker 1: and I just don't see it happening. So would you

629
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: have him go? I would not let him stay in

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Speaker 1: the West. If on the Blazers, I would. I would

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00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,799
Speaker 1: look at Philadelphia if I thought I was getting equal

632
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,000
Speaker 1: value for him. And that's not just we get Ben Simmons.

633
00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:17,160
Speaker 1: I got to get something else here. Yeah, yeah, you

634
00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: gotta get a lot because Damian Lillard is the heartbeat

635
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:25,040
Speaker 1: of Portland. You got to get a quote unquote generational

636
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:28,359
Speaker 1: talent that is going to stay there, right, I mean,

637
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: for instance, you got to be like, here, I'll give

638
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: you Damian Lillard for John Morant. Like to me, that's

639
00:34:34,120 --> 00:34:37,480
Speaker 1: equal to me, that's equal. I know that's crazy to say,

640
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: but John Morant will stay in a small market and

641
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: develop as you go through the rebuilding process. Right if

642
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,360
Speaker 1: you were to get rid of Damian Lillard, So who's

643
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:49,160
Speaker 1: a young guy there's gonna stay in a small market

644
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: because you don't want to trade Damian Lillard for Ben Simmons.

645
00:34:53,080 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: And Ben Simmons is like, Okay, I'm here for two

646
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,880
Speaker 1: years now I want to go to New York or

647
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: now I want to go to Brooklyn. You need somebody

648
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 1: who's gonna like dig their roots into that. That's how

649
00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: rare he is. But Ben needs to be in a

650
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 1: smaller market. He needs to have a team that's his Like,

651
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: I think part of the problem he's in Philly. They

652
00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,720
Speaker 1: expect to win. Doc Rivers comes in EMBIID MVP candidate.

653
00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 1: You know, Ben needs to be in a place where

654
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:19,000
Speaker 1: he can play and he can play in games that

655
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,799
Speaker 1: might not be meaningful and it can help him get

656
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:26,560
Speaker 1: some confidence back. Right. So basically, if Orlando had a package,

657
00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:29,640
Speaker 1: you would send him to Orlando. They're completely rebuilding. Yeah,

658
00:35:29,719 --> 00:35:31,920
Speaker 1: they got some young guys. Yeah, and here here, Ben,

659
00:35:32,320 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 1: we're going to develop you and then you could have

660
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: Ben and Marquel folks play on the same team together. Yeah.

661
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 1: Well I just named Orlando. It's not like I was

662
00:35:40,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: even thinking about the Ross. I don't know if I

663
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:45,200
Speaker 1: put those two together. But you know, I think again, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. Ben Simmons is a guy that

665
00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: needs like Jannis needs to Chris Middleton, Ben Simmons needs

666
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 1: to be the best player or the most dominant player. Well,

667
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,200
Speaker 1: he plays different when he didn't have Joe l Embiad

668
00:35:59,239 --> 00:36:03,239
Speaker 1: in the lineup. Yeah, it's I'm pretty sure that Doc

669
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 1: Rivers conversation went, thank you, Ben, I love your service.

670
00:36:05,880 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: But we're rolling with this dude on a nightly basis,

671
00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,040
Speaker 1: and I don't know how that feels because they've always

672
00:36:12,080 --> 00:36:14,399
Speaker 1: been Oh, you guys are one, A, one B. Now

673
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: it's like, no, Joel's one, two and three and you're

674
00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:20,520
Speaker 1: four in defense. But did you ever go to the

675
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: line and like you lose your cut? You were a

676
00:36:23,360 --> 00:36:25,600
Speaker 1: really good shooter. But you go to the line and

677
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 1: sometimes when you're not moving, like playing golf, that ball

678
00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: doesn't move and it freaks people out. Whereas baseball, you're

679
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560
Speaker 1: throwing and I got a swing, like, we love the

680
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:38,400
Speaker 1: reaction as an athlete, but when you get to the line,

681
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:46,000
Speaker 1: everything stops and it's just you dribbling looking at the basket. Yeah.

682
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 1: Did you ever have a moment where you go, I

683
00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,439
Speaker 1: lost confidence or what the hell did I just go? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah,

684
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:57,920
Speaker 1: oh yeah. You know me being a shooter or a specialist. Right,

685
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,000
Speaker 1: I'm out there for one I'm out there for one reason. Right,

686
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm out there to space the floor. And my biggest

687
00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: joke was like, hey, when I'm out here, I may

688
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,680
Speaker 1: not have any points, but nobody's getting double teams, right,

689
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: you can play one on one as long as I'm

690
00:37:11,320 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 1: out here, because if I get a chance to shoot,

691
00:37:13,360 --> 00:37:15,120
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shoot it. I'm gonna make it. So that

692
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:17,120
Speaker 1: was my running joke, and that's kind of the attitude

693
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,960
Speaker 1: I have towards a game. And so for me, you

694
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 1: have to always go back to the work. You always

695
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 1: got to imagine when you were you know, when I

696
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:26,879
Speaker 1: was a kid, it was one hundred and fifteen. I'm

697
00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:30,439
Speaker 1: out there shooting with my dad on that hot half

698
00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:34,040
Speaker 1: tennis court, half basketball hoop in my neighborhood, right, And

699
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: I remember those days where it was like it was

700
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:40,359
Speaker 1: everything and nothing else was more important. Right, And then

701
00:37:40,400 --> 00:37:43,560
Speaker 1: you realize you come back to that moment where it's like, dude,

702
00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 1: it's a free throw. I've done this a trillion times, Like,

703
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:50,560
Speaker 1: I'm not in this arena. It's just me the hoop

704
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: and the work that I put in, and you just

705
00:37:52,760 --> 00:37:55,800
Speaker 1: go shoot it. Yeah, but you can practice bad habite

706
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,600
Speaker 1: when I go to this, I go to that. I

707
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 1: don't like driving range. I can I can hit one

708
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,719
Speaker 1: hundred balls, but if I'm not doing it correctly, yeah,

709
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 1: then I'm not getting any better. And I think that's

710
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: the player's fault. That's the player's fault. You cannot be

711
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 1: a MAX player or somebody who is an upper echelon

712
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: All Star and you don't have There are amazing elite

713
00:38:18,719 --> 00:38:21,160
Speaker 1: people to teach you how to shoot, how to break

714
00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 1: down film, how to dribble, how to do all the

715
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 1: major skills to be successful. So there's nobody else's fault

716
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,000
Speaker 1: but your own that you don't do it and again

717
00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:32,680
Speaker 1: I go back to Lebron. This man hurts his ankle,

718
00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 1: he has twenty around o'clock care. If he's hurt longer

719
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,799
Speaker 1: than two weeks, he has somebody change his diet right

720
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: because he has a chef. He doesn't drive because he's

721
00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: ice his knees. He's doing this, he's watching film. So

722
00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: there's no excuse because what he has you can do right.

723
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,640
Speaker 1: These guys are getting one hundred, two hundred and three

724
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 1: and four hund a million and you're worried and you

725
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,120
Speaker 1: can't shoot a free throw. Stop it. Find somebody who's

726
00:38:55,160 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: the best shooting coach in the world. Hire him for

727
00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:01,960
Speaker 1: a summer, have him at your chateau on the side,

728
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: because you know you got a firehouse, and teach you

729
00:39:05,840 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: every single day. Create a relationship with that person so

730
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 1: he's not just there for checks. So he's there for

731
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 1: you and so he can communicate with you how to

732
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 1: be the best you. Everyone has talent. How did you

733
00:39:16,840 --> 00:39:19,880
Speaker 1: do it? No, I don't know. I don't have the patience.

734
00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:27,160
Speaker 1: I don't have the patience. Shooting is very simple to me, obviously,

735
00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 1: because that's what I do. And so people get they

736
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:33,520
Speaker 1: get too much like you gotta humble yourself before the game, right.

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00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: You know what? I felt like I was one of

738
00:39:35,360 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: the best shooters, and every day I would do the

739
00:39:37,360 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: most simple remedial things, the basics that would help me

740
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:45,440
Speaker 1: build out how I became a shooter. That's the only

741
00:39:45,480 --> 00:39:47,840
Speaker 1: way to do it. And you gotta humble yourself. It's boring,

742
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: it's tedious, and you got to sit there and do it,

743
00:39:51,280 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: and you got to do it perfect, and then you

744
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:54,879
Speaker 1: go to step two and a lot of guys want

745
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: to skip it because they're talented, but you can't do that.

746
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Speaker 1: Great to talk to you. Thanks for joining us this

747
00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: great man. Yeah, I appreciate thanks, Thank you man. That's

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Speaker 1: hitting one of my favorite shows. I've been talking about

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Speaker 1: Bosh for well but seven years now, since day one.

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Speaker 1: Titus Welliver is the uh, the lead of this, but

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00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:15,040
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Speaker 1: us on the program. Congrats on the success of the

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Speaker 1: show there, Jamie, How surprised were you with the success

769
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Speaker 1: of this? Thank you Dan, thanks for having me. By

770
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: the way, surprise you know, well, it was amazing to

771
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: us because we were the first show on Amazon to

772
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 1: actually set Amazon off on this this platform of viewership,

773
00:41:38,960 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: right people actually sitting there watching Amazon as a television show.

774
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:46,120
Speaker 1: And then to see this concess the longest running show

775
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:48,680
Speaker 1: on Amazon. It just it blew my mind. So how

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00:41:48,719 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: surprised was I? With Michael Connelly and Eric over my

777
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:56,239
Speaker 1: on board. I was, I was, I was. I was

778
00:41:56,480 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: not surprised that it was great because I know that

779
00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,800
Speaker 1: they were writing and the asking was going to be

780
00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: on point. But I was just happy that we lasted

781
00:42:03,400 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: this long. Ever get really mad at Bosh or vice versa,

782
00:42:07,640 --> 00:42:10,279
Speaker 1: like Titus, You and Titus when when you're filming, did

783
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: you ever get really angry meaning the two of us

784
00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: personally in our real life, or we mean Harry and Jay. Well,

785
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: I know Harry and Jay Edgar. You guys have a

786
00:42:21,080 --> 00:42:25,240
Speaker 1: real problem in season seven, But have you and Titus

787
00:42:25,360 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 1: had No? No, no, no, no, we never had an

788
00:42:29,239 --> 00:42:31,480
Speaker 1: argument about anything. Actually, you know, we get it all

789
00:42:31,560 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 1: really well with both from the East Coast, respected each

790
00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:38,080
Speaker 1: other's work before we came on board, and we approached

791
00:42:38,120 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 1: to work similar and similar fashions, so we enjoyed working

792
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,720
Speaker 1: around each other. We just always can't wait to getting

793
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:46,759
Speaker 1: back to work with understanding. Right, We've been doing this

794
00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:49,920
Speaker 1: for seven seasons, so every year we were ready to

795
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: come back to work with each other, and this year

796
00:42:52,200 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: things are changing, meeting going into next year. But no, no,

797
00:42:55,400 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 1: never any conflict or anything at all. Yeah, And then

798
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,120
Speaker 1: I started to wonder about is when you immerse yourself

799
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 1: in a role. So when you're playing a cop that

800
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 1: you probably have to hang out with cops, do you

801
00:43:07,080 --> 00:43:11,120
Speaker 1: look at cops differently now having played a cop. Well,

802
00:43:11,360 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 1: I do, well, you know, I look at good cops,

803
00:43:15,080 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: saying as I've always looked at them. You know what

804
00:43:17,880 --> 00:43:20,319
Speaker 1: I mean, people that have dedicated to doing the work,

805
00:43:20,480 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: people that are dedicated to supporting and protecting and serving. Right,

806
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:25,800
Speaker 1: and you're a good cop on Bosh, right, would you

807
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,839
Speaker 1: say you're a good comp? I mean I do the work,

808
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,880
Speaker 1: you try, you try to be a try. Yeah, absolutely,

809
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: I come and I try to do the work. That

810
00:43:34,840 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 1: is to a perfect example. You've seen the season, right,

811
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,440
Speaker 1: it's first season when we were trying to capture Nikophiliac.

812
00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: I'm sure everybody wants that guy off the street. And

813
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:49,080
Speaker 1: that's our job to make sure that the civilians and

814
00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,040
Speaker 1: citizens are protected and we come out there to serving them.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, I consider myself a good cop. Absolutely. But

816
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: but did you do dri drive alongs with the cops

817
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,640
Speaker 1: when you were researching the Yeah, I did, you know what?

818
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 1: From New York? So I've done driving alongs with my

819
00:44:04,920 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: partners here in New York. Todd Butler. And then when

820
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:12,719
Speaker 1: I went to La. I've done driving rounds with Tim

821
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Speaker 1: Marsha and Mitzi Robertson and it was an amazing adventure,

822
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:23,320
Speaker 1: right because we drove all around La, went to Watts,

823
00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:28,600
Speaker 1: went to Inglewood, and then made it back to Beverly Hills.

824
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Speaker 1: And that's when the drama started. That's when we had

825
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: to jump out and Tim actually had to go and

826
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Speaker 1: address an individual that was as Sulf and his wife. Well,

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00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,040
Speaker 1: then it gets real and then like, so do you

828
00:44:42,120 --> 00:44:44,840
Speaker 1: stay in the car? You know what? I stay in

829
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:46,440
Speaker 1: the car. But it was one incident out here in

830
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Speaker 1: New York where we went on a raid and it

831
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:52,480
Speaker 1: was a guy that was selling guns out of his home.

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Speaker 1: He was from North Carolina, and they told me we

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00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,560
Speaker 1: met at six o'clock in the morning and they said

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Speaker 1: listen and stay in the car, or you can come inside.

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Speaker 1: I was like, what's up with the bulletproof vest? Body?

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00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: I mean this was in Bushwood, Brooklyn, right, Oh yeah.

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Speaker 1: So I was like, hold on this second, So you

838
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,080
Speaker 1: guys are allowing me to come into the house. So

839
00:45:14,120 --> 00:45:15,759
Speaker 1: they let me go in. I went in, no gun,

840
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,840
Speaker 1: no vest. Of course I wouldn't have a gun, but

841
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:22,080
Speaker 1: they were certain that it was safe. Some of them

842
00:45:22,120 --> 00:45:25,200
Speaker 1: climbed the fence, some walked through the door. I walked

843
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:27,080
Speaker 1: through the door, and then we scott the entire partner.

844
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,720
Speaker 1: And it was really interesting because the guy got wind

845
00:45:30,239 --> 00:45:33,680
Speaker 1: that they were coming and he took off. I wonder, though,

846
00:45:33,760 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: if somebody's gonna see you and think it's Marlow from

847
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: the wire meaning oh you meaning like on the on

848
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: the rig, yeah, the drive along? Yeah, yeah, hey Marlow. Yeah.

849
00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:47,480
Speaker 1: Now I experienced that. I did. I experienced that going

850
00:45:47,760 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 1: driving in in Inglewood, and it was like, Marlow, are

851
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,480
Speaker 1: you more likely to have somebody ask you a question

852
00:45:56,520 --> 00:46:00,719
Speaker 1: about the wire or bosh when you when somebody recognizes you,

853
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: you know what it's. It's a combination of both. Now,

854
00:46:03,280 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: because I'll based it on a New York mix right

855
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:09,800
Speaker 1: the Madison Square Guard. I would always go there to

856
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:13,919
Speaker 1: go watch the game, and my first two or three

857
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:19,480
Speaker 1: seasons of working on um Bosh, whenever I walked through

858
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:24,000
Speaker 1: the stadium, everyone would be screaming out Marlow, Marlow Stanfield,

859
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:25,760
Speaker 1: why oh my god, let's do this the second picture.

860
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:30,120
Speaker 1: But then after the third season, four or five, six,

861
00:46:30,480 --> 00:46:33,640
Speaker 1: whenever I went back to a game that it just

862
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:37,000
Speaker 1: changed for some reason. Everyone was screaming Jerry Edger. For

863
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:39,040
Speaker 1: the most part, people were really loving the show when

864
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: they were approaching me based on that, So it's a

865
00:46:42,040 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: fine balance right now. They really loved the work in

866
00:46:44,719 --> 00:46:48,480
Speaker 1: the show. PAULI, my producer has a question, but he

867
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 1: wants you to know if he'll answer this as Marlow. Okay,

868
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,759
Speaker 1: can you are you capable? No, let me tap back

869
00:46:56,760 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: in on. I need a minute, and of course I

870
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 1: just make sure you know I just yeah, okay, all right, Paula,

871
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:08,719
Speaker 1: your question for for for Jamie as Marlow. If you're

872
00:47:08,760 --> 00:47:10,840
Speaker 1: a fan of the Wire like most of us are, Okay,

873
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 1: I guess maybe either Marlow or your character when you

874
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 1: had to kill Prop Joe. What was going through your mind?

875
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:20,239
Speaker 1: Prop Joe is what a big drug dealer on the

876
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 1: very lovable but beloved by the fans. So this is

877
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 1: not as Jamie. Heck, this is a yeah, maybe ball

878
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: through Marlow's mind? Yeah, all right? Well, what was going

879
00:47:31,840 --> 00:47:34,360
Speaker 1: through through his mind? I would have to say, was

880
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 1: his purpose on earth has expired. It was done. And

881
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: looking at him in the way he took care of himself,

882
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:48,120
Speaker 1: the way that he took care of his community, meaning himself,

883
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:52,480
Speaker 1: physicality wise, and just his an ability to control his

884
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: people anymore. It was just time for somebody to remove

885
00:47:55,880 --> 00:47:58,960
Speaker 1: that crime, and that's what Marla was constantly chasing, which

886
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 1: was power and problem Joe had it. How far ahead

887
00:48:04,360 --> 00:48:06,480
Speaker 1: did you get in the Wire that you knew what

888
00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:16,439
Speaker 1: was going to happen? Well, we received a script, well

889
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:20,320
Speaker 1: unlike today, which we're binge watching right, Yeah, so we

890
00:48:20,640 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: I'm working on a project right now PHASEBO and I

891
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: already got all the scripts, so I know what's going

892
00:48:25,560 --> 00:48:28,560
Speaker 1: to happen in the beginning to end, but working on

893
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: the Wire, it was per episode, so I didn't know

894
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 1: which one. Do you prefer? I prefer It doesn't really

895
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: make a difference to me. I mean, like because when

896
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: it's a screenplay a film, I get the entire script

897
00:48:46,200 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: and I enjoy it. I know at the beginning to end,

898
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:50,400
Speaker 1: but I approach it the way I approach it. But

899
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,719
Speaker 1: so for me, it doesn't make a difference. I prefer both,

900
00:48:54,840 --> 00:48:57,239
Speaker 1: which everyone works best, you know, But but I have

901
00:48:57,320 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 1: to say I enjoyed reading everything and knowing what's going

902
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: on from the beginning to gad, so I would prefer that.

903
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: And you know, a lot of the stars in the Wire.

904
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,200
Speaker 1: They were English like when they came over, just trying

905
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 1: to immerse themselves in Baltimore and that culture. How I

906
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 1: guess even more challenging for those guys to be able

907
00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 1: to do them. What did you think though, when you

908
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:23,040
Speaker 1: these guys would have their English accent and then all

909
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:24,680
Speaker 1: of a sudden they would go into their dialogue and

910
00:49:24,719 --> 00:49:27,960
Speaker 1: the Wire, and You're like, they transformed themselves into Stringer Bell.

911
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: I would just say, Dad, let's dude as talented it

912
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,520
Speaker 1: just Dominique West, even my guy that played the Mayor

913
00:49:35,600 --> 00:49:38,080
Speaker 1: cars ed it. I would just look at them and

914
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:44,319
Speaker 1: just respect their level of dedication, you know, because once

915
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 1: the cameras are off, they're back into their mate, you know.

916
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,120
Speaker 1: And I was like, oh, man, I like that. But

917
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 1: you're young at the time. I mean, you're really new

918
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,759
Speaker 1: to this business. I'm new to the business, but in

919
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 1: regards to training and knowing what it takes to actually

920
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:04,000
Speaker 1: do what is to be done, I wasn't new to that,

921
00:50:04,760 --> 00:50:06,520
Speaker 1: so I knew that it took a certain amount of

922
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:11,440
Speaker 1: level of discipline, consistency and dedication to get there. You know, Um,

923
00:50:12,239 --> 00:50:15,000
Speaker 1: who scared you? What characters scared you on I made

924
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,399
Speaker 1: you a little nervous on the wire. What characters made

925
00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 1: me a little nervous on the wire? Me, Jamie Hector? Yeah,

926
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:27,320
Speaker 1: or okay. The calcar that made me nervous on the

927
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: wire was um Snoop seemed real, No, Snoop Snoop was riddle, right,

928
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:38,800
Speaker 1: Snoop was riddle. But the character that scared me was

929
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:51,959
Speaker 1: um Isaiah Whitlock. She know a person that you can't

930
00:50:52,000 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 1: trap in the corner. He's the only one that you

931
00:50:54,400 --> 00:50:58,040
Speaker 1: can't trap in the corner. He can make, he can destroy,

932
00:50:58,320 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: he can build, can he can just dismantle you. And

933
00:51:02,719 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 1: he knows how to sell light bulbs. You know, remember

934
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:10,080
Speaker 1: that scene where he told a string of bell like, look, man,

935
00:51:10,160 --> 00:51:12,279
Speaker 1: I'm giving you a deal, man a deal. You know

936
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna put up all these light bults in the

937
00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: entire Board of Education. That's that's a dude that you

938
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:21,080
Speaker 1: gotta look up. He's gared. He was so good, so good.

939
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:24,160
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, as a politician. We're talking to Jamie Hector.

940
00:51:24,360 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 1: He plays uh, I got a variety of roles, but

941
00:51:27,239 --> 00:51:29,840
Speaker 1: he was Jay Edgar in the seventh and final season

942
00:51:29,880 --> 00:51:32,920
Speaker 1: of Bosh. No spoiler alert here, but I do think

943
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,360
Speaker 1: we're going to see a spinoff. Will you be involved

944
00:51:35,400 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: in the spinoff with Bob Well, I'm not sure yet.

945
00:51:39,239 --> 00:51:41,960
Speaker 1: I wasn't giving the word, but I'm looking forward to

946
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,719
Speaker 1: seeing it. You now you're being coin there's no, I

947
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,960
Speaker 1: don't know there is a spinoff, but I'm not too

948
00:51:49,040 --> 00:51:51,600
Speaker 1: sure where I sent in the spinoff? Yeah, because there's

949
00:51:51,640 --> 00:51:53,840
Speaker 1: I got some questions still left for your character. I

950
00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,279
Speaker 1: don't think we wrapped everything up in season seven there.

951
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, you've got some issues still going on

952
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:01,800
Speaker 1: there Jedge. I mean, they don't just go away right. No.

953
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,399
Speaker 1: Especially and by the way, if you if you haven't

954
00:52:05,400 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: seen Bosh, Bosh has this unbelievable crib. It's it's spectacular

955
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,200
Speaker 1: and uh, he's always got jazz playing and uh, you

956
00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:17,120
Speaker 1: know his daughter Maddie. But have you been in to

957
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,040
Speaker 1: uh to Harry's crib there in the whoever that is

958
00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:24,040
Speaker 1: in the hills. Yeah, no, I have. I have. Um on,

959
00:52:24,560 --> 00:52:26,359
Speaker 1: I think it's season four, right. I went to visit

960
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:30,640
Speaker 1: him in regards to somebody that shot his wife, So

961
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:34,359
Speaker 1: I brought some information to him over there. Then um

962
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 1: on one or two occasions, then it was a shootout

963
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 1: that came to assassinate him over there, and then myself

964
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:42,560
Speaker 1: and um Robertson we went over there to go and

965
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:46,120
Speaker 1: help him out. So yeah, on several occasions, I realized

966
00:52:46,160 --> 00:52:48,359
Speaker 1: that you were in. He got game, not a big role,

967
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: so I had to go back and see if I

968
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,160
Speaker 1: could find you, and he got game. I think you

969
00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,920
Speaker 1: had two lines and he got game. Hey Jesus, I

970
00:52:56,000 --> 00:52:58,920
Speaker 1: love you, Jesus, I love you, Jesus, Jesus, can you

971
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:02,120
Speaker 1: help me? I was some money man, come on something man, Yeah, yeah,

972
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I didn't forget that was Spike and he

973
00:53:05,480 --> 00:53:12,359
Speaker 1: can't listen. I'm in um unholding and I'm like, man,

974
00:53:12,480 --> 00:53:14,239
Speaker 1: this is how they treat the extras and holding. It

975
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: was just one apple, right, I'm standing over there, and

976
00:53:18,080 --> 00:53:20,279
Speaker 1: then the Spike comes and he just looks and he's

977
00:53:20,320 --> 00:53:23,880
Speaker 1: just like, choose him and him? And I was like,

978
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,239
Speaker 1: what am I doing? And then he basically gave me

979
00:53:26,280 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: those lines. He said, I need you to come over

980
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:31,480
Speaker 1: here and just tell this dude how much you love him. Basically,

981
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,960
Speaker 1: you're like a leech trying to leech on a basketball

982
00:53:36,000 --> 00:53:39,879
Speaker 1: player that just found new success and money. And I'm

983
00:53:39,960 --> 00:53:42,000
Speaker 1: that guy that's over there just begging him for money

984
00:53:42,040 --> 00:53:45,359
Speaker 1: and him, and yeah, I was excited. Do you tell

985
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:48,239
Speaker 1: your family you're in a movie with Dengel Washington? You

986
00:53:48,280 --> 00:53:53,840
Speaker 1: got you got that right? I'm the star, you know

987
00:53:54,120 --> 00:53:59,360
Speaker 1: that's right. Look Mom, I'm here with He's got a

988
00:53:59,400 --> 00:54:01,440
Speaker 1: few more line and I do, Mom, but you know

989
00:54:02,600 --> 00:54:05,840
Speaker 1: a bigger part. But I'm there. Tell me about the

990
00:54:06,040 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 1: nonprofit theater that you uh, the organization you have there before?

991
00:54:11,360 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 1: Absolutely absolutely organization Dan did in my heart started in

992
00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 1: two thousand and sevens called Moving Mountains. So we we

993
00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:21,720
Speaker 1: developed skills, talents and abilities in youth while building character

994
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:25,480
Speaker 1: purpose because there's not enough of it in our community.

995
00:54:25,760 --> 00:54:29,600
Speaker 1: One two it's just um something I was done for

996
00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: myself growing up. Also, and I feel like, you know,

997
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,160
Speaker 1: if they have the access, the opportunity, then they can

998
00:54:36,239 --> 00:54:38,080
Speaker 1: be great. And we just get out there were a

999
00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: lot of to be great. That's awesome. Uh, Omar coming,

1000
00:54:46,520 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 1: so why not anymore? Omar, Omara kind? I love that character.

1001
00:54:51,800 --> 00:54:54,600
Speaker 1: Omar come trying to tell you yeah, yeah, yeah, Omar coming.

1002
00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do Mike because I know that's you.

1003
00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 1: But no Farmer in the Dell. I think it is

1004
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 1: what he would whistle right far into amazing character, amazing role. Yep, yeah,

1005
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,719
Speaker 1: you did not want omar comming. You did not You

1006
00:55:18,719 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: didn't want to hear that. No, you, Jamie. Congrats on

1007
00:55:23,920 --> 00:55:27,760
Speaker 1: your success. I loved Bosh and uh hopefully Titus finds

1008
00:55:27,760 --> 00:55:30,400
Speaker 1: a role for you in the uh this spinoff here.

1009
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:33,120
Speaker 1: Oh man, thank you so much. Man. I'm excited. We're

1010
00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,920
Speaker 1: working right now. I'm actually headed off to work in

1011
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,640
Speaker 1: Baltimore on a project called We Owned the City also,

1012
00:55:38,800 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: so that's gonna be a suaghbo So that's gonna be

1013
00:55:41,120 --> 00:55:44,719
Speaker 1: pretty cool. Awesome. Thank you, You're welcome. Thank you, brother.

1014
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,719
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1015
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,720
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1017
00:55:54,440 --> 00:55:57,200
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1018
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,719
Speaker 1: and a member of the Phoenix Suns, the former Big

1019
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:03,479
Speaker 1: In National College Player of the Year Frank Kamiski, joining

1020
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:06,040
Speaker 1: us on the program. How was this celebration there? Frank?

1021
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,560
Speaker 1: It was pretty fun. I mean, when you show up

1022
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,480
Speaker 1: to an airport and there's twenty thousand people there, it's

1023
00:56:12,520 --> 00:56:15,439
Speaker 1: pretty wild. If you guys had to play a game

1024
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,120
Speaker 1: the next day after the celebration, what kind of condition.

1025
00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,520
Speaker 1: Would everybody have been in? Oh, would have been fine.

1026
00:56:22,239 --> 00:56:24,680
Speaker 1: I mean there's still not a lot you can do.

1027
00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:27,520
Speaker 1: You know, you get home late, maybe throw a couple

1028
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:31,360
Speaker 1: of beers back, I don't know, a little celebration. I

1029
00:56:31,400 --> 00:56:34,000
Speaker 1: saw nothing too crazy. I saw you chugging a beer

1030
00:56:34,040 --> 00:56:37,759
Speaker 1: in front of the crowd. Yeah, I mean sometimes when

1031
00:56:37,800 --> 00:56:41,239
Speaker 1: they start chatting Frank the tank and things start getting

1032
00:56:41,239 --> 00:56:44,320
Speaker 1: a little wild, you know the people what they want sometimes?

1033
00:56:44,640 --> 00:56:48,839
Speaker 1: Are you watching the Bucks and Hawks? Absolutely? I can't

1034
00:56:48,880 --> 00:56:51,120
Speaker 1: get in playoffs this year. I think it's been great.

1035
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,480
Speaker 1: Do you can you watch as a fan or you

1036
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:58,239
Speaker 1: actually taking mental notes when you're watching. I can't watch

1037
00:56:58,280 --> 00:57:01,520
Speaker 1: as a fan. No, pay too much attention. I watched

1038
00:57:01,560 --> 00:57:05,360
Speaker 1: too much film, study the game too much to just

1039
00:57:06,440 --> 00:57:09,279
Speaker 1: just watch casually. When I start watching, I get really

1040
00:57:09,320 --> 00:57:13,719
Speaker 1: into it, so um yeah, and especially knowing this is

1041
00:57:14,080 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 1: for sure who we're going to be playing one of

1042
00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,760
Speaker 1: those two teams. You watch it even even closer. There's

1043
00:57:20,800 --> 00:57:23,640
Speaker 1: the moment when Patrick Beverley pushes Chris Paul and you're

1044
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 1: right there next to him. Yeah, what do you like?

1045
00:57:27,240 --> 00:57:29,400
Speaker 1: Put us in real time of what you're thinking? What

1046
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: do you see then? What are you thinking? So we

1047
00:57:34,440 --> 00:57:38,000
Speaker 1: obviously went on a run. You know, closeout game emotions

1048
00:57:38,040 --> 00:57:42,160
Speaker 1: are high. We didn't get the job done in Phoenix. Whatever,

1049
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:44,400
Speaker 1: we came out and we played well in the second

1050
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: half of that game. Obviously, there was a lot of

1051
00:57:47,360 --> 00:57:48,840
Speaker 1: chirp in, a lot of reviews, a lot of things

1052
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:52,040
Speaker 1: going on back and forth in that game. Um, Chris

1053
00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: hits a big shot. You know, Chris as a leader. Obviously,

1054
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: emotions were high. I run out like I always do,

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00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:02,080
Speaker 1: stand up the whole game right now, run out like

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00:58:02,120 --> 00:58:04,600
Speaker 1: I always do, just to be a good teammate and

1057
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: get people high fives and do stuff like that. I see,

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00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 1: you know, Pat kind of get a little frustrated and

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00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: some backst known Pat for a long time. We have

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00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,840
Speaker 1: the same major, same trainer in Chicago. UM. It has

1061
00:58:18,840 --> 00:58:23,120
Speaker 1: always been good to me, always been a good mentor. Um. Obviously,

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00:58:23,240 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 1: it looked like he was going to come up to

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00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:27,360
Speaker 1: say something to Chris and then he shoves him. And

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00:58:27,840 --> 00:58:29,360
Speaker 1: you know, we always have this thing with our team

1065
00:58:29,400 --> 00:58:32,480
Speaker 1: where it's it's don't Monty says it all the time.

1066
00:58:32,520 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 1: It says though it just don't react to the silliness.

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00:58:37,160 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: You can see our whole reaction and it was just

1068
00:58:39,800 --> 00:58:43,040
Speaker 1: sure Chris is and then not making sure we do

1069
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 1: something stupid because we knew we were going to be advancing,

1070
00:58:45,600 --> 00:58:49,440
Speaker 1: and you don't want to have something dumb happen. But obviously,

1071
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:52,800
Speaker 1: you know wish that didn't happen. You know, I'm sure

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00:58:52,880 --> 00:58:56,360
Speaker 1: Pat definitely thinks that was laps of judgment on his part,

1073
00:58:57,280 --> 00:58:59,240
Speaker 1: But that's when the emotions are high and you're on

1074
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: a stage like that. You know things like that can happen.

1075
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,720
Speaker 1: How do you how do you hold back not doing anything? Um?

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00:59:07,040 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 1: You know it's tough. You know, I've idiot has their

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00:59:11,000 --> 00:59:14,320
Speaker 1: opinion on what I should. I know I've been doing um,

1078
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:18,760
Speaker 1: But you know you don't, especially you know the position

1079
00:59:18,880 --> 00:59:21,360
Speaker 1: I'm in. You don't want to make things about yourself. Obviously,

1080
00:59:21,480 --> 00:59:23,360
Speaker 1: you want to defend your teammate and do stuff like that.

1081
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:27,440
Speaker 1: But um, you know, if I was out there just

1082
00:59:27,520 --> 00:59:30,320
Speaker 1: throwing haymakers, that'd be a completely different story. You know,

1083
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:33,080
Speaker 1: may may put someone in a situation that's actually playing

1084
00:59:33,120 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: to get fined or suspended or have something stupid happen,

1085
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:38,080
Speaker 1: And you know that would make me feel ten times worse.

1086
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:41,320
Speaker 1: I would have taken Beverly though. I think if you

1087
00:59:41,400 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 1: guys squared off. Frank, I mean no offense. I think

1088
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:47,760
Speaker 1: you're too you're you're you're too tall to be a boxer. Um,

1089
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, I do some I do a lot of

1090
00:59:49,720 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: boxing in the summer. I might surprise you. I have

1091
00:59:52,480 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 1: some reach. Oh I know that. But so you're saying,

1092
00:59:56,120 --> 00:59:58,680
Speaker 1: if if we had you know, these celebrities you're fighting

1093
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 1: now all the time, find two boxing match. Yeah, you

1094
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:05,280
Speaker 1: and Patrick Beverley in the ring. What do you think?

1095
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:13,000
Speaker 1: Um after the season? All right, oh, I'll take myself.

1096
01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:17,160
Speaker 1: All right, PAULI get get ahold of a promoter. So

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01:00:17,280 --> 01:00:22,000
Speaker 1: I got I got Frank the tank against Patrick. Yeah,

1098
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:24,479
Speaker 1: and then the winner gets one of the Jake Paul

1099
01:00:24,560 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 1: or Logan. Paul. I always wanted to ask you this,

1100
01:00:28,400 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: and it's not just you, but it's other players that

1101
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,440
Speaker 1: when you have all this success in college and then

1102
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:34,600
Speaker 1: you go to the pros and you were a high

1103
01:00:34,680 --> 01:00:36,760
Speaker 1: draft pick and now you become a role player, Like

1104
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:40,760
Speaker 1: what that does to your ego or how do you

1105
01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:43,920
Speaker 1: compartmentalize that that you used to be the man at

1106
01:00:43,960 --> 01:00:46,560
Speaker 1: Wisconsin and a big you know, the college player of

1107
01:00:46,560 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 1: the year. Now all of a sudden you're on the bench. Yeah,

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01:00:51,360 --> 01:00:54,680
Speaker 1: I mean it's definitely difficult. UM. There's a lot to

1109
01:00:54,800 --> 01:00:57,720
Speaker 1: adjust to. UM. But when you're on a team like

1110
01:00:57,840 --> 01:01:00,560
Speaker 1: this and you're playing on the best team your career,

1111
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:03,280
Speaker 1: all that kind of takes a backburner to the whole

1112
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:05,680
Speaker 1: team success. You know, we have a great culture with

1113
01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,840
Speaker 1: our team, and obviously I'd love to be playing. You know,

1114
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:11,760
Speaker 1: that's just the competitive side of me. You know, every

1115
01:01:11,840 --> 01:01:13,120
Speaker 1: time we get into a game, I want to go

1116
01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:14,960
Speaker 1: out there and I want to play. And I think

1117
01:01:15,000 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: that's the overwhelming majority of the NBA. You know, the

1118
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: five people can be on the court at the time

1119
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: and not everybody's gonna play, and obviously there's gonna be

1120
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 1: situations where you have to keep yourself ready. You never

1121
01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:30,520
Speaker 1: know what can happen, you know, And that's kind of

1122
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 1: kind of been my mentality this year. You know. I

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01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: started off this season at home by myself after getting

1124
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: waived by the Kings and didn't really have anything, and

1125
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:40,880
Speaker 1: then I got the call from Phoenix that they wanted

1126
01:01:40,920 --> 01:01:44,400
Speaker 1: to bring me back. So everything for me this year

1127
01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:50,480
Speaker 1: has been huge change in mentality. You know, I started

1128
01:01:50,480 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: off this season literally nothing, so amusing the position. Going

1129
01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: to the NBA finals gonna be on a team and

1130
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:00,640
Speaker 1: I've contributed to points of the season that I'm proud

1131
01:02:00,680 --> 01:02:02,080
Speaker 1: of where I am and I'm proud of this team

1132
01:02:02,120 --> 01:02:04,800
Speaker 1: and I'm proud of what we're doing. But also like,

1133
01:02:05,120 --> 01:02:09,080
Speaker 1: how do you feel when the Kings let you go? Um?

1134
01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:12,560
Speaker 1: You know that was tough. You know, I started out

1135
01:02:13,360 --> 01:02:20,640
Speaker 1: free agency last year, nobody was calling, wasn't allogens, took

1136
01:02:20,680 --> 01:02:22,920
Speaker 1: an I'm guaranteed deal with Sacramento and they ended up

1137
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:28,840
Speaker 1: waving me after the preseason, and I mean, i'd say

1138
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 1: that's a low point for me, but you know, obviously

1139
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:36,320
Speaker 1: did enough last year with Phoenix and made enough good

1140
01:02:36,360 --> 01:02:38,720
Speaker 1: relationships that they felt it good enough to bring me back.

1141
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:40,720
Speaker 1: And like I said, I felt like I've contributed a

1142
01:02:40,760 --> 01:02:42,760
Speaker 1: lot of different points throughout the season. So that's something

1143
01:02:42,800 --> 01:02:46,320
Speaker 1: I'm really proud of to start mentally, to start the

1144
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,920
Speaker 1: season off with nothing in being the position I'm in,

1145
01:02:49,120 --> 01:02:53,520
Speaker 1: it's been. It's been great for me. Well congratulations, because

1146
01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: that's where you get down and then you wonder, Okay,

1147
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:57,200
Speaker 1: now what am I going to do with my life?

1148
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: Nobody's nobody's going You could have a ring in a

1149
01:02:59,640 --> 01:03:04,000
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Pretty amazing pretty amazing. It's it's wild

1150
01:03:04,080 --> 01:03:06,960
Speaker 1: and I definitely knew coming into the season that we

1151
01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 1: were going to be in this position. You know, our

1152
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:10,880
Speaker 1: team was good, we had a lot of guys who

1153
01:03:10,920 --> 01:03:12,560
Speaker 1: were on the rise, and you know, it's just something

1154
01:03:12,600 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: I wanted to be a part of. Like I said,

1155
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:18,200
Speaker 1: the culture here is amazing. Well, congratulate Frank, and good

1156
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: luck with whoever you play, and hopefully you get an

1157
01:03:20,960 --> 01:03:27,080
Speaker 1: opportunity and the next time somebody push pushes Chris Paul, no,

1158
01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,640
Speaker 1: don't do anything, even though social like social media roughed

1159
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:32,880
Speaker 1: you up and they're like, come on, like they're not

1160
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:34,720
Speaker 1: the ones who gets suspended or have to pay a

1161
01:03:34,840 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: fine exactly, all right, Yeah, and you know I'm not

1162
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,440
Speaker 1: really you know, I'd be the first to say I'm not.

1163
01:03:43,520 --> 01:03:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm not really much of a fighter. So um, you know,

1164
01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:49,640
Speaker 1: I'm just happy we want and we'll go with that.

1165
01:03:49,720 --> 01:03:51,919
Speaker 1: I'm happy we wanted. I'm happy Chris is fine. Yeah,

1166
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:54,320
Speaker 1: we'll go with that. Hey, thank you, Frank, great to

1167
01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:57,600
Speaker 1: talk to you again, and good luck. Thank you appreciate it.

1168
01:03:57,640 --> 01:04:01,280
Speaker 1: And that's Frank Kamiski. Or to catch the live edition

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01:04:01,320 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 1: of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern

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01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:08,360
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