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Speaker 3: Well, and we're quickly going to kick Patrick off the

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Speaker 3: show start but no, gentlemen, thanks for being here. It's

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Speaker 3: a nice cozy evening. Chris Beam is in the front

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Speaker 3: here holding it down for us. Thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for spending some of your Sunday night here with us, fellas.

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Speaker 3: First time that we're on air. After the Cowboys preseason

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Speaker 3: opener last night against the Los Angeles Rams, a thirty

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Speaker 3: one to twenty one loss in Brian Schottenheimer's debut we'll

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Speaker 3: start with just overall quick thoughts. Derek, I'll go start

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Speaker 3: with you to start.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I've done a lot of preseason games in my time,

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Speaker 4: so for me, I look at it and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: it's just a game. You get through it. You try

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Speaker 4: to get a few injuries as possible.

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Speaker 5: These days, especially in the.

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Speaker 4: Preseason, most the vast majority of the guys that were

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Speaker 4: playing last night for either team probably won't be getting

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Speaker 4: meaningful snaps once the season begins. They're only a handful

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Speaker 4: that will. And I thought some of those guys, I

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Speaker 4: thought we saw some positive things from them, people like marsliafoul,

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Speaker 4: but a lot of those guys, they just unless something

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Speaker 4: drastically changes between now and the time we get to

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Speaker 4: the season, likelihood have been playing a lot isn't very high.

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Speaker 4: So you just try to get through the game. You

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Speaker 4: try to work on some things, knowing that again a

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Speaker 4: lot of what they're going on show is not going

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Speaker 4: to be the stuff that they'll even be doing during

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Speaker 4: the regular season. So I don't take too much from

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Speaker 4: it other than you know, you look at a couple

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Speaker 4: of individual performances, and I thought some of the guys

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Speaker 4: that needed to do well did, and some of the

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Speaker 4: guys that probably needed to show a little bit more

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Speaker 4: may not have.

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Speaker 3: At thirty seven was the count of total players that

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Speaker 3: did not play yesterday, whether it be sitting out or

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Speaker 3: with injury. Patrick, what did you.

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Speaker 2: Think, Well, I'm with Derek in the fact that wins

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Speaker 2: lost this preseason. I don't care like I could not

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Speaker 2: care less about wins and losses. For me, it's about

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Speaker 2: evaluating individuals and for a Cowboys team that suffered so

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Speaker 2: greatly as far as injuries and then thereafter depth because

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Speaker 2: of the injuries, That's what I was looking for. And

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Speaker 2: there were some positions like wide receiver for example, which

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Speaker 2: we'll get into. I like the depth a lot that

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Speaker 2: I'm seeing at wide receiver. But when you start talking about,

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Speaker 2: you know how things looked on the defensive interior depth wise,

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Speaker 2: that didn't look great. Cornerback wise is the Mukwambu's interception. Notwithstanding,

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Speaker 2: there were some struggles there as well. So those positions

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Speaker 6: And I'm gonna take Derek one more step further when

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Speaker 6: he said a lot of these guys won't get snaps.

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Speaker 5: A lot of them won't be on this team.

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Speaker 4: So I was trying to say, leave it to me.

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Speaker 3: Right out of the window.

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Speaker 2: Such filter.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's like wins, losses, it doesn't matter. You're looking

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Speaker 6: with all the backups. They're gonna play with guys that

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Speaker 6: have talent out their starters, right. Uh So yeah, it's

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Speaker 6: hard to judge. And I know people get all excited

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Speaker 5: So I think I.

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Speaker 6: Counted, uh maybe three guys that could possibly start played

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Speaker 2: That's half your roster.

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Speaker 6: Right if you get to fifty three really so yeah,

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Speaker 3: They take on Baltimore at AT and T Stadium. We'll

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Speaker 3: get to that a little bit later. But you mentioned

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Speaker 3: and really you think about the preseason in general, younger

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Speaker 3: most anticipated player going into last night because he's only

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Speaker 3: last year in the preseason he only played in three games,

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Speaker 3: and Joe Milton seems to be okay. But good and

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Speaker 4: Yeah, the good was I think at some point, probably

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Speaker 4: after the game and talked about how, you know, really

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Speaker 4: And so but I do think as a game war on,

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Speaker 3: Mickey and I were talking before this just about how

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Speaker 3: the play that stands out to me, I don't know

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Speaker 6: And what did you think for Yeah, you know, I

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Speaker 6: what was that I said that about Trey Lance? You know,

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Speaker 6: now because once the season starts, you don't get any

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Speaker 4: Real quick, I'll ask this question. I can't get out

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Speaker 2: As you said that, it was interesting.

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Speaker 4: It was interesting because I've heard a number of media

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Speaker 4: people as we're just talking watching practice, I've heard a

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Speaker 4: there is an appreciable difference between those two players? Because

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Speaker 4: is there an appreciable difference. I think there's a difference

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Speaker 2: Joe Milton has a cannon. We know that what we

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Speaker 2: don't know what we need to see is that the

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Speaker 2: consistent ability to put touch on the ball the player

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Speaker 2: you're talking about deep cross of to Ryan Flinoy. That

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Speaker 2: was one play. The other another. I'm gonna say the

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Speaker 2: All you have to do is just lay that up

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Speaker 2: Ryan Flinoy. He sells it, it goes out of the

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Speaker 2: concern is it's not an aberration because we've seen this

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Speaker 2: You saw that again. Consistency in doing so, that's the point.

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Speaker 2: You know he can do it. Yeah, consistency in doing so.

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Speaker 5: That's it, and.

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Speaker 5: Oh no, it's too early too.

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Speaker 5: Now that's it.

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Speaker 6: His snaps are over and he's the third quarterback and

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Speaker 6: there's no development going on. I think you got to

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Speaker 2: Pretty like a page or two.

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Speaker 2: I don't think so.

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Speaker 4: Whether he's so, whether he's ready right now to be

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Speaker 6: But you know, we've seen this before from Elik Davis.

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Speaker 2: The big part is what are they gonna do on

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Speaker 2: That's why right now I don't know that we've seen.

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Speaker 2: Is gonna look And that's the challenge for Phil MafA

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Speaker 2: What are you gonna do with them? Phil MafA was

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Speaker 2: it back and say, well, if it's three games of

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Speaker 2: that of total of fifteen to twenty special team snaps,

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Speaker 2: that's not enough to gauge what he can or cannot

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Speaker 2: be on special team. So that's the other side of

441
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Speaker 2: the coin when it comes to philm Offfa. Because it

442
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Speaker 2: looked great on offense, showed a lot of potential, showed

443
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Speaker 2: great vision, showed the ability to physical, you know, out

444
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Speaker 2: physical another guy, which is one of his green flags

445
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Speaker 2: coming out of Clemson, looked good in space, looked decisive.

446
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Speaker 2: He got up and down instead of you know, trying

447
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Speaker 2: to run east and west. But that's offense, Like Derek

448
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Speaker 2: is saying, once you get down to RB three and below,

449
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Speaker 2: special teams is going to be a key part of it.

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Speaker 3: And we've we've seen film offa a little bit working

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Speaker 3: with special team. Yeah, in practice now only Davis, that'll

452
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Speaker 3: be the question for the running back room. Some other standouts.

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Speaker 3: I thought Trey Shawn Holden.

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Speaker 2: That was one of my groo out here too. Yeah,

455
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Speaker 2: practice too. Yeah he transferred it, Yeah he did.

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Speaker 3: And then Rivaldo Fairweather the tight end, if you know,

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Speaker 3: and down the line. Now when you're asked the trivia

458
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Speaker 3: question of who who caught Joe Milton's first touchdown pass

459
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Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, there's revolta Fairweather.

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Speaker 4: They got a lot of tight ends just kind of

461
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Speaker 4: packed all in there together, and.

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Speaker 3: They didn't have a lot of them playing yesterday. Jake

463
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Speaker 3: Ferguson was out, Uh, Hunter Lipke was out, so it

464
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Speaker 3: was a pretty fan didn't play either. I don't think

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Speaker 3: person fan didn't which I was kind of surprised by that.

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Speaker 6: He is he injured last practice, he didn't practice.

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Speaker 3: I think there might be an injury there.

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Speaker 6: There's an injury there. And then you know, everybody was

469
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Speaker 6: big on Brevin's span and he was having a nice

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Speaker 6: start to camp anywhere, and then at least he's out

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Speaker 6: of his boot.

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Speaker 5: But who knows when he's going to be healthy, so they.

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Speaker 2: They there.

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Speaker 6: If these guys don't start getting healthy, there's only so

475
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Speaker 6: many guys that you can say, hey, we're cutting you,

476
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Speaker 6: so we can put these guys on IR. Just sit there,

477
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Speaker 6: and then twenty four hours later, we're signing you back,

478
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Speaker 6: so we can put this guy on IR return. But

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Speaker 6: how many of those guys, you know, if you let

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Speaker 6: somebody go, you know, you do a deal with seeing

481
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Speaker 6: you know they've done that before. Anger he's not going anywhere,

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Speaker 6: But now who else can you just say, well, sit

483
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Speaker 6: there and some team comes by and goes, well, claim,

484
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Speaker 6: you know, I'm gonna give you some money.

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Speaker 3: Here now, right.

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Speaker 6: So so yeah, that's gonna be the difficult part, especially

487
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Speaker 6: if you're still sitting there with Digs, not knowing if

488
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Speaker 6: he's ready to go. You know, they can't do it

489
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Speaker 6: with Micah at some you know, some point that'll get done.

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Speaker 6: But there's guys like that, you know, Revel, you know,

491
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Speaker 6: so they got guys you want to keep, but if

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Speaker 6: they can't help you the first month of the season,

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Speaker 6: you kind of kind of put them on an ir

494
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Speaker 6: return and that's kind of a headache.

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Speaker 2: Now to Tommy's point as far as bringing up holding,

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Speaker 2: and I'm glad you did because it circles back to

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Speaker 2: my point. We talk when we will talk about and

498
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Speaker 2: we've had concerns with defensive tackle, cornerback man. This wide

499
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Speaker 2: receiver room is such an embarrassment of riches right now.

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Speaker 2: I mean when you have a guy like Treyshon Hold,

501
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Speaker 2: an undrafted free agent out of Oregon, He's reunited with

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Speaker 2: Junior Adams, or I should say he followed Junior Adams

503
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Speaker 2: because this is Junior's versus year here with the Cowboys.

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Speaker 2: To be able to come into a game with limited

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Speaker 2: reps in the back end of the fourth quarter and

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Speaker 2: just do what he's been doing almost every day out

507
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Speaker 2: here at camp, which is created highlight Ryan Flinoy year two, right,

508
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Speaker 2: I mean, his ability to separate has improved over year one.

509
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Speaker 2: His confidence has improved, over year one. His physicality has

510
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Speaker 2: improved over year one. I can't stress enough that double

511
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Speaker 2: move was a thing of beauty. May not have been

512
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Speaker 2: something that we saw from Ryan Flinoy as a rookie,

513
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Speaker 2: as he was kind of working through confidence thing. So

514
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Speaker 2: when you look at the top end of that depth

515
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Speaker 2: chart and then you get to the middle, and in

516
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Speaker 2: the middle is Cavante Turpin staring you right in the

517
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Speaker 2: face because he's absolutely making the team, then the question becomes, well,

518
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Speaker 2: is it Treyshawn holding versus Ryan FLINOI versus you know,

519
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Speaker 2: can Jalen Cropper make a run? Jalen Brooks obviously, who

520
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Speaker 2: also has some NFL games under his belt as well,

521
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Speaker 2: and impactful reps in those NFL games on short notice

522
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Speaker 2: when he was thrown into the game as a rookie

523
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Speaker 2: in games player or as a rookie do the injury.

524
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Speaker 2: So that wide receiver room, including holding, it is fun

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Speaker 2: to watch.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the fact matter is I honestly I

527
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Speaker 4: will want I will be interested to see n Tobert,

528
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Speaker 4: of course, but I would be interested to see how

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Speaker 4: much does this this coaching staff really lean on the

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Speaker 4: competition that they say, because if you look at it,

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Speaker 4: you would assume that. Tobert, you would assume that, mingo,

532
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Speaker 4: I'm probably gonna make this team. So now you're already

533
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Speaker 4: five deep. Like for all those other guys you mentioned

534
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Speaker 4: that have had pretty good camps doing something in in

535
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Speaker 4: these preseason games, if you're gonna go with six, that

536
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Speaker 4: means you only got one spot. Or is it a

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Speaker 4: possibility that one of those guys can jump up and

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Speaker 4: maybe take one of those guys that are in the

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Speaker 4: wide receiver four and five spots and move them down.

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Speaker 4: That's a hard thing to expect, But that's when you

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Speaker 4: start wondering, like is the competition factor, Like is it real?

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Speaker 4: Is it a real competition or is it kind of

543
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Speaker 4: like we want to see we want to see how

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Speaker 4: you do. But at the same time, like we kind

545
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Speaker 4: of know who.

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Speaker 2: Our guys are.

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Speaker 4: And by the way, part of that is we know

548
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,840
Speaker 4: we can trust certain guys. They've been in the fire tope.

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Speaker 4: It's been in the fire right, So so regardless of

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Speaker 4: maybe what you see out here and what you see

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Speaker 4: from other people out here, it does factory and what's

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Speaker 4: the history, and the history says last year he let

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Speaker 4: you in touchdown, So you know that's my problem.

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Speaker 6: Trade trade bait, because think about the guys you just mentioned.

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Speaker 6: You cut him, you're not gonna get him on the

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Speaker 6: practice squad. I guarantee you, like full nooy, he's not

557
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Speaker 6: gonna make it the practice squad.

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Speaker 5: Jaalen Brooks might not.

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Speaker 4: The one thing I want to say that The one

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Speaker 4: thing I will to say about that, Mickey is I

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Speaker 4: have seen a number of times when we're out here

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Speaker 4: at training camp and we're at this point in training

563
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Speaker 4: camp and we're like, oh my god, there's no way

564
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Speaker 4: you're gonna get this guy back if you if you

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Speaker 4: cut him, and there's no way youre gonna get this guy.

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Speaker 4: And then the trade the cuts come, and then everybody

567
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Speaker 4: makes their claims and then law and behold, all those

568
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Speaker 4: guys you were worried about end up coming other teams.

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Speaker 4: Other teams have guys that show their training camp and

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Speaker 4: they were like, oh, this guy was great. So I

571
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Speaker 4: really think, especially at the wide receiver position, what I've

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Speaker 4: seen from history is that a lot of times those

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Speaker 4: guys that have great camps, you can get those guys.

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Speaker 2: Ready to your point. Being A glaring example of that

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Speaker 2: is Malite Davis in his first year, there was so

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Speaker 2: much of the fandom that were like, oh no, the Cowboys, absolutely,

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Speaker 2: you cannot cut Malie Davis. He will not clear waivers.

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Speaker 2: And they waived them. He cleared waivers. And I literally

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Speaker 2: watched social media all say the same thing and nearly

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Speaker 2: the same time, Wow, didn't expect that. To your point, how.

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Speaker 6: You know it happened? I want to say it happened

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Speaker 6: last year with Jalen Cropper. Yeah, he was a star,

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Speaker 6: but then the lights came on and it's like, where's

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Speaker 6: that same guy? And he was another guy that you

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Speaker 6: know you got something, but he made it to the

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: It is an interesting balancing act of weighing what you

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Speaker 3: All Right, Fellas we've talked about the offense in the

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Speaker 3: some of us do, is it would be starters on

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00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 3: both sides of the ball. So when you look at

656
00:30:10,000 --> 00:30:12,000
Speaker 3: that one hundred and eighty one yard staring at you,

657
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 3: and you think about the history that this team has

658
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 3: had in recent years and struggling to stop the run, Patrick,

659
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 3: does it concern you?

660
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 2: It does, And the reason it concerns me is not

661
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 2: necessarily for the reason it concerns some fans right now.

662
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,640
Speaker 2: Some fans are probably looking at it from the context of, oh,

663
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:29,880
Speaker 2: what is us? The Cowboys can't stop the run. I

664
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 2: get the connection from the previous to the now in

665
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: that regard, but the reason it concerns me is going

666
00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: back to what I said at the top of the show, depth.

667
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 2: I'm concerned about the depth on this team, particularly when

668
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 2: you talk about the defensive line, cornerbacks, how they struggled

669
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: in coverage for the most part. But who do you

670
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 2: have behind Osodigi Zuwa Solomon Thomas. You're trying to figure

671
00:30:54,520 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 2: that out. Those are your two interior defensive linemen that

672
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: I feel going into the season. We know what Osa

673
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:01,480
Speaker 2: can be. Osa can be just dominant impact. He has

674
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 2: all pro potential. We just wait for him to tap

675
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,720
Speaker 2: into that particular level of it. But Solomon Solomon looks

676
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: like he's peak right now, just absolute peak. Solomon Thomas great.

677
00:31:12,760 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: Outside of that, where's waiting to see Mazi take the

678
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 2: next step? Okay, We're waiting to see if the rookie

679
00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:22,560
Speaker 2: j Toya can translate because j Toya he's been having

680
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,560
Speaker 2: some flashes out here in camp that did not translate

681
00:31:25,720 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 2: against the Rams yesterday. So for a team that has

682
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 2: been so snake bitting over the past couple of years,

683
00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 2: last year, especially at several almost all positions. For me

684
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 2: to see a game like the Rams against the Rams

685
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:43,280
Speaker 2: where your depth pieces have trouble upholding a standard that

686
00:31:43,480 --> 00:31:45,280
Speaker 2: you are going to try to hang your hat on.

687
00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:49,400
Speaker 2: Defending the run and getting after the opposing quarterback. Both

688
00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 2: of those things were kind of lacking yesterday, and that's

689
00:31:51,640 --> 00:31:52,800
Speaker 2: where my concern is rued.

690
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:53,480
Speaker 3: Let me touch.

691
00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:55,800
Speaker 6: Maybe this will make you feel better.

692
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: Please make me feel better, Mick.

693
00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:02,080
Speaker 6: All those backups eight playing together, right, You're gonna one

694
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,920
Speaker 6: guy's gotta go in and play next to Solomon Thomas. Right,

695
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,600
Speaker 6: he's not next to Perry and Winfrey. Uh, he's not

696
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 6: next to Toya. I want all those guys. He's gonna

697
00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,720
Speaker 6: have some veteran linebackers behind.

698
00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 3: Them, I hope.

699
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:19,239
Speaker 2: But again, look at the injury list from last year year.

700
00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 5: I understand, I understand.

701
00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,160
Speaker 4: Here's my concern though, Mickey, to your point, what my

702
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:27,320
Speaker 4: concern is is when we saw the Rams out here

703
00:32:27,360 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 4: practicing against the Cowboys, we saw similar things. Now that

704
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 4: concern and the starters were out there during that practice

705
00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 4: and we saw a similar thing. They were running pretty

706
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,600
Speaker 4: effortlessly the Cowboys, and that's that's where I'm more concerned

707
00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 4: about it. More so than the preseason game. I'm more

708
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 4: concerned watching that practice that it looked like they were

709
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 4: having some issues stopping the run. And that's where I

710
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,800
Speaker 4: start wondering, is this a situation of personnel or is

711
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:54,960
Speaker 4: this a situation where they just haven't quite quite gotten

712
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 4: the hang of the scheme of what they're being asked

713
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 4: to do, because we that sometimes with a new coach

714
00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,560
Speaker 4: brings in a new scheme, he's asking to do different things,

715
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:07,920
Speaker 4: and the adaptation period this may last a little while

716
00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 4: getting guys acclimated to what they're asking them to do

717
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 4: if it's a big departure from what they were doing

718
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,960
Speaker 4: last year. So that's where I'm a little bit more concerned.

719
00:33:15,000 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 4: Is more about the practice. I saw a similar thing

720
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,480
Speaker 4: happen in practice when the.

721
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:19,240
Speaker 5: Starters were out there.

722
00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:20,960
Speaker 6: Well, maybe it was a good thing that I didn't

723
00:33:21,000 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 6: watch the defense.

724
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 3: Well, I'll say this just a couple of quick points

725
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 3: I think, and I'll not not to combat you completely

726
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 3: on this, but I thought the defense was better against

727
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 3: the run than I thought they were going to be

728
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:36,360
Speaker 3: in the joint practice. In the joint practice, I should

729
00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 3: please yes, no, yes, let me.

730
00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 2: Be honest with you. I didn't watch the whole thing

731
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: because I was moving back.

732
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: There was a part when I was over there and

733
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,840
Speaker 4: it seemed like every few minutes they were just you know,

734
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 4: rising right through.

735
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 3: That was highlighted by that long run by Karen Williams.

736
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 3: But I thought for the most part, and I'm not

737
00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: saying they were you know, piling up tackles for loss.

738
00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 3: They weren't doing that. There, weren't dominant in run defense whatsoever.

739
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:00,560
Speaker 3: But I thought they did better than I thought they

740
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 3: would with their starting unit. Was that good in the

741
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 3: joint necessarily in the joint practice speaking relativity, relatively, yes,

742
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,600
Speaker 3: And as far as the preseason game goes, just sifting

743
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,279
Speaker 3: through the numbers. Earlier this morning, Jay to Leo was

744
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 3: double teamed on, which is more that he's doing his job.

745
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 3: I think my concern lines up in if he's doing

746
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 3: his job and he's got two guys trying to block him, well,

747
00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:28,440
Speaker 3: then your linebackers have to come up and fill those gaps.

748
00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:30,040
Speaker 3: You got to fill the running lands, or you've got

749
00:34:30,080 --> 00:34:32,239
Speaker 3: to have somebody step up next to you. I don't

750
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: think that was happening. I'm not saying that I played

751
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 3: a personal game, but if he's doing his part, your

752
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,200
Speaker 3: front seven has to do the rest around him.

753
00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:42,520
Speaker 4: I did find myself saying a couple of times, and again,

754
00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 4: I haven't watched the film, so that's why I'm a

755
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,319
Speaker 4: little bit like, you want to watch the film to

756
00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,080
Speaker 4: be able to really see if what you thought you

757
00:34:48,120 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 4: saw was was accurate.

758
00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 2: But there were a number of times in that game

759
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:51,480
Speaker 2: I was.

760
00:34:51,480 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 5: Like, where are the linebackers?

761
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: Yeah, it just seemed like it seemed like there wasn't

762
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 2: a fill.

763
00:34:55,200 --> 00:34:57,600
Speaker 4: It seemed like there was there was a hole that

764
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,919
Speaker 4: had been created, but a linebacker should have been filling

765
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:01,839
Speaker 4: that gap, and it just it didn't seem like.

766
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,800
Speaker 3: Nineteen miss tackles yesterday.

767
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,520
Speaker 6: By the way, you know what the bottom line was,

768
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 6: Cody Schrader was ripping them leading rusher in the SEC.

769
00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:14,120
Speaker 3: That's the Missouri.

770
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:19,120
Speaker 2: Was. I didn't even know what you're talking about, the

771
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:25,680
Speaker 2: guy that was ripping them in the Here we go, Okay, no,

772
00:35:25,760 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 2: because I'll give credit because the Michigan guy was ripping

773
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 2: him in the first right, right, that's from a bulldog.

774
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: But I will say as far as giving roses, because

775
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,640
Speaker 2: we're rightfully talking about the things that need to be

776
00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 2: critiqued coming out of that preseason game. You mentioned both

777
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,200
Speaker 2: both of you guys mentioned linebackers, and I'm glad you did.

778
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: Marys le fil Yeah, everything that we're seeing from him

779
00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,359
Speaker 2: in training camp, which is the potential to be an

780
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,680
Speaker 2: elite linebacker in this game, got turned up a notch

781
00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,800
Speaker 2: in that preseason matchup. I mean, he would the bright spot.

782
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 2: He was filling those lanes, his read, his reaction time

783
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 2: with quickness, speed, physicality, demeanor, leadership and helping the organized

784
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,719
Speaker 2: guys pre snap. He was in the back field. He

785
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:16,920
Speaker 2: was helping stop things at the line of scrimmage. He

786
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: was out on the flats covering guys coming out, as

787
00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,960
Speaker 2: as as receivers out of the back field. Maryus Leafile

788
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 2: can be special, and I do mean special. And I

789
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:29,600
Speaker 2: have to say that because again we're pointing out the

790
00:36:29,680 --> 00:36:32,600
Speaker 2: things that need to be improved upon rightfully so. And

791
00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 2: we've talked about guys like Treysaon Holt and Elite Davis,

792
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,760
Speaker 2: guys who played well Israel mccwambu. But man, Mary's Leafile,

793
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,799
Speaker 2: he stole the show. And I'm really looking forward to

794
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 2: what a combo pack of him and DeMar fionover ahead

795
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,319
Speaker 2: throw hook. Honestly, that that's what I'm waiting to see

796
00:36:49,360 --> 00:36:51,560
Speaker 2: because I love what the Cowboys did this year when

797
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 2: it went out and got Sam Born and went out

798
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,319
Speaker 2: and got murried. I think those two guys will be

799
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 2: very solid for them this year.

800
00:36:57,320 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: But I'm excited future the future look like once they

801
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,480
Speaker 4: can get over shown back and then get get marrissed

802
00:37:04,520 --> 00:37:07,319
Speaker 4: out there more. I am really really excited about what

803
00:37:07,360 --> 00:37:09,760
Speaker 4: this linebacker they may They may be in the situation

804
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,000
Speaker 4: where they will have the two linebackers that you see

805
00:37:12,040 --> 00:37:14,759
Speaker 4: from defenses like San Francisco had the last several years

806
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,560
Speaker 4: when they had green Law there, like with Warner, like

807
00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:21,400
Speaker 4: that was. But I understand when you got two and

808
00:37:21,680 --> 00:37:24,040
Speaker 4: they run and they run and they get to the

809
00:37:24,080 --> 00:37:26,400
Speaker 4: ball and they thump you when they get there. Like,

810
00:37:26,719 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 4: that's what the Cowboys may have if they can get

811
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 4: you know, Overshown healthy and get those two guys out

812
00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 4: there together.

813
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 2: Absolutely.

814
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 6: If I remember about he had three tackles, I think

815
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 6: he only played ten snaps.

816
00:37:37,120 --> 00:37:37,640
Speaker 3: Yeah he will.

817
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,920
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, so do the math, right, he.

818
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:43,840
Speaker 3: Was the best defensive player the Cowboys put out on

819
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 3: the field yesterday, But he was I almost expected it

820
00:37:46,560 --> 00:37:48,680
Speaker 3: to be like, all right, we'll see a couple of drives.

821
00:37:48,800 --> 00:37:50,840
Speaker 3: You take your pads off, you're good, and he was that.

822
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 4: He's probably on a different level than than the other

823
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 4: teams players that were out there at that point.

824
00:37:56,600 --> 00:38:00,920
Speaker 3: I'm not trying to take away start player. He's more

825
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 3: of that kind of player. So you know, you kind

826
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:05,759
Speaker 3: of maybe that's a lofty expectation, but I thought, I figured, Okay,

827
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,120
Speaker 3: if he's going to play in this game, you're probably

828
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,080
Speaker 3: gonna see him flash more often than not. And he did. Nonetheless,

829
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 3: it's always a good sign. But again, he was also

830
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 3: one of the better players the Cowboys put out there yesterday.

831
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 6: But they put three if they go three linebackers, he's one.

832
00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: Of these, so he's a starter.

833
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,000
Speaker 2: To tie it all together, you make an excellent point, Tommy.

834
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: Of course, the expectation is that someone of Leafou's caliber

835
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:32,240
Speaker 2: is going to flash and shine against you know, second

836
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,160
Speaker 2: string guys, second team guys. But we also know that

837
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:39,120
Speaker 2: he shined against the starters as a rookie. So all

838
00:38:39,120 --> 00:38:41,440
Speaker 2: of that goes to say this year to jump for

839
00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:43,000
Speaker 2: Leo file looks very real.

840
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,560
Speaker 4: And I just love his humility, Oh my god, everything

841
00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 4: about this dude. I just really really think he's a

842
00:38:48,080 --> 00:38:50,240
Speaker 4: really good person and really.

843
00:38:50,080 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 2: Really all smiles, so you have to just root for him.

844
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:56,160
Speaker 2: You got miles off the field and just a cycle

845
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 2: on the field, like just a perfect combination.

846
00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:03,000
Speaker 3: That to the fact that good hair too. Yeah, that

847
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:07,120
Speaker 3: great fact that his girlfriend Sonya Satrone is hooping right now.

848
00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:10,879
Speaker 3: For the Washingtonistics in the WNB saw her rocking five.

849
00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,160
Speaker 3: They had thirty five on to day. She is hooping,

850
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,080
Speaker 3: So that's always good to see too. All right, let's

851
00:39:15,120 --> 00:39:18,520
Speaker 3: drop it back a level back to this secondary. All

852
00:39:18,560 --> 00:39:25,239
Speaker 3: but one play yesterday did they come out? But I

853
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,560
Speaker 3: think it's somewhat fair because you look at yesterday all

854
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 3: but one play, the Cowboys were in nickel. One time

855
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600
Speaker 3: they weren't in nickel. What's their biggest question mark the

856
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:39,000
Speaker 3: nickel cornerback? And so that begs the question we've talked

857
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: about the defensive line. Let's marry it together now. If

858
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 3: the Cowboys can't get home with four and again we

859
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,080
Speaker 3: know that yesterday's defensive line was the majority of guys

860
00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 3: who are usually deeper in the depth chart. But if

861
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,880
Speaker 3: they can't get home with four with how they're banged

862
00:39:53,960 --> 00:39:58,040
Speaker 3: up right now at defensive back, is there any level

863
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 3: of confidence that they can get it on the back

864
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: end and coverage when you've got five defensive backs out there.

865
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,480
Speaker 4: Yeah, here's my biggest problem with what I saw yesterday

866
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:12,000
Speaker 4: is right now, Andrew Booth. If these injuries don't clear up,

867
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:15,680
Speaker 4: they may have to use him to start the season.

868
00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:17,400
Speaker 4: They may have to use him to start the season.

869
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 4: And he was having some troubles out there yesterday. Several

870
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:23,520
Speaker 4: troubles here. Yeah, he haes And again that's again I'm

871
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,440
Speaker 4: not trying to kill the young man. I think at

872
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 4: the end of the day, that's just I think that's

873
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,800
Speaker 4: an area where I am really concerned because again, what

874
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 4: I was talking about the show at the beginning of

875
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 4: the show is you look at guys and you say, Okay,

876
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:37,600
Speaker 4: what are they gonna be asked to do? Once we

877
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:39,880
Speaker 4: get to week one, Week two, week three of the season.

878
00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,800
Speaker 4: For a lot of these guys, they won't be actually

879
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:43,319
Speaker 4: asked to do much, So you don't worry too much

880
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:46,080
Speaker 4: about what you saw. Booth might be in a position

881
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:48,800
Speaker 4: where they actually have to use him. And that's where

882
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 4: I'm a bit concerned is against guys that he was

883
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,080
Speaker 4: playing yesterday that are not probably going to again probably

884
00:40:56,080 --> 00:40:58,759
Speaker 4: won't be playing a lot in the NFL Week one,

885
00:40:59,280 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 4: he was having some struggles imagine against that receiving cores

886
00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 4: in Philadelphia. Yeah, so that that concerns me quite a bit.

887
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:11,440
Speaker 2: And it really should because that was the position. And

888
00:41:11,480 --> 00:41:13,600
Speaker 2: Tommy and I we've talked about this on Talking Cowboys

889
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:15,840
Speaker 2: along with Isaiah Kyle. It's it's kind of been a

890
00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 2: split decision between defensive tackle being the highest concern versus cornerback.

891
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 2: And my answer was always cornerback. And it's still cornerback

892
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 2: coming out coming out of the preseason opener, because far

893
00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,120
Speaker 2: too many times I saw rams receivers with a ton

894
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,440
Speaker 2: of separation, and not just on one corner, but on

895
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,680
Speaker 2: multiple corners on the same play time and again, and

896
00:41:37,719 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 2: if not for a couple of overthrows from Stetson bended,

897
00:41:40,920 --> 00:41:43,359
Speaker 2: the score looks a lot different than what it did.

898
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: So again, I don't care about the score, because I

899
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,560
Speaker 2: don't care about the win loss, But I care about

900
00:41:46,600 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 2: evaluating the production and the production of these cornerbacks when

901
00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:53,040
Speaker 2: we talk about depth. It's scary Treyvon Diggs when he

902
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 2: comes back from the pupp list, will he require a

903
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:58,000
Speaker 2: grace period to get back the prime form of that

904
00:41:58,040 --> 00:42:01,279
Speaker 2: We don't have exactly my point. He's a rookie, so

905
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 2: when he comes back, not only does he have to

906
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: get back to his version of top four, but he

907
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:08,360
Speaker 2: has to get to NFL game speed and playing speed. Okay,

908
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:11,840
Speaker 2: we know what Deron Bland is great, fantastic, Kyer Elam,

909
00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 2: pleasant surprise out here in camp. I wanted to see

910
00:42:14,719 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 2: him against the Rams. Hopefully we'll see him against the Raiders.

911
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 2: But once you get past those guys, and two of

912
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 2: those guys are on reserve right now, Okay, maybe the

913
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:25,000
Speaker 2: start of the season, we don't know. So if the

914
00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:27,799
Speaker 2: season started right now, it's Kyri Elm or Deron Bland,

915
00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 2: Kyrie Elam, and then who else do you have confidence in?

916
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,400
Speaker 2: And the fact that you don't have an answer to

917
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,160
Speaker 2: that is why I'm still consented.

918
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,200
Speaker 3: And let's go ahead and have that conversation here before

919
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:40,920
Speaker 3: we go to our final break. Slot corner has been

920
00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,920
Speaker 3: a big conversation after Jordan Lewis departed in free agency

921
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 3: to go to Jacksonville. I think the name that is

922
00:42:47,160 --> 00:42:49,120
Speaker 3: going to be a really big domino in all this

923
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,040
Speaker 3: also happens to be the name of the guy who

924
00:42:51,040 --> 00:42:52,720
Speaker 3: made the play of the day for the defense yesterday

925
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 3: at Israel. Mcqualmu y, sir, because he's taking snaps at slot,

926
00:42:56,280 --> 00:42:58,799
Speaker 3: he's taking snaps at outside. And when you look at

927
00:42:58,800 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 3: the way that he's built physically, big, tall, long armed guy,

928
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,120
Speaker 3: it screams outside corner. But they have tried him in

929
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:10,279
Speaker 3: the slot, so really quickly, just quick fired. Do you

930
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:13,360
Speaker 3: feel like mcwama's a better fit outside, which means you

931
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:16,840
Speaker 3: would if he's a starter. Obviously, if you have the

932
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 3: other two guys that you mentioned in Kyer Elam and

933
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 3: to Ron Bland, do you bump Toron Blant inside or

934
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 3: do you keep Bland outside and put mcclama in the slot. Mickey,

935
00:43:25,880 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 3: you start us off.

936
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,560
Speaker 6: I don't like him in the slot. He's not built

937
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:36,400
Speaker 6: to be a slot nickel corner. We saw what happened

938
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:38,439
Speaker 6: with the last guy that was that tall they tried

939
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 6: to put in the slot.

940
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 5: He's no longer here, right.

941
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:49,840
Speaker 6: He doesn't see things fast enough in the slot. To me,

942
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 6: if Digs ain't ready to go, then Bland has to

943
00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 6: be Rondez Barber base defense. You're on the out side,

944
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:03,760
Speaker 6: you go to nickel, you move inside, and I gotta

945
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,919
Speaker 6: find another guy to play outside. I don't think mccuamu's

946
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,040
Speaker 6: that guy. And Andrew Booth is not that guy either.

947
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 5: You think that guy's not here? Is that what you're saying?

948
00:44:13,280 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 2: Whoever that guy is scares me that.

949
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 4: Now let's talk about some of those young cornerbacks, because

950
00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 4: I mean, you got other guys that are here. That's

951
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,400
Speaker 4: a Childress, Rochelle. There's some young guys that are.

952
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,080
Speaker 5: Rochelle got hurt too, by the way.

953
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 4: Yeah, So are any of those guys standing out to

954
00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,000
Speaker 4: you as guys that might be able to do it?

955
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 6: I mean, we were all talking about Keemen Hall and

956
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,319
Speaker 6: Zion Childress and then that they played last night and

957
00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,760
Speaker 6: they didn't look as good as they did here in practice.

958
00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 5: I didn't think so.

959
00:44:41,600 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 6: I think that outside cornerback till Diggs gets back is

960
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 6: a problem.

961
00:44:46,320 --> 00:44:50,440
Speaker 2: I think. I think Kuamu is a matchup piece. I

962
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:53,239
Speaker 2: think it depends on what team you're playing. I think

963
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:57,879
Speaker 2: if you're playing a team that primarily likes to run

964
00:44:57,920 --> 00:45:00,920
Speaker 2: twelve personnel and you know, heavy on tight ends, I

965
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,160
Speaker 2: would be comfortable with mcuambo in the slot because I

966
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 2: put him on a tight end. What I put him

967
00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 2: against Hunter renfro No, I wouldn't. But anybody gonna put

968
00:45:09,960 --> 00:45:13,720
Speaker 2: up right now? Right now is I don't know, okay,

969
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:18,319
Speaker 2: But if you're talking about a bigger boundary guy or

970
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,960
Speaker 2: on a team that also has a Hunter Renfro or

971
00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:23,400
Speaker 2: a you know, a Cold Beasley, somebody who can just

972
00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 2: absolutely cook in the slot, then you put him on

973
00:45:26,600 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 2: the bigger guy on the boundary, not Devontae Smith. You

974
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:32,080
Speaker 2: just kind of cross your fingers and hope that he

975
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 2: can and believe that he can cover aj Brown on

976
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:37,359
Speaker 2: two or three reps on the boundary. So that I

977
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 2: think mccamo is a matchup piece. I don't think you

978
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:41,839
Speaker 2: commit him to one or the other. You look at

979
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:43,520
Speaker 2: the matchup going into the week and say, what is

980
00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:46,320
Speaker 2: this team like to run? Primarily what's the best spot

981
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,160
Speaker 2: to play mccuama.

982
00:45:48,120 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 5: All right.

983
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 3: It's always a good conversation, and you think about some

984
00:45:50,760 --> 00:45:53,319
Speaker 3: other names there too, like Kemon Hall's Ion ChIL Dress.

985
00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:55,320
Speaker 3: In terms of the slot, I think just because of

986
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 3: size alone, you put mcwamo outside. Because of the fact

987
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:01,600
Speaker 3: too that in the you got to work so much

988
00:46:01,640 --> 00:46:03,080
Speaker 3: more in the middle of the field. And is he

989
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 3: that guy that you feel good moving about east and west,

990
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:09,160
Speaker 3: whereas when he's moving north and south, his frame gives

991
00:46:09,239 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 3: him time and space to recover like we saw yesterday,

992
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 3: but he's never done as he did.

993
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:15,200
Speaker 2: That was one plan.

994
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:16,680
Speaker 3: I understand that, but I'm just saying he.

995
00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:18,839
Speaker 2: Has the But we saw him last year, right.

996
00:46:18,760 --> 00:46:20,920
Speaker 3: And I'm not saying that he is going to do

997
00:46:20,960 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 3: that consistently. But at least, like Patrick said, you've seen

998
00:46:23,440 --> 00:46:25,320
Speaker 3: him do it once and can't he do it again?

999
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:25,919
Speaker 2: I can't.

1000
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: And it's all all things are relative to right, compared

1001
00:46:29,160 --> 00:46:31,880
Speaker 4: to those other guys I just mentioned, maybe he's the

1002
00:46:31,920 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 4: best option you got. It might not be ideal, but

1003
00:46:34,520 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 4: he might be the best options. We see Trayvon Diggs.

1004
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 5: Is holding them hostage right.

1005
00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 2: Now that he's not ready to play right now.

1006
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,359
Speaker 4: The only the big answer is you just pray that

1007
00:46:44,440 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 4: Trayvon is ready for the beginning. That's that's your answer.

1008
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,360
Speaker 2: We we went we all went to this was pre Tommy,

1009
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 2: but Tommy's here now. But we went to no, No, no,

1010
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,120
Speaker 2: because we went Tommy tom After tom we went we

1011
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,080
Speaker 2: went to Tampa Bay and we watched Israel mccuamball get

1012
00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:02,160
Speaker 2: thrown into the fire by then Quinn at Nickel and

1013
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 2: basically help the defense shut down. Tom Brady and what

1014
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 2: ended up being Tom Brady's last game. Okay, so I

1015
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: know that he can play Nickel, but it's a matchup thing. Okay.

1016
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 2: And as far as Deron Bland, the reason I don't

1017
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:17,279
Speaker 2: I would prefer to have Deron Bland boundary more so

1018
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:19,600
Speaker 2: than Nickel is because if you put him in the slot,

1019
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 2: then you're helping the offense because you're hiding him. Okay,

1020
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,439
Speaker 2: Now the offense has I'm not going to say free reign,

1021
00:47:26,600 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 2: but it's less of a threat to challenge the boundaries

1022
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:32,719
Speaker 2: because the pick six king is covering the interior. He's

1023
00:47:32,719 --> 00:47:35,120
Speaker 2: coming to the inside. So this is a first team

1024
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 2: All Pro boundary corner that can play. It's the Tyler

1025
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: Smith argument, which do you want? Do you want the

1026
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:43,880
Speaker 2: All Pro left guard, but do you want a Pro

1027
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:44,840
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1028
00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:47,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a good argument to have, and the Cowboys

1029
00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:49,960
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1030
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:52,080
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1031
00:47:52,200 --> 00:47:54,880
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1032
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Speaker 3: theme Solo Stove Here. Patrick was so excited in the

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Speaker 3: break that he was about to eat a s'more before

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Speaker 3: even toasting his mark smell.

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Speaker 2: Listen, anyone, anyone of culture does understand that a row

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Speaker 2: marshmallow is still delicious?

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Speaker 3: Okay, absolutely yes, but it's better on this moore if

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Speaker 3: you burn it.

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Speaker 5: Absolutely yeah.

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Speaker 2: Like you gotta and you're not wrong. I'm just saying,

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Speaker 2: let's let's not look down upon you know, a marshmallow

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Speaker 2: fresh out the bag that is still quality, which still which.

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Speaker 3: Mickey is not only burning he's trying to break our

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Speaker 3: solo stove here. That can't happen. Thank you to our

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Speaker 3: friends at Solo Stove for something up with us, and

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Speaker 3: thank you to Chris Bem for going and grabbing the

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Speaker 3: marshmallows for us. I'll enjoy mine after as well. Derek,

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Speaker 3: you won't. I'm okay, Well, then I'll have Derek.

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Speaker 2: His watch timer is going off. It's telling me it's

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Speaker 2: past my bedside.

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Speaker 3: All right. Well, we'll try to get Derek to bed

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Speaker 3: here in a little bit. But the one more article

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Speaker 3: of business to close in on. It's our last camping

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Speaker 3: out show from training Camp. We do the starter show,

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Speaker 3: we do the end show. We still got a couple

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Speaker 3: more days of practice, but we'll handing out some training

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Speaker 3: Camp awards now that most of this is in the books.

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Speaker 3: We're gonna start with most Valuable Player who's been your

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Speaker 3: training camp MVP Patrick.

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Speaker 2: Oh, training camp, MVP. You know, and this is in

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Speaker 2: part thanks to what Dak Prescott is doing now that

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Speaker 2: he's fully healthy. But it's Ceedee Lamb. Ceedee Lamb is

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Speaker 2: absolutely having his way. And that's why it was funny

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Speaker 2: that he said what he said after the last padded

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Speaker 2: practice before the before the preseason game, when he was asked,

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Speaker 2: which you know to evaluate the cornerbacks room, uh, and

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Speaker 2: CD said and I quote, well none of them are

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Speaker 2: giving me hell, but you know they're end quote.

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Speaker 16: And that's you can't god, you can't God. It's it's

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Speaker 16: Peak eighty eight club is what that was. So for me,

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Speaker 16: it's a short answer to Ceedee Lamb. He has been

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Speaker 16: absolutely unguardable on every route, no matter where he's placed

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Speaker 16: inside outside, it's a go. He's running the full route

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00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 16: tree Ceedee Lamb looks like he set up to do

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Speaker 16: some damn it. And that was before factoring in George Pickens.

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Speaker 3: Derek you kind of looks surprised when Patrick said CD Lamb.

1144
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Speaker 4: Because I think for me, I think the clear answer

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Speaker 4: here is Cavante Turpin.

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00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:14,359
Speaker 2: What Turpin has done every single day.

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Speaker 4: There are wow moments where you're like, oh wow, they

1148
00:53:17,480 --> 00:53:20,319
Speaker 4: got something with this guy. And the beautiful part about

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00:53:20,360 --> 00:53:22,439
Speaker 4: it is they know how to use it. Like now,

1150
00:53:22,600 --> 00:53:25,239
Speaker 4: now we'll see if that that doesn't turn off once

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Speaker 4: we get to.

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Speaker 2: The season, right as it has.

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Speaker 4: Still I still gotta I still have to see that

1154
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,680
Speaker 4: they're actually gonna gonna lose.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna but look at that nice and soft on

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Speaker 2: the ends.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing left on the inside, the inside.

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Speaker 5: Right if you got nerve you word.

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Speaker 4: So I think I think for me it was it

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Speaker 4: was pretty clear Kavanti Turp And that's no knock against CD.

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Speaker 2: Or no none of this.

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Speaker 4: I just think I look at Kavanti Turpin and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: they are finally using him in the way that we

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Speaker 4: all have wanted them to use him. And I think

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Speaker 4: if they continue that into the regular season, he is

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Speaker 4: going to be an outstanding weapon for this team.

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Speaker 5: So guess what.

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Speaker 6: None of those guys could do any of that without

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Speaker 6: Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 2: Yea. And I said it. I said it to me.

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Speaker 6: He's showing you why when you're starting quarterback misses nine

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Speaker 6: games like they did last year, you're up against it.

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Speaker 6: And I went back last year and looked at all

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Speaker 6: fourteen teams that made the playoffs, and I think only one.

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Speaker 6: Only one didn't have a starting quarterback start at least

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Speaker 6: fifteen games, and a couple of those they held him

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Speaker 6: out the last.

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Speaker 5: Game because they didn't need to win.

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Speaker 6: So if you got your quarterback in there, you got

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Speaker 6: an opportunity. And I just think the way he's come back,

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00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 6: he seems to be playing free. He doesn't seem to

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Speaker 6: be worrying about his leg. He's running when he needs.

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00:54:57,200 --> 00:55:01,200
Speaker 2: To run, he's racing. But there's very few times the

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Speaker 2: balls on the ground unless he's disgusted and throws one

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Speaker 2: in the ground.

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Speaker 5: So to me, he's the MVP.

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Speaker 4: Let's also remember the last time we saw Dak Prescott

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Speaker 4: playing a full season, he was an MVP candidate the

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Speaker 4: right league. So that anybody that's questioning Dak, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: you don't. You haven't really been watching football, right.

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Speaker 2: You notice how we've all offense offense offense.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and we're gonna go for for four of My

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Speaker 3: MVP is gonna be George Pickens. You know, you look

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Speaker 3: at what the Cowboys were asking from their wide receiver too, right.

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Speaker 3: They wanted a guy who could alleviate some of Ceedee

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Speaker 3: Lamb's workload. They wanted a guy who could come in

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Speaker 3: and take the top off of a defense because that

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Speaker 3: allows CD Ceedee Lamb to move into the slot, where

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Speaker 3: he's been at his best in his NFL career. He's

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Speaker 3: can play everywhere, but in the slot is really where

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Speaker 3: he's had a lot of his best work. And George

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Speaker 3: Pickens is kind of the epitome of a fifty to

1203
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Speaker 3: fifty ball catcher just because his body control is so good.

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Speaker 3: I'd argue he's one of the better, if not the best,

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Speaker 3: possession downfield, possession contested catch receivers in the NFL. And

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Speaker 3: still I don't think he gets enough credit for what

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Speaker 3: he can do after the catch, not necessarily about which

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Speaker 3: school he went to. I think it's all e Patrick

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Speaker 3: looting to here. Nonetheless, nonetheless, I think what they have

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Speaker 3: asked him to do, he has done and then some

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Speaker 3: and if he and Ceedee Lamb can continue to open

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Speaker 3: doors for one another next season. I said this before

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Speaker 3: we did twenty questions leading up to training camp. I

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Speaker 3: think George Pickens earns his first Pro Bowl this year.

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Speaker 3: So George Pickens is my training camp m v P.

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Speaker 3: All Right, next award we've got to give out most

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Speaker 3: improved player that we've seen at training camp. Mickey, you'll

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Speaker 3: start with you this time.

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Speaker 5: Oh, that's not fair.

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Speaker 6: Not fair, because I gotta think, well, because the other

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00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:51,960
Speaker 6: one I knew right away, right well, he enjoying is marshmallow.

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Speaker 3: He just burned it to our solo stove.

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Speaker 6: I know, Cavante Turpin, he's getting an opportunity, right and

1224
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Speaker 6: now he's shown you why, and I know it's a

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Speaker 6: different level. He wasn't just the return guy in the USFL.

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Speaker 6: He was a wide receiver. He won the award as

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Speaker 6: Offensive Player of the Year and it was because of

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Speaker 6: his receiving ability, and they some of it was him,

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Speaker 6: is explained to me, because he didn't understand the offense

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00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,080
Speaker 6: well and they didn't trust him. Now for some reason,

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00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 6: something clicked and they trust him now. And you're seeing

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Speaker 6: them throwing the ball to him down the field, not

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00:57:38,760 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 6: just jet sweeps, dump off screens, smoke screens. They're throwing

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Speaker 6: him fifteen twenty yards down the field and he's open,

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Speaker 6: and boy, when he's open and on the run, they

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Speaker 6: ain't catching him.

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Speaker 4: It's interesting that you say that that that you know

1238
00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 4: some of the things you're hearing about him not being

1239
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,080
Speaker 4: able to like they didn't trust him. The crazy part

1240
00:57:58,120 --> 00:57:59,919
Speaker 4: is that now they're asking not just to be a receiver,

1241
00:58:00,200 --> 00:58:02,200
Speaker 4: not just if your return guy. They're lighting him up

1242
00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 4: in the backfille. They're giving him handoffs, they're giving him pitches,

1243
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 4: they give him sweeps, they're giving him all kinds of stuff.

1244
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 4: He's playing all over the place right now. So so

1245
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:12,280
Speaker 4: they're not only trusting and they're trusting him with probably

1246
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Speaker 4: as much, if not more responsibility as maybe anybody else

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Speaker 4: on the offense outside of the quarterback.

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Speaker 6: Maybe what was it three years ago the practice at

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00:58:20,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 6: San Diego? In San Diego, it was you no here,

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Speaker 6: it was the Chargers wherever Coasta Mesa. Yeah, And and

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Speaker 6: he had those returns in the practice right And I remember,

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Speaker 6: I'll never forget this talking to him afterwards, and I

1253
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:38,120
Speaker 6: looked at him and I said, what makes you think

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00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:40,919
Speaker 6: I'm looking eye to eye to you that you can

1255
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Speaker 6: make it in the NFL at your size.

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Speaker 5: You're no bigger than me. And he goes speed kills

1257
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Speaker 5: and I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, okay, you win, and Mickey's like, I can't run

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Speaker 2: with I can't run with that.

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Speaker 3: Love to see that that would be great.

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Speaker 6: We'd have to go back many years, maybe.

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Speaker 3: Give you a fifty or so yard had start Patrick

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Speaker 3: your most improved play.

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Speaker 2: You know, for me it's a no brainer. I would

1265
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Speaker 2: have liked to have seen, had seen better film from

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Speaker 2: him against the Rams. But for me, it's d Mount Clark.

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Speaker 2: It's just light years over what Damon Clark was putting

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Speaker 2: on the field when he was allowed to get on

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Speaker 2: the field under Mike Zimmer in twenty twenty four. Last

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00:59:19,200 --> 00:59:23,160
Speaker 2: year was kind of a lack of confidence that he

1271
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Speaker 2: couldn't jail with the coaching staff, the defensive coaching staff.

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,520
Speaker 2: Mike Zimmer just basically didn't believe in him, and you

1273
00:59:29,560 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 2: could see that he basically lived on the inactives list

1274
00:59:32,320 --> 00:59:35,439
Speaker 2: time and again so much to the point so much

1275
00:59:35,440 --> 00:59:37,040
Speaker 2: so that he got to the point where Tommy, you

1276
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 2: and I we're sitting in the press box and every

1277
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 2: time the inactives came out in the back half of

1278
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:43,160
Speaker 2: the season, we were like, Damon is on inactives again.

1279
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Speaker 2: Now fast forward to this training camp and again, yesterday's

1280
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Speaker 2: film wasn't great. So hopefully I'll see better from him

1281
00:59:49,160 --> 00:59:51,919
Speaker 2: against the Rams and then in the final preseason game.

1282
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Speaker 2: But he is such a standout in this training camp

1283
00:59:55,320 --> 00:59:59,120
Speaker 2: out hen Oxnard. I talked to him outside of practice

1284
00:59:59,200 --> 01:00:01,880
Speaker 2: and he had like this glow and he said he

1285
01:00:01,960 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 2: feels refreshed, and he loves the fact that iber Flus

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Speaker 2: also is a dedicated linebackers coach, but a young minded,

1287
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Speaker 2: dedicated linebackers coach. He's completely bought into eber Flus's system

1288
01:00:11,880 --> 01:00:13,919
Speaker 2: and the belief that the coaching staff has in him.

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01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: That's coming in and he's flying around. He's reading better,

1290
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Speaker 2: he's reacting better. His physicality was never in question. Okay,

1291
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Speaker 2: but those things he needed to improve, I'm seeing them

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Speaker 2: improve in spades now. The only thing I need from

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Speaker 2: the moon Clark is to do it under the bright lights.

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Speaker 4: Y'all would have said, damon Clark. But just to be different,

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Speaker 4: I'll throw at Mary Slifiu.

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Speaker 2: Not that Merrill.

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Speaker 4: Slievole wasn't good last year during camp, but you could

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Speaker 4: see last year he was trying to figure a lot

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Speaker 4: of things out. He was thinking a lot. This year,

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Speaker 4: it seems like he understands what he's doing. He's just

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01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:47,000
Speaker 4: flying around. There isn't a lot of having the second

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Speaker 4: guess himself. He really is just playing by instinct, and

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01:00:49,720 --> 01:00:51,000
Speaker 4: his instincts are fast.

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Speaker 5: So I think from just a.

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Speaker 4: Year over year comparison, I think he is light years

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Speaker 4: ahead of where he was this time last year.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and real quick on demon. He's shown us flashes

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01:01:01,480 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 2: under the bright lights. And not just the fact that

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Speaker 2: he was an All American at LSU, but his rookie

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01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 2: season when he came back much sooner than many thought

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Speaker 2: from that spinal fusion surgery in October. He made his

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Speaker 2: debut immediately, was an impact guy for dan Quinn, made

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Speaker 2: another impact or more impact for dan Quinny year two.

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Speaker 2: But you know year three in the Mike Zimmer, it

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01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:21,280
Speaker 2: just fell off the rails. But he looks like he's

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Speaker 2: very much back on the rails.

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Speaker 6: We forget in twenty twenty three he was the team's

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Speaker 6: leading tax.

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Speaker 4: Yes, yeah, that's twenty times, That's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: And he just got lost in the shuffles some hard

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Speaker 6: last year and didn't make sense.

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Speaker 2: He and Zimmer just it just didn't work sometimes, you know, sometimes.

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Speaker 6: He just didn't have a vision for him. Maybe I

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01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:42,680
Speaker 6: don't know, especially with he is bawling out.

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Speaker 3: And I'll close this out with a guy who we

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Speaker 3: didn't see here at trading camp last year. But I

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01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:49,520
Speaker 3: think was in need of a confidence boost, and that's

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Speaker 3: kyer Elam. Even going back to OTA's it feels like

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Speaker 3: this is a guy who came in from Buffalo after

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Speaker 3: the Cowboys acquired in via trade and he said, all right,

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Speaker 3: let's see if it works. And boys, up to this point,

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Speaker 3: I mean, he's been one of their better, if not

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01:02:02,920 --> 01:02:05,760
Speaker 3: their best corner that is played on the field, aside

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01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 3: from Deron Bland. So if that continues, going to be

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Speaker 3: a welcome sign at the start of the year, especially

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01:02:10,120 --> 01:02:11,480
Speaker 3: if Trayvon Digs can't go.

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Speaker 6: Would you have bet that in the first preseason game

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Speaker 6: they would sit him right? Actually, oh, we don't want

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01:02:19,240 --> 01:02:20,919
Speaker 6: him playing. We can't get him hurt.

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Speaker 3: That tells you something. All right, we'll go rapid fire

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01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:25,439
Speaker 3: here with this one. We're running out of some time.

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01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 3: So Rookie of the Camp can't do Rookie of the

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01:02:28,160 --> 01:02:30,080
Speaker 3: Year because there has been no year yet. But Rookie

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Speaker 3: of the Camp, Derek.

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Speaker 4: Donovans shout out to the cues, you're not biased enough

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Speaker 4: to beat that, all right, Pat, there is no.

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Speaker 2: Biased at Oh oh good grief, it's it's says a roku. Yeah,

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01:02:44,040 --> 01:02:46,640
Speaker 2: it says a roku. I could explain why, but it

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01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,640
Speaker 2: says a Roku he's doing some some major things. And

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01:02:50,760 --> 01:02:52,880
Speaker 2: even in the game, granted he didn't get I know

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01:02:52,920 --> 01:02:54,919
Speaker 2: some people wanted to see, oh, two to three sacks,

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01:02:54,960 --> 01:02:56,640
Speaker 2: et cetera, but he was eating up double teams and

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01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,680
Speaker 2: freeing up with the guys he's already been schemed for

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01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:01,200
Speaker 2: in a pre season debut. Can I give you a

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01:03:01,280 --> 01:03:02,280
Speaker 2: hot take? Go for it.

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Speaker 5: He's gonna be second on this team and in secks.

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Speaker 2: You know what, you know what I like about what

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01:03:07,200 --> 01:03:11,120
Speaker 2: you just said. It's gonna piss off Sam Williams, Sam, you.

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Speaker 4: Heard that, Dante that. But I'm telling you a positive motivation.

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01:03:17,720 --> 01:03:21,520
Speaker 4: Aku's got. He's got, so he's got the should have

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01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:24,920
Speaker 4: counted pressure. And I think a lot of the things too,

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01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 4: like if they use him in a way to where

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01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 4: he's just the guy they bring in to to kind

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01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,440
Speaker 4: of put pressure on the quarterback where they might be

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01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:34,240
Speaker 4: relying on those other guys maybe to do a little

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01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,760
Speaker 4: more right. They may be relying on them on rundowns

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01:03:36,760 --> 01:03:38,960
Speaker 4: and stuff like that. But I think as a Raku

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01:03:39,160 --> 01:03:41,680
Speaker 4: is primed to be a guy that's just gonna rack

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01:03:41,800 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 4: up sacks.

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Speaker 3: Maybe the most page rusher from this class, no doubt

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Speaker 3: your draft class, Mickey.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm not gonna argue with that. I might have

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01:03:48,640 --> 01:03:51,360
Speaker 6: if he hadn't gotten hurt. I liked what Jaden Blue

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Speaker 6: was doing in these practices.

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Speaker 5: Uh and he there was a practice.

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01:03:59,120 --> 01:04:02,800
Speaker 6: More than a week go where he got sideswiped and

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01:04:02,840 --> 01:04:05,440
Speaker 6: it looked like he got dinged right, and he laid

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01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,360
Speaker 6: there for a while. He went off, They checked him

1379
01:04:08,680 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 6: and I'm going, okay, rookie, what you got And it

1380
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,600
Speaker 6: wasn't ten minutes later he was back on the field

1381
01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:15,440
Speaker 6: carrying the ball.

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01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:19,400
Speaker 5: And that speed it you can.

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01:04:19,280 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 6: Time him in the forty that's fine. But his takeoff,

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01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 6: he gets going so fast, so quick. He was gonna

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01:04:27,800 --> 01:04:30,800
Speaker 6: be my guy. Now hopefully you know it's a foot

1386
01:04:31,160 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 6: ankle laid. Yeah, well that's good. So anyway, keep an

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01:04:38,160 --> 01:04:40,440
Speaker 6: eye on him. But I would go with as a roku.

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Speaker 3: All right, So three as a roku's and an honorable mention.

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01:04:44,160 --> 01:04:47,080
Speaker 3: It seemed like they're for Jaden Blue. Patrick, you mentioned bias.

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01:04:47,240 --> 01:04:49,200
Speaker 3: I will be fully biased. Say it with me, Derek,

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01:04:49,320 --> 01:04:52,880
Speaker 3: look him horns Jaden Blue. Well, here's the thing too,

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01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:55,200
Speaker 3: is yes, Ezraku has been good. I think It's been

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01:04:55,240 --> 01:04:57,480
Speaker 3: interesting to watch the last couple of practices, the joint

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01:04:57,480 --> 01:05:00,400
Speaker 3: practice in the preseason game, it seems like all they're

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01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,800
Speaker 3: having him do is bulrush. I don't know if that's

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01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:05,920
Speaker 3: just the Brian Schottenheimer using the seven iron there, but

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Speaker 3: one of the.

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Speaker 2: Well we know he can he has other moves.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the reason why I'm saying, I think it's

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Speaker 4: more than just he's not doing like I think there's

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01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:13,720
Speaker 4: something more there, right, And that's.

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Speaker 3: That's what That's the point I was trying to make

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01:05:15,200 --> 01:05:17,520
Speaker 3: is you know, if you look at the preseason game

1404
01:05:17,560 --> 01:05:19,160
Speaker 3: and saying, ah, you know, I don't think I saw

1405
01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:21,520
Speaker 3: him as much as I wanted to. Well, he wasn't

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01:05:21,520 --> 01:05:23,640
Speaker 3: really using his hands a whole lot on these passwordses

1407
01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:26,440
Speaker 3: and he only had like ten snaps. So you know,

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01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,080
Speaker 3: I agree with Derek, this guy is gonna be a

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01:05:28,120 --> 01:05:30,520
Speaker 3: really good player. But man, Jaden Blue, there's a difference

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Speaker 3: between forty speed and football speed, and I think Jaden

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01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,520
Speaker 3: Blue has game changing football speed. And what's impressed me

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Speaker 3: the most about in this camp, and he was really

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Speaker 3: proud of it when I talked to him the other day.

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Speaker 3: He hasn't fumbled yet, he is not fumbled all security

1415
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Speaker 3: was the biggest issue with him coming out of Chexas.

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01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:50,160
Speaker 3: So if that can get fixed, if that can continue,

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01:05:50,280 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 3: you've had a really good player on your hands and

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01:05:51,920 --> 01:05:53,920
Speaker 3: a guy who can make a lot of plays on

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01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 3: this side.

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Speaker 2: Derek Foster, when you talk about the fact that Jay

1421
01:05:56,760 --> 01:05:58,520
Speaker 2: and Blue hasn't put one on the ground yet.

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Speaker 6: And I and I talked to I was gonna say

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Speaker 6: maybe it was the Texas coaching staff.

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Speaker 3: It wasn't. Because we're in back to back college football playoffs.

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01:06:06,760 --> 01:06:12,960
Speaker 2: I'm gonna choice there is that running back.

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Speaker 3: There are not many better in the game that the

1427
01:06:15,120 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 3: choice were at Texas. You think about the five running

1428
01:06:17,280 --> 01:06:18,919
Speaker 3: backs that he sent to the NFL WI he was there,

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01:06:18,920 --> 01:06:21,200
Speaker 3: So I'll say that that picture speaks for himself. By

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Speaker 3: the way, that's gonna do it for us here on

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01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 3: camping out. What an amazing time we had.

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Speaker 2: Did we do this back at the start?

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01:06:28,240 --> 01:06:30,120
Speaker 3: Derek's going to sleepy one as long as we do

1434
01:06:30,120 --> 01:06:33,280
Speaker 3: it in the afternoon. Dude, I don't know if we

1435
01:06:33,320 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 3: even need the fire with how hot it is. But

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01:06:34,960 --> 01:06:37,760
Speaker 3: with solo film we always wanted out here, we don't need.

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Speaker 2: We'll just put him on the sidewalks right right.

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Speaker 3: Thank you to our friends at Solo Stove for the

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01:06:43,400 --> 01:06:45,320
Speaker 3: great Solo Stove here. That's with us. We're gonna can

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01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:47,520
Speaker 3: keep this fire going and life some smores after this.

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Speaker 3: For the rest of the crew, Mickey Spagnola, Patrick Nosey Walker,

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01:06:50,880 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 3: Derek Eagleton, Chris Beam in the front, I'm Tommy Yards.

1443
01:06:53,880 --> 01:06:55,960
Speaker 3: Thanks for hanging out with us on camping out. We'll

1444
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Speaker 3: see you tomorrow with some more content here from training

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Speaker 3: camp in Oxnard.

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