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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, welcome to another episode. I saw what you did.

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Speaker 1: My name is Millie to.

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Speaker 2: Jericho, I'm Daniel Henderson, and we are.

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Speaker 1: Here on the holiest of months to talk about the

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Speaker 1: religion of film.

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Speaker 2: Oh that was a good one.

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Speaker 3: Really yeah, I like that. Wow, I was like, oh shit,

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Speaker 3: she said, Holy, where is this going?

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Speaker 2: Religion of film? I like it.

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Speaker 4: Listen.

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Speaker 1: I am truly phoning them in eleven out of twelve

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Speaker 1: months of the year, and I don't know. This month,

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Speaker 1: it felt like I needed to do something, something epic.

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Speaker 2: So speed what he did.

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Speaker 1: Well.

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Speaker 4: First, well, let me let me apologize up top.

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Speaker 1: I have a little bit of a cold, so I

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Speaker 1: just wanted to let everybody know because I thought it

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Speaker 1: was sounding ex shred nasally.

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Speaker 3: Is a little bad that you're recording, Well, you have

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Speaker 3: a cold.

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Speaker 1: Look, this is this time of year. I feel like

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Speaker 1: last year, this this happened. I think if we go

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Speaker 1: back and we listened to the December episodes of last year,

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Speaker 1: I think one or both of us were sick.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Probably this is usually the time when I'm most likely

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Speaker 3: to get a cold or something, but I'm in keeping

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Speaker 3: it locked down.

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Speaker 2: I talked to.

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Speaker 3: Someone recently who was like who was talking to me

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Speaker 3: in a way that like they thought I was a

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Speaker 3: normal person who went out all the time. And I

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Speaker 3: was like, oh no, I don't leave my house and

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Speaker 3: she was like what, Like, oh no, I'm still like

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Speaker 3: the only person in America locking down. Like it's a

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Speaker 3: psychological issue at this point for me.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, right, No, I feel I feel that way too.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's it's tough because like so many

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Speaker 1: people are out there like it's it's over, like it

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Speaker 1: like I know that we don't think it's over, but

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Speaker 1: it's over. I mean period, like no one given, no

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Speaker 1: one gives a fuck anymore business as usual.

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Speaker 4: So at any rate, what is your what is your news?

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Speaker 3: I feel bad especially No it's okay, but this time

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Speaker 3: of year, especially, I feel like I don't even want

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Speaker 3: to get a cold, So I'm still gonna wear a mask,

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Speaker 3: Like I wear a mask because I don't want to

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Speaker 3: get sick at all. Like you can say what you

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Speaker 3: will about COVID, but like I don't want your fucking germs.

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Speaker 3: I'm never raw dog in public air again.

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Speaker 4: Oh yeah, especially like travel air. Fuck that like that

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Speaker 4: when I.

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Speaker 1: Went on that cruise a few weeks ago, you know,

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Speaker 1: I was like, I'm still wearing this mask on a plane.

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Speaker 4: Are you kidding?

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Speaker 5: Like, hell yeah, no way, I'm not so hell yeah,

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Speaker 5: but yeah, I just I we forgot collectively to acknowledge

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Speaker 5: that we had an anniversary for the pod back in November,

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Speaker 5: like a month ago.

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Speaker 3: We had our second anniversary for the podcast. Oh so,

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Speaker 3: happy anniversary. Hey, happy two year anniversary.

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Speaker 2: Do you believe even do this for two years?

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Speaker 1: Can you believe we already forgot after the first year, Like,

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Speaker 1: already forgot the anniversary after the first year.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I mean, I know how I am in

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Speaker 3: all relationships. I'm not the remember the date person. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: when's your birthday? And they're like, like my ex husband

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Speaker 3: would be like, we've been married for like seven years,

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Speaker 3: what are you talking about, Like.

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Speaker 2: When's our wedding?

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Speaker 3: Niverse, we got married on Halloween, so I would remember

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Speaker 3: the date.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, do you remember?

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Speaker 1: I Mean, the only thing I really remember about starting

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Speaker 1: I was in their guest bedroom, and that we were

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Speaker 1: really worried that like Trump was gonna get re elected.

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Speaker 4: And those are the only two facts that I remember,

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Speaker 4: because we wane Knuckle that shit.

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Speaker 2: For real.

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Speaker 3: Oh good, I know it was. It was just there

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Speaker 3: was a lot going on in November. Yeah, so it

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Speaker 3: doesn't make sense to me that we we uh you know,

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Speaker 3: I just I'm I'm very excited, and it made me

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Speaker 2: The Criterion channel they have a bunch of.

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Speaker 3: Like they talk to a bunch of creators and yeah,

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Speaker 3: So I'm watching these things, and I'm listening to these things.

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Speaker 3: I'm just like, thank God for me and Millie, because

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Speaker 3: when I listen to people talk about film sometimes I'm like,

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Speaker 3: it's just two white men shouting movie titles at each other,

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Speaker 3: this person like this is just two white men sitting

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Speaker 2: What about that movie?

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Speaker 3: What about like just trying to one up each other

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Speaker 3: on knowledge, and I'm like, what am I getting from this?

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Speaker 2: Nothing? Nothing? Thank God for us, because I really.

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Speaker 3: Love being able to talk about movies in an accessible way.

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Speaker 1: No, dude, thank you for saying that. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: I thank God for you. Forget me, thank God for you,

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Speaker 1: because honestly, like you know, I've been in this game

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Speaker 1: of good people doing a lot.

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Speaker 4: Of good stuff.

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Speaker 1: Don't get me wrong, but I will say, like generally,

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Speaker 1: like mostly to a serious side, right, And that's fine.

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Speaker 4: I can do that.

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Speaker 1: I can speak academically towards film or factually towards film,

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Speaker 1: and that's fun to a certain degree, but it's not

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Speaker 4: Because honestly, you accept my bullshit.

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Speaker 1: And any kind of weird inroad into a movie that

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Speaker 2: So I'm here for it.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's really hard to find that kind of rapport

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you.

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Speaker 3: And I feel the same because I feel like I

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Speaker 3: And even though I can get there like I can

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Speaker 3: So I feel like it's when you're able to bring

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Speaker 3: Love him like robot voice like one track mine, Like, yep,

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Speaker 1: I think that you can speak to things emotionally and

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And we talked about that a lot in the

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Speaker 3: I think it's it's useful, it's it's wonderful, and it's funny,

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Speaker 4: Have you come to doing this podcast differently?

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Speaker 2: So that part I love. I always love that.

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Speaker 3: The thing that I will say that has changed about

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Speaker 3: I mean absolutely, It's completely changed my life to be

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Speaker 1: the very beginning.

442
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:46,640
Speaker 3: So yeah, yeah, me either. It's been great. It's been

443
00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,199
Speaker 3: so wonderful and just so much fun. I just I

444
00:21:49,200 --> 00:21:50,880
Speaker 3: think when I watched them that way, when I watch

445
00:21:50,920 --> 00:21:53,120
Speaker 3: them in that back to back, true double feature way,

446
00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,639
Speaker 3: it makes me laugh so much to think about, like

447
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,760
Speaker 3: how we're connecting the films. Yeah, totally, Like there are

448
00:21:58,800 --> 00:22:03,359
Speaker 3: just some weeks where I'm like, I'm gonna pivot from

449
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:04,480
Speaker 3: Home Alone to this.

450
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:08,000
Speaker 1: I know, I was about to say, are we transitioning

451
00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,920
Speaker 1: into our theme now, because that is the exactly point

452
00:22:10,960 --> 00:22:11,600
Speaker 1: I was gonna make.

453
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:18,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, we absolutely should, but happy belated anniversary and yeah,

454
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 3: let's get into our god damn theme.

455
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 4: Well, I think you probably know because we've done it

456
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:34,120
Speaker 4: for two years? Is this the second year?

457
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,439
Speaker 2: This is the third time, we're the third time.

458
00:22:36,920 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: Okay, I've lost it. I can't count time anymore.

459
00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:43,680
Speaker 1: We're into our third year. We've done two full years

460
00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 1: of this pod. Okay, so you're into our third years.

461
00:22:47,160 --> 00:22:49,920
Speaker 1: And this means this is the third occurrence of our

462
00:22:50,000 --> 00:22:55,640
Speaker 1: theme this week, which is called Christmas Assholes Baby.

463
00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 4: We have been doing this for a while. We love it,

464
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,439
Speaker 4: and it's now I guess the tradition. We'll try to

465
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 4: keep it going as long as we can.

466
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:04,720
Speaker 2: But I am.

467
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,280
Speaker 4: Excited about this week because.

468
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 2: Her movies are so different.

469
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:18,600
Speaker 1: And somehow, somehow, I have found new inroads into your

470
00:23:18,680 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: film this week, even though I've seen it probably about

471
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,919
Speaker 1: forty seven forty eight times in my life and it

472
00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:27,080
Speaker 1: comes on TV all the time now.

473
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:33,119
Speaker 3: And your film is definitely like a Sundays with Grandpa

474
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 3: film for me. Yes, And when I was younger and

475
00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,160
Speaker 3: watching this with my grandparents and they'd be like, oh,

476
00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 3: this is a good picture, I remember being like the

477
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,800
Speaker 3: fuck is going on? And as an adult watching it,

478
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:49,160
Speaker 3: I also found different inroads into it. But I've seen

479
00:23:49,200 --> 00:23:50,639
Speaker 3: it so many times, and I feel like this is

480
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:53,000
Speaker 3: the first time I've watched it intentionally as an adult

481
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:55,160
Speaker 3: on my own terms.

482
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,080
Speaker 1: I'm going to say this right now, and maybe I'm

483
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:04,000
Speaker 1: gonna lose my film cred Badge for this. You know,

484
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: the entire first part of our podcast is invalidated now

485
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 1: because I'm about to say this. My movie This Week

486
00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: is one of those films that is talked about a lot.

487
00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,399
Speaker 1: For some reason, we all decided that seventies movies were

488
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: really important. Yeah, and I believe that to be true,

489
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: like ninety eight percent of the time. Like I think, oh, yeah,

490
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: the seventies incredible filmmaking. It was like, you know, the

491
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,960
Speaker 1: new American cinema. It was, you know, we just came

492
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:34,719
Speaker 1: off of the studio era. We had a lot of

493
00:24:34,800 --> 00:24:41,760
Speaker 1: like great interesting directors. It was gritty obviously, like you

494
00:24:41,800 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 1: know a lot of big directors came out of that era,

495
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 1: like Scorsese and you know, et cetera. But so this

496
00:24:49,400 --> 00:24:51,439
Speaker 1: is my movie this Week is one of those movies

497
00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:53,760
Speaker 1: that I had always heard about being this like really

498
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,119
Speaker 1: important seventies film, And I'm just like, are you kidding?

499
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:56,919
Speaker 2: Because it's the.

500
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 1: I'm sorry to say it, folks, but no, it's not

501
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,199
Speaker 1: just good as everybody has told me it was for years.

502
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:10,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think you're wrong, because I'm.

503
00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:13,600
Speaker 3: Like, the fuck is even in the film, they're like

504
00:25:13,640 --> 00:25:16,640
Speaker 3: what is happening? Like when the film itself is asking

505
00:25:16,880 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 3: what are we doing here? You have to question, is

506
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,479
Speaker 3: this like an Emperor's New closed situation where people are

507
00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:25,960
Speaker 3: telling me it's brilliant because they don't fucking understand it?

508
00:25:26,080 --> 00:25:27,000
Speaker 2: Or watch.

509
00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,200
Speaker 1: Well took my head that one episode a while back

510
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,879
Speaker 1: where I told you that I get pissed off when

511
00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,880
Speaker 1: a movie is intentionally confusing because I feel.

512
00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:40,240
Speaker 4: Like, oh, well, I'm smart and this movie.

513
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 1: Is being intentionally confusing, and if you're confusing me, then

514
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,000
Speaker 1: you're an asshole.

515
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 4: Like I feel like personally slided when a movie is

516
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 4: too confusing for me to figure out.

517
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, put it this way.

518
00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 3: I watched and followed Donnie Darko, and that movie was

519
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:58,760
Speaker 3: literally a snake eating its own fucking tail. If I

520
00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:00,760
Speaker 3: can watch a movie like that and and then a

521
00:26:00,800 --> 00:26:03,439
Speaker 3: movie like this is like, what, There's something going on

522
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,520
Speaker 3: that's lost in translation of the making of the film,

523
00:26:05,880 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 3: and I think that it's like there is another film

524
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,159
Speaker 3: I watched this week separate from the pod, but I

525
00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:14,119
Speaker 3: had the same feeling where I was like, I feel

526
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:17,720
Speaker 3: like you're trying to do too much razzle dazzle, like

527
00:26:17,760 --> 00:26:19,719
Speaker 3: sleight of hand over here to make me think this

528
00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:23,439
Speaker 3: movie is interesting and cool and it's actually just a mess.

529
00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean, dare I say that there were moments

530
00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:29,720
Speaker 1: where my movie is more confusing than zart Oz where

531
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:31,880
Speaker 1: at this point I feel like I understand zart as

532
00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:33,160
Speaker 1: like specifically clear.

533
00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:37,040
Speaker 3: You know, so ours is a straight narrative compared to

534
00:26:37,119 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 3: this film.

535
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And to be honest with you is I've only

536
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: seen it one other time and so I haven't sayed

537
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,159
Speaker 1: it over and over like I probably should have.

538
00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 4: And maybe I'll give it another go. But honestly, I mean, we'll.

539
00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 2: Get to it.

540
00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080
Speaker 4: We'll get to it, but we will get to it.

541
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,960
Speaker 1: Honestly, this theme is one of our faves. Like I said,

542
00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:57,960
Speaker 1: we do it for the holidays every year. It's fun

543
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:00,560
Speaker 1: to figure out who the asshole is that.

544
00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: I can't wait for you to tell me.

545
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:05,240
Speaker 3: Oh, I'm gonna jump right in and let me tell

546
00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,840
Speaker 3: you that. The one thing I love about this theme,

547
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: there are a couple of themes that recurring themes that

548
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 3: we do that I love. For one particular reason, and

549
00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 3: it's because I get a chance to take down a classic. Yes,

550
00:27:18,840 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 3: So I love when the comments for the week before like,

551
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:24,080
Speaker 3: oh my god, you're gonna do my favorite movie, and

552
00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,000
Speaker 3: I'm like, hang the fuck on, because I'm not gonna

553
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 3: do it in your favorite way.

554
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: Listen, you took down when Harry met Sally. Let's take

555
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,560
Speaker 1: down another sacred cow. Let's shoot it in between the eyes.

556
00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:35,400
Speaker 2: Let's do it.

557
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: This film was released in nineteen ninety. It was written

558
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,120
Speaker 3: by John Hughes we've talked about tremendously on this podcast.

559
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:51,439
Speaker 3: Directed by Chris Columbus, This movie is inescapable for the

560
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 3: holidays and it's home alone.

561
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,080
Speaker 2: Are you here all alone?

562
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 3: Oh?

563
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:55,920
Speaker 2: My usual?

564
00:27:56,440 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be here alone?

565
00:27:58,960 --> 00:27:59,639
Speaker 4: I don't think so.

566
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 3: Now, I will say in my rewatching of it, I

567
00:28:03,359 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: found it delightful and it was very funny. And John

568
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,480
Speaker 3: Hughes again who we've talked about a lot in the

569
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,639
Speaker 3: past on this pod, particularly in that She's having a

570
00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:15,520
Speaker 3: baby episode. He's a great screenwriter. He always sent her

571
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 3: Chicago as like his home base. So Chicago and the

572
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:24,760
Speaker 3: Christmas time is a great place to to put this film.

573
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 3: The cast is awesome. I feel bad talking about the

574
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,200
Speaker 3: movie because it kind of both launched Macaulay Culkins's career

575
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:35,679
Speaker 3: and ruined his fucking life for a long time. So

576
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 3: I feel bad for that. But he's awesome in this movie.

577
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:44,160
Speaker 3: You've got Cathy casting. Joe Peshey was just an inspired move.

578
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,560
Speaker 3: Joe Peschey and Daniel Stern are awesome. John Hurd rest

579
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 3: in Peace, Katherine O'Hara is Kate, and the mom. It's

580
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: just it's just a great a great cast. John Candy

581
00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:57,920
Speaker 3: rest in Peace, Oh my god, Michael Morona from The Andrews,

582
00:28:57,920 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 3: and Pete and he, I mean, come on like this,

583
00:28:59,720 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 3: and and tiny baby Kiaren Culkin looking like that fucking

584
00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:05,240
Speaker 3: six Flags guy.

585
00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 2: He was dressed like the inspiration for that old six

586
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:11,160
Speaker 2: flags bow tie.

587
00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:17,000
Speaker 3: Ward motherfucker decades the Bed Fuller We's the Bed would

588
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:19,800
Speaker 3: be such a good band name. Oh yeah, if it

589
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,880
Speaker 3: hasn't been already, we should start a band called Fuller

590
00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 3: We's the Bed.

591
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: But it's just great.

592
00:29:24,560 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 3: It's a delightful movie. I can see how it became

593
00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 3: an instant classic. I remember loving it when it came out.

594
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 3: I've seen it countless times, sure, and I don't think

595
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:36,840
Speaker 3: I need to give a one sentence synopsis, but I

596
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: will just in case we have any like eight year

597
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:41,320
Speaker 3: olds listening to this who haven't seen the movie yet.

598
00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 2: We have eight year.

599
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 4: Olds listening, that would be horrifying.

600
00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,280
Speaker 3: But yeah, I would crawl, I would walk into the

601
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: ocean if we have an eight year olds to this.

602
00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 3: But my one sentence synopsis is a stressed out Chicago

603
00:29:57,320 --> 00:30:00,320
Speaker 3: family forgets to bring their youngest child on vacation after

604
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,840
Speaker 3: oversleeping and almost missing their flight to Paris for Christmas break,

605
00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 3: giving career criminals an opportunity to case their house. So

606
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 3: that's kind of the premise. It's like you're introduced into

607
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 3: the madness as soon as the movie starts, like there's

608
00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,600
Speaker 3: the McAllister family is in their home with the dad's

609
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 3: brother is there with all of his kids. There's just

610
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,720
Speaker 3: like nineteen kids there and like these stressed out parents

611
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 3: and it's chaos, and Joe Peschi is kind of standing

612
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 3: there dressed like a cop and he's clearly casing the joint,

613
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,120
Speaker 3: but it's such madness in the house that nobody can

614
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: really focus on him. And that's how they plan their heights.

615
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,239
Speaker 3: And I got to say, the Christmas assholes in this

616
00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,680
Speaker 3: film for me, are not the criminals.

617
00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,080
Speaker 2: It's not the wet bandits. Sure.

618
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,760
Speaker 3: I think they're taking advantage of an opportunity. I would

619
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: not want them to do that to my house, but

620
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 3: they're just taking advantage of a uugh fucking opportunity. And

621
00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,640
Speaker 3: these people don't have a security system, and that's a

622
00:30:59,680 --> 00:31:02,800
Speaker 3: big Like, you can't just turn on lights when you

623
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:07,080
Speaker 3: leave my people. You have to be in the mindset

624
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 3: that people are going to try to get into your

625
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,520
Speaker 3: shit and do a little bit like have a house sitter,

626
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 3: have somebody like around, have a security system.

627
00:31:16,160 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: But they don't. They're like, we've got a timer for

628
00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: a couple of lights, so we'll be cool.

629
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 3: Let me.

630
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,320
Speaker 4: I want to talk to you about this house too. Yeah,

631
00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:24,120
Speaker 4: just a little bit.

632
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,200
Speaker 1: This house is massive, Okay, How fucking rich are these

633
00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:31,280
Speaker 1: folks to afford this house? I mean, first of all,

634
00:31:31,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: if you have five kids, period, you gotta be rolling

635
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: in some kind of tens and you're going to Paris

636
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: for Christmas? Yes, So I don't think it's ever revealed

637
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: what the parents do for a living. All I know

638
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,960
Speaker 1: is that this time around, for some reason, I noticed

639
00:31:48,000 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 1: that there's a lot of dress forms and a lot

640
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: of like sewing materials all over the house, and I'm like,

641
00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:57,320
Speaker 1: is Catherine O'Hara fashion designer?

642
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,360
Speaker 4: Does she fucking create fashions for Jade? I don't know.

643
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 2: She brings the energy to me of a marketing executive

644
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 2: who sews in her part time because she was kind

645
00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: of raised on homech so she thinks that she thinks

646
00:32:14,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 2: that sewing is gonna chill her out, but then she

647
00:32:16,520 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: just ends up making like really stressed out pillows, stressed.

648
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 3: Out pillows, Like these pillows are looking stressed.

649
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 2: It's a manifestation of her fucking emotions.

650
00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 1: Oh, I know exactly what the fuck you're talking about,

651
00:32:34,640 --> 00:32:38,800
Speaker 1: because there's nothing worse than like going into someone's home,

652
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: someone's mom as crafty as fuck, and that shit looks

653
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,840
Speaker 1: a mess and you're like, what is happening in this house?

654
00:32:46,560 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: You're like, why is this Macrima going up the wall

655
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 1: and around the corner?

656
00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 4: Who is unhappy here?

657
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,680
Speaker 2: Unhappy Macramay another great band name.

658
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:06,360
Speaker 3: And such a fucking vibe. Unhappy Macrimay. And you're like, Wow,

659
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 3: you're really going through you when you can tell someone's

660
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 3: going through it because you're like, you don't know what

661
00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 3: to do with your hands or your mind. Yeah, and

662
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: now your whole house is suffering because of it. But

663
00:33:16,240 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 3: that's the vibeing it from Kate and Pops. I feel

664
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:22,720
Speaker 3: like he just gives me and this is maybe shortsighted

665
00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:29,040
Speaker 3: on my part, but Peter just gives me like oblivious

666
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 3: Wall Street dude.

667
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh totally. And like their house too, it is ginormous.

668
00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:40,400
Speaker 1: I mean they have so many bedrooms, so many sections

669
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 1: of the house. And then it also has this decor

670
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: that this shit brings me back to middle school basically

671
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 1: because I had a friend whose mom had that exact

672
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,760
Speaker 1: same decor. I mean it was like Hunter green with

673
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 1: like plaids and fucking like weird sconces and like everything

674
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 1: look like it was like a Hunter's paradise or so.

675
00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 4: I don't know what what is the style of this house.

676
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:15,719
Speaker 1: It's like weird traditional but also like looks very like

677
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, like where Hunters would hang out to

678
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 1: before after the Fox hunts, Like what is this house style?

679
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:23,560
Speaker 2: It is?

680
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 3: It is New England wasp comfort. They think they're doing comfort,

681
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,120
Speaker 3: but it's so fucking stuffy. It's like the equivalent of

682
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 3: the Southern bathroom with the curtain, like the full curtains

683
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:39,560
Speaker 3: and the fucking like that is the New England, Like

684
00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 3: that Northern equivalent of that is that they think they're

685
00:34:42,719 --> 00:34:45,800
Speaker 3: being chill and that they have a very cozy homie vibe.

686
00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:51,040
Speaker 3: And then you look at their fucking blood red chintz curtains, yeah,

687
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080
Speaker 3: with a fucking plaid sash, and you're like, this is

688
00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 3: not chill. Like you're stressed out pillows, you're unhappy macrimay

689
00:34:57,560 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 3: and you're fucking fucking oppressed if plaid is not chill.

690
00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, they have like red velvet ribbon toilet shams as

691
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,239
Speaker 1: opposed to the trashy, yellow and white ones that we

692
00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:09,040
Speaker 1: had in the South.

693
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 3: So completely, it's like there we're trying to telegraph that

694
00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:14,719
Speaker 3: we're chill, but we are absolutely not chick. And there

695
00:35:14,719 --> 00:35:16,440
Speaker 3: are rooms you can't sit in, there are things you

696
00:35:16,440 --> 00:35:19,279
Speaker 3: can't even touch in our house. It is not chill

697
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,439
Speaker 3: at all. And it's also the vibe I get too,

698
00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 3: is that like Peter is very old money, Like I

699
00:35:25,360 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 3: feel like he's like a like a north Shore kind

700
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,440
Speaker 3: of old money family.

701
00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:30,239
Speaker 2: Put it this way.

702
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 3: When I watched the movie this time, I could absolutely

703
00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: see a world where Peter was a date rapist in college. Woh,

704
00:35:39,160 --> 00:35:45,360
Speaker 3: like a drunk frat boy date rapist, because then you

705
00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,239
Speaker 3: got Frank his brother, and we're gonna talk about uncle

706
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:47,960
Speaker 3: Frank his brother.

707
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 2: But I'll make the two of them together.

708
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 3: Somebody, there is some real chap equidic should happen in here,

709
00:35:53,480 --> 00:35:56,120
Speaker 3: like they either date raped or they murdered people in

710
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:00,880
Speaker 3: their fucking car because they were drunk. I get a

711
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 3: real chap equitdic vibe from this fucking family this time around.

712
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:09,279
Speaker 1: Okay, you have established a theory that the McAllister men

713
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:15,759
Speaker 1: are all day rapists. This is a holiday classique. And

714
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 1: already right out the gate, you come in with your

715
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: with your firestick.

716
00:36:20,960 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 3: Tell me buns, Tell me Buzz isn't already on his way.

717
00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:25,840
Speaker 3: Buzz is either gonna be a fucking rapist or a

718
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:27,000
Speaker 3: murderer or a both.

719
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,399
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm sorry I keep sidetracking you, but it has

720
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:36,279
Speaker 1: to be said again. This movie, every time I watch it,

721
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,000
Speaker 1: something else pops out at me. And this time it

722
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:44,560
Speaker 1: was Buzz's bedroom where I was like, remember when boys

723
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: would have basically like bikini women posters on their walls,

724
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: And how fucking weird that is to think about now yes.

725
00:36:54,440 --> 00:36:58,200
Speaker 3: Yes, like fucking sports illustrated spreads and just like but

726
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:01,239
Speaker 3: beyond that, like Sports Illustrated, it is tame compared to

727
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,839
Speaker 3: what is going on in these this bedroom and like

728
00:37:04,880 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 3: this style of bedroom at this time. It's like you,

729
00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: it's like you go down to the fucking Jersey Shore

730
00:37:10,120 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 3: and you're like, give me a poster with like your

731
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:16,720
Speaker 3: most oiled up woman in the least amount of clothing.

732
00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,200
Speaker 3: And I'm ten and I'm gonna put that on my

733
00:37:19,280 --> 00:37:22,240
Speaker 3: wall and my parents are gonna be like totally fine.

734
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:25,960
Speaker 3: This is why people constantly question whether the streets are okay,

735
00:37:26,200 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 3: because like that should not be fine.

736
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,800
Speaker 1: I have to say, if I if my my nephews

737
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 1: had just posters like twenty four by eighteen inch posters

738
00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: from Spencer's Gifts or whatever of like hot people that

739
00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: aren't famous but they're just hot, I would be like,

740
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:52,759
Speaker 1: what the fuck is this?

741
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 4: Like why is this?

742
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 6: What?

743
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 4: Are you just into hotness?

744
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,480
Speaker 1: Like you're not into like a celebrity, You're not into

745
00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:03,120
Speaker 1: like a specific model, No, you're just into people in

746
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,040
Speaker 1: bathing suits.

747
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,439
Speaker 2: Yeah.

748
00:38:05,000 --> 00:38:08,160
Speaker 4: I don't understand why that used to happen.

749
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:12,280
Speaker 3: Serial killer territory. I'm telling you the McAllister men are fucked.

750
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:18,080
Speaker 3: They are fucked. In this viewing, I was like, I

751
00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:22,320
Speaker 3: don't know about these things. This is like the prototypical

752
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 3: I don't know if you watch the TV show you

753
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:27,839
Speaker 3: but I'm like, I feel like this the whole TV

754
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,280
Speaker 3: series you could take place in this house. Just the house,

755
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 3: not even the town, just in the house. Somebody at

756
00:38:36,280 --> 00:38:38,919
Speaker 3: that base and look, Kevin is already freaked out about

757
00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:43,120
Speaker 3: that basement. And I'm telling you people, there are bones

758
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:44,920
Speaker 3: in that basement. The McAllister men are up to some

759
00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:45,479
Speaker 3: fucking shit.

760
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: There would be like a Hammer family style documentary about

761
00:38:49,800 --> 00:38:56,279
Speaker 1: the fucking mcolister men. So quick, let's get serious. Part

762
00:38:56,320 --> 00:38:58,560
Speaker 1: want to take it down, this fucking Christmas classic. You'll

763
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,520
Speaker 1: never look at it the same way again. You'll never

764
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:01,720
Speaker 1: look at it the same way again.

765
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,360
Speaker 4: We are being canceled as we speak.

766
00:39:08,080 --> 00:39:09,360
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm just saying.

767
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 3: That was my whole vibe. So this this is a

768
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 3: stressed out family. They got secrets to hide, they got

769
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:21,040
Speaker 3: men to protect. It's no wonder they left their youngest

770
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 3: child behind after punishing him.

771
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:26,120
Speaker 2: The night before their trip.

772
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:30,320
Speaker 3: After the whole family, the whole family, the first instinct

773
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: of like ever, who's a Christmas asshole? You're gonna be like, well,

774
00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 3: the whole fucking family, because they all say those shittiest

775
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 3: things to Kevin, like this, the they're just they hate

776
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:41,360
Speaker 3: this little kid. They're like, you can't do anything.

777
00:39:41,400 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 2: You can't tie your shoes, you can't like you're fucking useless.

778
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:45,919
Speaker 2: And I'm like, this kid is eight. Can you all

779
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 2: calm down a little bit? Yes?

780
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:51,040
Speaker 1: And he he gives as good as he gets, by

781
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:53,000
Speaker 1: the way, because he does call his mom a yummy

782
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:57,000
Speaker 1: at one point, I'm like, bitch, like, oh yeah, wow, Kevin,

783
00:39:57,200 --> 00:40:00,000
Speaker 1: I will say when we when we were choosing movie

784
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:04,560
Speaker 1: for this theme for this year, I went into this thinking, well,

785
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Kevin McAllister is obviously going to be the Christmas asshole.

786
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: Like that was my thought. It's like, I'm gonna take

787
00:40:10,719 --> 00:40:11,719
Speaker 2: down Kevin McAllister.

788
00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:13,760
Speaker 3: I'm taking down eight year old boy in a beloved

789
00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:16,880
Speaker 3: family film, Christmas family film. But then when I watched it,

790
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,479
Speaker 3: I'm like, Mmmm, he's a precocious little dick.

791
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: But it's because he grew up around all these fucking maniacs.

792
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,880
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like that's that again goes back to like

793
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: the idea that this family is too big.

794
00:40:29,440 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: There are too many kids.

795
00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 1: Every brother has like five or six kids. What the

796
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:36,399
Speaker 1: fuck is this?

797
00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:36,600
Speaker 3: Like?

798
00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:40,759
Speaker 4: Is this like Sister Wives the television show? Like why

799
00:40:41,080 --> 00:40:42,600
Speaker 4: there's so many fucking kids?

800
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:45,359
Speaker 3: Like when your when your family is so big that

801
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:49,480
Speaker 3: you have to give jobs to children, like important jobs

802
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 3: the children, like, hey, maybe count and make sure everyone

803
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 3: is in this fucking car.

804
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 2: A child should not be doing that job.

805
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's too big, too Yeah, too big.

806
00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: And Kevin was like the little baby puppy that had

807
00:41:04,840 --> 00:41:08,080
Speaker 1: to fight for every scrap and now has like territorial

808
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 1: food issues, like his fuck growling every time he getting

809
00:41:12,239 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: near its water bowl because all of these other kids

810
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:17,799
Speaker 1: and their family are just picking on them all the time.

811
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 1: So of course he's calling his mom a dummy because

812
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: he's just like, fucking this is how I had to survive.

813
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 3: Exact he learned it by watching you. How the fuck

814
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 3: else is he gonna crawl his way out from the

815
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,520
Speaker 3: bottom of that barrel?

816
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean to contend with Buzz and the Pete

817
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,360
Speaker 1: and Pete brother.

818
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 4: They're both dicks to him.

819
00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,279
Speaker 2: So and the sisters.

820
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 3: The sisters are like also dicks in very different ways.

821
00:41:42,239 --> 00:41:45,840
Speaker 3: So yeah, I feel like first Christmas asshole is the

822
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 3: entire mcouister family.

823
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:53,120
Speaker 1: They've a tainted bloodlined as you just iron out for us.

824
00:41:53,360 --> 00:41:57,839
Speaker 3: Chap equittic, fucking chap equittic vibes. You know exactly what

825
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 3: I'm talking, chap equitic plaid.

826
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 2: But I'll also say that there's.

827
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 3: A world where this movie could have been very different,

828
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 3: and in a modern sense, it could. I think that

829
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:21,839
Speaker 3: were I to rewrite it, I would do it this way.

830
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:25,560
Speaker 3: I feel like there's a world where Kevin gets left behind,

831
00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:29,839
Speaker 3: he goes to the cops, the cops call CPS, and

832
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:31,800
Speaker 3: then we have a movie where we try to watch

833
00:42:31,840 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 3: this privileged white family try to wiggle its way out

834
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 3: of the broken US judicial system, Like can we get

835
00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 3: Kevin out of foster care? It's a Christmas miracle if

836
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: you can come home in time to open presence, because

837
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 3: we left him and now we might not get to

838
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:49,040
Speaker 3: raise him.

839
00:42:51,560 --> 00:42:52,360
Speaker 2: That's so true.

840
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:56,360
Speaker 1: The police seemed zero percent concerned that this kid is

841
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:56,959
Speaker 1: on his own.

842
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 3: Oh, they are one of my Christmas ass I have three.

843
00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:04,719
Speaker 3: I'm the list of Christmas asshole. So we're definitely gonna

844
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,920
Speaker 3: get into it. And I think, just going back for

845
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 3: a minute to why, like the whole family could be

846
00:43:10,239 --> 00:43:12,520
Speaker 3: viewed as assholes. I think that buzz and like some

847
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: of the other brothers and cousins. There is a point

848
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,480
Speaker 3: where they're talking about the guy across the street, old

849
00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:22,400
Speaker 3: Man Marley, and they've decided that he's a fucking slayer,

850
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:26,160
Speaker 3: that he's killed people. And I just want to say

851
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,600
Speaker 3: that I sincerely hope to become the kind of old

852
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:32,279
Speaker 3: person that kids make up stories about, like oh, she

853
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,160
Speaker 3: eat tree bark, or she lived on a pirate ship,

854
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,839
Speaker 3: and that fucking Captain Phillips movie is actually based on

855
00:43:37,880 --> 00:43:40,600
Speaker 3: her life and she was the main villain, but then

856
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 3: they had to make it a man because she kind

857
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:43,719
Speaker 3: of deal with the un like I just want some

858
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:47,879
Speaker 3: weird shit out there about me because I want kids

859
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:48,480
Speaker 3: to fear me.

860
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: As I age, yo, it is all fun and games

861
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:53,560
Speaker 1: until one day you're the old man Marley.

862
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:55,600
Speaker 4: I fucking thinking about that shit all the time.

863
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,120
Speaker 1: I'm like, I live alone in a weird country house,

864
00:43:59,880 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 1: and I am.

865
00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:03,320
Speaker 4: Sure there are kids that are like, don't.

866
00:44:03,040 --> 00:44:05,799
Speaker 1: Go past that house after seven PM, because that's when

867
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: the spirits come out and you get possessed.

868
00:44:08,840 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 3: This is why I don't put out Halloween candy because

869
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,239
Speaker 3: I don't want to suddenly know that I'm the house

870
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:16,719
Speaker 3: kids avoid because like we don't know her, and I'm like,

871
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 3: I got lots of candy kids and the parents are

872
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 3: like dragging them across the street like Nope, we don't

873
00:44:21,040 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 3: know that motherfucker.

874
00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 4: The parents don't take that candy.

875
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 2: Don't take that candy. She's got full sized Snickers. Nope.

876
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:34,800
Speaker 2: It's a trap. It's a trap. So that is my hope,

877
00:44:34,880 --> 00:44:36,280
Speaker 2: is justice for Old Man Marley.

878
00:44:36,360 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 3: It does come in the film to a certain extent,

879
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 3: But I fucking hated these kids on site for the

880
00:44:41,040 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 3: way they treated this dude.

881
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:43,320
Speaker 4: One hundred percent.

882
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 1: I fucking love omm always have fucking he brings the

883
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: house down many at many points in the film when

884
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,799
Speaker 1: he is allowed to talk, and I love those like

885
00:44:55,920 --> 00:45:00,279
Speaker 1: fucking he's got those like industrial guy boo. It's like

886
00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:03,040
Speaker 1: he looks like he's in a Tari teenage ryot or

887
00:45:03,080 --> 00:45:04,800
Speaker 1: some shit with those boots.

888
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:08,520
Speaker 2: Ah. I come through, Old Man Marley. I love it.

889
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 4: Keep being you, dude.

890
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:15,080
Speaker 3: Old Man Marley is like, I shovel your fucking sidewalks.

891
00:45:15,080 --> 00:45:17,000
Speaker 3: I make sure you don't slip and fall because I've

892
00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:19,719
Speaker 3: been doing Chicago winters for seventy years.

893
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:21,960
Speaker 2: And your parents. This is the other thing.

894
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,239
Speaker 3: The parents are also assholes, because you mean to tell

895
00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:25,799
Speaker 3: me they've been living across the street from this man

896
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 3: and they never introduced themselves.

897
00:45:27,160 --> 00:45:30,360
Speaker 2: They never said Hi, Yes. That fucking shit pisses me

898
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 2: the fuck off.

899
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,839
Speaker 1: I'm like, bring him a fruit cake, do something he's

900
00:45:34,960 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: saw from the sidewalks for the whole fucking neighborhood.

901
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,520
Speaker 3: And he's clearly on his own, Like, why don't you

902
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 3: be the fucking better people, mcallisters and invite this old

903
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:44,840
Speaker 3: man over for Christmas.

904
00:45:45,600 --> 00:45:48,280
Speaker 4: It's that bloodline again. It goes back to your original

905
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:49,320
Speaker 4: theory all the time.

906
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:51,440
Speaker 2: Fucking chap equitick all day.

907
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:54,960
Speaker 3: So yeah, I hated the family for so many reasons,

908
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:59,960
Speaker 3: just in the first twenty minutes. First Christmas asshole, official

909
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 3: Christmas asshole of Home Alone is Uncle Frank.

910
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 2: For three specific reasons.

911
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:10,120
Speaker 3: Uncle Frank calls Kevin a little jerk because Kevin gets

912
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 3: in a fight with Buzz in the kitchen when they're

913
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:14,760
Speaker 3: all eating their pizza and he spills milk and soda

914
00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,239
Speaker 3: all over the table, and Uncle Frank calls him a

915
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 3: little jerk. With the the immense of someone talking to

916
00:46:22,840 --> 00:46:26,719
Speaker 3: an adult man, like he's about to cancel his mortgage

917
00:46:26,880 --> 00:46:28,719
Speaker 3: because he cursed in his office.

918
00:46:30,120 --> 00:46:32,399
Speaker 4: He is so fucking mean to this.

919
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: He is such a fucking prick.

920
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 3: And then before that, you know he's a prick because

921
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,680
Speaker 3: he doesn't even offer to pay for the pizza. His

922
00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 3: whole family, like twenty fucking kids are in this house,

923
00:46:44,680 --> 00:46:47,480
Speaker 3: descending upon this house. He does not even offer to

924
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 3: pay for the twelve pizzas that showed up.

925
00:46:51,120 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: And his wife is even like, come on, Frank, like

926
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:53,960
Speaker 2: kick in, and he's like no.

927
00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 3: Then when they're on the plane, he tries to steal

928
00:46:58,920 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 3: the silverware. This is like I can't with Uncle Frank.

929
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 3: He's a fucking asshole.

930
00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,320
Speaker 4: Uncle Frank is Michael.

931
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: One of my old co workers, Eric and I used

932
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,720
Speaker 1: to talk about guys like Uncle Frank.

933
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 4: We used to call him shit hands.

934
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:16,880
Speaker 1: Because they're the guys that like come out of the

935
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,479
Speaker 1: bathroom and don't wash their hands, and then they shake

936
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:23,280
Speaker 1: the hands of other men and it just transfers.

937
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 4: Like ass ass juice from.

938
00:47:26,360 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 2: Like men to men.

939
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 1: And then there's there's somehow the heads of corporations or

940
00:47:30,080 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 1: they're like in sales or something like that, and they're

941
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,839
Speaker 1: just like giving firm handshakes with shitty hands. Uncle Frank

942
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,960
Speaker 1: is a shitthand he's a shithand he's a fucking typhoid

943
00:47:40,080 --> 00:47:45,520
Speaker 1: Mary shit hand. He's a fucking prick. He has no cheer,

944
00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: no joy.

945
00:47:47,200 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 3: He's the kind of guy who like has all these kids,

946
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:53,799
Speaker 3: but hates all of his kids. Fuck Uncle Frank, Oh yeah,

947
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 3: fuck Uncle Frank for sure. He's the first Christmas asshole.

948
00:47:57,719 --> 00:48:04,280
Speaker 3: Now my second Christmas asshole, because there are three primary ones.

949
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,120
Speaker 2: And again, not who you think.

950
00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,240
Speaker 3: It's not Kevin, it's not the Wet Bandits the second

951
00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:12,360
Speaker 3: Christmas assholes, and Home alone are the parents, all of

952
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:16,120
Speaker 3: the parents, so Peter and Kate, Frank everyone, because they

953
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:18,879
Speaker 3: put all those fucking kids in coach while they flew

954
00:48:18,920 --> 00:48:22,480
Speaker 3: first class, so they effectively made all those little fucking

955
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 3: kids someone else's problem. Some poor fucking flight attendant had

956
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,879
Speaker 3: to deal with Buzz and his leering, creepy shit had

957
00:48:29,880 --> 00:48:33,719
Speaker 3: to deal with fucking pretentious ass sister who's like you're in.

958
00:48:33,880 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 2: What they call a laisying and competent.

959
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,480
Speaker 3: Like you think she's gonna be nice to a fucking

960
00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 3: flight attendant, She's gonna be like server, I want a

961
00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 3: cramberry juice, Like all these little fucking pissant shit heads

962
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,600
Speaker 3: fullers gonna be pissing on seats and puking all over

963
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 3: the place.

964
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:47,719
Speaker 2: Aha.

965
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:52,120
Speaker 3: They just left these kids with no parental supervision in

966
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,360
Speaker 3: coach and made it a flight attendants problem.

967
00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:57,200
Speaker 2: So fuck them.

968
00:48:57,360 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 4: Oh absolutely.

969
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:02,120
Speaker 1: And there was a moment where Kate actually like turns

970
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,279
Speaker 1: to Peter and is like, is it weird that we're

971
00:49:04,800 --> 00:49:07,399
Speaker 1: in first class and He's like, Nope, not at all.

972
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:12,760
Speaker 1: They're having a fucking blast. Let's just fine, dine babe.

973
00:49:13,680 --> 00:49:15,480
Speaker 3: And let me tell you there, there is a part

974
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:19,320
Speaker 3: of me that I understand the instinct of like flying

975
00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,560
Speaker 3: as hard where adults were stressed out, Being on a

976
00:49:22,600 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 3: plane for a kid is always going to be a

977
00:49:24,600 --> 00:49:28,640
Speaker 3: fun adventure unless they're afraid of heights or have something

978
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:31,319
Speaker 3: else going on. But for the most part, base level,

979
00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,400
Speaker 3: it's gonna be fun. Let's just relax up here. However,

980
00:49:34,560 --> 00:49:37,600
Speaker 3: you are shirking all of your parental duties for like

981
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,040
Speaker 3: a nine hour fucking flight.

982
00:49:39,360 --> 00:49:42,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think you get to do that.

983
00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 2: I don't think you get to do that. Yeah.

984
00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:50,640
Speaker 1: I mean this is technically the eighties where basically kids

985
00:49:50,640 --> 00:49:52,960
Speaker 1: were I guess still second class citizens and no one

986
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 1: give a fuck about their happiness. But at the same time,

987
00:49:55,960 --> 00:49:59,440
Speaker 1: just as a person from person to person, like have

988
00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:01,240
Speaker 1: some respect, act and don't drop.

989
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:05,120
Speaker 4: Your kids off and coach for us to deal with, right.

990
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,440
Speaker 3: And also, maybe you would have noticed your fucking kid

991
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 3: wasn't there if you were sitting with your kids on

992
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:15,040
Speaker 3: the goddamn plane. Maybe it would have caught on a

993
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:19,240
Speaker 3: little bit sooner if you were with them on the flight, right.

994
00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: Oh h one hundred percent.

995
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: That's something that I am just realizing as you said it,

996
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,920
Speaker 1: Like they would know that their kid was missing if

997
00:50:26,920 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: they were sitting with them.

998
00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, so ass holes, assholes putting your own comfort

999
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:38,120
Speaker 3: above and really putting your own comfort above the experience

1000
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:40,400
Speaker 3: that whatever flight attendant back there is having because they

1001
00:50:40,440 --> 00:50:42,960
Speaker 3: are having the worst flight of their fucking lives.

1002
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 2: With all those kids back there.

1003
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 3: The final true Christmas asshole and home alone for me

1004
00:50:48,960 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 3: is the police. Yees so much to ks So. To

1005
00:50:54,360 --> 00:50:58,439
Speaker 3: Kate's credit, she tries to call.

1006
00:50:58,320 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: As soon as she lands.

1007
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:00,920
Speaker 3: There's a big storm that knocked out the power and

1008
00:51:00,960 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 3: the phone lines aren't really working. She does her best

1009
00:51:03,680 --> 00:51:06,440
Speaker 3: to try to get in contact with Kevin. When she

1010
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 3: can't call the house directly, she calls the cops, which

1011
00:51:09,400 --> 00:51:11,200
Speaker 3: I feel like it's the natural thing to do.

1012
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:12,480
Speaker 2: It made sense to me in the script.

1013
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: And the police from the minute she calls they're like,

1014
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:19,399
Speaker 3: there's this hyper woman on the phone that I don't

1015
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 3: want to deal with, and they basically don't even want

1016
00:51:22,000 --> 00:51:23,840
Speaker 3: to listen to her. She's like, my child is home alone,

1017
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: and they're like, ah, that's for a different department and

1018
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:31,399
Speaker 3: I'm like, what what kind of Like they're just like, yeah,

1019
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:32,040
Speaker 3: that ain't us.

1020
00:51:32,239 --> 00:51:34,239
Speaker 2: This is not a real emergency. And the cop even

1021
00:51:34,280 --> 00:51:35,920
Speaker 2: goes so far as to be like, is the child

1022
00:51:35,960 --> 00:51:37,880
Speaker 2: involved in like some criminal.

1023
00:51:37,719 --> 00:51:41,080
Speaker 3: Activity and she's like, no, he's eight and he's alone

1024
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:45,520
Speaker 3: at home, Like and you literally not do anything. So first, assholes,

1025
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:47,720
Speaker 3: because they're just passing her around the station like nobody

1026
00:51:47,760 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 3: wants to deal with her. Second asshole move is when

1027
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 3: they do show up, they knock on the door and

1028
00:51:55,200 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 3: that's it.

1029
00:51:57,320 --> 00:51:59,640
Speaker 2: They are so fucking lazy.

1030
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:02,760
Speaker 3: They walk away from a kid alone in a house,

1031
00:52:03,280 --> 00:52:07,400
Speaker 3: a kid who has undoubtedly been taught not to answer

1032
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,200
Speaker 3: the goddamn door for strangers, and they make zero fucking

1033
00:52:11,200 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 3: effort beyond that, there's no fucking battering ram. I've seen

1034
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,720
Speaker 3: cops make more of an effort to enter a house

1035
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,760
Speaker 3: to kill this is so mean, but to kill innocent people.

1036
00:52:23,960 --> 00:52:28,600
Speaker 2: Then they have to try to get this child, this saintsy.

1037
00:52:29,239 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: They make zero effort, and the cop is pissed.

1038
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:34,120
Speaker 3: About it when he walks away where he's just like,

1039
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,000
Speaker 3: I don't even know why the fuck I'm here. There's

1040
00:52:36,000 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 3: nobody here, and I'm like, uh, or there's a child

1041
00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:41,320
Speaker 3: alone and dead in the house somewhere and you're making

1042
00:52:41,400 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 3: no effort to find him or help him, just zero effort.

1043
00:52:45,680 --> 00:52:48,200
Speaker 2: So fucking lazy do not.

1044
00:52:48,280 --> 00:52:50,040
Speaker 3: They don't want to listen to the parents, they don't

1045
00:52:50,040 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 3: want to hear kate, They don't give a fuck because

1046
00:52:52,560 --> 00:52:55,319
Speaker 3: that was that's where you naturally go in the film.

1047
00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:58,640
Speaker 3: It's like, oh, an eight year old kid probably taught

1048
00:52:58,680 --> 00:53:01,200
Speaker 3: to call the cops for help, and then you realize

1049
00:53:01,200 --> 00:53:03,399
Speaker 3: why he didn't do that because their piece is.

1050
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: Oh shit, yo, and this is a rich white people's neighborhood.

1051
00:53:07,480 --> 00:53:12,839
Speaker 1: They actually should care those people probably you know, are

1052
00:53:12,920 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 1: the only people that they should care about, and yet

1053
00:53:17,080 --> 00:53:19,960
Speaker 1: they still don't give a fuck. And it's during the

1054
00:53:19,960 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: holidays when they should be patrolled in the damn neighborhood

1055
00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,919
Speaker 1: because literally everybody in their neighborhood went out of town,

1056
00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:29,160
Speaker 1: like no one is available, and a rolodex of people,

1057
00:53:29,560 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 1: they can't find one person who is at home. None

1058
00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, but you know what, let me

1059
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,640
Speaker 1: tell you something. If you would have fucking gotten old

1060
00:53:39,680 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: Man Marley's phone number and been a good neighbor, he

1061
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:44,560
Speaker 1: would have calm and checked in on your fucking son.

1062
00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:49,520
Speaker 1: But since y'all are convinced that he's a fucking murderer, just.

1063
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:53,120
Speaker 2: Saying look that hit me so hard this time.

1064
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,640
Speaker 3: Or I'm like that scene in the church where he's like, hey,

1065
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,720
Speaker 3: you can say hi to me and I'm your neighbor,

1066
00:53:57,800 --> 00:54:01,120
Speaker 3: and like has an actual conversation with Kevin, and I'm like, see,

1067
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:03,680
Speaker 3: even now, you still won't say to this man, hey,

1068
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 3: by the way, I'm home by myself and I need

1069
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:08,280
Speaker 3: some help. He could have just been chilling with fucking

1070
00:54:08,280 --> 00:54:12,400
Speaker 3: old Man Marley looking at old pictures of fucking ebbetts

1071
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 3: Field or whatever, or like this is when we finally

1072
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:23,160
Speaker 3: got stadium lights, and they could have been happened, like

1073
00:54:23,200 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 3: this is the time I sat next to John Cusack

1074
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 3: had a game, like they could have been having a

1075
00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:27,600
Speaker 3: good old fucking time.

1076
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1077
00:54:29,239 --> 00:54:32,600
Speaker 3: But even then, even when he finally thaws and it's

1078
00:54:32,640 --> 00:54:36,600
Speaker 3: like this guy's actually a nice old grandpa, he still

1079
00:54:36,640 --> 00:54:40,080
Speaker 3: doesn't ask him for help. Yeah, and this family doesn't

1080
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 3: even consider calling him, and instead they rely on the police,

1081
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:47,400
Speaker 3: who give zero shits about this child.

1082
00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,319
Speaker 2: Zero shits about this child. They don't even come back.

1083
00:54:50,320 --> 00:54:52,959
Speaker 1: They're not even like, well, come back later, because Kevin

1084
00:54:53,040 --> 00:54:55,040
Speaker 1: is in and out of that house all fucking day.

1085
00:54:55,320 --> 00:54:56,800
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, So if they'd.

1086
00:54:56,600 --> 00:54:58,440
Speaker 3: Even just like come back, they would have seen him

1087
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,480
Speaker 3: walk in with his groceries and walk like just saw

1088
00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,880
Speaker 3: half the tree down to make a Christmas tree, and

1089
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 3: like they would have seen him. That's right, fuck him.

1090
00:55:08,360 --> 00:55:12,520
Speaker 3: Three primary Christmas assholes in home alone. Sorry to ruin

1091
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,400
Speaker 3: it for you, hope I didn't, But next time you

1092
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:16,839
Speaker 3: watch it, you won't be thinking about this shit.

1093
00:55:17,320 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: Well, I personally love it. I am so glad that

1094
00:55:21,040 --> 00:55:25,200
Speaker 1: you made this selection this year, because it is truly

1095
00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:28,640
Speaker 1: a wealth of assholes for this Christmas movie. And I

1096
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:33,799
Speaker 1: want to float one idea towards you. Yeah, I don't know,

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00:55:34,080 --> 00:55:37,520
Speaker 1: I am certain I'm probably not the only person that

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00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:42,200
Speaker 1: has thought about this. Hell, people of our generation, you

1099
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 1: know what they like to do. They like to get

1100
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:46,280
Speaker 1: on the internet and fucking give all their damn theories

1101
00:55:46,320 --> 00:55:49,319
Speaker 1: about every fucking movie that we grew up with. So

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00:55:49,960 --> 00:55:52,520
Speaker 1: I promise you I've not researched this. This is right

1103
00:55:52,560 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: off the dome, this viewing. I am convinced that Kevin

1104
00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:06,359
Speaker 1: was killed when he climbed the shelf and Buzzes room

1105
00:56:06,800 --> 00:56:13,680
Speaker 1: and fell down, and that maybe everything he experiences after

1106
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:16,360
Speaker 1: this death is as an angel.

1107
00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:25,240
Speaker 2: Okay, you have rocked my fucking world. Here's why sends shits.

1108
00:56:25,760 --> 00:56:29,640
Speaker 1: And here's why a fucking tarantula tank fell on his head.

1109
00:56:29,840 --> 00:56:34,440
Speaker 1: Like when he comes out of that rubble, when he

1110
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:40,280
Speaker 1: comes out of the rubble of like seven or eight shelves.

1111
00:56:39,400 --> 00:56:42,800
Speaker 2: Of fucking bullshit books.

1112
00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:49,200
Speaker 1: That he comes out underneath a plank, So he was

1113
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:52,120
Speaker 1: bludgeoned with one of the pieces of wood.

1114
00:56:52,280 --> 00:56:54,400
Speaker 4: But then the tarantula tank is right on top of it.

1115
00:56:54,480 --> 00:57:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, yo, Kevin's young, unformed skull was completely smashed

1116
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: by Buzz's tretchel at tank. He died, He fucking died,

1117
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:12,799
Speaker 1: And there's whatever is happening now We're like through the

1118
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: looking glass like he he died and that was the

1119
00:57:16,360 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: fever dream.

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00:57:18,920 --> 00:57:21,440
Speaker 3: This is like on your way, this is what you

1121
00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 3: see before you died. This is what Kevin envisions before

1122
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 3: he dies. My family left me alone and I died

1123
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,640
Speaker 3: from their negligence. I fucking love it. This is the

1124
00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,400
Speaker 3: only theory that pans out for me from now on.

1125
00:57:33,560 --> 00:57:35,720
Speaker 3: This is it, because how else would he come up

1126
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:40,160
Speaker 3: with these elabric Rube Goldberg fucking fucking pranks. Oh yeah,

1127
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:41,960
Speaker 3: for a kid who doesn't even know how to pack

1128
00:57:41,960 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: a suitcase when this movie starts.

1129
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:44,760
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, like.

1130
00:57:44,760 --> 00:57:47,520
Speaker 1: He's a fucking angel pulling all this shit. There's no

1131
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 1: there's no fucking way because you know, basically, he went

1132
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,200
Speaker 1: up the shelf because he had to get that money.

1133
00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:54,720
Speaker 4: To go to the grocery store because they had to

1134
00:57:54,840 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 4: feed himself.

1135
00:57:56,160 --> 00:57:59,200
Speaker 1: And you know, he takes a tumble and that shit,

1136
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:02,320
Speaker 1: the look at the shelves, all of that shit.

1137
00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:03,000
Speaker 4: Fell on top of him.

1138
00:58:03,000 --> 00:58:08,080
Speaker 1: He comes up from below planks of wood and I

1139
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 1: don't know if you've ever had a fish tank in

1140
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: your house, but like those things are fucking heavy as fuck.

1141
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,000
Speaker 4: Like, there's no way, there's no way he survives it.

1142
00:58:17,160 --> 00:58:19,760
Speaker 3: The planks are jagged when he falls, like they break

1143
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 3: in a way that it's like there's definitely sharps all

1144
00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 3: over the fucking ends of those things. And look, I

1145
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,720
Speaker 3: don't know shit about babies. I don't know when that

1146
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,280
Speaker 3: fontanelle closes, but I feel like an eight year old

1147
00:58:31,320 --> 00:58:34,600
Speaker 3: skull probably still has a soft spot or two just

1148
00:58:34,640 --> 00:58:39,880
Speaker 3: floating around, or at least it's like small enough to

1149
00:58:40,000 --> 00:58:42,080
Speaker 3: not be able to bear the weight of like an

1150
00:58:42,120 --> 00:58:42,840
Speaker 3: adult skull.

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00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: Uh. I'm currently re registering into grad school just so

1152
00:58:50,440 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 1: I could make my thesis this if it hasn't been

1153
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,640
Speaker 1: already been somebody's thesis. I mean, I'm putting it out there.

1154
00:58:55,720 --> 00:58:59,000
Speaker 1: I think Kevin was murdered by a tarantula tank and

1155
00:58:59,280 --> 00:59:01,200
Speaker 1: exists in the rest of the movie as an angel.

1156
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,640
Speaker 2: Just we want to see the documentary. I want to

1157
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 2: see the short.

1158
00:59:04,200 --> 00:59:09,560
Speaker 1: Film what's that shining documentary that came out the room

1159
00:59:09,640 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: two forty six or whatever? Let's like do with three

1160
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:16,640
Speaker 1: hour fucking conspiracy documentary about home alone.

1161
00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 2: I will personally fund it like a fucking psycho.

1162
00:59:22,280 --> 00:59:24,360
Speaker 1: Anyway, I just had to put that out there and

1163
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:25,320
Speaker 1: see what you thought.

1164
00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:26,840
Speaker 4: I just had to put it out there.

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00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:31,840
Speaker 1: My world is rocked. My world is rocked. Oh it's

1166
00:59:31,920 --> 00:59:38,400
Speaker 1: Room two thirty seven. Thank you, Casey, because emails, it's.

1167
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 3: Not Frankenstein's, it's franken Sein's monster and it's Room through

1168
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:44,360
Speaker 3: thirty seven.

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00:59:45,520 --> 00:59:46,480
Speaker 2: We corrected it.

1170
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:49,000
Speaker 4: Calm down, people, we corrected it.

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00:59:50,080 --> 00:59:54,240
Speaker 2: Jesus, holy shit. Yeah, my world is fucking rocked. I can't.

1172
00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 3: I already had thoughts about this family that were taking

1173
00:59:59,240 --> 01:00:01,440
Speaker 3: me to dark place. Is the fact that this child

1174
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 3: is now I think is dead. This whole film raise

1175
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:09,120
Speaker 3: is the fucking stakes.

1176
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:09,640
Speaker 2: I can't.

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01:00:10,720 --> 01:00:15,520
Speaker 1: We have put forth a lot of a lot of

1178
01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,600
Speaker 1: things and theories that people will hate us for.

1179
01:00:19,360 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 4: And I love it. I love that. I love to

1180
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:23,040
Speaker 4: do it. I love that you picked it.

1181
01:00:23,160 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: I love You've created this entire mythology around the evil

1182
01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,600
Speaker 1: McAllister clan.

1183
01:00:29,360 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed, like it's where my head is.

1184
01:00:32,640 --> 01:00:35,200
Speaker 3: And I will take down a holiday classic because I'm

1185
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:37,240
Speaker 3: a curmudgeing the old bitch right now.

1186
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:41,240
Speaker 2: That's just how it is. I'll take it down. Well.

1187
01:00:41,320 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: Speaking of takedowns, hell yeah.

1188
01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:56,640
Speaker 4: Here goes my cinepha cred. You want to talk about

1189
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:57,439
Speaker 4: my movie now?

1190
01:00:58,040 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 2: Fuck yeah, I dude, or we can keep talking.

1191
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 3: Kevin mccowsor being dead because I'm never getting over that shit.

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01:01:03,560 --> 01:01:03,800
Speaker 2: Shit.

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01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,800
Speaker 4: Maybe Kevin mcowsor worked for the CIA, Who the fuck know?

1194
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,960
Speaker 2: My god, oh my god, he was part of it.

1195
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 1: So my movie for the theme Christmas Assholes was a

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01:01:15,400 --> 01:01:18,560
Speaker 1: movie that was made in nineteen seventy five. The screenplay

1197
01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,480
Speaker 1: was by Lorenzo Semple Junior and David Raffel, based on

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01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:25,400
Speaker 1: the book Six Days of the Condor by James Grady,

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01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 1: directed by Sydney Pollock. And it's called three Days of

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01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 1: the Condor.

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01:01:31,240 --> 01:01:34,360
Speaker 2: Something has happened, Section nine, Department seventeenth.

1202
01:01:34,400 --> 01:01:39,360
Speaker 1: The section has been hit one level level level of damage. Everybody,

1203
01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:43,000
Speaker 1: doctor lap, Janis Ray Harold, everybody is dead.

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01:01:43,120 --> 01:01:47,480
Speaker 3: I'm glad they cut these days in half. I couldn't

1205
01:01:47,520 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 3: take six days of the Condor.

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01:01:49,560 --> 01:01:49,800
Speaker 2: Shit.

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01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:52,120
Speaker 1: They looked at that script and was like, yop, gotta

1208
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:57,040
Speaker 1: cut this by three days. Can't have a six day shit?

1209
01:01:57,400 --> 01:01:58,960
Speaker 1: What are we trying to make a mini series?

1210
01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 2: What is this?

1211
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:05,680
Speaker 3: The fucking what was that Richard Chamberlain mini series? The

1212
01:02:06,120 --> 01:02:12,960
Speaker 3: I want to say, the Thunderbirds, the birds birds, Yeah,

1213
01:02:13,080 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 3: this is the fucking Thornbirds. He left Condor. I cut

1214
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 3: the Condor in half.

1215
01:02:19,800 --> 01:02:21,640
Speaker 1: Oh, shit, so that you know, listen, I mean, this

1216
01:02:21,720 --> 01:02:26,200
Speaker 1: is very less obvious than your selection. But this movie

1217
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:30,600
Speaker 1: does take place during Christmas because we see Santa hats,

1218
01:02:30,760 --> 01:02:34,000
Speaker 1: Christmas trees, people are singing Christmas carols in the background,

1219
01:02:34,280 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: and that's all you need to make a Christmas movie

1220
01:02:37,040 --> 01:02:40,440
Speaker 1: according to the Internet. And yeah, and the programming department

1221
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:41,560
Speaker 1: at Turner Classic Movies.

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01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:46,200
Speaker 4: So so look we.

1223
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:52,480
Speaker 1: So for this film, we again have the pairing of

1224
01:02:52,560 --> 01:02:57,760
Speaker 1: the director Sidney Pollock and the actor Robert Redford. They

1225
01:02:57,800 --> 01:03:02,680
Speaker 1: work together several times, and we've talked about one of

1226
01:03:02,680 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 1: their movies before. It was a very early episode. We

1227
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:11,840
Speaker 1: talked about the way we were very first classic movie

1228
01:03:11,880 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 1: fuck Boy episode. And I'll just say it right now,

1229
01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:20,840
Speaker 1: I am not sure Robert Redford's character is any more

1230
01:03:20,880 --> 01:03:24,160
Speaker 1: likable in Three Days of the Condor than he was

1231
01:03:24,280 --> 01:03:25,640
Speaker 1: as fucking Hubble.

1232
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:26,320
Speaker 2: Okay.

1233
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:30,440
Speaker 3: Oh, first tip off that he's not any more likable

1234
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:31,840
Speaker 3: is that, and I know.

1235
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,600
Speaker 2: We'll talk about it.

1236
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 3: But his girlfriend gets murdered and within a day he's

1237
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:36,880
Speaker 3: fucking Fay done away.

1238
01:03:37,560 --> 01:03:41,480
Speaker 2: God, we will talk about that for sure.

1239
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:46,040
Speaker 1: And that's the thing is that he's maybe slightly more

1240
01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:49,200
Speaker 1: sympathetic in three Days of the Condor because his coworkers

1241
01:03:49,240 --> 01:03:50,280
Speaker 1: and his girlfriend are.

1242
01:03:50,240 --> 01:03:53,400
Speaker 2: Shot dead within the first ten minutes of the movie.

1243
01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:55,960
Speaker 3: But that's the only thing that makes him sympathetic is

1244
01:03:55,960 --> 01:04:00,240
Speaker 3: that he's confused. He's a confused hubble essentially, yes, because

1245
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:03,120
Speaker 3: before that it's all bravado and all fucking like I'm

1246
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,600
Speaker 3: king shit of fuck Mountain, and then he comes into

1247
01:04:05,600 --> 01:04:09,720
Speaker 3: a murder scene and he's like, m get confused, maybe

1248
01:04:09,800 --> 01:04:10,560
Speaker 3: feel bad for me.

1249
01:04:12,200 --> 01:04:14,880
Speaker 1: Well, look, if you have only if for some reason,

1250
01:04:14,920 --> 01:04:16,760
Speaker 1: you have only listened to this podcast and you know

1251
01:04:17,000 --> 01:04:20,280
Speaker 1: very little of Robert Redford's career, we have only picked

1252
01:04:20,280 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: his least charming roles, and I have to apologize for that, Okay, Like.

1253
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:32,960
Speaker 3: I vow in our third year of this podcast that

1254
01:04:33,080 --> 01:04:36,880
Speaker 3: we will have a theme where we apologize to Robert Redford.

1255
01:04:37,080 --> 01:04:40,560
Speaker 1: Yes, like we're gonna have to do like the Hot

1256
01:04:40,680 --> 01:04:45,280
Speaker 1: Rock or like Sundance Kid or fucking Legal Eagles or something.

1257
01:04:45,320 --> 01:04:47,840
Speaker 2: We gotta make this right. We gotta make this right.

1258
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 3: Maybe we don't. Maybe his career is just out there.

1259
01:04:51,640 --> 01:04:54,160
Speaker 3: Find it on your own. It speaks for itself. Sometimes

1260
01:04:54,200 --> 01:04:56,960
Speaker 3: great actors make shit films and we're allowed to talk

1261
01:04:57,000 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: about how these characters are not great, and he also

1262
01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:04,439
Speaker 3: inflicted the Sundance catalog upon us, so maybe we don't

1263
01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:05,840
Speaker 3: get to talk about his good movies.

1264
01:05:06,480 --> 01:05:08,200
Speaker 1: Well, you know, and like we talked about him as

1265
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:10,640
Speaker 1: a director when we did Ordinary People, okay, and like,

1266
01:05:11,000 --> 01:05:14,880
Speaker 1: he is a beloved actor. He's been in so many films,

1267
01:05:14,880 --> 01:05:18,240
Speaker 1: he's like fucking Hollywood royalty at this point. But for

1268
01:05:18,280 --> 01:05:21,160
Speaker 1: some reason, we've only talked about films where he is

1269
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:22,320
Speaker 1: an asshole.

1270
01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:22,880
Speaker 2: In these roles.

1271
01:05:23,080 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 4: And I don't, like I said, I don't know why.

1272
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,120
Speaker 1: I want to give him the benefit of the doubt

1273
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:28,880
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be like he's just a

1274
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:30,840
Speaker 1: hot blonde fuck him.

1275
01:05:31,040 --> 01:05:34,360
Speaker 3: Well, the two things don't have to be mutually exclusive.

1276
01:05:34,400 --> 01:05:38,360
Speaker 3: He can be a beloved actor who plays dix. Yes, yeah,

1277
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:39,560
Speaker 3: oh yeah, definitely.

1278
01:05:39,760 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 1: And let me just get into this movie a little

1279
01:05:43,600 --> 01:05:44,919
Speaker 1: bit because I'm good.

1280
01:05:45,760 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 4: I don't even know what to say.

1281
01:05:46,960 --> 01:05:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's sort of like Three Days in a

1282
01:05:50,160 --> 01:05:54,280
Speaker 1: Condor is basically at bare minimum. It's a tense thriller

1283
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 1: about people who work in the very secretive world of

1284
01:05:57,800 --> 01:06:02,280
Speaker 1: the CIA. Okay, And if you're like me, there will

1285
01:06:02,320 --> 01:06:05,280
Speaker 1: be times in this movie where you'll be like, oh, Wow, Like,

1286
01:06:05,400 --> 01:06:09,160
Speaker 1: what a fascinating clandestine environment for a movie.

1287
01:06:08,880 --> 01:06:09,440
Speaker 4: To happen in.

1288
01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: Wow.

1289
01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,480
Speaker 1: And then there will be times where we're gonna be like,

1290
01:06:12,880 --> 01:06:14,720
Speaker 1: I'm very confused about what's going on.

1291
01:06:16,040 --> 01:06:17,680
Speaker 2: Who's the villain exactly?

1292
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:20,920
Speaker 4: How does the CIA actually work?

1293
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 2: Okay?

1294
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:26,080
Speaker 1: So Robert Redford plays this man named Joe Turner. His

1295
01:06:26,280 --> 01:06:30,400
Speaker 1: code name is Condor, and right out of the gate,

1296
01:06:30,840 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: I find myself confused by what his role is in

1297
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:36,560
Speaker 1: the CIA and if it's an actual thing. Okay, thank

1298
01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:39,840
Speaker 1: you forget First of all, I forgive me upfront for

1299
01:06:39,960 --> 01:06:43,240
Speaker 1: not knowing. I know nothing about the CIA. I think

1300
01:06:43,240 --> 01:06:45,800
Speaker 1: it's by design. I don't think they want us to

1301
01:06:45,840 --> 01:06:46,480
Speaker 1: know what they do.

1302
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:52,120
Speaker 3: What you don't know anything about the CIA, I've been duped.

1303
01:06:52,880 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 2: I have no idea what how it works.

1304
01:06:54,840 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 4: Okay.

1305
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:59,760
Speaker 1: So, so Condor in the film, at the very beginning,

1306
01:06:59,800 --> 01:07:02,880
Speaker 1: he's working with this like small group of people at

1307
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:06,680
Speaker 1: this place called the American Literary Historical Society.

1308
01:07:06,800 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 4: It's in New York City.

1309
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,640
Speaker 1: Essentially, what it is is affront for this entire division

1310
01:07:14,040 --> 01:07:20,720
Speaker 1: of the CIA, whose jobs it is to read books

1311
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: and newspapers and stuff to find possible ideas or codes

1312
01:07:27,040 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: or operations that maybe one of our enemies can use

1313
01:07:29,800 --> 01:07:31,240
Speaker 1: like tucked inside the books.

1314
01:07:31,920 --> 01:07:32,120
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1315
01:07:32,280 --> 01:07:35,000
Speaker 3: I was confused from the jump. I was like, huh right,

1316
01:07:35,080 --> 01:07:38,439
Speaker 3: they're not code breakers, they're like reading books to see

1317
01:07:38,480 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 3: if there's even a code there. Yes, it's code makers.

1318
01:07:42,520 --> 01:07:45,920
Speaker 1: Like yeah, like they're the ones who are going to

1319
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:51,040
Speaker 1: find out if like an enemy country of ours is

1320
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 1: taking the plot of are you there? God, it's me,

1321
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,360
Speaker 1: Margaret and using it to make crimes.

1322
01:07:58,120 --> 01:07:59,439
Speaker 2: I mean, is this like a real thing?

1323
01:08:00,120 --> 01:08:04,880
Speaker 4: Is this a real CIA things?

1324
01:08:05,160 --> 01:08:07,480
Speaker 2: Not gonna lie? Is this what the da Vinci code

1325
01:08:07,560 --> 01:08:11,600
Speaker 2: is about? I don't know. I don't know. I'm very stupid. No,

1326
01:08:11,840 --> 01:08:13,400
Speaker 2: I don't know either. And here's the thing.

1327
01:08:13,440 --> 01:08:15,960
Speaker 3: If it, it's just absurd enough that it's probably true.

1328
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,800
Speaker 3: But who knows. They probably just computerize all of it now.

1329
01:08:18,960 --> 01:08:21,880
Speaker 3: But like we don't know any we don't know thinking

1330
01:08:21,880 --> 01:08:23,000
Speaker 3: about the CIA, So who knows?

1331
01:08:23,080 --> 01:08:26,519
Speaker 1: Yes, So already from JOHNP I'm very confused by the job,

1332
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:28,360
Speaker 1: by the whole organization.

1333
01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 3: Okay, So essentially, why have the front? Why have the

1334
01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,160
Speaker 3: front if nobody knows what it is anyway?

1335
01:08:34,360 --> 01:08:35,520
Speaker 4: Exactly exactly?

1336
01:08:35,600 --> 01:08:38,920
Speaker 1: And so when when you get behind the walls of

1337
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,960
Speaker 1: this place, you see Condor and its coworkers and they're

1338
01:08:42,000 --> 01:08:46,000
Speaker 1: just like feeding books into this like cartoonishly giant nineteen

1339
01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:47,280
Speaker 1: seventies supercomputer.

1340
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:52,040
Speaker 2: I want that scanner so bad. Oh yeah, it's.

1341
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,960
Speaker 4: There's a lot of like old fucking funny tech in

1342
01:08:55,000 --> 01:08:55,479
Speaker 4: this movie.

1343
01:08:55,520 --> 01:08:56,600
Speaker 2: I love it.

1344
01:08:56,760 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 1: So one afternoon, Condor goes out to lunch, literally goes

1345
01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 1: out to lunch and comes back and everybody in the

1346
01:09:02,920 --> 01:09:08,920
Speaker 1: office has been shot fucking dead. Okay, and again, because

1347
01:09:08,960 --> 01:09:11,080
Speaker 1: I don't know anything about the CIA, I'm like, oh,

1348
01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:15,160
Speaker 1: this is a CIA office already, I question why it's

1349
01:09:15,200 --> 01:09:19,920
Speaker 1: the most easily breached building in all of government history. Like, yes,

1350
01:09:19,960 --> 01:09:22,800
Speaker 1: the back door's just open all the time, and the

1351
01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:25,880
Speaker 1: front door is being guarded by an old lady who

1352
01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,720
Speaker 1: smokes cigarettes and like a mall cop essentially.

1353
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:34,320
Speaker 3: But the thing, oh it's me is like Turner is,

1354
01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:38,479
Speaker 3: so this is such a low rent, low security system.

1355
01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:41,360
Speaker 3: He doesn't even realize he's looking at dead bodies when

1356
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:43,479
Speaker 3: he first gets in there, like he's part of the

1357
01:09:43,520 --> 01:09:45,719
Speaker 3: CIA and does not know what a dead body looks

1358
01:09:45,800 --> 01:09:47,400
Speaker 3: like because he's like, what the fuck's going on?

1359
01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:49,320
Speaker 2: Like the door's open, I guess this is fine.

1360
01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:54,439
Speaker 1: Yeah, So like a so professional hitman got into this

1361
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:56,840
Speaker 1: building minimal security.

1362
01:09:58,120 --> 01:09:58,759
Speaker 4: I'm shocked.

1363
01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:03,599
Speaker 1: And this sets the entire film in motion basically where

1364
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: Condor comes in, everyone's dead. He realizes that somebody has

1365
01:10:09,760 --> 01:10:13,080
Speaker 1: hit his the whole department, and now he's being hunted

1366
01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,400
Speaker 1: by whoever is doing it or whoever it had done

1367
01:10:15,400 --> 01:10:19,200
Speaker 1: it right, And immediately he reaches out to his bosses

1368
01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,160
Speaker 1: at the CIA to bring him home or whatever, and

1369
01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:25,200
Speaker 1: then quickly realizes, oh, they're sort of fucking in on

1370
01:10:25,240 --> 01:10:29,320
Speaker 1: it too. It's a very seventies movie scenario of like

1371
01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:33,960
Speaker 1: high key paranoia. Condor is just having to watch his back.

1372
01:10:34,080 --> 01:10:39,200
Speaker 1: He can't trust anything or anyone, very stressful. One of

1373
01:10:39,240 --> 01:10:42,240
Speaker 1: his managers is this guy named Higgins, and he's played

1374
01:10:42,240 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 1: by Craggy Hot Royalty himself, Cliff robertson maybe the most

1375
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: insane rug I've ever seen in my life. About right

1376
01:10:54,280 --> 01:10:57,360
Speaker 1: with this rug, I mean, look, I don't want to

1377
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: say I don't know if it's so. I don't know

1378
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,040
Speaker 1: if he was actually bald, Like I don't know if

1379
01:11:01,080 --> 01:11:03,400
Speaker 1: the actor Cliff Robinson was actually bald in War two.

1380
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: Pay But like Trump ain't got nothing on this swoop.

1381
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:10,320
Speaker 1: Let me just say that right now, wigs in the

1382
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:12,800
Speaker 1: seventies were shrugs to fucking funk.

1383
01:11:12,800 --> 01:11:13,559
Speaker 2: They're like, I don't know.

1384
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,920
Speaker 3: Use beaver hair, like we don't they that wasn't even

1385
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:16,479
Speaker 3: human hair.

1386
01:11:16,520 --> 01:11:19,320
Speaker 2: They were like, we don't know, Like, let's use yarn and.

1387
01:11:19,280 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 3: Use some fucking Rapunzel like like spin some fucking shit

1388
01:11:22,360 --> 01:11:25,599
Speaker 3: into hair and try to make it look real.

1389
01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:27,719
Speaker 2: It was real.

1390
01:11:27,680 --> 01:11:32,160
Speaker 1: Nest like, oh, it was a nest like endeavor, absolutely nesty,

1391
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,600
Speaker 1: And like you know, Higgins, by the way, definitely a

1392
01:11:35,640 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: Christmas asshole.

1393
01:11:36,920 --> 01:11:38,479
Speaker 2: No doubt, no doubt.

1394
01:11:38,560 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: And funnily enough, Higgins is not even the top like

1395
01:11:43,479 --> 01:11:45,679
Speaker 1: he seems to be the puppet of this even bigger

1396
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:49,680
Speaker 1: fucking Cia Battie, who's played by John Houseman of The

1397
01:11:49,720 --> 01:11:51,760
Speaker 1: Paper Chase, where I feel like we bring him up

1398
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 1: like every other episode.

1399
01:11:53,479 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 2: John Houseman has been ninety years old since the day

1400
01:11:55,479 --> 01:11:56,200
Speaker 2: he was fucking born.

1401
01:11:56,280 --> 01:12:00,719
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, And so John Houseman's character and the Cliff

1402
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 1: Robertson character, they're all in on this. They've hired this

1403
01:12:05,720 --> 01:12:12,760
Speaker 1: freelance assassin to handle all of this killing. And I

1404
01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:15,920
Speaker 1: don't know why them calling him in the movie a

1405
01:12:15,960 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: freelance assassin is so funny to me, Like it's awesome.

1406
01:12:20,240 --> 01:12:23,760
Speaker 1: Is he Is he like following up on invoices like

1407
01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:29,560
Speaker 1: most freelancers I know, like freelance assassin sounds so fucking funny.

1408
01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 3: Is he using hubdoc or every sign to keep those receipts?

1409
01:12:33,080 --> 01:12:35,760
Speaker 3: Like I bought nine bullets, I use seven bullets, but

1410
01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,280
Speaker 3: you still have to pay me for nine bullets because

1411
01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:42,760
Speaker 3: I bought them for this job specifically, fucking itemize this shit.

1412
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:47,960
Speaker 3: My travel includes walking creepily to this building, walking creepily

1413
01:12:48,040 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 3: to this car. I did five stakeouts for one dude, Like,

1414
01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:52,879
Speaker 3: come on, a.

1415
01:12:52,760 --> 01:12:57,040
Speaker 1: Freelance assassin, a freelance assassin, and listen.

1416
01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:58,440
Speaker 4: This freelance assassin.

1417
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:02,479
Speaker 1: His character's name him as Jobart, and he's played by

1418
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:05,679
Speaker 1: Maximond seed Owl, who looks like he's in a fucking

1419
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:06,559
Speaker 1: britpop band.

1420
01:13:07,600 --> 01:13:11,320
Speaker 2: I mean, anytime a young Max P. Seed Ow shows up,

1421
01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:12,599
Speaker 2: she's about to get fucked.

1422
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:13,800
Speaker 4: Oh yeah yeah.

1423
01:13:13,840 --> 01:13:15,720
Speaker 1: And he you know, he's the type of assassin that

1424
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 1: works on miniatures in his spare time.

1425
01:13:18,680 --> 01:13:21,960
Speaker 4: It's like that kind of assassin.

1426
01:13:21,600 --> 01:13:23,120
Speaker 2: That has a like hammered hobby.

1427
01:13:24,240 --> 01:13:27,280
Speaker 3: He never takes a break, even his hobbies are fucking stressful.

1428
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 3: He never takes a fucking break.

1429
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,160
Speaker 1: He's living in a holiday inn and he's painting fucking

1430
01:13:32,240 --> 01:13:33,599
Speaker 1: like little car models.

1431
01:13:33,680 --> 01:13:38,120
Speaker 2: Like fuck, dude, Ah, going freelance is a bitch. Going

1432
01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:39,320
Speaker 2: freelance is a bitch.

1433
01:13:40,240 --> 01:13:42,960
Speaker 3: His hair, like, his mustache and his skin are the

1434
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:47,879
Speaker 3: same color. Yeah, it's a weird look, man.

1435
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:54,200
Speaker 1: That's some Scandinavian shit. But look you if you think

1436
01:13:54,240 --> 01:13:57,920
Speaker 1: he's the last guy, no way. This whole thing goes up,

1437
01:13:58,400 --> 01:14:01,680
Speaker 1: way far up the fucking Christmas asshole chain of command

1438
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:06,360
Speaker 1: to this guy named Leonard Atwood who orchestrated pretty much everything.

1439
01:14:06,479 --> 01:14:11,840
Speaker 1: Because I'm not giving away by the way, I think

1440
01:14:11,840 --> 01:14:14,840
Speaker 1: it's impossible to give away anything in this movie because

1441
01:14:14,840 --> 01:14:19,760
Speaker 1: it's so convoluted. So this Leonard Atwood guy is the

1442
01:14:19,800 --> 01:14:22,719
Speaker 1: mastermind behind all of these killings and all of this stocking,

1443
01:14:22,840 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: all this stuff because apparently Contondor in his book Scanning,

1444
01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,519
Speaker 1: accidentally uncovers some kind of secret, say, plot to overtake

1445
01:14:31,560 --> 01:14:33,759
Speaker 1: some like oil fields in the Middle East or something.

1446
01:14:34,400 --> 01:14:36,920
Speaker 4: And so that's why this is all happening.

1447
01:14:36,960 --> 01:14:43,559
Speaker 1: Because Condor filed some report foud some accidental he accidentally

1448
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,160
Speaker 1: stumbled upon this plan.

1449
01:14:46,200 --> 01:14:49,719
Speaker 2: He did his job, that's the thing. He did his job.

1450
01:14:49,800 --> 01:14:51,160
Speaker 2: And everyone got murdered for it.

1451
01:14:51,280 --> 01:14:55,679
Speaker 1: Yes, he just was seriously reading books and got people killed.

1452
01:14:56,240 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 4: And here's the thing.

1453
01:14:57,160 --> 01:15:00,479
Speaker 1: Condor is stressed out, but he eventually realizes that if

1454
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:03,960
Speaker 1: he has any shot at staying alive in this scenario,

1455
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:08,720
Speaker 1: he absolutely has to kidnap a random woman on the

1456
01:15:08,760 --> 01:15:12,640
Speaker 1: street and force her to shelter and protect him.

1457
01:15:15,040 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 3: This is where shit gets like psychedelic, am I taking illist?

1458
01:15:22,200 --> 01:15:26,519
Speaker 1: So this is the part of the movie that we

1459
01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,360
Speaker 1: will be talking a lot about. Okay, so excellent. This

1460
01:15:29,600 --> 01:15:33,080
Speaker 1: random woman that he kidnaps on the street is named Kathy.

1461
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:37,880
Speaker 1: She is played by Faye Dunaway. And this bitch was

1462
01:15:37,960 --> 01:15:42,040
Speaker 1: literally just on her way to go cross countries skiing

1463
01:15:42,080 --> 01:15:46,439
Speaker 1: with her boyfriend before she was kidnapped by Condor outside

1464
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:51,800
Speaker 1: of a sporting goods store and Condor takes her at

1465
01:15:51,800 --> 01:15:57,759
Speaker 1: gunpoint and forces her to take him to her apartment. Okay,

1466
01:15:58,360 --> 01:16:02,400
Speaker 1: and she is fucking terrified. Okay, like it to me.

1467
01:16:02,520 --> 01:16:05,000
Speaker 1: This is not an escapist fantasy of her being like, Ooh,

1468
01:16:05,000 --> 01:16:06,920
Speaker 1: I'm getting caught up with this hot guy who's in

1469
01:16:06,960 --> 01:16:08,320
Speaker 1: the CIA for an afternoon.

1470
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,920
Speaker 4: No, this is scary shit. Like Kathy is freaked out.

1471
01:16:12,360 --> 01:16:16,640
Speaker 1: Condor even if it's like seventies Robert Redford caught, Like

1472
01:16:16,680 --> 01:16:21,800
Speaker 1: even if he's in a classic men's wool pea coat

1473
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,880
Speaker 1: with the collar turned up and he's got fucking David

1474
01:16:24,920 --> 01:16:29,559
Speaker 1: Krush glasses and some turquoise necklace shit like this, that's

1475
01:16:29,920 --> 01:16:33,479
Speaker 1: he ain't charming anybody with any of that. Like he

1476
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,320
Speaker 1: kidnapped the lady. She's scared fucking half to death in

1477
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:40,320
Speaker 1: her own home, didn't even go. Maybe Connoor is a

1478
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:44,799
Speaker 1: Christmas asshole, right, Maybe he definitely is a Christmas asshole.

1479
01:16:44,840 --> 01:16:46,360
Speaker 2: He fucked this woman's whole.

1480
01:16:46,160 --> 01:16:50,200
Speaker 3: Life up and gave her permanent, lasting trauma because he

1481
01:16:50,200 --> 01:16:52,280
Speaker 3: couldn't figure out how to get on a Greyhound bus

1482
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:52,840
Speaker 3: on his own.

1483
01:16:53,360 --> 01:16:55,439
Speaker 1: Like, let me put it to you this way, he

1484
01:16:55,479 --> 01:16:58,439
Speaker 1: has to tie her up anytime he leaves her apartment, Okay,

1485
01:16:58,600 --> 01:17:02,840
Speaker 1: which is harrowing for but then also this is like

1486
01:17:03,920 --> 01:17:06,599
Speaker 1: Kathy is a photographer apparently, and she's got like her

1487
01:17:06,640 --> 01:17:08,480
Speaker 1: photography up in her apartment.

1488
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:10,200
Speaker 2: And within minutes of Condor being in her.

1489
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,880
Speaker 1: Place, he's already like critaking her photography, being like wow,

1490
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,000
Speaker 1: this is pretty sad.

1491
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:18,960
Speaker 4: And bleak, Like who fucking asked you, Condor? Like seriously,

1492
01:17:19,880 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 4: you know what's.

1493
01:17:20,280 --> 01:17:20,920
Speaker 2: Sad and bleak.

1494
01:17:21,640 --> 01:17:26,880
Speaker 3: You kidnapped me from a sporting goods store because you're

1495
01:17:26,920 --> 01:17:29,599
Speaker 3: in the CIA and can't figure out how to get

1496
01:17:29,640 --> 01:17:33,519
Speaker 3: to fucking Washington from New York. That is sad and

1497
01:17:33,560 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 3: bleak to me. Why couldn't you just hijack a car?

1498
01:17:36,520 --> 01:17:40,120
Speaker 3: You know how easy it was to fucking hot wire

1499
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,599
Speaker 3: a car in the seventies. There were no computer parts,

1500
01:17:42,640 --> 01:17:44,479
Speaker 3: like like now, you can't hot wire a car unless

1501
01:17:44,479 --> 01:17:48,080
Speaker 3: you're a fucking mcguiver, like unless you have like a

1502
01:17:48,120 --> 01:17:50,080
Speaker 3: fucking PhD for or like you have to have like

1503
01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:52,799
Speaker 3: an MIT degree to hot wire a car. In the seventies,

1504
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 3: you just had to look at an engine and be

1505
01:17:54,600 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 3: like boom, and it started exactly exactly.

1506
01:17:58,479 --> 01:18:01,200
Speaker 1: But oh, I got to hate him, this poor fucking

1507
01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:05,320
Speaker 1: woman into his scenario. Okay, and listen, before any of you,

1508
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:08,640
Speaker 1: like seventies movie guys, get on my case, like you

1509
01:18:08,720 --> 01:18:15,479
Speaker 1: fucking Tarantino guys get on my case for critiquing Three

1510
01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:18,360
Speaker 1: Days of the Condor, I'm gonna say, in my defense,

1511
01:18:18,840 --> 01:18:23,040
Speaker 1: a lot has been fucking said about this whole aspect

1512
01:18:23,400 --> 01:18:27,720
Speaker 1: to the film, including that one scene in Out of Sight.

1513
01:18:27,880 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 1: Steven Soderberg's movie out of Sight where Jennifer Lopez and

1514
01:18:30,600 --> 01:18:33,320
Speaker 1: fucking George clooneyer in the trunk and they're talking about

1515
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,680
Speaker 1: three days of the Condor Because I don't have to

1516
01:18:36,680 --> 01:18:42,200
Speaker 1: tell you Condor and Kathy get together in an implausible

1517
01:18:42,400 --> 01:18:48,160
Speaker 1: amount of time considering the circumstance, okay, And people because

1518
01:18:48,160 --> 01:18:51,679
Speaker 1: of that, people are like this entire romance subplot has

1519
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:53,559
Speaker 1: killed the movie for me, And I have to say

1520
01:18:53,760 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: they are correct, Okay, Like, yes, I don't need the

1521
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:01,120
Speaker 1: romance to be honest, like I feel, and it doesn't fit.

1522
01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:04,040
Speaker 3: It doesn't make sense at any point from the minute

1523
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 3: they hook up until the end of the film, their

1524
01:19:06,920 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 3: relationship does not make sense.

1525
01:19:08,720 --> 01:19:12,920
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, Like, do we believe that Fade Dunaway's character

1526
01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:17,040
Speaker 1: would suddenly be turned on by a guy who basically

1527
01:19:17,240 --> 01:19:20,400
Speaker 1: forced her at gunpoint to take a nap with him.

1528
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:25,160
Speaker 2: Like, what the fuck is one? I don't want to

1529
01:19:25,200 --> 01:19:26,120
Speaker 2: yuck anyone's yum.

1530
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 3: I'm not gonna kink shame anybody, but that shit is

1531
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,280
Speaker 3: not happening. She is not consensually napping with this motherfucker.

1532
01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:39,120
Speaker 3: And it doesn't just turn into like, hmmm, kind of cute,

1533
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:41,840
Speaker 3: kind of cute force me to take.

1534
01:19:41,720 --> 01:19:44,639
Speaker 2: A nap of them at gunpoint. I'm kind of into him. Listen.

1535
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,200
Speaker 4: And I have seen a lot of Karen Black movies.

1536
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:50,280
Speaker 1: Okay, I this isn't even a Karen Black scenario where

1537
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:54,040
Speaker 1: she's like this like kind of like experimental, free sex

1538
01:19:54,160 --> 01:19:56,719
Speaker 1: hippie who's like, oh cool, yeah, come to my apartment,

1539
01:19:56,800 --> 01:19:58,759
Speaker 1: complete stranger and then we'll just like get together.

1540
01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:00,439
Speaker 2: No, no, no, this is not that character.

1541
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,280
Speaker 1: Like the Kathy character is freaked the fuck out by

1542
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,519
Speaker 1: this guy when she meets him, and then suddenly, in

1543
01:20:06,560 --> 01:20:11,960
Speaker 1: like ten fifteen minutes they're together, And the way that

1544
01:20:12,280 --> 01:20:18,080
Speaker 1: Condor woos her finally is so like he just basically says, listen,

1545
01:20:18,120 --> 01:20:20,360
Speaker 1: I just need a couple hours where I'm not paranoid

1546
01:20:20,400 --> 01:20:22,720
Speaker 1: about something. Can we just have sex so I can

1547
01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,240
Speaker 1: relax for a second. I'm really stressed out.

1548
01:20:26,160 --> 01:20:29,439
Speaker 3: But also, and this is probably the prototype how many

1549
01:20:29,600 --> 01:20:33,479
Speaker 3: fucking dudes in the early aughts have tried to pull

1550
01:20:33,520 --> 01:20:37,800
Speaker 3: that line. He is the living embodiment of just the tip.

1551
01:20:38,040 --> 01:20:43,280
Speaker 3: Fucking Joe Turner is the living embodiment of let's just

1552
01:20:43,360 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 3: cuddle because I'm stressed out. Like fuck, there's a feminist

1553
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:50,920
Speaker 3: viewpoint to this film that needs to be considered, and

1554
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:52,920
Speaker 3: I will not entertain anyone telling me that.

1555
01:20:52,920 --> 01:20:55,120
Speaker 2: This is a plausible situation.

1556
01:20:55,439 --> 01:20:58,240
Speaker 1: Listen, j Loo herself and out of sight is like,

1557
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,800
Speaker 1: I ain't believe in this shit, no fucking way, And

1558
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:05,559
Speaker 1: she was right, and listen to that end, their sex

1559
01:21:05,560 --> 01:21:08,519
Speaker 1: scene is not good, like they're boys where I feel

1560
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,519
Speaker 1: like fade done away is like glitching, Like.

1561
01:21:12,680 --> 01:21:15,599
Speaker 2: I'm like, is this X scene? Is she in pain?

1562
01:21:15,760 --> 01:21:20,000
Speaker 4: Like she is glitching like a motherfucker. It's so real.

1563
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:24,639
Speaker 3: Like ten thousand yard stairs going on during that sex scene.

1564
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:27,719
Speaker 4: So this damply bizarre sex scene.

1565
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: And then immediately after she's all in on helping him

1566
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:37,759
Speaker 1: in any way, including sneaking into CIA headquarters confronting Higgins

1567
01:21:37,760 --> 01:21:42,479
Speaker 1: in a diner, like I'm like, okay, seriously, did Condor

1568
01:21:43,000 --> 01:21:45,880
Speaker 1: use some kind of secret SAA mind control shit to

1569
01:21:45,960 --> 01:21:47,639
Speaker 1: digmatize her this quickly?

1570
01:21:47,680 --> 01:21:50,599
Speaker 4: Because how is this happening? How's any of this happening?

1571
01:21:51,280 --> 01:21:53,840
Speaker 3: Is he in MK twelve like it took Patty Hurst

1572
01:21:53,920 --> 01:22:00,000
Speaker 3: longer to get fucking Stockholm syndromed the actual Stockholm scene

1573
01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,120
Speaker 3: and drum case took longer where those people were in

1574
01:22:02,120 --> 01:22:05,240
Speaker 3: that fucking bank, like it took them a long time

1575
01:22:05,320 --> 01:22:07,200
Speaker 3: to be like, oh, we feel bad.

1576
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 2: For this guy.

1577
01:22:07,800 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 3: It took her minutes, and that to me is like

1578
01:22:10,680 --> 01:22:14,519
Speaker 3: that does not I will say that the screenplay writers

1579
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:19,840
Speaker 3: and the director possibly didn't consider their female character as

1580
01:22:19,840 --> 01:22:21,240
Speaker 3: a real fucking person.

1581
01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:25,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels real shoehorned into this story, I have

1582
01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: to say. And like I said, I don't need that.

1583
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 1: I don't need it too. I mean, like I said,

1584
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:32,120
Speaker 1: I've never read the book. I don't know if six

1585
01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 1: Days of the Condor had we had the three.

1586
01:22:34,240 --> 01:22:36,520
Speaker 4: Extra days, perhaps we would.

1587
01:22:36,240 --> 01:22:38,519
Speaker 2: Have gotten a little bit more to this.

1588
01:22:38,680 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 6: But like as the movie is presented, you know, like

1589
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:46,280
Speaker 6: I'm just like, yes, all of the rest of the

1590
01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:49,479
Speaker 6: stuff is very stressful, and you know it's confusing at times,

1591
01:22:49,520 --> 01:22:50,439
Speaker 6: but I'm with you.

1592
01:22:50,520 --> 01:22:51,880
Speaker 4: I'll try to figure this out.

1593
01:22:51,920 --> 01:22:54,800
Speaker 1: But like, I don't need the romance, like you don't

1594
01:22:54,840 --> 01:22:58,240
Speaker 1: have to have this happen. And I don't know, I

1595
01:22:58,240 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 1: will always feel that way and maybe if I watch

1596
01:23:01,120 --> 01:23:03,719
Speaker 1: it again I'll feel differently. But I'm just like, nah,

1597
01:23:04,040 --> 01:23:09,320
Speaker 1: miss me with this fucking weird, weird Kathy subplot, right,

1598
01:23:09,439 --> 01:23:12,440
Speaker 1: it's weird, but I have to say so we've established

1599
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: the cia is is completely filled with Christmas assholes. Let's

1600
01:23:16,520 --> 01:23:18,760
Speaker 1: just say it, like everyone, even the good guys, the

1601
01:23:18,840 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 1: bad guys, Like everyone is a Christmas asshole in the CIA.

1602
01:23:22,760 --> 01:23:25,559
Speaker 1: Hate to say it, and I will say this despite

1603
01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:28,000
Speaker 1: what I feel about some of the plot stuff of

1604
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,799
Speaker 1: Three Days of the Condor, Like this movie is great

1605
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:33,400
Speaker 1: to see, like A seventy is New York as you

1606
01:23:33,479 --> 01:23:36,880
Speaker 1: and I both love, and again fun to see all

1607
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:37,920
Speaker 1: this giant tech.

1608
01:23:38,120 --> 01:23:41,080
Speaker 2: Like it's like these giant.

1609
01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:44,599
Speaker 1: Computers like fucking real, like Stanley Kubrick shit, Like there

1610
01:23:44,600 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: are people in the in the movie that are like

1611
01:23:46,520 --> 01:23:49,439
Speaker 1: talking to desktop computers, like the robots, and I'm.

1612
01:23:49,320 --> 01:23:52,320
Speaker 3: Like, what in the world, Like just just the concept

1613
01:23:52,320 --> 01:23:55,080
Speaker 3: of booking time on the computer, like can I get

1614
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:56,080
Speaker 3: on the computer today?

1615
01:23:56,280 --> 01:23:59,200
Speaker 2: Either're like it's free at two thirty and You're like what.

1616
01:24:00,360 --> 01:24:03,160
Speaker 1: And it's just like it's just like, oh, Cliff Robinson's

1617
01:24:03,200 --> 01:24:07,160
Speaker 1: telling this like young guy on his ginormous like Apple computer,

1618
01:24:07,240 --> 01:24:10,200
Speaker 1: and we like enhance and hands and hands and then

1619
01:24:10,200 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: you're just like b B boom enhancing. That's so dumb.

1620
01:24:15,680 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 1: I mean, but it's fun to wash, you know, for

1621
01:24:17,680 --> 01:24:20,760
Speaker 1: like all that shit. But it also I gotta be

1622
01:24:20,800 --> 01:24:24,640
Speaker 1: honest with you, like that apartment. Fate Downaway's apartment is

1623
01:24:24,680 --> 01:24:27,760
Speaker 1: so awesome. If we ever do great seventies apartments again,

1624
01:24:28,400 --> 01:24:31,800
Speaker 1: we gotta pick this one. She's got some great furniture,

1625
01:24:32,000 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 1: a lot of great books, and then she's got her bleak,

1626
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:39,280
Speaker 1: bleak ass photography, which Condor sort of likes. And I

1627
01:24:39,280 --> 01:24:41,240
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean, this was my choice this year.

1628
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,360
Speaker 1: I feel like three Days in the Condor is that

1629
01:24:44,439 --> 01:24:47,200
Speaker 1: thing where now it's kind of like the New Diehard.

1630
01:24:47,479 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: It's like where people are like, we're gonna shoehorn this

1631
01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: into the Christmas cannon because we see one Christmas tree,

1632
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:56,559
Speaker 1: which I think is very funny.

1633
01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,880
Speaker 2: But you know, right, that is very funny. Yeah, I'm in.

1634
01:25:00,360 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: But as a.

1635
01:25:01,600 --> 01:25:07,920
Speaker 1: Movie, like I said, like rip up my Centofile card

1636
01:25:08,360 --> 01:25:11,080
Speaker 1: if you have to. But like this movie was always

1637
01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:14,439
Speaker 1: like presented to me anyway as this like very important

1638
01:25:14,479 --> 01:25:18,600
Speaker 1: seventies movie, very and it is tense, it is stressful.

1639
01:25:19,360 --> 01:25:21,640
Speaker 4: Is it a masterpiece?

1640
01:25:22,720 --> 01:25:25,120
Speaker 2: No?

1641
01:25:25,120 --> 01:25:28,479
Speaker 3: No, you can create and rip up my Centophile card

1642
01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,600
Speaker 3: because no, it's not a masterpiece. It's an interesting seventies

1643
01:25:31,640 --> 01:25:34,679
Speaker 3: movie that does not realistically consider women.

1644
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:37,200
Speaker 2: And therefore I'm fucking.

1645
01:25:36,880 --> 01:25:41,840
Speaker 3: Out, Like you can't have a masterpiece that leaves out

1646
01:25:41,920 --> 01:25:43,759
Speaker 3: the humanity of an entire character.

1647
01:25:44,200 --> 01:25:49,759
Speaker 4: Agreed, Agreed, And that is all I have for this week.

1648
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 2: Like it's a banger.

1649
01:25:52,680 --> 01:25:56,479
Speaker 1: We have floated a lot of controversial opinions this week.

1650
01:25:57,880 --> 01:26:00,000
Speaker 3: We want to give you something to think about because

1651
01:26:00,080 --> 01:26:03,040
Speaker 3: we're off for the next two weeks, so we wanted

1652
01:26:03,040 --> 01:26:06,879
Speaker 3: to give you some time to be able to really

1653
01:26:07,200 --> 01:26:13,040
Speaker 3: disagree with us, and you know, to spend your holidays.

1654
01:26:13,320 --> 01:26:18,679
Speaker 3: You spend the end of the year considering our astute

1655
01:26:18,720 --> 01:26:21,560
Speaker 3: opinions about these Christmas classics.

1656
01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: Go to your families, go to your most uncle frank

1657
01:26:24,640 --> 01:26:26,880
Speaker 1: ass relative and be like, I heard this lady on

1658
01:26:26,920 --> 01:26:28,960
Speaker 1: a podcast say the Three Days of the Condor was

1659
01:26:29,000 --> 01:26:33,759
Speaker 1: a bad movie, and see what happens. Film the reaction

1660
01:26:33,880 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 1: and then email it to us.

1661
01:26:35,920 --> 01:26:39,360
Speaker 3: That is the true crossover theme. Find your Uncle Frank

1662
01:26:39,400 --> 01:26:41,759
Speaker 3: and your family and discuss Three Days of the Condor

1663
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:42,960
Speaker 3: being a bad movie.

1664
01:26:44,920 --> 01:26:47,120
Speaker 2: And that's that's the theme. That's the theme.

1665
01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, and then he'll be like looking at the camera

1666
01:26:50,640 --> 01:26:51,840
Speaker 1: at us, being like, look what.

1667
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:55,759
Speaker 3: You did, you little jerks. He'll call you a fucking

1668
01:26:55,880 --> 01:27:02,200
Speaker 3: jerk over your holiday ham That's right.

1669
01:27:02,280 --> 01:27:04,280
Speaker 1: Well, listen, we want you all to have a really

1670
01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,320
Speaker 1: good holiday, regardless if you do that or not. Like

1671
01:27:07,400 --> 01:27:09,160
Speaker 1: Daniel said, we were off for the next two weeks.

1672
01:27:09,439 --> 01:27:11,840
Speaker 1: We do actually have a bonus episode coming out on

1673
01:27:11,880 --> 01:27:15,080
Speaker 1: Thursday the twenty second, so if you are a Wondering

1674
01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:20,080
Speaker 1: Plus subscriber, you will listen to that and then I

1675
01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:23,840
Speaker 1: think our next regular feed episode is not going to

1676
01:27:23,840 --> 01:27:26,679
Speaker 1: be released until January tenth of twenty twenty three.

1677
01:27:28,120 --> 01:27:29,439
Speaker 2: Happy New Year? Do yeah?

1678
01:27:29,479 --> 01:27:30,920
Speaker 4: Do you want to tell them?

1679
01:27:30,920 --> 01:27:34,360
Speaker 2: The movies? Yeah, you can watch these over the next

1680
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:35,000
Speaker 2: couple of weeks.

1681
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,760
Speaker 3: Take your time with them if you want, because our

1682
01:27:38,840 --> 01:27:42,120
Speaker 3: the first episode of the New Year, we will be

1683
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:46,120
Speaker 3: discussing Crazy Stupid Love, which was released in twenty eleven,

1684
01:27:46,720 --> 01:27:49,719
Speaker 3: and Can't Buy Me Love, which was released in nineteen

1685
01:27:50,080 --> 01:27:51,400
Speaker 3: eighty seven.

1686
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:53,519
Speaker 2: Have you ever seen Crazy Stupid Love?

1687
01:27:53,680 --> 01:27:59,679
Speaker 1: I have not, so ah oh that laugh, that evil laugh.

1688
01:28:02,160 --> 01:28:02,600
Speaker 3: I do.

1689
01:28:03,240 --> 01:28:06,240
Speaker 2: Oh. I can't wait to watch and then discuss these movies.

1690
01:28:06,240 --> 01:28:06,880
Speaker 2: So come on back.

1691
01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:11,479
Speaker 3: January tenth will be when that episode is released, and

1692
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,160
Speaker 3: you know, just Happy New Year.

1693
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:14,360
Speaker 2: That's right.

1694
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:19,240
Speaker 1: If you are ititchin to chat, we are at I

1695
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:21,280
Speaker 1: Saw what you did pod at gmail dot com.

1696
01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:24,320
Speaker 3: Take some time to think of questions to send us

1697
01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:27,000
Speaker 3: because next year we're gonna have some great guests lined

1698
01:28:27,080 --> 01:28:31,559
Speaker 3: up and we personally just love answering your emails. We

1699
01:28:31,600 --> 01:28:33,360
Speaker 3: also have a PO box if you want to send

1700
01:28:33,400 --> 01:28:36,120
Speaker 3: us handwritten letters. You can find it on the link

1701
01:28:36,160 --> 01:28:41,840
Speaker 3: tree of our Instagram and our social media accounts are

1702
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:46,040
Speaker 3: at I sawpod on Instagram and Twitter if it still

1703
01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:48,519
Speaker 3: exists at the time of this recording. Twitter still exists.

1704
01:28:48,720 --> 01:28:52,760
Speaker 1: Ah God, that's so depressing. We have to make that

1705
01:28:53,240 --> 01:28:57,760
Speaker 1: little note. But listen, hey, you've seen this on our socials.

1706
01:28:58,000 --> 01:29:02,160
Speaker 1: We have merch we have a new hoodie which is

1707
01:29:02,560 --> 01:29:07,639
Speaker 1: super exciting. We have Bargello kits, we have enabled pins

1708
01:29:07,640 --> 01:29:09,920
Speaker 1: like whatever you need, go to the I Saw what

1709
01:29:09,960 --> 01:29:12,840
Speaker 1: you did section of the exactly right shop to find

1710
01:29:12,840 --> 01:29:15,400
Speaker 1: it if you need. I think you're past the window

1711
01:29:15,600 --> 01:29:18,360
Speaker 1: of shipping for the holidays, but you know what, like

1712
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,720
Speaker 1: it'll be there for you after the.

1713
01:29:20,640 --> 01:29:22,760
Speaker 2: Holidays if you want so.

1714
01:29:23,240 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 3: Use the money you get for New Year's or holiday

1715
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,440
Speaker 3: celebrations and get a new hoodie.

1716
01:29:28,680 --> 01:29:31,519
Speaker 1: Yes, get a new hoodie for those cold winter months

1717
01:29:31,520 --> 01:29:33,840
Speaker 1: because you know January is a bitch, so.

1718
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:35,960
Speaker 2: Well, listen.

1719
01:29:36,120 --> 01:29:38,719
Speaker 4: Danielle as always a fucking pleasure doing this podcast.

1720
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:39,120
Speaker 2: With you.

1721
01:29:39,360 --> 01:29:41,839
Speaker 4: I'm so happy to be doing this for a third.

1722
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:44,120
Speaker 2: Year, so we are in it.

1723
01:29:44,400 --> 01:29:48,720
Speaker 3: We are happy to do it, and thank you so

1724
01:29:48,800 --> 01:29:50,799
Speaker 3: much for joining us on this journey.

1725
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:54,680
Speaker 2: We'll see in the new year. But I love doing this.

1726
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:57,920
Speaker 3: I can't believe we get to just talk shit about

1727
01:29:58,240 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 3: the McAllister family and three days with the com for fun.

1728
01:30:02,320 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 2: It's great.

1729
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:03,760
Speaker 4: Oh, it's so fun.

1730
01:30:03,800 --> 01:30:06,400
Speaker 1: And also thank you to our producer, Casey O'Brien, who

1731
01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,400
Speaker 1: is the best and we love him so much.

1732
01:30:08,479 --> 01:30:10,080
Speaker 4: So happy holidays, Casey.

1733
01:30:10,840 --> 01:30:14,760
Speaker 2: Casey's keeping us going strong. Always see you next year.

1734
01:30:14,880 --> 01:30:21,080
Speaker 1: Everybody book.

1735
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,519
Speaker 3: This has been an exactly right production, produced by Casey O'Brien,

1736
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 3: mixed by Edson Choi. Our theme song is by Tom

1737
01:30:29,320 --> 01:30:33,080
Speaker 3: bry Fogel, artwork by Garrett Ross. Our executive producers are

1738
01:30:33,120 --> 01:30:36,000
Speaker 3: Georgia Hart, Start Caring, Til Gareff and Daniel Kramer. You

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Speaker 3: can follow us on Instagram and Twitter at I Saw pod,

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Speaker 3: Did Pod at gmail