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Speaker 1: along here on the drive, and I messed up the

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Speaker 1: hour number two intro. Hold on, let me do that again,

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Speaker 1: Matt Will All right right, I'm just so excited to

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Speaker 1: get into this wide receiver conversation. I forgot our standard

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Speaker 1: operating procedure here, good evening, Stealer Nation, how we doing well?

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Speaker 1: That's good us too, That's good our number two here

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Speaker 1: of the drive, Matt, how do you want to to

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Speaker 1: kick this thing off?

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Speaker 2: Here?

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Speaker 1: Are you know? We we said yesterday that we would

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Speaker 1: discuss candidates via trade in the wide receiver market. I

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Speaker 1: have a list of about a ten or a dozen here.

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Speaker 1: Do you want me to read through these names? Do

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Speaker 1: you want to throw some names at me?

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Speaker 2: We don't need that list.

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Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.

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Speaker 2: We're just gonna go through every team and talk about

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Speaker 2: are there options? And this is how my mind works.

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Speaker 2: I lay there in bed and I figure things out.

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Speaker 2: So I always start in the AFCs Buffalo bills. You

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Speaker 2: would immediately think no Keon Colean, But I was gonna say,

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Speaker 2: let's not forget the Steelers hired the wide receiver coach

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Speaker 2: of the Buffalo Bills. Great call, and they don't seem

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Speaker 2: to be particularly thrilled with Keon Coleman. Now, this is

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Speaker 2: not an AJ Brown level trade where you've got no

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Speaker 2: more problems and you know you're loaded. But if we're

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Speaker 2: going to throw a late pick for somebody the receivers

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Speaker 2: coach worked with and maybe liked, then I always thought

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Speaker 2: he was more of a slot than an outside guy.

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Speaker 2: Maybe you want to use him a little bit differently.

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Speaker 2: These don't have to be first round forty million dollar players,

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Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Sure, so I think he's noteworthy.

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Speaker 1: I think so too, especially the way they've kind of

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Speaker 1: thrown him under the bus in the offseason. Might be

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Speaker 2: So I just wanted to throw names out. I like, yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean these are that, and I'm sure our listeners

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Speaker 2: all right, So if we stay in that division, Patriots,

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Speaker 2: I think there's nobody for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: Jets, they're no less Scarett Wilson.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think he's on the market.

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Speaker 1: Be their best player on their roster right now, right.

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Speaker 2: I mean maybe it would get to like trade deadline

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Speaker 2: time again when they dumped Quinnin Williams and Gardener that

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Speaker 2: He didn't really work and play well with Rogers too.

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Speaker 2: Weird reason to.

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Speaker 1: Detailed button up approach the Dolphins, Jaylen Waddle and Tyreek.

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Speaker 2: I mean he's on the roster, he's injured. I don't

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Speaker 2: think he'll be a Dolphin. I don't think he'll get traded.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll get cut. He's coming off a massive injury.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's for the Steelers. But it's a

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Speaker 2: veteran name that's on a roster right now that I

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Speaker 2: think will move that people know.

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Speaker 1: You think he'll get cut or you think he'll be moved.

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Speaker 2: I think he'll get cut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he's contract his contract and he's thirty two.

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Speaker 2: Right Wadle, I don't know if they'd move or not

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Speaker 2: worth talking about because there was a lot of rumors

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Speaker 2: even within the vision that the Bills and Dolphins had

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Speaker 2: third for Wattle trade worked out of the deadline that

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Speaker 2: fell through or whatever. Interesting interesting, and they should be

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Speaker 1: They should be and he's only twenty seven. And part

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Speaker 1: of this conversation for me, Matt two is pairing with

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Speaker 1: DK metcalf right, and I think he would be a

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Speaker 1: That that's I think the kind of type of combination

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Speaker 1: I would if I'm gonna give up some draft capital

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Speaker 2: The problem and he's still he's young. As you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: the problem is he's gonna costume Oh yeah, yeah, you're

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Speaker 1: I don't think anyone's gonna trade anybody aside from the Bengals.

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Speaker 2: Told Bateman be on the move. He's been kind of,

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Speaker 1: The Steelers, yep AFC South Cults are interesting, Yes they are.

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Speaker 2: There's a chance they could bring back Piers, but even

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Speaker 2: after Peers. But they did trade to Donnie Mitchell. With

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Speaker 2: the trade deadlines, they're one fewer receiver than originally thought.

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Speaker 2: But I don't think that's crazy to be interested in Pittman,

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Speaker 2: Brian Thomas Junior I think could get moved.

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Speaker 1: He's the one that comes along with AJ Brown. He's

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Speaker 2: Yes, I mean just because they didn't use them properly.

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Speaker 2: give money to Myers. They got a ton invested in Hunter.

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Speaker 2: I don't know that he really fits this system. They

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Speaker 1: Maybe I should have set the stage asking you this first,

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Speaker 1: what would you be willing to part with in terms

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Speaker 1: we're talking AJ Brown or but yeah, his first round

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Speaker 2: Maybe let's just go through the names because if somebody,

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Speaker 1: I was gonna say they have some you'd be interested in,

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Speaker 2: To I don't think Nico you could get and they

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Speaker 2: do you want seventy million and two receivers? Probably not,

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Speaker 2: but I could paint the picture Titans. I think Ridley's

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Speaker 2: he may be hitting free agency. We talked about him already,

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Speaker 1: He he has one more year left on his deal.

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Speaker 2: Okay, he's a potential cap casually, That's why we talked

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Speaker 2: about him. But I'm not giving you anything for him.

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Speaker 1: No, I'd be interested if he was a free agent. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'd rather take a crack on free agency.

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Speaker 2: I don't think the Chargers of anybody, they would move Chief,

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Speaker 1: Raiders already did with Jacobe Myers, right, Bronco's Bronco is

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Speaker 2: I think they're looking to add You go.

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Speaker 1: To the NFC that covers the AFC.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that covers the FC.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with the NFC East and a big name,

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Speaker 1: A J.

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Speaker 2: Brown. A J.

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Speaker 1: Brown.

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Speaker 2: He worries me because I thought he declined a little

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Speaker 2: He's had several lower body injuries. You might be buying

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Speaker 2: a declining asset. And he's got a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Oh doing, Yes, he does, he sure does.

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Speaker 2: Like I'm not giving a first three.

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Speaker 1: He has one, two, three, four more years left on

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Speaker 2: And they're massive cap pits.

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Speaker 1: They're all like twenty five thirty million dollar cap hits.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, and can see. I think the Steelers are

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's some teams that that could never pull

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Speaker 2: this is a really deep wide receiver draft, and I'm

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Speaker 2: definitely dipping my toe in that water in some regard.

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Speaker 2: You know, maybe not in the first round, especially if

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Speaker 2: you trade for a J. Brown, You're rocking your first

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Speaker 2: I would go. I would lean away from Brown.

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Speaker 1: Same. He's another one that if we're having this conversation

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so him in Metcalf for teammates all this, But

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Speaker 2: I also would rather stagger their ages.

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Speaker 1: I'd rather stagger ages and skill sets, body types.

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Speaker 2: Right, right, right, let's see here Washington, I think so no, No,

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Speaker 2: I mean mclaurin's not going anywhere sizeable contract to right,

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Speaker 2: and they need them Giants. No, giants are a no.

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Speaker 2: And I mean you can get really far down the weeds.

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Speaker 2: Maybe Slaton, but he doesn't move the needle all that much.

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Speaker 2: And but they and they, they paid him this pass offseason.

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Speaker 2: Dallas isn't moving anybody, and if it is, it's tagging

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Speaker 1: On're not in that market anymore, uh NFC North, the

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Speaker 2: Gonna get traded or gonna get moved. They want burden

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Speaker 2: on the field, they want a dunes in the field.

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Speaker 2: They want the ball going to Loveland. He's got a contract,

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Speaker 2: they inherited him. He's not a great player anymore though either.

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Speaker 2: I mean, he's good. Everybody would love to have him.

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Speaker 2: But it's kind of like aj Brown too, like what

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Speaker 2: are you buying it a career? Which makes me think too,

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Speaker 2: like these guys are making money and are getting in

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Speaker 2: that neighborhood of age. You might have to give up

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Speaker 2: less draft capital than you think.

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Speaker 1: That's a good point.

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Speaker 2: You might just get him for a third, you know,

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Speaker 2: I mean, and then you're then you listen or have

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Speaker 2: So there's these aren't just easy swaps. But I'd be interested,

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Speaker 2: but I'm not doing jumping jacks for it.

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Speaker 1: Same if the price was right, I would like it.

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Speaker 2: He's not very physical, he gets pushed around. He makes

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Speaker 1: He's a two. If you parent with Jordan Jefferson, justin Jefferson.

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Speaker 2: They'd like Tesla, but not enough to move one of

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Speaker 1: The law saw that guy. That guy's got a funny name.

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Speaker 2: South Godwin, I think you can get Yeah, I was

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Speaker 2: he thought, you, the Steelers might even get a fifth

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Speaker 1: And for the Bucks, Patrick Queen was listed as one

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Speaker 2: Right if you're not gonna give Queen money after the year.

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Speaker 2: you can get Godwin with without Queen. That one would

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Speaker 1: Falcons snowing.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't be interested in.

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Speaker 1: Anyone else yet.

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Speaker 1: Getting Ted McMillan, and I wouldn't really want anybody else.

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Speaker 2: Or they're going to cut him and you'll compete with

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Speaker 1: I don't think so.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Seattle's a no. They're gonna be looking.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna be looking.

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Speaker 2: And what if I go one more Marvin Harrison June.

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Speaker 1: That was so? What if the Cardinals called you up

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Speaker 2: No, but slightly less than that two and five. Okay,

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Speaker 1: No, he hasn't. He's he's been a disappointment.

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Speaker 2: He's been a disappointment. Now, I've often referenced reception, perception,

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Speaker 1: Do you think he'd be a nice one of those

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Speaker 2: Yeah, even though they both look But I would use

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Speaker 2: we all overrated him a little coming.

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Speaker 1: Out of as part of that Ohio State and fruit Tree.

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Speaker 2: But just watching him move at the NFL level, it's

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Speaker 2: think you could get Harrison for a two.

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Speaker 1: If you could do that, I'll say that I'll drive

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Speaker 1: Let's put this show, put the rest of it on replay.

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Speaker 1: We gotta we gotta a train to catch here to

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Speaker 2: I mean, they're totally rebuilding and Michael Wilson came on

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Speaker 1: Maybe that's one that I would definitely, yeah, pick up

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Speaker 1: That was fun. There's our wide receiver trade candidate's conversation,

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Speaker 1: and that's something we'll be keeping an eye on here

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Speaker 2: And these teams that are trading receivers know that it's

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Speaker 2: a really as it always is, receiver rich draft. You're

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Speaker 2: I just hold my pick and draft receiver one. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Right, so maybe it's a good time to.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you can pluck one, to pluck one. I

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