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Speaker 1: we now have what is it? Eight team set? We

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Speaker 1: I guess with Dak, who was you know, probably played

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Speaker 1: They eliminate the mistakes, they give him some easy lay

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Speaker 1: up throws, take some risk out of it with Daniel.

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Speaker 1: Now Daniels not Josh Allen athletically, but what they did was,

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Speaker 1: I mean, Daniel led the NFL like in quarterback fumbles.

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Speaker 1: The first couple of years, he was a mess. No,

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Speaker 1: he was. He turning the ball over, not stopduced that,

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Speaker 1: and then a little more accurate. And then after Thanksgiving

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Speaker 1: a few weeks after it, then they kind of let

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Speaker 1: him loose. Okay, we're gonna go from They let him loose,

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Speaker 1: and they did it against the Vikings the first game. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: Dabel looks at the film and says, this defense I

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Speaker 1: can let him loose, and they did it again. So

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Speaker 1: this is what worries me about Daniel. He's really his

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Speaker 1: two best games of the year arguably were against the Vikings.

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Speaker 1: He had a good game against the Lions. But Carolina

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Speaker 1: ate him up, Dallas ate him up twice, Philadelphia him

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Speaker 1: up once, him up once. I think Daniels limited. I

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Speaker 1: think we're going crazy right now. I think what you

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Speaker 1: do if you're the Giants, um, they got to get

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Speaker 1: a tight end, a receiver, probably a corner. I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: be I don't think it's crazy. This sounds nuts. Fifth

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Speaker 1: sixth round draft another quarterback, just I think, or your

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Speaker 1: franchise tag him John that's more than you want to

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Speaker 1: pay them. But they don't have a ton of huge contracts,

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Speaker 1: right so say Kwan Dexter Lawrence. But they don't have

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Speaker 1: a lot of big contracts. They're gonna rebuild this offensive lot.

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Speaker 1: Both their tackles now, Evan Neil and Thomas are you know, cheap.

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Speaker 1: They're gonna They're gonna draft receivers and tight ends. So

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Speaker 1: this offense outside of Barkley is not very expensive. And

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Speaker 1: he but he's a free agent, and it's hard. What

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Speaker 1: do you do with running backs. You don't like giving

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Speaker 1: him long term contracts, but damn, I think you have

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Speaker 1: to keep him because of Daniel's little I think you

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Speaker 1: have to. Okay, I got hit on one more thing.

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Speaker 1: You might have talked about it in a showed that

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Speaker 1: I didn't see the Lamar Jackson situation, which has clearly

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Speaker 1: gotten weird. And my thoughts pretty simple. Money is all relative.

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Speaker 1: So whether you make fifty grand you think you're worth eighty,

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Speaker 1: whether you make a million dollars and you think you're

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Speaker 1: were two, or whether you make twenty five million you

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Speaker 1: think you're worth two. Things get weird when their animosity

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Speaker 1: with money comes up, and in sports when injuries factor in.

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Speaker 1: Things got weird in Baltimore. And it does feel like

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Speaker 1: enough reporting from people that are in the know that

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Speaker 1: they might have crossed, Like I wouldn't be stunned if

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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson is on another team. And usually you know,

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Speaker 1: you just write out quarterbacks who are successful. But I

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Speaker 1: had some people like, is it crazy? Maybe the Bears

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Speaker 1: are open they get you know, justin fields they move

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Speaker 1: on from them. The Bears kind of restart. What about

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Speaker 1: Seattle they have a power run game. I think you

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Speaker 1: have to. I think you have to. And and we

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Speaker 1: know John will take some big swings with Pete. I

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Speaker 1: mean yeah, I kind of expect him to be on

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Speaker 1: another team. To be honest with you, at this point,

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Speaker 1: there's a little Kauai and Leonard here, non verbal, too

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Speaker 1: much mystery family involved, no agent, you know, Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: just um you know, both Kauai and Lamar thought they

482
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Speaker 1: were sort of overlooked into college, overlooked out of college,

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Speaker 1: a little chip on their shoulder. Um yeah, I I

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Speaker 1: I don't know if it was his call. I didn't

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Speaker 1: like him not being in Cincinnati, but you know that

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Speaker 1: what's really interesting, John, when you look at Baltimore playing

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Speaker 1: Huntley in Cincinnati almost pulled that thing off, that culture

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Speaker 1: and that that kind of power football. You could go,

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Speaker 1: that's the kind where you could bring in a rookie

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Speaker 1: quarterback if he had two or three years starting. I mean,

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Speaker 1: Kenny pick it. At the end of the year, Pittsburgh

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Speaker 1: felt like a playoff team. I think culture in Baltimore. Um,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I really like what Lamar brings to the table,

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Speaker 1: but I could see them starting over and just saying listen,

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Speaker 1: we it's not working. By by the way, would they

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Speaker 1: What if they went and got Anthony Richardson from Florida,

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Speaker 1: you know, and and they just said, listen, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: do what we did with Lamar. We're just gonna get

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Speaker 1: tight ends, running backs, linemen and defense around him. I

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Speaker 1: could see him doing it Baltimore. So their culture is

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Speaker 1: so formidable, you're not gonna score much on that defense

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Speaker 1: over the next two years. I mean, they took to

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Speaker 1: average pack twelve quarterbacks and Huntley and Brown and competed

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Speaker 1: in games. That's insane. You know, those those guys couldn't

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Speaker 1: play in the Pac twelve. It's crazy, You're right, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: so you see what they do with talent like Lamar. Sure, well, Colin,

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Speaker 1: what you get on with your night? Fun talking to you?

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Speaker 1: And uh should be a fun week. Alright, Buddy good seen. Okay,

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Speaker 1: let's dive into the middle cough mail bag. But before

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Speaker 1: we do, I just want to hit on a couple

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Speaker 1: of quick things. I probably mentioned it yesterday on Sunday

512
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Speaker 1: Night's pod, but there was a lot going on. Maybe

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Speaker 1: I missed it. I definitely talked about it on Twitter

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Speaker 1: with some people. The final play for the Minnesota Vikings.

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Speaker 1: I've seen it now several times. My issue always with

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Speaker 1: a situation on fourth down, not in the middle of

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Speaker 1: a game, but at the end of a game, especially

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs, when you run arount or a play

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Speaker 1: even if the quote unquote hot route or the underneath

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Speaker 1: is there for a reason, right to clear out a

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Speaker 1: defender or whatever, that if the quarterback eventually goes there,

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Speaker 1: it's a disaster. And obviously Cousins did so I put

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Speaker 1: some blame on the coach for calling a play that

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Speaker 1: calls for a guy well be uh you know before

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Speaker 1: the sticks that he would especially if he's covered, would

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Speaker 1: have to make him miraculous broken tackle, stiff arm. I

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Speaker 1: don't even know to get the first down. Now when

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Speaker 1: I've rewatched the play. Here's another issue I have, and

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Speaker 1: this is the ultimate knock on Kirk Cousins, who has

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Speaker 1: turned in to a really good player. Is Kirk Cousins

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Speaker 1: ever gonna be any of the top five six guys? No,

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Speaker 1: but as he's solid somewhere between ten to twelve, and

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Speaker 1: you can win double digit games and make the playoffs

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Speaker 1: with him every year. Yes, And there's something to be

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Speaker 1: said about that Minnesota Vikings are gonna print cash. They're

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Speaker 1: never gonna win the Super Bowl with the guy. But

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Speaker 1: they're always gonna be competitive and they should be in

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Speaker 1: the playoffs for the foreseeable future with him playing quarterback.

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Speaker 1: But when you watch the play now, he's about to

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Speaker 1: get hit. But I don't know if he truly feels

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Speaker 1: the pressure. The knock on him in league circles has

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Speaker 1: always been he's very robotic, right, Like, why is brock

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Speaker 1: Purty having some success because he can make plays? Right? Obviously,

544
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Speaker 1: the top guys Burrow, Alan Mahomes, you know, Lamar went Healthy,

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Speaker 1: those guys, Herbert, those guys can make plays with their legs,

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00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,640
Speaker 1: Rogers forever. They're very athletic and they can add lib

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Speaker 1: on the fly. Because every play call, whether it's fourth

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Speaker 1: down with the season on the line or just some

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Speaker 1: random play call in the middle of a game in

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Speaker 1: the middle of the season, it is not always gonna

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Speaker 1: work right. Sometimes you're gonna get wrong looks, sometimes the

552
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:30,320
Speaker 1: defense is going to disguise stuff. It's just football players

553
00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,560
Speaker 1: don't always work and I need the quarterback to uh

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Speaker 1: to make some place. And when you watch that, Cousins

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00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: goes in to what he's always been, a robot And

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00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 1: when you watch his eyes on that play. It's one

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Speaker 1: to boom, and that works the majority of his career,

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Speaker 1: because the majority of his football career is not fourth

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Speaker 1: and eight in the playoffs, one to not there, getting

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Speaker 1: getting at rid of the football. He's just very robotic,

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Speaker 1: and that play, to me, symbolizes a lot of when

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Speaker 1: I say the bad with Cousins, I would say the limitations.

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00:32:07,240 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: It's hard for him to add lib on the fly.

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Speaker 1: This is not his deal. And as long as you

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Speaker 1: know that, it's why I put a lot like you're

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Speaker 1: dealing with somewhat of a robot. So when you call

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Speaker 1: a play with that being the option, like he might

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Speaker 1: go there, you know somewhat is on the coach to

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Speaker 1: just not call the play. Now, if Cousins audible into

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Speaker 1: the play or whatever, then obviously I don't know the

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Speaker 1: details of it, but I cannot call a play without

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Speaker 1: guys at least close to the sticks on fourth to date,

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Speaker 1: if I'm running a guy two yards off the line

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Speaker 1: of scrimmage, I mean, that's it's a long way to go.

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Speaker 1: It just is. I saw that Pete Carroll said that

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Speaker 1: he talked to Gino Smith about a contract. Obviously they

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Speaker 1: finished on Saturday, so they've had the last couple of

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Speaker 1: days to talk and they want him there, and Gino

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Speaker 1: would be smart to stay if they do want them,

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Speaker 1: if they can figure out the financials and really want

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Speaker 1: to say, figure out the financials, Like, who's really throwing

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Speaker 1: a lot of bread at Gino? Probably not, uh to me?

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Speaker 1: If you could sign them to like a two year

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Speaker 1: fifty million dollar deal paying them twenty five a year

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Speaker 1: and guarantee like so basically guarantee one year of it,

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Speaker 1: Like who are you competing against for that contract? So

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Speaker 1: you're you're compensating a guy who just can throw thirty touchdowns,

588
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 1: high character guy, but you're also not like breaking the

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Speaker 1: bank for him. I don't know, giving the guy hundred

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Speaker 1: million dollars because go get a hundred million dollar contract

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Speaker 1: on the open market. I bet you can't. Because ultimately

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Speaker 1: Gino is the ideal Bridge quarterback. For a lot of years,

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Speaker 1: Bridge quarterbacks were like Mike Glennan, you know, Andy Dalton.

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Speaker 1: Like to me, if for whatever reason, Trey Lance is

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Speaker 1: not on the Niners next year, I would sign Andy

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Speaker 1: Dalton to be Brock Purty's backup. Got there's certain guys

597
00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 1: that become backup quarterbacks when they're done starting and then

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Speaker 1: they're kind of quote unquote bridge quarterbacks. Alex Smith was one.

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Speaker 1: I think Gino Smith. Now we'll see Alex had done

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Speaker 1: it longer. But if he plays just at a solid level,

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Speaker 1: that can you know, put you in the eight to

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Speaker 1: ten win range. That's an excellent bridge quarterback. And you

603
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Speaker 1: can still pull the trigger on drafting a guy, uh

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Speaker 1: if you feel, you know, you like one of them

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Speaker 1: high in the draft, because what are they picking fifth?

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Speaker 1: I I sometimes I gotta relook at drafts because it's

607
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Speaker 1: not the actual teams like, oh yeah, they traded with them,

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Speaker 1: they traded with Denver, they traded with the Rams, they

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Speaker 1: traded with the Browns. Because that's a lot of that.

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Speaker 1: That's the Eagles pick. That that happens a lot in

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Speaker 1: this draft. There are a lot of teams drafting like

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Speaker 1: the top twelve that actually are like in the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: we're pretty competitive. You're like, you know, the Lions went

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Speaker 1: nine and eight. They're also they gotta also pick in

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00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: the teams. You kind of gotta do some mental gymnastics,

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Speaker 1: but by about another month we'll just know. I mean

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00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:51,239
Speaker 1: I already do. But sometimes when you look at it,

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Speaker 1: you gotta kind of mix and match the teams. But

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Speaker 1: I think Gino Smith, assuming the Pete Carroll wants them,

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Speaker 1: which it sure sounds like he does, that they will

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Speaker 1: him do a number that will be far less than

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Speaker 1: what some of these people are talking about. Uh. Last,

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Speaker 1: before we dive into a couple of mailback questions, Harbaugh

624
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Speaker 1: officially announced that he's staying at Michigan, and I think

625
00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: part one of his quotes in his press release was like,

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Speaker 1: you know, there's not a happy happy or happy happier

627
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 1: or something like that, basically like when you're happy, like

628
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Speaker 1: you got it pretty good. And I think he's realized,

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Speaker 1: like I got a pretty good deal at Michigan. The

630
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: Big Ten isn't quite the SEC, but in terms of interest,

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Speaker 1: it's not far behind. Both those conferences are basically like

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Speaker 1: the NFL Light They do huge television ratings, You get

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Speaker 1: paid a lot of money. You know you gonna go

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Speaker 1: to the Denver Broncos. Because I think Mike Cliffs, who's

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00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: boys with Elway and boys all the Denver guys, said

636
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Speaker 1: that Harbach called, I want to say the owner, I

637
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: mean technically is the owner. He's the owner's son in law. Uh.

638
00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:54,279
Speaker 1: The dude that's that runs the Broncos to say he

639
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,240
Speaker 1: was out. I think they had talked a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Why would you want to Why would you want to

641
00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: mess with Russell? You know, why would you want to

642
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,479
Speaker 1: do that? It's just too risky that he's never gonna

643
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Speaker 1: be any good again. And like that, there's a decent

644
00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,719
Speaker 1: chance that he is, even if he gets some mojo back,

645
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 1: he's of what he once was. I got into an

646
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Speaker 1: argument with a guy on Instagram. I'm not afraid to

647
00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,840
Speaker 1: mix it up on the social media streets and the

648
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Speaker 1: d M s he was. He was very mad. He's like,

649
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Speaker 1: you talk a lot about investing, how about seeing the

650
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: big picture long term? Row I, how can you call

651
00:36:27,239 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos move a disaster because what we saw

652
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: this year, like typically a guy at thirty three years

653
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,520
Speaker 1: old doesn't just fall off a fucking cliff and then

654
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,200
Speaker 1: when he factor in, he doesn't move like he once

655
00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:44,440
Speaker 1: was and part of his deep ball accuracy, like d

656
00:36:44,520 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: K mccalf played a pretty big role in that for

657
00:36:46,440 --> 00:36:50,319
Speaker 1: three years. So that guy does not exist. You kind

658
00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: of gotta be a little bit more of a surgeon,

659
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: and that's never really been his deal. It's been ad

660
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,600
Speaker 1: living and he's one of the great ad libbers of

661
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 1: all time. And the other thing with Russell is he

662
00:37:03,600 --> 00:37:05,520
Speaker 1: pushed back when it's like, let's run the ball. Let's

663
00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:07,959
Speaker 1: run the ball thirty five times a year. So while

664
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,480
Speaker 1: the you know, a lot of the analytical nerds were

665
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: like let Russ cook. Also a big part of it

666
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:17,719
Speaker 1: was like people like Russ's, people like let me cook.

667
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 1: He was the guy pushing that narrative. So I think

668
00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,839
Speaker 1: Hardbob made the right decision to not take the Broncos

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00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:26,520
Speaker 1: job and just maybe see what's out there next year. Like,

670
00:37:26,640 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: I don't think he's never coming back to the NFL,

671
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 1: but he definitely has a pretty happy situation when it

672
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,600
Speaker 1: comes to the Michigan Wolverines. Okay, let's dive into a

673
00:37:37,600 --> 00:37:41,359
Speaker 1: couple of Middlecoff mail back questions firing those Middlecoff mailbacks

674
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:44,399
Speaker 1: at John Middlecoff, is the Instagram there wide open, more

675
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,719
Speaker 1: than welcome to firing. I need some questions. I went

676
00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,520
Speaker 1: through and I probably spent like an hour and a

677
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Speaker 1: half just answering some questions. Uh, no, big deal. I

678
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: had some time in my hands today Martin MLK day,

679
00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 1: so I I manually answered some of you guys, and

680
00:37:57,600 --> 00:37:59,239
Speaker 1: if some of people have asked me questions like a

681
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: month ago, it like cut me off after two weeks.

682
00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,800
Speaker 1: I couldn't keep going back. I don't know what uh

683
00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: woman man Zuckerberg is doing at the Meta headquarters, but

684
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: the apps was acting funny. I used to be able

685
00:38:10,000 --> 00:38:12,359
Speaker 1: to basically go back forever, I go back two months

686
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Speaker 1: and keep answering questions. It wouldn't let me do that. Uh,

687
00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:17,239
Speaker 1: now you can also blame me. I let it go

688
00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: for a while. I gotta try to like carve a

689
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: couple of hours a week just to answer questions for

690
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:24,360
Speaker 1: the ones I don't get, try to interact with the people.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Okay, question. As a Herbert fan,

692
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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if maybe he's not quite as good as

693
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,560
Speaker 1: we help. It's easy to blame coaching and injuries, but

694
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: if he needs a perfect situation to find success, then

695
00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:40,279
Speaker 1: we're looking someone akin to car or cousins. Do you

696
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: think Saturday's loss is mostly a result of coaching. I

697
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,399
Speaker 1: think there's two ways to look at it. There are

698
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: people that just want to shoot on him, to shoot

699
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 1: on him, and those people are idiots. And you can

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Speaker 1: also say objectively like he could be a little bit better,

701
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:57,280
Speaker 1: but he has a coach which I'm not even talking

702
00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:01,160
Speaker 1: the head coach, the offensive coordinator who is fire able.

703
00:39:01,840 --> 00:39:03,880
Speaker 1: And he has a head coach that you know by

704
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:05,759
Speaker 1: the time you listen to is maybe he's fired. If

705
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:10,200
Speaker 1: he's not fired, that's insane. Kind of a chaotic situation. Now,

706
00:39:10,360 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert is not Patrick Mahomes, Josh Allen or Joe Burrow.

707
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: So when we say he's really good, like there is

708
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,280
Speaker 1: a trio of young guys that are in their own

709
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:23,880
Speaker 1: little world, but he's proven that he's not far behind

710
00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 1: him and the stats for him kind of speak for themselves.

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00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: He's been excellent. So could they have used could he

712
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,480
Speaker 1: have hit the Keenan Allen on the one play? Yes,

713
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 1: of course. But this notion that like he thinks or

714
00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: he's underachieving, like there is not a team in the league.

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Speaker 1: They would laugh at you if you compared him to

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Speaker 1: Carr Cousins. They really would. So I would say he

717
00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 1: can improve, he could go to another level. Um, but

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,399
Speaker 1: part of going to another level, like look at Josh

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00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,719
Speaker 1: Allen had Brian Dable, look at Patrick Mahomes had Andy Reid.

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow might be a freak, and doesn't you know

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Speaker 1: he had a Who's Your on? And now he's got

722
00:40:03,719 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, so maybe it doesn't even matter for him.

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Speaker 1: But I would say most guys from Joe Montana to

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady needed some assistance from good coaching. But by

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Speaker 1: no means is is Herbert number one or even top

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Speaker 1: three or really four? But like, let's look at the group.

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Speaker 1: Would you take him over Cousins or Dak Prescott or

728
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,359
Speaker 1: Derek Carr? Of course you would, right, Would you take

729
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Speaker 1: him over Kyler and Lamar? You wouldn't even hesitate. So

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady sixty years old, Aaron Rodgers when he's on,

731
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Speaker 1: is better than him, clearly, but he is also thirty nine.

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00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: He talks about retirement like every other day. So really

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Speaker 1: the top three guys I listed and Trevor when he's on,

734
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,360
Speaker 1: but Trevor can also be off. But you know in

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Speaker 1: two years Trevor could easily be better than Justin Herbert,

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Speaker 1: and that that wouldn't be that crazy. Longtime listener and

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Speaker 1: enjoy your takes. Question for the pot this is brocks floor.

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Speaker 1: What are his ceiling possibilities? I mean with more reps

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00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: and another offseason working on arm strength and accuracy. Sky's

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00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,319
Speaker 1: the limit, right, I get a lot of questions like

741
00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:15,040
Speaker 1: what's your camp and just texting with buddies on brock Purty.

742
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Speaker 1: There really aren't that many brock Purties, right, because he's

743
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: kind of got the Drew Brees build. But he's pretty

744
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: damn athletic, right. His ten time in the forty was

745
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: the same as Christian McCaffrey's. And you saw him against

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00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:31,000
Speaker 1: Seattle like the you could scramble around. And here's the

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00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 1: other thing about his scrambling. I say this all the

748
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Speaker 1: time when it comes to quarterbacks, and it's not like

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00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:38,799
Speaker 1: I came up with this. I learned this when I

750
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 1: was around football in college in the pros. Instincts, instincts, instincts.

751
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:47,319
Speaker 1: You can't teach what you can through experience, and he

752
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 1: has a lot of experience. Four year starter in the

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Speaker 1: Big twelve, multiple time All Big Twelve first team and

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00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:55,319
Speaker 1: one time second team. So for three years he was

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00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,760
Speaker 1: one of the best two quarterbacks in the Big twelve,

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00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 1: an offensive conference. So he got a ton of reps. Right.

757
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,880
Speaker 1: His athletic ability, even Pete Carroll was like I was

758
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:07,680
Speaker 1: shocked how athletic he was in person. I thought he

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00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:11,560
Speaker 1: was Fran Tarkington. He can really move around behind the pocket.

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00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,640
Speaker 1: But he's not a runner, right, He's not Lamar Kyler.

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00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: That's not really his game. But he can scramble like

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Speaker 1: a younger Russell Wilson or Deshaun Watson behind the line

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00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:23,640
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, keep his head up and keep making throws.

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Speaker 1: That to me is I didn't realize, not that I'll

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00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,680
Speaker 1: be honest. I don't watch a lot of Iowa State football,

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Speaker 1: So any of you fans that watch a lot of

767
00:42:31,160 --> 00:42:33,400
Speaker 1: Big twelve, and I've seen him playing in college, I

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00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: don't know if he was this mobile in terms of

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00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,320
Speaker 1: they asked him to do this, but that has been

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00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:41,520
Speaker 1: a major, major reason for his success so far in

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00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,800
Speaker 1: the pros. And he's got sixteen touchdowns before picks. Obviously

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00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 1: he could have thrown a couple more interceptions, and he

773
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 1: easily could have thrown a couple more picks, so I

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00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: think it's kind of evened out. I mean, he's a

775
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,720
Speaker 1: four to one ratio right now, but his mobility has

776
00:42:53,760 --> 00:42:57,040
Speaker 1: been beyond eye opening. So when you talk about his ceilings,

777
00:42:57,120 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: like I don't see why he couldn't you know. I

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00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: mean took Kirk Cousins a long time to get going.

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00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:05,759
Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, you know, those guys are bigger, but like

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00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: Brock's every bit the playmaker. Now, the one thing Brock

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00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:14,040
Speaker 1: benefits from is a really good supporting cast, right, I

782
00:43:14,080 --> 00:43:17,719
Speaker 1: mean I used to study Debos, a star kills a star, McCaffrey,

783
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:22,800
Speaker 1: Mitchell studs, used Jackson stud his offensive coordinators study. He's got,

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00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:26,399
Speaker 1: you know, pretty good landing spot. It's also why we

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00:43:26,480 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: bet on Trey Lance. You're like ship, how do you

786
00:43:29,640 --> 00:43:32,200
Speaker 1: screw this up? And then we watched them, you know,

787
00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:34,440
Speaker 1: play four games like god, he really struggles to make

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00:43:34,440 --> 00:43:37,040
Speaker 1: plays happen. Brock Party gets in there immediately play started happening.

789
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: Either make plays or you don't. As Charles Woodson one

790
00:43:39,560 --> 00:43:41,239
Speaker 1: said when I was around the Raiders when he was there,

791
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,879
Speaker 1: work hard and make place, right. There's just a couple

792
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,560
Speaker 1: of things that is demanded in football. You come every

793
00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 1: day ready to grind, and then when the game starts,

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00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 1: makes it happen like no one really. You can give

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00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:53,279
Speaker 1: excuses all you want, like you either make plays or

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00:43:53,320 --> 00:43:56,280
Speaker 1: you don't. After a while, and Brock Party just makes place.

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00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,280
Speaker 1: You know. I'd be honest, I didn't see it coming.

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00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:01,359
Speaker 1: It's like I would have bet the house on this,

799
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: but it's happening. We're all seeing it. Just listen to

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00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:08,400
Speaker 1: Sunday's episode. I'm glad someone finally said it. Tony Dungee

801
00:44:08,440 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 1: is a wet towel of commentary. Even when he was

802
00:44:11,080 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 1: on set, he would make bland statements, providing minimal insight.

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00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:21,520
Speaker 1: Some people have pushed back to me that that al

804
00:44:21,560 --> 00:44:25,760
Speaker 1: Michaels was also terrible, and maybe I didn't notice because

805
00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,319
Speaker 1: I've really listened to some of the costs. They weren't great.

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00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:31,239
Speaker 1: I'll be honest, they were not great. He was I

807
00:44:31,280 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: wouldn't say comatos, but he definitely didn't have all the juice.

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00:44:35,719 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 1: I do think your partner in crime in a booth

809
00:44:38,600 --> 00:44:41,080
Speaker 1: when it comes to play by play guys, impacts your

810
00:44:41,160 --> 00:44:44,800
Speaker 1: energy now hours old and Jack's chargers. I was in

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00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: a lot of bigger games than that, but the game

812
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,479
Speaker 1: turned out to be really good and he wasn't great.

813
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: But I cannot get away from blaming the dudes at

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Speaker 1: NBC for putting on one of the most boring human beings.

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Speaker 1: If I wanted someone to talk to my team or

816
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,880
Speaker 1: give me a leadership advice or coach a team, or

817
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,880
Speaker 1: you know, talk about the Bible. Tone Dungee might be

818
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,160
Speaker 1: your man, but not everyone is meant to have a

819
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:13,160
Speaker 1: mic in front of their mouth, because having a mic

820
00:45:13,200 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 1: in front of your mouth, you gotta entertained, you gotta

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Speaker 1: have a little something to you and say what you

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00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:20,799
Speaker 1: want about Tony Romo. There's a lot of energy there.

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00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:24,439
Speaker 1: Greg Olsen feels very well prepared. Troy Aikman, damn good

824
00:45:24,440 --> 00:45:27,239
Speaker 1: at his job. Herb Street with College, damn good at

825
00:45:27,239 --> 00:45:30,080
Speaker 1: his job. John Smoltz, we can go around the horn

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Speaker 1: here and pick a lot of guys that are good

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Speaker 1: with a mic in front of them if you're a

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00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 1: golf guy. For every Johnny Miller was just he had

829
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Speaker 1: it because he wasn't afraid to say whatever that's which is.

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Speaker 1: This is an entertainment property in NBC. Whoever the you know,

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Speaker 1: coastal elite that put Tony Dungee on the broadcast, I'm

832
00:45:49,560 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: sure they'll be like, well, I did a historic rating

833
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:55,919
Speaker 1: on on Saturday Night. I could bend over and talk

834
00:45:56,000 --> 00:45:59,000
Speaker 1: like Ace fin Tura with my butt cheeks and the

835
00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:02,840
Speaker 1: rating would be wouldn't be impacted. It does not matter now.

836
00:46:03,120 --> 00:46:07,239
Speaker 1: Obviously having a better crew. You know, Burkhardt and and

837
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: Olsen are good, Buck and Aikman are good. But we're

838
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:14,080
Speaker 1: watching football regardless. Look at the ratings. There are a

839
00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,080
Speaker 1: lot of bad cruise all over the NFL, and we

840
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: consume it anyway. So to throw Tony Dungee, you have

841
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 1: an ability to hire anybody, any young up and comer,

842
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: any solid former player who's done it before. There are

843
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 1: a million options to put him there. I thought was insane.

844
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Speaker 1: I I thought it was malpractice. I thought it was

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Speaker 1: an embarrassment for us, the consumer who give our time.

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Speaker 1: And I say it all the time like I did.

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Speaker 1: I'm not being sarcastic here. Our time is the most

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Speaker 1: valuable thing we have and we give a lot of

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Speaker 1: it to the NFL, and in big games. Historically, they've

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Speaker 1: given us Madden, they've given us Al Michaels, They've given

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Speaker 1: us Joe Buck and Troy Aikman. I like collins Worth

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Speaker 1: Tariko that these are big time guys. Say what you

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Speaker 1: want about Gruden, he was entertaining there for a while.

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Speaker 1: You can't give me Tony Dungee with all the marbles

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Speaker 1: on the line on my Saturday night. Now, I do

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Speaker 1: this for a living. I got no choice. And some

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Speaker 1: of you, you're addicts, you ain't gonna miss it. But

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Speaker 1: for some people are like, that's kind of boring watching

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Speaker 1: this guy. Luckily the game, you know, made up for it,

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Speaker 1: but holy Connoli, that's just how does that happen? Okay,

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Speaker 1: audios firing those d M s at John Middlecoff and

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Speaker 1: um we will see you later in the week. Peace.

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Speaker 1: The volume