1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Hey, folks, it is Friday, July eighteenth. Colbert is out. 2 00:00:08,200 --> 00:00:11,840 Speaker 1: The Late Show has been canceled. This is a shocker 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: in the world of entertainment, But if you've been paying 4 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: attention to late night the past few years, this is 5 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:22,079 Speaker 1: not a shocker at all. Folks of that welcome to 6 00:00:22,120 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: this edition of Amy and TJ. Rooves. I guess first 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: things first, it is I don't care what you say. 8 00:00:26,920 --> 00:00:29,600 Speaker 1: You wake up to the news that the Late Show, 9 00:00:29,720 --> 00:00:32,800 Speaker 1: not to just he's out, but the show is going away. 10 00:00:33,240 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: That's just a shock. 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,840 Speaker 2: It's a shock because this is also the number one, 12 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,640 Speaker 2: the highest rated late night show of them all. Now, 13 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:44,839 Speaker 2: Jimmy Kimmel might be slightly up in the demo, but 14 00:00:44,880 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 2: in terms of overall viewers, Stephen Colbert, The Late Show 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 2: with Stephen Colbert is the number one and has been 16 00:00:50,600 --> 00:00:53,280 Speaker 2: the number one late night show for quite some time. 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: Yeah. He, I guess he found his footing. Well, was 18 00:00:57,080 --> 00:01:00,280 Speaker 1: at twenty sixteen when Trump was running for Elex and 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: all the other late night comics didn't want to touch Trump. 20 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,760 Speaker 1: And you go back to then when we were still 21 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: getting adjusted to Trump. We're kind of comfortable now we 22 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,760 Speaker 1: know him, But then he was a shock to the 23 00:01:10,800 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: system and people didn't want to go after him on 24 00:01:13,560 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: late night. Colbert made the decision. He was after him relentlessly, 25 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:19,400 Speaker 1: night after night, and you know what, he became number 26 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: one and never gave it up. It's true he never 27 00:01:21,760 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 1: gave it up. But here we are. He's still on top, 28 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: has been doing his thing. So everybody wakes up like, 29 00:01:28,240 --> 00:01:32,240 Speaker 1: what happened? Where is this coming from? And this has 30 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 1: a lot to do with financials that we will get into. 31 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:37,360 Speaker 1: But Colbert was the one rhobes last night to I 32 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,720 Speaker 1: guess break the news to his audience. Can you imagine 33 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 1: sitting in there, thinking you're about to watch some fun 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: show and he starts off with this, Yeah, explains that 35 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:45,680 Speaker 1: to him. 36 00:01:45,440 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 2: And the audience booed, and he said, I feel exactly 37 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:53,360 Speaker 2: the same way. But it was Yeah, it was totally 38 00:01:53,360 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: shocking to hear him say I'm not leaving, I'm not 39 00:01:56,120 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: being replaced. The show is done. It's over in May, 40 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: and he talked about the two hundred people who work 41 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:05,640 Speaker 2: on the show, who loved the show, who put their 42 00:02:06,040 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 2: heart and soul into the show. Everyone is losing their 43 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 2: jobs May. 44 00:02:10,600 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 1: Because that's when his contract was up. He did sign 45 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: a new deal, three year deal that now is supposed 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: to come up in May of twenty twenty six, and 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: that is going to be it for the show. He 48 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:23,160 Speaker 1: started out with the audience last night saying, and I 49 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: quote this was his statement. Next year will be our 50 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 1: last season. The network will be ending the late show 51 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 1: in May, not just the end of our show, but 52 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,000 Speaker 1: the end of the late show on CBS. I'm not 53 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 1: being replaced, this is just going away. He went on 54 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:41,519 Speaker 1: to say, it's a fantastic job. I wish somebody else 55 00:02:42,000 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 1: was getting it, and it's a job I'm looking forward 56 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: to doing with this usual gang of idiots for another 57 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: ten months. Through in a little joke there a jab 58 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 1: at his team, But when he said that, that's something 59 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:55,920 Speaker 1: I related to, like, Yes, this is your baby and 60 00:02:55,960 --> 00:02:58,880 Speaker 1: you're in charge of it right now, and you know 61 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: you're going to have to let it go. You want 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:04,200 Speaker 1: to leave it in good hands. That's something we didn't 63 00:03:04,240 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: get a chance to do. I mean, really a much 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 1: different scale. But when he said that, like wow, he 65 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:10,919 Speaker 1: actually wish he was being replaced. 66 00:03:10,720 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: It resonated with us because of the headlines of everything 67 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 2: involved with GMA three too. Yes, you know you when 68 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,639 Speaker 2: you put your heart and soul into something like Colbert has, 69 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 2: you wanted to continue, you wanted to thrive. When you leave, 70 00:03:22,880 --> 00:03:25,840 Speaker 2: you don't want it to with her, and you certainly 71 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:27,919 Speaker 2: don't want it to die. And that's exactly what he's 72 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: facing right now. And the network was very quick. CBS 73 00:03:31,520 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 2: was very quick to point out that the decision to 74 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: cancel Colbert's show was purely a financial decision. They said 75 00:03:38,240 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: it was a financial decision against a challenging backdrop in 76 00:03:42,560 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 2: late night, and they made clear they pointed out it 77 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 2: had nothing to do with the show's performance or content 78 00:03:47,840 --> 00:03:52,000 Speaker 2: or other matters happening at Paramount. Why you think they 79 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 2: added that rogues because it it look this is it. 80 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:58,400 Speaker 2: You pointed out earlier when we first started the podcast 81 00:03:58,400 --> 00:04:00,760 Speaker 2: that Stephen Colbert has been an outs spoken critic of 82 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: President Trump since twenty sixteen. It was just on Monday 83 00:04:05,520 --> 00:04:10,080 Speaker 2: night that Colbert pointed out this settlement that happened between 84 00:04:10,480 --> 00:04:16,560 Speaker 2: President Trump and Paramount, the owner of CBS. They settled 85 00:04:16,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 2: for a sixteen million dollar settlement in a lawsuit where 86 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:24,320 Speaker 2: President Trump was suing CBS over a sixteen minutes interview 87 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,000 Speaker 2: they did with Kamala Harris so Colbert called that settlement 88 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:32,280 Speaker 2: a big fat bribe, and he even made fun of 89 00:04:32,320 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: reports out there that somehow Paramount was going to try 90 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 2: to please Trump by putting pressure on Colbert. So that 91 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:41,600 Speaker 2: was just a few nights ago, and then I believe 92 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,640 Speaker 2: it was two nights later, Colbert gets the call that 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:47,680 Speaker 2: tells him not only is he out, the show is 94 00:04:47,800 --> 00:04:49,000 Speaker 2: done and over. 95 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,120 Speaker 1: It's tough to imagine that that, given all he has 96 00:04:52,160 --> 00:04:55,039 Speaker 1: said over the years, that that set people off. But 97 00:04:55,040 --> 00:04:58,159 Speaker 1: there's a very very sensitive time, and that timing is 98 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,920 Speaker 1: just a little too close. It's if they had been 99 00:05:00,920 --> 00:05:03,680 Speaker 1: thinking about this for the past few weeks, I still 100 00:05:03,680 --> 00:05:06,760 Speaker 1: would have waited to get some separation between him making 101 00:05:06,760 --> 00:05:10,400 Speaker 1: that statement. So why that almost lends itself to the 102 00:05:10,440 --> 00:05:13,839 Speaker 1: idea that this was in some way a reaction to 103 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: what he said, but they claim it's not. But you 104 00:05:16,480 --> 00:05:19,919 Speaker 1: can tell just how fiery things have been robes the 105 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,520 Speaker 1: fact that this was a really long statement, frankly that 106 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 1: CBS put out, but they made sure to include that bit. 107 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 2: They knew the criticism was coming, they knew the speculation 108 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 2: was coming. They knew that people were going to connect 109 00:05:32,800 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 2: dots and say Stephen Colbert and The Late Show with 110 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:40,280 Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert is being canceled because of the bed that 111 00:05:40,320 --> 00:05:43,920 Speaker 2: Paramount is in with President Trump. Because yes, they had 112 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:47,840 Speaker 2: the sixteen million dollars settlement over this lawsuit, but there 113 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 2: was a reason why a lot of folks pointed to 114 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 2: them making that settlement, because they are in the middle 115 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:55,960 Speaker 2: of a multi billion dollar merger with a movie studio 116 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,640 Speaker 2: Skydance that requires approval from the Trump administration for it 117 00:05:59,680 --> 00:06:02,279 Speaker 2: to go forward. So a lot of folks believe that 118 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:06,400 Speaker 2: this settlement, this lawsuit was settled because Paramount wants to 119 00:06:06,440 --> 00:06:09,960 Speaker 2: be in good standing with President Trump so this multi 120 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:12,200 Speaker 2: billion dollar merger can move forward. 121 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:15,560 Speaker 1: And of course, if that merger does eventually happen, everybody's 122 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: going to come back and say, aha, it worked. Aha, 123 00:06:17,960 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 1: see ah, Look they bought their way out. Look they 124 00:06:20,600 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 1: fired their way out. They did everything they needed to 125 00:06:23,279 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: do to get this billion plus dout. We're talking about 126 00:06:26,360 --> 00:06:30,280 Speaker 1: a huge, huge sale of this company, and that's been 127 00:06:30,279 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: talked about for long and that's the reason for the 128 00:06:32,480 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 1: sixteen million dollars element. This is the reason for that's 129 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:37,120 Speaker 1: what they are saying out there. So I just found 130 00:06:37,160 --> 00:06:40,760 Speaker 1: it interesting that this long statement in the second frame 131 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: of it. Essentially, they included that line before. They didn't 132 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: even wait for y'all to accuse us. That's one I 133 00:06:47,640 --> 00:06:49,279 Speaker 1: always find it if honey, don't know what your mama 134 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,640 Speaker 1: always say, who's speaking first is probably the guilty one, right, 135 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,840 Speaker 1: the one that runs up. Uh, it wasn't me. I'm 136 00:06:54,920 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: having nothing to do with it, Like, I ain't even 137 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: ask you. That's what it felt like. 138 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,680 Speaker 2: Yep, it certainly so. 139 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 1: That reaction obviously came quickly from all over the place. 140 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:10,600 Speaker 1: It came from some members of Congress, It's come from everybody, 141 00:07:10,600 --> 00:07:12,760 Speaker 1: of course, on the Internet. It comes from a lot 142 00:07:12,760 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 1: of media reporters and observers. And the reaction I guess 143 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 1: so many of us robes were waiting for, was from 144 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 1: President Trump, and we did get it just a short 145 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: time ago, shortly before this recording, as we're sitting here, 146 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:27,600 Speaker 1: he did put out a statement. 147 00:07:27,800 --> 00:07:32,119 Speaker 2: Yes, President Trump went onto his favorite social media site 148 00:07:32,120 --> 00:07:36,760 Speaker 2: truth Social and said this, I absolutely love that Colbert 149 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 2: got fired. His talent was even less than his ratings. 150 00:07:42,280 --> 00:07:47,600 Speaker 1: You know, that doesn't surprise us could expect something like 151 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:50,440 Speaker 1: that from the president. What surprised me maybe a little, 152 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:52,720 Speaker 1: and maybe he was smart enough not to say it. 153 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:54,520 Speaker 1: Knew not to say it. I thought he would take 154 00:07:54,520 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: credit for it. 155 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,720 Speaker 2: He hasn't taken credit for it. But then he went 156 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,400 Speaker 2: on further to let other people know that they too 157 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 2: might be next in line. Trump went on to say, 158 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:07,440 Speaker 2: I hear Jimmy Kemmel is next. Has even less talent 159 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 2: than Colbert. Trump also said Greg Guttfield is better than 160 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 2: all of them combined, including the moron on NBC who 161 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 2: ruined the once Great Tonight Show, referring to Jimmy Fallon 162 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:21,000 Speaker 2: but didn't name him specifically. 163 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: YEA, if you don't know who Greg Guttfield is, he's 164 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 1: the guy. He is the king of Late Night, to 165 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,400 Speaker 1: be honest with you, right now on television, but he's 166 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: on Fox News. He has been doing Gangbusters over there. 167 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,439 Speaker 1: We'll get into more of him here shortly. But that 168 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: was President Trump. Schiff, actually Senator Schiff was Now, wow, 169 00:08:38,640 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: that's you're talking about two Trump critics sitting down together. 170 00:08:41,240 --> 00:08:44,800 Speaker 1: He was a guest on Colbert's show last night, and 171 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: he had something to say almost immediately after the taping 172 00:08:48,400 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: as well. And this, I guess is one of the 173 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: more high profile people robes that is suggesting that something is. 174 00:08:54,640 --> 00:08:57,719 Speaker 2: Up yeah, Adam Swift tweeted, this just finished taping with 175 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 2: Stephen Colbert, who announced his show with canceled. If Paramount 176 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 2: and CBS ended the Late Show for political reasons, the 177 00:09:05,400 --> 00:09:09,040 Speaker 2: public deserves to know and deserves better. 178 00:09:11,080 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, and that type of speculation will continue because we 179 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: don't understand how a show. There are a few I mean, 180 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,800 Speaker 1: we could start naming them right now that are institutions 181 00:09:22,880 --> 00:09:25,480 Speaker 1: in television. And you would go with the morning shows, 182 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,280 Speaker 1: well Today and jim A. You would go with certainly 183 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:34,240 Speaker 1: the Tonight Show, the Late Show, fallen, excuse me, Kimmel. 184 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy. 185 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 1: Oh yeah. There are some institutions. If somebody told you 186 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: sixty minutes was going to go away, if somebody told 187 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:42,920 Speaker 1: you one of these staples is going to go yeah, wait, 188 00:09:42,960 --> 00:09:48,160 Speaker 1: what's happening? And the show this one, I didn't realize 189 00:09:48,240 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: robes there have actually only been two hosts. 190 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:54,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's David Letterman and Stephen Colbert. 191 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: Period. 192 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 2: I didn't realize that either. 193 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:57,720 Speaker 1: I thought there were a few more sprinkled in that 194 00:09:57,720 --> 00:09:59,800 Speaker 1: the Tonight Show had several more, even though we know 195 00:09:59,880 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 1: that two main ones but had some. These are only 196 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: two guys who have ever been in charge of that show. 197 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 2: And it was actually surprising to me because it seems 198 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: like so much time and so many things have happened 199 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 2: over this past decade. But the fact that Letterman didn't 200 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 2: step away until twenty fifteen, and that is when we 201 00:10:18,840 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 2: had the new host take up for Stephen Colbert, and 202 00:10:21,320 --> 00:10:23,560 Speaker 2: so he's been doing it for ten years. But it's 203 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,439 Speaker 2: amazing to go back and look that Letterman had this 204 00:10:26,520 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 2: show for twenty plus years. 205 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, and you go back and they this was a 206 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:33,000 Speaker 1: big deal, a big coup for CBS in the first place, 207 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: because Letterman had a successful show going over at NBC 208 00:10:36,280 --> 00:10:38,760 Speaker 1: has on Late night show. They plucked him. This was 209 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: a big deal, and he builds a powerhouse at CBS 210 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: and turns that show into what it is today. Oh, 211 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:48,440 Speaker 1: what it is today, what it's going to be for 212 00:10:48,440 --> 00:10:49,480 Speaker 1: the next Way's a nine. 213 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,280 Speaker 2: Months ten months, yes, ten months. 214 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 1: But it's they tried and tried and reason this is 215 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 1: such an institution. They were trying to keep up with 216 00:10:57,720 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: the Tonight's show at the time. When you remember the 217 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,959 Speaker 1: Pat Say Jack show, Oh no. 218 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 2: Okay, I was like, wait, Pat Say Jack, yes, but 219 00:11:06,280 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 2: the show, no, we had a late night show, no 220 00:11:08,360 --> 00:11:09,160 Speaker 2: will of fortune. 221 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:11,720 Speaker 1: They tried to get a show going with him, he 222 00:11:11,720 --> 00:11:14,680 Speaker 1: couldn't compete with the Tonight Show. That show was canceled 223 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:17,720 Speaker 1: before him merv Griffin, Wow, I had a show on 224 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,920 Speaker 1: That one did okay, but there was some kind of 225 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,319 Speaker 1: contractual disputars whatever. That one went wet. So they had 226 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:26,200 Speaker 1: been trying for a long time at late night. They 227 00:11:26,320 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: nailed it, finally created this juggernaut, got two great comedians 228 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 1: to do it, and it's over. 229 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: You know what's crazy too. Three days ago, the ratings 230 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:38,640 Speaker 2: came out for the second quarter of twenty twenty five. 231 00:11:38,760 --> 00:11:43,600 Speaker 2: It was a news article published again a few days ago, 232 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 2: and they literally said the headline, Stephen Colbert is holding 233 00:11:46,679 --> 00:11:49,880 Speaker 2: on to the top spot in his hour, Greg Guttfield 234 00:11:49,880 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 2: dominating his slot. But still they were praising Colbert's ratings, saying, 235 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:59,160 Speaker 2: he's averaging two point four million, and that is fairly 236 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,320 Speaker 2: significant given what the other shows are doing. He's well 237 00:12:02,360 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 2: aware of Jimmy Kimmel's at one point seven. This was 238 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,400 Speaker 2: the last quarter, and the Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon 239 00:12:08,440 --> 00:12:10,720 Speaker 2: is one point one eight. So you look at those 240 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: numbers and Colbert was if you can say dominating, but yes, 241 00:12:14,920 --> 00:12:16,320 Speaker 2: he was doing extremely well. 242 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Dominating, but dismal. That's the problem. Your dominating ratings are 243 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: dismal compared to years past. You will find plenty of 244 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,319 Speaker 1: write up to tell you advertising dollars in late night 245 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: have gone down some fifty percent in the past five 246 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 1: to seven years, folks, fifty percent in ad dollars. That 247 00:12:35,520 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: is just not going to be sustainable when you have 248 00:12:39,240 --> 00:12:43,079 Speaker 1: these big budgets. Another thing people don't realize. Like I said, 249 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: folks who have been paying attention, this is not a shocker. 250 00:12:47,080 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: There have been not even breadcrumbs. I mean, there have 251 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:55,280 Speaker 1: been like flares going off showing the way that Late 252 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 1: Night is going. We're gonna get into that, and you're 253 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:02,959 Speaker 1: gonna say to yourself after you hear some of this, wow, 254 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:14,439 Speaker 1: I see why they did it. All right, folks, We 255 00:13:14,520 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: continue now with this really shocking news, not just that 256 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,440 Speaker 1: Stephen Colbert is going to be out at the Late 257 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: Show on CBS, but the show itself. I guess a 258 00:13:23,480 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: late night institution at this point that David Letterman started 259 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 1: is going to be going away. They are going to 260 00:13:28,920 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: cancel the show altogether. It won't be coming back after 261 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,199 Speaker 1: May when Colbert's contract is up. But Robes we've been 262 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,360 Speaker 1: talking about, you were given the ratings. He is on 263 00:13:37,440 --> 00:13:41,079 Speaker 1: top of ratings, but the ratings are so far down 264 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: from where they used to be. So the idea now 265 00:13:44,120 --> 00:13:48,120 Speaker 1: of Fallin, where we see Fallon everywhere. He's starring in this, 266 00:13:48,160 --> 00:13:51,040 Speaker 1: he's at the Christmas Prey, he's doing all these things. 267 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:54,520 Speaker 1: One million viewers is not going to be okay. 268 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 2: Now. 269 00:13:55,200 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 1: One million viewers is almost a staggering thought in late 270 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:05,079 Speaker 1: night television, giving the three million plus that were used 271 00:14:05,120 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: to be gotten just a few years ago. Yes, and 272 00:14:07,720 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 1: certainly in the heyday of the Linos and the lettermans 273 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 1: of the world. To think now the numbers we're talking 274 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,960 Speaker 1: about and the demo numbers. He's number one and overall, 275 00:14:16,000 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 1: but he's number two in the demo, right, and that 276 00:14:18,200 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 1: demo is eighteen to forty nine year olds, And we're 277 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: talking about two hundred and twenty thousand in the demo. Kimmel, 278 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 1: that's Kimmel's number. Fallon has one hundred and fifty seven 279 00:14:27,600 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: thousand in the demo. You're making a face right there 280 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: like this. Yes, because we have worked in television, we 281 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: know what those numbers mean. And that's RUSS for guys 282 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 1: making fifteen million dollars a year. 283 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 2: It's unjustifiable, is what it is. But it's interesting to me. 284 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: Why wouldn't they have asked and maybe Colbert would not 285 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 2: have considered this, But we're seeing this in network news 286 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 2: in other shows where hosts that are making huge amounts 287 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:54,720 Speaker 2: of money when the show's dwindling audience doesn't support those salaries, 288 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,600 Speaker 2: they've asked hosts to take a cut, maybe even cut 289 00:14:58,640 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 2: their salary by thirty percent, by fifty It doesn't even 290 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 2: appear that that was offered. There was no negotiation. According 291 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,320 Speaker 2: to the way Cole Bear said it, it was a 292 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,160 Speaker 2: shock to him. He got a phone call and it 293 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 2: was done over see you later. You got ten months 294 00:15:11,840 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 2: by And that is what's shocking about it. They weren't 295 00:15:15,000 --> 00:15:18,920 Speaker 2: even trying to maybe downsize or find a way to 296 00:15:18,960 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 2: cut costs to keep it alive. They just said, you're 297 00:15:22,880 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: done the cost cutting. 298 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: And again I didn't really we're not late night watchers, 299 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 1: but I did not realize this show only tapes four 300 00:15:32,120 --> 00:15:35,360 Speaker 1: nights a week, right, because they're cutting costs. Do you 301 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:39,480 Speaker 1: know that Fallon show only tapes four nights a week? Yes, 302 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: for production costs the other as well. All three late 303 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: night shows on the networks have done that. They've made 304 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:49,000 Speaker 1: that move because they're trying to cut costs. What does 305 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,560 Speaker 1: that tell you, now, CBS. That's not to say the 306 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: writing might have been on the wall. You remember the 307 00:15:53,280 --> 00:15:57,560 Speaker 1: Late Late Show, Late Late Show with James Cordon. 308 00:15:57,640 --> 00:16:00,360 Speaker 2: That's our that's our the time our alarm clocks off 309 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 2: pretty much. 310 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:03,520 Speaker 1: But by the time that show was we've been wrapping up. 311 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 2: We're waking up. So no, the point is, I've not 312 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,760 Speaker 2: seen it, but I do remember it. I know of it. 313 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:10,760 Speaker 1: See, I didn't even remember that the show got canceled, 314 00:16:11,000 --> 00:16:14,000 Speaker 1: The Late Late Show with James Cordon. Yes, was it 315 00:16:14,760 --> 00:16:18,320 Speaker 1: Karaoke the Car Karaoke Guy that everybody loves. That show 316 00:16:18,360 --> 00:16:24,120 Speaker 1: got canceled two years ago. It went away. Why because 317 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 1: it brought in forty five million dollars in revenue and 318 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: it costs sixty million dollars to put on. Dang, So 319 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 1: CBS made that move years ago. Again, that report was, 320 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: that report has been out there, But they made that 321 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: move because it just wasn't sustainable, and in its place 322 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 1: they put a like a game show with the comedian. Now, 323 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,200 Speaker 1: it just happened to that it went away because the 324 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 1: comedian wants to go back on the road touring. CBS said, 325 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: we're just not gonna continue the show, We're not gonna replace, 326 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,360 Speaker 1: So they have given away essentially a late night time 327 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 1: slot that has been there for decades. So they are 328 00:17:05,240 --> 00:17:09,919 Speaker 1: recognizing that late night is not going to be sustainable 329 00:17:10,359 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 1: for years to come. And cobear the number one is 330 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: experience in. 331 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 2: That now and part of the problem. The folks who 332 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,640 Speaker 2: are up late night are the younger viewers, which are 333 00:17:20,760 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 2: the the one type of viewer that all advertisers want. 334 00:17:25,040 --> 00:17:27,440 Speaker 2: They want them young, They want to bring them into 335 00:17:27,440 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 2: their brands to stay with them for the rest of 336 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:30,800 Speaker 2: their lives. Once you get to a certain age, they 337 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:32,880 Speaker 2: don't really wantch you. And so what are the young 338 00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 2: people doing. They're not watching television period, They're not watching 339 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,520 Speaker 2: traditional broadcasting, they're not watching cable. They are on YouTube, 340 00:17:39,560 --> 00:17:42,960 Speaker 2: they are on TikTok, and all of that content, as 341 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 2: we know, is very cheap to make and has huge 342 00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 2: returns for the content creators, much more so than what 343 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 2: we're even seeing in broadcasting. So yes, the young viewers 344 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 2: who would tend to watch the snarky comedians make fun 345 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:58,639 Speaker 2: of the day's news and the politicians behind much of it. 346 00:17:59,280 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 2: They're not watching television. Most of them don't even have TVs. 347 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 2: So this is the problem, and how do you fix it? 348 00:18:06,440 --> 00:18:07,240 Speaker 2: No one knows. 349 00:18:07,359 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: They didn't figure out how to monetize what you're talking about. 350 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: Those clips were great. Kimmel used to go viral seemed 351 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: like every week because he did some skit of some gag. 352 00:18:17,200 --> 00:18:18,840 Speaker 1: So where the kids figure out, I don't have to 353 00:18:18,840 --> 00:18:21,160 Speaker 1: stay up late and watch your whole show. I'm gonna 354 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,040 Speaker 1: see the clip in the morning, correct, and I'm gonna 355 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,919 Speaker 1: watch it for a few seconds. I'm gonna laugh and 356 00:18:24,960 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: move on about my day. You can't monetize that to 357 00:18:27,720 --> 00:18:30,080 Speaker 1: the tune of a fifteen million dollar year salary just 358 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: yet anyway. But they tried, and they've been trying and 359 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:37,719 Speaker 1: trying and trying. But the shows we talked about this 360 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 1: the other day, we just ha was it might have 361 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:42,960 Speaker 1: been a promo I think for the CBS Morning Show. 362 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,080 Speaker 1: And this is not a criticism of them, but I 363 00:18:45,119 --> 00:18:49,080 Speaker 1: look like, wow, that's the same glass table, the same 364 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 1: round table, the same three people wearing the same outfits 365 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,399 Speaker 1: with the same color background. It's as if news and 366 00:18:56,520 --> 00:19:01,320 Speaker 1: networks in particular have a difficult time change adapt evolving, 367 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:05,280 Speaker 1: and the late shows you watch tonight, it looks exactly 368 00:19:05,320 --> 00:19:07,840 Speaker 1: the way it looked when Johnny Carson did the show, 369 00:19:07,880 --> 00:19:11,040 Speaker 1: except for a few skits maybe, But it's the same thing. 370 00:19:11,320 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, And so some of the older folks are sticking 371 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 2: around because doesn't it feel good. It almost feels nostalgic, 372 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:17,919 Speaker 2: It feels safe. This is what you know, this is 373 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 2: what you like, this is how you laugh. But for 374 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 2: the folks who are younger, who they need, desperately need, 375 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 2: they can't focus. We know we have children. They can't 376 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 2: focus for more than thirty seconds on anything. So the 377 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 2: clips were great, but it wasn't driving people back to 378 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,840 Speaker 2: watch the show. So, yes, they loved watching them, they 379 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:40,439 Speaker 2: appreciated the humor, and they're wildly popular, but it doesn't 380 00:19:40,440 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 2: translate to folks tuning in at eleven thirty five to 381 00:19:43,600 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 2: watch these late night shows. 382 00:19:44,800 --> 00:19:47,600 Speaker 1: It's weird when you do think about it's the same thing. 383 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: Meeting comes out, same suit, same tie, gives the monologue, 384 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: goes over, sits behind a desk, gives a shout out 385 00:19:54,680 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: to his band, brings out whatever celebrity to promote whatever movie, 386 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 1: you do the same package, little stories and little laughs, 387 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,240 Speaker 1: and there is you're not expecting a moment anymore. Think 388 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: it the greatest late night moments. You could probably think 389 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: of what our Senil Hall I can remember one. I 390 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: can remember Jay Lintle with Was it Hugh Grant that 391 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: moment after he was arrested. Oh, there are moments that 392 00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: stand out. Those moments just don't seem. 393 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:28,960 Speaker 2: They were long, long, long ago it happened like that anymore. 394 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:31,480 Speaker 2: They really don't. And you know, you brought up the 395 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,919 Speaker 2: early show CBS and not to point, not to single 396 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:37,040 Speaker 2: them out, but all the morning shows, I would imagine, 397 00:20:37,080 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 2: and us having worked in morning television for many decades, 398 00:20:41,440 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 2: you have to think they're concerned because the same thing 399 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 2: is happening on morning television with the morning network news shows. 400 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:52,639 Speaker 2: Their audience is dwindling each year. It's they're trying to 401 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,280 Speaker 2: stop the bleeding. But there aren't gains that anyone's talking about. 402 00:20:56,320 --> 00:20:57,960 Speaker 2: These are all losses that. 403 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: Stopped the bleeding. As always, that used to always be 404 00:20:59,880 --> 00:21:03,399 Speaker 1: my complaint at a network, like all we're trying to 405 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:05,760 Speaker 1: do is hold on to the viewers we have instead 406 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: of trying to try something and be a little risky 407 00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: to possibly go gain new viewers. It was never anywhere 408 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,400 Speaker 1: that seemed to take those types comfortable tap taking those 409 00:21:16,440 --> 00:21:17,200 Speaker 1: types of risks. 410 00:21:17,280 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: No, and talking about TikTok trends or you know, that 411 00:21:20,960 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 2: doesn't make people who use TikTok tune into morning television. 412 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,040 Speaker 2: And so we've seen the desperate attempts. We've been a 413 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 2: part of them. We have contributed to some of the 414 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,200 Speaker 2: stories that we were assigned to try and get younger 415 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 2: folks to watch morning television and it simply does not work. 416 00:21:36,520 --> 00:21:39,439 Speaker 1: How many reporters in the past ten years we're tasked 417 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 1: with being the social media person and every morning what's trending. 418 00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:45,920 Speaker 2: Yes, we had social Square and we're like touching things 419 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 2: like it was an iPad on the wall because you know, 420 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 2: we were hip and cool and young and we got 421 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,200 Speaker 2: you young folks. No, we didn't. We don't. We haven't 422 00:21:52,240 --> 00:21:55,880 Speaker 2: figured it out. Television broadcasting has not figured it out. 423 00:21:55,960 --> 00:22:00,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, and like Knight has not figured it out. And 424 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: you paratly saw the headline as well. I think it 425 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 1: was a couple years ago in New York Times, is 426 00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:06,719 Speaker 1: this Late Night's last gasp. They've been talking about this 427 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:09,320 Speaker 1: for years. This is going to happen? What the streamers 428 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,520 Speaker 1: trying to come up with? The A couple of folks 429 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: doing late night on streaming. They're trying to see so 430 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: it might late night, might continue. It just might be 431 00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:18,040 Speaker 1: somewhere else. 432 00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: They might look a little in a smaller screen. 433 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:21,600 Speaker 1: And please let it look different. 434 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:24,960 Speaker 2: Please, Yeah, be innovative and that. But see the innovation, 435 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 2: the creativity and the transparency, the authenticity. That is what TikTok, 436 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:33,560 Speaker 2: That is what YouTube gives viewers. 437 00:22:33,640 --> 00:22:38,560 Speaker 1: Podcasting gives folks. We're just listening to folks differently. Yeah, 438 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: same canned stuff. 439 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 2: They want authenticity. They don't want scripts, they don't want that. 440 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,600 Speaker 2: They don't want planned and canned. They want real and new. 441 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,120 Speaker 1: And they're making that clear look of all the folks. 442 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: So many folks upset about this and Jimmy Kimmel's competition, 443 00:22:51,320 --> 00:22:53,640 Speaker 1: but he's not celebrating. These guys have collaborated on plenty 444 00:22:53,680 --> 00:22:55,439 Speaker 1: of things over the years and certainly seemed to be 445 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: say they are seemed to be robes, authentic friends. But 446 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:04,080 Speaker 1: he didn't hold his tongue and had an expletive laden response, Yes, 447 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: what happens? 448 00:23:04,920 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, on a story I was on his Instagram story, 449 00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 2: Kim Will put out love you, Stephen, fuck you and 450 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:14,359 Speaker 2: all your Sheldon's CBS. That was very blunt and to 451 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: the point. 452 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he can say that, I hope there's no 453 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 1: backlash or anything. Network's not going to go after him 454 00:23:22,640 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 1: for that necessarily. He can say what he wants and 455 00:23:24,320 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: that's his opinion. But man, that stings if you're sitting 456 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:29,840 Speaker 1: in his chair, if you're sitting in Falon's chair, if 457 00:23:29,840 --> 00:23:31,919 Speaker 1: you're looking to where even if you want to get 458 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,040 Speaker 1: rid of me, like I know, the show is going 459 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 1: to go on, but now you have to think that, Wow, 460 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:37,240 Speaker 1: even the show. 461 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 2: You're getting rid of Late Night is on the table. Yes, 462 00:23:40,480 --> 00:23:43,240 Speaker 2: that's scared, you know. I'm actually it is going to 463 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:45,359 Speaker 2: be very interesting what these ratings are going to be 464 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,679 Speaker 2: like for the next ten months, because you're seeing obviously 465 00:23:47,720 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 2: a groundswell of support for Stephen now from the actors 466 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,199 Speaker 2: and from the producers and the folks who come on 467 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:54,800 Speaker 2: his show who love his show. And we can tell 468 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 2: you what some of these folks are saying, because it 469 00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 2: is interesting. But I was just thinking to myself, are 470 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,679 Speaker 2: so many more people now going to watch Colbert now 471 00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:03,880 Speaker 2: that they've heard the headlines now that they know it's same, 472 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 2: absolutely same. 473 00:24:05,040 --> 00:24:06,960 Speaker 1: Haven't had a desire to watch a late night show 474 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 1: no matter who the guest is, anything that I hear about, Yes, 475 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,040 Speaker 1: I want to watch him for the next tea. I 476 00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:12,959 Speaker 1: do too, absolutely do. 477 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,680 Speaker 2: And I think that it might be like an incredible 478 00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: Swan song in a sense, because he might see the 479 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 2: best ratings he's ever seen in his career. 480 00:24:21,240 --> 00:24:24,199 Speaker 1: I think no doubt he will. But this reminds me 481 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 1: it's similar to professional athletes who announced that something is 482 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: going to be their last season. So now you get 483 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,680 Speaker 1: kind of a everywhere they would go for a game, 484 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 1: the crowd gives them love, and that school gives them love. 485 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,720 Speaker 1: That he now every celebrity is going to every name 486 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:44,560 Speaker 1: is going to show up in that chair over the 487 00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: next ten months to be a part of a goodbye 488 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: to him, And that's kind of cool. Yeah. 489 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,000 Speaker 2: Some of the folks, some of the folks who wrote 490 00:24:50,040 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 2: in just to give you a sense, Judd Apatow, famous 491 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 2: filmmaker and producer. He wrote, my admiration and appreciation for 492 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 2: you is bottomless excited to see what other brilliance you 493 00:24:59,560 --> 00:25:03,160 Speaker 2: put into the world. Snow White actress Rachel Zegler wrote, 494 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,600 Speaker 2: I am extremely sad. I adore you Stephen, but seven 495 00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,119 Speaker 2: star Adam Scott. I loved what he put out there. 496 00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: He said, love you, Steven. This is absolute bullshit, And I, 497 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 2: for one am looking forward to the next ten months 498 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,920 Speaker 2: of shows. And I really think that is going to 499 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,199 Speaker 2: be the sentiment from so many people. 500 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, we can understand financials, we can actually understand difficult 501 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:28,760 Speaker 1: decisions that have to be made, we can understand a 502 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:34,680 Speaker 1: changing media landscape. But this feels like bullshit exactly. It does, 503 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:37,159 Speaker 1: and we all do. Whether you watch the show or not. 504 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:40,640 Speaker 1: It's still right now. I mean people have that maybe 505 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 1: some political issues with him, but the guy's a talented comedian. 506 00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:44,719 Speaker 2: He was so funny. 507 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 1: It was The Daily Show, and then he got the 508 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:49,240 Speaker 1: Cobert Report. Yeah, Colbert Report. 509 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 2: Yes, he loved him on the Daily Show. It was 510 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 2: amazing on the and that led him to the star 511 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:55,360 Speaker 2: that he is now. 512 00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, and he's been a good steward of that show, 513 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,639 Speaker 1: that legacy show, and it was in good hands and 514 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: it just right now feels that way. 515 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 2: You know. I was on I agree. I agree. I 516 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 2: was on a plane with him on the way to 517 00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:12,119 Speaker 2: cover the Emmys. The Oscars. I can't remember which a 518 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:14,680 Speaker 2: ward show it was, and he was so kind and 519 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: so funny. I watched him interact with his wife, with 520 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: the whole rest of the plane. There was some silly 521 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,880 Speaker 2: thing that happened with the flight attendant, and I just thought, 522 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,080 Speaker 2: what a good guy like I just I don't know 523 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:26,840 Speaker 2: him personally, but I just got to actually observe him. 524 00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,159 Speaker 2: And you know, it's just, it's it's a it's a 525 00:26:29,200 --> 00:26:31,959 Speaker 2: gut punch to anyone who's so good at their craft, 526 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: who is now no longer allowed to do the job 527 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,399 Speaker 2: they're so amazing at. That is certainly said. But speaking 528 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:40,080 Speaker 2: to the politics, did you see what Senator Warren? Obviously 529 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 2: she's politically motivated, but what she said, what she said 530 00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 2: is just what a lot of folks are an investigation 531 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 2: she is so well, no, she already she already. So 532 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 2: here's the deal. This is funny. Back in May, she 533 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 2: opened an investigation into whether Paramount was engaging in bribery 534 00:26:57,800 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 2: with Trump over this s guy dance merger. So he's 535 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,879 Speaker 2: already got an investigation underway about that whole situation. But 536 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 2: she put this out on X She said, CBS canceled 537 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:10,640 Speaker 2: Colbert's show, just three days after Colbert called out CBS 538 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 2: parent company Paramount for its sixteen million dollars settlement with Trump, 539 00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,480 Speaker 2: a deal that looks like bribery, And then she said 540 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,240 Speaker 2: America deserves to know if his show was canceled for 541 00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 2: political reasons. Here's the deal. We're never gonna know that 542 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,120 Speaker 2: unless Trump announces it and says, yep, that's what happened. 543 00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,880 Speaker 2: But short of that, are we ever going to actually 544 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 2: know if that had a factor or if it was 545 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,680 Speaker 2: the factor for CBS canceling Colbert's show. 546 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:41,600 Speaker 1: The way they handle it, this one maybe is on them. Sometimes. 547 00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: I know the public can get going and social media 548 00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: can get going and say we're never gonna believe what 549 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: we're hearing kind of a I don't think it's the 550 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: public's fault. I mean, you gave us every reason to 551 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:56,000 Speaker 1: be suspicious. This was days ago, exactly. Got a call 552 00:27:56,080 --> 00:27:57,480 Speaker 1: two days after that joke. 553 00:27:57,720 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 2: Look if Jimmy Fallon's show, if the whole show is 554 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,919 Speaker 2: being canceled because of poor ratings, and NBC announced that 555 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:05,919 Speaker 2: no one would probably say a word, this is very different. 556 00:28:07,040 --> 00:28:12,119 Speaker 1: Yeah, they needed to give us more, maybe something. This 557 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:13,800 Speaker 1: could have been a set. Why would do you have 558 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: to do it now. By the way, why couldn't we 559 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 1: have waited till later in the year. 560 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,680 Speaker 2: Why we could have announced a final season in September 561 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 2: something like that. 562 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,240 Speaker 1: Why now the timing's weird. If now, if we hear 563 00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:27,679 Speaker 1: about this damn sale going through anywhere in the next 564 00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:30,920 Speaker 1: two months, okay, people are going to lose it. 565 00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:34,600 Speaker 2: They are, and honestly, rightfully so I get it, and 566 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,239 Speaker 2: I think a lot of folks listening get it. We 567 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,800 Speaker 2: understand sometimes that's not just CoInc sometimes it is. But 568 00:28:40,880 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: a lot of times, what do they say, where there's smoke, 569 00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: there's fire. 570 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: Well, Stephen Gobert, just we thank you and we love 571 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: you for the years of entertainment, for being kind on 572 00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:56,440 Speaker 1: a plane that robot was on, but we and look, 573 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,360 Speaker 1: if you need some help navigating when you have to 574 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,720 Speaker 1: leave a job and he didn't want to please, you 575 00:29:00,760 --> 00:29:01,479 Speaker 1: know where to find us. 576 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 2: Thanks for listening, everybody. Hope you have a great Friday.