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Speaker 1: Wind Down with Janet Kramer and I'm Heeart Radio podcast.

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Speaker 1: All right, girl, this week's guest. We've got an explant

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Speaker 1: doctor on. You know, I've been kind of debating wanting to,

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Speaker 1: you know, talk through that a bit. You're obviously talking

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Speaker 1: about your boobs a lot. I'm in the lift business,

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Speaker 1: That's what I'm looking for. So he's a boob doctor,

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Speaker 1: so let's get him on. Richard Whitfield, Well, thank you

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Speaker 1: for taking the time to speak with us. We really

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Speaker 1: appreciate it. I just want to clarify one thing too,

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Speaker 1: before we get into to all things boobs. Do you actually,

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Speaker 1: because I know you you do a lot about the breast?

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Speaker 1: Was it BII is the breast implant ellus? Do you

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Speaker 1: only take out or do you do you put into?

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Speaker 2: So I stopped taking I stopped placing implants for cosmetic

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Speaker 2: purposes about five years ago, and I stopped doing breast

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Speaker 2: reconstruction with implants probably in two thousand, eighteen nineteen when

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Speaker 2: I stopped doing cancer reconstruction, and that was the last

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Speaker 2: time we used them for cancer patients. And then we'll

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Speaker 2: say like in the last five you know, like twenty

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Speaker 2: one is ish I stopped placing them for cosmetics, but

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Speaker 2: I only traditionally took care of I'm sure you may

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Speaker 2: or may not have friends who had problems with their

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Speaker 2: breast procedure and needed a revision, so I would do

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Speaker 2: revision procedures. I didn't really do a bunch of what

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Speaker 2: we'd call primaries because one, young people can't afford me,

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Speaker 2: and two I don't like to deal with young people

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Speaker 2: because they can't really make informed decisions very well because

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Speaker 2: they don't have a life experience to making them. On

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Speaker 2: typically they're getting taken advantage of by folks who are

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Speaker 2: setting the floor on pricing, So like a breast dog

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Speaker 2: for like three thousand dollars with saline implants or something

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Speaker 2: like that. So my person was always like someone older

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Speaker 2: who'd probably had surgery already and had a problem, or

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Speaker 2: somebody who had cancer and had a problem. So typically

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Speaker 2: my experts would come in and that would be the

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Speaker 2: best use of my experience was to help them.

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Speaker 3: So it's not because you don't maybe believe in implants,

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Speaker 3: it's just because your line of work has gotten you

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Speaker 3: into this kind of like a little bit more of

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Speaker 3: a tunnel. Does that seem accurate or do we like

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Speaker 3: implants doctor, I just want to maybe I just need

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Speaker 3: to ask it as boldly as I want to.

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Speaker 2: So breast and plants, hip and plants, and the implants,

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Speaker 2: dental implants, cardak implants, all implants that surgeon's place can

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Speaker 2: get infected. So the risk you take, like when you

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Speaker 2: do cancer reconstruction, is if I'm repairing, say a jaw cancer,

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Speaker 2: I'm taking a bone out of your leg to reconstruct

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Speaker 2: your jaw, and then I'm putting a metal plate across

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Speaker 2: stable jaw. So all of those things are very high risk,

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Speaker 2: especially when you're putting a piece of metal in somebody.

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Speaker 2: So it doesn't really matter what implant you use. You

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Speaker 2: just have to have a healthy respect for them. And

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Speaker 2: they are tools with which you use to get outcomes.

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Speaker 2: So if it's somebody with new arthritis, you're using a

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Speaker 2: knee prosthesis, a total knee prosthesis to help prepare their

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Speaker 2: joints so they can walk without paying. If you're doing

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Speaker 2: a shoulder replacement, if you're doing a breast reconstruction, a

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Speaker 2: breast augmentation, you're doing it to change that you know

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Speaker 2: place if you will and try to improve it or

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Speaker 2: you know, make it from a psychological standpoint better for

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Speaker 2: the patient. There's there's reasons to do it, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not against implants. I use them during cancer reconstruction and

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Speaker 2: cosmetic surgery for a number of years. I just don't

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Speaker 2: use them anymore because I end up taking uh, you know,

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Speaker 2: ultimately I've taken thousands of them out, probably more than

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Speaker 2: quite quite a few more than I put in. Now.

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Speaker 3: Well, I think that's why that that's really why I wondered,

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Speaker 3: because it felt like to me, with the breast, the

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Speaker 3: breast implant illness research done, the books that you've published,

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Speaker 3: the podcasting, all of that, like you're just so well

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Speaker 3: versed that I wondered at some point if you're like,

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Speaker 3: I'd rather just not go that route if we can.

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Speaker 2: Well, eventually they're all going to have a problem. That's

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Speaker 2: why I stop taking care of everybody else's problem patients,

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Speaker 2: because they became my problem patients.

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Speaker 1: I can't wait till i'm your problem patients. I actually

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Speaker 1: soon to type location near you well.

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Speaker 2: For revision breast surgery, you know, with doing exchanges and

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Speaker 2: trying to help somebody who's got like a malposition, maybe

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Speaker 2: one implants lower when it plants higher, one's out in

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Speaker 2: I had done, you know, probably ten thousand cases for

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Speaker 2: just reconstructive purposes and all these things over years. So

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Speaker 2: you know, you feel like you can. You want to

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Speaker 2: help always, that's always the goal. We're trying to help

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Speaker 2: solve a problem. And eventually that problem just got to

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Speaker 2: be one that I didn't want to solve anymore for

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Speaker 2: other you know, providers. Basically I was taking care of

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Speaker 2: another provider's problem. I wouldn't take care of my problem. Sure,

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Speaker 2: they weren't my revision cases.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the lord's revision case.

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Speaker 3: So I have never had implants, but they are so

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Speaker 3: low and I would love to come talk to you

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Speaker 3: about a lift because I feel.

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Speaker 2: Like, yeah, so that's the one of the reasons I

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Speaker 2: wrote the thing about holistic mommy make of her is

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Speaker 2: because you don't have to use a device to get

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Speaker 2: a result, right.

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Speaker 1: And I think that's where So I'll just straight up

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Speaker 1: say people know this. I've shared them on the internet.

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Speaker 1: I have breast implants. I got them post divorce, and

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Speaker 1: I but I remember bringing up breast implant illness to

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Speaker 1: the doctor and I'm like, hey, like this kind of

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Speaker 1: do you have brain fog right now? And I'm like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm a mom, I'm tired, I've you know, I'm sure

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Speaker 1: my levels are off. So he, you know, he's like,

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Speaker 1: like you know, So he made it seem like it's

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Speaker 1: more of a psychologue, like what we make up in

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Speaker 1: our brains, and you know, from just talking to other

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Speaker 1: people that have actually had it, and then when they've

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Speaker 1: gotten their implants out, it's not just something that women go, oh,

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Speaker 1: well I have that, and I have that, and I

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Speaker 1: have that, and there's like because there's a checklist of

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Speaker 1: it's like when I look at it and I'm like, well, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've got like thirteen of those without even breast in.

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Speaker 2: Well that's the point. So the way I think about

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Speaker 2: rest implant illness is very simple. It's a chronic inflammatory process.

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Speaker 2: So you can have all the same symptoms for lime mold,

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Speaker 2: any kind of chronic inflammatory process without implants. But when

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Speaker 2: you add implants into the environment. Think of it like this.

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Speaker 2: So your body is already maybe having a little bit

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Speaker 2: you get all these different exposures, and genetically you inherent

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Speaker 2: a set of genes from each biologic parent that helps

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Speaker 2: you detoxify that set of exposures. And when you exceed capacity,

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Speaker 2: you become more and more symptomatic. You probably have more reserve,

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Speaker 2: have trouble early. Now that's probably a combination of all

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Speaker 2: those things exceeding their capacity very early. So one of

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Speaker 2: can outrun a bad diet if you don't concentrate on

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Speaker 2: And I am a big person on air quality. I

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Speaker 2: So when the mold counts high, I get these kind

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Speaker 2: You have four minutes of life without air and then

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Speaker 2: you have something that I think is really underappreciated for

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Speaker 2: women especially is obstructive sleep apnea OHSA. That's a big

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Speaker 2: reason why more women will have Alzheimer's. You don't snore,

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Speaker 2: She was doing all the things. I was like, nothing

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Speaker 2: you know, when you're you know, quote unquote horizontal at

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Speaker 2: So that's the synequona, right, that's obstructively Like she doesn't snore,

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Speaker 2: Well that's right though, So I have to wear seatpap.

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Speaker 2: and then the rest of the things that your body needs.

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Speaker 2: They talk about glymphatic system, which is like the lymphatic

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Speaker 2: system for your brain. Your overall emphatic system drains and

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Speaker 2: so in the morning when you wake up, you should

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Speaker 2: then you probably have to think about things like a

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Speaker 2: oxygen saturation dropping? Like these are all really important things

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Speaker 2: that are not quote unquote like probably said out loud

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Speaker 2: enough for patients, because you know, if you operate for

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Speaker 2: almost thirty years like I have, I know what I'm

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Speaker 2: have the same anesthesia providers. My experience is, you know,

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Speaker 2: of exposures, a certain body habitusts. I do a lot

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Speaker 3: I have titanium implants in my back. They were putting

429
00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:36,040
Speaker 3: when I was thirteen for scoliosis, so I'm very used

430
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 3: to like medical procedures. Part of the reason that I

431
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:40,280
Speaker 3: never wanted implant and I've never needed one. They were

432
00:23:40,320 --> 00:23:42,119
Speaker 3: high enough, they were big enough, they were beautiful. Now

433
00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 3: at forty four, they are low. They're tired, and they're uneven,

434
00:23:45,160 --> 00:23:47,359
Speaker 3: and it makes me sad to get dressed.

435
00:23:47,359 --> 00:23:48,160
Speaker 1: And I love styling.

436
00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 3: So it's very like it's more of like an emotional

437
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 3: thing for me, Like I have these moments, I'm my gosh,

438
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,200
Speaker 3: if I could actually get dressed the way I want

439
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: to get dressed, I'm not styling around them or picking

440
00:23:56,280 --> 00:23:58,639
Speaker 3: the one of two bras that fit. You know what

441
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 3: a life that would be. It's like luxury really, but

442
00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:04,840
Speaker 3: your your brain. And in my experience, even in the

443
00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:08,760
Speaker 3: consultation process with this in Nashville, is that not a

444
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: lot of doctors are in the whole, are in like

445
00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 3: the whole body kind of healing. To your point, your

446
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:18,239
Speaker 3: environment stays the same, but we keep changing. But you

447
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,359
Speaker 3: are one of the few doctors that I've read about

448
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 3: that actually cares about the before and the after and

449
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,440
Speaker 3: like the whole you know, nutrition, sleep, all of it

450
00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,360
Speaker 3: as a whole. In it should be the recovery process.

451
00:24:30,680 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 3: It is how it should be, but it is not

452
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: how it often is.

453
00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:36,760
Speaker 2: Well, I mean a lot of things are you know.

454
00:24:37,000 --> 00:24:41,880
Speaker 2: I I was taught by fabulous mentors. I did an

455
00:24:42,080 --> 00:24:44,919
Speaker 2: entire six year training in general surgery because I initially

456
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,960
Speaker 2: wanted to do heart surgery and then changed when I

457
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 2: went into the laboratory for a year and got involved

458
00:24:50,720 --> 00:24:53,479
Speaker 2: in doing microsurgery, and then microsurgery became what I became,

459
00:24:54,359 --> 00:24:58,840
Speaker 2: so passionate about and doing for cancer patients. So the

460
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 2: people who taught me made sure that you are very

461
00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 2: very good doctor. Before you were a good surgeon. Now,

462
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 2: surgeons typically want to operate, and that's what they're best at.

463
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,000
Speaker 2: And you know, anytime you go to a surgeon and

464
00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,960
Speaker 2: you tell them something you want and they say, ah, Like,

465
00:25:15,000 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 2: if they're like backpedaling, it's not a good sign, right, right,

466
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: surgeons are are? They're operators right, experience and repetition. And

467
00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,120
Speaker 2: you know, I don't do noses anymore. I don't really

468
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,560
Speaker 2: do open facelifts anymore. I don't do uh, what don't

469
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 2: I don't do microsurgery anymore. There's a lot of things

470
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,160
Speaker 2: I don't do anymore, not because I can't. That time

471
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 2: is just passed. Right. So the thing that used to

472
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:44,320
Speaker 2: intrigue me about cancer reconstruction was solving the problem. The

473
00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 2: thing now that intrigues me about patients with these chronic

474
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,359
Speaker 2: complammatory systems and breast implants is why is everybody so different?

475
00:25:53,160 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: Why are people acting so different? Why has somebody got,

476
00:25:57,280 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 2: you know, so many problems versus another person who has

477
00:26:00,280 --> 00:26:03,679
Speaker 2: very few problems? And then why are we so lame

478
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:05,640
Speaker 2: that we can't understand it.

479
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: Have you found a correlation if with any of those or.

480
00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah. So we published a big paper in September

481
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,760
Speaker 2: of twenty four that shows that twenty nine percent of

482
00:26:14,800 --> 00:26:17,640
Speaker 2: the xplant specimens, so the scar tissue specimens I take out,

483
00:26:18,040 --> 00:26:21,959
Speaker 2: have bacterial contamination. So bacteria is a big driver of

484
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 2: immune symptoms, and that's been shown in research studies. So

485
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,400
Speaker 2: there's a fatty acid in the breast called olaic acid,

486
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 2: and it gets oxidized by this interaction with the bacterial

487
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:38,320
Speaker 2: contamination and that leads to more symptoms. So that's a

488
00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: message that you know, it should be understood. And when

489
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:53,720
Speaker 2: folks like say it's not a problem or it's not

490
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,639
Speaker 2: a thing, well, I testified in twenty nineteen at the

491
00:26:56,720 --> 00:27:00,240
Speaker 2: FDA hearings about this problem, and then I probably this

492
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 2: big paper about this problem, and I wrote a book

493
00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:06,239
Speaker 2: about this problem. And the only reason I continue with

494
00:27:06,240 --> 00:27:08,119
Speaker 2: it is because it's not really solved. And things I

495
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:09,200
Speaker 2: can't solve piss me off.

496
00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:13,040
Speaker 1: I can't tell really freaking like you.

497
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 3: I mean, I just like get to the problem solved,

498
00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 3: solution based humans.

499
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,440
Speaker 2: Well, but everybody's talking about biohacking and all this shit.

500
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: So basically, now we're talking doctor.

501
00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:30,320
Speaker 2: I'm a traditionally trained surgeon by the people from the

502
00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 2: you know, if you want to think of like the

503
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:37,240
Speaker 2: fifty sixty seventies type folks would have been your grandparents, right,

504
00:27:37,480 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 2: no nonsense people. They didn't care. And back then the

505
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 2: stuff that was said to me, you couldn't even say.

506
00:27:43,480 --> 00:27:50,760
Speaker 2: Now I was taught extremely well. I would never go

507
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:54,600
Speaker 2: back and replace my training. It was hard, but I

508
00:27:54,640 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: was taught about surgical patient care, nutrition, critical care. Like

509
00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,399
Speaker 2: all this stuff that like somehow is like going over

510
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 2: everybody's head is pretty basic stuff. Right, to get enough

511
00:28:08,400 --> 00:28:14,200
Speaker 2: protein in your diet and enough healthy fats. You're half

512
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 2: the battles solved. Do you sleep enough? You know appropriately,

513
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 2: half the battles solved? Like you just keep adding you know,

514
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 2: good habits, and then things are not as complex, the

515
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,920
Speaker 2: kind of you know, I wrote the book about the

516
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,480
Speaker 2: methodology not to be cryptic, but just to say, like,

517
00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:36,600
Speaker 2: your genes matter, your diet matters. All these you know,

518
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 2: they call them functional medicine testing labs, which is it's

519
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 2: kind of a stop gap for like the way I

520
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: was taught wasn't effective enough because it didn't address some

521
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 2: of these other problems through through testing. Right, So now

522
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 2: everybody can spit in a tube and send it off

523
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: and know your genetics and basically a week or two

524
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 2: weeks because of the genome probably. I mean, when I

525
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 2: was training, the entire literature, scientific literature was on like

526
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 2: six CD ROMs that you had to load into a

527
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:11,720
Speaker 2: computer and then scan through. They still had books and

528
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 2: libraries and stuff like. It's not like everything was available online.

529
00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: And then over time the genome project finishes and about

530
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 2: I think three, computers get amazingly faster and you get

531
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: all this much more information. And now we're in this

532
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:29,520
Speaker 2: age now where I can talk to a computer and

533
00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 2: it can do stuff online, you know, just for you.

534
00:29:33,520 --> 00:29:38,520
Speaker 2: So I guess it's to me it's a little bit

535
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,840
Speaker 2: naive for everybody to sit back and think this is

536
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 2: not a real problem, and it's in patients' heads when

537
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 2: i've you know, it's been shown that a third of

538
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 2: them basically have an infection. All right, So that's a

539
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 2: third of the problem. Then you're like, all right, what's

540
00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 2: the other two third drop? So the other two thirds,

541
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 2: of my opinion, are a combination of their genetics, their exposures,

542
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,200
Speaker 2: and all those lifestyle things that nobody wants to deal with.

543
00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 2: All right, So y'all are very careful about what you

544
00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,480
Speaker 2: put on your body, I'm sure now, and what you

545
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:12,080
Speaker 2: put in your body. But you weren't always like that.

546
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,400
Speaker 3: No, it was in a tanning bed with the butterflies,

547
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,040
Speaker 3: getting white cheddar cheese. It's like, yeah, and drinking a

548
00:30:17,080 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 3: red Bull in vodka.

549
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 2: I mean, and you just do that plus overtrained like

550
00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,560
Speaker 2: women do, and there's part of your problem.

551
00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:27,080
Speaker 3: Oh I don't do that. No, not anymore. We're talking college.

552
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: Well no, just like in general, like thising with like

553
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:36,320
Speaker 2: overtraining and you know, creating a more if you want

554
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:39,720
Speaker 2: to think of it, whether it's an adrenal fatigue state

555
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:43,440
Speaker 2: or whatever you're creating by like overtraining, you're just adding

556
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: more stress into the situation. Or if you have like

557
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 2: a loved one pass away, or you know, go through

558
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 2: a divorce, or you have to remodel a home which

559
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: drives everybody nuts. Like all these things are just additional

560
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: problems that weigh into the equation. The other thing, and

561
00:30:58,480 --> 00:31:01,560
Speaker 2: we needed to say it out loud, is travel history.

562
00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: Like if you travel to other countries and start pooping

563
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: your pants and having diarrhea. That's a parasitic infection. Parasitic

564
00:31:09,080 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: infections are no joke. Yeah, And I live in Austin,

565
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 2: so a lot of people here go to Mexico, go

566
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 2: to Cabo, go to Cancun, And you know, all I

567
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:23,880
Speaker 2: do is ask him, like, Okay, so you don't think

568
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 2: you have a parasite after going to Mexico And they're

569
00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,360
Speaker 2: like no, I'm like, did you go off property? Off

570
00:31:29,440 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: the property and eat and what do you think? Their

571
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:38,800
Speaker 2: answer is, yeah, hundred percent. So if you went into

572
00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 2: Cabo nate at the local restaurant, then invariably you have

573
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,360
Speaker 2: a parasite, because there's no way don't.

574
00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 1: We all have parasites though.

575
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 2: Right, But so to your point, you do, but how

576
00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: your body manages it's very different. Right, So if you

577
00:31:54,800 --> 00:31:57,240
Speaker 2: can handle it, you can handle it. If you can't,

578
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 2: it can make it mentally disturb Like you gat a

579
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:04,479
Speaker 2: lot of neural inflammation from parasitic infection, not just gut stuff,

580
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:08,920
Speaker 2: so like you have all these different things that contribute.

581
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 2: And I go back to my medical training and I'm like,

582
00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:15,200
Speaker 2: I don't even sort of like the basic things about parasites.

583
00:32:15,240 --> 00:32:17,960
Speaker 2: It wasn't a big deal, Like malaria is a parasite, right,

584
00:32:18,080 --> 00:32:21,520
Speaker 2: So they teach you basic things. But because we're not

585
00:32:21,720 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 2: in this environment where it's top of mind in front

586
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:28,360
Speaker 2: of us all the time, we just don't have that

587
00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:31,760
Speaker 2: kind of experience. So I just ask about travel and

588
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 2: work all the time because I'm trying to figure out

589
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,920
Speaker 2: what are the other things that are not like right

590
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 2: in front of me. Right, So, your blood work should

591
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,000
Speaker 2: be normal. If your bud work's not normal, don't come

592
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 2: see me. I'm not going to operate on you, right,

593
00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,600
Speaker 2: You're got to get all that taken care of before

594
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:48,800
Speaker 2: you come to see someone like me. So of course

595
00:32:48,840 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 2: the people I see have been worked up seven ways

596
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:53,959
Speaker 2: from Sundays. They some people come in with like notebooks

597
00:32:53,960 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: and labs and all this stuff, and I'm like, They're like,

598
00:32:57,720 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: don't you want to look at my labs? I'm like,

599
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 2: not really, I'd rather just listen to you and hear

600
00:33:02,120 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: your history because you'll invariably tell me exactly what is wrong.

601
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: Are you on Instagram?

602
00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 2: Well that's a great question.

603
00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 1: Because I tried to find you. You should be I

604
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 1: think you'd get a lot.

605
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,080
Speaker 3: Are you willing to take two girls from Nashville to

606
00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 3: an explant? And a lift as our next question, a

607
00:33:32,680 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 3: little bestie recovery day.

608
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: The joke is last year, if you asked that question,

609
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 2: you would have been like, oh, yeah, I found you

610
00:33:39,720 --> 00:33:42,280
Speaker 2: on it, you know. But now I'm not getting shown

611
00:33:42,320 --> 00:33:44,360
Speaker 2: because of what I talk about. I get censored a lot.

612
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, because I tried to look you up and I

613
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:47,000
Speaker 1: didn't find you.

614
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:49,920
Speaker 2: Isn't that funny? Yeah, it's funny.

615
00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:51,600
Speaker 1: When you're onto something how quiet it makes you.

616
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:54,920
Speaker 2: Well, well, it depends on how much you want to

617
00:33:54,920 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: get censored on your show. But do you put this

618
00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: up on YouTube?

619
00:33:58,840 --> 00:33:59,280
Speaker 1: We do not.

620
00:34:00,040 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 2: There you go now wing talk. So I basically got

621
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:04,880
Speaker 2: taken off of YouTube last year.

622
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:06,800
Speaker 1: Okay, there used to be.

623
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:08,880
Speaker 2: The number one thing going across the feed when you

624
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:10,920
Speaker 2: typed this in. But you typed that in.

625
00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 1: Now what was it?

626
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:15,520
Speaker 2: Search brest and plant illness or breast ex plant surgery

627
00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:19,800
Speaker 2: or anything like that. They've made it. They took away

628
00:34:19,880 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 2: my licensed US doctor badge for YouTube, and they disapproved

629
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: all of our any kind of ad we made, and

630
00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 2: then they accused me of using sexualized content for the

631
00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:32,760
Speaker 2: term breast.

632
00:34:33,840 --> 00:34:37,800
Speaker 3: Oh wow, it's probably because your truth teller and those

633
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,440
Speaker 3: they like to keep you quiet.

634
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: It's it's all So where can we find you then?

635
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 1: And yes? And do you give a best friend discount?

636
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,480
Speaker 3: And will you take these two patients that are wildly

637
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:50,719
Speaker 3: different with their shirts off.

638
00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,919
Speaker 2: The best part then is you just need the third

639
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 2: person to watch YouTube.

640
00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:57,280
Speaker 1: We have our husbands.

641
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,359
Speaker 2: Oh, I don't know if you with them?

642
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,400
Speaker 1: No, we would know.

643
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 3: My husband can't do that. He'll diagnose himself with something.

644
00:35:04,280 --> 00:35:05,960
Speaker 3: We'll bring Sarah, We'll bring Kat.

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Speaker 2: Her husband's a Scottish footballer. What's your husband?

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Speaker 1: Mine's a country music artist. He's not coming with me.

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Speaker 1: He's got it. He's got a writer.

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Speaker 3: He's diagnosing himself with something somewhere right now. He's like,

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Speaker 3: we can't, No, he can't come.

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Speaker 2: You got to bring a girlfriend or somewhere or widget nurse.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, we need that. I would actually love to do

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Speaker 1: that with you, Kramer. Okay, let's do it. Doctor. Where

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Speaker 2: There's a lymphoma closely associated with UH textured implants. That's

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Speaker 2: then all of our patient stories, podcast appearances, YouTube videos

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Speaker 2: everybody there. And then I started a private community so

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Speaker 2: I don't get censored on doctor robscircle dot com and

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Speaker 2: we live stream from there routinely.

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Speaker 1: Okay, great, Well, I feel like I should get them

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Speaker 1: to come out eventually, and I'd rather recover in my

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Speaker 1: forties than in my fifties. I'm just ready to get

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Speaker 1: dressed again. But as long as I just I still

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Speaker 1: want to have some sort of boob.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll have some honey, but we got to let's

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Speaker 3: just have what we were given with a little added

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Speaker 3: Rob fatty friends.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you gotta put the fat with the fatty friends.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, Rob, thanks for chatting with us. We

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Speaker 1: really appreciate it. Of course you are great. Leave your

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Speaker 1: brand doctor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, just hit us up. We'll get you in.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Rob.

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Speaker 2: All right,