1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:04,880 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club Cowboys. This is Mick 3 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,119 Speaker 1: Shot screaming live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the 4 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:22,400 Speaker 1: official Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Walls, 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 1: and Nicky Spagnola, and it is a wonderful Wednesday edition 6 00:00:30,200 --> 00:00:34,640 Speaker 1: of Mick Shots says, we have officially begun Cardinals week. 7 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,800 Speaker 1: Here at the Star in Frisco. Bill Jones along with 8 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:43,000 Speaker 1: Mickey Spagnola. Everson Walls in transit right now after a 9 00:00:43,080 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: canceled flight this morning. So shocking, right, not that he's 10 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: in transit, but the canceled flight portrait of that is 11 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: not shocking. And so no Everson today. He will be 12 00:00:56,440 --> 00:01:01,680 Speaker 1: back tomorrow. But the football team is on the football 13 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: field and they just dallous. Football team is on the 14 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: football field. And they just finished practice too, by the way, 15 00:01:08,319 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: all right, And I did not notice any pads today, 16 00:01:11,840 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: No pads. It was another light practice. McCarthy said that 17 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: they would put on the helmets and shells tomorrow for 18 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:26,040 Speaker 1: their more extensive practice. But he's still trying to sort 19 00:01:26,080 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: of restore energy or preserve energy this late in the season. 20 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:35,040 Speaker 1: And not try to wear his team out in practices. 21 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: So they've been going light like this for the last 22 00:01:39,480 --> 00:01:45,119 Speaker 1: couple of weeks and continuing virtual meetings. Well, they got 23 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: plenty of exercise on Sunday night when you score fifty 24 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: six points. Yeah, but they only had to play three 25 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: quarters too, so they preserved more energy in that game too. 26 00:01:56,560 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, and I think they got some good. So 27 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: here's what I got here. We have a pool report 28 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:12,120 Speaker 1: because of the COVID protocols. Are you the pool reporter? 29 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: Dave Hellman and Nick Eatman I think combined to do it? 30 00:02:16,600 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: So how do we know? You and me know that 31 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 1: they weren't in padgs today without having seen the pool 32 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: room because the pool report says practice was outdoors, also overcast, 33 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,680 Speaker 1: with no shells or helmets, jerseys in caps, similar to 34 00:02:33,800 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 1: last Wednesday's practice. Okay, and I'll pull back the curtain 35 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: a little bit. Our s to BBC podcast studio happens 36 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: to be about twenty feet from the practice field. Now 37 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: we are not allowed to watch practice or go out 38 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:51,919 Speaker 1: to the practice field, but the windows are there there. Yes, 39 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: we do see it. I purposely do not stop and 40 00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: watch practice. I'll say that, but I can't help but 41 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:01,919 Speaker 1: see that they didn't have pads on today. Yes, and 42 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:06,680 Speaker 1: as I said, it's a pool report, so hopefully nobody 43 00:03:06,720 --> 00:03:10,800 Speaker 1: because I heard somebody say, well, Kelvin Watkins reported, well, no, 44 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,920 Speaker 1: he read the pool report, so he didn't have anything 45 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: anybody else didn't have. So in order on the practice today, 46 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: Tony Pollard spent the first fifteen minutes of practice off 47 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:27,080 Speaker 1: to the side on the chords with trainer Britt Brown, 48 00:03:27,840 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: and that's what he's been doing since he suffered the 49 00:03:30,760 --> 00:03:33,600 Speaker 1: foot injury. Did it all last week for the first 50 00:03:33,639 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: portion of practice and then went into practice and as 51 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: we saw in the game, they seems to be handling 52 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:47,120 Speaker 1: the plantar fascida just fine. Also, Tyrann Smith was participating 53 00:03:47,200 --> 00:03:54,480 Speaker 1: in individual drills. Both McCarthy, Jerry Jones Stephen Jones say 54 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:58,040 Speaker 1: they're very optimistic that he'll be ready to go in 55 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 1: this game. And do you rely if indeed he starts 56 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:04,720 Speaker 1: with I think they're planning on it. It'll be the 57 00:04:04,760 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: first time those five guys have all started in the 58 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: same game. Interesting, and I went back. I doubted that 59 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:16,479 Speaker 1: when I first heard it, and so if you think 60 00:04:16,520 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: about it, um Lele Collins, Zach Martin missed the first game, right, 61 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,200 Speaker 1: I thought the New Orleans game, they were there. Let 62 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 1: me check, I mean checking, I'm checking out. Check. Don't 63 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:30,960 Speaker 1: think so, because they hadn't made the change at the 64 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 1: guard position yet. I don't know. Oh yeah, because yeah, 65 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: those five meaning Connor Williams in for Connor McGaugh. Right, 66 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: that's right, And now Connor Williams was available. That was 67 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: one game they had all of their guys available, right, 68 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: And I think maybe Connor Williams in that game played 69 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:51,039 Speaker 1: a little fullback, I mean Connor, Yeah, Connor william played 70 00:04:51,040 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: a little fullback I think, and then they went back. 71 00:04:53,720 --> 00:04:57,280 Speaker 1: Actually he only played one play on offense in the 72 00:04:57,320 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 1: New Orleans game. Well, in that game, Terr and Steel 73 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,600 Speaker 1: had COVID that game, and so it was the following 74 00:05:03,640 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 1: week at Washington Is where they had everybody. Everybody and 75 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: that was Connor Williams had thirteen snaps as a fullback 76 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: in that game, as Connor McGovern was the starter at 77 00:05:15,360 --> 00:05:18,680 Speaker 1: left guard. Right, So it looks good for those guys. 78 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,599 Speaker 1: Also good news on the COVID front. Malik Hooker and 79 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 1: Treston Hill were both activated from reserve. COVID were in 80 00:05:28,880 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: practicing in the portion open that's regularly open to the media. Also, 81 00:05:36,040 --> 00:05:44,919 Speaker 1: Chiquon Hardy and Brandon Smith were also participating after being restirreed, restored, 82 00:05:45,200 --> 00:05:51,600 Speaker 1: restored to the practice squad, so they are off the 83 00:05:51,640 --> 00:05:55,919 Speaker 1: COVID nineteen lists. Noah Brown, remember him, the wide receiver 84 00:05:56,360 --> 00:06:00,240 Speaker 1: out with a groin He was practicing too, so they 85 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:03,120 Speaker 1: have moved him off of well, he was on IR 86 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:08,279 Speaker 1: now he's on IR designated to return. So that opens 87 00:06:08,279 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 1: a twenty day window, twenty one day window along with 88 00:06:11,680 --> 00:06:17,200 Speaker 1: Jay with Vasher and Josh Ball who already had been 89 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: activated and because of Bernard Francis Bernard's injury. I believe 90 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:28,120 Speaker 1: it was a groin injury. Uh, they've added DeVante Bond 91 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: to the practice squad, so they needed another linebacker to 92 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: kind of help him out through practice on the designated 93 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: to return rules. Because we talked about it last week 94 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 1: on Ball and who's the other one that they activated 95 00:06:43,360 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: or they well vashera and um, where was the other guy? 96 00:06:51,279 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: It was Josh Ball. Josh Josh Ball was the main 97 00:06:53,360 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: one I was talking about, right, and we surmise that 98 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: were three weeks left in the season, that would be 99 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: a three week window where that he could practice with 100 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 1: the team exactly. So my question is how does that 101 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: extend into the postseason or done? Part? I don't know that. 102 00:07:09,680 --> 00:07:13,600 Speaker 1: That's what I'm wondering, is with this he can continue practicing? 103 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: Well yeah, and because what they've done now with it 104 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: was Noah Brown. All right, so your three week window 105 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:21,560 Speaker 1: obviously that takes you to the first week of the 106 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: playoffs there. Yeah, So I'm wondering if do they have 107 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:29,880 Speaker 1: to then make a decision on Josh Ball after the 108 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:32,760 Speaker 1: end of the regular season whether he can still practice 109 00:07:32,760 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 1: with the team in the postseason? Right, yeah, I don't 110 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:36,640 Speaker 1: know if you But the thing you can do on 111 00:07:36,720 --> 00:07:39,280 Speaker 1: that too, you just the window expires and you can 112 00:07:39,360 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: start it anew or has he gone done or I 113 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,960 Speaker 1: think you're just done? Is he done? Then you revert 114 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 1: to injured reserve. Okay, he does, and he cannot and 115 00:07:48,400 --> 00:07:51,080 Speaker 1: it cannot be exercised. Again, Let's say the Cowboys had 116 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:55,160 Speaker 1: a need two weeks into the postseason, they he would 117 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: not be an option, I think, I think, Okay, I'm 118 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: thinking that's the way that one goes. So anyway, that's 119 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: your update. So Malie Cooker and Tristan Hill both back 120 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: in practice or at least the portion that the pool 121 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: reporter was able to watch. And just understand there was 122 00:08:13,480 --> 00:08:17,280 Speaker 1: a pool reporter. The media is not being allowed into 123 00:08:17,320 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: the building and various protocols going on. That came out 124 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:29,560 Speaker 1: yesterday and NFL sent out a notice that for those 125 00:08:29,800 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 1: media members that want to cover playoff games, they have 126 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:38,760 Speaker 1: to have proofs proof of their booster shot by j 127 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:43,840 Speaker 1: January twelve, which is the Wednesday prior to the wild 128 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:47,840 Speaker 1: card games in the postseason as it stands right now, 129 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 1: and I would assume it's going to continue into the postseason. 130 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: And the reason there is a pool reporter is across 131 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:59,440 Speaker 1: the league, the NFL is not allowing reporters basically into 132 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 1: the facility these unless you work for the team, and 133 00:09:03,679 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 1: even if you work for the team something, you don't 134 00:09:05,840 --> 00:09:09,880 Speaker 1: have access. Yeah, and you don't have access unless you're 135 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:15,120 Speaker 1: a pool reporter to the practice. So everybody understands. Mike 136 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:23,320 Speaker 1: McCarthy's daily interview is now a WebEx interview and at 137 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,040 Speaker 1: least they've got him on camera and it kind of 138 00:09:26,080 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: looks like he's talking to us and you could see 139 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 1: us too, so that helps out. And the same thing's 140 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:34,679 Speaker 1: going to happen with the players and they're doing those 141 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 1: right now, and those are going on right now. Yes, 142 00:09:37,200 --> 00:09:40,080 Speaker 1: So anyway, that gives you an update of what sort 143 00:09:40,120 --> 00:09:43,520 Speaker 1: of is going on around here. And I would imagine 144 00:09:43,559 --> 00:09:45,679 Speaker 1: we have a heck of a lot to talk about, Yes, 145 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 1: we do. And of course one of those things that 146 00:09:48,120 --> 00:09:52,200 Speaker 1: we will talk about was the news that came down 147 00:09:52,400 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: last night about the loss of John Madden. And we'll 148 00:09:55,920 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: spend some time here talking about John Madden and his 149 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: impact on Cowboys fans through the years here. Maybe we'll 150 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:10,080 Speaker 1: do that in our second segment. Okay, do that time 151 00:10:10,160 --> 00:10:13,920 Speaker 1: to it. Yep. And of course passed away at the 152 00:10:13,960 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: age of eighty five, and the NFL made that announcement 153 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: around six o'clock last night, said he died unexpectedly yesterday morning, 154 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: but he had the family he had been. Um. I 155 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,240 Speaker 1: don't know what exactly was, but for the last three 156 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:34,079 Speaker 1: or four years, he's I think you've probably seen him 157 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:40,760 Speaker 1: sort of disappear from a public person. I should say, 158 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: he wasn't doing interviews anymore. Um. And uh so he 159 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: had been battling something for for quite some time. Um. 160 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:53,000 Speaker 1: It sounds like the family didn't expect the time to 161 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,959 Speaker 1: come when it did. Yeah, yesterday morning, which is and 162 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:58,360 Speaker 1: I know we're going to get into this, but to 163 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,720 Speaker 1: set it up, he ends up passing away two days 164 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:07,000 Speaker 1: after Fox Sports ninety minute documentary that showed on Christmas Day. 165 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 1: I guess three days. I guess, I said two days. 166 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: And they acted and that was the first thing I've 167 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:18,600 Speaker 1: seen him do, because they did a really neat thing. 168 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 1: I haven't seen it yet, so for those of you 169 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: who have not seen it, watch it. It is really riveting, 170 00:11:28,800 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: really well done, one of the best I think I've 171 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:35,840 Speaker 1: seen in quite some time. But one of the elements 172 00:11:35,880 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: they used was they allowed John to sit in front 173 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 1: of a big screen and watch it, so he got 174 00:11:44,760 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: to see the and you got to see his reaction 175 00:11:48,960 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: to some of the things they had on the and 176 00:11:51,640 --> 00:11:54,840 Speaker 1: that's how they used him in the In the video, 177 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:59,360 Speaker 1: you know, they had old interviews, old video stuff like that, 178 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: but that's how they basically used him in the documentary, 179 00:12:03,559 --> 00:12:07,080 Speaker 1: him watching what other people were saying about him, and 180 00:12:07,200 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 1: he did make a few comments. All I'm telling you 181 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,800 Speaker 1: is you gotta watch it. It was John Madden, This 182 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:17,360 Speaker 1: is your Life, Yes basically. Yeah, all right, So we'll 183 00:12:17,400 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 1: talk more about Madden coming up here in the next segment. 184 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:27,840 Speaker 1: You know, as I like to do, I like to 185 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:32,000 Speaker 1: go behind enemy lines and listen to talk radio in 186 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: the opposing city each week. I've tuned in a little 187 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:38,160 Speaker 1: bit to Phoenix Radio in the last couple of days. 188 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:41,679 Speaker 1: And that is a team, the Arizona Cardinals that is 189 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,560 Speaker 1: reeling right now. As everyone knows, they've lost three in 190 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: a row. They're three and five since starting the season 191 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:52,080 Speaker 1: seven and zero. It's going to be a motivated team 192 00:12:52,280 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: coming in here on Sunday to play the Cowboys because 193 00:12:56,720 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: they've wrapped up a playoff spot. They do want to 194 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:02,520 Speaker 1: win their division obviously, and they've got this game and 195 00:13:02,520 --> 00:13:05,280 Speaker 1: then they close against Seattle and they got the Rams 196 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: that are the division leaders right now. But more than anything, 197 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:12,800 Speaker 1: they need to get to play in football better again. 198 00:13:13,000 --> 00:13:16,199 Speaker 1: And so that's that's their main motivation coming in here. 199 00:13:16,280 --> 00:13:19,160 Speaker 1: And by the way, uh, this will be of interest 200 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,480 Speaker 1: to you. They're gonna go behind enemy lines because our 201 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:25,800 Speaker 1: former teammate and I was wondering, sat in with us 202 00:13:25,880 --> 00:13:30,520 Speaker 1: many times on Mick Shots. Danny Sereku is now working 203 00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:36,559 Speaker 1: for the Arizona Cardinals kind of running their production department, 204 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: the video TV. She went their mid season yeah about 205 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:43,240 Speaker 1: the earl. It was I thought it was about the 206 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,040 Speaker 1: time they were seven, And oh, I was gonna blame 207 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 1: Danny for I think she started. I think she started. 208 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: All it was light at the beginning. All right, So 209 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: we'll give her. We're gonna we're gonna do a little 210 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 1: zoom things and she's going to interview me. How about that? 211 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,680 Speaker 1: All right? So uh, and she's doing well and loves it, 212 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 1: so good for her. Of course, she's from right here 213 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 1: in Dallas, and so I bet she can't wait to 214 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 1: come back here and another great universe in Missouri. That's 215 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,920 Speaker 1: exactly right, that's right. And of course Kyler Murray, you know, 216 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: you look at the Cardinals and we'll get into more 217 00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 1: of them in the next couple of days, but you 218 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:23,360 Speaker 1: look at where their season kind of went sideways here 219 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:26,480 Speaker 1: in the last couple of months. He got hurt, missed 220 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: three games. Colt McCoy came in for him and actually 221 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,040 Speaker 1: was two and one as the starting quarterback, and so 222 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,400 Speaker 1: it's kind of been since then. It's you know, they 223 00:14:35,480 --> 00:14:40,200 Speaker 1: lost DeAndre Hopkins to an injury, and so things have 224 00:14:40,320 --> 00:14:42,760 Speaker 1: gone haywire for them. But when he looked back to 225 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: last year, I think Kyler Murray continued his streak of 226 00:14:46,920 --> 00:14:50,840 Speaker 1: being undefeated at AT and T Stadium. Yep, and here 227 00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,760 Speaker 1: he comes again, yep. So it's well, it'll be even 228 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 1: a newer year come right, That's right, And so it's 229 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: time for the Cowboys to do to break that streak 230 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: that he started not only at Alan High School, but 231 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:10,080 Speaker 1: at Oklahoma and then with the Cardinals. You know, he 232 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: didn't play all that well against himself against the Cowboys 233 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,880 Speaker 1: last year. He was errant with some passes early, but 234 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:22,480 Speaker 1: he had a big bomb to Christian Kirk and you 235 00:15:22,520 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 1: know that got the Cardinals going in that game, and 236 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 1: the Cardinals had their way with the Cowboys. But that 237 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,640 Speaker 1: was a totally different Cowboys team of yeah, and a 238 00:15:29,640 --> 00:15:34,080 Speaker 1: totally different defense too, by the way, and dan Quinn 239 00:15:34,120 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: had done a wonderful job. And by the way, we 240 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 1: probably I don't know if we had a chance to 241 00:15:38,320 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: mention that yesterday that Jacksonville had contacted the Cowboys for 242 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:49,320 Speaker 1: permission to interview Dan Quinn and Kellen Moore for their 243 00:15:49,400 --> 00:15:52,320 Speaker 1: vacant We did talk about the coaching job. I think 244 00:15:52,360 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: what we didn't talk about was all the other guys 245 00:15:54,960 --> 00:16:00,840 Speaker 1: that they are either have interviewed or will interview. They're 246 00:16:00,920 --> 00:16:05,160 Speaker 1: interviewing six coordinators, so I gave you two. And then 247 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: Tampa Bay's offensive coordinator Byron Leftwich who played for Jacksonville. 248 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:16,560 Speaker 1: Also Tampa Bay's defensive coordinator Todd Bowles. Again shows you 249 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,840 Speaker 1: when you win a Super Bowl, everybody's trying to poach 250 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,680 Speaker 1: guys that help you win that Super Bowl. Also former 251 00:16:23,720 --> 00:16:29,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys linebacker coach now the Colts defensive coordinator Matt Eberflus, 252 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: and also Nathaniel Hackett, the Packers offensive coordinator. Paul Hackett's son, 253 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: former Cowboy assistant offensive coordinator. He will be interviewing. And 254 00:16:41,600 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: then they's also been reported that they have shown interest 255 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:52,600 Speaker 1: in Doug Peterson and Lyon's former head coach, Jim Caldwell. 256 00:16:52,960 --> 00:16:56,040 Speaker 1: And I understand. I think I saw on Twitter just 257 00:16:56,400 --> 00:17:00,760 Speaker 1: here within the last hour that they are interviewing Peterson tomorrow. Tomorrow, 258 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 1: that's when his Have you heard anything about the timeline 259 00:17:04,440 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: on when they might interview more so, and any clarification 260 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:13,119 Speaker 1: on does that need to happen prior to the end 261 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: of the regular It? Does that need to happen prior 262 00:17:14,880 --> 00:17:16,679 Speaker 1: to the end of the regular It can happen, Yes, 263 00:17:16,920 --> 00:17:20,600 Speaker 1: just because it opened yesterday to at grant permission, and 264 00:17:21,000 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: just listening to McCarthy, I got the idea that you know, 265 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:30,520 Speaker 1: Friday Saturday once basically, as they say in the business, 266 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: the haze in the barn, that they would have time 267 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: to be able to do that and still take care 268 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: of whatever business they have with the Cowboys. But if 269 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: I'm looking at all those candidates, I don't know Byron 270 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: Leftwich's name comes out to me. Yeah, played there, people 271 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: know him. It's done a really good job in Tampa Bay. 272 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 1: Although I don't know that he could bring Tom Brady 273 00:17:56,800 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: with him, but he's got a young quarterback that you 274 00:17:59,680 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: know you could work with, and you bring in a 275 00:18:01,600 --> 00:18:05,120 Speaker 1: good another good quarterback coach, and you've got an offensive 276 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,360 Speaker 1: quordinator who played in the league that certainly would help 277 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:11,679 Speaker 1: him out. And they should have a whole lot of 278 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: draft talent capital capital. That's what I was looking for, 279 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:23,920 Speaker 1: and I would imagine still have a bunch of free 280 00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:26,560 Speaker 1: agency capital too to spend. They always seem to have 281 00:18:26,600 --> 00:18:30,239 Speaker 1: a lot of money, so um, you know, it's not 282 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,720 Speaker 1: a bad situation when you think you have your franchise 283 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 1: quarterback and uh, there's an Ian Rappaport report. Uh, let's 284 00:18:41,920 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: see that. Just getting this from Chris Beam, it sounds 285 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,119 Speaker 1: sounds like Quinn will interview after the regular season. He 286 00:18:54,240 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: turned down during the season. During an interview than these 287 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,400 Speaker 1: two weeks, he says he'll do it after the season 288 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,240 Speaker 1: is over. And he does that mean after the season's 289 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 1: over or after the regular season's over? 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They've requested permission 340 00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:09,000 Speaker 1: and he has indicated, according to reports, that he will 341 00:22:09,119 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: not interview with them until the season is over, and 342 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:15,920 Speaker 1: that means the season is over, not the regular season 343 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,639 Speaker 1: is over. It is a two week window that leads 344 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: that gives teams that have a head coach vacancy here 345 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,639 Speaker 1: but prior to the start of the playoffs opportunity to 346 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:29,359 Speaker 1: talk with an assistant coach with other teams with permission. 347 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:33,080 Speaker 1: So the other thing to point out is just because 348 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:38,240 Speaker 1: you're getting interviewed doesn't mean you know you're dead set 349 00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,840 Speaker 1: on getting the job. I can remember when Sean Payton 350 00:22:42,160 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 1: was interviewed by Al Davis for the Raiders' head coaching 351 00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,360 Speaker 1: job when he was with the Cowboys, and that would 352 00:22:49,400 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 1: have been two thousand and five, I believe, and I 353 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 1: think he just had a few misgivings of taking over 354 00:22:56,160 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the Raiders at that time, not knowing who the quarterback 355 00:23:00,200 --> 00:23:02,840 Speaker 1: was going to be. And I remember he turned the 356 00:23:02,920 --> 00:23:05,520 Speaker 1: job down and somebody in the national media said he 357 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: just committed professional suicide because if you turn down Al Davis, 358 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,520 Speaker 1: you know who else is going to come after you. Well, 359 00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:16,120 Speaker 1: the next year, the Saints came knocking at the door. 360 00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: And how that turn out. He's still there. I think, yes, 361 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 1: I think so and uh. And then Mike Zimmer had 362 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,920 Speaker 1: an opportunity to become the head coach at the University 363 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 1: of Nebraska and went through the Inner forty practice and 364 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 1: US process, and he's he ended up turning that down 365 00:23:32,920 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: and ended up being coming defensive coordinator and then a 366 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: head coach, So you know what and and sometimes you know, 367 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: from from Zim's standpoint, he just didn't want to go 368 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: back and recruit, you know, go on the road and 369 00:23:45,359 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 1: deal with eighteen year old kids and um, you know 370 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: it's one thing to recruit free agent. That does not 371 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: seem like something that he would enjoy, no, right, because 372 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: it was he was at Washington State nineteen ninety four 373 00:23:57,600 --> 00:24:01,680 Speaker 1: ninety five US when he came here. Zim was he 374 00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: at Washington or Weber State. He was at Weber for sure, 375 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,680 Speaker 1: with David Campbell, and that's out of campell O think 376 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:11,159 Speaker 1: I thought he might have been at just prior to 377 00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: coming here, But it was ninety four season. I believe 378 00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 1: ninety because he came as a defensive assistant and then 379 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:23,560 Speaker 1: he became the secondary coach after Campo was named the 380 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:27,160 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator after Butch Davis. He was in his thirties then, 381 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,440 Speaker 1: and it's a lot a little different recruiting college kids 382 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 1: when you're thirty two instead of sixty two. So interesting 383 00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 1: note on Zim, as we're getting off track here, but 384 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,120 Speaker 1: he was a grad assistant at the University of Missouri 385 00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:43,160 Speaker 1: when I was there covering the team for the Columbia Tribune. 386 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 1: He's older than I had him then, and I got 387 00:24:46,280 --> 00:24:48,959 Speaker 1: to and I got to know him then. And when 388 00:24:49,040 --> 00:24:51,399 Speaker 1: he showed up here, he looked and I looked at him, going, 389 00:24:51,520 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: no kidding, you're the guy, the young guy that you know. 390 00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:56,880 Speaker 1: It was basically sort of my age at that time. 391 00:24:57,680 --> 00:24:59,520 Speaker 1: He would still be sort of your age, and he 392 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:04,159 Speaker 1: probably still old at that time. He was all right, 393 00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:07,639 Speaker 1: let's talk John Madden. There's so much that I mean, 394 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:11,880 Speaker 1: you could, as we talked about with the documentary on him, 395 00:25:12,119 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: there's there's not enough time in the day to talk 396 00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:19,680 Speaker 1: about all the John Madden stories. But let's you know, 397 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: especially his impact as far as cowboys fans are concerned. 398 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: You know, you look back at his career and he 399 00:25:28,760 --> 00:25:33,560 Speaker 1: what people may not realize at such a young age. 400 00:25:33,600 --> 00:25:36,639 Speaker 1: He became the head coach of the Oakland Raiders and 401 00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: ten years as a head coach throughout the decade of 402 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: the seventies until seventy eight seventy nine, and retired at 403 00:25:44,040 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: age forty two. Went right into the broadcast booth and 404 00:25:48,680 --> 00:25:53,160 Speaker 1: the legend continued from there. Yeah, and I was fortunate 405 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: to have a couple brushes with him, the ones that 406 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:05,160 Speaker 1: stick out. I was at the two thousand and six 407 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:10,119 Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame induction covering basically Troy Aikman. 408 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: That's the year he was inducted, and that was the 409 00:26:14,160 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: year John went in and I think everybody remembers his speech, 410 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,800 Speaker 1: his induction speech, and the thing that always hit me 411 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:26,440 Speaker 1: and still does every time I walk into the Hall 412 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:30,080 Speaker 1: of Fame rotunda where the busts are as, he basically says, 413 00:26:30,280 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: I'm convinced that when the lights go off in the 414 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 1: building and everybody leaves the Hall of Fame, that the busts, 415 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: the busts talk to each other. And it just I 416 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: don't know, but when I walk in there, I could 417 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:48,040 Speaker 1: visualize what he was thinking, right, and I just thought 418 00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,679 Speaker 1: that was just a wonderful thing, way to put things right. 419 00:26:52,760 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 1: And then that the year before two thousand and five, 420 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:01,280 Speaker 1: when the Cowboys played back to back games at San 421 00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,679 Speaker 1: Francisco and Oakland, and Bill kept the Cowboys team there. 422 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:09,240 Speaker 1: Didn't want to travel back and forth, so we stayed 423 00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: in San Francisco Oakland area. John Madden had Rich Dealrymple, 424 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:20,800 Speaker 1: the Cowboys executive vice president of public relations, put together 425 00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:25,560 Speaker 1: a group and we got bust to his town where 426 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 1: he was living Pleasantonalfourgnia, and he treated us to dinner 427 00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: at his favorite steakhouse, and it was like, are you 428 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:39,239 Speaker 1: kidding me? We're doing this with John Madden. And then 429 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,600 Speaker 1: the last thing from a personal standpoint, and you know 430 00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: when you do. You've been in the business as long 431 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 1: as we have, you've met people, you don't get star struck. 432 00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,200 Speaker 1: I think it's only happened to me. I think I 433 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:59,359 Speaker 1: told you this story twice. Maybe. The fiftieth anniversary of 434 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,400 Speaker 1: the m B All Star Game was at Comiskey Park, 435 00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:05,040 Speaker 1: and you know, my guy growing up as a White 436 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 1: Sox fan was Louie Apparizio, and they had the old 437 00:28:08,359 --> 00:28:12,000 Speaker 1: timer's game and interviews in the locker room or whatever 438 00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:17,840 Speaker 1: they call it the clubhouse, and I just couldn't bring 439 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: myself to ask him a question. I was just like, no, 440 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: this isn't right. Right. When I was ten years old, 441 00:28:24,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to be Louie Apparizio, right, we were about 442 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: the same size. And then that time in two thousand 443 00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,760 Speaker 1: and six at the Super Bowl when I interviewed Bart Starr, 444 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: who I idolized growing up a Packers fan, And that 445 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: was when Troy they were We were asking questions about 446 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 1: if Troy deserved to be in right, and that's when 447 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,280 Speaker 1: he poked me in the chest when he answered my question, 448 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:54,640 Speaker 1: going Bart stars hit me in the chest. Right. But 449 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,480 Speaker 1: you know, when the Cowboys got good, it was summer, 450 00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:00,719 Speaker 1: all in Madden doing the game games right, and they 451 00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:05,120 Speaker 1: were always at the ranch, always around in the press box. 452 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: And I don't know how it happened, but I remember 453 00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 1: passing him and he said, hi, Mickey Well and I 454 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: said he knows who. And it's like, oh my god, 455 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 1: And I thought that was like the coolest thing ever 456 00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: that John Madden knew who I was just from covering 457 00:29:24,120 --> 00:29:27,760 Speaker 1: the Cowboys being right. He got on Dallas Cowboys dot com. 458 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,160 Speaker 1: This might have been before Dallas Cowboys dot com too. 459 00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: I can't remember exactly the timing of it, but well, 460 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:37,000 Speaker 1: he got the clips. Yeah, he was doing research, right. 461 00:29:37,800 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: Those guys do the research they know. As a matter 462 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: of fact, that time, I think I told you when 463 00:29:43,720 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were playing the Eagles, and this was just 464 00:29:46,520 --> 00:29:49,560 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, and one of their former players, 465 00:29:49,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: was doing radio for him. He was the analyst on radio, 466 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 1: and ended up in the elevator at AT and T 467 00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,320 Speaker 1: Stadium with him going up to the press box before 468 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: the game, and uh, and I knew who he was 469 00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: and I said something to him and he goes, oh, yeah, 470 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: he goes listen to talking cowboys all the time. That's 471 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:15,280 Speaker 1: so he was doing his research, right, figuring out if 472 00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: he can find stuff out, probably for the head coach. 473 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:21,240 Speaker 1: So I don't know, you know your memories of Madden, 474 00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,240 Speaker 1: you know, and for us, you just need to understand 475 00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:27,240 Speaker 1: we remember him as the head coach right where you 476 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,200 Speaker 1: remember him as the TV guy, not Madden. And that's 477 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,280 Speaker 1: why I yeah, that's why I thought it was cool 478 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: that they named the documentary all Madden. It was pretty neat. Yep. 479 00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: And um, you know, as you alluded to earlier, he 480 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 1: here in his latter years at reclusive lifestyle. He wasn't 481 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:55,200 Speaker 1: in the limelight out in public much at all. I 482 00:30:55,320 --> 00:30:57,400 Speaker 1: don't know if this this may have been close to 483 00:30:57,640 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: one of his last public appearances was at Pat summer 484 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: All's memorial service. Pat passed away. Of course, Pat lived 485 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,960 Speaker 1: here in Dallas and South Lake and he passed away 486 00:31:09,280 --> 00:31:13,200 Speaker 1: April twenty thirteen, So that's now been more than eight 487 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: years ago. It's that long. Yeah, and um and and 488 00:31:19,080 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 1: John Madden delivered the eulogy at Prestonwood Baptist Church here 489 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:25,959 Speaker 1: and I was I was here at the memorial service 490 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,240 Speaker 1: as a moving tribute. You can I'm gonna I'll find 491 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:33,240 Speaker 1: it and tweeted out the link on YouTube. Uh. He 492 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:38,080 Speaker 1: talked about fifteen minutes about Pat. But um, it was 493 00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 1: really great and um just telling stories and stuff and 494 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:46,200 Speaker 1: and and how much Pat, how close they were, how 495 00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:49,240 Speaker 1: you know, they worked together for twenty two years and 496 00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 1: but beyond that they were they were close friends. You know, 497 00:31:52,800 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 1: there are some people you worked with him for twenty 498 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: two years and and you know you just, uh, you're 499 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,640 Speaker 1: not necessarily close friends, but they were. And you know, 500 00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: I had the opportunity. It was the last eight years 501 00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:09,880 Speaker 1: of Pat's life. Pat was in a Bible study that 502 00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: I'm in and it's still going out eight years later. 503 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 1: Pat was always the first one there. Apparently I wasn't 504 00:32:18,640 --> 00:32:20,640 Speaker 1: always the first. I was usually the last one there. 505 00:32:21,480 --> 00:32:23,680 Speaker 1: But I'm told that, you know, Pat would would get 506 00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: there first, and he would tell stories. One of the 507 00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: stories that he loved to tell about John Madden was Thanksgiving. 508 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: Whenever the first CBS and then Fox teams were here 509 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:43,000 Speaker 1: doing a Thanksgiving game, Pat would have the whole broadcast 510 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 1: crew at his house in South Lake for a dinner 511 00:32:46,160 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: on Wednesday night, and Pat said, the only time that 512 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 1: he ever saw John Madden speechless was the time it 513 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: was a Wednesday before the Thanksgiving game and they were 514 00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:03,200 Speaker 1: about to have dinner with the whole broadcast team there. 515 00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 1: I mean we're talking production crew, everybody there, so there's 516 00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: probably dozens of people there. And so they were about 517 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:12,960 Speaker 1: sitting down to dinner and Pat said, you know what, 518 00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 1: it'd be nice if John, maybe you could say grace 519 00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: and give thanks before before we sit down to eat. 520 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: He looked at the direction of Madden and he said, 521 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:29,200 Speaker 1: Madden turn beat for the first time. It was a 522 00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: bit about that time. John Webber, the Cowboys late the 523 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:39,480 Speaker 1: team chaplain, who was standing behind Madden, started with our 524 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 1: father in Heaven, we want to give Summer always was 525 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: looking in the direction of John. But it wasn't Madden. 526 00:33:46,920 --> 00:33:51,640 Speaker 1: It was Webber that but he always he would always 527 00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 1: tell that story at Thanksgiving. Tied the time that that 528 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:57,600 Speaker 1: John Madden was speechless. He asked him to say grace. 529 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 1: And one of the things you also need to do 530 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:04,040 Speaker 1: is go on Dallas Cowboys dot com. Jerry Jones had 531 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: a statement and it's pretty long. I'm not going to 532 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,480 Speaker 1: read the whole thing, but I thought this paragraph really 533 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:13,600 Speaker 1: summarized John Madden. He said, when he walked into the room, 534 00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,760 Speaker 1: it was a better day. When he talked, you listened 535 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,520 Speaker 1: and you learned. When he laughed, everyone in the room laughed. 536 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,919 Speaker 1: And when he got back on the bus to leave, 537 00:34:23,080 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: you always wanted more. You were always looking forward to 538 00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: his next visit. And I think he's He's absolutely right. 539 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,760 Speaker 1: And if you if you remember, you know he hated 540 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 1: to fly, which was one of the reasons he quit coaching. 541 00:34:38,000 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: And then he gets into the TV business and he 542 00:34:40,239 --> 00:34:43,400 Speaker 1: started on the train. He was mister Amtrak and that 543 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: was taken too long with the Madden cruiser idea on 544 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,400 Speaker 1: the bus, and you know what, because of that, we 545 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,759 Speaker 1: came up with that idea to do the Cowboys bus 546 00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:59,760 Speaker 1: going to training camp for several years to Oxnard. Also 547 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: Emery our bus driver, Emily Tyler, we did the roundabout 548 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: trip to San Antonio. We didn't just take the four 549 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:11,400 Speaker 1: and a half hour drive down I thirty five. We 550 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 1: went through the hill country, we went down to the 551 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: valley and came back up through Corpus Christi to San 552 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: Antonio for training camp. But it was because of what 553 00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:25,160 Speaker 1: John was doing that was like, oh that sounds pretty cool, 554 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: and it was you got to see America and he 555 00:35:28,239 --> 00:35:30,839 Speaker 1: did too. Here's another story that Pat told about him. 556 00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: You know how they became the voices of the Madden 557 00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:38,799 Speaker 1: video game. Okay, they so when the video game first 558 00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:43,560 Speaker 1: came out, they came to Pat and John and wanted 559 00:35:43,600 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: them to be the voices. And then they so they 560 00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:49,839 Speaker 1: started talking compensation, and so they had a choice. They 561 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,480 Speaker 1: could Pat, you could you can will pay you a 562 00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:57,520 Speaker 1: fee for it, or we won't pay you a fee, 563 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: but you get royalties, right, okay for the game. And 564 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,279 Speaker 1: so Pat took the fee. No, okay, yeah, he pay 565 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:08,200 Speaker 1: me the X amount of dollars. I'll do it, Okay. 566 00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 1: Madden didn't want the fee, he just wanted the royalties. 567 00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:15,640 Speaker 1: Oh my, you know that town Pleasanton, California, right, The 568 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: Madden family basically owns all the real estate and it's 569 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,359 Speaker 1: a it's a very nice area there by Oakland there 570 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: in the Bay area all the Madden family. Basically they 571 00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,799 Speaker 1: own all that land out there. And by the way, 572 00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: that's since been developed in the documentary. And this is 573 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: kind of spoiler alert here, but when you were talking 574 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:40,360 Speaker 1: about Thanksgiving, obviously there was a section on the tre Ducan. 575 00:36:41,560 --> 00:36:44,520 Speaker 1: They interviewed the guy who came up with the idea 576 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: for the or initially made him for John, and Nate 577 00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:52,160 Speaker 1: Newton was part of it. They showed the boys in 578 00:36:52,239 --> 00:36:56,200 Speaker 1: their Turkey lad and he always credits John Madden for 579 00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 1: getting him in the Pro Bowl. That you know, John 580 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,880 Speaker 1: was the one that kind of noted him had his 581 00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,880 Speaker 1: name out there, and I also have since Everson couldn't 582 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:09,960 Speaker 1: be here, he said that he wanted to point this out. 583 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: He said, John is mostly known to this generation through 584 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: video games, to the generation before that the premier sports 585 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:23,439 Speaker 1: TV analyst, and to the generation before that championship NFL coach. 586 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: He was the best to do do it in everything 587 00:37:27,200 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 1: he ventured. So Everson wanted to make sure people knew 588 00:37:31,719 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 1: that he also had some things to say about him. 589 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 1: By the way, I've just said a note on my 590 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:42,120 Speaker 1: phone that Bill Belichick apparently spoke roughly seventeen minutes on 591 00:37:42,280 --> 00:37:46,279 Speaker 1: John Madnett his press conference today, Well, he was he 592 00:37:46,440 --> 00:37:49,600 Speaker 1: was a big you know what. It didn't surprise me 593 00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:54,359 Speaker 1: that he was on there in the documentary Bill Parcels 594 00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 1: was on there. Lawrence Taylor. Lawrence Taylor had a lot 595 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,040 Speaker 1: to say about John Madden. It was it was riveting 596 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 1: and part of it at times kind of a tier 597 00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: jerker too. Yeah, I mean it really was to hear 598 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,960 Speaker 1: what people had to say about him. Yea. And again 599 00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: I will tweet out I'll find that eulogy that he 600 00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: gave for a Pat Summer all because you know, if 601 00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:24,160 Speaker 1: I think Pat would probably say the exact same things 602 00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:26,399 Speaker 1: about John Madden that you'll hear in that you talk 603 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,160 Speaker 1: about tier jerkers. It's something that you got to see. 604 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,440 Speaker 1: All right. We will wrap up mixed shots here in 605 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:34,040 Speaker 1: just a moment. The Medal of Honor is our country's 606 00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:37,800 Speaker 1: highest military award for valor in combat. 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Downloaded 644 00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:54,879 Speaker 1: in the app or Google Play stores. All right, last 645 00:40:54,960 --> 00:41:00,120 Speaker 1: few minutes here of mixed shots, and we've got an 646 00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:06,640 Speaker 1: honor for a Cowboys quarterback that happened earlier today. Yes, 647 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: and it's the second time Dak Prescott's been named the 648 00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 1: NFC Offensive Player of the Week. The first time was 649 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: after the New England game, and after this performance it 650 00:41:17,640 --> 00:41:20,800 Speaker 1: was probably not a hard decision. Through for three hundred 651 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: and thirty yards against Washington, four touchdowns, completed, seventy one 652 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:30,160 Speaker 1: point eight percent of his passes, finished with a quarterback 653 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: rating of one thirty one point four. Pretty good performance. 654 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,640 Speaker 1: So he basically won that in one half of play, 655 00:41:37,920 --> 00:41:40,879 Speaker 1: and he because he only completed i think one more 656 00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:43,280 Speaker 1: for nine yards in the second Yeah, for the second 657 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:46,719 Speaker 1: half and then retired. And we don't get to see 658 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,960 Speaker 1: that often with cowboy quarterbacks, by the way, over the 659 00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:52,680 Speaker 1: last several years. Doesn't matter, it just doesn't happen in 660 00:41:52,719 --> 00:41:55,200 Speaker 1: the NFL. So that's five times he's won the Player 661 00:41:55,239 --> 00:41:59,879 Speaker 1: of the Week awards twice this year, okay, Yeah, rather 662 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 1: amazing and kind of tells you the level that he 663 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:07,960 Speaker 1: played at. And they're hoping to continue that against Arizona, which, 664 00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,520 Speaker 1: as we pointed out earlier, it is probably a pretty 665 00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: desperate team right now here, although they've played desperate teams before, right. 666 00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,960 Speaker 1: Washington needed to win and they didn't. The Saints needed 667 00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:23,960 Speaker 1: to win and they didn't. So now I'm thinking Arizona 668 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,000 Speaker 1: might be a little better, better team. Yeah, yeah, So 669 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:30,920 Speaker 1: we'll see what kind of effort they are able to 670 00:42:31,480 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: muster on Sunday afternoon. All right, Gil Brandt all all 671 00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 1: Rookie defensive team and obviously Michael Parsons on it, but 672 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:47,359 Speaker 1: he also at defensive tackle OsO Diggi Zuoa. I like that, Yeah, 673 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:53,000 Speaker 1: And he just basically pointed out how well the rookie played. 674 00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:57,440 Speaker 1: With Neville Gallimore being out. Who would have started at 675 00:42:57,520 --> 00:43:01,920 Speaker 1: that spot? You know, Carl Watkins missed a game or 676 00:43:01,960 --> 00:43:06,160 Speaker 1: two with covid as I remember, and uh, you know, 677 00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: Ohsa probably played a heck of a lot more than 678 00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,960 Speaker 1: he would have had Neville Galler more have been ready 679 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: to start the season. And that's why one of the 680 00:43:14,719 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: things that's going on with this defense now is they 681 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 1: don't have to play Neville Gallim or fifty snaps a game. 682 00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:23,399 Speaker 1: He can get in thirty and this guy gets twenty five. 683 00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:28,480 Speaker 1: And the rotation that dan Quinn has going is rather 684 00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: remarkable at this time. And then you get everybody else healthy. 685 00:43:32,480 --> 00:43:36,080 Speaker 1: With DeMarcus Lawrence coming in, Randy Gregory, we knew what 686 00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,880 Speaker 1: he could do once he got back. Yeah, that front 687 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 1: has been pretty potent. Also knowing that Dorence Armstrong got 688 00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,400 Speaker 1: to play a heck of a lot more than expected 689 00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 1: because of Lawrence's injury, they exposed Parsons to various positions. 690 00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:59,040 Speaker 1: So yeah, this will be a good test though for 691 00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:01,960 Speaker 1: the defense because Kyler Murray's one of those quarterbacks that 692 00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:06,680 Speaker 1: he will extend the play, he will create plays, and 693 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:10,000 Speaker 1: as Bill pointed out from the game last year, he 694 00:44:10,120 --> 00:44:12,759 Speaker 1: will throw one up that's a fifty fifty ball and 695 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:17,240 Speaker 1: sometimes he completes it, and that's trouble for the defense. 696 00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:22,000 Speaker 1: You know, back on Odgazoa, this is now two straight 697 00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:25,720 Speaker 1: years that the Cowboys in the third round have taken 698 00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 1: a defensive tackle who when you look at him, where 699 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:33,120 Speaker 1: they are right now, dig Azoa at the end of 700 00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:37,320 Speaker 1: his rookie season. Neville Gallimore. Of course you had to 701 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,960 Speaker 1: overcome the injury, but the level of play that he's 702 00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:43,000 Speaker 1: at here in his second year that they've taken a 703 00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:46,040 Speaker 1: third round pick that probably should have been a higher 704 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,279 Speaker 1: draft pick. Yeah, you know, if there was, if there 705 00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:53,000 Speaker 1: was an All second year team. Now, I understand Gallimore 706 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: hasn't played enough snaps this year, played in enough games 707 00:44:55,760 --> 00:44:57,640 Speaker 1: to make that team, But if you just went on 708 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:02,360 Speaker 1: football playing ability, I'd put Gallimore and Diggs on a 709 00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,320 Speaker 1: second year All All second Yeah, and and Gallimore missed 710 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,600 Speaker 1: almost the entire season, right this year, but you see 711 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: how good he is. And then because of some other injuries, 712 00:45:16,560 --> 00:45:21,480 Speaker 1: their other third round pick, Chauncey Golston, got an opportunity. Uh, 713 00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:25,279 Speaker 1: and you know he's starting to play well at at 714 00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,880 Speaker 1: defensive end. Look look at how well this team has 715 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:34,120 Speaker 1: drafted the last two years with Ceedee Lamb, Treyvon Diggs 716 00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:37,600 Speaker 1: and Neville Gallimore last year in the first three rounds 717 00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:42,800 Speaker 1: and this year with Michael Parsons in the first round. Obviously, 718 00:45:43,480 --> 00:45:46,840 Speaker 1: and uh and obviously the way O Digazoo has come on. 719 00:45:47,040 --> 00:45:49,960 Speaker 1: Now we'll see what happens with Kelvin Joseph. It's you know, 720 00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:52,480 Speaker 1: he's more of a project, but it was got an 721 00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 1: opportunity the other night. It was encouraging. Yeah, and then 722 00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:59,200 Speaker 1: Chauncy right and Sean Wright was the other third rounder 723 00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:01,440 Speaker 1: and he's a probably and he's a project, but he's 724 00:46:01,480 --> 00:46:03,480 Speaker 1: been Josh Ball in the fourth round is you know, 725 00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:07,520 Speaker 1: and who by the way, is practicing, so he's he's 726 00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: on that. He's the other guy that's on the twenty 727 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,880 Speaker 1: one day our return. Okay, we're out of time already. 728 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,479 Speaker 1: One thing for tomorrow. We were going to do today, 729 00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: but since Everson wasn't here. Our little zoom interview that 730 00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:25,400 Speaker 1: we did that aired on CBS eleven last night, Everson 731 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:30,400 Speaker 1: talking with Trayvon Diggs. We're gonna rear that tomorrow on 732 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,360 Speaker 1: the show. And we and I turned into what Everson 733 00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,360 Speaker 1: had to say the other day on Mick Shots about 734 00:46:39,600 --> 00:46:44,120 Speaker 1: Diggs in his excitement for the kid. On Dallas Cowboys 735 00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,640 Speaker 1: dot Com. There's a story about what Everson had to say. 736 00:46:47,680 --> 00:46:49,840 Speaker 1: In case you didn't hear it, you can read it 737 00:46:50,040 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 1: all right. So that does it from Mick Shots for 738 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 1: a Wednesday, and we will talk at you again tomorrow 739 00:46:55,520 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: at one thirty goal Cowboys. This has been a production 740 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:05,640 Speaker 1: of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.