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Is the Drive 0:00:37.680 --> 0:00:41.720 with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson on your home of 0:00:41.800 --> 0:00:48.000 the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. 0:00:48.040 --> 0:00:51.040 I am Dale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. Is the 0:00:51.200 --> 0:00:57.400 Monday after the Draft? Yeah, you know the Pittsburgh Marathon 0:00:58.000 --> 0:01:00.920 was run on Sunday. Sure was there. The real Pittsburgh 0:01:01.000 --> 0:01:04.440 Marathon was you and I on the early Saturday. But 0:01:04.480 --> 0:01:07.360 the whole Draft Saturday was a marathon. Saturday was a marathon. 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:12.160 The stretch before the Hayward pick was like a deserted 0:01:12.200 --> 0:01:15.040 island there for a while of radio trying to find 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:16.760 stuff to talk about. But no, it was fun. We 0:01:16.800 --> 0:01:20.000 had I saw Stan when we were here and that 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:23.039 was awesome. And we had Alan Fannica coach Bradley. I mean, 0:01:23.080 --> 0:01:25.280 we had a lot of people contributing over the weekend too, 0:01:25.360 --> 0:01:27.800 which broke it up well. And his great scene everyone too, 0:01:27.800 --> 0:01:29.520 and actually being in a facility, it was. It was 0:01:29.600 --> 0:01:33.160 fantastic being in the facility. Of course. The Steelers making 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:36.920 seven draft picks, uh. They added Kenny Pickett in the 0:01:36.959 --> 0:01:40.200 first round, the quarterback out of pitt George Pickens in 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.280 the second round, the wide receiver out of Georgia, to 0:01:43.400 --> 0:01:46.120 Marvin Leel out of Texas, A and M on the 0:01:46.160 --> 0:01:49.840 defensive line. Then in the fourth round they added Kelvin 0:01:49.920 --> 0:01:52.840 austin the third I don't know as he was. He 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:56.840 is a third out of Memphis, a wide receiver, Connor 0:01:56.880 --> 0:02:00.960 Hayward in round six fullback slash, tight end slash whatever 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:04.800 you want to utility knife out of Michigan State. And 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:08.919 then in the seventh round linebacker Mark Robinson of Ole 0:02:09.000 --> 0:02:13.320 Miss and Chris a lot of Cone quarterback out of 0:02:13.320 --> 0:02:17.480 South Dakota State will go down in history as the 0:02:17.520 --> 0:02:23.760 final pick. So it started with Tlexico Burrus and two thousand, 0:02:23.840 --> 0:02:26.600 it ends with Chris. A lot of con there you go. 0:02:27.120 --> 0:02:28.920 It was kind of an odd selection and we're not 0:02:28.919 --> 0:02:31.040 gonna spend much time on the seventh rounders, I'm sure, 0:02:31.120 --> 0:02:33.280 but um, they must have liked him enough to bring 0:02:33.360 --> 0:02:34.920 him to camp and didn't want to compete with the 0:02:34.919 --> 0:02:37.760 rest of the world for him, so um um. And 0:02:38.320 --> 0:02:41.400 speaking to Kevin, I mean, his press conference was pretty awesome, 0:02:41.400 --> 0:02:47.079 too emotional, and you know he was uh rightfully honored 0:02:47.400 --> 0:02:49.800 and talked about it. He was an amazing person and 0:02:49.919 --> 0:02:53.880 contributor to the team and team builder. Yeah. After the draft, 0:02:53.960 --> 0:02:58.360 the Steelers signed ten undrafted free agents as well. That 0:02:58.400 --> 0:03:02.760 would be offensive tackle Jake Dixon of Duquesne. I believe 0:03:02.760 --> 0:03:07.160 he's a Bethel Park kid. Running back Mateo Durant out 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:12.400 of Duke, defensive lineman Donovan Jeter of Michigan, outside linebacker 0:03:12.440 --> 0:03:15.280 Tyree Johnson of Texas A and M. There's a school again. 0:03:15.960 --> 0:03:21.280 He's got a little juice to him. Outside linebacker t 0:03:21.440 --> 0:03:27.760 Day T. D. Moultrie of Auburn, guard Chris Owens from Alabama, Um, 0:03:27.960 --> 0:03:33.040 cornerback Chris Steele out of usc UM, offensive tackle Jordan 0:03:33.120 --> 0:03:37.240 Tucker from North Carolina, running back Jalen Warren from Oklahoma State, 0:03:37.600 --> 0:03:42.040 and cornerback Bryce Watts out of you Massa. So I mean, 0:03:42.040 --> 0:03:44.920 one of those names will make the team, you know, 0:03:45.280 --> 0:03:47.320 don't forget about them. I don't know much about them yet, 0:03:47.320 --> 0:03:49.400 and I'm thinking about the camp, but you know, I 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:51.240 know one of the things and the ones will jump 0:03:51.240 --> 0:03:53.800 into this. People looked at Um, they didn't had any 0:03:53.800 --> 0:04:00.400 offensive lineman. If you start running the numbers on, it's 0:04:00.400 --> 0:04:03.400 a pretty four. They've got nine guys, and actually more 0:04:03.440 --> 0:04:05.440 than that with NFL experience when you add in like 0:04:05.520 --> 0:04:09.680 a uh, Chaz Green and guys like that, guys who 0:04:09.680 --> 0:04:12.240 have started NFL games. They've got like twelve of them 0:04:12.240 --> 0:04:14.840 in a dozen or so. Yeah, and probably ten roster 0:04:14.920 --> 0:04:18.520 spots at most, maybe nine if you know, if if 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:21.240 he keeps seventh, if you keep seven defensive lineman, then 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.760 you probably only keep nine offensive lineman. Or if you 0:04:23.880 --> 0:04:26.719 keep you know, I mean, they're gonna keep at least 0:04:26.760 --> 0:04:30.200 five receivers and probably six if you start looking at 0:04:30.200 --> 0:04:32.560 those numbers. I actually broke things. I think about the 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:34.960 Haywards of roster spot that they don't usually have to 0:04:35.200 --> 0:04:38.240 like a utility guy or so. I haven't thought about 0:04:38.240 --> 0:04:40.200 the roster construction that much yet, and we got a 0:04:40.240 --> 0:04:43.320 lot of time to break down the final roster. But still, 0:04:43.320 --> 0:04:45.200 that's that's interesting. They don't have a lot of old 0:04:45.240 --> 0:04:47.920 line spots of it, right, so, you know, if so, 0:04:48.080 --> 0:04:51.120 that's when when people talked about, well they wasted a 0:04:51.120 --> 0:04:54.440 pick in the seventh round on an offense on a quarterback, 0:04:54.480 --> 0:04:56.159 they should have just taken an offensive line in there. 0:04:56.760 --> 0:05:02.799 Guys probably not gonna make your roster. Yeah, I feel 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:05.760 more and more that the league cares very little about 0:05:05.760 --> 0:05:08.360 the seventh round anymore. And I don't know if that's 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:12.480 just a perception thing, but lots of punters and kickers, 0:05:12.520 --> 0:05:16.120 and I think it's an analytically driven an approach. The 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.720 people look at the seventh round and like, these guys 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:23.200 never make thee right, you know, make an NFL career 0:05:23.320 --> 0:05:26.400 like right, I mean some of these teams that made 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.599 a lot of moves and trades. I mean, like the 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:30.599 Jets are done picking in the fourth round, you know, 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.680 I mean they got they dumped this. We've seen that 0:05:32.720 --> 0:05:35.920 in recent years as well. That those veteran guys. You know, 0:05:35.960 --> 0:05:37.720 if you're gonna trade for a veteran, it's a fifth 0:05:37.800 --> 0:05:41.080 round pick, like or sixth round pick or seventh round pick. 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:43.839 To your point about the instead of fighting the open 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:46.799 market when they get cut type of deal, and there's 0:05:46.800 --> 0:05:50.400 a saying out there that there's no number of seventh 0:05:50.520 --> 0:05:53.240 round picks equals the first round pick, you know what 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:55.680 I mean, Like they don't just that they're not all 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.839 a penny and they end up eating equal in a dollar. 0:05:57.920 --> 0:06:01.040 They just don't. Yeah, you could will trade you our 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.520 next ten seventh round all, yeah, to a first round pick. No, 0:06:04.520 --> 0:06:08.080 nobody's gonna do that. Um, you're not taking volume over quality, 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:12.440 right right, right? So I think really the the your 0:06:12.520 --> 0:06:14.360 draft is made by what you do at the top 0:06:14.400 --> 0:06:16.719 of it. Yeah, it's nice if a fifth rounder hits 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:20.320 or absolutely, they seldom become stars, right, fifth rounders hit 0:06:20.320 --> 0:06:22.880 here and there. Seventh rounders, I mean don't even make 0:06:22.920 --> 0:06:26.360 teams anymore. So. Yeah, anyway, the two positions the Steelers 0:06:26.400 --> 0:06:29.760 didn't the two things that they didn't do. They didn't 0:06:29.760 --> 0:06:33.480 get a running back and they didn't get line. They 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:36.640 didn't get a true nose tackle. No, you know, I 0:06:36.640 --> 0:06:40.640 think you know, that tells me he they trusted Tyson 0:06:40.680 --> 0:06:44.080 and Lulu is going to be ready to go. And 0:06:44.520 --> 0:06:46.520 you know the fact that they didn't address a defensive 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.800 line until round three tells me they failed stuff on two. 0:06:49.839 --> 0:06:51.960 It is coming back as well. Yeah, or in free 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.160 agency up until this point, yeah, I mean, they didn't 0:06:54.160 --> 0:06:57.840 spend money on a guy. So yeah, I think now 0:06:57.960 --> 0:07:01.680 have seven defensive lineman that they are excited about, including 0:07:01.680 --> 0:07:03.960 louder Milk and Warmly and those guys. I mean, they 0:07:04.320 --> 0:07:06.800 all improved last year. Those two improved last year as 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.920 well as Adams. If your second line, your second hockey 0:07:09.920 --> 0:07:14.480 line is Adams, louder Milk, Warmly, I'll take that. You know, 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.920 I mean that those aren't starters, but they're your your 0:07:17.080 --> 0:07:21.280 your second line guys. And you and I talked about 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:24.400 nose tackles, particularly Jones, and everyone talked about Jordan Davis. 0:07:24.440 --> 0:07:29.000 Of course, I don't know that that's a priority for them. Yeah, 0:07:29.080 --> 0:07:31.320 I mean, there's other ways to stop the run, folks, 0:07:31.360 --> 0:07:34.160 There's other ways to play defense than putting three or 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.000 fifty pound guys out there. I'm sure they liked Jones, 0:07:37.040 --> 0:07:39.680 I'm sure they like Davis because they can run. But 0:07:39.800 --> 0:07:42.560 they didn't just grab a hog just stick in the 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.640 middle of the line, you know. I mean the league 0:07:44.640 --> 0:07:47.080 has changed, it really has. And if you look at 0:07:47.080 --> 0:07:51.120 the last one that they drafted, it was Javon Hargrave 0:07:50.680 --> 0:07:53.040 and he's a different kind of you know, he's a 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:55.600 pendant rating up the field. How many did he have 0:07:55.640 --> 0:07:59.760 in college to like a million? Yeah, that's and did 0:07:59.760 --> 0:08:02.200 so again last year with the Eagles and got paid big. 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:05.440 I mean, those guys are coveted. But um, who was 0:08:05.480 --> 0:08:07.320 the dude from Baylor a couple of years ago that 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:10.120 the Billings you know, the big power guy, power lifter, 0:08:10.280 --> 0:08:13.080 but also the fourth round picker down? Where's yet? You know? 0:08:13.480 --> 0:08:16.880 So let's talk about Kenny Pickens. Pick good, Pikett. I 0:08:16.920 --> 0:08:19.200 did that again. I'm you know why, I'm looking here 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.440 at George Pickens name and I'm saying I've said this 0:08:22.440 --> 0:08:25.000 a couple of times over the weekend, Billy and Wolf 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:27.400 with picks and pickens And how many times I say 0:08:27.400 --> 0:08:29.400 the word pick in the last three days? All the 0:08:29.440 --> 0:08:31.840 next pick? And then I hope Kenny Pickett doesn't throw 0:08:31.920 --> 0:08:34.199 too many picks when he's targeting Pickens, you know, like 0:08:34.280 --> 0:08:37.800 it's it's good stuff though it makes me chuckle. Now, 0:08:38.160 --> 0:08:40.079 you know, we were both I'm not gonna not gonna 0:08:40.520 --> 0:08:43.080 fudge just we were both on the Hey draft, Malik 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:47.840 Willis for the upside um. They know more than we do. 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:49.640 That they know more than they know more about their 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.880 roster than we do as well, they know way more 0:08:51.880 --> 0:08:54.240 about the players in particular, which is a knock on Willis. 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.520 And I'm look, people have already been saying, well, the 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:02.679 league didn't like this this draft class very much. Malik 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:05.840 Willis was invited to the draft to sit in the 0:09:05.840 --> 0:09:09.920 green room. They do that based off what NFL teams 0:09:09.920 --> 0:09:12.880 are telling them. They don't just they don't pull Keiper's board. 0:09:13.120 --> 0:09:16.280 They're not. They're not inviting Mark Robinson to sit in 0:09:16.320 --> 0:09:19.880 the in the green room. Any invite guys who they believe, 0:09:20.120 --> 0:09:24.320 based on the people they're talking to, are going to 0:09:24.360 --> 0:09:25.760 go in the first round. I don't want four kids 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:28.080 sitting there. Yeah, they don't want you know, a day four, 0:09:28.160 --> 0:09:30.439 a Day three guy going sitting in that room for 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:33.920 four rounds. They want someone a valid chance to go 0:09:33.960 --> 0:09:36.440 in the first round. And he didn't know, he didn't. 0:09:37.360 --> 0:09:39.679 That doesn't mean that he can't play or whatever. But 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.360 the Steelers valued Kenny Pickett. Now, I've also heard the argument, well, 0:09:43.360 --> 0:09:45.320 they could have waited and taken him in the second round. 0:09:46.000 --> 0:09:49.000 You don't know that, Yeah, I don't know that. People say, well, 0:09:49.040 --> 0:09:50.800 if the Steelers hadn't taken him in the first round, 0:09:50.840 --> 0:09:53.240 there have been no quarterbacks in the first round. That's 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:58.559 not true either. Somebody would have taken Kenny, whether it 0:09:58.600 --> 0:10:00.760 was Kenny Picket or some he would have made that 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.520 first move at that quarterback, whether it be a team 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.680 trading back into the first round, whether it be the 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:09.319 Tennessee Titans, whoever may may have been, would have made 0:10:09.559 --> 0:10:11.480 you know, made that pick in this in that first round. 0:10:11.520 --> 0:10:13.439 There would have been a quarterback in the first round. 0:10:13.480 --> 0:10:15.719 I think so. I mean, I think you could look 0:10:15.760 --> 0:10:18.360 at in a negative light and say, boy, they could 0:10:18.360 --> 0:10:20.800 have waited for the second round. And obviously this is 0:10:20.880 --> 0:10:23.800 Monday morning quarterbacking. They could have got Willis later, they 0:10:23.800 --> 0:10:26.000 could have got ridd or later whoever. And that's true. 0:10:26.040 --> 0:10:28.480 We know that to be true. Now. Yeah, and I 0:10:28.520 --> 0:10:30.600 do think it is safe to say the league didn't 0:10:30.640 --> 0:10:33.960 like this quarterback class as much as other years, or 0:10:34.000 --> 0:10:38.320 maybe as much as some mock draft told us the 0:10:38.360 --> 0:10:41.480 teams had already made all their quarterback moves. There's been 0:10:42.280 --> 0:10:44.920 The Steelers even made a quarterback move in the in 0:10:44.960 --> 0:10:48.880 the you know, in the free agency. They didn't an 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.600 adventure and it's waiting. Hi. This is Merril Hodge at 0:10:51.679 --> 0:10:54.000 S ANDT Bank. They know lives for the living. That's 0:10:54.000 --> 0:10:56.200 why S and T Bank offers solutions to help you 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.120 get the most out of it, whether you're investing in 0:10:58.160 --> 0:11:00.640 your home, planning for the future, or just making the 0:11:00.720 --> 0:11:02.960 most of every day. St D Bank is here to 0:11:03.000 --> 0:11:05.400 help learn how S ANDT Bank can help you live 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.400 the life you want at st bank dot com member 0:11:08.440 --> 0:11:10.280 f D I C. S and D Bank was ranked 0:11:10.320 --> 0:11:13.840 number one in customer satisfaction with retail banking and Pennsylvania 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:16.920 by j D Power for JD Power two Award Information 0:11:17.040 --> 0:11:21.640 visit JD power dot com Slash Awards. Need to draft 0:11:21.720 --> 0:11:24.920 Kenny Pickett right, they wanted to draft Kenny Picket. There's 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:28.360 a huge difference there. And we don't know if Pickett 0:11:28.360 --> 0:11:30.720 was their twentieth guy on the board or their fifth. 0:11:30.840 --> 0:11:33.439 You know, we that sounds stuff we don't know, will 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:37.240 never know. We also don't know did the league look 0:11:37.280 --> 0:11:40.840 at piket Gap the rest of them. You know, we'll 0:11:40.840 --> 0:11:44.320 never know that, you know, the Steelers apparently, and we 0:11:44.360 --> 0:11:47.160 also don't know this. If Pickett would have went at nineteen, 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.719 maybe they would have taken Willis. You know what I mean? 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:54.080 They still best player or eighteenth best players. So the 0:11:54.120 --> 0:11:59.000 way it worked out, it doesn't the optics don't look fantastic, 0:11:59.080 --> 0:12:01.560 you know, like, boy, this class isn't any good. I 0:12:01.600 --> 0:12:03.880 don't see it that way, you know. I look at 0:12:03.880 --> 0:12:07.280 it and think, I bet Ritter starting in Atlanta by 0:12:07.360 --> 0:12:10.839 week eight at some point of seasonally will start games 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:14.160 for the Atlanta Feli. I bet korl starts in in Carolina. 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:16.600 Even wouldn't shock me if we see Sam how a 0:12:16.600 --> 0:12:19.880 fifth round pick in Washington at some point and Willis, 0:12:20.000 --> 0:12:22.280 I think it's an awesome location for him. I know 0:12:22.360 --> 0:12:25.040 we're talking Steelers here, but those guys should look at 0:12:25.120 --> 0:12:28.800 Davis Mills and say, I need to do that. I 0:12:28.880 --> 0:12:32.040 need to convince this team that I'm on now not 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.520 to use next or year's first round pick. So much 0:12:34.600 --> 0:12:36.679 less pressure too, And there's so much less pressure, right, 0:12:36.760 --> 0:12:39.160 and then you added a first round pick. Oh, there's 0:12:39.200 --> 0:12:42.440 Drake London. That makes my life easier. So I don't know, 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.960 but I understand the picket A great picket, pick a 0:12:46.040 --> 0:12:49.760 great deal. I mean, there's a lot of logic behind it. Yeah. 0:12:49.800 --> 0:12:54.400 The other part of the equation is that the Steelers 0:12:54.440 --> 0:12:58.640 took a guy. They went for the guy who they 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:01.760 know is is a clear duble over the guy who 0:13:01.800 --> 0:13:04.040 could be a home runner, could be a strike up. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:07.480 They didn't want Dave Kingman to use your analogy last week. 0:13:07.679 --> 0:13:09.920 They wanted the guy who's going to hit the do 0:13:10.080 --> 0:13:12.360 they want to Barry Bonds, Early Berry Bonds who hit 0:13:12.400 --> 0:13:15.600 doubles and everyone first base and we'll go from there, 0:13:15.640 --> 0:13:18.400 you know, and see what happens. Maybe maybe he scores 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.240 a run or not. But it's there's no outce that 0:13:21.320 --> 0:13:22.960 I gotta my number two hit her up, and I 0:13:22.960 --> 0:13:24.800 got a guy in first that can maybe steal second, 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.760 you know, go from there. But the comps on the 0:13:26.800 --> 0:13:29.679 comps on picking or picket, I'm gonna do this again, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:34.000 and the comps on picket, we're Kirk Cousins or you know, 0:13:34.040 --> 0:13:39.600 some whatever, middle of the road starter. But starters average, 0:13:39.640 --> 0:13:42.520 they were better than that average to above average starters. 0:13:42.640 --> 0:13:45.480 You want to compare him to um I don't know 0:13:45.559 --> 0:13:49.480 that he's People talk about his ceiling, Well, he's he's 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:51.800 already as good as he's going to get. That's absolutely 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:54.679 not true. No, that's not really how sports work or 0:13:55.559 --> 0:13:58.800 scoring to continue to evolve as a player, we like 0:13:58.840 --> 0:14:01.160 to get. We know this is what he is. He 0:14:01.160 --> 0:14:04.280 can only you know, he's got a low ceiling. And 0:14:04.520 --> 0:14:06.400 the people that loved them thought, boy, there's a lot 0:14:06.400 --> 0:14:09.520 of Joe Burrow here. Yeah. I mean, I'm not saying 0:14:09.559 --> 0:14:11.800 we could Joe Burrows. I mean I'd rather Burrow, don't 0:14:11.800 --> 0:14:14.280 get me wrong, But to say that his story is 0:14:14.320 --> 0:14:16.800 written and the best he's a double I think it's 0:14:16.800 --> 0:14:19.000 a little unfair, especially if you put him in a 0:14:19.040 --> 0:14:21.400 good situation. I say it's a million times when I'm 0:14:21.400 --> 0:14:24.720 evaluating quarterbacks. Once they land, I almost care about where 0:14:24.720 --> 0:14:27.200 they land more than I care about the player themselves. Absolutely, 0:14:27.360 --> 0:14:29.880 and absolutely they're gonna be able to put stuff around him. 0:14:29.960 --> 0:14:35.120 He should succeed here unless Trabinsky is better, right, which 0:14:35.160 --> 0:14:37.760 is very possible too, And then you're in a good situation. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:40.400 I know, people, well, that's you know, what if what 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:44.760 if Trabinsky hits Okay, that's wonderful, that's great. I mean, 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:47.040 you could trade pick it. He could be a lifetime 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.000 back up. You know, if you've got you've got five 0:14:50.120 --> 0:14:55.840 years of cost controlled quarterbacking. Here. If Trabinsky hits, you've 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:59.320 got him for two years of cost control. You can 0:14:59.480 --> 0:15:02.920 extend him. Because you're not paying you're not paying picket anything. 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.280 You could franchise them. You can franchise tag him and 0:15:05.280 --> 0:15:08.040 then oh, after year three pickets ready to go. Oh, 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:11.360 people are calling you. Hey, you know, I mean, you're 0:15:11.360 --> 0:15:14.080 trading one of your guys. We'll listen. Yeah, right, So 0:15:14.240 --> 0:15:16.440 having too many quarterbacks isn't a bad thing, and you 0:15:16.600 --> 0:15:20.160 got them all relatively cheap, which allows you to do 0:15:20.320 --> 0:15:24.160 things like you know, we've seen We saw a j. 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:26.960 Brown traded over the weekend. We saw Marquise Brown traded 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.800 over the weekend. Apparently, if your name last name is 0:15:28.800 --> 0:15:31.080 Brown is a wide receiver, you're on your way out. 0:15:32.120 --> 0:15:35.720 The teams that that aren't paying the wide receivers are 0:15:35.720 --> 0:15:38.520 the teams that have established quarterbacks. For the most part. 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.680 For the most part, we're paying, I should say, paying 0:15:40.680 --> 0:15:43.520 their quarterback a decent amount of money. The raiders and 0:15:43.560 --> 0:15:46.560 bills are kind of exceptions, But I think that that's 0:15:46.600 --> 0:15:49.960 the trend that's really developed. But they're the Bills made 0:15:49.960 --> 0:15:53.080 the trade for stuff on digs before they were paying 0:15:53.280 --> 0:15:55.480 Josh Allen. I know, but they just reupped them, right. 0:15:55.840 --> 0:15:59.360 But you know, but your points valid if you're at 0:15:59.360 --> 0:16:03.600 my homes or Rodgers, sorry, you don't get you want 0:16:03.600 --> 0:16:06.120 to make fifty million dollars, you better make these receivers 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:08.720 into something after. Rodgers can complain about it as much 0:16:08.720 --> 0:16:10.600 as he wants. He's not complaining about it when he's 0:16:10.600 --> 0:16:12.400 cashing the checks. And you know what happened with those 0:16:12.400 --> 0:16:14.640 two teams and what they think about it. They mostly 0:16:14.680 --> 0:16:17.880 drafted defense, Yeah, I mean both the Packers first round 0:16:17.880 --> 0:16:20.600 picks were defense. Almost everything Kansas City did except for 0:16:20.600 --> 0:16:23.240 sky More, was defense. I mean, Pat, you're in charge 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.160 of the offense. You make this thing go. You know, 0:16:25.440 --> 0:16:27.320 the Packers went up and got Christian Watson in the 0:16:27.320 --> 0:16:30.440 second round, right, right, I mean they both You get 0:16:30.440 --> 0:16:32.400 a second round wide receiver. You don't get a first 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.200 round wide receiver because you're making fifty million dollars and 0:16:35.200 --> 0:16:38.160 you don't get twenty five million dollar Witers. You certainly 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.680 don't get that, right, But you know who gets a 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:47.520 nice receiver? Jalen heard to, you know, first round, second 0:16:47.640 --> 0:16:51.000 round guys that need help. So your point I assume 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:55.320 is if by chance DK Metcalf becomes available and the 0:16:55.320 --> 0:16:58.240 Steelers want him next year, they could get him, or 0:17:00.040 --> 0:17:02.560 we're do do those things you can afford to build, 0:17:02.680 --> 0:17:06.280 continue building that nest. You can afford to spend money 0:17:06.280 --> 0:17:08.600 on a cornerback, or spend money on you know you can. 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.639 You can pay t J. Wat To and make him 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.040 the highest paid defensive player. Will never lose somebody you 0:17:13.080 --> 0:17:14.840 want to keep from your own team. You'll know that 0:17:14.840 --> 0:17:17.760 will never keep Jvan Hardgrave if you wanted to do Filer, 0:17:17.800 --> 0:17:19.639 I think would be a Steeler right now, and Hardgrave 0:17:19.640 --> 0:17:21.159 would be a Steeler and you know we wouldn't be 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:23.800 talking about there's no nostackle here. You know, the Steelers 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.280 haven't been in this situation in a very long time. Right. 0:17:26.440 --> 0:17:29.760 It's almost like they've gotten a reset on their salary cap. Absolutely, 0:17:29.920 --> 0:17:32.000 It's not like they'll spend foolishly, I don't think. I mean, 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:34.320 I think they're very wise with where they spend their money. 0:17:34.359 --> 0:17:36.400 They're not gonna be the Jags just buying things left 0:17:36.400 --> 0:17:39.399 and right. But they're gonna have the ability to do 0:17:40.240 --> 0:17:43.080 to fix a team in more ways than the draft. Correct, 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:45.240 you can fill in the holes they I mean they 0:17:45.320 --> 0:17:49.560 did it if you look at it early into two thousand's, Um, 0:17:49.680 --> 0:17:51.399 you know they were they were you know they were 0:17:51.440 --> 0:17:54.280 able to sign James Ferrier. They're gonna go get you 0:17:54.320 --> 0:17:57.359 have hardings, trading for Bettest and things like that, things 0:17:57.400 --> 0:17:59.840 like that, you know, Okay, we need a guy, Well 0:17:59.840 --> 0:18:02.080 we can go get one, you know, and when you're 0:18:02.080 --> 0:18:05.119 paying Ben Roethlisberger, now you get okay, we gotta go 0:18:05.160 --> 0:18:08.800 spend uh sign these bargain basement guys and hope they 0:18:08.840 --> 0:18:11.080 hit or this third round pick needs to be a 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.120 starter for us. You know that's hard on coaches. That's 0:18:13.119 --> 0:18:16.479 a tough way to live. So you can you know, 0:18:16.520 --> 0:18:20.240 this this works, this gives this could be something that 0:18:20.240 --> 0:18:22.720 that works for the Steelers. Um, you know they're they're 0:18:22.880 --> 0:18:29.040 essentially by taking by signing for Bisky and then taking Picket, 0:18:29.480 --> 0:18:31.240 you're taking two bites out of the apples. One of 0:18:31.280 --> 0:18:33.359 these guys is going to be your starting quarterback. And 0:18:33.400 --> 0:18:35.800 I still think Rudolph is somebody they know and like, 0:18:36.160 --> 0:18:38.960 you know, like they don't think he's the answer, that's clear, 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:40.960 but he's in the mix and you can get you 0:18:41.000 --> 0:18:43.480 out of a game or whatever. Right, you took two 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:50.080 big swings that weren't risky. That's the thing. The first 0:18:50.160 --> 0:18:53.920 round piss pick is not much to risk overall pick 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:57.800 trading several picks, they'll get that quarterback. That's where you 0:18:57.800 --> 0:18:59.760 you know, trade lance has to hit, you know what 0:18:59.760 --> 0:19:02.639 I mean? If pick it doesn't hit, if he's a 0:19:02.720 --> 0:19:06.320 terrible player, it doesn't set the organization in the draft 0:19:06.800 --> 0:19:08.960 a second draft one next year. Yeah, I mean, it 0:19:09.000 --> 0:19:11.240 doesn't set you back at all if he's terrible, which 0:19:11.240 --> 0:19:13.240 I don't think any of the thinks he is, you know. 0:19:13.359 --> 0:19:17.520 I mean so I very much understand it. And I 0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.359 don't know this for a fact, but I bet the tiebreaker, 0:19:20.400 --> 0:19:22.879 if there ever is one, it was just all the 0:19:22.960 --> 0:19:26.520 knowledge you have about pick it is rare, you know. 0:19:26.680 --> 0:19:29.040 I mean you could go the relationship they have with 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:32.359 all the people next door and you know all do 0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:35.280 you think they may be mentioned to some of their players. Hey, 0:19:35.320 --> 0:19:38.600 when you get a chance, go uh shoot to breathe 0:19:38.600 --> 0:19:40.040 with Pickett. Tell me what you think of them? You know. 0:19:40.880 --> 0:19:45.080 Offensive coordinator right was Mark Whipple, who was Ben Roethlisberger's 0:19:45.119 --> 0:19:48.320 quarterbacks coach. Right in two thousand four and two thousand five. 0:19:48.880 --> 0:19:51.280 You can't know anymore like this is. I had to 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.640 get glowing reviews of Picket without doubt, without a doubt. 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.840 And you trust, you trust who's giving you that information, right, 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:01.320 I've said just a thousand times this week. And scouting 0:20:01.400 --> 0:20:05.440 is really gathering information and interpreting it is the biggest 0:20:05.480 --> 0:20:08.400 portion of it. And you hope your information is really good. 0:20:08.440 --> 0:20:11.160 You know, we did another show recently and you mentioned 0:20:11.200 --> 0:20:14.120 the the A and M connection. Well, I think they 0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:16.199 trust what they're getting out of that building more than 0:20:16.240 --> 0:20:20.639 they do other schools. I mean it shows yeah, absolutely. Um, 0:20:20.720 --> 0:20:23.720 so he's the pick. He's going to get an opportunity 0:20:23.840 --> 0:20:27.399 to compete for the starting job. Malik Willis would not 0:20:27.440 --> 0:20:30.320 have gotten that. And to me, that was the one 0:20:30.880 --> 0:20:34.000 thing that I looked at that was a plus for 0:20:34.040 --> 0:20:38.200 Willis because I I'm willing. I was willing to give 0:20:38.200 --> 0:20:41.359 Trabinsky the opportunity to be the guy this year and 0:20:41.400 --> 0:20:45.160