Speaker 1: Drake making news again to let y'all know, y'all he
Speaker 1: don't like not like us. That's number one. Number two
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. He's a bad brother for a multitude of reasons.
Speaker 1: It could be football, it could be Taylor Swift. You
Speaker 1: don't know what he's gonna say, but you'll find out
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Speaker 1: a lot to get into today because I got my mayor,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey wait and okay, Travis Kelce wait, and I
Speaker 1: got to talk to my brother from another mother, all right,
Speaker 1: who obviously is gearing towards threepeating as a Super Bowl champion.
Speaker 1: Looking forward to talking to him. I think you'll be
Speaker 1: very interested in that conversation he and I are about
Speaker 1: to have, make no mistake about it. But before we
Speaker 1: do any of that, let's get started with some news
Speaker 1: out of the entertainment industry. And it's something that we've
Speaker 1: touched on before. Y'all Drake you know that, brother, He's
Speaker 1: going ahead and filed a lawsuit against his own record company,
Speaker 1: Universal Music Group for Kendrick Lamar's not Like Us. Attorneys
Speaker 1: for Drake say the song, which is aimed at the
Speaker 1: Canadian rapper, is an example of valuing quote corporate greed
Speaker 1: over the safety and well being of its artists end quote.
Speaker 1: Kendrick released Not Like Us last summer after a series
Speaker 1: of disc tracks exchanged between the two artists in the spring.
Speaker 1: On the song, Lamar calls Drake a pedophile and accuses
Speaker 1: him of appropriating black culture. Again. Both artists are under
Speaker 1: Universal Music Group Umbrella. Here's a portion of the claims
Speaker 1: in the suit, written by Drake's attorney. They claim UMG
Speaker 1: quote approved, published, and launched a campaign to create a
Speaker 1: viral hit out of a rap track that was intended
Speaker 1: to convey the specific, unmistakable and false factual allegation that
Speaker 1: Drake is a criminal pedophile and to suggest that the
Speaker 1: public should resort to vigilante justice in response end quote.
Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen, I'm torn, and i want to be
Speaker 1: very very sensitive to this subject because I'm a product
Speaker 1: of the hip hop genre and what have you. I
Speaker 1: grew up in Hollis, Queens, New York City, listening to
Speaker 1: run DMC. They're from Hollis. Jam Master J, the late
Speaker 1: jam Master J. God Rest his soul was great friends
Speaker 1: with my late brother Bezu god Rest his soul LL
Speaker 1: WHOJ grew up five minutes down the block on Farmers Boulevard.
Speaker 1: You know the joh Rules, the fitty sense of the world,
Speaker 1: and others from Queens. So for me, when I bring
Speaker 1: up hip hop culture, my initial response, which hasn't changed
Speaker 1: that much by the way, is go handle your business
Speaker 1: in that studio. See, Drake got sensitive with a lot
Speaker 1: of people when he went after DeMar Deroz and talking
Speaker 1: about you know what. You know he would not go
Speaker 1: for his jersey being hung in the rafters. You know
Speaker 1: when he was put off by Lebron James dancing to
Speaker 1: Drake's music. And you know when DeMar Derozen and Russell
Speaker 1: Westbrook and these brothers were on stage while Kendrick Lamar
Speaker 1: was performing. Not like us. They all from Compton, not Lebron,
Speaker 1: but they from La That's not a crime. So in
Speaker 1: that regard, I thought Drake was tripping. I was up
Speaker 1: the mindset like YO. Handle it in the studio. He
Speaker 1: got today, that don't mean he gonna get you next week.
Speaker 1: And if he got you, he got you. But if
Speaker 1: you got sent better something, the Eclipse not like us.
Speaker 1: Do that because Drake, you that great, you that special?
Speaker 1: What's the problem? Get in the studio and handle it
Speaker 1: like that. You don't handle it in the courtroom. That's
Speaker 1: not how you address contention in the hip hop industry
Speaker 1: when it comes to actual records being made. That's not
Speaker 1: what you do. And I stand on that. I firmly
Speaker 1: believe that Drake should do one or two things. Stand
Speaker 1: down and say he got me, or stand up by
Speaker 1: going in the studio and making another distrack of your
Speaker 1: own and making sure it Eclipse is not like us,
Speaker 1: what are the other I firmly believe that I'm not
Speaker 1: backing down or bound down from that. But I'm gonna
Speaker 1: tell y'all where Drake hits me and my sensitive side.
Speaker 1: Dare I say comes into play when you have to
Speaker 1: move your child and the mother out of elementary school,
Speaker 1: when he's being threatened in school, when the mother and
Speaker 1: the child have to move out of Toronto. According to
Speaker 1: the reports, that's what it says for safety reasons. When
Speaker 1: you've been accused and people think there's validity not just
Speaker 1: you know, lyrical dissection dissection, but literally they're attaching legitimacy
Speaker 1: to allegations and accusations of you being a pedophile. Then
Speaker 1: it gets a little dicey, tou jug I mean Universal
Speaker 1: Music Group. Both of them are under that umbrella. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna look at Universal Music Group and say what
Speaker 1: it was a crime for them trying to profit off
Speaker 1: of you? Hell yeah. They trying to profit off for
Speaker 1: you in any way they can, whether it's through your
Speaker 1: music or somebody else's music about you. The record company.
Speaker 1: Of course, that's what they're gonna do. Cost that's what
Speaker 1: they're gonna do. One could argue they should be a
Speaker 1: bit sensitive to one of their own artists, but in
Speaker 1: their mind, did it compromise your bottom line? They don't
Speaker 1: think so. Did it compromise Kendrick Lamar's bottom line since
Speaker 1: he's under their umbrella as well? Damn sure didn't it?
Speaker 1: Big up, Tim, it's making him a boat load of money.
Speaker 1: That means it's gonna make them a boatload of money.
Speaker 1: And their attitude is they probably were expecting you to
Speaker 1: come back with even more material to go out him
Speaker 1: with and they could make money off of both of y'all.
Speaker 1: That's what they probably were thinking. That ain't what happened,
Speaker 1: because that's not what happened. And when you consider the
Speaker 1: level of sensitivity that's been brought to the equation, because again,
Speaker 1: he was basically accused of being a pedophile appropriate black coach.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear all of that. That's a
Speaker 1: different subject for another day. But being called a pedophile, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's a dad in this universe. Is your own music,
Speaker 1: is your own music company that's promoting this stuff? Okay,
Speaker 1: all right? I understand I'm not as dog a as
Speaker 1: giinst it as I once was, even though I still
Speaker 1: wouldn't do it. I understand where Drake's coming from. I
Speaker 1: just think that ultimately he's defeating the purpose because in
Speaker 1: the end, you're a hip hop artist who's gonna want
Speaker 1: your music to be absorbed by the masses in the
Speaker 1: future because you're far from a finished product, and there's
Speaker 1: gonna be an abundance of people out there that look
Speaker 1: at this as a weak way to come at somebody
Speaker 1: like Kendrick Lamar, who came at you the way that
Speaker 1: he did. They want you to come back the same
Speaker 1: way or bow down to the fact that you got shook.
Speaker 1: That's how people are. I can see both sides of this.
Speaker 1: Before I could only see the one side that this
Speaker 1: looked weak to be using the Lord to come after
Speaker 1: an artist that took it to you in the studio.
Speaker 1: But I get where you're coming from. Now I do
Speaker 1: see it. I still wouldn't do it, but that's me
Speaker 1: a lot of people I know. But I understand why
Speaker 1: Drake could feel differently about this. I do. Coming up,
Speaker 1: he's a three times Super Bowl champion who is arguably
Speaker 1: the greatest tight end in the history of the National
Speaker 1: Football League. Travis Kelcey joins the show as the Chiefs
Speaker 1: attempt to become the first team in NFL history to
Speaker 1: three p and he may have something to say about
Speaker 1: his love life as well. He's Taylor Swift Ride right,
Speaker 1: he might have something to say. He might not. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know. We're about to find out though.
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Speaker 1: look at my picks for Saturday's matchups. First up, Houston
Speaker 1: Texans quarterback CJ. Stroud facing the Kansas City Chiefs more
Speaker 1: or less than two hundred and twenty seven and a
Speaker 1: half passing yards. I'm going to go with more. I'm
Speaker 1: just going to go with more. I believe in Stroud,
Speaker 1: I believe in his abilities. He doesn't have Stefan Diggs,
Speaker 1: he doesn't have Tank Dell, but he can still fling
Speaker 1: that football. Kansas City has been shaky at times. I know,
Speaker 1: Spag Nolan, that defense, getting that you can cause some havoc.
Speaker 1: But for CJ. Stroud, this shouldn't be too big to accomplish.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with more on this one. Next up,
Speaker 1: we've got Chiefs quarterback Patrick Mahomes up against the Houston
Speaker 1: Texans with more or less than two hundred and fifty
Speaker 1: and a half passing yards. For this one, I'm also
Speaker 1: going to go with more. This was shaky, I believe
Speaker 1: it or not, because Houston could get to the quarterback
Speaker 1: and I get that, And I don't think that Kansas
Speaker 1: City has the most stout running game in the world,
Speaker 1: So how the hell are gonna win this game. If
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes ain't throwing the football effectively, I believe he will.
Speaker 1: I believe he's rested, he's healthy. They're all ready to go.
Speaker 1: I think Travis Kelsey's gonna have a big game as well.
Speaker 1: And I think in the end, for Patrick Mahomes to
Speaker 1: chuk up two hundred and fifty plus yards is not
Speaker 1: a big ask. I think he's gonna do that in
Speaker 1: this game at Arrowhead Stadium in Kansas City. Next up,
Speaker 1: we've got Washington Commander's quarterback Jade and Daniels more or
Speaker 1: less than two hundred and thirty four and a half
Speaker 1: passing yards. Have you seen his brother play? I'm going
Speaker 1: with more. How the hell can we use the word
Speaker 1: less associated with Jade and Daniels Less losses? That's about it.
Speaker 1: That's about it, less drop it, that's about it. But
Speaker 1: when it comes to accumulating things that contribute to success
Speaker 1: Jade and Daniels, that word more is apropos. This brother special.
Speaker 1: He's a superstar in the making, make no mistake about it.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with more on this. Finally, Detroit Lions
Speaker 1: quarterback Jared Goff more or less than two hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy and a half passing yards. I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: more on this as well, Ladies and Gentlemen's is the
Speaker 1: number one offense in the NFL, a top two passing
Speaker 1: attack in the NFL. They've got Laporter, they got James
Speaker 1: and Williams, they got a lot of cats. They got
Speaker 1: the kid Gibbs running out of the backfield. Offensively speaking,
Speaker 1: they got a lot of firepower in the Motor City.
Speaker 1: Thirteen dudes on the defensive side of the ball on
Speaker 1: injured reserve, they still blew out the Minnesota Vikans. Okay,
Speaker 1: ran them out of the building. These brothers come to
Speaker 1: bring it. And I think in a game like this, okay,
Speaker 1: with Washington, Washington's gonna do some things right. Jaydon Daniel's
Speaker 1: gonna get off He's not gonna panic in a big moment.
Speaker 1: And I think as a result of that, it's gonna
Speaker 1: call for Detroit to be more than they expected to be.
Speaker 1: And I think they're gonna ros to the occasion. And
Speaker 1: as a result, Jered Golf is gonna rise to the occasion.
Speaker 1: And the word more will fit where this is concerned.
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Speaker 1: Please welcome Prize Picks partner, the one and only Adam Brenneman.
Speaker 1: What's going on, Adam? How are you? You see my
Speaker 1: picks up there? You see my NFL picks up there?
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts? My man?
Speaker 3: What's up?
Speaker 4: Seven?
Speaker 5: I appreciate having me on man. My favorite pick you
Speaker 5: got is that Jayden Daniels more. I mean, Jaden Daniels
Speaker 5: is playing on a whole different level right now.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: The thing that Jayden does is.
Speaker 5: When he can run the football the way he does
Speaker 5: with his legs is it takes that extra defender out
Speaker 5: of the box and then that commander's offense is putting
Speaker 5: him in that second down and short, third down and
Speaker 5: short situation, which you know, yeah, that's where quarterbacks can thrive, man,
Speaker 5: because they got the threat of you can run the football.
Speaker 5: The defense has to play the run and then Jaden's
Speaker 5: able to take off with his legs or throw the
Speaker 5: football down on the field. Man that Cliff Kingsbury Jaden
Speaker 5: Daniels combo is a match made in heaven right now?
Speaker 1: You have any issue with me going with more with CJ.
Speaker 4: Stroud, No, I like it. I like it.
Speaker 5: I mean I The only one I'm a little nervous
Speaker 5: about is the Patrick Mahomes play on More. I mean
Speaker 5: the chief starters haven't played in three weeks now. Chief
Speaker 5: starters have been on the day they listen, they haven't played.
Speaker 4: Me a little rustier.
Speaker 5: They're gonna come out swinging on the first two three
Speaker 5: drives of the game. And you know, if if he
Speaker 5: doesn't play well in the first second quarter of this game,
Speaker 5: that may be hard.
Speaker 4: To hit that number.
Speaker 5: Uh that that that on the moral passing yards for him.
Speaker 5: So but that's the only one that lets a little shaky.
Speaker 1: Why why why wouldn't they, Adam, We've been off three weeks,
Speaker 1: But they should come out swinging. They're gonna be spread, spry, healthy,
Speaker 1: had enough time in the hot tub to thauna the
Speaker 1: cold pledge and everything else in between. They're good to go.
Speaker 1: They should to come out there with fresh legs. They
Speaker 1: saw they ain't been beat up. They might be a
Speaker 1: bit rusty, but they can work off that Russ instantly
Speaker 1: looking to air it out. What didn't you say?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: But the thing is that passing game is all about timing, man,
Speaker 5: and and you get three weeks off, you get three
Speaker 5: weeks off. It may not click the way everyone thinks
Speaker 5: it's going to in the first quarter of that game.
Speaker 5: So I think Mahomes will play well, but taking more
Speaker 5: on his passing yards in the in the first time
Speaker 5: he's playing in a few weeks.
Speaker 4: I'm a little shaky on that one.
Speaker 1: Overall.
Speaker 4: I like the picks though.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you this for I let you before
Speaker 1: I move on from list of day who you got
Speaker 1: one in these games?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 5: I like I got the Eagles winning. Okay, I like
Speaker 5: at the end of the day, man, the the way
Speaker 5: Jane and Daniels is playing. I like the Commanders to win.
Speaker 1: Uh. The way the Commander is to beat Detroit.
Speaker 4: Yes, I like I like the command beat Detroit.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And it all to me.
Speaker 5: It all to me comes down to how well the
Speaker 5: Commanders have been playing on offense. And then for Detroit
Speaker 5: and Jared Goff. Listen, it's been it's been a Cinderella
Speaker 5: story for a long time.
Speaker 3: Everyone.
Speaker 5: Everyone's riding the Lions wave right now. Everyone's talking about
Speaker 5: how great they are. All the love around Dan Campbell.
Speaker 5: It's too much for me, man, it's too much. It's
Speaker 5: time that we get a big upset in one of
Speaker 5: these games, and it's gonna be the Commanders.
Speaker 1: Well how big of an upset would be if you
Speaker 1: got thirteen to fifteen dudes on injured reserve. But that's
Speaker 1: a subject for another day. Let me switch to college
Speaker 1: football because I can't believe that Notre Dame is going
Speaker 1: to be playing for the national championship. But give Marcus
Speaker 1: Freeman all the credit in the world for doing what
Speaker 1: he has done. You see my picks up there, Riley Leonard,
Speaker 1: Will Howard just see you know, love there as well
Speaker 1: of course, Traveon Henderson. I mean, any issues with the
Speaker 1: picks that I picked right there for you?
Speaker 4: Now? I like it.
Speaker 5: I mean, first, Will Howard, how about the free swear
Speaker 5: from Prize Picks zero point five yards for Will Howard.
Speaker 5: No one's doing it like Prize Picks right now, that's
Speaker 5: a free bet. I mean, that's the thing that's a
Speaker 5: little bit shaky. A little bit shaky is just the
Speaker 5: Riley Leonard passing yards. You know how does Notre Dame
Speaker 5: throw the football against a Ohio State secondary that's been
Speaker 5: playing really well and Riley Leonard. Here's the matchup I'm
Speaker 5: watching Riley Leonard when he's playing against the blitz is
Speaker 5: one of the best in the country. Riley Leonard against
Speaker 5: drop back when a team can win when the defense
Speaker 5: drops seven in the coverage only rushes four is one
Speaker 5: of the worst in the country. He's bad when teams
Speaker 5: aren't blitzing. Um, that's true because he's not comfortable in
Speaker 5: the pocket like that. So Ohio State now doesn't blitz
Speaker 5: that much. So it's gonna put Riley Leonard in a
Speaker 5: position where he's gonna have to try to win the
Speaker 5: game with his arm. If I'm Notre Dame, I'm getting
Speaker 5: Ryley Leonard out of that pocket. Let him create with
Speaker 5: his legs, let him make some things happen on the perimeter.
Speaker 5: I'm a little bit nervous about how well Ryley Leonard
Speaker 5: can really complete passes in this game. I think that'll
Speaker 5: be the struggle, and it's why I have Ohio State
Speaker 5: winning the game.
Speaker 1: How do you feel about Ohio State's Notre Dame rather
Speaker 1: its defense to gets Ohio State's offense. I mean, with
Speaker 1: the weapons that them brothers had, it's Smith and Nigmuka
Speaker 1: and Henderson and nose boys, how is Notre Dame gonna
Speaker 1: stop them?
Speaker 5: For Notre Dame, the key is gonna come down to
Speaker 5: tackling in space. Listen, Notre Dame plays Cover one. I mean,
Speaker 5: you know, man demand coverage, just cat coverage, right, you
Speaker 5: cover that cat and that's who you got. They play
Speaker 5: that Cover one one high safety and Ohio State doesn't
Speaker 5: face the ton of Cover one because they got those
Speaker 5: freak receivers Jerry Mina Smith, I'm Mecha booke A Carnel Tate.
Speaker 5: So that matchup against these Ohio State receivers will be
Speaker 5: the key to the game. If you want to play
Speaker 5: man covers though, for Notre Dame, you better be great
Speaker 5: at tackling the guy who has the ball. That's what
Speaker 5: it all comes down to. Can Notre Dame tackle in space?
Speaker 5: If Ohio State has big plays, it's gonna be ben
Speaker 5: if Notre Dame missed some tackles.
Speaker 4: Not because Notre Dame was out of position.
Speaker 1: But Adam, I'm asking you Ken they can they tackle
Speaker 1: in space?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think they will. I have this game being
Speaker 5: very close. I think Notre Dame keeps it tight. I
Speaker 5: think they they're able to stop some of Ohio State's
Speaker 5: run game. Listen, Ohio States offense wasn't even that good
Speaker 5: against Texas. They had fourteen points and then he add
Speaker 5: on a ninety yard defensive touchdown and he add on
Speaker 5: a seventy five yard screenplay before the half.
Speaker 4: That was kind of a flute play.
Speaker 5: This Ohio State offense wasn't clicking real well against against Texas.
Speaker 5: I think Notre Dame will be able to slow them down,
Speaker 5: and I think it's a really tight, back and forth
Speaker 5: ball game. I have Ohio State winning probably twenty four twenty,
Speaker 5: but Notre Dame keeps this one close. The key to
Speaker 5: Ohio State is gonna be their star receiver Jeremiah smith Man.
Speaker 5: He's gonna have to have a big day as an
Speaker 5: offensive coordinator, Chip Kelly, You're judge in these games by
Speaker 5: how well your best player plays. Jeremy smith is the
Speaker 5: best player on the field. He needs to have a
Speaker 5: big afternoon.
Speaker 1: See for me, Adam I'm gonna let you go, but
Speaker 1: I want to go by saying this. I think if
Speaker 1: it's close, it's Notre Dame. I think Ohio State. I
Speaker 1: got Ohio State winning the national championship, but I got
Speaker 1: them winning comfortably, pulling away in the fourth quarter. I'm
Speaker 1: just of the mindset that the closer it is, the
Speaker 1: more palms will get sweaty and backsides will get tight
Speaker 1: because all the pressure will be on Ohio State because
Speaker 1: Notre Dame has absolutely positively nothing to lose. Nobody expected
Speaker 1: them to be in this position. That's just where I'm
Speaker 1: at with it. Adam. I appreciate man, you you you
Speaker 1: coming on with this prospect segment. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: I appreciate the breakdown, my brother, Thank you. Appreciate that
Speaker 1: me on all right, the one to know the Adam
Speaker 1: Brenneman Prize Pick's partner. Man knows what he's talking about.
Speaker 1: I hear him loud and clear, twenty four to twenty Damn.
Speaker 1: I'm scared now. I'm scared for a house state now,
Speaker 1: I really am.
Speaker 6: Oh my goodness, I couldn't wait to have my next guess.
Speaker 1: My brother from another mother. It's been a wild baby.
Speaker 1: It's been a while, but I mean we're talking about
Speaker 1: a future Hall of Famer at the tight end spot,
Speaker 1: one of the greatest who've ever played the game, the
Speaker 1: one and only Travis Kelsey of the rating, two time
Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champion Kisa City Chiefs. What's up a
Speaker 1: big time? Are you doing? Man?
Speaker 7: Man, It's so good to be on here with this.
Speaker 7: It's been too long, Man, it's been too long. Mission
Speaker 7: big guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, I miss you too. I'm just saying, I mean, damn,
Speaker 1: how times have changed. I mean, the brother got the
Speaker 1: new Heights podcast, God damned near three million subscribers, about
Speaker 1: to win another Super I mean, every way I turn around,
Speaker 1: I'm like, he's living a good life. How is life
Speaker 1: treating Travis Kelce these days? Man?
Speaker 7: Man, I can't complain about a single thing. I wouldn't
Speaker 7: if I could, But I just I'm enjoying playing football
Speaker 7: right now at the highest level. You know, we're back
Speaker 7: at it. Punch started taking into the dance and we're
Speaker 7: rocking and rolling.
Speaker 3: Baby.
Speaker 1: You know what, I applaored your response because I thought
Speaker 1: the response that you gave to people that were acting
Speaker 1: as if y'all were running from or avoiding playing it
Speaker 1: wishing that you couldn't played it. But the Cincinnati Biggles,
Speaker 1: I'm like, excuse me, Yeah, he should have cursed the
Speaker 1: entire football world out for saying such a thing. Are
Speaker 1: you shocked at even after all the success that you
Speaker 1: guys have had, that you have people still chirping about
Speaker 1: y'all along the lines of something like that.
Speaker 7: You know, you would think that Andy Reid has gotten
Speaker 7: the respect from the rest of the league that every
Speaker 7: single time he's he's on the football field, he's playing
Speaker 7: to win the game.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 7: Obviously we have bigger fish to fry, and at that point,
Speaker 7: you know, getting healthy and ready for this this final
Speaker 7: stretch was the biggest thing. But Coach Reid, anytime he's there,
Speaker 7: he's making sure he's motivating and challenging guys to be
Speaker 7: at the best and go out there and play a
Speaker 7: you know, play a game to win it. And so
Speaker 7: I think, you know, everybody's gonna chirp and say what
Speaker 7: they want, but I know the integrity of the team
Speaker 7: here and we were going out there to win that game.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, my point is, I certain would not accuse
Speaker 1: y'all to losing on purpose or whatever, but I was discussed.
Speaker 1: I said, five first down to the whole damn game.
Speaker 1: I'm my good lord, have mercy. I mean, I expected
Speaker 1: better than that for the third year, for crying out loud,
Speaker 1: but it is what it is. At at the end
Speaker 1: of the day, y'all are raining two time defending Super
Speaker 1: Bowl champions. Do you believe y'all have a better chance
Speaker 1: of winning this year than you did last year or
Speaker 1: even the year before, you.
Speaker 7: Know, setting ourselves up with the with the one seed,
Speaker 7: having having everybody have to come through Arrowhead. I think
Speaker 7: this year it was such a different It was such
Speaker 7: a different team, such a different field.
Speaker 3: We were barely winning football games at the end of
Speaker 3: the game.
Speaker 7: So there is always that that feeling of we gotta
Speaker 7: be better, we gotta be better, we gotta be better.
Speaker 3: And right now we're playing our best.
Speaker 7: Football man, and I'm definitely feeling confident, confident heck that
Speaker 7: this team can make a run at it.
Speaker 1: Confidence there's no reason it shouldn't be there, Travis. But
Speaker 1: I got to ask this question. When you consider the
Speaker 1: fact that y'all have home field advantage and the road
Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl has to come through Arrowhead Stadium,
Speaker 1: I know that's a plus. But one could easily juxtapose
Speaker 1: that to saying there's a bit more pressure because last year,
Speaker 1: after beating Miami, they had no chance against y'all, whether
Speaker 1: the minute the mediaologist said it was gonna be the
Speaker 1: freezer type of I knew Miami was done. They had
Speaker 1: no chance. Okay, But then after that, you go up
Speaker 1: against Buffalo in Buffalo, you beat them. You go to
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship game against Baltimore, and Baltimore you beat them.
Speaker 1: So looking at that, could one make the argument that
Speaker 1: there's even more pressure on y'all now to be the
Speaker 1: first three peat Super Bowl champions in NFL history. But
Speaker 1: you got home field advantage, or if you could win
Speaker 1: on the road last year, why wouldn't you be able
Speaker 1: to win at home this year?
Speaker 3: You know, I don't think anybody challenges me more than me.
Speaker 7: You know, I put the expectations on myself and this
Speaker 7: team more than anybody could put it on put it
Speaker 7: on us.
Speaker 3: And that being said, you know, like you.
Speaker 7: Were saying that I've won in someone else's stadium, and
Speaker 7: I've won them in my stadium, I've also lost in
Speaker 7: my stadium. So handling this situation the right way playing,
Speaker 7: playing with the momentum of the not letting the you know,
Speaker 7: the game get too big, and and uh and and
Speaker 7: you know, I think the biggest thing is when you
Speaker 7: have home field advantage, you gotta set the tone early.
Speaker 3: You got to set the tone early.
Speaker 7: Come out hot and and let the crowd be a
Speaker 7: part of it, give them something to get riled up
Speaker 7: for and and cheer for, and let the other team
Speaker 7: feel like they're in a hostile environment. But you know,
Speaker 7: it's uh, it's it's all mentality, man, it's all mentality.
Speaker 7: And when we're doing out on the field, we love
Speaker 7: Arrowhead and how crazy it gets, but we know we
Speaker 7: got to handle business on the field.
Speaker 1: And by the way, I got to throw myself on
Speaker 1: the sword. Let America know damn it. I mean you
Speaker 1: my brother from another mother. But I've lied to you
Speaker 1: for years. I've been telling you I'm gonna get the
Speaker 1: Arrowhead Stadium and I haven't done it yet. So I
Speaker 1: come on, man, that's up.
Speaker 4: Come on me.
Speaker 1: It saw on me. I got to get the freezing
Speaker 1: ass Arrowhead Stadium. But let me let me ask you this.
Speaker 1: And I say this, half half you know, playing halfway playing, well,
Speaker 1: you're gonna stop lying to the American public and telling
Speaker 1: them you thinking about retirement. I know you thirty five
Speaker 1: years of age, you just completed your twelve season, but
Speaker 1: damn ninety seven catches, eight hundred and two three receiving y'ards. Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm looking at you this year. Andy Reid, ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, damn sure, ain't going nowhere. The Arrowhead Faithful
Speaker 1: ain't going anywhere. What what you're doing talking about? You
Speaker 1: might you might contemplate with time, and.
Speaker 3: For I'm it changes every single day. Man. I love
Speaker 3: everything that I'm doing in this building.
Speaker 7: But at the end of the day, you know, I'm
Speaker 7: not having that that extreme success on the field as
Speaker 7: I as I have individually.
Speaker 3: Man, But I'm excited.
Speaker 7: I'm excited for these next couple of games to play
Speaker 7: up in Arrowhead, to finish this season off, and I'll
Speaker 7: reevaluate it like I always do, and I'll probably tell
Speaker 7: myself how much I love this thing, and I'll come
Speaker 7: back next year. But it's just it's something that you
Speaker 7: have to you have to keep in the perspective, man.
Speaker 7: And and I never want to get to the point
Speaker 7: where I'm not helping this team win, or I'm hurting
Speaker 7: this team more than I'm helping this team. So as
Speaker 7: long as I'm coming out here playing good football and
Speaker 7: the joint coming into the building every day with my guys,
Speaker 7: you'll see me in a Chiefs uniform.
Speaker 1: Let me remind you of some stats. I just want
Speaker 1: to throw this out at you. Last year you had
Speaker 1: ninety three receptions. This year you had ninety seven. Now
Speaker 1: you had about nine hundred and eighty four receiving yards
Speaker 1: this year is and the eight figures, I get that part.
Speaker 1: They're the playoffs to Rob Travis and you had thirty
Speaker 1: two receptions with three hundred and fifty five yards. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean I don't see the kind of drop off
Speaker 1: that you're alluding to educate football lovers out there about
Speaker 1: what it is that you think you might be missing
Speaker 1: now compared to what you may have had last year
Speaker 1: and years prior that has you contemplating stuff on a
Speaker 1: day to day basis.
Speaker 7: Well, the biggest thing is is some of the most
Speaker 7: fun you ever have in this game is having the
Speaker 7: ball in your hands. And that being said, making guys
Speaker 7: miss was something I always prided myself on and really
Speaker 7: like that was the staple. You know, I made the
Speaker 7: play more than what he was supposed to get. So
Speaker 7: if I got a deep cross of eighteen yards, I'm
Speaker 7: not just catching the ball and getting tackled. I'm turning
Speaker 7: that eighteen yard gain into twenty thirty forty plus yard game.
Speaker 7: And over the past years, being able to make guys
Speaker 7: miss just is it's got a little bit tougher, and
Speaker 7: whether or not they just know my moves and I
Speaker 7: gotta switch it up, or I gotta, you know, breakthrough
Speaker 7: tackles or find another way to trick them so I
Speaker 7: can make a miss. But that's the biggest thing is
Speaker 7: is being able to make guys missing space and getting
Speaker 7: those extra yards that aren't necessarily in the scheme of
Speaker 7: the play.
Speaker 1: You're confiding in me about it, so it's safe to
Speaker 1: assume it's a conversation you've had with Andy Reid, it's
Speaker 1: a conversation you've had with Patrick Mahomes. What have they
Speaker 1: told you about what they see from you out on
Speaker 1: the field.
Speaker 3: You know, I haven't really talked to anybody about this.
Speaker 7: You know, I think I'm still enjoying playing the game,
Speaker 7: and when I'm in the building, I'm working to get
Speaker 7: better and working to get you know, those that extra
Speaker 7: you know, strength of that extra quickness to be able
Speaker 7: to make guys miss It's it's a NonStop like staircase
Speaker 7: of success here and weekend week out. Coach Read has
Speaker 7: challenged us, our tight end room has challenged me to
Speaker 7: to do more of that throughout the season, get more
Speaker 7: than what we're just getting on the catch.
Speaker 3: And it's a focus.
Speaker 7: It's a focus that is uh that's been there since
Speaker 7: the since the since I've got here in Kansas City.
Speaker 7: And you know, I'm I'm not contemplating uh it too much,
Speaker 7: but at the same time, I'm always trying to be
Speaker 7: better than I am right now.
Speaker 1: Well, I got I got a personal complaint from my
Speaker 1: brother from another mother. I got a personal complate right here,
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you what it is. Travis, you
Speaker 1: know when you used to go in the in zone,
Speaker 1: I mean, my brother got flavor. You understand, all white
Speaker 1: dudes don't have this kind of flavor that brother has.
Speaker 1: The Travis Kelsey and the dances that you will come
Speaker 1: up with in the end zone. I mean that stuff
Speaker 1: was epic. I think you kind of doll that back
Speaker 1: a little bit and dare I say you got a
Speaker 1: little bit conservative. Might be a spike here, you might
Speaker 1: slap a high five. I don't see the flavor, the celebrations,
Speaker 1: the dance moves that you used to rock anymore. I
Speaker 1: understand you ain't catching a whole bunch of touchdowns. I
Speaker 1: get that point. You got other people to do that
Speaker 1: for you. But you're still getting the end zone from
Speaker 1: time time, and I know you go do it in
Speaker 1: a What's up with that? What happened to that flavor?
Speaker 6: Bro?
Speaker 3: I mean what I think you just called called me out?
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 3: I think I need to get back to it. I
Speaker 3: think I need to get back to it.
Speaker 7: Matter of fact, the next one I get in there,
Speaker 7: I'll make sure I get jiggy for you.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 3: It's definitely a part of just loving the game. Man,
Speaker 3: join the game and.
Speaker 7: Having the showmanship to play with the crowd and play
Speaker 7: with the teammates, and and the excitement after you score
Speaker 7: a touchdown.
Speaker 3: So I think you just you know what, you might
Speaker 3: get me back into my old.
Speaker 1: Way, right, get back in your own way. That way,
Speaker 1: you're gonna stay a few more years in Kansas City.
Speaker 1: You don't need to go nowhere. We listen, We don't need,
Speaker 1: we don't need to be a Tyreek kill. I know
Speaker 1: that's your former teammate, and you love him, and I
Speaker 1: got in love for Tyree Hill. I think he's one.
Speaker 1: I love him to death because I think he's elite.
Speaker 1: I personally believe the biggest mistake. How do you leave
Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes? How do you leave Patrick mahole that you
Speaker 1: want to get the money. But if you're go leave
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get the money, Travis, you can't go
Speaker 1: out and say your next quarterback is gonna be comparable
Speaker 1: to Patrick Mahomes. Could you at least give me that?
Speaker 1: Could you at least give me that, Travis, at least that.
Speaker 3: You know what?
Speaker 7: You know, loved the Cheetah and he was he was
Speaker 7: he was being a good teammates what he was being,
Speaker 7: so I respect saying it. And he was being hopeful
Speaker 7: and and and Tua came out and had an unbelievable
Speaker 7: year last year. Obviously he had the concussions and everything,
Speaker 7: but there's nobody like Patrick Mahomes and everybody knows that.
Speaker 7: But he was just being a good teammate, trying to
Speaker 7: shout out his new QB. We missed the guy and
Speaker 7: uh and I still love him to death. Man, the
Speaker 7: Cheetah will forever be one of the most explosive players
Speaker 7: that have ever played this game.
Speaker 3: And uh and and and a true brother to me. Man.
Speaker 1: Well, listen, man, let me let me get a little
Speaker 1: personal with you right here, because you and I have
Speaker 1: known each other for years. I got a lot of
Speaker 1: love for you. And you know me, I don't ask
Speaker 1: a bunch of questions. I ain't gonna ask one. I
Speaker 1: ain't gonna ask a bunch of questions now. But we're
Speaker 1: gonna get a little personal here for a second. Ruh,
Speaker 1: how's life my brother, Amy Travis Kelsey? Off the football field?
Speaker 1: You you you living a little bit better than most.
Speaker 1: I mean, could you explain?
Speaker 7: And I'm enjoying all aspects a lot that man.
Speaker 3: You are happy and I couldn't be happier to have that.
Speaker 7: You know, that confidence and that comfort off the field
Speaker 7: and all the support I could ever ask for in
Speaker 7: the stadium.
Speaker 1: Man, Yo, Travis, I got a confession to make, bro.
Speaker 1: What's all I never really listened to her music before
Speaker 1: I went to her concert, Yo, Travis. It's the greatest
Speaker 1: comfort i'ven't been through my life.
Speaker 3: It's off the change.
Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. It's the greatest concert I ever
Speaker 1: been to in my life. I mean, and my daughter's
Speaker 1: hood with me because they got me to take ten
Speaker 1: of their friends. And that was two thousand Apartmas twenty
Speaker 1: thousand dollars on that damn concert, twent thousand dollars. By
Speaker 1: the way, I ain't got your money. I ain't got
Speaker 1: your money, Travis, I ain't got damn sore. I don't
Speaker 1: have her money. I can't, I couldn't. I said, just
Speaker 1: better be worth it, and I gotta confess it was
Speaker 1: so damn good. I went back twice. Steven Nickson, Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I went twice. I went to two tailors Swift concerts,
Speaker 1: bro to Tailor show.
Speaker 3: She had you singing along the second time.
Speaker 1: You stand there and did and ain't that up? Ain't
Speaker 1: that's something? With that being said, when you look at
Speaker 1: your life right now, has that added to your football
Speaker 1: talent and your estimation or has it been I'm gonna
Speaker 1: compare it to a fighter, whereas you starving, you struggling,
Speaker 1: you going out there, you hardcore because you got to
Speaker 1: go and get it, and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: you hit the jackpot with everything that you're doing, super
Speaker 1: Bowl championships, you know, herd in your life and what
Speaker 1: have you. It's the equivalent of waking up in silk
Speaker 1: for jump is it trying to go in that box
Speaker 1: and ring and get it done? Where would you describe
Speaker 1: your mentality to be at this particular moment in time
Speaker 1: knowing how well everything is going for you or both
Speaker 1: personally and professionally.
Speaker 7: Well, I think personally, you know, that's the beauty of
Speaker 7: being in a very strong relationship, is that you get
Speaker 7: that support to be able to come in and focus
Speaker 7: on your craft, focus on being the best version of you.
Speaker 7: You know, that's why I wanted to be at the concert,
Speaker 7: supporting her and being there for her, making sure she
Speaker 7: feels comfortable and supported and everything she's doing in life.
Speaker 3: And you know, I think, Uh, I'm.
Speaker 7: As focused as I've ever been on my job and
Speaker 7: being the best player that I could possibly be a weekend,
Speaker 7: week out for this team. And you know it's because
Speaker 7: I'm uh, I don't have to worry about things in
Speaker 7: the off the field.
Speaker 1: There were people that looked at you at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the season and felt like you were in in
Speaker 1: peak condition and they didn't blame.
Speaker 6: Her, but they were saying you being so supportive.
Speaker 1: Of her and traveling so much that took away from you.
Speaker 1: How did you feel when you were hearing that kind
Speaker 1: of noise about yourself at that time?
Speaker 3: Well, the first thing is you have to you have
Speaker 3: to be true to yourself.
Speaker 7: You know, people are saying things. You got to be
Speaker 7: able to reflect and look at yourself and see, you know,
Speaker 7: why are they saying these things? And I was still
Speaker 7: playing high did I was still playing at a high level,
Speaker 7: you know, knowing all that has been said, we were
Speaker 7: winning football games, which is all I ever care about.
Speaker 7: And on top of that, this building knew how hard
Speaker 7: I worked and how much focus I have on football
Speaker 7: throughout the year.
Speaker 3: So it's just what's true, what's real?
Speaker 7: And how how do we become better knowing that, you know,
Speaker 7: what I'm putting out on the field may not have
Speaker 7: been my best or how do I keep getting better
Speaker 7: throughout knowing that the roles have changed a little bit.
Speaker 1: What kind of conversations did you have with your brother
Speaker 1: Jason about such subjects. This is a guy that's a champion,
Speaker 1: obviously playing in the NFL for as long as he did,
Speaker 1: damn it. I don't even remember him missing a game
Speaker 1: in thirteen years for crying out loud. And by the way,
Speaker 1: I love your brother on ESPN. He's a welcome teammate.
Speaker 1: He's a really good he's a really good guy. I
Speaker 1: love talking to him whenever I get the opportunity to
Speaker 1: do so. But what kind of conversations were you having
Speaker 1: with him about how you were looking or how you
Speaker 1: were feeling at that particular moment in time, and how
Speaker 1: you were feeling about ultimately continuing your playing career.
Speaker 7: You know, I've been so fortunate to have Jason always
Speaker 7: two steps ahead of me. It's two years older than me.
Speaker 7: We followed each other to Cincinnati Niversity of Cincinnati, we
Speaker 7: followed each other to be under a coach Andy Reider,
Speaker 7: get drafted by coach Reid. And I've seen how it's
Speaker 7: done the right way, you know, both from on the
Speaker 7: field and off the field. I think my brother is
Speaker 7: a great model of success, you know, in the city
Speaker 7: of Philadelphia, just as much as he is at the
Speaker 7: Link And and I love him for it. And I
Speaker 7: don't necessarily even have to have a lot of questions
Speaker 7: for him, but just have a talk about life with him,
Speaker 7: and and I can get a lot out of that.
Speaker 7: Out of that, I think my brother, My brother's biggest
Speaker 7: thing is, you know, when you come into the building,
Speaker 7: do you still feel you know, the energy, do you
Speaker 7: still feel the excitement and uh? And do you still
Speaker 7: feel like you can do it at a high level
Speaker 7: weekend week out, knowing the seasons are only getting longer
Speaker 7: with the man in the seventeenth game and another playoff
Speaker 7: seat or another playoff team into the playoffs. So it's
Speaker 7: just hearing him talk about how the end of his
Speaker 7: career came about and how he how tough of a
Speaker 7: decision it was for him. I can get all all
Speaker 7: the you know, I can get sent in the right
Speaker 7: direction by just being here.
Speaker 1: I tell you this much. Man, I wish he had
Speaker 1: a retired because I think the Philadelphia Eagles would even
Speaker 1: be better off if he was still there. And then
Speaker 1: we learned after he departed that that was one of
Speaker 1: the reasons Jalen Hurts was struggling because he was deferring
Speaker 1: the Jason and you know, with a lot of stuff
Speaker 1: that was going on, I'm like, well, damn, how come
Speaker 1: you didn't beg him to stay? You should have begged
Speaker 1: them to stay in additional year or two. That's where
Speaker 1: I'm going with that. But I tell you this too
Speaker 1: as well. When I think about your brother and your
Speaker 1: new Heights podcast, I want you to talk about how
Speaker 1: that came about, how that unfold. You guys got what
Speaker 1: a two point five million subscribers with crying a line
Speaker 1: and deserve it, by the way, Congrata, it's one that
Speaker 1: I got. It's one than I got for the moment,
Speaker 1: damn it all right, and you deserve it for the moment.
Speaker 1: You know I'm coming, you know I'm always coming. But
Speaker 1: here's the but here's the deal. How did that come about?
Speaker 1: And how do you feel about you two doing that?
Speaker 1: And what kind of impact y'all are having, not just
Speaker 1: in football but beyond.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 7: Yeah, And you know, I think that's been the goal, uh,
Speaker 7: for a lot of football players in this league, is
Speaker 7: to set yourself up because we know this this game,
Speaker 7: it isn't forever, and you got to be able to
Speaker 7: set yourself for what happens after football. And me and Jason,
Speaker 7: we uh to be honest, we just we missed each other.
Speaker 7: We hadn't had those conversations every single week, and now
Speaker 7: we have two hours set aside every single week to.
Speaker 3: Talk football, catch up on things, and just beat brothers.
Speaker 7: And uh, you know you got that aspect of wanting
Speaker 7: to set yourself after, set yourself up after football. And
Speaker 7: then everybody always said before New Heights, me and Jason
Speaker 7: worked on two completely different sides of the spectrum. You know,
Speaker 7: he's a he still wears flip flops in the snow
Speaker 7: and I'd like to you know, bundle up and and
Speaker 7: and look fresh and uh and you know, have fun
Speaker 7: with the things that I wear, where Jason is just
Speaker 7: about a neanderthal in that world.
Speaker 3: Uh.
Speaker 7: And they they just never saw the similarities until you
Speaker 7: get us into the same room and hear us talk
Speaker 7: at like a lunch table, dinner table. You don't really
Speaker 7: realize how close we are as brothers. Knowing that we're
Speaker 7: only two years of pardon, I've been following him throughout
Speaker 7: my entire life, man, So I wanted to show showcase
Speaker 7: that and let people know, you know, how strong of
Speaker 7: a bond and how much we support each other and
Speaker 7: what a true brotherhood looks like.
Speaker 1: Well, now that you've done that, what do you too
Speaker 1: like talking about most outside of football? I'm talking about
Speaker 1: outside of football on the podcast, the kind of information
Speaker 1: or the kind of subject matter you want to disseminate
Speaker 1: to the public. What do you enjoy tackling most?
Speaker 7: You know what the most fun I have is UH
Speaker 7: is talking about my childhood, my love for sports, and
Speaker 7: what really sparked me to get into the profession that
Speaker 7: I am that I have today. And I think having
Speaker 7: ex players come on and having the stars of my
Speaker 7: childhood and and and UH and Jason's childhood come on
Speaker 7: and talk about what made.
Speaker 3: Them great and just the stories of you know, what
Speaker 3: they went through.
Speaker 7: I think that's the fun part is being able to
Speaker 7: just talk to Jason about our childhood and tell the
Speaker 7: fun stories about being in the Kelsey household as well
Speaker 7: as you know, the things that we love to do
Speaker 7: as kids and now as adults.
Speaker 1: Are you prepared and as Jason prepared for the fact
Speaker 1: that as y'all continue to grow and shine, because the
Speaker 1: podcast is not going away, as your audience grows, I
Speaker 1: know you're going to want to continue to do it.
Speaker 1: With that being said, you're going to have to find
Speaker 1: yourself being a bit critical of folks out there when
Speaker 1: they ain't getting the job done, when they mess up
Speaker 1: and you as a three time super Bowl champion, him
Speaker 1: as a champion. When you think about what y'all are
Speaker 1: bringing to the table in that regard, are y'all prepared
Speaker 1: to have to deal with.
Speaker 3: All of that?
Speaker 7: And you know what, I think that's what makes guys
Speaker 7: like yourself so good is the ability to be true.
Speaker 7: And I think You've always been true to me in
Speaker 7: my career. You've called me out on numerous times, and
Speaker 7: I've always accepted that, and I've always, you know, reevaluated
Speaker 7: what I've been doing because you do. You always keep
Speaker 7: it real and you always keep it honest. And that's
Speaker 7: why I love listening to you, big dogwas. I think
Speaker 7: I think that is a talent in itself. I meet personally.
Speaker 7: I like to shine light on everybody and everything. I
Speaker 7: don't really like to take too many shots of people
Speaker 7: unless I've been truly disrespected.
Speaker 4: So it is, it is.
Speaker 7: It has been a bit of a challenge being able
Speaker 7: to call things out and be confident and try and
Speaker 7: be critical without chopping somebody down.
Speaker 3: But it's definitely something that that I'm working off for
Speaker 3: shore I try.
Speaker 1: I try to make sure I don't get personal and
Speaker 1: that a guy knows that when I'm being critical of you,
Speaker 1: I'm not rooting against you. I'm telling you you ain't
Speaker 1: doing what you're supposed to be doing. Your ability, your
Speaker 1: ability to do that. You get that. I get that,
Speaker 1: Jason gets that. But you know as well as I do,
Speaker 1: not just in the NFL, but in professional sports, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of cats that don't get it and don't
Speaker 1: embrace it that way. How do you deal with that?
Speaker 7: Well, what's real and what's not real? I was talking
Speaker 7: about it earlier, about watching film and seeing, you know,
Speaker 7: how how the success I've had in the past is
Speaker 7: compared to the success I'm having now. And I think
Speaker 7: it's the same in the media. You know, somebody's saying something.
Speaker 7: What's warranting them for saying that?
Speaker 3: Why? What's the reasoning for it?
Speaker 7: You have to be confident in your abilities, but also
Speaker 7: confident to just keep trying to find ways to better yourself,
Speaker 7: better your team and uh and you always got to
Speaker 7: separate reality from from what's not real. And what's real
Speaker 7: for me is the building I walk into, the faces
Speaker 7: that I go to work with, and uh, then the
Speaker 7: people that I love at home, and you know that's
Speaker 7: what that's what you really gotta know, differentiate and be
Speaker 7: comfortable in your own skin.
Speaker 3: Man, you can't get.
Speaker 1: Yeah, appropriate question to ask with that Lombardy Trophy hanging
Speaker 1: above your head right there.
Speaker 3: Y'alls on the shine to it.
Speaker 1: There you go, there you go. That ain't your office, though,
Speaker 1: I mean, is that's your crib?
Speaker 4: I got you so.
Speaker 1: So here you are on the verge of possibly being
Speaker 1: the first team and that NFL history to three P
Speaker 1: as Super Bowl champions. It's one thing to compartmentalize and say,
Speaker 1: we just hear we going for the chip. Obviously y'all
Speaker 1: said it on stage after y'all beat San Francisco in
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl last year. We going for a three
Speaker 1: P first team in order to pull it off? What
Speaker 1: would that mean to y'all?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 7: You know, I've always been trying to chase greatness my
Speaker 7: entire life. I've been so fortunate to be able to
Speaker 7: come here to Kansas City and have to fill the
Speaker 7: shoes of a guy like Tony Gonzalez. And then, you know,
Speaker 7: when when you start to have your own success, you
Speaker 7: start to really feel the urge to keep to keep
Speaker 7: being greater than what you've been in the past, and
Speaker 7: no team has ever done it three times in a row, man.
Speaker 7: And I don't know why, but last year I felt
Speaker 7: like I wanted it more than I had in previous
Speaker 7: years because it was the Upper Echelona teams that had
Speaker 7: gone back to back, you know, they were considered dynasty
Speaker 7: teams that were considered teams that you know, took over
Speaker 7: an entire decade of football and remember forever, and those
Speaker 7: teams being able to get it and done a third
Speaker 7: time all fell short. And I see that as an
Speaker 7: opportunity to be the greatest dynasty or the greatest you know,
Speaker 7: team of the decade, however you.
Speaker 3: Want to call it.
Speaker 7: But I just have it in me to really want
Speaker 7: that for the guys that I've gone to war with
Speaker 7: in this building and have seen work so hard to
Speaker 7: be able to get it to this point.
Speaker 1: Man, Travis, let me throw this out at you, bro.
Speaker 1: Travis Kelcey all time NFL rank as a tight end.
Speaker 1: Receptions third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Whitten, receiving yards
Speaker 1: third behind Tony Gonzalez and Jason Witten, touchdown catches fifth
Speaker 1: all time. If you three pet is it possible that
Speaker 1: in a month's time.
Speaker 6: Travis Kelsey says, I did it three re peede it.
Speaker 1: Look at my numbers. I'm done. My football career is over.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 7: You know I think, uh, I think, I'm I'm so
Speaker 7: deep in chasing this one right now. I can't even
Speaker 7: fathom what football would be like. Uh not in like
Speaker 7: not playing football as a profession. Man, I still love
Speaker 7: coming into the building every single day. Does it get hard, Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: I'm not. I'm not doing it for the stats. I'm
Speaker 3: doing it for the greatness.
Speaker 7: Uh the legacy that we've created here in Kansas City
Speaker 7: with with Pat, with Chris Jones, with Coach Red, Coach Spags,
Speaker 7: you name all the guys in the building. Man, it's
Speaker 7: been It's been so much fun coming in the building
Speaker 7: with these guys. So I can't fathom what it would
Speaker 7: feel like just being able to say I'm I'm satisfied,
Speaker 7: because I'm still hungry to go and get something right now.
Speaker 1: You know, I remember when Time Brady was winning Super Bowls.
Speaker 1: He had a supermodel for a wife that wanted him
Speaker 1: to retire. Uh is miss Swift? Is she encouraging you
Speaker 1: to continue to play or to retire because it is
Speaker 1: a violent sport and she don't want her.
Speaker 7: She's fully encouraging me to enjoy playing this game. And uh,
Speaker 7: she loves coming to Arrowhead and coming to the games
Speaker 7: and cheril for me. So I got all the support
Speaker 7: in the world to keep chasing these dreams.
Speaker 1: Andy Reid the best coach ever, the.
Speaker 7: Greatest to ever do it, even with Belichick out. The
Speaker 7: wins are there, the super Bowls are there. He's gone
Speaker 7: every everywhere he's gone, he's won, and and he's done
Speaker 7: it in a in a way that's that's so much
Speaker 7: respected by everybody that plays for him.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you noticed. Andy Reid and I
Speaker 1: go back to my Philadelphia days.
Speaker 3: I love that. Oh yeah, I love that.
Speaker 1: Man. I'm gonna talk to him soon. But Andy Reid,
Speaker 1: what makes him special? I know he knows what he's
Speaker 1: doing as a football coach, but I'm talking about from
Speaker 1: a personality standpoint. For him to be his age, to
Speaker 1: be around as long as he is, and to be
Speaker 1: so relatable to the modern day player while still having
Speaker 1: structured just every coach can't pull that off. How does
Speaker 1: he do it?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 7: He's tough, and he shows his toughness every single day.
Speaker 7: He shows his desire to be at his best every
Speaker 7: single day. I'd laugh about it all the time. I
Speaker 7: never see his truck leave this parking lot. Man, this
Speaker 7: guy loves, loves being accountable and loves coming in and
Speaker 7: being his best for this organization in this city. And
Speaker 7: I just I think it's a unique blend of being
Speaker 7: able to be relatable to everybody. No matter how old
Speaker 7: he gets and how young these players are getting in
Speaker 7: the league, he always has the ability to relate to guys.
Speaker 3: And that's big in the football world because these days,
Speaker 3: these days get long, and.
Speaker 7: You know, it's just it gets difficult coming in and
Speaker 7: doing the same routines for twenty weeks out of the year.
Speaker 7: So being able to relate to everybody, being able to
Speaker 7: have that toughness to respect out of everybody, and on
Speaker 7: top of that being true, he's always real. He'll tell
Speaker 7: He'll tell you when you're slacking, no matter if you're
Speaker 7: an a time Pro bowler or the rookie on the team,
Speaker 7: He'll tell you when you're slacking and when you need
Speaker 7: to pick it up. And and honestly, because you relate
Speaker 7: to him so well and he has so much toughness,
Speaker 7: it typically just turns into a challenge for you. To
Speaker 7: get better and uh, and I think he does that
Speaker 7: better than anybody in the league, on top of just
Speaker 7: being able to be creative and have fun, uh, you know,
Speaker 7: making up these plays in the building and always putting
Speaker 7: his players in the best place to the best situations
Speaker 7: to have success on the field.
Speaker 1: Two quick last questions before I'll let you go. Patrick
Speaker 1: Mahomes three super Bowl titles in five years. If y'all
Speaker 1: had an offensive line, that would have been four.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, here's what it
Speaker 1: comes down to. A lot of people look at him
Speaker 1: and they say he's the best ever ever. Others look
Speaker 1: at at Joe Montana four rings, Others look at a
Speaker 1: Pat Tom Brady seven rings. The three peat will cement it, okay,
Speaker 1: but without the three pat, you look at Patrick Mahomes
Speaker 1: right now, based on the guys that I mentioned, he's
Speaker 1: the best on the planet.
Speaker 7: To you ever, best ever do it, the best ever
Speaker 7: do it? And and to be honest, I think, you know,
Speaker 7: obviously I'm a little biased. I think I've been on
Speaker 7: the receiving end of a lot of Pat Mahomes throws
Speaker 7: that have just blown my mind that he.
Speaker 3: Could even make these throws. Sometimes but his ability, his
Speaker 3: natural ability.
Speaker 7: To make plays, him make plays, break break tackles, throw
Speaker 7: the ball across the field. It's it's he's done it
Speaker 7: in a way that no quarterback has ever played this game.
Speaker 7: And uh, and he's won at a very very high level. Uh,
Speaker 7: you know, with with the world count them out a
Speaker 7: few times and and I think that, uh, you know,
Speaker 7: his ability to lead, just like Coach Reid, and his
Speaker 7: ability to come in and motivate guys and make guys
Speaker 7: better on this team is second to none, man. And
Speaker 7: I just uh, I see it every single day, just
Speaker 7: like I see it with Coach Reid. His attention to detail,
Speaker 7: how fast he thinks, how fast he can get the
Speaker 7: ball out, his ability to make every throat and then
Speaker 7: on top of that, you got the wins and the
Speaker 7: Super Bowls to do it.
Speaker 6: Is there somebody that you think is the toughest competition
Speaker 6: waiting for you?
Speaker 1: Or does it matter?
Speaker 7: I said this on on New Heights, Man, I want
Speaker 7: to play the best man, whoever that is, whoever were presented.
Speaker 7: I want them to be at their best, and I
Speaker 7: want it to be you know, a challenge that's uh,
Speaker 7: that's worth fighting for.
Speaker 3: Man. I just love I love this time of the year.
Speaker 3: I think it's it's my favorite time of the year.
Speaker 7: I've been hoping I can press fast forward just to
Speaker 7: get to this point, but know that the NFL doesn't
Speaker 7: work like that. But whoever, we we get an arrowhead,
Speaker 7: I'm fired up and I'm ready to compete and just
Speaker 7: give them, give them our best.
Speaker 6: My very last question, is it all right for us
Speaker 6: to call you a swifty?
Speaker 4: Is that all right?
Speaker 3: I'm the number one swift.
Speaker 1: Number one right, even even more than Mama, even more
Speaker 1: to Mama, she seems to be a swift.
Speaker 3: Now I'm right there. We're neck and neck. We're right there,
Speaker 3: we're tired at the top.
Speaker 1: Nothing but love for you, my brother. Is so good
Speaker 1: to see you. Man. Now you know I'm gonna catch
Speaker 1: you down the road. I'll be at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: I'll try to get the arrow head before I can't
Speaker 1: make any promises what it's cold, Whether it's coldor can't
Speaker 1: make any promises. But I miss you, my man, and
Speaker 1: and yes I'm coming on New Heights. When you call, man,
Speaker 1: I'll beat there.
Speaker 3: You're the best ever do it.
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Speaker 1: go back a long ways. You know, he's a cool brother,
Speaker 1: and I don't comment about people's personal life, and I
Speaker 1: ain't about to start that now. Let's just say I
Speaker 1: knew him long before Tiller Swift ever came along. I
Speaker 1: know what the brother's about. I know what kind of
Speaker 1: brother he is, and he's truly one of those people
Speaker 1: that's like my brother from another mother. He's just he's
Speaker 1: just that cool, that relatable, that down to earth, that
Speaker 1: decent as a as a human being. He's real good
Speaker 1: people and I've always had a lot of love for him.
Speaker 1: I don't get into a lot of intimate personal details
Speaker 1: about people personal life. I know y'all were expecting that.
Speaker 1: Damn that shit. I don't do that. Okay, whatever, he
Speaker 1: wants to tell, he wants to tell. He ain't asking
Speaker 1: me about my personal life. I ain't asking you about
Speaker 1: yours on that level. Say what you want to say, Okay.
Speaker 1: But he's very happy. He's happier than I've ever seen him.
Speaker 1: He's at peace with himself, seems to have found his
Speaker 1: rhythm in life, per se, And what can you say
Speaker 1: about it? He's one of those casters gonna be around
Speaker 1: for a very long time the minute he leaves the business.
Speaker 1: I mean you already see his new Heights podcast. You
Speaker 1: know over two and a half million subscribers for crying
Speaker 1: a lout him and his brother Jason Kelsey doing their thing. Travis,
Speaker 1: he ain't going nowhere. He gonna play football for a
Speaker 1: little while longer if he wants to. He'll contemplate whether
Speaker 1: he's gonna retire or not after this season is over.
Speaker 1: But he's definitely got a career in an industry, not
Speaker 1: just in podcasting, but in television. What network ain't gonna
Speaker 1: want to hire him to talk about NFL football? Who's
Speaker 1: not gonna do that? Okay? And then, Lord help you
Speaker 1: if things go even further with Taylor Swift, I mean,
Speaker 1: my lord, he'll be the most popular football player in history,
Speaker 1: not because of football, so I mean, and that's what
Speaker 1: a hale. That's with Hall of Fame credentials, so the
Speaker 1: sky's the limit for him. But he's truly one of
Speaker 1: those people who deserved it, and I'm really really happy
Speaker 1: for him, and it was good to see him and
Speaker 1: it was good to talk to him as well. I
Speaker 1: hope y'all enjoyed the conversation as much as I did,
Speaker 1: because I really did. And I still don't know if
Speaker 1: the Chiefs gonna win it, because I got to tell you,
Speaker 1: Buffalo or Baltimore, they got what it takes to take
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs out of here, and I think
Speaker 1: the Roy if they met him in the Super Bowl,
Speaker 1: got what it takes. I don't know if they beat
Speaker 1: the Chiefs or not. Who the hell knows who's gonna
Speaker 1: be Patrick Mahomes, But the fact that they got a
Speaker 1: chance makes these playoffs very, very interesting and compelling, which
Speaker 1: means I'm looking forward to the games to come. So
Speaker 1: I hope y'all enjoyed the show, and I hope y'all
Speaker 1: let me know that in the days to come. Until then,
Speaker 1: I'm about to sign off right here. To stephen A. Smith,
Speaker 1: I'm out until a couple of days from now. Peace
Speaker 1: and love, everybody. Take it easy.