WEBVTT - NFL Week 8 Recap and Early Week 9 Bets - Cowboys-Broncos, Jets-Bengals, Giants-Eagles, Niners-Texans and more

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<v Speaker 1>Come to Sharper Square, presented by Hard rap Bat.

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<v Speaker 1>This is the show that makes the squares sharper and

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<v Speaker 1>makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman.

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<v Speaker 1>I am joined as always by my bff, my companion,

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<v Speaker 1>my compadre, professional vetter, Simon Hunter Ella Simon.

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<v Speaker 3>What's our brother?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, look, we're.

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<v Speaker 1>Feeling good because it was kind of a drama free day.

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<v Speaker 1>One one score game today. Going back to Thursday night,

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<v Speaker 1>so far one one score game the New York j

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<v Speaker 1>e Ts Jets, Jets, Jets. They got in the win column,

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<v Speaker 1>the Dolphins were redeemed, the Bills avoid to trap.

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<v Speaker 2>None of those games were in our Simon.

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<v Speaker 1>However, our record on the day is three and one.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the Texans at plus one. We liked them

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<v Speaker 1>up to two and a half. That's where it landed.

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<v Speaker 1>We had the Patriots minus six and a half. We

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<v Speaker 1>liked them at seven, that's where it landed. We had

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants plus seven and a half, that is a bummer.

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<v Speaker 1>And we had the Broncos minus three and a half,

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<v Speaker 1>no sweat. We have the Steelers at plus three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half. Tonight against the Packers, last On's in last

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<v Speaker 1>games in today. I think we're kind of the Pats

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<v Speaker 1>and the Giants and the last ones out. I think

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<v Speaker 1>we're the Saints, the Jets, and I guess the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll talk about all of these games. We're going to

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<v Speaker 1>get to our early leans for Week nine, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>get to some viewer questions and comments as well as

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<v Speaker 1>we dig in. But let's let's kick it off with

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<v Speaker 1>that New England game. Like I said, we had the

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<v Speaker 1>Patriots minus six and a half. Here's how it came

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<v Speaker 1>down to New England. For me, I was stretching this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>This one was my arm rotation from my frozen shoulder,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just occurred to me. We've been talking about

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots all week, and we had been bouncing around

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<v Speaker 1>between a bunch of seven point games, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>thought to myself, Dylan Gabriel cannot score touchdowns in this game.

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<v Speaker 1>He absolutely will not be able to score. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>care about anything else. We ended up putting them in.

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<v Speaker 1>It was against the wise guys because this line had

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<v Speaker 1>moved to six and a half in a lot of places.

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<v Speaker 2>The last thing I said this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Before we made the pick, I believe the Browns are

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<v Speaker 1>susceptible to big plays. I feel like our overall analysis

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<v Speaker 1>on this nailed it. I can't believe it took us

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<v Speaker 1>so long to commit to it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I would say your confidence probably wasn't this level.

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<v Speaker 3>At half. It was looking like frustrating the game of

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<v Speaker 3>the professionals do bet where it's like the Browns basically

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<v Speaker 3>pulled the Patriots into the mud, got a really flukey

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<v Speaker 3>opening drive touchdown, and we were sweating because it's like

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<v Speaker 3>May was just making bad plays, bad decisions, and they

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<v Speaker 3>kept giving them opportunities. Like you said, the way to

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<v Speaker 3>attack that Browns team is definitely through the air in

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<v Speaker 3>the secondary right, they're tough to run against, but they

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<v Speaker 3>had a bunch of opportunities passing and second half May

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<v Speaker 3>got comfortable totally different, Like you saw him do what

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<v Speaker 3>he should do is move the ball down the field.

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<v Speaker 3>And what we talked about all week, Gabriel is just

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<v Speaker 3>not a starting quarterback, let alone on the road in

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<v Speaker 3>a hostile environment like that. So he looked good on

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<v Speaker 3>that opening drive. But other than that, Yeah, that was

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<v Speaker 3>a really good button. Yeah, glad that we stuck with

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<v Speaker 3>it because it was a type of game that if

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<v Speaker 3>it was minus seven and a half, probably wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 3>missed it. Honestly, I really loved it was because it

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<v Speaker 3>was minus six and a half of minus seven, It's like, well,

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<v Speaker 3>those are good numbers. Could be laying on a push.

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<v Speaker 3>We could, of course, but no, we leaned into it,

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<v Speaker 3>and yeah, no doubt or that were clearly better team today.

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<v Speaker 3>The Patriots.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Dylan Gabriel, by the way, the first drive looked

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<v Speaker 1>like he had been playing for ten years. Three for three,

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards. Yeah, touchdown. And it's funny you mentioned halftime.

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<v Speaker 1>So in the first half, Miles Garrett had three sacks

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<v Speaker 1>and a forced fumble, and he had five sacks on

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<v Speaker 1>the day. And I kept looking at this game, and

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots went in at halftime up nine to seven,

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<v Speaker 1>and actually, wasn't that anxious. I said to myself, They're

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown away from covering this, and I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>the Browns can score again the rest of the day.

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<v Speaker 1>And we have Mike Vrabel who was so freaking good,

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<v Speaker 1>and that first drive coming out of halftime, very first

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<v Speaker 1>drive they started the second half, Miles Garrett could not

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<v Speaker 1>be stopped right, So what did they do? They had

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<v Speaker 1>a trip play that ran counter to the rush. They

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<v Speaker 1>were rolling away from Miles Garrett. They were pitching the

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<v Speaker 1>ball on runs that cut inside the lanes where the

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<v Speaker 1>rushers were coming upfield. It was the perfect drive, no penalties,

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<v Speaker 1>seven plays, seventy seven yards, five runs, two passes. Can't

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<v Speaker 1>sack if you don't drop back, and that's exactly what

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<v Speaker 1>they did. And then all of a sudden they get

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<v Speaker 1>aired out like they had multiple plays. The next drive,

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<v Speaker 1>I think they had another touchdown. It was two plays

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<v Speaker 1>of twenty plus yards, including foty yard touchdown backs to

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<v Speaker 1>Keishan Boudi, Drake May's favorite player.

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<v Speaker 2>So just awesome. They were awesome. I love them. I

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<v Speaker 2>loved Drake Mae.

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<v Speaker 3>No. It was great, but great win.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for us, very good for us. By the way.

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<v Speaker 1>The one thing I want to say, because we talked

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<v Speaker 1>about Dylan Gabriel after that, after that three for three start,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he had like nineteen total yards or something

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It was really it was insane after the

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<v Speaker 1>first drive he was he was after the first drive,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen plays, forty three yards after starting six for seventy

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<v Speaker 1>in the first half. So good for us, good for

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<v Speaker 1>the Patriots, New York Football Giants crushing. I mean, this

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<v Speaker 1>is our last one in We were sort of we

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<v Speaker 1>didn't know what to do. We took out the Ravens

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<v Speaker 1>obviously because of all the Lamar stuff, and we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna get to that. We didn't buy out of it,

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<v Speaker 1>and we actually said on the show we're sticking with it,

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<v Speaker 1>but we did. We decided not to put into the contest,

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<v Speaker 1>like we decided to go with this one because of

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<v Speaker 1>injuries to the eat goals across the you know, Aj Brown,

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<v Speaker 1>plus in the secondary, plus on the defensive line and

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<v Speaker 1>the offensive line for the Eagles, and then Camp Scataboo,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it kind of took the air out for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It felt like after that it was a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a dead bet.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, honestly, I watched every second of that game.

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<v Speaker 2>The refs were just terrible, like terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>The game flipped in my opinion, on that touch push,

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<v Speaker 3>which yes, the announcer said, this isn't the end zone.

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<v Speaker 3>There should not be. If you reach forward with the

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<v Speaker 3>ball and you are still that's momentum. You're moving forward,

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<v Speaker 3>your hands are moving forward with the ball, it can

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<v Speaker 3>get punched out like you're not down and your momentums

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<v Speaker 3>not stop. So that was that game of the Saints game.

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<v Speaker 3>The Saints had a really lucky like the Bucks had

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<v Speaker 3>a touchdown on a rain on whistle blue, so they

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<v Speaker 3>brought the Bucks back.

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<v Speaker 1>Ran into the end zone three different times today on

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<v Speaker 1>three different plays, all.

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<v Speaker 2>Of which the whistle blew before the play.

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<v Speaker 3>Was just ridiculous though, like it's same as you again,

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<v Speaker 3>like these refs need to swallow these whistles, Like we

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<v Speaker 3>can plain all the time, but it is ridiculous. So

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<v Speaker 3>that was absurd, Like just every little thing fell get

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<v Speaker 3>wet again.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to such a scene that was in the first half.

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<v Speaker 1>The game was still very cool. Seven the Sakoon Barclay

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<v Speaker 1>had that sixty five yard run and the Giants went

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<v Speaker 1>right back down and scored. They looked fantastic, like Jackson

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<v Speaker 1>Dart was slinging the ball and like looked really comfortable

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<v Speaker 1>and their defense was playing well, and they get that

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<v Speaker 1>fumble cave on Thibodeau on Jalen Hurts and the rest

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<v Speaker 1>blue the whistle and the Eagles score touched on after that.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then like there's still a much opportunities to

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<v Speaker 3>where the Giants were in the game, like they had

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<v Speaker 3>a long touchdown got called back, so the guy guy

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<v Speaker 3>pushed off when they're clearly hand fighting. It just you're

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<v Speaker 3>gonna have games that just go against you like that

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<v Speaker 3>with the reps, like we just couldn't get any calls

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<v Speaker 3>our way. All the key moments went the other way.

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<v Speaker 3>And once again Jalen her it's playing really well, like

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<v Speaker 3>he just killed us in this game, like a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of big throws where it's like he's just when he's

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<v Speaker 3>on there, it doesn't matter. There's no Aj Brown in

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<v Speaker 3>that type of game. Like when he was on he

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<v Speaker 3>was sitting guys deep all over the field. Like we

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<v Speaker 3>talked about the run game, you know, Saquon gets hurt,

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<v Speaker 3>the backup comes in, tanks Bigsby, and I think he

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<v Speaker 3>rushes for one hundred yards. So yeah, the Giants just

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<v Speaker 3>got rolled, bad bet and just brutal on a day

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<v Speaker 3>where like we've talked about, we got pretty much every

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<v Speaker 3>game right, one of the games we put in. Like

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<v Speaker 3>I think we both agree looking back, why do we

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<v Speaker 3>not just put the Colts and over the Giants or

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<v Speaker 3>whatever it may be? Those always those always hurt you.

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<v Speaker 3>Where you know, kind of hated the Giants and we

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<v Speaker 3>ended up on it anyway and we got burned.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that one was really disappointing. There was a play

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<v Speaker 1>the Giants were keeping it close. They were down early

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<v Speaker 1>in the fourth. They're down twenty four to thirteen. Eagles

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<v Speaker 1>have a second and third, Brian Burns had just gotten

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<v Speaker 1>a second sack in the game.

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<v Speaker 2>They give up a thirty one yard run to Tank Bixby.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for the fact, not even Saquon like that was

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<v Speaker 1>a backbreaker. And then even right after that they scored

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<v Speaker 1>a touchdown. It then even down thirty one thirteen because

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<v Speaker 1>it's a seven and a half point spread, the back

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<v Speaker 1>door sort of always open, right, and the Giants nearly

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<v Speaker 1>made it close. You're talking about that long touchdown pass

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<v Speaker 1>from Jackson Dart.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't remember who the receiver was. It was a

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<v Speaker 2>great play.

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<v Speaker 1>It was total hand fighting all the way down the field,

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<v Speaker 1>and the refs called the pass interference OPI called it back.

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<v Speaker 2>That's sort of the ballgame. Brian day Ball at that point.

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<v Speaker 1>Was so apoplectic, like and like it was so funny

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<v Speaker 1>because he didn't know what to do, and he just

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<v Speaker 1>took his headphones and just shoved him on top of

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<v Speaker 1>his head as hard as he couldn't look like they

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<v Speaker 1>were like squeezing his face, Like his face was so

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<v Speaker 1>puffy and red and angry and he's just squeezing the headphones.

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<v Speaker 2>He was so mad. I do wonder are the rest

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<v Speaker 2>going to have to do?

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<v Speaker 1>So, like, is there going to be a call from

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<v Speaker 1>the league about these whistles because it happened in a

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<v Speaker 1>few different games.

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<v Speaker 2>It happened.

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<v Speaker 1>It happened in the Cowboys game, in the Cowboys Broncos

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<v Speaker 1>game as well, So that was and it's weird that

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<v Speaker 1>it happened multiple times today and everybody was noticing it.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's going to have to be I think that's

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<v Speaker 1>going to be a conversation from the league this week.

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<v Speaker 3>I still like the idea that now that New York

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<v Speaker 3>is involved and we're so openly about New York making

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<v Speaker 3>calls for the refs, Yeah, give them one universal challenge

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<v Speaker 3>every coach gets to make that they challenge a call

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<v Speaker 3>on the field no matter what the rule is, whatever

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<v Speaker 3>it is, that it can be a return, which I'm

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<v Speaker 3>talking like fast interference, those type of plays where the

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<v Speaker 3>westle blew a play dead like it's the momentum all

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<v Speaker 3>of it. It just changes so much dramatically. I remember

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<v Speaker 3>they tried having that challenge with the pis a couple

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<v Speaker 3>of years ago after that Ram Saints game, and it

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<v Speaker 3>didn't work because it was the refs working in collusion

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<v Speaker 3>to get rid of the rule because they were just

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<v Speaker 3>so mad. I think it was like a overturn rate.

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<v Speaker 3>It was like dead on arrivals. So they got to

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<v Speaker 3>figure out something. It just if New York is going

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<v Speaker 3>to be involved, let's just get it right, like we

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<v Speaker 3>always say, no one would complain if we just got

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<v Speaker 3>it right, And that's that's all. At the end of

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<v Speaker 3>that we want, like it's it cleans up a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of the game. When the refs are changing the game

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<v Speaker 3>so much, it should just one challenge a game, that's

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<v Speaker 3>all we ask. Where it can challenge one call on

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<v Speaker 3>the field.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why you limited to a challenge. I

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<v Speaker 1>think they should expand the rule of what can be

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<v Speaker 1>overturned by the officials. And they've already.

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<v Speaker 3>We're not killing the play, like I think that's you're

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<v Speaker 3>about to say, a whistle killing the play is just brew.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>So the whistle shouldn't be if well. There were also

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<v Speaker 1>a couple times where there was no whistle blown that

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<v Speaker 1>anyone could hear like they were running. They were running

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<v Speaker 1>the plays back in real speed without any other audio,

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<v Speaker 1>and there were no whistles, and they're calling the play

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<v Speaker 1>was dead off of a whistle. So why do they

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<v Speaker 1>have to have a universal one time challenge on plays

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<v Speaker 1>where the whistle shouldn't be blown, wherefore progress isn't stopped,

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<v Speaker 1>where the officials can then overturn it in the same

0:13:35.559 --> 0:13:38.040
<v Speaker 1>way they can do with a turnover. So that's what

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<v Speaker 1>I'm saying, is like, if there's a question, let that

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<v Speaker 1>be a challengeable play, or let that be something that

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<v Speaker 1>is reviewed an instant review from New York.

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<v Speaker 2>That's what I think they should do.

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<v Speaker 1>San Francisco at Houston, Simon says, Look, we loved it

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<v Speaker 1>all week and we were not sort of dissuay by

0:14:00.720 --> 0:14:04.079
<v Speaker 1>Houston flipping and flopping a little bit from one point

0:14:04.120 --> 0:14:06.120
<v Speaker 1>dog to one point favorite, then getting up to two

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<v Speaker 1>and a half. We sat on the show this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>we liked it up to two and a half or

0:14:10.679 --> 0:14:18.720
<v Speaker 1>really up to three. But boy man, for a game

0:14:18.800 --> 0:14:24.560
<v Speaker 1>they completely and totally dominated from the get go. They

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<v Speaker 1>made every effort to let the Niners sneak in the

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<v Speaker 1>back door on this one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and we joke it's it's always scary when a team,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, in the first half has three hundred yards,

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<v Speaker 3>has the ball for what was they say, thirty minutes

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<v Speaker 3>or something insane and they give up that late touchdown.

0:14:45.800 --> 0:14:51.200
<v Speaker 3>Insane throw by Mac Jones, insane little window to kill again.

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<v Speaker 3>I know you're not the biggest Mac Jones fans. I

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<v Speaker 3>can't get over some of the flaer as a kid

0:14:55.360 --> 0:14:58.080
<v Speaker 3>makes where it's like he is getting pumbled in that game.

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<v Speaker 3>He's getting hit every play, and like you said, we

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<v Speaker 3>were never out of it, like he kept us. He

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<v Speaker 3>made that we had to watch that game unto the

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<v Speaker 3>fourth quarter, which is just ridiculous. Mean, you should have

0:15:08.320 --> 0:15:10.400
<v Speaker 3>been able to turn that game off at half because

0:15:10.480 --> 0:15:13.520
<v Speaker 3>Houston dominated that much. But yeah, they're just there's something

0:15:13.560 --> 0:15:15.960
<v Speaker 3>up with Houston them just not finishing in the red zone.

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<v Speaker 3>And you know, it's it's hard to get mad at

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<v Speaker 3>a quarterback that's number one, number two receiver or out

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<v Speaker 3>of the game like he's thrown to ye kid Higgins

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<v Speaker 3>who's a rookie, and you know it's just not ideal. Yes, yeah,

0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.680
<v Speaker 3>so it's like and it worked, like we said, though

0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.440
<v Speaker 3>if if he doesn't have pressure in his face, all

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<v Speaker 3>the injuries to foynineers have had, they're just their defense

0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:42.200
<v Speaker 3>as a shell. It's like they don't give you so much.

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<v Speaker 3>So amazing spot, unique spot for Houston. And yeah, like

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<v Speaker 3>you know, Tuesday when we talked about it, I gave

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<v Speaker 3>it on the basis of this is gonna be a

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<v Speaker 3>pro team appro spot. The public will build over the

0:15:55.800 --> 0:15:58.960
<v Speaker 3>forty nine ers, And as the week went along, you

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<v Speaker 3>saw the number kept moving, like you said, opened as

0:16:01.880 --> 0:16:04.360
<v Speaker 3>a dog, closed minus two, minus two and a half.

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<v Speaker 3>So those are those are the nice, nice times to

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<v Speaker 3>be a pro because it's like it feels like you're

0:16:09.520 --> 0:16:11.680
<v Speaker 3>the smart guy in the room because like again, everyone

0:16:11.720 --> 0:16:13.600
<v Speaker 3>I knew was like trying to tell me how good

0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:15.600
<v Speaker 3>this matchup is for their forty nine ers, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>just like this Texas team, they're not with their record

0:16:18.280 --> 0:16:21.440
<v Speaker 3>shows and we saw that in the game. So the

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<v Speaker 3>Colts have pretty much ended their Texas season, I guess divisionally,

0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:28.040
<v Speaker 3>but Texas all have a chance, got that wild card.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not they're not going to give up. They're a

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<v Speaker 3>good defensive team, they got weapons, so big, big win

0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:36.160
<v Speaker 3>for them. Twenty six fifteen. They needed that type of win.

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<v Speaker 1>The Bears and the Texans. And we're going to get

0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:39.960
<v Speaker 1>to the Bears and the Ravens in a minute. But

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<v Speaker 1>had similar first quarters. As I was making my notes,

0:16:44.160 --> 0:16:50.480
<v Speaker 1>the Texans dominated, completely dominated. They had just in the

0:16:50.520 --> 0:16:54.200
<v Speaker 1>first quarter they had one hundred and thirty eight yards

0:16:54.680 --> 0:16:59.720
<v Speaker 1>to the Niners nineteen twenty three plays to the Niners, four,

0:17:00.520 --> 0:17:04.320
<v Speaker 1>six first downs to the Niners zero, and they had

0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:08.960
<v Speaker 1>the ball for thirteen minutes and nineteen seconds of the

0:17:09.040 --> 0:17:12.040
<v Speaker 1>fifteen minutes in the first quarter, and they were only

0:17:12.119 --> 0:17:16.080
<v Speaker 1>up six to nothing. Yeah, and at least like they

0:17:16.119 --> 0:17:20.520
<v Speaker 1>did continue to dominate. They got up thirteen nothing, they

0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.159
<v Speaker 1>got up sixteen nothing, and then they had sort of

0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:29.320
<v Speaker 1>a catastrophic final fifty one seconds. They let Brian Robinson

0:17:29.440 --> 0:17:31.639
<v Speaker 1>run the ball back a kick off after they won

0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.280
<v Speaker 1>up sixteen nothing. They let him run it back to

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<v Speaker 1>about the fifty and they had a face mask and

0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:41.040
<v Speaker 1>then Mac Jones got the first first down of the

0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:44.080
<v Speaker 1>first half for the Niners. And then all of a sudden,

0:17:44.080 --> 0:17:46.320
<v Speaker 1>they're in the end zone at sixteen to seven. They

0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.439
<v Speaker 1>were getting the ball back to start the second half.

0:17:48.640 --> 0:17:51.600
<v Speaker 1>Because the Texans defense is so good. This year they

0:17:51.640 --> 0:17:53.840
<v Speaker 1>were to stop them and then they were able to

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<v Speaker 1>actually score to go up twenty three to seven.

0:17:57.160 --> 0:17:59.359
<v Speaker 2>But man like it.

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<v Speaker 1>Was, it was the lack of pressure that allowed the

0:18:02.720 --> 0:18:07.159
<v Speaker 1>Texans to continue to drive the ball down the field.

0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:09.600
<v Speaker 1>We talked about it. You just mentioned it to put

0:18:09.600 --> 0:18:12.480
<v Speaker 1>a stat against it. They only pressured the quarterback on

0:18:12.680 --> 0:18:16.600
<v Speaker 1>nineteen percent of his forty plus dropbacks today. That was

0:18:16.600 --> 0:18:19.119
<v Speaker 1>to us the key to the game and why we

0:18:19.119 --> 0:18:21.639
<v Speaker 1>were betting it. We just didn't think the Niners, as

0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.640
<v Speaker 1>much as we love Sala, they didn't have the horses

0:18:24.720 --> 0:18:28.200
<v Speaker 1>to really get to the quarterback and make a difference

0:18:28.240 --> 0:18:28.879
<v Speaker 1>for them.

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<v Speaker 2>But wow, like the thing that I want to know,

0:18:35.280 --> 0:18:38.359
<v Speaker 2>I want your take on this. CJ.

0:18:38.440 --> 0:18:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Stroud had three hundred yards passing his issue and as

0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:45.360
<v Speaker 1>the game went on, he started to throw the ball

0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.600
<v Speaker 1>downfield more and more. You know, the first few drives

0:18:48.359 --> 0:18:53.400
<v Speaker 1>classic CJ. Five yard dump, five yard dump inaccurate, bad screen.

0:18:53.880 --> 0:18:54.159
<v Speaker 2>It was.

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<v Speaker 1>It looked like it was going to be a frustrating day.

0:18:56.760 --> 0:18:58.480
<v Speaker 1>They started to get better. They started to convert on

0:18:58.520 --> 0:19:03.920
<v Speaker 1>third downs schematically, Did we see anything in this game

0:19:04.520 --> 0:19:06.399
<v Speaker 1>that we can take forward as we think about the

0:19:06.440 --> 0:19:08.879
<v Speaker 1>Texans because they have such a good defense. Did we

0:19:08.920 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 1>see anything that could help complement this defense?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I guess I think they're gonna be a borderline

0:19:15.600 --> 0:19:18.760
<v Speaker 3>playoff team, which you're the Texans. That's the most you

0:19:18.800 --> 0:19:20.439
<v Speaker 3>can ask for. You don't. Coming in the year you

0:19:20.960 --> 0:19:22.680
<v Speaker 3>I greted them as one of the worst offensive lines

0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:27.360
<v Speaker 3>in all football. So I remember we joked people were

0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.320
<v Speaker 3>just taking them down the division because it's like everyone

0:19:29.359 --> 0:19:32.280
<v Speaker 3>else in the division is a joke, and that's the

0:19:32.400 --> 0:19:33.680
<v Speaker 3>view of it. It's like no one thought this was

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<v Speaker 3>gonna be a good team, a contender. They're just not

0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:40.560
<v Speaker 3>built right. So for me, it's just keep approving through

0:19:40.560 --> 0:19:43.560
<v Speaker 3>the draft of the years. But like, no, watching them today,

0:19:43.800 --> 0:19:48.080
<v Speaker 3>there's just I just can't see them challenging the Colts

0:19:48.080 --> 0:19:50.159
<v Speaker 3>for this division. They just you watch the Colts and

0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.439
<v Speaker 3>you watch Houston. It's two totally different worlds. One just

0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.520
<v Speaker 3>looks like I'm machine offensively, totally in rhythm. Like you said,

0:19:57.640 --> 0:20:00.680
<v Speaker 3>everything's hard for CJ in this offense. Even on days

0:20:00.680 --> 0:20:02.560
<v Speaker 3>like today where the run game felt like it was

0:20:02.600 --> 0:20:05.520
<v Speaker 3>getting seven yards per carry for Houston, still felt like

0:20:05.520 --> 0:20:07.720
<v Speaker 3>CJM miss throws and it was tough at points for him.

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:10.320
<v Speaker 3>So yeah, I just I'm confident in them to be

0:20:10.359 --> 0:20:12.959
<v Speaker 3>a playoff team potentially, but not confident in them to

0:20:12.960 --> 0:20:14.480
<v Speaker 3>be one of the better teams in all football.

0:20:14.880 --> 0:20:18.679
<v Speaker 1>Houston had four hundred and seventy five yards. That was

0:20:18.760 --> 0:20:22.560
<v Speaker 1>more than twice as many as the forty nine Ers,

0:20:22.560 --> 0:20:26.880
<v Speaker 1>who had two hundred and twenty three. They had seventy

0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:31.040
<v Speaker 1>five total plays. The Niners only had forty four. So

0:20:31.080 --> 0:20:31.760
<v Speaker 1>what does that tell you.

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<v Speaker 2>About your boy Mac Jones?

0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:34.399
<v Speaker 1>That he was able to make this as close as

0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:37.240
<v Speaker 1>it was, and like he basically did it in three drives.

0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:40.639
<v Speaker 1>He had like three good drives then enabled us to

0:20:40.680 --> 0:20:44.040
<v Speaker 1>have to sweat in like the only game we really had.

0:20:43.880 --> 0:20:44.600
<v Speaker 2>To sweat today.

0:20:45.920 --> 0:20:48.359
<v Speaker 1>So good on Mac. He's not going to be the starter,

0:20:48.480 --> 0:20:52.959
<v Speaker 1>but good on Mac. Dallas at Denver Denver minus three

0:20:53.040 --> 0:20:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and a half. This was Chad's choice.

0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:57.480
<v Speaker 2>Our biggest fear.

0:20:57.280 --> 0:21:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Of betting this game was bo Nix. And you asked

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<v Speaker 1>me before we came on the air, what did I

0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:07.040
<v Speaker 1>think when I saw that play. I'm going to tell

0:21:07.080 --> 0:21:09.680
<v Speaker 1>you that true. The first pick, the first pick, that's right,

0:21:09.760 --> 0:21:12.520
<v Speaker 1>the first pick from Bonnicks on the first drop. I

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.959
<v Speaker 1>think it was the third play of the game. I

0:21:16.040 --> 0:21:19.359
<v Speaker 1>was so hungry at that point, Simon, after the early games,

0:21:20.200 --> 0:21:22.679
<v Speaker 1>and that Broncos game started so much later that I

0:21:22.760 --> 0:21:24.520
<v Speaker 1>hadn't turned over to multiview yet.

0:21:25.080 --> 0:21:25.960
<v Speaker 2>I got up and I went.

0:21:26.000 --> 0:21:29.719
<v Speaker 1>I got myself some carrot sticks, and so I missed

0:21:29.760 --> 0:21:31.880
<v Speaker 1>the first pick. So when I got to that game,

0:21:31.920 --> 0:21:35.520
<v Speaker 1>the Cowboys were scoring a field goal, and so I

0:21:35.560 --> 0:21:36.560
<v Speaker 1>only saw the good stuff.

0:21:36.600 --> 0:21:37.440
<v Speaker 2>So if I had seen that.

0:21:37.400 --> 0:21:40.080
<v Speaker 1>First play, I probably would have pulled a Brian dayball,

0:21:40.359 --> 0:21:42.480
<v Speaker 1>like I would have been apoplectic. But because I didn't

0:21:42.520 --> 0:21:45.480
<v Speaker 1>have to see it, I felt great the whole day

0:21:46.480 --> 0:21:48.160
<v Speaker 1>because they kind of dominated.

0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:50.280
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking of you last week when we had

0:21:50.280 --> 0:21:54.320
<v Speaker 3>that really bad night. Obviously we went two and three

0:21:54.359 --> 0:21:56.639
<v Speaker 3>with Houston loss for us. So it's like one in

0:21:56.640 --> 0:22:00.600
<v Speaker 3>the morning, and I thought of you because I had

0:22:00.600 --> 0:22:02.480
<v Speaker 3>a bowl of Count Chocula. Do you know what Count

0:22:02.560 --> 0:22:03.040
<v Speaker 3>Chocola is?

0:22:03.400 --> 0:22:04.960
<v Speaker 2>I know what Count chocolate is, all right.

0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:07.040
<v Speaker 3>It's one of the last things remaining on this planet

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:10.280
<v Speaker 3>that tastes like the nineties. It tastes like disappointment and plastic.

0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:17.080
<v Speaker 2>It tastes like the seventies, dude.

0:22:15.480 --> 0:22:17.120
<v Speaker 3>And they haven't changed the rest of the guy blossom,

0:22:17.200 --> 0:22:19.000
<v Speaker 3>but it is just terrible for you when I eat it.

0:22:19.000 --> 0:22:21.520
<v Speaker 3>It's a true depressing meal. Uh, it's only only to

0:22:21.600 --> 0:22:25.560
<v Speaker 3>get it in this Halloween type of thing. And I

0:22:25.600 --> 0:22:27.720
<v Speaker 3>was thinking, if Chad ate this bowl of cereal, he

0:22:27.760 --> 0:22:30.119
<v Speaker 3>would combust. I feel like you would just explode.

0:22:30.320 --> 0:22:32.440
<v Speaker 2>I would turn into Dracula in the sunlight.

0:22:33.119 --> 0:22:38.159
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, seriously, loove, but no, it's uh yeah, it's this

0:22:38.240 --> 0:22:40.000
<v Speaker 3>is the type of game that we thought exactly was

0:22:40.000 --> 0:22:43.040
<v Speaker 3>going to be cheat this Broncos game Like that's as

0:22:43.080 --> 0:22:45.479
<v Speaker 3>a handicapper. That's why today has been so fun. All

0:22:45.520 --> 0:22:47.359
<v Speaker 3>these games effect for the most part we talked about

0:22:47.400 --> 0:22:52.520
<v Speaker 3>gone these ways and just Deck incredibly talented. But you

0:22:52.560 --> 0:22:55.480
<v Speaker 3>saw that offensive line get him off his spot. He

0:22:55.560 --> 0:22:59.439
<v Speaker 3>had multiple turnovers on the flip side. Next other than

0:22:59.480 --> 0:23:02.080
<v Speaker 3>that one turn played against air, he just was passing.

0:23:02.400 --> 0:23:03.560
<v Speaker 3>It was like a seven on seven.

0:23:03.680 --> 0:23:04.720
<v Speaker 2>It was a practice game.

0:23:05.080 --> 0:23:07.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the run game picking up ten yards a clip.

0:23:09.920 --> 0:23:12.800
<v Speaker 3>You know, the Cowboys they're making a publicly know right,

0:23:12.800 --> 0:23:14.440
<v Speaker 3>they're trying to get mex crowds. They're trying to get

0:23:14.440 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 3>a Trey Hendricks. You're they're three or four guys on

0:23:19.520 --> 0:23:22.880
<v Speaker 3>that line away from having a defensive line. So yeah,

0:23:23.040 --> 0:23:25.280
<v Speaker 3>Dallas is gonna be a fun team. They're gonna somehow

0:23:25.320 --> 0:23:27.480
<v Speaker 3>maybe be a playoff team. But in these type of games,

0:23:27.480 --> 0:23:29.520
<v Speaker 3>like I feel like we nailed it, where if you

0:23:29.600 --> 0:23:31.800
<v Speaker 3>have an offensive scheme at like Sean Payton, and you

0:23:31.840 --> 0:23:33.560
<v Speaker 3>have a defense and can get pressure with four or

0:23:33.560 --> 0:23:36.720
<v Speaker 3>five guys, that's gonna be Dallas's weakness if they just

0:23:37.240 --> 0:23:39.760
<v Speaker 3>faced a jugging out offense like themselves and they can't

0:23:39.760 --> 0:23:42.480
<v Speaker 3>put up the points themselves because they just can't keep

0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:45.400
<v Speaker 3>up with all the pressure in Deck's face. So uh, yeah,

0:23:45.480 --> 0:23:48.520
<v Speaker 3>great Reid, get great Beck because a lot of pros,

0:23:48.520 --> 0:23:51.080
<v Speaker 3>a lot of guys talking love for Dallas this week,

0:23:51.160 --> 0:23:53.960
<v Speaker 3>So uh glad we stuck with that one and never

0:23:54.080 --> 0:23:55.560
<v Speaker 3>never wavered minus three and a half.

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 1>We never wavered. And I will tell you right now

0:23:58.760 --> 0:24:01.840
<v Speaker 1>your support for this that meant everything to me, not

0:24:01.920 --> 0:24:04.320
<v Speaker 1>even kidding like you loved it.

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<v Speaker 2>You kept saying you loved it.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, all right, well we're fight over on Tuesday,

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<v Speaker 3>not fighting. It was like both of us won day

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<v Speaker 3>and you took it. I took another game.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, no, it landed how we thought, Yeah, great

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<v Speaker 1>Baltimore was a six and a half point favorite in

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<v Speaker 1>this game. Obviously massive controversy. We covered it this morning.

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<v Speaker 1>Had a little rant the arrogance, stupidity, obfuscation by John

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<v Speaker 1>Harbaugh in a week in which the biggest betting scandal

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<v Speaker 1>since legalization had taken place with the NBA and Terry

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<v Speaker 1>Rozier and Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones to have the

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<v Speaker 1>audacity and stupidity to mess around with the injury report

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<v Speaker 1>and Lamar Jackson, maybe he's living in a hole, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>he hasn't come out of his film room, but you

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<v Speaker 1>got to be self aware enough to know the situation

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<v Speaker 1>with your league and how its relationship with operators has

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<v Speaker 1>changed the way gambling is viewed and the way the

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<v Speaker 1>integrity of the games reviewed. The fact that this happened,

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<v Speaker 1>and I know the NFL has said they're going to investigate,

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<v Speaker 1>was just, honest to god idiocy. You and I decided

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<v Speaker 1>we were going to stick with the Ravens at six

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<v Speaker 1>and a half, and that was partially because we liked

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<v Speaker 1>Tyron Huntley better than Cooper Rush. So that worked out really,

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<v Speaker 1>really well. I have some thoughts on the Bears, but

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<v Speaker 1>I want to get your take on how you were

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<v Speaker 1>feeling about this game as it started.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, honestly didn't waiver though, because it was s newpuntling

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<v Speaker 3>and it's like if it was you know, a different

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<v Speaker 3>scenario where it's a quarterback. I don't trust and I've

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<v Speaker 3>made it a lot and clear about that. I just

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<v Speaker 3>do not like Cooper Rush in this offense. I would

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<v Speaker 3>add to a bio all my positions. It would have

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:05.600
<v Speaker 3>been an absolute nightmare. But got really lucky, didn't budge

0:28:05.640 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 3>even though the line had moved, what four points against US?

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<v Speaker 3>Five points against US?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, the seven down to two and then it went

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<v Speaker 1>back up. And by the way, I meant Tyler Huntley,

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<v Speaker 1>not Tyron Huntley. Just call them snoop you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be called snoop snoop, snoop hop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's just the exact game though of you just

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<v Speaker 3>trust the spot and the numbers, and if you can

0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:31.080
<v Speaker 3>lie to yourself about the quarterback position being semi decent,

0:28:31.920 --> 0:28:34.800
<v Speaker 3>it was an automatic spot for this Ravens team. We

0:28:34.840 --> 0:28:37.440
<v Speaker 3>went through all the trends, everything like that. Just the Browns,

0:28:37.720 --> 0:28:41.040
<v Speaker 3>I mean the Bears, they were over achievers walking into

0:28:41.240 --> 0:28:44.000
<v Speaker 3>an absolute deaf trap. So, and you're gonna have feelings

0:28:44.000 --> 0:28:45.800
<v Speaker 3>about Kayleb Williams and a lot of things that went

0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:49.080
<v Speaker 3>wrong with that offense today. They were never gonna win.

0:28:49.160 --> 0:28:50.920
<v Speaker 3>You guys win this this type of game. You guys

0:28:50.960 --> 0:28:53.920
<v Speaker 3>go in there, you win, like play well and win

0:28:53.960 --> 0:28:57.320
<v Speaker 3>this game outright, you got to start taking them serious

0:28:57.440 --> 0:28:59.480
<v Speaker 3>as a contender in the division, Like, this is not

0:28:59.640 --> 0:29:02.920
<v Speaker 3>a wildcard team, this is a legit team going on

0:29:02.920 --> 0:29:06.840
<v Speaker 3>the road in a really tough environment against the most

0:29:06.880 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 3>desperate team in football, Ravens fair to say like they

0:29:10.680 --> 0:29:14.520
<v Speaker 3>lose this, oh my god. So yeah, just just a

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.240
<v Speaker 3>nightmare spot for the Bears. I'm just so happy for

0:29:17.280 --> 0:29:22.080
<v Speaker 3>our fans that it covered, because it's like, nothing is

0:29:22.120 --> 0:29:24.520
<v Speaker 3>more sickening than us getting a number hitting it, giving

0:29:24.520 --> 0:29:26.800
<v Speaker 3>it out on the show and then, like you said,

0:29:26.880 --> 0:29:28.880
<v Speaker 3>feel like we were misguided and lied to it and

0:29:28.880 --> 0:29:31.600
<v Speaker 3>now we look like idiots because an organization kind of

0:29:31.600 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 3>pulled the rug from Ethos. So so happy it came through.

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:37.880
<v Speaker 3>But my god, when that game first started, I was like,

0:29:37.880 --> 0:29:39.800
<v Speaker 3>like you said, Bears were playing so well to start

0:29:39.800 --> 0:29:42.600
<v Speaker 3>the game. Why did we not tell people to get

0:29:42.680 --> 0:29:45.480
<v Speaker 3>out of this position? My god? But yeah, like we said,

0:29:45.520 --> 0:29:47.960
<v Speaker 3>as the game went along, you saw it's just the

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.480
<v Speaker 3>Ravens defense even showed up, the run game showed up.

0:29:50.880 --> 0:29:52.880
<v Speaker 3>It just all clicked today for that Ravens team.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, look, they did some of the things that we

0:29:54.560 --> 0:29:57.080
<v Speaker 1>talked about. Were they going to bring Kyle Hamilton into

0:29:57.120 --> 0:29:59.960
<v Speaker 1>the box to improve their rush defense. Yes, they did

0:30:00.080 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>that often where they going to lean and Derreck Henry

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:06.680
<v Speaker 1>and the Russian game. And after that first quarter, the

0:30:06.720 --> 0:30:08.840
<v Speaker 1>Bears went down the field pretty easily, but they only

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<v Speaker 1>got two field goals, and you know there were That's

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<v Speaker 1>sort of the difference because in the first drive of

0:30:15.720 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>the second quarter, the Ravens just run the ball down

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<v Speaker 1>the field with ease. Derrick Henry makes everything look like

0:30:22.800 --> 0:30:26.480
<v Speaker 1>they are just he's sort of just dragging guys behind him.

0:30:26.960 --> 0:30:30.720
<v Speaker 2>And like after that, the Bears got.

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<v Speaker 1>Unscripted and they didn't know what they were doing anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the questions and comments from one of

0:30:37.160 --> 0:30:41.360
<v Speaker 1>the viewers that's watching right now live is does Caleb

0:30:41.400 --> 0:30:44.680
<v Speaker 1>Williams have a little bit of that Trevor Lawrence in him?

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<v Speaker 2>And I'm not gonna.

0:30:45.640 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>Lie, That's exactly what I thought today. If you look

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>at Trevor Lawrence's stats, We've talked about this so often

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:54.640
<v Speaker 1>on the show.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks like he's a good quarterback. He looks like he's.

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<v Speaker 1>Earned the guaranteed contract, and he's continued, you need to climb.

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<v Speaker 1>If you watch the games, you see the bad decisions,

0:31:04.360 --> 0:31:05.400
<v Speaker 1>you see the miss throws.

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.320
<v Speaker 2>You see the mistakes, you see.

0:31:07.160 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 1>The things that turn them from having a chance in

0:31:09.200 --> 0:31:12.280
<v Speaker 1>a game to no longer being in the game. And

0:31:12.320 --> 0:31:17.120
<v Speaker 1>we saw that from Caleb today multiple times, and he

0:31:17.240 --> 0:31:19.320
<v Speaker 1>is normally not a guy who throws picks. And then,

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>of course Jim Harbaugh. I thought the John Harbaugh made

0:31:23.160 --> 0:31:26.560
<v Speaker 1>a very good decision. And it was fourth and five

0:31:26.760 --> 0:31:30.480
<v Speaker 1>late in the game. They're up twenty three sixteen, They're

0:31:30.560 --> 0:31:33.960
<v Speaker 1>in Bears territory. They could go for it, they could

0:31:33.960 --> 0:31:36.040
<v Speaker 1>try to kick a field goal. Instead, they took the

0:31:36.080 --> 0:31:38.320
<v Speaker 1>five yards. They pinned the Bears back. Caleb throws an

0:31:38.320 --> 0:31:42.440
<v Speaker 1>interception deep in his end zone. The Ravens then score

0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:47.560
<v Speaker 1>a touchdown on the following series, and that to me

0:31:48.680 --> 0:31:52.640
<v Speaker 1>kind of was indicative of what you get from Caleb,

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:59.600
<v Speaker 1>which is and trevoralence, magical throws generally good stats, not

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<v Speaker 1>the kind of plays that help you win the game consistently.

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<v Speaker 1>That was my take on this game. And also this

0:32:07.280 --> 0:32:11.880
<v Speaker 1>defense is terrible, truly terrible. Dennis Allen is a terrible coach,

0:32:12.360 --> 0:32:14.800
<v Speaker 1>irresponsible the way he coached this team to not be

0:32:14.880 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 1>ready for the way the Ravens are going to play

0:32:16.640 --> 0:32:20.720
<v Speaker 1>this game. The only thing that usually brings me joy

0:32:20.840 --> 0:32:24.680
<v Speaker 1>when the Bears aren't doing well is watching Matt Eberflu's

0:32:24.680 --> 0:32:27.240
<v Speaker 1>coach in a game in which I have bet against him.

0:32:27.600 --> 0:32:30.400
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't even take Joey and Eberflues today because his

0:32:30.480 --> 0:32:33.000
<v Speaker 1>team is so banged up he had no shot to

0:32:33.000 --> 0:32:35.920
<v Speaker 1>stop the Broncos. So instead, I got no joy from

0:32:35.920 --> 0:32:39.000
<v Speaker 1>this game other than the fact we covered. But as

0:32:39.040 --> 0:32:43.120
<v Speaker 1>a Bears fan, As a Bears fan, I want you

0:32:43.160 --> 0:32:48.680
<v Speaker 1>to ask me what I texted to my son today

0:32:49.600 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 1>after the game.

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<v Speaker 3>Just tell us and the cats and the train them

0:32:55.640 --> 0:33:02.960
<v Speaker 3>and then when you're coming home, Na, don't don't?

0:33:06.080 --> 0:33:06.400
<v Speaker 2>I said.

0:33:06.440 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 1>At some point during this game, I asked myself what

0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:13.000
<v Speaker 1>would it be like if I decided I.

0:33:12.960 --> 0:33:14.440
<v Speaker 2>Was no longer a Bears fan?

0:33:14.840 --> 0:33:18.120
<v Speaker 1>What would I what would I honestly gain in my life?

0:33:18.240 --> 0:33:20.400
<v Speaker 1>What would I lose in my life?

0:33:20.440 --> 0:33:20.560
<v Speaker 3>Like?

0:33:20.880 --> 0:33:24.840
<v Speaker 1>How would my Sundays be different? How would my week

0:33:24.960 --> 0:33:26.080
<v Speaker 1>be different? How would I think?

0:33:26.200 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 2>You know? It's like when you're a fan, you're a

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:28.880
<v Speaker 2>fan of the Eagles.

0:33:28.920 --> 0:33:32.880
<v Speaker 1>We're all fan of like, we love football, We're invested

0:33:32.920 --> 0:33:36.720
<v Speaker 1>in these teams, not like it doesn't ruin our lives,

0:33:36.800 --> 0:33:41.920
<v Speaker 1>but it makes me sadder than happier and this team

0:33:42.000 --> 0:33:43.600
<v Speaker 1>just makes me sad and frustrated.

0:33:44.680 --> 0:33:47.120
<v Speaker 3>Let me counter some of your points about my dear

0:33:47.160 --> 0:33:50.920
<v Speaker 3>friend Caleb Williams. Right, we know where you stay at,

0:33:51.000 --> 0:33:54.080
<v Speaker 3>Killer Williams, Chad, you let it chose Troy Aikman over them.

0:33:54.120 --> 0:33:56.600
<v Speaker 3>You're just me and all the Bears fans have shunned you.

0:33:56.920 --> 0:33:59.960
<v Speaker 2>And by the way, last week, it couldn't have been happier.

0:34:00.280 --> 0:34:01.480
<v Speaker 2>He was enjoying the game.

0:34:01.520 --> 0:34:05.800
<v Speaker 1>He was talking about his Hammys and pulling is getting

0:34:05.840 --> 0:34:08.960
<v Speaker 1>pulled muscles on the treadmill, and like he was, he

0:34:09.080 --> 0:34:10.480
<v Speaker 1>was joyous last week.

0:34:10.880 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 3>Well, we're all ready, as the actual Bars fan on

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:15.920
<v Speaker 3>this show. We're ready for you to walk away from

0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:18.480
<v Speaker 3>this team. And Caleb Williams, it's I told you it's

0:34:18.480 --> 0:34:20.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna be ugly. It's gonna be bumpy, man. He's learning

0:34:20.640 --> 0:34:24.080
<v Speaker 3>an incredibly complex offense and he's a number one pick.

0:34:24.239 --> 0:34:27.520
<v Speaker 3>I mean, let's be honest here on this show and

0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.120
<v Speaker 3>run through all the number one picks of the last

0:34:30.160 --> 0:34:33.160
<v Speaker 3>twenty five years. It's not a beauty. It's not a

0:34:33.160 --> 0:34:37.200
<v Speaker 3>pretty list. Chat it's an ugly list where Peyton Manning

0:34:37.320 --> 0:34:40.920
<v Speaker 3>worked out it's a bunch of just shit and turns

0:34:41.239 --> 0:34:44.760
<v Speaker 3>there fourth. I mean, Joe Burrow got to a super

0:34:44.760 --> 0:34:49.000
<v Speaker 3>Bowl that was fun. Number one pick Stafford, he won

0:34:49.080 --> 0:34:51.760
<v Speaker 3>one that was fun for drafted Stafford.

0:34:51.960 --> 0:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>You're naming great players, Stafford.

0:34:54.000 --> 0:34:54.279
<v Speaker 3>I know that.

0:34:54.480 --> 0:34:58.279
<v Speaker 2>Joe Burrow, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield.

0:34:57.840 --> 0:35:01.000
<v Speaker 3>Like out, dare you come on? I'm just saying it,

0:35:01.040 --> 0:35:02.920
<v Speaker 3>but like like it took those guys years. You know

0:35:02.960 --> 0:35:05.040
<v Speaker 3>what I mean. It took Jared Goff and Baker years

0:35:05.080 --> 0:35:09.759
<v Speaker 3>to get right. I just take time with Caleb. I'm

0:35:09.760 --> 0:35:12.799
<v Speaker 3>with you, like he's twenty three though. I just he

0:35:12.840 --> 0:35:14.799
<v Speaker 3>looks like an idiot. He plays like an idiot. It's

0:35:14.840 --> 0:35:17.960
<v Speaker 3>he's so young, the league is so hard. He just

0:35:18.560 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 3>he has so many bad habits. He needs to get

0:35:20.680 --> 0:35:23.080
<v Speaker 3>beat out of them. And that's what you have the

0:35:23.080 --> 0:35:25.000
<v Speaker 3>perfect You have a psychopath as a head coach. He

0:35:25.040 --> 0:35:27.360
<v Speaker 3>will beat these things out of him over time. And

0:35:27.360 --> 0:35:30.279
<v Speaker 3>if it doesn't work again, you have a psychopath a

0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.440
<v Speaker 3>head coach. He will move on from Caleb Williams. You

0:35:32.520 --> 0:35:35.120
<v Speaker 3>have no worries out of you, So I get it.

0:35:35.200 --> 0:35:37.120
<v Speaker 3>You want to be upset and stuff like that. Like

0:35:37.200 --> 0:35:39.560
<v Speaker 3>I I see these plays too, and you're just like, dude,

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:42.520
<v Speaker 3>get rid of get the bolldy of your hand. Stop

0:35:42.560 --> 0:35:44.399
<v Speaker 3>holding on to it so long. It's never It never

0:35:44.400 --> 0:35:45.919
<v Speaker 3>works out for him when he holds onto the ball

0:35:46.360 --> 0:35:49.880
<v Speaker 3>and try to improvise. So we'll see. I still believe

0:35:49.880 --> 0:35:51.800
<v Speaker 3>in the talent. Like you said, he still makes throws

0:35:51.840 --> 0:35:54.319
<v Speaker 3>every now and then when he does push the ball

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:57.040
<v Speaker 3>forward with his feet, when he does run forward, not backwards,

0:35:57.360 --> 0:35:59.120
<v Speaker 3>he actually does make good plays with his feet when

0:35:59.120 --> 0:36:02.200
<v Speaker 3>he's not going backwards. So I get where're coming from, brother,

0:36:02.280 --> 0:36:05.480
<v Speaker 3>but just give them time. This offense is complex. I

0:36:05.640 --> 0:36:07.760
<v Speaker 3>just this was a horrible spot for the Bears. They

0:36:07.800 --> 0:36:09.320
<v Speaker 3>were doing before the game even started.

0:36:09.719 --> 0:36:12.520
<v Speaker 1>I've never been happier to have Caleb Balloons as my

0:36:12.560 --> 0:36:16.640
<v Speaker 1>quarterback then having the Ravens minus six and a half

0:36:16.680 --> 0:36:22.280
<v Speaker 1>when they're up thirty to sixteen with thirty seconds left

0:36:22.640 --> 0:36:25.400
<v Speaker 1>and the Bears try to run a sneak, they can't

0:36:25.440 --> 0:36:28.480
<v Speaker 1>get in and so they have to rush the final play,

0:36:28.840 --> 0:36:31.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know that the play design clearly calls for

0:36:31.440 --> 0:36:35.040
<v Speaker 1>some kind of quick pass, and Caleb doesn't release the

0:36:35.080 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>ball when he's supposed to and just sort of sidearm

0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:39.240
<v Speaker 1>flings it out of the back of the end zone.

0:36:39.360 --> 0:36:42.080
<v Speaker 1>So that way there's no chance, there's no risk that

0:36:42.080 --> 0:36:44.160
<v Speaker 1>they're going to go for a two point conversion and

0:36:44.280 --> 0:36:47.719
<v Speaker 1>cover the six and a half. That's when I was like,

0:36:48.280 --> 0:36:50.359
<v Speaker 1>I'm not sweating this right now because there's no way

0:36:50.360 --> 0:36:52.960
<v Speaker 1>the Bears, no timeouts are gonna be able to unpack

0:36:53.040 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 1>this one literally from the offensive line back into the backfield.

0:36:56.600 --> 0:36:59.160
<v Speaker 2>So you know, that's just how I feel.

0:36:59.200 --> 0:37:02.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm glad we wont I feel we got better's justice today.

0:37:03.200 --> 0:37:05.520
<v Speaker 1>You know that's what we got. We got better justice.

0:37:05.760 --> 0:37:07.759
<v Speaker 1>Good for Snoop Puntley. I got a little bit more

0:37:07.760 --> 0:37:10.919
<v Speaker 1>about him later in the show. Quickly, I just want

0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:16.680
<v Speaker 1>to say on Tampa Bay and New Orleans, because we're

0:37:16.680 --> 0:37:20.279
<v Speaker 1>done talking about the Saints, they're not a wise guy team.

0:37:20.600 --> 0:37:22.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to hear about them being a wise

0:37:22.239 --> 0:37:25.240
<v Speaker 1>guy team. We saw the end of Spencer Rattler today.

0:37:25.600 --> 0:37:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Fumble on the first series, pick six from his own

0:37:28.320 --> 0:37:32.120
<v Speaker 1>two yard line to a defensive lineman. He got benched

0:37:32.160 --> 0:37:36.000
<v Speaker 1>for Tyler Shuck. Tyler shocked through interception on his first series.

0:37:36.040 --> 0:37:38.160
<v Speaker 1>Anchwine Winfield was in the end zone more than the

0:37:38.239 --> 0:37:44.879
<v Speaker 1>Saints were. Thank freaking god, we didn't sucker ourselves here.

0:37:46.719 --> 0:37:48.640
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but another team like again I know you hate

0:37:48.719 --> 0:37:50.759
<v Speaker 3>them and you're saying that this is a not a

0:37:50.800 --> 0:37:53.560
<v Speaker 3>sharp team, but what are you gonna do when you

0:37:53.640 --> 0:37:57.600
<v Speaker 3>have receivers fumbling the ball as well? Like it just there,

0:37:57.760 --> 0:37:59.280
<v Speaker 3>Like you said, they're a bad team that keep shooting

0:37:59.280 --> 0:38:01.480
<v Speaker 3>themselves on the foot. It was seven three at half,

0:38:01.480 --> 0:38:04.720
<v Speaker 3>and the only seven that Tampa scored was that. Yeah,

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:08.320
<v Speaker 3>so it's like, I get it, I get what you're saying,

0:38:08.480 --> 0:38:11.000
<v Speaker 3>like you hate him, but there is a reason people

0:38:11.040 --> 0:38:13.279
<v Speaker 3>are betting this scene. They're not that terrible. It's just

0:38:13.680 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>they're like Tennessee, everything that could go wrong goes wrong

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 3>for them. They're just these these bad teams of football

0:38:19.520 --> 0:38:23.759
<v Speaker 3>now are just so bad and for them to cover

0:38:23.960 --> 0:38:26.719
<v Speaker 3>like the Jets, they need ten miracles in a row.

0:38:27.320 --> 0:38:29.880
<v Speaker 3>It's like it's just a weird thing right now, these

0:38:29.920 --> 0:38:33.879
<v Speaker 3>teams that are really bad and the Bucks they they

0:38:33.920 --> 0:38:35.920
<v Speaker 3>should like I know you said you thought this was

0:38:35.920 --> 0:38:38.640
<v Speaker 3>gonna be easier of Ron for Baker. I told you,

0:38:38.800 --> 0:38:41.760
<v Speaker 3>just Baker's off right now, he's injured. They're banking.

0:38:41.760 --> 0:38:43.320
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't easy. It was not easy.

0:38:43.400 --> 0:38:47.600
<v Speaker 3>No, that like he I think one hundred and fifty

0:38:47.680 --> 0:38:50.240
<v Speaker 3>yards if I'm not mistaken, is what he had passing

0:38:50.480 --> 0:38:54.879
<v Speaker 3>like just Baker was off today, but the Saints gave

0:38:54.960 --> 0:38:58.120
<v Speaker 3>them five turnovers and Baker will kill you every time

0:38:58.160 --> 0:39:00.439
<v Speaker 3>with that. He won't he won't make the turnover. You'll

0:39:00.520 --> 0:39:03.680
<v Speaker 3>just have his off day, not make the risky throws.

0:39:03.719 --> 0:39:06.919
<v Speaker 3>And uh, you know, even their running game, they only

0:39:06.920 --> 0:39:08.800
<v Speaker 3>averaged like three yards of carry or whatever, it was

0:39:08.840 --> 0:39:13.360
<v Speaker 3>three point two yards. Yeah, so the Bucks bad spot.

0:39:13.440 --> 0:39:15.680
<v Speaker 3>They're just this is what I love about good teams.

0:39:15.680 --> 0:39:18.120
<v Speaker 3>They showed up in other areas, which was their defense,

0:39:18.280 --> 0:39:23.360
<v Speaker 3>and they dominated. Like like you said, Spencer Rattler looks

0:39:23.360 --> 0:39:24.880
<v Speaker 3>like he's about he's already out of the league. Like

0:39:24.880 --> 0:39:26.440
<v Speaker 3>I gave him all this praise two weeks ago. He

0:39:26.560 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 3>is horrible. These last two weeks just bad reads. And

0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.800
<v Speaker 3>uh yeah it's uh it's trade. The trade deadline's coming up, Saints.

0:39:36.840 --> 0:39:39.440
<v Speaker 3>You have some really good veteran pieces. You shouldn't move them.

0:39:39.280 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>On last game. I want to talk about We've got

0:39:44.239 --> 0:39:47.920
<v Speaker 2>to get to it. The New York Jets. What did

0:39:47.960 --> 0:39:48.880
<v Speaker 2>we say on Tuesday?

0:39:49.080 --> 0:39:52.600
<v Speaker 1>What did we say on Tuesday?

0:39:52.640 --> 0:39:54.400
<v Speaker 2>Take the Jets money line?

0:39:55.600 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 1>Start spreading the new we said take the Jets money line?

0:40:01.520 --> 0:40:04.000
<v Speaker 2>Boy, did they make us look good. They worked hard

0:40:04.040 --> 0:40:04.960
<v Speaker 2>at it. They had to score.

0:40:05.280 --> 0:40:07.919
<v Speaker 1>Breese Hall had to score three touchdowns in the fourth quarter,

0:40:08.000 --> 0:40:12.799
<v Speaker 1>including a touchdown pass on a halfback option with one

0:40:12.920 --> 0:40:17.080
<v Speaker 1>minute and fifty four seconds left in this game, for

0:40:17.160 --> 0:40:19.279
<v Speaker 1>the Jets to win thirty nine thirty eight.

0:40:19.880 --> 0:40:20.040
<v Speaker 3>Oh.

0:40:20.080 --> 0:40:22.040
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for the headlines in the New York Post.

0:40:22.040 --> 0:40:23.799
<v Speaker 1>I can't wait for the press conference this week with

0:40:23.840 --> 0:40:27.680
<v Speaker 1>Aaron Glenn, who's gonna make it sound like he's a genius.

0:40:28.280 --> 0:40:31.399
<v Speaker 1>Justin Fields thrown for two forty five. That's about twenty

0:40:31.400 --> 0:40:33.680
<v Speaker 1>five percent of all the passing yards he's thrown for

0:40:34.440 --> 0:40:40.560
<v Speaker 1>this year. Magnificent, magnificent.

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:46.960
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And we definitely talked about on that Tuesday show

0:40:47.000 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 3>that at that point Joe Flacco, if you bet against him,

0:40:51.000 --> 0:40:52.799
<v Speaker 3>you could have got plus two to seventy on the

0:40:52.840 --> 0:40:56.960
<v Speaker 3>money line with that Jets team, and you know, before

0:40:57.120 --> 0:40:59.640
<v Speaker 3>kick That's why I love watching the market, because it's

0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:01.840
<v Speaker 3>just interest. Since how the money dictates the work and

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.640
<v Speaker 3>how it moves. It closed up plus two to fifteen

0:41:04.800 --> 0:41:07.280
<v Speaker 3>that money line. Yeah, So it went from on Tuesday

0:41:07.320 --> 0:41:10.839
<v Speaker 3>plus two seventy to close at plus two fifteen. Some

0:41:10.880 --> 0:41:13.160
<v Speaker 3>books close with them at plus five and a half

0:41:13.400 --> 0:41:18.839
<v Speaker 3>that Jets team. Yeah, so I mean, geez talking about

0:41:18.840 --> 0:41:22.799
<v Speaker 3>the ultimate sweat, like you needed so many things to

0:41:22.840 --> 0:41:24.879
<v Speaker 3>go your way to cover that number, and not even

0:41:24.960 --> 0:41:28.000
<v Speaker 3>just cover it, you went outright. It's why we talk

0:41:28.040 --> 0:41:30.200
<v Speaker 3>about how stupid football can be, why we love betting

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:33.600
<v Speaker 3>these dogs, and this year it's just it's just not

0:41:33.719 --> 0:41:35.600
<v Speaker 3>the pressing. You're sad, but it is in a sense that,

0:41:35.719 --> 0:41:39.040
<v Speaker 3>like I don't bet the money line around robin dogs

0:41:39.040 --> 0:41:40.640
<v Speaker 3>like I used to. I'm really heavy to bet an

0:41:40.680 --> 0:41:44.560
<v Speaker 3>ound money line around Robin favorites because it's what cash is.

0:41:44.880 --> 0:41:48.399
<v Speaker 3>And again, like this with the Jets happen not every

0:41:48.400 --> 0:41:51.319
<v Speaker 3>week but every other. It felt like, now just you

0:41:51.360 --> 0:41:54.640
<v Speaker 3>don't get these stupid upsets like this, and like this

0:41:54.680 --> 0:41:58.360
<v Speaker 3>week it was all chalk. There was this upset, Miami's upset.

0:41:58.440 --> 0:42:01.080
<v Speaker 3>Other than that, it was all favorite like it just

0:42:01.120 --> 0:42:06.040
<v Speaker 3>all favorites outright. So I just I love these type

0:42:06.080 --> 0:42:08.160
<v Speaker 3>of games. You can go back and watch it a

0:42:08.200 --> 0:42:10.360
<v Speaker 3>thousand times, like they kept showing the fans and the

0:42:10.400 --> 0:42:13.480
<v Speaker 3>stansy since you fans, and they knew like we all

0:42:13.480 --> 0:42:15.200
<v Speaker 3>did at home, that it was over. Even when Joe

0:42:15.200 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 3>Flacker got the ball back, still up six it's just

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 3>football is the best that way. You can just you

0:42:21.000 --> 0:42:22.759
<v Speaker 3>just you've lived it so many times you know it's

0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.200
<v Speaker 3>gonna happen and doesn't matter what you do, you can't

0:42:25.200 --> 0:42:26.960
<v Speaker 3>stop it. Like we all knew it was coming, so

0:42:27.960 --> 0:42:30.600
<v Speaker 3>you know, all the fourth downs, all these like insanely

0:42:30.680 --> 0:42:34.880
<v Speaker 3>random plays that worked with Justin fields today. Like you said,

0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:39.719
<v Speaker 3>he passed the ball really well. And you know, in

0:42:39.800 --> 0:42:42.120
<v Speaker 3>a week where his owner's throwing him under the bus,

0:42:42.480 --> 0:42:45.600
<v Speaker 3>under the boss joke of an ownership, one of the

0:42:45.600 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 3>worst owners in the league, for him to go out

0:42:47.960 --> 0:42:50.879
<v Speaker 3>there win that type of game, thirty nine points on

0:42:50.920 --> 0:42:54.840
<v Speaker 3>the road. Yeah, what a great, great feeling if you're

0:42:55.520 --> 0:42:57.319
<v Speaker 3>a Jets team. But I don't know about their fans.

0:42:57.320 --> 0:42:59.400
<v Speaker 3>They're probably upset, right, they don't want to win anything

0:42:59.400 --> 0:43:01.040
<v Speaker 3>now they're one of them. But I think you'll be

0:43:01.080 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 3>all right Jets fans.

0:43:01.800 --> 0:43:10.000
<v Speaker 1>I still think I don't anticipate no a run.

0:43:07.560 --> 0:43:09.640
<v Speaker 3>Like as a fan, you only get one or two

0:43:09.640 --> 0:43:12.320
<v Speaker 3>a year. Jets through that bad That was That was

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:13.280
<v Speaker 3>a great all timer.

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:16.919
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that was truly truly fantastic.

0:43:18.400 --> 0:43:21.440
<v Speaker 3>The Jets Denver they lost, I know it's England. They

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:24.840
<v Speaker 3>lost eleven to thirteen. Panthers. They lost thirteen to six.

0:43:26.080 --> 0:43:28.719
<v Speaker 3>I mean they're not that like again we're joking Aaron

0:43:28.719 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 3>Guns a back coach. They haven't given up on them.

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.640
<v Speaker 3>I give them credit for that. Three straight weeks one

0:43:33.680 --> 0:43:35.560
<v Speaker 3>score games, they've been in it. They've been fighting in

0:43:35.640 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 3>these close, ugly games. So my god is the Jets

0:43:39.320 --> 0:43:42.480
<v Speaker 3>experienced terrible but huge win for them. Now they have

0:43:42.520 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 3>a buye a week. Who knows, who knows what it

0:43:45.680 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 3>could be for them going for They got Cleveland and

0:43:47.360 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 3>New England coming up.

0:43:49.120 --> 0:43:55.759
<v Speaker 1>Simon, it's time to play. Shame shame, shame.

0:44:00.400 --> 0:44:04.480
<v Speaker 3>Shame on you, Shame on you NFL officials in that

0:44:04.520 --> 0:44:06.600
<v Speaker 3>Giants game. I just I know it's lazy, but I

0:44:06.680 --> 0:44:08.160
<v Speaker 3>just that's the only thing that really got me mad

0:44:08.200 --> 0:44:10.839
<v Speaker 3>this week. Like every team we bet on, I thought

0:44:10.840 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 3>they played well. Even Jackson Dart, I thought he played

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:16.520
<v Speaker 3>well enough to cover for us. So I really came

0:44:16.560 --> 0:44:18.440
<v Speaker 3>be mad at the players, came him out, of the coaches,

0:44:18.560 --> 0:44:22.480
<v Speaker 3>just the refs. They might have ruined me and Chad's

0:44:22.520 --> 0:44:24.799
<v Speaker 3>perfect four oh day. What could have been? What could

0:44:24.800 --> 0:44:27.120
<v Speaker 3>have been? I have really fun videos I'm ready to

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.120
<v Speaker 3>post for our perfect day, but got away for another week.

0:44:30.160 --> 0:44:31.160
<v Speaker 3>We're not perfect yet.

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:35.879
<v Speaker 1>My shame, shame, shame. Pregame, no doubt about it.

0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:36.160
<v Speaker 2>It was.

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:44.720
<v Speaker 1>It was John Harbaugh. But postgame, shame on you. Shame, shame, shame.

0:44:45.600 --> 0:44:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Cincinnati Bengals defense against the New York Jets.

0:44:52.640 --> 0:44:58.520
<v Speaker 3>Same same, same, shame shame on you.

0:44:58.520 --> 0:45:03.280
<v Speaker 1>You were up thirty one sixteen against a winless team

0:45:03.920 --> 0:45:07.720
<v Speaker 1>with a quarterback who had thrown for a combined ninety

0:45:07.800 --> 0:45:12.240
<v Speaker 1>one yards in the previous two games, with two minutes

0:45:12.320 --> 0:45:14.400
<v Speaker 1>left in the third quarter.

0:45:14.520 --> 0:45:17.799
<v Speaker 2>You had this game wrapped up.

0:45:18.719 --> 0:45:23.560
<v Speaker 1>In the fourth quarter, you give up a touchdown and

0:45:23.600 --> 0:45:25.919
<v Speaker 1>a two point conversion. You're up thirty one twenty four.

0:45:26.560 --> 0:45:29.359
<v Speaker 1>Then you score, You're up thirty eight twenty four. Then

0:45:29.400 --> 0:45:33.200
<v Speaker 1>you give up two more touchdowns. You give the Jets

0:45:33.239 --> 0:45:36.040
<v Speaker 1>the opportunity to win their first game of the year

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:42.720
<v Speaker 1>on a half halfback option with a minute fifty four left. Brisol,

0:45:42.840 --> 0:45:46.279
<v Speaker 1>before he might get traded, had three touchdowns in the

0:45:46.280 --> 0:45:51.600
<v Speaker 1>fourth quarter. The Cincinnati Bengals defense gave up more than

0:45:51.800 --> 0:45:53.160
<v Speaker 1>five hundred.

0:45:52.920 --> 0:45:55.680
<v Speaker 2>Yards to the New York Jets.

0:45:55.719 --> 0:45:59.480
<v Speaker 1>They gave up two hundred and sixty yards rushing to

0:45:59.520 --> 0:46:01.719
<v Speaker 1>the New York Jets. They gave up two hundred and

0:46:01.760 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>forty five yards passing to the New York Jets. This

0:46:05.160 --> 0:46:09.080
<v Speaker 1>is an offense that had not been able to score

0:46:09.760 --> 0:46:13.560
<v Speaker 1>more than a touchdown. You gave them three in the

0:46:13.600 --> 0:46:18.320
<v Speaker 1>third quarter and you let them win the game. Shame, shame,

0:46:19.080 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 1>shame on the Cincinnati Bengals. Love it, Simon, Who is

0:46:25.800 --> 0:46:27.800
<v Speaker 1>your hero of the week.

0:46:29.560 --> 0:46:32.920
<v Speaker 3>I'm gonna give it to my guy, James Cook. Interested

0:46:33.040 --> 0:46:36.040
<v Speaker 3>news talk a little bit about it. I was heavily

0:46:36.160 --> 0:46:39.440
<v Speaker 3>bet invested in the Buffalo Bills today. I know we

0:46:39.440 --> 0:46:43.799
<v Speaker 3>didn't talk about much on the show, but it's people,

0:46:43.800 --> 0:46:45.600
<v Speaker 3>don't I mean, I can talk. I guess more about

0:46:45.680 --> 0:46:48.640
<v Speaker 3>me taking position on money lines. But heavily invested in

0:46:48.680 --> 0:46:52.040
<v Speaker 3>that money line of that Bills team. And Chad knows

0:46:52.040 --> 0:46:53.640
<v Speaker 3>a little funny story to him before the show is

0:46:53.680 --> 0:46:56.320
<v Speaker 3>taking that check. Gave me eh why to my belove

0:46:56.320 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 3>of the Bills before our show this morning. But I mean, Cook,

0:47:01.600 --> 0:47:03.680
<v Speaker 3>something's up with Josh Allen. You cannot look right in

0:47:03.719 --> 0:47:06.560
<v Speaker 3>this game at all? Yeah? Cook cooked? He did though

0:47:06.600 --> 0:47:11.040
<v Speaker 3>like two sixteen two touchdowns. I think he broke off

0:47:11.040 --> 0:47:14.799
<v Speaker 3>his sixty five yard run. Sixty four yard run just

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:19.000
<v Speaker 3>unreal when it's going with that Bill's running attack, and

0:47:19.440 --> 0:47:21.040
<v Speaker 3>you know a game where Josh Allen didn't have it,

0:47:21.040 --> 0:47:23.400
<v Speaker 3>he didn't need to because that running attack was so dominant.

0:47:23.400 --> 0:47:26.600
<v Speaker 3>And yeah, I guess I could also go to Andy Dolton.

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:28.759
<v Speaker 3>He was also here in that game. But now Cook

0:47:28.840 --> 0:47:33.120
<v Speaker 3>for me, just a guy that we always ask why

0:47:33.120 --> 0:47:35.080
<v Speaker 3>he's not get more touches in this Bill's offense. And

0:47:35.120 --> 0:47:37.040
<v Speaker 3>I think Joe Brady's coming around to it. It's like,

0:47:37.680 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 3>I get you want to rotate guys in and out.

0:47:39.840 --> 0:47:41.120
<v Speaker 3>Just let cook cook.

0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Like Chad said, my hero of the week, how could

0:47:45.560 --> 0:47:46.960
<v Speaker 2>it not be Snoop?

0:47:47.120 --> 0:47:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Only this is a guy who got cut by the

0:47:49.960 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Ravens a year ago, played in Miami, went to Cleveland,

0:47:54.280 --> 0:47:57.000
<v Speaker 1>got cut by Cleveland this year.

0:47:58.440 --> 0:48:03.279
<v Speaker 2>You think the Browns might one a competent veteran quarterback

0:48:03.360 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 2>who is careful with the ball and knows how to run.

0:48:07.480 --> 0:48:10.680
<v Speaker 1>Then he's on the practice squad back with the Ravens

0:48:11.000 --> 0:48:15.240
<v Speaker 1>and they prefer Cooper Rush, who after two games averaging

0:48:15.320 --> 0:48:18.560
<v Speaker 1>six and a half points, they finally decide to go

0:48:19.080 --> 0:48:20.360
<v Speaker 1>to Snoop Huntley.

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<v Speaker 2>And what does the guy do? What does the guy do?

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<v Speaker 1>Seventeen of twenty two for one p. Eighty five and

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<v Speaker 1>one touchdown. He gains fifty three yards on the ground.

0:48:31.880 --> 0:48:34.919
<v Speaker 1>He didn't make mistakes. He proved that he.

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Could move this game and this team down the field.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.319
<v Speaker 1>He got them in the end zone, He got them

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<v Speaker 1>out of challenging situations. He made passes on third and

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<v Speaker 1>long when he had to make the right pass to

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<v Speaker 1>the right position, to the right guy, to the right shoulder. Snoop,

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<v Speaker 1>Huntley saved us from looking like bigger idiots than we

0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 1>normally look like on this show. For that, Snoop, you

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<v Speaker 1>are the hero of the week. I'm sharper square all right.

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<v Speaker 1>Simon says, you had Houston minus one Chad's choice. I

0:49:07.800 --> 0:49:13.440
<v Speaker 1>had Denver minus three brass Balls Baltimore minus six and

0:49:13.480 --> 0:49:15.960
<v Speaker 1>a half, rock and a hard place. We had New

0:49:15.960 --> 0:49:17.320
<v Speaker 1>England minus six and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>Sharp versus square.

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<v Speaker 1>I had the New York Jets plus six and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>You have Pittsburgh plus three and a half. Our favorite

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:34.359
<v Speaker 1>parlay Pats Bills, Denver Colts. We said, you know, cut

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<v Speaker 1>it down to minus five and a half. We also

0:49:35.960 --> 0:49:38.160
<v Speaker 1>got the Chiefs minus five and a half.

0:49:38.200 --> 0:49:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So that's what four.

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<v Speaker 1>And oh right now? And then the underdog parlay Steelers

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<v Speaker 1>Jets Saints Giants bear, So that's a loser of a bet,

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<v Speaker 1>Early Leans, Simon, And by the way, just a reminder,

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<v Speaker 1>we are on Pittsburgh plus three and a half tonight.

0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:01.600
<v Speaker 1>I know people in the check we're asking and we

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<v Speaker 1>said off the top of the show, we've been on

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh plus three and a half the entire week, Simon,

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<v Speaker 1>Early Leans, for you, I got some if you.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean insanely fishy lines this week. People be incredibly

0:50:16.120 --> 0:50:20.600
<v Speaker 3>careful because my opinion could change come Tuesday. But Chiefs

0:50:20.680 --> 0:50:24.359
<v Speaker 3>are minus one and a half against the Buffalo Bills.

0:50:25.040 --> 0:50:28.360
<v Speaker 3>That is a line I will take on that Chiefs

0:50:28.400 --> 0:50:32.440
<v Speaker 3>team right now, Like that's the Bills. Maybe they are,

0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:36.480
<v Speaker 3>maybe they have fixed some of their issues, but I

0:50:36.520 --> 0:50:40.760
<v Speaker 3>still think they have problems defensively, and Andy Dolan didn't

0:50:40.760 --> 0:50:44.240
<v Speaker 3>exploit any of those problems. So I like that Chiefs number,

0:50:44.280 --> 0:50:47.239
<v Speaker 3>even though I know it's very very Joe public. Right now,

0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:55.799
<v Speaker 3>Seahawks minus three against Washington next Sunday, What in the

0:50:55.840 --> 0:51:01.240
<v Speaker 3>world is that number? Seahawks, even if Daniels is back,

0:51:01.800 --> 0:51:05.879
<v Speaker 3>they feel like a much better team than this Washington team.

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well, defensively for sure. Right they're playing like like

0:51:10.120 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 2>They're just solid.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and it's a banged up Daniels Seahawks on the

0:51:16.400 --> 0:51:19.880
<v Speaker 3>road as well, totally different teams. So minus three early number.

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<v Speaker 3>I will take that as we sit here right now

0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:24.440
<v Speaker 3>as well. So back to back road chalk for me

0:51:24.520 --> 0:51:25.200
<v Speaker 3>to start it off.

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<v Speaker 1>Jeff, I saw Detroit minus eight and a half against Minnesota.

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<v Speaker 3>Already minus nine at hard Rock.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'd still take it at nine, you know, because

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<v Speaker 1>then I'm risking to push versus eight and a half fair,

0:51:39.160 --> 0:51:42.919
<v Speaker 1>But I have no reason not to bet this team,

0:51:42.920 --> 0:51:45.520
<v Speaker 1>and I have no reason to bet on Minnesota. Is

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<v Speaker 1>the quarterback going to be Jj McCarthy against this Detroit

0:51:49.320 --> 0:51:52.279
<v Speaker 1>Lions team that has had time off at home where

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<v Speaker 1>they just dominate all the time.

0:51:57.000 --> 0:51:59.080
<v Speaker 2>No reason to not back the Lions.

0:51:58.800 --> 0:52:02.080
<v Speaker 1>Until they show us they shouldn't be trusted at home

0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:03.839
<v Speaker 1>as a big favorite.

0:52:03.960 --> 0:52:05.840
<v Speaker 2>So that one stuck out to me.

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<v Speaker 1>Pittsburgh is a home dog against Indianapolis stuck out to me.

0:52:11.120 --> 0:52:13.280
<v Speaker 1>I'm obviously gonna wait until I see what happens tonight

0:52:13.719 --> 0:52:16.839
<v Speaker 1>in that game. But I also the other game that

0:52:17.040 --> 0:52:22.120
<v Speaker 1>immediately flagged was Kansas City minus one and a half.

0:52:22.200 --> 0:52:25.000
<v Speaker 1>I saw that, I'm like, oh yeah, that's that's a

0:52:25.160 --> 0:52:27.600
<v Speaker 1>that's a game. We're gonna bet right now that those

0:52:27.600 --> 0:52:31.319
<v Speaker 1>were those were the ones. All right, final review we.

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<v Speaker 3>Had, I'll give I'll give one sharp line. Yeah, Houston

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<v Speaker 3>plus one right now at hard Rock at home against Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Okay, still still market not valuing this this Houston team.

0:52:46.080 --> 0:52:48.479
<v Speaker 3>It seems like they're a little bit overvaluing that Denver team.

0:52:48.560 --> 0:52:50.359
<v Speaker 3>So well, for sure, we'll see where that number goes.

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<v Speaker 3>My my incant reaction is I could see that flipping.

0:52:52.320 --> 0:52:53.839
<v Speaker 3>So I'm gonna grab Houston now as a dog.

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<v Speaker 2>All right. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>We had today the Patriots minus six and a half.

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<v Speaker 1>That was a win, Denver minus three and a half.

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<v Speaker 2>That was a win.

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<v Speaker 1>Houston plus one, that was a win, the Giants plus

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:06.520
<v Speaker 1>seven and a half, that was a loss. We have

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<v Speaker 1>the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight plus three and a half to

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<v Speaker 1>round out our final five. This has been Sharper Square

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