Speaker 1: Come to Sharper Square, presented by Hard rap Bat.
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Speaker 1: This is the show that makes the squares sharper and
Speaker 1: makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman.
Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my bff, my companion,
Speaker 1: my compadre, professional vetter, Simon Hunter Ella Simon.
Speaker 3: What's our brother?
Speaker 2: Well, look, we're.
Speaker 1: Feeling good because it was kind of a drama free day.
Speaker 1: One one score game today. Going back to Thursday night,
Speaker 1: so far one one score game the New York j
Speaker 1: e Ts Jets, Jets, Jets. They got in the win column,
Speaker 1: the Dolphins were redeemed, the Bills avoid to trap.
Speaker 2: None of those games were in our Simon.
Speaker 1: However, our record on the day is three and one.
Speaker 1: We had the Texans at plus one. We liked them
Speaker 1: up to two and a half. That's where it landed.
Speaker 1: We had the Patriots minus six and a half. We
Speaker 1: liked them at seven, that's where it landed. We had
Speaker 1: the Giants plus seven and a half, that is a bummer.
Speaker 1: And we had the Broncos minus three and a half,
Speaker 1: no sweat. We have the Steelers at plus three and
Speaker 1: a half. Tonight against the Packers, last On's in last
Speaker 1: games in today. I think we're kind of the Pats
Speaker 1: and the Giants and the last ones out. I think
Speaker 1: we're the Saints, the Jets, and I guess the Ravens.
Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of these games. We're going to
Speaker 1: get to our early leans for Week nine, and we'll
Speaker 1: get to some viewer questions and comments as well as
Speaker 1: we dig in. But let's let's kick it off with
Speaker 1: that New England game. Like I said, we had the
Speaker 1: Patriots minus six and a half. Here's how it came
Speaker 1: down to New England. For me, I was stretching this morning.
Speaker 1: This one was my arm rotation from my frozen shoulder,
Speaker 1: and it just occurred to me. We've been talking about
Speaker 1: the Patriots all week, and we had been bouncing around
Speaker 1: between a bunch of seven point games, and I just
Speaker 1: thought to myself, Dylan Gabriel cannot score touchdowns in this game.
Speaker 1: He absolutely will not be able to score. I don't
Speaker 1: care about anything else. We ended up putting them in.
Speaker 1: It was against the wise guys because this line had
Speaker 1: moved to six and a half in a lot of places.
Speaker 2: The last thing I said this morning.
Speaker 1: Before we made the pick, I believe the Browns are
Speaker 1: susceptible to big plays. I feel like our overall analysis
Speaker 1: on this nailed it. I can't believe it took us
Speaker 1: so long to commit to it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say your confidence probably wasn't this level.
Speaker 3: At half. It was looking like frustrating the game of
Speaker 3: the professionals do bet where it's like the Browns basically
Speaker 3: pulled the Patriots into the mud, got a really flukey
Speaker 3: opening drive touchdown, and we were sweating because it's like
Speaker 3: May was just making bad plays, bad decisions, and they
Speaker 3: kept giving them opportunities. Like you said, the way to
Speaker 3: attack that Browns team is definitely through the air in
Speaker 3: the secondary right, they're tough to run against, but they
Speaker 3: had a bunch of opportunities passing and second half May
Speaker 3: got comfortable totally different, Like you saw him do what
Speaker 3: he should do is move the ball down the field.
Speaker 3: And what we talked about all week, Gabriel is just
Speaker 3: not a starting quarterback, let alone on the road in
Speaker 3: a hostile environment like that. So he looked good on
Speaker 3: that opening drive. But other than that, Yeah, that was
Speaker 3: a really good button. Yeah, glad that we stuck with
Speaker 3: it because it was a type of game that if
Speaker 3: it was minus seven and a half, probably wouldn't have
Speaker 3: missed it. Honestly, I really loved it was because it
Speaker 3: was minus six and a half of minus seven, It's like, well,
Speaker 3: those are good numbers. Could be laying on a push.
Speaker 3: We could, of course, but no, we leaned into it,
Speaker 3: and yeah, no doubt or that were clearly better team today.
Speaker 3: The Patriots.
Speaker 1: Well, Dylan Gabriel, by the way, the first drive looked
Speaker 1: like he had been playing for ten years. Three for three,
Speaker 1: one hundred yards. Yeah, touchdown. And it's funny you mentioned halftime.
Speaker 1: So in the first half, Miles Garrett had three sacks
Speaker 1: and a forced fumble, and he had five sacks on
Speaker 1: the day. And I kept looking at this game, and
Speaker 1: the Patriots went in at halftime up nine to seven,
Speaker 1: and actually, wasn't that anxious. I said to myself, They're
Speaker 1: one touchdown away from covering this, and I don't think
Speaker 1: the Browns can score again the rest of the day.
Speaker 1: And we have Mike Vrabel who was so freaking good,
Speaker 1: and that first drive coming out of halftime, very first
Speaker 1: drive they started the second half, Miles Garrett could not
Speaker 1: be stopped right, So what did they do? They had
Speaker 1: a trip play that ran counter to the rush. They
Speaker 1: were rolling away from Miles Garrett. They were pitching the
Speaker 1: ball on runs that cut inside the lanes where the
Speaker 1: rushers were coming upfield. It was the perfect drive, no penalties,
Speaker 1: seven plays, seventy seven yards, five runs, two passes. Can't
Speaker 1: sack if you don't drop back, and that's exactly what
Speaker 1: they did. And then all of a sudden they get
Speaker 1: aired out like they had multiple plays. The next drive,
Speaker 1: I think they had another touchdown. It was two plays
Speaker 1: of twenty plus yards, including foty yard touchdown backs to
Speaker 1: Keishan Boudi, Drake May's favorite player.
Speaker 2: So just awesome. They were awesome. I love them. I
Speaker 2: loved Drake Mae.
Speaker 3: No. It was great, but great win.
Speaker 2: Good for us, very good for us. By the way.
Speaker 1: The one thing I want to say, because we talked
Speaker 1: about Dylan Gabriel after that, after that three for three start,
Speaker 1: I think he had like nineteen total yards or something
Speaker 1: like that. It was really it was insane after the
Speaker 1: first drive he was he was after the first drive,
Speaker 1: nineteen plays, forty three yards after starting six for seventy
Speaker 1: in the first half. So good for us, good for
Speaker 1: the Patriots, New York Football Giants crushing. I mean, this
Speaker 1: is our last one in We were sort of we
Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. We took out the Ravens
Speaker 1: obviously because of all the Lamar stuff, and we're gonna
Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that. We didn't buy out of it,
Speaker 1: and we actually said on the show we're sticking with it,
Speaker 1: but we did. We decided not to put into the contest,
Speaker 1: like we decided to go with this one because of
Speaker 1: injuries to the eat goals across the you know, Aj Brown,
Speaker 1: plus in the secondary, plus on the defensive line and
Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Eagles, and then Camp Scataboo,
Speaker 1: Like it kind of took the air out for me.
Speaker 1: It felt like after that it was a little bit
Speaker 1: of a dead bet.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I watched every second of that game.
Speaker 2: The refs were just terrible, like terrible.
Speaker 3: The game flipped in my opinion, on that touch push,
Speaker 3: which yes, the announcer said, this isn't the end zone.
Speaker 3: There should not be. If you reach forward with the
Speaker 3: ball and you are still that's momentum. You're moving forward,
Speaker 3: your hands are moving forward with the ball, it can
Speaker 3: get punched out like you're not down and your momentums
Speaker 3: not stop. So that was that game of the Saints game.
Speaker 3: The Saints had a really lucky like the Bucks had
Speaker 3: a touchdown on a rain on whistle blue, so they
Speaker 3: brought the Bucks back.
Speaker 1: Ran into the end zone three different times today on
Speaker 1: three different plays, all.
Speaker 2: Of which the whistle blew before the play.
Speaker 3: Was just ridiculous though, like it's same as you again,
Speaker 3: like these refs need to swallow these whistles, Like we
Speaker 3: can plain all the time, but it is ridiculous. So
Speaker 3: that was absurd, Like just every little thing fell get
Speaker 3: wet again.
Speaker 1: Just to such a scene that was in the first half.
Speaker 1: The game was still very cool. Seven the Sakoon Barclay
Speaker 1: had that sixty five yard run and the Giants went
Speaker 1: right back down and scored. They looked fantastic, like Jackson
Speaker 1: Dart was slinging the ball and like looked really comfortable
Speaker 1: and their defense was playing well, and they get that
Speaker 1: fumble cave on Thibodeau on Jalen Hurts and the rest
Speaker 1: blue the whistle and the Eagles score touched on after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like there's still a much opportunities to
Speaker 3: where the Giants were in the game, like they had
Speaker 3: a long touchdown got called back, so the guy guy
Speaker 3: pushed off when they're clearly hand fighting. It just you're
Speaker 3: gonna have games that just go against you like that
Speaker 3: with the reps, like we just couldn't get any calls
Speaker 3: our way. All the key moments went the other way.
Speaker 3: And once again Jalen her it's playing really well, like
Speaker 3: he just killed us in this game, like a couple
Speaker 3: of big throws where it's like he's just when he's
Speaker 3: on there, it doesn't matter. There's no Aj Brown in
Speaker 3: that type of game. Like when he was on he
Speaker 3: was sitting guys deep all over the field. Like we
Speaker 3: talked about the run game, you know, Saquon gets hurt,
Speaker 3: the backup comes in, tanks Bigsby, and I think he
Speaker 3: rushes for one hundred yards. So yeah, the Giants just
Speaker 3: got rolled, bad bet and just brutal on a day
Speaker 3: where like we've talked about, we got pretty much every
Speaker 3: game right, one of the games we put in. Like
Speaker 3: I think we both agree looking back, why do we
Speaker 3: not just put the Colts and over the Giants or
Speaker 3: whatever it may be? Those always those always hurt you.
Speaker 3: Where you know, kind of hated the Giants and we
Speaker 3: ended up on it anyway and we got burned.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that one was really disappointing. There was a play
Speaker 1: the Giants were keeping it close. They were down early
Speaker 1: in the fourth. They're down twenty four to thirteen. Eagles
Speaker 1: have a second and third, Brian Burns had just gotten
Speaker 1: a second sack in the game.
Speaker 2: They give up a thirty one yard run to Tank Bixby.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the fact, not even Saquon like that was
Speaker 1: a backbreaker. And then even right after that they scored
Speaker 1: a touchdown. It then even down thirty one thirteen because
Speaker 1: it's a seven and a half point spread, the back
Speaker 1: door sort of always open, right, and the Giants nearly
Speaker 1: made it close. You're talking about that long touchdown pass
Speaker 1: from Jackson Dart.
Speaker 2: I can't remember who the receiver was. It was a
Speaker 2: great play.
Speaker 1: It was total hand fighting all the way down the field,
Speaker 1: and the refs called the pass interference OPI called it back.
Speaker 2: That's sort of the ballgame. Brian day Ball at that point.
Speaker 1: Was so apoplectic, like and like it was so funny
Speaker 1: because he didn't know what to do, and he just
Speaker 1: took his headphones and just shoved him on top of
Speaker 1: his head as hard as he couldn't look like they
Speaker 1: were like squeezing his face, Like his face was so
Speaker 1: puffy and red and angry and he's just squeezing the headphones.
Speaker 2: He was so mad. I do wonder are the rest
Speaker 2: going to have to do?
Speaker 1: So, like, is there going to be a call from
Speaker 1: the league about these whistles because it happened in a
Speaker 1: few different games.
Speaker 2: It happened.
Speaker 1: It happened in the Cowboys game, in the Cowboys Broncos
Speaker 1: game as well, So that was and it's weird that
Speaker 1: it happened multiple times today and everybody was noticing it.
Speaker 1: So that's going to have to be I think that's
Speaker 1: going to be a conversation from the league this week.
Speaker 3: I still like the idea that now that New York
Speaker 3: is involved and we're so openly about New York making
Speaker 3: calls for the refs, Yeah, give them one universal challenge
Speaker 3: every coach gets to make that they challenge a call
Speaker 3: on the field no matter what the rule is, whatever
Speaker 3: it is, that it can be a return, which I'm
Speaker 3: talking like fast interference, those type of plays where the
Speaker 3: westle blew a play dead like it's the momentum all
Speaker 3: of it. It just changes so much dramatically. I remember
Speaker 3: they tried having that challenge with the pis a couple
Speaker 3: of years ago after that Ram Saints game, and it
Speaker 3: didn't work because it was the refs working in collusion
Speaker 3: to get rid of the rule because they were just
Speaker 3: so mad. I think it was like a overturn rate.
Speaker 3: It was like dead on arrivals. So they got to
Speaker 3: figure out something. It just if New York is going
Speaker 3: to be involved, let's just get it right, like we
Speaker 3: always say, no one would complain if we just got
Speaker 3: it right, And that's that's all. At the end of
Speaker 3: that we want, like it's it cleans up a lot
Speaker 3: of the game. When the refs are changing the game
Speaker 3: so much, it should just one challenge a game, that's
Speaker 3: all we ask. Where it can challenge one call on
Speaker 3: the field.
Speaker 1: I don't know why you limited to a challenge. I
Speaker 1: think they should expand the rule of what can be
Speaker 1: overturned by the officials. And they've already.
Speaker 3: We're not killing the play, like I think that's you're
Speaker 3: about to say, a whistle killing the play is just brew.
Speaker 2: That's what I mean.
Speaker 1: So the whistle shouldn't be if well. There were also
Speaker 1: a couple times where there was no whistle blown that
Speaker 1: anyone could hear like they were running. They were running
Speaker 1: the plays back in real speed without any other audio,
Speaker 1: and there were no whistles, and they're calling the play
Speaker 1: was dead off of a whistle. So why do they
Speaker 1: have to have a universal one time challenge on plays
Speaker 1: where the whistle shouldn't be blown, wherefore progress isn't stopped,
Speaker 1: where the officials can then overturn it in the same
Speaker 1: way they can do with a turnover. So that's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is like, if there's a question, let that
Speaker 1: be a challengeable play, or let that be something that
Speaker 1: is reviewed an instant review from New York.
Speaker 2: That's what I think they should do.
Speaker 1: San Francisco at Houston, Simon says, Look, we loved it
Speaker 1: all week and we were not sort of dissuay by
Speaker 1: Houston flipping and flopping a little bit from one point
Speaker 1: dog to one point favorite, then getting up to two
Speaker 1: and a half. We sat on the show this morning,
Speaker 1: we liked it up to two and a half or
Speaker 1: really up to three. But boy man, for a game
Speaker 1: they completely and totally dominated from the get go. They
Speaker 1: made every effort to let the Niners sneak in the
Speaker 1: back door on this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and we joke it's it's always scary when a team,
Speaker 3: you know, in the first half has three hundred yards,
Speaker 3: has the ball for what was they say, thirty minutes
Speaker 3: or something insane and they give up that late touchdown.
Speaker 3: Insane throw by Mac Jones, insane little window to kill again.
Speaker 3: I know you're not the biggest Mac Jones fans. I
Speaker 3: can't get over some of the flaer as a kid
Speaker 3: makes where it's like he is getting pumbled in that game.
Speaker 3: He's getting hit every play, and like you said, we
Speaker 3: were never out of it, like he kept us. He
Speaker 3: made that we had to watch that game unto the
Speaker 3: fourth quarter, which is just ridiculous. Mean, you should have
Speaker 3: been able to turn that game off at half because
Speaker 3: Houston dominated that much. But yeah, they're just there's something
Speaker 3: up with Houston them just not finishing in the red zone.
Speaker 3: And you know, it's it's hard to get mad at
Speaker 3: a quarterback that's number one, number two receiver or out
Speaker 3: of the game like he's thrown to ye kid Higgins
Speaker 3: who's a rookie, and you know it's just not ideal. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's like and it worked, like we said, though
Speaker 3: if if he doesn't have pressure in his face, all
Speaker 3: the injuries to foynineers have had, they're just their defense
Speaker 3: as a shell. It's like they don't give you so much.
Speaker 3: So amazing spot, unique spot for Houston. And yeah, like
Speaker 3: you know, Tuesday when we talked about it, I gave
Speaker 3: it on the basis of this is gonna be a
Speaker 3: pro team appro spot. The public will build over the
Speaker 3: forty nine ers, And as the week went along, you
Speaker 3: saw the number kept moving, like you said, opened as
Speaker 3: a dog, closed minus two, minus two and a half.
Speaker 3: So those are those are the nice, nice times to
Speaker 3: be a pro because it's like it feels like you're
Speaker 3: the smart guy in the room because like again, everyone
Speaker 3: I knew was like trying to tell me how good
Speaker 3: this matchup is for their forty nine ers, and it's
Speaker 3: just like this Texas team, they're not with their record
Speaker 3: shows and we saw that in the game. So the
Speaker 3: Colts have pretty much ended their Texas season, I guess divisionally,
Speaker 3: but Texas all have a chance, got that wild card.
Speaker 3: It's not they're not going to give up. They're a
Speaker 3: good defensive team, they got weapons, so big, big win
Speaker 3: for them. Twenty six fifteen. They needed that type of win.
Speaker 1: The Bears and the Texans. And we're going to get
Speaker 1: to the Bears and the Ravens in a minute. But
Speaker 1: had similar first quarters. As I was making my notes,
Speaker 1: the Texans dominated, completely dominated. They had just in the
Speaker 1: first quarter they had one hundred and thirty eight yards
Speaker 1: to the Niners nineteen twenty three plays to the Niners, four,
Speaker 1: six first downs to the Niners zero, and they had
Speaker 1: the ball for thirteen minutes and nineteen seconds of the
Speaker 1: fifteen minutes in the first quarter, and they were only
Speaker 1: up six to nothing. Yeah, and at least like they
Speaker 1: did continue to dominate. They got up thirteen nothing, they
Speaker 1: got up sixteen nothing, and then they had sort of
Speaker 1: a catastrophic final fifty one seconds. They let Brian Robinson
Speaker 1: run the ball back a kick off after they won
Speaker 1: up sixteen nothing. They let him run it back to
Speaker 1: about the fifty and they had a face mask and
Speaker 1: then Mac Jones got the first first down of the
Speaker 1: first half for the Niners. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 1: they're in the end zone at sixteen to seven. They
Speaker 1: were getting the ball back to start the second half.
Speaker 1: Because the Texans defense is so good. This year they
Speaker 1: were to stop them and then they were able to
Speaker 1: actually score to go up twenty three to seven.
Speaker 2: But man like it.
Speaker 1: Was, it was the lack of pressure that allowed the
Speaker 1: Texans to continue to drive the ball down the field.
Speaker 1: We talked about it. You just mentioned it to put
Speaker 1: a stat against it. They only pressured the quarterback on
Speaker 1: nineteen percent of his forty plus dropbacks today. That was
Speaker 1: to us the key to the game and why we
Speaker 1: were betting it. We just didn't think the Niners, as
Speaker 1: much as we love Sala, they didn't have the horses
Speaker 1: to really get to the quarterback and make a difference
Speaker 1: for them.
Speaker 2: But wow, like the thing that I want to know,
Speaker 2: I want your take on this. CJ.
Speaker 1: Stroud had three hundred yards passing his issue and as
Speaker 1: the game went on, he started to throw the ball
Speaker 1: downfield more and more. You know, the first few drives
Speaker 1: classic CJ. Five yard dump, five yard dump inaccurate, bad screen.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It looked like it was going to be a frustrating day.
Speaker 1: They started to get better. They started to convert on
Speaker 1: third downs schematically, Did we see anything in this game
Speaker 1: that we can take forward as we think about the
Speaker 1: Texans because they have such a good defense. Did we
Speaker 1: see anything that could help complement this defense?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I think they're gonna be a borderline
Speaker 3: playoff team, which you're the Texans. That's the most you
Speaker 3: can ask for. You don't. Coming in the year you
Speaker 3: I greted them as one of the worst offensive lines
Speaker 3: in all football. So I remember we joked people were
Speaker 3: just taking them down the division because it's like everyone
Speaker 3: else in the division is a joke, and that's the
Speaker 3: view of it. It's like no one thought this was
Speaker 3: gonna be a good team, a contender. They're just not
Speaker 3: built right. So for me, it's just keep approving through
Speaker 3: the draft of the years. But like, no, watching them today,
Speaker 3: there's just I just can't see them challenging the Colts
Speaker 3: for this division. They just you watch the Colts and
Speaker 3: you watch Houston. It's two totally different worlds. One just
Speaker 3: looks like I'm machine offensively, totally in rhythm. Like you said,
Speaker 3: everything's hard for CJ in this offense. Even on days
Speaker 3: like today where the run game felt like it was
Speaker 3: getting seven yards per carry for Houston, still felt like
Speaker 3: CJM miss throws and it was tough at points for him.
Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I'm confident in them to be
Speaker 3: a playoff team potentially, but not confident in them to
Speaker 3: be one of the better teams in all football.
Speaker 1: Houston had four hundred and seventy five yards. That was
Speaker 1: more than twice as many as the forty nine Ers,
Speaker 1: who had two hundred and twenty three. They had seventy
Speaker 1: five total plays. The Niners only had forty four. So
Speaker 1: what does that tell you.
Speaker 2: About your boy Mac Jones?
Speaker 1: That he was able to make this as close as
Speaker 1: it was, and like he basically did it in three drives.
Speaker 1: He had like three good drives then enabled us to
Speaker 1: have to sweat in like the only game we really had.
Speaker 2: To sweat today.
Speaker 1: So good on Mac. He's not going to be the starter,
Speaker 1: but good on Mac. Dallas at Denver Denver minus three
Speaker 1: and a half. This was Chad's choice.
Speaker 2: Our biggest fear.
Speaker 1: Of betting this game was bo Nix. And you asked
Speaker 1: me before we came on the air, what did I
Speaker 1: think when I saw that play. I'm going to tell
Speaker 1: you that true. The first pick, the first pick, that's right,
Speaker 1: the first pick from Bonnicks on the first drop. I
Speaker 1: think it was the third play of the game. I
Speaker 1: was so hungry at that point, Simon, after the early games,
Speaker 1: and that Broncos game started so much later that I
Speaker 1: hadn't turned over to multiview yet.
Speaker 2: I got up and I went.
Speaker 1: I got myself some carrot sticks, and so I missed
Speaker 1: the first pick. So when I got to that game,
Speaker 1: the Cowboys were scoring a field goal, and so I
Speaker 1: only saw the good stuff.
Speaker 2: So if I had seen that.
Speaker 1: First play, I probably would have pulled a Brian dayball,
Speaker 1: like I would have been apoplectic. But because I didn't
Speaker 1: have to see it, I felt great the whole day
Speaker 1: because they kind of dominated.
Speaker 3: I was thinking of you last week when we had
Speaker 3: that really bad night. Obviously we went two and three
Speaker 3: with Houston loss for us. So it's like one in
Speaker 3: the morning, and I thought of you because I had
Speaker 3: a bowl of Count Chocula. Do you know what Count
Speaker 3: Chocola is?
Speaker 2: I know what Count chocolate is, all right.
Speaker 3: It's one of the last things remaining on this planet
Speaker 3: that tastes like the nineties. It tastes like disappointment and plastic.
Speaker 2: It tastes like the seventies, dude.
Speaker 3: And they haven't changed the rest of the guy blossom,
Speaker 3: but it is just terrible for you when I eat it.
Speaker 3: It's a true depressing meal. Uh, it's only only to
Speaker 3: get it in this Halloween type of thing. And I
Speaker 3: was thinking, if Chad ate this bowl of cereal, he
Speaker 3: would combust. I feel like you would just explode.
Speaker 2: I would turn into Dracula in the sunlight.
Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, loove, but no, it's uh yeah, it's this
Speaker 3: is the type of game that we thought exactly was
Speaker 3: going to be cheat this Broncos game Like that's as
Speaker 3: a handicapper. That's why today has been so fun. All
Speaker 3: these games effect for the most part we talked about
Speaker 3: gone these ways and just Deck incredibly talented. But you
Speaker 3: saw that offensive line get him off his spot. He
Speaker 3: had multiple turnovers on the flip side. Next other than
Speaker 3: that one turn played against air, he just was passing.
Speaker 3: It was like a seven on seven.
Speaker 2: It was a practice game.
Speaker 3: Yeah, the run game picking up ten yards a clip.
Speaker 3: You know, the Cowboys they're making a publicly know right,
Speaker 3: they're trying to get mex crowds. They're trying to get
Speaker 3: a Trey Hendricks. You're they're three or four guys on
Speaker 3: that line away from having a defensive line. So yeah,
Speaker 3: Dallas is gonna be a fun team. They're gonna somehow
Speaker 3: maybe be a playoff team. But in these type of games,
Speaker 3: like I feel like we nailed it, where if you
Speaker 3: have an offensive scheme at like Sean Payton, and you
Speaker 3: have a defense and can get pressure with four or
Speaker 3: five guys, that's gonna be Dallas's weakness if they just
Speaker 3: faced a jugging out offense like themselves and they can't
Speaker 3: put up the points themselves because they just can't keep
Speaker 3: up with all the pressure in Deck's face. So uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: great Reid, get great Beck because a lot of pros,
Speaker 3: a lot of guys talking love for Dallas this week,
Speaker 3: So uh glad we stuck with that one and never
Speaker 3: never wavered minus three and a half.
Speaker 1: We never wavered. And I will tell you right now
Speaker 1: your support for this that meant everything to me, not
Speaker 1: even kidding like you loved it.
Speaker 2: You kept saying you loved it.
Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, well we're fight over on Tuesday,
Speaker 3: not fighting. It was like both of us won day
Speaker 3: and you took it. I took another game.
Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it landed how we thought, Yeah, great
Speaker 1: would land And if the Broncos just changed their uniforms
Speaker 1: to those old school blue helmets and those jerseys.
Speaker 2: Just do it. It would be great.
Speaker 1: I love those unis. They look fantastic, they play fantastic.
Speaker 1: It's awesome.
Speaker 2: Good for us. Those were the four games we had
Speaker 2: on the day.
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Speaker 2: All right, so Chicago Baltimore.
Speaker 1: Baltimore was a six and a half point favorite in
Speaker 1: this game. Obviously massive controversy. We covered it this morning.
Speaker 1: Had a little rant the arrogance, stupidity, obfuscation by John
Speaker 1: Harbaugh in a week in which the biggest betting scandal
Speaker 1: since legalization had taken place with the NBA and Terry
Speaker 1: Rozier and Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones to have the
Speaker 1: audacity and stupidity to mess around with the injury report
Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson, maybe he's living in a hole, maybe
Speaker 1: he hasn't come out of his film room, but you
Speaker 1: got to be self aware enough to know the situation
Speaker 1: with your league and how its relationship with operators has
Speaker 1: changed the way gambling is viewed and the way the
Speaker 1: integrity of the games reviewed. The fact that this happened,
Speaker 1: and I know the NFL has said they're going to investigate,
Speaker 1: was just, honest to god idiocy. You and I decided
Speaker 1: we were going to stick with the Ravens at six
Speaker 1: and a half, and that was partially because we liked
Speaker 1: Tyron Huntley better than Cooper Rush. So that worked out really,
Speaker 1: really well. I have some thoughts on the Bears, but
Speaker 1: I want to get your take on how you were
Speaker 1: feeling about this game as it started.
Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly didn't waiver though, because it was s newpuntling
Speaker 3: and it's like if it was you know, a different
Speaker 3: scenario where it's a quarterback. I don't trust and I've
Speaker 3: made it a lot and clear about that. I just
Speaker 3: do not like Cooper Rush in this offense. I would
Speaker 3: add to a bio all my positions. It would have
Speaker 3: been an absolute nightmare. But got really lucky, didn't budge
Speaker 3: even though the line had moved, what four points against US?
Speaker 3: Five points against US?
Speaker 1: Yeah, the seven down to two and then it went
Speaker 1: back up. And by the way, I meant Tyler Huntley,
Speaker 1: not Tyron Huntley. Just call them snoop you want to
Speaker 1: be called snoop snoop, snoop hop.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the exact game though of you just
Speaker 3: trust the spot and the numbers, and if you can
Speaker 3: lie to yourself about the quarterback position being semi decent,
Speaker 3: it was an automatic spot for this Ravens team. We
Speaker 3: went through all the trends, everything like that. Just the Browns,
Speaker 3: I mean the Bears, they were over achievers walking into
Speaker 3: an absolute deaf trap. So, and you're gonna have feelings
Speaker 3: about Kayleb Williams and a lot of things that went
Speaker 3: wrong with that offense today. They were never gonna win.
Speaker 3: You guys win this this type of game. You guys
Speaker 3: go in there, you win, like play well and win
Speaker 3: this game outright, you got to start taking them serious
Speaker 3: as a contender in the division, Like, this is not
Speaker 3: a wildcard team, this is a legit team going on
Speaker 3: the road in a really tough environment against the most
Speaker 3: desperate team in football, Ravens fair to say like they
Speaker 3: lose this, oh my god. So yeah, just just a
Speaker 3: nightmare spot for the Bears. I'm just so happy for
Speaker 3: our fans that it covered, because it's like, nothing is
Speaker 3: more sickening than us getting a number hitting it, giving
Speaker 3: it out on the show and then, like you said,
Speaker 3: feel like we were misguided and lied to it and
Speaker 3: now we look like idiots because an organization kind of
Speaker 3: pulled the rug from Ethos. So so happy it came through.
Speaker 3: But my god, when that game first started, I was like,
Speaker 3: like you said, Bears were playing so well to start
Speaker 3: the game. Why did we not tell people to get
Speaker 3: out of this position? My god? But yeah, like we said,
Speaker 3: as the game went along, you saw it's just the
Speaker 3: Ravens defense even showed up, the run game showed up.
Speaker 3: It just all clicked today for that Ravens team.
Speaker 1: Well, look, they did some of the things that we
Speaker 1: talked about. Were they going to bring Kyle Hamilton into
Speaker 1: the box to improve their rush defense. Yes, they did
Speaker 1: that often where they going to lean and Derreck Henry
Speaker 1: and the Russian game. And after that first quarter, the
Speaker 1: Bears went down the field pretty easily, but they only
Speaker 1: got two field goals, and you know there were That's
Speaker 1: sort of the difference because in the first drive of
Speaker 1: the second quarter, the Ravens just run the ball down
Speaker 1: the field with ease. Derrick Henry makes everything look like
Speaker 1: they are just he's sort of just dragging guys behind him.
Speaker 2: And like after that, the Bears got.
Speaker 1: Unscripted and they didn't know what they were doing anymore.
Speaker 1: And one of the questions and comments from one of
Speaker 1: the viewers that's watching right now live is does Caleb
Speaker 1: Williams have a little bit of that Trevor Lawrence in him?
Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna.
Speaker 1: Lie, That's exactly what I thought today. If you look
Speaker 1: at Trevor Lawrence's stats, We've talked about this so often
Speaker 1: on the show.
Speaker 2: He looks like he's a good quarterback. He looks like he's.
Speaker 1: Earned the guaranteed contract, and he's continued, you need to climb.
Speaker 1: If you watch the games, you see the bad decisions,
Speaker 1: you see the miss throws.
Speaker 2: You see the mistakes, you see.
Speaker 1: The things that turn them from having a chance in
Speaker 1: a game to no longer being in the game. And
Speaker 1: we saw that from Caleb today multiple times, and he
Speaker 1: is normally not a guy who throws picks. And then,
Speaker 1: of course Jim Harbaugh. I thought the John Harbaugh made
Speaker 1: a very good decision. And it was fourth and five
Speaker 1: late in the game. They're up twenty three sixteen, They're
Speaker 1: in Bears territory. They could go for it, they could
Speaker 1: try to kick a field goal. Instead, they took the
Speaker 1: five yards. They pinned the Bears back. Caleb throws an
Speaker 1: interception deep in his end zone. The Ravens then score
Speaker 1: a touchdown on the following series, and that to me
Speaker 1: kind of was indicative of what you get from Caleb,
Speaker 1: which is and trevoralence, magical throws generally good stats, not
Speaker 1: the kind of plays that help you win the game consistently.
Speaker 1: That was my take on this game. And also this
Speaker 1: defense is terrible, truly terrible. Dennis Allen is a terrible coach,
Speaker 1: irresponsible the way he coached this team to not be
Speaker 1: ready for the way the Ravens are going to play
Speaker 1: this game. The only thing that usually brings me joy
Speaker 1: when the Bears aren't doing well is watching Matt Eberflu's
Speaker 1: coach in a game in which I have bet against him.
Speaker 1: I couldn't even take Joey and Eberflues today because his
Speaker 1: team is so banged up he had no shot to
Speaker 1: stop the Broncos. So instead, I got no joy from
Speaker 1: this game other than the fact we covered. But as
Speaker 1: a Bears fan, As a Bears fan, I want you
Speaker 1: to ask me what I texted to my son today
Speaker 1: after the game.
Speaker 3: Just tell us and the cats and the train them
Speaker 3: and then when you're coming home, Na, don't don't?
Speaker 2: I said.
Speaker 1: At some point during this game, I asked myself what
Speaker 1: would it be like if I decided I.
Speaker 2: Was no longer a Bears fan?
Speaker 1: What would I what would I honestly gain in my life?
Speaker 1: What would I lose in my life?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 1: How would my Sundays be different? How would my week
Speaker 1: be different? How would I think?
Speaker 2: You know? It's like when you're a fan, you're a
Speaker 2: fan of the Eagles.
Speaker 1: We're all fan of like, we love football, We're invested
Speaker 1: in these teams, not like it doesn't ruin our lives,
Speaker 1: but it makes me sadder than happier and this team
Speaker 1: just makes me sad and frustrated.
Speaker 3: Let me counter some of your points about my dear
Speaker 3: friend Caleb Williams. Right, we know where you stay at,
Speaker 3: Killer Williams, Chad, you let it chose Troy Aikman over them.
Speaker 3: You're just me and all the Bears fans have shunned you.
Speaker 2: And by the way, last week, it couldn't have been happier.
Speaker 2: He was enjoying the game.
Speaker 1: He was talking about his Hammys and pulling is getting
Speaker 1: pulled muscles on the treadmill, and like he was, he
Speaker 1: was joyous last week.
Speaker 3: Well, we're all ready, as the actual Bars fan on
Speaker 3: this show. We're ready for you to walk away from
Speaker 3: this team. And Caleb Williams, it's I told you it's
Speaker 3: gonna be ugly. It's gonna be bumpy, man. He's learning
Speaker 3: an incredibly complex offense and he's a number one pick.
Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest here on this show and
Speaker 3: run through all the number one picks of the last
Speaker 3: twenty five years. It's not a beauty. It's not a
Speaker 3: pretty list. Chat it's an ugly list where Peyton Manning
Speaker 3: worked out it's a bunch of just shit and turns
Speaker 3: there fourth. I mean, Joe Burrow got to a super
Speaker 3: Bowl that was fun. Number one pick Stafford, he won
Speaker 3: one that was fun for drafted Stafford.
Speaker 2: You're naming great players, Stafford.
Speaker 3: I know that.
Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield.
Speaker 3: Like out, dare you come on? I'm just saying it,
Speaker 3: but like like it took those guys years. You know
Speaker 3: what I mean. It took Jared Goff and Baker years
Speaker 3: to get right. I just take time with Caleb. I'm
Speaker 3: with you, like he's twenty three though. I just he
Speaker 3: looks like an idiot. He plays like an idiot. It's
Speaker 3: he's so young, the league is so hard. He just
Speaker 3: he has so many bad habits. He needs to get
Speaker 3: beat out of them. And that's what you have the
Speaker 3: perfect You have a psychopath as a head coach. He
Speaker 3: will beat these things out of him over time. And
Speaker 3: if it doesn't work again, you have a psychopath a
Speaker 3: head coach. He will move on from Caleb Williams. You
Speaker 3: have no worries out of you, So I get it.
Speaker 3: You want to be upset and stuff like that. Like
Speaker 3: I I see these plays too, and you're just like, dude,
Speaker 3: get rid of get the bolldy of your hand. Stop
Speaker 3: holding on to it so long. It's never It never
Speaker 3: works out for him when he holds onto the ball
Speaker 3: and try to improvise. So we'll see. I still believe
Speaker 3: in the talent. Like you said, he still makes throws
Speaker 3: every now and then when he does push the ball
Speaker 3: forward with his feet, when he does run forward, not backwards,
Speaker 3: he actually does make good plays with his feet when
Speaker 3: he's not going backwards. So I get where're coming from, brother,
Speaker 3: but just give them time. This offense is complex. I
Speaker 3: just this was a horrible spot for the Bears. They
Speaker 3: were doing before the game even started.
Speaker 1: I've never been happier to have Caleb Balloons as my
Speaker 1: quarterback then having the Ravens minus six and a half
Speaker 1: when they're up thirty to sixteen with thirty seconds left
Speaker 1: and the Bears try to run a sneak, they can't
Speaker 1: get in and so they have to rush the final play,
Speaker 1: and you know that the play design clearly calls for
Speaker 1: some kind of quick pass, and Caleb doesn't release the
Speaker 1: ball when he's supposed to and just sort of sidearm
Speaker 1: flings it out of the back of the end zone.
Speaker 1: So that way there's no chance, there's no risk that
Speaker 1: they're going to go for a two point conversion and
Speaker 1: cover the six and a half. That's when I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not sweating this right now because there's no way
Speaker 1: the Bears, no timeouts are gonna be able to unpack
Speaker 1: this one literally from the offensive line back into the backfield.
Speaker 2: So you know, that's just how I feel.
Speaker 1: I'm glad we wont I feel we got better's justice today.
Speaker 1: You know that's what we got. We got better justice.
Speaker 1: Good for Snoop Puntley. I got a little bit more
Speaker 1: about him later in the show. Quickly, I just want
Speaker 1: to say on Tampa Bay and New Orleans, because we're
Speaker 1: done talking about the Saints, they're not a wise guy team.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about them being a wise
Speaker 1: guy team. We saw the end of Spencer Rattler today.
Speaker 1: Fumble on the first series, pick six from his own
Speaker 1: two yard line to a defensive lineman. He got benched
Speaker 1: for Tyler Shuck. Tyler shocked through interception on his first series.
Speaker 1: Anchwine Winfield was in the end zone more than the
Speaker 1: Saints were. Thank freaking god, we didn't sucker ourselves here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but another team like again I know you hate
Speaker 3: them and you're saying that this is a not a
Speaker 3: sharp team, but what are you gonna do when you
Speaker 3: have receivers fumbling the ball as well? Like it just there,
Speaker 3: Like you said, they're a bad team that keep shooting
Speaker 3: themselves on the foot. It was seven three at half,
Speaker 3: and the only seven that Tampa scored was that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it's like, I get it, I get what you're saying,
Speaker 3: like you hate him, but there is a reason people
Speaker 3: are betting this scene. They're not that terrible. It's just
Speaker 3: they're like Tennessee, everything that could go wrong goes wrong
Speaker 3: for them. They're just these these bad teams of football
Speaker 3: now are just so bad and for them to cover
Speaker 3: like the Jets, they need ten miracles in a row.
Speaker 3: It's like it's just a weird thing right now, these
Speaker 3: teams that are really bad and the Bucks they they
Speaker 3: should like I know you said you thought this was
Speaker 3: gonna be easier of Ron for Baker. I told you,
Speaker 3: just Baker's off right now, he's injured. They're banking.
Speaker 2: It wasn't easy. It was not easy.
Speaker 3: No, that like he I think one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: yards if I'm not mistaken, is what he had passing
Speaker 3: like just Baker was off today, but the Saints gave
Speaker 3: them five turnovers and Baker will kill you every time
Speaker 3: with that. He won't he won't make the turnover. You'll
Speaker 3: just have his off day, not make the risky throws.
Speaker 3: And uh, you know, even their running game, they only
Speaker 3: averaged like three yards of carry or whatever, it was
Speaker 3: three point two yards. Yeah, so the Bucks bad spot.
Speaker 3: They're just this is what I love about good teams.
Speaker 3: They showed up in other areas, which was their defense,
Speaker 3: and they dominated. Like like you said, Spencer Rattler looks
Speaker 3: like he's about he's already out of the league. Like
Speaker 3: I gave him all this praise two weeks ago. He
Speaker 3: is horrible. These last two weeks just bad reads. And
Speaker 3: uh yeah it's uh it's trade. The trade deadline's coming up, Saints.
Speaker 3: You have some really good veteran pieces. You shouldn't move them.
Speaker 2: On last game. I want to talk about We've got
Speaker 2: to get to it. The New York Jets. What did
Speaker 2: we say on Tuesday?
Speaker 1: What did we say on Tuesday?
Speaker 2: Take the Jets money line?
Speaker 1: Start spreading the new we said take the Jets money line?
Speaker 2: Boy, did they make us look good. They worked hard
Speaker 2: at it. They had to score.
Speaker 1: Breese Hall had to score three touchdowns in the fourth quarter,
Speaker 1: including a touchdown pass on a halfback option with one
Speaker 1: minute and fifty four seconds left in this game, for
Speaker 1: the Jets to win thirty nine thirty eight.
Speaker 3: Oh.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the headlines in the New York Post.
Speaker 1: I can't wait for the press conference this week with
Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, who's gonna make it sound like he's a genius.
Speaker 1: Justin Fields thrown for two forty five. That's about twenty
Speaker 1: five percent of all the passing yards he's thrown for
Speaker 1: this year. Magnificent, magnificent.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And we definitely talked about on that Tuesday show
Speaker 3: that at that point Joe Flacco, if you bet against him,
Speaker 3: you could have got plus two to seventy on the
Speaker 3: money line with that Jets team, and you know, before
Speaker 3: kick That's why I love watching the market, because it's
Speaker 3: just interest. Since how the money dictates the work and
Speaker 3: how it moves. It closed up plus two to fifteen
Speaker 3: that money line. Yeah, So it went from on Tuesday
Speaker 3: plus two seventy to close at plus two fifteen. Some
Speaker 3: books close with them at plus five and a half
Speaker 3: that Jets team. Yeah, so I mean, geez talking about
Speaker 3: the ultimate sweat, like you needed so many things to
Speaker 3: go your way to cover that number, and not even
Speaker 3: just cover it, you went outright. It's why we talk
Speaker 3: about how stupid football can be, why we love betting
Speaker 3: these dogs, and this year it's just it's just not
Speaker 3: the pressing. You're sad, but it is in a sense that,
Speaker 3: like I don't bet the money line around robin dogs
Speaker 3: like I used to. I'm really heavy to bet an
Speaker 3: ound money line around Robin favorites because it's what cash is.
Speaker 3: And again, like this with the Jets happen not every
Speaker 3: week but every other. It felt like, now just you
Speaker 3: don't get these stupid upsets like this, and like this
Speaker 3: week it was all chalk. There was this upset, Miami's upset.
Speaker 3: Other than that, it was all favorite like it just
Speaker 3: all favorites outright. So I just I love these type
Speaker 3: of games. You can go back and watch it a
Speaker 3: thousand times, like they kept showing the fans and the
Speaker 3: stansy since you fans, and they knew like we all
Speaker 3: did at home, that it was over. Even when Joe
Speaker 3: Flacker got the ball back, still up six it's just
Speaker 3: football is the best that way. You can just you
Speaker 3: just you've lived it so many times you know it's
Speaker 3: gonna happen and doesn't matter what you do, you can't
Speaker 3: stop it. Like we all knew it was coming, so
Speaker 3: you know, all the fourth downs, all these like insanely
Speaker 3: random plays that worked with Justin fields today. Like you said,
Speaker 3: he passed the ball really well. And you know, in
Speaker 3: a week where his owner's throwing him under the bus,
Speaker 3: under the boss joke of an ownership, one of the
Speaker 3: worst owners in the league, for him to go out
Speaker 3: there win that type of game, thirty nine points on
Speaker 3: the road. Yeah, what a great, great feeling if you're
Speaker 3: a Jets team. But I don't know about their fans.
Speaker 3: They're probably upset, right, they don't want to win anything
Speaker 3: now they're one of them. But I think you'll be
Speaker 3: all right Jets fans.
Speaker 1: I still think I don't anticipate no a run.
Speaker 3: Like as a fan, you only get one or two
Speaker 3: a year. Jets through that bad That was That was
Speaker 3: a great all timer.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was truly truly fantastic.
Speaker 3: The Jets Denver they lost, I know it's England. They
Speaker 3: lost eleven to thirteen. Panthers. They lost thirteen to six.
Speaker 3: I mean they're not that like again we're joking Aaron
Speaker 3: Guns a back coach. They haven't given up on them.
Speaker 3: I give them credit for that. Three straight weeks one
Speaker 3: score games, they've been in it. They've been fighting in
Speaker 3: these close, ugly games. So my god is the Jets
Speaker 3: experienced terrible but huge win for them. Now they have
Speaker 3: a buye a week. Who knows, who knows what it
Speaker 3: could be for them going for They got Cleveland and
Speaker 3: New England coming up.
Speaker 1: Simon, it's time to play. Shame shame, shame.
Speaker 3: Shame on you, Shame on you NFL officials in that
Speaker 3: Giants game. I just I know it's lazy, but I
Speaker 3: just that's the only thing that really got me mad
Speaker 3: this week. Like every team we bet on, I thought
Speaker 3: they played well. Even Jackson Dart, I thought he played
Speaker 3: well enough to cover for us. So I really came
Speaker 3: be mad at the players, came him out, of the coaches,
Speaker 3: just the refs. They might have ruined me and Chad's
Speaker 3: perfect four oh day. What could have been? What could
Speaker 3: have been? I have really fun videos I'm ready to
Speaker 3: post for our perfect day, but got away for another week.
Speaker 3: We're not perfect yet.
Speaker 1: My shame, shame, shame. Pregame, no doubt about it.
Speaker 2: It was.
Speaker 1: It was John Harbaugh. But postgame, shame on you. Shame, shame, shame.
Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals defense against the New York Jets.
Speaker 3: Same same, same, shame shame on you.
Speaker 1: You were up thirty one sixteen against a winless team
Speaker 1: with a quarterback who had thrown for a combined ninety
Speaker 1: one yards in the previous two games, with two minutes
Speaker 1: left in the third quarter.
Speaker 2: You had this game wrapped up.
Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, you give up a touchdown and
Speaker 1: a two point conversion. You're up thirty one twenty four.
Speaker 1: Then you score, You're up thirty eight twenty four. Then
Speaker 1: you give up two more touchdowns. You give the Jets
Speaker 1: the opportunity to win their first game of the year
Speaker 1: on a half halfback option with a minute fifty four left. Brisol,
Speaker 1: before he might get traded, had three touchdowns in the
Speaker 1: fourth quarter. The Cincinnati Bengals defense gave up more than
Speaker 1: five hundred.
Speaker 2: Yards to the New York Jets.
Speaker 1: They gave up two hundred and sixty yards rushing to
Speaker 1: the New York Jets. They gave up two hundred and
Speaker 1: forty five yards passing to the New York Jets. This
Speaker 1: is an offense that had not been able to score
Speaker 1: more than a touchdown. You gave them three in the
Speaker 1: third quarter and you let them win the game. Shame, shame,
Speaker 1: shame on the Cincinnati Bengals. Love it, Simon, Who is
Speaker 1: your hero of the week.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it to my guy, James Cook. Interested
Speaker 3: news talk a little bit about it. I was heavily
Speaker 3: bet invested in the Buffalo Bills today. I know we
Speaker 3: didn't talk about much on the show, but it's people,
Speaker 3: don't I mean, I can talk. I guess more about
Speaker 3: me taking position on money lines. But heavily invested in
Speaker 3: that money line of that Bills team. And Chad knows
Speaker 3: a little funny story to him before the show is
Speaker 3: taking that check. Gave me eh why to my belove
Speaker 3: of the Bills before our show this morning. But I mean, Cook,
Speaker 3: something's up with Josh Allen. You cannot look right in
Speaker 3: this game at all? Yeah? Cook cooked? He did though
Speaker 3: like two sixteen two touchdowns. I think he broke off
Speaker 3: his sixty five yard run. Sixty four yard run just
Speaker 3: unreal when it's going with that Bill's running attack, and
Speaker 3: you know a game where Josh Allen didn't have it,
Speaker 3: he didn't need to because that running attack was so dominant.
Speaker 3: And yeah, I guess I could also go to Andy Dolton.
Speaker 3: He was also here in that game. But now Cook
Speaker 3: for me, just a guy that we always ask why
Speaker 3: he's not get more touches in this Bill's offense. And
Speaker 3: I think Joe Brady's coming around to it. It's like,
Speaker 3: I get you want to rotate guys in and out.
Speaker 3: Just let cook cook.
Speaker 2: Like Chad said, my hero of the week, how could
Speaker 2: it not be Snoop?
Speaker 1: Only this is a guy who got cut by the
Speaker 1: Ravens a year ago, played in Miami, went to Cleveland,
Speaker 1: got cut by Cleveland this year.
Speaker 2: You think the Browns might one a competent veteran quarterback
Speaker 2: who is careful with the ball and knows how to run.
Speaker 1: Then he's on the practice squad back with the Ravens
Speaker 1: and they prefer Cooper Rush, who after two games averaging
Speaker 1: six and a half points, they finally decide to go
Speaker 1: to Snoop Huntley.
Speaker 2: And what does the guy do? What does the guy do?
Speaker 1: Seventeen of twenty two for one p. Eighty five and
Speaker 1: one touchdown. He gains fifty three yards on the ground.
Speaker 1: He didn't make mistakes. He proved that he.
Speaker 2: Could move this game and this team down the field.
Speaker 1: He got them in the end zone, He got them
Speaker 1: out of challenging situations. He made passes on third and
Speaker 1: long when he had to make the right pass to
Speaker 1: the right position, to the right guy, to the right shoulder. Snoop,
Speaker 1: Huntley saved us from looking like bigger idiots than we
Speaker 1: normally look like on this show. For that, Snoop, you
Speaker 1: are the hero of the week. I'm sharper square all right.
Speaker 1: Simon says, you had Houston minus one Chad's choice. I
Speaker 1: had Denver minus three brass Balls Baltimore minus six and
Speaker 1: a half, rock and a hard place. We had New
Speaker 1: England minus six and a half.
Speaker 2: Sharp versus square.
Speaker 1: I had the New York Jets plus six and a half.
Speaker 1: You have Pittsburgh plus three and a half. Our favorite
Speaker 1: parlay Pats Bills, Denver Colts. We said, you know, cut
Speaker 1: it down to minus five and a half. We also
Speaker 1: got the Chiefs minus five and a half.
Speaker 2: So that's what four.
Speaker 1: And oh right now? And then the underdog parlay Steelers
Speaker 1: Jets Saints Giants bear, So that's a loser of a bet,
Speaker 1: Early Leans, Simon, And by the way, just a reminder,
Speaker 1: we are on Pittsburgh plus three and a half tonight.
Speaker 1: I know people in the check we're asking and we
Speaker 1: said off the top of the show, we've been on
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh plus three and a half the entire week, Simon,
Speaker 1: Early Leans, for you, I got some if you.
Speaker 3: I mean insanely fishy lines this week. People be incredibly
Speaker 3: careful because my opinion could change come Tuesday. But Chiefs
Speaker 3: are minus one and a half against the Buffalo Bills.
Speaker 3: That is a line I will take on that Chiefs
Speaker 3: team right now, Like that's the Bills. Maybe they are,
Speaker 3: maybe they have fixed some of their issues, but I
Speaker 3: still think they have problems defensively, and Andy Dolan didn't
Speaker 3: exploit any of those problems. So I like that Chiefs number,
Speaker 3: even though I know it's very very Joe public. Right now,
Speaker 3: Seahawks minus three against Washington next Sunday, What in the
Speaker 3: world is that number? Seahawks, even if Daniels is back,
Speaker 3: they feel like a much better team than this Washington team.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, defensively for sure. Right they're playing like like
Speaker 2: They're just solid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a banged up Daniels Seahawks on the
Speaker 3: road as well, totally different teams. So minus three early number.
Speaker 3: I will take that as we sit here right now
Speaker 3: as well. So back to back road chalk for me
Speaker 3: to start it off.
Speaker 1: Jeff, I saw Detroit minus eight and a half against Minnesota.
Speaker 3: Already minus nine at hard Rock.
Speaker 1: Well, I'd still take it at nine, you know, because
Speaker 1: then I'm risking to push versus eight and a half fair,
Speaker 1: But I have no reason not to bet this team,
Speaker 1: and I have no reason to bet on Minnesota. Is
Speaker 1: the quarterback going to be Jj McCarthy against this Detroit
Speaker 1: Lions team that has had time off at home where
Speaker 1: they just dominate all the time.
Speaker 2: No reason to not back the Lions.
Speaker 1: Until they show us they shouldn't be trusted at home
Speaker 1: as a big favorite.
Speaker 2: So that one stuck out to me.
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a home dog against Indianapolis stuck out to me.
Speaker 1: I'm obviously gonna wait until I see what happens tonight
Speaker 1: in that game. But I also the other game that
Speaker 1: immediately flagged was Kansas City minus one and a half.
Speaker 1: I saw that, I'm like, oh yeah, that's that's a
Speaker 1: that's a game. We're gonna bet right now that those
Speaker 1: were those were the ones. All right, final review we.
Speaker 3: Had, I'll give I'll give one sharp line. Yeah, Houston
Speaker 3: plus one right now at hard Rock at home against Denver.
Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, still still market not valuing this this Houston team.
Speaker 3: It seems like they're a little bit overvaluing that Denver team.
Speaker 3: So well, for sure, we'll see where that number goes.
Speaker 3: My my incant reaction is I could see that flipping.
Speaker 3: So I'm gonna grab Houston now as a dog.
Speaker 2: All right. Uh.
Speaker 1: We had today the Patriots minus six and a half.
Speaker 1: That was a win, Denver minus three and a half.
Speaker 2: That was a win.
Speaker 1: Houston plus one, that was a win, the Giants plus
Speaker 1: seven and a half, that was a loss. We have
Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight plus three and a half to
Speaker 1: round out our final five. This has been Sharper Square
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