1 00:00:01,200 --> 00:00:05,000 Speaker 1: Come to Sharper Square, presented by Hard rap Bat. 2 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 2: We are part of the Volume podcast network. 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: This is the show that makes the squares sharper and 4 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:15,040 Speaker 1: makes the wise guys pay attention. I am Chad Millman. 5 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: I am joined as always by my bff, my companion, 6 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: my compadre, professional vetter, Simon Hunter Ella Simon. 7 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 3: What's our brother? 8 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 2: Well, look, we're. 9 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:33,320 Speaker 1: Feeling good because it was kind of a drama free day. 10 00:00:34,080 --> 00:00:39,239 Speaker 1: One one score game today. Going back to Thursday night, 11 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 1: so far one one score game the New York j 12 00:00:46,120 --> 00:00:51,199 Speaker 1: e Ts Jets, Jets, Jets. They got in the win column, 13 00:00:51,720 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: the Dolphins were redeemed, the Bills avoid to trap. 14 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:01,720 Speaker 2: None of those games were in our Simon. 15 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: However, our record on the day is three and one. 16 00:01:05,240 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: We had the Texans at plus one. We liked them 17 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: up to two and a half. That's where it landed. 18 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 1: We had the Patriots minus six and a half. We 19 00:01:12,560 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 1: liked them at seven, that's where it landed. We had 20 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,319 Speaker 1: the Giants plus seven and a half, that is a bummer. 21 00:01:18,600 --> 00:01:20,440 Speaker 1: And we had the Broncos minus three and a half, 22 00:01:22,480 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: no sweat. We have the Steelers at plus three and 23 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 1: a half. Tonight against the Packers, last On's in last 24 00:01:30,920 --> 00:01:34,840 Speaker 1: games in today. I think we're kind of the Pats 25 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: and the Giants and the last ones out. I think 26 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: we're the Saints, the Jets, and I guess the Ravens. 27 00:01:44,080 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 1: We'll talk about all of these games. We're going to 28 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: get to our early leans for Week nine, and we'll 29 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,120 Speaker 1: get to some viewer questions and comments as well as 30 00:01:58,120 --> 00:02:00,600 Speaker 1: we dig in. But let's let's kick it off with 31 00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:02,680 Speaker 1: that New England game. Like I said, we had the 32 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: Patriots minus six and a half. Here's how it came 33 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: down to New England. For me, I was stretching this morning. 34 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: This one was my arm rotation from my frozen shoulder, 35 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 1: and it just occurred to me. We've been talking about 36 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: the Patriots all week, and we had been bouncing around 37 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: between a bunch of seven point games, and I just 38 00:02:27,360 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: thought to myself, Dylan Gabriel cannot score touchdowns in this game. 39 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,839 Speaker 1: He absolutely will not be able to score. I don't 40 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,240 Speaker 1: care about anything else. We ended up putting them in. 41 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: It was against the wise guys because this line had 42 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,480 Speaker 1: moved to six and a half in a lot of places. 43 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:53,079 Speaker 2: The last thing I said this morning. 44 00:02:54,320 --> 00:02:57,240 Speaker 1: Before we made the pick, I believe the Browns are 45 00:02:57,240 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: susceptible to big plays. I feel like our overall analysis 46 00:03:03,320 --> 00:03:06,920 Speaker 1: on this nailed it. I can't believe it took us 47 00:03:06,960 --> 00:03:08,079 Speaker 1: so long to commit to it. 48 00:03:10,400 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I would say your confidence probably wasn't this level. 49 00:03:13,400 --> 00:03:18,679 Speaker 3: At half. It was looking like frustrating the game of 50 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,040 Speaker 3: the professionals do bet where it's like the Browns basically 51 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,240 Speaker 3: pulled the Patriots into the mud, got a really flukey 52 00:03:26,320 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 3: opening drive touchdown, and we were sweating because it's like 53 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,640 Speaker 3: May was just making bad plays, bad decisions, and they 54 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 3: kept giving them opportunities. Like you said, the way to 55 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 3: attack that Browns team is definitely through the air in 56 00:03:37,360 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 3: the secondary right, they're tough to run against, but they 57 00:03:39,200 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 3: had a bunch of opportunities passing and second half May 58 00:03:42,680 --> 00:03:46,240 Speaker 3: got comfortable totally different, Like you saw him do what 59 00:03:46,280 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 3: he should do is move the ball down the field. 60 00:03:48,320 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 3: And what we talked about all week, Gabriel is just 61 00:03:52,040 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 3: not a starting quarterback, let alone on the road in 62 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:58,120 Speaker 3: a hostile environment like that. So he looked good on 63 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 3: that opening drive. But other than that, Yeah, that was 64 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 3: a really good button. Yeah, glad that we stuck with 65 00:04:04,040 --> 00:04:06,000 Speaker 3: it because it was a type of game that if 66 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 3: it was minus seven and a half, probably wouldn't have 67 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,280 Speaker 3: missed it. Honestly, I really loved it was because it 68 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: was minus six and a half of minus seven, It's like, well, 69 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 3: those are good numbers. Could be laying on a push. 70 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:19,640 Speaker 3: We could, of course, but no, we leaned into it, 71 00:04:19,680 --> 00:04:22,279 Speaker 3: and yeah, no doubt or that were clearly better team today. 72 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:22,880 Speaker 3: The Patriots. 73 00:04:23,200 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 1: Well, Dylan Gabriel, by the way, the first drive looked 74 00:04:27,360 --> 00:04:29,720 Speaker 1: like he had been playing for ten years. Three for three, 75 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: one hundred yards. Yeah, touchdown. And it's funny you mentioned halftime. 76 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:37,599 Speaker 1: So in the first half, Miles Garrett had three sacks 77 00:04:37,680 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: and a forced fumble, and he had five sacks on 78 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: the day. And I kept looking at this game, and 79 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots went in at halftime up nine to seven, 80 00:04:48,360 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 1: and actually, wasn't that anxious. I said to myself, They're 81 00:04:53,440 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: one touchdown away from covering this, and I don't think 82 00:04:56,400 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: the Browns can score again the rest of the day. 83 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: And we have Mike Vrabel who was so freaking good, 84 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,000 Speaker 1: and that first drive coming out of halftime, very first 85 00:05:08,080 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: drive they started the second half, Miles Garrett could not 86 00:05:12,800 --> 00:05:15,280 Speaker 1: be stopped right, So what did they do? They had 87 00:05:15,320 --> 00:05:18,560 Speaker 1: a trip play that ran counter to the rush. They 88 00:05:18,560 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: were rolling away from Miles Garrett. They were pitching the 89 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: ball on runs that cut inside the lanes where the 90 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:32,560 Speaker 1: rushers were coming upfield. It was the perfect drive, no penalties, 91 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: seven plays, seventy seven yards, five runs, two passes. Can't 92 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: sack if you don't drop back, and that's exactly what 93 00:05:40,480 --> 00:05:42,920 Speaker 1: they did. And then all of a sudden they get 94 00:05:42,960 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: aired out like they had multiple plays. The next drive, 95 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: I think they had another touchdown. It was two plays 96 00:05:49,520 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: of twenty plus yards, including foty yard touchdown backs to 97 00:05:53,760 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Keishan Boudi, Drake May's favorite player. 98 00:05:56,680 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 2: So just awesome. They were awesome. I love them. I 99 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:03,479 Speaker 2: loved Drake Mae. 100 00:06:03,680 --> 00:06:04,920 Speaker 3: No. It was great, but great win. 101 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,120 Speaker 2: Good for us, very good for us. By the way. 102 00:06:08,320 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: The one thing I want to say, because we talked 103 00:06:10,320 --> 00:06:15,480 Speaker 1: about Dylan Gabriel after that, after that three for three start, 104 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: I think he had like nineteen total yards or something 105 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: like that. It was really it was insane after the 106 00:06:21,400 --> 00:06:25,039 Speaker 1: first drive he was he was after the first drive, 107 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,400 Speaker 1: nineteen plays, forty three yards after starting six for seventy 108 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:33,440 Speaker 1: in the first half. So good for us, good for 109 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: the Patriots, New York Football Giants crushing. I mean, this 110 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,200 Speaker 1: is our last one in We were sort of we 111 00:06:42,240 --> 00:06:44,360 Speaker 1: didn't know what to do. We took out the Ravens 112 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: obviously because of all the Lamar stuff, and we're gonna 113 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: we're gonna get to that. We didn't buy out of it, 114 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 1: and we actually said on the show we're sticking with it, 115 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 1: but we did. We decided not to put into the contest, 116 00:06:56,279 --> 00:06:58,919 Speaker 1: like we decided to go with this one because of 117 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: injuries to the eat goals across the you know, Aj Brown, 118 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,840 Speaker 1: plus in the secondary, plus on the defensive line and 119 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 1: the offensive line for the Eagles, and then Camp Scataboo, 120 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 1: Like it kind of took the air out for me. 121 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,640 Speaker 1: It felt like after that it was a little bit 122 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: of a dead bet. 123 00:07:18,040 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly, I watched every second of that game. 124 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,880 Speaker 2: The refs were just terrible, like terrible. 125 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 3: The game flipped in my opinion, on that touch push, 126 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 3: which yes, the announcer said, this isn't the end zone. 127 00:07:31,720 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 3: There should not be. If you reach forward with the 128 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 3: ball and you are still that's momentum. You're moving forward, 129 00:07:37,600 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 3: your hands are moving forward with the ball, it can 130 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:42,800 Speaker 3: get punched out like you're not down and your momentums 131 00:07:42,800 --> 00:07:46,400 Speaker 3: not stop. So that was that game of the Saints game. 132 00:07:46,480 --> 00:07:48,960 Speaker 3: The Saints had a really lucky like the Bucks had 133 00:07:48,960 --> 00:07:51,360 Speaker 3: a touchdown on a rain on whistle blue, so they 134 00:07:51,360 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 3: brought the Bucks back. 135 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: Ran into the end zone three different times today on 136 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: three different plays, all. 137 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,720 Speaker 2: Of which the whistle blew before the play. 138 00:07:59,760 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 3: Was just ridiculous though, like it's same as you again, 139 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 3: like these refs need to swallow these whistles, Like we 140 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 3: can plain all the time, but it is ridiculous. So 141 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: that was absurd, Like just every little thing fell get 142 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:12,679 Speaker 3: wet again. 143 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:14,840 Speaker 1: Just to such a scene that was in the first half. 144 00:08:14,920 --> 00:08:19,960 Speaker 1: The game was still very cool. Seven the Sakoon Barclay 145 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 1: had that sixty five yard run and the Giants went 146 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 1: right back down and scored. They looked fantastic, like Jackson 147 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:29,880 Speaker 1: Dart was slinging the ball and like looked really comfortable 148 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: and their defense was playing well, and they get that 149 00:08:32,840 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 1: fumble cave on Thibodeau on Jalen Hurts and the rest 150 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: blue the whistle and the Eagles score touched on after that. 151 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,599 Speaker 3: Yeah, and then like there's still a much opportunities to 152 00:08:41,640 --> 00:08:44,400 Speaker 3: where the Giants were in the game, like they had 153 00:08:44,400 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 3: a long touchdown got called back, so the guy guy 154 00:08:47,120 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 3: pushed off when they're clearly hand fighting. It just you're 155 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:52,960 Speaker 3: gonna have games that just go against you like that 156 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 3: with the reps, like we just couldn't get any calls 157 00:08:54,880 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 3: our way. All the key moments went the other way. 158 00:08:57,440 --> 00:09:01,960 Speaker 3: And once again Jalen her it's playing really well, like 159 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 3: he just killed us in this game, like a couple 160 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 3: of big throws where it's like he's just when he's 161 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:09,800 Speaker 3: on there, it doesn't matter. There's no Aj Brown in 162 00:09:09,840 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 3: that type of game. Like when he was on he 163 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 3: was sitting guys deep all over the field. Like we 164 00:09:14,120 --> 00:09:17,560 Speaker 3: talked about the run game, you know, Saquon gets hurt, 165 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 3: the backup comes in, tanks Bigsby, and I think he 166 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: rushes for one hundred yards. So yeah, the Giants just 167 00:09:23,240 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 3: got rolled, bad bet and just brutal on a day 168 00:09:26,000 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 3: where like we've talked about, we got pretty much every 169 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:32,200 Speaker 3: game right, one of the games we put in. Like 170 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:34,360 Speaker 3: I think we both agree looking back, why do we 171 00:09:34,440 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 3: not just put the Colts and over the Giants or 172 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: whatever it may be? Those always those always hurt you. 173 00:09:39,120 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 3: Where you know, kind of hated the Giants and we 174 00:09:42,880 --> 00:09:44,800 Speaker 3: ended up on it anyway and we got burned. 175 00:09:45,120 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, that one was really disappointing. There was a play 176 00:09:50,880 --> 00:09:54,280 Speaker 1: the Giants were keeping it close. They were down early 177 00:09:54,320 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 1: in the fourth. They're down twenty four to thirteen. Eagles 178 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 1: have a second and third, Brian Burns had just gotten 179 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 1: a second sack in the game. 180 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:10,360 Speaker 2: They give up a thirty one yard run to Tank Bixby. 181 00:10:10,679 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, for the fact, not even Saquon like that was 182 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: a backbreaker. And then even right after that they scored 183 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown. It then even down thirty one thirteen because 184 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,200 Speaker 1: it's a seven and a half point spread, the back 185 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: door sort of always open, right, and the Giants nearly 186 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: made it close. You're talking about that long touchdown pass 187 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: from Jackson Dart. 188 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:36,040 Speaker 2: I can't remember who the receiver was. It was a 189 00:10:36,040 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 2: great play. 190 00:10:36,600 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: It was total hand fighting all the way down the field, 191 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:41,320 Speaker 1: and the refs called the pass interference OPI called it back. 192 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:45,559 Speaker 2: That's sort of the ballgame. Brian day Ball at that point. 193 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: Was so apoplectic, like and like it was so funny 194 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: because he didn't know what to do, and he just 195 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 1: took his headphones and just shoved him on top of 196 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,240 Speaker 1: his head as hard as he couldn't look like they 197 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 1: were like squeezing his face, Like his face was so 198 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: puffy and red and angry and he's just squeezing the headphones. 199 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:12,559 Speaker 2: He was so mad. I do wonder are the rest 200 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: going to have to do? 201 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:15,280 Speaker 1: So, like, is there going to be a call from 202 00:11:15,280 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: the league about these whistles because it happened in a 203 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 1: few different games. 204 00:11:19,360 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: It happened. 205 00:11:20,280 --> 00:11:23,440 Speaker 1: It happened in the Cowboys game, in the Cowboys Broncos 206 00:11:23,480 --> 00:11:26,559 Speaker 1: game as well, So that was and it's weird that 207 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:30,960 Speaker 1: it happened multiple times today and everybody was noticing it. 208 00:11:31,040 --> 00:11:33,439 Speaker 1: So that's going to have to be I think that's 209 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 1: going to be a conversation from the league this week. 210 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 3: I still like the idea that now that New York 211 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:41,079 Speaker 3: is involved and we're so openly about New York making 212 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: calls for the refs, Yeah, give them one universal challenge 213 00:11:46,240 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 3: every coach gets to make that they challenge a call 214 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,439 Speaker 3: on the field no matter what the rule is, whatever 215 00:11:52,480 --> 00:11:54,600 Speaker 3: it is, that it can be a return, which I'm 216 00:11:54,600 --> 00:11:58,079 Speaker 3: talking like fast interference, those type of plays where the 217 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 3: westle blew a play dead like it's the momentum all 218 00:12:03,840 --> 00:12:07,440 Speaker 3: of it. It just changes so much dramatically. I remember 219 00:12:07,440 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 3: they tried having that challenge with the pis a couple 220 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,079 Speaker 3: of years ago after that Ram Saints game, and it 221 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: didn't work because it was the refs working in collusion 222 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: to get rid of the rule because they were just 223 00:12:18,080 --> 00:12:21,319 Speaker 3: so mad. I think it was like a overturn rate. 224 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,000 Speaker 3: It was like dead on arrivals. So they got to 225 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 3: figure out something. It just if New York is going 226 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,480 Speaker 3: to be involved, let's just get it right, like we 227 00:12:29,520 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 3: always say, no one would complain if we just got 228 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: it right, And that's that's all. At the end of 229 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:37,319 Speaker 3: that we want, like it's it cleans up a lot 230 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 3: of the game. When the refs are changing the game 231 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:42,439 Speaker 3: so much, it should just one challenge a game, that's 232 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 3: all we ask. Where it can challenge one call on 233 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:45,079 Speaker 3: the field. 234 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: I don't know why you limited to a challenge. I 235 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: think they should expand the rule of what can be 236 00:12:52,200 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: overturned by the officials. And they've already. 237 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:58,240 Speaker 3: We're not killing the play, like I think that's you're 238 00:12:58,240 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 3: about to say, a whistle killing the play is just brew. 239 00:13:00,600 --> 00:13:01,240 Speaker 2: That's what I mean. 240 00:13:01,559 --> 00:13:05,480 Speaker 1: So the whistle shouldn't be if well. There were also 241 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: a couple times where there was no whistle blown that 242 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,439 Speaker 1: anyone could hear like they were running. They were running 243 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: the plays back in real speed without any other audio, 244 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: and there were no whistles, and they're calling the play 245 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:25,440 Speaker 1: was dead off of a whistle. So why do they 246 00:13:25,480 --> 00:13:29,480 Speaker 1: have to have a universal one time challenge on plays 247 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:33,079 Speaker 1: where the whistle shouldn't be blown, wherefore progress isn't stopped, 248 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: where the officials can then overturn it in the same 249 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: way they can do with a turnover. So that's what 250 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: I'm saying, is like, if there's a question, let that 251 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:45,360 Speaker 1: be a challengeable play, or let that be something that 252 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,720 Speaker 1: is reviewed an instant review from New York. 253 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:49,960 Speaker 2: That's what I think they should do. 254 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: San Francisco at Houston, Simon says, Look, we loved it 255 00:13:57,000 --> 00:14:00,520 Speaker 1: all week and we were not sort of dissuay by 256 00:14:00,720 --> 00:14:04,079 Speaker 1: Houston flipping and flopping a little bit from one point 257 00:14:04,120 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: dog to one point favorite, then getting up to two 258 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:08,160 Speaker 1: and a half. We sat on the show this morning, 259 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:10,679 Speaker 1: we liked it up to two and a half or 260 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: really up to three. But boy man, for a game 261 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:24,560 Speaker 1: they completely and totally dominated from the get go. They 262 00:14:24,600 --> 00:14:28,040 Speaker 1: made every effort to let the Niners sneak in the 263 00:14:28,040 --> 00:14:28,880 Speaker 1: back door on this one. 264 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, and we joke it's it's always scary when a team, 265 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,680 Speaker 3: you know, in the first half has three hundred yards, 266 00:14:38,680 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: has the ball for what was they say, thirty minutes 267 00:14:41,560 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 3: or something insane and they give up that late touchdown. 268 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 3: Insane throw by Mac Jones, insane little window to kill again. 269 00:14:51,800 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 3: I know you're not the biggest Mac Jones fans. I 270 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:55,320 Speaker 3: can't get over some of the flaer as a kid 271 00:14:55,360 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 3: makes where it's like he is getting pumbled in that game. 272 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,480 Speaker 3: He's getting hit every play, and like you said, we 273 00:15:01,480 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 3: were never out of it, like he kept us. He 274 00:15:04,240 --> 00:15:05,760 Speaker 3: made that we had to watch that game unto the 275 00:15:05,800 --> 00:15:08,320 Speaker 3: fourth quarter, which is just ridiculous. Mean, you should have 276 00:15:08,320 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 3: been able to turn that game off at half because 277 00:15:10,480 --> 00:15:13,520 Speaker 3: Houston dominated that much. But yeah, they're just there's something 278 00:15:13,560 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 3: up with Houston them just not finishing in the red zone. 279 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 3: And you know, it's it's hard to get mad at 280 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:22,920 Speaker 3: a quarterback that's number one, number two receiver or out 281 00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,040 Speaker 3: of the game like he's thrown to ye kid Higgins 282 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 3: who's a rookie, and you know it's just not ideal. Yes, yeah, 283 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:34,680 Speaker 3: so it's like and it worked, like we said, though 284 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,440 Speaker 3: if if he doesn't have pressure in his face, all 285 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 3: the injuries to foynineers have had, they're just their defense 286 00:15:40,160 --> 00:15:42,200 Speaker 3: as a shell. It's like they don't give you so much. 287 00:15:42,240 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 3: So amazing spot, unique spot for Houston. And yeah, like 288 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,640 Speaker 3: you know, Tuesday when we talked about it, I gave 289 00:15:51,680 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 3: it on the basis of this is gonna be a 290 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 3: pro team appro spot. The public will build over the 291 00:15:55,800 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 3: forty nine ers, And as the week went along, you 292 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 3: saw the number kept moving, like you said, opened as 293 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 3: a dog, closed minus two, minus two and a half. 294 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 3: So those are those are the nice, nice times to 295 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 3: be a pro because it's like it feels like you're 296 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 3: the smart guy in the room because like again, everyone 297 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:13,600 Speaker 3: I knew was like trying to tell me how good 298 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 3: this matchup is for their forty nine ers, and it's 299 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 3: just like this Texas team, they're not with their record 300 00:16:18,280 --> 00:16:21,440 Speaker 3: shows and we saw that in the game. So the 301 00:16:21,480 --> 00:16:25,479 Speaker 3: Colts have pretty much ended their Texas season, I guess divisionally, 302 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:28,040 Speaker 3: but Texas all have a chance, got that wild card. 303 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: It's not they're not going to give up. They're a 304 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 3: good defensive team, they got weapons, so big, big win 305 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,160 Speaker 3: for them. Twenty six fifteen. They needed that type of win. 306 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: The Bears and the Texans. And we're going to get 307 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:39,960 Speaker 1: to the Bears and the Ravens in a minute. But 308 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: had similar first quarters. As I was making my notes, 309 00:16:44,160 --> 00:16:50,480 Speaker 1: the Texans dominated, completely dominated. They had just in the 310 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 1: first quarter they had one hundred and thirty eight yards 311 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: to the Niners nineteen twenty three plays to the Niners, four, 312 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:04,320 Speaker 1: six first downs to the Niners zero, and they had 313 00:17:04,359 --> 00:17:08,960 Speaker 1: the ball for thirteen minutes and nineteen seconds of the 314 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes in the first quarter, and they were only 315 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: up six to nothing. Yeah, and at least like they 316 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:20,520 Speaker 1: did continue to dominate. They got up thirteen nothing, they 317 00:17:20,520 --> 00:17:24,159 Speaker 1: got up sixteen nothing, and then they had sort of 318 00:17:24,160 --> 00:17:29,320 Speaker 1: a catastrophic final fifty one seconds. They let Brian Robinson 319 00:17:29,440 --> 00:17:31,639 Speaker 1: run the ball back a kick off after they won 320 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:34,280 Speaker 1: up sixteen nothing. They let him run it back to 321 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 1: about the fifty and they had a face mask and 322 00:17:37,840 --> 00:17:41,040 Speaker 1: then Mac Jones got the first first down of the 323 00:17:41,080 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: first half for the Niners. And then all of a sudden, 324 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: they're in the end zone at sixteen to seven. They 325 00:17:46,320 --> 00:17:48,439 Speaker 1: were getting the ball back to start the second half. 326 00:17:48,640 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 1: Because the Texans defense is so good. This year they 327 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:53,840 Speaker 1: were to stop them and then they were able to 328 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,240 Speaker 1: actually score to go up twenty three to seven. 329 00:17:57,160 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 2: But man like it. 330 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,679 Speaker 1: Was, it was the lack of pressure that allowed the 331 00:18:02,720 --> 00:18:07,159 Speaker 1: Texans to continue to drive the ball down the field. 332 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: We talked about it. You just mentioned it to put 333 00:18:09,600 --> 00:18:12,480 Speaker 1: a stat against it. They only pressured the quarterback on 334 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: nineteen percent of his forty plus dropbacks today. That was 335 00:18:16,600 --> 00:18:19,119 Speaker 1: to us the key to the game and why we 336 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: were betting it. We just didn't think the Niners, as 337 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:24,640 Speaker 1: much as we love Sala, they didn't have the horses 338 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 1: to really get to the quarterback and make a difference 339 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:28,879 Speaker 1: for them. 340 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 2: But wow, like the thing that I want to know, 341 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,359 Speaker 2: I want your take on this. CJ. 342 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:43,720 Speaker 1: Stroud had three hundred yards passing his issue and as 343 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: the game went on, he started to throw the ball 344 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: downfield more and more. You know, the first few drives 345 00:18:48,359 --> 00:18:53,400 Speaker 1: classic CJ. Five yard dump, five yard dump inaccurate, bad screen. 346 00:18:53,880 --> 00:18:54,159 Speaker 2: It was. 347 00:18:54,400 --> 00:18:56,160 Speaker 1: It looked like it was going to be a frustrating day. 348 00:18:56,760 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 1: They started to get better. They started to convert on 349 00:18:58,520 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: third downs schematically, Did we see anything in this game 350 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 1: that we can take forward as we think about the 351 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,879 Speaker 1: Texans because they have such a good defense. Did we 352 00:19:08,920 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: see anything that could help complement this defense? 353 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I think they're gonna be a borderline 354 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,760 Speaker 3: playoff team, which you're the Texans. That's the most you 355 00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 3: can ask for. You don't. Coming in the year you 356 00:19:20,960 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: I greted them as one of the worst offensive lines 357 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:27,360 Speaker 3: in all football. So I remember we joked people were 358 00:19:27,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 3: just taking them down the division because it's like everyone 359 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 3: else in the division is a joke, and that's the 360 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 3: view of it. It's like no one thought this was 361 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 3: gonna be a good team, a contender. They're just not 362 00:19:35,520 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 3: built right. So for me, it's just keep approving through 363 00:19:40,560 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: the draft of the years. But like, no, watching them today, 364 00:19:43,800 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 3: there's just I just can't see them challenging the Colts 365 00:19:48,080 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 3: for this division. They just you watch the Colts and 366 00:19:50,160 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 3: you watch Houston. It's two totally different worlds. One just 367 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,520 Speaker 3: looks like I'm machine offensively, totally in rhythm. Like you said, 368 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 3: everything's hard for CJ in this offense. Even on days 369 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 3: like today where the run game felt like it was 370 00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,520 Speaker 3: getting seven yards per carry for Houston, still felt like 371 00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:07,720 Speaker 3: CJM miss throws and it was tough at points for him. 372 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: So yeah, I just I'm confident in them to be 373 00:20:10,359 --> 00:20:12,959 Speaker 3: a playoff team potentially, but not confident in them to 374 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: be one of the better teams in all football. 375 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:18,679 Speaker 1: Houston had four hundred and seventy five yards. That was 376 00:20:18,760 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: more than twice as many as the forty nine Ers, 377 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:26,880 Speaker 1: who had two hundred and twenty three. They had seventy 378 00:20:26,920 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: five total plays. The Niners only had forty four. So 379 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 1: what does that tell you. 380 00:20:31,800 --> 00:20:32,920 Speaker 2: About your boy Mac Jones? 381 00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,399 Speaker 1: That he was able to make this as close as 382 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:37,240 Speaker 1: it was, and like he basically did it in three drives. 383 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,639 Speaker 1: He had like three good drives then enabled us to 384 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: have to sweat in like the only game we really had. 385 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:44,600 Speaker 2: To sweat today. 386 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,359 Speaker 1: So good on Mac. He's not going to be the starter, 387 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,959 Speaker 1: but good on Mac. Dallas at Denver Denver minus three 388 00:20:53,040 --> 00:20:55,520 Speaker 1: and a half. This was Chad's choice. 389 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: Our biggest fear. 390 00:20:57,280 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Of betting this game was bo Nix. And you asked 391 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,639 Speaker 1: me before we came on the air, what did I 392 00:21:04,640 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: think when I saw that play. I'm going to tell 393 00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: you that true. The first pick, the first pick, that's right, 394 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:12,520 Speaker 1: the first pick from Bonnicks on the first drop. I 395 00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,959 Speaker 1: think it was the third play of the game. I 396 00:21:16,040 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: was so hungry at that point, Simon, after the early games, 397 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: and that Broncos game started so much later that I 398 00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:24,520 Speaker 1: hadn't turned over to multiview yet. 399 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:25,960 Speaker 2: I got up and I went. 400 00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:29,719 Speaker 1: I got myself some carrot sticks, and so I missed 401 00:21:29,760 --> 00:21:31,880 Speaker 1: the first pick. So when I got to that game, 402 00:21:31,920 --> 00:21:35,520 Speaker 1: the Cowboys were scoring a field goal, and so I 403 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: only saw the good stuff. 404 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:37,440 Speaker 2: So if I had seen that. 405 00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 1: First play, I probably would have pulled a Brian dayball, 406 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: like I would have been apoplectic. But because I didn't 407 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 1: have to see it, I felt great the whole day 408 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: because they kind of dominated. 409 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 3: I was thinking of you last week when we had 410 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 3: that really bad night. Obviously we went two and three 411 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:56,639 Speaker 3: with Houston loss for us. So it's like one in 412 00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,600 Speaker 3: the morning, and I thought of you because I had 413 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,480 Speaker 3: a bowl of Count Chocula. Do you know what Count 414 00:22:02,560 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 3: Chocola is? 415 00:22:03,400 --> 00:22:04,960 Speaker 2: I know what Count chocolate is, all right. 416 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 3: It's one of the last things remaining on this planet 417 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:10,280 Speaker 3: that tastes like the nineties. It tastes like disappointment and plastic. 418 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: It tastes like the seventies, dude. 419 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,120 Speaker 3: And they haven't changed the rest of the guy blossom, 420 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,000 Speaker 3: but it is just terrible for you when I eat it. 421 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,520 Speaker 3: It's a true depressing meal. Uh, it's only only to 422 00:22:21,600 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 3: get it in this Halloween type of thing. And I 423 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:27,720 Speaker 3: was thinking, if Chad ate this bowl of cereal, he 424 00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 3: would combust. I feel like you would just explode. 425 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,440 Speaker 2: I would turn into Dracula in the sunlight. 426 00:22:33,119 --> 00:22:38,159 Speaker 3: Yeah, seriously, loove, but no, it's uh yeah, it's this 427 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 3: is the type of game that we thought exactly was 428 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:43,040 Speaker 3: going to be cheat this Broncos game Like that's as 429 00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,479 Speaker 3: a handicapper. That's why today has been so fun. All 430 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 3: these games effect for the most part we talked about 431 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 3: gone these ways and just Deck incredibly talented. But you 432 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:55,480 Speaker 3: saw that offensive line get him off his spot. He 433 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 3: had multiple turnovers on the flip side. Next other than 434 00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 3: that one turn played against air, he just was passing. 435 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:03,560 Speaker 3: It was like a seven on seven. 436 00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:04,720 Speaker 2: It was a practice game. 437 00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the run game picking up ten yards a clip. 438 00:23:09,920 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: You know, the Cowboys they're making a publicly know right, 439 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 3: they're trying to get mex crowds. They're trying to get 440 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 3: a Trey Hendricks. You're they're three or four guys on 441 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:22,880 Speaker 3: that line away from having a defensive line. So yeah, 442 00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 3: Dallas is gonna be a fun team. They're gonna somehow 443 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,480 Speaker 3: maybe be a playoff team. But in these type of games, 444 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: like I feel like we nailed it, where if you 445 00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 3: have an offensive scheme at like Sean Payton, and you 446 00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 3: have a defense and can get pressure with four or 447 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:36,720 Speaker 3: five guys, that's gonna be Dallas's weakness if they just 448 00:23:37,240 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 3: faced a jugging out offense like themselves and they can't 449 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 3: put up the points themselves because they just can't keep 450 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 3: up with all the pressure in Deck's face. So uh, yeah, 451 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 3: great Reid, get great Beck because a lot of pros, 452 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 3: a lot of guys talking love for Dallas this week, 453 00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:53,960 Speaker 3: So uh glad we stuck with that one and never 454 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 3: never wavered minus three and a half. 455 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,040 Speaker 1: We never wavered. And I will tell you right now 456 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,840 Speaker 1: your support for this that meant everything to me, not 457 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 1: even kidding like you loved it. 458 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 2: You kept saying you loved it. 459 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 3: I'm like, all right, well we're fight over on Tuesday, 460 00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 3: not fighting. It was like both of us won day 461 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: and you took it. I took another game. 462 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 1: So yeah, no, it landed how we thought, Yeah, great 463 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: would land And if the Broncos just changed their uniforms 464 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:25,000 Speaker 1: to those old school blue helmets and those jerseys. 465 00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 2: Just do it. It would be great. 466 00:24:27,320 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 1: I love those unis. They look fantastic, they play fantastic. 467 00:24:31,359 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 1: It's awesome. 468 00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,679 Speaker 2: Good for us. Those were the four games we had 469 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:36,760 Speaker 2: on the day. 470 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 1: Let's do a quick word from hard Rock and we're 471 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: going to get to We got to get to that 472 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: Chicago Baltimore game. 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Concerned about 496 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,440 Speaker 1: gambling in Florida called one eight three three play wise 497 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: in Indiana, if you were someone you know as a 498 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: gambling problem with want help, call one eight hundred nine 499 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 1: with it gambling problem called one eight hundred gambler in Arizona, Colorado, Illinois, 500 00:26:07,720 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: New Jersey, Ohio, Tennessee, Virginia. 501 00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,480 Speaker 2: All right, so Chicago Baltimore. 502 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,240 Speaker 1: Baltimore was a six and a half point favorite in 503 00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: this game. Obviously massive controversy. We covered it this morning. 504 00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:28,720 Speaker 1: Had a little rant the arrogance, stupidity, obfuscation by John 505 00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:33,040 Speaker 1: Harbaugh in a week in which the biggest betting scandal 506 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 1: since legalization had taken place with the NBA and Terry 507 00:26:39,040 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: Rozier and Chauncey Billups and Damon Jones to have the 508 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: audacity and stupidity to mess around with the injury report 509 00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:51,960 Speaker 1: and Lamar Jackson, maybe he's living in a hole, maybe 510 00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 1: he hasn't come out of his film room, but you 511 00:26:54,320 --> 00:26:57,960 Speaker 1: got to be self aware enough to know the situation 512 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:02,920 Speaker 1: with your league and how its relationship with operators has 513 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: changed the way gambling is viewed and the way the 514 00:27:07,520 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: integrity of the games reviewed. The fact that this happened, 515 00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 1: and I know the NFL has said they're going to investigate, 516 00:27:13,760 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: was just, honest to god idiocy. You and I decided 517 00:27:20,800 --> 00:27:22,560 Speaker 1: we were going to stick with the Ravens at six 518 00:27:22,600 --> 00:27:26,240 Speaker 1: and a half, and that was partially because we liked 519 00:27:26,920 --> 00:27:33,919 Speaker 1: Tyron Huntley better than Cooper Rush. So that worked out really, 520 00:27:33,960 --> 00:27:37,919 Speaker 1: really well. I have some thoughts on the Bears, but 521 00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:40,159 Speaker 1: I want to get your take on how you were 522 00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 1: feeling about this game as it started. 523 00:27:44,640 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, honestly didn't waiver though, because it was s newpuntling 524 00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:51,919 Speaker 3: and it's like if it was you know, a different 525 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 3: scenario where it's a quarterback. I don't trust and I've 526 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 3: made it a lot and clear about that. I just 527 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 3: do not like Cooper Rush in this offense. I would 528 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,240 Speaker 3: add to a bio all my positions. It would have 529 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:05,600 Speaker 3: been an absolute nightmare. But got really lucky, didn't budge 530 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,320 Speaker 3: even though the line had moved, what four points against US? 531 00:28:08,320 --> 00:28:09,360 Speaker 3: Five points against US? 532 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:12,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, the seven down to two and then it went 533 00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:14,479 Speaker 1: back up. And by the way, I meant Tyler Huntley, 534 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:17,080 Speaker 1: not Tyron Huntley. Just call them snoop you want to 535 00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:18,800 Speaker 1: be called snoop snoop, snoop hop. 536 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, it's just the exact game though of you just 537 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 3: trust the spot and the numbers, and if you can 538 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:31,080 Speaker 3: lie to yourself about the quarterback position being semi decent, 539 00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 3: it was an automatic spot for this Ravens team. We 540 00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 3: went through all the trends, everything like that. Just the Browns, 541 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 3: I mean the Bears, they were over achievers walking into 542 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: an absolute deaf trap. So, and you're gonna have feelings 543 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 3: about Kayleb Williams and a lot of things that went 544 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:49,080 Speaker 3: wrong with that offense today. They were never gonna win. 545 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,920 Speaker 3: You guys win this this type of game. You guys 546 00:28:50,960 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 3: go in there, you win, like play well and win 547 00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 3: this game outright, you got to start taking them serious 548 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 3: as a contender in the division, Like, this is not 549 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,920 Speaker 3: a wildcard team, this is a legit team going on 550 00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 3: the road in a really tough environment against the most 551 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 3: desperate team in football, Ravens fair to say like they 552 00:29:10,680 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 3: lose this, oh my god. So yeah, just just a 553 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: nightmare spot for the Bears. I'm just so happy for 554 00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 3: our fans that it covered, because it's like, nothing is 555 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 3: more sickening than us getting a number hitting it, giving 556 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:26,800 Speaker 3: it out on the show and then, like you said, 557 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 3: feel like we were misguided and lied to it and 558 00:29:28,880 --> 00:29:31,600 Speaker 3: now we look like idiots because an organization kind of 559 00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 3: pulled the rug from Ethos. So so happy it came through. 560 00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 3: But my god, when that game first started, I was like, 561 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,800 Speaker 3: like you said, Bears were playing so well to start 562 00:29:39,800 --> 00:29:42,600 Speaker 3: the game. Why did we not tell people to get 563 00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: out of this position? My god? But yeah, like we said, 564 00:29:45,520 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 3: as the game went along, you saw it's just the 565 00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 3: Ravens defense even showed up, the run game showed up. 566 00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:52,880 Speaker 3: It just all clicked today for that Ravens team. 567 00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:54,520 Speaker 1: Well, look, they did some of the things that we 568 00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 1: talked about. Were they going to bring Kyle Hamilton into 569 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:59,960 Speaker 1: the box to improve their rush defense. Yes, they did 570 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: that often where they going to lean and Derreck Henry 571 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: and the Russian game. And after that first quarter, the 572 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: Bears went down the field pretty easily, but they only 573 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:13,440 Speaker 1: got two field goals, and you know there were That's 574 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: sort of the difference because in the first drive of 575 00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: the second quarter, the Ravens just run the ball down 576 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,719 Speaker 1: the field with ease. Derrick Henry makes everything look like 577 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:26,480 Speaker 1: they are just he's sort of just dragging guys behind him. 578 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 2: And like after that, the Bears got. 579 00:30:30,560 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: Unscripted and they didn't know what they were doing anymore. 580 00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:37,160 Speaker 1: And one of the questions and comments from one of 581 00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:41,360 Speaker 1: the viewers that's watching right now live is does Caleb 582 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: Williams have a little bit of that Trevor Lawrence in him? 583 00:30:44,960 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: And I'm not gonna. 584 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: Lie, That's exactly what I thought today. If you look 585 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: at Trevor Lawrence's stats, We've talked about this so often 586 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:54,640 Speaker 1: on the show. 587 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:57,960 Speaker 2: He looks like he's a good quarterback. He looks like he's. 588 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,800 Speaker 1: Earned the guaranteed contract, and he's continued, you need to climb. 589 00:31:01,360 --> 00:31:04,320 Speaker 1: If you watch the games, you see the bad decisions, 590 00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: you see the miss throws. 591 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 2: You see the mistakes, you see. 592 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: The things that turn them from having a chance in 593 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: a game to no longer being in the game. And 594 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:17,120 Speaker 1: we saw that from Caleb today multiple times, and he 595 00:31:17,240 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 1: is normally not a guy who throws picks. And then, 596 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,120 Speaker 1: of course Jim Harbaugh. I thought the John Harbaugh made 597 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:26,560 Speaker 1: a very good decision. And it was fourth and five 598 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: late in the game. They're up twenty three sixteen, They're 599 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: in Bears territory. They could go for it, they could 600 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: try to kick a field goal. Instead, they took the 601 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: five yards. They pinned the Bears back. Caleb throws an 602 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 1: interception deep in his end zone. The Ravens then score 603 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 1: a touchdown on the following series, and that to me 604 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 1: kind of was indicative of what you get from Caleb, 605 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:59,600 Speaker 1: which is and trevoralence, magical throws generally good stats, not 606 00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:02,360 Speaker 1: the kind of plays that help you win the game consistently. 607 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:07,240 Speaker 1: That was my take on this game. And also this 608 00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,880 Speaker 1: defense is terrible, truly terrible. Dennis Allen is a terrible coach, 609 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: irresponsible the way he coached this team to not be 610 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,640 Speaker 1: ready for the way the Ravens are going to play 611 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:20,720 Speaker 1: this game. The only thing that usually brings me joy 612 00:32:20,840 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 1: when the Bears aren't doing well is watching Matt Eberflu's 613 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: coach in a game in which I have bet against him. 614 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:30,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't even take Joey and Eberflues today because his 615 00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:33,000 Speaker 1: team is so banged up he had no shot to 616 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,920 Speaker 1: stop the Broncos. So instead, I got no joy from 617 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 1: this game other than the fact we covered. But as 618 00:32:39,040 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: a Bears fan, As a Bears fan, I want you 619 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 1: to ask me what I texted to my son today 620 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:50,320 Speaker 1: after the game. 621 00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: Just tell us and the cats and the train them 622 00:32:55,640 --> 00:33:02,960 Speaker 3: and then when you're coming home, Na, don't don't? 623 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 2: I said. 624 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 1: At some point during this game, I asked myself what 625 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: would it be like if I decided I. 626 00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:14,440 Speaker 2: Was no longer a Bears fan? 627 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: What would I what would I honestly gain in my life? 628 00:33:18,240 --> 00:33:20,400 Speaker 1: What would I lose in my life? 629 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:20,560 Speaker 3: Like? 630 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: How would my Sundays be different? How would my week 631 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:26,080 Speaker 1: be different? How would I think? 632 00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 2: You know? It's like when you're a fan, you're a 633 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 2: fan of the Eagles. 634 00:33:28,920 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: We're all fan of like, we love football, We're invested 635 00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: in these teams, not like it doesn't ruin our lives, 636 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 1: but it makes me sadder than happier and this team 637 00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:43,600 Speaker 1: just makes me sad and frustrated. 638 00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 3: Let me counter some of your points about my dear 639 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:50,920 Speaker 3: friend Caleb Williams. Right, we know where you stay at, 640 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 3: Killer Williams, Chad, you let it chose Troy Aikman over them. 641 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,600 Speaker 3: You're just me and all the Bears fans have shunned you. 642 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: And by the way, last week, it couldn't have been happier. 643 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:01,480 Speaker 2: He was enjoying the game. 644 00:34:01,520 --> 00:34:05,800 Speaker 1: He was talking about his Hammys and pulling is getting 645 00:34:05,840 --> 00:34:08,960 Speaker 1: pulled muscles on the treadmill, and like he was, he 646 00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: was joyous last week. 647 00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 3: Well, we're all ready, as the actual Bars fan on 648 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 3: this show. We're ready for you to walk away from 649 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:18,480 Speaker 3: this team. And Caleb Williams, it's I told you it's 650 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 3: gonna be ugly. It's gonna be bumpy, man. He's learning 651 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: an incredibly complex offense and he's a number one pick. 652 00:34:24,239 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: I mean, let's be honest here on this show and 653 00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 3: run through all the number one picks of the last 654 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 3: twenty five years. It's not a beauty. It's not a 655 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 3: pretty list. Chat it's an ugly list where Peyton Manning 656 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 3: worked out it's a bunch of just shit and turns 657 00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,760 Speaker 3: there fourth. I mean, Joe Burrow got to a super 658 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 3: Bowl that was fun. Number one pick Stafford, he won 659 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,760 Speaker 3: one that was fun for drafted Stafford. 660 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 2: You're naming great players, Stafford. 661 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 3: I know that. 662 00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:58,279 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow, Jared Goff, Baker Mayfield. 663 00:34:57,840 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 3: Like out, dare you come on? I'm just saying it, 664 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 3: but like like it took those guys years. You know 665 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 3: what I mean. It took Jared Goff and Baker years 666 00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:09,759 Speaker 3: to get right. I just take time with Caleb. I'm 667 00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,799 Speaker 3: with you, like he's twenty three though. I just he 668 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: looks like an idiot. He plays like an idiot. It's 669 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 3: he's so young, the league is so hard. He just 670 00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 3: he has so many bad habits. He needs to get 671 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 3: beat out of them. And that's what you have the 672 00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 3: perfect You have a psychopath as a head coach. He 673 00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 3: will beat these things out of him over time. And 674 00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,279 Speaker 3: if it doesn't work again, you have a psychopath a 675 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:32,440 Speaker 3: head coach. He will move on from Caleb Williams. You 676 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 3: have no worries out of you, So I get it. 677 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 3: You want to be upset and stuff like that. Like 678 00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:39,560 Speaker 3: I I see these plays too, and you're just like, dude, 679 00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 3: get rid of get the bolldy of your hand. Stop 680 00:35:42,560 --> 00:35:44,399 Speaker 3: holding on to it so long. It's never It never 681 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:45,919 Speaker 3: works out for him when he holds onto the ball 682 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 3: and try to improvise. So we'll see. I still believe 683 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:51,800 Speaker 3: in the talent. Like you said, he still makes throws 684 00:35:51,840 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 3: every now and then when he does push the ball 685 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,040 Speaker 3: forward with his feet, when he does run forward, not backwards, 686 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 3: he actually does make good plays with his feet when 687 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:02,200 Speaker 3: he's not going backwards. So I get where're coming from, brother, 688 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,480 Speaker 3: but just give them time. This offense is complex. I 689 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:07,760 Speaker 3: just this was a horrible spot for the Bears. They 690 00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 3: were doing before the game even started. 691 00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:12,520 Speaker 1: I've never been happier to have Caleb Balloons as my 692 00:36:12,560 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: quarterback then having the Ravens minus six and a half 693 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:22,280 Speaker 1: when they're up thirty to sixteen with thirty seconds left 694 00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,400 Speaker 1: and the Bears try to run a sneak, they can't 695 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:28,480 Speaker 1: get in and so they have to rush the final play, 696 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 1: and you know that the play design clearly calls for 697 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:35,040 Speaker 1: some kind of quick pass, and Caleb doesn't release the 698 00:36:35,080 --> 00:36:37,520 Speaker 1: ball when he's supposed to and just sort of sidearm 699 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,240 Speaker 1: flings it out of the back of the end zone. 700 00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: So that way there's no chance, there's no risk that 701 00:36:42,080 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 1: they're going to go for a two point conversion and 702 00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,719 Speaker 1: cover the six and a half. That's when I was like, 703 00:36:48,280 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: I'm not sweating this right now because there's no way 704 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,960 Speaker 1: the Bears, no timeouts are gonna be able to unpack 705 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:56,560 Speaker 1: this one literally from the offensive line back into the backfield. 706 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 2: So you know, that's just how I feel. 707 00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: I'm glad we wont I feel we got better's justice today. 708 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,520 Speaker 1: You know that's what we got. We got better justice. 709 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,759 Speaker 1: Good for Snoop Puntley. I got a little bit more 710 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,919 Speaker 1: about him later in the show. Quickly, I just want 711 00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: to say on Tampa Bay and New Orleans, because we're 712 00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:20,279 Speaker 1: done talking about the Saints, they're not a wise guy team. 713 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to hear about them being a wise 714 00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,240 Speaker 1: guy team. We saw the end of Spencer Rattler today. 715 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: Fumble on the first series, pick six from his own 716 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,120 Speaker 1: two yard line to a defensive lineman. He got benched 717 00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:36,000 Speaker 1: for Tyler Shuck. Tyler shocked through interception on his first series. 718 00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 1: Anchwine Winfield was in the end zone more than the 719 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:44,879 Speaker 1: Saints were. Thank freaking god, we didn't sucker ourselves here. 720 00:37:46,719 --> 00:37:48,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, but another team like again I know you hate 721 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,759 Speaker 3: them and you're saying that this is a not a 722 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,560 Speaker 3: sharp team, but what are you gonna do when you 723 00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:57,600 Speaker 3: have receivers fumbling the ball as well? Like it just there, 724 00:37:57,760 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 3: Like you said, they're a bad team that keep shooting 725 00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:01,480 Speaker 3: themselves on the foot. It was seven three at half, 726 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:04,720 Speaker 3: and the only seven that Tampa scored was that. Yeah, 727 00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:08,320 Speaker 3: so it's like, I get it, I get what you're saying, 728 00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:11,000 Speaker 3: like you hate him, but there is a reason people 729 00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,279 Speaker 3: are betting this scene. They're not that terrible. It's just 730 00:38:13,680 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: they're like Tennessee, everything that could go wrong goes wrong 731 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:19,480 Speaker 3: for them. They're just these these bad teams of football 732 00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 3: now are just so bad and for them to cover 733 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,719 Speaker 3: like the Jets, they need ten miracles in a row. 734 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,880 Speaker 3: It's like it's just a weird thing right now, these 735 00:38:29,920 --> 00:38:33,879 Speaker 3: teams that are really bad and the Bucks they they 736 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,920 Speaker 3: should like I know you said you thought this was 737 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:38,640 Speaker 3: gonna be easier of Ron for Baker. I told you, 738 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,760 Speaker 3: just Baker's off right now, he's injured. They're banking. 739 00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,320 Speaker 2: It wasn't easy. It was not easy. 740 00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:47,600 Speaker 3: No, that like he I think one hundred and fifty 741 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 3: yards if I'm not mistaken, is what he had passing 742 00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 3: like just Baker was off today, but the Saints gave 743 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,120 Speaker 3: them five turnovers and Baker will kill you every time 744 00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:00,439 Speaker 3: with that. He won't he won't make the turnover. You'll 745 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,680 Speaker 3: just have his off day, not make the risky throws. 746 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 3: And uh, you know, even their running game, they only 747 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,800 Speaker 3: averaged like three yards of carry or whatever, it was 748 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 3: three point two yards. Yeah, so the Bucks bad spot. 749 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 3: They're just this is what I love about good teams. 750 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 3: They showed up in other areas, which was their defense, 751 00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:23,360 Speaker 3: and they dominated. Like like you said, Spencer Rattler looks 752 00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:24,880 Speaker 3: like he's about he's already out of the league. Like 753 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,440 Speaker 3: I gave him all this praise two weeks ago. He 754 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:31,759 Speaker 3: is horrible. These last two weeks just bad reads. And 755 00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 3: uh yeah it's uh it's trade. The trade deadline's coming up, Saints. 756 00:39:36,840 --> 00:39:39,440 Speaker 3: You have some really good veteran pieces. You shouldn't move them. 757 00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 2: On last game. I want to talk about We've got 758 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:47,920 Speaker 2: to get to it. The New York Jets. What did 759 00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:48,880 Speaker 2: we say on Tuesday? 760 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:52,600 Speaker 1: What did we say on Tuesday? 761 00:39:52,640 --> 00:39:54,400 Speaker 2: Take the Jets money line? 762 00:39:55,600 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 1: Start spreading the new we said take the Jets money line? 763 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 2: Boy, did they make us look good. They worked hard 764 00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:04,960 Speaker 2: at it. They had to score. 765 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:07,919 Speaker 1: Breese Hall had to score three touchdowns in the fourth quarter, 766 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:12,799 Speaker 1: including a touchdown pass on a halfback option with one 767 00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: minute and fifty four seconds left in this game, for 768 00:40:17,160 --> 00:40:19,279 Speaker 1: the Jets to win thirty nine thirty eight. 769 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:20,040 Speaker 3: Oh. 770 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,040 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the headlines in the New York Post. 771 00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,799 Speaker 1: I can't wait for the press conference this week with 772 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Glenn, who's gonna make it sound like he's a genius. 773 00:40:28,280 --> 00:40:31,399 Speaker 1: Justin Fields thrown for two forty five. That's about twenty 774 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: five percent of all the passing yards he's thrown for 775 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:40,560 Speaker 1: this year. Magnificent, magnificent. 776 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, And we definitely talked about on that Tuesday show 777 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 3: that at that point Joe Flacco, if you bet against him, 778 00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:52,799 Speaker 3: you could have got plus two to seventy on the 779 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:56,960 Speaker 3: money line with that Jets team, and you know, before 780 00:40:57,120 --> 00:40:59,640 Speaker 3: kick That's why I love watching the market, because it's 781 00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:01,840 Speaker 3: just interest. Since how the money dictates the work and 782 00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,640 Speaker 3: how it moves. It closed up plus two to fifteen 783 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,280 Speaker 3: that money line. Yeah, So it went from on Tuesday 784 00:41:07,320 --> 00:41:10,839 Speaker 3: plus two seventy to close at plus two fifteen. Some 785 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,160 Speaker 3: books close with them at plus five and a half 786 00:41:13,400 --> 00:41:18,839 Speaker 3: that Jets team. Yeah, so I mean, geez talking about 787 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:22,799 Speaker 3: the ultimate sweat, like you needed so many things to 788 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,879 Speaker 3: go your way to cover that number, and not even 789 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 3: just cover it, you went outright. It's why we talk 790 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 3: about how stupid football can be, why we love betting 791 00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:33,600 Speaker 3: these dogs, and this year it's just it's just not 792 00:41:33,719 --> 00:41:35,600 Speaker 3: the pressing. You're sad, but it is in a sense that, 793 00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 3: like I don't bet the money line around robin dogs 794 00:41:39,040 --> 00:41:40,640 Speaker 3: like I used to. I'm really heavy to bet an 795 00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,560 Speaker 3: ound money line around Robin favorites because it's what cash is. 796 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:48,399 Speaker 3: And again, like this with the Jets happen not every 797 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,319 Speaker 3: week but every other. It felt like, now just you 798 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:54,640 Speaker 3: don't get these stupid upsets like this, and like this 799 00:41:54,680 --> 00:41:58,360 Speaker 3: week it was all chalk. There was this upset, Miami's upset. 800 00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,080 Speaker 3: Other than that, it was all favorite like it just 801 00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 3: all favorites outright. So I just I love these type 802 00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 3: of games. You can go back and watch it a 803 00:42:08,200 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 3: thousand times, like they kept showing the fans and the 804 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,480 Speaker 3: stansy since you fans, and they knew like we all 805 00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,200 Speaker 3: did at home, that it was over. Even when Joe 806 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 3: Flacker got the ball back, still up six it's just 807 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,880 Speaker 3: football is the best that way. You can just you 808 00:42:21,000 --> 00:42:22,759 Speaker 3: just you've lived it so many times you know it's 809 00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 3: gonna happen and doesn't matter what you do, you can't 810 00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:26,960 Speaker 3: stop it. Like we all knew it was coming, so 811 00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,600 Speaker 3: you know, all the fourth downs, all these like insanely 812 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:34,880 Speaker 3: random plays that worked with Justin fields today. Like you said, 813 00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 3: he passed the ball really well. And you know, in 814 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 3: a week where his owner's throwing him under the bus, 815 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 3: under the boss joke of an ownership, one of the 816 00:42:45,600 --> 00:42:47,920 Speaker 3: worst owners in the league, for him to go out 817 00:42:47,960 --> 00:42:50,879 Speaker 3: there win that type of game, thirty nine points on 818 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:54,840 Speaker 3: the road. Yeah, what a great, great feeling if you're 819 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,319 Speaker 3: a Jets team. But I don't know about their fans. 820 00:42:57,320 --> 00:42:59,400 Speaker 3: They're probably upset, right, they don't want to win anything 821 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 3: now they're one of them. But I think you'll be 822 00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 3: all right Jets fans. 823 00:43:01,800 --> 00:43:10,000 Speaker 1: I still think I don't anticipate no a run. 824 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,640 Speaker 3: Like as a fan, you only get one or two 825 00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,320 Speaker 3: a year. Jets through that bad That was That was 826 00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:13,280 Speaker 3: a great all timer. 827 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,919 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was truly truly fantastic. 828 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:21,440 Speaker 3: The Jets Denver they lost, I know it's England. They 829 00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:24,840 Speaker 3: lost eleven to thirteen. Panthers. They lost thirteen to six. 830 00:43:26,080 --> 00:43:28,719 Speaker 3: I mean they're not that like again we're joking Aaron 831 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:31,200 Speaker 3: Guns a back coach. They haven't given up on them. 832 00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 3: I give them credit for that. Three straight weeks one 833 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,560 Speaker 3: score games, they've been in it. They've been fighting in 834 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 3: these close, ugly games. So my god is the Jets 835 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,480 Speaker 3: experienced terrible but huge win for them. Now they have 836 00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:45,640 Speaker 3: a buye a week. Who knows, who knows what it 837 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:47,360 Speaker 3: could be for them going for They got Cleveland and 838 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:48,200 Speaker 3: New England coming up. 839 00:43:49,120 --> 00:43:55,759 Speaker 1: Simon, it's time to play. Shame shame, shame. 840 00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:04,480 Speaker 3: Shame on you, Shame on you NFL officials in that 841 00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,600 Speaker 3: Giants game. I just I know it's lazy, but I 842 00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,160 Speaker 3: just that's the only thing that really got me mad 843 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,839 Speaker 3: this week. Like every team we bet on, I thought 844 00:44:10,840 --> 00:44:13,040 Speaker 3: they played well. Even Jackson Dart, I thought he played 845 00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:16,520 Speaker 3: well enough to cover for us. So I really came 846 00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:18,440 Speaker 3: be mad at the players, came him out, of the coaches, 847 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,480 Speaker 3: just the refs. They might have ruined me and Chad's 848 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:24,799 Speaker 3: perfect four oh day. What could have been? What could 849 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,120 Speaker 3: have been? I have really fun videos I'm ready to 850 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,120 Speaker 3: post for our perfect day, but got away for another week. 851 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:31,160 Speaker 3: We're not perfect yet. 852 00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,879 Speaker 1: My shame, shame, shame. Pregame, no doubt about it. 853 00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 2: It was. 854 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:44,720 Speaker 1: It was John Harbaugh. But postgame, shame on you. Shame, shame, shame. 855 00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals defense against the New York Jets. 856 00:44:52,640 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 3: Same same, same, shame shame on you. 857 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:03,280 Speaker 1: You were up thirty one sixteen against a winless team 858 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:07,720 Speaker 1: with a quarterback who had thrown for a combined ninety 859 00:45:07,800 --> 00:45:12,240 Speaker 1: one yards in the previous two games, with two minutes 860 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,400 Speaker 1: left in the third quarter. 861 00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 2: You had this game wrapped up. 862 00:45:18,719 --> 00:45:23,560 Speaker 1: In the fourth quarter, you give up a touchdown and 863 00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,919 Speaker 1: a two point conversion. You're up thirty one twenty four. 864 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,359 Speaker 1: Then you score, You're up thirty eight twenty four. Then 865 00:45:29,400 --> 00:45:33,200 Speaker 1: you give up two more touchdowns. You give the Jets 866 00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: the opportunity to win their first game of the year 867 00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 1: on a half halfback option with a minute fifty four left. Brisol, 868 00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:46,279 Speaker 1: before he might get traded, had three touchdowns in the 869 00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: fourth quarter. The Cincinnati Bengals defense gave up more than 870 00:45:51,800 --> 00:45:53,160 Speaker 1: five hundred. 871 00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:55,680 Speaker 2: Yards to the New York Jets. 872 00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:59,480 Speaker 1: They gave up two hundred and sixty yards rushing to 873 00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:01,719 Speaker 1: the New York Jets. They gave up two hundred and 874 00:46:01,760 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: forty five yards passing to the New York Jets. This 875 00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:09,080 Speaker 1: is an offense that had not been able to score 876 00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 1: more than a touchdown. You gave them three in the 877 00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:18,320 Speaker 1: third quarter and you let them win the game. Shame, shame, 878 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:25,759 Speaker 1: shame on the Cincinnati Bengals. Love it, Simon, Who is 879 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:27,800 Speaker 1: your hero of the week. 880 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:32,920 Speaker 3: I'm gonna give it to my guy, James Cook. Interested 881 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:36,040 Speaker 3: news talk a little bit about it. I was heavily 882 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:39,440 Speaker 3: bet invested in the Buffalo Bills today. I know we 883 00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 3: didn't talk about much on the show, but it's people, 884 00:46:43,800 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 3: don't I mean, I can talk. I guess more about 885 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,640 Speaker 3: me taking position on money lines. But heavily invested in 886 00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,040 Speaker 3: that money line of that Bills team. And Chad knows 887 00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:53,640 Speaker 3: a little funny story to him before the show is 888 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,320 Speaker 3: taking that check. Gave me eh why to my belove 889 00:46:56,320 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 3: of the Bills before our show this morning. But I mean, Cook, 890 00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,680 Speaker 3: something's up with Josh Allen. You cannot look right in 891 00:47:03,719 --> 00:47:06,560 Speaker 3: this game at all? Yeah? Cook cooked? He did though 892 00:47:06,600 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 3: like two sixteen two touchdowns. I think he broke off 893 00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:14,799 Speaker 3: his sixty five yard run. Sixty four yard run just 894 00:47:16,000 --> 00:47:19,000 Speaker 3: unreal when it's going with that Bill's running attack, and 895 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,040 Speaker 3: you know a game where Josh Allen didn't have it, 896 00:47:21,040 --> 00:47:23,400 Speaker 3: he didn't need to because that running attack was so dominant. 897 00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:26,600 Speaker 3: And yeah, I guess I could also go to Andy Dolton. 898 00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,759 Speaker 3: He was also here in that game. But now Cook 899 00:47:28,840 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 3: for me, just a guy that we always ask why 900 00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:35,080 Speaker 3: he's not get more touches in this Bill's offense. And 901 00:47:35,120 --> 00:47:37,040 Speaker 3: I think Joe Brady's coming around to it. It's like, 902 00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 3: I get you want to rotate guys in and out. 903 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:41,120 Speaker 3: Just let cook cook. 904 00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 2: Like Chad said, my hero of the week, how could 905 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,960 Speaker 2: it not be Snoop? 906 00:47:47,120 --> 00:47:49,880 Speaker 1: Only this is a guy who got cut by the 907 00:47:49,960 --> 00:47:54,080 Speaker 1: Ravens a year ago, played in Miami, went to Cleveland, 908 00:47:54,280 --> 00:47:57,000 Speaker 1: got cut by Cleveland this year. 909 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:03,279 Speaker 2: You think the Browns might one a competent veteran quarterback 910 00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: who is careful with the ball and knows how to run. 911 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:10,680 Speaker 1: Then he's on the practice squad back with the Ravens 912 00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:15,240 Speaker 1: and they prefer Cooper Rush, who after two games averaging 913 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,560 Speaker 1: six and a half points, they finally decide to go 914 00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,360 Speaker 1: to Snoop Huntley. 915 00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:23,360 Speaker 2: And what does the guy do? What does the guy do? 916 00:48:24,160 --> 00:48:27,880 Speaker 1: Seventeen of twenty two for one p. Eighty five and 917 00:48:28,000 --> 00:48:31,240 Speaker 1: one touchdown. He gains fifty three yards on the ground. 918 00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:34,919 Speaker 1: He didn't make mistakes. He proved that he. 919 00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 2: Could move this game and this team down the field. 920 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,319 Speaker 1: He got them in the end zone, He got them 921 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,040 Speaker 1: out of challenging situations. He made passes on third and 922 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: long when he had to make the right pass to 923 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:50,560 Speaker 1: the right position, to the right guy, to the right shoulder. Snoop, 924 00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:54,880 Speaker 1: Huntley saved us from looking like bigger idiots than we 925 00:48:55,000 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: normally look like on this show. For that, Snoop, you 926 00:48:59,640 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: are the hero of the week. I'm sharper square all right. 927 00:49:04,719 --> 00:49:07,759 Speaker 1: Simon says, you had Houston minus one Chad's choice. I 928 00:49:07,800 --> 00:49:13,440 Speaker 1: had Denver minus three brass Balls Baltimore minus six and 929 00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 1: a half, rock and a hard place. We had New 930 00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:17,320 Speaker 1: England minus six and a half. 931 00:49:17,760 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 2: Sharp versus square. 932 00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:22,720 Speaker 1: I had the New York Jets plus six and a half. 933 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,080 Speaker 1: You have Pittsburgh plus three and a half. Our favorite 934 00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:34,359 Speaker 1: parlay Pats Bills, Denver Colts. We said, you know, cut 935 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:35,919 Speaker 1: it down to minus five and a half. We also 936 00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:38,160 Speaker 1: got the Chiefs minus five and a half. 937 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:41,920 Speaker 2: So that's what four. 938 00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:45,799 Speaker 1: And oh right now? And then the underdog parlay Steelers 939 00:49:46,120 --> 00:49:51,560 Speaker 1: Jets Saints Giants bear, So that's a loser of a bet, 940 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 1: Early Leans, Simon, And by the way, just a reminder, 941 00:49:56,920 --> 00:49:59,200 Speaker 1: we are on Pittsburgh plus three and a half tonight. 942 00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 1: I know people in the check we're asking and we 943 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:03,520 Speaker 1: said off the top of the show, we've been on 944 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:06,560 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh plus three and a half the entire week, Simon, 945 00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:11,560 Speaker 1: Early Leans, for you, I got some if you. 946 00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,080 Speaker 3: I mean insanely fishy lines this week. People be incredibly 947 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 3: careful because my opinion could change come Tuesday. But Chiefs 948 00:50:20,680 --> 00:50:24,359 Speaker 3: are minus one and a half against the Buffalo Bills. 949 00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:28,360 Speaker 3: That is a line I will take on that Chiefs 950 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:32,440 Speaker 3: team right now, Like that's the Bills. Maybe they are, 951 00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:36,480 Speaker 3: maybe they have fixed some of their issues, but I 952 00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:40,760 Speaker 3: still think they have problems defensively, and Andy Dolan didn't 953 00:50:40,760 --> 00:50:44,240 Speaker 3: exploit any of those problems. So I like that Chiefs number, 954 00:50:44,280 --> 00:50:47,239 Speaker 3: even though I know it's very very Joe public. Right now, 955 00:50:48,320 --> 00:50:55,799 Speaker 3: Seahawks minus three against Washington next Sunday, What in the 956 00:50:55,840 --> 00:51:01,240 Speaker 3: world is that number? Seahawks, even if Daniels is back, 957 00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:05,879 Speaker 3: they feel like a much better team than this Washington team. 958 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:10,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, defensively for sure. Right they're playing like like 959 00:51:10,120 --> 00:51:11,080 Speaker 2: They're just solid. 960 00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:16,319 Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's a banged up Daniels Seahawks on the 961 00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:19,880 Speaker 3: road as well, totally different teams. So minus three early number. 962 00:51:19,920 --> 00:51:21,879 Speaker 3: I will take that as we sit here right now 963 00:51:21,880 --> 00:51:24,440 Speaker 3: as well. So back to back road chalk for me 964 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 3: to start it off. 965 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:31,480 Speaker 1: Jeff, I saw Detroit minus eight and a half against Minnesota. 966 00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,120 Speaker 3: Already minus nine at hard Rock. 967 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:36,879 Speaker 1: Well, I'd still take it at nine, you know, because 968 00:51:36,880 --> 00:51:39,040 Speaker 1: then I'm risking to push versus eight and a half fair, 969 00:51:39,160 --> 00:51:42,919 Speaker 1: But I have no reason not to bet this team, 970 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:45,520 Speaker 1: and I have no reason to bet on Minnesota. Is 971 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:49,280 Speaker 1: the quarterback going to be Jj McCarthy against this Detroit 972 00:51:49,320 --> 00:51:52,279 Speaker 1: Lions team that has had time off at home where 973 00:51:52,280 --> 00:51:55,760 Speaker 1: they just dominate all the time. 974 00:51:57,000 --> 00:51:59,080 Speaker 2: No reason to not back the Lions. 975 00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,080 Speaker 1: Until they show us they shouldn't be trusted at home 976 00:52:02,760 --> 00:52:03,839 Speaker 1: as a big favorite. 977 00:52:03,960 --> 00:52:05,840 Speaker 2: So that one stuck out to me. 978 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:10,719 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh is a home dog against Indianapolis stuck out to me. 979 00:52:11,120 --> 00:52:13,280 Speaker 1: I'm obviously gonna wait until I see what happens tonight 980 00:52:13,719 --> 00:52:16,839 Speaker 1: in that game. But I also the other game that 981 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: immediately flagged was Kansas City minus one and a half. 982 00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,000 Speaker 1: I saw that, I'm like, oh yeah, that's that's a 983 00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 1: that's a game. We're gonna bet right now that those 984 00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: were those were the ones. All right, final review we. 985 00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:34,840 Speaker 3: Had, I'll give I'll give one sharp line. Yeah, Houston 986 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:39,120 Speaker 3: plus one right now at hard Rock at home against Denver. 987 00:52:40,520 --> 00:52:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting. 988 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:45,839 Speaker 3: Yeah, Okay, still still market not valuing this this Houston team. 989 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:48,479 Speaker 3: It seems like they're a little bit overvaluing that Denver team. 990 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,359 Speaker 3: So well, for sure, we'll see where that number goes. 991 00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:52,320 Speaker 3: My my incant reaction is I could see that flipping. 992 00:52:52,320 --> 00:52:53,839 Speaker 3: So I'm gonna grab Houston now as a dog. 993 00:52:54,360 --> 00:52:55,480 Speaker 2: All right. Uh. 994 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:58,040 Speaker 1: We had today the Patriots minus six and a half. 995 00:52:58,080 --> 00:52:59,960 Speaker 1: That was a win, Denver minus three and a half. 996 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:00,960 Speaker 2: That was a win. 997 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,680 Speaker 1: Houston plus one, that was a win, the Giants plus 998 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,520 Speaker 1: seven and a half, that was a loss. We have 999 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:10,040 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steelers tonight plus three and a half to 1000 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:14,480 Speaker 1: round out our final five. 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