1 00:00:02,200 --> 00:00:04,800 Speaker 1: Ron Andanian, because the struggle in the competition for used 2 00:00:04,840 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: cars out there is fierce that you want to go 3 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:10,239 Speaker 1: and maybe take it to your body shop and say, hey, 4 00:00:10,240 --> 00:00:12,240 Speaker 1: can I buy an hour of your time? Can you 5 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: look this car before we told you think of it? 6 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: A body wise? Has ever been in an accident? Big 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 1: cars like one that revolve yardc they don't make a 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:32,320 Speaker 1: luck down no more. Get let's big car the car Doctor. 9 00:00:32,479 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: I remember reading years ago, You're supposed to three plays, 10 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,199 Speaker 1: all four tires and staff a certain mile adown him 11 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: at the same time. Makes a good point. Yeah, you 12 00:00:41,360 --> 00:00:43,879 Speaker 1: wonder what happens if in thirty thousand miles you need 13 00:00:43,920 --> 00:00:45,720 Speaker 1: one tire? Are they're gonna put one on it? Or four? 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:49,560 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron Andanian, The Car Doctor. 15 00:00:49,880 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 1: Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car owners the 16 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 1: world overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. 17 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:00,600 Speaker 1: If your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up 18 00:01:00,640 --> 00:01:04,120 Speaker 1: the phone and call in the garage to orders are open, 19 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,479 Speaker 1: but I am here to take your calls at eight five, 20 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:14,880 Speaker 1: five five six and now running. You know it's great 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,520 Speaker 1: being a mechanic, It really is. I love my job. 22 00:01:17,560 --> 00:01:20,400 Speaker 1: I absolutely, I absolutely enjoy running a repair shop. I 23 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:22,360 Speaker 1: really enjoy the time I get to spend here with 24 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:25,959 Speaker 1: you each and every week as we continue motoring forward. 25 00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:29,480 Speaker 1: And it's interesting the variety of people I get to 26 00:01:29,520 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 1: talk to and meet and seeing. But sometimes my phone 27 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 1: sometimes at the shop. You know, we always play guess 28 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:37,319 Speaker 1: your best Danny and I sometimes we wonder, you know, 29 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:39,920 Speaker 1: who is who are these people and what do they do? 30 00:01:39,959 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: And um, we had one this week, officer Sean. And 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: I said to Danny, I said, he's a police officer 32 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:46,240 Speaker 1: and he said, hetty, And I said, I can tell, 33 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: I said. His mannerism is the way he you know, 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: he was very um methodical in his approach, you know, 35 00:01:54,360 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: in terms of the questions that he asked and looking 36 00:01:57,600 --> 00:02:01,040 Speaker 1: for specific answers on specific things and getting to know 37 00:02:01,160 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: him over time as the repair process continued forward. We 38 00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: looked at his jeep this week and you know, he 39 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,200 Speaker 1: then when he came to pick it up, we got 40 00:02:09,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: to sit down and talk with him and you know, 41 00:02:10,880 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: here's what the vehicle need. But you know it's not 42 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:14,160 Speaker 1: life and death, and yet he yet a yeah, and 43 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:16,239 Speaker 1: we kind of walked him through it. He started to 44 00:02:16,280 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: tell us about his experiences with where he'd been going, 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,239 Speaker 1: because I'm always curious what brings somebody new to my door. 46 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,320 Speaker 1: I want to know what is it, because I want 47 00:02:24,320 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: to know what the last guy did to annoy them. 48 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: And it's easy to guess, and it's it's it's not 49 00:02:29,240 --> 00:02:31,640 Speaker 1: hard to imagine, because, let's face it, there is a 50 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: lot of incompetence in the automobile field like any other field, 51 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 1: you know, but not everybody's bad. And you know, there's 52 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 1: a lot of guys and girls out there that are 53 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: really trying hard, trying to fix vehicles and keep us 54 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:44,240 Speaker 1: all rolling, and um, it was just interesting to hear 55 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 1: Sean's explanation of you know, the one that got me 56 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 1: was he said, I took it to the dealer for 57 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,840 Speaker 1: an oil change and a tire rotation. And I'm not 58 00:02:52,840 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 1: picking on dealers, he just happened to That's what he said. 59 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:57,760 Speaker 1: He this one particular dealer, and he said, I knew 60 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: there was a scratch in the left front room and 61 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,520 Speaker 1: he said, I in, I paid for a tire rotation, 62 00:03:01,600 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: and I walked back out and the same scratched wheel 63 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,280 Speaker 1: was on the left front. The tire never got moved, 64 00:03:06,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 1: so he said, you know, did I get a tire rotation? 65 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,120 Speaker 1: Did I get anything done? And he said I had 66 00:03:11,120 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: to go back in an argue for a half hour 67 00:03:12,680 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: before they refunded my money and admitted that maybe they 68 00:03:15,680 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: didn't know that, maybe it got rotated, maybe it didn't. 69 00:03:19,240 --> 00:03:22,320 Speaker 1: I just it's mind boggling. I don't understand how we 70 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: have that kind of situation, why it comes up. Well, 71 00:03:25,480 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: I guess I do, but you know, I just rotate 72 00:03:28,520 --> 00:03:31,280 Speaker 1: the tires like it's not hard. You know, this industry 73 00:03:31,320 --> 00:03:35,040 Speaker 1: has enough going on, you know. Danny told the story 74 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: he had a friend that thought he wanted to be 75 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: a mechanic. He was working at a local dealership, and 76 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: if the vehicle came in and the oil filter was 77 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: too hard to get to and it was a new vehicle, 78 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 1: he never changed the filter. And his attitude was, Hey, 79 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 1: it's under warranty. What do I care. You know, if 80 00:03:51,600 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 1: the engine blows up, the manufacturer will cover it. And 81 00:03:55,520 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: you know, where's the work ethic, where's the sense of responsibility, 82 00:03:58,440 --> 00:04:01,000 Speaker 1: where's the sense of pride? You know, I can understand 83 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: why everybody out there is upset with mechanics because of 84 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:06,360 Speaker 1: the few stupid individuals that are in it and the 85 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:10,320 Speaker 1: nonsense that they do, it's it's it's just ridiculous. Wait 86 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,920 Speaker 1: a minute, yes, or wait, if the engine blows up 87 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: because the oil filter wasn't changed, it'll be covered under warranty. 88 00:04:16,440 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 1: Now wouldn't that be a wouldn't the warranty be avoided 89 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: if you didn't change the oil and filter as well 90 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: described in the manual. They would change the oil so 91 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:29,440 Speaker 1: the oil would be fresh, they just wouldn't change the filter, 92 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 1: so you'd have a quart of dirty oil or pint 93 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 1: the dirty oil in the filter. And they used freight. 94 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: But but that maintenance is described in the manual. So 95 00:04:37,040 --> 00:04:39,720 Speaker 1: how would that be covered under warranty? If it was neglected? 96 00:04:39,760 --> 00:04:42,160 Speaker 1: How would you not understand? How would they prove it? 97 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,520 Speaker 1: They they that that well, that's a good question. But 98 00:04:46,520 --> 00:04:48,720 Speaker 1: if it's got a factory filter on it, right, if 99 00:04:48,720 --> 00:04:51,800 Speaker 1: it's got a factory filter on it, and you know 100 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:56,200 Speaker 1: if if the factory you're using factory filters, um, you know, 101 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,919 Speaker 1: it's it's how would you know? And that's yeah, Tom, 102 00:05:00,440 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: and that's an issue. You know, you got to find 103 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: somebody with a passion for this business. And I talk 104 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: about this all the time. I'll tell you a quick story. 105 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:15,080 Speaker 1: Tom brought up something. We use Subaru oil filters on Subarus. 106 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 1: That's all we'll use. I just you know, there's something 107 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: about you. A customer comes in with a Subaru and 108 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:21,920 Speaker 1: you do the oil chains and the oil filters right 109 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:23,760 Speaker 1: up top. There's something really great about you pop the 110 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 1: hood and they look and they see a super oil filter. 111 00:05:25,600 --> 00:05:28,360 Speaker 1: It says Subreu right on it. Sub brew a fifteen 112 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: a oil filter. The whole part numbers written out, Boom done. 113 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: You know, Suberru of America. The whole thing. It looks great. 114 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,359 Speaker 1: I can't stand. You know, some of these cheap dollar 115 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:41,480 Speaker 1: after market oil filters, they just you know, various manufacturers, 116 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:43,560 Speaker 1: and some of them have the flag printed on it. 117 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: Those are the ones I worry about the most. If 118 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: you've got to sell patriotism or push patriotism to sell 119 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: me your oil filter, then there's you know, what's what's 120 00:05:50,520 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: what's really in there? A roll of toilet paper, like, 121 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, what are we really doing? Well? This week 122 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: I ordered two cases of replacement sub Bru filters. I 123 00:05:59,520 --> 00:06:01,480 Speaker 1: figured let's stock up. You know, we were running low. 124 00:06:03,000 --> 00:06:05,360 Speaker 1: And I got these two brown boxes with a white 125 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,719 Speaker 1: label on it, and it no longer says Subaru of 126 00:06:08,760 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 1: America on the oil filter. It no longer says Subaru 127 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,640 Speaker 1: on the oil filter. And I had to do a 128 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,960 Speaker 1: bunch of research and I found a bulletin that talks 129 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: about the fact that Subaru is having product supply issues 130 00:06:23,240 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: and they don't say why, but they've changed their manufacturer 131 00:06:26,880 --> 00:06:29,839 Speaker 1: of oil filters to this. It's still a blue filter. 132 00:06:29,920 --> 00:06:32,040 Speaker 1: Now it's a bright blue filter. It looks kind of cheesy, 133 00:06:32,080 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: to be honest with you. And if you look real 134 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: close on the top in very small print, which is 135 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:40,160 Speaker 1: getting harder for those older mechanics to see, it says 136 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: SOA with this long part number. So it is a 137 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,800 Speaker 1: Subaru of Americ oil filters. They changed, and they're saying 138 00:06:46,839 --> 00:06:48,560 Speaker 1: that they may or may not go back to the 139 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: original design. They're having again, they're trying to get supply 140 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:56,279 Speaker 1: issues straightened out. It's they've changed manufacturers. You know, I 141 00:06:56,320 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: think Subaru's missing a real marketing opportunity because people get 142 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: used to seeing one thing on the vehicle. It's it's 143 00:07:06,240 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: nice you lift the hood any time to do anything. 144 00:07:07,760 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: It says super America right on the filter. It breeds 145 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:14,200 Speaker 1: confidence in the customer I really think it does to 146 00:07:14,280 --> 00:07:17,720 Speaker 1: a degree. You know, maybe a small point, but you know, 147 00:07:17,800 --> 00:07:20,160 Speaker 1: at least some sort of explanation. I think they should 148 00:07:20,200 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: be up there saying, hey, we're changing because of supply problems, 149 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 1: instead of the guys in the parts department where I 150 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: call it said, yeah, they don't know why they did it. 151 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:29,320 Speaker 1: They get the complaint all the time. People want that 152 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: original looking Superbru filter. They think it's a generic, cheap, 153 00:07:33,400 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: aftermarket blue oil filter that they're substituting on there because 154 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: nobody sees the SA. It's in such fine prints, so 155 00:07:40,400 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: you know, Tom images everything, and it takes a few 156 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: bad apples to ruin it for everybody. And then you 157 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 1: get one mechanic that's lazy, you know, and he doesn't 158 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 1: change the filter. It's under warranty. I get it. How 159 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 1: would they know? You know? It just it's it's interesting. 160 00:07:59,440 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: There isn't a old day that goes by in order repair, 161 00:08:02,240 --> 00:08:04,200 Speaker 1: you know. I once told Danny when I hired them, 162 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: going on twelve years ago. Now, I said, you're gonna 163 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,680 Speaker 1: see things that nobody else sees. You're gonna know things 164 00:08:08,720 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: nobody else knows, and I'm going to teach you things. 165 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:12,840 Speaker 1: Five percent of the guys in the industry, No, because 166 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: I've seen it, done it, and I've just got a 167 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 1: little bit of a different way of looking at it. 168 00:08:16,600 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 1: And if that sounds like it's a lot of ego, yeah, 169 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. It isn't. It's just reality. It's just 170 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:26,200 Speaker 1: what I say. I think more repair shops get themselves 171 00:08:26,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: in trouble just because of the simple things and the 172 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 1: things they don't see. And then I think the other 173 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:34,400 Speaker 1: ninety five percent of the problem. Five percent of the 174 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,880 Speaker 1: time it's the shop, at the other time it's the customer. 175 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: I want to say it's that much. I'd say it's 176 00:08:39,640 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: probably fifty percent of time it's the customer. The other 177 00:08:41,440 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: forty five percent of the time it's the vehicle. Because 178 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,679 Speaker 1: weird things happen with cars, they really do. We had 179 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:48,520 Speaker 1: a suber Bru this week. We're talking about suber Us. 180 00:08:48,559 --> 00:08:51,040 Speaker 1: We had a sub Bru this week. THEO brought us 181 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 1: her Subaru and we changed the oil. And when I 182 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,719 Speaker 1: did the oil change, I noticed that THEO had an 183 00:08:56,720 --> 00:08:59,839 Speaker 1: oil leak down underneath between the engine and the transmission. 184 00:09:00,960 --> 00:09:05,040 Speaker 1: Now directly to the left of the oil leak where 185 00:09:05,080 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 1: the two O two censors the two downstream MO two's 186 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:11,840 Speaker 1: Bank one Bank two. I was very careful, very gently sprayed, 187 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: trying to wipe away the oil because I wanted to 188 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: add a diye. And the next time it comes back, 189 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, how big is the leak? Is it still there? 190 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,160 Speaker 1: Is it? Is it growing? Is it? Is it something? 191 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 1: We have to address this? Vehicles seven on eight years old, 192 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: one hundred thousand something miles um vehicle came back thirty 193 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: five minutes later with a check engine light on and 194 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,760 Speaker 1: a fault code for fuel trim on the on Bank two. 195 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:33,319 Speaker 1: Does it have a bad O two censor? I don't know. 196 00:09:33,360 --> 00:09:35,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna find out Monday. I got to diagnose it 197 00:09:35,800 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 1: the rest of the way and look at it. Um 198 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: I saw nig. I saw a short term fuel trim 199 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 1: positive thirty five percent, So something skewing fuel trim on 200 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:45,680 Speaker 1: bank too. I'm thinking the O two censor has the 201 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: most direct access. And my point becomes, you know whose 202 00:09:49,480 --> 00:09:51,880 Speaker 1: fault is that? Do you not wash off the oil leak? 203 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,000 Speaker 1: Do you not diagnosed the oil leak? Do you not care? 204 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 1: And you know there's that there's that forty five percent 205 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 1: car um. Fortunately, the is very patient, and she's willing 206 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:03,880 Speaker 1: to wait and watch us work it out because we 207 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: have that relationship and she trusts us, and we're back 208 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 1: to that trust thing. But imagine it's somebody that came 209 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: in for the first time, which is why we don't 210 00:10:10,920 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 1: let a lot of new people in the shop. That's 211 00:10:12,400 --> 00:10:16,200 Speaker 1: a whole nother story. So, um, just the things that 212 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 1: happen in order repair. Take that. Just take that to 213 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 1: the bank and see what happens. You know, how do 214 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: you know your mechanics changing the filter? Maybe they are 215 00:10:24,440 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 1: and maybe they aren't. It's under warranty. Don't worry, they'll 216 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: fix it. A five five five six zero nine nine 217 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:32,640 Speaker 1: zero zero. I got you all thinking. Now I can 218 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:35,120 Speaker 1: hear your wheels turn and eight five five five six 219 00:10:35,200 --> 00:10:36,880 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. Run in any of the 220 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 1: car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Don't go away, 221 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: whether it's a little red Corvette or you go. You've 222 00:10:51,920 --> 00:10:53,880 Speaker 1: come to the right place to get that car fixed. 223 00:10:54,160 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 1: Ron and ay in the car doctor eight five five 224 00:10:56,679 --> 00:11:01,880 Speaker 1: five six zero nine nine zero zero. Now drawn and listen. 225 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:04,720 Speaker 1: I can tell you stories. You know. I always seem 226 00:11:04,760 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: to say this guy in a dealer, that guy in 227 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,040 Speaker 1: the dealer. I can tell your horror stories about independent 228 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: repair shops too. There's the same amount of idiots in 229 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: those shops also. I mean, it's it's it's you know, 230 00:11:12,760 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: stupidity knows no boundaries. As I like to say. You know, 231 00:11:16,120 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 1: I'm floored by the amount of shocks. Some of the 232 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,720 Speaker 1: local chain stores around US just continue to sell twenty 233 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,679 Speaker 1: twenty automobiles too, going on three years old, forty fifty 234 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:27,800 Speaker 1: thousand miles, and they're selling shock absorbers that there's just 235 00:11:27,880 --> 00:11:30,719 Speaker 1: no way they're bad. They're no way they're leaking. And 236 00:11:30,800 --> 00:11:34,319 Speaker 1: to that point, half of them are covered under extended 237 00:11:34,320 --> 00:11:37,079 Speaker 1: warranty or regular manufacturers warranty, and they're getting people to 238 00:11:37,120 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: pay for these aftermarket replacements. So, you know, it's that relationship. 239 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,280 Speaker 1: If there's one theme I guess in this weekend's show, 240 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,120 Speaker 1: you know that relationship you have with that mechanic, that 241 00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:50,760 Speaker 1: person that will you know, talk to you and explain 242 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: things to you is just so important. You know. One 243 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: of the things I always do I do personally is 244 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,719 Speaker 1: I qualify everybody. Is it is it? You know? How 245 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: are you using the car? How do you want to 246 00:12:01,280 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 1: be you plan to keep the car? Do you have 247 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: any comments, questions, concerns, complaints. I think that's the approach, 248 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,079 Speaker 1: not just you need you need, you need, you need 249 00:12:08,120 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 1: you need. So I know what I need to do. 250 00:12:10,200 --> 00:12:12,560 Speaker 1: I need to get over to the phones because Brian's 251 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: waiting there very patiently in Philly, and after I get 252 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:17,439 Speaker 1: the cheese steak report, he's gonna talk to me about 253 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: I don't know what, Brian, how are you today? Thanks 254 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: for waiting, buddy, Ron, how are you? I'm good man? 255 00:12:23,200 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 1: What's going on? You? And Tom got to get down here. 256 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,320 Speaker 1: Chee steaks on me? Oh boy, boiled watch it. Tom 257 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,240 Speaker 1: can need his weight and cheese steaks. I've seen him 258 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: meet so yeah, yeah, a bunch as you guys want 259 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,080 Speaker 1: on me. All right, here's my question. A friend of 260 00:12:38,080 --> 00:12:41,920 Speaker 1: mine's a fleet a fleet manager at UPS and UM 261 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,160 Speaker 1: there a lot of their tractor trailers and package cars 262 00:12:45,360 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: run on natural gas. Sure, and I know we don't 263 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,880 Speaker 1: have a national infrastructure, but this is this a cleaner 264 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 1: fuel to run on as opposed to regular gasoline? I 265 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: believe it to be a cleaner fuel. Is still a 266 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: carbon based fuel, so there is still you know, you're 267 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:08,520 Speaker 1: still emitting a certain amount of pollution. UM, it's also 268 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:11,080 Speaker 1: depending upon where you are, I think there are some 269 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 1: cost savings. You know, the issue becomes the biggest issue 270 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: is why aren't we doing that on a national scale? 271 00:13:17,000 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 1: Is can you imagine trying to pipe natural gas lines 272 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:26,400 Speaker 1: over the mountains? You know, yeah, it's it's you know again, 273 00:13:26,440 --> 00:13:29,440 Speaker 1: it's the infrastructure, it's it's the cost of carrying the water, 274 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: so to speak. Uh. You know, I travel to Pittsburgh 275 00:13:33,360 --> 00:13:35,960 Speaker 1: on a regular basis to see family, and I always 276 00:13:35,960 --> 00:13:38,680 Speaker 1: cut through the Altuna Pa area. Hide to all the 277 00:13:38,679 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: gang out there in Altuna Pa. And you know, how 278 00:13:43,080 --> 00:13:45,480 Speaker 1: are they going to get their energy? And there's there's 279 00:13:46,360 --> 00:13:50,360 Speaker 1: thousands of pockets of towns across America with you know, 280 00:13:50,480 --> 00:13:52,760 Speaker 1: how are we going to get them energy? You know 281 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,240 Speaker 1: the whole thing about the transition. Do we need to 282 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,920 Speaker 1: clean up the environment? Yes, but everybody needs to clean 283 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: up the environment. And and I've said this for years, 284 00:14:01,480 --> 00:14:03,840 Speaker 1: it's great that America is trying to clean up their 285 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:07,200 Speaker 1: their their gas act, so to speak. But you know, 286 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:09,920 Speaker 1: what about other nations? What about China? What about India? 287 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 1: What about Mexico? What about you know anybody else in 288 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:15,320 Speaker 1: this hemisphere? Are they doing it as well? And I 289 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:18,439 Speaker 1: haven't seen any reports to convince me of that. Um, 290 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:23,200 Speaker 1: you know, should we do fleets like UPS in natural gas? Yeah, 291 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 1: I think that's great. FedEx ups Amazon for sure, you know. 292 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 1: Or do we convert do we convert them to electric? Yeah? 293 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:32,840 Speaker 1: Why not? I think all delivery vehicles should be on 294 00:14:33,400 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: some other form of you know, operational renewable energy other 295 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 1: than gasoline. I think it would be great. I just 296 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 1: can't see it for the messes, you know. I I 297 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: think that's the problem. Um, FedEx didn't do it. They do. 298 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:54,040 Speaker 1: It's pretty much as UPS right now. FedEx I used 299 00:14:54,040 --> 00:14:55,840 Speaker 1: to work for them. They have no intention of doing 300 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 1: what they have to do unless they're mandated to do it. 301 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: U IPS has been doing it for years. But like 302 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:04,400 Speaker 1: I said, they have a big they have a big facility, 303 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,520 Speaker 1: you know, near me in the suburbs of Philadelphia, and 304 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: they have they have you know, the big tanks for it. 305 00:15:08,560 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 1: They have the infrastructure, they have tons of vehicles to 306 00:15:11,120 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 1: do it. And U as far as mechanically, they've been 307 00:15:14,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: very effective. They haven't had problems with them in the 308 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,120 Speaker 1: tractor trailers or the package cars. I mean, they've the 309 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:24,560 Speaker 1: longevity is there. It's been as good as diesel fuel 310 00:15:24,640 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: as far as the longevity, uh, you know, in the 311 00:15:27,680 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: engines of especially the tractor trailers. You know, I remember 312 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:36,600 Speaker 1: when natural guests first became an option in vehicles. I 313 00:15:36,640 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: guess it was fifteen twenty years ago. The issue was 314 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:43,760 Speaker 1: in cold weather, they didn't operate as well, and they 315 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: made some changes to the engines and they made some 316 00:15:45,480 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: modifications and they figured it out. You know. Now the 317 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: concern is if you increase the volume of the amount 318 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:56,600 Speaker 1: of vehicles on natural gas, it's getting the fuel to 319 00:15:56,720 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: the different places. At home, we have a generator and 320 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 1: it runs on natural gas piped in, you know, through 321 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: our natural gas line. Well, when we were when we 322 00:16:06,560 --> 00:16:08,320 Speaker 1: did the generator at home, we were one of the 323 00:16:08,320 --> 00:16:12,200 Speaker 1: first on the block to get it. And then over time, probably, 324 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: oh I don't know, four or five years later, every 325 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,040 Speaker 1: time the generator would fire up on its test run, 326 00:16:19,080 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: it was fine. But then when it fired up for 327 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: a disaster, when when we lost electricity, it would struggle 328 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: and it wouldn't be able to put out. It took 329 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: a while for it to get up on its legs 330 00:16:28,200 --> 00:16:30,680 Speaker 1: and really do its job, and sometimes it wouldn't stay 331 00:16:30,760 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: running at all, and it took a while to figure 332 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,600 Speaker 1: it out. It turns out that as I'm standing outside 333 00:16:35,600 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 1: trying to think why my generator is not running and 334 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:40,680 Speaker 1: I'm hearing everybody else's generator run, it's because the supply 335 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:45,920 Speaker 1: the pressure drop. Because now everybody's on natural gas. We 336 00:16:46,000 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 1: had a called PSC and g in to increase the 337 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:50,240 Speaker 1: size of the line from whatever two inch to four inch, 338 00:16:50,480 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 1: and now we can flow more and it fixed the problem. 339 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 1: Can you imagine trying to make everybody on natural gas 340 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: and increasing the problem or increasing the size of the pipe, 341 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: you know, to flow more. It's it's so it's got 342 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 1: to be a fleet thing. It's got to be everything's 343 00:17:06,760 --> 00:17:10,320 Speaker 1: in a central location. But then what's the cost factor? 344 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: And I don't have that answer. Well, also, there's been 345 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:17,480 Speaker 1: transportation systems has been city um you know, there's been 346 00:17:17,560 --> 00:17:20,719 Speaker 1: cities with their buses. Trash trucks run on at certain cities. 347 00:17:20,720 --> 00:17:22,880 Speaker 1: But they have an infort, they have a set of infrastructure, 348 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:25,440 Speaker 1: they have enough of the tank. They can get enough 349 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: of it because they use enough of it. Yep. And 350 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 1: and you know, I know Tom where Tom lives up 351 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: state New York, that all the school buses up there 352 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,399 Speaker 1: are natural guests, so it could be done. But again 353 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,439 Speaker 1: it's everything comes into one location. They get filled up, 354 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:41,640 Speaker 1: they know the route they're gonna, you know, make fourteen 355 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 1: left turns and five right turns, and you know they're 356 00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: gonna run twenty seven point two miles and then come 357 00:17:46,080 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: back to the to the to the barn to get refueled. 358 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,920 Speaker 1: So you know, that's a very very feasible thing. But 359 00:17:52,920 --> 00:17:57,520 Speaker 1: you know, for us, as you know, transportation every everywhere else. 360 00:17:57,760 --> 00:17:59,359 Speaker 1: You know, one of the big things I read about 361 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: the problems with the transition to anything other than gasoline. 362 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: They talk about it the societal changes. Are we ready 363 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: to change and run something other than gas between comfort 364 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,200 Speaker 1: and reliability and ease of access. I don't think the 365 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:17,440 Speaker 1: American pulpic is ready to change like that. I really don't. 366 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: I'm run a ninny in the car doctor. Eight five 367 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:22,119 Speaker 1: five five zero nine nine zero zero. Let's hear from you. 368 00:18:22,359 --> 00:18:49,440 Speaker 1: I'll return right after this. Hey, run a Ninny the 369 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: car doctor. Welcome back. Let's get over to Michael in Michigan. 370 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:54,960 Speaker 1: Let's have some conversation here about evs and stuff. Hey, Michael, 371 00:18:55,000 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: how are you? What can I do for you? I'm 372 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,280 Speaker 1: vertical Okay, cool, I guess that's good. Yeah, it's always 373 00:19:01,320 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: a positive. Five more months and I'll be seventy. Wow 374 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:06,840 Speaker 1: cool beans. Hey, I'm catching up to you. So you 375 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: keep going, brother, So what's on your mind today, dearborn Michigan. 376 00:19:13,920 --> 00:19:17,120 Speaker 1: They and the truck plant for the electric trucks they 377 00:19:17,200 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 1: part had one built and they put it out back 378 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:23,560 Speaker 1: and it burned up in one next to it. They 379 00:19:23,640 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: shut they shut those the truck production down. What manufacturer 380 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:35,439 Speaker 1: was Michael, huh? What manufacturer was this board? Okay? One 381 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: of their pickup trucks. Yep. And another thing. It takes 382 00:19:42,280 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: ten acres of mining for a dinosaurs not I'm calling 383 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:56,600 Speaker 1: that that. And they got children working in the mines 384 00:19:56,760 --> 00:20:01,400 Speaker 1: in Africa. Miners. Sister said there was a little boy 385 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:07,040 Speaker 1: standing and a little girl squatting, and that stuff can 386 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:13,000 Speaker 1: end up giving them cancer. A lot of people probably 387 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: don't know that. Yeah, there there there are actually daminations 388 00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: that's going to give when it comes here. Well, there's 389 00:20:20,760 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: actually stories now. The New York Times had an article 390 00:20:23,400 --> 00:20:25,480 Speaker 1: last summer. I think it was about you know, it's 391 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:29,120 Speaker 1: they're considering its slave labor in some of the countries 392 00:20:29,119 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 1: in Africa. They are the children that are mining the 393 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:35,119 Speaker 1: lithium for the evs, and yeah, some of the some 394 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:37,320 Speaker 1: of the issues. Let me ask you a question. You're 395 00:20:37,359 --> 00:20:40,959 Speaker 1: you're up there in the Dearborn area. No, I'm up 396 00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:44,360 Speaker 1: here in the top of the pier County, Okay. It's 397 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: about about twenty six miles north of sixty nine. So 398 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 1: did you see Detroit and Dearborn And it's heyday when 399 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:55,680 Speaker 1: they were the you know, when it was the car 400 00:20:55,760 --> 00:21:00,800 Speaker 1: mecca of the world. I started working from gym and 401 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: ninety seventy eight. How different is it today? Just about 402 00:21:09,080 --> 00:21:12,840 Speaker 1: all gone and the unions ain't far before they go 403 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: out the door. And that goes for the employees. They're 404 00:21:17,000 --> 00:21:21,040 Speaker 1: trying to push this car stuff off on everybody and 405 00:21:21,960 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: it ain't gonna work. I could solve a lot of 406 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:31,280 Speaker 1: the problems, but too much evil, Yeah in the gym, 407 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: and I ain't going to help them. They could pay 408 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:40,159 Speaker 1: me a million me and a hundred threeion dollars and 409 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:44,440 Speaker 1: make me dictator of the country and you still couldn't 410 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,000 Speaker 1: get them to do what needs to be done. What 411 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,879 Speaker 1: do you think needs to be done, Michael, to fix it, 412 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:51,720 Speaker 1: to bring evies to the morning. I'm not telling that 413 00:21:51,720 --> 00:21:55,960 Speaker 1: that's my secret. Okay, you won't even tell me. Now, 414 00:21:55,960 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 1: i'd even tell you because you're on radio. Well, yeah, 415 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: that's true. Sometimes I forget that. But I'm I'm mentally 416 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: handicapped and disabled. I look at things different than other people. 417 00:22:10,320 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: And too many educated idiots think they got it all 418 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: figured out. It's a pipe dream. The way they're doing it. 419 00:22:17,520 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: It's nothing but a pipe dream. And they can't get 420 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:25,199 Speaker 1: to the money right, and that's what's killing them. And 421 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:27,520 Speaker 1: if they did what's right, it's gonna take the money 422 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,399 Speaker 1: out of that pipe dream. Let me ask you this, Michael, 423 00:22:30,480 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: let me change the tone of the conversation if I 424 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,720 Speaker 1: can raise a hand, change the subject. What kind of 425 00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:36,880 Speaker 1: cars did you build for GM back in seventy eight 426 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:45,880 Speaker 1: we met we uh se Well, I don't remember because 427 00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 1: I was only there for a short time or seven 428 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: day eighty four to eighty seven. We built Grand Nationals 429 00:22:54,960 --> 00:23:02,880 Speaker 1: of oldsmobiles and pouty ax. Yeah, what department? What department 430 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: were you in? I was in paint Okay, So were 431 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:09,760 Speaker 1: you a painter or a prep guy or what? I 432 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: was a painter? Yeah? So you know, how often did 433 00:23:13,920 --> 00:23:16,040 Speaker 1: it did it work out? Where every car got painted 434 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: the right color? Was it ever? You know I've heard 435 00:23:17,920 --> 00:23:24,040 Speaker 1: stories where two I've heard about the truck and butts 436 00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:26,239 Speaker 1: plant and the guy went and picked his car up 437 00:23:26,280 --> 00:23:29,440 Speaker 1: at the truck and bus plant, and when he went 438 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,359 Speaker 1: to pick it up at the dealers, he says, the 439 00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,120 Speaker 1: front seat. It's the back seat pushed the match the 440 00:23:35,119 --> 00:23:39,760 Speaker 1: front seat, and they can't. They can get fine, real 441 00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:44,040 Speaker 1: heavy if if a GMC comes out the door with 442 00:23:44,200 --> 00:23:47,400 Speaker 1: a Chevallet, m M, my momma, and I can tell 443 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:50,640 Speaker 1: see Ron later on. I'm gonna get me a tablet 444 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: where I can do better because these magnetic grid people 445 00:23:55,480 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: coming here all illegal is drawing the juice of these farms, 446 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,840 Speaker 1: and the magnet agrid is shipped in like crazy. Right, 447 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: one of these times we might end up down solve Hey, 448 00:24:08,600 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 1: not that we want to, right, but you might. Ron. 449 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: I got one other question, questions real quick. When you're 450 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 1: just to connect the ground, can you damage anything on 451 00:24:21,119 --> 00:24:25,800 Speaker 1: what uh chevallet vehicles? Oh, I mean if you disconnect 452 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,480 Speaker 1: the negative cable. Yeah, well you're on a on a 453 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,600 Speaker 1: late model GM product when you just connect, probably in 454 00:24:33,640 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: the nineties, and uh, I've got them all the way 455 00:24:37,240 --> 00:24:41,040 Speaker 1: back to the eighties. Well, what you mean cars in 456 00:24:41,119 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: your own fleet? Yep. Now, if there's no computer, then 457 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 1: they weren't that smart, and they'll they'll learn fairly quick. 458 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 1: The newer vehicles have a higher learning capacity or a 459 00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,800 Speaker 1: higher learning characteristic, Like the newest vehicle I got is 460 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: a two thousand and one. Yeah. Nah, you know if 461 00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 1: in terms of you want to disconnect the battery for 462 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:10,680 Speaker 1: storage purposes, yeah, like that, or or I can. I'm 463 00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: gonna have to go to a battery, car battery and 464 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: a car radio to be able to listen to you 465 00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:27,120 Speaker 1: because the solar blackout is really messed up my solar radios, right, yeah, 466 00:25:27,119 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: there is a solar black pollution is because where we've 467 00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: had so much in the last six months, there is 468 00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,280 Speaker 1: a solar blackoutcoming. I believe Tom was telling me about that. 469 00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 1: Um well, I call it solar blackout because again't getting 470 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:41,959 Speaker 1: the radio's work alone, or not right right right right? 471 00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 1: Then not getting enough fun? Yeah. So yeah, and that's well, 472 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:47,479 Speaker 1: we're supposed to have something I think some kind of 473 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 1: solar eclipse. I think is uh, I think is what's 474 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 1: going on? Um So, Michael, I enjoyed the conversation with 475 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: your brother and uh, you hang in there and uh, 476 00:25:57,640 --> 00:25:59,040 Speaker 1: you know when you're ready to talk and you want 477 00:25:59,040 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: to expose everybody on national radio and talk about evs, 478 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: You're always welcome back eight five five six zero nine 479 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: nine zero zero. Run any of the car doctor. I'll 480 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:22,960 Speaker 1: be back right after this. Don't go away. Welcome back 481 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:25,080 Speaker 1: running any of the car doctor. UM, quick piece of 482 00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:27,080 Speaker 1: email because I want to respond to this run. I 483 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,160 Speaker 1: prefer not to call in. I usually listened on podcast 484 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: and I'm short on time. How can I change the 485 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,480 Speaker 1: battery in my twenty fourteen Silverado and twenty sixteen Jeep 486 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 1: Rennigade without causing issues such as computer settings, radio, etc. 487 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 1: Is this even a concern? Years ago, there used to 488 00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: be things that plugged into a cigarette lighter. Yeah, I'm 489 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:46,119 Speaker 1: that old that ran off a nine volt battery that 490 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:48,480 Speaker 1: were supposed to hold the settings while you changed the battery. 491 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,880 Speaker 1: I never found those to work. I really didn't. Got 492 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: a new battery for a g plast fall and he 493 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: plugged in a battery pack and that's the computer connector 494 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:56,960 Speaker 1: to the left of the steering wheel near the floor. 495 00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: Is there anything for a non professional that would work 496 00:26:59,520 --> 00:27:02,080 Speaker 1: and not the bank. I'm open to suggestions. I've recently 497 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: acquired a NOC jump pack. With that work, I want 498 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: to I don't want to do something that would overload 499 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 1: the system and damage and I'm smart enough to ask 500 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:10,879 Speaker 1: someone like you can get a knowledgeable answer. Thanks, and 501 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: feel free to write that if you're read it on 502 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,240 Speaker 1: the show. Mike, you know what, Mike, Yeah, you want 503 00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,480 Speaker 1: to plug into the OBED two diagnostic port, which is 504 00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: located to the lets to the steering wheel on that vehicle. 505 00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 1: It's to the left of the right on vehicles by 506 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,760 Speaker 1: federal emissions mandate in nineteen ninety one, and the vehicle 507 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:29,119 Speaker 1: OBED two emissions equipped at beginning model you're in nineteen 508 00:27:29,200 --> 00:27:31,960 Speaker 1: ninety six. The two connector has to be in the 509 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: vicinity of the steering wheel. They made that the focal point. 510 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:37,960 Speaker 1: You want to use a battery jump pack. It's just 511 00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: important because it will help retain onboard computer settings, you know, 512 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 1: to keep things active. Why well, because here I'll tell 513 00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: you a story. We recently had a vehicle that the 514 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: customer had gone to a shop to have a battery replaced. 515 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,399 Speaker 1: They replaced the battery, they didn't use the jump pack, 516 00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:01,920 Speaker 1: and they put a battery in the vehicle and as 517 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: the vehicle was running its monitors, right, what happens. Disconnect 518 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:09,320 Speaker 1: the battery, there's no memory save. It will reclear the 519 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: computer's memory and it will cause it to rerun its 520 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:17,639 Speaker 1: monitors its self tests without any without any other indications, 521 00:28:17,640 --> 00:28:20,440 Speaker 1: any other problems. The vehicle set up P zero four 522 00:28:20,560 --> 00:28:25,520 Speaker 1: twenty catalytic converter efficiency faull Gee, How could the CaCO 523 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 1: bad that quick? And it was a GM product that 524 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:32,680 Speaker 1: did it, And it was just you know what changed 525 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:36,720 Speaker 1: what made all that difference? And in looking at it, 526 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,320 Speaker 1: we could see that when we looked at mode six data, 527 00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Speaker 1: it failed by not by that much. It was a percentage. Now, 528 00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:46,960 Speaker 1: one of the things you have to know about some 529 00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,280 Speaker 1: of the gms as they age is there is an 530 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: O two sensor or an O two sensor heat or 531 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: recalibration function that will tell the computer, Hey, we want 532 00:28:57,440 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: you to get reacquainted with the O two sensor because 533 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:03,280 Speaker 1: it's an older sensor. We had a clear memory. We 534 00:29:03,320 --> 00:29:06,920 Speaker 1: want you to learn as you go. We did an 535 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 1: O two sensor recalibration and drove the vehicle. It failed again, 536 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 1: but we could see by mode six it didn't fail 537 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,680 Speaker 1: by that much. The numbers were getting shorter. It failed 538 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:22,080 Speaker 1: two more times before we had driven enough miles for 539 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:25,840 Speaker 1: the computer to finished looking at its rolling average, and 540 00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 1: it now realized it had now learned those older O 541 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: twos that we didn't replace because they didn't need to 542 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,640 Speaker 1: be replaced, but they were older O twos original to 543 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:39,640 Speaker 1: this vehicle with the miles that's on it, and the 544 00:29:39,760 --> 00:29:44,640 Speaker 1: vehicle finally accepted it. Does that make sense? And you 545 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:46,920 Speaker 1: know it had a memory pack or a battery pack 546 00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: been used, I don't think you would have had that problem. 547 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, it is that important. It is an issue. 548 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:58,960 Speaker 1: Now you need an OBED two style battery pack, something 549 00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:01,280 Speaker 1: that plugs into the jumpack and then plugs into the 550 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: OBD two connector. And it's getting to the point now 551 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:06,640 Speaker 1: where some sort of a jump pack in every vehicle 552 00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,800 Speaker 1: a chicken in every pot, as I like to say, 553 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,840 Speaker 1: but some sort of a jump pack in every vehicle 554 00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 1: is important because you know, when are you going to 555 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: have a jumpstart issue, a battery fail issue that you 556 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:21,440 Speaker 1: know needs to be resolved. Just that important. One of 557 00:30:21,480 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: the thing to think about when you're picking a battery 558 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:29,760 Speaker 1: is there's two concerns. There's physical dimension. You know, will 559 00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 1: it fit in. Batteries go in group numbers. You can 560 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: look on a battery group twenty four, a group twenty six, 561 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 1: group thirty five, group seventy eight, and so on, and 562 00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: that's the physical dimensions. Now, some cars, Fords, for example, 563 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:44,920 Speaker 1: will either run a group fifty nine or a group 564 00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: sixty five to sixty five group battery is much bigger 565 00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:51,120 Speaker 1: than the fifty nine same amount of electrical energy, but 566 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: you generally have the option for more electrical energy on 567 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: a physically bigger case sized battery. So that's one reason 568 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 1: to go to it. And then the other is what 569 00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,800 Speaker 1: is the electrical energy? You know, do you have the 570 00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:07,560 Speaker 1: ability can you put you know, if the factory size 571 00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: or at the factory rating is five hundred and fifty 572 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: ccas cold cranking amps, which is think of it as 573 00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:16,040 Speaker 1: when you get out of bed in the morning on 574 00:31:16,040 --> 00:31:19,600 Speaker 1: a cold morning, how many push ups can you do? All? Right? 575 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:22,000 Speaker 1: Can you do ten? If you can do ten, maybe 576 00:31:22,040 --> 00:31:26,040 Speaker 1: that's the five fifty CCA battery in terms of electrical 577 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,400 Speaker 1: energy that'll be available. If you can do twenty, you know, 578 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: maybe that's the six hundred and fifty Cca battery. Because 579 00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,600 Speaker 1: it has a higher output it can put out more 580 00:31:37,040 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 1: under a peak situation. Bottom line, there's a physical measurement, 581 00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520 Speaker 1: there's an electrical energy measurement. Cold cranking amps is a 582 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: good rule of thumb, and you want to look at 583 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 1: that as well. But yeah, you know what, Michael, you 584 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:50,360 Speaker 1: do want to have some sort of battery pack to 585 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:53,840 Speaker 1: remain to retain memory because you want to try to 586 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: avoid clearing the computer causing it to go into a reset, 587 00:31:57,280 --> 00:32:01,320 Speaker 1: because you could create a false code situation and have 588 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,920 Speaker 1: to learn the hard way that it had nothing to 589 00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: do with componentry. Um. It has to just do with 590 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,160 Speaker 1: age and relearning, proper procedure, proper way five five six 591 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,240 Speaker 1: zero nine nine zero zero. I'm run a nay in 592 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: the car doctor. I'll be back right after this. Don't 593 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: go away, dot, welcome back. Run name the car doctor. 594 00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: And um, yeah, it's important that your scan tool have 595 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:37,480 Speaker 1: that agil to do. Uh. Tom's Tom's Tom's slippy fingers So, um, 596 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 1: Tom's eating again on the board. I can tell this 597 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: his fingers are slipping. Uh. It's important to have a 598 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: scan tool. They can do that function to do O 599 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 1: two sensor recalibration and O two censor heat or relearn 600 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:48,200 Speaker 1: UM and some of the other things that's required. So 601 00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,840 Speaker 1: changing a battery is not is not as simple as 602 00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,320 Speaker 1: it once was. And by the way, I should point 603 00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: out too um in relation to when you're picking a battery. 604 00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,880 Speaker 1: UH to finish up that conversation before the break, to 605 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:00,960 Speaker 1: get out to auto batteries dot com. Order batteries. Dot 606 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,720 Speaker 1: Com has all the information you need on picking a battery, 607 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:05,840 Speaker 1: and it talks about things such as how to choose 608 00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,760 Speaker 1: a proper battery, cca physical size, things like that. So 609 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: I always ask the same question. You know, I'm a 610 00:33:11,880 --> 00:33:14,160 Speaker 1: I'm a creature of habit. Whenever I go out to 611 00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,280 Speaker 1: buy a battery, I want to know what does the 612 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 1: next What does twenty dollars get me? What does thirty 613 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 1: dollars get me? How much is it to get to 614 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: the next size up of electrical energy not physical size, 615 00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: but electrical storage capacity in that battery? And I usually 616 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: get a much more How can I say this, I 617 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,120 Speaker 1: get a better or a bigger electrical battery, not physical 618 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 1: size but electrical source for that extra twenty or thirty dollars. 619 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:40,120 Speaker 1: And I find that sometimes that most of the time 620 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: that's usually translates into quicker starts, better starts, easier starts 621 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: in cold weather, that kind of thing, and longevity, which 622 00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,760 Speaker 1: I'm always looking for obviously, So hey coming up this 623 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 1: week April twelfth. This week April twelfth, if you're a 624 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:57,440 Speaker 1: member of the NNGK Shop Squad n GK NTK, they're 625 00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:01,840 Speaker 1: putting on a presentation via via the web Ultra Diagnostics 626 00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:05,200 Speaker 1: featuring Dodge and GM Diagnostics. They're going to be using 627 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: Autel scan tools as well as some others. Michael Flink, 628 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: who is the director of Sales and Training for Autel, 629 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: Philip Boston, NGK Technical Training Manager, and John for Autel 630 00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: Technical Training Specialist are all going to be in attendance. 631 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:22,399 Speaker 1: If you are a member of the NK Shop Squad, great, 632 00:34:22,480 --> 00:34:24,239 Speaker 1: make sure you're there. Sign up for it. If you're not, 633 00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:27,200 Speaker 1: and you want to get out to NNGK sparkplugs dot 634 00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: com or just Google search NNGK Shop Squad and it'll 635 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:33,359 Speaker 1: take you to the link shine up sign up. It's 636 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: a you know, for the professional shops out there, and 637 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:38,560 Speaker 1: you know, I'm sure to do it yourselfers can get in, 638 00:34:38,600 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: I'm guessing, but it's a great resource as well as 639 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: some of the other things the Shop Squad has. So 640 00:34:43,840 --> 00:34:46,359 Speaker 1: that's just an example of what they're doing that's coming up. 641 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: I think that's this Wednesday, this coming Wednesday, April twelve. 642 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,480 Speaker 1: So get out the GK Shop squad, sign up and 643 00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: get some knowledge. More knowledge is always a good thing. 644 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:58,239 Speaker 1: You can't have too much knowledge. Knowledge is power. I 645 00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:00,719 Speaker 1: heard somebody say that once. Who was that? It was 646 00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 1: me roninading and the car doctor reminding you once again, 647 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:06,680 Speaker 1: good mechanics aren't expensive, They're priceless. See you