1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL podcast is highly dependent on stimulus checks. 2 00:00:09,039 --> 00:00:12,640 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition at the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Hansis. I'm coming to you from 4 00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:21,439 Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes. Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal. 5 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: Expect those checks in the mail, six D big ones Marky. Mark. Yeah, 6 00:00:28,400 --> 00:00:30,800 Speaker 1: I don't. I'm not keeping an eye out for that 7 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,400 Speaker 1: um And when it arrives, it goes into a gigantic 8 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: abyss known as our credit card debts. So I'm not 9 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 1: you know what, what good does it? Doesn't do mean none? 10 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:42,000 Speaker 1: That should handle the credit card debt with with a 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: couple of dinners. Grubhub meals despair, right, no doubt that 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: I'm gonna spend it all on like cutting the line 13 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:52,840 Speaker 1: for the vaccine and like in a black market sort 14 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: of trade thing. There's a whole world out there, so 15 00:00:55,760 --> 00:00:58,440 Speaker 1: that's where my money's gone. That's good. A little peek 16 00:00:58,480 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: behind the curtain of the Around the End of FEL podcast. 17 00:01:01,280 --> 00:01:03,640 Speaker 1: Yes it is you. We were just here. We were 18 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:07,279 Speaker 1: just sitting in these chairs hours ago with our double 19 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:11,319 Speaker 1: episode recapping Week seventeen at the end of the regular 20 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 1: season and the seating of the playoffs. But we're back. 21 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,280 Speaker 1: Maybe we'll back in a big way because it is 22 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: black mud, No, not black Monday, because that's a negative connotation, 23 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 1: and we don't like negativity on the show. We like 24 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: positive stuff. We like positive affirmations. We want to look 25 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:33,039 Speaker 1: at the world in a different way away to see 26 00:01:33,080 --> 00:01:36,960 Speaker 1: the rainbows, not the storm clouds. That's why this is 27 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:45,200 Speaker 1: new horizons here in the NFL, a time where yes, coaching, 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:50,360 Speaker 1: the coaching deck gets shuffled, but hopefully when the dust clears, 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 1: everybody ends up with a job. Now that's not greg 30 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: something that's actually gonna happen, but you could hope that 31 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: everyone lands on their feet. Tough time of the year 32 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but also citing one for fans who 33 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,160 Speaker 1: want to see change in some guys you know, just 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: can take a little time off. Jim Schwartz, the Eagles coordinator, 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 1: longtime fan of his. He's just he's taking a year off, 36 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:18,320 Speaker 1: just chilling. At least he could issues leading with Jim 37 00:02:18,320 --> 00:02:22,600 Speaker 1: Schwartz on the show. I don't know's he's just trying 38 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 1: to take the ball and run with it. First day out, 39 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 1: mark your thoughts, well, I mean these guys, hey, it's 40 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,079 Speaker 1: a caravan where They just go from job to job, 41 00:02:31,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 1: no matter how poorly you do in the last one, 42 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 1: someone um who owes you a favor will hire you 43 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,280 Speaker 1: somewhere else, and they make a tremendous amount of money. 44 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: So for all the well, I mean, listen, I don't 45 00:02:41,720 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 1: want them to lose their jobs. But this is not 46 00:02:43,840 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 1: like um, you know, someone losing their last option in 47 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:49,800 Speaker 1: society and being thrown into a breadline. They are ultru 48 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 1: wealthy and rich and we wish them well. This is 49 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 1: like the opposite of the preamble that Straeger gives before, 50 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:01,480 Speaker 1: because not just fire in the head coach, you're firing 51 00:03:01,520 --> 00:03:03,799 Speaker 1: all the assistants who aren't making much money, and all 52 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: the families and all the children. Um, but Setter's just like, 53 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:11,480 Speaker 1: let's eat the rich. No, no, no, the children I 54 00:03:11,560 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: care about. If you get yanked out of seventh grade 55 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: and suddenly have to go to seventh grade in like Jacksonville, 56 00:03:17,360 --> 00:03:22,359 Speaker 1: that would be um traumatic. All right. So well, that's 57 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,359 Speaker 1: that's the way it is in our league. And and 58 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,080 Speaker 1: what Mark was initially alluding to was that, yes, this 59 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:31,079 Speaker 1: is a game of connections, and that's what you're gonna 60 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,839 Speaker 1: see in these next few weeks. How coaches, um and 61 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:39,960 Speaker 1: general managers and all these different um UH figures in 62 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:44,200 Speaker 1: the league. They all connect through their past to find 63 00:03:44,240 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: jobs for the future. It's gonna happen again. We're gonna 64 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 1: spin through everything that has gone down up to this point. 65 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: It's past six pm on the East Coast on Monday, 66 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: so let's start with Yes, let's just go through where 67 00:03:59,080 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: we're at in terms of the dismissals of head coaches. UH. 68 00:04:02,600 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 1: Doug Marone will start there. Jacksonville Jaguars. This was widely expected, 69 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 1: really felt that way for two years that Doug Maron 70 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:12,880 Speaker 1: was on the outs in Jacksonville. Now it happens. Time 71 00:04:12,960 --> 00:04:15,200 Speaker 1: is not great for Doug unfortunately, because it seems like 72 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: he's leaving right where when Jacksonville is a chance to 73 00:04:18,760 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: really um rise with the number one overall pick and 74 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: potentially Trevor Lawrence as well as a lot of cap space. 75 00:04:26,240 --> 00:04:29,560 Speaker 1: Shod Con spoke to the media after the announcement that 76 00:04:29,640 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: Maron was out UH. He thanked Doug for all his 77 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 1: work and then spoke about what it is that has 78 00:04:36,880 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: louded Jacksonville during his time as owner. What's evaded the 79 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,919 Speaker 1: history of the Jacks really has been a franchise quarterback. 80 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: And I think what's unique, uh certainly is that we 81 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 1: have the ability now to make a choice and it's 82 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 1: gonna define the franchise moving forward. Greg that the jacksonwner. 83 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:02,200 Speaker 1: Shot con also has to hire a m so GM 84 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:05,080 Speaker 1: head coach and the starting quarterbacks not in the building yet. 85 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:07,440 Speaker 1: This is a huge job, but also one that comes 86 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: with a lot of optimism. It does because they have 87 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: so much calf space and you assume that you're taking 88 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,920 Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence and that's all great, but you know, I 89 00:05:16,000 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: keep seeing it thrown out there. It's like, this is 90 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,920 Speaker 1: you know, this is the best job because it's great ownership, 91 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: it's this and that, and I guess I would just 92 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:28,599 Speaker 1: say like scoreboard at some point, I mean, this franchise 93 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: is all it's done is lost under shot Con. So 94 00:05:31,720 --> 00:05:34,440 Speaker 1: yet he seems like really smart on the business side 95 00:05:34,480 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: of things, but you're kind of split between London and Jacksonville. 96 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,680 Speaker 1: That that's one thing, and they've just you know, lost 97 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,279 Speaker 1: so much since he's been there. And then it's a 98 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,599 Speaker 1: red flag when he says in his press conference that 99 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,080 Speaker 1: he's gonna have final say on contracts and personnel, that 100 00:05:51,160 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: he did that pretty much over the last year, and 101 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:56,640 Speaker 1: I think, like, what other owner is doing that other 102 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: than Jerry Jones. And I basically am of the mind 103 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: that the more ownership is involved in football, the worst 104 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:04,840 Speaker 1: it is, so that that is a little worrisome. If 105 00:06:04,839 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: I was a Jaguars fan, Yeah, I tend to agree 106 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,679 Speaker 1: with you. And you know, I think that an owner's 107 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: job first and foremost is to hire successful people. And um, 108 00:06:14,880 --> 00:06:17,040 Speaker 1: I guess it's a positive trait that Shod Khan has 109 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,960 Speaker 1: been extremely patient with the people that he's hired. But um, 110 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:22,919 Speaker 1: we look at Doug Marone Dan to your point that 111 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 1: we feel like he could have been let go earlier 112 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: than he was. Um, Gus Bradley, you could have said 113 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: that David Caldwell, um had more lives than a cat 114 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:33,919 Speaker 1: in that franchise. And at some point it's like you, 115 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,799 Speaker 1: it's on Shod con to go hire the right people, 116 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,200 Speaker 1: and so urban Meyer's name pops up, and um, that's 117 00:06:40,200 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: gonna draw a ton of attention. He see. It seems 118 00:06:42,360 --> 00:06:44,919 Speaker 1: like they're to some degree sort of heat seeking on 119 00:06:44,960 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: the idea of that. If that's what's going on there, 120 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: I mean that would be a splashy higher that is 121 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 1: the former Ohio state coach Urban Meyer, who had a 122 00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: fantastic career as the coach of the buck Eyes. You've 123 00:06:55,160 --> 00:06:58,640 Speaker 1: also heard the current Ohio state coach Ryan Day bandied 124 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:02,119 Speaker 1: about as a potential option in Jacksonville. It's very clear 125 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:05,040 Speaker 1: it seems that with the big quarterback on the way, 126 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:07,279 Speaker 1: that Shod Khan is looking also to make a splash 127 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 1: here with his head coaching higher and completely reset this 128 00:07:10,960 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 1: organization going forward. Because I'm with you, Greg on the 129 00:07:14,120 --> 00:07:18,280 Speaker 1: scoreboard thing, but I still understand why this would be 130 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 1: seen to an outside as Wow, if you get the 131 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: right management in place at GM and you give me 132 00:07:24,560 --> 00:07:26,840 Speaker 1: this quarterback and you let me be the head coach, 133 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,680 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, we have a chance to get good 134 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: very quickly. Um. All right. In other news, Anthony Lynn, 135 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't make it. This one surprised me. I even 136 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: teed up Nick Shook on the Flagship Show after l 137 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:43,080 Speaker 1: A beat the Chiefs and immediately meaningless Week seventeen game 138 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: for Kansas City. No Patrick Mahomes, but still it was 139 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: four consecutive wins for the Chargers to end the season. 140 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 1: Justin Herbert ended his fantastic rookie season on a high note. 141 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: One of the great rookie seasons we've ever seen. Seeing 142 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback playing extremely well, a guy that you hope 143 00:07:59,880 --> 00:08:01,640 Speaker 1: is there for fifteen years, you end on a four 144 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: game winning streak. But Mark ultimately, um four years and 145 00:08:05,280 --> 00:08:08,520 Speaker 1: a lack of success and some high profile bungling of 146 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: some of the important elements of being a head coach 147 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: seemed to get Lynn in the end. Yeah. I think that, like, 148 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 1: if you look at what you look for in a 149 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: head coach like Anthony Lynn, and there's a reason I 150 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:22,160 Speaker 1: think that the media um respond so positively to him 151 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: is that he has traits of leadership, and he has 152 00:08:25,360 --> 00:08:28,440 Speaker 1: a history of players buying into him and and liking him. 153 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: But um, it was interesting the Dean Spano's basically said 154 00:08:31,520 --> 00:08:34,319 Speaker 1: that the Chargers have been in a quote essentially innovative 155 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: in many facets of their organization and they need to 156 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: carry that over to the entire operation. And I think 157 00:08:40,200 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: that pointed to some degree to coaching and game day 158 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,920 Speaker 1: management and the black mark on their record in close games, 159 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: it's been really, really rough. Um it kind of reminded 160 00:08:49,760 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit. Um, tell me if I'm too 161 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:55,360 Speaker 1: far afield here, but old Chicago Bulls fans will remember 162 00:08:55,400 --> 00:08:58,680 Speaker 1: when you had Michael Jordan's UM, you had Doug Collins 163 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:01,480 Speaker 1: as your coach, and they started to creep into contention 164 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: and you saw the pieces in place, and they made 165 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:07,000 Speaker 1: a sort of surprising coaching switch and went and got 166 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: Phil Jackson. They said, we have this star um that 167 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,080 Speaker 1: we need a coach who can match the star power. 168 00:09:12,200 --> 00:09:15,080 Speaker 1: And when you have Justin Herbert um you were, you 169 00:09:15,120 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: have an open invite to get some of the best 170 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:19,559 Speaker 1: coaching talent out there. Who wouldn't want to go there. 171 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:22,000 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a lot to like about the Chargers 172 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 1: in Los Angeles, so I think they're thinking, maybe this 173 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:28,040 Speaker 1: time around, we can maximize and get the best possible 174 00:09:28,080 --> 00:09:32,400 Speaker 1: coach out there. The biggest surprise to me, it's just 175 00:09:32,440 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: that Tom talasco has been their GM for so long, 176 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:37,840 Speaker 1: gets to hire his third coach. You never you almost 177 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: never see that, like a GM getting to hire three 178 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:43,360 Speaker 1: coaches and like unless like the you know, one of 179 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: them retired into like headed to the Hall of Fame 180 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:47,960 Speaker 1: because he was too old or something like, you don't 181 00:09:47,960 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: see it. Because Mike McCoy was, you know, a strikeout, 182 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,360 Speaker 1: and Lynn you know, had pretty good moments his first 183 00:09:54,360 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 1: couple of years. Uh, and then you know you're firing 184 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 1: him now and he gets another one and everyone points 185 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: to the good draft picks to LESCo has had and 186 00:10:01,040 --> 00:10:04,120 Speaker 1: that's fair. Um, but Lynn was, you know, over five 187 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:06,680 Speaker 1: hundred in his run. Intalasco has been there eight years 188 00:10:06,679 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: and is under five hundred. So yeah, I think that's 189 00:10:08,880 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 1: okay to point out. Um. I do like that the gms, 190 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: you know, in place making the decision. Herbert to me, 191 00:10:14,920 --> 00:10:17,760 Speaker 1: like blows up all this, like all the like I 192 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,840 Speaker 1: saw the excuses John always making for Drew Lock today 193 00:10:20,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: about and but then you're like, well look at justin Herbert. 194 00:10:23,600 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: You know, he kind of blows it for all these 195 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that have excuses. Because if you got it like 196 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:30,600 Speaker 1: Herbert does, like you just got it all right. So 197 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:33,960 Speaker 1: we'll see what happens next With the charges we talked 198 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:38,360 Speaker 1: about last night that the Jets had fired Adam Gaze. 199 00:10:38,440 --> 00:10:44,199 Speaker 1: Christopher Johnson, the team's um acting owner, gave a press 200 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:47,400 Speaker 1: conference today. He said, I don't much like the term CEO, 201 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:49,679 Speaker 1: but it does describe what we're looking for. We want 202 00:10:49,679 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 1: a head coach that coaches the entire team and his staff. 203 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 1: You don't need to be offensive. You have you don't 204 00:10:54,960 --> 00:10:57,000 Speaker 1: have to be defensive. This is a coach for the 205 00:10:57,160 --> 00:11:00,360 Speaker 1: entire team. This that's very important to us looking forward. 206 00:11:00,760 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: Obviously a clear indictment of Christopher Johnson's own decision making 207 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:09,000 Speaker 1: when he kind of heat laser focused in on Adam 208 00:11:09,040 --> 00:11:11,319 Speaker 1: Gates is the guy to get Sam Donald better and 209 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:13,880 Speaker 1: Gaye was an offensive guy and Greg Williams is the 210 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:16,720 Speaker 1: defensive head coach and it didn't work. So the Jets 211 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,200 Speaker 1: are now going to try a different tact in terms 212 00:11:19,240 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: of who's going to be their leader on the sideline. Uh, 213 00:11:21,800 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 1: if you are, and we talked about this yesterday as well. 214 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: If if you want to take any hopeful positives out 215 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,280 Speaker 1: of the search, which I expect to go on for 216 00:11:29,320 --> 00:11:31,959 Speaker 1: a while for the Jets, UH, is that it is 217 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,839 Speaker 1: all out there that Joe Douglas is going to be 218 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:36,240 Speaker 1: the guy that is going to pick the coach and 219 00:11:36,240 --> 00:11:39,520 Speaker 1: then present it to ownership and hopefully ownership listens to 220 00:11:39,559 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: the GM. I think that's how it's gonna play out, 221 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: and hopefully that will create um, you know, or lose 222 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:48,920 Speaker 1: a sense of dysfunction that's plagued this organization for a decade. 223 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,319 Speaker 1: I mean, I always thought that the word was that 224 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: Joe Douglas and Adam Gates got along pretty well. It 225 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: wasn't like there was a total lack of harmony there. 226 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,760 Speaker 1: But um, for a GM that you know has he's 227 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 1: held in high regard, certainly by many media people. Um, 228 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:06,959 Speaker 1: you know, you you'd think that he'd have a chance 229 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,440 Speaker 1: here to pick someone that he can work with, because 230 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: to the Telesco point, this is probably his last chance 231 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:14,120 Speaker 1: to pick a coach and he's got to get it 232 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: right and they're gonna have to nail the quarterback. And 233 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:20,280 Speaker 1: if those things happen, suddenly everyone looks pretty wise. I'm 234 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: noticing the trend when we talk about these guys, and 235 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm just a little bit of self scouting. That's what 236 00:12:24,559 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: you do, you know, the week after the regular season, 237 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 1: you do, you know, you have some meetings internal What 238 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: went right, what went what didn't go right? Um. We 239 00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:35,440 Speaker 1: I think we as a group don't like the guys 240 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,960 Speaker 1: who butter up the media, who get a little extra 241 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,160 Speaker 1: shine from the media, because we kind of know the game, 242 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: but we're not really on the inside. So we just 243 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: like we we see you people who are kissing up 244 00:12:46,800 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: to the media, and we're we're gonna call you out. 245 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:53,200 Speaker 1: We're the truth tellers. We were biased against them. I'm 246 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:55,680 Speaker 1: including Mark and myself and that at least because I 247 00:12:55,720 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: definitely have that trade and I can hear it from 248 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 1: Mark Tosh. It's snug starts to become obvious and overt, 249 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,000 Speaker 1: and it's a nice little party for everyone too. I 250 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:06,960 Speaker 1: do like the setup tho Dan too. You know, I 251 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:09,880 Speaker 1: killed the jets um the way that they did the 252 00:13:09,960 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: last couple. You know, when they hired Gates, I killed 253 00:13:12,360 --> 00:13:14,199 Speaker 1: it that day and it never made And when they 254 00:13:14,240 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: fired the last GM, I killed it that They never 255 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,400 Speaker 1: made any sense. You know, it just seemed doomed from 256 00:13:19,400 --> 00:13:21,679 Speaker 1: the start, and this this does not seem doom from 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:23,720 Speaker 1: the start. This seems to make sense. We'll see. I 258 00:13:23,760 --> 00:13:26,000 Speaker 1: was up at what's up, Bricky? Well, Greg, you just 259 00:13:26,040 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: said you're gonna call all these people out, but you 260 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:30,679 Speaker 1: didn't call anyone out, So why don't you just call 261 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:33,360 Speaker 1: them out? It was by the context clues I was 262 00:13:33,400 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 1: coming off of what Mark said. He was basically saying, 263 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 1: Joe Joe D's got friends in the media. I did 264 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,960 Speaker 1: think anyone listening that that's what he was talking about. Okay, 265 00:13:43,280 --> 00:13:45,319 Speaker 1: I just want to. You said you're gonna call him out, 266 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: so let's do it then, right. I guess Ricky is saying, basically, 267 00:13:48,920 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: it's a half measure. You go out of your way 268 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,840 Speaker 1: to show that you are someone that's plugged in and 269 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: gets it everything I was assuming, I'm assuming. Listen. We 270 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,840 Speaker 1: pointed out every show Who's Who's people that gets up 271 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: to the media, throw let's throw it Talasco's name into 272 00:14:03,280 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: the mix too. We just talked about it basically, you 273 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,760 Speaker 1: know the ones it works. That's the thing I've learned 274 00:14:08,760 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 1: more than than anything I feel like in the last 275 00:14:11,200 --> 00:14:14,400 Speaker 1: fifteen years, is it really does work to insulate yourself 276 00:14:14,440 --> 00:14:16,440 Speaker 1: with the media. It makes a difference. There's a reason 277 00:14:16,480 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: these guys do this. I was I woke up um 278 00:14:19,560 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: in the middle of the night and I was going 279 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,760 Speaker 1: through you know, I was reading all the postmortems on 280 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,320 Speaker 1: Gaze and and who the Jets might go after. And 281 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:29,720 Speaker 1: this applies not just to the Jets but all these 282 00:14:29,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 1: teams looking for coaches. This is a tricky year to 283 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 1: be on the hunt for a head coach because, like 284 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: Straeger said last week, there's no like obvious slam dunk guy. 285 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:41,680 Speaker 1: So uh, no matter who these teams come down with 286 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:43,840 Speaker 1: I feel like you're gonna have to on some level 287 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: as a fan, talk yourself into it and trust what 288 00:14:47,120 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 1: what your team is saying about the higher and why 289 00:14:49,080 --> 00:14:52,640 Speaker 1: they think it's the right move, because I don't see anything. Um, 290 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: you know, Arthur Smith is an example. Every coach, every 291 00:14:55,960 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 1: team that's looking for a head coach is requested to 292 00:14:58,040 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: speak with Arthur Smith. So it's like, okay, so Arthur 293 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Smith must be like a crazy and demand guy that 294 00:15:03,280 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: your your organization be galvanized by. But nobody really thinks 295 00:15:06,440 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: that about Arthur Smith. Maybe he is going to be great, 296 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: We don't know, but he's uh, you know, he's an example, 297 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 1: right FedEx money. Maybe they just like want some they 298 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:18,640 Speaker 1: want to be connected to the FedEx zion? Is that 299 00:15:18,680 --> 00:15:22,880 Speaker 1: the word? Maybe I don't know, the zeitgeist like s 300 00:15:22,920 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: C I O n oh that one. Yes? All right, okay, 301 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,240 Speaker 1: so there you go. The Jets, all right, the Lions, 302 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 1: we know about nothing new on that. For the Texans, 303 00:15:37,720 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 1: UM and the Falcons. Those are the other three job openings. 304 00:15:43,040 --> 00:15:47,840 Speaker 1: So you have six head coaching vacancies right now. Now 305 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 1: it's been through the rest of the news. So Zach Taylor. 306 00:15:53,720 --> 00:15:57,040 Speaker 1: There was a report floated by Mike Florio of PFT 307 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: yesterday that he might not be safe with Cincinnat Addie. Uh. Well, 308 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:04,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals went and doused that report with cold water 309 00:16:04,880 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: by coming out on Monday and saying, yes, Zach Tayler 310 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:09,560 Speaker 1: is our guy, and he's coming back for a third 311 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 1: year on the sidelines. He has not had any success 312 00:16:12,960 --> 00:16:17,160 Speaker 1: when loss wise, Mark, But um, you know, at the 313 00:16:17,200 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: same time, this is not still not a great roster 314 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: and the Joe Burrow injury just killed any momentum they 315 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:26,520 Speaker 1: could have built down the back stretch of the season. Yeah. 316 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: I mean, if you I think it'd be going into 317 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,600 Speaker 1: the year, we talked about like who is Zach Taylor. 318 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: We've we've had that conversation multiple times. Um. I'd come 319 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: away saying, you can feel real encouraged about the Titans 320 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 1: win with Joe Burrow. You can feel good about beating 321 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers with Brandon Allen. Um, they finished bottom five 322 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: and offense yards per play scoring. Um, but you're in 323 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: an organization. Mike Brown came out today and said he's 324 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: very bullish on Zach Taylor. I found that to be 325 00:16:53,400 --> 00:16:56,280 Speaker 1: the wording of an aged man. But um, that's a 326 00:16:56,320 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 1: good thing if you the definition is positive if you're 327 00:16:58,880 --> 00:17:02,080 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, and UM, I get it. Why why dump him? 328 00:17:02,120 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: Because it's he hasn't really had a chance yet with 329 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: a full year with Burrow, and I did see some 330 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: things and it's not like you know Burrow was under 331 00:17:11,200 --> 00:17:15,160 Speaker 1: coached by them. Um, the issue is talent organization. Here's 332 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:18,000 Speaker 1: my question. Would Marvin Lewis have done worse than Zach 333 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: Taylor better? I mean, I I just I'm waiting to 334 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:22,800 Speaker 1: find out who this coach is. But I think it 335 00:17:22,800 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 1: would have been premature to jomb ship and then resell 336 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:29,800 Speaker 1: someone else on the Solomon Wilcox once told me Marvin Lewis, 337 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: for all his wards, that man raised the Titanic. He 338 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:37,160 Speaker 1: turned the Cincinnati Bengals into a a f C playoff 339 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 1: contender year after year. Maybe. And I don't think he's 340 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:43,880 Speaker 1: another example because I think Peter mentioned his name. Potentially, 341 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 1: he's had some interviews, He's had some interviews that would 342 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:49,720 Speaker 1: not be higher that would excite anyone. But I think 343 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: he gets lost in the mix because Lewis kind of 344 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: became almost like a figure of comedy, uh for Twitter 345 00:17:56,240 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 1: middle school, because he lasted for sixteen years of that 346 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: winning playoff games. But Marvin Lewis is an idiot. He 347 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:05,000 Speaker 1: accomplished much more, uh than than Zach Taylor could ever 348 00:18:05,080 --> 00:18:08,080 Speaker 1: dream of through two seasons of his coaching career, right 349 00:18:08,359 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: because Louis, if nothing else, is going to bring a 350 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: good staff. And that's the question that Taylor has. No 351 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 1: one wanted to work firm at first. I mean, he 352 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 1: went through like nine defensive coordinators before he found one 353 00:18:17,880 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: that said, yes, I think he might change his defensive 354 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 1: coordinator lu uh lu and a rumo. We don't know 355 00:18:24,560 --> 00:18:28,440 Speaker 1: that yet. So he's been in. Lou Alberto not a guy. 356 00:18:28,480 --> 00:18:31,080 Speaker 1: That's not a guy that's been mentioned on this show 357 00:18:31,119 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: a lot. It would have been nice to see Burrow 358 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 1: through the end of the season. It was hard to really. 359 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,719 Speaker 1: I think much of Borrow's injury and a strange twist 360 00:18:38,720 --> 00:18:41,440 Speaker 1: of fate saves Zach Taylor's job. That's also something to 361 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:44,960 Speaker 1: maybe consistency for Joe Burrow. Let's not make him the 362 00:18:45,040 --> 00:18:48,320 Speaker 1: latest rookie quarterback with you know, three coaches and four 363 00:18:48,400 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 1: years and multiple schemes. Maybe it's just like, let's keep 364 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: things as they are. They gotta do something though, if 365 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: he just shows back up and not like blue Polo 366 00:18:57,640 --> 00:18:59,879 Speaker 1: you know all the time, Zach Taylor and they have 367 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:02,600 Speaker 1: another like four and eleven season. If like, if we 368 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: were back in the old blog days and the odds 369 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,240 Speaker 1: we all we all wrote for blogs around the NFL 370 00:19:07,359 --> 00:19:09,720 Speaker 1: is a blog remember that it was called a round 371 00:19:09,760 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: the league? That was good. Uh, like a really mean 372 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: spirited blog post would be like the most forgettable NFL 373 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: coaches who like reached their third season, and and Zach 374 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: Taylor right now would be on you know, probably be 375 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,280 Speaker 1: on that list if you have to. He'd be the 376 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:27,639 Speaker 1: reason you put the article right, he would be the inspiration. 377 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: I don't know where he would fall. You'd have to 378 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,600 Speaker 1: do some research, but so he's on the mountain rushmore 379 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: of terrible third year coaches. That's terrible. I said most forgettable. 380 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: There's because a lot of times terrible means memorable. So 381 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 1: these could be some, you know, multiple five and elevens 382 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,200 Speaker 1: that you just forgot. Every Blase a leader of men, 383 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 1: a largely forgettable leader of men that you don't remember 384 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: lead you or anyone else, or that you don't remember 385 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 1: covering you don't you're like, oh yeah, I forgot that guy. 386 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,000 Speaker 1: You know. It was like someone brought up how many 387 00:19:57,000 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: assistant coaches Brad Childress uh like has turned in Chile coaches, 388 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 1: and I was like, well, I forgot Brad Childrens. He 389 00:20:03,440 --> 00:20:05,680 Speaker 1: had like a six year run with four playoff spots. 390 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: But it just sort of like totally forgot about it. 391 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 1: Um all right, in other news that you know, one thing, 392 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:19,159 Speaker 1: So six coach openings, which is pretty much on average, 393 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,280 Speaker 1: but general manager openings there are seven of them right now. 394 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:26,600 Speaker 1: That's that's higher than usual. And the most high profile 395 00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: one opened up on Monday when John Elway uh and 396 00:20:33,000 --> 00:20:35,560 Speaker 1: the Broncos announced that he would be stepping away from 397 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: the role of GM after ten years. Um, and we'll 398 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:43,199 Speaker 1: be hiring a GM that will answer to John Elway 399 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:47,040 Speaker 1: and also Vic Fono, who's going to keep his job. 400 00:20:47,400 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 1: So the Broncos are gonna hire a GM to quote 401 00:20:50,720 --> 00:20:55,400 Speaker 1: make all football decisions, working in partnership with Vic, Elways 402 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:00,159 Speaker 1: said Monday. So that's big. Elway of course was the 403 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: architect of the Super Bowl fifty champion, but it has 404 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:06,560 Speaker 1: been tough sledding in the years since, so he gets 405 00:21:06,720 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: I guess what amounts to a promotion to president of 406 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,560 Speaker 1: football operations, but he no longer is the chief architect 407 00:21:13,600 --> 00:21:17,600 Speaker 1: of the team. Greg Um, This is probably, I don't 408 00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 1: want to say, an overdue development, because John Elway deserved 409 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: plenty of rope after what the team you put together 410 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 1: with Peyton, Manning and von Miller. But it might have 411 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: been time to shake things up this one, John, Yeah, 412 00:21:31,000 --> 00:21:34,720 Speaker 1: I think so. It strikes me as parcels Ian and 413 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: Elway does deserve credit because they were great for four years. 414 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:39,720 Speaker 1: You know, Manning gets the most credit, by the way, 415 00:21:39,760 --> 00:21:41,960 Speaker 1: but I mean, they were great for four straight years 416 00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: and they want it on almost the most surprising year 417 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,720 Speaker 1: that they had in It reminds me of when Bill 418 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: Parcels kind of moved to like no longer being the 419 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:54,480 Speaker 1: coach or GM exactly, but then just tried to be 420 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 1: like the football's are in Miami. That's sort of like 421 00:21:57,880 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: the last move of a football ski in Scone, you 422 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,560 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Like he's always trying to insulate himself, 423 00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 1: like he says he has other things he wants to 424 00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:12,399 Speaker 1: do while still staying so he doesn't want to be 425 00:22:12,440 --> 00:22:14,960 Speaker 1: as day to day. It makes sense. Also, ownership is 426 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:17,680 Speaker 1: like changing and weird there, so it's almost like planting 427 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 1: a flag of like whatever happens here, I'm not going 428 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: to be that easy to take out like right away, 429 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,280 Speaker 1: you know. But it's a weird organization right now because 430 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: you're making them take Vic Fundio too. It's not a 431 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,280 Speaker 1: normal GM job there. I mean, they're also very few 432 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: scenarios where your general manager is an icon in your town. Um, 433 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: where people go to games still wearing John Elway jerseys. 434 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 1: And I had a friend from Denver that rome and said, wait, 435 00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 1: did um smell Away get fired because he calls him classics? 436 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,320 Speaker 1: I said, listen, he um he Essentially this is great 437 00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: for him. He got promote sixty years old. He promoted himself. 438 00:22:57,560 --> 00:23:00,720 Speaker 1: We've got plenty of people like this, um inside NFL 439 00:23:00,800 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 1: network and in the higher floors of our building. Well, 440 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: these are people I don't even know their names, but 441 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:10,159 Speaker 1: you get the email every once a month this person 442 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,320 Speaker 1: and these people have been promoted. This this you know, 443 00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,640 Speaker 1: there's names have been promoted eight times in the last 444 00:23:14,640 --> 00:23:17,640 Speaker 1: four years. They move high up into the upper echelance 445 00:23:17,680 --> 00:23:20,400 Speaker 1: of the company where there is no accountability. You have 446 00:23:20,440 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: no idea what they are doing. John always said a 447 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,440 Speaker 1: couple of times during this presser, like I'm gonna stay 448 00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: attached where I want to and stay engaged where I 449 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,600 Speaker 1: want to. I still feel competitive, but basically it's a 450 00:23:31,680 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: job that he will not be held accountable for it. 451 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:35,800 Speaker 1: It will make a lot of money for it, and 452 00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 1: I would imagine that's a nice thing to do when 453 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: you're sixty years old. So are you. I'm getting mixed 454 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: signals from you, Mark. Are we protecting the sacred cows? 455 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,720 Speaker 1: Or are we slaughtering them? Like? Where are we standing? 456 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:50,000 Speaker 1: Where we stand on all this? I'm not really out 457 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 1: to get John Ellie. I mean, he won them a 458 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:55,399 Speaker 1: super Bowl. He won the multiple Super Bowls as a player. 459 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 1: He got them one as a GM. He'd been there 460 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,600 Speaker 1: for ten years, they won like a hundred games a quarterback. 461 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,240 Speaker 1: Thing got real rough at the end, and I think 462 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,640 Speaker 1: he's sort of saying, seacrest out. It's not it's it's 463 00:24:06,640 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: a tricky job. Of all these GM jobs open, I 464 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: think it might be the worst, just because of the 465 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:16,639 Speaker 1: weird the weird dynamics and the ownership is messy. Just 466 00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: you can google it. There's lawsuits, there's inheritance, there's you know, 467 00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,440 Speaker 1: there's a bunch of there's a lot of different things. 468 00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: Going on there. So it's just confusing. What if it's 469 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:30,639 Speaker 1: a sound, what is it not? Scion? Let me, um, 470 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: here's what it is. Say unless me, you know a word, 471 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: I shouldn't say, that's what it is. Unless you know, 472 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,040 Speaker 1: never use like a vocab word that you don't know 473 00:24:40,119 --> 00:24:42,680 Speaker 1: what the pronunciation is. That's that may be the most 474 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,399 Speaker 1: trench and lesson we learned from this entire episode. I mean, 475 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:48,120 Speaker 1: anyone could they could apply that to Here is the pronunciation, 476 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:52,959 Speaker 1: according to a unchecked um site or page on YouTube. 477 00:24:52,960 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: Here we go science science science. That sounds nice, sir? Okay, right, 478 00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: she like Siano like she gone, she Hey, New GM. 479 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,159 Speaker 1: By the way, you gotta stick with this coach I 480 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: hired uh and shermer. Oh, and I really believe in 481 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: Drew lock and and I'm your boss and I'm the 482 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:29,120 Speaker 1: hero and ownerships kind of change in here you go. Yeah, 483 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:32,359 Speaker 1: if this reminds me of the Jets set up, like 484 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,399 Speaker 1: after they fired the GM, like, it's just it's it's 485 00:25:35,440 --> 00:25:38,399 Speaker 1: it's like, if things go poorly, it's your fault, New GM. 486 00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: If things go well, it was me that did it. 487 00:25:41,359 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: And also Facio is your boy until he's not. And 488 00:25:46,280 --> 00:25:48,440 Speaker 1: if you fire him. That's on you too, because you 489 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: should have thought better than to keep him on. You 490 00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: should have lobbied with me, and I would have sided 491 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,680 Speaker 1: with you. It's a it's a viper pit up there 492 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: in Denver. He you don't say that about my job. 493 00:25:59,760 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 1: In other news of the Vikings, they're gonna have a 494 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinator because Gary Kubiak, he's expected to retire. 495 00:26:09,400 --> 00:26:13,840 Speaker 1: About that, Uh we lad we lad with the show. 496 00:26:13,920 --> 00:26:16,879 Speaker 1: We led the show talking about the defensive coordinator of 497 00:26:16,920 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: the Eagles stepping away from the league. Kubiak now also 498 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: expected to step away. Obviously, Gary has had some health 499 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: issues in the past, and he he stepped into a 500 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,960 Speaker 1: more prominent role this year. But I guess it's gonna 501 00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,399 Speaker 1: be one and done with Minnesota as the OC. I 502 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: wonder if these two stories are connected. I saw someone 503 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:39,159 Speaker 1: wonder about it, whether Kubiak could be heading back to 504 00:26:39,920 --> 00:26:42,879 Speaker 1: to Denver, you know, in the front office or something. 505 00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,959 Speaker 1: We've done this show long enough. We've done Kubiak retirements before, 506 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:49,720 Speaker 1: so we probably we should just Ricky, go find that 507 00:26:49,760 --> 00:26:53,080 Speaker 1: and replay what we said. Sometimes you can't keep sometime 508 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,760 Speaker 1: in the next five last five years. Just go check 509 00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: it out. Kubiak took a stroke in the middle of 510 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: the damn game, like ten years of go and he's 511 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:05,040 Speaker 1: still doing it, like you can't keep Gary got the sideline. No, 512 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: he was sort of like the poster boy for these 513 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: coaches are working two hours, you know, and it's and 514 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:13,320 Speaker 1: it wasn't untrue. I mean, there are whispers that Clint 515 00:27:13,359 --> 00:27:17,840 Speaker 1: Kubiak could become Mike Zimmer's next offensive coordinator, the son 516 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,840 Speaker 1: of Gary Kubiak. He's hiring his six play caller in 517 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 1: six years, by the way, I mean he took Kubiak 518 00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: came there and Stefanski was there last year. The offense 519 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,320 Speaker 1: wasn't their problem. That was the best offense I think 520 00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: they've probably had since Mike Zimmer has been there. There 521 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: is keat also that Anthony Lynn could be the offensive 522 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,639 Speaker 1: coordinator here in Minnesota. Keep an eye on that. Anthony 523 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,879 Speaker 1: Lynn will be hired very quickly for to be added 524 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,880 Speaker 1: to someone's staff and that will be a major repeated 525 00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:50,520 Speaker 1: notebook item come August about what he's bringing to the 526 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 1: coaching staff and the locker room. You know, Clint Kubiak, 527 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,800 Speaker 1: that that's a name and it goes back. I don't 528 00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,440 Speaker 1: want to be labor at this point, but like Arthur 529 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: Smith even we went with Artie Smith or or you know, 530 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:09,560 Speaker 1: special Delivery Smith like, still not a lot of buzz. 531 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:15,080 Speaker 1: But if it was Clint Kubiak running that offense in Tennessee, 532 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,200 Speaker 1: I think he's he's getting Robert Sala type attention right now, 533 00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 1: You're not. It's all about the name. Well, he's got 534 00:28:20,800 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 1: he's got the nice I hope he inherited the nice 535 00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: hair from his his dad too. Do you like the 536 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:29,399 Speaker 1: double K though? He goes Clint with a K? You know, 537 00:28:29,520 --> 00:28:32,600 Speaker 1: two k's, you're only one away from three. It's right, 538 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: that's tricky, that's problematic territory and society. I don't like that, 539 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: But you know, at the same time, who am I 540 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 1: to judge? Greg? You have three gs? Some people might 541 00:28:42,880 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: say that that's mark you. You have it with the CEA. 542 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 1: You you guys are all outside the box. It could 543 00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,200 Speaker 1: be too could be too much. Do you feel do 544 00:28:49,280 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: you ever feel that life would be different if you 545 00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:55,479 Speaker 1: had a name spelled the proper way, the correct way? 546 00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,360 Speaker 1: You know which one of us are you speaking to? 547 00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I I like I don't like the name 548 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: Greg at all, but I like it better with the 549 00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: next Gee, Lisa gave me the whole six G bit. 550 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:11,040 Speaker 1: You know, you know it's good. I would never want 551 00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: to switch to become Mark with a K at this 552 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:15,760 Speaker 1: point we've gotten this far field. That would be an 553 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:20,720 Speaker 1: absurd moved back to the media, back to the like. 554 00:29:20,760 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: You can check with Social Security to see how popular 555 00:29:23,200 --> 00:29:25,479 Speaker 1: names are over the years, and I have checked as 556 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: no one names their kid Greg anymore, like no one, 557 00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,880 Speaker 1: It's not even in the top thousand. It's over. It's over. 558 00:29:31,920 --> 00:29:35,680 Speaker 1: It's like Tiffany is some hot in the eighties. And 559 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: then that was it. It was game over. Uh and 560 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:45,640 Speaker 1: other news. So Kubiak expected to retire. Now Philadelphia Doug Peterson. 561 00:29:45,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: Some people wondered about Doug was he going to survive? 562 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:51,520 Speaker 1: And then there was the fiasco uh yesterday last night 563 00:29:51,520 --> 00:29:55,720 Speaker 1: on Sunday Night Football, where the Eagles brought in Nate 564 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: Sudfeld how to get a look at Nate Sudfeld, which 565 00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:02,640 Speaker 1: essentially eliminated, for all intents and purposes, the Giants from 566 00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:05,440 Speaker 1: having a chance to win that division. Boo, who you want? 567 00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 1: Six and ten? But let's get back back on track here. 568 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:13,480 Speaker 1: Peterson and Howie Roseman did a press conference together, so 569 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Doug's not going anywhere, and um, the general manager, Howie Roseman, 570 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,160 Speaker 1: spoke on the topic of Carson Wentz, who of course 571 00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,960 Speaker 1: lost his starting job to Jalen Hurts, And there's been 572 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: a lot of media speculation about a fallout and a 573 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 1: fractured relationship between Doug Peterson the head coach is going 574 00:30:32,200 --> 00:30:34,360 Speaker 1: to stay at the head coach and Carson Wentz and 575 00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: the possibility of a trade. Here's what Howie Roseman said 576 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 1: in The Spin Machine on Monday. Um, when you have 577 00:30:41,840 --> 00:30:44,280 Speaker 1: players like that, they're like fingers on your hands. Um, 578 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 1: you know, you can't even imagine that they're not part 579 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: of you, that they're not here, And um, you know 580 00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:55,000 Speaker 1: that's that's how I feel about Carson. That's like the 581 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:58,400 Speaker 1: most non answer ever, by the way, it's it's a 582 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,960 Speaker 1: bunch of descriptive language, but then when you really drill 583 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 1: down on it, it means absolutely nothing at all. I mean, 584 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:08,880 Speaker 1: I throw a few of those responses around on this show. 585 00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 1: So you know, no errors towards howing MARKU is good 586 00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: at that if he knows how to you know, a dodge. Yeah, 587 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: he never They never said, they never promised not to. 588 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,000 Speaker 1: They said all the reasons they loved Carson Wentz in 589 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:21,200 Speaker 1: the first place, like they still believe in that the 590 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: Wenz Peterson things seems more germane. The it was weird. 591 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 1: It was weird press commerce because everyone's remote, and they 592 00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,040 Speaker 1: asked all the questions to Howie because they never get 593 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,800 Speaker 1: Howie Roseman, like Doug Peterson, just like sat there and 594 00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: they know the score that whence these reports that are 595 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: come out, they gotta come from somewhere. And it really 596 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 1: seems like it's Wentz his camp um that's putting it 597 00:31:44,480 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: out there and trying to get a divorce, and and 598 00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:48,840 Speaker 1: that they do have a problem with the coach, and 599 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:50,880 Speaker 1: if the coach is staying and I you know, put 600 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: two and two together there. Well, and Wentz refused to 601 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 1: speak to the media today, So he doesn't sound like 602 00:31:57,880 --> 00:32:00,320 Speaker 1: a happy camper to me necessarily. I mean, I think 603 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: it's like the kind of Howie Roseman saying the kind 604 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,120 Speaker 1: of thing that you say when you might still be 605 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:08,400 Speaker 1: stuck in this relationship at training camp and you don't 606 00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 1: want to you know, suggests anything other than he's a 607 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 1: finger on my hand and I would never cut it off. Well, 608 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: I don't buy a word of it. If the right 609 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: situation comes to allow them to cleanse themselves of this 610 00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:22,360 Speaker 1: pretty terrible offseason storyline that where I'd like him to 611 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,440 Speaker 1: cleanse it so that we can be rid of it. 612 00:32:24,520 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: But um, it doesn't sound like that's the plan right now. Yeah, 613 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,720 Speaker 1: if Carson Wentston had signed that huge contract extension, this 614 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: is probably you know, a non starter. It's gonna be 615 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,200 Speaker 1: He'll be moved and and fresh start for both sides, 616 00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: and the Eagles recoup a draft pick and either you know, 617 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:45,080 Speaker 1: get behind Nate Sudfeld as the backup quarterback of the future, 618 00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: or they invest in another quarterback in the room to 619 00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: join Dalen Hurts. Who knows, but because of that contract 620 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,960 Speaker 1: they might be stuck together. I just found it funny 621 00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: that his choice of words like as if you know, 622 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: just because you can't imagine him not being there, that 623 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: doesn't mean anything. I mean that you're gonna get rid 624 00:33:01,360 --> 00:33:04,040 Speaker 1: of them if you if you can, but maybe they 625 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: don't know if they can. So when it's the end 626 00:33:05,800 --> 00:33:08,960 Speaker 1: resulted it like, you know, one of the more um white, 627 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,200 Speaker 1: knuckle hard scrabbled group of beat writers in America are 628 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:14,560 Speaker 1: supposed to go away from that press conference thinking no 629 00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: more questions. They're all in on Oh my gosh, I 630 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: watched a little bit of it looking for that, and man, 631 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,800 Speaker 1: their questions are so brutal. They're just like, like the 632 00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: question that led to that was like, how do you 633 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: explain that Carson Wentz had the biggest regression of any 634 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: quarterback in the history of sports and embarrassed our city? 635 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,560 Speaker 1: Like that was like the question, It's like how He's 636 00:33:34,600 --> 00:33:37,840 Speaker 1: just like how Anna? How He's answer is basically, alternative 637 00:33:37,920 --> 00:33:42,000 Speaker 1: is to do The alternative is to do what m 638 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 1: Naggy and Ryan pasted last year and just lie about 639 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,640 Speaker 1: Mitchell Trobinsky, you know, or whatever they were whatever they 640 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:52,280 Speaker 1: were doing. How Doug, how did you feel having to 641 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: get up and put on a shirt and comb your 642 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:57,640 Speaker 1: hair for that press conference and then nobody wants to 643 00:33:57,640 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 1: ask you a question? How did you feel about that? Off? Angelo? 644 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:06,040 Speaker 1: I totally get it. What do you think about Carson 645 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:08,719 Speaker 1: Wentz and him, you know, leaking all the stuff to 646 00:34:08,760 --> 00:34:12,800 Speaker 1: the media causing an issue with your organization? St Angelo? 647 00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,879 Speaker 1: What about the Giants and their fans thinking that you're 648 00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:24,040 Speaker 1: the anti Christ for pulling Jalen Hurts in the gamest Angelo, Okay, 649 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,479 Speaker 1: we asked the hard hitting questions. I mean, yes, yes, 650 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:32,600 Speaker 1: all right to Dan Hansen's shout. All right, let's let's know, hey, Paul, 651 00:34:33,160 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 1: let's now uh look too real quick before we sign off. 652 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: Here a couple of wild card super excuse me, super 653 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: wild card weekend games, uh, and some injury issues connected 654 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: to teams. Jared go we talked about it on Sunday. 655 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,080 Speaker 1: He was throwing the football around over the weekend and 656 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,839 Speaker 1: you know, maybe trending towards returning for the Saturday game 657 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,640 Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. Well rap Sheet reported on Monday that 658 00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:05,680 Speaker 1: it will be quote challenging for Jared Goff to return 659 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:11,520 Speaker 1: in time for the Seahawks game. Uh maybe Greg, maybe, Uh, 660 00:35:11,640 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: Sean McVeigh doesn't need Sean need his quarterback to rush 661 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:18,879 Speaker 1: back after John Wolford played okay this week. I don't 662 00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:23,439 Speaker 1: know that's I started asking around, just curious. I don't 663 00:35:23,440 --> 00:35:25,680 Speaker 1: think anyone would know that. They would never reveal that, 664 00:35:25,719 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: but I think that's a theory going around that Sean 665 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:32,920 Speaker 1: McVeigh would not mind seeing what John Wolford could do 666 00:35:33,120 --> 00:35:35,360 Speaker 1: with the start in Seattle because he just saw what 667 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,399 Speaker 1: Goff did in Seattle and it was not great. I mean, 668 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,520 Speaker 1: the situation, which would be crazy. It would be so crazy. 669 00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:45,000 Speaker 1: But it also isn't if you look at the way 670 00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:47,719 Speaker 1: mcveigh's sorry for interrupting this. If you look, if you 671 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,000 Speaker 1: look at the way McVeigh called plays like, you could 672 00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,960 Speaker 1: see his lack of confidence in go. I mean, if 673 00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:55,080 Speaker 1: that happened and it played out, and you know, I 674 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 1: read this report that you know they're heading to the 675 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:01,560 Speaker 1: Pacific Northwest and it might be forty seven degrees with 676 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,359 Speaker 1: a chance of rain, and you don't want to put 677 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:07,120 Speaker 1: Golf in that situation. Um okay, I guess you want 678 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:09,520 Speaker 1: to put a guy who would be playing his second 679 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,279 Speaker 1: NFL game ever in that situation. But um, if it 680 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:14,560 Speaker 1: plays out that way, I'm sorry, but it's sort of 681 00:36:14,560 --> 00:36:17,960 Speaker 1: the West Coast version of some of the Carson Wentz dynamics. 682 00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:20,319 Speaker 1: I mean, you've just given Golf a ton of money. 683 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: Are you gonna go into the off season with this 684 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,160 Speaker 1: being the storyline that is attached to your team? I 685 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: hope this isn't. There isn't like a is John Wolford 686 00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 1: better than Jard Goff conversation happening right now because that's absurd. 687 00:36:33,440 --> 00:36:36,120 Speaker 1: L A The l A Times ran a column today 688 00:36:36,200 --> 00:36:38,120 Speaker 1: and now I think it was kind of ridiculous saying 689 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,040 Speaker 1: like they had to start Walford. You know this, this 690 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: is this is what happens in in fandom and in 691 00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:49,799 Speaker 1: journalism to people get annoyed with certain players, and quarterbacks 692 00:36:49,800 --> 00:36:52,720 Speaker 1: obviously will bear the brunt of this because they're so 693 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: so highly visible and so important to the team. And 694 00:36:55,400 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: when a quarterback that has a track record of not 695 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:01,759 Speaker 1: just success but like all pro level play, which there 696 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 1: was a period where Jared Goff did that a couple 697 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,759 Speaker 1: of years ago, that is all out the window now 698 00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,239 Speaker 1: and now he's not even as good as the Arizona 699 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 1: hot shot. Uh signal caller from the A f Uh 700 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,600 Speaker 1: what about the Brian Flores method? This would make more 701 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 1: sense to me. If Jared Goff can play, start Jared Goff, 702 00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: and if he can't play the guitar, after you know, 703 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,680 Speaker 1: a quarter or two on Sunday or Saturday, then you 704 00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:28,240 Speaker 1: bring in your little hero, Johnny Walford. You could play both, guys. 705 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:30,520 Speaker 1: This isn't baseball, you know, it's you could go back 706 00:37:30,520 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 1: and forth if you wanted to, maybe flip it. Start 707 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: Walford because you know he because you know he Yeah, 708 00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:38,640 Speaker 1: he's the best quarterback in town. And if it doesn't 709 00:37:38,680 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: work out, look at Jim Everett bringing Jim Everett have 710 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 1: ever played the first quarter, Mark Boulger the second, bringing 711 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: Goff for the third, and close it out with Johnny 712 00:37:46,840 --> 00:37:49,560 Speaker 1: Wolford in that r p O game. Remember when backups 713 00:37:49,560 --> 00:37:51,759 Speaker 1: would go on, you know, playoff run and share. It's 714 00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: happened recently too, and like remember when it's like nothing 715 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,560 Speaker 1: like a good John Jeff has Stetler or Frank Reich 716 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:01,200 Speaker 1: a little playoff run or somethingnight someone named the Bill 717 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:05,480 Speaker 1: there you go. Yeah, what about the uh who was 718 00:38:05,560 --> 00:38:09,480 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos coach this year that was like, uh, 719 00:38:09,600 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: I could play quarterback on Sunday, Get him in the game, 720 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:14,279 Speaker 1: give him a couple of snats. See if he can 721 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:19,959 Speaker 1: play the game. He deserves it. Finally, um Mark. Bad 722 00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:23,440 Speaker 1: news on the defensive line of the Cleveland Browns. Olivier 723 00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:26,960 Speaker 1: Vernon has been placed on injured reserve. He tours Achilles 724 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 1: tendon Um on Sunday. He had nine sacks, second on 725 00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: the team to Miles Garrett, and it is not good. 726 00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,040 Speaker 1: Not good for Vernon, who's pending free agent, and not 727 00:38:40,120 --> 00:38:42,440 Speaker 1: good for the Browns, whose defense isn't too hot to 728 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,360 Speaker 1: begin with, and now you takeaway one of their top 729 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:48,600 Speaker 1: playmakers on defense. Yeah, that really fin at that position. 730 00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: You know, it sounds like Adrian Claiborne is the guy 731 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,360 Speaker 1: that would step in. And Claiborne isn't a guy that 732 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: can shift Um from right to left because of the 733 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: birth defect that he deals with and um, So, I 734 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:02,279 Speaker 1: mean that kind of just tells you that Pittsburgh can 735 00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:06,680 Speaker 1: spend the week scheming um for Miles Garrett on one side, 736 00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: stacked the protection there, and you know, here's the worst 737 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: formula for Cleveland. I mean, you can't get to big 738 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: ben Um, but the Steelers can get to Baker Mayfield. 739 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: And there's a very easy mental pathway to imagine that 740 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 1: being the case. This is a big loss. He was playing. No, 741 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,799 Speaker 1: I don't think he had a great season last year, 742 00:39:23,000 --> 00:39:26,439 Speaker 1: but Vernon Um was was playing really well, really well 743 00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,759 Speaker 1: for them this year. And I'd go point to that 744 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,160 Speaker 1: Eagles game where he caused absolute total havoc and one 745 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,279 Speaker 1: of you know, a f C defensive Player of the Week. 746 00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: So it's a huge loss at the worst time. Yeah, 747 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: he was playing great. They need Ward back, they need 748 00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:42,520 Speaker 1: Denville Award back. Um, all right, and you're gonna get 749 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,799 Speaker 1: a full breakdown of Steelers, Browns, Rap, Seahawks and all 750 00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:51,480 Speaker 1: the Super wild Card games on Thursday when we uh, 751 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,759 Speaker 1: you know, dig in on every game that we played 752 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: this weekend. That's gonna be a lot of fun. We 753 00:39:56,680 --> 00:40:01,240 Speaker 1: also have a totally different episode uh on NFL Network 754 00:40:01,560 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: that is airing this weekend that is also you know, 755 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: look ahead to wild Card Super wild Card weekend. Um, 756 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,919 Speaker 1: so check that out on NFL Network. It airs right 757 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 1: went like if you have a three year old, um, 758 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: like two hours before he wakes up. That's that's the 759 00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:25,040 Speaker 1: first I think. We're in primetime at a normal time 760 00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,839 Speaker 1: on Friday. And then it's the word of a better 761 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:35,719 Speaker 1: We're on Friday, We're on Friday night. I don't know 762 00:40:35,760 --> 00:40:42,840 Speaker 1: the answer. Come on, producer, yea Friday, Friday afternoon. Correct. Okay, 763 00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 1: that's good. That's what it's all about. So put the 764 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:53,239 Speaker 1: three year old in the backyard, yeah and sit down 765 00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: and watch the show. Put a hoodie on it. It's 766 00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:03,120 Speaker 1: getting cold out there. It all right, that's it. Um, Yeah, 767 00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: so we have the that show coming up. Oh wait, 768 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:11,080 Speaker 1: you're just talking about Olivia, right, Olivia because Olivia Wilde 769 00:41:11,160 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: is now with Harry Styles. I just wanted to bring 770 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,640 Speaker 1: that false. Yeah, that's been a big news item today, 771 00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: a little bit about that. I just wanted to let 772 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,120 Speaker 1: you know, what do you where do you come down 773 00:41:20,120 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 1: on that? I think it's great. I think it's great. 774 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,960 Speaker 1: When he was eighteen, he said he dates someone as 775 00:41:23,960 --> 00:41:28,320 Speaker 1: old as his mom. So, um, that's younger. Olivia Wild's 776 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,960 Speaker 1: way younger. That guy makes a lot of the right moves. 777 00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,480 Speaker 1: He moves the needle, he dresses in a certain way. 778 00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: He seems to appeal across and still Olivia Wilders and 779 00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:42,280 Speaker 1: all sorts of things. And now he's going for the uh, 780 00:41:42,320 --> 00:41:47,120 Speaker 1: the older woman market. He's with Taylor Swift for a while. Mhm. 781 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:51,120 Speaker 1: Running the gambit. Where do you come down on Styles 782 00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:55,680 Speaker 1: as a recording artist, Mark Um? I actually think he's 783 00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:58,359 Speaker 1: very talented. I do, And I listened to a little 784 00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:01,319 Speaker 1: bit of the the group he was with. Um, I 785 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:05,400 Speaker 1: don't know one direction. Are our kids like some of 786 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:07,480 Speaker 1: their songs when they were younger? So I think he 787 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:13,200 Speaker 1: is actually like a ultra talented dude. And good for him. 788 00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:17,320 Speaker 1: You know, so much of the world is very handsome British. Um. 789 00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: You know, He's been in a couple of movies. He's 790 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,759 Speaker 1: an actor. He can do it all. If you're you know, 791 00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,520 Speaker 1: if you're old enough, you know, George Michael was the 792 00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:26,919 Speaker 1: biggest like British pop star in the world thirty years ago, 793 00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:30,759 Speaker 1: and then about twenty years ago Robbie Williams. He had 794 00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:33,759 Speaker 1: a big run there. Now it's Harry Styles the time, 795 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:35,279 Speaker 1: and we just got to get out of the way 796 00:42:35,600 --> 00:42:39,200 Speaker 1: and enjoy it and then take all that watermelon sugar, 797 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:41,520 Speaker 1: take all that we can handle, even if we get 798 00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,360 Speaker 1: the diabetes. Greg final word to you, Yeah, what do 799 00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:47,919 Speaker 1: you think about him and dresses? Greg Go? I can't 800 00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: say I'm too familiar with Harry's work, but I do 801 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,640 Speaker 1: love me some of Olivia Wild, So he has has 802 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: terrific taste Olivia Wild driving Greg Wild about that. That's 803 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,879 Speaker 1: quite a real revelation late in the show. I mean, 804 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: I don't think I'm like, that's a it's not a 805 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,760 Speaker 1: you know, a sneaky corner to be on or anything. 806 00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:13,919 Speaker 1: All right, good, no show tomorrow. Uh, we'll be back 807 00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:18,080 Speaker 1: on Thursday. Thank you to everybody for listening. Uh, we've 808 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:20,280 Speaker 1: given you plenty of content in the last twenty four hours. 809 00:43:20,719 --> 00:43:27,000 Speaker 1: So Please be thankful, leave us alone, don't criticize what 810 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: we do. We're trying our best to give you the 811 00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:34,520 Speaker 1: content you deserve. Take what you get and like it 812 00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:37,200 Speaker 1: all right? This is Dan. I had to signing off 813 00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: for the old Boss, Quiet Storm Ricky Hollywood behind the 814 00:43:41,680 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: virtual of glass until Thursday. S