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Speaker 1: Are you surprised that he's still in the league and

427
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: are you surprised that he's developed into the leader that

428
00:22:04,800 --> 00:22:06,720
Speaker 1: he has when you think about where where he was

429
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:09,760
Speaker 1: when he first came into the NFL. I'm not surprised

430
00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:13,359
Speaker 1: that any of that, Um, because I've known Terrell for

431
00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,879
Speaker 1: a long time and he's always been this young, fun

432
00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:21,720
Speaker 1: loving kid and he's always kind of been demonstrative and boisterous.

433
00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:24,720
Speaker 1: You know, He's always had that personality. He's always had

434
00:22:24,760 --> 00:22:26,720
Speaker 1: that personal I mean it was from day one his

435
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,520
Speaker 1: freshman ar at a s U and they were in

436
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,520
Speaker 1: the state. He was he was the same then as

437
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,879
Speaker 1: he is now as far as has fun loving, you

438
00:22:34,920 --> 00:22:40,280
Speaker 1: know personality. But the thing that people I don't know

439
00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,280
Speaker 1: about Terrell is is he is really smartly. He's a

440
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:49,399
Speaker 1: brilliant kid. And people don't see that because they see

441
00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:53,240
Speaker 1: a certain personality of persona, but they don't see, you know,

442
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,840
Speaker 1: how smart he really is and what he's doing, you know,

443
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,240
Speaker 1: on the field and in the locker room. He's just

444
00:22:58,359 --> 00:23:01,320
Speaker 1: he's just all around smart guy. It sometimes he tries

445
00:23:01,359 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: to play it off like not something. I don't know

446
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 1: what it is, but he's he's really smart. And it's

447
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:10,800
Speaker 1: been awesome for for me to see because I've seen him,

448
00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 1: you know, from from an issue all the way here.

449
00:23:12,760 --> 00:23:15,800
Speaker 1: Has been awesome for so many people to see just

450
00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:21,359
Speaker 1: the leader he's developed into, you know, um, because you know,

451
00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 1: it was always Ray Lewis, it was always certain guys,

452
00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,440
Speaker 1: but everybody can be a leader in their own way.

453
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:30,560
Speaker 1: And as you as you get older, has to become

454
00:23:30,600 --> 00:23:33,960
Speaker 1: a veteran, you develop, you know, into the style of

455
00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:35,680
Speaker 1: leaders that you want to that you want to be

456
00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 1: and and he's been a good one for this for

457
00:23:38,760 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: this Ravens team, the Ravens defense especially. I want to

458
00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:43,920
Speaker 1: go back. You talk about, you know, Sugs when he

459
00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 1: first came in the league. I don't talk about when

460
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,919
Speaker 1: you first came into the league because you came in

461
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,840
Speaker 1: right off the Super Bowl, the heels of the Super

462
00:23:48,880 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 1: Bowl and Hard Knocks was your first introduction to the NFL.

463
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:54,639
Speaker 1: And I you were one of my favorite characters on

464
00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 1: Hard Knocks because you come in and you seem very

465
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,919
Speaker 1: young when you came in. I was the youngest twenty

466
00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 1: one year old ever to come into Very honest, I was.

467
00:24:05,600 --> 00:24:09,560
Speaker 1: I was very naive the ways of the world. I

468
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:13,800
Speaker 1: was not immature, you know, um, but I was very

469
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:16,399
Speaker 1: I was naive to the ways of the world. And

470
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:22,800
Speaker 1: and coming from Mesa, Arizona, you know, you know where

471
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:27,040
Speaker 1: I came from, it was understandable. But yeah, I looked

472
00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:28,840
Speaker 1: back and I just shake my head at that first

473
00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 1: year especially, but it's hard for me to watch Hard

474
00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,920
Speaker 1: Knocks because I just shake my head and laugh at myself.

475
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,360
Speaker 1: You were newly wed, you just got married to your wife, Ashley.

476
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 1: You come in and didn't you like carry her into

477
00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:45,680
Speaker 1: the condo or the apartment that you guys got on. Well,

478
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,679
Speaker 1: you gotta understand, we like literally had just we just

479
00:24:49,760 --> 00:24:53,359
Speaker 1: got married a week prior and so so training camp

480
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,200
Speaker 1: it was it was we wanted like a two day

481
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:02,280
Speaker 1: honeymoon to California and Disneyland, and you went from Arizona

482
00:25:02,320 --> 00:25:04,640
Speaker 1: there and then just flew straight to Baltimore for camp.

483
00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 1: So you know, we we didn't really get our honeymoon

484
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:13,959
Speaker 1: until after the season was over. But you know, it was, Yeah,

485
00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: I looked back with fond memories, but also I look

486
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,280
Speaker 1: back and just laugh at how how young I was.

487
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 1: What what things did you? What things are a rude

488
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 1: awakening when you first came into the league. Um, I

489
00:25:28,080 --> 00:25:31,359
Speaker 1: don't know if there was much rude awakening as far

490
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:35,679
Speaker 1: as football was concerned. Um, but like it was just

491
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,000
Speaker 1: like life on your own kind. I mean, it was

492
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:40,280
Speaker 1: the first time I'd ever really been away from home,

493
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: you know, and and same with my wife, same with Ashley,

494
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480
Speaker 1: and so you know, we get out here and and

495
00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:49,960
Speaker 1: she never been away. She's homesick, and she's you know,

496
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:53,040
Speaker 1: doesn't have any friends or family out here, and so

497
00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 1: it was kind of tough just finding her own way

498
00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:59,320
Speaker 1: out here on our own and and doing our own thing.

499
00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:02,639
Speaker 1: But uh, I tell you what it's it was great

500
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 1: for our relationship in our marriage, and to be able

501
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: to do that and grow together on our own finally

502
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,280
Speaker 1: has made us a lot. For sure, it's trial by fire,

503
00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: but it's made us a lot strong. And so tell

504
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 1: us about the first time that you met ray Lewis.

505
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:21,879
Speaker 1: First time, well, ray Lewis was my welcome to the

506
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 1: NFL moment. Usually people say it's you know, somebody from

507
00:26:25,119 --> 00:26:31,520
Speaker 1: another team, know the way we practiced back then, we

508
00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: went all out and training camp was something else, you know,

509
00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:39,080
Speaker 1: and Billy Brian, Billy did take care of us in

510
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: some respects, but he did that knowing we were trying

511
00:26:42,080 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: to take each other's heads off for practice, you know.

512
00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 1: And so that was we put on pads for the

513
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:50,840
Speaker 1: first time. We get to training camp and I'm you know,

514
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying that was one probably the most veteran team

515
00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:56,600
Speaker 1: in the history of the NFL. I mean, we had

516
00:26:56,640 --> 00:26:59,639
Speaker 1: so many veteran guys that that had made a name

517
00:26:59,680 --> 00:27:02,400
Speaker 1: for them self, that were Pro Bowlers, that were already

518
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:07,240
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame caliber guys, and uh, you know, we

519
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:09,560
Speaker 1: so I'm I'm this is this is kind of a

520
00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:11,520
Speaker 1: big deal. I'm playing with all these guys that I've

521
00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,679
Speaker 1: been watching on TV for so many years. And right

522
00:27:14,440 --> 00:27:16,840
Speaker 1: and very first play for me, I go right over

523
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: the middle, right in front, you know, catch a little

524
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:22,560
Speaker 1: route right in front of Ray Lewis, and he just

525
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: comes downhill and just drills me right in the middle

526
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,679
Speaker 1: of my back. And I think I went, you know,

527
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:32,080
Speaker 1: four yards the other way. You know, it was only

528
00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:35,199
Speaker 1: a five yard catch for progress, so I ended up

529
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,560
Speaker 1: getting five yards, but he hit me so hard and

530
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: I held onto the ball and and I don't remember

531
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:44,239
Speaker 1: what he said to me because I was too far

532
00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:47,280
Speaker 1: away from me so hard. But but I think, you know,

533
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: he was like, all right, this, this guy can do it.

534
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: You know. I mean, you try to earn your respect

535
00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 1: early in the NFL. You don't want to go out

536
00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: and show him what you what you can do, especially

537
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,320
Speaker 1: in practice. But that was I mean when I when

538
00:27:59,359 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 1: he hit me solidly in practice, I was like, Okay,

539
00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: this is a different ball game. Yeah, this is this

540
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:08,280
Speaker 1: is not you know, this is not the same thing

541
00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: as college football. It's it's it's a different ball game.

542
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 1: He could have gotten in your first fight, your first

543
00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: like scrum right then with practice with Ray that would

544
00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: have been a ballsy movie. I heard stand about plays

545
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: with Ray lois my first practice. It's funny it hadn't

546
00:28:23,359 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 1: been a dirty hit, maybe I would have tract it was.

547
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: It was clean as I yet. I mean, he drilled

548
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 1: me hard right in the back, um, and that was funny.

549
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: Like that was a piece of advice my my uncle

550
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,160
Speaker 1: gave me. You know, He's like, you're kind of get

551
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:40,280
Speaker 1: in a fight advice. I was like, I was like,

552
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 1: you know that was not my personality whatever, and I

553
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: got my share of you know, practice scrums, but it

554
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:50,920
Speaker 1: took about to get me one. You know, I think

555
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: it's really cool that you have maintained, you know, such

556
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: a great We're poor with the organization. You know, you're

557
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,440
Speaker 1: one of the players that I mean, ring of honor

558
00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:02,000
Speaker 1: and all that. But but you are somebody that still

559
00:29:02,040 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: has really close ties to this organization. And that's not

560
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,200
Speaker 1: necessarily the case for every player when they leave. I mean,

561
00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: the Ravens released you in and some players may like

562
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 1: harbor ill will towards a team for that, why did you, like,

563
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 1: why have you been able to stay so close to

564
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:15,880
Speaker 1: the organization and it did it take you a while

565
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: to get over that or what is your thought on that? No,

566
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:20,960
Speaker 1: it didn't take me hardly any time to get over it.

567
00:29:21,000 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 1: I mean when they did release me, you can bet

568
00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,080
Speaker 1: I was frustrated. She was mad. I wanted to finish

569
00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: my career here as a Raven. But at the same time,

570
00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: I have a fault that I I'm able to I

571
00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:36,160
Speaker 1: see both sides of every you know, of everything, and

572
00:29:36,200 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 1: so I can I can see the side for the

573
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,240
Speaker 1: management what they're thinking, and you know, and I also

574
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: see my side and what I'm thinking too. So I

575
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:48,080
Speaker 1: knew business was business, and I'm not going to hold

576
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: that against anybody in the building. UM. And I was

577
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: here for ten years, you know, I was here for

578
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: ten years, and I had the greatest time here. And

579
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: the fans were so cool to me. UM took me

580
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: in from from literally the first first from hard knocks,

581
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: and so I just had such a great experience in

582
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:13,080
Speaker 1: Baltimore here, and I had such a great experience with

583
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,880
Speaker 1: the people in this organization. UM. I mean, I know,

584
00:30:17,960 --> 00:30:22,080
Speaker 1: you guys can attest to it, but from ownership on down,

585
00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:24,840
Speaker 1: every level managed, they give you what you need to

586
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: do your job. And they're great people. You know, this organism.

587
00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,280
Speaker 1: There's a reason why the Ravens will never be down

588
00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:35,160
Speaker 1: for long, and it's because it starts from the top.

589
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: You know. When I got here, it was Art Modell,

590
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:41,200
Speaker 1: and shortly after it was Steve Ashadi, and he changed

591
00:30:41,240 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: a few things, but he kind of came in that

592
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: same mold of how to run an organization and how

593
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: to handle handle things. And it's just been first class

594
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,880
Speaker 1: all the way. And so I look at the Ravens

595
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:57,480
Speaker 1: is kind of a beacon of of how you want

596
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 1: to do things and for any of organization or any

597
00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:05,080
Speaker 1: business or anything anywhere. You know, the Ravens have always

598
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 1: done things the right way, and they surround themselves with

599
00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: really good people across the board. There's so many great

600
00:31:10,600 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 1: people in this building that I have such high respect for.

601
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, I love coming back around the building

602
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: because I love to see all those faces. And there's

603
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: not there's a lot of continuity as well, and that's

604
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: the sign of a great organization as well. So you know,

605
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,880
Speaker 1: I love seeing some of these guys, you know, guys

606
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: that I've been here for a long time with and

607
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 1: you go through a lot with and you experience so

608
00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:38,760
Speaker 1: many different things with. So no, I there's not enough

609
00:31:38,800 --> 00:31:42,040
Speaker 1: good things I can say about this organization, not only

610
00:31:42,080 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: for giving me an opportunity, but for also just how

611
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 1: they handle their business. Well, the only bad thing you

612
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,480
Speaker 1: can say is what the hell guys he brought me

613
00:31:48,520 --> 00:31:52,040
Speaker 1: in the year after the first year boards two years

614
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,440
Speaker 1: before the second one. You know how many times I

615
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 1: have to explain this, you know, And I hate when

616
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: people ask me to sign that will bring a Super

617
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 1: Bowl all or something? Will you signed this for me?

618
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I'll sign it, but I didn't play

619
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:10,200
Speaker 1: on If there's any raven Honestly, if we're making a

620
00:32:10,200 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 1: list of Ravens you deserve a Super Bowl ring, but

621
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: they can't get one, you would absolutely be at the

622
00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 1: top of that list. No in You know, I'm super

623
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 1: you know, elated about my career and what I was

624
00:32:23,680 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 1: able to do here for the ten years that I

625
00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 1: was here. You know, a super Bowl would have been awesome,

626
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: but it doesn't take away from anything from my experience.

627
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:39,120
Speaker 1: You know, we had so many great, great seasons. You

628
00:32:39,200 --> 00:32:41,280
Speaker 1: have the ups and downs, but we had such a

629
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 1: great time and I've met so many great people. Um,

630
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 1: those are the things you do you remember, you know

631
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,880
Speaker 1: as the people you're around, the guys in the locker room.

632
00:32:51,920 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean, we had some really fun times and those

633
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: are the times you miss is you know so many

634
00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: good people and you don't get to see him much,

635
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:01,920
Speaker 1: but when you do, it's like you caught up right

636
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 1: where you left a well to wars out of have

637
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 1: you back here you know today and doing these four games.

638
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: So thank you very much for your time today, and

639
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,400
Speaker 1: you know we'll be enjoy listening to you on the radio.

640
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: Broadcast this. This is your last game, so you have

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Speaker 1: a chance to get back to five. So we hope

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Speaker 1: that happens. Like record short week, we haven't lost at

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Speaker 1: home on Thursday night. Let's not here we go. Thank

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Speaker 1: you to I appreciate it, man. Thanks guys, well, good

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Speaker 1: stuff from Todd. Awesome. One thing we were talking about

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Speaker 1: before we went on the air was some of the

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Speaker 1: hits that he took over the years. Oh my lordie

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Speaker 1: lordie lord. He never when he would get tackled, it

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Speaker 1: was never like a shoe string tackle that like casually

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Speaker 1: brought him down. It was every single tie it was

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Speaker 1: a bone crushing hit by like three different guys that

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Speaker 1: got sandwich between them. Helmett helmet to helmet like every

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Speaker 1: single time. I mean we talked a little bit about

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Speaker 1: the offense during his days. I mean, this guy played

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Speaker 1: with ten quarterbacks in ten years. I want to say it.

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Speaker 1: I don't ever remember him catching a single ball that

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Speaker 1: was like an easy catch on the run, just cruising

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Speaker 1: to the end zone. Literally, I don't remember that happening

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Speaker 1: one time. Yeah, yeah, he Like you said to him,

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Speaker 1: if there's anybody that is on the list of guys

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Speaker 1: that deserve Super Bowl ring Todds at the top of

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Speaker 1: that list. So he's one of the best Ravens ever

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Speaker 1: and and he's also one of the best guys to

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Speaker 1: ever wear a Ravens uniform. Absolutely absolutely great dude. So

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Speaker 1: thank you very much to Todd Heap and we're gonna listen.

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Speaker 1: You can listen to Todd. This is a little pluck

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Speaker 1: for the radio broadcast. Listen to Todd and Jerry Sandusky

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Speaker 1: stand White ninety eight Rock w B A L. So

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Speaker 1: you can stream that on our website. So go ahead

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Speaker 1: and listen to that. And it's a great way to

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Speaker 1: you know, listen to the game rather than you know,

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Speaker 1: just watching on TV. And just to give fans a

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Speaker 1: little insight here, I am still working on booking Alex

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Speaker 1: Collins for the podcast. He walked in yesterday. I said, Alex,

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Speaker 1: today's today, big dog. We're doing this and he's like, oh, man,

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Speaker 1: I got I got a meeting. I got a meeting.

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Speaker 1: I gotta go to him like, no, you don't. I

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Speaker 1: looked at this schedule and he's like oh. Then he

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Speaker 1: gets to the teammates to you know, corrobrate a story. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hey many prison, Yeah, benjam Watson, don't don't we have

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Speaker 1: a meeting. Oh yeah, and then and then I'm like,

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Speaker 1: all right, fine, when's the meeting again? It says four

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Speaker 1: thirty of you back my locker said I'm gonna be

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Speaker 1: at your locker. He goes, well, maybe I won't be.

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Speaker 1: You know, I'll do it if you can find me.

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Speaker 1: We've heard every excuse of We've you heard every excuse

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Speaker 1: in the books over our time. I'm doing this nothing.

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Speaker 1: We'll we'll phase us or fool us. You can try everything.

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Speaker 1: It's like we're gonna get him with something as a

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Speaker 1: marked man on my list. I'm telling you this. I'm

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Speaker 1: bringing in the FBI. I'm hunting this dude down. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: we'll get Alex Collins on the pod, So make sure

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Speaker 1: you're tuning in next week and we'll be back with

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Speaker 1: you for a lot more fun times in the lounge.

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Speaker 1: Spats Pass