1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:07,400 Speaker 1: This is the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt Williamson 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,879 Speaker 1: on your seven home of the Black and gold S 3 00:00:11,000 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: n our Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome to the Drive. I'm 4 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,120 Speaker 1: Scale Lolly here with Matt Williamson. Matt, it's a playoff Monday. 5 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: Can't wait till we talk about this game all week 6 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: long and it should be a lot of fun and 7 00:01:45,400 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: of course our Steelers Nation Coverage of the Steelers playoffs 8 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:53,400 Speaker 1: is presented by fed X and Ford. Um. But yeah, 9 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 1: I mean yesterday was weird because I came out of 10 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: that game and I'm sitting here right and you know 11 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 1: the general feeling. I know, the Steelers lost the football game, 12 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: but I really felt like something felt more like a win. 13 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: I thought the same thing, you know, like everything I 14 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,200 Speaker 1: wanted out of that game and some of it I 15 00:02:12,240 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 1: wanted as the game went along, all really worked out. 16 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:16,880 Speaker 1: It was kind of like the perfect day without the 17 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:20,200 Speaker 1: w you got through without any any injuries. Mason Rudolph 18 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: looked like an NFL quarterback. Those were two of the 19 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:26,680 Speaker 1: big ones for me. They ran the football somewhat effectively. Yeah. Um, 20 00:02:27,040 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: they made plays down the field, you know, they got 21 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,919 Speaker 1: they did what we said feature Chase Claypool and a 22 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: good moved by you yeah, and then the other one. 23 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:37,800 Speaker 1: And as I was watching it realized it was going 24 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,040 Speaker 1: to come to fruition, which is why the W wouldn't 25 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: have been so great. If I could pick any team 26 00:02:42,440 --> 00:02:43,840 Speaker 1: in the playoffs to play in around one would be 27 00:02:43,919 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: this one. Yeah, you know, I think that sets up 28 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 1: well for I mean, if you if you look at it, 29 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,799 Speaker 1: um and I started looking this up today for something 30 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: I'm I'm writing. The only quarterback in the a f 31 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,920 Speaker 1: C playoffs who does not have any any playoff experience 32 00:02:59,160 --> 00:03:02,919 Speaker 1: is Baker Mayfah. I thought about that, but that definitely true, right, 33 00:03:03,080 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 1: And it's different. He's and he's a high strung guy 34 00:03:07,040 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: to begin with. He's gonna come out, he's gonna end 35 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:15,320 Speaker 1: up making a mistake, probably overthrow a ball, and there's 36 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:18,080 Speaker 1: Manko waiting for it's gonna be I don't expect this 37 00:03:18,120 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: game to be close. I don't either. I mean, I 38 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: think it sets up really well. Steels JV squad took 39 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,120 Speaker 1: them to the limit. I mean took them ten rounds. 40 00:03:26,120 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 1: It was very Browns, Like I mean, I'm sitting there 41 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,080 Speaker 1: is when they when Joel Botonio they had a fourth 42 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:34,040 Speaker 1: and one in their own territories, like the forty yard 43 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 1: line fourth and one, and they were gonna go for it, yes, 44 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: and then Botonio false started right um, and it was 45 00:03:40,440 --> 00:03:42,200 Speaker 1: a one score game at that point. I'm like, the 46 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: Browns are browning here, They're they're they're they're choking this 47 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 1: is and they and they damn near did yea twice 48 00:03:48,920 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 1: twice they give up the touchdown and then on the 49 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: on side kick that was that was that was dicey 50 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: right there is. I mean, I'm a fashion of Browns. 51 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: I'm playing on saying a lot of goods about them 52 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:05,920 Speaker 1: this week. I mean, but I feel like they accomplished 53 00:04:05,960 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: their goal. As it feel like the teams have different goals, 54 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:10,160 Speaker 1: you know, one is to win at all. One was 55 00:04:10,200 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 1: again of the postseason and take that first step. It's 56 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: been forever for them, and the world's a better place 57 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 1: when the brown fans are not just talking about all 58 00:04:17,960 --> 00:04:22,080 Speaker 1: the all the quarterback names on jerseys and the laughing stock. 59 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 1: So good. I'm glad that they're a legit team and 60 00:04:25,120 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 1: they're one of the best seven teams in the a 61 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: f C. But that's who I want to play, you know, 62 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,480 Speaker 1: especially with the defensive full strength and the pressure they're 63 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,680 Speaker 1: gonna put on Mayfield. Um and you know again they 64 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: got in. In two games against Mayfield this year, the 65 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: Steelers sacked him eight times. They hit him, I believe, 66 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: thirteen times in two games with that offensive line. That 67 00:04:46,880 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 1: I mean, the Browns offensive line is good, very good. 68 00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:55,359 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's just not against the Steelers because I 69 00:04:55,360 --> 00:04:57,960 Speaker 1: don't I don't know that any offensive line is necessarily 70 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 1: good against the Steelers. No, I think, right, I just 71 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: think that there their pass rush, even without Bud, is 72 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:05,760 Speaker 1: to the point where it just gets it gets there's 73 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: every week. And that was the other thing that I 74 00:05:07,600 --> 00:05:09,839 Speaker 1: took out of that game, Like high Smith had legit 75 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 1: pressures he looks like and that's working against their their 76 00:05:15,520 --> 00:05:20,039 Speaker 1: starting like last week last week against the Colts, it 77 00:05:20,120 --> 00:05:22,120 Speaker 1: was a it was a backup and then a backup 78 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 1: to the backup. You know in this in this instance, 79 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:27,080 Speaker 1: that's the that's their left tackle. That's a guy they 80 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: took in the first round, who's who was supposed to 81 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: be one of the best guys in the in the 82 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 1: draft this year that they're very happy with and a 83 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 1: very good rookie year, and he was beating him. He 84 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:39,000 Speaker 1: was high Smith. I mean I didn't know as much 85 00:05:39,040 --> 00:05:41,239 Speaker 1: as I should have about him when the Steelers picked them, 86 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: but I shook my head a little bit, going, uh, 87 00:05:43,320 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: that's not that's not sexy, like when they made the pick, 88 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,719 Speaker 1: and then I went back and watched them more and thought, 89 00:05:48,240 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: he's got a red shirt. He has something, you know, 90 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 1: he needs to get stronger. He's far exceeded in my expectations. 91 00:05:53,800 --> 00:05:57,280 Speaker 1: Like now I'm pretty confident, like this defense can overcome 92 00:05:57,279 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the loss of Bud. I mean it's not ideal, but 93 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: he's not Bud. But he's not. But he's pretty darn 94 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: good and he would start for any team out there. 95 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,200 Speaker 1: And it'll be a nice compliment to TJ for the 96 00:06:07,200 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: next couple of years. And he gets better every time 97 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: I watched him. Yeah, the Browns would kill to have 98 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: him right now with Olivia Vernon. If you haven't heard 99 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 1: the news on that yet, Torn Achilles tendon Um didn't 100 00:06:18,080 --> 00:06:20,120 Speaker 1: think he was gonna be available for this game. Now 101 00:06:20,160 --> 00:06:22,320 Speaker 1: he may not be available to start next year. He's 102 00:06:22,320 --> 00:06:26,279 Speaker 1: gonna be a free agent. Yeah, Um, And he was 103 00:06:26,800 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 1: if you look at it. He had no sacks in 104 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:34,600 Speaker 1: the first six games of this season. Um, finished a 105 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: year with nine, including one yesterday. He was he was 106 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 1: their best defensive player down the stretch because Myles Myles 107 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,159 Speaker 1: Garrett was not playing is not playing well. It seems 108 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: like it's post COVID with him too, And I'm there's 109 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: some of that. I was. I was actually watching UM 110 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: when I went to Cleveland Saturday night and I went 111 00:06:54,120 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: across the street. There was a right next to my hotel. 112 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,479 Speaker 1: There was a restaurant there, and I just happened to 113 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 1: go over to get some food. And as I was 114 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 1: sitting there, they were showing the the Ravens Browns game 115 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: on on TV, the one and if you remember he 116 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,480 Speaker 1: got hurt in that game, it looked like it was 117 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: it was a kind of a hyper extension of his arm. Yeah, 118 00:07:17,240 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: And I just wonder if that's if that's bothering him 119 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: a little bit because in the last five, yeah, the 120 00:07:21,880 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: last five games, he had two and a half sacks 121 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:27,320 Speaker 1: for you know, that works out into an eight sex season, 122 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: which was fine, but that's not what he is. And 123 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: he didn't really affect the game at all yesterday, right, 124 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:38,520 Speaker 1: And actually Claiborne, I think gave all more problems than Garrett. 125 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: You know, I mean, and he's not a bad player. 126 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean he can. He's a more of a rotation guy, 127 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:44,640 Speaker 1: you know, het up in the eight, long in the 128 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: tooth too, So I mean he's an okay, you know, replacement. 129 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,080 Speaker 1: But um, you're right, Vernon was is a big loss 130 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: for them. And he's a real good edge setter. He's 131 00:07:52,320 --> 00:07:54,240 Speaker 1: played a ton of snaps over his career. I mean, 132 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: he's always a high volume guy. And and if Garrett's down, 133 00:07:58,040 --> 00:07:59,800 Speaker 1: I mean, I know Ward comes back. He's our second 134 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:02,680 Speaker 1: defensive player. And I've always kind of looked at their 135 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: defense like they have two stars rest the lines, you know, right, 136 00:08:07,960 --> 00:08:10,080 Speaker 1: and now you're missing a couple of those guys and 137 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: Garrett's not the same. That's problematic. Yeah, I just I mean, 138 00:08:14,760 --> 00:08:17,920 Speaker 1: to me, that's a huge loss for them. Uh and 139 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: we'll see. I will see what happens with Donovan. People's 140 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: showns as well. He suffered a concussion in that game. 141 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,320 Speaker 1: You st he's the number three receiver and their punt returner, 142 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean the receiver. So I mean that 143 00:08:30,920 --> 00:08:33,920 Speaker 1: that definitely hurts them as well. Uh That's why you know, 144 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:38,239 Speaker 1: to me, the Steelers getting through that thing injury free. Um, 145 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: I mean, that was the that was the main goal. Yeah, 146 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 1: you know, winning that game as much as Mike Thomas, 147 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:47,079 Speaker 1: you know, we played just to win it and all 148 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: that stuff. You really didn't not the right and everyone 149 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: tried their hardest on every snap. Of the guys who 150 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:55,960 Speaker 1: were out there were trying. It wasn't like they said, oh, 151 00:08:55,960 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: we're just gonna let this happen. No, but and you 152 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: did some You showed some daw wrinkles and some things 153 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,160 Speaker 1: to produce offense, and you game plan for them obviously, 154 00:09:04,920 --> 00:09:09,360 Speaker 1: and it wasn't a preseason and you know environment. But 155 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:11,240 Speaker 1: from what I saw, it looked like some of the 156 00:09:11,240 --> 00:09:14,079 Speaker 1: backup linemen were warming up. They were right before the 157 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:17,079 Speaker 1: before the Claypool touchdown, before they converted the fourth the 158 00:09:17,559 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: fourth down on the past to Deante Johnson to keep 159 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: that drive going when it was twenty four to nine. 160 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,640 Speaker 1: Those offensive lineman Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, So which is fine. 161 00:09:28,679 --> 00:09:30,679 Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't if you watched the Eagles game 162 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: last night, that was an embarrassment trying to lose. It 163 00:09:34,000 --> 00:09:38,360 Speaker 1: wasn't like that I see. To me, It's not like 164 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts was playing well, No he was not. He 165 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,720 Speaker 1: really was. So you know, the yelling and screaming comeing 166 00:09:45,720 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: out coming out of New York over that one. You 167 00:09:48,040 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: know what, you don't go six and ten and then 168 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: and then you know, then you don't have to worry 169 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: about it. It's not like that. It's not like you 170 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: were both you were ten and six and in Washington 171 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: was eleven and five or something like that. Oh man, 172 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 1: we just missed out. No know, you won six games, 173 00:10:01,120 --> 00:10:03,320 Speaker 1: he won six games. You got what you deserved. And 174 00:10:03,360 --> 00:10:05,839 Speaker 1: I didn't care at all about the Giants angle. Maybe 175 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: it just rubbed me wrong. I was watching that game 176 00:10:07,600 --> 00:10:10,440 Speaker 1: just thinking, I'm not sure that the integrity of the 177 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: game is in place here for this Philly has any intentions. 178 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: They're like they're trying to lose. But I don't know. 179 00:10:16,040 --> 00:10:17,439 Speaker 1: It rubbed me wrong, And a lot of it was 180 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:21,959 Speaker 1: just watching the the faces on the Eagles Lineman and Hurts, 181 00:10:22,080 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: and you know, nobody was thrilled with the decision, you 182 00:10:25,640 --> 00:10:28,040 Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, I get it. I mean, 183 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,800 Speaker 1: but they did go for it. They gave Hurts a 184 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:33,240 Speaker 1: chance to put them ahead. Yeah, when they went for 185 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:35,959 Speaker 1: it on fourth down, fourth and goal and and didn't 186 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 1: do it. I mean, if they score that touchdown there, 187 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,320 Speaker 1: they might win the game. No, they might. I mean 188 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:42,679 Speaker 1: they could have been the better team. And that's kind 189 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 1: of my point almost anyway, and the Steelers weren't in 190 00:10:45,360 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: that situation obviously. Um, and they almost could win the game. 191 00:10:49,320 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean they that really was awfully close to knocking 192 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:56,440 Speaker 1: the Brownies out, you know, absolutely, And you know, you 193 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,880 Speaker 1: could make the argument that Chase Claypole was interfered with 194 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:02,560 Speaker 1: on that on the on the two point conversion. Um, 195 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: if you see the Browns, go back and watch the 196 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: Browns run on first down when they got the ball 197 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,560 Speaker 1: back after the on side kick, Vince Williams got tackled 198 00:11:10,559 --> 00:11:14,400 Speaker 1: in the backfield just completely he yanked down as he 199 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 1: shot through. It was gonna have the stopping up the 200 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 1: tackle for a loss, or at least it was gonna 201 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:22,600 Speaker 1: not gonna be an eight yard game, which is what 202 00:11:22,679 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: it turned into. Yeah. Um, and he just got tackled 203 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: in the backfield, just just completely yanked down. Is he okay? Yeah? Okay, 204 00:11:32,640 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: I thought, I mean I thought coach Tomas said that 205 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,000 Speaker 1: there's no injury concerns, but he didn't really play much 206 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:38,600 Speaker 1: the second half. Yeah, I mean they were, you know, 207 00:11:38,640 --> 00:11:41,440 Speaker 1: taking it easy. You know To it wasn't out there 208 00:11:41,440 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 1: a lot. They pulled the cornerback. Say, you know, at 209 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: one point I looked out there and the only starting 210 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,440 Speaker 1: defensive player on the field when the Browns were kind 211 00:11:48,440 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: of driving down the field, Um, I think it was 212 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 1: before they're there. Well, they ended up punting, and they 213 00:11:54,520 --> 00:11:57,079 Speaker 1: think in that situation, but the only the only Steelers 214 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 1: starters still in the field was making Fitzpatrick a deep 215 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 1: middle and he's yeah, he's he's twenty five yards down 216 00:12:03,040 --> 00:12:05,080 Speaker 1: the field, like he's okay. You just make sure nothing 217 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:07,360 Speaker 1: gets over your head, if you know, keep everybody in 218 00:12:07,360 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 1: the same page. Yeah, you help call the defense. No, 219 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:14,240 Speaker 1: I mean really, I mean, if you think about it, it, 220 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,440 Speaker 1: consider him and To it are really the only two 221 00:12:17,520 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 1: that played serious snaps that are true starters, you know 222 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:24,040 Speaker 1: from you know, from opening day. Yeah, so, I mean, 223 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 1: do you look at that and you still gave up 224 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: twenty four points and you know the Browns had They 225 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,320 Speaker 1: can complain all they want about, well we didn't have 226 00:12:31,320 --> 00:12:33,840 Speaker 1: our defensive guys. You had your offense. That's as good 227 00:12:33,840 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 1: as that's your offense. Because you know that was when 228 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:38,079 Speaker 1: the Steelers beat him thirty eight to seven earlier, in 229 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: the year. Well, they didn't have Nick Chubb in that game. 230 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,319 Speaker 1: Well you had Nick Chubb in this game, and he 231 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:45,840 Speaker 1: did good things, obviously, did good things. But the offense 232 00:12:45,880 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: you still scored points. Yeah, to me, that might be 233 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 1: the most encouraging thing. I mean, I'm sure we'll talk 234 00:12:50,040 --> 00:12:55,319 Speaker 1: about the Rudolph performance. He showed he belonged, as you mentioned, um, 235 00:12:55,360 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 1: but I think the defense keeping them is inte as 236 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: they did with the play Yars of Steelers had, and 237 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 1: I thought they shut down the run game reasonably. Well, 238 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:06,719 Speaker 1: I mean it's a different standard. The Steelers were killed 239 00:13:06,760 --> 00:13:08,840 Speaker 1: to run that well, you know, but as well as 240 00:13:08,840 --> 00:13:11,319 Speaker 1: the Browns can run. I didn't Seels did a pretty 241 00:13:11,320 --> 00:13:13,360 Speaker 1: decent job against their running game. One long run to 242 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: side obviously, which was ugly, But I think Hunts had 243 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,520 Speaker 1: ten carries for thirty seven yards UM, which again, if 244 00:13:20,559 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 1: you hold to hold a lead back to three point 245 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: seven per carrying, okay, and you know they run the ball. 246 00:13:28,960 --> 00:13:31,600 Speaker 1: Rub broke off that long run and he's he's a problem. 247 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: And then Mayfield had that twenty six yards scramble and 248 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: Marcus Allen allowed him to escape out of the out 249 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:38,480 Speaker 1: of the back. Mayfield did make some plays with his 250 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: feeding credit, but overall I didn't think. I mean, I 251 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: don't think their offense, if they get to the would 252 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: run just by. If with Cam and Watt and all 253 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:52,080 Speaker 1: those guys, if they get the same performance from the 254 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: defense this week, I still think they win. Yeah, and 255 00:13:55,120 --> 00:13:59,679 Speaker 1: I bet it's better. Yeah. I mean Mayfield is not 256 00:13:59,720 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: gonna escape those He's not gonna have the escape lanes 257 00:14:02,240 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 1: that he normally would have definitely had more. Yeah, he's 258 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: gonna get hit more. They'll stop, they won't give up 259 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:10,560 Speaker 1: that that long touchdown and run the chop. I mean 260 00:14:10,600 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 1: that's not been on issue. I mean that was right 261 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 1: through where where t J what would normally be um. 262 00:14:16,280 --> 00:14:17,719 Speaker 1: I mean when he gets in the open field, he's 263 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 1: very dangerous. Right, that's what you can't have. But I 264 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,440 Speaker 1: don't think people are gonna be moving Cam Heyward off 265 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage particularly well either. I mean it's 266 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:27,240 Speaker 1: in a lulu into it and those guys. So now 267 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:29,920 Speaker 1: I think that the defense sets up well against these guys. Yeah, 268 00:14:29,920 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 1: So it's gonna be interesting. We'll see how this goes. 269 00:14:32,080 --> 00:14:34,280 Speaker 1: We'll see who gets back for this game. Of both 270 00:14:34,280 --> 00:14:38,120 Speaker 1: teams dealing with some COVID issues. Um, you know, and 271 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 1: I don't know because I don't know that he's going 272 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: to be because he was eligible if he was healthy. Well, 273 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:47,480 Speaker 1: here's the thing, he has to be on the list. 274 00:14:47,480 --> 00:14:48,880 Speaker 1: He tested positive, so he has to be on the 275 00:14:48,920 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: list for ten straight days. That would bring him off 276 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 1: the list. On Sunday would be his day back, his 277 00:14:55,600 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: first day back. Are you gonna throw him out there 278 00:14:57,960 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: in a playoff game when he hasn't practiced in ten 279 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: days anything, He didn't done anything anything. Yeah, he can't 280 00:15:01,840 --> 00:15:03,600 Speaker 1: do anything. Are you just gonna say, well, you're back, 281 00:15:03,600 --> 00:15:05,120 Speaker 1: so we're gonna throw you in the game? You tested 282 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 1: you tested negative this morning. Now he may want that, right, 283 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: and they still might do it. They might do it, 284 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,160 Speaker 1: But how good is he going to be? Right? I mean, 285 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: I don't know what is he having symptoms right now? 286 00:15:15,280 --> 00:15:17,040 Speaker 1: We don't know. They're going to say how sick was 287 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: he too? What I was about to say is has 288 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:20,720 Speaker 1: he warned some of these guys, even these great athletes, 289 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,160 Speaker 1: have said, yeah, I kicked my butt. I was really 290 00:15:23,200 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 1: worn down and it took me a while to get 291 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: back to normal. And you know who knows? Yeah, you 292 00:15:27,440 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: just I mean, yeah, people are asking Every week I 293 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: get asked about this guy or that guy. That guy's 294 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: a I don't know, nobody knows. I'm not a doctor. 295 00:15:35,520 --> 00:15:38,880 Speaker 1: And Hayden's the obvious one. And the teams that they, 296 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, they aren't permitted to say, yeah, well he's 297 00:15:40,760 --> 00:15:43,920 Speaker 1: having he experiencing something. They don't even tell you if 298 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,960 Speaker 1: he's positive or not. I mean finding that stuff out 299 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: is is you know, a state secret. So who don't 300 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:53,960 Speaker 1: know what they exactly hate and tested positive? Right? Well, 301 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,240 Speaker 1: he went on, he went on the COVID list. What 302 00:15:56,360 --> 00:16:00,240 Speaker 1: last Friday? So I think it's that that's when the 303 00:16:00,240 --> 00:16:03,160 Speaker 1: clock starts ticking. Okay, so it's ten days from the 304 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: minute you go on, Yeah, okay, so he's out, he's yeah, 305 00:16:06,640 --> 00:16:09,760 Speaker 1: he will not play this week. Now. Ebron and Cassius 306 00:16:09,800 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 1: Marsh were close contacts. But even that doesn't tell you 307 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 1: because you could be a close contact test negative for 308 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: four straight days, and on that fifth day when you 309 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: have you know, they test you again. Oh here you are, 310 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: you're positive, you know, and then that that changes everything. 311 00:16:25,920 --> 00:16:29,720 Speaker 1: So everything. Yeah, it's not like he turned purple or 312 00:16:29,760 --> 00:16:32,920 Speaker 1: something like that. Oh he's got the virus right right, 313 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:35,240 Speaker 1: And again, I mean who knows how six of these 314 00:16:35,240 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: guys are too, you know, I mean how they're feeling 315 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:39,440 Speaker 1: and playing football is not easy. It is not No, 316 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: it's very taxing on the body. R SNR coverage of 317 00:16:43,080 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers playoffs is presented by fed X and Ford. 318 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:47,640 Speaker 1: He is Matt Williams and I'm Dale Lally. You're listening 319 00:16:47,680 --> 00:16:50,520 Speaker 1: to the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna 320 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 1: take a break. We'll be back right after this. Your 321 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:59,280 Speaker 1: tunes about drive home of the Black and Goal Steelers 322 00:16:59,400 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Nation Ring No m H, welcome back. I'm Dale Elly 323 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 1: here with Matt Linson. You're listening to the Drive here 324 00:17:51,800 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. SNR coverage the Steelers Playoffs is 325 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,200 Speaker 1: presented by fed X and Ford and Matt. Let's talk 326 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:04,840 Speaker 1: about you Mason Rudolph in his performance from yesterday, because 327 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: there were a lot of people that were down on 328 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:11,720 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph and as I played, as I pointed out 329 00:18:12,240 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: in my preview of this game. You know, prior to 330 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 1: this the game in Cleveland last year, Mason Rudolph had 331 00:18:22,080 --> 00:18:25,400 Speaker 1: eleven touchdown passes and four interceptions. Going into that game. 332 00:18:25,720 --> 00:18:28,680 Speaker 1: He had a ninety three passer rating going into that game. 333 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:32,199 Speaker 1: And then suddenly after those two starts to one in 334 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,800 Speaker 1: Cleveland and then the one the next week in Cincinnati, 335 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:39,840 Speaker 1: when he gets benched, the narrative on his season changed, 336 00:18:40,960 --> 00:18:44,200 Speaker 1: like suddenly, he stunk all season long. He was awful. 337 00:18:44,560 --> 00:18:48,720 Speaker 1: He's not an NFL quarterback yetas two, they should sign 338 00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: Marioda or Winston or you know, these guys don't go. 339 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean they cost money. They cost money. On um. Yeah, um, 340 00:18:57,160 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 1: he had a forty seven yard completion. He had a 341 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 1: pair of forty one yard completions, one of which came 342 00:19:02,440 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: on a third and eleven. UM. He had the second 343 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,840 Speaker 1: one came on a third and seven. Um. He converted 344 00:19:09,880 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 1: a fourth and ten play for a twenty eight yard 345 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,280 Speaker 1: touchdown pass. He had a third nine that he can 346 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:19,280 Speaker 1: converted with a twenty six yard pass. He had a Yeah, 347 00:19:19,320 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: he had a third and ten that he converted. I 348 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:24,320 Speaker 1: mean he he was converted. They were eight of seventeen 349 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: on third downs in that game, and some long ones 350 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:32,159 Speaker 1: they were. He was attacking down the field. Um. You 351 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:36,159 Speaker 1: know he his his average. Uh if you look at 352 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:41,000 Speaker 1: the next gen stats, um, his average intended air yards 353 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: yesterday was eleven yards per pass attempt. That was better 354 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:47,440 Speaker 1: than Josh Allen had. Josh Allen was slinging it all 355 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: over the field against the Dolphins. Um, I thought he 356 00:19:51,440 --> 00:19:53,600 Speaker 1: was really good. I think it was really good. I mean, 357 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,959 Speaker 1: that was better than what I was hoping, you know, 358 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: I mean, I hope he looked fine and you know, 359 00:19:59,240 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: maybe he can be a long turned backup. I thought 360 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 1: he exceeded those expectations. He had some low moments, and 361 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 1: he missed a couple throws here and there. Most quarterbacks 362 00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: due through the course of sixty minutes, you know, that's 363 00:20:08,640 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: the way it happened. And he started, you know, he 364 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,520 Speaker 1: started a little slowly, which again it was to be expected. 365 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: He hadn't seen any playing time, meaningful playing time and 366 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:19,560 Speaker 1: over a year. No, that's true. The offense did spider 367 00:20:19,600 --> 00:20:21,639 Speaker 1: a little beginning. I thought the ball came out of 368 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,920 Speaker 1: his hands well. I thought he throws through with good touch. 369 00:20:23,960 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: I thought he moved around the pocket, was decisive, sive, 370 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:30,440 Speaker 1: used his feet pretty well, kept his his his uh 371 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 1: eyes down field, and wasn't afraid to take a hit 372 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 1: or crumbling in the pocket. And it really looked like 373 00:20:36,160 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: he belonged. I mean, I'm not suggesting he's the next 374 00:20:39,480 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberg or anything like that. I mean that bar 375 00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:45,400 Speaker 1: he's the third round pick, you know, I mean he's 376 00:20:45,560 --> 00:20:49,239 Speaker 1: he's at least again the question we were asked all 377 00:20:49,640 --> 00:20:51,480 Speaker 1: all last off season, where the Steelers gonna go get 378 00:20:51,600 --> 00:20:54,680 Speaker 1: a veteran backup that even lasted lingered into the start 379 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 1: of the season. Steelers need to go get a veteran backup. 380 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: Stop it, stop it right, that should end that. I mean, Frankly, 381 00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: I'm not sure that he's worse. It's just one game. 382 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: And I'm not saying he's even worse than Dalton or 383 00:21:08,280 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: Winston or the guy who came the guy who came 384 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: to mind for me? Is is he worse than Jared Goff? 385 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:20,520 Speaker 1: I mean, the the inevenness, the uneven performances did you 386 00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:22,520 Speaker 1: get out of Jared Goff? If you protect him? Jared 387 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: Goff's great if you don't protect him. Frankly, the guy 388 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 1: they're playing is kind of like that too. Yeah, I 389 00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: mean tendencies too. And you know, so I think that 390 00:21:30,320 --> 00:21:32,160 Speaker 1: you know, when when I wrote in the off season 391 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,920 Speaker 1: that Mason Rudolph is a top ten backup or top 392 00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,280 Speaker 1: tennis backup in the league, and I got I got 393 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,920 Speaker 1: crushed you're out of your mind. What are you talking about? 394 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:44,320 Speaker 1: He's he's the worst? Is he? No? I mean I 395 00:21:44,359 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 1: think he's in the top half for sure. And that's 396 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 1: always a hard exercise because who's the backup in Miami? 397 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,280 Speaker 1: You know some of the ones that are you draft 398 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: a guy high or whatever, But either way you look 399 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,879 Speaker 1: at I mean, I think Chase Daniels making what like 400 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: ten million a year or eight million a year, has 401 00:22:00,359 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 1: forever and he sees the field for five snaps a year. 402 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: I think Rudolph can have every bit of that type 403 00:22:05,720 --> 00:22:08,639 Speaker 1: of career and be a long term backup wherever he 404 00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: ends up playing and get you out of games and 405 00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,240 Speaker 1: start for a month and not kill you. And there's 406 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: not many of them in the world. Chad Henny started 407 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: a game yesterday for the Kansas City Chiefs. Recruited him. Um, 408 00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:23,719 Speaker 1: Chad Henny's a guy that you know people mentioned, well 409 00:22:23,720 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: they actually get what about Chad Henny or this guy 410 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:31,760 Speaker 1: or that guy passing yards and two touchdowns? The Matt 411 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,199 Speaker 1: Moore's of the world, that's what you mean. You know 412 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: you talked about Andy Dalton two three yards and through 413 00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:40,000 Speaker 1: no touchdowns an interception. You know when he when he 414 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,680 Speaker 1: got Colorge Steelers should go signed Andy Dalton. Do you 415 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:46,040 Speaker 1: know how much it costs? Though? Too started? You know, 416 00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:48,879 Speaker 1: I mean both those guys in San Francis. He's the 417 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:54,760 Speaker 1: guys who started games yesterday. Chris the Watch Cardinals versus Rams. Yeah, 418 00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: I mean you know when those two weren't When it 419 00:22:56,920 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 1: was this time last week and it looked like, okay, 420 00:22:59,359 --> 00:23:02,639 Speaker 1: goff Broke was Ingramatra, who's gonna play? And Kyler's getting 421 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:05,439 Speaker 1: over a really he got banged up. I'm sitting there 422 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 1: thinking who are the Cardinals and Rams backups? Like? Who 423 00:23:07,800 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 1: we even gonna see John Woolford? You know that's what 424 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: you saw. Is good for him, you know, right? But 425 00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: was he better than Mason Rudolph yesterday? I don't think so. 426 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 1: The Rams would have rather played the Rudolph I believe so. Yeah, 427 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,840 Speaker 1: wolf for completed fifty seven percent of no touchdowns in 428 00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:27,160 Speaker 1: an interception. But I think the biggest thing isn't necessarily 429 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 1: it is a good conversation to compare them to all 430 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 1: the thirty two backups, because frankly, folks, there's only ten 431 00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:35,360 Speaker 1: good ones. Really, I mean, there's like forty good quarterbacks 432 00:23:35,359 --> 00:23:37,560 Speaker 1: in the world right now, and most teams haven't even 433 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:40,840 Speaker 1: know there's forty. I don't know if there's forty stretch. Yeah, 434 00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: there might be thirty five there, and five of them 435 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,919 Speaker 1: are in college or retiring right, and six of them 436 00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 1: are starting every week, you know. I mean Mike Glennon 437 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:53,800 Speaker 1: started this week. Some guys that are Brandon Allen started, 438 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,960 Speaker 1: you know, and they threw forty yards. Yeah. Um, what 439 00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,840 Speaker 1: was gonna say? As opposed to comparing him to the 440 00:24:00,000 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: their backups? I think the best thing to think about 441 00:24:03,320 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 1: with Rudolph is he's getting better. That's the thing is, 442 00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:10,359 Speaker 1: you are allowed to get better. And I'll I can 443 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 1: tell you this because I've seen it. Uh. The kid 444 00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: works hard. He's constantly throwing the football, He's constantly working 445 00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,320 Speaker 1: with the receivers on the side. He he goes out 446 00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: and gets his own quarterback coach in the off season 447 00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: to work on his footwork and things of that nature. 448 00:24:27,040 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: He's not sitting around on the couch all year long. 449 00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: One on the backup and I'm happy with that exactly. 450 00:24:31,800 --> 00:24:34,840 Speaker 1: And his feet it showed, and actually he threw the 451 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:36,320 Speaker 1: ball better and I've ever seen him throw it too, 452 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 1: I mean just and he's never been a bad passer. Yeah, 453 00:24:38,920 --> 00:24:41,640 Speaker 1: you saw the deep when he came out of Oklahoma State. 454 00:24:42,600 --> 00:24:44,359 Speaker 1: You know, the thing on him was, well, he doesn't 455 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: have a super strong arm, but he can. He has 456 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: a nice touch on the deep ball, and we saw 457 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 1: that drop it in. But it world needs to be 458 00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: where Ben hasn't had that touch on the rate ball. 459 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure Ben could throw the ball harder 460 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,879 Speaker 1: than Rudolph still, but I worry that he's lost some 461 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,800 Speaker 1: of that touch and you know, being able to drop 462 00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:03,280 Speaker 1: it where it needs to be and the control of 463 00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,440 Speaker 1: the football at the right. Now as we watch a 464 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: highlight here where he slides to his left, I mean, 465 00:25:08,160 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: he gave his kind of stuff with him, gave his 466 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:11,840 Speaker 1: guy a shot on it, you know, gave James Washington 467 00:25:12,040 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 1: a chance to catch a jump ball in the end 468 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: zone one on one. And He'll never be Lamar Jackson, 469 00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: but I've given him a hard time over the last 470 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:22,439 Speaker 1: couple of years of being a little statuesque in the pocket. 471 00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,679 Speaker 1: He's he looked better than that yesterday. He could move, 472 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:27,920 Speaker 1: He ran away from pressure a couple of times, and 473 00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,000 Speaker 1: then to your point, kept his eyes down field and 474 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: reset him, reset himself, and then through ye and was 475 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 1: tough and wasn't afraid to take a hit. And I 476 00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: mean is he perfect, No, but he's getting better and 477 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,240 Speaker 1: there's tools there to work with. I mean again, I mean, 478 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:46,440 Speaker 1: if he gets to play that whole Jets game last year, 479 00:25:46,560 --> 00:25:49,000 Speaker 1: maybe we thought of him this way every step of 480 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 1: the way in the off season. We don't have to 481 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,240 Speaker 1: listen to that. But I mean, he's the backup, folks. 482 00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 1: I mean, he's going to go get another one. They're 483 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:58,440 Speaker 1: they're not. He's under contract at a at a very 484 00:25:58,520 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 1: reasonable price next year. Um, then it becomes a question. 485 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:04,240 Speaker 1: Then it becomes a question do you resign him. If 486 00:26:04,280 --> 00:26:07,760 Speaker 1: you do resign him, what are you signing him to? Uh, 487 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: you know, do you feel like you know the number one? 488 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: Did you? Did you draft one this year and allow 489 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,520 Speaker 1: him to come in and compete with Rudolph next year 490 00:26:16,600 --> 00:26:19,480 Speaker 1: for for the for the for the number two job 491 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 1: and then the number one job. I mean, what's the 492 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: what's the long term prognosis? Will be interesting, But he 493 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: is no worse and better than a lot of the 494 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:34,920 Speaker 1: guys that they ran out there throughout the eighties, right Yeah, 495 00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:40,720 Speaker 1: that's I mean David Woodleys and guys of that nature. 496 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:45,480 Speaker 1: Pre Ben. I mean there was a pretty stretch between 497 00:26:45,520 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: Neo and Ben. I mean I saw some things there 498 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: yesterday that you know, he throws a better deep ball 499 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:53,200 Speaker 1: than Neil o'donald ever did. Yeah, a little rusty on 500 00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:55,159 Speaker 1: my o'donnald table. I mean, I saw a lot of 501 00:26:55,240 --> 00:26:58,880 Speaker 1: Neil o'donnald. He took him to a super Bowl again. 502 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: I think you can win with Meson Rudolph if you 503 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:04,560 Speaker 1: surround him with He's not to to use your analogy, 504 00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: He's not the the engine on the on the train, 505 00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: but you could win with him, I think. I mean 506 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: that might. Yeah, I think so. I mean I feel 507 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:18,119 Speaker 1: like I'm getting a given him a little too much 508 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,679 Speaker 1: credit now because it was I hear you. I mean 509 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 1: it's one game. Yeah, it's one game. But I'm I'm 510 00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: looking back, you know pre uh, you know pre Cleveland. 511 00:27:28,040 --> 00:27:31,200 Speaker 1: Mason Rudolph last year showed flashes here and there, and 512 00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,880 Speaker 1: again was was was winning games. I think they were 513 00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:37,359 Speaker 1: four and two with with Mason Rudolph starting, and one 514 00:27:37,400 --> 00:27:40,000 Speaker 1: of those was his first start against San Francisco forty Niners, 515 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,040 Speaker 1: who were pretty damn good football. They went to the 516 00:27:42,040 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Defense and if and if James Conner is 517 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: a fumble late in that game, they win it, and 518 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:51,680 Speaker 1: I'm convinced right now two thousand twenty Mason is much 519 00:27:51,720 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 1: better than that. Mason. Yeah, you know. I mean again, 520 00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 1: he's put in a lot of work, all that valuable 521 00:27:56,400 --> 00:27:58,960 Speaker 1: time he got last year, understanding the speed of the 522 00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:00,640 Speaker 1: game at this level when you're not in the Big 523 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 1: twelve anymore. Like I mean, this is really hypothetical, but 524 00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:08,800 Speaker 1: if if the if Ben fell last year and you 525 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:12,320 Speaker 1: had this version of Rudolph for every snap since then, 526 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: no Duck involved, I bet they win ten games. Yeah, 527 00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,440 Speaker 1: I agree, you know what I mean, Because to your 528 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: point about seeing guys college open and those kind of things, 529 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,680 Speaker 1: I thought he threaded the needle on some some type balls, 530 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: pulled the trigger on him, and threw the ball into 531 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:29,680 Speaker 1: some tight situations and put it on the receivers um. 532 00:28:30,000 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 1: You know, they had a couple of early drops. Otherwise 533 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,320 Speaker 1: he'd you know, yeah, it was coping like whoa nice throw. Yeah, 534 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:37,920 Speaker 1: I didn't know that that would have come out a 535 00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 1: year ago. Probably wouldn't it, Probably wouldn't have. Yeah, he 536 00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:41,800 Speaker 1: probably would have held the football and not thrown it. 537 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: So I think I think there was some progress there, 538 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: and you can see why the Steelers um have consistently said, look, 539 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:52,720 Speaker 1: we Mason's are number two. You know, he's the back 540 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: of the ptation or right. And it's not just I 541 00:28:55,720 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: mean the Rams might have been saying that about their 542 00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: guy or whatever too, I'm sure they were, but yeah, 543 00:29:00,800 --> 00:29:04,800 Speaker 1: yours meant Yeah. I think the Dobbs conversation these that 544 00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840 Speaker 1: he had too, because I think there's a nice wrinkle. 545 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:11,400 Speaker 1: I think he has a role. See I was asked 546 00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 1: that and and somebody said, well can't they can't they 547 00:29:13,560 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: use Dobbs moving forward? What Rootolphs your number two? Yes, 548 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: and he has to be the number two on game 549 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: days because no, you know, especially in the playoffs, you're 550 00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 1: not gonna you're not gonna turn things over to two 551 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: Dobbs in the playoffs. Of course, have to be active 552 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:31,280 Speaker 1: on game days. But here's the problem. If you make 553 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: then Dabbs active on game days, now you've now you've 554 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: taken another special teams guy out of the equation. But 555 00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: you're killing when when New Orleans does that. Taysom Hill 556 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:45,720 Speaker 1: plays special teams. He's the he's the pump protector and 557 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 1: he can do some of those things for you. You're 558 00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 1: not gonna do that with Dobbs, and Dobbs are gonna 559 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:52,480 Speaker 1: play near his make snaps as Hill does on. So 560 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:58,000 Speaker 1: you take your three specialists, three backup offensive lineman. Yeah, 561 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 1: that's six, three back up defensive lineman. Now you're up 562 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:06,200 Speaker 1: to nine players. Um, now you're your linebackers of course 563 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: are all guys who play special teams. And you're sitting 564 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:12,760 Speaker 1: in your corners, but your wide receivers. So take another 565 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean, do you want to sit Ray Ray with 566 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: Cloud for Dobbs. You know you're not setting them down 567 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 1: there to run down on their under kicks or something 568 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,080 Speaker 1: like that. Um, so let's say you know you've got okay, 569 00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: you can use Claypool in that regard, but you can't 570 00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: use You're not using Juju Smith Schuster to run down 571 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:31,480 Speaker 1: under kicks. You're using Deante Johnson or George. Um, you 572 00:30:31,560 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: know the numbers start getting thin. Yeah, and then you're 573 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:36,440 Speaker 1: and then you get issues unless you want to have 574 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,640 Speaker 1: an offensive lineman or a defensive lineman running down the 575 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 1: cover kicks. Monta kind of does that, but that's not ideal. 576 00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: That's not ideal. Right now, you're been right in terms 577 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: of putting eleven quality bodies out there on kicks, and 578 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,640 Speaker 1: especially you get a couple of guys hurt, and people 579 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: will get hurt. And right, um, you know a lot 580 00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: of defensive packages where you want six defensive backs and 581 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 1: what if one's out, you need that seventh guy to 582 00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,000 Speaker 1: step up and all these things, you know, And I 583 00:31:01,080 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 1: think it's worth kind of talking about just because I 584 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 1: think it was nice to put it on tape, because 585 00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: I guarantee you the Browns. The Browns are are preparing 586 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: for it this year. This week they're going to see it, 587 00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:13,479 Speaker 1: or at least have to prepare so at least they 588 00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:16,360 Speaker 1: spend fifteen minutes during practice this week. Okay, if they 589 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: bring Dabbs into the game and they run this outside 590 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: zone options and stuff, again, here's what we gotta do. 591 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,400 Speaker 1: But then they're not protecting against Ben football. And you know, 592 00:31:24,600 --> 00:31:26,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if Ben would object, you know, like 593 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: Breeze doesn't. I'm not taking him off the field for 594 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: you know, it's it's third and four and you bring 595 00:31:32,440 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: Dobbs into the game, well, you know he's probably gonna 596 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: run the football. Why don't just leave Roethlisberger in the 597 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:40,640 Speaker 1: game and go from you know, my only reservations against 598 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: what you just said there is they've been so bad 599 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: in short yardage third and fourth and one. That's the 600 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:48,960 Speaker 1: only time I'd ever tried them out there. But here's 601 00:31:49,000 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 1: the thing, they're bad. They're bad in those in those 602 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:56,640 Speaker 1: short yardage situations with Benny Snell were Anthony McFarland. If 603 00:31:56,720 --> 00:32:00,440 Speaker 1: James James Conner is running those plays, I'm perfectly fine 604 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,360 Speaker 1: with James Conner running those places as opposed to gadgetting 605 00:32:03,400 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: it up and having Ben take the snap. I trust 606 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:09,120 Speaker 1: the Connor and Connor will get the first down on 607 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,920 Speaker 1: third and one. Yeah, there's a lot of things I 608 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 1: want to mention that. I mean, I think it's so 609 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: clear and I'm on a big James Connor fan, but 610 00:32:16,920 --> 00:32:19,360 Speaker 1: he's so much better. He's he's there, Yeah, he's surely 611 00:32:19,400 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: they're better guy. Those other guys are. They need to 612 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: back this offseason. There's no doubt about it. Yeah. And 613 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:27,200 Speaker 1: then you know, I was also thinking about roster space 614 00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: and game day. One of the reasons they ran the 615 00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 1: ball better. And this isn't a knock on Ebron Raiders 616 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,480 Speaker 1: out there blocking, you know what I mean, Like, it's 617 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 1: nice that you're playing just Vince McDonald out there blocking, 618 00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:40,080 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I wouldn't mind having Raidar active 619 00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: on game day and have three tight ends dressed because 620 00:32:42,440 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: he will help on specialties. But then you're short somewhere else, 621 00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:48,440 Speaker 1: you know, And that's the Somebody asked me about that 622 00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 1: today on my chat and they said, well, what about 623 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:55,240 Speaker 1: you know, instead of dressing Samuel's dressing Raider. I'm fine 624 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,600 Speaker 1: sitting Samuel's out to be honest. But here's the thing. 625 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 1: What if Connor gets hurt right now? You now, who's 626 00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 1: your receiver at all the right nobody could trust to 627 00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:06,120 Speaker 1: pick up? And yeah, you want to go to your 628 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: hurry up package, and then who's your back is down 629 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: with two minutes in the in the left in the game, 630 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,360 Speaker 1: and you don't trust, You don't want to snell out there. 631 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,000 Speaker 1: You don't trust. That's why you need That's why you 632 00:33:16,080 --> 00:33:20,480 Speaker 1: need a back. We keep going back to this. Yeah, 633 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,360 Speaker 1: we need to find somebody at that position. And this 634 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: way too early to talk about it, but watching these 635 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,600 Speaker 1: these college games, I would consider a na J. Harris 636 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:31,120 Speaker 1: or an a T N in the first round. Maybe, 637 00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:33,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I need to do a lot more draft research, 638 00:33:33,520 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: but this team with somebody like that on it. I mean, 639 00:33:36,600 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: it goes back to our our trub conversation. You know, 640 00:33:40,160 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: there were a couple of times yesterday where the Steelers 641 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: had him in the backfield, stopped and he ends up 642 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:47,959 Speaker 1: turning into a you know, a five yard game out 643 00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: of nothing positive play. And Connor does that way more 644 00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: than the other two on the team. But his his 645 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:57,040 Speaker 1: turning it into a positive play. Okay, I'm I'm I'm 646 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 1: stopped in the backfield and I get two yards or 647 00:33:59,480 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 1: one yard, not seven or it's it's a it's really 648 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: well blocked and he still gets seven where Trub's still 649 00:34:06,120 --> 00:34:09,080 Speaker 1: run Trump's running a day like Yeah, I mean that's 650 00:34:09,120 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: what they just don't have anybody with that top gear 651 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,080 Speaker 1: with a lot of juice. Yeah, but he's way better 652 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,200 Speaker 1: than the other two. It's not even times you forget 653 00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,040 Speaker 1: about it when he's out three or four games and 654 00:34:18,200 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: you realize how bad that position is. But yeah, they 655 00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:24,560 Speaker 1: need a back yea um. But again getting back to 656 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: our initial conversation, h you know, I don't know Mason 657 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 1: Rudolph to me is he's not your obvious air apparent 658 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: to Ben Roethlisberger, but his hat is in the ring. 659 00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I think so. And and you're gonna look, 660 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:41,160 Speaker 1: you're gonna look to you know, he at least gives 661 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,040 Speaker 1: you a bridge maybe if it comes into that situation 662 00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,000 Speaker 1: where Okay, you're not in a position this year to 663 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 1: get a guy, to get somebody that you really like. Okay, 664 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,120 Speaker 1: well you know we we have Mason here. Then you 665 00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,800 Speaker 1: bring in the veteran back up. If if Roethlisberger retires, 666 00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:57,120 Speaker 1: he could be your Fitzpatrick. Yeah, you know what I mean. 667 00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:01,960 Speaker 1: And and see when the guy's ready or whatever. Yeah, 668 00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: and there's value to that. And you know, let's assume 669 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: Ben comes back. I would imagine there's not a new 670 00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:14,280 Speaker 1: quarterback on the roster. It camp, I would probably draft 671 00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:18,200 Speaker 1: another one, just just again, throw throw another hat into 672 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: the ring. Fourth round type. Yeah, it wouldn't, wouldn't. Doesn't 673 00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: have to be a first round guy. But I would, 674 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: you know, just keep because you gotta keep trying every 675 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: couple of years. Right now, you've now you've got something. 676 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:29,840 Speaker 1: If you get to Dak Prescott in the in the 677 00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: fourth round. Russell Wilson, Yeah right, I mean, and all 678 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,560 Speaker 1: your problems are solved forever and you have no money 679 00:35:34,600 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: invested in I mean, that's the there's a theory you 680 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,280 Speaker 1: should draft one every year, you know, like the Packers 681 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: used to do that, even on date Brett Farve, you know, 682 00:35:41,160 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 1: I mean, if he's if he's good enough to push 683 00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,319 Speaker 1: Dobs off the roster, Okay, yeah, you can trade Dobs 684 00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:49,879 Speaker 1: or six round pick again or something, pick it back up. Yeah, yeah, 685 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 1: I guess I wouldn't object to that. I mean, I 686 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:54,960 Speaker 1: don't think this is this the offseason you look for 687 00:35:55,040 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: the air apparent unless you have a high grade or 688 00:35:57,080 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: somebody and they fall, you know, Aaron Rodgers falls in 689 00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 1: your lad and you think, yeah, if you love Mac, 690 00:36:02,200 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: what's his face from the back, Jones or whoever it is, 691 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:07,399 Speaker 1: and he's there, you take them. Sure, you never turn 692 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,440 Speaker 1: your nose up at him. But I would think this 693 00:36:09,520 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: will be the quarterback room next year and then the 694 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:15,239 Speaker 1: year after. Maybe it is a first round pick who's 695 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: not quite ready and Rudolph starts Game one and I'm like, 696 00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 1: I'm comfortable with that strategy, or maybe a trade for 697 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 1: somebody to add someone who knows. I mean, but it's 698 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: a lot of time beforet between now and then. Yeah. Absolutely, 699 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: But r S and our coverage of the Steelers Playoffs 700 00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: is presented by fed X and Ford. He is Matt Williamson. 701 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:33,840 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lally. You're listening to the drive here on 702 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:37,120 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We're gonna take a break. We'll be 703 00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:44,200 Speaker 1: back right after this. Your tunes about drive home of 704 00:36:44,280 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 1: the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio r s NN 705 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,440 Speaker 1: coverage of Steelers Playoffs. He is presented by FedEx and 706 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:14,560 Speaker 1: Ford and Matt, I want to play a little game 707 00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 1: here with you. I'm gonna roll through some roll through 708 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 1: some names here on the Steelers roster, and I want 709 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,560 Speaker 1: you to grade their season, the whole season, this to 710 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 1: this point. And we'll start with the obvious. That would 711 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,279 Speaker 1: be Ben Roethlisberger coming back off the injury was a 712 00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:30,600 Speaker 1: big question. Could he get through all sixteen games? Well, 713 00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: obviously he didn't play the last one, but he did 714 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: play a full season, thirty three touchdown passes, ten interceptions, 715 00:37:37,680 --> 00:37:41,560 Speaker 1: hundred passing yards. How would you grade his season? He's 716 00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:45,080 Speaker 1: not an easy one because there was a stretch. I 717 00:37:45,160 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: thought that if we if we're talking about this is 718 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,759 Speaker 1: like in week ten, we're gonna say an a right 719 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: exactly like I really want to be sixteen games worth here, 720 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 1: not just what you do for me lately, and it 721 00:37:57,080 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: would it be much different if it was two weeks ago, 722 00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:00,880 Speaker 1: if we didn't see that last you know, obviously that 723 00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,160 Speaker 1: last half against the Colts was going to carry a 724 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,719 Speaker 1: lot of weight. That's the last time he saw him play. 725 00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 1: Three record, three record, he played the whole year. Where 726 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 1: would they be without him, you know, I mean that's 727 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: we saw that the year before. It would not have 728 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 1: been eight and eight this year without him. I don't think, 729 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:16,800 Speaker 1: you know, I mean, I'm givena be you know. I 730 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: still I'm not gonna say there's limitations, but there are concerns, 731 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, with his style? Yeah, I agree? Um, how 732 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:29,320 Speaker 1: about Juju Smith Schuster nine seven catches eighty one yards, 733 00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:32,760 Speaker 1: nine touchdown catches. The ninety seven catches and nine touchdowns 734 00:38:32,760 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 1: are both top ten in the league. Yeah right. I 735 00:38:34,680 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: Mean it actually shocked me yesterday when they said boys 736 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,200 Speaker 1: three catches away from Hunters, Like wow. But I guess 737 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:42,919 Speaker 1: that adds up. He's been there every step of the way. 738 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: He's been a very good player. I don't think he's 739 00:38:46,160 --> 00:38:47,640 Speaker 1: a great player, you know. I mean, there's so many 740 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: good receivers around the league, and I don't think he's 741 00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,600 Speaker 1: in that year. I think he's a two. I think 742 00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:54,879 Speaker 1: he's a but had probably a better year than any 743 00:38:54,880 --> 00:38:57,040 Speaker 1: of us. Give him credit for he did the job 744 00:38:57,160 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: and played hard. B plus. Okay, Deante Johnson eight catches, 745 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,880 Speaker 1: eighty three yards, seven touchdowns. I'm gonna go a minus 746 00:39:06,280 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: because of the drops. I think he's their best receiver. 747 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:10,960 Speaker 1: I think he's their number one. They treat him that way, 748 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: best route runner, extremely bright future. I mean he missed 749 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:20,359 Speaker 1: about two and a half games. I mean, how many 750 00:39:20,400 --> 00:39:21,680 Speaker 1: times was he in and out of the line up 751 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,440 Speaker 1: during that stretch? To or questionable? And overcame those things? 752 00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:28,520 Speaker 1: The drops you can't ignore. You'll give me an a minus. Okay, 753 00:39:29,280 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: how about the Chase Claypool with sixty two catches for 754 00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:36,440 Speaker 1: eight hundred seventy three yards, nine touchdowns, eleven touchdowns overall. 755 00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:38,400 Speaker 1: I guess I'm not sure what scale I'm grading on 756 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,120 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna give him an A even though I 757 00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,560 Speaker 1: think Deante is the best receiver on the team, because 758 00:39:43,600 --> 00:39:46,720 Speaker 1: he's a rookie and he's a difference makers a rookie, 759 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:50,280 Speaker 1: he's a massive difference maker. He's a great downfield threat, 760 00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 1: he can block a little. I mean, he's got massive upside, 761 00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,879 Speaker 1: and I think he kind of have to draw grade 762 00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,920 Speaker 1: rookies a little differently. I mean, he came in and 763 00:39:59,000 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: made a huge impact. Then it's still doing it, and 764 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,799 Speaker 1: yesterday made that even better. I mean, what more could 765 00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,680 Speaker 1: you ask for when you took him in the second round. Yeah, 766 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,800 Speaker 1: this was a tougher one. Eric Ebron fifty six catches, 767 00:40:09,840 --> 00:40:14,600 Speaker 1: five fifty eight yards, five touchdowns. Couldn't block you were me, Yeah, 768 00:40:14,640 --> 00:40:17,239 Speaker 1: I can't block himself, but that's not but that's what 769 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,280 Speaker 1: he is. Yeah. I remember when we were talking about 770 00:40:20,360 --> 00:40:22,960 Speaker 1: what what are your expectations for Ebron coming into the season, 771 00:40:22,960 --> 00:40:24,560 Speaker 1: I thought, well, if he gets to fifty catches who 772 00:40:24,600 --> 00:40:26,920 Speaker 1: have had a pretty good season, Well he got the 773 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:29,959 Speaker 1: fifty six and he does good things. I mean he's 774 00:40:30,800 --> 00:40:32,719 Speaker 1: a matchup problem, you know, you get him on a 775 00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: linebacker another thing, but Ben, he's great about finding the 776 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 1: one on ones and the matchup. He's better than that 777 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,840 Speaker 1: than ever. And he Brown is a big part of that. 778 00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you get him on Vince Williams Avery Williamson type, 779 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 1: he's gonna end up with eight catches for ninety yards 780 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:47,799 Speaker 1: that day and you're gonna win, you know what I mean? 781 00:40:48,520 --> 00:40:52,200 Speaker 1: But he almost If he had w R next to 782 00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:54,040 Speaker 1: his name, it would just make a lot more sense. 783 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,279 Speaker 1: Is there any Is there really any difference between him 784 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:01,480 Speaker 1: and Chase Claypool where they lie up, but in terms 785 00:41:01,560 --> 00:41:03,680 Speaker 1: of they walked in the room and what they do 786 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: and how well they block, not much different. No, Yeah, 787 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: I hear you. I'm gonna go be minus though this 788 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,120 Speaker 1: is he's a drop too as well, but that's who 789 00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:17,959 Speaker 1: he is. This is a tougher one. James Conner seven 790 00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 1: one rushing yards um. He had six rushing touchdowns. He 791 00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000 Speaker 1: also had thirty five catches for two fifteen yards. Yeah, 792 00:41:26,400 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: and we just said last segment, he's so much better 793 00:41:28,400 --> 00:41:30,680 Speaker 1: than the other one guys. Yeah, you definitely won him 794 00:41:30,680 --> 00:41:32,719 Speaker 1: on the field as opposed to the other guys. He 795 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: just can't stay healthy. Yeah, the reliability you can't. And 796 00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,040 Speaker 1: to me, the biggest issue with the health stuff is 797 00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: are the times where you play him and he gets 798 00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,400 Speaker 1: hurt in the first quarter and then he's not available 799 00:41:45,440 --> 00:41:48,280 Speaker 1: the rest of the game. Yeah, that to me is like, Okay, 800 00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:51,840 Speaker 1: guys are gonna get hurt. It happens. Yeah, I mean 801 00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,040 Speaker 1: it's just that there's probably ten games in his career 802 00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,080 Speaker 1: where he starts the game and then he's leaving in 803 00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,879 Speaker 1: midway through the first quarter. In the second place, at 804 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,320 Speaker 1: some point in the game, he's not available, and that 805 00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:05,040 Speaker 1: just happens to you, right, Yeah, there's a lot of that. 806 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: And I mean even if he I mean, he's never 807 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:10,839 Speaker 1: gonna be an a I mean, we can easily name 808 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:14,080 Speaker 1: fifteen backs that are better than him, but he They 809 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 1: are much better when he's out there and he's at 810 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:19,319 Speaker 1: his best. And I think that's where he's at right now. 811 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: But I mean, would you just run into the wheels 812 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,879 Speaker 1: come off in the playoffs in terms of snap count, Yeah, 813 00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 1: because there's no tomorrow, there's no tomorrow. You're gonna resign them. 814 00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:32,080 Speaker 1: I mean, who cares about, you know, saving them for anything. 815 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: I think you use them up like crazy these these 816 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:36,759 Speaker 1: next couple of weeks. I mean, yeah, I know you 817 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: can't afford to lose him, but if you if you 818 00:42:40,719 --> 00:42:43,520 Speaker 1: don't have him, you can't win, Like if the other 819 00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:45,080 Speaker 1: guys are on the field. I don't think that's a 820 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:46,959 Speaker 1: that's that's not a positive. I mean, if you're winning 821 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 1: by fourteen and the fourth quarter, that's definitely closer. But 822 00:42:50,960 --> 00:42:53,120 Speaker 1: if it's a three point game, in the fourth quarter. 823 00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:55,520 Speaker 1: He's out there every snap. Yeah, I agree, And he's 824 00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: not left Bell I mean him by any stretch. But 825 00:42:57,840 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 1: he's the best they got. I mean he's averaging four 826 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:02,839 Speaker 1: point three yards of carry and Benny Stuffs is three 827 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:06,880 Speaker 1: point three yards of carry. It's a full yard differences. 828 00:43:06,920 --> 00:43:08,880 Speaker 1: It was that strong. And it doesn't get inflated with 829 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,399 Speaker 1: those Chubb ad yard runs. You know, they can really 830 00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:13,719 Speaker 1: inflate a yard for carry at time. I mean, he 831 00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:15,719 Speaker 1: can break off some chunk runs, but he's not taking 832 00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: it out. Yeah, real quick through some of the defensive 833 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,239 Speaker 1: guys here. Makeing Fitzpatrick a okay. How about Vince Williams. 834 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:27,480 Speaker 1: I think he's a better coverage player than he used 835 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:31,080 Speaker 1: to be. Wasn't his finest moment. I thought he kind 836 00:43:31,080 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: of looks slow and it was coming back. I don't 837 00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:38,960 Speaker 1: know how well he know, but especially if Bush is 838 00:43:39,000 --> 00:43:40,719 Speaker 1: out there, I think he's great to be a lot 839 00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:44,719 Speaker 1: different than if he's the every times different things to 840 00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:46,640 Speaker 1: no fault of his own, but if he's playing next 841 00:43:46,680 --> 00:43:50,680 Speaker 1: to Bush, you're fine there. If not better than fine, Yeah, 842 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:54,719 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna bother with t J. Watt Um. How 843 00:43:54,719 --> 00:43:57,880 Speaker 1: about let's look at some other guys here, it's Roll Edmonds. 844 00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,560 Speaker 1: Do you think him being inactive was kind of a 845 00:44:02,600 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 1: statement to Steeler fans that, hey, this guy is really good. No, 846 00:44:07,360 --> 00:44:09,120 Speaker 1: so yeah, I mean if it would if it had 847 00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,480 Speaker 1: been a playoff game, he's probably he's out there. Yeah. 848 00:44:11,480 --> 00:44:13,480 Speaker 1: I never misses any time, but there's no reason to 849 00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: play him in that game when he's you know, let 850 00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,680 Speaker 1: him get healed up. B plus. Yeah, I think he's 851 00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:19,920 Speaker 1: been pretty solid. Yeah, I mean I don't see many mistakes. 852 00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,319 Speaker 1: Like his name doesn't get mentioned a lot. But that's 853 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,480 Speaker 1: a compliment as well as a little bit of a detriment, 854 00:44:24,600 --> 00:44:27,080 Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, how about the corners Joe Hayden and 855 00:44:27,200 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 1: Stephen Nelson? Will will group them together. I thought Nelson 856 00:44:30,719 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 1: was better last year. I thought he got better as 857 00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:36,840 Speaker 1: the season went on this year. Agreed. I think Aiden's 858 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:39,800 Speaker 1: pretty much a constant. You know. I keep wondering when's 859 00:44:39,840 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: he gonna lose a step, when's he gonna start getting 860 00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,719 Speaker 1: be deep? It really isn't happening. Yeah, I mean he's 861 00:44:44,760 --> 00:44:47,279 Speaker 1: smart enough to know if read receivers the routes and 862 00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:51,759 Speaker 1: all that kind of stuff. Um, how about nice, I mean, 863 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,359 Speaker 1: if Sutton's a good player. Sutton Hilton has been been 864 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:56,879 Speaker 1: good all year, but that's could be the lemon the offseason. Yeah, 865 00:44:56,960 --> 00:45:00,280 Speaker 1: no kidding, let's look at the let's let's we'll hey 866 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:04,919 Speaker 1: Heyward and two it together as well, Louis lou m m, yeah, 867 00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 1: I mean that that, I mean pretty consistent. I wish 868 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,960 Speaker 1: too it were a little more consistent. Guy's double digit 869 00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:16,200 Speaker 1: saxon into you know me, and there's times you texted 870 00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: me during the game. I mean there's times he just 871 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,080 Speaker 1: takes why Teller, who's all of a sudden the best 872 00:45:20,080 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: guard in the world. People seem to think again, the 873 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,799 Speaker 1: same the same guy who loves he loves all things 874 00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,400 Speaker 1: everybody else in the a f C. North And his 875 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,359 Speaker 1: question to me today was, um, why did I see 876 00:45:31,400 --> 00:45:33,360 Speaker 1: to it getting pushed around so much yesterday? I'm like, 877 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:36,479 Speaker 1: was I watching the same game? Because I kept seeing 878 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 1: sometimes he was walking dudes back, he was taking why 879 00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,080 Speaker 1: a Teller and pushing him back into the quarterback and 880 00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: why I Tellers? Apparently this is the second coming at 881 00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:46,520 Speaker 1: John Hannah. Yeah, I mean, Teller is a good player, 882 00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,800 Speaker 1: don't get me wrong, but kind of came from nowhere 883 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: and everyone's favorite guarding the league all of a sudden. Anyway, 884 00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:54,920 Speaker 1: I think the thing that hurts to it is in 885 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,520 Speaker 1: the public eye is because he's playing next to Cam 886 00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: and he's so jaw dropping at times. Do you think 887 00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,839 Speaker 1: he should be able to do it every play? Well, 888 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,000 Speaker 1: Joe Green didn't do it every play either, folks, you 889 00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean, Like it's hard to be finish. 890 00:46:07,239 --> 00:46:10,799 Speaker 1: The finish the season with ten tackles for losses, which 891 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,320 Speaker 1: was third on the team behind h. T. J. Watton. 892 00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:16,800 Speaker 1: Williams finished the season with quarterback hits, which is second 893 00:46:16,960 --> 00:46:19,719 Speaker 1: to Watt and eleven sacks, which is second to Watt. 894 00:46:19,719 --> 00:46:21,120 Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, was like third in the 895 00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,160 Speaker 1: a f C. Yeah right, all right, one of the 896 00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:27,160 Speaker 1: only interior linement with over ten. Yeah, Lulu would give 897 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,040 Speaker 1: me if you're great, not a curve. He would have 898 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:30,759 Speaker 1: a very high grade too. I thought he'd a really 899 00:46:30,760 --> 00:46:33,440 Speaker 1: good year. Yeah who he is? Yeah, I mean game, 900 00:46:33,480 --> 00:46:35,160 Speaker 1: he's not good to do it, but but he didn't 901 00:46:35,200 --> 00:46:38,480 Speaker 1: miss I'm not having hardgrave no, right, right, I mean 902 00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,320 Speaker 1: that that It was a signing that hurt me, Like 903 00:46:40,440 --> 00:46:41,960 Speaker 1: I thought, boy, that'd be a great guy to it 904 00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: had for the next year forgetting eight year, ten year career. 905 00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,719 Speaker 1: I've been playing well for Philly, but sure they could 906 00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:52,000 Speaker 1: use them, but they got got they were fine without one. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, 907 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,400 Speaker 1: We're gonna take another break to come back with the 908 00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,920 Speaker 1: Fantasy Football Focus R S n R. Coverage of Steelers 909 00:46:57,960 --> 00:47:00,720 Speaker 1: playoffs is presented by FedEx and Ford. He is Matt Williamson. 910 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:02,960 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lolly. You're listening to the Drive here on 911 00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:11,600 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt 912 00:47:11,680 --> 00:47:17,640 Speaker 1: Williamson on home of the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio. 913 00:47:50,600 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: Welcome back to us. In our coverage steel playoffs is 914 00:47:53,120 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: presented by Fanex Ford. It's time for the Fantasy Football 915 00:47:56,920 --> 00:48:00,839 Speaker 1: Focus here with Matt Williamson and Dale Lolly. And if 916 00:48:00,880 --> 00:48:06,839 Speaker 1: you started our draft Kings lineup last week, very nice work. 917 00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:09,080 Speaker 1: You scored a whole bunch of poins. You probably made 918 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: some money. Our lineup scored a hundred and eighty three 919 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:15,279 Speaker 1: point nine points. I believe somewhere in that range whatever 920 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:18,160 Speaker 1: it was. But Kirk Cousins Uh with a huge game. 921 00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:22,080 Speaker 1: Uh four five passing yards and three touchdowns. A lot 922 00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,839 Speaker 1: of fantasy goodness in that game. In fact, we had 923 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,120 Speaker 1: looking at our lineup, we had the number one quarterback. 924 00:48:28,800 --> 00:48:31,120 Speaker 1: Is that Cousins was number one. Cousins number one, four 925 00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: oh five and three touchdowns. Maybe there's some formats where 926 00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:36,160 Speaker 1: Tom Brady scored a little bit. He had three and 927 00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,880 Speaker 1: four touchdowns, but he did throw an interception. Yeah. Uh, 928 00:48:40,040 --> 00:48:42,680 Speaker 1: we had Jonathan Taylor in our lineup. He went for 929 00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,080 Speaker 1: two fifty three in two touchdowns, did hundred yards of 930 00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: the first quarter. Yeah. Uh. We had Wilson Um in 931 00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,600 Speaker 1: the lineup. He scored twice, so he had twenty three 932 00:48:52,640 --> 00:48:56,480 Speaker 1: point eight points. Uh. We had one Antonio Brown in 933 00:48:56,520 --> 00:48:59,359 Speaker 1: our lineup. He scored thirty six point eight points. Yeah, 934 00:48:59,560 --> 00:49:01,160 Speaker 1: we know one is gonna get hurt, but that was 935 00:49:01,320 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: coming on. Um tore it up. I mean, if you 936 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:07,520 Speaker 1: want to look for Mrs IRV Smith only had five points. 937 00:49:12,440 --> 00:49:14,080 Speaker 1: That's the tight end position. You're not gonna go get 938 00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:15,839 Speaker 1: Travis Kelsey. When you got some of these other guys 939 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,520 Speaker 1: that we had in our lineup, it would be really 940 00:49:17,560 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: tricky next year figuring out who to pick. And yeah, 941 00:49:20,120 --> 00:49:22,200 Speaker 1: and Adam Feeling kind of let us down a little 942 00:49:22,200 --> 00:49:25,080 Speaker 1: bit because he's had all those passing yards and ERF 943 00:49:25,160 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 1: Smith and Theeland weren't involved. Jefferson was heavily involved and 944 00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:30,400 Speaker 1: but still but he didn't catch touchdown. He like he 945 00:49:30,440 --> 00:49:33,200 Speaker 1: had a bunch of catches and some yards, but no touchdown. Yeah. 946 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: It was a prime matchup against the Lions and a 947 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: lot of points back and forth. But yeah, I mean 948 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:41,160 Speaker 1: so if you listened, give us a tweet and hopefully 949 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,400 Speaker 1: you made a couple of bucks because that was a 950 00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:44,759 Speaker 1: winning lineup. Now, the only difference I did is I 951 00:49:45,120 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: went with this lineup for I do. I do a 952 00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:50,279 Speaker 1: lineup every week from my preview pick or from my 953 00:49:50,320 --> 00:49:52,279 Speaker 1: preview in d K Pittsburgh sports dot com, and I 954 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,640 Speaker 1: made one change. We had Gus Edwards in there. He 955 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:57,640 Speaker 1: got eight points, didn't score, but had an okay game. 956 00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:00,359 Speaker 1: I changed out and putting him high Is in there 957 00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,600 Speaker 1: for the same price. He ended up with twelve point 958 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:05,440 Speaker 1: seven points because he catch with that injury, right, he 959 00:50:05,560 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: was dealing with something. Yeah, I wasn't sure he was 960 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:09,680 Speaker 1: gonna play, so I went with Hines instead. He scored 961 00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:11,960 Speaker 1: twelve point seven. That's said, you know they're gonna they're 962 00:50:11,960 --> 00:50:14,400 Speaker 1: gonna beat the Jaguars. Oh yeah, right. And I know 963 00:50:14,520 --> 00:50:18,000 Speaker 1: it's weird to start both Colts running backs. It is, 964 00:50:18,120 --> 00:50:20,440 Speaker 1: but they're very different. But I got fifty points out 965 00:50:20,480 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: of the position. It's not so bad. Yeah, Yeah, a 966 00:50:25,120 --> 00:50:28,720 Speaker 1: couple of things. I assumed DFS works the same for playoffs. 967 00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 1: There's just fewer games to pick, fewer games. Yeah, and 968 00:50:31,800 --> 00:50:33,959 Speaker 1: even at that, there's six games to pick from this weekend. 969 00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna set a line up again this week. We'll 970 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: do something and you could either do it for just 971 00:50:37,520 --> 00:50:40,399 Speaker 1: a Saturday lineup or the whole the whole playoff slate 972 00:50:40,480 --> 00:50:43,440 Speaker 1: line just a Sunday line up. Yeah, so that's plenty 973 00:50:43,480 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: to choose from. Yes, we'll do that again later in 974 00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,439 Speaker 1: the week. Maybe somebody will actually will make some money 975 00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,359 Speaker 1: off of our lineups this week. I bet plenty did. 976 00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:54,080 Speaker 1: Kevin Gerski was sitting right here last week. He was 977 00:50:54,120 --> 00:50:56,760 Speaker 1: putting producing our show, and he was he was writing 978 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 1: it down and then didn't play it. Didn't he did, 979 00:50:59,200 --> 00:51:01,800 Speaker 1: and I talked to him. He's no, I forgot I 980 00:51:02,120 --> 00:51:04,880 Speaker 1: gotta take take the money and run. Absolutely, we were 981 00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: having a little conversation. I didn't mean to, you know, 982 00:51:07,040 --> 00:51:09,080 Speaker 1: to go sideways on you, but some of these rookie 983 00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:11,960 Speaker 1: running backs that are finally coming on, I mean, in 984 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: a way, they're heartbreakers because both of us invested heavily 985 00:51:15,960 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 1: from day one, but they're gonna be high picks next year. 986 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean, don't hesitate to take Dobbin's Acre, Swift, Taylor. 987 00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, those guys are gonna go top two rounds 988 00:51:25,520 --> 00:51:27,680 Speaker 1: for sure. I was. I was just telling you I 989 00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,640 Speaker 1: had on my my my main fantasy team, Josh Allen, 990 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 1: uh Cook's Dalvin Cook. I should say not Dalvin Cook, 991 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:44,000 Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor, JK. Dobbins, DeAndre Hoppins, and my other two 992 00:51:44,080 --> 00:51:46,919 Speaker 1: receivers were Brandon Cooks and Antonio Brown. And I also 993 00:51:46,960 --> 00:51:49,200 Speaker 1: had Juju Smith Schuster and I didn't make the I 994 00:51:49,239 --> 00:51:55,200 Speaker 1: didn't make the playoffs because those rookie running backs and 995 00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: now they're just going crazy. And yeah, I mean I 996 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:01,759 Speaker 1: really think three names you engined there and Hopkins won't 997 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,839 Speaker 1: be far off, but Dobbin's Taylor and certainly Cook, they're 998 00:52:05,880 --> 00:52:08,160 Speaker 1: gonna go in the top fifteen picks. Yeah, I mean 999 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,839 Speaker 1: Taylor might go and Hopkins might go to Yeah, he's 1000 00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,920 Speaker 1: off either, he's probably a day and Alan will be 1001 00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:16,719 Speaker 1: what the third quarterback taken right, don't let me have 1002 00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:20,360 Speaker 1: any ahead of him. Man, there's no reason, Yeah, heavily 1003 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:22,880 Speaker 1: would be investing in those those rookie running backs for 1004 00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,879 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, I mean it's very just I wish, 1005 00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,719 Speaker 1: you know, this is a non protection league. I would 1006 00:52:27,719 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: have a heck of a decision. I don't think that's 1007 00:52:31,320 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 1: a trend, though, Like, did we learn a lesson for 1008 00:52:34,080 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: next year's rookie running back class? No, because I think 1009 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 1: it was. I think it was. I think it was 1010 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:41,040 Speaker 1: tied into the lack of preseason two. I just think 1011 00:52:41,080 --> 00:52:43,680 Speaker 1: it's because it wasn't one of them. It was all 1012 00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: of it, and they all exploded about this time of year. 1013 00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:49,399 Speaker 1: And even like Antonio Gibs it, you know what I mean, Yeah, 1014 00:52:49,440 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 1: he got injured a little bit down the stretch, But 1015 00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,440 Speaker 1: I think it's just coaches not trusting them in protection. 1016 00:52:54,840 --> 00:52:56,200 Speaker 1: I think that was a huge part of it. Like 1017 00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:59,879 Speaker 1: you didn't because you didn't you don't want to learn 1018 00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:04,440 Speaker 1: that about your running back protecting rivers. Yeah, watching Lamar 1019 00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: Jackson get get his head, you know, taken off because 1020 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:11,479 Speaker 1: because you know Dobbins can't pass block yet that's I thought, 1021 00:53:11,800 --> 00:53:14,160 Speaker 1: that's where I really miscalculated. And it hurt me in fantasy, 1022 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:15,960 Speaker 1: and I guess it did to you too, because they 1023 00:53:16,680 --> 00:53:19,320 Speaker 1: I thought receivers would have a harder time adjusting in 1024 00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:21,520 Speaker 1: the rookie year, but it was running backs. It took 1025 00:53:21,560 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 1: the longest, without a doubt, without a doubt, And I 1026 00:53:23,680 --> 00:53:25,759 Speaker 1: think it has to be protection and just trust. And 1027 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,839 Speaker 1: I actually asked Chase Claypool about that last week. Um, 1028 00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, I said, I think I asked ju Ju 1029 00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,399 Speaker 1: too about the the Is it easier for for young 1030 00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: receivers to come into the league now and and immediately 1031 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,080 Speaker 1: step in and play, because it must be. They spent 1032 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,799 Speaker 1: their entire you know, from the time there twelve going 1033 00:53:45,880 --> 00:53:49,040 Speaker 1: to passing camps and seven on seven on drills and 1034 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:51,480 Speaker 1: things of that nature, and then they go to colleges 1035 00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:54,200 Speaker 1: that are are implementing the you know those things. And 1036 00:53:54,280 --> 00:53:56,800 Speaker 1: Claypol said, yeah, you know, the seven on seven drills 1037 00:53:56,840 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: and the camps make the transition to college year for you. 1038 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:02,239 Speaker 1: You don't take as long as to learning sense in 1039 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:04,800 Speaker 1: that situation. And then you know, if you don't have 1040 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:07,279 Speaker 1: to spend all that time learning in college to get 1041 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:10,320 Speaker 1: up to speed, well, then that that makes life easier 1042 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:14,000 Speaker 1: for you. Then it's like taking a p classes before 1043 00:54:14,000 --> 00:54:17,399 Speaker 1: you get to college. So makes sense. Yeah, I also 1044 00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:21,680 Speaker 1: think there's more college principles spread and you know these guys. 1045 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:25,239 Speaker 1: The NFL is catering more to college than they used to. 1046 00:54:25,400 --> 00:54:27,200 Speaker 1: It used to become learning the NFL way, you know, 1047 00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,080 Speaker 1: I think coaches, but he used to take a I 1048 00:54:29,120 --> 00:54:31,560 Speaker 1: mean receivers. There was a hard fast rule three years. 1049 00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:33,879 Speaker 1: Yeah right right, you know there a third year Bray 1050 00:54:33,880 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 1: who's the third year break up guy? That's not you 1051 00:54:35,760 --> 00:54:39,000 Speaker 1: don't see that anymore, right, I mean Corey Davis is 1052 00:54:39,120 --> 00:54:42,360 Speaker 1: very odd. You know that doesn't you know, it doesn't struggle, 1053 00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,200 Speaker 1: but doesn't take takes a little while and then it 1054 00:54:44,239 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: has a big year like that doesn't happen If you 1055 00:54:46,239 --> 00:54:48,359 Speaker 1: don't do it in year one or two, then move 1056 00:54:48,440 --> 00:54:50,799 Speaker 1: on from you. Yeah, when you're coming into the league. Now, yeah, 1057 00:54:50,840 --> 00:54:52,279 Speaker 1: that's part of it. I mean there's a lot of 1058 00:54:52,320 --> 00:54:56,240 Speaker 1: competition there. But looking at this week's top performers again, 1059 00:54:56,360 --> 00:54:59,680 Speaker 1: Cousins four oh five and three touchdown passes. Uh, he 1060 00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,200 Speaker 1: won't not be in the playoffs, but Tom Brady will. 1061 00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 1: He had three twenty six and forty one for four 1062 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,600 Speaker 1: touchdown passes against Atlanta. It's Atlanta, Atlanta is not in 1063 00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: the playoffs, so he does carve up bad defenses. Here's 1064 00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:17,000 Speaker 1: one thing to take note of for fantasy play this weekend. 1065 00:55:17,200 --> 00:55:20,799 Speaker 1: If you're gonna do any DFS stuff, the other than 1066 00:55:20,840 --> 00:55:24,839 Speaker 1: the Steelers in the a f C, the best defenses 1067 00:55:24,960 --> 00:55:28,800 Speaker 1: in the playoffs are all over in the NFC. So 1068 00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 1: if you're looking for guys to start, tend to lean towards, 1069 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,239 Speaker 1: you know, for fantasy purposes, lean towards those a f 1070 00:55:34,320 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 1: C games. Tennessee is a bad, awful Cleveland's a bad defense. 1071 00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:41,840 Speaker 1: Indie has some good rankings, but it's all from the 1072 00:55:41,880 --> 00:55:43,680 Speaker 1: first half of the year when they played garbage. And 1073 00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:46,160 Speaker 1: I'm not saying they're bad defense, but they're not good. 1074 00:55:47,480 --> 00:55:50,920 Speaker 1: The Ravens are okay. Um, the Bills aren't necessarily good. 1075 00:55:50,920 --> 00:55:53,600 Speaker 1: They're playing a little bit Kansas City's they're off this weekend, 1076 00:55:53,640 --> 00:55:56,080 Speaker 1: but they're not very good. They have thirty two sacks 1077 00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,560 Speaker 1: this year after they had forty five last year. It's 1078 00:55:58,560 --> 00:56:01,320 Speaker 1: a big difference. I know that you can't take a 1079 00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,880 Speaker 1: lot away from yesterday, but their defense is really bad yesterday. 1080 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,040 Speaker 1: I mean, they have holes on that team, is all 1081 00:56:06,040 --> 00:56:08,040 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Yeah, I'm not positive that the Bills aren't 1082 00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:10,440 Speaker 1: the best tea in the league. They might be. At 1083 00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:15,279 Speaker 1: least they're playing really well right now now yeah, um, yeah, 1084 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:19,800 Speaker 1: So I mean Washington, New Orleans, Tampa Bay. Uh you 1085 00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:23,759 Speaker 1: look at those those defensive Yeah, Seattle has gotten better. Yeah, 1086 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,120 Speaker 1: rams are fantastic. So you know, if you're if you're 1087 00:56:27,160 --> 00:56:30,040 Speaker 1: looking for guys to start, I would stay away from 1088 00:56:30,040 --> 00:56:32,520 Speaker 1: the NFC games and look to the to the a 1089 00:56:32,640 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: f C. Sure there's any fish in the NFC. You know, 1090 00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: Green Bay's okay, Seattle's okay. I mean those guys are 1091 00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:41,080 Speaker 1: better in Tennessee, in Cleveland without a doubt. Yeah, I 1092 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: mean yeah, it's so um that's that's how I would 1093 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,279 Speaker 1: lean towards, you know, doing that. Uh, there could be 1094 00:56:47,280 --> 00:56:48,960 Speaker 1: a lot of points scored in NFC games more I 1095 00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:51,280 Speaker 1: think about it. Yeah, I think that that they're more offensive. 1096 00:56:51,520 --> 00:56:55,360 Speaker 1: Derek Carr three seventy one and two touchdowns, DeShawn Watson 1097 00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,600 Speaker 1: with the again that that Tennessee defense three sixty five 1098 00:56:58,640 --> 00:57:02,080 Speaker 1: and three touchdowns year he had. Yeah, he's the passing 1099 00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:04,759 Speaker 1: leader this year and nothing around him and no help, 1100 00:57:04,920 --> 00:57:06,799 Speaker 1: no hope in sight. I think I called that last year. 1101 00:57:06,840 --> 00:57:09,080 Speaker 1: We were talking about who's who's put them? We talked 1102 00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: about that. I said to Shawn Watson's my my guy. 1103 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,200 Speaker 1: It was a year too late, too early. The reality 1104 00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:21,160 Speaker 1: is his year isn't much different than Alan Mahomes and Rogers. Yeah, 1105 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:25,439 Speaker 1: he just said nothing around them, and we'll talk about 1106 00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:27,640 Speaker 1: that more in the next second. When we talked to 1107 00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,440 Speaker 1: start talking a little a little bit about who got 1108 00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:32,600 Speaker 1: fired and stuff today. Looking at the running backs, it 1109 00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: was Taylor with two fifty three, Henry with two fifty two. 1110 00:57:36,080 --> 00:57:38,320 Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't happen too often. You rush for 1111 00:57:38,440 --> 00:57:41,680 Speaker 1: run for twinter and fifty yards and you don't think 1112 00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:45,640 Speaker 1: you don't need the lead that week in Russian it 1113 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,520 Speaker 1: just goes. I mean both against a FC South team. 1114 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:52,920 Speaker 1: IFC South defenses are awful, right right, right, are horrible, 1115 00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,520 Speaker 1: Houston is really bad Tennessee. Yeah, um, Dobbins had won 1116 00:57:56,640 --> 00:58:01,160 Speaker 1: sixty Uh yeah, I was only on thirteen carries to 1117 00:58:02,160 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: Nick chobb against the Steelers four team for one game. 1118 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:12,840 Speaker 1: Yeah time Montgomery had yeah, hundred five yards on eighteen carrys. 1119 00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,000 Speaker 1: They put up big points without Michael Thomas. What's the 1120 00:58:15,120 --> 00:58:17,480 Speaker 1: last time time Montgomery probably lined up at running back? 1121 00:58:17,960 --> 00:58:20,640 Speaker 1: All right? I mean he's kind of some Camaro traits, 1122 00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:23,560 Speaker 1: so give him credit for using him. Right. Looking at 1123 00:58:23,560 --> 00:58:28,360 Speaker 1: the receiving leaders, you have Marvin Jones with eight, Brandon 1124 00:58:28,400 --> 00:58:30,520 Speaker 1: Cooks eleven for one sixty six and they both had 1125 00:58:30,560 --> 00:58:33,720 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Those are monster fantasy days. Both those guys 1126 00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: are better than people think. Yeah, you can start them 1127 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:39,800 Speaker 1: every week, especially Cooks. And again Cooks did that against Tennessee. 1128 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:43,920 Speaker 1: Yeah A J. Brown ten for one fifty one touch on. 1129 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:47,360 Speaker 1: They have to. I mean you've got four hundred yards 1130 00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 1: of offense at a two players players, all right, and 1131 00:58:51,200 --> 00:58:55,120 Speaker 1: Corey Davis four or five drops of that game too offense. Yeah, 1132 00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:58,400 Speaker 1: Jerry Judy with five for one forty and a touchdown. 1133 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,360 Speaker 1: He's gonna be a guy that is going to be 1134 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 1: interesting player because I actually bet the over on his 1135 00:59:03,960 --> 00:59:06,400 Speaker 1: yardage and because he's gonna be getting so many targets 1136 00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:08,520 Speaker 1: and he was under it until that eight yard or 1137 00:59:08,600 --> 00:59:12,840 Speaker 1: at the end, by the way, and then they end 1138 00:59:12,880 --> 00:59:15,560 Speaker 1: up losing after that. But I end up reading today 1139 00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,000 Speaker 1: too that they I think he was first or second 1140 00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 1: in air yards for the whole season, and he's he 1141 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 1: had some drops and don't sleep on him. And again, 1142 00:59:26,240 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it before this season. I 1143 00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:30,320 Speaker 1: think it's really going to be the case next year 1144 00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:34,480 Speaker 1: because those guys are all kind of jelling together. Drew 1145 00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:37,480 Speaker 1: Lock could be a fantasy He's way better for fantasy 1146 00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:40,000 Speaker 1: than the world. Absolutely, and I bet that although we'll 1147 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,120 Speaker 1: get to a PROBA next segment, Elway got elevated, Yeah, elevated, elevated. 1148 00:59:44,120 --> 00:59:45,880 Speaker 1: It's basically got kicked out of the g M. Yeah, 1149 00:59:45,960 --> 00:59:47,800 Speaker 1: you're not this guy anymore, right, So I wonder if 1150 00:59:47,880 --> 00:59:49,560 Speaker 1: Drew will be back or not, or how they're gonna 1151 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,080 Speaker 1: handle that. But oh, he's gonna be back, but I 1152 00:59:51,120 --> 00:59:52,840 Speaker 1: wonder if he'll be the guy. Yeah, it's gonna be 1153 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see. And then of course Antonio Brown eleven 1154 00:59:55,360 --> 01:00:01,200 Speaker 1: for one eight, Yeah, starting to jell. But Mike Evans 1155 01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,360 Speaker 1: got hurt in that game, and they're saying it's a 1156 01:00:04,440 --> 01:00:06,240 Speaker 1: day to day, week to week kind of thing, but 1157 01:00:06,280 --> 01:00:08,360 Speaker 1: it's not like a season ender or anything. Yeah, but god, 1158 01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,080 Speaker 1: when had a big game too when he was out. Yeah, 1159 01:00:10,200 --> 01:00:12,760 Speaker 1: not not what you want out of that, but certainly, Uh, 1160 01:00:12,920 --> 01:00:15,880 Speaker 1: the interesting situation has been frustrating for we got a 1161 01:00:15,920 --> 01:00:18,680 Speaker 1: little less so this first week. It just shows you 1162 01:00:18,760 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: when what two of them can do, if you take 1163 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 1: a third out, you know they're still as good as ever, 1164 01:00:23,360 --> 01:00:26,040 Speaker 1: all three of them. Yeah, No, I I agree, and Uh, 1165 01:00:26,400 --> 01:00:29,040 Speaker 1: so we'll do our we'll do our our picks here 1166 01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,960 Speaker 1: for our team this week later in the week, but 1167 01:00:32,440 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: I could bet we're probably gonna attend towards starting some 1168 01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,000 Speaker 1: of the a f C guys. Good call. Yeah, the 1169 01:00:38,040 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: defenses are drastically different, horrendously different, right, and it's just 1170 01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:45,320 Speaker 1: not even close. So anyways, he is Met and Williamson. 1171 01:00:45,320 --> 01:00:47,760 Speaker 1: I'm Dale Lali. You're listening to the Drive here on 1172 01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:51,040 Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio, where our coverage for the Steelers playoff 1173 01:00:51,160 --> 01:00:53,840 Speaker 1: is presented by fed X and Ford. When we come back, 1174 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about some of these coaching openings around 1175 01:00:56,440 --> 01:01:01,720 Speaker 1: the league right after this. Well your tunes about Drive 1176 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,960 Speaker 1: on Home of the Black and Goal Steelers Nation Radio. 1177 01:01:10,840 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 1: M H, welcome back to our coverage. So Steelers Playoffs 1178 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:43,440 Speaker 1: I presented by FED EXTRA on board and Matt. It's 1179 01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:47,000 Speaker 1: a Black Monday um on the league and we've been 1180 01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:49,880 Speaker 1: We knew there were going to be some openings. There's 1181 01:01:49,920 --> 01:01:53,320 Speaker 1: been some some uh stuff that's kind of happened here 1182 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,320 Speaker 1: over you know. After all, we knew that the Falcons, 1183 01:01:56,440 --> 01:01:59,800 Speaker 1: the Texans, the Lions would be looking for new head coaches. 1184 01:02:00,000 --> 01:02:03,720 Speaker 1: All we've seen, uh, the Jaguars, Jets, and Chargers throw 1185 01:02:03,760 --> 01:02:06,720 Speaker 1: their hats into the arena there as well. And I'm 1186 01:02:06,760 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: looking here anything, there's usually one more that after the 1187 01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,160 Speaker 1: fact that you know, something happens. And Zack Taylor got 1188 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,240 Speaker 1: the stamp of approval, he's gonna be back, supposedly the 1189 01:02:18,280 --> 01:02:20,360 Speaker 1: Eagles did. But I know that Peterson is supposed to 1190 01:02:20,440 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: be meeting with ownership tomorrow. I doubt that's the fire them, 1191 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:27,000 Speaker 1: but I don't know anyone else. Sometimes those go south. 1192 01:02:27,200 --> 01:02:30,720 Speaker 1: Yeah right, I mean it's not a guarantee. Yeah, it's 1193 01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,640 Speaker 1: it is not um. But as we sit here right now, 1194 01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:37,400 Speaker 1: so which one of these jobs is the most attractive 1195 01:02:37,920 --> 01:02:41,360 Speaker 1: to you? I'm gonna read off what the what these jobs? 1196 01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,280 Speaker 1: How much cap space they have, the draft picks that 1197 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:49,360 Speaker 1: they have, and you Yeah, so it was starting from 1198 01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:53,600 Speaker 1: the bottom here, the Falcon's job, because they have the 1199 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:55,920 Speaker 1: least amount of COMMNNA go by cap space ago, so 1200 01:02:56,640 --> 01:03:00,080 Speaker 1: they are this is all estimates on the same on 1201 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:02,440 Speaker 1: the cap stuff. But they're twenty four million over the 1202 01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:06,600 Speaker 1: cap over over the cap is that I imagine or 1203 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:08,960 Speaker 1: when whatever it is, one seventy whatever, it's gonna be 1204 01:03:09,040 --> 01:03:11,280 Speaker 1: higher than that. But they don't have a lot of 1205 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,040 Speaker 1: cap space, and in folks, they're not gonna get cap 1206 01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:17,440 Speaker 1: relif by trading Julio or Ryan there those arend that 1207 01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: doesn't Yeah, that doesn't help um. So they get a 1208 01:03:21,000 --> 01:03:24,040 Speaker 1: first round pick, it's a fourth overall pick, which is appealing. 1209 01:03:24,240 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 1: They get the fourth pick in the second round, and 1210 01:03:27,280 --> 01:03:29,680 Speaker 1: they've got the fourth pick in the third round and 1211 01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:33,760 Speaker 1: they have three picks and rounds four through seven, but 1212 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:38,440 Speaker 1: no cap space, which I think they're interesting, Like they 1213 01:03:38,480 --> 01:03:40,720 Speaker 1: were four and twelve this year, but they played better 1214 01:03:40,800 --> 01:03:42,600 Speaker 1: than a four and twelve team, and this is two 1215 01:03:42,680 --> 01:03:45,880 Speaker 1: years in rows. They've lost close games they do and 1216 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,040 Speaker 1: the Chargers have some of that obviously. Would you give 1217 01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,440 Speaker 1: Raheem More a set job? That side where I was 1218 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,440 Speaker 1: going with this, he's going to actually interview. The other 1219 01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:58,360 Speaker 1: interrooms are not yesterday's side. The defense played pretty well, 1220 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:02,960 Speaker 1: and I fear like if you run it back with 1221 01:04:03,160 --> 01:04:05,680 Speaker 1: Ryan and Julio and that whole group, and you might 1222 01:04:05,760 --> 01:04:08,320 Speaker 1: as well give Morris a year and see what happens 1223 01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:11,760 Speaker 1: as opposed to blowing it up. But then you might 1224 01:04:11,800 --> 01:04:14,000 Speaker 1: get old and be picking up the Papa Draft again. 1225 01:04:14,200 --> 01:04:16,880 Speaker 1: And should you take a quarterback no matter what it 1226 01:04:17,040 --> 01:04:21,360 Speaker 1: for if there's you know, if it's Lance or you 1227 01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:23,600 Speaker 1: know Wilson, or does that help you That doesn't help 1228 01:04:23,640 --> 01:04:26,000 Speaker 1: you win this year? Next year? Yeah, I mean that 1229 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:28,920 Speaker 1: doesn't help your immediate goal. I mean, Drew Breves will 1230 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:31,000 Speaker 1: probably gone out of division, Brady's not gonna be there 1231 01:04:31,080 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: much longer to it's Caroline is a mess. You could 1232 01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:38,080 Speaker 1: win that division next year. I mean, I don't think 1233 01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:41,920 Speaker 1: that's crazy talk. That's low on my list though, of 1234 01:04:42,080 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: ones I would want. I mean, how would you handle 1235 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:47,800 Speaker 1: the draft back? I mean, I don't know that you 1236 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,280 Speaker 1: could turn away from a franchise quarterback. I don't know 1237 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:53,680 Speaker 1: that you can, but I mean I would be open 1238 01:04:53,720 --> 01:04:55,560 Speaker 1: to trading out of that spot if somebody else wanted 1239 01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:58,520 Speaker 1: to slide up because I need defensive help. If there 1240 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: was a there's no chase you, I'm gonn this track. 1241 01:05:00,480 --> 01:05:01,800 Speaker 1: If you have one of those type of guys, that 1242 01:05:01,840 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: would be ideal. But like, if I could move back, 1243 01:05:04,840 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, four or five spots and pick up an 1244 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,480 Speaker 1: extra second round pick, now I can get three defensive 1245 01:05:10,520 --> 01:05:12,200 Speaker 1: guys who can come in and give me help right away, 1246 01:05:12,280 --> 01:05:15,720 Speaker 1: working maybe drafting offensive lineman and two defensive guys and 1247 01:05:15,840 --> 01:05:18,520 Speaker 1: make me better. That's not bad or I mean, with 1248 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: with that moment, maybe i'd even consider, like, hey, I'll 1249 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:24,680 Speaker 1: moved down to eight and give me your first next 1250 01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:26,520 Speaker 1: year because I might need to move up to go 1251 01:05:26,600 --> 01:05:28,440 Speaker 1: get right, And then that gives you the ammo to 1252 01:05:28,520 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: do that and run it back. But I have some 1253 01:05:30,920 --> 01:05:34,000 Speaker 1: cards in my hand that I can make moves next year. Yeah, 1254 01:05:34,520 --> 01:05:40,680 Speaker 1: that one's tricky. This one's even trickier. Houston fifteen point 1255 01:05:40,840 --> 01:05:44,760 Speaker 1: nine million over the cap next year. No first round pick, alright, 1256 01:05:44,880 --> 01:05:48,960 Speaker 1: that goes to Miami, No second round pick. They've got 1257 01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,400 Speaker 1: a third round pick, and they've got five picks through 1258 01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:55,920 Speaker 1: rounds four through seven. But you have DeShawn Watson. With 1259 01:05:56,040 --> 01:05:59,280 Speaker 1: all respect to Herbert and Lawrence and quarterbacks will talk 1260 01:05:59,280 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 1: about in this conver station, gimme Watson. Yeah, you know, 1261 01:06:02,680 --> 01:06:04,680 Speaker 1: because I know what he is. Yeah, and I know 1262 01:06:04,760 --> 01:06:09,440 Speaker 1: he's great and so fantastic. If I'm taking well, I 1263 01:06:09,560 --> 01:06:13,280 Speaker 1: think ownership should say I want to win the Super 1264 01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:17,080 Speaker 1: Bowl or be a big time contender in two thousand 1265 01:06:17,160 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 1: twenty two, we're gonna we're gonna struggle for a year. 1266 01:06:20,680 --> 01:06:21,960 Speaker 1: We don't really have a lot of You get to 1267 01:06:22,000 --> 01:06:25,080 Speaker 1: clean up your clean some things up. You know, maybe 1268 01:06:25,120 --> 01:06:28,000 Speaker 1: we'll trade JJ for third round pick and you know, 1269 01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:30,800 Speaker 1: do some house cleaning. Sorry to sewn, it's gonna be 1270 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:32,880 Speaker 1: a tough year, but you're gonna be real happy about 1271 01:06:32,920 --> 01:06:35,919 Speaker 1: it two years from now, because they don't they don't 1272 01:06:35,920 --> 01:06:37,920 Speaker 1: have much to do anything right now. The problem is 1273 01:06:38,040 --> 01:06:42,520 Speaker 1: you're bringing in a new coach. He's just awful. Yeah, 1274 01:06:42,680 --> 01:06:44,840 Speaker 1: I mean they almost have to bring in a defensive guy, 1275 01:06:45,120 --> 01:06:48,920 Speaker 1: I would think, because it's just they just do it's 1276 01:06:48,960 --> 01:06:54,040 Speaker 1: it's there. Bill O'Brien hamstrung this franchise badly understanding, right, 1277 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,520 Speaker 1: they really have one good thing going for him. It's 1278 01:06:56,520 --> 01:06:58,960 Speaker 1: a great thing to have, It's yeah, I mean, it's 1279 01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:01,280 Speaker 1: the toughest thing to find is a franchise quarterback. He 1280 01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:03,960 Speaker 1: got your franchise quarterback, but everything else around him is 1281 01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:06,080 Speaker 1: a train wreck. And you know what many resources to 1282 01:07:06,880 --> 01:07:09,720 Speaker 1: get draft picks and things like. It's not like somebody's gonna, 1283 01:07:09,760 --> 01:07:12,440 Speaker 1: you know, give you something for David Johnson or you know. 1284 01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks came out and said he just absolutely does 1285 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:18,080 Speaker 1: not want to be traded again. And I'm sure Watson 1286 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:19,320 Speaker 1: is looking at ang going, I don't want them to 1287 01:07:19,360 --> 01:07:21,440 Speaker 1: be traded. I need somebody to third ball, right, And 1288 01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:23,920 Speaker 1: I bet if we looked at that team, they probably 1289 01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:27,600 Speaker 1: need eight to ten starters. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and no, 1290 01:07:27,840 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: and they have no no cap space and no draft 1291 01:07:30,760 --> 01:07:33,040 Speaker 1: picks with which you do it. I feel bad for Watson. 1292 01:07:33,040 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: I hope his whole career doesn't go that way. But 1293 01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:36,320 Speaker 1: I don't think next year is gonna be pretty No, 1294 01:07:36,320 --> 01:07:39,600 Speaker 1: I don't think so. Either. Detroit has ten point six 1295 01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:42,520 Speaker 1: million in cap space, they have the seventh overall pick, 1296 01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,600 Speaker 1: they get the seventh pick in round two, the seventh 1297 01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:47,880 Speaker 1: pick in round three, and two picks in the fourth 1298 01:07:47,920 --> 01:07:51,000 Speaker 1: and fifth round. No six or seventh. It's not a 1299 01:07:51,040 --> 01:07:53,880 Speaker 1: great job either. The one thing I think a lot 1300 01:07:53,880 --> 01:07:56,080 Speaker 1: of people look at Detroit, good boy, that's a terrible organization. 1301 01:07:56,480 --> 01:07:59,680 Speaker 1: But they're loyal. Yeah, I mean they probably kept Patricia. 1302 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: You're too long. You know. They don't go through coaches 1303 01:08:03,120 --> 01:08:06,760 Speaker 1: left and right. They're also looking for a GM um 1304 01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 1: big quarterback situation. Almost. I think in that situation, you 1305 01:08:11,040 --> 01:08:13,800 Speaker 1: have to hire the GM and allow the GM to 1306 01:08:13,920 --> 01:08:16,479 Speaker 1: help hire the coach. And I know they're already talking 1307 01:08:16,479 --> 01:08:18,760 Speaker 1: about what they want to get the what's his face 1308 01:08:18,880 --> 01:08:25,519 Speaker 1: from the Yeah he's from Michigan. That's great, fantastic. Does 1309 01:08:25,600 --> 01:08:27,679 Speaker 1: that mean he's a good coach because he well he's 1310 01:08:27,720 --> 01:08:31,040 Speaker 1: from here. No, he can't. That's not you can't make 1311 01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:34,760 Speaker 1: your coaching decision based on what he's from here to. Yeah, 1312 01:08:35,120 --> 01:08:38,000 Speaker 1: most right. And I don't know one of the things 1313 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:43,400 Speaker 1: that you know, I get it, um, you know, minority. 1314 01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:48,320 Speaker 1: We need more minority coaches in the NFL. But automatically 1315 01:08:48,400 --> 01:08:52,400 Speaker 1: saying well, Salah and the enemy should be head coaches, 1316 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: I don't know that that's I mean, they should be 1317 01:08:56,000 --> 01:08:58,519 Speaker 1: interviewing for these jobs, there's no doubt about it. But 1318 01:08:58,600 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that I just say, Okay, you're you're 1319 01:09:00,280 --> 01:09:01,760 Speaker 1: the best guy, We're going to hand you the job. 1320 01:09:02,400 --> 01:09:04,439 Speaker 1: I don't know if they've got that strong a resumet, 1321 01:09:04,600 --> 01:09:08,200 Speaker 1: because what did Solids defense do this year when they 1322 01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,479 Speaker 1: didn't when he didn't have guys, Yeah, when he didn't 1323 01:09:11,479 --> 01:09:13,720 Speaker 1: have Stunt last year had last year he had Washington's 1324 01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,880 Speaker 1: defense with with four first round draft picks up front, 1325 01:09:16,920 --> 01:09:19,080 Speaker 1: but they could get after. They didn't have that this 1326 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:21,800 Speaker 1: year and their defense wasn't nearly as good. I mean, 1327 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:24,120 Speaker 1: by all counts, he's a great leader, he's very fiery, 1328 01:09:24,120 --> 01:09:25,800 Speaker 1: he's very smart, and I would want to sit down 1329 01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,800 Speaker 1: in the room with him and talk to him. Absolutely. Yeah. 1330 01:09:27,840 --> 01:09:29,760 Speaker 1: I don't know if they're slam duns to get jobs though, 1331 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,240 Speaker 1: um B enemy gets all this credit for Kansas City's offense. Well, 1332 01:09:33,280 --> 01:09:35,880 Speaker 1: Andy Reid calls that. He doesn't make that, he doesn't 1333 01:09:36,040 --> 01:09:39,519 Speaker 1: call the offense. That's Andy Reid's job. Yeah. I mean, 1334 01:09:39,560 --> 01:09:43,200 Speaker 1: a guy like Caldwell has been interviewing, he's at least 1335 01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:45,559 Speaker 1: been a head coach, and he's one right, Marvin Lewis 1336 01:09:45,600 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: has been a head coach. These guys have been there 1337 01:09:47,400 --> 01:09:50,360 Speaker 1: and done you know. That to me is where if 1338 01:09:50,400 --> 01:09:54,000 Speaker 1: you want to talk about where the disconnect is between 1339 01:09:54,080 --> 01:09:59,800 Speaker 1: minority coaches, coaching hires and everything else. You often see 1340 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: um like Todd Bowls for example, Todd bowl should be 1341 01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:07,639 Speaker 1: getting interviews because he's done it. He's done it as well. 1342 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 1: That's where that's where the second time around, like the 1343 01:10:11,840 --> 01:10:14,400 Speaker 1: minority head coaches don't get the second time the second 1344 01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:17,519 Speaker 1: chance is often might be right about that, I mean, 1345 01:10:18,040 --> 01:10:19,799 Speaker 1: and so I would talk to some of those they've 1346 01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:21,880 Speaker 1: at least done this, and you're not bringing in a 1347 01:10:22,000 --> 01:10:24,280 Speaker 1: new a guy who's never been a head coach before 1348 01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:27,840 Speaker 1: and say, okay, learn on the job, and you know 1349 01:10:27,880 --> 01:10:30,599 Speaker 1: when it doesn't work out after two years, well sorry, 1350 01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:33,320 Speaker 1: and then you don't get another head coaching chance back 1351 01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 1: the Lions, though, Yeah, the big question. And I don't 1352 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:39,360 Speaker 1: care who the coach George em is, but I think 1353 01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:41,759 Speaker 1: they have to have this answer when the second they're hired. 1354 01:10:42,280 --> 01:10:44,720 Speaker 1: Are we in with Matthew or we trade? Absolutely? And 1355 01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:46,720 Speaker 1: that would be the first question. Hey, what how do 1356 01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:49,840 Speaker 1: you reband? Yeah, what's your plan for quarterback? Because this 1357 01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: is what we've got. Is he a guy that you 1358 01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:55,160 Speaker 1: can win with? Or do you want to trade him for? 1359 01:10:55,280 --> 01:10:56,919 Speaker 1: I think you get a first round picked for Stafford. 1360 01:10:56,960 --> 01:10:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't think it's a win situation where you have 1361 01:10:58,960 --> 01:11:01,680 Speaker 1: to go, you know, the Niners or the Colts. I 1362 01:11:01,720 --> 01:11:03,479 Speaker 1: think would give you a lot for a guy like that. 1363 01:11:04,680 --> 01:11:06,400 Speaker 1: I think you don't have enough pieces in place to 1364 01:11:06,479 --> 01:11:10,120 Speaker 1: win the next two years. So to me, I'm looking 1365 01:11:10,160 --> 01:11:13,160 Speaker 1: elsewhere from my quarterback and probably dealing Stafford if the 1366 01:11:13,240 --> 01:11:15,600 Speaker 1: price is right. If I know I have, you know, 1367 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:17,360 Speaker 1: somebody on the hook. If I can get a first 1368 01:11:17,439 --> 01:11:20,360 Speaker 1: round pick from the Colts or Niners, I think you 1369 01:11:20,520 --> 01:11:23,720 Speaker 1: go with trade Lance or Donald or both or something 1370 01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,479 Speaker 1: like here's here's the problem with here's the problem with 1371 01:11:26,560 --> 01:11:30,000 Speaker 1: trading him though, lose galloway. Um, he's got a nine 1372 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:32,760 Speaker 1: point five million salary next year, what doesn't that's not bad? No, 1373 01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,680 Speaker 1: I would say he's feasible. But he's got a ten 1374 01:11:34,680 --> 01:11:37,320 Speaker 1: million dollar roster bonus that you're gonna have to pick up. 1375 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:40,200 Speaker 1: So he's really gonna cost you nineteen and a half million, which, 1376 01:11:40,240 --> 01:11:44,200 Speaker 1: again in the grand spark, is not awful. Um. And 1377 01:11:44,280 --> 01:11:47,200 Speaker 1: then he's tradeable. Some of these quarterbacks aren't the roster 1378 01:11:47,320 --> 01:11:51,760 Speaker 1: bonuses due on in marches. Um, it's due to the 1379 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:54,880 Speaker 1: fifth day of the league here, which mean it'll be 1380 01:11:54,960 --> 01:11:57,320 Speaker 1: doing March. So if you're the Lions, you're gonna have 1381 01:11:57,360 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: to pick that up. But they're gonna trade them before 1382 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:02,559 Speaker 1: the draft or not at all. But you probably won't 1383 01:12:02,600 --> 01:12:05,160 Speaker 1: do that before the new league here starts. You're probably. 1384 01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:07,280 Speaker 1: I mean, that's so there's some urgency there, like, are 1385 01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 1: you gonna want to pick up a ten million dollar 1386 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:10,519 Speaker 1: option on this guy which is gonna go against your 1387 01:12:10,600 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 1: cap and he's not on your roster. That's that's tough. 1388 01:12:15,160 --> 01:12:16,920 Speaker 1: And then you then you I better be getting a 1389 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,439 Speaker 1: first round draft pick for him, right, I mean, that's 1390 01:12:19,439 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 1: the thing with with the wind Steel. I believe it's wins. Yeah, 1391 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,560 Speaker 1: it's wins. He has a roster bonus duo on the 1392 01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,840 Speaker 1: third day of training camp, which a lot different. So 1393 01:12:29,880 --> 01:12:31,960 Speaker 1: if you trade for him, the team who trades for 1394 01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:34,120 Speaker 1: him then has to has to pick up that they pay. 1395 01:12:35,040 --> 01:12:37,639 Speaker 1: Um it's a big difference, a big difference. We're talking 1396 01:12:37,640 --> 01:12:41,360 Speaker 1: about ten million bucks. Um. I could be persuaded also 1397 01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:43,880 Speaker 1: to keep Stafford because I think he's quite good. The 1398 01:12:44,000 --> 01:12:46,160 Speaker 1: problem is, you get the seventh pick in the first round, 1399 01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:48,240 Speaker 1: are you gonna be able to get a quarterback because 1400 01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:50,000 Speaker 1: you don't have one on the roster and you have 1401 01:12:50,080 --> 01:12:52,120 Speaker 1: too many holes to trade up to three or whatever, 1402 01:12:52,479 --> 01:12:53,920 Speaker 1: because then you're gonna go sign Then you gotta go 1403 01:12:53,960 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 1: sign one. Then you're going, okay, now we're gonna you know, 1404 01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:58,519 Speaker 1: bridge with Teddy Bridgewater here again or something like that, 1405 01:12:58,680 --> 01:13:01,559 Speaker 1: and that's the Wins into the world. Yeah, that's no good. 1406 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,519 Speaker 1: You're gonna you're gonna pay the same money you would 1407 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:06,360 Speaker 1: have been paying Stafford the top five again next. Yeah, 1408 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,519 Speaker 1: that's a problem. That's a tough one because there's not much. 1409 01:13:09,760 --> 01:13:12,120 Speaker 1: Like I mentioned, Kenny Golladay is probably gonna leave, like 1410 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:15,200 Speaker 1: there's a lot of things you need. Yeah, that might 1411 01:13:15,240 --> 01:13:17,000 Speaker 1: be my last job of all these. Actually, the more 1412 01:13:17,040 --> 01:13:19,439 Speaker 1: I think about it, the Chargers have thirty million in 1413 01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:22,000 Speaker 1: cap space. They've got the thirteenth pick in the first round, 1414 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:23,920 Speaker 1: the thirteen pick of the second round, the third round 1415 01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,599 Speaker 1: the same, and they've got five picks and rounds four 1416 01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:29,040 Speaker 1: through seven. And that's an awesome job. They've got a 1417 01:13:29,080 --> 01:13:32,000 Speaker 1: quarterback right there. Their problem is, is there a number 1418 01:13:32,040 --> 01:13:35,519 Speaker 1: two team in their city and in their division. Yeah? Yeah, 1419 01:13:35,600 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 1: and we'll be probably for a little while. But seven 1420 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:41,240 Speaker 1: teams go every year. I mean, get through when James back. 1421 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,559 Speaker 1: Get through, when James back, You get your quarterback in place. 1422 01:13:43,600 --> 01:13:46,000 Speaker 1: You got Bosa, you get you got pieces. Yeah, you 1423 01:13:46,120 --> 01:13:48,000 Speaker 1: got guys. I mean you want the last four games 1424 01:13:48,040 --> 01:13:50,439 Speaker 1: in a row. See that to me? If I'm the Chargers, 1425 01:13:50,720 --> 01:13:53,439 Speaker 1: I'm looking at hey, Marvin Lewis, what are you doing? 1426 01:13:53,960 --> 01:13:55,400 Speaker 1: We need to we need to learn how to win, 1427 01:13:56,479 --> 01:13:58,760 Speaker 1: We need how to rebuild. You know, Jim Calboy, what 1428 01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:00,680 Speaker 1: do you you know? Yeah, it's a bad call for 1429 01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,320 Speaker 1: a team like that. I don't need the young up 1430 01:14:02,360 --> 01:14:04,759 Speaker 1: and comer who's Yeah, we don't need somebody making showing 1431 01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:07,840 Speaker 1: you we need somebody that knows how this works. We 1432 01:14:07,960 --> 01:14:10,840 Speaker 1: get some pieces in place here, we've got some cap space, 1433 01:14:11,439 --> 01:14:15,200 Speaker 1: get us to the playoffs, and bring this quarterback along. Right, 1434 01:14:15,320 --> 01:14:17,840 Speaker 1: we got a lot of horses we're gonna you know, 1435 01:14:18,439 --> 01:14:20,599 Speaker 1: I guess they might lose like a hunter Henry, but yeah, 1436 01:14:20,640 --> 01:14:22,639 Speaker 1: that's doable. You know, you've got a good draft pick. 1437 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:25,720 Speaker 1: That's a good job. I think it's a really good job, 1438 01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:29,000 Speaker 1: because I mean I think Herbert's awesome. Yeah, the Jets 1439 01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:32,360 Speaker 1: have seventy three million in cap space. They've got two 1440 01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,559 Speaker 1: first round picks. They get their pick in the uh 1441 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:38,880 Speaker 1: Seahawks pick, They've got a second, They've got two thirds 1442 01:14:39,439 --> 01:14:42,519 Speaker 1: and five and rounds four through seven. A lot of 1443 01:14:42,560 --> 01:14:45,360 Speaker 1: draft capital, a lot of cap space to picking third. Right. 1444 01:14:46,479 --> 01:14:52,400 Speaker 1: Uh So again this comes down to do you love 1445 01:14:52,479 --> 01:14:55,519 Speaker 1: Donald or would rather have Fields or Wilson? You know, 1446 01:14:56,200 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 1: and I think you'd lean towards the rookie just for 1447 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:03,680 Speaker 1: money reasons to to start over. Um, Joe Douglas is 1448 01:15:03,720 --> 01:15:06,000 Speaker 1: gonna be the GM though, I mean he's gonna pick 1449 01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:08,559 Speaker 1: the guy. And they have a couple of things in place, 1450 01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:11,439 Speaker 1: Like I think people laughed early, Like no one's donna 1451 01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:13,080 Speaker 1: want the Jets job like. I don't think they're a 1452 01:15:13,160 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: laughing stock. They're just they have resources to build. I 1453 01:15:15,880 --> 01:15:17,600 Speaker 1: mean they got a little better as the season went on. 1454 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:22,040 Speaker 1: They're not gonna be good next year, right, but see 1455 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:27,080 Speaker 1: los Alan Lawrence heards it. Does I think I run 1456 01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:30,600 Speaker 1: it back again with Donald I drafted I draft. I 1457 01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,439 Speaker 1: go for the offensive linement with the second pick if 1458 01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:34,680 Speaker 1: he can't move out of that spot. Late last night, 1459 01:15:34,720 --> 01:15:36,960 Speaker 1: I put out that exact tweet that this was my 1460 01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:39,839 Speaker 1: prediction for the draft. Now you're set at both tackle spots. 1461 01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:42,160 Speaker 1: That's what Douglas is all about too. He loves the 1462 01:15:42,240 --> 01:15:45,120 Speaker 1: big men you've got. You could pick. You got two 1463 01:15:45,200 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 1: first round picks, like in a second it's it's early 1464 01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:51,200 Speaker 1: and so essentially you got three first round picks, you 1465 01:15:51,280 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 1: got two third round picks like you could really rebuild 1466 01:15:54,200 --> 01:15:57,240 Speaker 1: this thing, and a bunch of cap space. The tweet 1467 01:15:57,280 --> 01:15:59,960 Speaker 1: I said out last night is I think Jags go Lauren. 1468 01:16:00,680 --> 01:16:04,600 Speaker 1: Douglas watches his soul Dude from Oregon and says, I 1469 01:16:04,720 --> 01:16:08,080 Speaker 1: can have Pace and Baselli for ten years as my tackle, 1470 01:16:08,640 --> 01:16:13,880 Speaker 1: but Beckton's a star, and give Sam a friendly deal 1471 01:16:14,040 --> 01:16:17,800 Speaker 1: for three years and get him, get him a true 1472 01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:20,799 Speaker 1: number one running back, get him, get him a quarterback 1473 01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:24,160 Speaker 1: guru type dude, and let's see what we can do 1474 01:16:24,320 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 1: here and dominate in the trenches. I think that might happen. 1475 01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:32,120 Speaker 1: And then that third pick is, uh, somebody has a 1476 01:16:32,200 --> 01:16:34,840 Speaker 1: quarterback forget who The third pick is off the top 1477 01:16:34,880 --> 01:16:37,080 Speaker 1: of my head, but anyway, and oh, Miami with from 1478 01:16:37,120 --> 01:16:40,120 Speaker 1: Houston's pick. And then they just say, come and get it. 1479 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:42,080 Speaker 1: Give me an Orgy three deal for the three for 1480 01:16:42,280 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 1: your choice of any quarterback not named Lawrence. I can 1481 01:16:44,600 --> 01:16:48,200 Speaker 1: see that happening, but who knows. And then Jacksonville has 1482 01:16:48,280 --> 01:16:51,000 Speaker 1: eighty one million dollars in cap space. I think it's 1483 01:16:51,000 --> 01:16:53,719 Speaker 1: a great job. Two first round picks, the number one overall, 1484 01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,200 Speaker 1: and the Rams pick two seconds the number one. Then 1485 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:59,000 Speaker 1: the first pick of the second round in the Vikings 1486 01:16:59,080 --> 01:17:01,559 Speaker 1: pick at forty seven, which is right made way through 1487 01:17:01,560 --> 01:17:03,679 Speaker 1: the and then at one third, which is the first 1488 01:17:03,720 --> 01:17:05,840 Speaker 1: pick in the third round. So you're gonna get five 1489 01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:08,599 Speaker 1: quality players in the draft, presumably if you do it right. 1490 01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:10,559 Speaker 1: And then a couple early wins last year and they 1491 01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,880 Speaker 1: got seven picks and rounds four through seven. Wow, yeah, 1492 01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:17,240 Speaker 1: that's pretty good. And you get Lawrence. But you have 1493 01:17:17,479 --> 01:17:19,519 Speaker 1: to change the culture. You have to change the culture. 1494 01:17:19,680 --> 01:17:21,559 Speaker 1: Like a lot of people talk about Urban Meyer going there. 1495 01:17:22,479 --> 01:17:24,920 Speaker 1: That doesn't change the culture for me though. I guess 1496 01:17:24,920 --> 01:17:26,400 Speaker 1: that's what he's good at, though, at least at the 1497 01:17:26,439 --> 01:17:30,080 Speaker 1: college level. The college college levels, like it's just way 1498 01:17:30,160 --> 01:17:33,640 Speaker 1: different than the NFL. There's such a young team, but 1499 01:17:33,800 --> 01:17:37,479 Speaker 1: that divisions stinks not so great, right, I mean, the 1500 01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,560 Speaker 1: Tennessee or the Colts built for the wrong haul. The 1501 01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:42,640 Speaker 1: problem is, does anybody want to go to Jacksonville? Is 1502 01:17:42,680 --> 01:17:44,479 Speaker 1: a free agent, you have some of that. They have 1503 01:17:44,600 --> 01:17:46,760 Speaker 1: to overpay to get guys there, and then you get 1504 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,320 Speaker 1: stuck with those contracts because those guys aren't And I'm 1505 01:17:49,360 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: not overpaying to do that. Yeah, I'm not getting the 1506 01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:56,920 Speaker 1: eight year veteran and pay paying Andrew Norwell a jillion 1507 01:17:57,000 --> 01:18:02,200 Speaker 1: dollars Andrew Norwell. Maybe a Lawrence situation changes that next 1508 01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,120 Speaker 1: off season. But you know, like if he comes in 1509 01:18:04,240 --> 01:18:06,560 Speaker 1: like Herbert and looks awesome and oh, I want to 1510 01:18:06,600 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 1: go play there and get on the ground floor of 1511 01:18:08,200 --> 01:18:09,960 Speaker 1: this dude, but this off season is gonna be tough. 1512 01:18:11,840 --> 01:18:14,599 Speaker 1: I think it's a great job, though, just because you're 1513 01:18:14,680 --> 01:18:16,559 Speaker 1: dealing me a lot of nice cards that I can 1514 01:18:16,640 --> 01:18:18,800 Speaker 1: deal with, and I can build it my way. You know, 1515 01:18:19,479 --> 01:18:22,200 Speaker 1: we can take this any almost need what they had 1516 01:18:22,280 --> 01:18:24,120 Speaker 1: with when they had Tom Coughlin, who was a guy 1517 01:18:24,200 --> 01:18:27,240 Speaker 1: who came in, no nonsense guy. Uh, let's you know 1518 01:18:27,280 --> 01:18:30,200 Speaker 1: I'm talking about when he first took over. Yeah, not 1519 01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:33,240 Speaker 1: not the the second version of him, but the guy 1520 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:36,760 Speaker 1: who is looking to establish himself, establish a presence established. Okay, 1521 01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:38,960 Speaker 1: here's what we're gonna do. We're gonna, uh, you know, 1522 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna I'm gonna go scout the heck out of 1523 01:18:41,680 --> 01:18:44,559 Speaker 1: the Titans and the Colts, and we're gonna build ourselves 1524 01:18:44,600 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 1: to beat them. And because I don't know what Jacksonville's 1525 01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:53,320 Speaker 1: maybe Lawrence changes all that. Maybe, but you like Burrow 1526 01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,200 Speaker 1: with the Bengals, you know what I mean, similar to me, 1527 01:18:57,280 --> 01:18:59,519 Speaker 1: But I don't know the Burrow has necessarily changed anything 1528 01:18:59,560 --> 01:19:01,680 Speaker 1: with the Bang though, I know, I mean that's what 1529 01:19:01,720 --> 01:19:04,240 Speaker 1: I mean. I kind of using that as a might be. 1530 01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:09,280 Speaker 1: But there's some massive obstacles to overcome those guys. A yeah, 1531 01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,439 Speaker 1: that's the problem is. And then you end up with 1532 01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:13,960 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz and he goes, I'm tired of losing here, 1533 01:19:13,960 --> 01:19:17,800 Speaker 1: I went out getting beat upright, Yeah, I mean you 1534 01:19:17,880 --> 01:19:20,000 Speaker 1: gotta hit on the draft picks often. You have to 1535 01:19:20,080 --> 01:19:24,040 Speaker 1: bust it immediate optimism. And I think Lawrence is amazing, 1536 01:19:24,720 --> 01:19:26,200 Speaker 1: but it's not gonna be an easy go. I mean, 1537 01:19:27,040 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: Luck and Manning and a lot of these guys Aikman, 1538 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:32,800 Speaker 1: they came in a league and struggles. I think, I 1539 01:19:32,840 --> 01:19:34,800 Speaker 1: think you have to hit a home run with a 1540 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:37,439 Speaker 1: coaching higher here. Yeah, And I don't know that. I don't. 1541 01:19:38,120 --> 01:19:40,240 Speaker 1: I don't know that Herban Meyer. The college guys never 1542 01:19:40,439 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 1: work out in the NFL. Ever, I mean it's just 1543 01:19:44,360 --> 01:19:47,880 Speaker 1: and by all accounts, he's a massive leader recruiter. Great 1544 01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,040 Speaker 1: Nick Saban was too, and how did that work out? 1545 01:19:51,439 --> 01:19:53,040 Speaker 1: You know? In two years he's He's like, I can't 1546 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:54,720 Speaker 1: do this anymore. These guys don't listen to me like 1547 01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:57,800 Speaker 1: the college guys. That's the thing. You can't. You know, 1548 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,519 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take your scholarship from you, gonna bench you, 1549 01:20:00,680 --> 01:20:02,479 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna be a pro like you can't. 1550 01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:06,160 Speaker 1: I'm still getting paid, right, right, I mean, I'm still 1551 01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:09,439 Speaker 1: taking home millions of bucks and and well, the biggest 1552 01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:12,160 Speaker 1: thing too, is you can't recruit ten five star guys, right, 1553 01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:14,000 Speaker 1: that's the thing. They play with the same playing field 1554 01:20:14,000 --> 01:20:16,240 Speaker 1: as everybody else, you know, and you get Lawrence great, 1555 01:20:16,360 --> 01:20:18,920 Speaker 1: But I can't just go out recruit Old miss and 1556 01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,560 Speaker 1: take everyone I want out in Mississippi in Arkansas and 1557 01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:25,040 Speaker 1: you know, beat everyone in the SEC. Yeah. So I 1558 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:27,280 Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, you know, if I were ranking 1559 01:20:27,280 --> 01:20:29,080 Speaker 1: those jobs, I think that I think the Charger's job 1560 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:34,760 Speaker 1: will be number one. Um, I think, to me, I 1561 01:20:34,840 --> 01:20:38,120 Speaker 1: guess I'd go Jags too, but I might go Jets 1562 01:20:38,240 --> 01:20:43,599 Speaker 1: to maybe maybe Jags. I think it's similar. They both 1563 01:20:43,640 --> 01:20:46,320 Speaker 1: need a lot they both need a lot um. But 1564 01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,800 Speaker 1: there's no longer New England there to worry about. The 1565 01:20:48,920 --> 01:20:51,040 Speaker 1: bills are scary. The bills are a little scary. But 1566 01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:54,800 Speaker 1: can they can they sustain that? I bet they will? Um, 1567 01:20:55,960 --> 01:20:58,760 Speaker 1: Miami could turn into something. Yeah, but two it needs 1568 01:20:58,800 --> 01:21:01,200 Speaker 1: to hit, but they're gonna be much better roster. I'm 1569 01:21:01,240 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 1: not so all. I'm not either at all. Um. Yeah, 1570 01:21:05,000 --> 01:21:07,360 Speaker 1: I mean I think those two jobs will be after 1571 01:21:07,479 --> 01:21:10,839 Speaker 1: that and then maybe and they're similar. Jets and Jags 1572 01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:14,439 Speaker 1: are young quarterback, no expectations. If I can get this 1573 01:21:14,479 --> 01:21:17,479 Speaker 1: team to six and ten next year, that's progress, you know. Yeah, 1574 01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:20,320 Speaker 1: And then I'm you know what I think the Lions job. 1575 01:21:20,479 --> 01:21:27,280 Speaker 1: To me, here's why Aaron Rodgers isn't gonna be around forever. Minnesota. 1576 01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,920 Speaker 1: Minnesota is what Minnesota is. Kirk Cousins is just in. 1577 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:34,320 Speaker 1: Chicago is in the same boat that you are. Chicago's 1578 01:21:34,320 --> 01:21:36,680 Speaker 1: got nothing right now, right right. So I'm looking at 1579 01:21:36,720 --> 01:21:38,559 Speaker 1: that going, Okay, if if we do this right, if 1580 01:21:38,560 --> 01:21:40,720 Speaker 1: I go in and do this right two years from now, 1581 01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:43,479 Speaker 1: two years from now, even with Stafford, because I might 1582 01:21:43,520 --> 01:21:45,760 Speaker 1: have the best. You know, let's say Rogers starts, you know, 1583 01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:48,080 Speaker 1: he's started seven, he's the same boat the grim they 1584 01:21:48,080 --> 01:21:49,880 Speaker 1: just draft a quarterback the first round. He's the m 1585 01:21:49,960 --> 01:21:51,880 Speaker 1: v P. But he's still he's not gonna play to 1586 01:21:51,960 --> 01:21:53,240 Speaker 1: his four times. You know, we might be able to 1587 01:21:53,280 --> 01:21:55,240 Speaker 1: turn this around in two years. That's kind of what 1588 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: I thought with the Panthers last year, like when we 1589 01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 1: had this conversation one year ago, and they still might be. 1590 01:22:00,439 --> 01:22:03,240 Speaker 1: But like you look at the South, I bet the 1591 01:22:03,280 --> 01:22:05,160 Speaker 1: Panthers are the best team in the South in two 1592 01:22:05,240 --> 01:22:10,280 Speaker 1: thousand twenty two. Brady's gone, Ryan's gone, is gone. There's 1593 01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,720 Speaker 1: three old teams in that division, and the North is 1594 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:14,840 Speaker 1: kind of that way too. I mean in terms of quarterbacks, 1595 01:22:14,920 --> 01:22:17,560 Speaker 1: like student division has some young guys are gonna be 1596 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,200 Speaker 1: around a long time to deal with, you know what 1597 01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,719 Speaker 1: I mean, Like so and yeah, a lot of divisions 1598 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,800 Speaker 1: are but you look at like the South, They've got 1599 01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:27,479 Speaker 1: three old men that might all fall apart next year. 1600 01:22:27,479 --> 01:22:29,160 Speaker 1: And I'll be back, you know, right, I mean, the 1601 01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,320 Speaker 1: Panthers might win a division next year. And then you know, 1602 01:22:31,360 --> 01:22:33,200 Speaker 1: the Saints are a hundred million dollars over the cap, 1603 01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:38,960 Speaker 1: right right exactly? I mean, and the Falcons won four games. Yeah, 1604 01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:41,720 Speaker 1: so that's interesting. We'll see how those how these things 1605 01:22:41,800 --> 01:22:45,559 Speaker 1: play out. But obviously it's gonna be a hot topic 1606 01:22:45,640 --> 01:22:49,160 Speaker 1: here over the next over the next choose and stuff 1607 01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:51,479 Speaker 1: like that coming up this week too. Um. He is 1608 01:22:51,520 --> 01:22:53,760 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I'm Dale Lalli. You're listening to the Drive 1609 01:22:53,840 --> 01:22:56,519 Speaker 1: here on Steelers Nation Radio, and our Steelers playoff coverage 1610 01:22:56,600 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 1: is presented by FedEx and Ford. We'll be back to 1611 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:03,599 Speaker 1: finish up the show right after this. Your tunes about 1612 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,240 Speaker 1: Drive on your home of the Black and Goal Steelers 1613 01:23:07,400 --> 01:23:36,160 Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome back, our sent Our coverage of the 1614 01:23:36,160 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 1: Steelers playoffs are presented by FedEx and Ford and Matt 1615 01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:43,560 Speaker 1: The last time the Cleveland Browns were in the playoffs 1616 01:23:43,960 --> 01:23:47,680 Speaker 1: was two thousand and two. You had not been yet 1617 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:52,920 Speaker 1: hired by the Cleveland Browns many moons. Uh. They of 1618 01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:55,559 Speaker 1: course lost to the Steelers in the playoffs that year. 1619 01:23:55,760 --> 01:23:58,080 Speaker 1: I kind of a funny story about you've told that 1620 01:23:58,120 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 1: one before. Baker Mayfield seven years old. Um, friends still 1621 01:24:04,439 --> 01:24:10,840 Speaker 1: had two seasons left on TV. Rich Gannon was the 1622 01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,160 Speaker 1: m v P of the National Football League that year 1623 01:24:14,280 --> 01:24:20,120 Speaker 1: as a as a Raider the top movies Lord of 1624 01:24:20,160 --> 01:24:27,519 Speaker 1: the Rings, Yeah, Star Wars episode two, and the first 1625 01:24:27,880 --> 01:24:32,719 Speaker 1: Toby McGuire Spider Man movie, the first one. They've done 1626 01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:37,280 Speaker 1: what six of those things not with it's been rebooted 1627 01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,880 Speaker 1: and they've done three movies and it's coming gone and 1628 01:24:39,960 --> 01:24:44,120 Speaker 1: it's new and the new group has come into that. Wow. Um. Yeah. 1629 01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:48,439 Speaker 1: Some other things that happened in two thousand and two. Um, 1630 01:24:49,479 --> 01:24:54,519 Speaker 1: let's see here the the United States Department of Justice 1631 01:24:54,760 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 1: justice announcement will pursue a criminal investigation of Enron. Um. 1632 01:25:00,960 --> 01:25:03,920 Speaker 1: Let's see here, we've got uh who was the president? Then? 1633 01:25:03,920 --> 01:25:07,439 Speaker 1: I probably should know this off top George Bush. Yeah. Uh, 1634 01:25:08,120 --> 01:25:12,960 Speaker 1: we had the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake City, Utah. 1635 01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:19,360 Speaker 1: That's a long time ago. Yeah. Um, the Space Shuttle 1636 01:25:19,439 --> 01:25:24,000 Speaker 1: Columbia flies, the Hubble spacecraft, the Space Telescope Service mission. 1637 01:25:24,120 --> 01:25:28,680 Speaker 1: It's last before its disastrous sts one oh seven. Um, 1638 01:25:28,880 --> 01:25:35,280 Speaker 1: the US invaded Afghanistan that year. Um, let's see we 1639 01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:40,479 Speaker 1: had I mean, there has to be five players in 1640 01:25:40,560 --> 01:25:44,360 Speaker 1: the league that year that are still active, including Ben No, 1641 01:25:44,439 --> 01:25:48,400 Speaker 1: he wasn't active yet. He was college two. And that's 1642 01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,240 Speaker 1: about it. Brady might be it. Yeah, a kicker or 1643 01:25:51,280 --> 01:25:57,200 Speaker 1: something floating around still. Um. Fourteen year old Elizabeth Smart 1644 01:25:57,400 --> 01:25:59,920 Speaker 1: is kidnapped from her bedroom in Salt Lake City, Uta. 1645 01:26:00,160 --> 01:26:04,839 Speaker 1: She's rescued nine months later. Um, now she's like forty 1646 01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:10,680 Speaker 1: five kids and grandma or something, right, UM's I mean, 1647 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:14,960 Speaker 1: there's just the sniper and the belt the Beltway sniper 1648 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,160 Speaker 1: if you remember that, that was a that was a 1649 01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,560 Speaker 1: thing back then. He said, guy, somebody riding in his 1650 01:26:19,640 --> 01:26:21,960 Speaker 1: trunk and shooting people at gas stations in the belt 1651 01:26:22,400 --> 01:26:25,479 Speaker 1: the Washington belt Way. Uh. The Congress of the United 1652 01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,000 Speaker 1: States passed the Joint Resolution authorizing the President to use 1653 01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:32,200 Speaker 1: the United States Armed Forces as he deems necessary and 1654 01:26:32,240 --> 01:26:38,040 Speaker 1: appropriate against Iraq. Wow, this is a long I mean, 1655 01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,639 Speaker 1: this is a long time got together playoffs and Browns 1656 01:26:41,680 --> 01:26:43,719 Speaker 1: fans deserves better. I mean, they're a good fan base. 1657 01:26:44,400 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 1: The world's better when they're in it. I'm sure you're 1658 01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna find some more things that are mind blowing. Was 1659 01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:53,800 Speaker 1: the what was the thoughts like with you guys that 1660 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:56,920 Speaker 1: were covering the team about the Browns. Was it, this 1661 01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:58,760 Speaker 1: is an up and coming team that we should be 1662 01:26:58,840 --> 01:27:01,960 Speaker 1: fearful of in two thousand two. Yeah, because they were 1663 01:27:02,000 --> 01:27:06,439 Speaker 1: in the fourth year back. Yeah, it looked like they 1664 01:27:06,479 --> 01:27:09,280 Speaker 1: were maybe building a little something there. I would imagine 1665 01:27:09,320 --> 01:27:11,200 Speaker 1: that was the thought. Tim Couch got hurt he so 1666 01:27:11,280 --> 01:27:13,000 Speaker 1: he didn't play in that playoff game. It was Kelly. 1667 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:16,720 Speaker 1: It was Kelly Holcom. Oh right, okay, remember that right? Um, 1668 01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:19,240 Speaker 1: But then they lost that game. I mean, they were 1669 01:27:19,320 --> 01:27:22,320 Speaker 1: beating the Steelers. Tom Tom Reid did a great profile 1670 01:27:22,360 --> 01:27:24,360 Speaker 1: of that game on our site and talked to a 1671 01:27:24,439 --> 01:27:26,840 Speaker 1: bunch of different people from both sides of the of 1672 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:31,280 Speaker 1: the game. Um, and you know, Mike Logan had a 1673 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 1: big interception in that game that kind of turned to 1674 01:27:33,520 --> 01:27:36,680 Speaker 1: the tide. He also ripped his knee up on the play. Um. 1675 01:27:37,240 --> 01:27:40,360 Speaker 1: But uh yeah, and then I mean the Browns were 1676 01:27:40,400 --> 01:27:43,479 Speaker 1: winning that game. And everyone that was in the Browns 1677 01:27:43,560 --> 01:27:46,880 Speaker 1: building that I was there two years later. I thought 1678 01:27:46,960 --> 01:27:50,240 Speaker 1: that they should absolutely won that game. And Dennis Northcott 1679 01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:52,559 Speaker 1: was not a popular fellow. Like he had a huge drop, 1680 01:27:53,080 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 1: a huge drop. I mean if they convert that third down. Uh, 1681 01:27:56,160 --> 01:27:58,839 Speaker 1: and he was wide open, and I remember I remember 1682 01:27:58,880 --> 01:28:00,640 Speaker 1: the play like it was right around field on the 1683 01:28:00,680 --> 01:28:03,080 Speaker 1: brown sideline. He goes up, he had to jump a 1684 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:04,519 Speaker 1: little bit to catch the ball, but he had it 1685 01:28:04,560 --> 01:28:07,240 Speaker 1: in his hands and dropped it. I mean the Browns 1686 01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:09,160 Speaker 1: folks think that would have been the game. Yeah, I 1687 01:28:09,200 --> 01:28:12,000 Speaker 1: don't remember that. The Specifics. You know, that was the 1688 01:28:12,160 --> 01:28:15,200 Speaker 1: Antoine Randa Well had a punt return touchdown in the game. Uh. 1689 01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:18,719 Speaker 1: The Steelers scored laid on a christophilmu Mala Falla scores 1690 01:28:19,200 --> 01:28:21,080 Speaker 1: and then they get the two point conversion after that. 1691 01:28:22,360 --> 01:28:25,160 Speaker 1: I mean just crazy term event. I mean they were down, 1692 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:27,720 Speaker 1: it was it was over, it was done. Um, it 1693 01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:29,800 Speaker 1: was like people going home time, right, And that was 1694 01:28:30,640 --> 01:28:32,200 Speaker 1: a lot of people left at half time, right like 1695 01:28:32,280 --> 01:28:34,600 Speaker 1: this is a blowout. Yeah, and Tom actually talked to 1696 01:28:34,680 --> 01:28:37,920 Speaker 1: some fans who had left that game at halftime because um, 1697 01:28:38,680 --> 01:28:41,000 Speaker 1: you know it just wasn't Yeah, there was just no hope, 1698 01:28:42,560 --> 01:28:45,720 Speaker 1: you know. So they looked like an upstart organization at 1699 01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:48,240 Speaker 1: that they did. They led that game, and it was 1700 01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:51,200 Speaker 1: seventeen seven and a half. They took seven lead on 1701 01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:55,240 Speaker 1: a Dennis north cut touchdown early in the third quarter. Uh, 1702 01:28:55,320 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 1: I think he was all on that team, was like 1703 01:28:57,080 --> 01:29:00,519 Speaker 1: north Cutt and Kevin Johnson and well him Green was 1704 01:29:00,600 --> 01:29:02,439 Speaker 1: the running back. And yeah, I mean so, I mean 1705 01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,920 Speaker 1: they were Andre Davis again. It was ten seventeen left. 1706 01:29:07,479 --> 01:29:09,280 Speaker 1: It was thirty three twenty one on a on a 1707 01:29:09,439 --> 01:29:12,640 Speaker 1: Wolcomb touchdown past Andre Davis. Then the Steelers get a 1708 01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:15,360 Speaker 1: touchdown pass from Maddox to Hines Ward h to make 1709 01:29:15,400 --> 01:29:20,120 Speaker 1: it thirty. If mala Falla scores, fum Fuma should say 1710 01:29:20,160 --> 01:29:22,120 Speaker 1: scores with fifty four seconds left. I was actually on 1711 01:29:22,200 --> 01:29:24,760 Speaker 1: the field at that point. I was in the in 1712 01:29:24,840 --> 01:29:27,320 Speaker 1: that end zone when he scored. Uh. And then they 1713 01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:31,720 Speaker 1: get the the Jeremy Tuman through the through the through 1714 01:29:31,760 --> 01:29:34,800 Speaker 1: the two point conversion pass. Uh. He caught it from 1715 01:29:35,240 --> 01:29:37,559 Speaker 1: Antoine Randall. Well was it the little trick to play 1716 01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:42,320 Speaker 1: um quarterback in that game? Tommy Maddox. So Ben came 1717 01:29:42,400 --> 01:29:45,360 Speaker 1: the year two years after that. Yeah, I'm thinking because 1718 01:29:45,400 --> 01:29:47,280 Speaker 1: I was in Cleveland. They scored him twenty two to 1719 01:29:47,479 --> 01:29:54,560 Speaker 1: nine in the fourth quarters. But I mean, remember the 1720 01:29:54,600 --> 01:29:57,439 Speaker 1: game obviously, all that well, but there's something about learning 1721 01:29:57,479 --> 01:29:59,439 Speaker 1: how to win in the playoffs and brings us back 1722 01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,240 Speaker 1: to this, brings us back to this one because this 1723 01:30:01,360 --> 01:30:04,560 Speaker 1: Browns team has none of that to fall back on, 1724 01:30:04,960 --> 01:30:06,840 Speaker 1: none of it. No they don't. I mean, there's no 1725 01:30:07,720 --> 01:30:10,719 Speaker 1: surprised to me. They haven't got a center, a middle 1726 01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 1: linebacker that's an eight year veteran that has two rings, 1727 01:30:13,479 --> 01:30:15,360 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, free safety, you know, some 1728 01:30:15,479 --> 01:30:18,160 Speaker 1: kind of Jarvis Landry's their guy that they He's not 1729 01:30:18,280 --> 01:30:22,200 Speaker 1: never one any thing in Miami. He's been to the playoffs. 1730 01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:24,839 Speaker 1: That doesn't know what it's like to win in the playoffs. 1731 01:30:25,520 --> 01:30:27,439 Speaker 1: I know we're right up against it. But here's here's 1732 01:30:27,479 --> 01:30:29,920 Speaker 1: something that's totally unrelated. It's gonna make you feel really old. 1733 01:30:30,080 --> 01:30:31,720 Speaker 1: Trade Lance is gonna be a first round pick. The 1734 01:30:31,880 --> 01:30:34,360 Speaker 1: quarterback from the North Dakota State going to be the 1735 01:30:34,520 --> 01:30:40,400 Speaker 1: first NFL player born in the two thousand's. There's none 1736 01:30:40,520 --> 01:30:42,240 Speaker 1: right now, you know. And he's gonna be the youngest 1737 01:30:42,240 --> 01:30:45,599 Speaker 1: guy in this draft. It's it's it's time flies by 1738 01:30:45,680 --> 01:30:48,920 Speaker 1: quickly and so does this show. So for my partner 1739 01:30:49,160 --> 01:30:52,280 Speaker 1: Matt Williamson, for Jacob here on site keeping us on 1740 01:30:52,400 --> 01:30:54,479 Speaker 1: the air, I'm Dale Lally. Of course, our Steelers and 1741 01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:57,040 Speaker 1: Nation Radio coverage of the Steelers playoffs is presented by 1742 01:30:57,080 --> 01:31:00,200 Speaker 1: fed Ex and Ford. As I've said numerous times over 1743 01:31:00,240 --> 01:31:02,559 Speaker 1: the question of the show, we will be back all 1744 01:31:02,640 --> 01:31:05,040 Speaker 1: this week bringing all the playoff coverage here. Maybe we'll 1745 01:31:05,040 --> 01:31:06,920 Speaker 1: talk even more about that game down the road here, 1746 01:31:07,680 --> 01:31:09,240 Speaker 1: but that's going to do it for the show today. 1747 01:31:09,240 --> 01:31:11,400 Speaker 1: We thank you for listening to this edition of The 1748 01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:13,360 Speaker 1: Drive on Steelers Nation Radio.