WEBVTT - #100 - Kristian Bush from Sugarland 0:00:01.040 --> 0:00:02.720 All right, this is a a very special episode for us, 0:00:02.720 --> 0:00:06.960 episode one hundred. I always said from the infancy stages 0:00:07.000 --> 0:00:09.119 of this podcast, and once we hit one hundred, we 0:00:09.160 --> 0:00:12.520 are officially a real podcast. So after this episode concludes 0:00:12.520 --> 0:00:15.400 with Christian Bush, we will be a real podcast. And 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.799 I thank you all for listening to this thing and 0:00:17.840 --> 0:00:21.759 making it big and relatively speaking big and might deep. 0:00:22.800 --> 0:00:26.759 Good job. My friend been been at it since the beginning. 0:00:27.920 --> 0:00:30.720 I bought all the equipment, didn't tell the company what 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:34.120 we're doing it. Mike set it up, been in two 0:00:34.120 --> 0:00:37.040 houses and here we are episode one. How didn't get 0:00:37.080 --> 0:00:44.080 your hands up? We're about to start with a Christian 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.520 in a second. But I just want to say thank 0:00:46.560 --> 0:00:48.199 you so much for listening. We're trying to get on 0:00:48.240 --> 0:00:52.000 songwriters and producers and artists and have our long conversations 0:00:52.000 --> 0:00:53.639 just can't hear anywhere else. I think we've been able 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:55.880 to do that. And check out just scroll through and 0:00:55.960 --> 0:01:00.120 check out Mary Moore's, Chris Stapleton and Ross Comperiman and 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:04.480 Shane McNally. There are so many there, just stories up stories. 0:01:04.959 --> 0:01:08.319 We've tried to bring that to you. Even John Oates 0:01:08.480 --> 0:01:11.319 from Hall of Notes. You know, we've had a John Mayer, 0:01:11.600 --> 0:01:12.959 a lot, a lot of ones that aren't in the 0:01:13.000 --> 0:01:15.360 format too. So I want to say that on the 0:01:15.440 --> 0:01:17.680 Nashville Podcast Network and here we are, Episode one hundred, 0:01:17.680 --> 0:01:19.679 we also have a network of shows. I like to 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.840 encourage you to check out Good Company with Jake Owen. 0:01:23.520 --> 0:01:25.319 I like to encourage you to check out Geeking Out 0:01:25.319 --> 0:01:28.280 with Christian Bush, which is not even about music really, 0:01:28.319 --> 0:01:31.840 it's just about people geeking out over things. Whiskey ref 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.880 Raff with the guest from Whiskey Riff to a show 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:37.520 from Chicago about country music has the fans perspective. So 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:39.360 thank you for letting us do that special music for 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.680 episode one hundred. Although I might keep this and I'll 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:43.160 like to you like I kind of fee all and 0:01:43.200 --> 0:01:46.120 I love that get your hands up. Here we are 0:01:46.280 --> 0:01:51.240 Episode one hundred. Here we are, Episode one hundred. I 0:01:52.080 --> 0:01:58.040 didn't know would be so much funding. Episode one hundred. 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.960 All right, I'm gonna in this down. We're gonna start 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:04.000 with Christian Bush. But appreciate everybody for listening. And Mike, 0:02:04.080 --> 0:02:07.640 let's keep this music, okay, because I feel like eating 0:02:09.800 --> 0:02:15.239 something human. It feels like a zombie movie. Alright, Christian Bush, 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:19.280 Episode hundre. Here we go. I welcome to the biggest 0:02:19.280 --> 0:02:22.680 episode in the history of our podcast. For two reasons, yeah, 0:02:22.720 --> 0:02:27.359 for two reasons. One, it's our one episode. Yes, oh 0:02:27.400 --> 0:02:31.960 my god. We were going to do some sort of 0:02:32.000 --> 0:02:35.000 special for one hundred. This is honest, God truth, and 0:02:35.480 --> 0:02:38.040 I said, well, Christian is going to come up in 0:02:38.080 --> 0:02:41.040 the next few weeks. So we saved episode one hundred 0:02:41.040 --> 0:02:44.160 because I wanted it to be you, and that's why. 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.120 So it's all. And I've always said a car or something, 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:54.360 no does everybody in the room is a thing. Not 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:56.760 so much. But you can have my hat. I guess 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.079 we can trade hats. So it's are I've always said 0:03:01.080 --> 0:03:04.200 to myself, you're not a legitimate podcast that has proven 0:03:04.400 --> 0:03:05.919 that you will stay the test of time until you 0:03:06.000 --> 0:03:09.280 hit one hundred episodes can be, but you needed a 0:03:09.360 --> 0:03:11.360 hundred so people trust that you were going to be there. 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:14.280 And so we have over a hundred hours of content 0:03:14.440 --> 0:03:17.959 of artists, producers, songwriters, and this is our one hundred. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:21.120 So we're officially today. We're really yes, that's right, we 0:03:21.200 --> 0:03:26.240 are a real podcast. Everyone yep, So that decide. I'm 0:03:26.320 --> 0:03:28.320 very happy you're here. Mr Christian. Well, thank you for 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.120 having me, but so much to talk about, and I 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:34.040 feel like, why don't we start with today? Because Christian 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.600 has a new podcast that's up now and we'll get 0:03:37.640 --> 0:03:40.960 to that, and we're gonna get to life. But why 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:43.760 don't we just start with today and let's talk about 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:47.800 sugar Land coming back. So I had mentioned to you 0:03:47.880 --> 0:03:49.720 that it was difficult for me to interview you and 0:03:49.800 --> 0:03:52.360 Jennifer because I just knew too much. I knew you 0:03:52.360 --> 0:03:55.080 guys were coming back together before, and I'm a good 0:03:55.080 --> 0:03:58.000 secret keeper. Yeah, but we'll back story that. Okay, I'll 0:03:58.000 --> 0:04:01.920 back story for you. And this microphone the right one. O. UM, 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:06.800 I remember the moment where uh, my phone blew up 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:13.240 because um, people and that were listeners, and especially people 0:04:13.240 --> 0:04:15.080 in the industry knew that you and I knew each 0:04:15.120 --> 0:04:17.880 other because I you invited me to write on your 0:04:17.560 --> 0:04:21.680 your first record, and you had said something on the 0:04:21.720 --> 0:04:23.680 air about, you know what, why don't we bring sugar 0:04:23.760 --> 0:04:29.719 Land back together together? And that was like a week 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:34.160 after I had gotten a phone call that said, hey, so, 0:04:34.440 --> 0:04:37.440 if by chance, would this be something you'd be interested 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.000 in from Jennifer and and her people. And I was 0:04:41.080 --> 0:04:44.360 like huh, and she said, look, do you can't tell 0:04:44.400 --> 0:04:48.000 anybody that I've called you. And the first thing that 0:04:48.040 --> 0:04:51.080 I thought to myself was, oh, my god, they think 0:04:51.080 --> 0:04:55.279 I told Bobby, And well, that's what I was worried 0:04:55.720 --> 0:04:59.240 because I have like five friends on Earth, and I 0:04:59.240 --> 0:05:01.839 would consider you one of them. But I'm not sure 0:05:01.880 --> 0:05:04.640 I would have disclosed that to you even if we 0:05:04.640 --> 0:05:09.560 were friends. I did not, but I immediately thought that 0:05:09.600 --> 0:05:13.960 I was. Oh. So I called my people and say, 0:05:14.000 --> 0:05:17.080 can you call Bobby's people and tell him that he's 0:05:17.160 --> 0:05:22.479 too close to the truth. He's flying deep throat, is 0:05:22.520 --> 0:05:26.280 too close to Watergate. You know, I'm random. And because 0:05:26.320 --> 0:05:28.719 I got a call that day from Tom, who we 0:05:28.760 --> 0:05:31.800 both worked with, and Tom says, hey, can you come 0:05:31.839 --> 0:05:36.680 to the office, I said, yeah, sure, I really get 0:05:37.200 --> 0:05:41.200 called in. He just didn't want to tie text anything 0:05:41.360 --> 0:05:43.520 or he goes, hey, I need to not talk about 0:05:43.520 --> 0:05:45.880 sugar Land. So I think it's a great idea. What 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.600 if we got him back together for one show? Hey, 0:05:49.080 --> 0:05:51.279 we need to not talk about sugar Land because they're 0:05:51.279 --> 0:05:54.080 talking about sugar Land. And I was like, oh, I'm 0:05:54.080 --> 0:05:58.920 out nothing. It was completely random and rare, and I 0:05:59.000 --> 0:06:02.000 just felt my heart like they should be together again, 0:06:02.520 --> 0:06:05.039 and I'm if for everybody listening that thinks maybe there 0:06:05.400 --> 0:06:08.400 was nothing up. No, but I love your thank you. 0:06:09.200 --> 0:06:12.120 Apparently it has the ability to will things into existence. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:14.640 So I'd like you to say some other things on 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.120 the on the air, like you know, still the same 0:06:17.200 --> 0:06:21.000 number one record. I feel still the same should be 0:06:21.000 --> 0:06:24.039 a number one record. So I was trying to think 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.760 back because I don't know how we know, how we 0:06:27.880 --> 0:06:30.839 actually met met? Okay, I do, I do? I do. 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:35.719 I loved Southern your record, That's what I want. What 0:06:35.760 --> 0:06:37.640 I felt was because I didn't know you. I felt 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:39.520 like Trailer Hitch was one of those songs they screwed 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:42.000 up on Big Time because it was so good and 0:06:42.160 --> 0:06:45.440 radio didn't give it the shot that it deserved. And 0:06:45.560 --> 0:06:49.720 I remember just screaming about radio just I couldn't believe 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:53.800 that that was not a massive hit because it was 0:06:53.880 --> 0:06:59.000 so good, and I was a little bit upset everybody, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:02.320 and I said, hey, why aren't we helping this song? 0:07:02.400 --> 0:07:04.479 It's so good. I didn't know you. We never met, 0:07:05.520 --> 0:07:08.000 and that was the first time that someone said, hey, 0:07:08.000 --> 0:07:10.600 you would you like to meet Christian And I was like, yeah, 0:07:11.800 --> 0:07:15.000 sings and I didn't know came up came to the studio. 0:07:16.000 --> 0:07:17.600 We talk, We talked a bit, but a lot of 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.200 people come to the studio. I talked a lot of people, 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:21.640 and I don't ever even do anything outside of my bubble, 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:24.640 and uh, I say, hey, we should get together, and 0:07:24.640 --> 0:07:26.320 never do I follow that up because I never think 0:07:26.320 --> 0:07:28.120 it's real. But for some reason I felt like you 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.400 were real, Like you like, hey, you want to just 0:07:30.520 --> 0:07:34.240 come over, we'll do something. We'll right. And so you 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:37.239 were back in town because your permanent residences in Atlanta, 0:07:37.360 --> 0:07:40.320 your main residence, and you're like, hey, I'm not gonna place, 0:07:40.360 --> 0:07:43.000 come over. Well, I was writing a record and I 0:07:43.040 --> 0:07:46.239 went over and we wrote every day is a good day. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.880 Every day it is a good day, and that's how. 0:07:48.960 --> 0:07:50.200 And I was like, I have to be friends with 0:07:50.200 --> 0:07:52.320 that dude. He has three iPads going seven guitars to 0:07:52.480 --> 0:07:54.520 mandolin's his whif he's playing with his feet on a 0:07:54.560 --> 0:07:56.480 poco ball. It was the craziest thing I've ever seen. 0:07:57.000 --> 0:07:58.680 He's crazy, like I have it in a different way. 0:07:59.080 --> 0:08:01.240 And then I thought, yeah, we should be friend. And 0:08:01.280 --> 0:08:04.160 then since then we've actually kept up a relationship. I mean, 0:08:04.240 --> 0:08:06.000 I don't live here, so I can't. I don't have 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:08.880 a whole lot of, you know, time, but I also 0:08:08.880 --> 0:08:11.080 I'm not here very often. I know you're not, but 0:08:11.160 --> 0:08:14.920 I do appreciate it. You know. It's I've been doing 0:08:14.960 --> 0:08:16.640 this for a very long time, and it's very rare 0:08:16.680 --> 0:08:18.920 that you find like minded people within the same work 0:08:18.960 --> 0:08:22.840 that you do or and like minded for me also 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:27.920 includes this um passion would drive of things that you 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.120 want to do. You know, It's like I wake up 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:32.199 in the morning and I feel like there's just not 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.319 enough time left to write all the songs I want 0:08:34.320 --> 0:08:36.280 to write, or to do all the things I want 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:39.040 to do, and I kind of get that off of 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.480 you when I'm around you, Like I get that feeling 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.000 like and I may be wrong, I don't know if 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.160 I'm being presumptuous, but you got a lot you know 0:08:47.280 --> 0:08:51.080 that you're that you're it feels like in my imagination 0:08:51.080 --> 0:08:53.240 that you want to jump into Like if it was 0:08:53.240 --> 0:08:56.199 a movie time, you'd be like, yeah, let's make a movie. Hey, 0:08:56.200 --> 0:08:57.880 you want to go? You know, do we have enough 0:08:57.880 --> 0:09:00.679 money with Let's let's buy a ticket on SpaceX, you know, 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:03.760 let's you know whatever it is. My therapist, you nail me, 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:06.760 and I kind of but I like that about and I, 0:09:07.200 --> 0:09:11.360 you know, I'm super suspicious of human beings after doing 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.280 this long enough that not everyone's intentions are out in 0:09:14.320 --> 0:09:17.520 front of them. They're always a little bit guarded, and 0:09:17.559 --> 0:09:19.800 your intentions are always in front. So I appreciate that 0:09:19.840 --> 0:09:22.960 about you. You know, it's funny too, as I was 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:24.800 mentioning to you before we started, can you turn the 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:26.200 air down a bit? It's a little hot near and 0:09:26.280 --> 0:09:27.960 Mr Bush isn't a coat, and I want to make 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.640 sure I'm in my French provincial outfit. To me a 0:09:30.720 --> 0:09:33.880 vest under a nice jacket. Well it's actually stitched into 0:09:33.920 --> 0:09:35.640 the jail. What the jacket with the vest built in? 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:39.240 How about that? Very lazily French. And then there's a 0:09:39.240 --> 0:09:41.839 little French up here. We French. What did you do 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.640 today to be so dressed? You know? And look I 0:09:44.760 --> 0:09:47.400 I even put on my leopard glass, my kind of 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:52.320 leopard breathing glasses. Um. I was helping Tyler Farr pick 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.040 songs for his new record that I'm producing, and I 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:58.560 thought that, um, the way I would intimidate the song 0:09:58.640 --> 0:10:00.920 pictures that I'm the the side of the table was 0:10:00.960 --> 0:10:05.559 to bring my pencils and my pencil sharpener and dressed 0:10:05.559 --> 0:10:08.320 this way today. This is the opposite of Tyler farr 0:10:09.080 --> 0:10:12.960 And and and just quietly sharpened my pencils to a 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:15.160 fine point while I looked at their songs as they 0:10:15.160 --> 0:10:18.960 pitched me crappy songs and then and then yeah, I 0:10:19.000 --> 0:10:22.120 just needed I needed something today to intimidate, because I'm 0:10:22.160 --> 0:10:26.400 the least intimidating person on earth in my imagination when 0:10:26.400 --> 0:10:28.240 I woke up that this is this is what would help. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:31.640 It's crazy and cool that you're working with Tyler, because 0:10:31.640 --> 0:10:34.800 I like Tyler a lot. And I feel like because 0:10:35.080 --> 0:10:37.520 now I kind of know you as a producer because 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:41.760 a Lindsay and you know, you did a wildly successful 0:10:41.800 --> 0:10:44.680 album and it's not even started to be a successful 0:10:44.679 --> 0:10:48.240 it's going to be. And you did it with at 0:10:48.240 --> 0:10:50.040 a time with Lindsay when they did have a single out, 0:10:50.080 --> 0:10:51.920 like they did an odd thing and said go make 0:10:51.920 --> 0:10:53.880 a record, and you and Lindsay go make a record 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:56.760 and there was no single plan, there was nothing. Yeah, 0:10:56.880 --> 0:11:00.200 you made a record with going into it with out 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:03.360 of sound a sign to you, right, And I think 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:07.160 that's maybe where I can help when it's an artist 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:08.960 and you did with her, and I was you know, 0:11:09.520 --> 0:11:11.640 Lindy and I are still close, but we were really 0:11:11.679 --> 0:11:14.560 closed in Apparently I was the very last to know. 0:11:15.520 --> 0:11:19.040 Oh really as her producer, you know, and I live 0:11:19.080 --> 0:11:20.920 here and you and I knew each other, but I 0:11:20.960 --> 0:11:23.880 had no idea. And so I'm in there like helping 0:11:23.880 --> 0:11:26.200 her pick songs and like, oh, I hear you're writing this. 0:11:26.280 --> 0:11:28.040 I don't know, what do you think about this? You know? 0:11:28.280 --> 0:11:31.760 And I just never brought up the question, like in 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:35.880 relationship songs that sounds like you're feeling good about a relationship. 0:11:36.200 --> 0:11:39.760 I never asked what relationship. So finally she had to 0:11:39.800 --> 0:11:43.000 actually stop me and go, hey, I just want you 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:44.920 to know. I know you don't listen to the radio 0:11:45.000 --> 0:11:47.360 often and because in Atlanta we don't get your show. 0:11:48.160 --> 0:11:52.240 Uh and um, She's like, I want you to know 0:11:52.280 --> 0:11:54.520 that you know, Bobby and I are dating. I was like, 0:11:54.880 --> 0:11:58.400 you're freaking kidding me for a while and she was 0:11:58.400 --> 0:12:01.560 like no, really, I was like, well, thanks, I appreciate it. 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.599 So which songs am I ascribing to this? You like 0:12:05.720 --> 0:12:08.880 to think of me in the head and you have 0:12:09.080 --> 0:12:11.400 right now she has at the time of us recording, 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:17.040 this her highest song ever with Criminal. Yeah, it's a 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:21.400 twenty nine right now, her highest song ever. Yes, and 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.480 I remember hearing the work text and then after she 0:12:23.600 --> 0:12:25.120 was done with you, I was like, oh yeah, Christians 0:12:25.160 --> 0:12:29.280 adding a whole live bit. It's like, too brilliant. It's 0:12:29.320 --> 0:12:32.200 really cool to see you in that element. I've been 0:12:32.240 --> 0:12:35.520 able to see all the sides except the dad's side. 0:12:35.679 --> 0:12:37.400 Have me as your kid, and then I'll have it all. 0:12:37.559 --> 0:12:39.600 I'll know at all. Let me come living every one 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:41.320 of your kids and I get it. My kids are 0:12:41.320 --> 0:12:45.240 pretty cool. Yeah, yeah, well that's okay. I got sidetracked 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.800 by far. You are doing Tyler's I'm doing Tyler's record 0:12:47.840 --> 0:12:50.720 with him right now, and Matson and Budlines record. Pardon 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.000 Who's uh? Who's the duo? You did? Uh? Walker McGuire. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.160 I didn't produce that, but I wrote their song that's 0:12:58.160 --> 0:13:00.400 on the radio and an that's what it is called. Okay, 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:01.839 that's why you put it in the force. I was 0:13:02.080 --> 0:13:04.600 in that little box. I was just it was I'm 0:13:04.640 --> 0:13:07.040 having to pinch myself recently. You know, you you do 0:13:07.120 --> 0:13:09.959 this work for so long and you have to get 0:13:10.000 --> 0:13:13.800 no so often that there are times in which things 0:13:13.840 --> 0:13:16.640 fall into place, much like you know you see actors 0:13:16.679 --> 0:13:19.920 on movies, like suddenly they look like they're super hot 0:13:19.920 --> 0:13:22.240 because they're in five movies at the same time. Well 0:13:22.240 --> 0:13:24.200 that wasn't really the case. They made the movies at 0:13:24.200 --> 0:13:27.200 different times, and the studios just accidentally released them all 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:30.360 at the same time. And suddenly, you know, Iron Man 0:13:30.600 --> 0:13:34.760 is Robert Downe Jr. Has a comeback or something. Well, 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:37.880 you know what, you know, all this stuff happened, and 0:13:38.480 --> 0:13:40.880 now it wasn't didn't happen on top of each other. 0:13:41.679 --> 0:13:45.200 It just released on top of each other. And I 0:13:45.240 --> 0:13:49.199 have a very difficult time taking the moment to stick 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:52.400 of candles into a cake and light them and then 0:13:52.400 --> 0:13:55.920 blow them out and take a moment to acknowledge what's happening. 0:13:56.320 --> 0:13:58.600 So I've been trying to do that this year a 0:13:58.600 --> 0:14:00.640 little bit, and things have been all in on top 0:14:00.679 --> 0:14:02.720 of each other. I mean, I'm just so proud of 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:07.120 the work that that Lindsey did and and and edited 0:14:07.200 --> 0:14:09.400 with her. And then it's Walker McGuire single. I had 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:11.480 no idea. I mean, we wrote that in forty five 0:14:11.559 --> 0:14:16.360 minutes at high noon on a Tuesday at a lake somewhere. 0:14:16.760 --> 0:14:19.760 I didn't even know these guys, and I loved the song. 0:14:20.040 --> 0:14:21.920 But then they decided to record it. And I'm not 0:14:21.960 --> 0:14:25.000 sure I've had a song on the charts with someone else. 0:14:25.040 --> 0:14:29.480 I didn't. I wasn't in the band at the same 0:14:29.480 --> 0:14:32.920 time that surely, and now's we're back in the things 0:14:32.920 --> 0:14:34.560 that all these songs are kind of hitting at the 0:14:34.600 --> 0:14:38.080 same time. And I was giggling the other day because 0:14:38.120 --> 0:14:42.600 someone said, Okay, so it's either you or you that's 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:44.360 going to be the most added this week. And I 0:14:44.360 --> 0:14:47.040 was like, what do you mean? And I was like, 0:14:47.040 --> 0:14:50.200 Oh my gosh, are you kidding me? So I've always 0:14:50.200 --> 0:14:52.840 wondered about these guys who live here in town and 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:54.880 they have like nine number ones in a year or 0:14:54.960 --> 0:15:00.280 something something astronomical. I'm like, how does that happen? Um? 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:02.840 Now I now at least know what kind of the 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.120 storm looks like. I don't know if it's the perfect storm. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:09.080 I hope there are many perfect storms to come. Man. 0:15:09.800 --> 0:15:13.200 I guess I missed the first round of sugar Land. 0:15:14.320 --> 0:15:16.440 I didn't miss it as a fan because I went 0:15:16.480 --> 0:15:19.280 to a Sugarland show even as a fan better, Yeah, 0:15:19.280 --> 0:15:21.240 but I missed it in Laurel, Arkansas. I went and 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:24.480 watch Sugarland. I wouldn't watched you guys play with Kenny 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:28.440 So and that's where I saw all the excitement and 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.240 jumping around, and it's I mean, it's a lot, That's 0:15:32.240 --> 0:15:34.920 what I remember, Yeah, very much, so, lots of bodies 0:15:34.920 --> 0:15:38.680 moving around and so. But I was a sugar Land 0:15:38.760 --> 0:15:41.320 fan more so than a Kenney fan, frankly at the time. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:44.960 So I went to the show and before I moved 0:15:44.960 --> 0:15:49.400 to Nashville. You guys weren't sugar Land, right, We never 0:15:49.480 --> 0:15:52.560 crossed paths, right. So the first time we crossed paths 0:15:52.560 --> 0:15:54.840 was you doing your solo record, which I think is 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:56.800 cool too because I liked you for you. So when 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.880 everybody gets out to say be my friend, just remember 0:16:01.000 --> 0:16:03.840 I liked you for you, just like Blessing do the souls. 0:16:04.280 --> 0:16:08.240 She likes me for me. You remember those guys? Did 0:16:08.240 --> 0:16:09.960 you know those guys? I did not know them, but 0:16:10.000 --> 0:16:11.840 I know this. Let me talk about this for a second. 0:16:11.960 --> 0:16:15.080 So sleep number. Oh yes, So I did this podcast 0:16:15.080 --> 0:16:17.440 in my bedrooms actually, which about the way we have 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.480 to like shut the door and Michael, people will come 0:16:19.560 --> 0:16:23.200 up here because it's weird my bedroom doors open, but 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.040 I guess they do. See the old sleep number bed 0:16:25.080 --> 0:16:27.640 in there. I have a sleep number because for me. 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:30.720 I do struggle with sleep. 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So I don't really know 0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:29.880 the origin of you you guys coming together. She really 0:17:29.960 --> 0:17:35.399 was this interesting beginning, you know. Um yeah, if you 0:17:35.440 --> 0:17:39.639 put it in time. Um. I was signed to a 0:17:39.640 --> 0:17:41.639 record deal in Atlantic Records in New York as a 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:45.119 rock act, like a folk rock act called Billy Pilgrim, 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.320 and we were kind of a critics darling and for 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.919 us we were a huge success. But compared to our 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:55.159 label mates, which were like Matchbox twenty was signed the 0:17:55.200 --> 0:17:58.520 same time we were, and Hootie and the Blowfish and 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:04.600 and I uh ed Roland and the Soul and those guys, 0:18:04.720 --> 0:18:06.040 we were all at you know. It was all out 0:18:06.040 --> 0:18:11.160 of the Southeast at the exact same time. And our band, um, 0:18:11.200 --> 0:18:13.919 you know, Rolling Stone loved it. The review of our 0:18:13.920 --> 0:18:17.280 first album was in the Kurt Coobing issue when he died. 0:18:18.359 --> 0:18:20.920 So if you ever want to go read my first 0:18:20.960 --> 0:18:24.800 band's first national review, it wasn't that issue. Yeah you 0:18:24.840 --> 0:18:34.159 can find it. Oh yeah, there you go. My hair, 0:18:38.680 --> 0:18:46.879 who's insomniac? G's what's the vocal situation here? That's me singing, 0:18:47.280 --> 0:18:51.800 and my partner Andrew was also a singer, and that's 0:18:51.800 --> 0:18:53.800 my friend Ellis Paul there in the background. I'm going, 0:18:55.000 --> 0:19:00.040 but I'm the lead singer on this again. Down the 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:09.480 Black Hands, sad the textures? Do you sing? Do you sing? Different? 0:19:09.520 --> 0:19:11.359 And a little bit. I mean I was twenty two, 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.560 you know, but I've always had a raspy quality of 0:19:15.560 --> 0:19:19.080 my voice. But I was worried that country music wasn't 0:19:19.080 --> 0:19:22.920 gonna take it. It wasn't gonna accept my raspy voice. 0:19:22.920 --> 0:19:25.320 And at the time, Billy Pilgrim was kind of in 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:28.639 its waning years. We had had a really pretty good 0:19:28.720 --> 0:19:31.720 run of it, you know, hundreds of thousands of records, 0:19:31.840 --> 0:19:34.760 which for us was giant, And we've been on tour 0:19:34.800 --> 0:19:36.600 around the world. Like I we opened from all of 0:19:36.640 --> 0:19:38.840 Ethadge for a couple of years, and we had opened 0:19:38.840 --> 0:19:41.359 for Bob Dylan and Beck and Tom Petty and all 0:19:41.400 --> 0:19:44.680 these bands, right and learned how to travel the world 0:19:44.680 --> 0:19:51.280 playing arenas. And I wasn't even twenty six yet, and 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:55.720 I had a terrible tragedy. My mom died. Um, then 0:19:55.760 --> 0:19:58.960 they flew the planes into the buildings. Um. We I've 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.639 been working on other people career. We'd helped John John 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:06.000 get started in Seawan Mallins and he had moved to Atlanta. 0:20:06.160 --> 0:20:08.119 He had moved to Atlanta at the time and was 0:20:08.160 --> 0:20:10.560 he with Clay When I met him. He and Clay 0:20:10.600 --> 0:20:12.760 were working and my brother Brandon worked on that first 0:20:12.800 --> 0:20:16.920 record with them and then worked on John's first record UM. 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.560 And our bass player from Billy Pilgrim was Dave Jabrier. 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:22.879 So the first record do you mean like the EP inside, 0:20:22.880 --> 0:20:27.320 Once Out or Over Squares which which UM the first 0:20:27.359 --> 0:20:32.600 record on Aware, which was Room for Squares, and then 0:20:32.600 --> 0:20:34.720 the one before that was kind of the one that 0:20:34.760 --> 0:20:39.879 had like the sweatshirt song, and that's just Brandon working 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.040 on that. Your brother he worked on both those records, 0:20:42.760 --> 0:20:45.760 and so that's that was the world I was in. 0:20:45.800 --> 0:20:48.160 I was kind of trying to help new artists get 0:20:48.160 --> 0:20:52.439 started UM on the Coat Tails or whatever. Billy Pilgrim 0:20:52.560 --> 0:20:54.520 was able to go forward, and that's how I knew 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.920 Jennifer as she was an opening act for Billy Polgram 0:20:58.000 --> 0:21:00.840 as Jennifer Nettles as Jennifer Nettles AM, and before that 0:21:00.920 --> 0:21:03.280 it was a duo she was in and then they 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.760 broke up, and and then she went on by herself 0:21:06.880 --> 0:21:10.040 to keep making money in the Atlanta scene, and I 0:21:10.119 --> 0:21:12.040 had a major label record deal, so that was a 0:21:12.280 --> 0:21:14.720