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Speaker 1: How are you doing pretty good? Our first visit of

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Speaker 1: Tucker Boynton. He posted this today. He keeps numbers for

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Speaker 1: Barstool Sports. In the last two seasons, the NFL players

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Speaker 1: gets you, It gets prepared, definitely. Nobody wants to play,

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Speaker 1: says he's gonna lobby to play Tom giving your lip service.

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Speaker 1: It gets you prepared, though not gonna lie, get you

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Speaker 1: ready for that contact. Obviously you don't need to play

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Speaker 1: the full game or anything of that nature. But gets

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Speaker 1: those young guys reps and you know, gets them to

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Speaker 1: showcase their talents. And if there's two, maybe they might

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Speaker 1: not get to showcase as much as they want to.

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Speaker 1: So I mean, I don't know, but but in your opinion, right,

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Speaker 1: you've been doing this for a long time now, you

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Speaker 1: look at practices and the preseason games because it's all

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Speaker 1: you know, everybody's playing vanilla and that kind of thing.

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Speaker 1: But practices, I really feel like it's where guys can

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Speaker 1: earn their stripes and where they can rarely earn their spots. So, um,

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Speaker 1: when you look at practices and you look at the

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Speaker 1: joint practices, do you feel like it's it's a great opportunity,

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Speaker 1: not just for yourself. But some of these younger plays

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Speaker 1: to really go out there and kind of maybe make

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Speaker 1: a name for themselves because they might not get as

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Speaker 1: many reps in the preseason. Yeah, like I said, those

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Speaker 1: practice reps are just as good as game reps, especially

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Speaker 1: when you're going up against somebody else. You get to

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Speaker 1: showcase your stuff and go up against other great athletes.

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Speaker 1: So it's great for the young guys. Great for the

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Speaker 1: older guys. Is great competition. It's it's great to go

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Speaker 1: against other teams. But you play a pretty good defense

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Speaker 1: on this practice field every day. And we saw it

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Speaker 1: in practice for you guys struggling a little bit at times,

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Speaker 1: and then we saw the Lions had to deal with

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Speaker 1: it and it was there were no fake plays. It

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Speaker 1: was big. You know, nine sacks. How good is this defense?

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Speaker 1: And do you think they can just sort of carry

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Speaker 1: this right into the season. I mean, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of good players on that defense, and they work well together,

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Speaker 1: from the secondary to the linebackers and defensive line. I mean,

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Speaker 1: those guys are really good, man. If they they work

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Speaker 1: hard and stick to their keys, they'll be just fine. Man.

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Speaker 1: But we're only we're only in the beginning, so only

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Speaker 1: time the beginning looks good. You see Jamie Collins, when

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Speaker 1: you brought it's like boom right there only takes them.

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Speaker 1: Will tell man, you got to go out there and

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Speaker 1: put in, put in the work each and every week.

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Speaker 1: All right, We'll get you out of this on this one,

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Speaker 1: because I'm curious about your observation skills. We were sitting

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Speaker 1: first couple of practices, and you guys all finished up,

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Speaker 1: and everybody's had a day and doing art stuff. And

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Speaker 1: then we looked way back in the corner and here's

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick running the hill and running the hill running.

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Speaker 1: You guys noticed that, Yeah, you noticed that. Sometimes he's

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Speaker 1: back there running. He's always working out. Man, he tries

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Speaker 1: to stay in good shape. I didn't like it. He's

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Speaker 1: sixty seven. It was like eighty five degrees noontime. I mean,

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Speaker 1: that's the guy doesn't want to get out of him,

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Speaker 1: you know, it doesn't want to use some of these

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Speaker 1: coaches they get you get a little heavy now. Man

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Speaker 1: at his age though, I mean you could be careful

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Speaker 1: in shape. He's work smarter, not harder staying in shape.

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Speaker 1: Man wants to look good James, good to see you again,

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Speaker 1: looking forward to talking to you this year. Thank you, thanks,