WEBVTT - Is the Economy About to Explode?

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<v Speaker 1>All Zone Media.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to it could happen here, a podcast where the

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<v Speaker 2>economy is falling apart and do it exciting ways faster

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<v Speaker 2>than I can write about it. I am your host,

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<v Speaker 2>Mia Loong. Welcome to what has turned into a kind

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<v Speaker 2>of emergency? Is the Economy Collapsing? Episode? This episode was

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<v Speaker 2>originally supposed to be about tariffs, but while I was

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<v Speaker 2>writing the tariff episode, a bunch of shit happens, like

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<v Speaker 2>we invaded or run and KOs By, which is the

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<v Speaker 2>leading Korean stock market index, had its largest single drop

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<v Speaker 2>in its entire history, which triggered its circuit breaker. Circuit

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<v Speaker 2>Breakers are a thing that stock markets have now where

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<v Speaker 2>if the stock market collapses, like if it loses points

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<v Speaker 2>too fast in a certain period of time, all trading

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<v Speaker 2>will automatically stop for a bit, so it hits its

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<v Speaker 2>circuit breaker. The Tie index also hits at circuit breaker.

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<v Speaker 2>And then in the wee hours of sort of Monday

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<v Speaker 2>morning American time, I start seeing a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 2>posting that Coachy hit the circuit breaker, and I'm very

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<v Speaker 2>confused because that happened on Wednesday, right, like this already happened. No, no, no, no, wrong, wrong,

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<v Speaker 2>happened again. It's two circuit breakers in like four sessions.

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<v Speaker 2>So this has turned into an unbelievable crisis. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get the tariff episode at some point, talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the Supreme Court tariff rulings and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 2>that will happen. There's a lot of interesting stuff there.

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<v Speaker 2>But right now we need to answer the question is

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<v Speaker 2>the economy about to collapse? And tendively it has been

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<v Speaker 2>held off at least for a little bit. Now. This

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<v Speaker 2>is being recorded early Monday afternoon on March ninth. By

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<v Speaker 2>the time this goes out on March tenth, who the

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<v Speaker 2>fuck knows what will have happened. But let's talk about

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<v Speaker 2>what happened in the run up to all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>because it's very important. So in the lead up to

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<v Speaker 2>the open of the American markets, we had a massive

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<v Speaker 2>spike in oil futures, like one of the largest single

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<v Speaker 2>day spikes in oil futures ever. It looks like it's

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<v Speaker 2>going to be the apocalypse for the markets. And the

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<v Speaker 2>reason it looks like this is because and this is

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<v Speaker 2>something that's genuinely astounding. So one fifth of the world's

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<v Speaker 2>oil moves through the strait of farmos we're going to

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<v Speaker 2>talk about this in more detail later. And obviously there

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<v Speaker 2>is now a war, which means that you can't move

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<v Speaker 2>oil through it, and people suddenly realized that, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>this is going to raise oil prices. Now. When I

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<v Speaker 2>was originally writing this episode in the housey in days

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<v Speaker 2>of Friday of last week, part of this episode was

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<v Speaker 2>about why oil prices were not spiking because they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>spike and be upon the start of the war, right.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was very confused about this because the explanation

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<v Speaker 2>at the time was that people were like, Oh, I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be fine. The US Navy can escort oil tankers through

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<v Speaker 2>the straight ocrewer moves. No, they can't, like the narrowest

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<v Speaker 2>part of it's twenty three miles wide. Like what are

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<v Speaker 2>we doing here?

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<v Speaker 1>What?

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, Like forget drones. You can hit these oil tankers

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<v Speaker 2>with like a fucking trebuchet. What are we doing here?

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<v Speaker 2>What was the administration telling to oil companies? Right? And

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<v Speaker 2>then a few days later everyone collectively realized, oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>we can't move oil, and yeah, no, shit, you can't

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<v Speaker 2>move oil. Jesus Christ, like this is unbelievable stuff from

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<v Speaker 2>the people who are in the oil markets, from the

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<v Speaker 2>oil executives, from the golf monarchies, from all of the

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<v Speaker 2>people planning this, Why would you think this wouldn't happen?

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<v Speaker 2>And we're gonna get into that actually in a little bit,

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<v Speaker 2>because there is apparently a reason why they thought this

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<v Speaker 2>was going to happen, which is some combination of just

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<v Speaker 2>pure lies and a full belief and some of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst strategic planning I've ever seen in my entire life.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, the ability to close the straight upward

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<v Speaker 2>news is the reason why even if you are like

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<v Speaker 2>President Donald Trump, the kind of person who doesn't give

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<v Speaker 2>a shit if you know your army burns a running

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<v Speaker 2>and children to death, right, even if you don't care

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<v Speaker 2>that you fucking bombed a fucking school, you don't fight

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<v Speaker 2>this war because it fucks with the money. Now, in

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<v Speaker 2>anticipation of what looked like it was going to be

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<v Speaker 2>just a market pounding, Trump gave a phone interview with

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<v Speaker 2>CBS's senior White House correspondent Weija Jang, who posted this

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<v Speaker 2>on Twitter. This is her reporting of his statements. This

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<v Speaker 2>is from Donald Trump quote. I think the war is

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<v Speaker 2>very complete pretty much. They have no navy, no communication,

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<v Speaker 2>they've got no Air Force. He added that the US

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<v Speaker 2>is quote very far ahead of his initial three to

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<v Speaker 2>four timeframe. You know, he also said that ships are

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<v Speaker 2>moving through it now, but he's also quote thinking about

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<v Speaker 2>taking it over, which what is officially conquering the strait

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<v Speaker 2>up a moves instead of merely like protecting it with

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<v Speaker 2>the American fleet assets. This is completely unhinged. And that

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<v Speaker 2>he also said, quote they've shot everything they have to shoot,

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<v Speaker 2>and they better not try anything cute or it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be the end of that country now. Okay, So

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<v Speaker 2>the part of this right that went to the markets

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<v Speaker 2>is that he thinks the war is over now. The

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<v Speaker 2>part of it where he says if Iraan fights back

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<v Speaker 2>in any way, quote, it's going to be the end

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<v Speaker 2>of that country apparently did not hit the markets. The

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<v Speaker 2>people running the markets are really really dumb. They think

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<v Speaker 2>and act like herd animals. This is, I guess slightly

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<v Speaker 2>an insult to herd animals because herd animals react that

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<v Speaker 2>way for a reason. These people are human beings. They

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<v Speaker 2>have the capacity for logic and reason. They have the

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<v Speaker 2>same capacity for logic and reason that we do, and

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<v Speaker 2>they still act like this. But this has calmed the

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<v Speaker 2>markets down, and it's sent oil prices back down again.

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<v Speaker 2>We're going to get into why that's kind of nonsense

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<v Speaker 2>in a little bit, but it's also worth noting in

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<v Speaker 2>terms of Trump saying the war is nearly over, that

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<v Speaker 2>every single other quote Trump has said about this war

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<v Speaker 2>has been He's in this for the long haul. He's

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<v Speaker 2>thinking about troops on the ground, he is not going

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<v Speaker 2>to get bored with it. He doesn't care the gas

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<v Speaker 2>prices are going up. Someone asked his press secretary about

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<v Speaker 2>whether he's ruled out the draft, and she said no,

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<v Speaker 2>he hadn't, which is I mean, like they're not going

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<v Speaker 2>to do a draft, But like, that's ridiculous, why would

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<v Speaker 2>you say that. It's also worth noting that, so he

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<v Speaker 2>has a two hundred and fifty year anniversary commission thing

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<v Speaker 2>that he set up that he's very very excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>That's like it's America's two hundred and fifty year blah

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<v Speaker 2>blah blah blah blah. And that commissions like one of

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<v Speaker 2>their big people was ringing the opening bella shake this morning.

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<v Speaker 2>So you know, I suspect that there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>sort of motivated reasoning here going on with Trump saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's fine, It's gonna be fine. The war is nearly over.

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<v Speaker 2>Do do do do do? Okay? So, I quite frankly

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<v Speaker 2>do not believe the President when he says that the

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<v Speaker 2>war is nearly over. I mean, I guess maybe there's

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<v Speaker 2>a scenario where everything we're about to talk about causes

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<v Speaker 2>a crisis that is large enough to, you know, actually

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<v Speaker 2>set off Trump pulling out of the war under pressure

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<v Speaker 2>from his allies in the region, which is to say,

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<v Speaker 2>the air of monarchies. I don't know to what extent

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<v Speaker 2>that's actually going to happen, but let's talk about what

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<v Speaker 2>the crisis here is. So the US's war against Iran

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<v Speaker 2>has triggered what could be the start of a full

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<v Speaker 2>on energy crisis. The energy crisis has been postponed for

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<v Speaker 2>one day, I guess as of again time of recording, Monday,

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<v Speaker 2>March ninth. But this could be the start of a

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<v Speaker 2>fall on energy crisis. And it's not just me saying this.

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<v Speaker 2>Here is the subtitle of the Wall Street Journal's big

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<v Speaker 2>piece on this quote. Traffic through the Strade of four

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<v Speaker 2>mus has ground to a virtual halt, unleashing the most

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<v Speaker 2>severe energy crisis since the nineteen seventies. And threatening the

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<v Speaker 2>global economy. So that's not good. Now. I began this

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<v Speaker 2>episode talking about a collapse on South Korean and high markets,

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<v Speaker 2>and I also mention by the way that like when

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<v Speaker 2>that collapse happened, all the other Asian markets kind of

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<v Speaker 2>ate shit. The Chinese markets were sort of more stable

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<v Speaker 2>for reasons we'll get you in a second, but like Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>like the nik was down like four percent, like all

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<v Speaker 2>of the other Asian markets kind of ate shit, right,

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<v Speaker 2>Tawinese market. And the reason for that is well, again,

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<v Speaker 2>as I said above, one fifth of the world's oil

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<v Speaker 2>supply crude oil is shipped through the trade of farmuz

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<v Speaker 2>and this is an issue for a country like South Korea,

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<v Speaker 2>which imports almost all of its oil, you know, and

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<v Speaker 2>whose economy, like manufacturing economy in particular, is very, very

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<v Speaker 2>heavily dependent on oil. This is true of a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of other countries in that region, and South Korea and

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<v Speaker 2>Thailand and Taiwan and Japan are not countries like China,

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<v Speaker 2>which have much of oil stockpiles and have the ability

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<v Speaker 2>to get oiled through other ways. Now, I want to

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<v Speaker 2>take a second to actually explain what the strait of

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<v Speaker 2>Carmus is. So the Strait of Ramus is a straight

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<v Speaker 2>it's like there's a little bit of water, but it's

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<v Speaker 2>close to land. I talked to said earlier. At the

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<v Speaker 2>narrowest part of it is twenty three miles, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>very narrow, and it is a passage between the Persian

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<v Speaker 2>Gulf and effectively the Indian Ocean, right and what you're

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<v Speaker 2>out into the Indian Ocean, you can get to the

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<v Speaker 2>rest of the world that is, you know, east of that,

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<v Speaker 2>which is all of Asia, most of the rest of

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<v Speaker 2>the world that's not west of view right now, she's

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<v Speaker 2>bordering the Persian Gulf. Who are in the area who

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<v Speaker 2>need to ship their oil out through here include Iran, Iraq,

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<v Speaker 2>Bahrain Cutter, the UAE in Saudi Arabia. Those are a

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<v Speaker 2>bunch of oil producing countries. You know. They are now

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<v Speaker 2>also countries that are embroiled in this war because they

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<v Speaker 2>are part of the American Alliance. And you can ask

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<v Speaker 2>the very reasonable question, Okay, so if you're part of

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<v Speaker 2>the American Alliance, why the fuck would you be like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>with the United States launching this attack on Iran. On

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<v Speaker 2>a more vulgar level, you can ask the question, how

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck was this allowed to happen. This is the money,

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<v Speaker 2>This is the global economy that you are fucking with

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<v Speaker 2>right now. One of the things that the Wall Street

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<v Speaker 2>Journal talks about is that officials in the US and

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<v Speaker 2>Israel told the Gulf States that there wouldn't be retaliation

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<v Speaker 2>by Iran, right, that Iran wouldn't target oil facilities, they

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<v Speaker 2>would just target American military bases. They had a whole

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<v Speaker 2>thing about how oh were in the war with Israel.

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<v Speaker 2>They did only target American military basis. They didn't like

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<v Speaker 2>bomb any oil infrastructure. They were sending mister Bean memes

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<v Speaker 2>in their group chats about how weak the Iranian retaliation

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<v Speaker 2>was going to be. So this is not just a

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<v Speaker 2>situation of pure, you know, motivated reasoning. We were lying

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<v Speaker 2>to them, etc. Et cetera. Like the Americans appeared to

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<v Speaker 2>have actually believed some of this, that Iran's retaliation was

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<v Speaker 2>going to be weak. I've seen reports that they thought

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<v Speaker 2>that Aram was out of drones. I don't know why

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<v Speaker 2>you would think this baffling. Their drones are extremely cheap

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<v Speaker 2>to produce, like they've used them, but why would you

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<v Speaker 2>think they didn't have more? And I just want to

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<v Speaker 2>point out, right, so their point of reference here was

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<v Speaker 2>oh Iran showed restraint in the war with Israel. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a twelve day conflict where Israel and Iran

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<v Speaker 2>sort of fired missiles at each other and stuff after

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<v Speaker 2>Israel assassinated a bunch of people for doing nuclear stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>But okay, let's look at this for a second. My

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<v Speaker 2>brother in Christ, you killed the fucking Ayatola. This is

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<v Speaker 2>an existential war for survival of the regime. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>they were going to forget your oil facilities. Are you

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<v Speaker 2>fucking kidding me? Your goal here was regime change. You

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<v Speaker 2>literally assassinated their fucking head of state. You literally killed him.

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<v Speaker 2>What the fuck did you think was going to happen?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 3>These people are so fucking dumb and like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>and it's obviously not clear exactly like who knew what

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<v Speaker 3>about this plan? But again, like it seems like the

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<v Speaker 3>plan was put into place because they had the opportunity

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<v Speaker 3>to to kill a tool a committee And like, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>if that's true, and presumably the goal states would know that,

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<v Speaker 3>why the fuck would they not expect retaliation?

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<v Speaker 2>I expected this. I'm a podcaster. I mean, I know,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm very smart, but like these people are these people

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<v Speaker 2>and their advisors are running fucking like some of the

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<v Speaker 2>most important governments in the entire world. I don't know, monarchy,

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<v Speaker 2>bad system of governments electing Donald Trump also apparently bad

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<v Speaker 2>system of government. You're getting just oh my god, holy fuck.

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<v Speaker 2>These people are stupid. Oh my god. They really truly,

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<v Speaker 2>they really truly believed that Iran was not going to

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<v Speaker 2>pick up the weapon that it has always had, that

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<v Speaker 2>has always been the thing. For what reason why you

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<v Speaker 2>don't fight this fucking war even if you don't care

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<v Speaker 2>about Iranian lives, that you're willing to spend American lives? Right?

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<v Speaker 2>They really thought they wouldn't do it. I just, I

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<v Speaker 2>just I can't get over this. I just oh my god.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I don't know. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, we're gonna go to ads. I'm mad as hell.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not gonna take it anymore. Here's some ads.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, calm me down a little bit. Let's get back

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<v Speaker 5>to the actual oil of it all. So let's talk

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<v Speaker 5>about the quality of the oil here now. Sharp eared

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<v Speaker 5>listeners may remember that when I talked about Venezuelan oil

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<v Speaker 5>Battery nor Executive Disorder episode about the previous war, A

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<v Speaker 5>couple of months ago, a sentence so unhinged. I had

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<v Speaker 5>to go back check the date to make sure that

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<v Speaker 5>I wasn't hallucinating. But no, it was January third, twenty

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<v Speaker 5>twenty six, when we had our last war with a

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<v Speaker 5>major oil producer where read in some way incapacitated or

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<v Speaker 5>killed the head of state. By the way, we're still

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<v Speaker 5>just like holding Maduro hostage.

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<v Speaker 2>This is just still a thing that we're doing right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Incredible stuff, incredible like normal government shit, bad things happening.

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<v Speaker 2>But in that episode, which would have been the executive

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<v Speaker 2>disorder that came out on Friday of the January ninth,

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<v Speaker 2>I talked about how Venezuelan crude oil is not very good, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's extremely sour, kind of sucks. The cumbo composition is bad.

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<v Speaker 2>The oil in the golf is not like that. This

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<v Speaker 2>is good oil. This is one fifth of the world's

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<v Speaker 2>crude oil supply, right, And also it is now because

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<v Speaker 2>of cutters from that like liquified natural gas production. This

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<v Speaker 2>is now also a shutdown of a significant portion of

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<v Speaker 2>the world's liquified natural which is again extremely important to

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<v Speaker 2>the economy. And also you know, one of the biggest

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<v Speaker 2>sort of climate hoaxes in all of this, right, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'm saying climate hoaxes here. There's been a whole push

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<v Speaker 2>to be like, oh, we should transition to natural gas

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<v Speaker 2>because it's cleaner than oil, and like kind of a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit in the sense that like dunking your head

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<v Speaker 2>into a swamp is probably cleaner than dunking your head

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<v Speaker 2>directly into like a shitful toilet. And also it's only

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<v Speaker 2>cleaner assuming that no methane escapes through the production process.

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<v Speaker 2>But the thing is, methane fucking escapes during the production

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<v Speaker 2>process of natural gas all the fucking time, and methane

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<v Speaker 2>is like to get a sense, So we're talking about

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<v Speaker 2>greenhouse greenhouse gases here, right, and obviously we're familiar with

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<v Speaker 2>CO two is like the major pollutant that we that

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<v Speaker 2>we produce. Methane is a greenhouse gas that is so

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<v Speaker 2>fucked that it is better to light it on fire

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<v Speaker 2>and have it burn and have it admit that CO

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<v Speaker 2>two into the air. That is better for the environment

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<v Speaker 2>than letting fucking methane into it. It is that fucked

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<v Speaker 2>of a greenouse gas, right, And you know a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of this stuff escapes and and this this is the

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<v Speaker 2>point that I've been, you know, trying to find a

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<v Speaker 2>thing to put in this episode. Right, one of the

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<v Speaker 2>big things here is why are we still using oil

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<v Speaker 2>to this extent? And you know, it has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with sort of, I mean just just the the the

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<v Speaker 2>utter cowardice and evil and short sighted profit motive chasing

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<v Speaker 2>of the entire world ruling class. It has to do

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<v Speaker 2>with specific efforts by the oil lobby in order to

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<v Speaker 2>make sure that politics would happen like this. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we can talk about like the role of Pennsylvania and

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<v Speaker 2>like fracking as like an electoral thing. We can talk

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<v Speaker 2>about sort of the kind of Andrea's molm fossil capital

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<v Speaker 2>thesis about the place that you want to produce things

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<v Speaker 2>being a place that both has stable energy and also

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<v Speaker 2>a sort of I don't know, I guess the capitalists

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<v Speaker 2>would call it disciplined workforce, but like a workforce that's

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<v Speaker 2>not like organized, and that's not militant, so you can

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<v Speaker 2>exploit them. And the places where those things are true,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, like this century largely has been China, where

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<v Speaker 2>you know, if you try to do independent union organizing,

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<v Speaker 2>they will arrest you. Sometimes you will get disappeared. And

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<v Speaker 2>that also coincides with you know, they have an energy grid,

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<v Speaker 2>and the energy grid is extremely pollution intensive. It still is,

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<v Speaker 2>even as you know, trying to sort of renewable energy

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<v Speaker 2>push has been happening, is still extremely carbon intensive. So okay, obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>like we're in this nightmare because a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>people who really, really, really really desperately want us to

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<v Speaker 2>burn the entire world alive so they can keep making money.

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<v Speaker 2>But we're turning to the original thing before I got

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<v Speaker 2>kissed off about people saying that natural gas is cleaner

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<v Speaker 2>than oil. It's like, just fucking use literally any other

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<v Speaker 2>way to generate energy that's not fucking oil or natural

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<v Speaker 2>gas or coal or I guess nuclear too. But like I,

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<v Speaker 2>we have other ways of generating power. We could do this.

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<v Speaker 2>But because we haven't done this, this massive decrease in

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<v Speaker 2>oil supply because again nothing's fucking going through the gull.

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<v Speaker 2>There's like a couple of ships have gone through. This

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<v Speaker 2>is causing a crisis in the global economy. I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to quote the Wall Street Journal. If the Strait is

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<v Speaker 2>still closed this Friday, output in the region could follow

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<v Speaker 2>by more than four million barrels. Kind of analystical Quoting

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<v Speaker 2>earlier estimates, the decline could reach about nine million by

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<v Speaker 2>the end of March, representing almost a tenth of global demands.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it's worth noting here, right that you know, you

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<v Speaker 2>look at a tenth of global demand and you go, oh, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>so it's like a ten percent reduction, but it's actually

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<v Speaker 2>way worse than that, because again, people have this tendency

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<v Speaker 2>to look at oil as just liquid money that moves

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<v Speaker 2>freely around the world. But that reduction in supply is

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<v Speaker 2>not evenly distributed across the world. Right there are countries

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<v Speaker 2>who have extraordinary needs of it who get their oil

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<v Speaker 2>from the Middle East. This is the places like for example,

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<v Speaker 2>Korea from Thailand, b and mar We're gonna get to

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<v Speaker 2>you in a little bit, are places who are relying

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<v Speaker 2>on this oil. And you know, for South Korea, it's

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<v Speaker 2>like seventy percent of their oil comes from this region. Right,

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<v Speaker 2>So that ten percent of global demand is not spread

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<v Speaker 2>eatingly across the world is intensified into acute crises and

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<v Speaker 2>very very specific economies. And this is a compounding crisis because,

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<v Speaker 2>as the Wall Street Journal points out, like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>just that the Strait is closed for the first time, ever, Right,

0:19:18.760 --> 0:19:21.720
<v Speaker 2>this rait has never been closed. Like there was a

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<v Speaker 2>point where the US was like escorting things through a

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<v Speaker 2>dream the arad of rock War, but like, it's never

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<v Speaker 2>just been closed before. It's not just that, like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>oil and natural gas and fertilizer isn't coming out of

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<v Speaker 2>there either, which is a real fucking problem that we'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about in a second. This is not just an

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<v Speaker 2>immediate crisis of we can't move the oil that we

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<v Speaker 2>have out there is a secondary crisis, which is that

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<v Speaker 2>where the fuck do you put the oil? Right? If

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<v Speaker 2>you get one thing out of listening to me talk

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<v Speaker 2>about oil, it's that again, it's not just liquid money,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a material substance. And the actual substance of oil

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<v Speaker 2>and what it is and how it's produced has really

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<v Speaker 2>wide reaching political effects, right, because when you take ausself

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<v Speaker 2>out of the ground, the system is designed so that

0:20:04.000 --> 0:20:07.359
<v Speaker 2>it is moved extremely quickly. Now, there are countries like

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<v Speaker 2>a rock that you could in theory still produce oil, right,

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<v Speaker 2>but there aren't enough containers to store it, so they

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<v Speaker 2>have to shop production down. Now you could be like, okay, well,

0:20:14.920 --> 0:20:17.080
<v Speaker 2>but why don't they just ship it out through the

0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.240
<v Speaker 2>Mediterranean and the answers that the pipelines and the shipping

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<v Speaker 2>equipment there just don't have the throughput. Oil distribution is

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<v Speaker 2>very very flexible, and this is what makes disrupting it

0:20:25.560 --> 0:20:28.879
<v Speaker 2>harder than something like coal used to be. But it

0:20:28.960 --> 0:20:32.520
<v Speaker 2>is designed to a point to be sort of nodal

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<v Speaker 2>and flexible and able to sort of deal with supply

0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:41.480
<v Speaker 2>reduction crises. Right, It's not designed to deal with this,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a full on energy crisis level, like, oh

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<v Speaker 2>by god, we can't get oil out through this radio removes.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a scale of issue that can't simply be

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<v Speaker 2>solved by just moving the supply around and distributing it differently.

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<v Speaker 2>That this is not a solution to this, and so

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<v Speaker 2>these are having these interlocking effects right because also again

0:21:01.280 --> 0:21:03.760
<v Speaker 2>these things are designed to be going constantly, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>not just a thing where you can just turn it

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<v Speaker 2>off and turn it back on again. It doesn't work

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<v Speaker 2>like that. These are actual, very very complicated, had to

0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:12.000
<v Speaker 2>go processes. If you turn these things off, this is

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<v Speaker 2>again very important. If you turn these wells off, some

0:21:15.280 --> 0:21:17.640
<v Speaker 2>of them will never turn back on again. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about permanent damage to the supply, right, even if tomorrow, Right,

0:21:23.760 --> 0:21:27.240
<v Speaker 2>like the war is suddenly over and everything quote unquote

0:21:27.240 --> 0:21:29.080
<v Speaker 2>goes back to normal. We're talking about still like permanent

0:21:29.160 --> 0:21:31.480
<v Speaker 2>damage to the supply. And this is where again you

0:21:31.520 --> 0:21:33.600
<v Speaker 2>can be like, well, okay, like why don't we just

0:21:33.600 --> 0:21:35.760
<v Speaker 2>transition from oil? And again you can also ask like

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<v Speaker 2>why should we give a shit about this? There's a

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<v Speaker 2>few reasons when I say this is a compounding crisis.

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<v Speaker 2>The Water Journal talked about this a little bit, but

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<v Speaker 2>in every article you read about this, you will see

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<v Speaker 2>people making the argument that, oh, it's fine, Like the

0:21:59.000 --> 0:22:02.040
<v Speaker 2>US is more insulated than it was from oil prices

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<v Speaker 2>in the seventies when it just like caused a major

0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:08.359
<v Speaker 2>global crisis. And that's kind of true to a certain extent, right,

0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:11.639
<v Speaker 2>the US is an oil producer, but also again, oil

0:22:11.760 --> 0:22:14.159
<v Speaker 2>is not just something that's used for cars, right, and

0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:17.600
<v Speaker 2>our domestic economy doesn't just rely on oil, Like you

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<v Speaker 2>can't just you know, you can you make plastics out

0:22:19.359 --> 0:22:22.600
<v Speaker 2>of oil, right, but even that, you don't just make

0:22:22.720 --> 0:22:27.280
<v Speaker 2>things whole sale out of oil. Like everything you consume

0:22:27.359 --> 0:22:31.199
<v Speaker 2>has other things in it, and it relies on products like,

0:22:31.240 --> 0:22:34.840
<v Speaker 2>for example, a luminum and you know, things like copper

0:22:35.280 --> 0:22:38.320
<v Speaker 2>and everything from basic commodities to sort of like refined

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:44.280
<v Speaker 2>goods that rely on there being oil. Right, Like again

0:22:44.320 --> 0:22:48.040
<v Speaker 2>we're talking about South Korea's economy. South Korea produces. There's

0:22:48.040 --> 0:22:50.160
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of microtrip production stuff that goes on there.

0:22:50.240 --> 0:22:53.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, there's like Samsung, right, major foam manufacturer, So

0:22:53.240 --> 0:22:55.200
<v Speaker 2>there's all of this very very high tech stuff too.

0:22:55.200 --> 0:22:56.800
<v Speaker 2>On the sort of on the bottom end we're talking

0:22:56.800 --> 0:23:00.360
<v Speaker 2>about like you can't refine the luminum anymore, know right,

0:23:00.400 --> 0:23:02.159
<v Speaker 2>not that you can't like like places are shutting down

0:23:02.160 --> 0:23:04.080
<v Speaker 2>their cassidy to do it because they can't get oil

0:23:04.440 --> 0:23:07.720
<v Speaker 2>or they can't afford this oil. To the extent that

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<v Speaker 2>we're seeing something called forcemith Zura and being deployed by

0:23:10.240 --> 0:23:12.639
<v Speaker 2>a whole bunch of companies across the world in different

0:23:12.640 --> 0:23:15.160
<v Speaker 2>sectors and forced majoram is. This is this legal concept

0:23:15.200 --> 0:23:17.200
<v Speaker 2>you can apply that it's like an act of god,

0:23:17.840 --> 0:23:19.480
<v Speaker 2>where for example, like I don't know, if there's like

0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:21.960
<v Speaker 2>a once in a century earthquake and it like obliterates

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.360
<v Speaker 2>your factory, you're not legally liable to pay stuff out

0:23:24.359 --> 0:23:26.600
<v Speaker 2>to people because it's an act of God, like you,

0:23:26.600 --> 0:23:29.359
<v Speaker 2>you can't be legally held liable for it. And people

0:23:29.400 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 2>are doing this for their aluminum production to say like, yeah, sorry,

0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.040
<v Speaker 2>we can't meet our contracts, we can't meet our quotas

0:23:35.080 --> 0:23:37.880
<v Speaker 2>that you bought from us, Like not our fault, nothing

0:23:37.920 --> 0:23:40.879
<v Speaker 2>we can do about it. It's happening with oil producers.

0:23:41.440 --> 0:23:45.560
<v Speaker 2>Because it's also worth noting that it's not just that

0:23:45.680 --> 0:23:49.040
<v Speaker 2>the strait is closed. Iran is also hitting oil facilities.

0:23:49.359 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 2>Israel is also hitting oil facilities in Iran. They hit

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<v Speaker 2>one in Tehrun, like a massive one in Tehran that's

0:23:57.160 --> 0:24:00.360
<v Speaker 2>releasing all of these fucking toxic chemicals into the error,

0:24:00.600 --> 0:24:06.480
<v Speaker 2>and that has set off a massive ecological crisis because

0:24:06.560 --> 0:24:09.560
<v Speaker 2>all of these people are Enormous numbers of people in

0:24:09.600 --> 0:24:11.280
<v Speaker 2>Iran are going to die because of this, not just

0:24:11.320 --> 0:24:13.520
<v Speaker 2>because of the bombings, but because it turns out when

0:24:13.560 --> 0:24:15.640
<v Speaker 2>you fucking blow up an oil facility releases a bunch

0:24:15.680 --> 0:24:18.919
<v Speaker 2>of extremely toxic chemicals into the air that caused fucking

0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:22.320
<v Speaker 2>cancer and stuff like that. And so what you're dealing with, right,

0:24:22.840 --> 0:24:27.960
<v Speaker 2>is this crisis in which all of these different aspects

0:24:28.000 --> 0:24:30.840
<v Speaker 2>of the economy that rely on oil are impacted. Right,

0:24:30.840 --> 0:24:34.040
<v Speaker 2>it's basic commodities, it's highly advanced like parts of like

0:24:34.320 --> 0:24:37.400
<v Speaker 2>some MAAC conductor manufacturing. It's you know, all of these

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<v Speaker 2>things that rely on oil are suddenly constrained, and suddenly

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<v Speaker 2>the supply chains are fragmenting. You know, the US gets

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<v Speaker 2>things from all over the world, but the crisis right

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<v Speaker 2>now has mostly been hitting East Asia. Right. I talked

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<v Speaker 2>about Korea, we talked about high Land. The thing is right,

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<v Speaker 2>crises in East Asia do not stay in East Asia.

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<v Speaker 2>Like the Asian mark collapse, heralded a whole bunch of

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<v Speaker 2>other debt crises. This is the Asian market class in

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<v Speaker 2>the nineties, right, Herald's a bunch of debt crises in

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<v Speaker 2>places like Mexico. Heralds the collapse of the US economy

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<v Speaker 2>and drain the dot com bubble. It causes, as say

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<v Speaker 2>it with me, long time listeners of the show, is

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<v Speaker 2>what causes the reverse Plaza Accords try to bail out

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<v Speaker 2>the entire world economy, which is where the US like

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<v Speaker 2>nuked its own manufacturing economy. By reversing Reagan's attempt to

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<v Speaker 2>force all of the rest of the countries in the

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<v Speaker 2>world to increase the value of their currencies relative to

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<v Speaker 2>the dollars of the US, he compete in manufacturing better.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, so it affects all these places, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and that that effect will boomerang back here. But as

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<v Speaker 2>as is always true with American imperialism, the people suffering

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<v Speaker 2>from this the most are not Americans. It's people in

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<v Speaker 2>a run, right, It's people who are getting fucking blown up.

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<v Speaker 2>It's people who are breathing in toxic chemicals as people

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<v Speaker 2>whose lives have been destroyed and ruined by American imperialism.

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<v Speaker 2>And beyond Ron, it's Pakistan, it's India, it's Bangladesh, it's Taiwan,

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<v Speaker 2>it's Thailand, it's the Philippines, South Korea, it's Mia and

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<v Speaker 2>mar Like it's Indonesia. I mean, it's Western's and Indonesia.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, we're talking about potential crop failures from

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<v Speaker 2>lack of fertilizer, right, we're talking about economic ruin. We're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about the destabilization of the world economy, or we're

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<v Speaker 2>talking about people dying for fucking cancer when we're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about the global economic effects of this, That's what we're

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<v Speaker 2>really dealing with here, regardless of what happens on the

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<v Speaker 2>American stock markets, is a whole bunch of people who

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<v Speaker 2>never had anything to do with this fucking suffering and

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<v Speaker 2>dying because of the fucking greed and pride and vanity

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<v Speaker 2>and hatred of the American ruling class. Now I'm going

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<v Speaker 2>to close on a slightly lighter note, which is people

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<v Speaker 2>who follow the economy very closely will be talking about

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<v Speaker 2>how post B the Korean Index had a massive bubble

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<v Speaker 2>and that's why it collapsed, and that's why it had

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<v Speaker 2>like two circuit breakers, and that's why it's going down

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<v Speaker 2>so much. That's kind of true, right, But that bubble

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<v Speaker 2>is an AI bubble. Now it is a larger and

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<v Speaker 2>more concentrated version of the American AI bubble. But you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the American economy is an AI bubble. And the thing

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<v Speaker 2>about AI is that it's propped up by gas prices. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>AI is enormously enormously fuel intensive. That's just it. It

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<v Speaker 2>wastes a staggering, un hinged amount of energy, right, And

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<v Speaker 2>it can only really function as long as those oil

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<v Speaker 2>prices are very cheap and as long as natural gas

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<v Speaker 2>prices are cheap. And it's also worth noting that, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>these AI things are also doing a physical infrastructure, because

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<v Speaker 2>these people are just like absolute clowns. They've been buying

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<v Speaker 2>into the Golf monarchy's attempts to attract a tech sector there,

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<v Speaker 2>so they've been hit. And Iran has been taking advantage

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<v Speaker 2>of this by hitting an Amazon data centers in the

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<v Speaker 2>Golf States. So that's another way where this can potentially

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<v Speaker 2>just sort of toss a nuke into the global economy.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that like the price of running all of these

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<v Speaker 2>AI things suddenly starts to increase. And the kind of

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<v Speaker 2>worst case scenario scenario for this, right, the one that

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<v Speaker 2>we've been looking at in terms of what could happen

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<v Speaker 2>to the world economy is what's been being discussed more

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<v Speaker 2>and more, which is a version of the Crisis of

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<v Speaker 2>the seventies, which is an economic crisis of increasing inflation

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<v Speaker 2>and also increasing unemployment that completely reshaped the entire global economy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's why we have neoliberalism, you know. It's a complete

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<v Speaker 2>collapse with the social democratic system that had come before it.

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<v Speaker 2>It changes the entire global world order. Right, the US

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<v Speaker 2>goes off the gold standard, like things change that had

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<v Speaker 2>never changed before. And we're going to talk about that

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<v Speaker 2>more on the tariff episode. But that to a large then,

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<v Speaker 2>to the ruling class is what is at stake here, right,

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<v Speaker 2>It's whether it is worth destroying the global economy in

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<v Speaker 2>order for Trump to kill what people are or on

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