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Speaker 1: past tense adjective. I have not gotten sleep. That's the

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Speaker 1: It's sleep should be sanctified into human rights, into law,

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Speaker 1: that reason. Let me ask you question. I agree. Let

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Speaker 1: And you met Rodgers is my friend as the show

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Speaker 1: just like, we need to watch Jimmy Glick videos. Oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: the weekends. I don't know. It was just really fun.

426
00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: And then they go to everyone, so who was the

427
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:52,520
Speaker 1: best at murder Mystery And they all look at Kate

428
00:22:52,600 --> 00:22:56,199
Speaker 1: Hudson and she's like, what, Oh my god, I was

429
00:22:56,280 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 1: really into it, you know what, guys, It makes me

430
00:22:58,520 --> 00:23:02,320
Speaker 1: feel really happy that you said that, and I was like,

431
00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 1: I'm Kate. You are Kate. Oh my god, You're right.

432
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:11,760
Speaker 1: I was the best. That's so funny. It's ask Perland

433
00:23:11,840 --> 00:23:14,080
Speaker 1: is Kate, No, Matt Rodgers is Kate Hudson. That's a

434
00:23:14,119 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: rule of culture, of culture Kate Bert Rogers is Kate Hudson.

435
00:23:32,560 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 1: Talk about that show. I did see Kate Berland in

436
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:42,840
Speaker 1: Kate and listen, this was exemplary, like in terms of

437
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:46,320
Speaker 1: not only just a comedy show or you know, an

438
00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:51,119
Speaker 1: alt you know, comedy experience. It's like a journey into it.

439
00:23:52,760 --> 00:23:55,280
Speaker 1: It really is. And have you seen it yet? I

440
00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,520
Speaker 1: know I'm dying to. I will pay any price to

441
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 1: see it. I know, I know the tickets are they're deep,

442
00:24:02,520 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 1: but like, but it's it's theater. This is the This

443
00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: is when theater is exciting, when when you're like, wow,

444
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:11,320
Speaker 1: I really it's a must see thing. You know, it

445
00:24:11,440 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: has that feeling about it. And um, I've just heard them.

446
00:24:15,359 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 1: I've read. I don't want to read all of the

447
00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:19,399
Speaker 1: reviews because I don't want to. I don't want to,

448
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,400
Speaker 1: you know, to I don't get going with too much context. Yeah,

449
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,560
Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it can really be tipped

450
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,399
Speaker 1: for you in a way. What else say about it

451
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:30,640
Speaker 1: is that actually, as I was leaving, I was thinking

452
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 1: to myself, like, how would I describe this? And I

453
00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 1: would just say, you know, if you're a Kate Berlant fan,

454
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: it feels like her at her most realized. And I

455
00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,399
Speaker 1: have a feeling that probably a lot of people that

456
00:24:40,440 --> 00:24:42,879
Speaker 1: listen to this podcast, a lot of the readers probably

457
00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:45,720
Speaker 1: also listen to Poog and if you are big fans

458
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,440
Speaker 1: of Kate's, like, this is a really cool show to see.

459
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:52,680
Speaker 1: It's just directed to absolute perfection by Bo Burnham. I mean,

460
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,960
Speaker 1: the aesthetic is very clear. You would actually you would

461
00:24:56,960 --> 00:25:00,240
Speaker 1: absolutely love it. You would absolutely love it. You really

462
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:03,919
Speaker 1: was of course I would. Oh my god. It's that

463
00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: thing where I remember the conversations that I would first have.

464
00:25:09,160 --> 00:25:14,639
Speaker 1: This was like I remember like someone came into a

465
00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 1: pop roulette rehearsal. I think it was Amanda was a

466
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:20,040
Speaker 1: man of Chatman and she was like, you, guys, I

467
00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 1: just saw this amazing stand up show and it wasn't

468
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 1: like Kate show, but it was like Kate doing a

469
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:28,959
Speaker 1: set and it was like at that point I had

470
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 1: heard of I knew John early, but I knew that

471
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,679
Speaker 1: he was doing shows with or he was doing stuff

472
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:38,760
Speaker 1: with Kate, like hearing Kate be described as one thing

473
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,199
Speaker 1: and then you and then you watch or perform and

474
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:45,400
Speaker 1: it's this really wild, electrifying thing that like I think

475
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:49,119
Speaker 1: people I think it might have been some it was

476
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: some piece, I forget what it was in. But there

477
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:53,720
Speaker 1: they write about how you know, people are still sort

478
00:25:53,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 1: of writing checks on the sensibilities that like John and

479
00:25:56,720 --> 00:26:00,480
Speaker 1: Kate have sort of created. And I but here's what

480
00:26:00,560 --> 00:26:02,400
Speaker 1: I think about that, because I do think there used

481
00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:04,360
Speaker 1: to be a narrative at least in the New York

482
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,720
Speaker 1: comedy community that Kate and John quote unquote get copied.

483
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:10,840
Speaker 1: And I think that, like, while that may have been

484
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 1: true because people were very strongly influenced by what they've

485
00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:17,239
Speaker 1: what they did, and what they were so good at,

486
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 1: I think everyone that tried to copy them is sort

487
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:23,760
Speaker 1: of no longer doing it because they've failed at doing

488
00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 1: it as well, or realized that was a narrative and

489
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 1: therefore abandoned it and tried to, like you do, find

490
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 1: your own fucking thing. Because they did get there were

491
00:26:35,760 --> 00:26:38,840
Speaker 1: speech patterns in the way that they would speak on stage,

492
00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 1: and they do share some. I mean, I think they

493
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,480
Speaker 1: would even go to that. Sometimes I do see John

494
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: and Kate and Kate and John, but they are so

495
00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,120
Speaker 1: an entity that it's like, you know, that doesn't feel

496
00:26:48,160 --> 00:26:51,360
Speaker 1: like a weird rub to me. Other people younger than

497
00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: them obviously would rip the way that they spoke, and

498
00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 1: now I don't see them doing it that much anymore.

499
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 1: I'm not I'm not even I'm not even like attaching

500
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:07,200
Speaker 1: any sort of value judgment on that. I go, of course,

501
00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:12,119
Speaker 1: you're going to try on like another person's thing, You're

502
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:15,160
Speaker 1: gonna channel something else as you are on your own

503
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:17,400
Speaker 1: journey to your own point of view like that that

504
00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: that that is totally normal. I just feel like that's

505
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:23,680
Speaker 1: they're like, I don't think that many people are like

506
00:27:24,320 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: not to narcissistically put myself in that equation, but like

507
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:30,280
Speaker 1: not people aren't copying me, you know what I'm saying,

508
00:27:30,359 --> 00:27:34,160
Speaker 1: or people aren't like trying to use my voice in something.

509
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:35,959
Speaker 1: And so that's like the difference where I got. Well,

510
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:40,320
Speaker 1: John and Kate really found something, um and even let's

511
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 1: just like distinguish the two. Like Kate found something very

512
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:47,560
Speaker 1: very very specific in the way she performs narcissism, like

513
00:27:48,600 --> 00:27:52,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it's just really really great. There's there's

514
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,639
Speaker 1: an art to it. And like I'm finishing Parker Poses

515
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: book finally and I'm like, oh, there's these are these

516
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,120
Speaker 1: are artists, these are this is something that like, um,

517
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: you you really build out your self, you it affects

518
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: your output because it comes from a differently um conceived

519
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,240
Speaker 1: self concept. I'm talking into my ask, but it's like,

520
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,919
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, It's like, yes, I do

521
00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:21,360
Speaker 1: think that in discussing Kate's work sometimes I do get

522
00:28:21,400 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 1: a little like turned around. And I think that what

523
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,439
Speaker 1: I love about her so much is that if you

524
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:31,119
Speaker 1: actually just sit there and watch it, it's actually a

525
00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:35,000
Speaker 1: lot more simple than than you think. And I also

526
00:28:35,080 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: think the fact that you think that Kate is going

527
00:28:38,360 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: to present this heavy like odyssey of the mind is

528
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:46,000
Speaker 1: part of her magic trick because you go there and

529
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:51,280
Speaker 1: so much of the show is about actual superficiality in

530
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:55,720
Speaker 1: that base way, you know what. It's funny like back

531
00:28:55,760 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: when I was a little bit more self conscious as

532
00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: a comedian, and I think back when and I didn't

533
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: know my own voice so much, I would actually get

534
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: intimidated by people like John Kate and Jacqueline no vacuo,

535
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: because I figured like they were operating on a level

536
00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,280
Speaker 1: that I could not possibly understand. And I think that

537
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,840
Speaker 1: trips people up. You go to their show and you

538
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: just sit there and they're actually it's actually the show

539
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,400
Speaker 1: was actually made exactly for me. I left that being like,

540
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,960
Speaker 1: oh my god, that was so like that was such

541
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:32,040
Speaker 1: a ripping open of the like like emotional psychological wounds

542
00:29:32,040 --> 00:29:34,360
Speaker 1: you only find in therapy because you admit it to

543
00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: yourself about what it means wanting attention, like truly, And

544
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 1: I think that like because she's so smartin because bo

545
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:46,040
Speaker 1: is such a great eye on it, it seems so vast,

546
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:49,560
Speaker 1: and then in the comedy it's actually really simple. And

547
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:53,160
Speaker 1: what I'm most blown away by with caper Land is

548
00:29:53,200 --> 00:30:01,080
Speaker 1: her sheer control as a performer. She is so in

549
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 1: her body and she she plays every note of her

550
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:10,680
Speaker 1: own instrument like it's just so like it's it's very

551
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: lived in in a way, and like I hesitant to

552
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,560
Speaker 1: say dropped in because it's not that it's actually beyond

553
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:21,560
Speaker 1: because because she's it's it's both broad and also really

554
00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:24,080
Speaker 1: really small in a way that she's aware of and

555
00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: like a lot of the show is about. It's like

556
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:31,480
Speaker 1: it's like a you know, exploration on on how she's

557
00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:34,760
Speaker 1: perceived as a performer and what that does to her

558
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:38,800
Speaker 1: own psyche. And I think that, you know, the it's

559
00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,200
Speaker 1: it's just great. I mean like I really loved it,

560
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 1: m M. And this space is great. Yeah, Connelly's great.

561
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:51,000
Speaker 1: That's where Circle Jerk was. It was awesome. Um. But wow,

562
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: hearing you talk about hearing you talk about her control

563
00:30:54,200 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: is really cool. I told her after that inspired me,

564
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,760
Speaker 1: Oh great, Matt. And that's and you will process that

565
00:31:04,800 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: in your own way and it will come out perfectly.

566
00:31:07,080 --> 00:31:10,600
Speaker 1: I am. This is what's eating at me from last night?

567
00:31:11,040 --> 00:31:16,720
Speaker 1: What's up? I just like, look at myself in these

568
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,160
Speaker 1: photos and I go, what the hell am I doing? Like?

569
00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: Why is it? Like it's it's that thing where oh god.

570
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:26,680
Speaker 1: This is what makes this business really crazy. Is that

571
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,400
Speaker 1: if you're good at it, then that means you like,

572
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:30,880
Speaker 1: if you're good at that part of it, then that

573
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:37,320
Speaker 1: means um that you think about this constantly. I don't know.

574
00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:41,239
Speaker 1: I just and then I watched back the bit I

575
00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:44,239
Speaker 1: did with Keenan, and I look at myself when I go,

576
00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,640
Speaker 1: there's no I have no idea what I'm I have

577
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:51,920
Speaker 1: no control over what I'm doing, my delivery, my intention

578
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:56,000
Speaker 1: behind this. That's not true. It's no Matt. I'm telling you.

579
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 1: Like I I walked out there and I kind of

580
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 1: blacked out. I think in and think God Keenan was

581
00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 1: there next to me, Because it was just me by

582
00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: myself on that stage, I would have had a heart attack.

583
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:11,800
Speaker 1: On life television. I was just I was just like

584
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:14,280
Speaker 1: and that's not a natural environment for anyone to be in.

585
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,080
Speaker 1: And let me just say, like, um, I have no

586
00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:21,040
Speaker 1: interest in actually hosting a show like that. It's it's

587
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: crazy to me that anyone want to would want to

588
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: do that, except for a unicorn like Keenan Thompson, except

589
00:32:27,800 --> 00:32:30,280
Speaker 1: for some like a late night post like you know

590
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: all the late night hosts we have. But for someone

591
00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:36,360
Speaker 1: like me. I watch back that set, that thing, that bit,

592
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,320
Speaker 1: and I go, what the funk am I doing with

593
00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: my face? My body? Like? Why am I moving around

594
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 1: like this? It's it's not even artistic things, it's stupid

595
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,719
Speaker 1: ship like that where I go, I hate this, I

596
00:32:46,800 --> 00:32:49,240
Speaker 1: hate looking at myself that way. I'm just being This

597
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:51,320
Speaker 1: is honesty zone. This is the honesty zone that I

598
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: was kind of wanting to maybe bring in And I'm

599
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,240
Speaker 1: sorry if it's dragging us down a bit in the

600
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: um in the vibe, but I just that's that's that's

601
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: my honesty's own moment. Well that's a therapize. But I

602
00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: totally understand everything that you're saying. And I think that

603
00:33:07,680 --> 00:33:12,560
Speaker 1: it's very normal to watch yourself back on something like

604
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,360
Speaker 1: the Emmy's and not be like, look at me, look

605
00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:18,040
Speaker 1: I look perfect. Look at how I know my angles?

606
00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:20,760
Speaker 1: Oh I didn't miss a speck of that light. I

607
00:33:20,840 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 1: hit the light. Look at me on my God Denmark

608
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:26,560
Speaker 1: and not a stumble. Incredible. I will tell you this, Boone,

609
00:33:26,680 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 1: from my perspective, what what what the show really needed

610
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:32,560
Speaker 1: at that point was energy, and you brought so much

611
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,800
Speaker 1: energy and the crowd was so excited to see you.

612
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: I I understand and I and I this is how

613
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:41,080
Speaker 1: I understand this about you because I see the way

614
00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: that you rehearse, and I see the way that you prepare,

615
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 1: and I know I understand with you that it's very

616
00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:51,400
Speaker 1: important to be on top of the little things. It

617
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: doesn't matter, it doesn't matter you were one of the

618
00:33:55,720 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: presenter highlights. Those jokes were actual jokes. And you delivered

619
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:06,480
Speaker 1: them with an energy and with a confidence, whether it

620
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 1: was famed or not, that definitely absolutely read to the audience.

621
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,840
Speaker 1: And if even if I wasn't your best friend sitting

622
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,479
Speaker 1: with your other best friend, I would have been like, well,

623
00:34:15,480 --> 00:34:20,880
Speaker 1: thank God, because you can't fake that thing of just

624
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:24,759
Speaker 1: comic timing. You can't fake energy, you can't fake confidence

625
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: like that. You can't fake experience like the one that

626
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 1: you had at the same time. Do I think it's

627
00:34:29,600 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 1: normal that you look at yourself in that environment and think, well,

628
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: fuck yeah. And I think that that's probably shared by

629
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,400
Speaker 1: a lot more people, not that you need to go

630
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: to a a with these Hollywood stars and presenters that

631
00:34:41,800 --> 00:34:44,480
Speaker 1: are like, you know, Hi, my name is rhes Wutherspoon

632
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: and I think my hair is too long right now,

633
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 1: and I don't like the way I looked on the

634
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:52,400
Speaker 1: Emmy's I want, I do want to go to that meeting. Honestly,

635
00:34:52,400 --> 00:34:57,480
Speaker 1: I think that would be a really fun meeting. Hey, guys,

636
00:34:57,480 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: my name is India and um, and actually I have

637
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 1: no problems by the way, guy, UM, but but I understand,

638
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: And I just want to say, you're not looking for

639
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: me to like say no, no, no, that's not true.

640
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:12,960
Speaker 1: But no, no, no no, that's not true. And also like

641
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,319
Speaker 1: I was only proud of you and like only thought

642
00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:18,400
Speaker 1: that you looked natural. I do think that there is

643
00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:20,279
Speaker 1: a certain way you can go about it, as like

644
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,680
Speaker 1: a comedic presence where it's like everything about what I'm

645
00:35:23,719 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: doing here is like funny and ha ha and law,

646
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: and like I I understand, Like, is that maybe where

647
00:35:30,480 --> 00:35:32,759
Speaker 1: you're at, like you wish to be more of like

648
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 1: a confident comedic presence in the entire thing. Yeah, I don't.

649
00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't want to go on stage and be like

650
00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 1: what what Like that's that's the vibe is that I

651
00:35:44,320 --> 00:35:47,799
Speaker 1: feel frenetic, and I don't want that to be part

652
00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,640
Speaker 1: of my projection anymore. I don't want to project that outwardly.

653
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,560
Speaker 1: And I can really work on that, Like and look,

654
00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: you weren't projecting that. You weren't projecting that I am here,

655
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:04,319
Speaker 1: so you're perceiving that. Sure. I am so lucky that

656
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:07,800
Speaker 1: I get to I'm actually very excited about this season MSNL,

657
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:10,279
Speaker 1: And I don't. I did not say that last year.

658
00:36:10,280 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: I did not say that the year before. I'm very

659
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 1: excited going to this season, very excited. Good And I

660
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: hope and even if I'm disappointed, if I'm disappointed it anyway,

661
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 1: it'll be fine. I think I've built up the you know.

662
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: Amy Polo writes about this in her book about Wanting

663
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:36,320
Speaker 1: the Cookie Remember This, And there's so much great stuff

664
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: in Um Amy polos Yes Please, And it was really

665
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:41,520
Speaker 1: fun to see Hear and Steff present together. I'll say that.

666
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:46,160
Speaker 1: But in Amy Polo's Yes Please, she discusses the thing

667
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: of UM, the promise of the cookie. When you get

668
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,760
Speaker 1: nominated at an award show like that, or really with anything,

669
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: like in any respective career path that you're in, when

670
00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 1: there's like an opportunity for a promotion or like you know,

671
00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: a bonus or something, or an opportunity to show mine

672
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: amongst your peers in an extraordinary way or a special

673
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,960
Speaker 1: way that's going to have some recognition, it's like you

674
00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,240
Speaker 1: don't want to care about it because it's not cool

675
00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:13,759
Speaker 1: to care about it. That being said, everyone around you

676
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 1: cares about it, and you care more than you think,

677
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: because you're programmed to of course want recognition from your

678
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,799
Speaker 1: peers and of course be told that you're doing a

679
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,840
Speaker 1: great job, like especially like in the arts and the

680
00:37:23,960 --> 00:37:29,839
Speaker 1: entertainment industry, like I'm reading Betty Gilbin's fantastic book right now,

681
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,200
Speaker 1: and oh my god, am I excited to have her

682
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 1: on the show. But she also says like, yeah, it's

683
00:37:34,920 --> 00:37:38,200
Speaker 1: this weird thing of like self deprecation that rubs up

684
00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:43,320
Speaker 1: against like, you know, actual self hatred sometimes and the

685
00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:47,200
Speaker 1: need for attention and the wrestling with that need. You know,

686
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: it's a weird thing. Talks about the cookie and how

687
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: you know you want it and then you don't get

688
00:37:52,600 --> 00:37:54,760
Speaker 1: it and you feel stupid for wanting it. It's weird.

689
00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: It's weird. That is exactly it. Of course Betty would

690
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 1: get it right. I'm exhausted. I got a decent amount

691
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: of sleep last night. I'll say I think I got

692
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 1: I think I hit six hours. So I'm not like

693
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: that's so crazy, but that's decent. That's not good. But

694
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,960
Speaker 1: I am drained to the bone, and I think it's

695
00:38:15,000 --> 00:38:17,960
Speaker 1: because of a night like last night that is so

696
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:25,120
Speaker 1: emotionally weird ten style. It's so emotionally like all over

697
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 1: the place in the way that it's it's pulling you

698
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,040
Speaker 1: in so many directions that you're like, I don't know

699
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:32,279
Speaker 1: how I'm supposed to feel about this, and so and

700
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 1: so let me get to them and think. And I'm

701
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: sorry that this is a therapy session, um, but it

702
00:38:39,239 --> 00:38:42,120
Speaker 1: feels like I've had I'm having to like organize my

703
00:38:42,200 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 1: thoughts around this in the immediate aftermath. So thank you

704
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,640
Speaker 1: for being a friend and listening. Um. Do you ever

705
00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: think about talking to like, do you ever talk to

706
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,919
Speaker 1: ad about this stuff all the time? But maybe someone

707
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: who I think is being so thoughtful about her relationship

708
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:03,560
Speaker 1: to all of them, to the pageantry of of of

709
00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 1: ship like this where she is completely I think she

710
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:09,320
Speaker 1: is like really, I don't I don't want to speak

711
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: on her life, but I think she is like taking

712
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:15,880
Speaker 1: a minute to just like chill out, not really engage

713
00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:21,080
Speaker 1: in too much like outwardly facing stuff. And I yearned

714
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: for that. I yearned for that. Um. But anyway, this

715
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:27,840
Speaker 1: is what I'll say about us if we were to

716
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,200
Speaker 1: ever host and I only and look, let me just

717
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 1: get this out of the way. I'm am I a

718
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 1: little like I'm a part of me is saying like, oh,

719
00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:37,800
Speaker 1: we shouldn't talk about this. It's so self indulgent for

720
00:39:37,840 --> 00:39:39,760
Speaker 1: us to talk about the hypothetical thing of us hosting

721
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: an award show one day, But We literally just did

722
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,799
Speaker 1: that at Lincoln Center. Even it was it was a fake,

723
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,319
Speaker 1: bastardized parity version of it, there was an element of

724
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: it that felt real, right. And that's because I think

725
00:39:51,480 --> 00:39:53,640
Speaker 1: the reason why Culture Awards got out of its own

726
00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:58,360
Speaker 1: way and succeeded was because you and I we're stupid

727
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 1: and ironic enough about it, but also took it so seriously.

728
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: We made it seem like an important, prestigious award and

729
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 1: that the ceremony of the night was so important and

730
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: amazing and not and the award shows now have not

731
00:40:12,840 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 1: done that at all. It's always been about the host

732
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,279
Speaker 1: coming out, except for Keenan, but it's always been about

733
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,080
Speaker 1: the host coming up being like, oh hey, we're all here. Okay,

734
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: well this is the part of the show where like

735
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: the wink is not even a wink anymore. It's like

736
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:28,120
Speaker 1: a an eyebrow raise and a shrug. It's like, well,

737
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 1: this is what it is. Award shows need to go

738
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 1: back to the thing where people are like the people

739
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: who are like m seeing are going, oh my god,

740
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: it's that time or the night where we you know,

741
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,560
Speaker 1: like that needs to come back. Yeah, And I think

742
00:40:41,640 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 1: in like, in like a this is what I'm saying

743
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: about last night, And I couldn't. I couldn't be a

744
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,319
Speaker 1: bigger Keenan fan. That whole opening with the dancing, I

745
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 1: didn't get it at all, Like it felt like it

746
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:56,879
Speaker 1: didn't feature him then, not for nothing, like the transitions

747
00:40:56,920 --> 00:41:00,960
Speaker 1: between like the bits were very lazy, they were not

748
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,839
Speaker 1: like that. Nothing had like no no sketch they did

749
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,880
Speaker 1: was blacked out adore sam j but like was she

750
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:11,640
Speaker 1: was hosting more than Keenan was, and that was looking

751
00:41:11,760 --> 00:41:13,920
Speaker 1: using the constant cuts to a voice that the audience

752
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:19,000
Speaker 1: couldn't see, like she was not cue correctly, like the

753
00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 1: presenters were at the mic while she was still doing

754
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:25,080
Speaker 1: like announcer bits. Like it just was. It was not

755
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:30,720
Speaker 1: done well and so that was vert to watch. People

756
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 1: all deserved a better, a better produced show in the

757
00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:37,440
Speaker 1: control room. Um, the writers did a great job. I

758
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 1: from what I know, I feel like the dance routine

759
00:41:40,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 1: was like thrown at them at the last minute and

760
00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: it was a thing. Yeah, and I'm sure Keenan wasn't

761
00:41:47,080 --> 00:41:50,240
Speaker 1: that thrilled about it. I think he was so charming

762
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:53,560
Speaker 1: throughout the show. It just felt like that opening took

763
00:41:53,640 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 1: something from him. And then the way we went into

764
00:41:56,080 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 1: the first award was like so bizarre, And that was

765
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,560
Speaker 1: my big global note on the whole thing was I

766
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,200
Speaker 1: was just like, why do I feel like we're like

767
00:42:06,520 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: racing to start this show? And then the way the

768
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,040
Speaker 1: way that the dance montage in the beginning ended felt

769
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 1: like it didn't have a finale? Did I feel like

770
00:42:14,560 --> 00:42:17,000
Speaker 1: that in the room for it to start with friends

771
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,040
Speaker 1: with such a weird thing, and then I think it

772
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: went to Brady bench the law and ordered dance really

773
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,479
Speaker 1: threw me out the window. I was like, of course

774
00:42:24,520 --> 00:42:28,839
Speaker 1: these people with guns that should have been I don't Yeah,

775
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,279
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it was well. First of all,

776
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 1: I we we had terrible seats. We had no monitor

777
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: in our view. We didn't know what was being we

778
00:42:37,120 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: didn't know what was being shown to people at home,

779
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: um or or like, had no context for what was

780
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:45,839
Speaker 1: happening in other sections of the theater. I mean, I

781
00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: appreciate the risk they took where it's like club seating

782
00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 1: for one half and then like row seating for the

783
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: other half, but it was very hard. There was no center.

784
00:42:54,120 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: There was no center, There was no central place to

785
00:42:56,040 --> 00:42:58,560
Speaker 1: look at for people in the room and for people

786
00:42:58,560 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: at home. I'm sure it was just oriented and I

787
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:04,360
Speaker 1: will say I want to be like, who's this for?

788
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:07,160
Speaker 1: Who is this for? It's not the people in the room.

789
00:43:07,200 --> 00:43:09,399
Speaker 1: It's not for the people at home. It's just so

790
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:13,760
Speaker 1: that like a production designer can be like, well I

791
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:17,680
Speaker 1: tried out an idea. No that's not that's not worth it.

792
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: But we have to talk about miss Leah mr Leah Michelle,

793
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:36,840
Speaker 1: who we hope is recovering quickly from COVID. Wow, but

794
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:43,080
Speaker 1: also like so many wait background bone and I didn't

795
00:43:44,719 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: so great. I mean, you know, so we saw her

796
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:52,520
Speaker 1: a second night, like and really great performance. I mean

797
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 1: the production we we had we had notes on the

798
00:43:57,239 --> 00:44:00,160
Speaker 1: stage and we got notes this episode. But I think

799
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 1: they're good notes. They're good notes and where and they're

800
00:44:04,080 --> 00:44:08,680
Speaker 1: with good intention. We're not drags. We're not they're not dragging. Yeah.

801
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 1: You you at one point you like I could feel

802
00:44:12,280 --> 00:44:14,600
Speaker 1: you short of tensing up next to me in your seat,

803
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:17,759
Speaker 1: and you just lurge forward and go I cannot stand

804
00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,640
Speaker 1: the staging. I go. I was like, this makes no sense.

805
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:24,360
Speaker 1: I was like, I can't see it. It doesn't make sense.

806
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 1: It doesn't show was set so far back it's set

807
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,000
Speaker 1: so far upstaged some of it, like they just they

808
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:33,839
Speaker 1: if you're sitting on the sides, like in stage left

809
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 1: or right, like you were cut off from so much

810
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: of the show, wild wild, and so maybe get a

811
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,359
Speaker 1: mezzanine seat. Honestly, if you go see it, because then

812
00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:48,400
Speaker 1: you're guaranteed a good view, you'll see everything. Um, Leah

813
00:44:48,440 --> 00:44:53,680
Speaker 1: was wonderful. She was great. Yeah, the energy of that

814
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,880
Speaker 1: show you could tell had shifted considerably and that the

815
00:44:56,960 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: people on stage were excited that they were doing it

816
00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:02,080
Speaker 1: before they were like, oh my god, our work is

817
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:04,320
Speaker 1: being recognized. Like people are leaping out of their seats.

818
00:45:04,320 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: There were five standing ovations at the show we were at. Yeah,

819
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:08,600
Speaker 1: we had five. We had two in the same song,

820
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:11,360
Speaker 1: which I don't think happened the first night. Yeah, it

821
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:15,160
Speaker 1: was Um she was almost to the all the way

822
00:45:15,200 --> 00:45:16,680
Speaker 1: to the end of Don't Ring on My Braide and

823
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 1: there was a massive standing ovation, and then she sang

824
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 1: like the last truly seconds of it, and there was

825
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:26,840
Speaker 1: another standing ovation, but deserved both deserved. Um gosh, Tovah

826
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 1: felt show was so good. She did a fabulous job also,

827
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,719
Speaker 1: and I mean the whole cast was great. I mean

828
00:45:33,080 --> 00:45:36,160
Speaker 1: it's but there was a couple of moments where it's true.

829
00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 1: It's just like, again, we need to look at this

830
00:45:38,320 --> 00:45:41,239
Speaker 1: like and this when you have a performer like that

831
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:46,200
Speaker 1: can actually sing people stage people like it's the moment,

832
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:53,160
Speaker 1: for God's sakes. The way it's staged is the two

833
00:45:53,200 --> 00:45:57,000
Speaker 1: of them sitting at a table stage right, and that

834
00:45:57,120 --> 00:46:00,160
Speaker 1: Leah and that Fanny gets up and like brushes his

835
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:06,560
Speaker 1: shoulder behind him as she crosses slightly closer to center

836
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:11,160
Speaker 1: but not center stage. It makes zero fucking sense to me.

837
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,000
Speaker 1: And it's people. It's people, it's people. Do you know

838
00:46:14,040 --> 00:46:16,520
Speaker 1: what I literally did last night? Literally last night for

839
00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: some reason, I think I was just stoned, like being

840
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,920
Speaker 1: on YouTube. I watched Barbara's the movie version of People.

841
00:46:22,719 --> 00:46:25,799
Speaker 1: Watch that. Literally. I understand they didn't want to rip

842
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,279
Speaker 1: anything that like Barbara was doing or from the movie.

843
00:46:28,280 --> 00:46:30,520
Speaker 1: And I get that the stage production is different than

844
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,160
Speaker 1: the movie, but it's the same fucking song. And whether

845
00:46:34,239 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: you want to admit it or not, people are coming

846
00:46:36,400 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: in with an expectation when using people, and so they

847
00:46:41,960 --> 00:46:45,760
Speaker 1: could have taken so many little cues from the movie

848
00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,880
Speaker 1: version of it. Bo And I'm telling you and readers,

849
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,720
Speaker 1: stop this right now. Watched the movie version of People

850
00:46:50,760 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: with Barbara a fucking legend, and the way it's stage

851
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 1: is small and intimate because it takes place on the street,

852
00:46:57,880 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 1: but it still feels romance, like an emotional and big

853
00:47:01,560 --> 00:47:06,239
Speaker 1: because she's realizing for the very first time, she's actually

854
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:09,440
Speaker 1: going to acknowledge the fact that she wants a connection

855
00:47:09,480 --> 00:47:12,439
Speaker 1: with someone else because she might maybe be good enough

856
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: for them. Like it is such a big moment, and

857
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 1: they just like they let it just happen in the show,

858
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: even with Leah. And they did change some other things,

859
00:47:22,640 --> 00:47:25,440
Speaker 1: like the music that makes me dance, Like they used

860
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,480
Speaker 1: to cut off at the end, which drove me nuts

861
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: because I guess the actress is playing the part really

862
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:32,960
Speaker 1: couldn't do the final note justice or maybe it was

863
00:47:33,000 --> 00:47:39,320
Speaker 1: just a choice. Yeah, just like it's it's it's wild

864
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:41,759
Speaker 1: and like and it's a very hard song and very

865
00:47:41,880 --> 00:47:45,560
Speaker 1: like you know, but but Leah like nailed it, and

866
00:47:45,600 --> 00:47:47,840
Speaker 1: they changed that for her. They changed the arrangement of

867
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:51,960
Speaker 1: that and that staging. They also changed, you know, like

868
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:54,200
Speaker 1: several other things from the first time I had seen it,

869
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:57,440
Speaker 1: but not enough to make it be like, yes, this

870
00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:00,400
Speaker 1: is a knockout production that lives up to her talent

871
00:48:00,480 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 1: in the part, because some of the staging was giving

872
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:09,080
Speaker 1: high school sorry tough tough with a Tony winning like

873
00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 1: legendary director. I will say that I feel like who

874
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,840
Speaker 1: Are You Now? At least in the I listen to

875
00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:17,960
Speaker 1: the Oh, I listened to the to the to the

876
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 1: Barbara Broadway version of who Are You Now? And honestly,

877
00:48:22,400 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 1: can I say they turn it into a duet between

878
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: Fanny and Nick, and watching Leah and Ramen do that

879
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:33,200
Speaker 1: together was really really special. I really loved that. That

880
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,440
Speaker 1: was a good choice. I don't have much context for

881
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:38,040
Speaker 1: funny girl. Um, this is my first iteration of seeing it,

882
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,080
Speaker 1: which I which is kind of crazy. So I'm not

883
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:42,719
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to like say too many make too

884
00:48:42,719 --> 00:48:46,760
Speaker 1: many statements about it, but um, that was really really great.

885
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:50,879
Speaker 1: And there's a line in the in the book which

886
00:48:50,960 --> 00:48:53,520
Speaker 1: is Fanny sort of saying to Nick, actually it's right

887
00:48:53,560 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: before people, which kind of drove me nuts for her

888
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,279
Speaker 1: because like, Okay, so there's this moment where it's like

889
00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,080
Speaker 1: Fannie and Nick and you know, he's like meeting her

890
00:49:03,120 --> 00:49:05,560
Speaker 1: family and all her friends right where she lives, and

891
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:09,239
Speaker 1: you know they're having like a little flirty moment before

892
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:12,759
Speaker 1: she's launches into fucking people, and she says something like

893
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:17,080
Speaker 1: I haven't read many books, and the whole audience like

894
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,600
Speaker 1: including this one loser, like like ten Rose behind us

895
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,839
Speaker 1: was literally doing that thing where it's like very audibly

896
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:26,200
Speaker 1: like quote unquote trying not to laugh, and it's like

897
00:49:29,320 --> 00:49:31,080
Speaker 1: and I was just like, oh my god, this is

898
00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:34,560
Speaker 1: going to be contagious now, like freaking COVID or something,

899
00:49:35,000 --> 00:49:38,759
Speaker 1: because everyone just started laughing so much. And again, like

900
00:49:38,920 --> 00:49:41,080
Speaker 1: not to revisit my point last week, because I get

901
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:44,440
Speaker 1: that people disagree with me, but I just don't think

902
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:47,640
Speaker 1: this bit that she can't read is funny. Like I

903
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,800
Speaker 1: just don't think it's funny. It just doesn't make me laugh,

904
00:49:50,880 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: even if it were done in and presented a more

905
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 1: clever way, And it certainly doesn't make me laugh to

906
00:49:55,640 --> 00:49:59,280
Speaker 1: like laugh at her expense when she said she doesn't

907
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,759
Speaker 1: like the Joe up there, not that she needs protecting anymore,

908
00:50:02,800 --> 00:50:06,160
Speaker 1: she's fine, but like, I don't know, like at what

909
00:50:06,320 --> 00:50:09,440
Speaker 1: point are we just gonna like retired this bit just

910
00:50:09,480 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 1: because I don't think it's a good bit. I think

911
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:16,000
Speaker 1: I think it's reached. It's sort of you would hope.

912
00:50:16,800 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 1: I think it's sort of reach critical mass and now

913
00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 1: we're like out of it, hopefully. I think what happened

914
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: was since the first night. Al So, all this ship

915
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: from the first night comes out in tweets and stuff

916
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:32,920
Speaker 1: where that you know, these fucking idiots are recording the show,

917
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:37,440
Speaker 1: whether it's audio or video, but someone recorded that part. Well.

918
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:39,800
Speaker 1: I saw the tweet the day we were going to

919
00:50:39,840 --> 00:50:42,160
Speaker 1: go see the show, like the morning after, and people

920
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: were like, there were gasps and chuckles at the line

921
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,880
Speaker 1: I don't read many books. And then of course Twitter

922
00:50:49,040 --> 00:50:53,320
Speaker 1: loves that ship, and then um, the audio gets released

923
00:50:53,320 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 1: where people are like little little little tiny lass audible,

924
00:50:57,440 --> 00:50:59,439
Speaker 1: but then they move on. It was a full laugh

925
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:01,840
Speaker 1: line in our show, and our show was a full

926
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:05,080
Speaker 1: laugh line, I think because people might have picked up

927
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:07,920
Speaker 1: on that. I don't know how online our audience was,

928
00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,640
Speaker 1: but um, I think maybe there was that expect like

929
00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:16,240
Speaker 1: people were sort of like white knuckling until that line maybe,

930
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: and then just to see how she would react from

931
00:51:18,640 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: what I could see, and maybe it's because our view

932
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:26,480
Speaker 1: of the stage was shipped. Because of the stage, we

933
00:51:26,520 --> 00:51:29,560
Speaker 1: can see her face. I think she kind of gave

934
00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:31,440
Speaker 1: a little wink not a literal wink, but she like

935
00:51:31,560 --> 00:51:34,400
Speaker 1: smirked and smiled and laughed through it, and so I

936
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: think she was she was showing the audience that she

937
00:51:36,840 --> 00:51:38,239
Speaker 1: was okay with the joke, that she was going to

938
00:51:38,360 --> 00:51:40,520
Speaker 1: laugh at her own expense and have a sense of

939
00:51:40,600 --> 00:51:43,319
Speaker 1: humor about the whole thing. And then Ramen playing Nick

940
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:45,839
Speaker 1: also kind of broken laughed and the two of them

941
00:51:45,840 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 1: were laughing together. So it gave permission for the entire

942
00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:53,040
Speaker 1: audience to uproariously build to a laugh. And I think

943
00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,759
Speaker 1: that's what happened, And what I was seeing was she

944
00:51:56,840 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 1: says it some like knuckleheads in the audience started laughing.

945
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:06,480
Speaker 1: It became a thing, and then rum in like, I mean,

946
00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:10,800
Speaker 1: however you pronounce it. Um. He sort of leaned into

947
00:52:10,880 --> 00:52:14,440
Speaker 1: it because he didn't know how to ignore it, and

948
00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:16,719
Speaker 1: he was like, well, this is now a uh, it's

949
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 1: now a laugh line, Like I have to wait because

950
00:52:19,600 --> 00:52:23,240
Speaker 1: like we need to and then um, she said something

951
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:26,040
Speaker 1: like you want me to read your line for you?

952
00:52:26,320 --> 00:52:29,440
Speaker 1: She said something like that stepped out of the character,

953
00:52:30,440 --> 00:52:33,480
Speaker 1: and um, I think it was weird, like he was

954
00:52:33,520 --> 00:52:36,279
Speaker 1: trying to walk a line like being there for her

955
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,120
Speaker 1: and acknowledging that she might feel a certain way about

956
00:52:39,160 --> 00:52:41,799
Speaker 1: people in the audience doing that, but also trying to

957
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:44,760
Speaker 1: preserve the moment as a performer and honor the response

958
00:52:44,800 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: it was getting, and also like potentially like wrestling with

959
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,440
Speaker 1: the fact that she's gonna want to move past this moment.

960
00:52:51,560 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: And she did. That's why she said something I see

961
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,080
Speaker 1: that makes sense, and she did, and she sings people

962
00:52:57,360 --> 00:53:01,640
Speaker 1: and it's you know, it's blocking aside, it's great, and

963
00:53:01,680 --> 00:53:04,680
Speaker 1: then um, the rest of the show, she's having fun.

964
00:53:04,760 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 1: And then she was great. She was great. She was

965
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,200
Speaker 1: it was really special. And I went in pretty ambivalent

966
00:53:10,200 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 1: about Leah. I of course she's a terrible person, or

967
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,840
Speaker 1: she was in the recent past. But I think she

968
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,759
Speaker 1: you know, I think it's meaningful that she's back on

969
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:23,279
Speaker 1: Broadway and that she seems very at curtain call. It

970
00:53:23,320 --> 00:53:26,719
Speaker 1: seems like this whole cast really really likes her and

971
00:53:26,760 --> 00:53:28,880
Speaker 1: that she likes and she likes them back. And I

972
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:32,080
Speaker 1: feel like working in a show like Glee that is

973
00:53:32,120 --> 00:53:35,720
Speaker 1: just toxic all around for whatever reason, for whatever reason,

974
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:37,680
Speaker 1: like you don't know if it comes from her or

975
00:53:37,719 --> 00:53:40,680
Speaker 1: she's receiving it and she's kind of deflecting it outward.

976
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:44,120
Speaker 1: I'm not making excuses for her behavior, but I'm saying

977
00:53:44,120 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: that maybe she's more in her natural environment in theater,

978
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:51,759
Speaker 1: in her dream role. Yeah, I don't think she should

979
00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:53,680
Speaker 1: try to go back to television or movies. I think

980
00:53:53,680 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: she should stay in theater. I think it's like clearly

981
00:53:57,080 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 1: where she stands out the most and where she is

982
00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: the most effective, because you can watch her on TV

983
00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: and sing that these Glee songs and it can't maybe

984
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,800
Speaker 1: it doesn't really register, like you understand she's a great singer,

985
00:54:07,880 --> 00:54:10,960
Speaker 1: but it doesn't actually register that she's like a very

986
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:14,520
Speaker 1: special stage presence, whereas it's clear as day with this.

987
00:54:15,120 --> 00:54:18,600
Speaker 1: I also think that you know, and I understand that,

988
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:22,880
Speaker 1: like the allegations about what she did and like on

989
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,520
Speaker 1: the set of Glee are really tough, and you know

990
00:54:26,840 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 1: she's there must be something to the fact that, like

991
00:54:31,160 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 1: they're all in this toxic atmosphere working on this show.

992
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:39,400
Speaker 1: There's so many people with such real dark problems and

993
00:54:40,440 --> 00:54:43,839
Speaker 1: they're pretending to be in high school, so that has

994
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:45,799
Speaker 1: to like, and they're also like in I just had

995
00:54:45,840 --> 00:54:47,680
Speaker 1: a four and a half hour dance rehearsal and I

996
00:54:47,719 --> 00:54:51,440
Speaker 1: turned to Zane and I was like, can you imagine

997
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: being on Glee and he was like, oh my god,

998
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:59,720
Speaker 1: I know, and like like basically embodying a high school

999
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:02,560
Speaker 1: character her and being in such close proximity all the

1000
00:55:02,600 --> 00:55:05,440
Speaker 1: time and working like that. I'm not making any excuses

1001
00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: for anyone's behavior, but I can see how people acted

1002
00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:13,240
Speaker 1: like fucking shitty like and I think it's like because

1003
00:55:13,360 --> 00:55:16,000
Speaker 1: people have so much fun with the persona of like

1004
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:18,560
Speaker 1: how annoying a character like Rachel Barry is and that

1005
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:21,840
Speaker 1: is like Liam Michelle and you know, the someone spilled

1006
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: sauce of it all, like it's funny to make jokes

1007
00:55:24,000 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: at her expense. Still, it's it's iconic, I mean, like

1008
00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,800
Speaker 1: and the fact that that was a real, true, genuine

1009
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,320
Speaker 1: story from first person account holder, you know, Michelle Collins

1010
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,200
Speaker 1: just something I will never forget. But and it's worth

1011
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:39,239
Speaker 1: a real listen to someone spilled sauce the episode with

1012
00:55:39,320 --> 00:55:42,040
Speaker 1: Michelle Collins to hear this Liam Michelle story. But that

1013
00:55:42,160 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: being said, like you know, she is where she belongs

1014
00:55:45,520 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 1: on that stage, playing that part, and the show really

1015
00:55:48,080 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: worked because of her, and a show like that needs

1016
00:55:50,960 --> 00:55:53,839
Speaker 1: someone like that. And also we do need to get

1017
00:55:53,840 --> 00:55:57,359
Speaker 1: excited about theater again because let me tell you so

1018
00:55:57,440 --> 00:56:01,319
Speaker 1: much of it is so bad. Yeah, this is what

1019
00:56:01,360 --> 00:56:03,280
Speaker 1: I wanted to say. I didn't really want to didn't

1020
00:56:03,320 --> 00:56:07,880
Speaker 1: care to talk about the illiteracy stuff. But um, I

1021
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: turned to you at one point, I think it was

1022
00:56:09,120 --> 00:56:11,879
Speaker 1: during intermission. I go, you know, she's doing she's giving

1023
00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,360
Speaker 1: you just enough barber impression. She's not she's not doing

1024
00:56:15,440 --> 00:56:19,400
Speaker 1: the she she wasn't doing the i'll say, the beanny

1025
00:56:19,480 --> 00:56:22,520
Speaker 1: thing of turning the other direction and trying not to

1026
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:24,520
Speaker 1: touch the barber thing at all, which I think is

1027
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:29,200
Speaker 1: like all she was able to do. Um. But you

1028
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:31,320
Speaker 1: said to me, well, it's the thing. I was listening

1029
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:35,000
Speaker 1: to an episode of Everything Iconic with Danny Pellegrino where

1030
00:56:35,000 --> 00:56:38,120
Speaker 1: he was interviewing Johnny Benson interview everyone. You should go

1031
00:56:38,120 --> 00:56:40,759
Speaker 1: listen to that. I gotta listen to it. But, um,

1032
00:56:40,800 --> 00:56:43,320
Speaker 1: you you told me that she says that whenever she sings,

1033
00:56:43,360 --> 00:56:45,640
Speaker 1: whenever she sings part of your role live or on

1034
00:56:45,680 --> 00:56:49,520
Speaker 1: a re recording or something, she always does the same

1035
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:53,840
Speaker 1: exact things things, the same exact timing, the takes the

1036
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,480
Speaker 1: same breath, that the same places whatever. Um. Because people

1037
00:56:57,480 --> 00:57:00,120
Speaker 1: are so attached to that song, if you change to

1038
00:57:00,280 --> 00:57:04,440
Speaker 1: just a little, they get a little perturbed. They sort

1039
00:57:04,440 --> 00:57:08,680
Speaker 1: of don't like it. Maybe, well, and it's interesting that

1040
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 1: it's interesting that you say that, like days before the

1041
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,759
Speaker 1: Little Mermaid teaser comes out, but yeah, go ahead, Well

1042
00:57:13,800 --> 00:57:15,480
Speaker 1: you know what's funny about that, like and it's a

1043
00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,760
Speaker 1: great interview. So I don't want to repeat verbatim what

1044
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:19,840
Speaker 1: was said, because you should check out his podcast to

1045
00:57:20,120 --> 00:57:23,440
Speaker 1: listen to it. But basically, the sense I get is

1046
00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:26,240
Speaker 1: that when she was working on that song with Howard Ashman,

1047
00:57:26,640 --> 00:57:29,000
Speaker 1: he said something to the effect of, like, we're gonna

1048
00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 1: really work this and it's gonna sound like Ariel. It's

1049
00:57:32,360 --> 00:57:34,240
Speaker 1: not gonna sound like Jody, and you might not like

1050
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:37,080
Speaker 1: the way it sounds at the end. And then you know,

1051
00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:38,840
Speaker 1: this being back in the day when the first time

1052
00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:41,200
Speaker 1: you can see yourself your performance in the movie, like

1053
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: you didn't get cuts of it beforehand, Like she went

1054
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:45,600
Speaker 1: to the premier, sat down and she saw Ariel sing

1055
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:47,840
Speaker 1: the songs, and then she was like, oh my god,

1056
00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:50,840
Speaker 1: And you know, you might not like those performances as

1057
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,520
Speaker 1: a singer, because it's a lot of speak singing and

1058
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:55,320
Speaker 1: some of it is a little pitchy or flat, just

1059
00:57:55,360 --> 00:57:58,280
Speaker 1: based on human emotion, which is why I think some

1060
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 1: of these musicals um can feel a little canned because

1061
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: literally the sound is like it's so perfected in the

1062
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,920
Speaker 1: studios that you lose the humanity of the human voice

1063
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:12,760
Speaker 1: of the character. And so in how that connects to

1064
00:58:12,800 --> 00:58:16,160
Speaker 1: Funny Girl and you talking about this Barbara quote unquote

1065
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:20,720
Speaker 1: impression or the effect that is the strange ending, right,

1066
00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:23,880
Speaker 1: This woman who was next to me when when we

1067
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:25,720
Speaker 1: sat down in our seats, so someone who's next to me,

1068
00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:27,880
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a thing of like she recognized us

1069
00:58:27,960 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: or whatever. This older woman like probably sixty five years old,

1070
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:35,440
Speaker 1: not older, you know, older than us. She turns to

1071
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:39,520
Speaker 1: me and she just goes, I am so excited. I

1072
00:58:39,640 --> 00:58:41,200
Speaker 1: was like, Oh, my gosh, are you a fan of

1073
00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:43,840
Speaker 1: the movie? She goes, this has been my favorite movie

1074
00:58:44,080 --> 00:58:46,480
Speaker 1: since I was a little girl. And I was like, oh,

1075
00:58:46,560 --> 00:58:49,960
Speaker 1: you must be so excited. She goes, I have waited

1076
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:53,160
Speaker 1: years for them to bring this to Broadway. And throughout

1077
00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:54,800
Speaker 1: the I checked them with her again and intermission I

1078
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:56,000
Speaker 1: said that you have in the time of your life.

1079
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,440
Speaker 1: She was like, I'm so happy, and you know, she

1080
00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: was so happy the whole time. And I was like,

1081
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:04,280
Speaker 1: there is something too. I understand, no one can copy

1082
00:59:04,320 --> 00:59:07,320
Speaker 1: Barbara and no one can necessarily be that, and that's

1083
00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:09,400
Speaker 1: ultimately why you might want to try to go to

1084
00:59:09,400 --> 00:59:12,840
Speaker 1: a different way. But when people buy a ticket to

1085
00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:15,040
Speaker 1: a show like this or want to experience something like

1086
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,120
Speaker 1: The Little Mermaid, they want the they want what they remember,

1087
00:59:19,320 --> 00:59:21,680
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like they want they wanted

1088
00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: to feel reverent and like it's like calling back to something,

1089
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 1: because that is what taps into the emotion. That is

1090
00:59:27,920 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 1: what gets people to come up to you know, Jody

1091
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,560
Speaker 1: Benson after she sings a performance and say thank you

1092
00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:34,480
Speaker 1: so much. You'll never know what this means to me.

1093
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,480
Speaker 1: It reminds me of my mother my father a time.

1094
00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,800
Speaker 1: You know, this is a really important like you know,

1095
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:42,520
Speaker 1: my mother, I say on this podcast all the time,

1096
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:44,880
Speaker 1: raised me on this like and when I took my

1097
00:59:44,920 --> 00:59:47,520
Speaker 1: mom and my aunt to see the show for Mother's Day,

1098
00:59:47,600 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 1: like and like I said, I saw an understudy who

1099
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 1: was lovely and great and good at the part, but

1100
00:59:53,440 --> 00:59:57,040
Speaker 1: but was not a stage superstar. So when you see

1101
00:59:57,080 --> 01:00:00,280
Speaker 1: someone do that and deliver that material, it's meaning ful

1102
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 1: for people, you know what I mean. This is a

1103
01:00:02,000 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 1: piece that means something to people, which is why I

1104
01:00:05,000 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 1: think there's so much controversy outside of just the fact

1105
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,600
Speaker 1: that it's like fun, diva, Broadway drama, whatever, it's it's

1106
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:16,600
Speaker 1: it's newsworthy because this piece means something to people. It

1107
01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:22,520
Speaker 1: created an American icon. Yeah, yeah, yeah, and it has

1108
01:00:22,600 --> 01:00:27,320
Speaker 1: that same destructive power to Yes, it's like that's a

1109
01:00:27,440 --> 01:00:30,200
Speaker 1: crazy thing. That's the thing that like we didn't realize

1110
01:00:30,280 --> 01:00:34,080
Speaker 1: until it happened. Is that like, oh ship, Yeah, it's

1111
01:00:34,080 --> 01:00:36,800
Speaker 1: like exactly what you're saying is that the people's people's

1112
01:00:36,840 --> 01:00:42,680
Speaker 1: attachment to this is so powerful. Yes, that it will

1113
01:00:44,280 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: it will just truly like breed conflict and like you know,

1114
01:00:48,840 --> 01:00:52,000
Speaker 1: drama and all this stuff. But um, yeah, it's God.

1115
01:00:52,480 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 1: I really do need to listen to the Jodie Benson

1116
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: interview because it's so you told me about this thing

1117
01:00:56,520 --> 01:01:00,960
Speaker 1: that like she wasn't sure about the notes that that

1118
01:01:01,000 --> 01:01:04,040
Speaker 1: Howard was giving her. And but meanwhile, that's so funny

1119
01:01:04,040 --> 01:01:07,200
Speaker 1: because as an audience member and as like someone who

1120
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: grew up on that movie, you go, I was just

1121
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: listening to the song. I mean, I've been listening to

1122
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:14,120
Speaker 1: Part of Your World on repeat since that trip, since

1123
01:01:14,120 --> 01:01:16,920
Speaker 1: that teaser dropped. But um, just you know, what's so iconic,

1124
01:01:17,520 --> 01:01:20,080
Speaker 1: ready to know what the people know, like just like

1125
01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,920
Speaker 1: how just kind of drops down into the humanity, the

1126
01:01:23,000 --> 01:01:25,440
Speaker 1: humanity of that. And Um, I told you this right

1127
01:01:25,440 --> 01:01:28,960
Speaker 1: speaking of Barbara. Um I was watching some like a

1128
01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: little featurette for the Aladdin DVD when this came out,

1129
01:01:31,680 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 1: like in two thousand and three, I want to say,

1130
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:35,400
Speaker 1: but they did a featurette on it was Howard Ashman's

1131
01:01:35,480 --> 01:01:39,680
Speaker 1: last movie. Um, and they talk about Howard's like these

1132
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: amazing Howard moments and that he first started to get

1133
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:48,080
Speaker 1: really sick when Beauty and the Beast was getting recorded, right, um,

1134
01:01:48,120 --> 01:01:52,320
Speaker 1: and he Jo'hara's in the booth singing, um something there

1135
01:01:52,360 --> 01:01:55,439
Speaker 1: that wasn't there before whatever the yeah whatever whatever it's called.

1136
01:01:55,920 --> 01:01:59,960
Speaker 1: Um and she sings new end up it a lot

1137
01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: arming or new and a bit alarming or something. That's

1138
01:02:04,280 --> 01:02:06,800
Speaker 1: what it is. She sings that, And then they get

1139
01:02:06,800 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 1: Howard on the phone and Howard is can barely speak,

1140
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,560
Speaker 1: is so sick and he can only give like a

1141
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:16,720
Speaker 1: couple of words. You can only communicate in a couple

1142
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:20,800
Speaker 1: of words at a time. But um Ali says over

1143
01:02:20,840 --> 01:02:25,080
Speaker 1: the phone is streisand streisand and they're like what does

1144
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:28,960
Speaker 1: he mean? What does he mean? And then pages like

1145
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: I think I know what he means, and then she

1146
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:37,040
Speaker 1: goes new and deepid alarming, like scoops up like that

1147
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,320
Speaker 1: and the way that Barbara would. And then Howard's like

1148
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,160
Speaker 1: that's what, that's it, that's it, and I'm like, I've

1149
01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,960
Speaker 1: never forgotten that story, and like he can just tap

1150
01:02:45,000 --> 01:02:47,760
Speaker 1: into something. Not only not only can he write lyrics

1151
01:02:47,800 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 1: like what he fucking writes, what he what he wrote

1152
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:54,240
Speaker 1: in his life, but he can give such like notes

1153
01:02:54,280 --> 01:02:57,040
Speaker 1: like that that are that are so specific and so impactful,

1154
01:02:57,760 --> 01:03:00,560
Speaker 1: like think about like they make the song, they make

1155
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:05,120
Speaker 1: the song. He was a true storyteller, I mean, and

1156
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,800
Speaker 1: that is such a great loss. And you really do

1157
01:03:06,960 --> 01:03:10,439
Speaker 1: feel the difference. I mean, like, you know, twenty three

1158
01:03:10,480 --> 01:03:14,880
Speaker 1: just happened, and god it was so rough, but uh,

1159
01:03:15,120 --> 01:03:17,880
Speaker 1: they brought Ariana Debos out to play She's going to

1160
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:19,760
Speaker 1: play a new like a Disney Princess in a new

1161
01:03:19,800 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: two D movie, Wish, and she sang the song and

1162
01:03:23,840 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: the song is by Julia Michaels and the song is

1163
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,560
Speaker 1: a good song, but it's not a Disney magic song,

1164
01:03:29,840 --> 01:03:34,200
Speaker 1: you know. And even in um Hallie Bailey's version of it,

1165
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:39,040
Speaker 1: like and when she when she did the big she

1166
01:03:39,120 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: has that little riff. I actually I had to, like

1167
01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:43,880
Speaker 1: I had to check myself because I was like, oh,

1168
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,919
Speaker 1: I don't like that on instinct, but then I was like, yes,

1169
01:03:47,000 --> 01:03:50,040
Speaker 1: but in context, we haven't heard it, you know what

1170
01:03:50,080 --> 01:03:54,440
Speaker 1: I mean. Maybe she is going to give vocal that

1171
01:03:54,520 --> 01:03:57,240
Speaker 1: travels different places and that will be interesting, but it's

1172
01:03:57,240 --> 01:03:59,200
Speaker 1: going to be up to us to all, like, as

1173
01:03:59,280 --> 01:04:03,200
Speaker 1: big fans of this incredible landmark song, the greatest Disney

1174
01:04:03,200 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: song on history, to check ourselves and be like give

1175
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,720
Speaker 1: it a chance, which is why it's even like Braver

1176
01:04:08,880 --> 01:04:12,360
Speaker 1: and Boulder to play this part, like, because there is

1177
01:04:13,080 --> 01:04:16,520
Speaker 1: one arial that we remember, you know what I mean. Like,

1178
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:19,880
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be crazy, but we're all gonna have

1179
01:04:19,920 --> 01:04:22,840
Speaker 1: to like really take a deep breath before part of

1180
01:04:22,840 --> 01:04:25,760
Speaker 1: your world comes on and pouring unfortunate souls and all

1181
01:04:25,800 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: those numbers. You know totally, but you're so right, We've

1182
01:04:29,400 --> 01:04:35,840
Speaker 1: only known one arial. Yeah, yeah, and it's but I

1183
01:04:35,840 --> 01:04:39,240
Speaker 1: I will say, and it's really special. Just I feel

1184
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:44,439
Speaker 1: like the response to that teaser is overwhelmingly positive. It's positive. Yeah,

1185
01:04:44,440 --> 01:04:47,800
Speaker 1: I was, I was, I truly I took my breath away.

1186
01:04:48,400 --> 01:04:50,280
Speaker 1: I had a similar response where I had to go,

1187
01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:55,240
Speaker 1: did I like that be I think I did, but

1188
01:04:55,400 --> 01:04:57,680
Speaker 1: I immediately thought back to that Jody Benson thing where

1189
01:04:57,680 --> 01:05:01,280
Speaker 1: I was like, this is why I know why I

1190
01:05:01,480 --> 01:05:04,160
Speaker 1: might not like it. But I think, like you said,

1191
01:05:04,320 --> 01:05:07,720
Speaker 1: I need to listen to it in context because I

1192
01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,520
Speaker 1: feel like the movie is doing from from from what

1193
01:05:10,560 --> 01:05:13,560
Speaker 1: you're seeing in this teaser. I feel like it will

1194
01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:19,200
Speaker 1: have a really nice balance between honoring the visuals, the

1195
01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 1: original visuals. I feel like I look at some of

1196
01:05:21,840 --> 01:05:24,520
Speaker 1: these shots, I'm like, oh, it looks like it looks

1197
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 1: like from the movie, from the original movie. It's an

1198
01:05:28,040 --> 01:05:30,080
Speaker 1: attachment that we have, you know what I mean. It's

1199
01:05:30,080 --> 01:05:32,840
Speaker 1: like it's just hard, so strong, it's so strong. It's

1200
01:05:32,840 --> 01:05:35,160
Speaker 1: like it's like you live your whole life with one

1201
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:39,720
Speaker 1: mom and then you're like, hey, we rebooted your mom. Yeah,

1202
01:05:40,080 --> 01:05:42,160
Speaker 1: this is your mom. No, this is your mom. You

1203
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 1: just just doesn't look or sound like her, but it's her.

1204
01:05:45,720 --> 01:05:49,720
Speaker 1: Hug her, hug her, now love her. Oh my god,

1205
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:52,760
Speaker 1: no way. And it's just very hard. But I will

1206
01:05:52,800 --> 01:05:57,880
Speaker 1: say this, she looks and sounds fucking fab perfect and

1207
01:05:58,520 --> 01:06:01,600
Speaker 1: she will be stunning and the way she's looking up

1208
01:06:01,640 --> 01:06:05,480
Speaker 1: at that at that crest of the ocean, Honey, the

1209
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 1: way that she looks up untail. She wants to be

1210
01:06:07,320 --> 01:06:10,680
Speaker 1: part of the world. I said, I really hope she does.

1211
01:06:10,880 --> 01:06:14,680
Speaker 1: And it snow spoilers, but I think it will end

1212
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:19,440
Speaker 1: really happy for Ariel. Oh my god, really what spoilers.

1213
01:06:19,960 --> 01:06:22,200
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, based on source material and some

1214
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,800
Speaker 1: things I've been hearing, I think that the Little might

1215
01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,520
Speaker 1: end very happy for Ariel. W I hope so wink

1216
01:06:28,600 --> 01:06:33,640
Speaker 1: wink what I hope so too, Queena. I hope so

1217
01:06:33,720 --> 01:06:36,200
Speaker 1: too Queena. When she I mean, when Halley comes in

1218
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:42,480
Speaker 1: with out like she she gives it some volume and

1219
01:06:42,520 --> 01:06:47,800
Speaker 1: it's really good. I think it's chotic. I actually love it.

1220
01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, come on, I don't think so, honey,

1221
01:06:51,640 --> 01:06:53,840
Speaker 1: because I have to go to a fitting. Okay, but

1222
01:06:54,400 --> 01:06:58,800
Speaker 1: very quickly I should say, Okay, the Jetta bush Hagar

1223
01:06:58,840 --> 01:07:02,040
Speaker 1: stuff with the Queen's death timeline is crazy. Didn't talk

1224
01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,479
Speaker 1: about the queen. You want to know why. It's because

1225
01:07:03,520 --> 01:07:05,800
Speaker 1: the Leam Michelle, a literacy meme has taken up more

1226
01:07:05,800 --> 01:07:09,600
Speaker 1: media space on period. My god, that's not true period,

1227
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:13,720
Speaker 1: But okay, so Jennial Shaker was at was at some

1228
01:07:13,800 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 1: castle with Charles King Charles now Charles and Camilla the

1229
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,760
Speaker 1: night before the Queen passed away and they had a

1230
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: great time whatever, But the timelines don't match up with

1231
01:07:22,600 --> 01:07:25,000
Speaker 1: when she showed up to their castle to do an

1232
01:07:25,000 --> 01:07:28,400
Speaker 1: interview the next day, and when Charles and Camilla were

1233
01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,800
Speaker 1: whisked away on a helicopter to go to bell Moral.

1234
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 1: And there's some interesting things going on there with the

1235
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,480
Speaker 1: release of the information of when the queen passed away.

1236
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 1: And so it's just so funny to me that are

1237
01:07:42,680 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: our friend Jana Bushaker j B H two asked if

1238
01:07:48,480 --> 01:07:51,200
Speaker 1: she could come to Fire Island with us. Um is

1239
01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:53,160
Speaker 1: a part of this now, as a part of this

1240
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: global historic death. Anything you want to say about the

1241
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:05,400
Speaker 1: queen slay what about you? It's so shocking, like you

1242
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:08,160
Speaker 1: really realize, like how what a different world they live

1243
01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 1: in that they are. There are people that are in

1244
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:16,000
Speaker 1: their nineties who for their entire life, every single day

1245
01:08:16,000 --> 01:08:18,000
Speaker 1: of their life, they were told to worship this person

1246
01:08:18,080 --> 01:08:19,960
Speaker 1: and now this person has gone, so of course they're

1247
01:08:19,960 --> 01:08:23,160
Speaker 1: in morning. I mean, like she lived so long as

1248
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 1: like a deity in that country. But wow, I couldn't

1249
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:28,720
Speaker 1: care less, you know what I mean, not just like

1250
01:08:28,840 --> 01:08:30,439
Speaker 1: not that, not that I couldn't care less that a

1251
01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:35,000
Speaker 1: human person is dead, but it's just wild to buy

1252
01:08:35,040 --> 01:08:38,680
Speaker 1: into something just because of a bloodline, you know what

1253
01:08:38,720 --> 01:08:43,400
Speaker 1: I mean. And these people are so disgusting, like Prince

1254
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 1: Andrew still hanging out like these people are gross now

1255
01:08:47,680 --> 01:08:52,000
Speaker 1: the king is King Charles Andrew. Prince Andrew has the Corgis.

1256
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:56,839
Speaker 1: Andrew and Fergie have the corgies. This is so awful

1257
01:08:56,880 --> 01:09:00,840
Speaker 1: to me, those dogs with that fucking monster, these people

1258
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,880
Speaker 1: and honestly, like down to the bone like all of them,

1259
01:09:05,960 --> 01:09:10,040
Speaker 1: they're just like they're so entitled and wretched and it

1260
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 1: is built on colonialism. And I understand that the Queen

1261
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: became a figurehead and tried to move the country through

1262
01:09:15,280 --> 01:09:17,240
Speaker 1: with dignity and grace, etcetera. And I get that a

1263
01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:19,719
Speaker 1: lot of people care and have a different cultural view

1264
01:09:19,840 --> 01:09:22,640
Speaker 1: on this than me, but like, wow, I'm sorry, but

1265
01:09:22,680 --> 01:09:24,479
Speaker 1: you have to end up like you have to call

1266
01:09:24,520 --> 01:09:26,240
Speaker 1: it like you see at a certain point, and they're

1267
01:09:26,280 --> 01:09:29,240
Speaker 1: just like the Prince Andrew of it all for me,

1268
01:09:29,360 --> 01:09:32,080
Speaker 1: like it's it's it's sure, if it wasn't, if it

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01:09:32,160 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: wasn't the toxic, disgusting way this country establishes itself all

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Speaker 1: around the world and colonizes. Then it's that not to

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01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:41,240
Speaker 1: be like too good for it all. But like also, honey,

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Speaker 1: like it is what it is. We're we're we're stepping

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Speaker 1: on my I don't think so, honey, But okay, do

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01:09:46,040 --> 01:09:47,880
Speaker 1: it will hold on, hold on, no, no no, no, okay,

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Speaker 1: hold on. But I will say that I think the

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01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: reason what you're saying about these nine year olds who

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01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: have worshiped this person and this maybe this family their

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01:09:55,320 --> 01:09:57,760
Speaker 1: whole lives, that is important because that is it is

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01:09:57,800 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 1: a loss of meaning for so many people in that

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01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,040
Speaker 1: country and around the world. Let's say, and so they

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01:10:03,160 --> 01:10:06,800
Speaker 1: and therefore, and I don't think it's attachment. His majesty, King,

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01:10:07,000 --> 01:10:11,240
Speaker 1: his Highness, King Charles is the person to like make

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01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 1: sure this gets upheld. He that he will not uphold

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01:10:13,960 --> 01:10:16,679
Speaker 1: the meaning of this because he's a flower peop don't

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01:10:16,960 --> 01:10:20,439
Speaker 1: people don't like him. And also he's just like it's

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01:10:20,479 --> 01:10:22,639
Speaker 1: just it's just it's it's just not gonna work. People

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01:10:22,640 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: are not going to hang the same amount of meaning,

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01:10:26,800 --> 01:10:30,840
Speaker 1: absolutely not onto that man. No, he has been maligned

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01:10:31,000 --> 01:10:33,040
Speaker 1: by so many people for so long. I saw this

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01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:34,680
Speaker 1: video like they were there was like I think it

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01:10:34,720 --> 01:10:36,519
Speaker 1: was like BBC or whatever, like in the streets, just

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01:10:36,560 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 1: asking people how they felt about the passing of the queen,

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01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 1: and this one girl was like, you know, I think

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01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:46,040
Speaker 1: it's sad when anyone gets to that point, Um, she's passed.

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01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,200
Speaker 1: But also like I'm not a fan of the queen

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01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: or the monarchy, and like why because if they have

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01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:54,080
Speaker 1: to ask why at this point, I don't know. The colonization,

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01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:56,680
Speaker 1: the Prince Andrew stuff is a little weird, like she

1299
01:10:56,720 --> 01:10:59,200
Speaker 1: stops sort of saying any Diana stuff. But like also

1300
01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:01,599
Speaker 1: that like any depiction of them, like you're not gonna

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01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:05,040
Speaker 1: love Charles after it because he's shitty, and like, yeah,

1302
01:11:05,040 --> 01:11:07,880
Speaker 1: like she was very important to them because I think

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01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 1: in many ways, like she was keeping a pretty divided country,

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01:11:13,360 --> 01:11:17,840
Speaker 1: like arguably more so than our country, like kind of

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01:11:17,880 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: together at least in like a cultural fabric that hadn't

1306
01:11:21,560 --> 01:11:25,880
Speaker 1: been ripped apart yet. But Charles is extremely polarizing. I mean,

1307
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:30,280
Speaker 1: like perhaps even more polarizing effect on the country is

1308
01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:43,400
Speaker 1: just like you know, ascended to the throne. So yeah,

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01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:44,960
Speaker 1: do you want to hear I don't think so, honey,

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01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,120
Speaker 1: Chris it's on theme. You go first, Sure, I'll go first. Okay, Well,

1311
01:11:48,360 --> 01:11:52,240
Speaker 1: I guess what everyone this is iconic Bowen Yang's I

1312
01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:54,800
Speaker 1: don't think so, honey, And as time says, now, I

1313
01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,479
Speaker 1: don't think so honey, g Q putting it a story

1314
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,840
Speaker 1: that calls King Charles the third up men where icon

1315
01:12:00,960 --> 01:12:05,320
Speaker 1: and he's been one for ages. Let's please not do this. Okay.

1316
01:12:05,400 --> 01:12:09,960
Speaker 1: The man grew up with argyle bolts of clothing around him.

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01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:13,000
Speaker 1: He didn't have to like find it for himself. Someone

1318
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:16,040
Speaker 1: gave those things to him. He was given a roll X,

1319
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:20,519
Speaker 1: he was given a Longene's watch, he was given the stuff. Okay.

1320
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:24,519
Speaker 1: He did not have to curate this for himself. And

1321
01:12:25,080 --> 01:12:27,520
Speaker 1: he needs all the help he can get to distract

1322
01:12:27,520 --> 01:12:32,000
Speaker 1: from that crazy face he has. It's crazy. Please, let's

1323
01:12:32,040 --> 01:12:35,679
Speaker 1: not do this. Let's not call him a style icon.

1324
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,599
Speaker 1: He doesn't need to be called that. He doesn't want

1325
01:12:38,640 --> 01:12:41,639
Speaker 1: to be called that. He does any of this. Let's

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01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:44,040
Speaker 1: just like be a little bit more sparing with us.

1327
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:46,559
Speaker 1: I mean that this is this is where the word

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01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 1: icon is sort of hit its peak and the nator

1329
01:12:49,560 --> 01:12:52,760
Speaker 1: like we're we're going downhill from here. No more use

1330
01:12:52,800 --> 01:12:55,839
Speaker 1: the word icon that applies to us. I'm sorry that. Okay,

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01:12:56,120 --> 01:12:58,040
Speaker 1: that's one minute. I'm so sorry. I take it back.

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01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:00,080
Speaker 1: You're not an icon, I take it back, thank you.

1333
01:13:00,080 --> 01:13:02,760
Speaker 1: And you're not an icon either. You're an icon consort.

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01:13:04,960 --> 01:13:07,479
Speaker 1: I'm the camilla to the icon. You're the camilla to

1335
01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:10,120
Speaker 1: icon status. You're we We are both icon consorts. Actually

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01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:15,800
Speaker 1: it's really culture number twelve. We are both consorts. I'm

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01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:19,320
Speaker 1: comfortable with that. I'm very comfortable with that. Oh God, okay,

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01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 1: I have one I must do. Here we go. This

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01:13:21,840 --> 01:13:23,880
Speaker 1: is Matt Rodgers. I don't think so honyes time starts now.

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01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:26,559
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. No Bravo in Canada. Okay,

1341
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:29,120
Speaker 1: what am I supposed to do with any second of

1342
01:13:29,160 --> 01:13:32,960
Speaker 1: my life? That's not working. I'm here in Toronto, Ontario, Canada,

1343
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:35,439
Speaker 1: and you can't get Bravo here. I guess they just

1344
01:13:35,520 --> 01:13:38,040
Speaker 1: don't know who Erica Jane even is. So how do

1345
01:13:38,120 --> 01:13:40,040
Speaker 1: they know how to commisserate in the streets about how

1346
01:13:40,080 --> 01:13:42,600
Speaker 1: evil she has become? I don't think so honey that

1347
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:45,040
Speaker 1: I've watched The Real Housewives Ever Atlanta reunion. I can't

1348
01:13:45,040 --> 01:13:47,200
Speaker 1: weigh in on the seating chart. I can't tell you

1349
01:13:47,240 --> 01:13:50,960
Speaker 1: if Shari. Sorry, say not got my Shari Rays confused.

1350
01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:56,519
Speaker 1: I can't tell you or you know Marlowe deserved to

1351
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:58,600
Speaker 1: be next to next to Andy at three Union. I

1352
01:13:58,640 --> 01:14:00,679
Speaker 1: don't know how they're presenting the drama of the season.

1353
01:14:00,960 --> 01:14:03,000
Speaker 1: I have not seen anything. I don't know what I'm

1354
01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 1: gonna do over the next two weeks. We got big

1355
01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: Asthment episodes and I gotta watch him the next day.

1356
01:14:06,760 --> 01:14:08,519
Speaker 1: Usually I do that on Peacock. But I gotta tell

1357
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,280
Speaker 1: you something. I don't think you want to know Peacock.

1358
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:13,519
Speaker 1: In Canada, you can't even get the cock. I'm gonna

1359
01:14:13,520 --> 01:14:15,640
Speaker 1: have to search high, low, and far to try to

1360
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:18,240
Speaker 1: download on iTunes, like it's the year nineteen o two.

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01:14:19,240 --> 01:14:22,280
Speaker 1: Downloading on iTunes, I don't think so. Honey, no Bravo,

1362
01:14:23,280 --> 01:14:27,280
Speaker 1: that's no Bravo and that's one minute, honey, v P

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01:14:27,760 --> 01:14:31,000
Speaker 1: and get the VPN on the computer. Everything here is

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01:14:31,040 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: on something called Crave. And it was so funny because

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01:14:33,280 --> 01:14:36,240
Speaker 1: during the Emmys it was like congratulations to Crave on

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01:14:36,280 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 1: their staggering amount of nominations more than any other network.

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01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, mama, there's no other Everything. It's like

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01:14:41,800 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 1: Crave is like water. It's like there's no alternative to it.

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01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,519
Speaker 1: It's like you gotta drink water. You can do drink milk.

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01:14:47,840 --> 01:14:52,000
Speaker 1: Milk doesn't have any nominations this year. Water has all

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01:14:52,000 --> 01:14:54,599
Speaker 1: the nominations every year. It's so sad from milk. It's

1372
01:14:54,600 --> 01:14:59,000
Speaker 1: not the nineties anymore. Boo damn. They had their momentum

1373
01:14:59,040 --> 01:15:02,519
Speaker 1: getta VPN and then to watch it on. I'll teach

1374
01:15:02,520 --> 01:15:04,200
Speaker 1: you how to do it. Teach me how to do it,

1375
01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:05,920
Speaker 1: Teach me how to doug you, teach me, teach me

1376
01:15:05,960 --> 01:15:07,640
Speaker 1: how to tug you, and teach me how to tug you.

1377
01:15:07,640 --> 01:15:09,639
Speaker 1: Teach me teach me how to juggy um you want

1378
01:15:09,640 --> 01:15:11,439
Speaker 1: to end? Every episode of the songs has been an

1379
01:15:11,560 --> 01:15:14,800
Speaker 1: iconic culture Sorry, but really good culture. Catch up, really

1380
01:15:14,800 --> 01:15:18,599
Speaker 1: good culture catch up. Yes, let's end. It must have

1381
01:15:18,680 --> 01:15:31,880
Speaker 1: been cold in my shop, sad. It's never you context

1382
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:39,280
Speaker 1: to let me sh that's your way. You always walked,

1383
01:15:39,600 --> 01:15:50,000
Speaker 1: step be hid. Did you ever know let? Oh? No, no,

1384
01:15:50,080 --> 01:16:00,080
Speaker 1: never be? Did you ever know? You're every good you

1385
01:16:00,200 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: need me? I could fly you go because you are

1386
01:16:10,160 --> 01:16:17,840
Speaker 1: the one. The wind may my. That one goes out

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01:16:17,920 --> 01:16:22,360
Speaker 1: to all of the EMS producers. Bye bye,