Speaker 1: Misspelling with Tory spelling and iHeartRadio podcast. Hi you guys,
Speaker 1: So I have a Tory story for you. Actually, my
Speaker 1: boy Bessie, Brian Austin Green told me that I need
Speaker 1: to tell this story, and he told me this is
Speaker 1: my next toy story, so I'm going with it. So
Speaker 1: this past weekend, Brian and I went to New York
Speaker 1: on this top secret mission thing that's happening that I
Speaker 1: can't talk about. That we had to sign all kinds
Speaker 1: of NDAs and it's something really really cool and really
Speaker 1: really special. So it kind of happened out of nowhere
Speaker 1: and it's really awesome and you guys are gonna love
Speaker 1: it and I can't wait to share it with you anyway. Okay,
Speaker 1: bean gave me energy. Okay, I love work. Anyway. Ruthanne
Speaker 1: and I flew from LA to New York. We've been
Speaker 1: traveling all day and everything happened so fast. I was
Speaker 1: like it was like one of those things like pack
Speaker 1: a bag, get on the plane, and go. So I
Speaker 1: actually didn't have any makeup on, and I had my
Speaker 1: sunglasses and I had a beanie on. I was in
Speaker 1: my sweats and we got to the hotel late at
Speaker 1: night and Brian and his manager Tracy had gotten in
Speaker 1: and they were like, oh, you know, we're at the
Speaker 1: bar if you guys want to join us. And I
Speaker 1: literally said to Ruthan like, oh my god, no, I
Speaker 1: can't see Brian right now. I don't have makeup on.
Speaker 1: Did I not say this, Ruthman, you totally said it.
Speaker 1: I did.
Speaker 2: I understood, not because I thought you didn't look amazing,
Speaker 2: but I understand that feeling a female.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lot of things as women that I
Speaker 1: think we you know, my god, boys are so lucky.
Speaker 1: But I actually have always loved the fact that, you know,
Speaker 1: we do get to put on makeup, and we do
Speaker 1: get to adjust how we appear to others physically, at
Speaker 1: least I thought I did. So anyway, we check in
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my gosh, I don't know,
Speaker 1: just tell them we're tired, and I just we're shooting
Speaker 1: early in the morning, and all of a sudden, as
Speaker 1: we go to the Elvare, I'm like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: they're right there, and I'm like, okay, I want to
Speaker 1: see Brian and Tracy. Anyway, so we go over and
Speaker 1: it was it was one of those things that everything
Speaker 1: happens for a reason. So we go over and we're
Speaker 1: all like, you know, talking, and we're having a drink
Speaker 1: and Brian and I decide to go to the bar.
Speaker 1: So we go to the bar to get everyone another
Speaker 1: round of drinks. And we were just having like one
Speaker 1: or two drinks and then going to bed, and he
Speaker 1: says to me at the bar, do you know I'm
Speaker 1: not this isn't for batim, but basically, do you know
Speaker 1: how pretty look with less makeup? And that tanks me
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, I knew this
Speaker 1: was going to happen. And I turned into that sixteen
Speaker 1: year old girl around Brian Green again, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm not kidding. I told Ruth and I didn't want
Speaker 1: to see you tonight because I don't have makeup on.
Speaker 1: And he's like that's ridiculous. He goes, you look so
Speaker 1: beautiful with less makeup, and he's such a good man, like,
Speaker 1: you know, he chose his words carefully, not no makeup,
Speaker 1: he said, with less makeup. So I was like, gosh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't see it. So we got
Speaker 1: into this conversation about he said, you know, not only
Speaker 1: do you look prettier, because we could see your face like,
Speaker 1: but you look younger, and it became this whole thing.
Speaker 1: We then got back to the table. Did we start
Speaker 1: talking to you guys about it when we got back
Speaker 1: to the table.
Speaker 2: Yes, and Tracy and I concurred with Brian, but you
Speaker 2: would never hear it from certainly you wouldn't hear it
Speaker 2: from me.
Speaker 1: Maybe a little bit from Tracy, but more so. And
Speaker 1: what I ended up saying, and I don't know if
Speaker 1: this is at the bar when we came back to
Speaker 1: the table, was that I don't know, I feel like
Speaker 1: I've been so conditioned my whole life being in the
Speaker 1: public eye and having your looks just torn apart from
Speaker 1: a young age. I mean literally, not literally like like
Speaker 1: I don't know the moment it was, the exact moment.
Speaker 2: I know.
Speaker 1: It was when I was seventeen and the Globe magazine
Speaker 1: which doesn't even exist, but a tabloid, this is when
Speaker 1: there were paper tabloids, came out with a story. It
Speaker 1: was like, you know, the Inquirer, the Globe was like
Speaker 1: it was a big one and nine, O two and
Speaker 1: zero was in the Tayday. I was seventeen, though, you know,
Speaker 1: it's like the second season. Itd just blown up and
Speaker 1: all these pictures of me, saying Tory Spelling has had
Speaker 1: all this plastic surgery. I was like seventeen, Like I
Speaker 1: had my nose done at sixteen, but like you know,
Speaker 1: it's it. Keep in mind, you guys, this is the nineties,
Speaker 1: not today, when you know there's so much available and
Speaker 1: people do botox and they do all different things, starting young.
Speaker 1: And it said a source says. They always say a
Speaker 1: source says, which means no one really said it, but
Speaker 1: possibly they showed pictures of me when I was like nine,
Speaker 1: or when I was like twelve, and it says people
Speaker 1: that went to high school with her knew her, and
Speaker 1: elementary so she looks completely different. And it went on
Speaker 1: to say things like I had had cheecken plants and
Speaker 1: a chinen plant and ribs removed. It was the wildest thing.
Speaker 1: And I'm looking at these pictures and I'm a seventeen
Speaker 1: year old girl, and I had just gotten it from
Speaker 1: the news stand, which doesn't really exist anymore in Westwood,
Speaker 1: and I was driving back home. We had just moved
Speaker 1: into the manor, so I was driving home and I
Speaker 1: remember pulling into my parents' driveway and I called my dad.
Speaker 1: He was at work, and I was in tears, and
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my god, I don't know what
Speaker 1: I'm seeing. But they're saying I've had all this plastic
Speaker 1: surgery and like I've had nothing done. And my dad
Speaker 1: was like, always the eternal optimist. He was like, Babe,
Speaker 1: when they're talking about you, it's good press is press
Speaker 1: bad or good, and they'll move on to someone else
Speaker 1: next week. And I was like, okay, okay, let me
Speaker 1: try to think of it that way. But it was
Speaker 1: devastating because I want it to be like, first of all,
Speaker 1: I look completely different. Was something wrong with me before?
Speaker 1: You know, we have those like weird moments we go
Speaker 1: through in life, like your formative years and you're like
Speaker 1: a tween, like you know, I had like baby fat cheeks,
Speaker 1: and you know, now my face was thinning out. But
Speaker 1: I hadn't had cheek and plants, I hadn't had my
Speaker 1: chin redone, and I certainly hadn't had ribs removed. I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my gosh, how do you even do that?
Speaker 1: Like I'd always had a thin frame my dad and mom.
Speaker 1: My dad was then my mom is thin, Like I
Speaker 1: had not even thought about dieting or anything. But I'll
Speaker 1: never forget that day because my dad said, don't worry,
Speaker 1: they'll be on to someone else next week. But that
Speaker 1: never went away, that story. And I know we're talking
Speaker 1: about Brian and him saying I should wear less makeup,
Speaker 1: but this is where it started, with me thinking I
Speaker 1: needed to wear makeup. So I have to go back
Speaker 1: to the beginning. But I was seventeen and the press
Speaker 1: never let that go. I am fifty two right now,
Speaker 1: and if you look up any comments about me, not
Speaker 1: just from the press, like fans read into it, people
Speaker 1: like my very existence is tory spelling. I remember I'd
Speaker 1: read stuff when Michael Jackson was still alive, like the
Speaker 1: only other person that's had more plastic surgery than Michael
Speaker 1: Jackson is tory spelling it Like that one tabloid's story
Speaker 1: stayed with me my entire life, and you know what,
Speaker 1: it fucked me up, like it. Not only was I
Speaker 1: like thrust into like stardom at an early age, living
Speaker 1: out my bad moments good moments on TV for the world,
Speaker 1: but I was a seventeen year old girl that didn't
Speaker 1: think I looked bad. I didn't think I looked that bad.
Speaker 1: I definitely had had my nose done, which you know,
Speaker 1: at sixteen. Nowadays, I think that's way too young. But
Speaker 1: back in the day, it was a it was a thing.
Speaker 1: You know, when you turned sixteen, you know, disgussed it
Speaker 1: with your parents and you got yours done. And other
Speaker 1: than that, though I don't know, I was just like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I must be like a troll. I
Speaker 1: must be the ugliest human alive if they think I've
Speaker 1: had to have all this stuff to even be where
Speaker 1: I am now. And then the comments just kept going.
Speaker 1: And as much as I say I have thick skin, like,
Speaker 1: it really stayed with me my whole life, to the
Speaker 1: point where people still say on comments on my Instagram,
Speaker 1: I post something like, oh my gosh, lay off the filler,
Speaker 1: lay off the bowtox. Stop getting so much plastic surgery.
Speaker 1: And I'm not supposed to interact with people saying, you know,
Speaker 1: mean things. I'm sped to just take it on the chin, right,
Speaker 1: But I haven't had my chin done. I don't have
Speaker 1: filler like I have no filler in my face, you
Speaker 1: guys like I've had botox. So I went the other direction.
Speaker 1: I feel I at fifty two, I look at all
Speaker 1: this stuff on social media. I see women my age
Speaker 1: that have had lasers done, they've had you know, they've
Speaker 1: had lower face lifts, they've had things done. I've had
Speaker 1: nothing done because I'm so terrified of what people will
Speaker 1: say because they already say I had stuff done that
Speaker 1: I haven't had done. So I'm like super careful. Like
Speaker 1: when I get my boatox and I do I get botox,
Speaker 1: I'm always like, don't do too much. People think I've
Speaker 1: had something else done. Like it has really messed me
Speaker 1: up of how I perceive myself. And I think makeup
Speaker 1: plays into that because I always thought, gosh, I must
Speaker 1: be unattractive, and in order to be attractive, what does
Speaker 1: a female do? Oh, we have that choice. We can
Speaker 1: add makeup, we can put on a quote unquote beauty mask. Right.
Speaker 1: So I always wore a lot of makeup, and you
Speaker 1: know now that, especially in the last year, the whole
Speaker 1: you know, Pamela Anderson and the whole no makeup look
Speaker 1: is back in. That messed me up too, because I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I'm trying to change with
Speaker 1: the times. I don't even feel comfortable wearing, you know,
Speaker 1: less meat. So yeah, that's where that started and Brian
Speaker 1: said you should try it, and he's like, you should
Speaker 1: try wearing less makeup, and I was like, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know where I would start. First of all,
Speaker 1: I actually love makeup the application. I feel like I'm
Speaker 1: really good at it. And it's so it is an
Speaker 1: expression on one hand, like I get my nails done
Speaker 1: and I get, you know, crazy nails. Sometimes I'm like,
Speaker 1: that's me expressing myself. So I do do like good
Speaker 1: eye makeup, and when I do a lot of eye makeup,
Speaker 1: I'm expressing myself. But that's not completely true. After we talked,
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm hiding myself. So's it's both
Speaker 1: at the same time. And we were about to do
Speaker 1: this big thing and I was like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: really and he said, well, you know, maybe just don't
Speaker 1: do everything at once, like do like if you're married
Speaker 1: to doing a lot of eyes, do less foundation. I
Speaker 1: was like, but my skin, and my skin is terrible,
Speaker 1: and he's like, your skin is great, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm so confused, Like I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm looking at when I look in the mirror
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing things that other people don't see, and
Speaker 1: I trust Brian with my life, so if someone randomly
Speaker 1: tells me this, and of course, you know, I'm thinking
Speaker 1: that whole thing, like, oh, men always say they like
Speaker 1: women with less makeup, So I'm like, are you sure
Speaker 1: it's not just that guy thing, because I've heard this before.
Speaker 1: I've heard it from my ex husband, I've heard it
Speaker 1: from the guys i've been with, like you look so
Speaker 1: pretty with no makeup, and I'm like, they don't mean it.
Speaker 1: He's like, no, you really do. So long story short,
Speaker 1: we did this big, top secret thing the next day,
Speaker 1: and I definitely came into it with the mindset of
Speaker 1: you know, me go you know, go big or go home.
Speaker 1: So I wasn't like, let me try this out on
Speaker 1: an Instagram photo. I chose to choose like this huge
Speaker 1: project to be like, I'm gonna were less makeup. So
Speaker 1: I did, and Brian and I were on set and
Speaker 1: I was like so, and he's like, you look beautiful.
Speaker 1: You wore less makeup and you look so good. And
Speaker 1: I was like, he goes, how does it feel? And
Speaker 1: I go, I actually feel pretty good? And I noticed
Speaker 1: the podcast so you can only see the social clips,
Speaker 1: but I'm literally wearing basically no makeup today. Wow, it
Speaker 1: really helps my schedule because I can get so much
Speaker 1: more done if I don't have to take like thirty
Speaker 1: months in my makeup. But I really did like how
Speaker 1: I looked, and it just like But then we came
Speaker 1: back from this project and I was on Instagram and
Speaker 1: I'm seeing all these people with you know, the majorly
Speaker 1: defined eyebrows and the eye makeup, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: but isn't that the look that looks better on me?
Speaker 1: And anyway, I'm talking to you guys about it because
Speaker 1: I'm a little confused. So it's I'm in the moment
Speaker 1: of going through this process and I thought, well, I
Speaker 1: tell you guys everything. I'm an open book now, an
Speaker 1: open face with no makeup. But it's so I don't
Speaker 1: know him, and where did I land on that. I
Speaker 1: don't know, to be honest, but I think it's an
Speaker 1: important conversation, not just for me, like it's a conversation
Speaker 1: all women. Chef my sixteen year old daughter, she gets
Speaker 1: up an hour and a half before school every day
Speaker 1: to do her makeup. She does amazing makeup, like the
Speaker 1: most gorgeous eyes, and for her, I get it because
Speaker 1: she's very creative and part of her she's like, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure do I want to do I want to
Speaker 1: be a baker, Do I want to be a makeup artist?
Speaker 1: Like she has so many different things, a fashion design,
Speaker 1: She's so good at everything that I tell her. I
Speaker 1: remember we we had to go somewhere recently and she's like,
Speaker 1: I don't know any makeup on. And I was like,
Speaker 1: you look beautiful without makeup. And I heard myself, this
Speaker 1: is before Brian told me the other day, this is
Speaker 1: like two weeks ago. And I heard myself saying what
Speaker 1: I have been told before by other people. Don't worry
Speaker 1: about it. You look beautiful without makeup. And I stopped
Speaker 1: myself and I said, I get it though, because I do.
Speaker 1: Does she look gorgeous with not a stitch of makeup? Unbelievable.
Speaker 1: She's also sixteen, Like it's harder for me at fifty
Speaker 1: two to rationalize now being like, no, I'm not going
Speaker 1: to wear makeup. But I get it. It's a real
Speaker 1: thing once it's in your head. And we have social media,
Speaker 1: like we see all this stuff where like it's a
Speaker 1: tough thing and it's like to makeup or not makeup?
Speaker 1: What is the answer, And I don't know. I'm not sure,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure if I look in the mirror
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, I look younger without makeup, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I see what Brian sees. But I definitely
Speaker 1: there's something to it. And I wonder at fifty two, like,
Speaker 1: can I readjust my brain to actually see something that
Speaker 1: I haven't seen all these years, something that's part of me?
Speaker 1: And is that part of self growth and loving yourself?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I'm posing all these questions that I
Speaker 1: don't have answers to because it's happening in the moment
Speaker 1: right now. Brian's gonna be so proud I did this
Speaker 1: podcast with no makeup today. But here I am, and like,
Speaker 1: I guarantee you guys, if I put a picture of
Speaker 1: myself on social today with no makeup, people will still
Speaker 1: be like, look at all the plastic surgery she's had done.
Speaker 1: People will listen to this podcast and will hear me
Speaker 1: say the words I have not had all this work
Speaker 1: done that I'm like supposedly had all these years, and
Speaker 1: they will still choose to believe an article that came
Speaker 1: out when I was seventeen years old. It's just like
Speaker 1: this thing that has stayed with me my entire life.
Speaker 1: I wish I could shed it, Like I'm sure one
Speaker 1: day I'll want to have something done in my face,
Speaker 1: and I don't want to be scared not to because
Speaker 1: I'm scared what people are going to think because they
Speaker 1: already think it, Or do I just do it because
Speaker 1: they already assume I've done it? Anyway, I don't know,
Speaker 1: it's such an odd thing, what an odd conversation.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, I think I think most women grapple with this.
Speaker 3: You know, in a perfect world, the rule would be
Speaker 3: you do what makes you feel good about you, not
Speaker 3: because you're responding to negative feedback if you don't, or
Speaker 3: even negative feedback in your head.
Speaker 2: But that's easier said than done. You know, it'd be
Speaker 2: great if every time somebody said, oh, you look great
Speaker 2: without makeup, or you look you know, you look young,
Speaker 2: or whatever, we believed it. I mean, I think the
Speaker 2: problem is more what goes on inside our heads as
Speaker 2: opposed to what the external is saying. And that's work
Speaker 2: everybody has to do on themselves.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's really hard in a world where we're shown
Speaker 1: to extremes right now, right like there's people that were
Speaker 1: a lot of makeup, Like not that they don't look great,
Speaker 1: but like the Kardashians set a whole trend with makeup,
Speaker 1: you know, with that that look, you know, and it
Speaker 1: was definitely major makeup, defined contouring eyes, and you know what,
Speaker 1: Sometimes when I watch their show and there's some scenes
Speaker 1: where they have no makeup on They've just spontaneously done it,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I say the same thing. I'm like, Kim
Speaker 1: looks so pretty with no makeup, and I'm like thinking,
Speaker 1: in my head, oh my god, this is the age
Speaker 1: old thing, Like what is it? So it's either you
Speaker 1: wear all that makeup and you look great, or now
Speaker 1: you wear no makeup and you're just like this is me,
Speaker 1: you know, and this is my age. And so what's
Speaker 1: the in between? I don't know. And we're always depending
Speaker 1: on society to tell us like, oh, this is in
Speaker 1: right now. So I don't know, no makeup's in right now,
Speaker 1: but like in a year, it might be something completely different.
Speaker 1: So I understand you're supposed to do what works best
Speaker 1: for you, but it's really hard, I think in life.
Speaker 1: I'm not just saying because I'm in the public eye, Like, no,
Speaker 1: I am saying because I'm in the public eye. I
Speaker 1: want to apologize for a second. Sorry, like how I
Speaker 1: tried to do that, Like it's not about me, No,
Speaker 1: it is. It's much harder having been in people's living room,
Speaker 1: you know, since I was a teenager. Now I do
Speaker 1: a rewatch, you know, watching myself back as a teenager, thinking,
Speaker 1: I do think when I watched nine o two one,
Speaker 1: oh and Jenny and Amy, and I watch it back
Speaker 1: on nine O two one. OMG, I do watch Donna
Speaker 1: through a different lens now, and I definitely am able
Speaker 1: to see now because I know then I used to
Speaker 1: cry in the makeup chair. I used to cry. And
Speaker 1: I remember my makeup artist, Nick I had a male,
Speaker 1: a straight male makeup artist that was very and back then,
Speaker 1: and he was married with kids, and I would just
Speaker 1: be hysterically crying. I had some bad boyfriend that told
Speaker 1: me I was ugly. I'm working with these gorgeous women.
Speaker 1: That article had come out saying, oh, she's ugly and
Speaker 1: she's had all this plastic surgery. And I'm sitting here
Speaker 1: on this huge TV show and I would just cry
Speaker 1: and cry all my makeup off and he'd have to
Speaker 1: put it back on, and I remember him saying, You're
Speaker 1: you're going to fall in love with yourself more as
Speaker 1: you get older. You're such a beautiful girl, and you're
Speaker 1: only going to age even better, and you're gonna look
Speaker 1: at yourself. He would say, like thirty years around and
Speaker 1: be like, oh my gosh, and feel comfortable with yourself.
Speaker 1: And here I am, you know, thirty plus years later,
Speaker 1: and I'm still not comfortable with myself. But I am
Speaker 1: able to watch Donna back and know the heartache I
Speaker 1: went through feeling like I had to keep up with
Speaker 1: the other girls, feeling like I had to look as
Speaker 1: pretty as them or maybe I wouldn't be light. And
Speaker 1: it was really hard for a young girl, where you know,
Speaker 1: I'm watching my daughter the same age, and they're worried
Speaker 1: about how they look, but they're worried about how their
Speaker 1: friends at school look. I had to worry about the
Speaker 1: way millions perceived me and didn't perceive me, and it
Speaker 1: was a hard thing. But I watched Donna now and
Speaker 1: I'm like, you were so pretty. Like I'm able to
Speaker 1: separate it and watch the show as a fan. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm like, Donna Martin, you're a really pretty girl. Akay,
Speaker 1: that's Tory spelling, you were a really pretty girl, and
Speaker 1: I wish I don't believe in regrets. Everything's your journey,
Speaker 1: but I do wish that I could go back and
Speaker 1: tell that girl like, you're pretty, like, don't listen to
Speaker 1: what people say, like, and I wish I could make
Speaker 1: her love herself then, because it'd be a whole different
Speaker 1: ballgame now for me. Yeah, because it's funny. I'll watch
Speaker 1: Donna then me as a teenager, me in my early
Speaker 1: twenties and be like, oh, you were so pretty, like
Speaker 1: you didn't need all that makeup, And I wish I
Speaker 1: had loved myself. But I look at Tory now in
Speaker 1: the mirror and I'm like, no, I don't see it.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. It's a lot of ketchup work
Speaker 1: you have to do. I don't know if you ever
Speaker 1: get there. It'd be nice to get there. Oh that'd
Speaker 1: be so nice. It'd be so nice to look in
Speaker 1: the mirror and be like cool, feeling good up, rock on.
Speaker 1: And I have a lot of respect for people that
Speaker 1: can do that, and I aim to get there one day. Anyway,
Speaker 1: I'm doing this podcast. You'll hear most of it, see
Speaker 1: the social clips. But I have to watch myself the
Speaker 1: entire time. So I'm literally looking into my computer on
Speaker 1: my zoom speaking to myself and I'm sitting here with
Speaker 1: no makeup, and I'm like, I'm getting through it. I'm
Speaker 1: not like, I, do you have a ringlin Maybe that's
Speaker 1: helped me. Maybe I could just take like a personal
Speaker 1: ring light through life that like eased me into it.
Speaker 1: I wish Brian had been honest today because I'm forgetting
Speaker 1: all the good stuff he said to me, because it
Speaker 1: made me so nervous having that conversation. And then the
Speaker 1: next night we're at dinner and he was like, so,
Speaker 1: he's like, you need to tell this story, your tory
Speaker 1: story about this because that's so important for you know,
Speaker 1: everyone to hear, like the struggles that people go through
Speaker 1: with the identity of what they see in the mirror
Speaker 1: versus what other people see, and how that's a reflection
Speaker 1: of like how you feel inside. And I was like, wow,
Speaker 1: that just got real deep for me. He's like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's okay. Live in that like uncomfortable zone. You
Speaker 1: don't always have to be funny. And I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: and that's another thing, like I have made up for
Speaker 1: what I perceive not being the prettiest girl, but I'm
Speaker 1: the funniest girl, like so I throw out humor with
Speaker 1: everything and at that point, you know, at some point
Speaker 1: that kind of gets old too, Like it's hard to
Speaker 1: sit with yourself, like be vulnerable, and it's an intimate
Speaker 1: place and it's wildly uncomfortable. But as a mom of
Speaker 1: five kids and two girls, like, I want to get there.
Speaker 1: I want to get there so I can support them
Speaker 1: as they're like going through these years and putting on
Speaker 1: makeup or not putting on makeup or yeah, well for
Speaker 1: whatever it's worth you, Yeah, look beautiful today.
Speaker 2: And I know you always say well with Anne, either
Speaker 2: you're blind or which.
Speaker 3: She is, She's always think that, but it's true.
Speaker 1: And I think I see you as most people see you.
Speaker 2: So again, it's just about you seeing it in yourself
Speaker 2: and personally, I don't think you have to commit to
Speaker 2: one thing or the other. You know, there are days
Speaker 2: you feel like doing yourself up. You do it.
Speaker 1: There are days you're.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't have time.
Speaker 1: And you don't, but hope it's true to the world.
Speaker 2: Not feeling horrible about yourself on those days that you don't.
Speaker 1: I just wish the world was kinder. Well, we all
Speaker 1: wish the world was kinder, but people don't realize the
Speaker 1: impact that words have. Like when words are said, you
Speaker 1: can't unhear them. If they're in print, you can't unsee them.
Speaker 1: And that's why people say, you know, lead by your actions,
Speaker 1: not your words. But it's just like it's a tough one.
Speaker 1: So you know, like I when I leave the house,
Speaker 1: like I want to go to the grocery store, Like
Speaker 1: a month ago or two months ago, I went to
Speaker 1: the Trader Joe's picking up like food for my kids
Speaker 1: to make dinner. And I didn't see them, but some
Speaker 1: paparazzi got a picture of me and it was like, ooh,
Speaker 1: look at her without makeup, And I was like, fuck, Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just trying to live like it's not it's just
Speaker 1: a weird, weird fucking world we live in all around.
Speaker 1: But it's like and maybe this wouldn't come up for
Speaker 1: me as much, but it's it. Definitely. I'm really working
Speaker 1: on myself and my growth being now my fifties and
Speaker 1: single again, single not married. I was married for you know,
Speaker 1: eighteen years, and you know, it was so lost in
Speaker 1: my relationship and the identity of being everyone you know,
Speaker 1: a mom, a wife, an actress, reality start just making
Speaker 1: it all happen that you know. And I've talked about
Speaker 1: this a lot, like I don't have me time, I've
Speaker 1: lost all that, but like I lost a big chunk
Speaker 1: of myself and I'm really trying now to find who
Speaker 1: that person is. And it's just in the midst of
Speaker 1: trying to find yourself in your fifties, which is not
Speaker 1: the age I think we're supposed to be trying to
Speaker 1: find ourselves. I mean, there's no age, I guess, but
Speaker 1: it's like I definitely like it's it's a tough one.
Speaker 1: But I heard Brian's words. I heard them. I couldn't
Speaker 1: unhear them, and they impacted me because it wasn't coming
Speaker 1: from someone that was just you know, oh, you're an actress,
Speaker 1: you're pretty, like you don't need makeup. So someone that
Speaker 1: has been my friend and family since I was sixteen
Speaker 1: years old, and what he says matters. And I'm kind
Speaker 1: of shocked because like my husband would tell me this
Speaker 1: over the years and I would be like, I don't
Speaker 1: believe you. You're just saying that you're in love with me,
Speaker 1: So like you don't. You can't. You can't see what's
Speaker 1: really there. But I heard what Brian said, like it
Speaker 1: really impacted me on such a deep level. So yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm definitely going to keep wearing makeup because I love
Speaker 1: doing my eyes like, I love doing that, and I'm
Speaker 1: not taking out my extensions. Rod Pick could tell me
Speaker 1: I look good without extensions, and I'm not doing that.
Speaker 1: I mean maybe for brod pet, I don't know, baby steps.
Speaker 1: So yeah, it will be interesting when you guys all
Speaker 1: hear this podcast, because I'll go on social media and
Speaker 1: can't wait to hear the fun stuff you guys are
Speaker 1: going to say. I mean, actually, if you're all listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast, you like me and you find me
Speaker 1: relatable and I'm part of your world, so thank you.
Speaker 1: But it's the others you have to worry about.
Speaker 2: Just remember one thing, m look where the globe is
Speaker 2: now after speaking unfavorably about you, so lesson there.
Speaker 1: I don't think that had anything to do with me. No,
Speaker 1: but they just went under eventually.
Speaker 2: Well they start because they were, you know, shitting on
Speaker 2: young girls, which is just not okay no matter who you.
Speaker 1: Are or what you look like. So oh, it's so
Speaker 1: interesting you say that because they got no backlash over it.
Speaker 1: But you're right, they were talking about an underage girl
Speaker 1: in her looks but no one but that's kind of
Speaker 1: the media anyway, and no one says anything.
Speaker 2: I think there's pushback more and more, you.
Speaker 1: Think, I hope, So I don't know. And there's this
Speaker 1: there's so much readily available to transform yourself that it's
Speaker 1: just hard to be like on that. I don't know,
Speaker 1: on the bandwagon of no, no, no, no, this is
Speaker 1: me and I'm proud of me. Like that's a tough one.
Speaker 1: There's so many viable things that we can transform ourselves
Speaker 1: with now. I mean, you and I were talking on
Speaker 1: the way back from the airport. That's like on social
Speaker 1: media we were seeing like all you know, new plastic
Speaker 1: surgery and you know, people in their like seventies and
Speaker 1: eighties are looking like they're in their forties. And we
Speaker 1: both had a moment We're like, we're screwed, right, And
Speaker 1: I was like, how do I get some of that?
Speaker 1: But you're right, I know, And I, on the other hand,
Speaker 1: was like, and I can never get any of that
Speaker 1: because people already say I've had plastic surgery, so I
Speaker 1: just have to stay just like this out of fear
Speaker 1: that the what they're already saying it, I don't have
Speaker 1: time to get plastic surgery.
Speaker 2: But like, well, the crazy thing is, and this just
Speaker 2: goes back to the beginning of this is you don't
Speaker 2: need it.
Speaker 1: You look so much younger than you are.
Speaker 2: You are blessed with amazing genes, you know, and you've
Speaker 2: taken care of your skin, and you're a beautiful girl.
Speaker 2: Not that you see it, but the truth is, you
Speaker 2: have all of that going for you, and you do
Speaker 2: look beautiful without makeup, and you look beautiful with makeup.
Speaker 2: The challenge is believing believing it for yourself, and that
Speaker 2: is just not an easy thing to do.
Speaker 1: No, not like my Instagram, Like my Instagram thinks I
Speaker 1: want to see like those masks and like under eye patches.
Speaker 1: I don't know why, but they keep putting them on
Speaker 1: my for you page and it's very like I buy
Speaker 1: into it too. I'm like, oh my gosh, the glass
Speaker 1: skin look. I'm like, cool, that looks great. Like I
Speaker 1: don't know have not Like I don't do any lasers.
Speaker 1: I don't do any of that stuff. This was to
Speaker 1: tighten your skin. I don't do it. Like it sounds good,
Speaker 1: be nice to have glass skin, Like you don't have
Speaker 1: to have plastic surgery, just glass skin. But it's like
Speaker 1: it's so they make you believe it. It's it's like it's
Speaker 1: like they draw you in, like, oh, I must need that. Wait,
Speaker 1: so you're saying I don't have to get like lasers
Speaker 1: or plastic surgery. I could just have glass skin with
Speaker 1: just a mask I put on for twenty minutes, for
Speaker 1: twenty nine ninety five. Wow, and I can get a bogo.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, yes, I'm in Like it is just wild.
Speaker 2: Now. The truth is, we don't know how much of
Speaker 2: those images have been done, you know, any of them,
Speaker 2: all of them. You have no idea unless you see
Speaker 2: somebody in person what it really looks like.
Speaker 1: That's the problem. No one's in today's age, Like nobody
Speaker 1: really has to see anybody in person anymore, except if
Speaker 1: you're fifty two and single and suddenly you have to
Speaker 1: date again. Budge, It's like, wow, that's an interesting concept. Yeah,
Speaker 1: But like last week I bought the zombie mask, Like
Speaker 1: I shouldn't be buying something that is called the zombie mask,
Speaker 1: Like that's not good for my self esteem and I
Speaker 1: was like, what is this new trend, the zombie mask? Oh,
Speaker 1: Kardashians wore it, Click Apple Pay, I'm in and I
Speaker 1: bought it. I'll tell you what it's like when it
Speaker 1: gets here. I have no idea. And you know, I
Speaker 1: tried that snail secretion mask. That was pretty good, though.
Speaker 1: That scared me. It like hydrated my skin though, like
Speaker 1: it did it did? It felt hydrated. Oh boy, you guys.
Speaker 1: It just scares me because I'm like, what is it
Speaker 1: going to be like for my kids, my six year
Speaker 1: old and my thirteen year old when they're in their
Speaker 1: forties and fifties, Like I can't even imagine, Like look
Speaker 1: at Ai now, Like what we can do. We will
Speaker 1: never have to worry about any of this. Maybe it'll
Speaker 1: be a button in your face, will just be a
Speaker 1: computerized version of yourself at sixteen when you're in your forties. Great,
Speaker 1: oh boy, now I'm going down this rabbit. Sign me up, Steve,