WEBVTT - Mick Shots: Draft Intensive 0:00:07.240 --> 0:00:09.840 The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:19.680 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. This is mick Shot 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:23.840 screening live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com and the official 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:28.560 Dallas Cowboys at now Here are Bill Jones, Everson Wolves, 0:00:28.840 --> 0:00:37.160 and Nicky Spagnola and we are what just over two 0:00:37.280 --> 0:00:40.600 days away from the start of the National Football League 0:00:40.720 --> 0:00:44.680 Draft on Thursday evening. As we have a little later 0:00:44.880 --> 0:00:48.839 edition of mix Shots on this Tuesday, because it's a 0:00:49.000 --> 0:00:53.440 post press conference version of mix Shots says we found 0:00:53.479 --> 0:00:55.480 out a lot over the course of the last hour 0:00:55.760 --> 0:00:59.200 or so. I'm Bill Jones with Everson Walls and Mickey 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:04.759 spagh and it is a great week because we are 0:01:04.800 --> 0:01:07.560 two days away from finding out who the next Dallas 0:01:07.600 --> 0:01:11.320 Cowboys are going to be, and the Cowboys the last 0:01:11.319 --> 0:01:14.120 twenty four hours are been saying goodbye to one of 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:17.400 the best that have put on the Cowboys star in 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:19.640 Sean Lee. So so much to get to over the 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.840 course of the next hour. Let's start with you, every son. 0:01:22.920 --> 0:01:25.600 How are you doing as you are primed and ready 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:30.200 to go right now. I have on my McCarthy jacket 0:01:30.200 --> 0:01:34.039 here ready to do some coaching. I have a little 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:41.679 reporting to do you know via your instructions, mister Jones. Ready, 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:44.480 I'm ready to go with what I believe will be 0:01:44.560 --> 0:01:49.400 the next Dallas Cowboy in two days. All right. I 0:01:49.560 --> 0:01:52.080 can't wait to hear it, because if you recall a 0:01:52.120 --> 0:01:55.040 week ago, I gave a homework assignment to ever Son 0:01:55.080 --> 0:01:58.120 about you know, he's got that coaching gear on now 0:01:58.160 --> 0:02:00.880 because there's gonna be a quarterback the Cowboys are going 0:02:00.960 --> 0:02:03.800 to take in the first round. Maybe we shall see. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:07.760 Don't think it'll be a tight end. We shall see, Mickey. 0:02:07.840 --> 0:02:11.919 Inside the SWBC Mortgage studios there at the Star in Frisco, 0:02:12.000 --> 0:02:17.000 you were on site as Jerry Jones, Steven Jones, Mike McCarthy, 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:19.960 and Shawn Lee address the media. Yeah. I think when 0:02:20.000 --> 0:02:24.320 it finally concluded, I wrote down one oh six, not 0:02:24.480 --> 0:02:27.560 a minute in six seconds. It was an hour in 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:32.360 six minutes that we were in there. But I thought 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.600 it was pretty informative. Now, there was a lot of 0:02:36.639 --> 0:02:38.800 I don't know that there was any a lot of 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:41.920 talk to try to mislead anybody, but I think we 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.160 got some pretty good insight into what the Cowboys are 0:02:45.160 --> 0:02:50.880 thinking about, how the preparation has gone, and just what 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:55.720 not only everybody thought of Sean Lee, but what Shawn 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:59.320 Lee thought of playing for the Dallas Cowboys. And I 0:02:59.360 --> 0:03:03.360 thought it was so Sean Lee. Uh, he was pretty funny, 0:03:03.560 --> 0:03:06.079 you guys. Before the press conference, when I was walking 0:03:06.120 --> 0:03:10.360 down the hallway where our offices are, he was coming through, uh, 0:03:10.600 --> 0:03:14.760 and he had had his coat on and uh hair 0:03:14.919 --> 0:03:19.680 was somewhat combed with loafers and no socks, and uh 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.200 he was walking through and I said, well, you're ready, 0:03:22.440 --> 0:03:25.600 You're ready to go sit on the beach, and he goes, Look, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:30.320 you don't realize that before I got here, my hair 0:03:30.560 --> 0:03:33.280 was down to my shoulders. I could be a beach 0:03:33.400 --> 0:03:38.400 buff very easily. So, Uh, he was in a pretty 0:03:38.440 --> 0:03:42.240 good mood. And he was thanking everybody and only Sean Lee, 0:03:42.400 --> 0:03:46.520 right because before the press conference start, he went out 0:03:46.600 --> 0:03:49.440 on the on the field where the guys were working out. 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:52.480 And the guys he was thanking were the weight and 0:03:52.640 --> 0:03:57.800 conditioning coaches, Uh, the the ball boys, Uh, you know, 0:03:57.920 --> 0:04:01.040 anybody that was out there working with the players, helping 0:04:01.040 --> 0:04:04.680 them out. He was thanking them for what they did 0:04:04.720 --> 0:04:07.600 for him. And I'll also with all the guys in 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.960 the public relations department that they put up with him 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:15.520 and his wise cracks for eleven years and just helping 0:04:15.640 --> 0:04:19.400 him become Shawn Lee. So yeah, the whole thing has 0:04:19.440 --> 0:04:24.880 been so Sean Lee, including the letter that he basically 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:28.960 had the PR Department post yesterday by thanking everybody and 0:04:29.040 --> 0:04:32.440 what it meant to play for the Cowboys. So boy, 0:04:32.480 --> 0:04:35.560 if you can find another Sean Lee in the draft, 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.680 a guy of his character and what he's meant to 0:04:38.800 --> 0:04:41.719 this organization, you would hit a home run at the 0:04:41.760 --> 0:04:48.440 tenth pick this year, no doubt. I think you'd be 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.760 hard pressed to find a more respected member of not 0:04:51.880 --> 0:04:55.280 only the team but the organization than Seawan Lee. And 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.320 a lot of it has to do with his work 0:04:57.320 --> 0:05:01.719 ethic that he put in the law before he walked 0:05:01.720 --> 0:05:03.919 through the doors at Valley Ranch and then at the 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:06.200 Star in Frisco, and then he just took it to 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:08.359 another level, I think, and it showed in his play. 0:05:09.160 --> 0:05:13.320 You know, last night I posted I retroitted a video 0:05:13.360 --> 0:05:17.240 that NFL put out of Seawan Lee on the day 0:05:17.240 --> 0:05:20.640 he retired. It's a three minute video highlight reel of 0:05:20.760 --> 0:05:24.640 Seawan Lee plays in his career and especially on those 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:29.440 plays where you can tell he's reading and reacted. He 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:32.120 knows that. There were so many times, Mickey, I think 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:35.120 especially we talked about it over the course of the 0:05:35.200 --> 0:05:38.599 last ten years, especially when he played the Eagles and 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:42.359 the Giants, and maybe the Washington football team too, but 0:05:42.360 --> 0:05:45.440 I really noticed it against those two teams, he had 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:49.839 plays sniffed out, as basically before the ball was snapped, 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:51.520 he knew what was coming. And I think a lot 0:05:51.560 --> 0:05:53.480 of it had to do with he was so familiar 0:05:53.839 --> 0:05:56.480 with those opponents because he played him twice a year 0:05:56.520 --> 0:05:59.280 and probably studied him a lot in the offseason as well, 0:05:59.520 --> 0:06:02.240 And it really you know, I went back in my 0:06:02.320 --> 0:06:06.400 Big Green Notebook from twenty ten where I first discovered 0:06:06.440 --> 0:06:08.839 Shawn Lee and became a president of the Shawn Lee 0:06:08.839 --> 0:06:13.400 Fan Club. You know, he actually he actually ran at 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:16.920 his pro day. He ran a four five eight forty, 0:06:16.920 --> 0:06:20.839 but his ten yards split was one fifty four, which 0:06:20.920 --> 0:06:23.960 is really getting it, and it shows on the field, 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:27.480 But it was in like a one forty eight on 0:06:27.520 --> 0:06:30.279 the field because of how quickly he was able to 0:06:30.360 --> 0:06:35.280 diagnose plays. You know, Bill talking about his preparation, and 0:06:35.880 --> 0:06:39.240 I've got to go back and look what year it was, 0:06:39.360 --> 0:06:42.200 But it was a game against the Eagles, and it 0:06:42.279 --> 0:06:46.400 might have been twenty sixteen when he finally played all 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.719 sixteen games. I don't remember, but it was early in 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:54.039 the season. The Cowboys defense played well against the Eagles, 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:56.400 so I need to look the game up. But after 0:06:56.440 --> 0:07:01.320 the game, the Eagle offensive guys were complaining that the 0:07:01.360 --> 0:07:06.599 Cowboys were stealing their signals, and my response to it 0:07:06.680 --> 0:07:11.040 at the time was, no, Sean Lee was studying all 0:07:11.200 --> 0:07:15.160 night long. He didn't steal anything. He knew exactly what 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:17.560 you were going to do before you did it, just 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:21.560 by watching your formations and knowing the plays that were 0:07:21.560 --> 0:07:26.240 getting ready to come. That's how good his preparation was 0:07:26.520 --> 0:07:30.720 and why he was so good. Yeah, he had physical skills, 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:33.600 but they weren't the greatest physical skills in the world. 0:07:33.880 --> 0:07:37.640 But his preparation for the game may have been the 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.840 greatest the Cowboys have had, other than maybe quarterbacks getting 0:07:41.880 --> 0:07:45.280 ready to play knowing that they got to know everything 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:49.000 about the offense. But yeah, his preparation had the Eagles 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.920 talking themselves, they're stealing our plays. They knew what we 0:07:51.920 --> 0:07:55.160 were gonna do. No, Shawn Lee studied all night long. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.120 I remember that game. In fact, it was back when 0:08:00.200 --> 0:08:04.640 Leshaun McCoy was playing for the Eagles, and Leshaun McCoy 0:08:04.760 --> 0:08:07.720 did nothing in that game because Shawn Lee had every 0:08:08.000 --> 0:08:12.160 Lashawn McCoy play, whether it was him running the ball 0:08:12.200 --> 0:08:16.200 out of the backfield or a pass out into the flat, whatever, 0:08:16.280 --> 0:08:20.520 he had it sniffed out. I remember that specifically. By 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:24.240 the way, Jerry, also in the press conference, referenced a 0:08:24.400 --> 0:08:29.320 video that he and I assumed the Cowboys scouting department 0:08:29.400 --> 0:08:34.000 back in twenty ten when Shawn Lee was drafted. He 0:08:34.440 --> 0:08:38.120 Jerry described it as an ESPN video that included interviews 0:08:38.120 --> 0:08:42.000 with his family and his brother talking about Sean. I 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:45.160 remember that video, and it actually was not an ESPN video. 0:08:45.240 --> 0:08:48.199 I found it on YouTube and I tweeted it out. 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:51.200 Go to CBS eleven Bill Jones and you can watch it. 0:08:51.200 --> 0:08:53.960 It was a seven and a half minute video that 0:08:54.080 --> 0:08:57.640 was produced by the Penn State Athletic Department, and it 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:01.640 showed Shawn Lee. It had his teammates at ben State 0:09:01.720 --> 0:09:04.120 talking about him and what a leader he was, and 0:09:04.480 --> 0:09:07.960 all these adjectives that they used to describe him. Had 0:09:08.000 --> 0:09:11.760 his family as well. It's worth watching, and I think 0:09:11.800 --> 0:09:15.000 it's worth watching out. I sent it along to Scott 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.040 of Goulnick and so he could pass it on to 0:09:17.200 --> 0:09:20.120 Jerry to look at again. I think it is it 0:09:20.240 --> 0:09:24.280 is something that a scouting department needs to watch again 0:09:24.679 --> 0:09:28.480 to understand what it is we are looking for in 0:09:28.720 --> 0:09:32.880 players in this draft, because it just it just flies 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.600 off the screen at you. This is exactly what you're 0:09:35.600 --> 0:09:38.040 looking for. And as Mike McCarthy and others said in 0:09:38.040 --> 0:09:41.120 the press conference, yeah, you think it during the draft, 0:09:41.160 --> 0:09:44.520 you think you're getting that player, and not very often 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.680 does that player turn out to be exactly what you 0:09:47.720 --> 0:09:50.079 saw on video where where there's a game tape or 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.800 any interviews and stuff. Well, with Sean Lee, they got that, 0:09:52.880 --> 0:09:59.600 and then some yeah, absolutely, and uh it was you know, 0:10:00.080 --> 0:10:03.480 was only Sean Lee to show up like this and uh, 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:06.320 you know, to do stay there and handle almost every 0:10:06.400 --> 0:10:09.560 question that came his way. And obviously everybody wanted to 0:10:09.600 --> 0:10:12.640 know if coaching was going to be in his future. 0:10:12.800 --> 0:10:17.160 And I thought he made a wise decision. In Everson, 0:10:17.200 --> 0:10:19.440 I want you to talk about when you decided that 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:21.880 was it or somebody decided that was it for you, 0:10:22.040 --> 0:10:28.000 however it went that he wanted to take some time 0:10:28.120 --> 0:10:31.240 and let it breathe and you know kind of you know, 0:10:31.320 --> 0:10:34.079 smell the Roses and sit on the beach. Remember he's 0:10:34.080 --> 0:10:37.680 got a place in Santa Barbara and that's a pretty 0:10:37.720 --> 0:10:41.120 sweet spot there in California. And then he said he 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:45.360 wouldn't consider and as the Cowboys said, Mike said, Jerry said, 0:10:45.679 --> 0:10:48.360 you know, there's a spot in this organization for him 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:51.559 if he indeed decides that that's what he wants to do. 0:10:51.720 --> 0:10:55.800 So yeah, I think that. You know, it's a tough 0:10:55.840 --> 0:10:59.400 decision to make, Everson, but maybe once you make it, 0:10:59.440 --> 0:11:03.920 you're some relieved if you feel good about yourself and 0:11:04.080 --> 0:11:09.280 the decision. Yeah, And that's the thing spacts if you 0:11:09.320 --> 0:11:13.280 feel good about yourself. You know, Sean Lee was blessed 0:11:13.720 --> 0:11:17.320 to have the career that he had. But it's not 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:19.960 just the career that he had, is that someone took 0:11:19.960 --> 0:11:23.520 a notice of him early on and realized what he 0:11:23.600 --> 0:11:26.560 brought to the table. You know, it'd be nice if 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.360 everybody could, just like you said, make that own decision 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:32.960 for yourself. Sean didn't want to make that decision either. 0:11:33.400 --> 0:11:36.880 His body made that decision for him. That was the 0:11:36.880 --> 0:11:39.640 main thing about that. If he could have and I 0:11:39.640 --> 0:11:42.600 would accept that as well, if he could have played longer, 0:11:43.160 --> 0:11:45.480 I would I would have liked for him to play longer, 0:11:45.640 --> 0:11:48.160 of course, minus league the injuries, because you just don't 0:11:48.200 --> 0:11:50.240 want anyone to have to go through the kind of 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:52.760 things that he went through physically. The one thing I 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.000 liked about Sean Lee, and we've touched on it throughout 0:11:56.440 --> 0:12:01.319 this program, is his intellect and his desire to be smarter. 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:04.320 You can come in with any type of brain waves 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:06.960 you want to come in with, but if you want, 0:12:07.000 --> 0:12:09.800 if you try to get better with what you have, 0:12:10.480 --> 0:12:13.440 with what God gave you, and you do the best 0:12:13.520 --> 0:12:17.080 with that, to me, you can't ask for anything more 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.720 than that. Does A term that I heard the other 0:12:20.800 --> 0:12:25.320 day iron sharpness iron and I truly believe that it 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:28.240 happened with me when I went to Gramming State University. 0:12:29.000 --> 0:12:33.160 The players there, the coach Eddie Robinson, challenged me so much. 0:12:33.360 --> 0:12:35.760 It made me the person who I am today, not 0:12:35.840 --> 0:12:39.240 just on but off the field. And that's one thing 0:12:39.280 --> 0:12:44.280 that I wish more players would have recognized about Sean 0:12:44.440 --> 0:12:48.600 Lee's preparation, because this is something that we all knew 0:12:48.960 --> 0:12:52.400 under Tom Landry. We had to study. Okay, it's something 0:12:52.440 --> 0:12:55.800 I knew. When I went to the Giants, I had 0:12:55.840 --> 0:12:59.560 to study, of course, being with a Belichick, you had 0:12:59.640 --> 0:13:03.760 to ud that that shouldn't have been something that was 0:13:03.880 --> 0:13:09.839 different for anyone. I am disappointed in other linebackers that 0:13:10.360 --> 0:13:14.200 witnessed what Sean Lee's ability was to try and get better. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:18.760 I thought that he should have had the entire linebackers 0:13:19.600 --> 0:13:23.720 staff in there with him as they watched film, because 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:26.720 that would have made them as a as a team better. 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:31.320 That to me, would have been iron sharpening iron. We 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:34.559 did not see that. I didn't think Sean Lee should 0:13:34.600 --> 0:13:38.480 have been an exception in the Cowboys locker room. I 0:13:38.559 --> 0:13:41.040 thought he should have been the norm. And it's to 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.160 his credit that he was the exception. But to me, uh, 0:13:45.679 --> 0:13:49.640 I am disappointed in the in the Cowboys a linebacker 0:13:49.720 --> 0:13:54.160 rank to where you see Sean Lee is anticipating every play. 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:59.280 You're witnessing that week after week, pregame and postgame, you 0:13:59.320 --> 0:14:02.360 see this, and yet you decide for some reason or 0:14:02.280 --> 0:14:05.640 another not to get in and study with this young man. 0:14:06.160 --> 0:14:09.439 You know, he was really a tribute to the organization. 0:14:09.800 --> 0:14:12.080 A lot of people were, but this is his time. 0:14:12.440 --> 0:14:15.559 He's a tribute to the organization. And I'm still pretty 0:14:15.679 --> 0:14:19.760 upset that as our linebacker corps was was really weakening 0:14:20.640 --> 0:14:22.640 as he was out there getting hurt trying to make 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:25.280 all the plays. And from a line packer position, he 0:14:25.400 --> 0:14:28.160 should have been in that film room with other people 0:14:28.320 --> 0:14:30.720 and then they could have been talked about the way 0:14:30.720 --> 0:14:34.440 we're talking about Seawan Lee right now. Hey, how about 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:39.880 that Everson quoting scripture? Here are mixed shots, iron sharpens iron. 0:14:39.920 --> 0:14:46.000 That's Proverbs twenty seventy seventeen. I didn't work religious so 0:14:46.200 --> 0:14:48.760 wrong without the player out there, you know, Seanpens another 0:14:48.920 --> 0:14:53.840 friend ever sin. But you're right, You're exactly right. And 0:14:53.960 --> 0:14:57.040 in fact, it's funny that you mentioned that. And I'm 0:14:57.080 --> 0:14:59.280 not gonna mention this former player's name, but he was 0:14:59.320 --> 0:15:02.640 a linebacker, okay. And I remember this is when this 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:05.560 was going back in the well. We would have been 0:15:05.600 --> 0:15:08.360 probably seven, eight years ago or whatever. Twitter was just 0:15:08.480 --> 0:15:12.200 getting started, and I remember this player. It was during 0:15:12.240 --> 0:15:15.560 the middle of the season and he's tweeting about the 0:15:15.760 --> 0:15:17.880 video game that he's playing. I mean, it's like a 0:15:18.040 --> 0:15:21.800 game week and this linebacker is tweeting about the video 0:15:21.880 --> 0:15:24.560 game that he's playing and saying, oh, I just or 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.880 whatever or whatever game he was playing whatever, And I 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:30.600 was thinking, there is no way in the world that 0:15:30.840 --> 0:15:34.160 Sean Lee is playing the video games during the season. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:37.000 He's probably not playing video games in the offseason either. 0:15:37.400 --> 0:15:40.400 But I was like, what a difference. And really you 0:15:40.520 --> 0:15:44.080 could see the difference on Sunday where one player doesn't 0:15:44.080 --> 0:15:46.400 know what just happened and the other player is making 0:15:46.440 --> 0:15:48.840 the tackle in the back. Thank you Bill, Thank you Bill. 0:15:49.160 --> 0:15:51.400 And this is this is what I always bring up 0:15:51.440 --> 0:15:54.040 when I say, back when we with Tom Langer, you 0:15:54.200 --> 0:15:57.280 had to study. Now, this is a different system. You're 0:15:57.320 --> 0:16:00.480 talking the flex versus whatever the hell running with the 0:16:00.560 --> 0:16:03.240 Cowboys right now, and even back then I still can't 0:16:03.280 --> 0:16:07.160 recognize it. But the flex defense, you had to have 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:10.480 a middle linebacker that was in tuned to everything that 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:13.280 was going on. So I know from playing with guys 0:16:13.360 --> 0:16:17.240 like Bob Ruinett, student of the Game, Eugene Lockhart, and 0:16:17.240 --> 0:16:19.440 I always bring him up. They talked about the number 0:16:19.440 --> 0:16:21.600 of tackles that Sean Lee ended up with. I think 0:16:21.680 --> 0:16:23.400 one year end up with one hundred and seventy five 0:16:23.480 --> 0:16:26.120 tackles or whatever. As Fags and I've talked about this, 0:16:27.080 --> 0:16:29.360 there's one thing to make one hundred seventy stuffing tackles 0:16:29.400 --> 0:16:32.480 on the defense that's decent but when you're making two 0:16:32.600 --> 0:16:35.560 hundred plus tackles that Eugene Lockhart did on a team, 0:16:35.680 --> 0:16:39.680 that is garbage. Okay, And I was on that team, 0:16:39.760 --> 0:16:42.600 you understand. So when you have to make all of 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.920 those tackles, that's something that was the norm for the Cowboys. 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:51.400 Your linebackers had to be students of the game. I 0:16:51.480 --> 0:16:54.280 don't know what Lockharts GPA was in Houston. I do 0:16:54.480 --> 0:16:56.480 know that when he was with the Cowboys, I give 0:16:56.560 --> 0:16:59.160 him on the roll because he made over two hundred 0:16:59.200 --> 0:17:01.600 tackles if I'm not stake of two years while he 0:17:01.720 --> 0:17:05.800 was here with a defensive line that no one would 0:17:05.880 --> 0:17:09.480 line up behind. So this is something that fell off 0:17:10.080 --> 0:17:15.080 in regards to the the dedication that was put towards 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:18.000 being a good football player. That's the way it used 0:17:18.040 --> 0:17:21.040 to be with the Cowboys. Sean Lee, to me, was 0:17:21.119 --> 0:17:24.840 basically a throwback to what the Cowboys used to be 0:17:25.000 --> 0:17:31.480 in regards to preparation for a ballgame. Mean Gene the 0:17:31.600 --> 0:17:34.359 hitting machine or mean Gene the tackling machine. He did 0:17:34.440 --> 0:17:39.240 have over two hundred tackles in one season, right, Let's see, 0:17:39.280 --> 0:17:50.920 the yes was making tackle all right. The home work 0:17:51.000 --> 0:17:54.200 assignment for Everson was to take a look at these 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.639 top cornerbacks because I want to get a scouting report 0:17:57.720 --> 0:18:00.840 on him, and hopefully we'll have a p from Everson 0:18:00.920 --> 0:18:03.720 as we go along. He had fifty seven picks in 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:06.280 his career. He can make one more pick here on 0:18:06.440 --> 0:18:10.399 mix Shots, and so maybe we should take a break 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:12.320 and we can what do you think making? 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The deadline isn't until after 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:26.840 the draft, but picking up the fifth year option on 0:21:27.000 --> 0:21:31.040 those first round picks from four years ago, I guess 0:21:31.119 --> 0:21:34.080 three years ago twenty eighteen draft, which would be the 0:21:34.160 --> 0:21:37.240 Layton Vanderish draft. That deadline is coming up next week. 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.359 You got any more of a feel on what the 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:42.240 Cowboys planning to do with Layton's fifth year option, Yeah, 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:46.320 it sounds like I thought they would It would be 0:21:46.520 --> 0:21:49.239 kind of an automatic thing, but it sounded like they 0:21:49.320 --> 0:21:54.080 were going to be looking at everything, and it almost 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:57.760 brought up the idea in my head that maybe what 0:21:57.920 --> 0:22:02.879 they would rather do, because Stephen has mentioned this twice 0:22:03.000 --> 0:22:05.240 that they didn't pick up the fifth year option on 0:22:05.400 --> 0:22:09.040 Morris Claiborne, and then after his fourth season they resigned 0:22:09.119 --> 0:22:11.240 him to a one year deal. But that was a 0:22:11.320 --> 0:22:14.439 little different because he was coming off an injured season, 0:22:14.560 --> 0:22:17.320 I believe, and no one was really going to give 0:22:17.400 --> 0:22:20.360 him a big deal in free agency, so they resigned 0:22:20.400 --> 0:22:24.200 him to a one year deal. But when Stevens talking 0:22:24.240 --> 0:22:25.920 about it, he said, you know, you got to look 0:22:25.960 --> 0:22:29.080 at the full body of work. Sure, you take a 0:22:29.160 --> 0:22:31.359 look at the injuries, but you're also looking at your 0:22:31.440 --> 0:22:34.920 salary cap, because his fifth year option would be nine 0:22:35.040 --> 0:22:39.080 point one three million. I believe is what it comes to, 0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:44.600 and not this year, but for twenty twenty two. So 0:22:45.800 --> 0:22:48.160 he said, whether we do it or not doesn't mean 0:22:49.520 --> 0:22:52.639 that we don't want him back. So there might be 0:22:52.720 --> 0:22:56.679 a possibility they try to sign him to an extension 0:22:57.640 --> 0:22:59.920 and give him a little bit of a signing bone 0:23:00.080 --> 0:23:04.320 US and guarantee him the nine million over maybe two 0:23:04.480 --> 0:23:08.600 years or so. But I don't know that it's an 0:23:08.600 --> 0:23:11.200 automatic that they're picking it up at this point just 0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:14.240 because of a salary cap deal. So we'll see where 0:23:14.280 --> 0:23:16.280 that goes. But you know, when you look at the 0:23:16.359 --> 0:23:21.479 linebacker room, boy, they need him, and they need him healthy, 0:23:21.920 --> 0:23:25.040 and they need a couple more in the draft. And 0:23:25.280 --> 0:23:29.160 as I continued to say, I wouldn't mind that tenth 0:23:29.320 --> 0:23:33.720 pick being a linebacker because that is a very thin 0:23:34.000 --> 0:23:40.480 position on this team. And so Micah Parsons, Micah Parsons 0:23:40.640 --> 0:23:43.000 is high on your list for the Cowboys at number ten, 0:23:43.800 --> 0:23:46.280 he would be He would be the guy I would 0:23:46.320 --> 0:23:48.600 take if they came to me and said, who do 0:23:48.720 --> 0:23:52.159 you want, because that's what I would do. I had 0:23:52.200 --> 0:23:54.840 a funny discussion last Friday with the guys on the 0:23:55.960 --> 0:23:59.879 Giants giants dot Com, and we were talking about they 0:24:00.000 --> 0:24:02.480 were doing a mock draft, and when I got to ten, 0:24:03.440 --> 0:24:06.400 I had I basically had my choice of the best 0:24:06.520 --> 0:24:09.600 defensive player. So we went on and on. I even 0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.280 invoked the name of Lawrence Taylor, right, that this Parsons 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:16.400 guy could be the next coming of Lawrence Taylor. After all, 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:20.080 he's six, he's sixty three and a half two hundred 0:24:20.080 --> 0:24:23.440 and forty six pounds and runs a fourth Korean nine. Right, 0:24:24.440 --> 0:24:28.399