Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome to episode eight. I've been there,
Speaker 1: Dean that we just got back from a trip, but
Speaker 1: we're not going to talk about that trip just yet.
Speaker 2: I thought that's what we were talking about today.
Speaker 1: I was prepared, you are prepared about it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought you said we were going to talk
Speaker 2: about it this week.
Speaker 1: We are Aruba. We're doing back to back apps. We're
Speaker 1: doing an episode pre Aruba and the next episode will
Speaker 1: be Aruba.
Speaker 2: What's pri Ruba? What are we talking about today?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm so glad you asked, kailin, because today we
Speaker 1: are going to be talking about something we mentioned in
Speaker 1: last week's episode about Guatemala. Do you know you can
Speaker 1: guess use that big brain Ireland, use the big brain
Speaker 1: in your big in your regular size head.
Speaker 2: Ireland. No, we already talked about Saint Lucia.
Speaker 1: Yes, so we're just going to do it a little
Speaker 1: quickie on have a sup? I have a sup? I
Speaker 1: falls So Kaitlin and I this was back in November
Speaker 1: of twenty nineteen, started dating. We had been dating since June.
Speaker 1: So what would that be? Four months? Yeah, we were fresh,
Speaker 1: five months. We were fresh. I think that everyone at
Speaker 1: least now has to know of have a sup Eye.
Speaker 1: At the time, it was still very very popular, but
Speaker 1: it's only just grown in popularity since then, and it
Speaker 1: probably will continue to grow in popularity. But it's something
Speaker 1: that had been on my list for a very very,
Speaker 1: very very long time. Did you know about how a
Speaker 1: Supie before we went to it?
Speaker 2: No? And I was just thinking, I don't think that
Speaker 2: many people know about how a Supy, like I think
Speaker 2: a lot of people do in our sphere. I'm putting
Speaker 2: myself in that sphere because I've done a lot of
Speaker 2: hiking with you, But like the hiking photography, there's no
Speaker 2: other word but sphere, sphere. Those people kind of know
Speaker 2: about it, but I don't think a lot of other
Speaker 2: people outside of that know about it.
Speaker 1: That's surprising because a person like you of Indigenous descent,
Speaker 1: you'd think, you know, there's a drive down there. I
Speaker 1: know from the Midwestern tribes.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't think every Maybe I'm a bad Native American,
Speaker 2: but I don't think we know about every tribe and
Speaker 2: in location and what they have to offer.
Speaker 1: You're not and I'm not saying that you are bad
Speaker 1: Native American whatsoever. I was just trying to be facetious
Speaker 1: I suppose, but yeah, so have a Suphie is a
Speaker 1: very well known indigenous population in northern Arizona. It's it's
Speaker 1: well known for its waterfalls. Specifically, there's one waterfall that's
Speaker 1: about one hundred feet tall. To have a sup Bye Falls
Speaker 1: That is maybe the most breathtaking waterfall I've ever seen
Speaker 1: in person. I would venture to say the most beautiful
Speaker 1: waterfall in Northern America. I wouldn't go as far as say,
Speaker 1: in the entire world.
Speaker 2: Because I think there was in America that, but we
Speaker 2: have to take an into account Canada.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so like what Niagara, I.
Speaker 2: Was thinking, BAMFP has to have a cool waterfall.
Speaker 1: Okay, so let's just say this. It's the It's easily
Speaker 1: the most picturesque waterfall in the Western United States. Sure,
Speaker 1: maybe it's just so beautiful and everyone had talked about it.
Speaker 1: My brother had done this hike years prior and listening
Speaker 1: to this podcast, if you've listened to it for a while,
Speaker 1: you'll know that I'm obsessed with my brother and I
Speaker 1: want to be more like him in every single way
Speaker 1: that I possibly can be. He's always raved about it,
Speaker 1: and I have just always always wanted to do it.
Speaker 1: But it's hard for me to have done stuff like this, Like, yes,
Speaker 1: I would love to do it by myself, but I
Speaker 1: would rather do it with partners and my friends in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles. They ended up doing it later on, and
Speaker 1: I wish that I had reached out to them, like
Speaker 1: trying to like catalyze this idea, but it never happened.
Speaker 1: And then so when I got a girlfriend, I was like, oh, great,
Speaker 1: I can just drag her along with me on this.
Speaker 2: And boy was I dragged.
Speaker 1: You were, Yeah, you were dragged. So what we did
Speaker 1: was we hopped online. We had like a weird window
Speaker 1: to make it work. We went in November, so I
Speaker 1: think that's like kind of the lower season for them,
Speaker 1: which ended up being pretty good for us because temperature wise,
Speaker 1: it was a little cooler. It was still pretty blisteringly
Speaker 1: hot during the day, but got kind of cold at night.
Speaker 1: I remember that anyway. So we've found some cancel tickets
Speaker 1: on their website, which if you are looking at booking
Speaker 1: a trip to have a soup, I'd go to their website,
Speaker 1: looks specifically under the cancelations tab because it books out.
Speaker 1: I think the tickets go on sale February first of
Speaker 1: every year. And it books out incredibly fast, and we
Speaker 1: found tickets just in the cancelation side of things. I
Speaker 1: was looking at prices.
Speaker 2: Now they're crazy.
Speaker 1: Well, it's the same price as what we paid back
Speaker 1: in twenty nineteen, which I was surprised by. It's one
Speaker 1: hundred dollars per person per night. Yeah, and it's a
Speaker 1: three night minimum.
Speaker 2: I thought it was more than that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, so for us, we spent six hundred dollars
Speaker 1: just to go camping for three nights, which is just
Speaker 1: mind blowingly expensive when you consider campsites are, you know,
Speaker 1: mostly free. Sometimes you're going to pay five, ten, fifteen bucks,
Speaker 1: but one hundred bucks a night for per person is
Speaker 1: just it's mind blowing. It's kind of worth it.
Speaker 2: I would say, would you say, oh, yeah, I think
Speaker 2: it's worth it for sure?
Speaker 1: I would say it's worth it at least once.
Speaker 2: I would definitely like to go back again.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I would one hundred percent go back again. But
Speaker 1: even and that, you're kind of like, well, that's kind
Speaker 1: of expensive, but it for one for your first time,
Speaker 1: one hundred percent worth it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's amazing. It is quite a trek in
Speaker 2: and out.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So well, so let's get there first, So we
Speaker 1: drove from Los Angeles. We had the van, thankfully, because
Speaker 1: it's a seven hour drive from LA and do you
Speaker 1: want to start early in the morning, and so you
Speaker 1: don't want to leave at like one am, get there
Speaker 1: at seven am, or get there eight am and then
Speaker 1: start hiking. That's kind of a pain in the butt.
Speaker 1: So what we did was we drove from LA. I
Speaker 1: think we stopped somewhere along the way like a rest stop,
Speaker 1: and spent the night, and then we just kind of
Speaker 1: like lazied our way into it in the morning. We
Speaker 1: didn't start intol like nownish. We actually didn't start until
Speaker 1: like one twenty pm, I know exactly the time.
Speaker 2: Wow.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And well cause I read about on my blog,
Speaker 1: and so I went back and read my blog and
Speaker 1: I was like kind of surprised and impressed by myself
Speaker 1: how much detail I levied out onto the blog.
Speaker 2: Make sure you check out genybabies dot com if you
Speaker 2: want to read more.
Speaker 1: Haven't updated in a few years. But I got to say,
Speaker 1: I was pretty proud of myself for that content that
Speaker 1: I had written there. I should get back into that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, so we drove, we stayed the night, we
Speaker 1: started hiking in the morning. I remember getting there. There's
Speaker 1: a checkpoint a couple miles before the trailhead, and I
Speaker 1: with my I was in my van, of course, and
Speaker 1: it's kind of like driving in your small apartment where
Speaker 1: things kind of just get locked lost amongst the clutter.
Speaker 1: You don't know exactly what's in there at all times,
Speaker 1: versus a car where you're like, oh, I cleaned it
Speaker 1: out last week, so I know exactly what's in here.
Speaker 1: There's nothing bad. I had like a couple extra beers.
Speaker 1: I had a drone. You're not allowed to bring alcohol
Speaker 1: and you're not allowed to bring drones. Those are like
Speaker 1: the three things they explicitly say don't bring these in.
Speaker 1: They do, like I pretty throw a search of your car,
Speaker 1: and especially being a van, they kind of like tore
Speaker 1: everything apart. They found the beer, they found the drone.
Speaker 1: They just maybe empty the beer out there at the
Speaker 1: At the ranger station, they asked about the drone. I
Speaker 1: just told them that I flew it and crashed it,
Speaker 1: which is true, and so it didn't fly, and so
Speaker 1: they like let me get off, thankfully. I think typically
Speaker 1: they might take that from.
Speaker 2: You, but with other people we read up a little
Speaker 2: bit on it, and if you have any of these things,
Speaker 2: they can turn you away. They're like basically can take
Speaker 2: your permits, take your money, and they're like, sorry, you're
Speaker 2: not welcome here. Yeah, alcohol and drones and somehow we
Speaker 2: got to lucky.
Speaker 1: And imagine just driving seven hours and spending six hundred
Speaker 1: dollars and getting all the way there and then and
Speaker 1: not being allowed to enter. So if you do end
Speaker 1: up going, make sure triple check and quadruple check that
Speaker 1: you don't have these things in your car. Because they
Speaker 1: were nice to us. I don't know how understanding that
Speaker 1: would be for you know, future issues like that.
Speaker 2: But yeah, and they are thorough like they will go
Speaker 2: through They went through our entire van, which is it
Speaker 2: took a while, and they will go through your entire car.
Speaker 2: So don't try to hide anything, don't try to bring
Speaker 2: anything in that you shouldn't because you'll get caught. Yeah,
Speaker 2: they've got dogs sniff in you.
Speaker 1: They got they do have a cute little puppy sniff
Speaker 1: in you. So so we get there eventually and start hiking.
Speaker 1: I do have a breakdown of kind of what I
Speaker 1: brought on the trip, but typically, like, of course you're
Speaker 1: gonna need a tent, sleeping path, sleeping bag, cold weather clothes,
Speaker 1: some suit obviously, and very comfortable hiking shoes. We got
Speaker 1: to the trailhead around one started hiking around one twenty,
Speaker 1: and from there it's a ten mile hike to get
Speaker 1: from the trailhead into the campsite. It's it's a unique hike.
Speaker 1: The way in is much easier than the way out
Speaker 1: because it's all downhill. I think it's like two thousand
Speaker 1: feet of elevation change, so you go down two thousand
Speaker 1: feet on the way in and then obviously up two
Speaker 1: thousand feet on the way back. Ten miles. I think
Speaker 1: we did the whole thing in maybe like three and
Speaker 1: a half or four hours, which is pretty good. Calen
Speaker 1: hadn't really done much hiking at this point. I remember
Speaker 1: your hip flexer was flaring up on you quite a bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to say so this was my first
Speaker 2: big hike ever in my life. This was the most
Speaker 2: I've ever hiked. I think like max before that was
Speaker 2: one mile, so this was ten or eleven ten ten.
Speaker 2: And so we went to ARII and stocked up. I
Speaker 2: had to get a bunch of new gear and stuff,
Speaker 2: and I was like, it's probably time to get legit
Speaker 2: hiking boots versus the crappy little ones that I have,
Speaker 2: And I went for style, which you should never do.
Speaker 2: Quickly learned and they were They didn't feel that heavy
Speaker 2: in your hand. But you want like the most lightweight
Speaker 2: possible hiking boots. Mine they were so they became so
Speaker 2: heavy so quickly, like two miles in lifting my leg
Speaker 2: each time pulled my hip flexer. And I was very
Speaker 2: week at the time, but my hip flexer was pulled
Speaker 2: so bad that I couldn't like it was just like
Speaker 2: impossible to keep walking. So we had to keep taking breaks.
Speaker 2: So if you were looking for hiking boots, make sure
Speaker 2: they are super light.
Speaker 1: Yeah, light is good. There is a trade off between
Speaker 1: light and like formidable. You don't want a hiking shoe
Speaker 1: that's like a super light shoe because then you'll feel
Speaker 1: every rock underneath your foot.
Speaker 2: Well, mine are super light, but like heavy duty. The
Speaker 2: new ones that I have.
Speaker 1: I mean, I firmly believe that a good hiking shoe
Speaker 1: is maybe the most important thing you need when you
Speaker 1: go hiking. If you have a bad pair of hiking
Speaker 1: shoes that you don't find comfortable personally, it's going to
Speaker 1: totally ruin your experience.
Speaker 2: Oh and it did on the hike in and then
Speaker 2: I had to wear I'm a seven and a half
Speaker 2: dian as a men's even eleven, and so I had
Speaker 2: to wear his water shoes the rest of the way
Speaker 2: because I was in so much pain. But it's hard
Speaker 2: to know, Like that was the first long hike I've
Speaker 2: ever done, it was hard to know exactly what to
Speaker 2: look for. ARII has a great return policy, so you
Speaker 2: can go on this hike and then you can return them,
Speaker 2: which is awesome. So luckily I got super lucky with that.
Speaker 1: But and it is a big trial and air thing too.
Speaker 1: My big, first big hike I went on in Patagonia.
Speaker 1: I bought a pair of hiking shoes kind of unknowingly,
Speaker 1: just bought the things that I thought would be best
Speaker 1: hated them. So for fifty miles on that track, I
Speaker 1: just absolutely hated my shoes until I eventually found the
Speaker 1: shoes that I were Now are the Lesportiva's approach shoes,
Speaker 1: like the t X four's, and I love them personally.
Speaker 1: I think it really just you just got to find
Speaker 1: a shoe that you really like and know that you're
Speaker 1: gonna be comfortable in.
Speaker 2: But that's exactly what it is. It's trial and error,
Speaker 2: and it sucks if you make an error on a
Speaker 2: hike like that.
Speaker 1: Right, So we get there, we start hiking in. I
Speaker 1: remember at one point I tried to take a video
Speaker 1: or a picture of some of the horses and I
Speaker 1: got shushed away. They're like, delete all that stuff right now.
Speaker 1: You're not allowed to have any pictures of the horses
Speaker 1: or any of the people here, which I found surprising.
Speaker 2: I will say too, if you are going to do
Speaker 2: this hike, please don't use the pack mules. Yeah, it's
Speaker 2: just a little sad it is, so you can hike
Speaker 2: in with your back. And that's what Deem is taking
Speaker 2: a photo of. I think if they were.
Speaker 1: Donkeys, I was just making a video or video.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and like it just happened to be an animal.
Speaker 2: But they were carrying people's gear in because some people
Speaker 2: don't want to carry their own gear, and please don't
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree, Yeah, I agree. Yes. And
Speaker 1: so we get there. We get to the town of Supi,
Speaker 1: which is like the small town of the Indigenous people
Speaker 1: that live down there. And I actually did a little
Speaker 1: bit bit of research before this did you know what
Speaker 1: the village of Supi is the most remote indigenous territory
Speaker 1: in the United States.
Speaker 2: I didn't.
Speaker 1: It's located ten miles deep in the Grand Canyon Supy
Speaker 1: Village and have a sup by water fowls, only accessible
Speaker 1: by helicopter or on your own two feet. I just
Speaker 1: found that really interesting that the most remote indigenous territory
Speaker 1: in the US. So we get to the town, I
Speaker 1: think we there's like a lot of misinformation out there
Speaker 1: on what you can buy down there. We brought all
Speaker 1: our own food and when we get down there, there's
Speaker 1: like a restaurant. There's like little stands that kind of
Speaker 1: review fried goods.
Speaker 2: Are you talking about the fry food fry bread?
Speaker 1: I mean the fry bread.
Speaker 2: The fry bread were there were like two stands once
Speaker 2: you're within the hike. But then there's that little town.
Speaker 2: But that's still two or three miles before you get
Speaker 2: tip yeah camp.
Speaker 1: So two miles before the campsite starts. There's there is
Speaker 1: a restaurant though that we ate out on the way back,
Speaker 1: and we got the jalapeno burgers and they were very
Speaker 1: good at like I did because you don't eat beef,
Speaker 1: but anyway, So we get there, we check in and
Speaker 1: do all that stuff, and then we go to our campsite.
Speaker 1: The camping area was pretty full, I remember, So we
Speaker 1: got a campsite that I wouldn't necessarily recommend. It was
Speaker 1: like the very first Campsit in the left hand side,
Speaker 1: right when you get in, So we had a lot
Speaker 1: of foot traffic going by us all day and all night.
Speaker 2: But they the campsites are appointed to you, like I
Speaker 2: don't think so.
Speaker 1: No, you go in and it's just kind of like dispersed.
Speaker 1: You just kind of find a campsite that you want.
Speaker 1: I would recommend going towards the back. Do you remember
Speaker 1: like those Yeah, the creep and all that stuff was
Speaker 1: running through and there's a lot of really cool, unique
Speaker 1: places to camp that we didn't really get the chance
Speaker 1: to just because I think we got there super late.
Speaker 1: We got there at like five thirty in November, and
Speaker 1: so it was like already pretty dark, and so we
Speaker 1: were like setting up in the middle of the night,
Speaker 1: which was kind of a bummer. But we ended up
Speaker 1: spending four days, three nights down there and no cell
Speaker 1: phone reception. So just keep that in mind. Bring a
Speaker 1: good book or download some stuff on your phone or something,
Speaker 1: if that's what you want to do while you're down there,
Speaker 1: just kind of killing time.
Speaker 2: We watched The Harry Bear, The Cubert Affair, The.
Speaker 1: Curious Affair of Harry Cubert or something like.
Speaker 2: That with McDreamy from Gray's Anatomy.
Speaker 1: Not a good show, but it kept us entertained.
Speaker 2: It's funny that every time I think about having a
Speaker 2: SUP I think about that show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's all we watched, and I think we ran
Speaker 1: out of episodes and so we just watched it again. Yeah,
Speaker 1: which is pretty funny to think about. I would definitely
Speaker 1: recommend going with like a big group. If we had
Speaker 1: like six of us down there, we could play cards
Speaker 1: or something like that. You know, it was great obviously
Speaker 1: being down there just us too, but it would be
Speaker 1: nice to have like kind of a bigger crew to
Speaker 1: hang out with.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Group camping trips are always a good time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So we get down there. Obviously the first thing
Speaker 1: that you see we didn't really see much that night,
Speaker 1: but the first thing we saw in the morning was
Speaker 1: have a sweep by falls, the big main waterfall and
Speaker 1: just absolutely mind blowingly breathtaking, just so much water being
Speaker 1: pushed down that waterfall, like it's got so much freaking
Speaker 1: power it's insane. But what they do with hav A
Speaker 1: sup I two is the only lot three hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty permits per day, and so that's kind of why
Speaker 1: it's such a hard thing to do, is to get
Speaker 1: a permit. They book got really far in advance, that's
Speaker 1: why you have to do the cancelations. And then then
Speaker 1: there was only I found this out too just now
Speaker 1: there's only six hundred and fifty Indigenous people that live
Speaker 1: down there too. So while it is the most remote
Speaker 1: indigenous village, it is also only six hundred and fifty people.
Speaker 1: And the people were pretty nice. They were. I mean,
Speaker 1: I could definitely see like living them, like being them
Speaker 1: living down there, getting super annoyed by all these people
Speaker 1: just coming and going every single day. But I don't
Speaker 1: think we really had any negative run in with anyone
Speaker 1: down there.
Speaker 2: Did We Just the animal run in, but that was it.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So one on what day two or day three,
Speaker 1: we hiked down to Mooney Falls, which is an incredible
Speaker 1: hike down You remember that cliff side.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Oh, I was just talking about when you were
Speaker 2: trying to take a photo of the horse or the
Speaker 2: horses donkey either.
Speaker 1: You're talking about when you're sell the Big Horn sheep.
Speaker 2: No, that was terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So do you remember the hike down into Mooney Falls?
Speaker 2: Yeah, also terrifying. Why the hike into Mooney Falls where
Speaker 2: I had I started crying, Yeah, why, it was really scary.
Speaker 2: So you are hiking, it's like there's all these signs,
Speaker 2: it's like dangerous, dangerous, people have died, so dramatic. But
Speaker 2: you know, I'm taking that to heart and freaking out.
Speaker 2: And then you're hiking down this little, tiny little tunnel
Speaker 2: and then you have to hike backwards this rickety rickety
Speaker 2: ladder and it's so high up and then the water
Speaker 2: from the waterfalls like whacking you, and it's slippery and
Speaker 2: my boots are slipping. It was pretty terrifying.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I personally didn't think it was, but
Speaker 1: I could see why you would think it is. Yep,
Speaker 1: it was, but amazing, right, Yeah. You eventually gritted your
Speaker 1: teeth and got through it and got to the bottom
Speaker 1: and it was worth everything.
Speaker 2: Going down terrifying. Going up is obviously a lot easier.
Speaker 1: So Mooney Falls is it almost looks like the same
Speaker 1: size as Super I Falls. Maybe a little bit smaller,
Speaker 1: but the pool is a lot smaller. You can't really
Speaker 1: like swim around in it quite as much, and it
Speaker 1: doesn't get as much sunk because I think it's a
Speaker 1: little bit more in the canyon. And then we hike
Speaker 1: down a little further down the river and just kind
Speaker 1: of like walked around and enjoyed a lot of the
Speaker 1: scenery down there. What I do kind of wish we
Speaker 1: did well, I guess more so me was you can
Speaker 1: hike like down that river really far and hit the
Speaker 1: Colorado River at a certain point, and I think you
Speaker 1: can even exit that way to a degree, but I'm
Speaker 1: not really sure how that works. So if I were
Speaker 1: to go back, I would venture further down. We just
Speaker 1: kind of spent the whole day, like me entering around
Speaker 1: taking photos and walking around and stuff. And then we
Speaker 1: saw that bigcorn sheep on the way back on like
Speaker 1: this narrow little trail. I remember hearing something off in
Speaker 1: the distance, wondering what it was and looking around and
Speaker 1: eventually you spot this, you know, bighorn sheep. They're not
Speaker 1: really scary from afar, but when you get up close,
Speaker 1: their horns are massive. You don't know how skittish, they're
Speaker 1: going to be how like reactive, they're going to be
Speaker 1: to your presence, and so you really just kind of
Speaker 1: have to take it easy with them.
Speaker 2: And Dean and I were like exploring different parts for
Speaker 2: some reason, and we're like twenty feet away, and Dean
Speaker 2: got it on camera. He couldn't warn me because then
Speaker 2: that might startle the bigcorn sheep. So I'm like looking
Speaker 2: at Dean and then I'm seriously staring face to face,
Speaker 2: like two feet away from this corn sheep, and thankfully
Speaker 2: I screamed an inaudible scream, but oh my god, an
Speaker 2: internal scream. I guess it was so scary. It was
Speaker 2: so scary, But he walked right by me, didn't hurt me.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, probably pretty harmless.
Speaker 2: Like I bet you he was taller than me.
Speaker 1: I know, I know, But I don't think that they're
Speaker 1: going to be like predatorially aggressive towards you for being
Speaker 1: in there.
Speaker 2: They could be if I spooked him and screamed, for sure, And.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of the whole thing with wildlife,
Speaker 1: is like if you sneak up on them and scare them,
Speaker 1: they might react in a way that might hurt you,
Speaker 1: but it was just you know, just being in that moment.
Speaker 1: It's a little more scary than talking about it, I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So anyway, so we spent a couple of days
Speaker 1: down there just exploring. Calen was nursing her injured hip flexer,
Speaker 1: so we didn't really move around that much, which was
Speaker 1: totally fine too, Like it was still just worth just
Speaker 1: hanging out near the falls and just kind of you know,
Speaker 1: waiting for the sun to go down and go to
Speaker 1: sleepwake up, and do the same thing the next day.
Speaker 2: Getting frybread. The frybread was great. I definitely recommend getting
Speaker 2: the fry bread. I grew up on it because I'm
Speaker 2: also Native American and it is a very great Native
Speaker 2: American dish.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for the unforlces, Kailin is a Native American or
Speaker 1: her grandmother is on hundred percent Native American. She's from
Speaker 1: the tribe Band of Traverse Bay, a little Ottawa Indians.
Speaker 2: Little Travers Bay Band of Ottawa Indians. My great great
Speaker 2: grandpa was the chief.
Speaker 1: That's right. That means you got chief blood in you.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, I'm chief Tis chief Tis.
Speaker 1: No, I'm not, but yeah, I do think that have
Speaker 1: a sup I was one of the things that exceeded expectations.
Speaker 1: You see so many things online and then you know,
Speaker 1: getting there and being a little underwhelmed. Have a sup
Speaker 1: I was one of the things where I was like,
Speaker 1: this is just as cool, if not cooler, than I
Speaker 1: thought it was going to be.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to capture how incredible it is. And
Speaker 2: even if you see all those Instagram travel influencers post
Speaker 2: about it and you're like, yeah, that looks cool, but no,
Speaker 2: it's it's cooler in person.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And then a few years prior, like I said,
Speaker 1: my brother went there with a few friends and one
Speaker 1: of our mutual friends, his best friend, Mike, jumped off
Speaker 1: the top of sup By Falls on hundred feet It's
Speaker 1: like ninety six feet, which you know, round up two
Speaker 1: hundred why not he jumped in. My brother has a
Speaker 1: video of it. I think it's one of the coolest
Speaker 1: things ever. And so I went up to the top
Speaker 1: of the falls and like, just like, well, if culture
Speaker 1: can do it, I can do it. And I stood
Speaker 1: up there for what like two and a half hours, I.
Speaker 2: Would say forty five minutes to an hour.
Speaker 1: It was a long time, but like an eternity and
Speaker 1: I was at.
Speaker 2: The bottom camera ready to take the video if he
Speaker 2: ever jumps. He's like pacing back and forth, just scouting it.
Speaker 2: Then he goes down to the bottom, sees how deep
Speaker 2: it is where he's gonna land, goes back up pacing,
Speaker 2: and then someone recognized him, and then the whole bottom
Speaker 2: there were probably like thirty people down there were like cheering,
Speaker 2: deep deep deep jump jump, jump, and then he came down.
Speaker 1: It's so scary being up there. I never jumped off
Speaker 1: anything that high. I do like to think of myself
Speaker 1: as a bit of a daredevil, so I know that
Speaker 1: I could do it and survive. But the jump from
Speaker 1: up there, you're like looking over a cliff, so you
Speaker 1: can't really see where you're gonna land. You like literally
Speaker 1: just just jump blind and then eventually pencil and hit
Speaker 1: the water and it's per permeated, perfeated whatever water because
Speaker 1: the waterfall is hitting it, so it's not like you're
Speaker 1: slapping still water. You could probably belly flop and survive,
Speaker 1: you know, but being up there was terrifying, and so
Speaker 1: eventually didn't jump and walk down with my tail between
Speaker 1: my legs, and then we went to bed, and then
Speaker 1: we left the next morning. I was really sad. When
Speaker 1: we left the next morning, Kaitlyn was obviously still in
Speaker 1: a great deal of pain, and so we walked back
Speaker 1: to super Village. We had heard that there is a
Speaker 1: helicopter that flies you out if you need it.
Speaker 2: But they said you had to get there at five am,
Speaker 2: like wait in line at five am, because they only
Speaker 2: do a few helicopter trips a day. And we went
Speaker 2: I think we got there at like nine.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so I was, you know, totally expecting us
Speaker 1: not to be able to get it. Sure enough, there
Speaker 1: was like two people on the helicopter, so you got
Speaker 1: on first, first go. We had to wait for what
Speaker 1: like thirty minutes just for it to kind of like
Speaker 1: load up supplies and then take off. But it was
Speaker 1: like the easiest thing ever. I would never bank on
Speaker 1: that if you're going down. I would never consider like
Speaker 1: that as an option because you never know how much
Speaker 1: was it.
Speaker 2: I think it's one to fifty.
Speaker 1: I actually know exactly how much. It was ninety five dollars.
Speaker 2: Oh that's so cheap.
Speaker 1: It was eighty five dollars plus a ten dollars credit
Speaker 1: card fee.
Speaker 2: Wow, that's so cheap. Yeah, so you did it's like
Speaker 2: a five minute flight.
Speaker 1: So you got back in ten minutes or five minutes
Speaker 1: or whatever it is, back to the trailhead. And I
Speaker 1: was so mad at myself for not jumping off the
Speaker 1: waterfall that I was like, I have to. And I
Speaker 1: probably would have walked anyways, just because I'm a purist
Speaker 1: like that, if you will. And I wasn't suffering from
Speaker 1: any nagging injuries, which I think is a big, big
Speaker 1: aspect of it as well. But yeah, so I hiked
Speaker 1: back while Kaylen, I don't even know what did you
Speaker 1: do for the three hours that it took me to
Speaker 1: get back up.
Speaker 2: I think I just laid in the van.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, because I gave you the keys. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it's an option, Like let's say you like really roll
Speaker 1: your ankle and you know you can't walk out. That's
Speaker 1: an option. I bet you it's got more than ninety
Speaker 1: five dollars now, but it seemed like a great price. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm shocked by that to save yourself ten miles of
Speaker 1: hiking because.
Speaker 2: I try to fly out of our engagement site spot
Speaker 2: and that was what like five hundred or a thousand SuDS,
Speaker 2: like a thousand yeah, Yeah, so ninety five great price.
Speaker 1: I'm noticing a trend here, Kaylan. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say it's okay with getting to the destination, but you
Speaker 1: always we're looking for an easy way to get back.
Speaker 1: Now that that's a bad thing, huh yeah yeah, so yeah,
Speaker 1: let's have a supie. Obviously, in a very brief nutshell,
Speaker 1: if you're thinking about doing it, I can't recommend it enough.
Speaker 1: It was one of my favorite hiking experiences. I would
Speaker 1: a million percent go back. If you want to do
Speaker 1: it and you have an extra ticket, please let me know.
Speaker 1: I'll come join you.
Speaker 2: And he's serious.
Speaker 1: I am that serious. Is there anything else that we
Speaker 1: want to talk about? Have a suphie, that's it.
Speaker 2: Have blast wear, comfortable shoes, don't take photos of the animals.
Speaker 1: Yeah yep. We went during a cool time too, where
Speaker 1: the leaves were changing, so it was like kind of
Speaker 1: exceptionally beautiful at the time. Granted it was a little chillier,
Speaker 1: but but yeah, I highly recommend it. Get on that
Speaker 1: cancelation website if you want to buy some canceled tickets.
Speaker 1: Just have an open schedule and like you know, if
Speaker 1: you have a two week window, then you can spare
Speaker 1: four days here or there, then just do it that way.
Speaker 1: I think that's kind of my best recommendation for that.
Speaker 1: But yeah, that's a very quick rundown of have a
Speaker 1: sup eye, don't bring any booze, don't bring any firearms,
Speaker 1: don't bring any drones, don't bring anything that you're going
Speaker 1: to get in trouble for. They will catch you and
Speaker 1: you will get kicked out. So just not worth the
Speaker 1: risk anything else. Thank you guys so much for tuning
Speaker 1: into this week's episode. Have been there, Dean that just
Speaker 1: trying to keep it quick. We still hit twenty four
Speaker 1: minutes here, so that's pretty good. Be sure to tune
Speaker 1: in next week. We're going to be talking about Aruba,
Speaker 1: so maybe we'll suck just a little bit less.
Speaker 2: Alas, thank demby