1 00:00:02,000 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me, I'm 2 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:09,640 Speaker 1: a man, I'm forty. I've heard so many players say, well, 3 00:00:09,680 --> 00:00:11,600 Speaker 1: I want to be happy. You want to be happy 4 00:00:11,640 --> 00:00:15,000 Speaker 1: for a day? Edith State is that? Whoo whoo? And 5 00:00:15,160 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 1: now Dan and tie Dan Rubinstein. 6 00:00:19,640 --> 00:00:23,320 Speaker 2: It is not the normal studio that we used to record. 7 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,720 Speaker 2: It is about fifteen minutes later than usual here. But 8 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,400 Speaker 2: alas we are back with the verballer hood on this 9 00:00:31,720 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 2: Saturday night, I guess Sunday morning, depending where you're at. 10 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 2: We were just at the Penn State Oregon game. We 11 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 2: hustled down here to our recording bunker on the south 12 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:43,959 Speaker 2: side of State College. Buddy, we made it. I'm sweating, 13 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 2: I'm a little bit hoarse. We've got a lot to 14 00:00:46,760 --> 00:00:49,600 Speaker 2: talk about tonight. Yes, we were just at a double 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,480 Speaker 2: overtime thrower thriller between Penn State and Oregon. Your Orgon 16 00:00:53,560 --> 00:00:56,960 Speaker 2: Ducks get the better of the Nitty Lions by a 17 00:00:57,000 --> 00:01:02,160 Speaker 2: thirty to twenty four margin. Disclosure, this was the game 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: that we watched the most intently. 19 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 1: Yes, this is the only game that we watched intently 20 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: on Week five. 21 00:01:08,480 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 2: So we have notes, some thoughts, I guess, some snap 22 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 2: judgments as to what we saw or what results we 23 00:01:15,400 --> 00:01:18,039 Speaker 2: saw around the country that we can react to. We 24 00:01:18,120 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: do have an all star cast of reverbs that we 25 00:01:20,760 --> 00:01:21,479 Speaker 2: will get into. 26 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:23,120 Speaker 1: Yes in just a little bit. 27 00:01:23,200 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 2: Maybe if we have some time, we could take some 28 00:01:24,959 --> 00:01:28,400 Speaker 2: YouTube questions or just some YouTube thoughts. Being so, we 29 00:01:28,400 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 2: weren't able to watch as many games as usual in 30 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,920 Speaker 2: week five. But Dan, where do we even start here? 31 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 2: I guess follow or subscribe if you are watching this 32 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:39,959 Speaker 2: late at night, early in the morning, if you want 33 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:41,920 Speaker 2: to help us out for ballers dot com is where 34 00:01:41,959 --> 00:01:42,399 Speaker 2: you can go. 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:46,759 Speaker 1: We walked a half hour to this basement studio setup, 36 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: and your car is still in the parking lot somewhere. 37 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:53,880 Speaker 1: I don't even remember what lot it was. We hooked 38 00:01:53,920 --> 00:01:55,680 Speaker 1: it and high tailed it because we needed to get 39 00:01:55,720 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: this show here. The name of this or the theme of 40 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,480 Speaker 1: this show is. It appears Iowa State had a really 41 00:02:02,520 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: good Saturday, right. It appears drop more detailed thoughts. We're 42 00:02:07,800 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: going to do a more detailed recap of all of 43 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: these games. We're gonna watch all of these games intently. 44 00:02:13,480 --> 00:02:16,400 Speaker 1: It appears it's a good thing that Alabama beat Georgia. 45 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: It appears that the ending of Illinois USC was super exciting. 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: It appears that it was a magnificent Week five of 47 00:02:26,480 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 1: college football unless you are a fan of half of 48 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: these teams. But it appears if you were just a 49 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: college football fan and your team won or loss, but 50 00:02:34,919 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: you got to watch a bunch of other games, it 51 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: appears you had a really fun Week five. So we 52 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 1: are going to do our best. We obviously watched Oregon 53 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,839 Speaker 1: Penn State super intently, and we were able to walk 54 00:02:44,880 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: around tailgates and catch parts of other games. We saw 55 00:02:48,320 --> 00:02:51,960 Speaker 1: parts last night of that was last night, right, Yeah, Florida, 56 00:02:51,960 --> 00:02:55,399 Speaker 1: I'm just I'm all off Florida State, Virginia Knowle's going 57 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:59,080 Speaker 1: down to the Who's and then of course TCU coming 58 00:02:59,120 --> 00:03:03,119 Speaker 1: up just short again to Arizona State, and Houston took 59 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:06,880 Speaker 1: down Oregon State late as well. So we're going to 60 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:09,920 Speaker 1: do our best. We have thoughts. There is going to 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:13,000 Speaker 1: be like, as Tyle likes to say, a part due 62 00:03:13,560 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: yes of our week five weeks, well. 63 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:17,680 Speaker 2: We will definitely get into that in much much more. 64 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: Let's do it. Keep the comments coming. 65 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: If you're watching us live on YouTube, we'll pull some 66 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: of those on screen here. Let us know your thoughts 67 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 2: on what you saw today, What was most meaningful to you, 68 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 2: what you think is going to be the most meaningful 69 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 2: going forward. Why don't we set the stage for the 70 00:03:33,840 --> 00:03:35,560 Speaker 2: people who are watching now, who are. 71 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:36,160 Speaker 1: Listening at home. 72 00:03:36,320 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, you flew in on Friday afternoon, this Friday morning. 73 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 2: We drove up here on Friday afternoon. We spent Friday 74 00:03:45,560 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 2: night in State College, hung out with some friends. We 75 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: spent the better part of today. I'm going to give 76 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:51,680 Speaker 2: a shout out to some of the folks, some of 77 00:03:51,720 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: the many folks that invited us to their tailgates. We 78 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 2: had more than we could possibly get to if we 79 00:03:57,920 --> 00:03:59,920 Speaker 2: didn't get to yours, and you invited us, you will 80 00:03:59,920 --> 00:04:02,320 Speaker 2: be hearing from us. We will definitely reach out and 81 00:04:02,360 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 2: thank you. 82 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,400 Speaker 1: Let's talk the game. Let's talk the game. Let's talk 83 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: about the game. Let's talk about the game. We have 84 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:09,640 Speaker 1: lots of shows that people can listen to to hear 85 00:04:09,680 --> 00:04:15,800 Speaker 1: about our magnificent journey. I was blown away by the 86 00:04:15,840 --> 00:04:19,960 Speaker 1: back and forth of this game. I was entertained thoroughly. Obviously, 87 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,679 Speaker 1: I came away more relieved than happy given the ending 88 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 1: of the game, but the way in which Oregon was 89 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: able to weather driving down the field some but not 90 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: finishing in the end zone. The way Penn State was 91 00:04:36,200 --> 00:04:39,680 Speaker 1: able to make plays when it mattered kind of on 92 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:43,600 Speaker 1: defense the first two or three quarters was super impressive. 93 00:04:43,600 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 1: Penn State's defense did plenty to win this game. You know, 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: they didn't always get off the field with Oregon. The 95 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:51,280 Speaker 1: time of possession stat for a lot of this game 96 00:04:51,360 --> 00:04:56,040 Speaker 1: was skewed pretty heavily towards the Ducks, but the Oregon 97 00:04:56,080 --> 00:05:00,680 Speaker 1: offense made plays. The Penn State defense made a bunch 98 00:05:00,720 --> 00:05:05,039 Speaker 1: of plays. The two big things were the resilience from 99 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:07,599 Speaker 1: both of these teams. Right it was Penn State on 100 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:10,600 Speaker 1: offense going down seventeen to three, having fire Franklin chance 101 00:05:10,640 --> 00:05:14,839 Speaker 1: come from the student section have in our experience not 102 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,719 Speaker 1: super thrilled people with Andy Kotilniki the offensive coordinator for 103 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:23,880 Speaker 1: Penn State, with Drew Aller and for Drew Aller largely 104 00:05:24,200 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: leading a rushing attack for Penn State on the ground, 105 00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,960 Speaker 1: giving the ball to talented running backs, making the plays 106 00:05:30,960 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: at the end really good play calling to lean in 107 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: what Penn State was suddenly doing really well, which was 108 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: wearing down Oregon's defense and Oregon's front. Drew Aller also 109 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,000 Speaker 1: had a magnificent pass to the end zone to I 110 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,960 Speaker 1: think it was Devonte ross Ross, the resilience from Penn 111 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:48,839 Speaker 1: State to tie that game and eventually send it to overtime, 112 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: and then the resilience from Oregon in that setting. We 113 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: didn't watch this game on TV. I can tell you 114 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: very specific things about how this stadium felt the end 115 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: of that game. If you were to hear that volume, 116 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,880 Speaker 1: if you were to hear and feel that energy in 117 00:06:06,920 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: the stadium, you would say to yourself, as I said 118 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,840 Speaker 1: to myself, I could barely think. I don't know how 119 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:16,440 Speaker 1: Oregon is able to do anything with what is around 120 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:20,040 Speaker 1: them and the defense they're playing against, and how everything 121 00:06:20,080 --> 00:06:22,240 Speaker 1: seems to be stacked up against them when a win 122 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: seemed pretty in hand, and for Dante More to make 123 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,640 Speaker 1: the plays he made, you know, avoiding dds and making 124 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,760 Speaker 1: that touchdown throw to I think Gary Bryant, and then 125 00:06:32,800 --> 00:06:35,680 Speaker 1: of course throwing an interception on the two point conversion. 126 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:39,159 Speaker 1: Then Dylan Thieneman coming in and icing things on a 127 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:42,479 Speaker 1: pass that was not floated in the way it probably 128 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: should have been. I can't believe Oregon walked away with 129 00:06:45,680 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 1: a win. I can't believe Oregon had to play this 130 00:06:49,640 --> 00:06:52,040 Speaker 1: as a game after the going up seventeen to three. 131 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: I think guys in front of us left. We had 132 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,840 Speaker 1: people leave. They were so detection and you know what like. 133 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 2: Of course, in hindsight, I'm sure they feel like fools, yeah, 134 00:07:02,520 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 2: because it was an instant classic. But in that moment, 135 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 2: you know as well as I, Penn State felt dead 136 00:07:09,200 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 2: to rights because the offense was stuck in the mud. 137 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 2: The offense offered no pop whatsoever. It wasn't until that 138 00:07:15,640 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 2: ensuing drive where something maybe it was that touchdown a 139 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 2: little fire under Drew Aller, under Andy kotle Nikki, under 140 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 2: the offense, under the team yep, to sort of breathe 141 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 2: some new life into this. The duality of Drew Aller 142 00:07:29,440 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 2: to me is, I mean, we've been talking about this, 143 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 2: as you know, for years now. It feels like forever 144 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,560 Speaker 2: with this guy, we're always kind of waiting for him 145 00:07:38,600 --> 00:07:42,520 Speaker 2: to kind of realize that five star potential. But watching 146 00:07:42,600 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: him up close and personal and seeing how the crowd 147 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:47,920 Speaker 2: reacts to him in real time is not something that 148 00:07:47,960 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 2: we're used to seeing on our couches every Saturday. 149 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:53,600 Speaker 1: They're not right, and. 150 00:07:54,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: Of course you have people cheering him on, but there 151 00:07:57,360 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 2: were a lot of booze out there. My hunch is 152 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,880 Speaker 2: that it was all for James Franklin or the play calling, 153 00:08:01,920 --> 00:08:05,800 Speaker 2: but a lot of that was for Drew and he 154 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:10,239 Speaker 2: went in overwhelming stretch of this game. We were watching 155 00:08:10,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: from our seats. Penn State kept running roots over the middle, high, low, mesh, 156 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it. Right, this is not 157 00:08:19,040 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 2: an x's and O show. But they were doing all 158 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 2: of those things and he had guys that were open. Now, 159 00:08:23,360 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 2: he also had a lot of pressure. It's haasder for 160 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 2: me to say this sitting where I was saying, oh, 161 00:08:28,360 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: he's got a guy open. 162 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 1: He had pressure. 163 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,680 Speaker 2: But there were moments in that game early when he 164 00:08:33,720 --> 00:08:37,680 Speaker 2: didn't any miss guys. And then there was especially a moment, 165 00:08:39,040 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: I guess towards the end of the first half where 166 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:43,080 Speaker 2: play didn't come in on time. 167 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 1: There was a false start. 168 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: You saw him sort of unravel for a few plays 169 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 2: where he's just throwing them just completely wayward. That side 170 00:08:53,320 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 2: of Drew Aller represents the worst of him. The best 171 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,840 Speaker 2: of him is what we saw on that drive where 172 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: they came back down the field and a handful of 173 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 2: play is what was four or five play I don't 174 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 2: know how many it was, and hit de Vonte Ross 175 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,640 Speaker 2: in the corner a layered throw. I mean, that's an 176 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 2: NFL throw, sure, right, So you kind of get both 177 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 2: of them every game. And I even said to you 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 2: at some point, you know, we really haven't had that 179 00:09:17,320 --> 00:09:21,520 Speaker 2: near interception. There was that play early where he. 180 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: Threw as he was being sort of pushed back. 181 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, like there was there was a play early where 182 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,439 Speaker 2: there was it was a questionable decision, but in terms 183 00:09:29,440 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 2: of truly throwing it into traffic, in terms of truly 184 00:09:31,960 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 2: trying to thread something over the middle, we didn't see 185 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,960 Speaker 2: it until the very last moment. Yeah, And so my 186 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 2: hunch is that he's going to take that pretty hard. 187 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:40,439 Speaker 2: And I think it's probably very easy to gang up 188 00:09:40,440 --> 00:09:43,280 Speaker 2: on him given the fact that he threw that interception. 189 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,400 Speaker 2: But I do think this is one of those moments 190 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:47,640 Speaker 2: where you got to give him credit because his first 191 00:09:47,679 --> 00:09:51,640 Speaker 2: half was really bad. Yeah, he was missing guys all 192 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 2: up until that point when Oregon went up seventeen to three, 193 00:09:55,160 --> 00:09:57,679 Speaker 2: and it was at that point that be it through 194 00:09:57,679 --> 00:09:59,960 Speaker 2: the air, on the ground, whatever they had to do, 195 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:01,960 Speaker 2: to your point, doesn't need to be pretty, It just 196 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:04,959 Speaker 2: needs to work. He did step up, and he did 197 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 2: answer the bell. It's a shame that it worked out 198 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 2: the way that it did for him and for Penn State. 199 00:10:09,120 --> 00:10:11,720 Speaker 2: With the way that they fought back. Oregon was the 200 00:10:11,760 --> 00:10:14,719 Speaker 2: better team for the majority of that football game. So 201 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 2: I think Oregon absolutely deserved it, but Penn State fought back, 202 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 2: Aler fought back, Alor led the charge, and so I 203 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: think if you're a Penn State fan, obviously this is disappointing. 204 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:27,480 Speaker 2: Like we walked down to our recording bunker here and 205 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: we heard the chorus of people around us using flowery 206 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 2: language to talk about Penn State ah Man and another 207 00:10:34,720 --> 00:10:36,839 Speaker 2: situation like this, I'm like, what are we going to 208 00:10:36,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: do with Franklin or Aler or cotal Nikki. 209 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 1: I mean, you name it. 210 00:10:39,559 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 2: You can spread enough blame to go around, for sure, 211 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:45,520 Speaker 2: But I think the fight that they showed in this 212 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,319 Speaker 2: one is it's certainly not going to hurt them when 213 00:10:48,320 --> 00:10:50,800 Speaker 2: it comes to a playoff conversation. No, to go into 214 00:10:50,800 --> 00:10:52,679 Speaker 2: double overtime and lose to a team like Oregon, it 215 00:10:52,720 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 2: could well be the number one team in the country 216 00:10:54,760 --> 00:10:56,720 Speaker 2: with what we saw out of Dante more in the road, 217 00:10:58,360 --> 00:11:01,040 Speaker 2: I actually, in a very weird way, you wanted to 218 00:11:01,040 --> 00:11:02,839 Speaker 2: get over the hump, but the way that they fought 219 00:11:02,920 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 2: back I actually found pretty impressive. 220 00:11:04,840 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: Now, they had a lot working for them. 221 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 2: They're playing at home at night in a white out, yeah, right, 222 00:11:09,160 --> 00:11:12,280 Speaker 2: and that's that's an inherent, built in advantage. But nonetheless, 223 00:11:13,240 --> 00:11:15,160 Speaker 2: it felt like they were dead and they came back 224 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:17,520 Speaker 2: to life. So for that, I think they deserve a 225 00:11:17,559 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 2: lot of credit. 226 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,240 Speaker 1: It was also, Yes, it was also just the emotion 227 00:11:22,080 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: in the stadium, both on the field and in the crowd. 228 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 1: It wasn't just the frenzied atmosphere when Oregon was on 229 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: offense or the excitement when Penn State was coming back. 230 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: There were some calls, there were some non calls that. 231 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 2: Yeah, so there was a very questionable call, a controversial 232 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 2: call in that fumble right that we of course did 233 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,000 Speaker 2: not get a great look at. No, you were getting 234 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 2: text messages from Jeff Schwartz who said he was down. 235 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,160 Speaker 2: I was getting text messages from friends who were watching 236 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:53,959 Speaker 2: at home, unbiased narrator Jeff Schwartz, and on both sides, right, 237 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:57,439 Speaker 2: friends of mine were saying they can't overturn that fumble. Obviously, 238 00:11:57,520 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: the people around us were, you know, they were feeling 239 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 2: like it was, you know, a BS call. You might expect, 240 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 2: but alas that went Oregon's way. Alas that was helpful. 241 00:12:09,960 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 1: There was a blade of grass situation that no, Whittington's 242 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 1: knee was hitting a blade of grass. There were obviously 243 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: there were a couple of complaints about non holds. I 244 00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 1: don't know if Oregon fans have complaints. This is not 245 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,200 Speaker 1: something that I was able to watch on TV and 246 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: see like clear replays of We were in the stadium 247 00:12:26,520 --> 00:12:30,880 Speaker 1: and you know, the Penn State replay operator was trying 248 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:33,560 Speaker 1: to sell a story to Penn State fans, which he 249 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:35,320 Speaker 1: or she very well should. 250 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,600 Speaker 2: They kept They kept replaying it and then rewinding it 251 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: and replaying it. 252 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,719 Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, so yeah, there were there were calls that 253 00:12:41,800 --> 00:12:44,120 Speaker 1: seemed to raise the ero of a lot of people. 254 00:12:44,240 --> 00:12:48,320 Speaker 1: And I'm excited to watch this game from a TV perspective, 255 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:51,840 Speaker 1: but uh man, the swings in this game were crazy. 256 00:12:52,080 --> 00:12:54,360 Speaker 1: And we had circled this game, as had a lot 257 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:56,640 Speaker 1: of people before the season, like Oregon Go and cross 258 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,480 Speaker 1: Country new Big ten team going to play against Penn State, 259 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: then it was gonna be white out, you know. And 260 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:03,760 Speaker 1: you know, by the way, as good as this game was, 261 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: this is what Fox doesn't want you to see a 262 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 1: whiteout at night between two strong teams, right, so hopefully 263 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,320 Speaker 1: it was a good watch for people on NBC. 264 00:13:12,240 --> 00:13:14,000 Speaker 2: Let me just say, yeah, I mean I've been to 265 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 2: a lot of Penn State night games. Yes, I've been 266 00:13:16,120 --> 00:13:20,920 Speaker 2: to you know, some that are better than others. The 267 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 2: experience of a full blown white out. The last one 268 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:27,800 Speaker 2: that I was at, the last white out that I 269 00:13:27,840 --> 00:13:29,520 Speaker 2: was as, the same one that you were at. Yeah, 270 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,439 Speaker 2: it was a Jimmy Closson game back in like two 271 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:32,160 Speaker 2: thousand and seven. 272 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:33,240 Speaker 1: So it's been a minute. 273 00:13:33,280 --> 00:13:35,760 Speaker 2: Obviously, we do the show time doesn't really allow us 274 00:13:35,800 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 2: to do these night games maybe the way that we 275 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,840 Speaker 2: would like. It is truly a bucket list experience for 276 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 2: people who have never experienced it. Yeah, even if you're 277 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 2: not a Penn State fan, I give I just I 278 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 2: can't say enough great things about the experience of it, 279 00:13:51,240 --> 00:13:54,160 Speaker 2: getting to the seats, walking around the concourse. 280 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,760 Speaker 1: You have notes, operations notes. That was an absolute disaster. 281 00:13:57,880 --> 00:13:59,559 Speaker 2: And I don't know how much of that is due 282 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:02,320 Speaker 2: to ongoing stadium renovations, right, but all I know is 283 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 2: coming back from the bathroom, there was a woman to 284 00:14:04,160 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 2: my right having a panic attack, a kid to my 285 00:14:06,200 --> 00:14:08,480 Speaker 2: left who was about to puke up his guts. Yeah, 286 00:14:08,520 --> 00:14:11,640 Speaker 2: and everybody going nowhere for about forty five minutes for 287 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 2: like ten yards so at Kraft is watching. Maybe try 288 00:14:15,160 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 2: to do something about that after you fix the press box. 289 00:14:17,800 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 2: But alas that's a different conversation for a different day. 290 00:14:21,440 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 2: The stadium itself though, inside watching that all go down, 291 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 2: I mean it's very like I have this watch on. 292 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,800 Speaker 1: It goes off when it gets to like ninety decibels. 293 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: It was buzzing the whole time, of course, I mean 294 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:36,280 Speaker 2: it's it's a loud experience, but one of those true, 295 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 2: truly great like college football moments that you just can't 296 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 2: experience in most places. 297 00:14:40,360 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: I have a lot of thoughts, too many for the 298 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 1: night when there are so many different games to say, 299 00:14:45,520 --> 00:14:50,880 Speaker 1: it appears that it's blaw baty blah goosebumps, absolute goosebumps. 300 00:14:51,400 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 1: A perfect college football atmosphere, one of one, A plus 301 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 1: you pake, take your pick. The white out exceeded my 302 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,680 Speaker 1: incredibly high expectationations. Penn State fans were to the man, 303 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:07,720 Speaker 1: to the woman, to the kid whatever. Incredible college football 304 00:15:07,720 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: fans loud when they were supposed to be loud in 305 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,000 Speaker 1: their seats as long as they weren't having panic attacks 306 00:15:12,040 --> 00:15:15,280 Speaker 1: or throwing up on the concourse. Like I don't have 307 00:15:15,320 --> 00:15:18,320 Speaker 1: a single note about the Penn State fans about the 308 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: white out experience, just that it like nearly brought tears 309 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,160 Speaker 1: to my eyes, that it was like a semi religious 310 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:29,320 Speaker 1: experience to go to this type of game. I will say, 311 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,920 Speaker 1: you can kind of see the green under there. Dan 312 00:15:31,960 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: had a green T shirt and after that controversial call, 313 00:15:35,880 --> 00:15:38,760 Speaker 1: looked at me and said, get a little nippy in here. 314 00:15:38,800 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm going to put on my Navy pole. Get a 315 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: little Nippi in here. Maybe I should. 316 00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: That was when it started getting a little bit testier 317 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 2: as you might expect, but now overwhelmingly I think I 318 00:15:48,400 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: think the fans were really good hosts, and you know, 319 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:53,800 Speaker 2: I was glad to be there with you. 320 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: It was a cool experience. I was to see this game. 321 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: Nobody I'd rather go to a Penn State white out WAW. 322 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: And I got to say, this is not a victory lap. 323 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: This is not my intention at all here, But anybody 324 00:16:05,200 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: who has experienced something similar to what I'm about to 325 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: say will understand what I'm saying. There is nothing in 326 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,600 Speaker 1: college football like a roaring crowd like the frenzied Penn 327 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:19,520 Speaker 1: State white out crowd. The only thing that comes close 328 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: is when your team goes to that crowd and turns 329 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,400 Speaker 1: it into a library and Oregon at the end of 330 00:16:26,440 --> 00:16:30,360 Speaker 1: that game, because it was such a sudden moment, and like, 331 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 1: I didn't cheer, I didn't go hooray, you be whatever. 332 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: I just noted that. Obviously Penn State fans weren't cheering 333 00:16:41,800 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: when the team was on offense, but to hear a play, 334 00:16:45,560 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: I think the announced crowd was like one hundred and 335 00:16:47,000 --> 00:16:52,920 Speaker 1: eleven thousand people pindrop deflation at that moment. And that's 336 00:16:53,440 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: the beauty of sports and the horror of sports all 337 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:56,600 Speaker 1: in one. 338 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:58,800 Speaker 2: The only other time in my life I've experienced that 339 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,720 Speaker 2: was the two in five Notre Dame Bush Push loss. Yeah, 340 00:17:03,240 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 2: and we had a much better dvantage point of what 341 00:17:06,480 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 2: went down tonight. But I recall very vividly everybody looking 342 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 2: around knowing what happened, but almost in disbelief. 343 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: We got to go home. 344 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:20,320 Speaker 2: Now, nobody could understand what happened and tell the story often. 345 00:17:20,400 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 2: But like my friend and I drove back to our hotel, 346 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 2: we sat at an Applebee's and ate boneless wings, and 347 00:17:26,000 --> 00:17:28,880 Speaker 2: we didn't speak to each other for like forty five minutes. 348 00:17:28,560 --> 00:17:29,439 Speaker 1: And then you kissed. 349 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 2: We weren't mad at each other, just didn't We didn't 350 00:17:32,320 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 2: know how to emote because of what we saw, and 351 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 2: this felt very similar. I was wondering on the way 352 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,679 Speaker 2: up here if we would have some sort of instant 353 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,200 Speaker 2: classic experience like that. I'm glad we did, obviously, I 354 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,600 Speaker 2: wish the outcome a little bit different. What does this 355 00:17:45,680 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 2: mean now? As an organ fan? What does this mean now? 356 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,920 Speaker 2: As we kind of put together this Forballer Top twelve 357 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:55,840 Speaker 2: verballers dot com if you were interested in voting in 358 00:17:55,880 --> 00:17:58,159 Speaker 2: this poll, by the way, you know what, I'm just 359 00:17:58,200 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 2: going to open it up to everybody. Yeah, so if 360 00:18:00,560 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: you just go Overballers dot com you can sign up, 361 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,880 Speaker 2: whether you're paid or free. Just this is a big 362 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 2: week of games. I want to get everybody's input. I 363 00:18:06,720 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 2: think it's fair going out there. Sign up now. The 364 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:14,040 Speaker 2: link goes live at seven Tomorrow morning Eastern time. Vote 365 00:18:14,040 --> 00:18:17,480 Speaker 2: in the poll before you know, midday Monday, and we'll 366 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,040 Speaker 2: read it off on the next episode or on Tuesday episode, 367 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:24,439 Speaker 2: I should say. But for the audience at home that 368 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,200 Speaker 2: is trying to kind of make sense of this, and 369 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:28,120 Speaker 2: we have a few other games that we can react 370 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:31,159 Speaker 2: to the results without having watched them in great detail. 371 00:18:33,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: Where should Oregon fans where should non Oregon fans slash 372 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 2: college football fans put this? I have some thoughts, but 373 00:18:40,240 --> 00:18:41,920 Speaker 2: you're an Oregon guy, you should probably go first. 374 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:46,720 Speaker 1: Oregon went into the toughest atmosphere on their schedule this year. 375 00:18:47,280 --> 00:18:50,720 Speaker 1: That is coupled with an incredible defense. A couple atmosphere 376 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: and defense together. There's nothing on their schedule. Washington is 377 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: a tough place to play. Washington does not have Penn 378 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:58,320 Speaker 1: State's defense. That is not a controversial statement to make. 379 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:03,720 Speaker 1: They won that game, and they are ahead of schedule 380 00:19:03,760 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: because this year's team didn't seem to be the kind 381 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,680 Speaker 1: of team with the experience needed to go to Penn 382 00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: State and win against this type of defense in this 383 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:16,440 Speaker 1: type of atmosphere. So that puts Oregon ahead of this 384 00:19:16,600 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: schedule I thought they were on. So that means Oregon 385 00:19:20,280 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 1: like going undefeated this year seems reasonable to think about now, 386 00:19:26,040 --> 00:19:28,600 Speaker 1: whereas it didn't a couple weeks ago. As good as 387 00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: they've looked or even in the preseason. So Oregon looks 388 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: like one of the best three teams in the country 389 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 1: right now, something like that. That's how I feel at 390 00:19:37,280 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: the moment, given what teams have or haven't been tested. Now, 391 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:43,639 Speaker 1: certainly we're going to, you know, unpack a lot of 392 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,119 Speaker 1: the games that happened among the teams in the top ten, twelve, 393 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,320 Speaker 1: fifteen to twenty that could be potential playoff teams. And 394 00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: I think Penn State's a really good team. I think 395 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: Oregon's an excellent team. Penn State has the potential to 396 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:58,320 Speaker 1: be an excellent team. It's late September. You're not who 397 00:19:58,359 --> 00:20:02,359 Speaker 1: you are as a finished team late September. So Oregon 398 00:20:02,440 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: might go through growing pains, have some injury issues, knock 399 00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:07,159 Speaker 1: on wood. Penn State might have growing pains or injury 400 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:10,399 Speaker 1: issues knock on wood. But it just appears that these 401 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 1: two teams have the potential to be excellent with a 402 00:20:14,920 --> 00:20:17,720 Speaker 1: larger if for Penn State. Where do you put where. 403 00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 2: Do you put Oregon in your football or top twelve? 404 00:20:20,600 --> 00:20:22,719 Speaker 1: I have to watch the other games before I can 405 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:25,640 Speaker 1: say with certainty, but you. 406 00:20:25,640 --> 00:20:27,159 Speaker 2: Got to move them up, right, You got to move 407 00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:29,399 Speaker 2: them up after going to Happy Valley winning at a 408 00:20:29,440 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 2: white out. I mean, I'm not saying they should be 409 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 2: number one, but I think it warrants consideration given the 410 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: fact that they came into this setting and I mean 411 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,919 Speaker 2: it was a gritty they did. I'm not gonna say 412 00:20:41,960 --> 00:20:43,640 Speaker 2: they gave it away, but they did let Penn State 413 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:46,760 Speaker 2: into it. You know, maybe maybe because Penn State started 414 00:20:46,760 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 2: calling different plays and executed better. I don't know, we 415 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: have to rewatch, but I think the takeaway for me 416 00:20:51,640 --> 00:20:53,399 Speaker 2: on the Oregon side, and I mentioned this to you 417 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: when we were up there, but it's definitely a recurring 418 00:20:56,280 --> 00:20:58,320 Speaker 2: theme throughout college football this year, where so many of 419 00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:00,840 Speaker 2: these quarterbacks and we could maybe talk about Ty Simpson 420 00:21:00,840 --> 00:21:02,520 Speaker 2: a little bit here, sure, but like some of these 421 00:21:02,600 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: quarterbacks that felt like a question mark coming into the season, 422 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 2: most of them are going into their big games now 423 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 2: completely unphased. Right, Dante Moore did not look phased. 424 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: Now the moment at all, not at all too big 425 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:18,919 Speaker 1: for him, with the things he made, the high leverage 426 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:21,080 Speaker 1: moments that he just seemed bigger than. 427 00:21:21,480 --> 00:21:23,520 Speaker 2: I mean, you could make a case that Aler seemed 428 00:21:23,520 --> 00:21:26,439 Speaker 2: more phased than Dante Moore for a good chunk of 429 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: this game, and he was playing at home and the 430 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:30,919 Speaker 2: crowd was at his side at least for most of 431 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 2: the game. But whether it's Dante Moore, whether it's Ty 432 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:40,160 Speaker 2: Simpson who went to Georgia and one, whether it's any 433 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,200 Speaker 2: number of new quarterbacks. I mean, I could throw CJ. 434 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 2: Carr out there, but CJ. Carr probably isn't, as you know, 435 00:21:46,160 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 2: notable in the national national stage at this juncture. Being 436 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:51,919 Speaker 2: so they have two losses, but so many new quarterbacks 437 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:53,840 Speaker 2: seem like they even if you go, you know, JK 438 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:56,440 Speaker 2: as a cow like, some of these new guys seem 439 00:21:56,520 --> 00:21:59,359 Speaker 2: like they've been able to step in and just be 440 00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 2: really affected and unfazed by the big. Bryce Underwood's another example. 441 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,720 Speaker 2: These guys who just seem like they're. 442 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,399 Speaker 1: Jada Mayov almost beat Illinois today. 443 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,800 Speaker 2: They're ready for it, right, So I think I was 444 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: damn impressed with Oregon coming in and went in this 445 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,720 Speaker 2: football game. Again, we need to go back and kind 446 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,760 Speaker 2: of watch the tape bute, and you know, to that end, 447 00:22:20,800 --> 00:22:22,520 Speaker 2: I was impressed by Penn State and their ability to 448 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:25,560 Speaker 2: come back. So, yes, thirty to twenty four was your 449 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: final double overtime. Let us know down in the comments, 450 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 2: let us know in the chat right insoliverable at gmail 451 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:33,199 Speaker 2: dot com. Your thoughts on this game. And how it 452 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,920 Speaker 2: affects maybe where you're ranking these teams. It won't hurt 453 00:22:36,960 --> 00:22:40,520 Speaker 2: either when it comes to the playoffs. Clearly, I think 454 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,000 Speaker 2: the committee will will respond well to a game like this. 455 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:46,439 Speaker 2: It was on a razor's edge. Yeah, in the end, 456 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:47,920 Speaker 2: it was on a razor's edge the way that Penn 457 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:49,200 Speaker 2: State came back and made it a game. 458 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 1: So also, I'm going to look directly at camera, Dan 459 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: Landing played Derre Hill as often as you would like to, 460 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: because he seems to be an excellent running back in 461 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: a way that could be supert for the Hills and. 462 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,400 Speaker 2: Moore, two true freshmen who were having just an incredible 463 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,280 Speaker 2: impact for the organ ducts. 464 00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 1: So that's the game that we were at. 465 00:23:12,560 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 2: Bear in mind that as we go through some of 466 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,840 Speaker 2: this other action, we did not get to watch any 467 00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 2: of this stuff in quite the level of detail that 468 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,520 Speaker 2: we would prefer. Correct, that doesn't mean we can't react 469 00:23:23,560 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 2: to it, because we are as plugged in as anybody's 470 00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 2: going to be. 471 00:23:27,560 --> 00:23:30,040 Speaker 1: Tell me what you're excited to learn about these games? 472 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:32,919 Speaker 1: This is your reaction to the result. What are you 473 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: excited to see when you look at the back and 474 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: forth of these games. 475 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,040 Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited to look at the Bama Georgia game, YEP, 476 00:23:40,119 --> 00:23:44,320 Speaker 2: in particular because we were able to kind of get 477 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: some of the scores and get some of the feedback 478 00:23:46,280 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: from people on what they were seeing in the Bama 479 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 2: Georgia game, which ended up being close twenty four to 480 00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 2: twenty one, but seems to be another situation in which 481 00:23:55,160 --> 00:23:58,720 Speaker 2: ty Simpson was dealing. Yes, and outside of that first 482 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 2: game that we saw Florida State, ty Simpson has been money. 483 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 2: He's been incredible, and so this was another opportunity for 484 00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:09,639 Speaker 2: him to I think, get some redemption after that opening loss. Yes, 485 00:24:09,760 --> 00:24:12,720 Speaker 2: so to go to Georgia and win against well, I 486 00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 2: don't know if it's as good at Georgia defense as 487 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: we've ever seen. Probably not, probably, you know, a few 488 00:24:17,640 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 2: rungs down, but it's still a Georgia defense. And still 489 00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,159 Speaker 2: in Athens, Alabama was shut out by the way and 490 00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,240 Speaker 2: the second half of the second half. In the second half, 491 00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 2: I think Kirby Smart is now one in seven against 492 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 2: Bama something like that, if I'm not mistaken. But Bama 493 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:36,240 Speaker 2: never trailed in this game. Ty Simpson scored three touchdowns 494 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:40,160 Speaker 2: to passing one rushing. They didn't turn the ball over 495 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:44,480 Speaker 2: on the road, which is important. Georgia did fumble the 496 00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,240 Speaker 2: ball back, did give one back to Alabama in this 497 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,840 Speaker 2: football game, but it was the passing game that was 498 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 2: the difference. That it was, Ty Simpson, it was Jeremy Bernard, 499 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:53,679 Speaker 2: the way that they were. 500 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 1: He's real good. By the way, Williams rightfully gets a 501 00:24:57,000 --> 00:24:59,919 Speaker 1: ton of attention. Jeremy Bernard is good. Transferred over from wat. 502 00:25:00,400 --> 00:25:02,119 Speaker 2: I think what I'm most interested in seeing, though, is 503 00:25:02,119 --> 00:25:04,560 Speaker 2: a Georgia game plan, because the notes sheet that I 504 00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,639 Speaker 2: have that Jake kindly put together for us. 505 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:07,200 Speaker 1: Thank you, Jake. 506 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 2: If you're watching, his comment was that it didn't seem 507 00:25:10,840 --> 00:25:12,400 Speaker 2: my Georgia threw the ball nearly enough. 508 00:25:12,920 --> 00:25:15,800 Speaker 1: Interesting and because they ran well, it appears. 509 00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 2: It appears, and we know that that's sort of default 510 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,159 Speaker 2: mode for Kirby Smart. But I'm curious to get a 511 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,360 Speaker 2: better sense for the rhymes and rhythms of this game, 512 00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:27,600 Speaker 2: to understand why that happened, if if that was just 513 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,399 Speaker 2: the flow of the game, or if that was a 514 00:25:30,400 --> 00:25:33,359 Speaker 2: more curious decision by you know, Georgia on the play 515 00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 2: calling side. I got a squeaky chair here, Ty, It's okay, 516 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: it's okay, it's Okay, So that for me, I think 517 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: is going to be imperative to understand a little bit 518 00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,800 Speaker 2: more about and you know, obviously Alabama gets a big win. 519 00:25:47,880 --> 00:25:48,120 Speaker 1: Now. 520 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 2: You know, people were very quick I I was kind 521 00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 2: of one of them to write a long season to 522 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: write off Alabama after that lost to Florida State. 523 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:00,440 Speaker 1: We can talk about the Stake game, man, I don't 524 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: know we could talk about that. 525 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,760 Speaker 2: We did watch that one, yes, but you know, I'm 526 00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:06,760 Speaker 2: most curious, I think to get a better sense for 527 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 2: the flow of this game and how it impacts how 528 00:26:10,359 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 2: I feel about both of these teams now moving forward. 529 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 2: I think that for me is a big one. We 530 00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:19,879 Speaker 2: could talk about the USC Illinois game. Yeah, so Illinois 531 00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 2: kicks the last second field goal, they end up winning 532 00:26:21,960 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 2: thirty four to thirty two. We were watching this one 533 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 2: as we were hopping between tailgates, correct, and it was 534 00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:34,359 Speaker 2: basically a shootout, right. We saw five hundred yards I 535 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 2: think from Illinois close to five hundred yards from the 536 00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,639 Speaker 2: USC side of things. If you look at the stat 537 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 2: sheet based on what we saw, it certainly appeared as 538 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,719 Speaker 2: if both teams were doing a pretty good job of it. 539 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 2: But Luke Altmeyer was a little bit more efficient, Luke Altmeyer, 540 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:52,720 Speaker 2: a little bit more pop in the passing game. USC 541 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 2: on the road, weird kickoff time, Yeah, we talked a. 542 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,520 Speaker 1: Week after last week's weird kickoff time after one that 543 00:27:00,560 --> 00:27:01,400 Speaker 1: we saw a week ago. 544 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, and so we were curious about this point spread, right, 545 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:07,800 Speaker 2: And I think I made the comment that I would buy. 546 00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:08,720 Speaker 1: The Tommy Trojan helmet. 547 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 2: I would wear the Trojan helmet if the US he 548 00:27:10,560 --> 00:27:12,679 Speaker 2: found a way to cover this point spread. There were 549 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,800 Speaker 2: certainly moments in this game where you kind of wondered, like, 550 00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,800 Speaker 2: all right, US he could probably zoom out to the 551 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,360 Speaker 2: lead and cover this points bread. So it was never, 552 00:27:19,119 --> 00:27:22,200 Speaker 2: at least up until the final gun, it didn't seem 553 00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 2: like that was that far gone a possibility. But Illinois 554 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 2: to fight back after getting throttled a week ago against Indiana. 555 00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 2: That's more resilience, yea is I think another thing more 556 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:37,320 Speaker 2: to the point of you know, you lose. I don't 557 00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:38,879 Speaker 2: want to sit here and say that Illinois is a 558 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,879 Speaker 2: playoff team. I don't think I feel like Illinois a 559 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:41,440 Speaker 2: playoff team. 560 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:43,439 Speaker 1: But season, it is a long season. 561 00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 2: For in one a lot of stuff can break, and 562 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,040 Speaker 2: I think this was a quality went at home against 563 00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 2: a good USC team, maybe not as good on defense 564 00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:52,359 Speaker 2: as we thought a week didn't. 565 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:53,400 Speaker 1: We think it was a good win. 566 00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:57,440 Speaker 2: Butis to bounce back in the manner that they did. 567 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:01,679 Speaker 2: I'm most I think to see how they went at 568 00:28:01,800 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 2: USC and to that point, what USC's defense looked like 569 00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,439 Speaker 2: against a better offense, because that's the thing we've been 570 00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,240 Speaker 2: touting the SC defense. 571 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: The offense. 572 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:15,919 Speaker 2: I think we expect we're going to have a pretty 573 00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 2: good offense if it's a Lincoln Riley team, but defensively, 574 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: if there was a big step forward there, that would 575 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 2: be the talking point and that could be the thing 576 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 2: that catapults them forward. But agree, we didn't see that. 577 00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,119 Speaker 2: It doesn't mean it's not better. It just means we 578 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:30,360 Speaker 2: didn't see it in this game. 579 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: Right, Agree? Yeah, I mean, look, they didn't let Indiana 580 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,920 Speaker 1: beat them twice, and it's a tough spot for USC. 581 00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600 Speaker 1: But USC put themselves in position to win that game 582 00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,440 Speaker 1: from what I could tell, Yeah, apparently Gus Johnson had 583 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: like a crazed moment when took the lead with I 584 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:49,560 Speaker 1: think a little under two minutes left. Excited to watch that, 585 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:56,800 Speaker 1: of course, but good for the ALIONI that seems incredible 586 00:28:56,800 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 1: of them to be able to get down the field 587 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,200 Speaker 1: and kick that game winning field goal. It appears it 588 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:04,600 Speaker 1: was a great moment for Illinois. 589 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the game that I think I am 590 00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:12,160 Speaker 2: most interested in watching a little bit more is probably 591 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 2: this lsu ole Miss game. 592 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 1: Give this a quick reset for people just tuning it out. 593 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:20,240 Speaker 1: We didn't watch a lot of games today because we 594 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,760 Speaker 1: were at the Penn State Oregon game, and so our 595 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: schedule of giving more detailed recaps is going to be 596 00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:29,560 Speaker 1: a little bit different this week. Yeah, we have a 597 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,680 Speaker 1: thank you for watching. We haven't had a lot of 598 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 1: thoughts about the Oregon Penn State game and will have 599 00:29:34,280 --> 00:29:36,479 Speaker 1: many more thoughts about the rest of these games. 600 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,160 Speaker 2: Lsu ole Miss is the one that I'm most curious 601 00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 2: to go back and learn a little bit more about. 602 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 2: So ole Miss did get the win twenty five or 603 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 2: twenty four, excuse me to nineteen and one by five. 604 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: It was a trend Ad Chambliss game. Again. 605 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:54,360 Speaker 2: He was outstanding, just seems as he has been. Yeah, 606 00:29:54,400 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 2: three hundred and fourteen yards in a touchdown. It was 607 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 2: this third straight three hundred yard game. Three hundred and 608 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 2: eight yards from scrimmage. I don't know how you can 609 00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 2: bench him at this point, like you have to ride 610 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,959 Speaker 2: the hot hand. Even if Austin Simmons is back and healthy. 611 00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 2: Ole Miss now goes from a very interesting situation of 612 00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:18,000 Speaker 2: losing Jackson Dart. Obviously he's a first round draft pick, 613 00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:22,400 Speaker 2: Go Giants. Now suddenly in the offseason we're talking about 614 00:30:22,400 --> 00:30:25,160 Speaker 2: Austin Simmons. He's young, He's got a lot of potential, 615 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 2: kind of like all sec potential. By the time he 616 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:31,920 Speaker 2: kind of matures and becomes his finished product, I think 617 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,040 Speaker 2: is still a fair assessment for him, for sure. But 618 00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:37,720 Speaker 2: Trindidad Chambliss a guy who if you kind of read 619 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:39,480 Speaker 2: I was talking to you about this earlier, if you 620 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: read what people have said about him, Temple thought they 621 00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:45,080 Speaker 2: were going to get Trindidad Chambliss from fair Estate, but 622 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 2: ole Miss swooped in kind of in the eleventh hour. 623 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,280 Speaker 2: They were able to get him into Oxford, and now 624 00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 2: ole Miss is in I think the enviable position of 625 00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: having a real quarterback depth and a quarterback controversy in 626 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:58,680 Speaker 2: the best possible way, because you got to ride the 627 00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 2: hot hand right now. LSU's defense, I'm probably most interested 628 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,440 Speaker 2: in seeing what they looked like against Trinidad Chambliss, because 629 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680 Speaker 2: that has been the side much to the point of, 630 00:31:08,720 --> 00:31:10,960 Speaker 2: like USC, we're talking about defense, We've been talking a 631 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: lot about LSU and their defense lately. They still only 632 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: gave up twenty four points, so I want to see 633 00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:17,080 Speaker 2: what that looks. 634 00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: Like my hunches. 635 00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:20,600 Speaker 2: They still played pretty well, they just couldn't stop him, right, 636 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 2: and so how that kind of projects now moving forward 637 00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 2: on the LSU side is interesting. Old Miss is a 638 00:31:27,560 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 2: really interesting case now, you know, because Old Miss is 639 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,080 Speaker 2: one of these teams that before the season with a 640 00:31:33,120 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 2: lot new schedule. 641 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 1: Obviously it's it's. 642 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:42,280 Speaker 2: Like not as tough as some of their peers correct, right, 643 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:45,160 Speaker 2: and to kind of now pick up this win to 644 00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 2: do what they've been doing this season, it does raise 645 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,400 Speaker 2: some questions about how high is too high for Ole 646 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 2: Miss at this point now that we're through September, right, 647 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 2: so that for me is going to be really really 648 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 2: fascinating to go back and watch. 649 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:01,400 Speaker 1: Yes, so no, Caden Durham for LSU were talking about that. 650 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: He was I think after last week questionable with an 651 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: ankle injury, but it seemed to be uh yeah, that 652 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,560 Speaker 1: the Trinidad Chamblers show both on the ground and through 653 00:32:11,600 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 1: the air, and this puts ole Miss. They were top 654 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 1: fifteen heading into this game. Gives them a new interesting 655 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:23,880 Speaker 1: signature win. I think LSU is probably going to be 656 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 1: searching a little bit more with offensive stuff just because 657 00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,840 Speaker 1: it was another week where it doesn't appear they could 658 00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: move the ball super consistently any means, any direction. So 659 00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 1: uh yeah, ole Miss is you know, Trinidad Chandler's going 660 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:39,720 Speaker 1: to go to Temple and now is all of a 661 00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:43,720 Speaker 1: sudden single handedly not single handedly, but becoming a major 662 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:49,400 Speaker 1: reason that the SEC race could be affected by Ole Miss. 663 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: It's wild, man, and I'm real curious to see, Like, 664 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 2: are we going to start hearing people talk about Trinidad 665 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 2: Chamblin as a Heisman contender? Yeah, seriously, because it's wide open. 666 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: That's reuly wide open. 667 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,920 Speaker 1: A productive quarterback on a top ten, twelve fifteen team. 668 00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 2: Sure, I mean truly, we can be talking about Dante 669 00:33:07,000 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 2: more in Trinidad Chambliss and I don't even think that 670 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: would be out of out of character I mean at 671 00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 2: this point. 672 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 1: So that's something that we. 673 00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,360 Speaker 2: Got to go back and dissect in a little bit 674 00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 2: more detail. I also think, kind of on the flip 675 00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,800 Speaker 2: side of quarterbacks that are stepping up, there are situations, 676 00:33:25,880 --> 00:33:28,680 Speaker 2: particularly in the SEC where we're going to see and 677 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 2: hear a lot more about teams that have not stepped up. 678 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:34,800 Speaker 2: Arkansas got throttled by Notre Dame. I did not see 679 00:33:34,800 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 2: that one coming. I didn't and people warned us in Fayetteville, 680 00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,320 Speaker 2: in Faithville, people warned us, Yeah, no, matter what you 681 00:33:42,400 --> 00:33:45,680 Speaker 2: think you know about Arkansas and their offense, the vibes 682 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:46,960 Speaker 2: are really bad right. 683 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,240 Speaker 1: Now, especially at like an eleven am kick. 684 00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, eleven AMK And I said, I wrote back to 685 00:33:51,800 --> 00:33:55,120 Speaker 2: some people and I was like, Yo, Notre Dame's defense 686 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:58,320 Speaker 2: is a real problem right now, and great there. Arkansas 687 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:01,320 Speaker 2: has been playing pretty good offense. I don't think they're 688 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 2: going to stop them. And the overwhelming response was no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Right, 689 00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 2: you don't know the vibe. 690 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,360 Speaker 1: It's cute that you think that it's cute that you 691 00:34:10,400 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 1: don't know the vibes right now in Fadeville. 692 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 3: Right. 693 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:14,719 Speaker 1: Turns out they were right. I mean, by the time 694 00:34:14,800 --> 00:34:17,400 Speaker 1: you listen to this, who knows what Sam Pittman's job situation. 695 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:23,280 Speaker 2: There's probably going to be a lingering question about Hugh Freese. Sure, 696 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 2: Hugh Freeze lost to Texas A and M in a 697 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:29,160 Speaker 2: bit of a rock fight sixteen to ten. But Jackson 698 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 2: Arnold did not look good from what I understand. 699 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,160 Speaker 1: One touchdown I don't know. I don't even know if 700 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 1: it was on offense. We'll say they could. 701 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,960 Speaker 2: Not run the ball at all, right, which they actually 702 00:34:37,000 --> 00:34:40,239 Speaker 2: have been okay at doing. But when you can't run 703 00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 2: the ball, that puts more pressure on Jackson Arnold. And 704 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 2: if Jackson Arnold isn't the truth, then suddenly your offense 705 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:47,200 Speaker 2: is in a world of court. 706 00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:48,640 Speaker 1: They only score ten points. 707 00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 2: Now, Adam has got a good defense, and I think 708 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:52,200 Speaker 2: we saw that on display. 709 00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 1: Maybe they do. They did get lit up by Notre Dame. 710 00:34:55,360 --> 00:34:57,759 Speaker 2: No Dame could have a good offense necessarily. We're sort 711 00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 2: of talking in circles here, But I like defense. I 712 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:02,480 Speaker 2: like it before the start of the year. I still 713 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,879 Speaker 2: like it now. Auburn's got a ton of talent, yep, 714 00:35:05,320 --> 00:35:07,319 Speaker 2: so you would expect that they would get a little 715 00:35:07,360 --> 00:35:10,520 Speaker 2: bit more out of that. They win by six, I 716 00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 2: guess they don't cover the six and a half point 717 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: spread that we talked about all week. But there's going 718 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 2: to be a conversation I think about Hugh Freeze before long, 719 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,319 Speaker 2: because this is a team that's built to win. They 720 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,279 Speaker 2: went out, they tried their best to bring in the 721 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 2: best possible talent via the transfer portal, and to a 722 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:28,640 Speaker 2: large extent, they did that. But if they're not getting 723 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 2: those w's, that's that's problem. So I got to go 724 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 2: back and see what happened here. 725 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,239 Speaker 1: His line does not seem like it was a fun 726 00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:36,240 Speaker 1: day to be an Auburn fan. I think he averaged 727 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:37,480 Speaker 1: three in change yards per. 728 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:41,200 Speaker 2: Attempt Tennessee Mississippi State. 729 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:45,320 Speaker 1: Yes, forty one thirty four. What do you hope exists 730 00:35:45,440 --> 00:35:47,560 Speaker 1: on the tape when you watch it? I just want 731 00:35:47,560 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: to watch Mississippi State. Yeah, this is tight. Yeah. I 732 00:35:51,160 --> 00:35:52,479 Speaker 1: did not see this one coming either. 733 00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 2: Okay, and Mississippi State is very quietly one of the 734 00:35:57,360 --> 00:35:58,879 Speaker 2: better stories in college football right now. 735 00:35:59,560 --> 00:35:59,960 Speaker 1: Definitely. 736 00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 2: They had an over under three and a half before 737 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,479 Speaker 2: the start of the year, and they have fought tooth 738 00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:08,359 Speaker 2: and nail pretty much every week, whistle to whistle. They 739 00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:11,319 Speaker 2: have been a really hard out sure, and they look 740 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:12,880 Speaker 2: like night and day compared to where they were a 741 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:16,799 Speaker 2: year ago. Yeah, they weren't out until tonight, So I mean, 742 00:36:16,920 --> 00:36:19,719 Speaker 2: I'm pretty I'm pretty thrilled to go back and watch 743 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:23,919 Speaker 2: the tape on this one, just because it doesn't seem 744 00:36:24,080 --> 00:36:28,080 Speaker 2: like it was just kind of a fluky situation from Afar. 745 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:29,200 Speaker 1: Sure from what. 746 00:36:29,200 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 2: I've been able to glean in like a half hour 747 00:36:31,560 --> 00:36:34,800 Speaker 2: walk after the game, but it seems like their defense 748 00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:37,759 Speaker 2: actually played like relatively well, despite the fact that they 749 00:36:37,800 --> 00:36:41,120 Speaker 2: gave up, you know, points against Tennessee forty one points. 750 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,600 Speaker 1: But I see Joey Aguilar had a couple of picks. 751 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:46,399 Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean it seems like the defense, which 752 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:48,839 Speaker 2: was a huge achilles heel for Mississippi State last year, 753 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:51,279 Speaker 2: it seems like that defense stepped up in a big way. Yes, 754 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:53,680 Speaker 2: So I'm curious to see what definitely find out a 755 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:57,680 Speaker 2: little bit more out of there. The other games here 756 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:00,600 Speaker 2: that I'm down on my note sheet are two in 757 00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:05,120 Speaker 2: the Big ten. Yeah, Ohio State, Washington, Indiana, Iowa. 758 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 1: I know it was a sloppy start for both of 759 00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,560 Speaker 1: these teams, Washington and Ohio State, and they were eventually 760 00:37:11,600 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: able to get going. I don't believe the six from 761 00:37:14,440 --> 00:37:17,560 Speaker 1: Washington came from a touchdown. I think it was two 762 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,040 Speaker 1: field goals. So Washington was fully held out of the 763 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:24,480 Speaker 1: end zone in their own stadium against America's number one 764 00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: team at the moment. That's just what happened. I don't know, 765 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happened there. I'm curiously how Julian's 766 00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:34,319 Speaker 1: saying hand on. I think it was very accurate, it 767 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:36,680 Speaker 1: seems how he handled that sort of the energy in 768 00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,359 Speaker 1: that stadium, because that can be a very tough place 769 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:42,959 Speaker 1: to play. What was the other game you said, you said, Washington, Washington. 770 00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:45,760 Speaker 2: And the Indiana Iowa game, Yes, which was very close 771 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,680 Speaker 2: for a while, and Indiana is in this weird kind 772 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 2: of let down look ahead ish situation, right, and yeah, 773 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:56,839 Speaker 2: the fact that they had their hands full with the 774 00:37:57,040 --> 00:38:00,560 Speaker 2: Iowa defense, I guess, and they were down fairly late 775 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:03,360 Speaker 2: in this game is something that we definitely need to 776 00:38:03,360 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 2: go back and take a look at. 777 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 1: Now. 778 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 2: I think it's probably more of a letdown effect, but 779 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:08,799 Speaker 2: I also think it's a little bit more meaningful on 780 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,600 Speaker 2: the Indiana side, because that's one of the things we 781 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:12,440 Speaker 2: like about Indiana. 782 00:38:12,680 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: Right. 783 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,240 Speaker 2: We don't usually, well, they shouldn't say we don't usually. 784 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,279 Speaker 2: We haven't over the last year and a half seen 785 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 2: much of that from Indiana, right, because they seem to 786 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 2: have that killer instinct every time they go out there. 787 00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 2: The fact that they had this little bit of a 788 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:28,239 Speaker 2: hiccup now on the road against Iowa. Maybe shouldn't surprise us. 789 00:38:28,520 --> 00:38:30,439 Speaker 2: It is on the road, It isn't the Big ten. 790 00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:33,080 Speaker 2: It is a good defense, but I just thought for 791 00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:34,560 Speaker 2: sure they would come out guns of blaze. And I 792 00:38:34,600 --> 00:38:36,520 Speaker 2: don't think Fernana Mendoza looked all that great for a 793 00:38:36,560 --> 00:38:39,640 Speaker 2: chunk of this game. Okay, So like we need to 794 00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 2: go back and get a better understanding for where Indiana 795 00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:43,680 Speaker 2: is at before they start playing it. 796 00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:46,319 Speaker 1: It's also just tough if Iowa's defense is at least 797 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:49,600 Speaker 1: pretty good, if not good, you're still talking about going 798 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,280 Speaker 1: to Iowa City and beating a team with a good defense, 799 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:55,440 Speaker 1: as that team is an underdog, which the reality of 800 00:38:55,480 --> 00:38:59,000 Speaker 1: the situation, So we shouldn't be terribly surprised that Iowa 801 00:38:59,080 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: turned a game at home defensively. That seems like the 802 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,480 Speaker 1: most normal thing that could have happened. 803 00:39:04,760 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 2: Are there any other games on your radar or any 804 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:09,960 Speaker 2: other things on your radar that you're interested in knowing 805 00:39:09,960 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 2: a little bit more about here? Just based on again, 806 00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,080 Speaker 2: these are snap judgments, not having watched many of these games. 807 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,000 Speaker 2: By the way, if you are watching this live, I 808 00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:21,080 Speaker 2: would encourage you to drop something in the chat. Let 809 00:39:21,160 --> 00:39:24,680 Speaker 2: us know, maybe the most impressive thing you saw today, 810 00:39:25,320 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 2: maybe the most interesting thing that we need to go 811 00:39:28,320 --> 00:39:30,359 Speaker 2: back and watch throughout the course of the day. Yep, 812 00:39:30,520 --> 00:39:33,440 Speaker 2: a snap judgment, perhaps of your own. We'll get to 813 00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:35,200 Speaker 2: those a little bit later on the show. I'm really 814 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:36,680 Speaker 2: curious to hear what people had to say. 815 00:39:37,160 --> 00:39:39,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, I haven't watched much of I watched the first 816 00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:45,000 Speaker 1: half of ASU TCU so Florida State, Virginia. We did 817 00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,840 Speaker 1: watch Virginia. We did watch what the hell man? Some 818 00:39:49,960 --> 00:39:54,160 Speaker 1: early Florida State mistakes, the tepovers and Virginia taking advantage. 819 00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:57,920 Speaker 1: Florida State coming back, Thomas Castellano's looking good and then 820 00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:01,360 Speaker 1: not so good and then go in overtime? Does Chandler 821 00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:05,160 Speaker 1: Morris have a hand injury? Doing everything himself? All of 822 00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:07,520 Speaker 1: the good stuff and bad stuff kind of came down 823 00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,360 Speaker 1: to Chandler Morris making plays and of course getting the 824 00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:15,040 Speaker 1: game sealing interception in double overtime? Was it? And the 825 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: hoo fans rushing the field that by the way, Yeah, 826 00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:21,719 Speaker 1: we hope everybody is safe. Yeah, okay, we don't want 827 00:40:21,719 --> 00:40:23,200 Speaker 1: toybody to get a bonker scene. 828 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,560 Speaker 2: But I can't ever remember a field rush that happened 829 00:40:27,600 --> 00:40:30,040 Speaker 2: like two milliseconds after the game ended. They were in 830 00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,120 Speaker 2: the end zone, they were still in the end zone, 831 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:35,520 Speaker 2: and suddenly the entire stadium had emptied out onto the field. 832 00:40:35,560 --> 00:40:36,640 Speaker 1: So I hope everybody's all right. 833 00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 2: I did not have a chance to read and look 834 00:40:38,960 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: and see if anything came of that, so I reserved 835 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 2: the right to revise these statements at some point, but alas, 836 00:40:45,760 --> 00:40:48,280 Speaker 2: at least the visual of that was pretty wild. 837 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: I I didn't have the courage to take Virginia outright, 838 00:40:52,239 --> 00:40:55,160 Speaker 1: I believe. But I did take Virginia there because it 839 00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,279 Speaker 1: was a good thing to me into it, and I 840 00:40:57,320 --> 00:40:59,319 Speaker 1: talked you into it. But I don't think we had 841 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 1: either one of us had the courage to take Virginia. 842 00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:03,640 Speaker 1: And Virginia pulls it out the who's doing it? And 843 00:41:04,040 --> 00:41:06,399 Speaker 1: I don't know. It was just Virginia has been playing well, 844 00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,440 Speaker 1: especially on offense, and Miami is on deck for Florida 845 00:41:10,440 --> 00:41:13,120 Speaker 1: State and it's short week going on the road. It's 846 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:16,000 Speaker 1: just a tough spot. I don't think terribly less of 847 00:41:16,040 --> 00:41:17,759 Speaker 1: Florida State, to be honest, I want to watch this 848 00:41:17,840 --> 00:41:21,120 Speaker 1: game again because I still think they can win a 849 00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: ton of games. And be a playoff ish team. So 850 00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:28,600 Speaker 1: good for Virginia. It's been a slog for Tony Elliott. 851 00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:33,560 Speaker 1: There some absolute like obsolute, some absolute lows from like 852 00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 1: a pure life perspective with the tragedies at Virginia, and 853 00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,880 Speaker 1: then some highs early this season where it looks like 854 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:42,759 Speaker 1: they were turning things around, where they're definitely turning things 855 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:45,839 Speaker 1: around via the portal, via some new energy in Charlottesville 856 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 1: and so a really good story in the ACC and 857 00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:53,719 Speaker 1: nationally definitely fits Virginia's situation. 858 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:57,080 Speaker 2: So Virginia in conference is undefeated. They did lose to 859 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,840 Speaker 2: NC State, but because of scheduling Quirks, that was not 860 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,200 Speaker 2: a conference game. Ratuno in conference right now, they're tied 861 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:05,279 Speaker 2: at the top of the conference with Georgia Tech whether 862 00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:08,359 Speaker 2: hands full with Wake and also Duke had to come 863 00:42:08,400 --> 00:42:10,479 Speaker 2: back and beat Wake, had to come back and beat 864 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 2: Wake for sure, but one of the more interesting I 865 00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 2: think quirks now moving forward for Virginia, this is their 866 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:17,840 Speaker 2: remaining schedule. 867 00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:19,680 Speaker 1: Okay, I'm ready at. 868 00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:26,920 Speaker 2: Louisville, tough home against Wazoo, winnable at North Carolina, winnable 869 00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:28,400 Speaker 2: at Cal. 870 00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,719 Speaker 1: Tough because it's your going to the hinterlands of the 871 00:42:31,719 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: Bay Area, across the country, but not a bulletproof team 872 00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:40,680 Speaker 1: home against Wake Forest. I would say tough, but not impossible. 873 00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:41,279 Speaker 1: It's a tough out. 874 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,080 Speaker 2: There's gonna be a tough out on the road to Duke, 875 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: that'll be a tougher game. 876 00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:48,320 Speaker 1: Duke had a nice story today. Obviously, no Steve Vangeli 877 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,759 Speaker 1: for Syracuse, but Duke blew out Syracuse on the road. 878 00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:53,280 Speaker 1: So that hopefully is a turnaround moment for the Blue Devil. 879 00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:55,360 Speaker 2: And then they close out the Commonwealth Cup at home 880 00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:56,919 Speaker 2: this year against Virginia Tech. 881 00:42:56,960 --> 00:42:59,520 Speaker 1: Winnable. Everything's on the table for Virginia So. 882 00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 2: It's kind of that we're talking about the who's but 883 00:43:02,160 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 2: more power to them. Yeah, you know that was a 884 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 2: pretty big win at home Friday night lights in overtime 885 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:09,759 Speaker 2: against Florida State. 886 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,839 Speaker 1: Yeah. By the way, Virginia Tech also just beat NC State, 887 00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,279 Speaker 1: who beat Virginia Right, good for Virginia Tech. Ucla put 888 00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,040 Speaker 1: up a fight against Northwestern If I'm reading this all 889 00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,520 Speaker 1: correct's right, that's right. After falling down fourteen seventeen nothing 890 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 1: whatever it was. So yeah, you can't be sure of 891 00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:29,880 Speaker 1: anything in this moment other than Dan Landing should be 892 00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:33,799 Speaker 1: running deer Hill Moore. That's it all right. So here's 893 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:34,160 Speaker 1: the deal. 894 00:43:34,480 --> 00:43:36,719 Speaker 2: You are watching live, keep the comments coming. We're gonna 895 00:43:36,719 --> 00:43:38,319 Speaker 2: pop some of those up on the screen. We also 896 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 2: got some Stanford came back beat San Jose State cool. 897 00:43:42,320 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 2: We also got some thanks that we got to give 898 00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:45,879 Speaker 2: out to the community, some of the folks that helped 899 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 2: make this weekend possible for Dan and I. Yes, we 900 00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:54,480 Speaker 2: can't let that go a minute longer, but big thanks 901 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,560 Speaker 2: to Shay who is back now in the saddle back 902 00:43:57,600 --> 00:44:02,479 Speaker 2: from his trip to park It's unknown, and he cut 903 00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:06,000 Speaker 2: together one of the best reverb segments I've heard in front. 904 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 1: Oh it's really good. 905 00:44:07,600 --> 00:44:11,200 Speaker 2: So, without further ado, profs to sche for doing this 906 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,200 Speaker 2: for us, here are your week five reverbs. 907 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,520 Speaker 4: Have listen, the game of the weekend is not Bama 908 00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:18,800 Speaker 4: Georgia like we all thought. 909 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:22,160 Speaker 5: It happened early on Friday night. And let me tell 910 00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:24,920 Speaker 5: you something. Plus six and a half, y'all down of 911 00:44:24,920 --> 00:44:25,360 Speaker 5: the line. 912 00:44:26,000 --> 00:44:28,560 Speaker 6: Let's go Whaho's whoa baby? 913 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:31,080 Speaker 3: What's up? 914 00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:32,160 Speaker 6: It's Willom, Minnesota. 915 00:44:32,320 --> 00:44:34,040 Speaker 4: This is Andrew from New Jersey. 916 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:34,560 Speaker 3: What's up? 917 00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:36,960 Speaker 4: This is Danson Sokow. Are we sure? 918 00:44:37,360 --> 00:44:39,440 Speaker 3: Alice scrinched up? Fired two years ago. 919 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,920 Speaker 4: Because that defense looked soft this morning. Lincoln Riley is 920 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:46,879 Speaker 4: the biggest fraud since the US Ryder Cup team. 921 00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:50,480 Speaker 1: Yeah, Notre Dame's defense is really bad, but you know 922 00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:51,120 Speaker 1: who's worse? 923 00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:52,280 Speaker 4: Ark and Stuff. 924 00:44:52,719 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: Hope you brought Amazon boxes to work today, Sam, you 925 00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:56,399 Speaker 1: might need them. 926 00:44:56,560 --> 00:45:01,560 Speaker 4: Go Irish dan Ty Arkansas outr outright. 927 00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: Boat Race. 928 00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 4: Took my seven year old to this first college football 929 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,640 Speaker 4: game today for Notre Dame at Arkansas. He thought it 930 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 4: was a little bit as loud at first, but I said, 931 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,040 Speaker 4: don't worry, it's gonna be quieter in the second half. 932 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 1: Guys to see from Atlanta, Georgia can calling about five 933 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:17,799 Speaker 1: Windiana small cook, you got them? 934 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:18,680 Speaker 3: Coach tig wins again. 935 00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,360 Speaker 1: What was watching the Louisville game like like having the 936 00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:23,920 Speaker 1: worst brain freeze ever? 937 00:45:24,320 --> 00:45:25,240 Speaker 6: All of a sudden, it's. 938 00:45:25,120 --> 00:45:31,800 Speaker 7: Like that, Oh, it's great, we just went Most goals 939 00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,800 Speaker 7: in the higher head coach are usually looking for somebody 940 00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 7: who's gonna win a new way, not awake for it. 941 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 4: We're gonna find a coach can lose a new way. 942 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:40,440 Speaker 4: He freezeems about the kind. 943 00:45:40,280 --> 00:45:42,160 Speaker 2: Of guy who had asked chat GPT if. 944 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,200 Speaker 6: I was fifteen on starty and fourth down is a 945 00:45:44,200 --> 00:45:44,600 Speaker 6: good or not. 946 00:45:44,880 --> 00:45:47,279 Speaker 4: Somehow the Aggies won and I did not enjoy a 947 00:45:47,360 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 4: single second of that game. 948 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:50,400 Speaker 1: I can't imagine what it would be like to be 949 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:51,120 Speaker 1: an auberapants. 950 00:45:51,239 --> 00:45:54,680 Speaker 4: The bear does not quit, the bear's not done, and 951 00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:57,799 Speaker 4: the bear these Boston College but. 952 00:45:57,880 --> 00:46:00,360 Speaker 5: Not apparently going to need to say anyway, Roll of 953 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:00,839 Speaker 5: you bear. 954 00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,920 Speaker 6: I'm calling in to let you know in September that 955 00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,440 Speaker 6: Central Michigan is running a triple option and has three 956 00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 6: hundred yards rushing today, so that when you see it 957 00:46:08,920 --> 00:46:12,040 Speaker 6: in November on Midweek in Action, you go, oh, somebody 958 00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,920 Speaker 6: cool told me about this. 959 00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:20,280 Speaker 4: Bekay lost another big game. You suck Colorado State Pizza. 960 00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:23,760 Speaker 4: We are flat, we are cooked, we are getting sliced apart. 961 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:25,840 Speaker 5: I don't know what's going on. Dodds. 962 00:46:26,000 --> 00:46:27,520 Speaker 1: Hey, it's coal from Tuscaloosa. 963 00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:29,520 Speaker 6: And I regret to inform you and the rest of 964 00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:31,640 Speaker 6: the country that is time to put some respect on 965 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:32,759 Speaker 6: ty Simpson's name. 966 00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,279 Speaker 2: Rolltid First and foremost, I would like to thank the 967 00:46:36,360 --> 00:46:38,680 Speaker 2: Penn State groundskeeper for. 968 00:46:38,719 --> 00:46:41,360 Speaker 4: Keeping the grass long enough for us to stave that fumble. 969 00:46:42,239 --> 00:46:45,160 Speaker 5: I am filled with the mostes go up. 970 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:49,400 Speaker 3: For Penn Stater a here, calling from the moral victory department. 971 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,320 Speaker 3: I guess this time we made it till the second 972 00:46:52,320 --> 00:46:56,919 Speaker 3: ot before the latest drew Allers, Gay Lindy interceptions drop. 973 00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:00,279 Speaker 4: It is time to talk to your kids. Out of 974 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,560 Speaker 4: five to no Memphis at time of recording, we don't 975 00:47:03,600 --> 00:47:06,400 Speaker 4: know where college game day might go in week six? 976 00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 4: Might I suggest one of only two matchups of undefeated 977 00:47:10,600 --> 00:47:14,760 Speaker 4: Division one teams and go to Yale at Lehigh. Fire 978 00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:15,600 Speaker 4: up that Drummond. 979 00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:17,840 Speaker 5: Bye, Shay, this is an emergency and I need you 980 00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:20,680 Speaker 5: to good a hold of Tie and tell him that 981 00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 5: he has got to get back on the pit train. 982 00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:28,000 Speaker 5: Thank you for doing what you did. I figured obviously 983 00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,120 Speaker 5: you've got a hold of Tie. Jay, you are the 984 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:36,440 Speaker 5: real hero. I'm going to put out a dood alert 985 00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:45,000 Speaker 5: nomination for Shay. 986 00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:44,120 Speaker 2: While we're waiting for some more comments to roll in here. 987 00:47:45,239 --> 00:47:46,520 Speaker 2: I got a bunch of thanks that I'm going to 988 00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:50,000 Speaker 2: need to give out. Please do all right, First and foremost, Avery, 989 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:55,800 Speaker 2: who has graciously donated his basement to this cause this evening, 990 00:47:57,560 --> 00:47:59,120 Speaker 2: we would not be able to do this. I think 991 00:47:59,120 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 2: it looks awesome. I think like even as is. 992 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:04,520 Speaker 1: We've done way worse. We've done way worse. 993 00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:07,799 Speaker 2: This looks better than every other college football podcast in 994 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:10,719 Speaker 2: like on the Road, on the Road, Yeah, on the 995 00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,719 Speaker 2: Road for sure. Take that everyone, so big, thanks to 996 00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,920 Speaker 2: Avery for making all this possible. I want to give 997 00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:19,560 Speaker 2: a big shout out to Walt and Helen Nur who 998 00:48:19,560 --> 00:48:24,919 Speaker 2: were our heroes in helping us get our tickets get 999 00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 2: into the stadium. That was a bit of an ordeal 1000 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,919 Speaker 2: in the run up to this one. So without them 1001 00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,279 Speaker 2: we wouldn't not be here, We would not have seen 1002 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:38,080 Speaker 2: the game. They made all that possible. I also want 1003 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:40,320 Speaker 2: to give a big shout out to everybody who invited 1004 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:41,880 Speaker 2: us to their tailgates. 1005 00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:42,200 Speaker 1: We had. 1006 00:48:42,239 --> 00:48:44,839 Speaker 2: I have a huge list here Dan of everybody who 1007 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,680 Speaker 2: invited us. If you sent in an email, I did 1008 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,439 Speaker 2: jot it down. We could not make it to all 1009 00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:52,239 Speaker 2: of them. 1010 00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: We just ran out of time and like Wi Fi 1011 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:58,640 Speaker 1: and five G access to like fill everything. Yeah, with 1012 00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:00,680 Speaker 1: one hundred and eleven thousand people, it was. It was 1013 00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:03,439 Speaker 1: a little bit sketchy that once everybody started rolling into town. 1014 00:49:04,120 --> 00:49:09,719 Speaker 1: But shout out to Dave and Ryan and Carl Zach, Kevin, Jake, 1015 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:20,680 Speaker 1: Jeremy Benton, Michael King, John, Charlie, Ryan, Ben Tyler, Andrew, Mike, Dave, 1016 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:23,879 Speaker 1: and Nate, And there are probably about five or six 1017 00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:26,600 Speaker 1: others that I can call out that wanted to meet up. 1018 00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,279 Speaker 2: Maybe it didn't have a tailgate or just in town 1019 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: for the game. If you sent in something, you will 1020 00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:34,360 Speaker 2: be hearing from us, I promise you. Yeah, because we 1021 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:36,279 Speaker 2: got we got some goodies we're gonna send you. But 1022 00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,520 Speaker 2: thank you to everybody who kind of made all this possible. 1023 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:42,239 Speaker 2: It was a ton of fun this weekend, to say 1024 00:49:42,239 --> 00:49:42,680 Speaker 2: the least. 1025 00:49:42,840 --> 00:49:43,440 Speaker 1: I agree. 1026 00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 2: I'm absolutely thrilled that we got a chance to do this. 1027 00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:50,960 Speaker 2: All right, So we got some comments that have rolled 1028 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:51,319 Speaker 2: in here. 1029 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,320 Speaker 1: Dan, okay, hit me while you search for the comments, 1030 00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,040 Speaker 1: shout out San Diego State for a baseball score win 1031 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,720 Speaker 1: of six to three over NIU sixty three to three. 1032 00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: Win however, you can win, win your clunkers, A lot 1033 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,960 Speaker 1: of teams did. Winning six to three should make you 1034 00:50:09,000 --> 00:50:14,799 Speaker 1: feel zero shame because you gotta win. Continue. Psych says that. 1035 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,600 Speaker 2: Trinidad Chambliss might be the best quarterback in the SEC. 1036 00:50:17,920 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 1: WHOA, I don't know, man, there's some good ones. Leonora 1037 00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:25,440 Speaker 1: Sellers plays in the SEC, Diego Pavia plays in the SEC. 1038 00:50:25,880 --> 00:50:30,440 Speaker 1: Whatever Ty Simpson is plays in the SEC. There's a 1039 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:35,000 Speaker 1: Marcel Reid plays in the SEC. But I can't tell 1040 00:50:35,000 --> 00:50:37,480 Speaker 1: you with authority that Trinidad Champlains isn't the best. I 1041 00:50:37,480 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: gotta watch it. It's time to get al Or out 1042 00:50:40,960 --> 00:50:45,840 Speaker 1: of there. I think that's just nature is going to 1043 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:48,640 Speaker 1: run its course. This is his final season, no matter 1044 00:50:48,680 --> 00:50:49,839 Speaker 1: what he tries to do. 1045 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:55,160 Speaker 2: We did have a brief conversation at some point in 1046 00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:00,440 Speaker 2: this game, and we wondered, like, is there an Ethan 1047 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:02,680 Speaker 2: Gronkemeyer conversation the second half? 1048 00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:07,120 Speaker 1: Like he'll like if you'll get like Will Howard did? Yeah, Like, 1049 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:09,799 Speaker 1: thank you for your service. We're going in a new direction. Right, 1050 00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: that's a good question. I mean, I think objectively, Drew 1051 00:51:15,120 --> 00:51:18,640 Speaker 1: Aller is fine. I'm just not a believer in Drew 1052 00:51:18,680 --> 00:51:23,239 Speaker 1: Aller as somebody who has arrived as a top flight quarterback. 1053 00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:24,439 Speaker 1: And same. 1054 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 2: I think the interesting part of this, though, is because 1055 00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:33,319 Speaker 2: of bull Probulah's success. We think at Missoo so far 1056 00:51:33,600 --> 00:51:38,720 Speaker 2: he's been good. So far, sure, but because of Prebulah's success. Now, 1057 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 2: and I was getting messages from people about this during 1058 00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:45,320 Speaker 2: the game, right, you know, a separate friend group talking 1059 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:50,880 Speaker 2: about this. There are some folks who believe that the 1060 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:54,640 Speaker 2: offense we are seeing Penn State run is an offense that. 1061 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 1: Would have been better suited for Prebula. 1062 00:51:56,840 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: Sure, because I understand that a lot of this weird 1063 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: wildcat stuff. I mean, we saw them have the most 1064 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,279 Speaker 2: success later in this game on the ground, right right, 1065 00:52:05,320 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 2: once they kind of realized that they couldn't do whatever 1066 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 2: they were trying to do through the air it wasn't working, 1067 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:11,520 Speaker 2: they they were able to kind of get you know, 1068 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:12,920 Speaker 2: whether it was al or on the move on a 1069 00:52:13,000 --> 00:52:16,600 Speaker 2: quarterback draw, whether it was that sort of misdirection play 1070 00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,360 Speaker 2: that they did down at the goal line. You know, 1071 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:23,680 Speaker 2: they ultimately nice made some nice throws, but it was 1072 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:25,200 Speaker 2: I think what they did in the ground that kind 1073 00:52:25,200 --> 00:52:27,839 Speaker 2: of got them back in this thing. Yes, you can 1074 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,560 Speaker 2: make a pretty strong case that that's more of Pabula's 1075 00:52:30,600 --> 00:52:33,200 Speaker 2: strong suit and that maybe he would be better a 1076 00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,560 Speaker 2: better fit, sure, you know. 1077 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:37,399 Speaker 1: But you can also make a case that Drew Aller 1078 00:52:37,480 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 1: could light up the Kansas defense and the UMass defense 1079 00:52:40,440 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 1: in an identical way that but Bo Prabula has done 1080 00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:43,440 Speaker 1: at Miszoo. 1081 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:48,279 Speaker 2: So we'll see, Okay, some other ones here that what 1082 00:52:48,360 --> 00:52:51,719 Speaker 2: do we have that have come through? Let me, let 1083 00:52:51,719 --> 00:52:56,440 Speaker 2: me pull these up in. Robert gives us a super 1084 00:52:56,520 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 2: chat saying, Illinois, are they back? 1085 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:03,640 Speaker 1: Bro, they just got here. I don't know. I guess. 1086 00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:07,400 Speaker 2: I don't know if Illinois is back back, but I 1087 00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 2: guess after getting beaten by fifty three, let's let's just 1088 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 2: try to feel. 1089 00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,479 Speaker 1: What an Illinois fan would feel here. Well, Illinois back. Yeah, 1090 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:16,719 Speaker 1: they just beat a ranked team. It's been a witch 1091 00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:18,960 Speaker 1: over the last two weeks. Yes, right to lose by 1092 00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:19,760 Speaker 1: fifty three. 1093 00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,880 Speaker 2: On one hand, and then to go out and a 1094 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 2: knock off USC who's definitely more of a traditional blue 1095 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,800 Speaker 2: blood and the team that we started to get excited about. 1096 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: But still has a lot to prove. There's a lot 1097 00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:31,279 Speaker 1: to prove in their own right. 1098 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 2: But yes, in that sense, I would say they're back. 1099 00:53:34,200 --> 00:53:36,239 Speaker 2: In that sense, I would say that they're back now. 1100 00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,680 Speaker 2: Maybe circumstances kind of aided them a little bit, but 1101 00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,200 Speaker 2: still you got to you got to win the game. 1102 00:53:40,520 --> 00:53:41,440 Speaker 1: And I was. 1103 00:53:41,400 --> 00:53:43,919 Speaker 2: Pretty impressed to see that they ended up emerging from 1104 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 2: that one. 1105 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:49,080 Speaker 1: Okay, I would say eighthan Caliacmanus is back in the 1106 00:53:49,120 --> 00:53:49,720 Speaker 1: losing effort. 1107 00:53:49,800 --> 00:53:52,920 Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah, apparently my soundboard's not working, so it's. 1108 00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:57,000 Speaker 1: And I just figured out why. So that's good. I 1109 00:53:57,120 --> 00:53:59,439 Speaker 1: said it. I said, I turn it up on your iPad. Yeah, 1110 00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,359 Speaker 1: that's my well. 1111 00:54:01,400 --> 00:54:03,719 Speaker 2: Game Day going Ahead announced that they'll be in Eugene 1112 00:54:03,760 --> 00:54:05,520 Speaker 2: in a couple of weeks for Indiana. 1113 00:54:05,600 --> 00:54:07,719 Speaker 1: I don't know what other games are happening that week, 1114 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,720 Speaker 1: but it certainly seems attractive. Eugene shows out for game day, Yeah, 1115 00:54:11,800 --> 00:54:12,160 Speaker 1: they do. 1116 00:54:12,239 --> 00:54:14,719 Speaker 2: They do show up for game day. Nick says, is 1117 00:54:14,760 --> 00:54:17,160 Speaker 2: it time to talk to my kids about BYUS? BYU 1118 00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,960 Speaker 2: still losing the Colorado. 1119 00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:21,640 Speaker 1: I think they're up at the moment. BYU is up 1120 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:24,200 Speaker 1: twenty four to twenty one as we are recording this, okay, 1121 00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:25,080 Speaker 1: streaming this live. 1122 00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,640 Speaker 2: I mean, look, it's it's pretty well documented at this 1123 00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 2: point that BYUS that team that I pretty consistently undervalue. Yeah, 1124 00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:35,759 Speaker 2: and I don't know why. I have nothing against BYU, but. 1125 00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:38,879 Speaker 1: Their quarterback's name is literally bear. His name is a bear. 1126 00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:41,279 Speaker 1: He's a literal bear. Yeah, he is a literal bear, 1127 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:42,279 Speaker 1: a literal bear. 1128 00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:45,520 Speaker 2: So there's about eight minutes that they're so left in 1129 00:54:45,560 --> 00:54:46,879 Speaker 2: the fourth quarter right now a time of. 1130 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,960 Speaker 1: Reporting rebup the rankings, Yeah. 1131 00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:52,719 Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty BYU. Yeah, if you want to 1132 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,560 Speaker 2: talk to him. You can, you can absolutely talk to 1133 00:54:55,560 --> 00:54:59,239 Speaker 2: your kids about BYU next But oh it's the same 1134 00:54:59,239 --> 00:55:01,720 Speaker 2: week in as red River that Oregon. 1135 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Indiana game. Yeah, absolutely tough to justify. 1136 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is tough to justify. Nick says 1137 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,400 Speaker 2: alert is back. Okay, so we've got kind of competing 1138 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,200 Speaker 2: sides of this. Thank you for pitching into the effort, Nick, 1139 00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:18,319 Speaker 2: We appreciate the super chat. Great Indiana is one hundred 1140 00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:25,640 Speaker 2: percent legit. So Indiana came out of nowhere last year. 1141 00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:30,879 Speaker 2: HM makes the playoffs this year, throttle Illinois on the road. 1142 00:55:31,880 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 2: A week later, they go to Iowa. They have a 1143 00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:36,439 Speaker 2: little bit of trouble, Maybe don't show the same amount 1144 00:55:36,480 --> 00:55:40,000 Speaker 2: of killer instinct. But I think it's hard to argue 1145 00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:42,239 Speaker 2: at this point that Indiana isn't going to be part 1146 00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 2: of this conversation second half the season at worst, right 1147 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:50,240 Speaker 2: because based on what we're seeing, what they've done on offense, 1148 00:55:50,280 --> 00:55:53,920 Speaker 2: what they've done of defense, seems to me like they're better. Yeah, 1149 00:55:54,040 --> 00:55:55,799 Speaker 2: it seems to be like it's a better version. 1150 00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: Of what we saw a year ago. Maybe seems at 1151 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:01,080 Speaker 1: this point, Yeah, it's seems at this point, right, they 1152 00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,640 Speaker 1: were good enough to blow you can say. 1153 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:04,560 Speaker 2: This about everything we don't know. Of course, we don't 1154 00:56:04,560 --> 00:56:07,080 Speaker 2: know it's peak five, but based on what we know 1155 00:56:07,160 --> 00:56:10,439 Speaker 2: so far, it seems to me that they're a better 1156 00:56:10,560 --> 00:56:13,200 Speaker 2: version of what we've seen before, and that's pretty exciting. 1157 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,520 Speaker 1: Well, if Fernando Mendoza is healthy, then he is a 1158 00:56:15,520 --> 00:56:17,799 Speaker 1: better version of Curtis Ark, because Curtis Ark just wasn't 1159 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:20,680 Speaker 1: healthy last year. I think Fernando Mendez's ceiling is higher, yes, 1160 00:56:20,719 --> 00:56:24,560 Speaker 1: so that that just automatically means that Indiana is likely 1161 00:56:24,600 --> 00:56:27,959 Speaker 1: going to be better with a better quarterback. Here's one. 1162 00:56:28,600 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 2: Louisville pulled out a wacky game against Pitt or the 1163 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:34,719 Speaker 2: ACA contenders. I think the ACC is wide open. I 1164 00:56:34,719 --> 00:56:37,560 Speaker 2: think I think it's Miami up here, and I think 1165 00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,440 Speaker 2: everybody else is beatable. I think we saw that with 1166 00:56:40,480 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 2: Florida State going down. 1167 00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,080 Speaker 1: I know that with Georgia Tech almost going down. 1168 00:56:44,120 --> 00:56:47,440 Speaker 2: So that with Georgia Tech almost going down, I think 1169 00:56:47,480 --> 00:56:50,839 Speaker 2: there is a lot of variability below that top team, 1170 00:56:51,600 --> 00:56:54,080 Speaker 2: and I honestly don't know what to expect. So I 1171 00:56:54,080 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 2: would want I would not want to write off Louisville. 1172 00:56:56,600 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 2: Louisville went on the road, Louisville got a tough win, 1173 00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:04,160 Speaker 2: and it was Miller Moss getting a close win in 1174 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 2: crunch time for a different team. 1175 00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: Not USC. 1176 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:08,560 Speaker 2: If it would have been USC, maybe it would have 1177 00:57:08,600 --> 00:57:09,480 Speaker 2: gone a different direction. 1178 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 1: But and by the way, your team that's up here 1179 00:57:11,719 --> 00:57:13,680 Speaker 1: in Miami is going to Tallahassee to play a night 1180 00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:14,399 Speaker 1: game next week. 1181 00:57:14,680 --> 00:57:21,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, crazy, all right, last one here, Dan, Please? What 1182 00:57:21,360 --> 00:57:26,760 Speaker 2: stimulants is Dan Lanning consuming? Excuse me, don't. 1183 00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:29,840 Speaker 1: Die, I'm I'm the stimulants. I'm consuming, Dan Rubinstein, not 1184 00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:34,200 Speaker 1: Dan Lanning is floonaise? Is that that stimulates thinning out 1185 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:38,760 Speaker 1: of whatever's going on in my passageways. Dan Lanning is 1186 00:57:39,400 --> 00:57:44,440 Speaker 1: just high on football electricity and maybe smelling salts and 1187 00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: be twelve ingestions at opportune moments. I don't know. I 1188 00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 1: haven't watched his real I saw that he hugged Dante 1189 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:51,800 Speaker 1: More after the game. It was very emotional. But I 1190 00:57:51,800 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: haven't seen any press conferences or any clips. I'm sure 1191 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:58,000 Speaker 1: there's they're referring to. This person is referring to a 1192 00:57:58,040 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: clip of Dan Lanning losing his mind, which. 1193 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,640 Speaker 2: Tracks he wears it all on his sleep. It's great, 1194 00:58:03,920 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 2: it does. Yeah, I mean he's a psycho. Yeah, I 1195 00:58:06,800 --> 00:58:08,360 Speaker 2: think you have to be a psycho in this day 1196 00:58:08,360 --> 00:58:10,240 Speaker 2: and age should be pretty good college football, so maybe 1197 00:58:10,600 --> 00:58:12,640 Speaker 2: it definitely fits that bill. 1198 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,080 Speaker 1: Thank you everybody who has joined us here to watch this. 1199 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,680 Speaker 2: So Dan and I are gonna put together a plan 1200 00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:20,680 Speaker 2: to figure out the best way to cover the games 1201 00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 2: that we did not have a chance to watch throughout 1202 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 2: the course. 1203 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:24,520 Speaker 1: We need to figure out a plan to get me 1204 00:58:24,600 --> 00:58:28,160 Speaker 1: back to the suburbs of Chicago. I have a flight 1205 00:58:28,240 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: in like eleven hours. We're working a lot of this 1206 00:58:30,520 --> 00:58:32,400 Speaker 1: through on the flag. We're a solid three and a 1207 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:34,640 Speaker 1: half hours away from the airport I need to get to. 1208 00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:37,720 Speaker 2: We're working our way through this. It's step by step, 1209 00:58:38,120 --> 00:58:40,960 Speaker 2: so give us a little bit of grace as we 1210 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:42,440 Speaker 2: feel our way through this. 1211 00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: We didn't eat dinner. I'm now just realizing and it's 1212 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:50,040 Speaker 1: one twelve am on time. All right. 1213 00:58:50,920 --> 00:58:54,240 Speaker 2: Well, on that note, thank you everybody who tuned in. Yes, 1214 00:58:54,800 --> 00:58:57,000 Speaker 2: if you want to hear the version of the reverbs 1215 00:58:57,000 --> 00:59:00,520 Speaker 2: that Shay so graciously put to you wearing pants, Sorry 1216 00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:03,439 Speaker 2: he is I can't confirm you. Yeah, please do listen 1217 00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:07,040 Speaker 2: to the audio version. You guys at an awesome job 1218 00:59:07,120 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 2: calling in leaving us your thoughts. 1219 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:12,800 Speaker 1: A FI five. Verbal three again is the phone number. 1220 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 2: Verbalers dot com is where you can go if you 1221 00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 2: want to vote in the Verballer Top twelve poll that's 1222 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 2: going to drop bright and early again. Everybody a free, 1223 00:59:20,680 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 2: A certified, a premium. Everybody's going to get access to 1224 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:25,800 Speaker 2: it this week. I want to get everybody's thoughts. 1225 00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:28,000 Speaker 1: FLOWNE is not a sponsor, could be not a sponsor, 1226 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:28,320 Speaker 1: could be. 1227 00:59:28,520 --> 00:59:31,120 Speaker 2: So for that guy over there, my good friend Dan Rubinstein, 1228 00:59:31,160 --> 00:59:33,720 Speaker 2: for myself, Ty Hildebrand, thanks for hanging with us here. 1229 00:59:34,080 --> 00:59:35,680 Speaker 2: A bit of a different show, a bit of a 1230 00:59:35,720 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 2: different look, bit of a different feel, but always good 1231 00:59:38,320 --> 00:59:40,560 Speaker 2: to be with you out there in the verballerhood. We 1232 00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:42,320 Speaker 2: will talk to you all very soon. Stay tuned to 1233 00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,720 Speaker 2: our social media feeds, stay tuned too, pretty much everywhere 1234 00:59:45,760 --> 00:59:48,040 Speaker 2: you can find us, because a little bit of a 1235 00:59:48,040 --> 00:59:51,000 Speaker 2: different schedule being so we're doing this today, so more 1236 00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 2: to come on that front, but in the meantime, thank 1237 00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:56,760 Speaker 2: you again for tuning in, and have yourselves a good night.