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Speaker 1: Hey, everyone, welcome back to that You're Happy Hour. I'm

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Speaker 1: Joe and I'm Serena, and we have heard from so

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Speaker 1: many of you guys all dming us about you want

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Speaker 1: to hear more stories from the guys that were on

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Speaker 1: Jones season of The Golden Bachelorette. Well you're in luck

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Speaker 1: because we are here with the mini series called His Story.

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Speaker 1: We did this with the women from the Golden Bachelor.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna have a bunch of guys on just talk

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Speaker 1: to them about their experience on the show, what they

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Speaker 1: got going on.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I know there's been rumors that some men from Jones

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Speaker 1: season are potentially dating some women from Gary season, So

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Speaker 1: we'll get all into that and we hope you guys

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Speaker 1: enjoy it. Let's get into it.

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Speaker 3: Let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, we are here with Jordan from the Jones season

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Speaker 1: of The Golden Bachelorette. Jordan, welcome to Bachelor Happy Hour.

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Speaker 4: Well, thanks for having me. Glad to be here.

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Speaker 3: I can't believe this is your first time here, considering

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Speaker 3: you made it to hometowns and we haven't had the

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Speaker 3: chance to chat with you yet.

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Speaker 5: Yes, well that's why I'm glad we finally did it.

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Speaker 5: Let's let's get to it all right.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, me too, because all season I was I

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Speaker 1: was watching you.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, no, oh, season, like literally since when the

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Speaker 3: headshots got released.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like I know this, I know this right.

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Speaker 1: So I'm going back and forth. I'm like, I don't

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Speaker 1: I feel like he may have worked at the Murk.

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Speaker 3: And I was really really good with faces. And then

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Speaker 3: I'm like, it's weird that he couldn't like place it.

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Speaker 1: So then I'm like, but maybe, I'm he probably just

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Speaker 1: works out at East Bank Club and I've seen him there.

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Speaker 1: And then when it was your hometown, I saw your

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Speaker 1: brother and I was like, okay then and then so

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Speaker 1: then I called I called up my cousin Louis, and

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Speaker 1: he's on the Golden He's on the Golden Bachelor, Golden

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Speaker 3: I was like, oh, yeah, I can't believe that didn't

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Speaker 1: I know. So, Jordan, you used to work used to

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Speaker 1: work in the euro dollars, right.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, So I was in the Euros for a long

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Speaker 5: time and then you know, I worked with your cousins,

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Speaker 5: you know, for fifteen years and actually Lou actually worked

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Speaker 5: also an interesting story to begin with. But you mentioned

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Speaker 5: it when when the when the cast came out. You're like,

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Speaker 5: crossed paths, and because not just that. You know, I

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Speaker 5: go to parlor and I see my girls with my girls,

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Speaker 5: and we saw you at parlor, and my girls were

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Speaker 5: you're like, I have seen me, but you've definitely seen

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's so funny. Oh my gosh, small city. I

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Speaker 5: I think it's big, but it really isn't that. You know,

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Speaker 5: if you're downtown, especially, it's not that big.

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Speaker 1: Do you remember when I was working for Lloyd? Do

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Speaker 1: I traded in the so I traded in the Nasdaq.

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Speaker 3: What's in the euros like euro dollars dollar?

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Speaker 4: I went down to the Nastak and spooze.

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Speaker 3: But like the fact that it was just crazy. We're

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Speaker 5: Two of my three brothers were there too, so we

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Speaker 4: You see a lot of the same guys. We all

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a family, a family workplace.

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Speaker 1: What was jumping a little ahead. Where was that rainbow cake?

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Speaker 1: What is this cake?

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Speaker 5: When you come back, you have to get it. It's

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Speaker 5: it's got us in the baker, got us in the gross.

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Speaker 5: I'm a big cake lover and I try it wherever

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Speaker 5: I go. And that rainbow cake if you like that style,

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Speaker 4: Or whiting House absolutely final best there is. I've tried

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Speaker 1: So have you had the cake? Have you had the cake?

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Speaker 1: Toasted coconut cake at Polo Bar?

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Speaker 4: No? Well, schedule now it's on the schedule for this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it all right. So Jordan, how did

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Speaker 4: So my youngest daughter signed me up. So this was

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Speaker 5: And then finally I said to my girls, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, so you look good. You few on the

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Speaker 1: What does golden mean to you? Like when you heard

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Speaker 5: next phase. Golden years is another twenty years away.

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Speaker 5: It's just it's just really a mentality you have to

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Speaker 5: I still play a lot of sports with mostly you know,

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Speaker 5: I'm with my dog every day. We take long walks,

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Speaker 5: The Chicago lake Front is amazing, so I take full

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Speaker 5: I was in sort of a days the limo exit.

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Speaker 5: That that that nervousness of that really took my breath away.

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Speaker 5: So I was really nervous. My heart was racing. I

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Speaker 4: I got out of the limo.

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Speaker 4: But once I got out of the limo.

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Speaker 5: You know, my heart was racing hard, and I couldn't

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Speaker 4: What I know.

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Speaker 5: I think I said to her, like you took my

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Speaker 5: this moment that was, and no one will ever forget.

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Speaker 5: It's on TV forever in the reruns and streaming. But

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Speaker 4: It always I done.

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Speaker 1: Same thing for myself. I was like, this is going

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Speaker 1: Yeah what did she What did she say? What she

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Speaker 5: And kind of the crowd knew because I was I

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Speaker 3: Have to be like, hey, remember that time that we

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Speaker 5: Crazy circumstances were so crazy that she had to remembers.

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Speaker 4: So this, you know, that separation.

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Speaker 5: We h We laughed a lot, there were a few tears,

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Speaker 1: Did you think after that day, did you think you

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Speaker 5: I mean, some of these guys, you know, near near

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Speaker 5: We talked about that we needed more time. I you know,

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Speaker 5: These guys were rushing to the finish line, and I

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Speaker 4: For certainly as possible.

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Speaker 5: You know, it's really such a condensed courtship that you

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Speaker 3: hanging out with someone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, are you dating Leslie?

443
00:18:50,000 --> 00:18:50,560
Speaker 7: So no, not.

444
00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:56,119
Speaker 5: Differently, we met at the tell all. Right after the

445
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,600
Speaker 5: tell all, my friend had he's the president of l

446
00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,359
Speaker 5: A FC soccer club, and he gave me a sweet

447
00:19:01,359 --> 00:19:03,280
Speaker 5: and I offered it to any of the bachelor people

448
00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,120
Speaker 5: who are going to be around. We had this really

449
00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,960
Speaker 5: nice sweet and Leslie was there with the friends. So

450
00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:10,320
Speaker 5: a couple of bachelors came, and then Lesley came, and

451
00:19:10,359 --> 00:19:12,879
Speaker 5: then at some point, at some point we took a

452
00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:16,040
Speaker 5: selfie and she that kind of blew up the patch

453
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:17,040
Speaker 5: of the world for a little bit.

454
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Speaker 4: No, she's great. We talk a lot.

455
00:19:18,800 --> 00:19:21,880
Speaker 5: I think Leslie's amazing, but I wouldn't you know, we're

456
00:19:21,880 --> 00:19:23,200
Speaker 5: mostly just good friends.

457
00:19:23,400 --> 00:19:25,280
Speaker 1: Right, not boyfriend girlfriend type.

458
00:19:26,960 --> 00:19:30,200
Speaker 3: So then would you do something like Bachelor in Paradise?

459
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:31,040
Speaker 1: Oh?

460
00:19:31,119 --> 00:19:33,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, I would love it. First, I love the beaches.

461
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 5: I mean I always was like, that's the best you know,

462
00:19:35,680 --> 00:19:39,040
Speaker 5: venue get on the beach and you're cocktailing more you

463
00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:41,720
Speaker 5: get there's more people to obviously interact with, and we're

464
00:19:41,720 --> 00:19:44,440
Speaker 5: all we're not fighting for the same person either, six,

465
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Speaker 5: So I think it'd be fantastic.

466
00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:46,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

467
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say, as much as the filming

468
00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:52,880
Speaker 3: time is much shorter and condensed for Paradise, you get

469
00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:55,679
Speaker 3: significantly more time with the person that you're interested in,

470
00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:56,720
Speaker 3: like way more time.

471
00:19:57,600 --> 00:19:57,800
Speaker 4: Yeah.

472
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Speaker 5: I don't think people realize how little time you at,

473
00:20:00,480 --> 00:20:02,800
Speaker 5: you know, in the regular Bachelor Bachelorette season, there's just

474
00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,920
Speaker 5: not a lot of time to kind of break those

475
00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:05,600
Speaker 5: barriers down.

476
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Speaker 1: Did you enjoy going on the show like being oh yeah,

477
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Speaker 1: did you think you would? Though? Did you have any

478
00:20:13,280 --> 00:20:14,119
Speaker 1: hesitation service?

479
00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:14,479
Speaker 6: You know?

480
00:20:14,520 --> 00:20:16,919
Speaker 5: I was even up until I really signed it, like

481
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,000
Speaker 5: the week before, I was like, I don't know if

482
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Speaker 5: I want to expose my life like this, I don't know,

483
00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:24,879
Speaker 5: you know, I thought the downside might outweigh the upside,

484
00:20:25,359 --> 00:20:27,639
Speaker 5: But no, after the fact, we uh, you know, had

485
00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:29,320
Speaker 5: this great relationship with the guys.

486
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Speaker 4: It's exposure.

487
00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:34,680
Speaker 5: You know, I'm like fifteen minute famous in Chicago, walker

488
00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:35,679
Speaker 5: on the streets, you know.

489
00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,520
Speaker 4: So when you come back, well, the three of us

490
00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,800
Speaker 4: will be you know, fift Yeah, for sure, I know

491
00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:43,159
Speaker 4: it's forever.

492
00:20:44,800 --> 00:20:45,680
Speaker 3: This year for sure.

493
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,760
Speaker 1: Actually we were there in March. Yeah, yeah, we were

494
00:20:48,760 --> 00:20:50,800
Speaker 1: there in March. Yeah, but that's because you guys were

495
00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:51,840
Speaker 1: there and I met you there.

496
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Speaker 7: Yeah.

497
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: I think I think I'm trying to think. Where did

498
00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:57,400
Speaker 1: we go? We didn't really go. We were just back

499
00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:01,560
Speaker 1: for Thanksgiving. We didn't really go anywhere out well, Guilt Bar, Yeah.

500
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:02,879
Speaker 4: Okay, Gilt that's a great spot.

501
00:21:04,480 --> 00:21:07,560
Speaker 5: Pascal and I and went to uh the Vest when

502
00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:10,120
Speaker 5: a couple of weeks ago we were you know, it's

503
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,440
Speaker 5: fun to be treated like a celebrity one but we're

504
00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,399
Speaker 5: at the peak of our you know, popularity, so.

505
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:15,080
Speaker 4: It was really fun.

506
00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:17,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, we'll all go out over Christmas.

507
00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:19,440
Speaker 1: How was hanging out with Pascal?

508
00:21:20,520 --> 00:21:23,720
Speaker 5: He's great, he's you know, he's amazing. He's unfiltered like

509
00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:27,760
Speaker 5: he is. He knows the city well, and we have

510
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:29,400
Speaker 5: a good time. We have We have a really good

511
00:21:29,400 --> 00:21:29,840
Speaker 5: time together.

512
00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:33,320
Speaker 1: What before we let you go. What are your what

513
00:21:33,359 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: were your thoughts on the finale?

514
00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:39,359
Speaker 5: Well, you know, clearly, like I thought she had a

515
00:21:39,359 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 5: connection with Chalk early on. You know, it was apparent

516
00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:45,200
Speaker 5: to me that they had something. We all were fighting

517
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 5: for that, but they seem to have something extra, and

518
00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:51,200
Speaker 5: I thought, you know, guy handled it well. I think

519
00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:53,760
Speaker 5: he probably really was in love with her. And it's

520
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,280
Speaker 5: a tough situation. You go that far and you're thinking

521
00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 5: you're the guy and kind of get the rug pulled

522
00:21:58,480 --> 00:21:59,320
Speaker 5: out for me to any of you.

523
00:21:59,400 --> 00:22:03,200
Speaker 4: But Chuck and Jones seemed very happy.

524
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:06,600
Speaker 5: It's very well studied for each other, certainly right now,

525
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:10,800
Speaker 5: and I think I think happiness is in the future

526
00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 5: for them.

527
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:12,000
Speaker 1: Good.

528
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,800
Speaker 3: That's amazing. Well, thank you so much for coming on.

529
00:22:14,960 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 3: I'm glad we finally got to have you as a guest.

530
00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was great to finally talk to you guys.

531
00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 4: I would love to continue it.

532
00:22:21,359 --> 00:22:24,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's uh, let's connect next time. I'm in Chicago

533
00:22:24,119 --> 00:22:29,840
Speaker 1: and I'll call I'll call Louis and uh, hi, Michael,

534
00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:31,720
Speaker 1: welcome to Betcher Happy Hour.

535
00:22:33,040 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 6: Thank you, it's great to be here.

536
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: How's it Uh, how's it going? Where where are you located?

537
00:22:38,600 --> 00:22:41,320
Speaker 2: I'm in I'm just outside of Charlotte, and yeah, we

538
00:22:41,359 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 2: had a little bit of winter last night.

539
00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:45,000
Speaker 6: So there's woke up to snow on the ground, which

540
00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:46,000
Speaker 6: is pretty rare down here.

541
00:22:46,400 --> 00:22:46,720
Speaker 3: Snow.

542
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:47,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

543
00:22:47,200 --> 00:22:50,160
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, yeah, how cold does it get

544
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 1: for the winters it gets.

545
00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,399
Speaker 2: It's been in the low twenties this week. It's not

546
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,840
Speaker 2: much moreer than thirty five out now.

547
00:22:56,960 --> 00:23:03,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, thank you for correct Yeah. So how did

548
00:23:03,520 --> 00:23:06,160
Speaker 1: you wind up on the Golden Bets for app.

549
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:09,959
Speaker 6: Well, my son and my daughter in law applied.

550
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:12,879
Speaker 2: They were huge fans of the series, and you probably

551
00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:15,320
Speaker 2: heard this from a lot of guys, but they really

552
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 2: thought I'd be great on it, and they went ahead

553
00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 2: and sent an application, and unbeknownst to me, So I'm

554
00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,960
Speaker 2: on vacation with my brother and some other guys and

555
00:23:23,040 --> 00:23:25,439
Speaker 2: I get this text asking if I was interested in

556
00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 2: being on the show. And I waited for the follow

557
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,040
Speaker 2: up asking me to send one hundred dollars in bitcoin

558
00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:30,400
Speaker 2: to this.

559
00:23:30,480 --> 00:23:32,840
Speaker 6: Number, and but that never came. So I thought, maybe

560
00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:33,560
Speaker 6: there's something to this.

561
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,880
Speaker 1: What was your knowledge of the show before that?

562
00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:44,439
Speaker 2: Well, I had watched The Golden Bachelor. Again, there were

563
00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 2: huge fans and you know, they had suggested. I checked

564
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,760
Speaker 2: this dot see what the women were like on the show,

565
00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:53,160
Speaker 2: and you know what the whole experience was like. And

566
00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 2: I was really impressed by it. I really liked it

567
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,399
Speaker 2: a lot and thought it was great. Then I watched

568
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: the some of the highlights of the Bachelor series, and

569
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,320
Speaker 2: maybe I walked that back a little bit, but at

570
00:24:05,320 --> 00:24:07,360
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it was all positive.

571
00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:10,520
Speaker 3: I thought, for the most part, Before you went on

572
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:13,880
Speaker 3: the show, what was it like dating? What was your

573
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 3: dating life like? Were you on the apps? What was

574
00:24:16,640 --> 00:24:17,359
Speaker 3: the strategy?

575
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:18,280
Speaker 6: Yeah?

576
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: I was on the apps, and that's you know that

577
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:24,960
Speaker 2: gets really stale. It's a you know, it's a dance

578
00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,639
Speaker 2: that you're doing that involves not wanting to hurt people's feelings,

579
00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:31,920
Speaker 2: trying to discern as quickly as possible whether there's any

580
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:37,360
Speaker 2: chemistry there, and not wanting to put yourself out there

581
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:41,120
Speaker 2: too much into a position where you need to pull

582
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:42,439
Speaker 2: back and walk away.

583
00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 6: In other words, trust has to be there, and that's.

584
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:49,440
Speaker 2: A difficult thing to do with a bunch of strangers

585
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 2: in any environments, let alone an app.

586
00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:54,359
Speaker 6: I feel really bad for the women.

587
00:24:54,400 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 2: That's got really hard because you and you've got the

588
00:24:57,280 --> 00:25:01,639
Speaker 2: you know, the possibility of you know, physical violence or

589
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:04,000
Speaker 2: whatever hand which guys don't have to deal with.

590
00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 3: So yeah, there's so many crazy horror stories about like

591
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:11,960
Speaker 3: creepos and murderers and cannibals out there on the dating apps.

592
00:25:12,359 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 6: I haven't heard anything about cannibals, really.

593
00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:15,200
Speaker 3: I've heard a few.

594
00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 1: Well, one of yours dated an no one directly.

595
00:25:21,119 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 3: Okay, this is all through the room room, al so

596
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:24,760
Speaker 3: take it with a grain of salt. It might not

597
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 3: be very true. But I just heard one recently about

598
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:31,119
Speaker 3: this girl that went on a date and anyway, it

599
00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:34,160
Speaker 3: was just no no through a frid.

600
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:36,679
Speaker 6: Like chicken.

601
00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,320
Speaker 3: Oh god, that should be the first red flag.

602
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 1: We we we heard you had some health issues. Where

603
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:48,560
Speaker 1: are you right now on your health journey and what's

604
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 1: going on there?

605
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:51,200
Speaker 6: Thank you? Yeah.

606
00:25:51,240 --> 00:25:55,480
Speaker 2: So I was diagnosed with cancer right before I received

607
00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:56,360
Speaker 2: that text.

608
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:56,720
Speaker 3: And.

609
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:00,840
Speaker 2: I wasn't sure I wanted to continue you with the

610
00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:04,600
Speaker 2: process or not, but my son and my daughter in

611
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,639
Speaker 2: law kind of convinced me of it. My doctor I

612
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,119
Speaker 2: talked to about it and he creen lit it, and

613
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: so I went ahead and did it.

614
00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,400
Speaker 6: It was prostate cancer, So I.

615
00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 2: Didn't bring that up on the on the mental law

616
00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 2: because a lot of people hear that and they think, well,

617
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:20,520
Speaker 2: that's no big deal, but it can be. It can

618
00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 2: be aggressive. In my case, it was, and I was

619
00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 2: already being treated for it with medicine. And I'm honest

620
00:26:26,840 --> 00:26:29,440
Speaker 2: with you. The medicine that they give you when you're

621
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 2: prostate cancer, and what it does is it basically puts

622
00:26:32,560 --> 00:26:36,959
Speaker 2: the cancer into stasis so it can't grow, is what

623
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,119
Speaker 2: they call ADYT therapy. And what that does is it

624
00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:42,159
Speaker 2: removes all the testosterol from your body. So I was

625
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: the first guy in the history really go on to

626
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 2: show on any testosterone. I was really glad when I

627
00:26:48,000 --> 00:26:49,919
Speaker 2: heard that Joan was not going to have beds in

628
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:50,760
Speaker 2: the fantasy story.

629
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 6: It's because I was like, Oh, that's gonna be tough.

630
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,800
Speaker 1: What is that? Can you explain what what how that

631
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,640
Speaker 1: feels when you when you lose all your test stosterone?

632
00:27:02,080 --> 00:27:03,119
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean it's tough.

633
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 2: It makes me much more sympathetic for women going through

634
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,680
Speaker 2: menopause because one of the side effects is you get

635
00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:14,679
Speaker 2: night sweats, and you and every half hour or so,

636
00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,720
Speaker 2: you know, throwing your sheets off because you're literally drenched

637
00:27:18,760 --> 00:27:21,639
Speaker 2: in sweat. Aside from that, I mean I've lost a

638
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 2: lot of muscle mass, and in addition to that, you

639
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 2: get moody and you get depressed, and you've got to

640
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: be really careful about putting weight on as well. It

641
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,960
Speaker 2: can have really serious side effects if you're on it

642
00:27:36,040 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: for too long. I just went off at about about

643
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: three weeks ago, so I'm raring to get the testouts

644
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:44,920
Speaker 2: from the back and get that out.

645
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 1: So is that what happens? Does your testosterone come back

646
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:50,200
Speaker 1: at once you're off.

647
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,080
Speaker 2: The medicine I'm on, It comes out, It comes back

648
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,639
Speaker 2: pretty quickly, so within a few weeks it should be

649
00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 2: at least a baseline.

650
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, So where is your health at now? And then

651
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,920
Speaker 3: moving forward, it sounds like you're progressing well if you're

652
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:05,080
Speaker 3: coming off with the medication.

653
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 2: Damn, the prognosis is excellent. And again it was aggressive

654
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,320
Speaker 2: but also caught early. I had to go through a

655
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:15,280
Speaker 2: couple of surgeries and some radiation. But I think twenty

656
00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 2: twenty five is gonna be gonna be a great year.

657
00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 3: That's great, right, good the hair, wow?

658
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: But you know, I like a little little positive energy.

659
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 1: We started talking about cannibals. I didn't know way this

660
00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 1: podcast is.

661
00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 3: Gonna you know, there's a lot of there's a lot

662
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:29,760
Speaker 3: of crazy.

663
00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:39,120
Speaker 1: People out there, so let's let's jump a little to

664
00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,480
Speaker 1: the show. Your your time on the show, you know,

665
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,880
Speaker 1: just like stepping out of the limo. What was going

666
00:28:45,120 --> 00:28:49,840
Speaker 1: through your head in that moment? And yeah, I didn't

667
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: want to.

668
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,000
Speaker 6: Be the first gut to face plan on the driveway.

669
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,440
Speaker 2: First of all, I will tell you this before I

670
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: even before we even pulled up, We're wondering what the

671
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:01,080
Speaker 2: whold up is. We got out stretch outside of the

672
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:04,160
Speaker 2: limo and there's a horse galloping down the street.

673
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:05,800
Speaker 6: And I'm like, what the hell was this?

674
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 2: And we only found out later that one of the contestants, David,

675
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 2: had brought a horse and he had escaped. So this

676
00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,360
Speaker 2: happened right before limo pulled up.

677
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 6: But I was afraid of face planting. I had.

678
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,720
Speaker 2: Ultimately, I think I'd over rehearsed my line. I had

679
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,520
Speaker 2: a little bit of a pattern I gave her that

680
00:29:24,640 --> 00:29:27,320
Speaker 2: probably sounded pretty can to her. But at least I

681
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,120
Speaker 2: got through it without fainting. And then I went in

682
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,320
Speaker 2: order to stiff drink.

683
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: How did you feel about living with a bunch of

684
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,720
Speaker 1: guys who probably are loaded up with testosterone?

685
00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 2: At that point, Yeah they are, but they're older and wiser, right,

686
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 2: and they didn't know that about me.

687
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 6: I kind of kept that to myself.

688
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:48,040
Speaker 2: It was, look, these guys were great, and I think

689
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,959
Speaker 2: the producers, you know, everyone says, well, these guys, this

690
00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:54,360
Speaker 2: is a natural, organic bonding experience, and it was. But

691
00:29:54,440 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: I also think the producers had the sign out in

692
00:29:57,120 --> 00:30:00,080
Speaker 2: front that said no jerk's allowed, because you know, I

693
00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 2: couldn't snuff out one. And they seemed to like universally

694
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:06,720
Speaker 2: a bunch of really good guys, including the ones that

695
00:30:06,800 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 2: left at first night, and I always feel bad for them.

696
00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:12,360
Speaker 2: I only did through the second ceremony myself, but the

697
00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 2: guys who left early, I must have it must be

698
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:16,479
Speaker 2: kind of rough to go through all the vetting in

699
00:30:16,600 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 2: order to have.

700
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 6: That end like that. But they were always They're all

701
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:22,640
Speaker 6: good guys. I thought. I really loved getting to know them.

702
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:25,200
Speaker 2: And listen a short period of time as I was there,

703
00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,480
Speaker 2: I formed bonds with these guys. I had dinner with

704
00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 2: Pascal and Jordan not that long ago. I'm going to

705
00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 2: see Jack when I go up to the Chicago to

706
00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,520
Speaker 2: visit my kids for Christmas, and you know, I'm hoping

707
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,720
Speaker 2: that that I'm life flogging friends with something. Chocks kids,

708
00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 2: Taylor and Tyler brought Futo for me, not that far,

709
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:44,720
Speaker 2: but they live in.

710
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,719
Speaker 1: That's so your kids live in Chicago. I'm from Chicago.

711
00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:50,120
Speaker 6: That's where I'm from.

712
00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:53,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chago a lot of Chicago.

713
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 1: What area are you from.

714
00:30:56,280 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 2: I'm from Naperville, which is a western suburb of Chicago.

715
00:31:00,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 1: I'm from my Such Park no kidding, Yeah, is living.

716
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 6: He's living an Oak Park right now? Yeah, okay, stay

717
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:08,760
Speaker 6: with yeah?

718
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah yeah, Oak Park. Yeah right there, literally right

719
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 1: next door to Oak Park.

720
00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:16,200
Speaker 6: Yep.

721
00:31:16,240 --> 00:31:19,520
Speaker 1: That's crazy. Okay. So then you know, being on the

722
00:31:19,560 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: show for a short time it could be a blessing.

723
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,320
Speaker 1: It also is pretty rough. I was only on I

724
00:31:24,720 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: went home night one? What was Why do you think

725
00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: you went home week two?

726
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 6: Yeah, I've thought about this a little bit. At the

727
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 6: end of the day, you know, there's either a spark

728
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:38,680
Speaker 6: there or there's not.

729
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:40,880
Speaker 2: And she's got a lot of guys that she has

730
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,800
Speaker 2: to plow through pretty pretty damn quickly. So you know,

731
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 2: if if the chemistry, if the spark wasn't there, you know,

732
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,360
Speaker 2: even in the short period of time you're together. I

733
00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,000
Speaker 2: used to say when we when I went on these

734
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:54,640
Speaker 2: dating apps, you can tell within five minutes if if

735
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: you're attracted or interested in somewhere, and I'm guessing that

736
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 2: she probably wasn't with me. The only I've looked back

737
00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:02,960
Speaker 2: on and maybe I regret a tiny bit, is that

738
00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 2: I could have been more authentic. I could have been

739
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: more myself. I was probably overly concerned with presenting myself

740
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 2: in the best possible light instead of just being me.

741
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: So if I had to do it over again, I

742
00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,880
Speaker 2: do that. But maybe that buys me another week. At

743
00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 2: the end of the day, it's not gonna move a

744
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,000
Speaker 2: need on munch, I don't think, you know.

745
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 4: And that's okay.

746
00:32:19,600 --> 00:32:23,080
Speaker 1: I think it's also really hard when, like, I feel

747
00:32:23,120 --> 00:32:25,520
Speaker 1: like I'm somewhat of a reserved person, and when you

748
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:27,120
Speaker 1: are and you go on these shows and then you

749
00:32:27,200 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 1: have so many big characters, it is hard sometimes to

750
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,760
Speaker 1: stand out because you know, it's just there's just so

751
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:39,320
Speaker 1: many guys and people are very aggressive, and it just

752
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:43,320
Speaker 1: it's easy when you are a reserved person to just

753
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 1: kind of like lay back and be like, all right, well,

754
00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:48,560
Speaker 1: let the chips fall where they fall kind of thing.

755
00:32:49,520 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally agree, and I hit conversation with Mark

756
00:32:52,760 --> 00:32:56,200
Speaker 2: and one other guy because I kind of so stopped

757
00:32:56,200 --> 00:32:59,320
Speaker 2: that we were the three or four introverts, and I

758
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: was wondering what it was like for them, because for me,

759
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 2: I felt, you know, like, yeah, like I was walking

760
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 2: among giants in terms of personalities because you have Gary there,

761
00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,280
Speaker 2: and you have Jack, and you know, these guys were Charles.

762
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 2: These guys were extremely charismatic and uh, and you know,

763
00:33:18,520 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 2: I like to think of my own quiet way I am,

764
00:33:20,360 --> 00:33:22,760
Speaker 2: but but not you know, I don't land that way

765
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: in a short period of time.

766
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 6: You know, it's fine. I can tell you're reserved.

767
00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:29,360
Speaker 2: I maybe those of us who are like that can

768
00:33:29,440 --> 00:33:30,840
Speaker 2: kind of see it right away.

769
00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:35,600
Speaker 1: We get each other, even over Zoom, we get each other.

770
00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,320
Speaker 1: You're are you retired?

771
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:41,560
Speaker 6: I am a retired community bank CEO. Yeah.

772
00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,760
Speaker 2: I was little community banks in Illinois. You're from Illinois.

773
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 2: There's a million little banks. Yeah, and that's what I

774
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,280
Speaker 2: did during my career.

775
00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:52,240
Speaker 1: What are your what are your thoughts? You mentioned, uh, bitcoin?

776
00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on bitcoin?

777
00:33:55,920 --> 00:34:00,600
Speaker 2: On bitcoin? I think I think it's going to blow

778
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 2: past one hundred K. I think that's a given. Whether

779
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,640
Speaker 2: it gets to five hundred or a million, some of

780
00:34:05,680 --> 00:34:08,959
Speaker 2: these guys are calling for I don't know. I would

781
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,400
Speaker 2: definitely take some chips off the table as soon as

782
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: it gets past and call it.

783
00:34:14,520 --> 00:34:16,200
Speaker 6: That's Mie. What do you think?

784
00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:19,719
Speaker 1: I think. I think the cycle, which I believe we're

785
00:34:19,760 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 1: currently in a bull cycle. I think I could see

786
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:27,319
Speaker 1: it going as high as two hundred by March. But

787
00:34:27,400 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: I agree, and then I think there'll be a there's

788
00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:33,200
Speaker 1: always a big, a sizeable pullback. And but yeah, I

789
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 1: mean I I I buy into it. I don't know

790
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:40,040
Speaker 1: how high it will go, but everything's looking pretty promising

791
00:34:40,080 --> 00:34:41,880
Speaker 1: at this point, so I agree.

792
00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, totally, so I know. Sorry, No, it's okay.

793
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 3: Joe loves bitcoin. So what is next for you? Because

794
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:59,239
Speaker 3: you're retired, you've come off this show. What are what

795
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 3: are the goals with Forward in the future?

796
00:35:01,000 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 6: Are you dating Golden Basso and Paradise? Of course?

797
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:06,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, you would you do it.

798
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,320
Speaker 6: Absolutely that. Yeah, I want my shirt on either that.

799
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 6: I'd hit the gym for six months, you know, just

800
00:35:12,680 --> 00:35:13,960
Speaker 6: live there, I just move in.

801
00:35:14,320 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 3: You're not the first guy to come on and say that.

802
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:20,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad to hear that. Yeah, I would absolutely

803
00:35:20,520 --> 00:35:21,840
Speaker 2: do it. I think it would be a Blast. I

804
00:35:21,840 --> 00:35:22,840
Speaker 2: don't think they will.

805
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,000
Speaker 6: Do it, but I'd love it if i'd be all in.

806
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:27,719
Speaker 3: I think they might at some point, might be. It

807
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:29,879
Speaker 3: might be a little hard now because there's only been

808
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 3: one season of Golden Bachler one season a Golden BACHERTT,

809
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: But I think down the line there will be a time.

810
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: I think a lot of people want to see it,

811
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:42,400
Speaker 3: and you know, see the contestants that everyone fell in

812
00:35:42,400 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 3: love with have another chance of finding love. Are there

813
00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:47,000
Speaker 3: any women that you have your eye on? There?

814
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:48,560
Speaker 1: You were, you were at the you were at the

815
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:52,080
Speaker 1: mental after the rows, anything happened there?

816
00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 6: Yeah?

817
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: I mean I got to meet some of the women

818
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 2: of the Golden Bauschler.

819
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,479
Speaker 6: I had a Yeah, I had a really good time.

820
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,600
Speaker 2: And I've been texting a couple of them, just you know,

821
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 2: on a friendly basis from time to time, and uh

822
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,719
Speaker 2: and and hearing back from them as well. I mean,

823
00:36:08,719 --> 00:36:11,080
Speaker 2: we've all shared something really unique, So even on that

824
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:14,080
Speaker 2: level alone, there's some common interest there.

825
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,080
Speaker 6: So and they're great. I thought they were.

826
00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 1: Terrific watching watching The Golden Bachelor. I don't know how

827
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 1: if you watch the entire season or just some of it,

828
00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:26,279
Speaker 1: were there any women that stood out? To you that

829
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:28,680
Speaker 1: you thought maybe you would be a good match with

830
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: Besides Jones, there's.

831
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,279
Speaker 6: A couple that might be that that that, yeah, there

832
00:36:39,360 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 6: might be a good match for me. We'll have to see.

833
00:36:41,840 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 2: I mean, I I've met I've met some terrific ladies

834
00:36:45,760 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: so far.

835
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:47,920
Speaker 6: I'll just yeah, I'll name some names.

836
00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: We need the names, give us, you know, And now

837
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:53,920
Speaker 1: I'm blanking out.

838
00:36:53,960 --> 00:36:54,759
Speaker 3: And what have you?

839
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,480
Speaker 1: Have you met? Have you met? Have you met Nancy yet?

840
00:36:59,000 --> 00:36:59,320
Speaker 3: No?

841
00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,520
Speaker 1: I have not met Nancy.

842
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,120
Speaker 6: I think all the guys would like to meet Nancy,

843
00:37:03,239 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 6: to be honest.

844
00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 3: With you, but I know we're trying to we're trying

845
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 3: to set up Nancy.

846
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:08,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

847
00:37:08,480 --> 00:37:11,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's a she's a beautiful woman and she seems

848
00:37:11,520 --> 00:37:13,360
Speaker 2: really grounded. So that's intriguing.

849
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 6: You know.

850
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 2: What's a really nice lady who is very sweet and

851
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,360
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of a bad rap. Is Kathy,

852
00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 2: very sensitive and easy to talk to and write. And

853
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,480
Speaker 2: we've been texting a little bit back and forth as well.

854
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: I sat next to Sylvia. She was very sweet as well.

855
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: I liked her and uh yes, Sandra, I enjoyed talking

856
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 2: with her. It was a party with a bunch of people,

857
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 2: so it's tough to decide.

858
00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 6: Whether or see whether there's any chemistry or not. Yeah,

859
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 6: so it's a little soon.

860
00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: How do you feel about dating? Would you date someone

861
00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 1: that lived in another state?

862
00:37:54,440 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 6: Sure? Yeah, I have Yeah that out. Yeah, listen, I'm

863
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 6: living in Charlotte. My kids are up in Chicago, so

864
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 6: I wouldn't be a post and groping. To be honest with.

865
00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: You, do you see yourself ever going back to Chicago?

866
00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, I definitely do. Grandkids are coming. I you know,

867
00:38:11,160 --> 00:38:13,080
Speaker 2: that'd be a tough tough thing not to do.

868
00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: What's keeping you currently in Charlotte.

869
00:38:17,360 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: My brother lives in Charlotte. He's the one that kind

870
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 2: of dragged me down here after retirement. He's like, this

871
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,480
Speaker 2: is an awesome place to live. And you've lived in Chago,

872
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 2: the Chicago where your whole life.

873
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:27,880
Speaker 6: Why not check it out? If you don't like it

874
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:30,359
Speaker 6: or you you know, you miss your kids? Move back.

875
00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 6: So so far, so good. I like it down here

876
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 6: a lot.

877
00:38:34,080 --> 00:38:38,600
Speaker 1: It's beautiful, nice. And then what does the upcoming holiday

878
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 1: season look like for you?

879
00:38:40,560 --> 00:38:41,840
Speaker 6: I'm going back to Chicago.

880
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to hang with uh, hang with the kids,

881
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:47,520
Speaker 2: and like I said, I'm hoping to see Jack Cascallon.

882
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 6: Invited me over too. I think Jordan, I think is

883
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:50,479
Speaker 6: out of town.

884
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 2: But yeah, reconnect with those guys and uh and also

885
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 2: my my old friends and uh and my kids as well.

886
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Speaker 6: I'll be hanging and spending time. I'm with both my sons.

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Speaker 1: Where did where did you Jordan and Pascal go to dinner?

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00:39:08,400 --> 00:39:12,960
Speaker 6: Uh? It was an Italian place, a little Italian tratoria.

889
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 3: Didn't.

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Speaker 1: That was him and that was just him and Pascal.

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00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 6: Really they want to.

892
00:39:22,360 --> 00:39:24,959
Speaker 3: How dare they sorry? I just exposed to them right now?

893
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 6: Yeah? Something so uh? No is that I can't pronounce

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Speaker 6: some yeah? Yeah?

895
00:39:32,680 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: Uh piccolo? Uh yes, yeah, it's it's on the corner

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Speaker 1: of Grand Grand In Halls that I.

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Speaker 7: Think Pascal shows up and his DBA has asked the

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00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,640
Speaker 7: Martin d B A with the top down that checks

899
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,680
Speaker 7: out right, Yeah, Bobby grabs him by the chasing Michael,

900
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:55,600
Speaker 7: you must live a more positive life.

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00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 6: You have to live in the moment, my friend. This

902
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:58,319
Speaker 6: is this is.

903
00:39:58,280 --> 00:40:01,000
Speaker 2: The secret, this is what's gonna make your And then

904
00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,239
Speaker 2: I watched this dude pull out out in that car,

905
00:40:03,320 --> 00:40:05,640
Speaker 2: and I thought, you know, there's a little more to it.

906
00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:07,800
Speaker 2: I think if I was driving one of those I

907
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:09,319
Speaker 2: might feel a little differently too.

908
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think positivity is just one aspect of his happiness.

909
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,200
Speaker 6: I really dug that guy. He's a man.

910
00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, he he was. He was he was fun to watch.

911
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:24,960
Speaker 1: He's definitely it's definitely a character. Lastly, what were your

912
00:40:25,000 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: thoughts watching the finale and seeing the way everything ended

913
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:29,360
Speaker 1: up for Joan.

914
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Speaker 6: I think that.

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00:40:37,200 --> 00:40:40,920
Speaker 2: I think that Chock got I think there, I think

916
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 2: that Chock could have gotten gotten a little. I think

917
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Speaker 2: it was straight a little harshly and I don't won't

918
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Speaker 2: say by the producers, but I would say certainly by

919
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:51,239
Speaker 2: the audience. And you know, I spent a little bit

920
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: of time on Reddit, and man, they can be harsh

921
00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 2: and they've been really rough on him. And I know

922
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,439
Speaker 2: him a bit, and I know his kids, and he's

923
00:41:00,480 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 2: a great guy and a great dad.

924
00:41:03,080 --> 00:41:06,439
Speaker 6: And look, he just fell in love.

925
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,919
Speaker 2: He fell hard and early, and you know, he's also

926
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,160
Speaker 2: a competitive guy too.

927
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:13,399
Speaker 6: At the end of the day, that was the one

928
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:14,200
Speaker 6: that stuck with me.

929
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,040
Speaker 2: I'm glad that they're together, and I really think that

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00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:21,000
Speaker 2: it's genuine from the heart, and I wish them the best.

931
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Speaker 2: But that was the one takeaway that I had that.

932
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 2: I would have liked to have see him gone down

933
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: a little bit differently, you know. I hated to see

934
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:32,520
Speaker 2: guy get hurt like that. Guys is terrific. But he'll

935
00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:34,280
Speaker 2: be fine. He'll be all right, I think.

936
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 4: At the end of the day.

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00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:39,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I think so too. You know what's interesting too,

938
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 3: is Chuck is getting, you know, some flack for everything.

939
00:41:43,239 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: But I've seen guys like fall in love and act

940
00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 3: very similarly to how he did with Joan on The

941
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 3: Bachelorette when they're twenty something and not get any flack

942
00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 3: for it.

943
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, but it's I feel like it's a different

944
00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,520
Speaker 1: I feel like that kind of goes hand in hand

945
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:07,200
Speaker 1: with the men when they're in their mid to late twenties.

946
00:42:07,239 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: But they do get that.

947
00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 3: They do, like remember, I just think they're being harder

948
00:42:11,640 --> 00:42:13,960
Speaker 3: on Like, I just think maybe there's a little bit

949
00:42:13,960 --> 00:42:15,000
Speaker 3: of agesm happening here.

950
00:42:15,719 --> 00:42:17,960
Speaker 1: Maybe you know, maybe maybe maybe those people are.

951
00:42:18,320 --> 00:42:21,080
Speaker 3: They have a beautiful teenage fair to love.

952
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:22,040
Speaker 1: It's great.

953
00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 6: They need a quiet it was a quiet season. They

954
00:42:24,200 --> 00:42:25,439
Speaker 6: needed a little drama too.

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00:42:25,640 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, Michael, thank you so much for taking the

956
00:42:30,080 --> 00:42:32,759
Speaker 1: time out of your day. We really enjoyed talking to

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00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:37,279
Speaker 1: you and hopefully we see you again on our TVs.

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00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:38,759
Speaker 3: Yeah or about.

959
00:42:38,800 --> 00:42:41,000
Speaker 6: Thanks, Thanks so much, love talking to you.

960
00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:42,120
Speaker 3: Of course, it's great to meet you.

961
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,160
Speaker 1: Thanks for coming on, and to our listeners, thank you

962
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:47,040
Speaker 1: so much for tuning into Bachelor Happy Hour. Make sure

963
00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,879
Speaker 1: you download and subscribe.

964
00:42:49,239 --> 00:42:51,920
Speaker 3: Thank you so much for listening. We hope you're enjoying

965
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 3: the holiday season and keep tuning in because we have

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Speaker 3: more exciting his story interviews coming your way. Bye.