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Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Scheger is a production of the

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Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome to

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Speaker 1: the Season with Peter Schrager. I'm sitting here covered in

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Speaker 1: egg all over my face. I've got crow in my mouth.

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Speaker 1: Last night was a shell lacking of epic proportions. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm recording this on a Tuesday morning, and I'm trying

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Speaker 1: not to be knee jerk guy. But after I spent

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Speaker 1: an entire summer on every major podcast, including this one

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Speaker 1: and a national television show, waxing poetic on the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets being a one seed in the AFC and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers being an MVP, they got the snot kicked

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Speaker 1: out of them. I have this weird internal dialogue, and

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Speaker 1: the internal dialogue starts with fear because the Jets are

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Speaker 1: supposed to be one of these teams that prides themselves

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Speaker 1: on their defense. Where last year with seven wins, they

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Speaker 1: still managed seven wins despite unspeakably bad quarterback play between

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Speaker 1: Trevor Simmey and Tim Boyle, Zach Wilson and whoever else,

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Speaker 1: and the year before they won a bunch of games

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Speaker 1: with Chris Streveler and the motley crew that they had

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Speaker 1: backing up Zach Wilson with a Joe Flacco that was

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Speaker 1: not the version we saw last year in Cleveland. I'm like,

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Speaker 1: if they won those games there and they added to

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Speaker 1: the offensive line, which, by the way, last year suited

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Speaker 1: up twenty different players and had thirteen different combinations, surely

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be much improved because the defense is so

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Speaker 1: dan good. Last night, the defense was awful. They couldn't

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Speaker 1: stop anything. Jordan Mason is an undrafted player at a

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Speaker 1: Georgia Tech. He's been with the Niners for a couple

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Speaker 1: of years. But when Christian McCaffrey's ruled inactive, of people

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Speaker 1: fantasy football fans aside, who are like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 1: the Jets have this thing in the bag because mccaffery's everything.

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Speaker 1: For Jordan Mason to go twenty eight carries for one

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty nine yards in a touchdown right up

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Speaker 1: the gut on a defense that prides itself on its

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Speaker 1: front seven. All I heard about this summer was how

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Speaker 1: they didn't need Hassan Reddick necessarily. It was a nice

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Speaker 1: to have, not a must have, because they were so

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Speaker 1: loaded in the front seven. Think about their roster as

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Speaker 1: a whole. You're talking about Quinn Williams, who's an All Pro.

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Speaker 1: You're talking about first round picks up and down the roster,

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Speaker 1: whether it be Will McDonald or it be Jermaine Johnson,

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Speaker 1: or in the last couple of years, you've had guys

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Speaker 1: who've been joining the team like Tac McKinley or Javon

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Speaker 1: the front seven is supposed to be the strength of

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Speaker 1: the team and they were man handled last night. So

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Speaker 1: my immediate reaction is, look at time of possession, look

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Speaker 1: down the Jets defense couldn't get the Niners off the field.

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Speaker 1: In my imedy reaction, it's like they're not competing with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs and the Ravens this year. That team isn't.

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Speaker 1: They're not. They might win eight games, they might take

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Speaker 1: care of business against some inferior part they're not. They're

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Speaker 1: not beating the Chiefs of the Ravens. They're certainly not

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Speaker 1: gonna beat any of the AFC East teams. If they're

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Speaker 1: in full swing, like they're not going out there and

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Speaker 1: you're gonna sweep the Bills and the Dolphins, which is

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Speaker 1: what it would take to be the one seed. So

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Speaker 1: I feel foolish, I feel dumb. I feel like I

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Speaker 1: led you on. I feel like I did their preseason

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Speaker 1: moment and I'm like, well, Rogers looked pretty good when

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Speaker 1: he had an opportunity to throw the ball. Garrett Wilson

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Speaker 1: looked damn good. Lazard got a few touches after the

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Speaker 1: initial drop in the first series, and Lazard looked all right,

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Speaker 1: and the offensive line kept Aaron Rodgers upright. And oh yeah,

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Speaker 1: by the way, the forty nine ers are absolutely loaded.

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Speaker 1: They just played the defending NFC champions, who are pissed

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Speaker 1: they lost the Super Bowl, and they played them in

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Speaker 1: So the Jets play the Titans on Sunday in Nashville.

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Speaker 1: The Titans, who their head coach, Brian Callahan, I think

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Speaker 1: not supposed to be world beaters this year. They should

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Speaker 1: And they lost. They look terrible, and so much so

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Speaker 1: I didn't see many positive signs. And I feel for

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Speaker 1: Hard Knocks cameras to be analyzing every offseason move and

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks. You start saying, oh, well, we went through

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Speaker 1: all this and we're analyzing it, and well what happened

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Speaker 1: that like the pumpkin patches and the hay rides, and

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Speaker 1: And in a lot of ways, like Giants fans to the other,

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Speaker 1: Like that's that's demoralizing. I don't feel that way. I

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Speaker 1: their offense was moving with Love under center, and I

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Speaker 1: thought that game could have gone either way. Playing in

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Speaker 1: that didn't see my ideal. I'm not gonna say that's

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Speaker 1: And for you to lay an egg like that with Watson,

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Speaker 1: major disappointment. Giants, major disappointment, Falcons major disappointment. What was

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Speaker 1: that to bring in Cousins? Cousins does not look one

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Speaker 1: New York Brady. Everyone's asking me what you think of Brady?

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Speaker 1: It's a what's it? Is he submitting an Emmy reel

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Speaker 1: every week. And I thought Burke Cahrt was fantastic. And

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Speaker 1: There wasn't really many opportunities. What do you want to do?

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Speaker 1: You want to bury Deshaun Watson for for sixty minutes?

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Speaker 1: competitive game. All in all, an amazing week one. You

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Speaker 2: Who I texted him because he was in my hometown

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Speaker 2: we're doing. And every time Peyton would go to talk,

424
00:20:10,746 --> 00:20:12,666
Speaker 2: Bill would say something. At one point Peyton kind of

425
00:20:12,746 --> 00:20:14,746
Speaker 2: laughed and he reared his head back. He's like, all right, Bill,

426
00:20:14,826 --> 00:20:17,666
Speaker 2: now you know what is your thoughts here? But it's funny.

427
00:20:17,706 --> 00:20:20,026
Speaker 2: And I was sitting there watching with my son. I said, here,

428
00:20:20,146 --> 00:20:22,026
Speaker 2: now you can experience what it was like to sit

429
00:20:22,066 --> 00:20:24,906
Speaker 2: in one of Bill's meetings. He's like Wilson, Wilson, I mean,

430
00:20:24,986 --> 00:20:27,426
Speaker 2: just double the guy. And it's just like, I think

431
00:20:27,426 --> 00:20:30,106
Speaker 2: people will get to see Bill from a different side

432
00:20:30,106 --> 00:20:32,106
Speaker 2: and it'll be fun for everyone. But I mean, god,

433
00:20:32,106 --> 00:20:35,186
Speaker 2: he's everywhere Instagram, instaface. I mean he used to talk

434
00:20:35,226 --> 00:20:37,986
Speaker 2: to us about, you know, stay off of insta face

435
00:20:38,146 --> 00:20:41,586
Speaker 2: and my Twitter and all this stuff, and now to

436
00:20:41,586 --> 00:20:43,106
Speaker 2: see him everywhere, it's pretty funny.

437
00:20:43,666 --> 00:20:45,906
Speaker 1: No joke though. Like Julian was on our show on

438
00:20:45,986 --> 00:20:49,466
Speaker 1: Sunday and Edelman says, the team he's watching is the

439
00:20:49,586 --> 00:20:51,706
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons, and I'm like, oh, yeah, they got fun

440
00:20:51,706 --> 00:20:53,826
Speaker 1: team and they designed cousins. He goes, I'm watching the

441
00:20:53,866 --> 00:20:56,426
Speaker 1: Atlanta Falcons because Bill Belichick interviewed for that job and

442
00:20:56,466 --> 00:20:58,786
Speaker 1: did not get it, and they chose someone else, Rahie

443
00:20:58,866 --> 00:21:02,026
Speaker 1: Morris over them. If they're a win now team and

444
00:21:02,066 --> 00:21:05,506
Speaker 1: they chose someone over coach, I know there's this mystique.

445
00:21:05,506 --> 00:21:07,946
Speaker 1: And there's also some recon years where Belichick missed the

446
00:21:07,946 --> 00:21:11,426
Speaker 1: playoffs and his teams didn't compete for any AFC titles

447
00:21:11,426 --> 00:21:13,706
Speaker 1: and he is in his seventies. Where do you stand

448
00:21:13,746 --> 00:21:18,106
Speaker 1: on Belichick twenty twenty five NFL head coach? Do you

449
00:21:18,186 --> 00:21:20,826
Speaker 1: see that still happening or do you think this is

450
00:21:20,866 --> 00:21:22,666
Speaker 1: a nice smooth transition to media.

451
00:21:23,346 --> 00:21:25,746
Speaker 2: I mean we'll see, right, I mean it will. He

452
00:21:25,786 --> 00:21:28,146
Speaker 2: may go and do these media things and just enjoy it,

453
00:21:28,226 --> 00:21:31,986
Speaker 2: and you know, you always never know what opportunities present themselves.

454
00:21:32,026 --> 00:21:33,666
Speaker 2: I don't think Bill's going to go to a team

455
00:21:33,786 --> 00:21:36,506
Speaker 2: that's in a rebuilding mode. I think it'd be, you know,

456
00:21:36,546 --> 00:21:39,426
Speaker 2: somewhere like Dallas or Philly, somewhere that he knows he

457
00:21:39,466 --> 00:21:41,506
Speaker 2: can go in and has a roster and can kind

458
00:21:41,546 --> 00:21:44,546
Speaker 2: of come in right away and win football games. So

459
00:21:44,626 --> 00:21:46,626
Speaker 2: it'll be interesting to see. Obviously, he's doing a lot

460
00:21:46,666 --> 00:21:49,066
Speaker 2: of the media stuff right now, keeping himself busy, but

461
00:21:49,106 --> 00:21:50,946
Speaker 2: a lot of that is too, is keeping an eye

462
00:21:50,946 --> 00:21:53,386
Speaker 2: on the leak. You know, we were talking before we

463
00:21:53,946 --> 00:21:56,226
Speaker 2: started recording, Like for me, this is a whole new

464
00:21:56,226 --> 00:21:59,066
Speaker 2: world because I'm doing Patriots postgame show, but I'm also

465
00:21:59,146 --> 00:22:01,266
Speaker 2: covering some of the national stuff too, So I'm trying

466
00:22:01,306 --> 00:22:03,906
Speaker 2: to scramble to watch all these you know, all these games.

467
00:22:03,946 --> 00:22:06,986
Speaker 2: I got like six screens up and you know, so

468
00:22:07,106 --> 00:22:09,466
Speaker 2: for him, it's it's good because he's staying involved and

469
00:22:09,506 --> 00:22:11,426
Speaker 2: he's covering a lot of football, so he'll have a

470
00:22:11,506 --> 00:22:15,026
Speaker 2: really good in depth knowledge of different teams, what they need,

471
00:22:15,106 --> 00:22:18,026
Speaker 2: you know, what teams maybe he's looking and hoping for

472
00:22:18,346 --> 00:22:19,626
Speaker 2: if he gets back into coaching.

473
00:22:20,066 --> 00:22:23,906
Speaker 1: Okay, Patriots. Everyone coming into this season said it's going

474
00:22:23,946 --> 00:22:26,186
Speaker 1: to be a rebuilding year. Drake May is going to

475
00:22:26,186 --> 00:22:28,266
Speaker 1: be a long term project, so let's not rush him

476
00:22:28,266 --> 00:22:30,466
Speaker 1: out of the dugout just yet. Let's just start with

477
00:22:30,506 --> 00:22:33,066
Speaker 1: your Kobe, see what we can do. And then there's

478
00:22:33,066 --> 00:22:36,306
Speaker 1: this thing called survivor pools, which you pick one team

479
00:22:36,586 --> 00:22:38,466
Speaker 1: in the each week and you can't use him again

480
00:22:38,786 --> 00:22:41,226
Speaker 1: and good Morning football. I was the victim of this.

481
00:22:41,306 --> 00:22:43,986
Speaker 1: They said, Peter, pick one team that you feel most

482
00:22:44,026 --> 00:22:46,186
Speaker 1: confident in winning this week. I said, well, Cincinnati's at

483
00:22:46,226 --> 00:22:47,826
Speaker 1: home against a Patriots team that we have no idea

484
00:22:47,866 --> 00:22:50,826
Speaker 1: what they're going to get. And sure enough, I'm out

485
00:22:50,826 --> 00:22:53,106
Speaker 1: of the survivor pool after one week. Yet you didn't

486
00:22:53,146 --> 00:22:56,306
Speaker 1: seem so surprised. Brian. I'm watching you, and I was

487
00:22:56,346 --> 00:22:59,026
Speaker 1: watching you this entire preseason. You were one of the

488
00:22:59,026 --> 00:23:01,266
Speaker 1: few people who did not seem surprised that this Patriots

489
00:23:01,306 --> 00:23:06,186
Speaker 1: team came out and absolutely outmanned, was more disciplined, and

490
00:23:06,266 --> 00:23:09,466
Speaker 1: was better shape, it seemed like than this Bengals team

491
00:23:09,466 --> 00:23:11,786
Speaker 1: who was playing at home with all pros all over

492
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Speaker 1: the roster.

493
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Speaker 2: Well, and I said on the pregame show, my first

494
00:23:15,266 --> 00:23:17,586
Speaker 2: time making a prediction on a game. And I said,

495
00:23:17,626 --> 00:23:19,746
Speaker 2: maybe I'm just too close to it. Maybe I'm just

496
00:23:19,826 --> 00:23:22,626
Speaker 2: too you know, close to being a player and being positive.

497
00:23:22,706 --> 00:23:25,146
Speaker 2: But you know, I watched the Patriots in the preseason

498
00:23:25,226 --> 00:23:27,226
Speaker 2: and a lot was made. You know, Okay, who's going

499
00:23:27,266 --> 00:23:29,026
Speaker 2: to be the quarterback? Okay, you put that behind you.

500
00:23:29,026 --> 00:23:31,626
Speaker 2: You go with the veteran Jacoby because of his experience,

501
00:23:31,706 --> 00:23:34,106
Speaker 2: his knowledge of the system, you know what he brings

502
00:23:34,146 --> 00:23:37,666
Speaker 2: to the table. And then okay, the offensive line's the

503
00:23:37,986 --> 00:23:39,866
Speaker 2: what's the lineup gonna be? What are they gonna do?

504
00:23:40,266 --> 00:23:42,266
Speaker 2: But when I looked at the matchup, you know, the

505
00:23:42,306 --> 00:23:44,826
Speaker 2: Bengals weren't a great run defense the past few years.

506
00:23:44,826 --> 00:23:46,986
Speaker 2: The Patriots all they've been talking about is establishing the

507
00:23:47,066 --> 00:23:50,146
Speaker 2: run in this new era with Alex van Pelt. And

508
00:23:50,226 --> 00:23:52,306
Speaker 2: on top of that, you weren't really sure was Jamar

509
00:23:52,386 --> 00:23:55,306
Speaker 2: Chase gonna play? Was T Higgins gonna play? And look,

510
00:23:55,986 --> 00:23:57,706
Speaker 2: I was a long time Patriot, but last year when

511
00:23:57,706 --> 00:23:58,906
Speaker 2: I was in Vegas, I had to come in and

512
00:23:58,906 --> 00:24:01,026
Speaker 2: play against the Patriots, and I realized, you know, I

513
00:24:01,066 --> 00:24:03,786
Speaker 2: knew the defense was always good, but playing against them

514
00:24:03,786 --> 00:24:05,346
Speaker 2: in a game, they make it so hard on you

515
00:24:05,426 --> 00:24:07,546
Speaker 2: with how much they switched up. The fronts are different,

516
00:24:07,586 --> 00:24:10,386
Speaker 2: the coverages are different. It's it's a tough day. I mean,

517
00:24:10,426 --> 00:24:12,986
Speaker 2: you have to be as a quarterback on your p's

518
00:24:12,986 --> 00:24:15,386
Speaker 2: and q's the entire game because the moment you're not

519
00:24:15,746 --> 00:24:17,946
Speaker 2: and they fool you, it turns into a really bad play.

520
00:24:17,986 --> 00:24:20,826
Speaker 2: And so the defense did a great job. Obviously, Judon

521
00:24:20,946 --> 00:24:23,066
Speaker 2: traded away, but it was kind of a pass rush

522
00:24:23,066 --> 00:24:26,226
Speaker 2: by committee. Christian Zalez does a great job, you know,

523
00:24:26,306 --> 00:24:29,146
Speaker 2: locking up Jamar Chase, who you know, in all reality,

524
00:24:29,226 --> 00:24:31,866
Speaker 2: didn't practice much their in training camp, so the rhythm's

525
00:24:31,906 --> 00:24:33,586
Speaker 2: kind of off there, and I thought it was kind

526
00:24:33,626 --> 00:24:35,746
Speaker 2: of a perfect storm. And plus on top of that,

527
00:24:35,826 --> 00:24:37,826
Speaker 2: having been a teammate of Drawd Mayo, a friend of

528
00:24:37,906 --> 00:24:40,826
Speaker 2: Girod Mayo, and seeing him push these guys in training camp,

529
00:24:41,586 --> 00:24:44,146
Speaker 2: you could see that these guys believe in Girod. They

530
00:24:44,146 --> 00:24:45,706
Speaker 2: wanted to win for Jrod, and you saw that in

531
00:24:45,746 --> 00:24:49,706
Speaker 2: the postgame celebration, the exuberance that was there, and and

532
00:24:49,746 --> 00:24:52,026
Speaker 2: them just kind of, you know, building the foundation for

533
00:24:52,106 --> 00:24:55,426
Speaker 2: the program that they're trying to build. And you know,

534
00:24:55,466 --> 00:24:58,426
Speaker 2: I thought, if things went right, if the Patriots didn't

535
00:24:58,426 --> 00:25:00,786
Speaker 2: turn the ball over, if they ran the football, if

536
00:25:00,826 --> 00:25:03,986
Speaker 2: they could avoid you know, the pressure from an Arumu

537
00:25:04,146 --> 00:25:08,186
Speaker 2: and Hendrickson, which they did tremendous job, they'd be in it.

538
00:25:08,186 --> 00:25:09,986
Speaker 2: It'd be a close game. And so I predicted them

539
00:25:10,026 --> 00:25:11,866
Speaker 2: to win seventeen fourteen. So I was off by a

540
00:25:11,866 --> 00:25:14,786
Speaker 2: few points, but it played out kind of how I

541
00:25:14,826 --> 00:25:15,386
Speaker 2: thought it would.

542
00:25:16,186 --> 00:25:18,466
Speaker 1: All right, So you mentioned your teammates with him. You're

543
00:25:18,466 --> 00:25:21,626
Speaker 1: also there all training camp. Give me a good Girrod

544
00:25:21,666 --> 00:25:24,266
Speaker 1: Mayo's story, because a lot of people nationally, they don't

545
00:25:24,306 --> 00:25:26,026
Speaker 1: they know the name. They remember when he was drafted,

546
00:25:26,066 --> 00:25:28,626
Speaker 1: they remember him as a player. But like Patriots people

547
00:25:28,666 --> 00:25:30,546
Speaker 1: swear by this dude when he got that gig, and

548
00:25:30,586 --> 00:25:33,946
Speaker 1: everyone was like, what about Vrabel, what about Anyone inside

549
00:25:33,946 --> 00:25:35,706
Speaker 1: that organization was like no, no, no, you don't get it.

550
00:25:35,786 --> 00:25:38,186
Speaker 1: Gird Mayo is the guy. So tell us about Mayo

551
00:25:38,226 --> 00:25:40,626
Speaker 1: because I personally don't have much of a relationship.

552
00:25:40,146 --> 00:25:42,346
Speaker 2: With him right. A few things come to mind. We

553
00:25:42,426 --> 00:25:44,426
Speaker 2: used to be neighbors. We lived together next to each

554
00:25:44,426 --> 00:25:47,106
Speaker 2: other for three years, so we would go play NHL

555
00:25:47,146 --> 00:25:50,426
Speaker 2: hockey on PlayStation or FIFA, and I mean these were competitive.

556
00:25:50,466 --> 00:25:52,386
Speaker 2: You hear the stories about Tom Brady like throwing the

557
00:25:52,426 --> 00:25:54,786
Speaker 2: remote so the game would like glitch. I mean, these

558
00:25:54,786 --> 00:25:57,506
Speaker 2: were intense battles. So that's the type of competitor he is.

559
00:25:57,826 --> 00:26:00,266
Speaker 2: And then you know we were talking that we interviewed

560
00:26:00,306 --> 00:26:03,666
Speaker 2: Matt light And for our podcast and Macco's Jiraw was

561
00:26:03,706 --> 00:26:05,266
Speaker 2: a coach the moment he stepped on the field as

562
00:26:05,306 --> 00:26:07,786
Speaker 2: a player. That's the type of intelligence level. And I

563
00:26:07,826 --> 00:26:11,506
Speaker 2: remember these battles between Brady and Gerard where we would

564
00:26:11,546 --> 00:26:13,386
Speaker 2: have you know, we'd call two plays in the huddle.

565
00:26:13,946 --> 00:26:15,666
Speaker 2: Tom would come up, He'd see the look, he'd alert

566
00:26:15,706 --> 00:26:18,306
Speaker 2: to the second play. Giro would change the defense, then

567
00:26:18,346 --> 00:26:20,226
Speaker 2: Tom would go back to the original play, then Giab

568
00:26:20,226 --> 00:26:21,666
Speaker 2: would go back to the other. It was like a

569
00:26:21,746 --> 00:26:23,906
Speaker 2: mental chess game going on. And so you saw it

570
00:26:23,986 --> 00:26:25,986
Speaker 2: as a player, and he dealt with some injuries and

571
00:26:25,666 --> 00:26:28,266
Speaker 2: one funny story when I played against Gerard when I

572
00:26:28,266 --> 00:26:30,546
Speaker 2: was playing for Houston, we were playing the Patriots. I'll

573
00:26:30,546 --> 00:26:32,226
Speaker 2: never forget this, but this is just who he is.

574
00:26:32,626 --> 00:26:34,346
Speaker 2: I stepped up, I threw a seam ball. It was

575
00:26:34,386 --> 00:26:36,666
Speaker 2: going to be a touchdown. Our tight end dropped the ball,

576
00:26:36,706 --> 00:26:39,306
Speaker 2: and Girod was like just starts laughing in my face.

577
00:26:39,306 --> 00:26:40,786
Speaker 2: He's like, man, that was a great throw. That was

578
00:26:40,786 --> 00:26:42,346
Speaker 2: going to get a touchdown. And it was just one

579
00:26:42,346 --> 00:26:45,386
Speaker 2: of those demoralizing like oh my god, you know, just

580
00:26:45,506 --> 00:26:47,906
Speaker 2: one of those competitive things like get under your skin.

581
00:26:49,186 --> 00:26:51,306
Speaker 2: But you could see the leader he was as a player.

582
00:26:51,666 --> 00:26:53,786
Speaker 2: He kind of stepped away from football a little bit,

583
00:26:53,826 --> 00:26:56,706
Speaker 2: worked in the business world, you know, leadership skills there

584
00:26:56,746 --> 00:26:58,986
Speaker 2: and comes back. And I was there when I came

585
00:26:59,026 --> 00:27:01,586
Speaker 2: back when he was starting to coach, and you could

586
00:27:01,626 --> 00:27:03,986
Speaker 2: just see the guys gravitate to him. And I think

587
00:27:04,066 --> 00:27:05,666
Speaker 2: you look at Gerard and you say, Okay, he's a

588
00:27:05,706 --> 00:27:08,786
Speaker 2: former player, stands what I'm going through. And I think

589
00:27:08,826 --> 00:27:11,186
Speaker 2: that's what allowed him to kind of push these guys

590
00:27:11,226 --> 00:27:13,906
Speaker 2: in training camp, and they talked about it, this is

591
00:27:13,946 --> 00:27:15,866
Speaker 2: one of the most physical training camps they've had.

592
00:27:16,226 --> 00:27:16,346
Speaker 1: Uh.

593
00:27:16,426 --> 00:27:18,066
Speaker 2: He made them run the hill every day, just like

594
00:27:18,066 --> 00:27:20,946
Speaker 2: Bill and You talked about being in better shape. At

595
00:27:20,986 --> 00:27:22,906
Speaker 2: the end of that game, they run, they run the ball,

596
00:27:22,986 --> 00:27:24,586
Speaker 2: you know, when Cincinnati knows they're going to run the

597
00:27:24,586 --> 00:27:26,786
Speaker 2: ball and finish with the ball and taking a knee.

598
00:27:26,826 --> 00:27:29,706
Speaker 2: And so I think that game really embody probably who

599
00:27:29,786 --> 00:27:32,946
Speaker 2: Gerard was as a player. That's how that team played.

600
00:27:32,986 --> 00:27:36,466
Speaker 2: It's exactly what you know, I thought they they should

601
00:27:36,466 --> 00:27:38,146
Speaker 2: and could look like. And now you just got to

602
00:27:38,146 --> 00:27:39,586
Speaker 2: go out and do it again. We were talking about

603
00:27:39,626 --> 00:27:42,946
Speaker 2: it like, Okay, you laid one brick. Now you got

604
00:27:42,986 --> 00:27:45,946
Speaker 2: a tough Seattle team coming in. They're they're flying across

605
00:27:45,986 --> 00:27:50,266
Speaker 2: the country early eastern start, early window, and so you

606
00:27:50,306 --> 00:27:52,866
Speaker 2: have you can't just take this momentum and say, yeah,

607
00:27:52,866 --> 00:27:54,386
Speaker 2: it was a great story, but you got to go

608
00:27:54,426 --> 00:27:56,266
Speaker 2: on and repeat it and repeat it and repeat it.

609
00:27:56,306 --> 00:27:58,866
Speaker 2: And I think they have a formula now, and David

610
00:27:58,946 --> 00:28:00,826
Speaker 2: Andrews hit on. He goes, you know, if we just

611
00:28:00,946 --> 00:28:02,826
Speaker 2: changed two of those fuels and the touchdowns when we

612
00:28:02,866 --> 00:28:05,786
Speaker 2: get in that red area, it's a much larger deficit

613
00:28:06,026 --> 00:28:08,826
Speaker 2: for a team to overcome. So I think they laid

614
00:28:08,986 --> 00:28:11,106
Speaker 2: one brick in that foundation, and they continue to try

615
00:28:11,146 --> 00:28:12,226
Speaker 2: to do that the rest of the year.

616
00:28:12,826 --> 00:28:15,706
Speaker 1: I got some more questions on this current team and

617
00:28:15,746 --> 00:28:19,706
Speaker 1: what we saw on Sunday. So you mentioned the training

618
00:28:19,706 --> 00:28:24,146
Speaker 1: camp in a post twenty twenty CBA World. I feel

619
00:28:24,146 --> 00:28:27,946
Speaker 1: like training camp is almost akin to summer camp in

620
00:28:27,986 --> 00:28:29,826
Speaker 1: a way, where yes, you're going to work out, but

621
00:28:29,866 --> 00:28:31,746
Speaker 1: like everything we heard out of New England was that

622
00:28:32,466 --> 00:28:34,906
Speaker 1: it was the toughest training camp and it was so hard,

623
00:28:34,946 --> 00:28:36,906
Speaker 1: And yet when you watch them on the field on Sunday,

624
00:28:37,266 --> 00:28:40,306
Speaker 1: they're grinding out those extra yards and they're able to

625
00:28:40,306 --> 00:28:43,346
Speaker 1: play at a different pace than maybe Cincinnati was. So

626
00:28:43,626 --> 00:28:46,226
Speaker 1: knowing the barriers of the CBA and there's no more

627
00:28:46,266 --> 00:28:48,586
Speaker 1: two A days and you can't do stuff in certain

628
00:28:48,586 --> 00:28:51,906
Speaker 1: ways with pads. What did Mayo do that is so

629
00:28:51,946 --> 00:28:54,186
Speaker 1: specific that makes this team ready to go and seem

630
00:28:54,186 --> 00:28:55,986
Speaker 1: like they're in midseas informed when their opponent did not

631
00:28:56,026 --> 00:28:56,506
Speaker 1: look like that.

632
00:28:57,106 --> 00:28:59,506
Speaker 2: Well, I think you just preached competition the whole training camp.

633
00:28:59,546 --> 00:29:01,746
Speaker 2: It was like, no matter who's out there, we're competing.

634
00:29:01,786 --> 00:29:03,346
Speaker 2: And then there was a few days where they went

635
00:29:03,386 --> 00:29:05,826
Speaker 2: full live tackling. You know, they went pads a lot

636
00:29:06,466 --> 00:29:08,506
Speaker 2: within the new rules of the CBA. He pushed them

637
00:29:08,506 --> 00:29:11,066
Speaker 2: and then every day, you know, just like we used

638
00:29:11,066 --> 00:29:13,106
Speaker 2: to do with Bill was had they got the hill

639
00:29:13,106 --> 00:29:14,786
Speaker 2: over there, he'd run over the hill and make sure

640
00:29:14,786 --> 00:29:16,346
Speaker 2: they're in shape because a lot of these guys aren't

641
00:29:16,346 --> 00:29:18,226
Speaker 2: playing a lot of plays in the preseason, so you

642
00:29:18,306 --> 00:29:20,626
Speaker 2: got to get them in shape somehow, some way. And

643
00:29:20,666 --> 00:29:22,346
Speaker 2: I think, you know, you see it. I saw a

644
00:29:22,346 --> 00:29:24,146
Speaker 2: few quotes today. Guys want to run through a brick

645
00:29:24,186 --> 00:29:26,986
Speaker 2: wall for Giradimeo. And when guys feel like that about

646
00:29:27,026 --> 00:29:29,506
Speaker 2: your head coach, you can push them as much as

647
00:29:29,506 --> 00:29:32,506
Speaker 2: you want and then to go out there and validate

648
00:29:32,546 --> 00:29:35,466
Speaker 2: that by winning the results on the board, the results,

649
00:29:35,466 --> 00:29:37,466
Speaker 2: and that allows you to push it a little bit

650
00:29:37,466 --> 00:29:40,106
Speaker 2: more and and hold people accountable a little bit more,

651
00:29:40,106 --> 00:29:41,986
Speaker 2: and people buy in a little bit more. And so

652
00:29:42,546 --> 00:29:44,746
Speaker 2: you know, like I said, it's one brick in that foundation.

653
00:29:45,026 --> 00:29:47,706
Speaker 2: And you could see it. You could see the reactions

654
00:29:47,706 --> 00:29:50,226
Speaker 2: in the locker room Girod getting the game ball. One

655
00:29:50,226 --> 00:29:52,506
Speaker 2: thing that struck me was Jacoby Brissette was like, yeah,

656
00:29:52,506 --> 00:29:56,866
Speaker 2: I was emotional, you know, emotional for the opportunity. I cry.

657
00:29:56,986 --> 00:29:58,626
Speaker 2: You know. Girod came up to me and said, hey man,

658
00:29:58,706 --> 00:30:00,226
Speaker 2: I believe in you. You're going to ball out and

659
00:30:00,266 --> 00:30:02,266
Speaker 2: win us this game. He's like I've never really had

660
00:30:02,266 --> 00:30:03,626
Speaker 2: a coach talk to me that way before. And I

661
00:30:03,666 --> 00:30:06,146
Speaker 2: think Girod, being a young guy, a guy who played,

662
00:30:06,546 --> 00:30:09,466
Speaker 2: understands the value of knowing that you know, when the

663
00:30:09,506 --> 00:30:11,906
Speaker 2: players know you care about them, they will they will

664
00:30:11,946 --> 00:30:13,506
Speaker 2: literally run through a brick wall for you.

665
00:30:14,906 --> 00:30:17,786
Speaker 1: There also seems to be this, you know, air of

666
00:30:17,866 --> 00:30:22,026
Speaker 1: secrecy and paranoia and whatever it was under Belichick that

667
00:30:22,066 --> 00:30:25,626
Speaker 1: seems to be lifted. Like Girod talks, he runs his mouth.

668
00:30:25,866 --> 00:30:27,906
Speaker 1: He's free to have these players talk. You can say

669
00:30:27,946 --> 00:30:30,026
Speaker 1: whatever you want. Just be ready to play. Does it

670
00:30:30,026 --> 00:30:33,626
Speaker 1: feel lighter in New England now? Like nothing against coach Belichick,

671
00:30:33,666 --> 00:30:36,586
Speaker 1: but this is a younger generation, and quite frankly, it

672
00:30:36,586 --> 00:30:38,586
Speaker 1: seems like Mayo is connecting with them in a different way.

673
00:30:39,626 --> 00:30:41,506
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent. And I think the one thing,

674
00:30:41,666 --> 00:30:45,026
Speaker 2: you know, when I thought, okay, who replaces Bill the

675
00:30:45,026 --> 00:30:48,386
Speaker 2: greatest coach of all time? Those are tough shoes to

676
00:30:48,386 --> 00:30:50,386
Speaker 2: fill no matter what. And I know the last two years,

677
00:30:50,426 --> 00:30:52,826
Speaker 2: few years weren't what they were, but it's still tough

678
00:30:52,826 --> 00:30:55,466
Speaker 2: because those are the memories you have of coach Belichick.

679
00:30:55,826 --> 00:30:58,066
Speaker 2: But the thing that Girod did, he played for Bill,

680
00:30:58,146 --> 00:31:00,546
Speaker 2: so he knows the culture. He knows, you know, what

681
00:31:00,626 --> 00:31:02,826
Speaker 2: he wants it to be, like he coached under Bill,

682
00:31:03,266 --> 00:31:05,546
Speaker 2: and I think he looked at it like, I know

683
00:31:05,626 --> 00:31:07,026
Speaker 2: what it takes to win, and I've been a part

684
00:31:07,066 --> 00:31:10,626
Speaker 2: of those winning organizations. But times are different. I want

685
00:31:10,626 --> 00:31:12,506
Speaker 2: to put my own spin on it. But I can

686
00:31:12,546 --> 00:31:14,706
Speaker 2: still be tough. I mentioned to him in one of

687
00:31:14,746 --> 00:31:19,026
Speaker 2: our preseason you know meetings, I said, you know, you're

688
00:31:19,066 --> 00:31:20,626
Speaker 2: a player's coach, and he kind of pushed back, and

689
00:31:20,666 --> 00:31:22,146
Speaker 2: they said, I just want to be a good coach.

690
00:31:22,386 --> 00:31:24,346
Speaker 2: And I said, I don't think you're a players coach

691
00:31:24,426 --> 00:31:27,146
Speaker 2: because you're you know, friends with the players, or you

692
00:31:27,186 --> 00:31:28,826
Speaker 2: take it easy on him. I said, you're a player's

693
00:31:28,826 --> 00:31:30,906
Speaker 2: coach because you're a former player. And those guys look

694
00:31:30,946 --> 00:31:32,546
Speaker 2: at you. And when you sit up in front of

695
00:31:32,586 --> 00:31:35,826
Speaker 2: a group a team meeting and you address them, no

696
00:31:35,866 --> 00:31:37,946
Speaker 2: one's questioning, like, man, this guy's never been through it.

697
00:31:37,986 --> 00:31:39,586
Speaker 2: He doesn't know what he's talking about. And there's a

698
00:31:39,586 --> 00:31:42,026
Speaker 2: lot of great coaches who never played. But I think

699
00:31:42,266 --> 00:31:44,706
Speaker 2: you talk about a younger generation and they come in

700
00:31:44,746 --> 00:31:46,586
Speaker 2: and they say, wow, this guy was an All Pro player,

701
00:31:46,626 --> 00:31:49,826
Speaker 2: he was a captain. You know right away you grab

702
00:31:49,906 --> 00:31:51,986
Speaker 2: some of these young guys attention, it's different era guys

703
00:31:52,026 --> 00:31:54,226
Speaker 2: coming in with Nio money. We had guys out in

704
00:31:54,266 --> 00:31:56,186
Speaker 2: Vegas last year who took a pay cut to come

705
00:31:56,186 --> 00:31:59,586
Speaker 2: play for the Raiders. So it's just a different you know,

706
00:31:59,666 --> 00:32:02,786
Speaker 2: mentality and these players, you know, they come in and

707
00:32:02,946 --> 00:32:05,306
Speaker 2: that's the times that we're living in. And I think

708
00:32:06,066 --> 00:32:09,266
Speaker 2: that with young guys, and we talked about it before,

709
00:32:09,626 --> 00:32:11,506
Speaker 2: Now they'll believe them a little bit more. They'll they'll

710
00:32:11,506 --> 00:32:13,546
Speaker 2: buy in a little bit more, and they'll they'll work

711
00:32:13,586 --> 00:32:15,586
Speaker 2: a little bit harder. And that doesn't mean they're going

712
00:32:15,666 --> 00:32:17,226
Speaker 2: to go to the playoffs and win the super Bowl.

713
00:32:17,226 --> 00:32:20,986
Speaker 2: But a lot of times, you know, with organizations and transition,

714
00:32:21,746 --> 00:32:25,226
Speaker 2: building the foundation, sometimes it might take a seven and

715
00:32:25,346 --> 00:32:28,826
Speaker 2: nine year and and Ayton nine year whatever it is.

716
00:32:29,106 --> 00:32:31,946
Speaker 2: But then in year two you've built that foundation and

717
00:32:31,986 --> 00:32:34,186
Speaker 2: you you stack them together and you're in the playoffs

718
00:32:34,186 --> 00:32:35,466
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden you're making a run

719
00:32:35,506 --> 00:32:37,706
Speaker 2: for it. So you know, a lot like I look

720
00:32:37,706 --> 00:32:40,786
Speaker 2: at the Houston Texans, a sneaky team, a young quarterback.

721
00:32:40,786 --> 00:32:43,786
Speaker 2: They've Nick Casseroo done a tremendous job, obviously a former

722
00:32:43,906 --> 00:32:47,826
Speaker 2: New England guy, building a unit around a rookie quarterback

723
00:32:47,866 --> 00:32:49,906
Speaker 2: before you've got to go pay them this massive extension

724
00:32:49,906 --> 00:32:52,666
Speaker 2: and make a run at it. And they a similar situation,

725
00:32:52,746 --> 00:32:55,706
Speaker 2: a young defensive minded coach who played a lot of

726
00:32:55,946 --> 00:32:58,586
Speaker 2: great football on Demico Ryans and I think you're starting

727
00:32:58,626 --> 00:33:00,866
Speaker 2: to see kind of that model, you know, Dan Campbell

728
00:33:00,866 --> 00:33:04,946
Speaker 2: and Detroit. It's kind of out there in Las Vegas

729
00:33:04,986 --> 00:33:08,386
Speaker 2: where I was here to say, and so you know,

730
00:33:08,826 --> 00:33:11,786
Speaker 2: that doesn't necessarily make you a great coach. I think

731
00:33:12,026 --> 00:33:14,506
Speaker 2: Girad benefits not only from being a former player, but

732
00:33:14,546 --> 00:33:18,306
Speaker 2: also learning from Bill not only as the player, but

733
00:33:18,346 --> 00:33:20,426
Speaker 2: also he was in those coaching meetings for the past

734
00:33:20,426 --> 00:33:22,986
Speaker 2: four years, so he's seen it from both sides and

735
00:33:23,026 --> 00:33:25,026
Speaker 2: learned from Bill and now is taking you know, what

736
00:33:25,106 --> 00:33:27,866
Speaker 2: he learned and putting his own spin and flavor on it.

737
00:33:27,906 --> 00:33:29,426
Speaker 2: And you can see the guys really.

738
00:33:29,186 --> 00:33:38,386
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, no doubt rapping with the Patriots. I think

739
00:33:38,386 --> 00:33:42,066
Speaker 1: it's interesting that they came out and they performed that way.

740
00:33:42,026 --> 00:33:45,506
Speaker 1: You know Brissette really well. Obviously having been you know,

741
00:33:45,546 --> 00:33:48,586
Speaker 1: Patriots quarterback and yourself having such a connection to the team,

742
00:33:49,106 --> 00:33:50,666
Speaker 1: have you had a chance to get to know Drake

743
00:33:50,706 --> 00:33:52,546
Speaker 1: May at all for the Patriots fans listening, just a

744
00:33:52,546 --> 00:33:54,746
Speaker 1: little sprinkle of maybe what we can see with Drake

745
00:33:54,786 --> 00:33:56,746
Speaker 1: May down the line. Yeah.

746
00:33:56,746 --> 00:33:58,346
Speaker 2: I mean I had him in one production meeting and

747
00:33:58,986 --> 00:34:00,946
Speaker 2: you know, he comes in, says all the right things,

748
00:34:01,066 --> 00:34:03,826
Speaker 2: is working hard. You know, talk to Alex van Pelt

749
00:34:03,826 --> 00:34:05,946
Speaker 2: about him. You know, he's doing everything and more that

750
00:34:05,986 --> 00:34:10,506
Speaker 2: they're asked of him, you know, with talking about technology

751
00:34:10,546 --> 00:34:13,706
Speaker 2: and this generation, this Apple Vision pro if someone's developed

752
00:34:13,826 --> 00:34:15,746
Speaker 2: a three D model that these guys can go in

753
00:34:15,786 --> 00:34:17,306
Speaker 2: and take extra rep So I know he's doing a

754
00:34:17,346 --> 00:34:19,306
Speaker 2: lot of that in this car time and yeah, it's

755
00:34:19,346 --> 00:34:22,306
Speaker 2: really cool. So you know, he's working really hard. And

756
00:34:22,306 --> 00:34:24,666
Speaker 2: the one thing that I've always said is, and Tom

757
00:34:24,706 --> 00:34:26,746
Speaker 2: Brady kind of echoed this, it's always good for a

758
00:34:26,746 --> 00:34:28,306
Speaker 2: young guy if you can come in and learn from

759
00:34:28,306 --> 00:34:31,066
Speaker 2: a really good veteran. And I had the privilege to

760
00:34:31,066 --> 00:34:33,026
Speaker 2: come in and watch Tom for my first four years

761
00:34:33,026 --> 00:34:35,306
Speaker 2: of my career and just soak it all in. And

762
00:34:35,586 --> 00:34:38,506
Speaker 2: I think, you know, say what you want about Jacoby,

763
00:34:38,506 --> 00:34:42,066
Speaker 2: but he's been a successful quarterback. He's you know, nine

764
00:34:42,106 --> 00:34:45,866
Speaker 2: seasons in, he started for multiple teams, and he does

765
00:34:45,866 --> 00:34:47,186
Speaker 2: it the right way. I was there with him in

766
00:34:47,186 --> 00:34:49,266
Speaker 2: Indianapolis when that was his first year as a starter,

767
00:34:49,386 --> 00:34:52,346
Speaker 2: Andrew Luck, you know, suddenly retires. I thought there to

768
00:34:52,386 --> 00:34:54,586
Speaker 2: be his backup, and immediately from day one, he was

769
00:34:54,626 --> 00:34:57,226
Speaker 2: a leader on that team. He ran the meetings, He

770
00:34:57,266 --> 00:34:59,306
Speaker 2: had good meetings with the receivers and they were on

771
00:34:59,346 --> 00:35:01,826
Speaker 2: the same page. And I think, you know, just seeing

772
00:35:01,866 --> 00:35:04,026
Speaker 2: that from a pro and coming in every day and

773
00:35:04,066 --> 00:35:06,226
Speaker 2: seeing how Jacoby's going to prepare and all those things

774
00:35:06,226 --> 00:35:08,546
Speaker 2: that will do wonders for drake Ma and his career

775
00:35:08,546 --> 00:35:11,066
Speaker 2: if he just sits there, you know, uses this time

776
00:35:11,106 --> 00:35:13,026
Speaker 2: to not only make himself better, but see how a

777
00:35:13,106 --> 00:35:14,666
Speaker 2: real pro approaches the game.

778
00:35:15,106 --> 00:35:17,066
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, I'm going to give you some names. I

779
00:35:17,066 --> 00:35:19,746
Speaker 1: would like some rapid fire, your best story. You didn't

780
00:35:19,746 --> 00:35:23,506
Speaker 1: prepare yourself for this, but I love stories. Okay, we

781
00:35:23,586 --> 00:35:26,306
Speaker 1: had the roast, but I'm sure there's a story that

782
00:35:26,346 --> 00:35:30,066
Speaker 1: hasn't been told. Your funniest Tom Brady's story. What do

783
00:35:30,106 --> 00:35:30,786
Speaker 1: you got?

784
00:35:31,386 --> 00:35:33,386
Speaker 2: Oh man? I think one thing that comes to mind.

785
00:35:33,546 --> 00:35:35,706
Speaker 2: And another guy who's in you know, a hot topic

786
00:35:35,786 --> 00:35:37,626
Speaker 2: right now is Bill O'Brien And we used to call

787
00:35:37,706 --> 00:35:41,026
Speaker 2: him the teapot and literally, you know, we never knew

788
00:35:41,026 --> 00:35:43,026
Speaker 2: when Billy was going to fly off the handle. And

789
00:35:43,346 --> 00:35:45,986
Speaker 2: there was one time where these two and I know

790
00:35:46,266 --> 00:35:48,826
Speaker 2: a lot's been shown of this, this back and forth

791
00:35:48,866 --> 00:35:51,746
Speaker 2: on the sideline when Tom throws an interception and he's

792
00:35:51,826 --> 00:35:54,306
Speaker 2: kind of getting after Taekwon Underwood, who's a receiver coach

793
00:35:54,346 --> 00:35:57,066
Speaker 2: here now in New England, and these two going after it,

794
00:35:57,106 --> 00:35:58,546
Speaker 2: and I have like one of the big coats. It

795
00:35:58,586 --> 00:36:00,146
Speaker 2: was a cold day and I'm trying to shield them.

796
00:36:00,346 --> 00:36:02,666
Speaker 2: But we had this teapot and every day we'd come

797
00:36:02,666 --> 00:36:03,986
Speaker 2: in and be like, all right, Billy, you're on the

798
00:36:04,026 --> 00:36:06,306
Speaker 2: teapot again, and we'd write it down and we still

799
00:36:06,306 --> 00:36:07,866
Speaker 2: have it. It's like a trophy and it's like the

800
00:36:07,906 --> 00:36:09,546
Speaker 2: Stanley Cup. And by the end of the year, the

801
00:36:09,546 --> 00:36:12,066
Speaker 2: whole teapot was filled. And so we had so many

802
00:36:12,066 --> 00:36:15,266
Speaker 2: great times. I mean, for me, you know, I don't

803
00:36:15,266 --> 00:36:17,226
Speaker 2: know if my career goes fifteen years if I don't

804
00:36:17,226 --> 00:36:19,426
Speaker 2: spend those first four years, you know, learning from him.

805
00:36:19,426 --> 00:36:21,426
Speaker 2: And then you know, I had the unique experience to

806
00:36:21,466 --> 00:36:24,146
Speaker 2: come back and be here, you know, at his last

807
00:36:24,226 --> 00:36:26,826
Speaker 2: years in New England, and and just garner that friendship

808
00:36:26,866 --> 00:36:30,586
Speaker 2: and relationship. But those were some great times with Bill O'Brien,

809
00:36:30,706 --> 00:36:32,786
Speaker 2: just you know, kind of always you know, right on

810
00:36:32,826 --> 00:36:34,746
Speaker 2: each other's cage, seeing what we could get out of it,

811
00:36:34,786 --> 00:36:36,306
Speaker 2: and had some great moments there.

812
00:36:36,706 --> 00:36:40,066
Speaker 1: What about Brady's level of celebrity, Like this is the

813
00:36:40,106 --> 00:36:42,026
Speaker 1: most famous man in the world, and yet you guys

814
00:36:42,066 --> 00:36:44,946
Speaker 1: were at a workplace together and often wearing sweatpants and

815
00:36:44,986 --> 00:36:47,426
Speaker 1: T shirts, like when you would go out into the public.

816
00:36:47,506 --> 00:36:49,466
Speaker 1: What was it like being around Brady the rock star?

817
00:36:50,586 --> 00:36:52,266
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was crazy. I mean I remember one time

818
00:36:52,306 --> 00:36:54,346
Speaker 2: at the super Bowl in Indianapolis, we were having like

819
00:36:54,346 --> 00:36:57,666
Speaker 2: a team dinner at Saint Elmos and just trying to

820
00:36:57,746 --> 00:36:59,306
Speaker 2: you know, riding over with him, trying to get in

821
00:36:59,346 --> 00:37:01,946
Speaker 2: and the amount of people there. And one time, you know,

822
00:37:02,026 --> 00:37:05,466
Speaker 2: right when I came back in twenty seventeen, our first

823
00:37:05,466 --> 00:37:07,186
Speaker 2: game was out in Den and then we were going

824
00:37:07,186 --> 00:37:09,386
Speaker 2: to Mexico City, So we spent the week in between

825
00:37:09,426 --> 00:37:11,586
Speaker 2: and Colorado Springs and it was Friday night. You know,

826
00:37:11,906 --> 00:37:13,266
Speaker 2: there wasn't a ton to do, but you want to

827
00:37:13,306 --> 00:37:14,706
Speaker 2: go and get away from football a little bit. So

828
00:37:14,706 --> 00:37:17,026
Speaker 2: we went to go see a movie and that was me,

829
00:37:17,226 --> 00:37:19,986
Speaker 2: Tom and Alex Guerrero and Alex had rented like a

830
00:37:19,986 --> 00:37:22,306
Speaker 2: little Mustang, so it's the three of us I'm in

831
00:37:22,346 --> 00:37:24,946
Speaker 2: the back seat, like sideways, and we go in the

832
00:37:24,946 --> 00:37:28,906
Speaker 2: movie and and Tom was, you know, very you know

833
00:37:28,906 --> 00:37:29,346
Speaker 2: what movie?

834
00:37:29,346 --> 00:37:30,026
Speaker 1: What are we talking about?

835
00:37:30,066 --> 00:37:32,946
Speaker 2: I think it was I think it was Justice League,

836
00:37:32,946 --> 00:37:38,866
Speaker 2: one of the DC superhero leads at the time been out. Yeah, yeah,

837
00:37:38,866 --> 00:37:41,186
Speaker 2: I think so, one of those. And uh, and you know,

838
00:37:41,226 --> 00:37:43,266
Speaker 2: but Tom was very you know, casual, put his head

839
00:37:43,266 --> 00:37:45,386
Speaker 2: down and you know, kind of he's like, you guys,

840
00:37:45,386 --> 00:37:46,906
Speaker 2: get the tickets, I'll meet you by the entry. And

841
00:37:46,946 --> 00:37:49,306
Speaker 2: no one, no one really knew, but somehow someone must

842
00:37:49,346 --> 00:37:51,746
Speaker 2: have recognized him, because by the time we got out,

843
00:37:52,026 --> 00:37:54,706
Speaker 2: there was just people waiting for for us, you know,

844
00:37:54,746 --> 00:37:57,946
Speaker 2: for him. When we walked out, and he's like, come on,

845
00:37:57,946 --> 00:37:59,546
Speaker 2: we got to get in the car quick. And while

846
00:37:59,586 --> 00:38:02,506
Speaker 2: the movie had been playing, it started snowing, so they're like, hoy,

847
00:38:02,546 --> 00:38:04,426
Speaker 2: you take the keys and drive. Alex gets better in

848
00:38:04,426 --> 00:38:06,266
Speaker 2: the back seat and I'm like, oh my god, like

849
00:38:06,306 --> 00:38:09,706
Speaker 2: I'm driving this two wheel drive Mustang in the snow

850
00:38:09,706 --> 00:38:12,506
Speaker 2: and get a car. Yeah yeah, but getaway car. And

851
00:38:12,906 --> 00:38:14,906
Speaker 2: literally people are following us back to the hotel, and

852
00:38:15,266 --> 00:38:18,106
Speaker 2: it's just it just shows it's a different lifestyle, different level.

853
00:38:18,146 --> 00:38:20,306
Speaker 2: But he handles it so well. And and I think

854
00:38:20,466 --> 00:38:22,266
Speaker 2: the one thing that he always enjoyed and he talked

855
00:38:22,306 --> 00:38:24,626
Speaker 2: about it even at his Hall of Fame induction here

856
00:38:24,666 --> 00:38:26,586
Speaker 2: in Fox Rows. Just when he came in, he just

857
00:38:26,626 --> 00:38:28,226
Speaker 2: got to be one of the guys. And that's what,

858
00:38:28,546 --> 00:38:30,546
Speaker 2: you know, it was so great about him, and we

859
00:38:30,626 --> 00:38:33,146
Speaker 2: kept him humble, and we cracked jokes on him, and

860
00:38:33,266 --> 00:38:37,346
Speaker 2: Julian was always Julian always had something to crack on time.

861
00:38:37,386 --> 00:38:39,226
Speaker 2: And I think I think that's what, you know, made

862
00:38:39,266 --> 00:38:41,226
Speaker 2: him love it even more because he came in and

863
00:38:41,346 --> 00:38:43,666
Speaker 2: you know what it was going out on around outside,

864
00:38:43,826 --> 00:38:45,466
Speaker 2: but when he came in, he was one of fifty

865
00:38:45,466 --> 00:38:47,666
Speaker 2: three guys and we were all, you know, working towards

866
00:38:47,666 --> 00:38:49,946
Speaker 2: the same goal, and that was you know, that was

867
00:38:49,946 --> 00:38:50,506
Speaker 2: pretty cool.

868
00:38:50,866 --> 00:38:52,866
Speaker 1: What about Edelman when he first got there, I can't

869
00:38:52,866 --> 00:38:54,786
Speaker 1: imagine him being the same guy as when he left.

870
00:38:54,786 --> 00:38:57,226
Speaker 1: He had to come in as like scrappy and humble

871
00:38:57,266 --> 00:38:59,626
Speaker 1: as a seventh round pick and maybe a quarterback, maybe

872
00:38:59,626 --> 00:39:01,746
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. But like I work with him now,

873
00:39:01,826 --> 00:39:05,106
Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest personalities, confident as anyone I've

874
00:39:05,106 --> 00:39:06,946
Speaker 1: ever met. But like I can't imagine coming in with

875
00:39:06,946 --> 00:39:10,226
Speaker 1: that bravado when he first got there was he.

876
00:39:09,466 --> 00:39:11,386
Speaker 2: He always loves to tell the story that because we

877
00:39:11,466 --> 00:39:13,426
Speaker 2: came in together and he was a seventh round pick

878
00:39:13,426 --> 00:39:17,146
Speaker 2: and I was undrafted. And by the end of that draft,

879
00:39:17,186 --> 00:39:19,106
Speaker 2: I wasn't even watching, so I remember, you know, my

880
00:39:19,146 --> 00:39:21,186
Speaker 2: agent called me. He's like, hey, they drafted this guy's

881
00:39:21,186 --> 00:39:22,706
Speaker 2: a quarterback. But I don't. I mean, he's not really

882
00:39:22,746 --> 00:39:24,546
Speaker 2: an NFL quarterback, so you don't really need to worry

883
00:39:24,546 --> 00:39:26,866
Speaker 2: about him. And so then, you know, Julian loves to

884
00:39:26,906 --> 00:39:28,506
Speaker 2: tell the story. He was at Kent State and I

885
00:39:28,626 --> 00:39:30,226
Speaker 2: was coming from Cleveland, so we were on the same

886
00:39:30,226 --> 00:39:33,186
Speaker 2: flight together, and I'm like, this guy ain't playing quarterback.

887
00:39:33,506 --> 00:39:35,146
Speaker 2: A little did I know he was going to become,

888
00:39:35,226 --> 00:39:38,506
Speaker 2: you know, the most productive NFL receiver in playoff history.

889
00:39:39,466 --> 00:39:41,266
Speaker 2: But we used to, you know, we were just guys

890
00:39:41,266 --> 00:39:43,586
Speaker 2: trying to make the team, and so at night we

891
00:39:43,626 --> 00:39:45,786
Speaker 2: would go come back from training camp and we'd be studying.

892
00:39:45,826 --> 00:39:47,986
Speaker 2: I'd be calling plays and Julian would be, you know,

893
00:39:48,106 --> 00:39:49,906
Speaker 2: lining up in the hotel room and we'd go get

894
00:39:49,906 --> 00:39:52,546
Speaker 2: extra reps in the bubble. And really, you know, Julian

895
00:39:52,626 --> 00:39:54,386
Speaker 2: was kind of a late bloomer in a sense because

896
00:39:54,426 --> 00:39:56,746
Speaker 2: it kind of took four or five years. It was

897
00:39:56,786 --> 00:39:59,426
Speaker 2: really after I left that Julian kind of became the guy.

898
00:39:59,466 --> 00:40:03,226
Speaker 2: You know. Welker moved on to Denver and Julian notoriously,

899
00:40:03,346 --> 00:40:05,426
Speaker 2: you know, followed Tom around, was like, hey, I'm here

900
00:40:05,466 --> 00:40:07,306
Speaker 2: if you need me to catch for you. And it

901
00:40:07,306 --> 00:40:10,066
Speaker 2: all paid off. And that was Julian's kind of relentlessness,

902
00:40:11,066 --> 00:40:13,666
Speaker 2: you know, finding its way through there. And and but

903
00:40:13,746 --> 00:40:16,266
Speaker 2: it's funny. I remember when we were rookies. You know,

904
00:40:16,306 --> 00:40:18,186
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to learn the playbook and understand what

905
00:40:18,186 --> 00:40:19,586
Speaker 2: I was supposed to do, and we break the huddle

906
00:40:19,626 --> 00:40:21,386
Speaker 2: and he sometimes he looked at me like, hey, what

907
00:40:21,426 --> 00:40:23,386
Speaker 2: do I got? And I'd be like alpha blueau and

908
00:40:23,426 --> 00:40:26,666
Speaker 2: I'm like you figure it out about all, that's right.

909
00:40:26,986 --> 00:40:28,786
Speaker 2: So but we had some late night walk throughs in

910
00:40:28,786 --> 00:40:32,426
Speaker 2: that hotel, the residence in Foxborough, and you know, like

911
00:40:32,466 --> 00:40:34,186
Speaker 2: I said, I had a unique perspective. I was here

912
00:40:34,226 --> 00:40:36,986
Speaker 2: four years, gone for a few came back and you

913
00:40:36,986 --> 00:40:39,826
Speaker 2: know that in that short time, Julian became a leader

914
00:40:39,866 --> 00:40:41,786
Speaker 2: on the team, a go to guy. One of these

915
00:40:41,826 --> 00:40:44,426
Speaker 2: guys who really you know, was mister New England. And

916
00:40:44,466 --> 00:40:47,186
Speaker 2: so you know, it's always it's always fun to reminisce

917
00:40:47,226 --> 00:40:49,266
Speaker 2: of you know, the times before you know he was

918
00:40:49,346 --> 00:40:52,826
Speaker 2: big time, but he was you know, you always saw

919
00:40:52,866 --> 00:40:55,626
Speaker 2: that he had the work ethic and and wasn't going

920
00:40:55,666 --> 00:40:57,186
Speaker 2: to let any opportunity pass him by.

921
00:40:57,746 --> 00:41:00,266
Speaker 1: About Gronk, do you have a good Gronk story out

922
00:41:00,306 --> 00:41:02,346
Speaker 1: in the town with Gronk or just living the life

923
00:41:02,346 --> 00:41:04,466
Speaker 1: of Gronk, Because I think he's one of the biggest

924
00:41:04,466 --> 00:41:06,026
Speaker 1: person Outi's this sport has ever seen.

925
00:41:06,826 --> 00:41:08,666
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, Gronk's just to me is just that

926
00:41:08,706 --> 00:41:11,546
Speaker 2: big kid who just loves loves playing football, loves life.

927
00:41:11,586 --> 00:41:13,626
Speaker 2: And I think a lot is made like, oh, he's

928
00:41:13,626 --> 00:41:16,666
Speaker 2: this big meathead. He's one of the most sweet gentle guys.

929
00:41:16,746 --> 00:41:19,866
Speaker 2: I mean, we saw him recently at Tom's Hall of

930
00:41:19,906 --> 00:41:23,146
Speaker 2: Fame induction here and he came up to my wife

931
00:41:23,146 --> 00:41:24,626
Speaker 2: and he's like, I'll never forget you know, when he

932
00:41:24,666 --> 00:41:26,946
Speaker 2: got hurt the one year you know he's living on

933
00:41:26,986 --> 00:41:29,146
Speaker 2: his own, we offered him, we cooked him. He's like,

934
00:41:29,186 --> 00:41:31,586
Speaker 2: I'll never forget you made me that lasagna that one

935
00:41:31,586 --> 00:41:33,906
Speaker 2: time when I when I was hurt. And it's like, wow,

936
00:41:33,986 --> 00:41:35,946
Speaker 2: like I kind of forgot about that, but just it

937
00:41:36,026 --> 00:41:37,786
Speaker 2: just shows you the type of person he is, and

938
00:41:38,146 --> 00:41:39,906
Speaker 2: you know, I talk about it's been pretty cool for

939
00:41:40,066 --> 00:41:43,186
Speaker 2: my son to kind of grow up around these guys.

940
00:41:43,226 --> 00:41:45,466
Speaker 2: And I have a great picture we were coming back

941
00:41:45,466 --> 00:41:48,266
Speaker 2: from Tom's retirement party and they're on the front of

942
00:41:48,266 --> 00:41:51,466
Speaker 2: the boat. You talk about the trio, Gronk Edelman and

943
00:41:51,506 --> 00:41:54,786
Speaker 2: Ammondola and right sandwich between those those three who are

944
00:41:55,226 --> 00:41:57,546
Speaker 2: recovering from the night before. As my son just laying

945
00:41:57,586 --> 00:42:00,146
Speaker 2: there next to these guys, and but they're so you know,

946
00:42:00,266 --> 00:42:03,466
Speaker 2: so genuine. And he knew right away when Rob came

947
00:42:03,586 --> 00:42:06,826
Speaker 2: that this is a once in a lifetime player. I mean,

948
00:42:07,306 --> 00:42:09,266
Speaker 2: I've played long enough that you go out on the

949
00:42:09,266 --> 00:42:11,266
Speaker 2: field and you're like, this guy was built to play football.

950
00:42:11,426 --> 00:42:14,386
Speaker 2: Rob was one of those guys, Calvin Johnson, Julius Pepper's,

951
00:42:14,466 --> 00:42:17,586
Speaker 2: JJ Watt, Derrick Henry. You go out there and you're like, man,

952
00:42:17,746 --> 00:42:19,026
Speaker 2: am I really playing the same.

953
00:42:18,826 --> 00:42:20,826
Speaker 1: Sport as we got the same species? Yeah?

954
00:42:21,106 --> 00:42:24,466
Speaker 2: Right, But I'll never forget I actually got to throw

955
00:42:24,546 --> 00:42:27,546
Speaker 2: him his first touchdown pass in the season. Yeah. I

956
00:42:27,586 --> 00:42:29,626
Speaker 2: mean it wasn't regular season, but in the preseason I

957
00:42:29,666 --> 00:42:32,906
Speaker 2: threw him a seam and I remember thinking, like I

958
00:42:32,946 --> 00:42:35,186
Speaker 2: came off the play action and I looked and I'm like, wow,

959
00:42:35,946 --> 00:42:38,146
Speaker 2: he's thirty yards away. It looks like he's ten yards away,

960
00:42:38,186 --> 00:42:41,266
Speaker 2: this huge, massive target and he always brings that up.

961
00:42:41,306 --> 00:42:43,786
Speaker 2: And then another one. I actually threw him his pass

962
00:42:43,826 --> 00:42:46,226
Speaker 2: to set the tight end record for receiving yards because

963
00:42:46,746 --> 00:42:48,546
Speaker 2: it was at the end of the twenty eleven season

964
00:42:49,026 --> 00:42:51,026
Speaker 2: and it was Jimmy Graham and him were going back

965
00:42:51,066 --> 00:42:54,106
Speaker 2: and forth, back and forth, and we're kind of monitoring,

966
00:42:54,426 --> 00:42:56,146
Speaker 2: monitoring it during the game and it was kind of

967
00:42:56,186 --> 00:42:57,746
Speaker 2: a blowout and I was in there kind of running

968
00:42:57,746 --> 00:43:00,466
Speaker 2: out the clock, and all of a sudden, Bill O'Brien's like, hey,

969
00:43:00,666 --> 00:43:04,026
Speaker 2: Gronk needs five yards to set the record. Is okay?

970
00:43:04,186 --> 00:43:06,026
Speaker 1: We always think that? Does that? What exist?

971
00:43:06,546 --> 00:43:08,306
Speaker 2: Yeah? And you would not think with Bill, but Bill

972
00:43:08,386 --> 00:43:11,066
Speaker 2: was on top of it. He knew. And they're like,

973
00:43:11,106 --> 00:43:12,546
Speaker 2: we're just gonna send him out there and let him

974
00:43:12,586 --> 00:43:14,946
Speaker 2: just run a five yard hitch, just throw it to him. Well,

975
00:43:15,226 --> 00:43:18,386
Speaker 2: a five yard hitch versus press coverage converts and that's

976
00:43:18,786 --> 00:43:20,986
Speaker 2: usually a route that a tight end would run. So

977
00:43:21,106 --> 00:43:23,186
Speaker 2: I'm like under center, I'm like, oh my god, it's press.

978
00:43:23,226 --> 00:43:24,786
Speaker 2: Is he going to know what to do? And you

979
00:43:24,866 --> 00:43:27,186
Speaker 2: go back and I kind of double clutch it, he

980
00:43:27,866 --> 00:43:29,946
Speaker 2: converts it, I throw a fade, he gets his speed down,

981
00:43:29,986 --> 00:43:31,866
Speaker 2: which was even that was kind of questionable. So we

982
00:43:31,866 --> 00:43:33,466
Speaker 2: had to get to the line of scrimmage and snapped

983
00:43:33,466 --> 00:43:35,626
Speaker 2: the next play just to make sure a got in

984
00:43:35,666 --> 00:43:36,346
Speaker 2: the record books.

985
00:43:37,386 --> 00:43:39,826
Speaker 1: And he did it all right. A few more because

986
00:43:39,986 --> 00:43:41,306
Speaker 1: I don't know if you overlapped with him, and I

987
00:43:41,306 --> 00:43:43,306
Speaker 1: don't like the resumes out here, but I think when

988
00:43:43,626 --> 00:43:46,586
Speaker 1: you see these these clips online, if people just naming

989
00:43:46,666 --> 00:43:49,306
Speaker 1: random athletes from like different generations, I think one day

990
00:43:49,346 --> 00:43:53,386
Speaker 1: someone's just going to say Jimmy Garoppolo and everyone's gonna say, yeah,

991
00:43:53,426 --> 00:43:55,426
Speaker 1: Jimmy went to a super Bowl and Jimmy was with

992
00:43:55,466 --> 00:43:57,426
Speaker 1: the Patriot won Super Bowl. It's like, did you ever

993
00:43:57,466 --> 00:43:59,386
Speaker 1: overlap with Jimmy? What kind of guy is Jimmy? Because

994
00:43:59,386 --> 00:44:01,266
Speaker 1: I think he's also one of these people that you

995
00:44:01,346 --> 00:44:03,546
Speaker 1: project he's just like Hollywood playboy. But every time I've

996
00:44:03,586 --> 00:44:04,986
Speaker 1: dealt with him, that is not the case.

997
00:44:05,506 --> 00:44:07,426
Speaker 2: Yeah, not the case. So Jimmy and I have had

998
00:44:07,426 --> 00:44:09,986
Speaker 2: an interesting dance. We actually were traded for each other,

999
00:44:10,386 --> 00:44:12,106
Speaker 2: which that's even a long story because I get a

1000
00:44:12,106 --> 00:44:13,666
Speaker 2: call from Kyle He's like, hey, we're trading you back

1001
00:44:13,706 --> 00:44:15,746
Speaker 2: to New England. And I was like, what, I'm out

1002
00:44:15,826 --> 00:44:18,026
Speaker 2: buying a Halloween costume with my son. He's like, yeah,

1003
00:44:18,026 --> 00:44:20,186
Speaker 2: they're trading us, Jimmy, and Bill wants you to go back,

1004
00:44:20,226 --> 00:44:21,826
Speaker 2: and I was like all right, cool. And then you

1005
00:44:21,866 --> 00:44:23,426
Speaker 2: get the call there that night and Bill's like, look,

1006
00:44:23,466 --> 00:44:25,466
Speaker 2: I mean we're going to trade for you, but like

1007
00:44:25,506 --> 00:44:27,586
Speaker 2: it would really benefit you and us if you just

1008
00:44:27,706 --> 00:44:29,666
Speaker 2: like ask them to release you and come sign it.

1009
00:44:29,866 --> 00:44:32,026
Speaker 2: Come come here and sign you, because you know, like

1010
00:44:32,786 --> 00:44:35,906
Speaker 2: compensory competitory picks. And I'm like, all right, Bill, whatever,

1011
00:44:35,946 --> 00:44:38,386
Speaker 2: and that's fine. So we kind of crossed, you know,

1012
00:44:38,586 --> 00:44:42,866
Speaker 2: coasts in that in that trade, and then met him

1013
00:44:42,866 --> 00:44:45,226
Speaker 2: at the Derby a few years later, and then oddly

1014
00:44:45,306 --> 00:44:47,626
Speaker 2: enough last year we end up being teammates in Vegas

1015
00:44:47,666 --> 00:44:51,226
Speaker 2: and yeah, you said, everyone has this Hollywood heart throb

1016
00:44:51,466 --> 00:44:54,386
Speaker 2: kind of view of Jimmy, and he's really just this sweet,

1017
00:44:54,426 --> 00:44:56,506
Speaker 2: gentle guy, and you know, he's got these looks and

1018
00:44:56,706 --> 00:44:58,306
Speaker 2: he would always try to get me to do abs

1019
00:44:58,346 --> 00:44:59,866
Speaker 2: with them at the end of the day and I'm like, Jimmy,

1020
00:45:00,106 --> 00:45:02,466
Speaker 2: I've been married for fourteen years, Like you're still out

1021
00:45:02,506 --> 00:45:05,106
Speaker 2: on the prow I'm good. I don't need that. I'm

1022
00:45:05,146 --> 00:45:07,466
Speaker 2: going home to my wife and she doesn't care if

1023
00:45:07,506 --> 00:45:10,866
Speaker 2: I have abs or not. But I remember, yeah, I

1024
00:45:10,866 --> 00:45:13,506
Speaker 2: had the dad bod, like like Mahomes and he's got

1025
00:45:13,626 --> 00:45:15,626
Speaker 2: the anti dad bod. But you know, when you got

1026
00:45:15,666 --> 00:45:17,746
Speaker 2: to live up to that that persona, you got to

1027
00:45:17,786 --> 00:45:18,306
Speaker 2: have the look.

1028
00:45:20,586 --> 00:45:22,946
Speaker 1: I think it's it's actually interesting because I go through

1029
00:45:22,986 --> 00:45:25,746
Speaker 1: your career college, you were the starter, and if I'm

1030
00:45:25,746 --> 00:45:27,586
Speaker 1: not mistaken, Kirk Cousins was the backup.

1031
00:45:27,986 --> 00:45:29,986
Speaker 2: Well, my junior year, Nick Foles was my backup and

1032
00:45:29,986 --> 00:45:32,386
Speaker 2: then he in a transfer to Arizona, and my senior year,

1033
00:45:32,466 --> 00:45:34,666
Speaker 2: Kirk was the backup. So we had a pretty good

1034
00:45:34,746 --> 00:45:37,306
Speaker 2: quarterback room my junior year and then you know, I

1035
00:45:37,426 --> 00:45:39,666
Speaker 2: left and then eventually Kirk ended up taking over over

1036
00:45:39,666 --> 00:45:40,466
Speaker 2: there in Michigan State.

1037
00:45:40,506 --> 00:45:42,986
Speaker 1: That's a young college aged Kirk Cousins like.

1038
00:45:44,146 --> 00:45:46,826
Speaker 2: Oh man, exactly what you see now just a little

1039
00:45:46,826 --> 00:45:50,026
Speaker 2: bit less. I mean, Kirk was just, you know, right

1040
00:45:50,106 --> 00:45:52,506
Speaker 2: by the book, exactly what you would expect from him.

1041
00:45:52,586 --> 00:45:55,106
Speaker 2: You know, kind of he calls it his dad, you know,

1042
00:45:55,386 --> 00:45:58,666
Speaker 2: dork swag or whatever. But imagine that before he was

1043
00:45:58,666 --> 00:46:00,786
Speaker 2: a dad, he was even he was even more so.

1044
00:46:01,306 --> 00:46:03,466
Speaker 2: But you know, he worked hard, and you know he's

1045
00:46:03,466 --> 00:46:05,426
Speaker 2: had a tremendous career. I mean you look at what

1046
00:46:05,546 --> 00:46:07,986
Speaker 2: you know, he was like a one star recruit, didn't

1047
00:46:07,986 --> 00:46:10,586
Speaker 2: really have any offers till coach D'Antonio became the new

1048
00:46:10,626 --> 00:46:12,866
Speaker 2: head coach. They offered him, and he's just worked his

1049
00:46:12,906 --> 00:46:14,266
Speaker 2: way up and had a tremendous career.

1050
00:46:14,786 --> 00:46:16,706
Speaker 1: All right, My last one is a head coach, and

1051
00:46:16,746 --> 00:46:20,786
Speaker 1: it's not Belichick. It's a guy who hasn't for whatever reason,

1052
00:46:20,826 --> 00:46:23,146
Speaker 1: hasn't been able to win the big one. And he's

1053
00:46:22,786 --> 00:46:25,666
Speaker 1: as brilliant an offensive mine in the league. And you

1054
00:46:25,746 --> 00:46:28,026
Speaker 1: play you played for him when he first got his

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Speaker 1: first head coaching job in San Francisco. Do you have

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Speaker 1: any Kyle Shanahan stories to tell us the genius or

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00:46:34,306 --> 00:46:36,986
Speaker 1: the mad genius of the guy out there in San Francisco.

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Speaker 2: Man, I've learned so much from Kyle. I mean, really,

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00:46:39,786 --> 00:46:42,746
Speaker 2: that was my first true opportunity as a starting quarterback

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00:46:42,786 --> 00:46:45,226
Speaker 2: in Cleveland when he was the offensive coordinator and just

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00:46:45,306 --> 00:46:47,706
Speaker 2: trying to learn that West Coast system, something that I

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00:46:47,746 --> 00:46:50,546
Speaker 2: wasn't familiar with, and there were some rough times. I mean,

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Speaker 2: I'll never forget playing I think it was Baltimore and

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Speaker 2: you were running one of these boots, one of these nakeds,

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Speaker 2: and Kyle always said, like, you got to get your

1066
00:46:57,026 --> 00:46:59,746
Speaker 2: eyes around because it's your responsibility. If someone blitzing off

1067
00:46:59,786 --> 00:47:02,386
Speaker 2: the edge and I didn't see it and I got tattooed,

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00:47:02,426 --> 00:47:04,746
Speaker 2: I could not breathe. I threw the ball away and

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Speaker 2: I come over the sideline and I'm like literally like

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Speaker 2: trying to trying to take a breath. He's like, you

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00:47:09,626 --> 00:47:11,426
Speaker 2: know that was your fault, right, you know that's your fault.

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Speaker 2: That's yours. And I'm like, Kyle, that's not helping right now,

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Speaker 2: that's not not the encouraging words he's But then he

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Speaker 2: really cool, He's all right, let's go, let's talk about

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Speaker 2: the next series. I'm thinking this, and he is that

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00:47:21,266 --> 00:47:24,106
Speaker 2: mad genius. Like we were talking with Matt Lighton, like

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Speaker 2: walking past Bill Belichick in the hall is an awkward situation,

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Speaker 2: and that's for one reason. And walking past Kyle Shanahan,

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Speaker 2: you can just see it's like Zach galfanekis and the

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00:47:35,346 --> 00:47:38,706
Speaker 2: hangover when he's trying like Kyle's walking, yeah, Kyle's walking

1081
00:47:38,706 --> 00:47:40,306
Speaker 2: down the hallway. It's like he doesn't even see you

1082
00:47:40,346 --> 00:47:42,466
Speaker 2: there because he's like, you know, there's x's and oh's

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00:47:42,506 --> 00:47:45,746
Speaker 2: going across his brain and and he got better when

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00:47:45,746 --> 00:47:47,466
Speaker 2: he got to when he got to San Francisco. But

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Speaker 2: I remember in Cleveland like walking by, like what's up, Kyle,

1086
00:47:49,146 --> 00:47:52,106
Speaker 2: and he'd like and you just keep walking and they're like, man,

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Speaker 2: he's he's focused. But I learned so much about you know,

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00:47:54,866 --> 00:47:58,306
Speaker 2: offense and really zone defense from him. He was obsessed

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Speaker 2: with how you know, the past game can affect zone defense.

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Speaker 2: And when I was there in San Francisco, we had

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Speaker 2: Robert Salah was the defensive coordinator who now head co coach,

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Speaker 2: and you know, I learned so much about you know,

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00:48:08,586 --> 00:48:11,746
Speaker 2: quarterback fundamentals from him. And you know, you've seen how

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Speaker 2: he's been able to evolve his scheme over time, and

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Speaker 2: you know it's it truly is a mad genius.

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Speaker 1: Is Purty the perfect fit for him, because it's like

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Speaker 1: Purdy almost seems like I don't want to say robotic,

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00:48:24,266 --> 00:48:26,986
Speaker 1: that sounds insulting, but like Purty is just he gets it,

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Speaker 1: he sees it, he gets it. He's not trying to

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Speaker 1: do too much, and he delivers well.

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Speaker 2: The one thing that I always you know, I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say fought Kyle on but I was. I

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00:48:34,226 --> 00:48:36,826
Speaker 2: was trained in this Patriots system where the quarterback had

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Speaker 2: a lot to handle with the line of scrimmage, and

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00:48:38,826 --> 00:48:41,226
Speaker 2: I wanted to know where's the rotation. I wanted to

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00:48:41,226 --> 00:48:43,706
Speaker 2: know who the mic point is and and that's kind

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00:48:43,706 --> 00:48:45,426
Speaker 2: of how I was trained. And so going to Kyle,

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00:48:45,466 --> 00:48:47,586
Speaker 2: he wants to take all of that off the quarterback's plate,

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00:48:47,666 --> 00:48:50,746
Speaker 2: and to me, it took me a while to understand,

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00:48:50,786 --> 00:48:53,826
Speaker 2: like the benefits of that. And when you see him

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00:48:53,866 --> 00:48:57,786
Speaker 2: get a brock Party who knows nothing but Kyle's system.

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Speaker 2: I kind of said it when we were on the show.

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00:48:59,706 --> 00:49:03,106
Speaker 2: You know, going into the Super Bowl, brock Party is

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00:49:03,186 --> 00:49:05,786
Speaker 2: Kyle's avatar out on the field. And Kyle, you know,

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00:49:05,786 --> 00:49:07,706
Speaker 2: he would talk because so much for me was about

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00:49:07,706 --> 00:49:09,306
Speaker 2: the game plan. He's like, don't worry about I'll call

1117
00:49:09,346 --> 00:49:11,706
Speaker 2: to play at the right I got it. I got it,

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00:49:11,906 --> 00:49:14,026
Speaker 2: And that that made me nervous because it's like I

1119
00:49:14,066 --> 00:49:15,746
Speaker 2: want it to be in my hands. I want to know,

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Speaker 2: I want to change the play at the line of tremage.

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Speaker 2: That's just how I learned, you know, professional football. But

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00:49:20,546 --> 00:49:23,386
Speaker 2: you know he's had purty from the infancy stage, and

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Speaker 2: he's molded him exactly how he wants him. And when

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Speaker 2: I watched Brock play, I realized that's exactly the guy.

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Speaker 2: And I think even Jimmy, you know, Jimmy had success

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Speaker 2: with Kyle, but you know Jimmy would add live at times,

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00:49:35,106 --> 00:49:38,306
Speaker 2: and I think that would drive Kyle insane. And Kyle's

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Speaker 2: found a guy in Brock who literally, if if Kyle said, hey, Brock,

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Speaker 2: on this play, when you take a five step drop

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00:49:43,986 --> 00:49:47,026
Speaker 2: and throw it out of bounce to the left, Brock

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00:49:47,066 --> 00:49:48,706
Speaker 2: would say, okay, coach, and he would do it. And

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Speaker 2: it's been really and like he said, it's not an insult.

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00:49:51,066 --> 00:49:53,506
Speaker 2: It's just believing in your coach, believing in the system.

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Speaker 2: And it's been a proven thing that they've got going.

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Speaker 2: And you know, we talk about it. You know, every

1136
00:50:00,866 --> 00:50:02,906
Speaker 2: team ends the year the same way except one team.

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Speaker 2: It's a crash landing. Whether you don't make the playoffs

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00:50:05,026 --> 00:50:06,986
Speaker 2: or you lose in the Super Bowl, there's only one

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00:50:07,026 --> 00:50:08,466
Speaker 2: team that's going to be happy at the end of

1140
00:50:08,466 --> 00:50:09,946
Speaker 2: the year, and that's the team who wins Super Bowl.

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00:50:09,986 --> 00:50:12,226
Speaker 2: And so if you're putting yourself in the position and

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Speaker 2: I heard Peyton talk about it last night. I'd rather be,

1143
00:50:14,986 --> 00:50:17,346
Speaker 2: you know, the first loser and lose in the super

1144
00:50:17,346 --> 00:50:18,826
Speaker 2: Bowl and then not make the playoffs at all. And

1145
00:50:19,066 --> 00:50:21,266
Speaker 2: you're just a few plays away. And I'm sure you

1146
00:50:21,306 --> 00:50:23,226
Speaker 2: know they continue. They have a really good team, and

1147
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Speaker 2: Kyle continues to evolve as a coach. They'll always be

1148
00:50:26,386 --> 00:50:26,986
Speaker 2: in contention.

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Speaker 1: All right, as we wrap have the Green Bay Packers

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Speaker 1: called you yet, as Jordan Love is injured and we're

1151
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Speaker 1: looking at Malik Willison Sean Clifford on the death.

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Speaker 2: Chart, haven't got that call yet.

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Speaker 1: Nope, okay, all right, phone is open. And if Goody's listening,

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00:50:40,466 --> 00:50:42,746
Speaker 1: this is a guy who could still sling it, although

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00:50:42,746 --> 00:50:45,266
Speaker 1: he does have Monday seventh grade football practices, so he

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Speaker 1: might have to work around that. That's the will figure.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I always said, you know some of these guys

1158
00:50:49,666 --> 00:50:51,306
Speaker 2: I know around the league. I'm like, hey, remember when

1159
00:50:51,386 --> 00:50:54,546
Speaker 2: Josh McCown was like the practice squad quarterback from Afar.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, hey, just zoom me into some meetings something now,

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Speaker 2: I'll fly out. I'll be ready to go.

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Speaker 1: I can help you. Brian. I so appreciate this. You

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Speaker 1: killed it week one. You were the only person I

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Speaker 1: saw picked the Patriots to win, and then you had

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Speaker 1: the data and the information to break it down. I

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Speaker 1: know you're new at this media thing, but I can

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Speaker 1: listen to your stories for days and I so appreciate

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Speaker 1: you joining the season with Peter Schrager. What an awesome

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Speaker 1: experience this was.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, anytime Peter, anything for you. Man, You're awesome.

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Speaker 1: You're awesome too, dude. All right, guys, Brian Hoyer amazing.

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00:51:23,146 --> 00:51:25,786
Speaker 1: And the Patriots they've they want to know, but let's

1173
00:51:25,786 --> 00:51:34,266
Speaker 1: see if they can keep it going next week. Brian

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Speaker 1: Hoyer was great. I love stories. I also love that,

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Speaker 1: like he was there and he was there all summer,

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Speaker 1: and he was there for the preseason, he was there

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Speaker 1: for the build up the week one and he goes

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Speaker 1: on television and he's like, Yeah, the Patrit's trying to

1179
00:51:45,786 --> 00:51:49,906
Speaker 1: win this game. Meanwhile, I'm sitting with my Tommy Bahama

1180
00:51:49,946 --> 00:51:51,946
Speaker 1: shorts on on the beach with a cigar in my mouth.

1181
00:51:51,986 --> 00:51:53,946
Speaker 1: I'm like, Oh, the Bengals have Jamar Chase and Joe Burrow.

1182
00:51:53,946 --> 00:51:56,586
Speaker 1: They're gonna win. Sometimes it matters who's on the ground,

1183
00:51:56,626 --> 00:51:58,706
Speaker 1: who can get a vibe for a team, and Hoyer

1184
00:51:58,826 --> 00:52:01,026
Speaker 1: new and I love that. Kyle Shanahan. Stuff.

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Speaker 2: What a quote?

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Speaker 1: Rock Perty is like the avatar for Kyle Shanahan. Good stuff, Hoyer.

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Speaker 1: I'll probably have him on again. That was really good.

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