1 00:00:00,440 --> 00:00:03,840 Speaker 1: Hey, Daves, I guess the place to start is to 2 00:00:04,080 --> 00:00:06,920 Speaker 1: just go over some of the injuries from last night 3 00:00:06,960 --> 00:00:10,440 Speaker 1: and whether you can tell us more about Alan Johnson, Cordale, 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: Jamie Gillen, anybody else. 5 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's probably a better the next time I talked 6 00:00:16,280 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 2: to you. There's still there's people getting looked at. You know, 7 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:22,960 Speaker 2: we got in pretty late after three o'clock last night, 8 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 2: and I'd say those are kind of all up in 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 2: the air. They're getting looked at, some guys with doctors now, 10 00:00:30,560 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: So relative to where we are with all those I'll 11 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: have better clarity for you guys on Monday. 12 00:00:37,960 --> 00:00:40,840 Speaker 1: What about Evan and some of those guys anybody. 13 00:00:40,400 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 2: Back to frink to someone, Yeah, I'd say I'd say 14 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: the same thing right now with with all those guys, 15 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:49,159 Speaker 2: you know that Monday morning that we talk, I'll have 16 00:00:49,200 --> 00:00:50,720 Speaker 2: better answers for y'all. 17 00:00:51,760 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 3: Okay, please raise your hand if you have a question. 18 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:12,039 Speaker 4: Can Hey Dave, are good? 19 00:01:13,480 --> 00:01:13,760 Speaker 3: Good? 20 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:16,600 Speaker 5: After looking at the tape, what did. 21 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 2: You come away with, I'd say there was you know 22 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:23,360 Speaker 2: a lot of good examples of how we want to play, 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:31,800 Speaker 2: uh physically, communication wise, you know, team wise, and then 24 00:01:31,880 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 2: you know, for the first preseason game. There's always uh, 25 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,240 Speaker 2: there's always a lot to clean up. That's where the 26 00:01:36,280 --> 00:01:41,559 Speaker 2: coaches are right now, is their meet with their respective sides. Again, 27 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,160 Speaker 2: I know he was asked yesterday. I thought, I thought 28 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 2: of our young guys, you know, our two corners are center. 29 00:01:47,400 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 2: I thought they they showed well in the game for us, 30 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:53,320 Speaker 2: play with confidence. 31 00:01:54,240 --> 00:01:56,480 Speaker 4: Uh, you know, did their job. 32 00:01:57,280 --> 00:01:57,600 Speaker 3: Uh. 33 00:01:57,640 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: So it was good to see. Good to see those 34 00:01:59,600 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 2: three young guys out there, you know, playing. They played 35 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:04,720 Speaker 2: fairly high level. 36 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 5: Botti China, Hey, Daves, how you doing good? I'm good, 37 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 5: Thank you, Dave. What did you see on tape about 38 00:02:17,320 --> 00:02:21,320 Speaker 5: Jordan Riley, Tamaan Fox, Baldon Ados. Some of those young 39 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 5: guys looked like they had really good games. 40 00:02:23,080 --> 00:02:23,320 Speaker 4: Yeah. 41 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 2: No, again, probably a little bit what I said before. 42 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,240 Speaker 2: There was there was some good plays in there. 43 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 3: You know. 44 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,000 Speaker 2: Jordan played quite a bit, you know, made some nice 45 00:02:31,040 --> 00:02:34,720 Speaker 2: plays in the interior. Certainly some plays that you know 46 00:02:34,880 --> 00:02:37,880 Speaker 2: could have been better. I'd say the same with with 47 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:42,800 Speaker 2: Hobbs and Ox and Fox. You know, Fox obviously you know, 48 00:02:42,840 --> 00:02:44,720 Speaker 2: got off to a fast start on that first rush 49 00:02:44,760 --> 00:02:49,480 Speaker 2: and contributed to that turnover that JP had. So, you know, 50 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: I thought they flew around, they played hard, they played physical, 51 00:02:52,320 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 2: they ran to the ball on defense. Uh, certainly some 52 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 2: things that clean up. But you know, there's a lot 53 00:02:57,919 --> 00:02:59,800 Speaker 2: of good clips to show these guys of some of 54 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:03,160 Speaker 2: the stuff they're doing in practice really translated to some 55 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:03,679 Speaker 2: of the game. 56 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:06,200 Speaker 4: Thank you, Yep, you got it. 57 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:09,760 Speaker 3: Sorry Carroll it is. 58 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:11,280 Speaker 4: How's it going good? How are you. 59 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:15,200 Speaker 6: What did you see from Eron Gray yesterday? We saw 60 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 6: him back there in the punt and return game for 61 00:03:17,160 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 6: most of it, I think except one return. Yeah, running 62 00:03:21,440 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 6: snaps too. 63 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, fielded the ball. Well, we'll try it again. 64 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: Like I told you guys before, We'll try to get 65 00:03:27,400 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 2: him as many reps back there as we can. It 66 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 2: was a controlled environment, but make good decisions. You know, 67 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 2: had the good long one. We got a holding penalty 68 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 2: on it that took us back. We lost twenty five 69 00:03:37,880 --> 00:03:40,240 Speaker 2: yards of field position on that one, which would have 70 00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:41,760 Speaker 2: been a good good start. 71 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 4: Off the off the return. 72 00:03:42,720 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 2: But you know, try to get him as much work 73 00:03:45,320 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 2: as we can back there, you know, throughout these next 74 00:03:47,880 --> 00:03:50,760 Speaker 2: couple of preseason games, to give him as many reps 75 00:03:50,760 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: as he can get. 76 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 3: Just a quick follo up to that. 77 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 6: What did you do then? Because we also saw him 78 00:03:55,960 --> 00:03:58,080 Speaker 6: run the ball quite a few times later in the 79 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:00,120 Speaker 6: and I guess catch too, a. 80 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 2: Couple of receptions, caught a screen, had a couple of runs. Again, 81 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 2: I think he's, uh, you know, a rookie that needs 82 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:13,320 Speaker 2: to play and get experience playing. You know, it was 83 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 2: his first game. So I'm you know, probably be a 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: good question for all the rookies. I'm sure there was, 85 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,039 Speaker 2: you know, like there always has been since I've been 86 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: in the league. There's a little bit of anxiety and 87 00:04:23,080 --> 00:04:25,520 Speaker 2: they're anxious to get out there and play in their 88 00:04:25,560 --> 00:04:29,240 Speaker 2: first game. But you know, did some good things and uh, 89 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 2: you know, some things we definitely have to work on. 90 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 2: Not just him, but I'd say that the rest of 91 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 2: the young players too. 92 00:04:36,800 --> 00:04:40,720 Speaker 4: Paul Schwartz, h Paul. 93 00:04:40,520 --> 00:04:44,280 Speaker 7: Hey, you mentioned last night about you know, it was 94 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:47,159 Speaker 7: a little bit of rust with the coaches as well. Yeah, right, 95 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 7: you know, I mean, now, now this is not a 96 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:51,240 Speaker 7: normal game. You know, in a normal game, you're not 97 00:04:51,279 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 7: trying to get everybody in and juggle things like that. 98 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:55,599 Speaker 7: But what what do you mean by like the rust? 99 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:58,000 Speaker 7: You know, did you feel that actually. 100 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I haven't coached a game. It's uh, 101 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: you know January the coaches haven't. You know, preseason is 102 00:05:04,680 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 2: always a little different. There's there's a lot of players 103 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,840 Speaker 2: on your roster. There's a lot of shuffling. When they 104 00:05:09,880 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 2: come out on defense doesn't mean they're out on the 105 00:05:12,120 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 2: kicking game or offense. Requires a great attention to detail 106 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,279 Speaker 2: and look, any game is a competitive game, Paul, if 107 00:05:19,320 --> 00:05:22,680 Speaker 2: you're a competitor, so you know, I'd say, I think 108 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:24,920 Speaker 2: we have a bunch of competitors. But you know, we 109 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:27,440 Speaker 2: gotta you know, we got to build on from some 110 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 2: of the good stuff that we did and and correct 111 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 2: some of the mistakes. 112 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:32,440 Speaker 4: And you know, as always that will start with me. 113 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:36,400 Speaker 7: Does it ever happen where you have a plan for 114 00:05:36,560 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 7: every player right how much you wanted to play? And 115 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 7: does it always all that way? 116 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:43,280 Speaker 2: You know when you look at it, I mean we try, 117 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 2: We tried to. We try to stay the course. You know, 118 00:05:45,960 --> 00:05:51,200 Speaker 2: we map it out, have discussions you know that Friday 119 00:05:51,360 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 2: or whatever it is a couple of days before with 120 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 2: with after you go through the kind of the week 121 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 2: of practice, particularly in the preseason, and where they're at 122 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 2: with their GPS numbers, what they've on, the load they have, 123 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,760 Speaker 2: and then we sit down and talk about it with 124 00:06:03,800 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: the training staff and the sports science people. Then you know, 125 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 2: get the coaches input and we try. You know, is 126 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 2: it always perfect. Do we stay exactly online? No, but 127 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 2: I'd say we're we're pretty close to it. With the 128 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 2: amount of reps, you know that we anticipate each guy 129 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:21,040 Speaker 2: getting and one more quick one. 130 00:06:21,080 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 7: Now, last year, I guess your starters played the quarter, right, 131 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,680 Speaker 7: you know, the first team guys I think in the 132 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:31,600 Speaker 7: first game played a quarter or so. It was the 133 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 7: difference this year mainly because it's the second year and 134 00:06:36,440 --> 00:06:37,920 Speaker 7: you know more about those guys. 135 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's just it's just a different year. 136 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 2: So that's you know, we sit down, we discuss it 137 00:06:43,160 --> 00:06:45,599 Speaker 2: with the appropriate people that I talked to you guys 138 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:48,800 Speaker 2: about and make the decision that we thought was best. 139 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:52,280 Speaker 4: And you know, there's i'd say there's some good competitive. 140 00:06:51,760 --> 00:06:54,320 Speaker 2: Situations right now going on on our team and some 141 00:06:54,360 --> 00:06:56,160 Speaker 2: young guys you want to take a look at. Now, 142 00:06:56,640 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 2: you know, what we do next week, you know, that'll 143 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:01,360 Speaker 2: be determined throughout the work week and we'll see where 144 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:03,360 Speaker 2: we're at with all those numbers and and sit down 145 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:04,800 Speaker 2: at the end of the week and make a decision. 146 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 4: We feel his best. 147 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:10,760 Speaker 3: Burn On. 148 00:07:13,600 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 4: Hey, hey, what. 149 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 8: Did you see from the guards, specifically as Zudu and 150 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 8: Brettison playing the first half there? 151 00:07:21,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought, you know, for the most part, they 152 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 2: did a good job. They protected inside out. I thought 153 00:07:27,640 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 2: John Michael did as well. The three of them communicate 154 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 2: it well with one another. You know, they got some 155 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: movement at the line of scrimmage inside there. So it 156 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 2: was a you know, it was a first game, a 157 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 2: typical first game, but you know, those guys worked well together. 158 00:07:43,520 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 8: Why why played Ben? I know you didn't play most 159 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 8: of your veteran serves. He's not a guy who's like 160 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 8: so raw. I guess he's not a first or second 161 00:07:52,040 --> 00:07:54,600 Speaker 8: year guy. He's actually had some experience in the league. 162 00:07:54,680 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we we just we we thought it was 163 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 4: best for us. 164 00:07:57,560 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 2: I wanted to see him out there communicate with those 165 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 2: guys at the spot, and you know, we'll see how 166 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:03,200 Speaker 2: we do it this week. 167 00:08:04,480 --> 00:08:05,600 Speaker 4: And also one. 168 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,080 Speaker 8: More thing, I know you're probably aware of it. The 169 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 8: camera caught you sort of glaring at t Mac after 170 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 8: the punt return. What do you make of that? 171 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:19,200 Speaker 4: And you know, do you. 172 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:22,440 Speaker 8: It's going to be assumed that you know you you 173 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 8: were not happy with him specifically on that play or 174 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 8: with the job that he's doing. That's sort of the 175 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 8: inference that gets made out there. And I wonder what 176 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 8: you think of that. 177 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, not an issue. Competitive guy, We're all competitive. We're 178 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,520 Speaker 2: in a competitive environment. 179 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:38,400 Speaker 3: You know. 180 00:08:39,000 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 2: I'll hold everybody, not just T Mac, myself and everybody 181 00:08:42,000 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: else to a high standard. 182 00:08:43,120 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 4: And you know, love t Mac. 183 00:08:49,960 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 3: We'll take three more, Patty, trainer ran I wanted to 184 00:08:54,280 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 3: ask you about how players handle speed. 185 00:08:57,559 --> 00:09:00,560 Speaker 5: It looked like some of the guys last night struggled 186 00:09:00,600 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 5: against speed. Is that something that you can teach or 187 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,600 Speaker 5: is that just a matter of getting used to the 188 00:09:05,679 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 5: speed of the game. 189 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 2: And I'm talking particularly, I wish you could teach speed, Patty, 190 00:09:09,559 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 2: I wish you could teach speed. That be No, it's 191 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:16,120 Speaker 2: you know again, it's for a lot of these young players, 192 00:09:16,120 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 2: it's their their first time and playing in an NFL game. 193 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:24,599 Speaker 2: And again, just like things ramp up from practices to 194 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,719 Speaker 2: joint practices, they wrap up, you know, from joint practices 195 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 2: to the game in the preseason, and then they ramp 196 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:32,360 Speaker 2: up from the preseason game to a regular season game, 197 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 2: and if you're fortunate to go on it even wraps 198 00:09:34,880 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 2: up more so. You know, there's a lot of fast 199 00:09:38,040 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: people in this league that play fast, and you know, 200 00:09:42,920 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: speed usually kills. 201 00:09:44,960 --> 00:09:48,640 Speaker 5: How much the can technique help with Yeah, no, they can. 202 00:09:48,920 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 4: That can help. Technique helps with with a lot of stuff. 203 00:09:53,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 2: You know, if you're a fundamentally sound player and you 204 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,080 Speaker 2: maybe have a little bit less long speed or short 205 00:09:58,120 --> 00:10:00,960 Speaker 2: spaced quickness, but you're you know, all in your technique 206 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:02,440 Speaker 2: and you know where your help is and you play 207 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,280 Speaker 2: the right leverage, you run the right stems. Certainly that 208 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:08,760 Speaker 2: all plays in the factor. But you know, you can't 209 00:10:08,760 --> 00:10:12,000 Speaker 2: teach speed, so you know, faster the better. 210 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:19,720 Speaker 9: Thank you, ye, Charlotte Carroll. I just wanted to follow 211 00:10:19,800 --> 00:10:22,440 Speaker 9: up on something with John Michael. He had mentioned just 212 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 9: working on being loud in the communication. 213 00:10:25,200 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 5: What did you see. 214 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,679 Speaker 6: From him in this first kind of NFL game atmosphere? 215 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: How that's progressive? 216 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, he did a good job of of you know, 217 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,839 Speaker 2: communicating with his line mates and down the line of 218 00:10:34,880 --> 00:10:36,480 Speaker 2: scrimmage and and with the snap. 219 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:36,800 Speaker 4: It was good. 220 00:10:36,840 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 2: It's actually pretty loud at times in there. So you know, 221 00:10:40,040 --> 00:10:44,040 Speaker 2: for his first outing at center for US, you know, 222 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,480 Speaker 2: I was pleased with you know, the progress that he's 223 00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: made throughout camp, and I was pleased with his first game, 224 00:10:48,880 --> 00:10:49,640 Speaker 2: and you know. 225 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:51,040 Speaker 4: We gotta we got to build on from that. 226 00:10:52,240 --> 00:10:59,640 Speaker 3: Thanks yep, last one, Tom Canneban Hello again, Hey Tom 227 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:04,559 Speaker 3: Good Brian, have you ever thought about Daniels reached the 228 00:11:04,600 --> 00:11:06,079 Speaker 3: point in his career where you see. 229 00:11:05,920 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 5: Him every day, you know him. There are a lot 230 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 5: of other veterans on this team. Have you ever gotten 231 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 5: to the point where you say he doesn't need to 232 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 5: play in the preseason? No, so he'll he'll get in 233 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:19,160 Speaker 5: at some point. 234 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:22,280 Speaker 2: Then we'll talk about that and in you know, the 235 00:11:22,360 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 2: end of the week. So again, these decisions really are 236 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:27,480 Speaker 2: made towards the end of the week. Like I've told 237 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: you guys, there's a lot of research and communication that 238 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:35,440 Speaker 2: goes into it. But you know, I'd anticipate him playing