WEBVTT - Ask Us Anything - Double Or Nothing Recap 0:00:00.280 --> 0:00:02.840 Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:06.640 of the Wrestling Observer Daily podcast on the eight Side Network. 0:00:08.560 --> 0:00:14.360 Ready are you ready? Let's get it all. How's it 0:00:14.360 --> 0:00:17.880 going everybody? Brian Alvarez here on Wrestling Observer Live. We 0:00:17.960 --> 0:00:20.920 are here every day Monday through Friday, New Pacific, three Eastern, 0:00:20.960 --> 0:00:25.760 Sundays three Pacific, sixth Eastern. God is Tuesday, isn't it? 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:29.080 Holy smokes, it's Tuesday here on this program. I haven't 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:32.480 been here since what Wednesday? And my god, it feels 0:00:32.479 --> 0:00:36.200 like it's been years. Heh Twitch homies, top tier YouTube subscribers, 0:00:36.200 --> 0:00:40.280 all of our listeners. Sports my line, I'm might hear 0:00:40.360 --> 0:00:42.800 ten ninety. I am back here today. Mike will be 0:00:42.880 --> 0:00:46.400 joining us after the break, and obviously I get a 0:00:46.400 --> 0:00:49.360 lot to talk about here, don't we. So I'm gonna 0:00:49.360 --> 0:00:50.760 go over a little bit of the news, talk a 0:00:50.760 --> 0:00:54.960 little bit about the Double or Nothing Show, and then 0:00:55.400 --> 0:00:57.640 what do you want to know about the weekend? Ask 0:00:57.760 --> 0:01:03.319 me anything about w Double or Nothing weekend? And then 0:01:03.400 --> 0:01:07.280 later I presume we'll do that at Raw Report as well. 0:01:07.319 --> 0:01:09.640 Don't even don't even talk to me about Spirit Airlines. 0:01:09.920 --> 0:01:11.680 A lot of these, a lot of this stuff will 0:01:11.720 --> 0:01:14.440 be tonight on the Brian and Vinnie and Craig Show 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:18.080 because we're gonna review Double or Nothing weekend, and if 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.280 you want to hear about the restaurant and the airlines, 0:01:20.440 --> 0:01:24.440 I'll tell you that story tonight only for subscribers Wrestling 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:29.280 Observer dot com, Video dot f W Online dot com. 0:01:29.319 --> 0:01:31.080 And I got a lot to say about those two things, 0:01:31.080 --> 0:01:38.960 but today, obviously m JF Double or Nothing tomorrow's a 0:01:39.280 --> 0:01:42.360 w dynamite. A lot of stuff to talk about from 0:01:42.400 --> 0:01:45.280 the weekend, still recovering, but we're gonna get into all 0:01:45.319 --> 0:01:48.040 of that here today and then the rest of the 0:01:48.080 --> 0:01:51.000 news as well, everyone's favorite topic and x T two 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.960 point ohs. Tonight, we've got the finals of the Best 0:01:53.960 --> 0:01:56.640 of the Super Juniors Tournament. We've got what's going on 0:01:56.680 --> 0:02:01.080 with Jake Atlas, We've got din My Wednesday has noted 0:02:01.080 --> 0:02:04.360 the death of Tarzan Go too. The Raw Report Helen 0:02:04.400 --> 0:02:08.120 is Sela is coming up on Sunday, so we'll see 0:02:08.120 --> 0:02:10.400 how much we can get into here. We had a 0:02:10.480 --> 0:02:13.360 special last Wednesday one month for three dollars and nay 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.560 nine cents, and man, let me tell you if you 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.760 missed that, So I don't know to tell you. I 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:21.760 don't know what to tell you, but those of you 0:02:21.800 --> 0:02:25.160 that did take advantage or current subscribers, boy, we've got 0:02:25.160 --> 0:02:26.440 a lot of great stuff coming up and had a 0:02:26.480 --> 0:02:28.520 lot over this weekend. So back in a moment with 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:47.639 more Observer Live. You were listening to Wrestling Observer Live 0:02:47.800 --> 0:02:51.519 with Brian Alvarez and Mike semperviv on the Sports Byline 0:02:51.560 --> 0:02:57.440 Broadcasting Network. Back in the show Ran Alvarez here wrestling 0:02:57.480 --> 0:03:00.240 him are Live, Mike smber Vide also wrestling Observative him 0:03:01.680 --> 0:03:06.280 And before I get going here very quickly, I'll let 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:11.080 you go first, real fast, how's the show overall? What 0:03:11.160 --> 0:03:13.880 this one? It was fantastic. You talking about double or Nothing. 0:03:13.880 --> 0:03:16.359 No one cares about this show that was double or 0:03:16.400 --> 0:03:19.600 Nothing that wasn't on TV. Was good. It was good. 0:03:19.720 --> 0:03:22.080 It was long, and I'm sure everybody has heard that 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.520 one by now. But and so there were some matches 0:03:24.680 --> 0:03:27.239 one could argue could have been, you know, set aside 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:31.120 for Wednesday or something like that. But the show as 0:03:31.120 --> 0:03:33.959 a whole was really really good and there was again 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.480 a little bit of something for everybody there. Everybody can 0:03:37.520 --> 0:03:40.280 pick nits over the things they liked, and they didn't 0:03:40.280 --> 0:03:41.880 like out of the show, but overall, I think it 0:03:41.920 --> 0:03:47.880 was a success. I should started talking about MGF first, 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.920 or what do we want to do? I heard you 0:03:49.920 --> 0:03:52.840 got beat up. I got beat up. After forget about that. 0:03:52.920 --> 0:03:55.760 We got important things to talk about here today. Brother. Okay, 0:03:55.800 --> 0:03:59.760 listens MGF story all right, listen. I want to make 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:04.200 this a budly clear. Okay. I don't know what's going on. Okay, 0:04:04.240 --> 0:04:07.880 I don't know what's going on, but I knew I 0:04:07.920 --> 0:04:14.040 know what happened, like I know what publicly occurred. Okay. 0:04:14.080 --> 0:04:17.440 So there was supposed to be a meet and greet 0:04:17.440 --> 0:04:21.119 with m JF and he wasn't there. He didn't show 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:26.560 and uh, and people were very very angry. People in 0:04:26.560 --> 0:04:30.080 the company were very very angry. So as we'll get 0:04:30.120 --> 0:04:31.920 to here, if this is a work, they didn't clude 0:04:31.920 --> 0:04:39.120 anybody into this on Saturday, fans were furious, and that 0:04:39.560 --> 0:04:43.760 I can tell you happened. Okay. Now from that point on, 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.720 from that point on, listen to me. There are a 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:51.799 lot of stories out on the internet right now. Okay, 0:04:51.839 --> 0:04:55.160 there's a lot of stories out on the internet, all right. Now, 0:04:57.240 --> 0:05:02.320 do I believe that m JF at some point in 0:05:02.360 --> 0:05:06.800 the past felt that he deserved more money than he 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:12.560 was getting. Yes, okay. Do I believe that he got 0:05:12.560 --> 0:05:19.039 a raise at some point between when he signed and today? Yes, okay. 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.719 Now do I believe deep down that whenever he's making 0:05:21.880 --> 0:05:28.880 MGF feels he deserves more? Of course, of course, do 0:05:28.920 --> 0:05:31.120 I believe everything that is out there on the internet 0:05:31.200 --> 0:05:33.080 right now about m JF. Can you tell by my 0:05:33.120 --> 0:05:40.280 face all of you watching on video listen, I don't 0:05:40.279 --> 0:05:42.960 know what's going on. Okay, I know a lot of 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.480 people are are I saw some stuff on the board. Oh, 0:05:45.520 --> 0:05:50.000 the reporting this weekend was was so horrible. Actually it wasn't. Okay, 0:05:50.000 --> 0:05:53.400 maybe it was. Listen. Here's the thing. I've talked to 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:58.799 so many people about this story, okay, and there's there's 0:05:58.839 --> 0:06:07.600 two things all and the either either nobody knows or 0:06:07.640 --> 0:06:13.000 like every single person is you know what I'm saying. 0:06:14.360 --> 0:06:16.520 You know what I'm saying here, Mike, I know what 0:06:16.560 --> 0:06:20.080 you're saying. I don't. I don't trust any of this. 0:06:20.800 --> 0:06:22.800 And and listen here I'll put I'll put it this 0:06:22.839 --> 0:06:25.720 way too. How many times has there been something that's 0:06:25.720 --> 0:06:29.080 happened in wrestling and all the fans immediately go, this 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:33.400 is a work, And I immediately every time say, don't 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:37.120 assume that everything is a work as it was exactly 0:06:37.120 --> 0:06:40.120 this exacting thing happened with Sasha and Bailey. Like when 0:06:40.120 --> 0:06:42.359 the Sasha Bailey thing, everybody thought it was a work 0:06:43.120 --> 0:06:46.560 and it wasn't a work, okay, and uh, and many 0:06:46.600 --> 0:06:50.640 many times, I am anti conspiracy, I am anti presuming everything. 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:53.559 So that should tell you something when I don't trust 0:06:53.600 --> 0:07:00.960 any of this, Okay, So I do believe that whatever 0:07:01.080 --> 0:07:04.359 is happening, you know. We there was a press conference 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:07.240 on on Saturday night. A lot of people have talked 0:07:07.279 --> 0:07:14.360 about and and Tony was asked about m JF and uh, 0:07:14.520 --> 0:07:16.160 and Tony con said I'm not I'm not going to 0:07:16.240 --> 0:07:18.840 talk about MJF. Okay. And then a lot of people 0:07:18.880 --> 0:07:20.720 are like, angry, Oh, why did you guys follow up 0:07:20.720 --> 0:07:23.880 on it? Okay, well a he said he wasn't gonna 0:07:23.920 --> 0:07:25.520 talk about m JF. What do your mean to do? 0:07:25.640 --> 0:07:29.560 Keep asking? That's number one? And number two we did, Okay. 0:07:30.160 --> 0:07:34.080 We tried to get info on this from Tony Khn 0:07:34.320 --> 0:07:37.880 before the press conference, We tried to get info from 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:41.600 Tony Khn during the press conference, and in fact we 0:07:41.640 --> 0:07:45.920 asked again after the press conference, and every single time 0:07:46.680 --> 0:07:54.760 Tony said, I'm not talking about this now, perhaps everybody, 0:07:54.920 --> 0:08:02.120 perhaps everybody is lying to me. But Tony allegedly from 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.800 what I've been told, is not talking to anybody about this. So, 0:08:07.440 --> 0:08:13.120 you know, it's funny that there's so much information out 0:08:13.160 --> 0:08:16.680 on the internet about what's going on, despite the fact 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.440 that Tony and uh and virtually nobody knows anything or 0:08:20.520 --> 0:08:22.520 is talking about anything. But there's a lot of information 0:08:22.560 --> 0:08:26.240 out there. It seems kind of weird. So anyway, Uh, 0:08:26.720 --> 0:08:31.600 long story short, I don't trust any of this. I 0:08:31.640 --> 0:08:34.439 think that MGF is going to be back at some point. 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:39.720 I believe that. That's what I believe. So, uh, whatever 0:08:39.760 --> 0:08:42.400 you want to believe is whatever you want to believe. Okay, 0:08:42.600 --> 0:08:46.120 I only know for sure. I only know for sure 0:08:47.200 --> 0:08:49.640 that he didn't show up at the meet and greet, 0:08:49.720 --> 0:08:51.800 and he did show up at the pay per view. 0:08:52.160 --> 0:08:54.720 He showed up in the last second, he did his match, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.120 and then he left. Okay, that's what I know. Now, 0:08:59.160 --> 0:09:03.439 I'm very, very skeptical that if this is all real, 0:09:04.640 --> 0:09:08.199 Tony Cohn is going to continue advertising this match until 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:11.440 the very last second when that guy ain't in the building. 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:16.480 At one o'clock, but they never from from the moment 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:18.720 the show started. It was listed as number and before 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:21.000 the show started, I mean earlier the day, like noon, 0:09:21.800 --> 0:09:24.120 whenever everybody was there at the building, the lineup had 0:09:24.240 --> 0:09:28.520 MGF going on first. It never changed, it was never removed. 0:09:29.520 --> 0:09:31.560 But he showed up like five minutes before the show, 0:09:31.640 --> 0:09:33.560 like Tony trusted that he was going to do that, 0:09:34.120 --> 0:09:37.840 and then and then he left immediately afterwards because you know, 0:09:38.000 --> 0:09:40.400 clearly he did not want to hang out in that 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:46.040 locker room, probably because you know, no one knows what's 0:09:46.080 --> 0:09:49.400 going on, and uh, I don't think he wanted to 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.160 talk to people about what was going on. Now, if 0:09:51.160 --> 0:09:53.360 you want to conclude that that's because well there's a 0:09:53.400 --> 0:09:56.680 serious issue going on here between Tony Con and m JF, 0:09:56.840 --> 0:09:58.880 then you know you're welcome to I don't know, maybe 0:09:58.880 --> 0:10:01.640 that is what's going on. I don't trust it. So 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:05.920 that's the MJF story, everybody. Uh, he did his job, 0:10:06.160 --> 0:10:07.920 he got out of there. I don't think you're gonna 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.679 see him for a while, but I absolutely believe that 0:10:10.679 --> 0:10:14.720 you're gonna see him again. So there you go. Smells 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.160 like pro wrestling a lot of this, but you don't 0:10:18.240 --> 0:10:24.120 say worker shoot. No matter who was involved, there were 0:10:24.120 --> 0:10:27.000 no winners here. This was not a good thing. You know, 0:10:27.280 --> 0:10:31.160 sometimes the Brian Pillman's and that sort of stuff gets 0:10:31.280 --> 0:10:36.000 romanticized and much like the wrestling we're thirty years past 0:10:36.040 --> 0:10:38.280 a lot of this stuff and some of that those 0:10:38.320 --> 0:10:43.319 same old tricks. Because if this is m JF if look, 0:10:43.360 --> 0:10:45.960 if this is a shoot and he's really upset, then 0:10:46.840 --> 0:10:49.120 shame on him, because you don't let down the fans 0:10:49.240 --> 0:10:51.320 like that. Even though you're upset with the company. You 0:10:51.320 --> 0:10:53.440 can play your gimmick. You can be annoying as you want, 0:10:53.480 --> 0:10:55.840 you can be even extra cruel to people, and people 0:10:56.000 --> 0:10:57.959 just think that's a part of the game. So if 0:10:57.960 --> 0:11:01.320 he's really upset, obviously there's you know, the the issue 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.559 of what would drive him to do something like that. 0:11:03.600 --> 0:11:06.280 But then you're very unprofessional and doing what you're doing 0:11:06.280 --> 0:11:09.120 to the to the fans to try to spite the company. 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.719 If it's a work for him, it was incredibly stupid 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.960 by him because you really left a w and alert. 0:11:16.040 --> 0:11:18.640 She left employees there that are dealing with angry fans 0:11:18.640 --> 0:11:21.240 who paid money to see you, you know, just to 0:11:21.280 --> 0:11:23.439 try to further your gimmick. Or try to play something 0:11:23.480 --> 0:11:26.960 off the past. I think it sucks. And if it 0:11:27.160 --> 0:11:31.240 happens to be a work with Tony Kahn and m JF, yes, 0:11:31.840 --> 0:11:36.120 you can budget that money as money that Okay, we're 0:11:36.160 --> 0:11:37.880 gonna do an angle here and we're gonna lose this 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.920 because we're gonna have to refund people. But in the 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:43.040 long run, this is something that's really going to play 0:11:43.040 --> 0:11:45.320 into the legacy. If you are doing that type of 0:11:45.400 --> 0:11:49.480 four d hs, then you are really overthinking a lot 0:11:49.520 --> 0:11:51.640 of this stuff because if you wanted to add that 0:11:51.720 --> 0:11:53.960 to the repertoire of what m JF is and so 0:11:54.040 --> 0:11:56.760 people can look back and you work together on this, 0:11:57.520 --> 0:12:00.440 you really screwed over a lot of people. And again 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:02.920 it may not have any long term lasting effects, but 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:06.640 it didn't have any positive effects. There's nothing that says 0:12:06.679 --> 0:12:09.800 that this spike pay per view sales or interest on 0:12:10.240 --> 0:12:14.080 Google searches or anything like that. So it was unfortunate 0:12:14.200 --> 0:12:16.840 to the fans that were there. And however it went down, 0:12:16.840 --> 0:12:19.480 whether it be a work or shoot, work that became 0:12:19.520 --> 0:12:21.240 a shoe, a shoot that became a work, and no 0:12:21.280 --> 0:12:24.440 matter who was involved, it was not a good idea 0:12:24.480 --> 0:12:27.360 of period. Point line. Back at a moment with more, 0:12:27.440 --> 0:12:51.920 we'll talk about the whole paper view Observer Live back 0:12:51.920 --> 0:12:55.079 in the show. Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Alive 0:12:55.400 --> 0:12:59.360 like super viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. I greatly 0:12:59.520 --> 0:13:04.960 enjoyed myself at that pay per view. But it's interesting 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:09.400 because I was sitting front row. I've never sat front 0:13:09.440 --> 0:13:12.520 row in a w show before, which is astonishing given 0:13:12.559 --> 0:13:17.840 I'm paid by Tony con I was gonna say, when 0:13:17.840 --> 0:13:20.520 he handed you the envelope or the front row tickets 0:13:20.600 --> 0:13:24.400 in there, what envelope? What are you talking about? Tony 0:13:24.400 --> 0:13:27.280 handed me an envelope, Tony Leader gave you a gave 0:13:27.280 --> 0:13:30.400 you a handshake. But anyway, so I watched show from 0:13:30.400 --> 0:13:31.960 the front row. Man, I had a really good time, 0:13:32.200 --> 0:13:35.240 and I did hear that. You know, it is always 0:13:35.240 --> 0:13:37.640 the case, and I always mentioned this for live shows. 0:13:38.080 --> 0:13:40.520 Depending on where you were sitting or if you were 0:13:40.520 --> 0:13:43.679 watching it on television, you may have had a different 0:13:43.800 --> 0:13:50.480 perception of certain things because life is subjective everybody. But 0:13:50.559 --> 0:13:52.080 I'll tell you what I thought from where I was 0:13:52.120 --> 0:13:56.920 at hook How's and match like six minutes, I mean 0:13:57.000 --> 0:14:01.640 literally was exactly exactly what you would expect. Looking Dan 0:14:01.679 --> 0:14:06.000 Housing beat, Tony Nice and Mark Sterling when Dan Housing 0:14:06.040 --> 0:14:08.040 got the Pandan Housing super over by the way, when 0:14:08.040 --> 0:14:10.160 they hit his music and put his his face up 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:12.600 on the big Titan tron deal or whatever they call it, 0:14:12.679 --> 0:14:18.240 the A E W Tron, But anyway, it was, it 0:14:18.320 --> 0:14:22.040 was fine. It was from little match Wardlow and m JF. 0:14:22.720 --> 0:14:25.320 So if you didn't see the match, which who hasn't 0:14:25.320 --> 0:14:30.120 heard about this match? Basically, uh, m JF. They played 0:14:30.120 --> 0:14:32.160 his music. At first he didn't come out, then he 0:14:32.200 --> 0:14:34.640 did come out. Then he started doing the flying around 0:14:34.640 --> 0:14:38.200 the ring thing to uh mark the fans, and uh. 0:14:38.320 --> 0:14:42.040 He kept avoiding wordlow, avoiding word low, avoiding wordlow, and 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:44.840 finally a little bit of heat. He goes to put 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:47.120 the ring on, but the rest behind him, the ref 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:50.920 sees it. The ref pulls the ring off. MGF takes 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:54.640 five power bombs. Warlow puts the boot on him for 0:14:54.680 --> 0:14:56.320 the pin, but then takes the boot off at two, 0:14:56.800 --> 0:15:01.040 gives him five more power bombs and then pins him 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:04.480 and they strutchered out. MJF put the nick brace on 0:15:04.560 --> 0:15:06.920 the whole nine yards I mean when it was over, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:11.280 you know, because of the the the story, the MGF 0:15:11.320 --> 0:15:13.760 story a lot of people were immediately, oh man, he's 0:15:13.800 --> 0:15:16.000 being written off. He's he's out of the territory. This 0:15:16.040 --> 0:15:19.040 was like the blowoff of the character, etcetera, etcetera. But 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:22.920 the funny thing is, like when I this was exactly 0:15:22.960 --> 0:15:25.400 and if if you remember everybody, we're talking about this 0:15:25.440 --> 0:15:28.440 months ago on Brighton Vinney and my my booking was 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.040 he should be power bomb thirty times, right, Well he 0:15:33.120 --> 0:15:35.960 got ten and then he's out of there. So this 0:15:36.040 --> 0:15:40.680 thing started two and a half years ago, So what 0:15:40.760 --> 0:15:43.080 did you want for the blowoff of the storyline? This 0:15:43.120 --> 0:15:46.480 is exactly how it should have ended, even if the 0:15:46.480 --> 0:15:49.360 guy is sticking around. More so in fact, because they 0:15:49.360 --> 0:15:52.120 didn't blow off the diamond ring. He didn't hit him 0:15:52.160 --> 0:15:55.360 with the ring. Lord Low didn't kick out the diamond 0:15:55.440 --> 0:15:57.560 ring and the one wing and angel or the two 0:15:57.680 --> 0:16:00.360 most protected things in a W and bro. This guy 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:01.880 is out of here and he's leaving and he's not 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:05.000 coming back. You blow off the ring, but they didn't. 0:16:05.480 --> 0:16:09.600 So that was that. The heart Ease and the Young Bucks, 0:16:10.520 --> 0:16:16.600 this was very hit and miss early, mostly because Jeff 0:16:16.640 --> 0:16:22.560 Hardy is uh, I mean, this dude is beat up 0:16:22.800 --> 0:16:27.520 bad and uh, the heart Ease and the Young Bucks. 0:16:27.560 --> 0:16:30.160 The Young Bucks clearly wanted to go in there and 0:16:30.280 --> 0:16:34.160 give them one last great Hardy Boys match, because man, 0:16:34.200 --> 0:16:38.440 they were working so hard, particularly from the front row 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.880 watching Nick Jackson in there. This guy worked for like 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:47.040 fifty guys in one night. Probably just exhausted after this match, 0:16:47.600 --> 0:16:51.160 but man, they they I thought by the end they 0:16:51.200 --> 0:16:54.600 had a very very good match. And it has since 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.680 been announced there was a ten man tag that was 0:16:56.720 --> 0:17:01.960 scheduled for Dynamite that featured of Hardy and Jeff. Hardy 0:17:02.000 --> 0:17:04.760 has been pulled from the match. So, I mean he 0:17:04.800 --> 0:17:07.520 was hurt going into the match, and I think it's 0:17:07.560 --> 0:17:09.920 clear they're like, this dude needs time to get better. 0:17:10.160 --> 0:17:13.920 So he's pulled, and uh it is now an eight man. 0:17:14.640 --> 0:17:18.080 And so they also pulled Adam Cole and I've been 0:17:18.119 --> 0:17:21.520 told that Adam Cole also hurt, So both of the 0:17:21.520 --> 0:17:24.160 guys were hurt. They didn't just pull Adam Cole because 0:17:24.160 --> 0:17:25.679 they wanted to go from a ten man to an 0:17:25.680 --> 0:17:29.520 eight man. Adam Cole he's injured as well. You could 0:17:29.560 --> 0:17:33.879 see that his his shoulder was all taped up, so, uh, 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:36.600 whatever is going on, Like he's also getting time off 0:17:36.640 --> 0:17:39.920 to to heal. But I thought the match was good. 0:17:39.920 --> 0:17:42.119 Other people did not think the match was good. So 0:17:43.440 --> 0:17:46.600 Jake Cargill n J I did not think was very good. 0:17:46.880 --> 0:17:49.800 And I actually thought that Jake Cargil looked pretty good. 0:17:50.359 --> 0:17:52.720 But they had a match before that was very good. 0:17:52.840 --> 0:17:55.280 And Uh, I don't know what happened here, but Anna 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:59.880 j looked like she was lost at points. It just 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:04.040 how long did they go? They went, uh seven minutes 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.639 and they did shoot the big angle afterwards where we 0:18:07.720 --> 0:18:10.639 got the debut of the former Athena or the former 0:18:10.760 --> 0:18:14.880 Amber Moon. She's now Athena, so she debuted. Afterwards, Chris 0:18:14.880 --> 0:18:17.000 stat Landard was out there. They did a Jade Cargill 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:20.040 stat LANDERD stare down and after rampage when the fans 0:18:20.200 --> 0:18:23.840 totally turned on Ruby soho because they wanted uh A 0:18:23.920 --> 0:18:27.159 stat LANDERD to win. I don't know if stat Lander's 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.840 gonna beat Jade Cargill, but when they did that stair 0:18:29.880 --> 0:18:33.040 down and uh, and I saw the reaction to stat 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:35.200 LANDERD on Friday, I would not be surprised if they 0:18:35.200 --> 0:18:38.439 did that house a black beat. The Death Triangle smatch 0:18:38.560 --> 0:18:42.480 was awesome and uh at the end they finally pulled 0:18:42.480 --> 0:18:45.359 the trigger on the Julia heart turn. Thank God not 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:51.119 a moment too soon, and she cost Death Triangle the match. 0:18:51.280 --> 0:18:52.680 This was one of the best matches on the show. 0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:56.159 Adam Cole beat some O Joe to win the men's 0:18:56.960 --> 0:19:00.560 Owen Heart Tournament, and Britt Baker beat Ruby Oho to 0:19:00.600 --> 0:19:03.800 when the women's tournament, I thought Ruby Soho was gonna win, 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.680 but clearly they wanted the Adam Cole Britt Baker, they're 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:11.080 a couple. They both won. Uh. They did a deal 0:19:11.119 --> 0:19:15.360 afterwards with Martha Hart where h Tony Khn basically said, 0:19:15.480 --> 0:19:16.840 go out there and talk as long as you want. 0:19:16.840 --> 0:19:18.760 I bought an extra hour of pay per view time. 0:19:19.280 --> 0:19:21.320 So she went out there and she did this great 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.920 speech and the people were chanting Owen his name, and 0:19:24.400 --> 0:19:27.600 Cole and Baker are standing there like they're both heels. 0:19:28.000 --> 0:19:30.040 But they're out there and they're like the biggest baby faces, 0:19:30.119 --> 0:19:33.960 getting these trophies and hugging and kissing the fans like 0:19:34.280 --> 0:19:37.199 they're both heels. But when they kissed, the fans are like, 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:39.880 how sweet it is. And then of course we got 0:19:39.920 --> 0:19:43.320 Sammy and Tie where when they kiss, that's some heat 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:46.960 we had. Uh. And speaking of Ethan Page Scorpius sky 0:19:47.040 --> 0:19:50.240 Page Vans and versus Frankie Sammy Gavara and Thai Conti 0:19:51.280 --> 0:19:54.480 Page Vans and totally not ready to go live and uh, 0:19:54.640 --> 0:19:57.960 stuff didn't look good the guys, for the most part, 0:19:58.000 --> 0:20:02.360 everything looked great. They had Sammy and Tye constantly kissing, 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.600 to the point that Frankie Kazarian, their partner, eventually was like, dude, 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.600 I'm out of here. He goes to walk, but then 0:20:07.640 --> 0:20:10.560 he wanted to win, so he came back and Uh. Ultimately, 0:20:11.280 --> 0:20:14.520 Uh Sammy accidentally super kick Tai Conti. That was the 0:20:14.520 --> 0:20:17.840 big spot in the match, and American Top Team ended 0:20:17.880 --> 0:20:20.639 up getting the win. So it's not clear because they 0:20:20.680 --> 0:20:25.840 said it two ways. Uh Sammy Gavara and Uh Frankie 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:30.960 Kazarian can either never challenge for the TNT title again, 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:34.520 or they can never challenge as long as Scorpio Sky 0:20:34.560 --> 0:20:37.639 as the champion. On Friday they said never ever on 0:20:37.680 --> 0:20:39.960 the paper view SID as long as Scorpio Sky was champion. 0:20:40.000 --> 0:20:41.720 So I'm not sure exactly which one it is at 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:45.600 this point. Kyla Riley Darby Allen. They got ten minutes. 0:20:45.960 --> 0:20:47.919 It was great. It would have been better if they 0:20:47.920 --> 0:20:50.040 would have had more time, but they didn't and Kyla 0:20:50.160 --> 0:20:52.160 Riley beat this dude clean in the middle of the ring, 0:20:52.680 --> 0:20:55.399 So I don't know what Kyle's being built for something. 0:20:55.760 --> 0:20:58.440 I don't know what it's gonna be. But he beat 0:20:58.520 --> 0:21:02.600 him clean, so I was surprised. Match was crazy. Thunder 0:21:02.680 --> 0:21:07.040 Rosa serena deep. Where I was sitting, the crowd seemed 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.280 very quiet for about the first half of this match. 0:21:09.320 --> 0:21:11.000 They did get into it at the end, and it 0:21:11.080 --> 0:21:14.199 was a very good match. But I heard from like 0:21:14.240 --> 0:21:16.160 wherever Dave was ad he goes oh, they were crolled 0:21:16.200 --> 0:21:19.480 crazy the hole match, So wherever you were, you apparently 0:21:19.560 --> 0:21:21.800 got a different take than than I did. But it 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:23.280 was a good match, don't get me wrong, it was 0:21:23.320 --> 0:21:26.480 a very good match. Thunder Rosa retains. She is still 0:21:26.520 --> 0:21:30.880 the champion. Jericho Appreciation Siety versus the Blackpool Combat Club 0:21:30.960 --> 0:21:35.120 was the craziest match you ever saw. And uh, I 0:21:35.200 --> 0:21:38.840 was front row, so I missed a lot because if 0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:41.080 you were like in the suites, you could see the 0:21:41.200 --> 0:21:43.679 entire arena, can see anything that's going on. Obviously, if 0:21:43.680 --> 0:21:45.399 you're at home, you could see everything that was going on. 0:21:45.680 --> 0:21:49.000 I could only see what was happening at ringside, which 0:21:49.119 --> 0:21:53.800 was a lot, and they had a crazy, wild, awesome brawl. 0:21:54.119 --> 0:21:58.080 They played Moxi's music two times through, and after they 0:21:58.080 --> 0:22:00.280 played it the first time through, they started playing at 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:02.000 the second was like a new Jack match, and the 0:22:02.040 --> 0:22:03.920 fans they did the biggest pop when they started playing 0:22:03.920 --> 0:22:05.600 the music again. I thought they were gonna play the 0:22:05.680 --> 0:22:08.400 music through the entire match, and it was actually furious 0:22:08.400 --> 0:22:10.400 when they shut it off. But given the match went 0:22:10.640 --> 0:22:14.760 twenty three minutes, it was the right call for Chris 0:22:14.960 --> 0:22:19.959 Jericho rock Star. His character hates rock music and so 0:22:20.000 --> 0:22:22.280 he destroyed the sound board and the music shut off, 0:22:22.320 --> 0:22:25.240 and I thought this match was probably the best match 0:22:25.280 --> 0:22:29.679 on the show. Jurassic Express versus Keith Lee and Swerves, 0:22:29.720 --> 0:22:34.400 Drickland and Powerhousehobbies and Rookie Starts another great match and 0:22:34.560 --> 0:22:38.120 uh Tony con mentioned in the post show press conference, 0:22:38.160 --> 0:22:41.239 and it's true, there have never been there's never been 0:22:41.240 --> 0:22:43.800 an a W pay per view where the last three 0:22:43.800 --> 0:22:46.320 matches had this much heat. And it was a long 0:22:46.440 --> 0:22:49.960 show and this crowd should have been dead tired, but man, 0:22:50.119 --> 0:22:54.120 there was heat for this match. And Jurassic Express one. 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:58.200 They're still doing the slow turn to the Christian turning 0:22:58.240 --> 0:23:00.880 on Jungle Boy, but they haven't hold the trigger yet. 0:23:01.040 --> 0:23:03.200 This was an excellent match, and then the main event 0:23:03.240 --> 0:23:06.080 was c Him Punk and Adam Page. Tons of heat. 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:09.200 It was it was like there were people who wanted 0:23:09.200 --> 0:23:11.440 Page to win, there were people who wanted Punk to win, 0:23:11.760 --> 0:23:14.359 but instead of like cheering wildly the one that they 0:23:14.359 --> 0:23:17.040 wanted to win, they just booed the other guy. So 0:23:17.080 --> 0:23:19.440 it sounded like a match where the crowd hated both 0:23:19.480 --> 0:23:23.359 guys but they actually loved their guy, but booed louder 0:23:23.359 --> 0:23:25.760 for the guy that they didn't want to win, and uh, 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:28.440 c Him Punk ended up hitting the GTS. He won 0:23:28.480 --> 0:23:31.040 the title for Madam Page, and despite all of the 0:23:31.080 --> 0:23:33.400 booing for CM Punk at certain points during the match, 0:23:33.720 --> 0:23:35.879