Speaker 1: Hey, this is Brian Alvarez and this is today's edition
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Speaker 1: joining us after the break, and obviously I get a
Speaker 1: lot to talk about here, don't we. So I'm gonna
Speaker 1: go over a little bit of the news, talk a
Speaker 1: little bit about the Double or Nothing Show, and then
Speaker 1: what do you want to know about the weekend? Ask
Speaker 1: me anything about w Double or Nothing weekend? And then
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Speaker 1: A lot of these, a lot of this stuff will
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Speaker 1: because we're gonna review Double or Nothing weekend, and if
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Speaker 1: And I got a lot to say about those two things,
Speaker 1: but today, obviously m JF Double or Nothing tomorrow's a
Speaker 1: w dynamite. A lot of stuff to talk about from
Speaker 1: the weekend, still recovering, but we're gonna get into all
Speaker 1: of that here today and then the rest of the
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Speaker 1: a lot of great stuff coming up and had a
Speaker 1: lot over this weekend. So back in a moment with
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Speaker 1: him are Live, Mike smber Vide also wrestling Observative him
Speaker 1: And before I get going here very quickly, I'll let
Speaker 1: you go first, real fast, how's the show overall? What
Speaker 1: this one? It was fantastic. You talking about double or Nothing.
Speaker 1: No one cares about this show that was double or
Speaker 1: Nothing that wasn't on TV. Was good. It was good.
Speaker 1: It was long, and I'm sure everybody has heard that
Speaker 1: one by now. But and so there were some matches
Speaker 1: one could argue could have been, you know, set aside
Speaker 1: for Wednesday or something like that. But the show as
Speaker 1: a whole was really really good and there was again
Speaker 1: a little bit of something for everybody there. Everybody can
Speaker 1: pick nits over the things they liked, and they didn't
Speaker 1: like out of the show, but overall, I think it
Speaker 1: was a success. I should started talking about MGF first,
Speaker 1: or what do we want to do? I heard you
Speaker 1: got beat up. I got beat up. After forget about that.
Speaker 1: We got important things to talk about here today. Brother. Okay,
Speaker 1: listens MGF story all right, listen. I want to make
Speaker 1: this a budly clear. Okay. I don't know what's going on. Okay,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's going on, but I knew I
Speaker 1: know what happened, like I know what publicly occurred. Okay.
Speaker 1: So there was supposed to be a meet and greet
Speaker 1: with m JF and he wasn't there. He didn't show
Speaker 1: and uh, and people were very very angry. People in
Speaker 1: the company were very very angry. So as we'll get
Speaker 1: to here, if this is a work, they didn't clude
Speaker 1: anybody into this on Saturday, fans were furious, and that
Speaker 1: I can tell you happened. Okay. Now from that point on,
Speaker 1: from that point on, listen to me. There are a
Speaker 1: lot of stories out on the internet right now. Okay,
Speaker 1: there's a lot of stories out on the internet, all right. Now,
Speaker 1: do I believe that m JF at some point in
Speaker 1: the past felt that he deserved more money than he
Speaker 1: was getting. Yes, okay. Do I believe that he got
Speaker 1: a raise at some point between when he signed and today? Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: Now do I believe deep down that whenever he's making
Speaker 1: MGF feels he deserves more? Of course, of course, do
Speaker 1: I believe everything that is out there on the internet
Speaker 1: right now about m JF. Can you tell by my
Speaker 1: face all of you watching on video listen, I don't
Speaker 1: know what's going on. Okay, I know a lot of
Speaker 1: people are are I saw some stuff on the board. Oh,
Speaker 1: the reporting this weekend was was so horrible. Actually it wasn't. Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe it was. Listen. Here's the thing. I've talked to
Speaker 1: so many people about this story, okay, and there's there's
Speaker 1: two things all and the either either nobody knows or
Speaker 1: like every single person is you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying here, Mike, I know what
Speaker 1: you're saying. I don't. I don't trust any of this.
Speaker 1: And and listen here I'll put I'll put it this
Speaker 1: way too. How many times has there been something that's
Speaker 1: happened in wrestling and all the fans immediately go, this
Speaker 1: is a work, And I immediately every time say, don't
Speaker 1: assume that everything is a work as it was exactly
Speaker 1: this exacting thing happened with Sasha and Bailey. Like when
Speaker 1: the Sasha Bailey thing, everybody thought it was a work
Speaker 1: and it wasn't a work, okay, and uh, and many
Speaker 1: many times, I am anti conspiracy, I am anti presuming everything.
Speaker 1: So that should tell you something when I don't trust
Speaker 1: any of this, Okay, So I do believe that whatever
Speaker 1: is happening, you know. We there was a press conference
Speaker 1: on on Saturday night. A lot of people have talked
Speaker 1: about and and Tony was asked about m JF and uh,
Speaker 1: and Tony con said I'm not I'm not going to
Speaker 1: talk about MJF. Okay. And then a lot of people
Speaker 1: are like, angry, Oh, why did you guys follow up
Speaker 1: on it? Okay, well a he said he wasn't gonna
Speaker 1: talk about m JF. What do your mean to do?
Speaker 1: Keep asking? That's number one? And number two we did, Okay.
Speaker 1: We tried to get info on this from Tony Khn
Speaker 1: before the press conference, We tried to get info from
Speaker 1: Tony Khn during the press conference, and in fact we
Speaker 1: asked again after the press conference, and every single time
Speaker 1: Tony said, I'm not talking about this now, perhaps everybody,
Speaker 1: perhaps everybody is lying to me. But Tony allegedly from
Speaker 1: what I've been told, is not talking to anybody about this. So,
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny that there's so much information out
Speaker 1: on the internet about what's going on, despite the fact
Speaker 1: that Tony and uh and virtually nobody knows anything or
Speaker 1: is talking about anything. But there's a lot of information
Speaker 1: out there. It seems kind of weird. So anyway, Uh,
Speaker 1: long story short, I don't trust any of this. I
Speaker 1: think that MGF is going to be back at some point.
Speaker 1: I believe that. That's what I believe. So, uh, whatever
Speaker 1: you want to believe is whatever you want to believe. Okay,
Speaker 1: I only know for sure. I only know for sure
Speaker 1: that he didn't show up at the meet and greet,
Speaker 1: and he did show up at the pay per view.
Speaker 1: He showed up in the last second, he did his match,
Speaker 1: and then he left. Okay, that's what I know. Now,
Speaker 1: I'm very, very skeptical that if this is all real,
Speaker 1: Tony Cohn is going to continue advertising this match until
Speaker 1: the very last second when that guy ain't in the building.
Speaker 1: At one o'clock, but they never from from the moment
Speaker 1: the show started. It was listed as number and before
Speaker 1: the show started, I mean earlier the day, like noon,
Speaker 1: whenever everybody was there at the building, the lineup had
Speaker 1: MGF going on first. It never changed, it was never removed.
Speaker 1: But he showed up like five minutes before the show,
Speaker 1: like Tony trusted that he was going to do that,
Speaker 1: and then and then he left immediately afterwards because you know,
Speaker 1: clearly he did not want to hang out in that
Speaker 1: locker room, probably because you know, no one knows what's
Speaker 1: going on, and uh, I don't think he wanted to
Speaker 1: talk to people about what was going on. Now, if
Speaker 1: you want to conclude that that's because well there's a
Speaker 1: serious issue going on here between Tony Con and m JF,
Speaker 1: then you know you're welcome to I don't know, maybe
Speaker 1: that is what's going on. I don't trust it. So
Speaker 1: that's the MJF story, everybody. Uh, he did his job,
Speaker 1: he got out of there. I don't think you're gonna
Speaker 1: see him for a while, but I absolutely believe that
Speaker 1: you're gonna see him again. So there you go. Smells
Speaker 1: like pro wrestling a lot of this, but you don't
Speaker 1: say worker shoot. No matter who was involved, there were
Speaker 1: no winners here. This was not a good thing. You know,
Speaker 1: sometimes the Brian Pillman's and that sort of stuff gets
Speaker 1: romanticized and much like the wrestling we're thirty years past
Speaker 1: a lot of this stuff and some of that those
Speaker 1: same old tricks. Because if this is m JF if look,
Speaker 1: if this is a shoot and he's really upset, then
Speaker 1: shame on him, because you don't let down the fans
Speaker 1: like that. Even though you're upset with the company. You
Speaker 1: can play your gimmick. You can be annoying as you want,
Speaker 1: you can be even extra cruel to people, and people
Speaker 1: just think that's a part of the game. So if
Speaker 1: he's really upset, obviously there's you know, the the issue
Speaker 1: of what would drive him to do something like that.
Speaker 1: But then you're very unprofessional and doing what you're doing
Speaker 1: to the to the fans to try to spite the company.
Speaker 1: If it's a work for him, it was incredibly stupid
Speaker 1: by him because you really left a w and alert.
Speaker 1: She left employees there that are dealing with angry fans
Speaker 1: who paid money to see you, you know, just to
Speaker 1: try to further your gimmick. Or try to play something
Speaker 1: off the past. I think it sucks. And if it
Speaker 1: happens to be a work with Tony Kahn and m JF, yes,
Speaker 1: you can budget that money as money that Okay, we're
Speaker 1: gonna do an angle here and we're gonna lose this
Speaker 1: because we're gonna have to refund people. But in the
Speaker 1: long run, this is something that's really going to play
Speaker 1: into the legacy. If you are doing that type of
Speaker 1: four d hs, then you are really overthinking a lot
Speaker 1: of this stuff because if you wanted to add that
Speaker 1: to the repertoire of what m JF is and so
Speaker 1: people can look back and you work together on this,
Speaker 1: you really screwed over a lot of people. And again
Speaker 1: it may not have any long term lasting effects, but
Speaker 1: it didn't have any positive effects. There's nothing that says
Speaker 1: that this spike pay per view sales or interest on
Speaker 1: Google searches or anything like that. So it was unfortunate
Speaker 1: to the fans that were there. And however it went down,
Speaker 1: whether it be a work or shoot, work that became
Speaker 1: a shoe, a shoot that became a work, and no
Speaker 1: matter who was involved, it was not a good idea
Speaker 1: of period. Point line. Back at a moment with more,
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the whole paper view Observer Live back
Speaker 1: in the show. Brian Elber is here Wrestling Observer Alive
Speaker 1: like super viv also Wrestling Observer dot Com. I greatly
Speaker 1: enjoyed myself at that pay per view. But it's interesting
Speaker 1: because I was sitting front row. I've never sat front
Speaker 1: row in a w show before, which is astonishing given
Speaker 1: I'm paid by Tony con I was gonna say, when
Speaker 1: he handed you the envelope or the front row tickets
Speaker 1: in there, what envelope? What are you talking about? Tony
Speaker 1: handed me an envelope, Tony Leader gave you a gave
Speaker 1: you a handshake. But anyway, so I watched show from
Speaker 1: the front row. Man, I had a really good time,
Speaker 1: and I did hear that. You know, it is always
Speaker 1: the case, and I always mentioned this for live shows.
Speaker 1: Depending on where you were sitting or if you were
Speaker 1: watching it on television, you may have had a different
Speaker 1: perception of certain things because life is subjective everybody. But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what I thought from where I was
Speaker 1: at hook How's and match like six minutes, I mean
Speaker 1: literally was exactly exactly what you would expect. Looking Dan
Speaker 1: Housing beat, Tony Nice and Mark Sterling when Dan Housing
Speaker 1: got the Pandan Housing super over by the way, when
Speaker 1: they hit his music and put his his face up
Speaker 1: on the big Titan tron deal or whatever they call it,
Speaker 1: the A E W Tron, But anyway, it was, it
Speaker 1: was fine. It was from little match Wardlow and m JF.
Speaker 1: So if you didn't see the match, which who hasn't
Speaker 1: heard about this match? Basically, uh, m JF. They played
Speaker 1: his music. At first he didn't come out, then he
Speaker 1: did come out. Then he started doing the flying around
Speaker 1: the ring thing to uh mark the fans, and uh.
Speaker 1: He kept avoiding wordlow, avoiding word low, avoiding wordlow, and
Speaker 1: finally a little bit of heat. He goes to put
Speaker 1: the ring on, but the rest behind him, the ref
Speaker 1: sees it. The ref pulls the ring off. MGF takes
Speaker 1: five power bombs. Warlow puts the boot on him for
Speaker 1: the pin, but then takes the boot off at two,
Speaker 1: gives him five more power bombs and then pins him
Speaker 1: and they strutchered out. MJF put the nick brace on
Speaker 1: the whole nine yards I mean when it was over,
Speaker 1: you know, because of the the the story, the MGF
Speaker 1: story a lot of people were immediately, oh man, he's
Speaker 1: being written off. He's he's out of the territory. This
Speaker 1: was like the blowoff of the character, etcetera, etcetera. But
Speaker 1: the funny thing is, like when I this was exactly
Speaker 1: and if if you remember everybody, we're talking about this
Speaker 1: months ago on Brighton Vinney and my my booking was
Speaker 1: he should be power bomb thirty times, right, Well he
Speaker 1: got ten and then he's out of there. So this
Speaker 1: thing started two and a half years ago, So what
Speaker 1: did you want for the blowoff of the storyline? This
Speaker 1: is exactly how it should have ended, even if the
Speaker 1: guy is sticking around. More so in fact, because they
Speaker 1: didn't blow off the diamond ring. He didn't hit him
Speaker 1: with the ring. Lord Low didn't kick out the diamond
Speaker 1: ring and the one wing and angel or the two
Speaker 1: most protected things in a W and bro. This guy
Speaker 1: is out of here and he's leaving and he's not
Speaker 1: coming back. You blow off the ring, but they didn't.
Speaker 1: So that was that. The heart Ease and the Young Bucks,
Speaker 1: this was very hit and miss early, mostly because Jeff
Speaker 1: Hardy is uh, I mean, this dude is beat up
Speaker 1: bad and uh, the heart Ease and the Young Bucks.
Speaker 1: The Young Bucks clearly wanted to go in there and
Speaker 1: give them one last great Hardy Boys match, because man,
Speaker 1: they were working so hard, particularly from the front row
Speaker 1: watching Nick Jackson in there. This guy worked for like
Speaker 1: fifty guys in one night. Probably just exhausted after this match,
Speaker 1: but man, they they I thought by the end they
Speaker 1: had a very very good match. And it has since
Speaker 1: been announced there was a ten man tag that was
Speaker 1: scheduled for Dynamite that featured of Hardy and Jeff. Hardy
Speaker 1: has been pulled from the match. So, I mean he
Speaker 1: was hurt going into the match, and I think it's
Speaker 1: clear they're like, this dude needs time to get better.
Speaker 1: So he's pulled, and uh it is now an eight man.
Speaker 1: And so they also pulled Adam Cole and I've been
Speaker 1: told that Adam Cole also hurt, So both of the
Speaker 1: guys were hurt. They didn't just pull Adam Cole because
Speaker 1: they wanted to go from a ten man to an
Speaker 1: eight man. Adam Cole he's injured as well. You could
Speaker 1: see that his his shoulder was all taped up, so, uh,
Speaker 1: whatever is going on, Like he's also getting time off
Speaker 1: to to heal. But I thought the match was good.
Speaker 1: Other people did not think the match was good. So
Speaker 1: Jake Cargill n J I did not think was very good.
Speaker 1: And I actually thought that Jake Cargil looked pretty good.
Speaker 1: But they had a match before that was very good.
Speaker 1: And Uh, I don't know what happened here, but Anna
Speaker 1: j looked like she was lost at points. It just
Speaker 1: how long did they go? They went, uh seven minutes
Speaker 1: and they did shoot the big angle afterwards where we
Speaker 1: got the debut of the former Athena or the former
Speaker 1: Amber Moon. She's now Athena, so she debuted. Afterwards, Chris
Speaker 1: stat Landard was out there. They did a Jade Cargill
Speaker 1: stat LANDERD stare down and after rampage when the fans
Speaker 1: totally turned on Ruby soho because they wanted uh A
Speaker 1: stat LANDERD to win. I don't know if stat Lander's
Speaker 1: gonna beat Jade Cargill, but when they did that stair
Speaker 1: down and uh, and I saw the reaction to stat
Speaker 1: LANDERD on Friday, I would not be surprised if they
Speaker 1: did that house a black beat. The Death Triangle smatch
Speaker 1: was awesome and uh at the end they finally pulled
Speaker 1: the trigger on the Julia heart turn. Thank God not
Speaker 1: a moment too soon, and she cost Death Triangle the match.
Speaker 1: This was one of the best matches on the show.
Speaker 1: Adam Cole beat some O Joe to win the men's
Speaker 1: Owen Heart Tournament, and Britt Baker beat Ruby Oho to
Speaker 1: when the women's tournament, I thought Ruby Soho was gonna win,
Speaker 1: but clearly they wanted the Adam Cole Britt Baker, they're
Speaker 1: a couple. They both won. Uh. They did a deal
Speaker 1: afterwards with Martha Hart where h Tony Khn basically said,
Speaker 1: go out there and talk as long as you want.
Speaker 1: I bought an extra hour of pay per view time.
Speaker 1: So she went out there and she did this great
Speaker 1: speech and the people were chanting Owen his name, and
Speaker 1: Cole and Baker are standing there like they're both heels.
Speaker 1: But they're out there and they're like the biggest baby faces,
Speaker 1: getting these trophies and hugging and kissing the fans like
Speaker 1: they're both heels. But when they kissed, the fans are like,
Speaker 1: how sweet it is. And then of course we got
Speaker 1: Sammy and Tie where when they kiss, that's some heat
Speaker 1: we had. Uh. And speaking of Ethan Page Scorpius sky
Speaker 1: Page Vans and versus Frankie Sammy Gavara and Thai Conti
Speaker 1: Page Vans and totally not ready to go live and uh,
Speaker 1: stuff didn't look good the guys, for the most part,
Speaker 1: everything looked great. They had Sammy and Tye constantly kissing,
Speaker 1: to the point that Frankie Kazarian, their partner, eventually was like, dude,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. He goes to walk, but then
Speaker 1: he wanted to win, so he came back and Uh. Ultimately,
Speaker 1: Uh Sammy accidentally super kick Tai Conti. That was the
Speaker 1: big spot in the match, and American Top Team ended
Speaker 1: up getting the win. So it's not clear because they
Speaker 1: said it two ways. Uh Sammy Gavara and Uh Frankie
Speaker 1: Kazarian can either never challenge for the TNT title again,
Speaker 1: or they can never challenge as long as Scorpio Sky
Speaker 1: as the champion. On Friday they said never ever on
Speaker 1: the paper view SID as long as Scorpio Sky was champion.
Speaker 1: So I'm not sure exactly which one it is at
Speaker 1: this point. Kyla Riley Darby Allen. They got ten minutes.
Speaker 1: It was great. It would have been better if they
Speaker 1: would have had more time, but they didn't and Kyla
Speaker 1: Riley beat this dude clean in the middle of the ring,
Speaker 1: So I don't know what Kyle's being built for something.
Speaker 1: I don't know what it's gonna be. But he beat
Speaker 1: him clean, so I was surprised. Match was crazy. Thunder
Speaker 1: Rosa serena deep. Where I was sitting, the crowd seemed
Speaker 1: very quiet for about the first half of this match.
Speaker 1: They did get into it at the end, and it
Speaker 1: was a very good match. But I heard from like
Speaker 1: wherever Dave was ad he goes oh, they were crolled
Speaker 1: crazy the hole match, So wherever you were, you apparently
Speaker 1: got a different take than than I did. But it
Speaker 1: was a good match, don't get me wrong, it was
Speaker 1: a very good match. Thunder Rosa retains. She is still
Speaker 1: the champion. Jericho Appreciation Siety versus the Blackpool Combat Club
Speaker 1: was the craziest match you ever saw. And uh, I
Speaker 1: was front row, so I missed a lot because if
Speaker 1: you were like in the suites, you could see the
Speaker 1: entire arena, can see anything that's going on. Obviously, if
Speaker 1: you're at home, you could see everything that was going on.
Speaker 1: I could only see what was happening at ringside, which
Speaker 1: was a lot, and they had a crazy, wild, awesome brawl.
Speaker 1: They played Moxi's music two times through, and after they
Speaker 1: played it the first time through, they started playing at
Speaker 1: the second was like a new Jack match, and the
Speaker 1: fans they did the biggest pop when they started playing
Speaker 1: the music again. I thought they were gonna play the
Speaker 1: music through the entire match, and it was actually furious
Speaker 1: when they shut it off. But given the match went
Speaker 1: twenty three minutes, it was the right call for Chris
Speaker 1: Jericho rock Star. His character hates rock music and so
Speaker 1: he destroyed the sound board and the music shut off,
Speaker 1: and I thought this match was probably the best match
Speaker 1: on the show. Jurassic Express versus Keith Lee and Swerves,
Speaker 1: Drickland and Powerhousehobbies and Rookie Starts another great match and
Speaker 1: uh Tony con mentioned in the post show press conference,
Speaker 1: and it's true, there have never been there's never been
Speaker 1: an a W pay per view where the last three
Speaker 1: matches had this much heat. And it was a long
Speaker 1: show and this crowd should have been dead tired, but man,
Speaker 1: there was heat for this match. And Jurassic Express one.
Speaker 1: They're still doing the slow turn to the Christian turning
Speaker 1: on Jungle Boy, but they haven't hold the trigger yet.
Speaker 1: This was an excellent match, and then the main event
Speaker 1: was c Him Punk and Adam Page. Tons of heat.
Speaker 1: It was it was like there were people who wanted
Speaker 1: Page to win, there were people who wanted Punk to win,
Speaker 1: but instead of like cheering wildly the one that they
Speaker 1: wanted to win, they just booed the other guy. So
Speaker 1: it sounded like a match where the crowd hated both
Speaker 1: guys but they actually loved their guy, but booed louder
Speaker 1: for the guy that they didn't want to win, and uh,
Speaker 1: c Him Punk ended up hitting the GTS. He won
Speaker 1: the title for Madam Page, and despite all of the
Speaker 1: booing for CM Punk at certain points during the match,
Speaker 1: this dude won the title and it was a percent
Speaker 1: cheers and they went crazy for this guy, and he
Speaker 1: played his music at FTR came out to give him
Speaker 1: the big hug and he did a post show baby
Speaker 1: face promo putting over his wife from the locker room
Speaker 1: and the fans and FTR, and he left like the
Speaker 1: biggest baby face you ever saw. It was a very
Speaker 1: good main event Nude Champion and man, when this show
Speaker 1: was over, I thought it wasn't the greatest a W
Speaker 1: show I ever saw, uh Man, I had a good time.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to Mike after the break. You guys may
Speaker 1: luck out. You may not get a raw report today.
Speaker 1: Back in a moment as you were lying, all right,
Speaker 1: two things very quickly and then we'll go to Mike.
Speaker 1: If you go to my Twitter at Brian Alvarez, I
Speaker 1: have retweeted a link to a go fund me for
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Speaker 1: since we don't have a we normally for the Twitch
Speaker 1: the paying at Twitch homies, we usually do a post
Speaker 1: pay per view show, but we didn't do it because
Speaker 1: we were all in Vegas. So tonight the Brian and
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Speaker 1: midnight Easter. We're gonna have a party talking about this
Speaker 1: show in Vegas and spare airlines that thing and the
Speaker 1: America's restaurant for once. Well, God did not bless this
Speaker 1: America anyway, Let's do this, Mike, anything you want to
Speaker 1: add any of that? I got a question for you,
Speaker 1: actually ask me anything. Everybody but did not watch the
Speaker 1: highly controversial or whatever it is press conference, the the
Speaker 1: much bally Hooden talked about press conference which took place afterwards.
Speaker 1: So did anybody ask and questioned Tony Khan as to
Speaker 1: really why he decided to try to counter program the
Speaker 1: NBA Eastern Conference Finals and add more matches because it
Speaker 1: didn't seem to make any sense to do that. It
Speaker 1: seemed to me that, you know, if you were going
Speaker 1: to pay fifty bucks, you were going to pay fifty
Speaker 1: bucks and neither DVR the game or DVR the wrestling event.
Speaker 1: And then go back and rewatch it. But I was
Speaker 1: because Kylo Riley, Darby, Because here's the thing, Darby Allen
Speaker 1: and Kylo Riley, you asked, you know what comes next? Here?
Speaker 1: For Kylo Riley, seems like they were setting him up
Speaker 1: for something. I hope it's Darby Hallen because I think
Speaker 1: building up to a feud with the two of those
Speaker 1: two guys I think would be great. I don't know
Speaker 1: if in the cards, but I mean they worked together
Speaker 1: fantastic and it seemed like something that was just thrown
Speaker 1: on their same thing with men here. Let me ask,
Speaker 1: let me ask the question then, so so they this
Speaker 1: has been done before with other supporting events boxing. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's the but he gave. But he he said doesn't
Speaker 1: make sense. It does make sense because he said, we
Speaker 1: got a significant amount of buys after the game was over,
Speaker 1: Like people did wait until the game ended and then
Speaker 1: bought to watch it live. So they what is that thing?
Speaker 1: What does that mean? Because a significant number of buys
Speaker 1: taking place at eleven o'clock at night Eastern time on
Speaker 1: a Sunday night on Memorial Day weekend, I mean that's impressive.
Speaker 1: That would be a game changing sort of thing. If
Speaker 1: you were able to jog the troops like that? So
Speaker 1: did they? Did anybody question that further? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: he's got the numbers. We don't. But here's the other thing.
Speaker 1: Here's the other thing. What is this air on br Live? Okay?
Speaker 1: But but but one and yes in North America? Question
Speaker 1: is or fight? Is there's on fight? There's on fighting
Speaker 1: Europe for sure, I don't know about Canada. Okay, where's
Speaker 1: my question? Does it go up immediately afterwards? Because? Okay, Well,
Speaker 1: there's the thing like, so if if if you wanted
Speaker 1: to order it and then you were going to watch
Speaker 1: the game and then watch the replay, well, if it
Speaker 1: doesn't go up immediately, you can't, right, so just order
Speaker 1: on cable? Then well I don't have cable. I don't
Speaker 1: even have that option. A lot of people don't have cable. Okay.
Speaker 1: I just the thought that somebody's gonna spend fifty bucks
Speaker 1: over I guess the last two matches. I mean that
Speaker 1: that's such a boxing way to think about your show then,
Speaker 1: because it's like, well, the main event is the the
Speaker 1: only thing on this you want to see. We were
Speaker 1: just doing a bunch of preliminaries that lead into this
Speaker 1: match that we're going to have go in the ring
Speaker 1: at nine o'clock Pacific time, you know, twelve o'clock Eastern.
Speaker 1: And I just again it was that's an interesting philosophy
Speaker 1: to have, and I am very interested to know exactly
Speaker 1: how many buys they score late because that would change
Speaker 1: I to me, that's a mind changing type of thing
Speaker 1: to happen. So I'm very I'm highly interested in that.
Speaker 1: The cameras the camera has been on me the entire
Speaker 1: time you've been talking. Oh now it's on you anyway. Hey, listen,
Speaker 1: all I'm gonna say is this. Okay, if you don't
Speaker 1: want to believe Tony con, that's fine, all right. I
Speaker 1: think he's telling me that. I think he's telling me
Speaker 1: that I would like. Okay, But here's my point, bro.
Speaker 1: You know what I've learned over the years. There's a
Speaker 1: lot of things. No, there's a lot of things that
Speaker 1: don't make any sense to me, but they happen. Okay, Dude,
Speaker 1: who in God's name sits through three hours of raw?
Speaker 1: It doesn't make any sense, but they do. Who watches
Speaker 1: n x T two poy No besides me? Willingly Well,
Speaker 1: it doesn seem like anybody would but they do. Who
Speaker 1: would watch the game and then by the pay per
Speaker 1: view and the don't know, but they do. Like That's
Speaker 1: what I've learned. There's so many things in wrestling that
Speaker 1: when I think about, it's like, why would someone do
Speaker 1: that like they do? Like air anything on BR Live,
Speaker 1: something is gonna have to give at some point. I
Speaker 1: had to order it on traditional cable because I had
Speaker 1: all sorts of problems with br Alive, which is not
Speaker 1: the first time, people trying to sign in people who
Speaker 1: ordered it in advance and having all those sorts of issues. Apparently,
Speaker 1: I guess there were also issues on the cable end
Speaker 1: where even though Tony conn although I have not heard this,
Speaker 1: the first time I heard it was last Night with
Speaker 1: You and Dave about cable companies, I guess going off
Speaker 1: the original schedule and having that cut off at midnight.
Speaker 1: I don't see how that happens in two thousand twenty two.
Speaker 1: But again it's you know, I'm surprised about a lot
Speaker 1: of things technolog technologically apparently from this weekend listen. I
Speaker 1: don't want people to think that, like I just hate
Speaker 1: w w E and I don't understand why anybody would
Speaker 1: watch it. I watch it. Do you know what I
Speaker 1: did on Friday night, on Friday night in Las Vegas.
Speaker 1: I went back to my room at nine pm on
Speaker 1: a Friday night in Las Vegas and I watched SmackDown.
Speaker 1: It was either that or hang out with a great o'con.
Speaker 1: You've probably made a safer decision that. By the way,
Speaker 1: it's a great example of why would anyone do that?
Speaker 1: Well I did. It's your job. Now with that your job,
Speaker 1: don't you? With that said, it's your job. With that said,
Speaker 1: I have a great deal of respect for all of
Speaker 1: the wrestlers in w w E. There. They do their best,
Speaker 1: they try hard, they're they're fighting an uphill battle a
Speaker 1: lot of the time. Often ways you guys have no
Speaker 1: idea about. But at the end of the day, three
Speaker 1: hours of raw is too much. That's the problem. But
Speaker 1: my point is some people do that because in this world,
Speaker 1: people do things that don't make any sense every single day.
Speaker 1: Let me pick a knit here for some people. But
Speaker 1: then let me, I guess, echo what a lot of
Speaker 1: other people are saying. This could have been four hours.
Speaker 1: It may have been better off that way. Some of
Speaker 1: the things. And Jade and Anna Ja they added that
Speaker 1: late um, I get it. They added it before the
Speaker 1: pay per view a couple of days beforehand, even though
Speaker 1: they seemed like they were just going to throw it
Speaker 1: on there. But I understand wanting to have Jade on
Speaker 1: the pay per view. The other two matches don't make
Speaker 1: much sense because Cole and Joe didn't get as much
Speaker 1: time as I thought they were going to get. And
Speaker 1: that's a match where you know, if you're keeping an eye.
Speaker 1: If the Eastern Conference Finals was so important, having whatever
Speaker 1: it was ten matches on the show originally, when you
Speaker 1: have talent like Page and Punk, when you have the
Speaker 1: House of Black and Death Triangle, though, giving them more
Speaker 1: time to do anything else probably would have been a
Speaker 1: dangerous idea. They did incredible, an incredible, incredible job. But
Speaker 1: when you have Cole and Joe, when you have Rosa
Speaker 1: and Deep, when you have the other stuff, I mean,
Speaker 1: all you have to do is keep an eye on
Speaker 1: o'clock if you're that worried about it, and have some
Speaker 1: of those people try to go a little bit longer.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if that if the game would have
Speaker 1: went into like five overtimes, it wouldn't have mattered anyway.
Speaker 1: So I'm very I'm very prize. It was very surprised
Speaker 1: on Friday doing this show, and I'm surprised even more
Speaker 1: coming out of this that he was so concerned with
Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference finals. This person here says, when you
Speaker 1: go to live shows, do you cheer and boo or
Speaker 1: just observe what the fans are doing? I just observe.
Speaker 1: I'm an observer, That's all I do. Watch double or nothing.
Speaker 1: Right after I started while the show was airing. When
Speaker 1: the actual show ended, I to refresh, but it did
Speaker 1: pick up where it had left off. There you go.
Speaker 1: Does that is at the beginning or I'm not sure
Speaker 1: what he meant. Uh, let's see. Should I do the
Speaker 1: raw report? Everybody? I mean, we have a lot of time.
Speaker 1: He was offering any other questions? You guys have what
Speaker 1: else they got? What else they got anything? Come on, guys,
Speaker 1: step it up. Seven zero seven five six six talking?
Speaker 1: I thought you opened up the phone lines. No, alright, Well,
Speaker 1: I'll be happy to do the raw report by Le'll
Speaker 1: make it quick. Everybody. Well, if you have plenty of questions,
Speaker 1: well have you had plenty of questions? Where are they?
Speaker 1: What do you want to do about? I give you, guys,
Speaker 1: I give you guys notes at the beginning to to
Speaker 1: get your questions in. Apparently nobody did, for real, for real,
Speaker 1: did you great o'con make it home safely? Was there
Speaker 1: any reporting coming out of the New Japan camp that
Speaker 1: that O'Connor had to be corralled anywhere roving around the
Speaker 1: desert or he and Filthy Tom hooked up in something
Speaker 1: actually down? Forget the raw report. There's a bunch of
Speaker 1: news I didn't even talk about today that huh. Alright,
Speaker 1: So tonight n XT two, boy now everyone's favorite show.
Speaker 1: We have got a Championship Summit toxic attraction in Wendy Chew,
Speaker 1: Katana Chance and Caden Carter. We have got Cameron Grimes
Speaker 1: versus Nathan Frasier, non titled. We actually have the finals
Speaker 1: of the Breakout Tournament. They added that, like earlier today,
Speaker 1: out of nowhere, it will be Roxane Perez versus Tiffany Stratton,
Speaker 1: Cora Jade versus Electoral Lopez, and THEA Hale will reveal
Speaker 1: what school she's going to live on the show tonight.
Speaker 1: She's just graduated high school. Hey, now she's gonna go
Speaker 1: on to uh. I notice she didn't say college. She
Speaker 1: mentioned college applications, but she said she would reveal which
Speaker 1: school she was going to. I'm sure that she was
Speaker 1: university is actually in college. You know, when braun Breaker
Speaker 1: is all said and done with Joe Gayzy, we're going
Speaker 1: to get a Joe Gacy in all of his minions
Speaker 1: against Chase. You feud, aren't we? They would do that,
Speaker 1: wouldn't I Finals of the Best of the super Juniors
Speaker 1: Herromo and El Desperato. Horomo beat Desperado in the Best
Speaker 1: of the super Junior Finals. Apparently then we had like
Speaker 1: a you know, a pandemic or whatever. So let's try
Speaker 1: it again. Best the Finals. Jake Atlas arrested in Orlando,
Speaker 1: so I'm not even sure how much of the story
Speaker 1: I can even say on the air. So Atlas was
Speaker 1: at a bar with friends. He called his partner and
Speaker 1: asked his partner to join him. The partner joined him.
Speaker 1: Atlas then said that he wanted to leave the bar
Speaker 1: to go quote to a female friend's house to engage
Speaker 1: in sexual activities. I don't think those were his exact words,
Speaker 1: but that is the quote in the police report right here.
Speaker 1: A few friends then relocated. Police Sports States Atlas and
Speaker 1: his domestic partner got into a verbal argument at the
Speaker 1: friend's house after atlas partner quote showed more attention to
Speaker 1: the female half than to Atlas, reports states, and Atlas
Speaker 1: became quote physically aggressive and charged at his partner. A
Speaker 1: friend twice stepped between them, but after the second time,
Speaker 1: Atlas scratched his partner's forearm and tore his shirt. Police
Speaker 1: Sports states Atlas was given multiple opportunities to leave the
Speaker 1: scene without further instant refused, at which point the police
Speaker 1: were called. The arresting officer stated Atlas was given quote
Speaker 1: multiple opportunities to tell his side, however, he was only
Speaker 1: interested in talking bad about his partner, and so based
Speaker 1: on the scratches, the officer found probable cause to arrest
Speaker 1: Atlas on a misdemeanor battery charge. Was released from jail
Speaker 1: later that day signed an agreement he would have no
Speaker 1: contact with the alleged victim must stay five feet away.
Speaker 1: I've heard nothing about his a W status. I know
Speaker 1: that they announced that he was all elite, but he
Speaker 1: was not on the roster page. And someone did tell
Speaker 1: me yesterday that he was actually on a on a
Speaker 1: per show deal and so that's why he was not listed.
Speaker 1: It was like he was removed from the roster page.
Speaker 1: And also there were there were believe it or not,
Speaker 1: And you know, this weekend is probably the reason because
Speaker 1: there's so much going on. But there were a bunch
Speaker 1: of people in a w this morning. They had no
Speaker 1: idea about this story. So I don't know what's gonna
Speaker 1: be uh, what's gonna be done? If anything, But that
Speaker 1: is the story on Jake Atlas back in a up
Speaker 1: with more Observer Live back in the show Bright nowbre
Speaker 1: is here Wrestling Observer Live mix sumber Viv also Wrestling
Speaker 1: Observer dot Com. Terry here says, Grizzled Young Vets, my
Speaker 1: prediction for Joe Gacy as hooded men probably right, makes
Speaker 1: some sense, Like I show Vets. Yeah sure, God this leads.
Speaker 1: If this leads to Braun. If this leads to Joe
Speaker 1: Gazy and the grizzled Young Vets versus braun Breaker and
Speaker 1: the Steiners, I'm all for it. Are you serious? You
Speaker 1: come on? But it's not. Man. Can you imagine Scott
Speaker 1: Steiner just punching through people? Yeah? I can imagine that.
Speaker 1: I saw it. Fortunately, then he started living the gimmick.
Speaker 1: Remember when he drove over the construction worker in Georgia.
Speaker 1: They had the road blocked. He's like, I'm going through,
Speaker 1: and the guy said you can't go through, and Scott
Speaker 1: Seiner said, yeah, I am, and he basically drove over
Speaker 1: him and right through everything. And then then that man
Speaker 1: manages Showny's It's been a hell of a life for
Speaker 1: Scott Steiner. I'm not sure if this person serious or not.
Speaker 1: But they said, why is it okay to advertise Lacy
Speaker 1: Evans and she not appear? I look forward to her
Speaker 1: match and her not a dude and a scripted show
Speaker 1: and advertising may have vent upset me and numerous fans.
Speaker 1: Why is nothing said about her? But Sasha and Naomi
Speaker 1: got buried? Bro Sasha Naomi walked out at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show. They walked out of a schedule appearance.
Speaker 1: Lacey Evans was advertised, and then Vince changed his mind
Speaker 1: and didn't want the segment on the show. Nothing to
Speaker 1: do with Lacy Evans. If she's gonna be a heel,
Speaker 1: can you imagine debuting her on a more the old
Speaker 1: day as a hell dude? I was thinking that exact
Speaker 1: same thing. I was like, wait a second. So, but
Speaker 1: the big question is if That's the reason she wasn't
Speaker 1: on the show. It's like, so you didn't know last
Speaker 1: week that this coming Monday was memorial. You didn't know that.
Speaker 1: You just found out like over the weekend. I mean,
Speaker 1: I put nothing past Vince, but anyway, No, he loves
Speaker 1: those highlight packages. He knew. Hey, Lance is on. It's Tuesday.
Speaker 1: He'll be on a two Pacific five easter. When we
Speaker 1: talked about a lot of different stuff, it's gonna be
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