1 00:00:05,519 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Is the Iowa farmboy turned reality show hard Thromp looking 2 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,920 Speaker 1: for love on season nineteen of ABC's The Bachelor. But 3 00:00:13,039 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 1: today Chris Souls finds himself starring in a very different 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:22,480 Speaker 1: kind of drama character. The victim, Kenneth Moger, was Souls 5 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: his neighbor in their small town, Iowa community. The grandfather 6 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 1: of three and Vietnam War veteran, died from his injuries 7 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:33,520 Speaker 1: at the hospital hours after the accident. This is Crime 8 00:00:33,640 --> 00:00:40,320 Speaker 1: Stories with Nancy Grace What's your Name? Critical Souls was uninjured, 9 00:00:40,360 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: but police say they had to track him down after 10 00:00:42,840 --> 00:00:46,240 Speaker 1: the accident. He was at present when the cops arrived 11 00:00:46,640 --> 00:00:50,680 Speaker 1: in order to submit to a field sobriety test. Did 12 00:00:50,680 --> 00:00:54,720 Speaker 1: he just gets scared and are hardly eating seen the 13 00:00:54,840 --> 00:01:02,000 Speaker 1: accident death Dancing with the star is Oh, Dear Lord 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: in heaven, there were there couldn't be four more words 15 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:09,160 Speaker 1: that would strike fear in my heart. I would rather 16 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,600 Speaker 1: try a serial killer then hear those four words, because 17 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:19,160 Speaker 1: that meant I had already come down those tall stairs 18 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: the whole time going oh Lord, please don't let me fall. 19 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:23,880 Speaker 1: Don't let me fall. If I have to fall and 20 00:01:23,920 --> 00:01:26,560 Speaker 1: break my neck, at least let it be during a 21 00:01:26,640 --> 00:01:30,480 Speaker 1: dance routine, not coming down the stairs, and then there 22 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 1: would be that moment where you had to start your 23 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: dance routine. The reason I'm talking about this is because 24 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 1: a reality TV star, a veteran of Dansing with the 25 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:51,240 Speaker 1: Stars and Bachelorette and Bachelor as Now, what would you say. 26 00:01:51,280 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: I wouldn't call him inmate number five, four or three 27 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: to one, but I would say he's definitely got a 28 00:01:57,360 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: booking number assigned to him. I'm talking, of course about 29 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Bachelor Chris Souls. I Meancy Grace. This is crime stories 30 00:02:07,600 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: and joining me in addition to the Duke, Alan Deep 31 00:02:10,720 --> 00:02:15,480 Speaker 1: is high profile lawyer on the Dahlia Dippolito case, joining 32 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:19,240 Speaker 1: me from his plush digs in the l A area. 33 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool. Brian, thank you for being with us. Great 34 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:25,480 Speaker 1: to be back, Nancy. And before we even started, I 35 00:02:25,520 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 1: want to let you know I'm gonna wave my conflict 36 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:31,320 Speaker 1: of interest on this story because my phone blew up 37 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: calling in votes for you when you were on Dancing 38 00:02:34,160 --> 00:02:39,080 Speaker 1: with the Stars. I'm gonna have to put that inside today. 39 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:41,920 Speaker 1: Oh man, I would be Look, can I tell you 40 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 1: one more thing? I had so many neat missteps during 41 00:02:44,919 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 1: Dancing with the Stars. I worked on a split all week. 42 00:02:50,240 --> 00:02:52,959 Speaker 1: I did splits. The night I was supposed to do 43 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: the split, my shoe got stuck in my long dress 44 00:02:56,919 --> 00:02:58,800 Speaker 1: and the split didn't happen. I mean, it was just 45 00:02:58,840 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 1: one thing after the next, you know. So I can't 46 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:05,640 Speaker 1: believe I made it to the as I say, coveted 47 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: final whatever it was, Final four, final five. Anyway, that 48 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 1: was a miracle. All right. Now let's get back to 49 00:03:13,520 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 1: Chris Souls. This is what I know. Chris Souls rear 50 00:03:18,760 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: ended a John Dear tractor in the middle of nowhere. 51 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,200 Speaker 1: And I say that in the best sense because that's 52 00:03:26,240 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: where I come from, the middle of nowhere, where tractors 53 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: would be on the road. I made him on a tractor. 54 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: It can't be going over fifteen miles miles an hour, 55 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: I mean, like really slowly going down the street, the 56 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:44,880 Speaker 1: man minding his own business. How can you rear end 57 00:03:45,440 --> 00:03:50,280 Speaker 1: a tractor without some degree of recklessness. Anyway, So the 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 1: guy Kenneth Mosure, it's thrown off the tractor. He lands 59 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 1: in the ditch where he dies, and the bachelor Chris 60 00:04:02,520 --> 00:04:06,640 Speaker 1: Old calls nine one one to his credit. I mean, 61 00:04:06,680 --> 00:04:08,360 Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm giving him a gold star 62 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 1: for calling nine one one. Of course he should call 63 00:04:10,240 --> 00:04:15,240 Speaker 1: nine one one, he says his name, which again, why 64 00:04:15,320 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 1: is he getting credit for that? What is should he lie? 65 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:25,320 Speaker 1: He gives an approximate location and then he leaves. He 66 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 1: leaves the scene, and right now he is charged with 67 00:04:30,960 --> 00:04:34,599 Speaker 1: leaving the scene of a crash. But now more is 68 00:04:34,640 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: coming out about was he drinking? Now, Brian Kuypel, I'm 69 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,159 Speaker 1: sure you're gonna whitewash this, but one thing he achieved 70 00:04:43,279 --> 00:04:46,720 Speaker 1: by leaving the scene of the crash is they couldn't 71 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 1: do a breathalyzer on him. He goes about fifteen miles 72 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: to his home in Arlington, goes in his house, shuts 73 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,880 Speaker 1: the door, locks the door. The police track him down 74 00:04:57,920 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: through his red truck and they bam on the door. 75 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 1: He hides out in there, hold up for hours. I mean, 76 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 1: come on, can we just get real on this? How 77 00:05:07,720 --> 00:05:11,920 Speaker 1: many times do you think he t t tried tried 78 00:05:12,000 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: to get that blood alcohol time. I mean, look, I 79 00:05:15,040 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: don't have proof that he had been drinking, but in 80 00:05:17,520 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: the last hours some evidence has come out. Matthew didn't 81 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: His lawyer file emotion on yesterday or today to dismiss 82 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 1: the charges of him fleeing the scene, because, as I understand, 83 00:05:28,520 --> 00:05:32,159 Speaker 1: he also administered some medical aid to the gentleman that 84 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 1: was tragically killed. So his lawyers arguing, wait a minute, 85 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: this isn't your typical flee the scene kind of crime. 86 00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: I mean, he really was on the phone, he was 87 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:43,640 Speaker 1: administering help. He was there trying to help, and that's 88 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: not a typical person who commits the crime and then 89 00:05:47,000 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: runs off into the darkness. Let's follow up on what 90 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,280 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool is saying and listen to this nine one 91 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: one call us a very brief and he does turned 92 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,479 Speaker 1: around and go, hey, does anybody here know CPR? And 93 00:05:59,760 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 1: I he did reach over and determine the guy still 94 00:06:03,480 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 1: had a pulse. Bran Flaypool, I promise if I find 95 00:06:07,680 --> 00:06:11,360 Speaker 1: you dying in a ditch, God for good, I will 96 00:06:11,400 --> 00:06:14,159 Speaker 1: do more than take your pulse. Okay, I promise you 97 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:17,159 Speaker 1: that we don't know what all he here. Are you 98 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,520 Speaker 1: sure you would do that if you threw me in 99 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 1: the ditch? Are you positive if you toss me into 100 00:06:22,520 --> 00:06:25,960 Speaker 1: the ditch, would you help me? Let me rethink my 101 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:29,080 Speaker 1: more than generous offer. Hold on listen to this, Kenny 102 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:32,280 Speaker 1: conyn one one one is from the merchant thinking just 103 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:46,640 Speaker 1: porsable we talk? Okay, what's the address? There's no address? 104 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:57,440 Speaker 1: Um address? Alight? Okay, okay, I got it? What is 105 00:06:57,440 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: anybody injured? Yes? Whoa there? A tractor? Okay, so it's 106 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 1: a truck car versus tractor okay, and who's injured? So 107 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:15,200 Speaker 1: the man on the tractor is a tractor in the 108 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 1: ditch okay, and that guy was thrown into the ditch. Okay, 109 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:31,080 Speaker 1: just one moment. Are there coming coming? Are you talking 110 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:35,440 Speaker 1: to amazing? Conscious? He's not conscious? He's not conscious? Can 111 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: you can you check me? Where is the exact location 112 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: of Mechanic County? Any mercy? One abulance spent one mile 113 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: worth of Aurora on Slater Avenue for a vehicle versus 114 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,040 Speaker 1: tractor accident. A tractor has trown into the ditch and 115 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: the writer if the tractor is injured. Police stay on 116 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: the phone with me. Okay, can you hear me? You 117 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:58,160 Speaker 1: hear me a minute, but don't hang up, Donna, I 118 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,720 Speaker 1: got this, okay, Okay, you got it? Yep, thank you? 119 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: What's your name? Christ sold? Okay? Any breathing, sir? I 120 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: can't tell it doesn't apear to be. It doesn't look 121 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: like he's breathing for us. No, get on him. No, 122 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 1: christ are we start CPR? Christy, you know how to 123 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: do CPR? No? I know? Are you near him at all? 124 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:53,280 Speaker 1: We don't have this CPR's somebody with you? So there 125 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,679 Speaker 1: you Okay? Does anyone there know how to do CPR? 126 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: Everybody know how you? Super are? I can talk to 127 00:09:05,480 --> 00:09:14,520 Speaker 1: you through it if you're near the patient. This blood 128 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:24,000 Speaker 1: that's coming out of his mouth? Yeah, okay, so it's 129 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: a few pulls. Yeah, it's gonna pull. He does have 130 00:09:26,520 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: a poll check the CPS threading. Yeahs on your way, 131 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,200 Speaker 1: say Chris, yeah there, I'm gonna stand the line with you. 132 00:09:40,280 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: We have law enforcement medical in route two. I want 133 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:45,800 Speaker 1: to know if those vehicles that are up on the 134 00:09:45,880 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: road patch the slashers up. Thank you. I'm gonna go. 135 00:09:51,280 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah okay, okay, sure, can I tell you boy? 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Go ahead, Well it's not just TMZ, 162 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 1: it's also the Des Moines Register is reporting that documents 163 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:14,119 Speaker 1: filed by the Buchanan County Attorney's Office today in response 164 00:12:14,200 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 1: to the motion to have it dismissed, said that the 165 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:23,000 Speaker 1: empty and partially consumed open alcoholic beverages found in and 166 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: around Chris Soul's vehicle after the fatal crash where purchase 167 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:31,080 Speaker 1: quote shortly before the accident. Okay, lay Pool, I've got 168 00:12:31,160 --> 00:12:34,079 Speaker 1: an answer for that. But you go first, well, I mean, 169 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:36,440 Speaker 1: how much alcohol are we talking about? Alan do you know? 170 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: I mean are we talking to did he consume an 171 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 1: entire six pack and a half hour? Brian? You really 172 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: do beat all because first you're saying there's no evidence 173 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:48,600 Speaker 1: that he was drinking or that he had alcohol, and 174 00:12:48,640 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: then we find out last night that there was what 175 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: looked like you have no evidence that he consumed alcohol. 176 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 1: There's no witness thing. I saw Chris downing four beers 177 00:12:59,280 --> 00:13:03,679 Speaker 1: at the at the local grocery store out on a patio. 178 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:07,320 Speaker 1: There's no there's no eyewitnesses and prinking any alcohol. Explawyer 179 00:13:07,360 --> 00:13:09,520 Speaker 1: is gonna argue that all that does is show proof 180 00:13:09,600 --> 00:13:12,320 Speaker 1: that he purchased alcohol. We don't know whether he had 181 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 1: a passenger with him, where he went after he bought 182 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:18,800 Speaker 1: the alcohol. Was he patronizing with somebody. That's not direct 183 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:22,440 Speaker 1: evidence that he was under the influence and impaired when 184 00:13:22,440 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: he was driving. Okay, I was just waiting hoping you 185 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: would say exactly what you said. Okay, So where I 186 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: was before I was so rudely interrupted by defense tone. 187 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:35,600 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool was that first year, like, there's no evidence 188 00:13:35,640 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 1: who's drinking. So last night I was discussing this very 189 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,960 Speaker 1: thing on Nightline and I said, look, he hasn't been 190 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 1: charged with d u I he hasn't been charged with 191 00:13:44,840 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: even drinking at all to any limit, to any extent. 192 00:13:49,920 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: But we know that there was alcohol spotted in his car. 193 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,240 Speaker 1: But here's the problem with that. For all I know, 194 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: it was a twelve pack unopened in a bag from 195 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 1: Walmart or in the trunk I don't know, Or was 196 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 1: it a giant tumbler with ice still in it of 197 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 1: genitoic or coke and jack right there in the beverage holder. 198 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 1: I mean spilled all over the front seat. I don't 199 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 1: know what the booze was, so without knowing that, I 200 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:28,960 Speaker 1: can't say what it contributes, if anything, to a charge. 201 00:14:29,360 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: But now we are hearing that he just bought the 202 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:38,600 Speaker 1: booze just before the crash. According to TMZ, what else 203 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: did the des Moines registers, say Alan Duke. The filing 204 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: from the prosecutor also says that along with identifying himself, 205 00:14:46,400 --> 00:14:50,760 Speaker 1: Souls was required to quote immediately returned to the scene 206 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:53,840 Speaker 1: of the accident or inform law enforcement authorities where he 207 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:57,240 Speaker 1: could be located, but he didn't do that, and it 208 00:14:57,280 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 1: says the only permissible reasons Souls could have left the 209 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: scene of the accident in the first place was to 210 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 1: seek necessary aid or to report the accident to law 211 00:15:07,200 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: enforcement authorities. And that's not what happened. Okay, wait a minute, 212 00:15:12,280 --> 00:15:14,760 Speaker 1: I got something for you, Claypool. Now listen to this. 213 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:21,360 Speaker 1: Prosecutors say Souls attempted to dodge several facts around the accident, 214 00:15:21,760 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: including an explanation of the empty and partially consumed open 215 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:36,680 Speaker 1: alcoholic beverage located in and around his vehicle that he 216 00:15:36,800 --> 00:15:42,440 Speaker 1: was seen purchasing at a convenience store shortly before the accident. 217 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,480 Speaker 1: I was just about to say, Brian, if there is 218 00:15:46,520 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: a witness or surveillance video or credit card receipt showing 219 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 1: that he let's just go with m Core's light, Okay, 220 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 1: that he bought a six pack and then in the 221 00:15:59,280 --> 00:16:03,640 Speaker 1: car in the truck police find the six pack with 222 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: one empty beer can in the floor and one have 223 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 1: consumed beer can in the beverage container. That's pretty strong 224 00:16:13,520 --> 00:16:15,680 Speaker 1: evidence that he was drinking and driving if the crash 225 00:16:15,680 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 1: happened right after the purchase. Would you at least agree 226 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:21,720 Speaker 1: with that, Brian, I would agree with your comment that 227 00:16:21,920 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: it could prove that he was drinking and driving, but 228 00:16:25,800 --> 00:16:30,000 Speaker 1: it doesn't prove that he was driving under the influence 229 00:16:30,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Speaker 1: of alcohol and that that alcohol he consumed impaired his 230 00:16:34,080 --> 00:16:38,960 Speaker 1: ability uh to pay attention to avert the accident. That 231 00:16:38,960 --> 00:16:43,880 Speaker 1: that's just not enough evidence to prove that. Okay, dummy 232 00:16:43,920 --> 00:16:47,800 Speaker 1: down for me, because what you're saying in regular people 233 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: talk is you and I don't want to encourage this, 234 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 1: especially to Alan Duke, who is not afraid of a cocktail. Okay, 235 00:16:56,800 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 1: let me just put that out there. You do not 236 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:06,560 Speaker 1: you can have a drink and drive, and that alcohol 237 00:17:07,000 --> 00:17:10,399 Speaker 1: not be enough to get you to the legal limit 238 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: point zero eight of d U. I. However, you still 239 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: can be charged with driving while impaired. What about that 240 00:17:19,960 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 1: girl's back up? First one, there's no law against drinking 241 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: a beer. You're if you're having a sip of a 242 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:28,520 Speaker 1: beer while you're driving. I don't believe that violates the law. 243 00:17:29,000 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: I could be wrong. I don't think it does. But 244 00:17:32,000 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: what we're looking at here is you need to prove 245 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:38,160 Speaker 1: that if Crystals in fact drank a beer two from 246 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:42,800 Speaker 1: the time he purchased the six pack, that that actually 247 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: played an integral role in his ability to pay attention 248 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 1: when he was driving. There's still no nexus or connection 249 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: between he consumed a little bit of alcohol and that 250 00:17:56,720 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: actually and that actually, beyond a reason, mold doubt impaired 251 00:18:01,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: his ability to pay attention. Now, I saw on a 252 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:09,240 Speaker 1: recent report, Nancy, that this accident occurred at the time 253 00:18:09,280 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: of day when the sun was going down, and there's 254 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: now an issue as to whether there were any whether 255 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: there he could have seen attract or in other words, 256 00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: with with absent any lights on, so so lighting lighting 257 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:26,520 Speaker 1: could have been an issue. Here's your here's your problem, 258 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:30,920 Speaker 1: miss prosecutor. You don't you don't have any empirical scientific 259 00:18:31,440 --> 00:18:36,520 Speaker 1: evidence of Chris Soul's being under the influence of alcohol 260 00:18:36,560 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 1: when he's driving number one. There's no reliable evidence that 261 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,440 Speaker 1: alcohol played any part in him being able to pay 262 00:18:43,480 --> 00:18:47,399 Speaker 1: attention when he's driving number two and number three. Like 263 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:49,919 Speaker 1: you said, there's no breath lizer done, there's no blood 264 00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 1: tests done. Yeah, because he fled the scene. That's why. 265 00:18:53,240 --> 00:18:55,720 Speaker 1: First of all, not condoning what he did as far 266 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,159 Speaker 1: as playing the scene, but when you meshed him not 267 00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: having been objected to any type of testing, whether it 268 00:19:03,080 --> 00:19:08,480 Speaker 1: be bloodcast, breathalizer or sobriety test, you don't As a prosecutor, 269 00:19:08,840 --> 00:19:12,840 Speaker 1: you don't now have that crucial information. It makes it 270 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,960 Speaker 1: harder now for the prosecutor to get a conviction on 271 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:21,400 Speaker 1: negligent vehicular homicide negligent homicide. So that's all I'm saying. 272 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: It's going to be a harder haul. Hold on, hold on, 273 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:28,520 Speaker 1: Hold on. The bachelor. Chris Souls walks away from the 274 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,440 Speaker 1: scene of the deadly crash, apparently calls somebody to pick 275 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,760 Speaker 1: him up to take him home, and when the Sheriff's 276 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,800 Speaker 1: get to his home and bam on the door, he 277 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,960 Speaker 1: refuses to come out, he stays, holds up in there, 278 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 1: hold up in there for hours. Um. Finally the two 279 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,080 Speaker 1: deputies who were at his home and asked him to 280 00:19:49,119 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 1: come out, and he refuses several hours for them to 281 00:19:52,400 --> 00:19:56,200 Speaker 1: go get a search warrant. So he stayed in there 282 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 1: long enough to teach some of the booze out. That's 283 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: what the argument's going to be. And also when they 284 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: search to pick up they find beer cans inside. Don't 285 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: know if they were full or empty. Okay, But but 286 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,520 Speaker 1: here my counter to that is this, did he did 287 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: crystals handle this in a dignified, proper way. No? Did 288 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: he handle it in an illegal way by going home 289 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 1: and not answering the door and not speaking to the 290 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:30,160 Speaker 1: officers when the cannons off. No, he's not legally obligated 291 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:35,320 Speaker 1: to go out and say, hey, Mr or Mrs officer, sure, uh, 292 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,359 Speaker 1: put a veel in my arm and take my blood 293 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 1: sample or take a blood dust. He's not he's not 294 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,440 Speaker 1: legally obligated to do that. They didn't have a search 295 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:45,800 Speaker 1: warrant or anything warrant at the time they went to 296 00:20:45,880 --> 00:20:48,560 Speaker 1: his house. I mean, from a perceptive standpoint, it doesn't 297 00:20:48,560 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 1: look good. You are legally obligated if you were driving 298 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 1: on a public road, you agree to take a breath, 299 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: a linzer or a blood alcohol. You can refuse, that's 300 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,040 Speaker 1: just part of the deal. No, but you can refuse 301 00:21:02,080 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 1: that and be charged with I guess you can. Then 302 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:05,879 Speaker 1: you lose your life, you're charged with it, and then 303 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: you're charged with Right, Brian, where where did you grow up? 304 00:21:09,600 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 1: Where did I grow up? Speaking of alcohol? And I 305 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:16,080 Speaker 1: grew up in a town where rolling rock beer is brewed, 306 00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:20,240 Speaker 1: believe it or not, Latrobe, Pennsylvania, thirty five miles outside 307 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,320 Speaker 1: of Pittsburgh, rolling rock beers. I know all about your 308 00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: people drinking. Do you know anything about tractors? Did you 309 00:21:27,680 --> 00:21:30,720 Speaker 1: know anything about tractors? Yeah, we grew up in a small, 310 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: little little Do you know how fast a tractor can go? Yeah? 311 00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: So how can you miss a tractor going fifteen miles 312 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:45,640 Speaker 1: an hour in front of you? Nancy? Let me share 313 00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:49,280 Speaker 1: a story with you. Okay. I also want to undergraduate 314 00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: at penn State University. One person, I'm telling you that 315 00:21:51,680 --> 00:21:53,880 Speaker 1: is because I used to do a drive from Latrobe, 316 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania up into what they called Happy Valley, Okay, in 317 00:21:57,400 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 1: central Pennsylvania. And I'm sure you're familiar with the Amish folks, right, 318 00:22:01,080 --> 00:22:04,119 Speaker 1: and they drive in those bugs the buggies right there 319 00:22:04,119 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: are prevalence in central Pennsylvania. The owners I'm sharing the 320 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:09,639 Speaker 1: story with you. There have been times when I've been 321 00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:12,879 Speaker 1: driving on the on those country roads and all of 322 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,480 Speaker 1: a sudden, it's kind of like you're looking forward right, 323 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 1: and you're not really realizing that the distance is closing 324 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 1: in so quickly because the horse and buggies are going 325 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,960 Speaker 1: what maybe ten miles an hour, and some of those 326 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,720 Speaker 1: were on the road, and they can can create a 327 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: hazard at times, just like a tractor. I've been driving 328 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: out of here even recently, where you see like a 329 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:39,320 Speaker 1: city truck that's going to fifty miles on a on 330 00:22:39,320 --> 00:22:42,439 Speaker 1: a road that's five an hour. That's a hazard in 331 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: and of itself. Right, the Amish person and their buggy 332 00:22:47,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 1: and horses, they're not the hazard. It's the speed demon 333 00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:57,919 Speaker 1: Brian Claypool driving a d m p h. Pulling up. 334 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,880 Speaker 1: I mean, how can somebody barely move be a hazard 335 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:04,560 Speaker 1: on a back road. You're the problem. You and Chris Souls. 336 00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,760 Speaker 1: You and Chris Souls are the problem. Now if you're 337 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 1: driving sixty five miles an hour and you're coming up 338 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,840 Speaker 1: on a buggy horse and buggy going ten miles an hour, 339 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: or tracker going fifteen miles an hour. It can be 340 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 1: deceiving to you at the distance how quickly you're you're 341 00:23:18,440 --> 00:23:21,880 Speaker 1: closing on on that person, and that could create I've 342 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: never had a problem with maybe not to you, but 343 00:23:24,600 --> 00:23:26,560 Speaker 1: to the average fault. I mean, it's happened to me. 344 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:29,920 Speaker 1: It can be dangerous. I'm not making a complete excuse 345 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,800 Speaker 1: for crystals when I'm trying to to glean a reasonable 346 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 1: explanation as to why he he misfired on the distance 347 00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:38,639 Speaker 1: between his vehicle and then and the tractor, and I 348 00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,640 Speaker 1: think that is a reasonable You don't think that's a reasonable, 349 00:23:41,680 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 1: plausible explanation, Nancy. A tractor on a major road going 350 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 1: fifteen min it's not a major road, it's not it's 351 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 1: not a major road, but it's a road. I don't know, No, 352 00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 1: I don't And the tractor is going twenty five miles 353 00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,520 Speaker 1: an hour, which should be a apropriate for a back road. 354 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:04,680 Speaker 1: Would intriguing. What interests me is the totality of the 355 00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: circumstances where he rear in somebody, which essentially is per 356 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:14,120 Speaker 1: se negligence when you rear in somebody. Not only that 357 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:18,879 Speaker 1: he leaves the scene and stays gone long enough for 358 00:24:18,960 --> 00:24:21,960 Speaker 1: the alcohol in his system to dissipate. Nancy, you're one 359 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:25,440 Speaker 1: of the most intelligent, intelligent people I've ever met. You 360 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 1: know that in this kind of case, there's more diff 361 00:24:28,160 --> 00:24:35,120 Speaker 1: Did you just say intelligent mint? Did you say intelligent mint? Yeah? 362 00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: I think I think that it's the stick suffering from 363 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: the gold Brian Claypool just left the seven and eleven 364 00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 1: where he bought a six pack. Okay, go ahead, Nancy. 365 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: Two important facts that we don't have pieces of evidence 366 00:24:51,160 --> 00:24:53,280 Speaker 1: that have to be developed before we call out the 367 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,520 Speaker 1: firing squad and queer Soul. Number one, what was the 368 00:24:56,600 --> 00:24:59,760 Speaker 1: speed of the tractor at the time of the accident. 369 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:04,080 Speaker 1: The gentleman was all right, blame the viction, go ahead him. 370 00:25:04,280 --> 00:25:06,679 Speaker 1: You have to do what's called an accident reconstruction. You 371 00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: have to have scientists come in and study, uh, the 372 00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: speed of you've got you got determined. How fast was 373 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,000 Speaker 1: Chris Souls traveling at the time of impact? A B 374 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:23,800 Speaker 1: how fast it's at all? Was the tractor traveling at 375 00:25:23,840 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 1: the time of impact? For example, if the tractor was 376 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: was stationary, that arguably, Chris sol could argue. His lawyer 377 00:25:30,880 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: could say, well, that created a hazard. The tractor just 378 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,160 Speaker 1: went out on the road going a few miles an hour, 379 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:40,600 Speaker 1: So you're telling me it could be the tractor Kenneth 380 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,360 Speaker 1: Moser's fault. And for some reason, Chris Souls the reality 381 00:25:44,400 --> 00:25:46,960 Speaker 1: star had to go home and hide behind the closed 382 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:50,280 Speaker 1: door from two sheriff's uh and think about it. Okay, 383 00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:54,119 Speaker 1: well the other thing, All of that might work for 384 00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:57,800 Speaker 1: you out in l A. That might work for you 385 00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,480 Speaker 1: in l A. But that ain't gonna fly in Iowa. 386 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,080 Speaker 1: It's not gonna happen. And you haven't even touched on 387 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:07,800 Speaker 1: what I think is very important. This guy has a 388 00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:13,520 Speaker 1: drinking and a driving history that goes back to nineteen 389 00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:20,480 Speaker 1: under age to drinking, speeding, a multitude of infractions. He 390 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: has a previous out of cedar falls, hit and run, 391 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 1: and he has a two thousand and six d UY. 392 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 1: So he knew the drill. He knew that if he 393 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: was drinking and had a crash and he was d 394 00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 1: u I, he was up the crest, up the creek 395 00:26:37,080 --> 00:26:40,199 Speaker 1: without a paddle. Okay, well there you go, all right, 396 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 1: let me clarify what I said I'm not saying that 397 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,960 Speaker 1: the man who was killed was at fault. What I 398 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:51,600 Speaker 1: said was him pulling the tractor, maybe at a slow 399 00:26:51,720 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: rate of speed on that road, may have been a 400 00:26:54,840 --> 00:27:00,160 Speaker 1: contributing factor to this tragedy. And it sometimes when these 401 00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 1: things happened, it's not a murder or a homicide. Rather 402 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:09,920 Speaker 1: it is simply a tragic accident. And that's the point 403 00:27:09,960 --> 00:27:12,200 Speaker 1: I was trying to make. Is that what you're going 404 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:19,520 Speaker 1: to argue in Dahlia di Polito, The Almost Black Widow. Hey, guys, 405 00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:21,720 Speaker 1: I just saw one more thing I want to tell you. 406 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:27,560 Speaker 1: I was rereading a quote from the prosecutor's filings. It 407 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: says by leaving the scene, he attempted to dodge facts 408 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: around the accident, an explanation, including an explanation of the 409 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:45,800 Speaker 1: empty and partially consumed open alcoholic beverages in and around 410 00:27:45,920 --> 00:27:50,199 Speaker 1: his vehicle. I know, I think I read that earlier, 411 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,679 Speaker 1: but I'm rereading it. So some at least one of 412 00:27:53,680 --> 00:27:58,440 Speaker 1: the beer cans was empty, and that means there's another 413 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: one that's partially consumed. That's a beer and a half 414 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: if I'm reading that correctly. Whoopsie Nancy. His behavior is 415 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:15,200 Speaker 1: consistent with somebody who's afraid. He's afraid of the perception 416 00:28:15,560 --> 00:28:17,600 Speaker 1: that if you've got an empty beer can and maybe 417 00:28:17,600 --> 00:28:20,119 Speaker 1: a half empty beer can, that the whole world is 418 00:28:20,119 --> 00:28:22,960 Speaker 1: going to do what they're doing now, which is conclude 419 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: that he's a raving alcoholic, he's got a prior du i, 420 00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 1: and that all of that coalesced caused this accident, caused 421 00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 1: this death. Yeah, because it's common sense. Let me actually 422 00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: come on, if you ever, let's let's let's let's let's 423 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: let's be real. Okay, let's be real. You and I 424 00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:46,400 Speaker 1: would let's pretend that we just met a that we 425 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,680 Speaker 1: just met it a lounge. Okay, I've always been dying 426 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: to meet you. Okay, first of all, I don't meet 427 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: manute lounges. Let's let's live out my fantasy for a 428 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: couple of minutes. We meet it a lounge, I'll try 429 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,240 Speaker 1: and I worre you a beer. We have a beer, 430 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,120 Speaker 1: We chit chat, you tell me about your experience and 431 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: dancing with the stars, and then you have another half beer. 432 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,719 Speaker 1: I get you another half beer. I buy it for you. 433 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 1: By the way, even after you talk in the dif 434 00:29:10,080 --> 00:29:12,560 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes ago. So I get you a couple of beers. 435 00:29:12,560 --> 00:29:14,920 Speaker 1: You've had one and a half beer, all right, now 436 00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:16,720 Speaker 1: after one and a half beers, I don't want you 437 00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,560 Speaker 1: to tell me honestly, all right, how do you think 438 00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240 Speaker 1: you would you would feel after a beer and a 439 00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,000 Speaker 1: half and you weigh less than a lot less than 440 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:29,320 Speaker 1: Chris souls? Do you really believe that's gonna dramatically impair 441 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:31,760 Speaker 1: Be honest with me, Okay, I'll be honest with you. 442 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:36,520 Speaker 1: Number one, I do not meet men in lounges. Okay. 443 00:29:36,760 --> 00:29:41,240 Speaker 1: Number two, If I did. If I did, you're killing 444 00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:43,000 Speaker 1: my fan of you. But go ahead if I did. 445 00:29:43,280 --> 00:29:45,960 Speaker 1: If I did, it would definitely be you. But if 446 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,960 Speaker 1: I did, I had. If I Number two, I don't drink. 447 00:29:50,400 --> 00:29:53,200 Speaker 1: Number three when I have had to drink. If I 448 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 1: have one drink, I go straight to sleep. It's just 449 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: not fun for me. I'm just one of those people. 450 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,160 Speaker 1: I go, oh, dear Lord, haven't I'm tired? I they 451 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,760 Speaker 1: can go to sleep, and so it's no fun. So 452 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:04,720 Speaker 1: if I had a beer and a half, I would 453 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: be asleep at the wheel. That was a bad fantasy analogy. 454 00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,960 Speaker 1: So I know that's not the answer you're hoping for. 455 00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,600 Speaker 1: So now you want to make up. Okay, I love this. Okay, 456 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 1: you know what I think that you have said enough 457 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: about Mr Cristoles with me is superstar Brian Claypool, out 458 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: of the l A jurisdiction, telling me all about his 459 00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:33,080 Speaker 1: home spun childhood, growing up in the hard scrabble suburbs 460 00:30:33,120 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 1: in Pennsylvania. The main streets of where was it, Nancy, 461 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: three things, Rolling rodber Arnold Palmer hometown for any golfing 462 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 1: fans out there of yours. And the Pittsburgh Steelers trained 463 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:49,640 Speaker 1: every summer in Latrolle, Pennsylvania. As a kid growing up 464 00:30:49,680 --> 00:30:51,560 Speaker 1: in the backyard, I could see them. I looked him 465 00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 1: up on Google and all I could pull up pictures 466 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:59,640 Speaker 1: of mansions in Okay, well, whatever, I guess that, Mr 467 00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:05,280 Speaker 1: Blue Caller, Brian Claypool, Alan du Brian Claypool. We expect 468 00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:09,640 Speaker 1: another development in the Crystals, the Bachelor slash the Bachelorette 469 00:31:09,680 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 1: slash Dancing with the Stars alum in the next few hours, 470 00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,280 Speaker 1: and we will be back on crime stories. Claypool. I'll 471 00:31:18,320 --> 00:31:21,160 Speaker 1: see you in courtman, Allen Duke. I'll let you go 472 00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: back to your sea, your your cement pond, your fancy 473 00:31:25,400 --> 00:31:28,600 Speaker 1: swimming pool there in your high Rise and um, I'm 474 00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,560 Speaker 1: gonna sign off, guys. Thank you for being with me, 475 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,320 Speaker 1: Nancy Grace, goodbye friend.