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Speaker 2: Oh hi God, you're your hosts.

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Speaker 7: John Annick and Kenny Florian.

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Speaker 9: Well you talk about a downgrade flow. We do our

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Speaker 9: going skype in Boker Tone, Florida and somewhere near Pauley's Island,

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Speaker 9: South Carolina. I'm not going to give your exact location away.

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Speaker 11: But I know, dude, see what happens.

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Speaker 6: We got together, we were too close and now we

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Speaker 6: want our we want our space a little bit.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, yeah, we we got our space back. That was

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Speaker 10: fun though. I got to tell you, and I was

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Speaker 10: some of our listeners that I know. I know.

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Speaker 10: But we we got to figure out a way to.

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Speaker 9: Get in the same state at some point in time,

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Speaker 10: I guess we do.

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Speaker 6: We have enough money in the Antik and Florian podcast

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Speaker 9: Also, we certainly don't have enough money to live in

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Speaker 9: so we appreciate that. It is Monday, August sixth, twenty eighteen,

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Speaker 9: Episode one sixty six anikin Florian Podcasts East Coast vacation

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Speaker 9: for the Flow, but you can be sure he's working

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Speaker 9: doing a podcast here on a Monday. So last week

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Speaker 9: I got that vege of my bet out of the way.

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Speaker 9: And you know, the ausies, God love him, but some

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Speaker 9: of them still think we're missing the point, like that

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Speaker 9: we still don't understand how this stuff can be ingested

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Speaker 6: Right, No, guys, listen, it was it was a punishment

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Speaker 6: This was a punishment Annik had to pay for losing

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Speaker 6: to the Flow.

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Speaker 11: This is what happens.

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Speaker 9: And I know Kyle Nok and the rest of them,

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Speaker 9: Anton Zaffer, former UFC fighter as well. I think they

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Speaker 9: We will move on from that. But it was fun

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Speaker 9: so much to get to today. But the Boston Red

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Speaker 9: and just swept the Yankees four straight. You see Matt

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Speaker 11: By the way, I did see that. I was like,

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Speaker 11: who is that guy with the Red Sox hat on?

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Speaker 6: And then they did the close up and it was

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Speaker 10: He was on the Cans all night.

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Speaker 9: He was sitting at the at the Dana White table

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Speaker 9: repping the local NNE wearing the Red Sox hat. Did

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Speaker 10: Or did you miss up?

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Speaker 6: Of course I did?

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Speaker 10: Of course, all right, text me that kid, text me.

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Speaker 10: Actually you know what I was thinking.

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Speaker 9: I was thinking I would pay you per text message

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Speaker 10: If I use it on the air, I'll do that.

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Speaker 9: And just you know, when you're not working the desk,

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Speaker 6: I gotta I gotta give you some nuggets.

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Speaker 10: Well, you'll be back. You'll be back in a big way.

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Speaker 9: Great atmosphere though, Staple Center big Now UFC two twenty seven,

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Speaker 9: Alex Perez. You might have missed his fight on UFC

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Speaker 9: Fight Pass, but big win for him over the previously

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Speaker 9: fighting Justin Gaetgee in the main event later this month Lincoln, Nebraska.

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Speaker 9: Both those guys pretty fired up at the press conference.

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Speaker 9: So we'll grab a few minutes with James Vick as well.

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Speaker 9: I might even talk to Eric Albout. I've seen in

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Speaker 9: Henry Sahudo later. A lot of things uh in the

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Speaker 10: Ray Longo coming up as well. Let's get to headlines.

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Speaker 5: I have some very urgent and important breaking new.

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Speaker 12: Headlines and Kenny Sans podcast with the headline of all

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Speaker 12: headlines was Friday UFC two twenty nine Kabi versus Connor.

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Speaker 9: But I'm going to bury the lead today because TJ.

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Speaker 9: Dillashaw deserves to lead this fine program. Rematch with Cody

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Speaker 10: Now in the series. Both of the wins by knockout.

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Speaker 9: I would think this one was particularly sweet because it

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Speaker 10: So nicely done by TJ.

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Speaker 9: Dillashan for me, at least, sitting there live, man, this

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Speaker 6: Yeah, nicely done indeed, And TJ Delashaw a guy who

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Speaker 6: Cody Garbrandt I thought was just an amazing finish. He

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Speaker 11: And when you get this tremendous.

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Speaker 5: And TJ.

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Speaker 6: Delshaw went on to confirm himself as one of the

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Speaker 6: So a very interesting story, certainly, certainly at closing to

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Speaker 6: the story between these two and TJ. Delshaw Man, I

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Speaker 9: And I know you have a huge appreciation for how

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Speaker 9: that's more intangible, I guess, is the happiness and the

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Speaker 9: calmness and the comf the comfort in combat. I mean,

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Speaker 9: later today, he's another guy. They're just so happy to

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Speaker 9: know you and George Saint Pierre didn't necessarily have that emotion, right,

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Speaker 9: that's not fair, Kenny, And I know you know obviously

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Speaker 9: but I think for TJ, he every time, you know,

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Speaker 9: it's like, how's fight week? Honestly, I love this shit, man,

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Speaker 9: Oh how'd you feel in there? Honestly?

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Speaker 10: I love it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and again for the UFC, you want to put

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Speaker 9: As far as Cody Garbrand is concerned, I know he

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Speaker 9: I would think, Ken and I think you have to

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Speaker 6: Think more than anything else, Listen, anyone's chin could be

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Speaker 11: But yeah, you do have to.

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Speaker 6: Consider all that other previous experience, the football experience, the

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Speaker 6: Those will certainly take its toll, right, So I think

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Speaker 6: He started out doing that he was finding success and

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Speaker 6: You don't want to trade when you're in the pocket

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Speaker 11: The dice and that's not a good thing to do. TJ.

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Speaker 6: Dilshaw hits very hard himself, but I think Cody got

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Speaker 6: I don't know if if Cody Garbrant was out there

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Speaker 9: Cody Garbrand fight. Just in terms of not trying to

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Speaker 9: take any shine away from TJ, but highlighting some of

439
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Speaker 9: the things Garbrand maybe could have done better. What do

440
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Speaker 9: you think about Low's assessment of what we saw in

441
00:20:01,280 --> 00:20:02,320
Speaker 9: the main event Saturday night.

442
00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,800
Speaker 5: No, I think Ken flows right on the money.

443
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:09,879
Speaker 13: I think what bothers me about this is that And again,

444
00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 13: the TJ's a great fight, There's absolutely no question about that.

445
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:16,560
Speaker 13: But this to me was a very winnable fight for

446
00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:19,679
Speaker 13: god Brand. He brings too much baggage into the.

447
00:20:19,720 --> 00:20:23,480
Speaker 5: Ring with him. His emotion for this was not good.

448
00:20:24,000 --> 00:20:26,560
Speaker 13: But even with that being said, like what Kenny was saying,

449
00:20:26,680 --> 00:20:29,280
Speaker 13: just but definitely for too emotional and that that leads

450
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:30,200
Speaker 13: to recklessness.

451
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:35,000
Speaker 5: Everything you could do to throw a right hand wrong

452
00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 5: he did.

453
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Speaker 13: I mean, if you look at the tape, he throws

454
00:20:38,080 --> 00:20:40,560
Speaker 13: the right hand, he brings his right foot up with it.

455
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,879
Speaker 13: He's parallel, he's squared up, he doesn't move his head,

456
00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 13: he kept his head on the left side. He took

457
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Speaker 13: that shot while his feet were parallel. I mean, like

458
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:52,520
Speaker 13: unacceptable at that level, and I think he could have

459
00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:55,960
Speaker 13: he had the power. You could see even Fillishaw's face

460
00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:58,800
Speaker 13: after the fight. I mean he was busted up. If

461
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:01,199
Speaker 13: this guy would have fought with a little more calmness

462
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:03,120
Speaker 13: and controlled his emotions.

463
00:21:03,520 --> 00:21:05,800
Speaker 5: I'm saying, he wins that fight, right.

464
00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:06,480
Speaker 6: And that's the thing.

465
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,359
Speaker 11: It's not like Cody isn't capable. Cody knows better than that.

466
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Speaker 5: That is exact and.

467
00:21:11,600 --> 00:21:14,000
Speaker 6: Poor is that is poor decision making on his part,

468
00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,200
Speaker 6: and that is his emotions getting the better of him.

469
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Speaker 6: Because this is such a capable fighter, a guy who

470
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Speaker 6: has tremendous vision in there, He's a tremendous counterpuncher.

471
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Speaker 11: He could move his head.

472
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Speaker 6: We saw that against Dominic Cruz, we saw flashes of

473
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Speaker 6: brilliance in that or even in this last fight and

474
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Speaker 6: early on against TJ. Delshaw, and he just planted his

475
00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,120
Speaker 6: feet in the canvas and said, come on, let's see

476
00:21:34,119 --> 00:21:36,560
Speaker 6: who's tougher. And that's not the way to go against

477
00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:38,359
Speaker 6: another dangerous fighter like TJ.

478
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:39,640
Speaker 5: Delshaw exactly.

479
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Speaker 13: And I definitely don't want this even taken the way

480
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Speaker 13: that with taking anything away from Dilla Shaw and the

481
00:21:45,119 --> 00:21:48,600
Speaker 13: guy's phenomenal he and I think they knew that that

482
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,360
Speaker 13: this guy was going to be emotional, and he just

483
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,800
Speaker 13: sat in that pocket and he looked at a wide

484
00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:57,199
Speaker 13: open target because the other guy was just he was

485
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Speaker 13: out of control, and you can see hurt Dilla show

486
00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:04,000
Speaker 13: again if he would have just relaxed and regrouped and

487
00:22:04,160 --> 00:22:07,960
Speaker 13: stayed emotionally balanced. I really believe he's winning the fight,

488
00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:10,760
Speaker 13: and I could be one hundred percent wrong, But you

489
00:22:10,800 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 13: know again, I think even looking at the damage to

490
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 13: to Dili Shua's face, I mean in a short period

491
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 13: of time, imagine another fifteen minutes of that.

492
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Speaker 9: Yeah, right, you know, you know you lost fifty dollars

493
00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 9: Ray instead of winning one hundred, you lost fifty of

494
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 9: your two hundred dollars.

495
00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:31,240
Speaker 13: Maybe that's why I'm doing this. I'm a loser. You

496
00:22:31,240 --> 00:22:34,200
Speaker 13: know what you're taking. I know what's going on here.

497
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:38,320
Speaker 13: You're taking advantage. You have a gambling mentality. I'm gonna

498
00:22:38,359 --> 00:22:41,199
Speaker 13: end up bowing you money. I know where It's like.

499
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 13: I'm up at the tables two thousand dollars. I'm gonna

500
00:22:44,320 --> 00:22:46,879
Speaker 13: go home broke. I know where this is going.

501
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Speaker 6: He knows what he's doing, right, he knows what He's

502
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,119
Speaker 6: a very calculated ten.

503
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:55,119
Speaker 5: It's a very calculated thing he is. Let me say something.

504
00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:58,600
Speaker 13: About the the other fight too, Mighty Mouse.

505
00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 5: I really thought Mighty Mouse won that fight. I really did.

506
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,240
Speaker 13: I thought he wanted three to two, and I think

507
00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 13: this is what happened because I had a discussion with

508
00:23:05,080 --> 00:23:07,919
Speaker 13: somebody the other day. I think this guy's been so

509
00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:12,600
Speaker 13: fucking good that anytime anything negative happened to him, they

510
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,840
Speaker 13: took that as like a big deal, like the guy

511
00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,720
Speaker 13: no damage on the floor, but he's never really been

512
00:23:17,760 --> 00:23:19,399
Speaker 13: on his back for that length of time, and I

513
00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,800
Speaker 13: really think that kind of hurt him with the judges

514
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 13: because I think if you look at the fight, and again,

515
00:23:24,280 --> 00:23:27,840
Speaker 13: so hudo great fight for the great fight, I just

516
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:31,560
Speaker 13: think three to two TJ would have been a really

517
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 13: fair decision, but it wasn't the type of thing where

518
00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:36,840
Speaker 13: you know the other guy won and you were totally

519
00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 13: surprised because like going into the fifth, I'm like, wow,

520
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 13: this guy he's in the fight.

521
00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,119
Speaker 5: You know, he's definitely right where he wants to be.

522
00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,600
Speaker 13: But I really believe that's what happened with the judges,

523
00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,400
Speaker 13: is that this guy's been so perfect that any negativity

524
00:23:49,520 --> 00:23:51,760
Speaker 13: during those rounds they just gave it to the other guy.

525
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Speaker 6: Ray, I agree with you there. I also think not

526
00:23:55,320 --> 00:23:58,159
Speaker 6: only was it that, I also think led kicks. Is

527
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,000
Speaker 6: anybody scoring leg kicks anymore? You know, they hurt, right,

528
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:03,600
Speaker 6: They hurt and they scored, right.

529
00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 13: I think the Johns might prove that they're pretty freaking

530
00:24:06,920 --> 00:24:07,880
Speaker 13: devastating the guy.

531
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Speaker 11: It's unbelievable, Listen.

532
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,879
Speaker 6: I think the round in question, the round in question

533
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 6: was that second round that that really was the difference.

534
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 6: I think the only one who gave it to Demetrius

535
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 6: Johnson was for Marcus for solace. And if you look

536
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,840
Speaker 6: at the significant strikes that were landed, I think it

537
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:28,680
Speaker 6: was fifteen of twenty nine for DJ, eleven of thirty three.

538
00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,439
Speaker 11: And you look at the takedown, he didn't do anything

539
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 11: with it. He landed two little strikes.

540
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,119
Speaker 6: He threw two strikes and I'm not sure those two

541
00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 6: strikes on the ground even landed.

542
00:24:39,040 --> 00:24:42,080
Speaker 5: So yeah, and Kenny outstruck him and.

543
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 6: We're gonna give the round to him because of a

544
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 6: takedown and he didn't do anything with it.

545
00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 5: Kenny, what do we do? Let's not forget that this

546
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 5: is the most dominant bandam Way.

547
00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,480
Speaker 13: I mean, whatever weightager bandam Way they think he is,

548
00:24:55,560 --> 00:24:58,240
Speaker 13: right Flyway, he's the most yeah Flyway.

549
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 5: He's the most dominant flyweight ever.

550
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:02,440
Speaker 13: I mean, how do you not give the guy to

551
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,399
Speaker 13: I mean, and I'm not saying you have to scool

552
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,320
Speaker 13: like that. But I don't think he earned that round.

553
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,440
Speaker 13: I think two. I had a one, two definitely for

554
00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 13: for Mighty Mouse. And then when it got to like

555
00:25:13,240 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 13: the fourth, I'm like, you know what, somebody could have

556
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:16,879
Speaker 13: given him the other round.

557
00:25:17,080 --> 00:25:19,879
Speaker 5: I mean I could see that happening. But I gotta

558
00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:21,360
Speaker 5: tell you, I couldn't agree with you more.

559
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 13: I think you're dead on with that dead and and

560
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 13: you got to look at listen, Henderson.

561
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Speaker 6: Hudo is an amazing fighter. I knew him he was

562
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:32,480
Speaker 6: even in the UFC. He's tremendous. But are we gonna

563
00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:36,840
Speaker 6: score the three takedown he shot eleven times he hit.

564
00:25:36,920 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 6: He hit three of those takedowns. One of them he

565
00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 6: was able to keep him on the ground and.

566
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Speaker 5: That was it.

567
00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,000
Speaker 6: So I don't know, you know, those eight takedowns that

568
00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 6: he stopped, we're not going to give to Demetrius.

569
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Speaker 5: I don't know.

570
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:51,640
Speaker 10: See, I disagree with you. I disagree with both you motherfuckers.

571
00:25:51,680 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 9: But I love you and I respect your authority, and

572
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,960
Speaker 9: I know that you bought a man in a cage.

573
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Speaker 5: John, Can you keep your tone down the little bit please?

574
00:26:01,400 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 9: Well here's the thing, Like the first thing you should

575
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:06,680
Speaker 9: do is throw out the commentators scorecard, and Kenny knows

576
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 9: that as well as anyone. Okay, because you're calling the

577
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:12,160
Speaker 9: fight and your focus is not on the judges necessarily.

578
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:15,920
Speaker 9: But I just felt like it was effective grappling and

579
00:26:15,960 --> 00:26:18,400
Speaker 9: wrestling from Henry, and I do feel like he deserved

580
00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 9: credit for the ground control. You're right, Kenny, The strikes

581
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:25,080
Speaker 9: weren't super effective, right, but he took him down in

582
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,200
Speaker 9: rounds two, four, and five, I believe, and was able

583
00:26:28,240 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 9: to keep him there and control the man.

584
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Speaker 6: He only did one. He only kept him down for

585
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 6: about thirty seconds. And again, let's say this is a fight, John,

586
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,480
Speaker 6: we have to remember it is a fight. I take

587
00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,040
Speaker 6: you down. If I take you down and I'm holding you,

588
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:45,000
Speaker 6: am I beating you up? Am? I? No?

589
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,800
Speaker 9: I might not doing damage, but I think you're you're

590
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 9: minimizing what detailed.

591
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:50,920
Speaker 10: Like DJ can't get back to his feet. To me,

592
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:51,760
Speaker 10: that's effective.

593
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 11: Okay, what if I or you're not moving?

594
00:26:55,359 --> 00:26:55,639
Speaker 6: Am I?

595
00:26:55,680 --> 00:26:57,600
Speaker 11: Am I effective as a grappler? Am? I? Are you

596
00:26:57,680 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 11: scoring that round for me?

597
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 10: He was a five enough to keep the position.

598
00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 9: And I guess maybe I'm I'm under crediting DJ for

599
00:27:04,680 --> 00:27:06,080
Speaker 9: what he did on the feet in that round. I

600
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,800
Speaker 9: certainly should have rewatched the second round before the show today.

601
00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 13: Erectly here, I'm gonna say, yeah, John, I'm gonna say,

602
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 13: if nothing happens standing up like nothing, that was a stalemate,

603
00:27:15,359 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 13: then I give the round to Sahudo.

604
00:27:16,840 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 5: Then he did something. He took the guy down. He

605
00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 5: controlled him.

606
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 13: But I don't think it the gates would Demetrius did before,

607
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 13: you know, before he literally.

608
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,639
Speaker 6: Down for about thirty seconds. He held him down for

609
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 6: about thirty seconds. From there, Demetrius was able to get

610
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:33,240
Speaker 6: him off, elevated him, got into a single leg, and

611
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 6: then Henry Sujudo is using the inside of his thought

612
00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 6: to throw shoulder strikes. Now again, I like that he

613
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 6: was staying busy. Are you really hurting a guy with

614
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 6: the inside of your thigh leg inside of your thigh

615
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:46,400
Speaker 6: ray to hurt?

616
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 5: Now the way let me tell you some Kenny. You

617
00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:50,960
Speaker 5: notice as well as I do. That's the way you

618
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:54,080
Speaker 5: train when you don't want to hurt somebody, right, right.

619
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 6: And yeah, exactly, Well, but I mean it wasn't it

620
00:27:58,119 --> 00:27:58,760
Speaker 6: wasn't effective.

621
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 9: Well, I I feel like you gotta be I mean,

622
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 9: this way you gotta fight DJ right, I mean, there's

623
00:28:03,680 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 9: a reason why this guy hasn't lost in a long time,

624
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:07,360
Speaker 9: and I think this was the game.

625
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:11,040
Speaker 5: And again Johnson, Yeah, that's the sad part. Henry did

626
00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 5: a great job.

627
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:13,040
Speaker 13: I don't want to even keep going with that because

628
00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 13: looking it was a close fight.

629
00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:15,919
Speaker 5: Yeah, he made some adjustments.

630
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 13: I thought it was a great fight, but I wouldn't

631
00:28:18,520 --> 00:28:20,960
Speaker 13: have taken that away from the champion then, and let's

632
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:21,480
Speaker 13: let's give it.

633
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 10: But that whole argument, Ray, I mean, what what does

634
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 10: that even mean? What does that mean?

635
00:28:25,920 --> 00:28:27,959
Speaker 5: It means nothing, It means nothing. I get it. I

636
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:30,359
Speaker 5: get it means nothing. I just feel obligated to.

637
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 13: Say, well, and it has been around, it's been, but

638
00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:34,920
Speaker 13: it's an.

639
00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:38,000
Speaker 6: Unfortunate It's an unfortunate thing, right because you get a

640
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 6: guy who he was the record holder for most style defenses.

641
00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 6: That story is over because in my opinion it's still

642
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,040
Speaker 6: it was a close fight, but it wasn't the right decision.

643
00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:51,000
Speaker 6: And I think when you're again, I definitely think Ray,

644
00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 6: that that was a big motivating factor for the judges

645
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 6: going wait a sec. Demetrius is on his back and

646
00:28:57,320 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 6: the round.

647
00:28:58,040 --> 00:28:59,520
Speaker 5: We had seen that before.

648
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:01,720
Speaker 11: That's really what that was about.

649
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 5: And I believe I believe that was it. I believe

650
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:05,920
Speaker 5: that's what it was about.

651
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 13: If it was another fighter besides Dimitrius Johnson, that guy

652
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 13: gets to win. I think that's what they saw. And uh,

653
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:14,560
Speaker 13: you know, look to complicate matters. I mean, you got

654
00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 13: to give it up to Demitrius Johnson. What a gentleman

655
00:29:17,400 --> 00:29:20,200
Speaker 13: after the fight. Yeah, I mean there's another guy that

656
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 13: has he's got his he's got his life in order. Man,

657
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Speaker 13: that guy was so complimentary and sportsman like I can't

658
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Speaker 13: I really. Yeah, well true martial artists and and I'll

659
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Speaker 13: tell you what there was. You know, some guys say

660
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Speaker 13: it and you don't believe it. He said it, and

661
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Speaker 13: I believed it. He was what a what a nice guy.

662
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Speaker 13: Gave it up to the other guy. And uh, I

663
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Speaker 13: mean that that's a good dude right there. Whatever, you know,

664
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Speaker 13: And I like to see those guys do good. But again,

665
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Speaker 13: Henry's a great guy. Do I think he's going to

666
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Speaker 13: be a great ambassador and uh, we'll see what happens.

667
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Speaker 13: But I just thought I did have the other guy

668
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Speaker 13: winning the fight. That was it.

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Speaker 10: And I think you're I think you're on the side.

670
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Speaker 9: Thing that maybe DJ got penalized for past greatness right

671
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Speaker 9: to just see him experience any sort of adversity there.

672
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Speaker 9: But all three judges gave both championship rounds to Henry

673
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Speaker 9: Sahudo rounds four and five, and and I think DJ

674
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Speaker 9: definitely felt his physicality a little bit in the pocket

675
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Speaker 9: and certainly on the ground, and.

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Speaker 6: He tore he supposedly he supposedly tore his l C

677
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Speaker 6: L and broke his foot around the middle of the fight,

678
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Speaker 6: so right around those that third round.

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Speaker 11: I don't know if that's why he lost rounds four

680
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Speaker 11: and five.

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Speaker 6: I thought rounds four, round four was, without a doubt

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Speaker 6: Henry Suhudo.

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Speaker 11: I know, n five was very close. Probably you know,

684
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Speaker 11: I'll give that to Henry.

685
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Speaker 6: I thought, you know, he was a little bit more

686
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Speaker 6: aggressive pursuing that takedown and it was close as far

687
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Speaker 6: as you know, striking numbers in that fifth round.

688
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Speaker 11: But uh, I thought the first three were for Demetrius.

689
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Speaker 6: But a close fight.

690
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Speaker 11: Again, you can.

691
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Speaker 5: Never say it with the robbery. That's what makes it.

692
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Speaker 5: That's what makes a trick.

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Speaker 13: You can it's not a robbery by any means, but

694
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Speaker 13: it's uh I thought it was kind of an easy

695
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Speaker 13: fight to school for me. But yeah, then then like

696
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Speaker 13: when it was getting to the end, I was like,

697
00:31:04,280 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 13: you know what, somebody could have given that guy a

698
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Speaker 13: second round based on that, and they're gonna have they

699
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Speaker 13: have a platform to stand by, you know, because of

700
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Speaker 13: the takedown.

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Speaker 5: But when you look at it, I have to agree

702
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Speaker 5: with Kenny did.

703
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Speaker 13: It was just nothing done to negate what happened at

704
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Speaker 13: the beginning of that round.

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Speaker 6: A buddy of mine who's a referee, is a professional referee,

706
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Speaker 6: he's repped in the in the UFC before, or not

707
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 6: referee judged in the UFC before. I asked him when

708
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Speaker 6: they were kind of gonna make the decision what he thought,

709
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Speaker 6: and he had it three two for Demetrius as well.

710
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Speaker 11: But yeah, I.

711
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Speaker 6: Mean, this is the sport. We got to deal with this,

712
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Speaker 6: you know. And uh, Henry Sahudo, like you said, Olympic

713
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Speaker 6: gold medalist, pen AM champion, now UFC Flyway CHAMPI he

714
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:47,880
Speaker 6: came back from losing in the first round to beating

715
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Speaker 6: Demetrius Johnson. This is a guy who anyone could get

716
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Speaker 6: behind as far as his story is inspiring. This is

717
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Speaker 6: a guy who can really go out there and be

718
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,680
Speaker 6: an ambassador for this sport. So this guy has been

719
00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:04,040
Speaker 6: working his ass off to come back. You know, get

720
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Speaker 6: this and when you and the sweetheart of a guy too.

721
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Speaker 6: So hats off to him. He made the correction, he

722
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Speaker 6: came back.

723
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Speaker 13: It's just just we're just constructively criticizing.

724
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Speaker 5: That's it. Power to him because he is a He's

725
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,280
Speaker 5: a great guy to talk. He's very humble and I

726
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 5: think he's gonna do a great job in that position.

727
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Speaker 9: Yeah, oh, Henry, sudos the man. We're not done. Send

728
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Speaker 9: and praise that guy's way. We're just getting going. Ray,

729
00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 9: we got to let you go. We got Alex Perez

730
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 9: coming up. Anything else before we let you play?

731
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Speaker 13: Well, you let me go for Alex Perez. I mean, Kenny,

732
00:32:35,880 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 13: I demand to talk to somebody. Come on, is Alex

733
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 13: Perez before we go? Just tell me who he is?

734
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,360
Speaker 9: At least I can't. I mean, you're lucky that I'm

735
00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,320
Speaker 9: not going to tell him. What the hell you just said?

736
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Speaker 10: What he wanted for in m m A. What's your right?

737
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Speaker 5: I love the guy whoever he is.

738
00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 13: I'll talk to you long ago, and please tell her.

739
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 5: Tell Alex I said take it East zero.

740
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Speaker 9: A couple of bullets for the UFC flyweight contender. I'm

741
00:33:04,800 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 9: gonna call Sean Shelby. I'm gonna have U Lucas Sasaki

742
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:11,400
Speaker 9: fight Alex Perez next, and then you'll know exactly who

743
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Speaker 9: Alex Perez is. I haven't put the hell out of

744
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Speaker 9: your guy, w Hu Lucas Sasaki, Ray long Ago got

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Speaker 9: flyweights down there at Longgo Wideman MMA. Biggest lovation at

746
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Speaker 9: Staples Center by far Brian t City or Tega UFC Featherweight.

747
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Speaker 9: take a Toyot tires are as tough as they come.

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Speaker 9: They are the official tire of the UFC. There's a

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Speaker 9: lot to love about Toyot tires. Aggressive design, proven on

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Speaker 10: Of course, they look great as well.

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Speaker 9: They are also the choice of so many fighters on

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Speaker 9: this UFC roster, Domina Cruz among others. Tough people love

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Speaker 9: t City far and away biggest ovation at Staples Center,

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Speaker 9: and I think it speaks to just how big a

767
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Speaker 9: star this is.

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Speaker 10: Yes, exactly trying.

769
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Speaker 11: I don't know city, that's how you make it.

770
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Speaker 10: But yeah, yeah, that's close close enough. Yeah, yeah, he he.

771
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Speaker 9: Just has resonated with so many people, and all of

772
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Speaker 9: it's based upon what he's done inside the octagon. But

773
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Speaker 9: more on that later because now joining us on the

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Speaker 9: guest line a man who this past weekend produced the

775
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Speaker 9: biggest win of his MMA career and one of the

776
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Speaker 9: biggest wins of the night, UFC Flyway contender Alex Perez.

777
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Speaker 9: As far as I'm concerned, he's now a contender.

778
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Speaker 10: Alex. Appreciate your time today, man, How are you?

779
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, how are you guys?

780
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:50,000
Speaker 10: Oh? This is good.

781
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Speaker 9: I didn't know we're gonna have video. Man, it's good

782
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,080
Speaker 9: to see. We appreciate you waking up early so I

783
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,200
Speaker 9: know you're a big flyweight. Your favorite restaurant has called

784
00:34:58,280 --> 00:35:01,320
Speaker 9: all that Korean barbecue. Did you get there on Sunday

785
00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 9: or or are you going today?

786
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:04,719
Speaker 12: Uh?

787
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:07,080
Speaker 14: Now, I didn't get there on Sunday. My mom came

788
00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 14: into town, so I took her out to eat. Uh.

789
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 14: We ran out to some barbecue joint and then I

790
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Speaker 14: got to hit the O c ferrer of my mom,

791
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Speaker 14: her husband, and you know, my girlfriend and one of

792
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Speaker 14: my good buddies.

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Speaker 10: All right, well you certainly earned it.

794
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,880
Speaker 9: So Saturday night, now you extend your winning streak to

795
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Speaker 9: eight wins overall. First round knockout of the previously undefeated

796
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Speaker 9: Jose Shorty Torres. So you told us before the fight

797
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 9: that that you prioritized a fast start, and that's how

798
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 9: you approached it. But this was like a historic first

799
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:37,880
Speaker 9: round in terms of what you accomplished. How did this

800
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 9: fight go down relative to what you thought you were

801
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Speaker 9: going to see from Taurres?

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Speaker 14: I thought, you know, he was going to be hard,

803
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 14: you know, obviously hard to finish. He hit hard, you know,

804
00:35:50,040 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 14: getn't hit you know, he hit me a couple of times.

805
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 14: Oh got to keep my hands up else I can

806
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Speaker 14: really make a mistake. But I felt like everything worked

807
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Speaker 14: out on my for you know, on my training, everything off.

808
00:36:02,760 --> 00:36:04,480
Speaker 14: I listened to my coaches in the corner when they're

809
00:36:04,480 --> 00:36:08,839
Speaker 14: telling me to relax. Yeah, I feel like everything I

810
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,759
Speaker 14: was getting ready for happened in the fight.

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Speaker 9: So I don't know how much you know about the numbers,

812
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:16,880
Speaker 9: but I reached out to our fight metric guys. Today

813
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Speaker 9: eighty four significant strikes, the second most landed in the

814
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Speaker 9: first round of any UFC fight ever. I got to

815
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Speaker 9: go back to Tim Sylvia's UFC debut UFC thirty nine

816
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Speaker 9: against Wesley Cabbage Korea, ninety four significant strikes, but he

817
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Speaker 9: had five minutes right that fight went into a second round.

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Speaker 9: So you did this in three minutes and thirty six seconds.

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Speaker 9: I mean, is there any hesitation in that moment knowing

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Speaker 9: that that type of output could be something you got

821
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Speaker 9: to deal with later in the fight or is it

822
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Speaker 9: just all systems go?

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Speaker 14: It's all systems go.

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Speaker 15: Man.

825
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Speaker 14: I come in there to fight, and I come in

826
00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 14: there to win. You know, I'm a big believer in cardio.

827
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Speaker 14: That's the only thing you can really control, you know,

828
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Speaker 14: I work, work, out a lot work out with Corey Beasley.

829
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Speaker 14: He's like in shape and that's the one thing. You know,

830
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Speaker 14: he's my share in the condition coach, and that's the

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Speaker 14: one thing I kind of like tell him a I'm

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Speaker 14: a grinder. I need to be able to keep the

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Speaker 14: best pace for three rounds five minutes non stop from

834
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Speaker 14: start to go. And he did a great job. Without him,

835
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Speaker 14: for sure, I wouldn't be able to do that.

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Speaker 6: Now, Alex, you have a tremendous record, You're on an

837
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Speaker 6: awesome win streak right now.

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Speaker 11: What's next for you?

839
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Speaker 6: Is there is there a guy out there in that

840
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Speaker 6: division that you want to fight?

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 14: If do you see once listened up me versus Brandon Moreno.

843
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Speaker 14: I think that's a great fight for the fans, for

844
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Speaker 14: both of us. I think we can both test ourselves

845
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Speaker 14: on the stand up and on the ground. So I

846
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Speaker 14: would love to fight Brendon Moreno.

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Speaker 6: How far away are you from a title shot? Do

848
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Speaker 6: you think?

849
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Speaker 14: I'm not too sure?

850
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Speaker 11: Man?

851
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Speaker 14: Right now, I'm just taking one flight at a time,

852
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Speaker 14: Like I've been in the sport a long time and

853
00:37:55,640 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 14: I've competed a long time. If you think too far ahead,

854
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,080
Speaker 14: then you know you don't see the bumps in the

855
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,840
Speaker 14: road that are in the future. I mean I'm gonna

856
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Speaker 14: lose eventually. I'm not saying I'm not gonna lose ever.

857
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:09,120
Speaker 14: I've already lost before, you know. And like I said,

858
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Speaker 14: if I see too far ahead, then I might not

859
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Speaker 14: ever get there.

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Speaker 5: I'm just focused on what's in front of me right now.

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Speaker 6: All right, I'm gonna ask you a question about the future,

862
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,799
Speaker 6: but please answer. Do you do you think you would

863
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Speaker 6: ever fight at one hundred and thirty five pounds? Is

864
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Speaker 6: one five a tough cut for you?

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Speaker 15: Actually?

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Speaker 14: Pretty if I have enough time.

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Speaker 5: Think, you know.

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Speaker 14: Like I said, my biggest weakness is probably all you

869
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Speaker 14: can eat places.

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Speaker 5: I get pretty.

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Speaker 14: I get pretty big in between camps. But perfecting athletes

872
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Speaker 14: then an amazing job with me. We keep in contact

873
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Speaker 14: constantly in and out of camp. Paulina and Michelle, those

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Speaker 14: two ladies are miracle workers. Without them, for sure wouldn't

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00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:56,040
Speaker 14: be able to make the wait and feel as good

876
00:38:56,040 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 14: as I did and be able to rehydrate like I did.

877
00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 14: You know, I felt so Eventually maybe one thirty fives,

878
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 14: But right now my time is not one twenty five,

879
00:39:06,239 --> 00:39:07,479
Speaker 14: and I'm here to make a run.

880
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 9: UFC Flyway contender Alex Perez with us here on the

881
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,280
Speaker 9: Antic Imploring podcast. I know a lot of us were

882
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,360
Speaker 9: kind of surprised to see that you didn't get a

883
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 9: performance bonus, maybe because your fight was so early in

884
00:39:18,200 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 9: the night and there was obviously a lot of competition thereafter.

885
00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:23,600
Speaker 9: But when you produced like this biggest win of your career.

886
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 9: But I got to think you're playing that waiting game,

887
00:39:26,680 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 9: hoping that fifty K comes in, and even though you

888
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,520
Speaker 9: were worthy, I guess that didn't come your way at

889
00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 9: the end of the night my met.

890
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:34,640
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, that kind of sucked.

891
00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:36,239
Speaker 14: But at the same time too, I can't take it

892
00:39:36,280 --> 00:39:38,520
Speaker 14: away from any of the guys that got it. I mean,

893
00:39:38,560 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 14: we all go out there to perform. I was hoping

894
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 14: to get that, you know, fifty g's. I'll be able

895
00:39:43,520 --> 00:39:45,520
Speaker 14: to put down a down payment on a house. You know,

896
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:47,640
Speaker 14: that's my goal for this year, to be able to

897
00:39:47,920 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 14: make enough money to put down down payment on the house.

898
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,839
Speaker 14: But I'm gonna have to earn it another way.

899
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 9: Well, hey man, you're three and zero in the UFC

900
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:59,839
Speaker 9: twenty one and four overall, you're only twenty six years old.

901
00:40:00,120 --> 00:40:01,959
Speaker 9: Like the Brandon Moreno call out, I think that makes

902
00:40:01,960 --> 00:40:05,359
Speaker 9: some sense. It's interesting that Ken Flow talked about bantam weight,

903
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 9: and sometimes there are high profiles short notice opportunities that

904
00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,160
Speaker 9: really can propel you forward. But it sounds like for you,

905
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:13,799
Speaker 9: if it was going to be a short notice thing,

906
00:40:14,080 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 9: it would have to be like a big name rank

907
00:40:16,040 --> 00:40:18,720
Speaker 9: guy at thirty five, and it would take you probably

908
00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:20,839
Speaker 9: what four weeks to get down to twenty six.

909
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:24,040
Speaker 14: Uh yeah, Like this time, I did it in about

910
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:26,200
Speaker 14: three weeks. For the contenders, I did about two and

911
00:40:26,239 --> 00:40:30,799
Speaker 14: a half weeks. The same thing for Eric. The Eric

912
00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:32,880
Speaker 14: Shelton fight. You know, I missed the fly and actually

913
00:40:33,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 14: screwed up, But I mean I took the fight on

914
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 14: three weeks.

915
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 5: Notice three and a half weeks.

916
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,200
Speaker 14: Notice three weeks notice Eric as well missed about half

917
00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 14: a pound. Like I can make the weight, but I

918
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:46,640
Speaker 14: mean having more time will obviously be better.

919
00:40:46,680 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: I can come into.

920
00:40:47,719 --> 00:40:49,759
Speaker 6: Fight week I won like I came in this time.

921
00:40:49,800 --> 00:40:53,120
Speaker 14: I won thirty seven, you know, which isn't bad. But

922
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:54,919
Speaker 14: I would like to be a little bit lower, maybe

923
00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 14: two pounds lighter, But it is what it is. You know,

924
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,560
Speaker 14: I got take the opportunities of use he gives you,

925
00:41:01,600 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 14: because you don't get many, and you know, if you

926
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 14: want to stay active in this game, you have to

927
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 14: take short notice fights.

928
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:11,480
Speaker 9: All right, Last thing before we let you go, this

929
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 9: division now has a new hunted Henry Shudo outpointing Demetrius Johnson.

930
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 10: Did you see the fight?

931
00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:21,920
Speaker 9: What kind of chance did you give Henry going in

932
00:41:21,960 --> 00:41:23,920
Speaker 9: and what do you think about the new king?

933
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 5: Yes, I watched to find the back.

934
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 14: I mean, it was a great fight for Henry. Honestly,

935
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,720
Speaker 14: I didn't think he was gonna pull it off. Dimitri

936
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,000
Speaker 14: is just so dominant everywhere, but he did a great

937
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 14: job of fixing the biggest I think the biggest hole

938
00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:40,439
Speaker 14: in his game was a clinch. You did a great

939
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,520
Speaker 14: job when Dimitri's got on the clinch to either get

940
00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 14: hit to hit or throwing the takedown right away. So

941
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:48,440
Speaker 14: Dimitris wasn't able to really really get any offense off

942
00:41:48,440 --> 00:41:51,280
Speaker 14: of in there. You know, those takedowns, the inside trips

943
00:41:51,320 --> 00:41:54,360
Speaker 14: really kind of kind of I think mess with Mighty Mouse.

944
00:41:54,719 --> 00:41:57,040
Speaker 14: I think they kind of like it made him hesitate

945
00:41:57,040 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 14: a little bit about clinching up with Henry, so who go?

946
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:01,680
Speaker 14: And then I also thought like he didn't go to

947
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:04,319
Speaker 14: a lake kick, you know when he was when he

948
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 14: was a he turned southball a couple of times. I

949
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:11,720
Speaker 14: would have stayed right, right handed stance and just blested

950
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 14: that leg. He did a great job blessing that leg,

951
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 14: and then all of a sudden he stopped. I'm not

952
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 14: sure it's because of the knee injury or what it was,

953
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,799
Speaker 14: but I would have attacked the front leg more. I would

954
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,600
Speaker 14: have liked to see that the clinch game, you know.

955
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,960
Speaker 14: Like I said, so who did a great job stopping that?

956
00:42:28,719 --> 00:42:30,480
Speaker 9: Well, it sounds like you watch that fight as if

957
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:32,200
Speaker 9: you're gonna be fighting one of them one day and

958
00:42:32,239 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 9: it won't be next, but certainly got to think it's

959
00:42:34,040 --> 00:42:36,560
Speaker 9: going to be a ranked opponent for Alex Perez. Excited

960
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 9: to see you and see how far you can take

961
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:38,799
Speaker 9: this thing.

962
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 6: Man.

963
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 9: Congrats on a huge win this weekend and hopefully we

964
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:43,319
Speaker 9: see at least once more before the year is out.

965
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:44,000
Speaker 10: Man, enjoy the win.

966
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 14: Thanks, Man. I really appreciate you guys having me, you know,

967
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 14: means a lot.

968
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 9: Got it, Man, Our theory is Alex Perez UFC flyweight

969
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 9: contender with us today, and I think this win might

970
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,240
Speaker 9: have resonated a little bit more if it had happened

971
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,279
Speaker 9: later in the night can flow, but it certainly set

972
00:42:58,320 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 9: the tone for the rest of the night. You know,

973
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 9: Shorty Torres is in the notorious slow star room. When

974
00:43:03,400 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 9: we sat down with Shorty on Thursday, DC was like, dude,

975
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 9: you got to change that, you know, especially against someone

976
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 9: like Alex Perez, you would think. And Perez just blasted

977
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 9: him historically to get the biggest win of his career.

978
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,399
Speaker 9: So congrats to Alex Perez. I want to circle back

979
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:20,760
Speaker 9: on a few things and Sohudo DJ in a minute.

980
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 9: But first, in terms of the greatest banham weight of

981
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:25,880
Speaker 9: all time, and I know some people don't like the

982
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:28,439
Speaker 9: absolutes and they don't like when we go down this road.

983
00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:30,360
Speaker 9: Part of the reason we do is because the UFC

984
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 9: launched in nineteen ninety three and right now we are

985
00:43:33,320 --> 00:43:36,040
Speaker 9: in an era where we are seeing some of the

986
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 9: greatest fighters of all time in their respective divisions, and

987
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:42,120
Speaker 9: as the game evolves, a lot of the greatest fighters

988
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,640
Speaker 9: of all time are going to be on your television

989
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:46,960
Speaker 9: right now in twenty eighteen and beyond. When you talk

990
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 9: about the greatest bandam weight in MMA history, Hennon Burrow

991
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,760
Speaker 9: is no longer in that conversation. It's a very simple conversation, Kenny.

992
00:43:53,760 --> 00:43:57,000
Speaker 9: If I'm not mistaken, it's two names. It's Domina Cruz

993
00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:57,640
Speaker 9: and it's TJ.

994
00:43:57,680 --> 00:43:58,200
Speaker 10: Dillashaw.

995
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 9: And I think both have a strong case that can

996
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 9: be made easily, and I will if you won't. But

997
00:44:03,960 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 9: I just don't think that people are so impassioned on

998
00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 9: one side or the other. To me, I could sit

999
00:44:09,120 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 9: here and make a case for whichever guy you don't

1000
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 9: as quick as I can make the case for the other.

1001
00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:17,040
Speaker 11: I agree, listen for a dominant Cruise.

1002
00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:20,800
Speaker 6: Obviously he has had issues injury wise in the UFC,

1003
00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:23,359
Speaker 6: but you have to include what he was doing over

1004
00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,200
Speaker 6: in the WC and the consistency he had over there,

1005
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 6: and you know the fact that he does have a

1006
00:44:29,680 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 6: win at the end of the day over TJ Dolashaw.

1007
00:44:32,000 --> 00:44:34,799
Speaker 6: So that's a fight that I'm sure TJ would want.

1008
00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 6: I think a lot of fans still want to see that.

1009
00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 6: I'm curious to see if TJ can make those adjustments

1010
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 6: and get that win back. I don't know if that's

1011
00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:50,160
Speaker 6: the most exciting fight in that division, but it might

1012
00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 6: be the most intriguing fight, and I think that is

1013
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,720
Speaker 6: one of those fights that will determine who the greatest

1014
00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,120
Speaker 6: Phantom waight is in that division. You look at TJ Delshaw,

1015
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:00,080
Speaker 6: the guy who was the guy was headed Burrat. He

1016
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 6: was undefeated for like ten years. He was destroying everybody,

1017
00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:07,919
Speaker 6: and TJ went out there and destroyed him. Dominic, of course,

1018
00:45:07,960 --> 00:45:11,880
Speaker 6: never had the opportunity to fight Henn in Burrow. But

1019
00:45:12,719 --> 00:45:15,520
Speaker 6: you know TJ was there and healthy and beat all

1020
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 6: those guys. So again beat the guy who beat Domina Cruz.

1021
00:45:20,719 --> 00:45:25,319
Speaker 6: But then TJ lost to Dominic of course, so it

1022
00:45:25,360 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 6: gets tricky. But right now you look at TJ's consistency

1023
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: and the way that he's going about it.

1024
00:45:31,520 --> 00:45:33,120
Speaker 11: He's finishing a lot of these guys.

1025
00:45:33,719 --> 00:45:36,040
Speaker 6: You know, there's a very strong case to be made

1026
00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,040
Speaker 6: for TJ, but for Dominic as well.

1027
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,719
Speaker 9: You know, John Jones never had the opportunity to fight

1028
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,279
Speaker 9: Anthony Rumble Johnson, but part of that was his own

1029
00:45:44,320 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 9: doing right. Dominica Cruz never had the opportunity to fight

1030
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 9: Hennon Barrow tough breaks, but part of that was his

1031
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:53,320
Speaker 9: own doing right. And I think Daniel Cormier's two wins

1032
00:45:53,320 --> 00:45:55,839
Speaker 9: over Anthony Rumble Johnson, no one seems to give him

1033
00:45:55,840 --> 00:45:57,600
Speaker 9: credit for those. They say, oh, Rumble gave up at

1034
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,400
Speaker 9: the end of the fight. Right, that was a dangerous

1035
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,719
Speaker 9: fight for John Jones and he never had to have it.

1036
00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:03,920
Speaker 9: Henn and Brow is a dangerous fight for Dominict Cruz.

1037
00:46:04,040 --> 00:46:07,920
Speaker 9: Dangerous matchup, never won that fight. Right, Historically, it's hard

1038
00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 9: to argue with Cruz's body of work twenty one and

1039
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:13,040
Speaker 9: one and you know, Avenge the only loss and the

1040
00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:16,400
Speaker 9: wins over favor obviously to close out that series emphatically

1041
00:46:16,480 --> 00:46:20,520
Speaker 9: and everything else coming back and beating TJ. At least

1042
00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:24,400
Speaker 9: according to most in twenty sixteen and that night unequivocally

1043
00:46:24,480 --> 00:46:27,279
Speaker 9: he was the greatest unchallenged bandam weight of all time.

1044
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 9: But TJ Dillashaw since his UFC debut against John Donson

1045
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 9: has won every fight, with the exception of two losses

1046
00:46:35,040 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 9: by split decision to hapfey Alisansal in a close fight

1047
00:46:37,440 --> 00:46:40,320
Speaker 9: and a loss he avenged and a razor thin close

1048
00:46:40,520 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 9: fight to Dominic Cruz. Right, So, if you sit down

1049
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,240
Speaker 9: with TJ, as we did on Thursday, he'll sit across

1050
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:47,200
Speaker 9: from you and say I should be riding a thirteen

1051
00:46:47,239 --> 00:46:50,600
Speaker 9: fight winning streak with seven consecutive defenses. And by the way,

1052
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:53,360
Speaker 9: now on paper he has two wins over Henn and

1053
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:57,400
Speaker 9: Burrow both finishes and two wins over Cody Garbrand both finishes.

1054
00:46:57,719 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 9: So don't tell me TJ. Dillashaw doesn't have a kid.

1055
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 9: Is the greatest band of weight of all time. And

1056
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:04,640
Speaker 9: I hope Domina Cruz is not listening to the anak

1057
00:47:04,640 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 9: Implorian podcast because he is a good friend, you know.

1058
00:47:07,960 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 9: But don't tell me TJ doesn't have a case, you know.

1059
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,600
Speaker 9: And you can be sure if dom and I go

1060
00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 9: down this road, when I see him next, I'll say

1061
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 9: the same thing to his face.

1062
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:16,839
Speaker 10: You know what I mean.

1063
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 9: But it's a two man race, and if you think otherwise,

1064
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 9: you're just not paying attention.

1065
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 10: As far as Henry Sajudo's win is concerned.

1066
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:25,920
Speaker 9: Kenny, I'm glad you and Ray got into it in

1067
00:47:26,000 --> 00:47:28,319
Speaker 9: terms of what Demetrius Johnson had done because I do

1068
00:47:28,400 --> 00:47:30,799
Speaker 9: think he got the better of the striking exchanges. And

1069
00:47:30,840 --> 00:47:34,319
Speaker 9: you're right because after that crazy situation early in the

1070
00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:39,000
Speaker 9: fight with with Henry's foot, he was getting those leg

1071
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 9: kicks and they were landing, and because maybe Henry is

1072
00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:45,160
Speaker 9: thick and wasn't reacting to them in a negative way,

1073
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 9: that maybe the judges didn't give him credit for those

1074
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,360
Speaker 9: I have no argument with a three to two DJ scorecard.

1075
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 9: But when race starts to go down a path of

1076
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:55,080
Speaker 9: to beat the champion, you have to you know, to

1077
00:47:55,080 --> 00:47:57,160
Speaker 9: be the champion, you got to beat the champion. That's

1078
00:47:57,200 --> 00:47:59,359
Speaker 9: the most ridiculous thing in the world, Kenny. I mean,

1079
00:47:59,360 --> 00:48:02,200
Speaker 9: it's like the judges, the referee should have a knowledge

1080
00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,719
Speaker 9: of the fighters right in terms of tendencies before they

1081
00:48:05,719 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 9: go in there a little bit, even though they don't

1082
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,840
Speaker 9: get the assignment until fight night. But if I'm a

1083
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:11,560
Speaker 9: judge in a perfect world, you have no idea who's

1084
00:48:11,560 --> 00:48:14,360
Speaker 9: coming in as the champion. You judge around, not based

1085
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 9: upon who walked in last correct.

1086
00:48:17,320 --> 00:48:19,520
Speaker 6: And we've talked about this, We've gone down this road

1087
00:48:19,840 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 6: many times before. A fight should be scored based on

1088
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 6: who is winning that round period, not on what they've accomplished.

1089
00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:32,360
Speaker 6: So I agree with you there, And yeah, do I

1090
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:34,920
Speaker 6: think they got the decision wrong? Yeah?

1091
00:48:35,440 --> 00:48:36,800
Speaker 11: Was it absolutely close?

1092
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:41,399
Speaker 6: Yes, yes it was. So Again, I'm just amazed by

1093
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:44,960
Speaker 6: what Henry Sujudo has accomplished in combat sports. You look

1094
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,320
Speaker 6: at his wrestling career, a guy in his early twenties

1095
00:48:48,360 --> 00:48:51,759
Speaker 6: to go and be an Olympic champion. I mean, the

1096
00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 6: adversity that this guy has experienced early in his life,

1097
00:48:55,480 --> 00:48:58,239
Speaker 6: from I think taking last in the world Championships in

1098
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,040
Speaker 6: freestyle wrestling to being an Olympic gold medalist the very

1099
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 6: next year, and everything he has to deal with, you know,

1100
00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,920
Speaker 6: from his family life and growing up in the kind

1101
00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,879
Speaker 6: of situation that he did in LA And I mean,

1102
00:49:09,920 --> 00:49:11,560
Speaker 6: this is the guy that you knew was going to

1103
00:49:11,640 --> 00:49:14,760
Speaker 6: come back and come back strong against Demitrius Johnson.

1104
00:49:15,640 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 11: He performed so well.

1105
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:20,080
Speaker 6: He's a guy that everyone whether you're a fan of

1106
00:49:20,080 --> 00:49:23,400
Speaker 6: the UFC or a UFC employee or you can be

1107
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:29,360
Speaker 6: proud of representing that organization as a world champion. And yeah,

1108
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:33,520
Speaker 6: I'm just blown away by Henry Suhudo and the fact

1109
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,160
Speaker 6: that he was able to pull it off against Dimitrius Johnson,

1110
00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:39,120
Speaker 6: one of the greatest fighters to ever perform inside the octagon,

1111
00:49:39,239 --> 00:49:40,640
Speaker 6: is just remarkable.

1112
00:49:41,560 --> 00:49:43,880
Speaker 9: So I want to share some things from our fighter

1113
00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 9: meeting with Henry Shudo because you can't always get to

1114
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,399
Speaker 9: this stuff in a mixed martial arts round, and even

1115
00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:50,920
Speaker 9: five of them can flow. So just what his life

1116
00:49:50,920 --> 00:49:54,320
Speaker 9: has held since the last loss to Dimitrius Johnson completely

1117
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:57,720
Speaker 9: remade himself as a striker. His boxing coach Alan Byers,

1118
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 9: developing his hands, getting him into a stance for the

1119
00:49:59,719 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 9: first time, just teaching him basic composition as a striker. Kenny,

1120
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,799
Speaker 9: I mean that was all foreign language to him. He's

1121
00:50:05,840 --> 00:50:10,080
Speaker 9: been to Singapore, Holland, Thailand, Brazil all to get different

1122
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 9: looks and feels.

1123
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 5: Right.

1124
00:50:11,239 --> 00:50:13,320
Speaker 9: I mean, how many guys are really doing that, Kenny

1125
00:50:13,320 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 9: in twenty eighteen. You know you did it back in

1126
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 9: the day, lived in Brazil. Right, how about some credit

1127
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 9: to him for doing all of these things, went to

1128
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 9: Aka and just picked cubibnrmago Medov's brain for an hour,

1129
00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:26,680
Speaker 9: you know, to talk about control on the ground.

1130
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:27,160
Speaker 6: Right.

1131
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:30,520
Speaker 9: A few quotes here from the twenty eighteen National Wrestling

1132
00:50:30,560 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 9: Hall of Fame inductee Henry Shudo. If I can't be

1133
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:36,080
Speaker 9: the best in the world, there's something wrong. Legitimately, Ken

1134
00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:37,960
Speaker 9: Flow believes at his core that if he's not the

1135
00:50:38,040 --> 00:50:40,960
Speaker 9: number one guy, even with this great Demetrius Johnson on

1136
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,600
Speaker 9: a pedestal, that something must be wrong. And he went

1137
00:50:43,640 --> 00:50:47,080
Speaker 9: out and made adjustments and was able to beat Demitrius Johnson.

1138
00:50:47,239 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 9: You know, also talking about DC and Yoel. We did

1139
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,239
Speaker 9: get to a little of this on the broadcast, but

1140
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,120
Speaker 9: you know, he sort of had this chip on his shoulder,

1141
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 9: like look at Cormier and Romero and all these championship

1142
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:00,279
Speaker 9: situations and DC the double champ, like he want an

1143
00:51:00,280 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 9: Olympic gold medal.

1144
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,160
Speaker 10: Right, he felt like he's special too and he can

1145
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:03,680
Speaker 10: do it too.

1146
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 9: And in two thousand and seven, and I'm sorry to

1147
00:51:06,360 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 9: go on here, but I'm pretty passionate about this, he

1148
00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:11,680
Speaker 9: came in dead last at the World Championships and he

1149
00:51:11,719 --> 00:51:13,440
Speaker 9: looks us in the ice says, I didn't even score

1150
00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:16,080
Speaker 9: a point against the Iranian I was fighting. And then

1151
00:51:16,120 --> 00:51:18,520
Speaker 9: he comes back a year later and he's at the

1152
00:51:18,520 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 9: top of the Olympic podium, you know, as DC puts

1153
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:23,400
Speaker 9: so well over the weekend. So to add a USC

1154
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:25,880
Speaker 9: championship to that Olympic gold. This is one of the

1155
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:29,080
Speaker 9: more special athletes that I have ever been around. A

1156
00:51:29,120 --> 00:51:31,239
Speaker 9: couple other things on UFC two twenty seven, we're trying

1157
00:51:31,239 --> 00:51:34,279
Speaker 9: to connect here with Eric Albertassin, who might even have

1158
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,400
Speaker 9: sahudo with him, but Hanato Moikano Kenny spoils the homecoming

1159
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:42,719
Speaker 9: for Cub Swanson and did it pretty emphatically. And we

1160
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,759
Speaker 9: talked about this last week in terms of you know,

1161
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:48,160
Speaker 9: Vegas always knows right, and sitting out there was Moykano

1162
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 9: at minus four hundred ken flow. Vegas knows again, Moikano's

1163
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 9: a pretty special fighter.

1164
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,600
Speaker 10: That's a hell of a jab on that young man.

1165
00:51:55,680 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, and he wants another shot at Brian Ortega.

1166
00:51:58,680 --> 00:52:00,319
Speaker 11: You know, Moikano is all.

1167
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:04,040
Speaker 6: It everywhere man, he really is, and you know, just

1168
00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:08,719
Speaker 6: he's a guy who really is a believer in the fundamentals,

1169
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:12,000
Speaker 6: not a whole lot of flash to his game, doesn't

1170
00:52:12,000 --> 00:52:15,080
Speaker 6: make a whole lot of mistakes. He's consistent, he's tall,

1171
00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 6: he's rangy for the division, and really made it look

1172
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:22,319
Speaker 6: easy against a veteran in Cubs. Cubs Swanson is a

1173
00:52:22,320 --> 00:52:24,880
Speaker 6: guy who's very dangerous. But I think the big problem

1174
00:52:24,920 --> 00:52:27,439
Speaker 6: with Cub is we didn't see any evolution in his game.

1175
00:52:27,600 --> 00:52:30,759
Speaker 6: He really has been the same guy in his last

1176
00:52:30,800 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 6: four to five fights. We haven't seen anything really upgraded

1177
00:52:35,239 --> 00:52:36,439
Speaker 6: that much in Cubs game.

1178
00:52:36,600 --> 00:52:38,200
Speaker 11: I think he does get a little reckless.

1179
00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,799
Speaker 6: It's what makes him dangerous, but it's also what makes

1180
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,919
Speaker 6: him vulnerable to getting finished out there and unfortunate there

1181
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,280
Speaker 6: for Cub Swanson, who is a big time fan favorite.

1182
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 11: He's one of the nicest guys in the sport. He's

1183
00:52:50,360 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 11: a true warrior.

1184
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 6: But Moi Kano just had his number man just all

1185
00:52:54,160 --> 00:52:57,200
Speaker 6: over him start to finish.

1186
00:52:56,520 --> 00:53:00,760
Speaker 9: And because he got more done against Brian t the Ortega,

1187
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 9: I would think that the nature of this win against

1188
00:53:03,000 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 9: Swanson putting him away more emphatically, you know, than anyone recently,

1189
00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:10,440
Speaker 9: at least earlier than Ortega did it. Edgar didn't put

1190
00:53:10,480 --> 00:53:13,080
Speaker 9: him away. If my memory serves right, this puts him

1191
00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,759
Speaker 9: in the top five. He'll take Swanson's ranking and he's

1192
00:53:16,840 --> 00:53:18,759
Speaker 9: right on that short list. I mean, Max Holloway is

1193
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:20,879
Speaker 9: sort of this great unknown right now, but maybe that's

1194
00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:23,960
Speaker 9: putting it a little strongly. Moikano is most definitely in

1195
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,840
Speaker 9: the mix. Pedro Muno's and Brett Johns. I don't know

1196
00:53:26,880 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 9: if you saw the prelims on FX Ken Flow. I mean,

1197
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:31,440
Speaker 9: that was a Fight of the Night bonus winner on

1198
00:53:31,520 --> 00:53:33,680
Speaker 9: any other night, But of course, given what Sahudo and

1199
00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,319
Speaker 9: Johnson did and the back and forth nature of that

1200
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,239
Speaker 9: fight and the crowd's reaction to it, they stole that

1201
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:41,879
Speaker 9: bonus money. Did you see Muno's and John's go back

1202
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 9: and forth at all?

1203
00:53:43,320 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 11: I did?

1204
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:46,359
Speaker 10: I mean, this is a jiu jitsu guy.

1205
00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 11: Yeah, two very similar fighters out there.

1206
00:53:51,160 --> 00:53:53,640
Speaker 6: Munos I thought was just a little bit sharper, kind

1207
00:53:53,640 --> 00:53:55,839
Speaker 6: of we talked about when we broke down his fight.

1208
00:53:56,080 --> 00:53:58,200
Speaker 6: I thought he was just a little bit better everywhere

1209
00:53:58,400 --> 00:54:01,880
Speaker 6: and was able to really neuter John's on the ground.

1210
00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,120
Speaker 6: I was surprised he didn't take advantage or more advantage

1211
00:54:05,400 --> 00:54:09,799
Speaker 6: of John's on the ground, but still an excellent performance. Nonetheless,

1212
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,200
Speaker 6: both these guys not shy to trade. It's stand in

1213
00:54:13,200 --> 00:54:15,759
Speaker 6: the pocket. I thought Munnos could have fought a little

1214
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:19,600
Speaker 6: bit smarter, but still an exciting fighter who was putting together.

1215
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 11: Some awesome combinations at Brett Johns. I mean, how tough

1216
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:22,759
Speaker 11: is that guy?

1217
00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:24,279
Speaker 5: My goodness, I.

1218
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 6: Mean the shots that he took and he was firing

1219
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:28,000
Speaker 6: right back made it a.

1220
00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:32,000
Speaker 11: Very very exciting fight in Yeah. I mean, if it.

1221
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:35,000
Speaker 6: Wasn't for Sehudo and Demetrius Johnson, you know, I thought

1222
00:54:35,040 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 6: those guys really were gonna get fun of the night.

1223
00:54:37,640 --> 00:54:40,120
Speaker 9: There's a lot of pressure on Brett Johnson trying to

1224
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:42,359
Speaker 9: bring this octagon to Cardiff, Wales, and we had fun

1225
00:54:42,360 --> 00:54:44,359
Speaker 9: with it on the broadcast. Kenny, but it's like he

1226
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 9: feels like he has to almost do what Darren Till

1227
00:54:46,920 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 9: did in getting the octagon to Liverpool. He feels like

1228
00:54:49,600 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 9: he has to become a contender to really make a

1229
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 9: case for a whale show that he could co headline

1230
00:54:55,520 --> 00:54:59,319
Speaker 9: or maybe even headline. And you know, it's easier said

1231
00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:01,279
Speaker 9: than done, obviously when you start to fight these guys

1232
00:55:01,320 --> 00:55:03,200
Speaker 9: in the top fifteen like al Jamine Sterling and now

1233
00:55:03,239 --> 00:55:06,240
Speaker 9: Pedro Munio's. But do Munyo's over eight hundred jiu jitsu

1234
00:55:06,280 --> 00:55:08,840
Speaker 9: matches and all he wants to do is box, not

1235
00:55:08,920 --> 00:55:12,279
Speaker 9: even kickbox necessarily, right, Like, yeah, he kept saying when

1236
00:55:12,280 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 9: we sat down with him that he's had so much

1237
00:55:13,960 --> 00:55:17,840
Speaker 9: success against these pro boxers that all he wants to

1238
00:55:17,880 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 9: do is throw hands. You know, It's like when Rasha

1239
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 9: Evans found his hands back in the day. It's like,

1240
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:23,200
Speaker 9: I'm not trying to take you down, I just want

1241
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:26,640
Speaker 9: to throw mits. So, all right, last thing on this

1242
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,640
Speaker 9: two twenty seven main card. Thiago Santo's a winner by

1243
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:33,040
Speaker 9: unanimous decision over Kevin Holland. But a lot of the celebs,

1244
00:55:33,080 --> 00:55:35,439
Speaker 9: as Dana White alluded to post fight, we're left talking

1245
00:55:35,440 --> 00:55:38,680
Speaker 9: about Kevin Holland, did you see this fight and was

1246
00:55:38,719 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 9: this your first time seeing Kevin Holland, because those who

1247
00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:43,000
Speaker 9: watch Dana White's twos That Night Contender series know that

1248
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:45,200
Speaker 9: this is the book on him. When he gets nervous,

1249
00:55:45,239 --> 00:55:47,680
Speaker 9: he gets goofy. He likes to showboat. He'll talk the

1250
00:55:47,719 --> 00:55:50,400
Speaker 9: whole time, spitting the mouthpiece out and everything else. But

1251
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,320
Speaker 9: the celebs are all in on the Trailblazer Kevin Holland.

1252
00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 11: Yeah, I did see that fight.

1253
00:55:56,440 --> 00:55:58,759
Speaker 6: You know, I thought, first of all, Kevin Holland, he's

1254
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,799
Speaker 6: got a lot of talent, a lot potential. And you

1255
00:56:01,840 --> 00:56:04,000
Speaker 6: could see, yeah, you know, he he was, you know,

1256
00:56:04,120 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 6: kind of talking a lot and doing his thing. You

1257
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:08,400
Speaker 6: could see he was a little bit, you know, a

1258
00:56:08,400 --> 00:56:10,800
Speaker 6: little bit nervous heading into that fight against Santos. And

1259
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:15,840
Speaker 6: you know, listen, Santos was not very good on the ground.

1260
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:19,640
Speaker 6: I thought he had the right idea of even inviting

1261
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:21,319
Speaker 6: a fight on the ground, even if he was on

1262
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:23,600
Speaker 6: his back. I thought he had a chance at finishing

1263
00:56:23,640 --> 00:56:25,879
Speaker 6: Thiago Santos early on if he was on his back.

1264
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:28,000
Speaker 6: But as the fight wore on, you could see he

1265
00:56:28,040 --> 00:56:31,000
Speaker 6: was just kind of losing a little bit of confidence

1266
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 6: and of course getting tired in that process against the

1267
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:38,520
Speaker 6: thicker and perhaps stronger Thiago Santos, but Santos and his

1268
00:56:38,600 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 6: kicking game really was able to shut down Kevin Hollins's

1269
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:47,560
Speaker 6: speed with his hands, and yeah, just excellent power there

1270
00:56:47,600 --> 00:56:50,320
Speaker 6: from Thiago Santos and got.

1271
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:50,680
Speaker 11: A nice win.

1272
00:56:51,440 --> 00:56:53,040
Speaker 10: And congrats to the night's other winners.

1273
00:56:53,120 --> 00:56:55,760
Speaker 9: JJ Aldrich with the man Pat Barry in her corner,

1274
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 9: gets a win in her UFC pay per view debut,

1275
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:02,200
Speaker 9: Ricky Simoan over Montel Jackson, and hikardohamoshover Kyung Ho Kong

1276
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,080
Speaker 9: entertaining fight there, Seiman Marie over Matt Sales. Thought maybe

1277
00:57:06,080 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 9: that fight could have gone Sales his way, but congrats

1278
00:57:08,200 --> 00:57:10,480
Speaker 9: to mister Mariis Alex Perez, who you heard from earlier.

1279
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:11,000
Speaker 5: Way.

1280
00:57:11,080 --> 00:57:13,680
Speaker 9: Lee Jeong seventeen in a row now she wins her

1281
00:57:13,719 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 9: UFC debut against Danielle Taylor and Cheeto Vera the show

1282
00:57:17,240 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 9: opener with his lovely daughter in the crowd, his son

1283
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:23,000
Speaker 9: there and everybody else a winner by knockout Tko over

1284
00:57:23,280 --> 00:57:27,240
Speaker 9: Uliji Bureen. All right, big press conference Friday can flow,

1285
00:57:27,360 --> 00:57:31,000
Speaker 9: at which time the UFC announced that on October sixth,

1286
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:34,040
Speaker 9: about sixty days from now, they will close the octagon

1287
00:57:34,080 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 9: behind Beiban Nemongo metav and Connor McGregor, and I can

1288
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 9: all but guarantee that this fight will stay together. You

1289
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:41,320
Speaker 9: don't need to pray, you don't need to cross your fingers.

1290
00:57:41,520 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 9: It's a big payday for both guys, so much so

1291
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:46,760
Speaker 9: that I mean you, Connor doesn't mind fighting HRT. I

1292
00:57:46,760 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 9: mean that's the thing too that I'll say off the

1293
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,400
Speaker 9: top of eut Connor McGregor, I'm he'll fight her, right

1294
00:57:51,520 --> 00:57:53,760
Speaker 9: he's I mean, he signed a contract. He'll show up

1295
00:57:54,040 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 9: up to October sixth, and given what I'm being told,

1296
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,000
Speaker 9: Beiban Mongo Medow might be realizing in terms of the

1297
00:57:59,040 --> 00:58:01,800
Speaker 9: pay day, he's gonna show up two months from today,

1298
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,840
Speaker 9: it shall be done. One of the biggest fights, if

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00:58:04,840 --> 00:58:07,560
Speaker 9: not the biggest fight in UFC history by almost any

1300
00:58:07,640 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 9: metric can flow. And what I love about it is

1301
00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,880
Speaker 9: that there's there's no world tour. You know, I'm hyped already.

1302
00:58:12,920 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 9: You know I don't need to get more hype. This

1303
00:58:15,840 --> 00:58:20,320
Speaker 9: thing's announced sixty five days before it's gonna happen, and

1304
00:58:20,480 --> 00:58:22,480
Speaker 9: UFC two twenty nine is one hot ticket.

1305
00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:23,520
Speaker 10: I got no tickets.

1306
00:58:24,120 --> 00:58:27,479
Speaker 6: There was a fourth fight book between Habib, Normaga, Meta

1307
00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:32,440
Speaker 6: and Fergus. Yeah, and you said the very same thing, Johnny.

1308
00:58:32,480 --> 00:58:34,400
Speaker 6: You gotta be careful saying that stuff.

1309
00:58:34,440 --> 00:58:36,920
Speaker 9: You're right, I did, but I didn't say it was

1310
00:58:36,960 --> 00:58:38,880
Speaker 9: because of the money. Then I didn't say it was

1311
00:58:38,880 --> 00:58:41,000
Speaker 9: because of the money, because you know can flow that

1312
00:58:41,120 --> 00:58:44,360
Speaker 9: DC was fighting Stepe even with a torn ACL factor fixtion.

1313
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:47,640
Speaker 6: This is true, absolutely, that's all. You're right, I mean

1314
00:58:47,720 --> 00:58:49,720
Speaker 6: as an acl Yeah, you're right.

1315
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 9: Right, you're right, though, I do have foot in mouth

1316
00:58:52,560 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 9: disease and all of that stuff, and I gotta not

1317
00:58:55,760 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 9: do all this.

1318
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,000
Speaker 10: You know, I shouldn't drink before the show.

1319
00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,520
Speaker 6: No, you're excited.

1320
00:58:59,560 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 11: I get it because and I'm excited. I am very

1321
00:59:02,040 --> 00:59:03,120
Speaker 11: excited for this fight.

1322
00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,120
Speaker 6: Listen, this fight had to happen, right, I mean.

1323
00:59:06,040 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 11: A lot of people are freaking out about you.

1324
00:59:08,320 --> 00:59:10,760
Speaker 6: Know, how can they make this fight happen after what

1325
00:59:10,840 --> 00:59:14,360
Speaker 6: Connor did? I mean, you know the fight was gonna happen,

1326
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:17,040
Speaker 6: and you want to see the fight. I mean, come on, yeah,

1327
00:59:17,240 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 6: Connor screwed up, absolutely, but you still want to see

1328
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,840
Speaker 6: the fight. I want to see the fight. I think

1329
00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:27,880
Speaker 6: this is the fight you have to make happen. You know, listen,

1330
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,680
Speaker 6: you have Habibamaga manov An absolute a Dagistani juggernaut, a

1331
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,240
Speaker 6: guy that when he's focused on taking you down and

1332
00:59:35,320 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 6: beating you up, he can do it, and he can

1333
00:59:38,600 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 6: do it against anybody, I believe, all the way up

1334
00:59:40,600 --> 00:59:44,920
Speaker 6: to one hundred and seventy pounds most likely. And you

1335
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:48,920
Speaker 6: get Connor McGregor, a guy who just might be the

1336
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,800
Speaker 6: only guy at one hundred and fifty five pounds who

1337
00:59:51,840 --> 00:59:55,640
Speaker 6: could expose that striking weakness of Habib Normaga Mena and

1338
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 6: actually make him pay for it. Yeah, okay, So he

1339
00:59:58,800 --> 01:00:01,400
Speaker 6: has the ability to land that shot that you don't see.

1340
01:00:01,400 --> 01:00:03,360
Speaker 11: He has the ability to counter you. He has the

1341
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:04,800
Speaker 11: ability to move off that.

1342
01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:09,200
Speaker 6: Center line and land that fight ending shot unlike anybody

1343
01:00:09,240 --> 01:00:12,680
Speaker 6: in that division. And I don't think that Connor McGregor

1344
01:00:13,080 --> 01:00:16,919
Speaker 6: really is is as appreciated as you think. He's appreciated

1345
01:00:16,960 --> 01:00:20,040
Speaker 6: because of the kind of stuff that he says and

1346
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,440
Speaker 6: the star that he is, but as as far as

1347
01:00:22,480 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 6: his fighting technique, he's just not appreciated mixed martial arts

1348
01:00:26,080 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 6: like he should be.

1349
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:29,520
Speaker 11: He is such a technical striker.

1350
01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 6: You look at you know, you look at what he's done.

1351
01:00:32,120 --> 01:00:35,320
Speaker 6: I mean, people are people forgetting that he just destroyed

1352
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,880
Speaker 6: Josealdo in a mirror, you know, twelve or thirteen seconds.

1353
01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,640
Speaker 6: You know the fact that he beat Max Holloway, the

1354
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 6: fact that you know he came back to beat Nate Diaz.

1355
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 6: Not at one hundred and fifty five pounds, which was

1356
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:50,280
Speaker 6: an option for him, but he said, no, I'm going

1357
01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 6: to rematch you at one hundred and seventy pounds and

1358
01:00:52,520 --> 01:00:55,240
Speaker 6: I'm going to beat you. And he did that against

1359
01:00:55,240 --> 01:00:59,120
Speaker 6: a massive and dangerous style matchup in Nate Diaz. So

1360
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,480
Speaker 6: this is a guy who is very dangerous. Does he

1361
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:05,720
Speaker 6: have something to offer him on the ground. Probably not

1362
01:01:06,240 --> 01:01:09,200
Speaker 6: for Connor. If he gets taken down, he's gonna have

1363
01:01:09,240 --> 01:01:11,919
Speaker 6: to go into survival mode. I mean, I think there's

1364
01:01:11,960 --> 01:01:14,920
Speaker 6: ways to counter Habib. There are few and far between.

1365
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:17,440
Speaker 6: There's certain things you can do, but you better be

1366
01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 6: very high level in elite and the Brazilian Juitsu world.

1367
01:01:21,160 --> 01:01:26,040
Speaker 6: Connor isn't that yet. However, I think he can stop

1368
01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:28,200
Speaker 6: a few takedowns, he can get him tired and he

1369
01:01:28,240 --> 01:01:30,440
Speaker 6: will not stop. We have to go back to that

1370
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:34,200
Speaker 6: Chad Mendez fight where he was getting taken down. He

1371
01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 6: was exhausted, he had a terrible knee injury. He was

1372
01:01:37,640 --> 01:01:40,000
Speaker 6: flying all over the place. One of the most brutal

1373
01:01:40,040 --> 01:01:42,080
Speaker 6: white cuts you can make, cutting down to one hundred

1374
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 6: and forty five pounds, and he went out there and

1375
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:46,200
Speaker 6: got the result by finish.

1376
01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:48,280
Speaker 11: So he's a guy that's very determined.

1377
01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:51,680
Speaker 6: Now he's got about ninety million dollars in his bank account.

1378
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:53,200
Speaker 11: That changes things a little bit.

1379
01:01:53,440 --> 01:01:56,360
Speaker 6: How is his mindset, how is his fighter mindset and

1380
01:01:56,360 --> 01:01:57,160
Speaker 6: fighter focus?

1381
01:01:57,640 --> 01:01:58,080
Speaker 11: I don't know.

1382
01:01:58,160 --> 01:02:00,320
Speaker 6: I still think that for Connor McGregor, he has a

1383
01:02:00,320 --> 01:02:01,960
Speaker 6: lot of fight in him. He has a lot to

1384
01:02:02,360 --> 01:02:07,040
Speaker 6: still prove to himself, and I still think I still

1385
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:09,720
Speaker 6: think he loves this game. So I think he's the

1386
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,959
Speaker 6: only guy who could knock on Habenia Maga mana.

1387
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 9: All right, I want to fire back at you on

1388
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:15,360
Speaker 9: some of that stuff, but we got to go to

1389
01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 9: the guest line now, because joining us is a man

1390
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 9: who will have his eyes on that fight, among others,

1391
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:21,840
Speaker 9: one of the best lightweights in the world himself, a

1392
01:02:21,880 --> 01:02:23,600
Speaker 9: man who is less than three weeks away from his

1393
01:02:23,600 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 9: first UFC main event, about time, by the way, for

1394
01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:30,040
Speaker 9: his first headlining spot. The texecutioner James Vick now joins us.

1395
01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,520
Speaker 9: Live My man, James, how are you, sir?

1396
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:32,880
Speaker 3: What's up?

1397
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:33,160
Speaker 15: Guys?

1398
01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,600
Speaker 3: You're doing great, living a dream.

1399
01:02:35,640 --> 01:02:37,080
Speaker 10: Good to see you this weekend, my man.

1400
01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 9: So, I was sitting in the TV truck during the

1401
01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:42,080
Speaker 9: press conference last Friday, and I got to be honest

1402
01:02:42,120 --> 01:02:44,080
Speaker 9: to a man, the guy who got the most laughs

1403
01:02:44,120 --> 01:02:46,960
Speaker 9: in there, and the biggest reaction was you. I thought,

1404
01:02:47,000 --> 01:02:49,840
Speaker 9: you maximize the showcase and you seem to feel right

1405
01:02:49,880 --> 01:02:51,520
Speaker 9: at home going at justin Gaetgee there.

1406
01:02:51,560 --> 01:02:56,920
Speaker 16: Verbally, my man, yeah, I'm a decent trash talker I

1407
01:02:57,120 --> 01:02:58,720
Speaker 16: like to think, but I'm not gonna act like I

1408
01:02:58,720 --> 01:02:59,400
Speaker 16: did something great.

1409
01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:01,720
Speaker 3: I mean, I really was just being honest. I mean,

1410
01:03:02,600 --> 01:03:04,600
Speaker 3: I mean, the guy is you know, he is a

1411
01:03:04,600 --> 01:03:06,520
Speaker 3: punction dig That's the way he fights. And I really

1412
01:03:06,520 --> 01:03:08,840
Speaker 3: didn't try to hype it up an he's different. That's

1413
01:03:08,880 --> 01:03:11,280
Speaker 3: really how I feel about the guy. But it did

1414
01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:12,800
Speaker 3: happen to turn out to be a little funny, which

1415
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:13,320
Speaker 3: you know, I'm.

1416
01:03:13,160 --> 01:03:13,720
Speaker 15: Glad it was.

1417
01:03:14,160 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 3: But I really do feel that way about to gether.

1418
01:03:17,280 --> 01:03:20,160
Speaker 9: So I said earlier that I think there's a comparison

1419
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:21,560
Speaker 9: to be drawn between you and TJ.

1420
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:22,240
Speaker 10: Dillashaw.

1421
01:03:22,520 --> 01:03:25,200
Speaker 9: Just how happy you look getting ready to fight another

1422
01:03:25,280 --> 01:03:28,160
Speaker 9: man in the cage right when Bruce Buffer's announcing your

1423
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,320
Speaker 9: name you and TJ very similarly. You're smiling like you

1424
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,960
Speaker 9: just can't fucking wait. And a lot of fighters can't

1425
01:03:33,960 --> 01:03:37,160
Speaker 9: relate to that emotion, Like George Saint Pierre hates fight night,

1426
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:38,560
Speaker 9: you really seem to love it.

1427
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 3: Oh, I, like Dillashall said, you know, I love this shit.

1428
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:45,240
Speaker 3: I really do love this shit. I live and breathe

1429
01:03:45,280 --> 01:03:48,240
Speaker 3: this shit. I never you know coming up. You know,

1430
01:03:48,280 --> 01:03:51,560
Speaker 3: I quit school, I quit college. You know, I didn't

1431
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 3: have a plan being. I never wanted to plan be

1432
01:03:53,320 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 3: you know, I love being a fighter. This is the

1433
01:03:55,160 --> 01:03:56,880
Speaker 3: way I wait to wake up doing every day. And

1434
01:03:56,880 --> 01:03:58,640
Speaker 3: it's it is kind of crazy to me to see

1435
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 3: someone you know or to hear someone you know, like

1436
01:04:00,600 --> 01:04:03,640
Speaker 3: George Saint pires as great as he's been, one of

1437
01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:05,919
Speaker 3: the greatest ever of all time, because I've always looked

1438
01:04:05,960 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 3: at people in the back and when I when I

1439
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 3: saw them nervous and scared, I was like, what the

1440
01:04:09,400 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 3: fuck is wrong with this guy? That's what I was thinking,

1441
01:04:11,480 --> 01:04:13,240
Speaker 3: Like I would always think that. I mean, it's crazy,

1442
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:15,080
Speaker 3: it's crazy to see I guess, you know, different different

1443
01:04:15,080 --> 01:04:17,240
Speaker 3: strokes for different folks, you know, but it is crazy

1444
01:04:17,240 --> 01:04:20,040
Speaker 3: to see that because like I'm like a dog, caged

1445
01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:23,240
Speaker 3: animal back there, barking, like going crazy, ready to come out,

1446
01:04:23,280 --> 01:04:25,400
Speaker 3: ready to walk out. I mean, I love this shit,

1447
01:04:25,480 --> 01:04:27,480
Speaker 3: and to see other people, I'm like, man, what the

1448
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:29,240
Speaker 3: fuck is wrong with this dude? You know he's act

1449
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 3: consult you know, that's what I was thinking my mind.

1450
01:04:31,360 --> 01:04:33,480
Speaker 3: But I you know, I'm now, I'm older. I understand

1451
01:04:33,520 --> 01:04:35,520
Speaker 3: you know that, you know people handle stuff differently. But

1452
01:04:36,000 --> 01:04:38,520
Speaker 3: for sure, I love this. There's nothing else I want

1453
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:40,840
Speaker 3: to do. What be a fighter. I'm living my dream job.

1454
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 6: So James, obviously this is a huge fight for you

1455
01:04:45,600 --> 01:04:47,440
Speaker 6: against Gae Chee, who is a big.

1456
01:04:47,280 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 11: Time fan favorite. But what's the approach against Gaythee? Where

1457
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:52,560
Speaker 11: is he vulnerable?

1458
01:04:52,560 --> 01:04:55,080
Speaker 6: And how do you beat this guy?

1459
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,600
Speaker 3: I mean, my approach is the same against him as

1460
01:04:58,640 --> 01:05:01,000
Speaker 3: it is anybody. I'm not fighting him, He's fighting me.

1461
01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:03,640
Speaker 3: That's how That's how I always think. I don't. I mean,

1462
01:05:03,640 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 3: I'm aware of what he's gonna do, and I've practiced

1463
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,800
Speaker 3: those things. I've addressed his legs and practice I've I've

1464
01:05:09,800 --> 01:05:14,160
Speaker 3: been doing these things. But in my mind, I'm not

1465
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:16,120
Speaker 3: fighting him. He's fighting me, So I really won't give

1466
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 3: a fuck what he's gonna do. You know what I'm saying.

1467
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,480
Speaker 3: I'm gonna go in there. I'm gonna be me, and

1468
01:05:19,600 --> 01:05:21,080
Speaker 3: I'm gonna win. I feel like I can win this

1469
01:05:21,120 --> 01:05:22,600
Speaker 3: fight any way. I want to win this fight. And

1470
01:05:23,480 --> 01:05:25,120
Speaker 3: I'm not saying he's not a good opponent. I'm not

1471
01:05:25,120 --> 01:05:27,440
Speaker 3: saying he's not He's not a top fighter. He's a

1472
01:05:27,440 --> 01:05:29,920
Speaker 3: top fighter. I don't necessarily know he's a top ten fighter,

1473
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,040
Speaker 3: but he is a top fighter, and he has world

1474
01:05:32,040 --> 01:05:33,880
Speaker 3: class heart, and he's a dog and he will fight.

1475
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:36,480
Speaker 3: But I feel like I have all those same attributes

1476
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:39,120
Speaker 3: but skilled. And I think you guys are going to

1477
01:05:39,160 --> 01:05:42,680
Speaker 3: see that if it comes down to us we're in

1478
01:05:42,720 --> 01:05:45,240
Speaker 3: the deeper rounds and me having to bite down on

1479
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:46,880
Speaker 3: that mouthpiece and me having to stand in front of

1480
01:05:46,880 --> 01:05:48,520
Speaker 3: that guy and fight, You're gonna see who the real

1481
01:05:48,560 --> 01:05:50,680
Speaker 3: dog is. You know, I, in my mind, I have

1482
01:05:50,760 --> 01:05:52,200
Speaker 3: more heart than he's got. I just don't have to

1483
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:54,200
Speaker 3: fight like that. But when it comes to to me

1484
01:05:54,960 --> 01:05:57,760
Speaker 3: bite down on my mouthpiece and if I'm down on

1485
01:05:57,800 --> 01:05:59,520
Speaker 3: the cards or whatever, and that's what has to be done,

1486
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:01,880
Speaker 3: then you're to see what gets done. I'm gonna bite

1487
01:06:01,920 --> 01:06:03,760
Speaker 3: down that that mouthpiece and and I'm gonna break him.

1488
01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:05,000
Speaker 3: He's gonna be the one breaking.

1489
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:05,040
Speaker 12: Not me.

1490
01:06:06,520 --> 01:06:09,400
Speaker 6: Do you see him changing his colors? Do you see

1491
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:11,560
Speaker 6: him taking a different approach against you in this way?

1492
01:06:13,040 --> 01:06:15,360
Speaker 3: I just think, I mean, I'm really not trying to

1493
01:06:15,400 --> 01:06:17,160
Speaker 3: sound you know, conceited or whatever. I just think this

1494
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,040
Speaker 3: is a I'm a bad matchup for him. I don't

1495
01:06:19,120 --> 01:06:23,080
Speaker 3: understand what he could do to change. Everyone says says, oh, well,

1496
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:25,640
Speaker 3: well he's going what if he tries to wrestle? Well

1497
01:06:25,640 --> 01:06:27,760
Speaker 3: what if he does? I mean, what, honestly, god, what

1498
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,440
Speaker 3: can he do to me? If he tries to wrestling,

1499
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,800
Speaker 3: that's probably gonna gass him out twice as bad as

1500
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:35,920
Speaker 3: if he don't wrestle, And there what's the endpoint of

1501
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:38,040
Speaker 3: him doing it. No one's ever been able to do

1502
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 3: anything to me on the ground. I've never been hurt

1503
01:06:39,720 --> 01:06:41,360
Speaker 3: on the ground. I've never really been hit much on

1504
01:06:41,400 --> 01:06:43,440
Speaker 3: the ground. If he takes me down, I'm gonna get

1505
01:06:43,480 --> 01:06:45,000
Speaker 3: up in five or ten seconds, or he may get

1506
01:06:45,000 --> 01:06:46,120
Speaker 3: his net caught and get submitted.

1507
01:06:46,720 --> 01:06:47,080
Speaker 5: The dude.

1508
01:06:47,320 --> 01:06:49,640
Speaker 3: In my mind, realistically, I've been it's just for for

1509
01:06:49,720 --> 01:06:52,040
Speaker 3: ten years. This guy, I don't even think he could

1510
01:06:52,040 --> 01:06:53,440
Speaker 3: pass my guard. To be honest, with you, and I

1511
01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,240
Speaker 3: trained one of the best jujitu schools in the world

1512
01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:58,040
Speaker 3: against world champions. We had two black belt world champions

1513
01:06:58,040 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 3: this year. I've trained with these people, you know, these

1514
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:03,160
Speaker 3: high level guys, So I don't I don't really If

1515
01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:07,520
Speaker 3: he did change his game up to wrestle, that would

1516
01:07:07,520 --> 01:07:08,920
Speaker 3: be the only thing he really could do. He's not

1517
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,720
Speaker 3: going to stay on the outside and win a point battle,

1518
01:07:11,240 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 3: so he would have to try to wrestle something. But

1519
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 3: I really don't know what his endpoint would be to

1520
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,320
Speaker 3: that because I don't really feel like there's anything he

1521
01:07:17,360 --> 01:07:18,840
Speaker 3: could do to me on the ground except gas his

1522
01:07:18,880 --> 01:07:20,560
Speaker 3: own self out trying to get me there.

1523
01:07:21,160 --> 01:07:21,360
Speaker 5: Right.

1524
01:07:21,800 --> 01:07:23,920
Speaker 9: UFC lightweight contender James Vick with us here on the

1525
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:27,160
Speaker 9: Anak and Florian podcast. So, in terms of your approach,

1526
01:07:27,200 --> 01:07:29,520
Speaker 9: maybe not much changes. But in terms of the training

1527
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:33,640
Speaker 9: for five rounds potentially versus three, does it change your

1528
01:07:33,720 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 9: day to day preparation.

1529
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:37,400
Speaker 15: A little bit, not a lot?

1530
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,479
Speaker 3: You know, I just and I was already in shape

1531
01:07:40,480 --> 01:07:42,120
Speaker 3: when I took this fight. You know, I was two fights,

1532
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:44,400
Speaker 3: two weeks away from fighting Phil, So I basically did

1533
01:07:44,400 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 3: two camps back to back. I've been I was ready

1534
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 3: to fight July fourteenth, you know, And I always train

1535
01:07:51,880 --> 01:07:54,880
Speaker 3: and spar and do more than a three round fight.

1536
01:07:55,600 --> 01:07:58,040
Speaker 3: You know, I always for five or six rounds, even

1537
01:07:58,080 --> 01:08:00,240
Speaker 3: when I'm only fighting threes. So I've been I've been

1538
01:08:00,320 --> 01:08:02,120
Speaker 3: up into a little bit. I've been scoring eight five

1539
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:04,040
Speaker 3: minute rounds straight. Is that what I've been doing in

1540
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:06,760
Speaker 3: sporing sessions. And I'm throwing fresh guys in. You know,

1541
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 3: you really a lot of it be giving me me

1542
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 3: getting beat up. You know, when you have a fresh

1543
01:08:10,560 --> 01:08:12,960
Speaker 3: guy coming in, y'all know this. You know you have

1544
01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:14,760
Speaker 3: a fresh guy coming in, You're the one taking to

1545
01:08:14,840 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 3: the beatings in practice, you know, with fresh dudes coming

1546
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,800
Speaker 3: in every round or every minute, even sometimes in the

1547
01:08:19,880 --> 01:08:21,680
Speaker 3: last couple of rounds. My coach will even throw a

1548
01:08:21,680 --> 01:08:23,800
Speaker 3: fresh guy in every minute, you know. So it's it's

1549
01:08:23,840 --> 01:08:25,360
Speaker 3: designed for you. It's not designed for you to win.

1550
01:08:25,360 --> 01:08:26,599
Speaker 3: It's designed for you to not break.

1551
01:08:26,760 --> 01:08:26,920
Speaker 6: You know.

1552
01:08:26,960 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 3: I'm fully aware of what gates he has. He has

1553
01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:33,080
Speaker 3: a strong wheel, He is a warrior, and we may

1554
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:34,560
Speaker 3: get to that point. I don't think we're going to

1555
01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:36,240
Speaker 3: get that point because I think my skill set as

1556
01:08:36,280 --> 01:08:39,040
Speaker 3: we higher. But I'm preparing for everything, and I'm in

1557
01:08:39,080 --> 01:08:41,200
Speaker 3: phenomenal shape, and I'm just doing what I always do,

1558
01:08:41,320 --> 01:08:42,639
Speaker 3: just adding a little bit more to it.

1559
01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:46,200
Speaker 9: A couple more things here with James vic In terms

1560
01:08:46,240 --> 01:08:49,080
Speaker 9: of your son, James Junior, I know you brought him

1561
01:08:49,120 --> 01:08:52,679
Speaker 9: to the Maryland, DC area for training camp. How old

1562
01:08:52,760 --> 01:08:55,360
Speaker 9: is he and how have you sort of navigated that

1563
01:08:55,439 --> 01:08:56,679
Speaker 9: new dynamic in your life?

1564
01:08:56,680 --> 01:08:56,920
Speaker 14: Man?

1565
01:08:58,040 --> 01:08:59,960
Speaker 3: Well, actually I didn't bring him for the whole camp.

1566
01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:02,880
Speaker 3: Last camp, him and my girl came up for about

1567
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:06,080
Speaker 3: ten days and then he's actually here right now. I'm uh,

1568
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,240
Speaker 3: they're here for about eight, eight or nine days. So

1569
01:09:08,280 --> 01:09:10,680
Speaker 3: they come, they come up and then actually after I

1570
01:09:10,880 --> 01:09:13,400
Speaker 3: got the got the gay tee fight and switched the opponent,

1571
01:09:13,439 --> 01:09:14,639
Speaker 3: I went home for about a week and a half

1572
01:09:14,680 --> 01:09:18,760
Speaker 3: as well. So, uh, it's it really doesn't change a

1573
01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:20,799
Speaker 3: lot for me. I mean my girl, it's it's drastically

1574
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:23,320
Speaker 3: change for her, of course, but for for me. You know,

1575
01:09:23,680 --> 01:09:26,000
Speaker 3: she you know, she's staying at home and I don't

1576
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:27,240
Speaker 3: really have to get up in the middle of the night.

1577
01:09:27,360 --> 01:09:29,920
Speaker 3: She's you know, she breastfeeds, so I can't really you know,

1578
01:09:29,960 --> 01:09:30,439
Speaker 3: help with that.

1579
01:09:31,120 --> 01:09:31,240
Speaker 15: Right.

1580
01:09:31,680 --> 01:09:34,479
Speaker 3: So he's he's about to be four months in the

1581
01:09:34,560 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 3: next couple of days and he's growing really fast and

1582
01:09:37,040 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 3: I really do love being a dad.

1583
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,639
Speaker 15: It's a great experience.

1584
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:43,240
Speaker 10: Yeah, no nighttime feedings for James. Vicky's in training camp.

1585
01:09:43,320 --> 01:09:45,320
Speaker 10: That's right. See, you didn't marry the wrong woman. I'm

1586
01:09:45,320 --> 01:09:45,640
Speaker 10: telling you.

1587
01:09:45,640 --> 01:09:48,439
Speaker 9: If you, if you are a professional mixed martial arts

1588
01:09:48,439 --> 01:09:51,920
Speaker 9: fighter and you're doing night time feedings during those eight

1589
01:09:51,960 --> 01:09:54,080
Speaker 9: weeks or whatever weeks leading up to a fight, you

1590
01:09:54,200 --> 01:09:55,000
Speaker 9: married the wrong woman.

1591
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,559
Speaker 10: I love you, but you married the wrong woman for.

1592
01:09:59,040 --> 01:09:59,519
Speaker 3: Doing that.

1593
01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,160
Speaker 9: All right, last thing, so I'm happy to let our

1594
01:10:03,200 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 9: listeners know by popular demand going forward, what we're going

1595
01:10:06,160 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 9: to try to do here on the Anakin Floran Podcast

1596
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,360
Speaker 9: in advance of all UFC pay per views, So twelve

1597
01:10:10,400 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 9: times a year, James is going to come on the

1598
01:10:12,439 --> 01:10:16,160
Speaker 9: show give out a free player two exclusively to our listeners.

1599
01:10:16,479 --> 01:10:19,720
Speaker 9: Vis pick's going to debut the week of Monday, September

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01:10:19,760 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 9: third before UFC two twenty eight, and you can find

1601
01:10:23,200 --> 01:10:24,920
Speaker 9: James on Twitter and all that good stuff if you

1602
01:10:24,960 --> 01:10:26,840
Speaker 9: want to follow his picks. But we're going to be

1603
01:10:26,880 --> 01:10:30,240
Speaker 9: doing that. You also trademarked a phrase. Man, what's the phrase?

1604
01:10:30,240 --> 01:10:31,439
Speaker 9: And how'd you get that? TM?

1605
01:10:31,520 --> 01:10:32,000
Speaker 10: So quick?

1606
01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:36,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've been saying this phrase for years. I heard

1607
01:10:36,200 --> 01:10:38,640
Speaker 3: it a long time ago. I always say run up

1608
01:10:38,640 --> 01:10:40,800
Speaker 3: and get done up, especially you know I'm talking, you

1609
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 3: know about fighting, We'll run up and get done and

1610
01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:45,200
Speaker 3: I'll usually say run up and get done up, motherfucker.

1611
01:10:45,240 --> 01:10:48,240
Speaker 3: But I didn't have that the trademarking, but run up.

1612
01:10:48,160 --> 01:10:48,680
Speaker 16: And get done up.

1613
01:10:48,680 --> 01:10:50,760
Speaker 3: And my coach was like, you know, he's, dude, you

1614
01:10:50,760 --> 01:10:52,400
Speaker 3: should get that trademarked. And he said, I have a

1615
01:10:52,400 --> 01:10:54,679
Speaker 3: trademark attorney. He put me in touch with the lady

1616
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,200
Speaker 3: and we went back and forth through email, and she

1617
01:10:57,360 --> 01:10:59,080
Speaker 3: courted me the price of what we have to do

1618
01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 3: to get a trademarked, and I went and got it.

1619
01:11:01,040 --> 01:11:03,439
Speaker 3: I went and got it done, and I'm, uh so

1620
01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:07,720
Speaker 3: it's it's it's not fully finished, but everything's been sent off,

1621
01:11:07,760 --> 01:11:09,560
Speaker 3: so I should get everything back within a couple of

1622
01:11:09,600 --> 01:11:12,000
Speaker 3: months and it's one hundred percent done. Deal. She just

1623
01:11:12,040 --> 01:11:14,960
Speaker 3: told me anytime that I uh wear a T shirt,

1624
01:11:15,120 --> 01:11:16,519
Speaker 3: say it or anything, I need to put the team

1625
01:11:16,640 --> 01:11:20,639
Speaker 3: beside it. And uh it's you know, it's I think

1626
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:22,320
Speaker 3: it's going to be good for me long term, because

1627
01:11:22,320 --> 01:11:23,719
Speaker 3: first of all, I'm going to be a world champion.

1628
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:25,960
Speaker 3: So then I'll be able to sell a lot of

1629
01:11:25,960 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 3: products with that. But also, I'm a big I'm a

1630
01:11:28,280 --> 01:11:30,400
Speaker 3: big gun guy, you know, rifles, and I'm you know,

1631
01:11:30,479 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 3: I'm uh, I'm not big into pistols and handguns, but

1632
01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:36,479
Speaker 3: but I do shoot them, uh. And you know, I'm

1633
01:11:36,479 --> 01:11:38,760
Speaker 3: getting bigger into that even more. And I'm a big

1634
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:40,880
Speaker 3: hunter and a gun guy, and I have I have

1635
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 3: that thing written on the side of one of my guns.

1636
01:11:42,479 --> 01:11:44,400
Speaker 3: And I felt like I could make my own brand

1637
01:11:44,439 --> 01:11:47,559
Speaker 3: of of of rifles or pistols and stuff that say that,

1638
01:11:47,640 --> 01:11:49,240
Speaker 3: and they could really sell. You know, if you you

1639
01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:50,400
Speaker 3: had to run up and get done up on the

1640
01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:51,800
Speaker 3: side of a pistol. I think that that could be

1641
01:11:51,800 --> 01:11:52,320
Speaker 3: a good sell.

1642
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:53,760
Speaker 10: Yep, yep.

1643
01:11:54,040 --> 01:11:55,400
Speaker 9: That might get me to buy a gun for the

1644
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:59,120
Speaker 9: first time in my life.

1645
01:12:00,600 --> 01:12:01,960
Speaker 10: What's that, James, I.

1646
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:03,680
Speaker 3: Said, We'll get you the first edition, John, you get

1647
01:12:03,680 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 3: the first.

1648
01:12:07,479 --> 01:12:09,679
Speaker 9: Well, you know, Ken Flow and I have been longtime

1649
01:12:09,720 --> 01:12:12,559
Speaker 9: believers man dating to the Ultimate Fighters Live season back

1650
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 9: in twenty twelve. James Vick in a main event against

1651
01:12:16,000 --> 01:12:18,680
Speaker 9: Justin Gai Chee Saturday, August twenty fifth, first time for

1652
01:12:18,720 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 9: the UFC and Lincoln, Nebraska. You can see it on

1653
01:12:21,000 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 9: FS one. James, thanks for the time, my man. We

1654
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:24,880
Speaker 9: look forward to the fight and look forward to talking

1655
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,599
Speaker 9: to you next month for the first vix picks here

1656
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:27,160
Speaker 9: on the show Man.

1657
01:12:27,200 --> 01:12:30,320
Speaker 3: Thank you, Thank you guys so much always. I appreciate

1658
01:12:30,320 --> 01:12:34,879
Speaker 3: the support everyone. Go follow me on social media Twitter, Instagram, Facebook,

1659
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,479
Speaker 3: James Vick MMA, Thank you.

1660
01:12:36,439 --> 01:12:40,599
Speaker 9: Guys, James vic MMA. Run up and get done up,

1661
01:12:40,680 --> 01:12:43,360
Speaker 9: Ken Flow. I'm telling you. I mean I was at Lincoln,

1662
01:12:43,360 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 9: Nebraska and Justin Gaichie ran up and got knocked out

1663
01:12:46,560 --> 01:12:48,439
Speaker 9: by James Vick. As the play by play announcer, I

1664
01:12:48,439 --> 01:12:51,840
Speaker 9: would have no choice but to say, run up and

1665
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,439
Speaker 9: get done up, gate che. I mean, I sound like

1666
01:12:53,439 --> 01:12:57,000
Speaker 9: a fucking dork, but done up, you get done.

1667
01:12:57,120 --> 01:12:59,479
Speaker 6: He's a businessman as well.

1668
01:12:59,479 --> 01:13:00,519
Speaker 11: I like it, smart man.

1669
01:13:00,760 --> 01:13:03,360
Speaker 9: I saw him at the backstage at the press conference

1670
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:05,040
Speaker 9: wearing a T shirt that said run up and get

1671
01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:06,960
Speaker 9: done up with a little TM, and I was like,

1672
01:13:07,000 --> 01:13:07,360
Speaker 9: what's that.

1673
01:13:07,479 --> 01:13:09,000
Speaker 10: He's like, Oh, that's that's mine.

1674
01:13:09,200 --> 01:13:12,960
Speaker 9: You know, it's interesting when you hear him because training

1675
01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:13,960
Speaker 9: breeds confidence.

1676
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:14,679
Speaker 10: Kenny right.

1677
01:13:14,760 --> 01:13:17,360
Speaker 9: I mean, I know you probably have a lot of

1678
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:20,160
Speaker 9: respect for what he's accomplished inside the octagon, but I

1679
01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 9: think part of the reason, among many why he really

1680
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:26,320
Speaker 9: doesn't have the nerves is because he is another guy

1681
01:13:26,360 --> 01:13:28,600
Speaker 9: who's been around the block, right, who has traveled to

1682
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,120
Speaker 9: get better training in places like Thailand and otherwise, and

1683
01:13:31,160 --> 01:13:33,400
Speaker 9: he really feels like he's the best fifty five in

1684
01:13:33,400 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 9: the world when he walks in there.

1685
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:36,599
Speaker 11: He's a very confident guy.

1686
01:13:37,439 --> 01:13:42,040
Speaker 6: And you know, one thing that Lloyd Arvin you know, preaches,

1687
01:13:42,479 --> 01:13:45,200
Speaker 6: you know, to his guys, is that mental confidence, believing

1688
01:13:45,200 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 6: in yourself, having that faith in what you're doing. And

1689
01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:51,400
Speaker 6: James Fix certainly has that and he's done great things

1690
01:13:51,439 --> 01:13:51,920
Speaker 6: because of it.

1691
01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:55,040
Speaker 9: I hate asking about him about the weight, so I

1692
01:13:55,080 --> 01:13:57,799
Speaker 9: didn't do it right because he's six'. Three everyone, asks,

1693
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,640
Speaker 9: oh you, know how's the, weight and he cuts a

1694
01:14:00,640 --> 01:14:02,400
Speaker 9: lot of. Weight there's no doubt about, it you. KNOW

1695
01:14:02,479 --> 01:14:04,320
Speaker 9: i think he's another guy who could take a short

1696
01:14:04,360 --> 01:14:06,600
Speaker 9: notice opportunity at welterweight but couldn't do it at one

1697
01:14:06,680 --> 01:14:09,200
Speaker 9: hundred and fifty five. POUNDS i think the only concern

1698
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:11,439
Speaker 9: would be that by the time he gets a title,

1699
01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:13,400
Speaker 9: FIGHT i think he's nine and one in THE ufc

1700
01:14:13,600 --> 01:14:16,040
Speaker 9: or something like. That by the time he finally gets

1701
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,160
Speaker 9: a championship, fight maybe a little bit, older the weight

1702
01:14:18,200 --> 01:14:21,240
Speaker 9: cut will be more, difficult but training for a five round,

1703
01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:23,200
Speaker 9: fight as he, said back to back training camps because

1704
01:14:23,200 --> 01:14:26,120
Speaker 9: The felder fight went, Away so we'll see how it.

1705
01:14:26,120 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 9: Goes For James, vick who might even be the betting

1706
01:14:28,479 --> 01:14:31,639
Speaker 9: favorite Against Justin gaigie is pretty, CLOSE i think, early

1707
01:14:32,479 --> 01:14:35,280
Speaker 9: but you'd Expect, gaichie given the name, recognition to probably

1708
01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:39,000
Speaker 9: open as the. Favorite but Even James vick's action alone

1709
01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:42,160
Speaker 9: will probably push that betting. Number this guy is as

1710
01:14:42,200 --> 01:14:44,080
Speaker 9: heavy an mma better as we have on the, roster

1711
01:14:44,160 --> 01:14:45,320
Speaker 9: and by the, way he bet On.

1712
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 10: Henry sahuto over the, Weekend so there's.

1713
01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,320
Speaker 9: THAT a couple more things On connor And khabib before

1714
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:52,960
Speaker 9: we get, there, though whatever your hair means to, you

1715
01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,839
Speaker 9: it's worth fighting. For it's been decades really since anyone

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01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,960
Speaker 9: has made meaningful advancements in the hair health, industry but

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Speaker 9: a new world of science has just changed the way

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Speaker 9: we think about hair and its relationship to our overall. Health,

1719
01:15:04,560 --> 01:15:06,920
Speaker 9: see it's not just genetics that have it out for your.

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Speaker 9: Hair stressed diet environmental toxins have also been discovered to

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1739
01:16:13,000 --> 01:16:14,599
Speaker 9: McGregor coming back at plus one.

1740
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:16,400
Speaker 10: Sixty that is the opening.

1741
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 9: ODD i believe that if you want to bet On connor,

1742
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:22,479
Speaker 9: McGregor you should do so now BECAUSE i think there

1743
01:16:22,479 --> 01:16:25,559
Speaker 9: are a lot of, Betters European irish, betters public betters

1744
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:27,800
Speaker 9: that are gonna see a plus number number next To

1745
01:16:27,800 --> 01:16:31,559
Speaker 9: connor McGregor's name and they're gonna blindly fire. Uh AND

1746
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:32,800
Speaker 9: i think there are a lot of people who bet On

1747
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:35,680
Speaker 9: connor McGregor almost at whatever price. RIGHT i also think

1748
01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:37,960
Speaker 9: if you're gonna bet On abeenmongo metav you're wise to

1749
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,000
Speaker 9: wait BECAUSE i think you're gonna do better than minus

1750
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,120
Speaker 9: two hundred at some point in.

1751
01:16:41,160 --> 01:16:43,240
Speaker 10: Time i'm not gonna make you make.

1752
01:16:43,120 --> 01:16:45,840
Speaker 9: A pick here sixty two days out from this mega

1753
01:16:45,880 --> 01:16:48,240
Speaker 9: fight can. Flow BUT i believe when we get to

1754
01:16:48,360 --> 01:16:51,240
Speaker 9: our show the first week Of october that you're gonna

1755
01:16:51,240 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 9: pick the precision Of connor McGregor over the power and

1756
01:16:56,040 --> 01:16:58,720
Speaker 9: the dominant nature Of Hubebmongo. MATAP i think when we

1757
01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,479
Speaker 9: get there that you're gonna and on the McGregor, side

1758
01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:02,479
Speaker 9: forced to.

1759
01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:08,160
Speaker 10: Lean for our listeners, today do you have a? Leak you?

1760
01:17:08,200 --> 01:17:09,400
Speaker 11: KNOW i just, MIGHT i.

1761
01:17:09,640 --> 01:17:15,519
Speaker 6: COULD i don't have a choice that you. KNOW i

1762
01:17:15,800 --> 01:17:17,640
Speaker 6: want to spit out right, now.

1763
01:17:17,520 --> 01:17:19,320
Speaker 10: Okay BUT i will say.

1764
01:17:19,320 --> 01:17:23,040
Speaker 6: THIS i will say This hbib's approach is a much safer.

1765
01:17:23,080 --> 01:17:25,000
Speaker 6: Approach and that's what there's a reason why this guy

1766
01:17:25,080 --> 01:17:26,759
Speaker 6: is he twenty? Six and oh is that the? Numbers,

1767
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 6: yep twenty Six and there's a reason why this guy's

1768
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:31,280
Speaker 6: twenty six and, oh you don't get twenty six and,

1769
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 6: oh you don't get.

1770
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:36,280
Speaker 11: That record by just going out there and. Striking that's

1771
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:37,360
Speaker 11: a very difficult thing to.

1772
01:17:37,400 --> 01:17:39,920
Speaker 6: Do but if you if you largely come behind a

1773
01:17:39,960 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 6: grappling game plan with tremendous wrestling, skills excellent, control know

1774
01:17:45,640 --> 01:17:49,479
Speaker 6: how to really take guys out of their game and

1775
01:17:49,800 --> 01:17:52,400
Speaker 6: really nullify the guard like he, does you can you

1776
01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 6: can get to twenty six and oh and not take

1777
01:17:54,240 --> 01:17:56,920
Speaker 6: a lot of damage doing. It so he does have

1778
01:17:56,960 --> 01:18:00,320
Speaker 6: a great chint as a. Backup if he does get,

1779
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:02,920
Speaker 6: hit he can take a shot and keep. Coming but,

1780
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:05,519
Speaker 6: again if there's one guy who could put his lights,

1781
01:18:05,520 --> 01:18:06,960
Speaker 6: out because that's what you're gonna have to do if

1782
01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 6: you fight him beating the ruga, madoff you're gonna.

1783
01:18:08,760 --> 01:18:10,640
Speaker 11: Have to put him to sleep with your fist or

1784
01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,880
Speaker 11: with your shin or your, elbow whatever it.

1785
01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:16,439
Speaker 6: Is connor McGregor is that, guy and that's what makes

1786
01:18:16,439 --> 01:18:19,200
Speaker 6: this fight so. Fascinating you add in the layers the

1787
01:18:19,200 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 6: fact that these, guys you, know you know What connor

1788
01:18:21,880 --> 01:18:23,720
Speaker 6: did In New, york the fact that you don't like

1789
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:27,880
Speaker 6: each other beebe and you know his his little beef

1790
01:18:27,920 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 6: that he has With art And. Loboff connor McGregor's close.

1791
01:18:30,320 --> 01:18:34,799
Speaker 6: Friend and this, is like you, said perhaps the biggest

1792
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 6: fight IN ufc.

1793
01:18:35,479 --> 01:18:38,040
Speaker 9: History and we will probably spend at least two minutes

1794
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:41,240
Speaker 9: on it every show from now Until. October BUT ufc

1795
01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:43,160
Speaker 9: two twenty seven the big news this week and now

1796
01:18:43,200 --> 01:18:44,559
Speaker 9: with us on the guest line and made it probably

1797
01:18:44,560 --> 01:18:48,000
Speaker 9: hasn't stopped smiling Since saturday. Night decorated wrestler in his own,

1798
01:18:48,080 --> 01:18:51,360
Speaker 9: right seven Time Armed Forces, champion FORMER PanAm, champ three

1799
01:18:51,400 --> 01:18:54,040
Speaker 9: time national, champion and one of the most OUTSTANDING mma

1800
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:56,120
Speaker 9: coaches in the world who this past weekend helped the

1801
01:18:56,160 --> 01:19:00,160
Speaker 9: Great Henry shudo realize A ufc. Championship the cap Did

1802
01:19:00,400 --> 01:19:03,200
Speaker 9: eric albout a scene is with. Us, Eric, congrats my,

1803
01:19:03,240 --> 01:19:03,880
Speaker 9: man how are you this?

1804
01:19:03,960 --> 01:19:08,439
Speaker 15: Morning i'm On Cloud. Maine thank. You Thanks John mannix

1805
01:19:08,520 --> 01:19:08,960
Speaker 15: for having.

1806
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:10,960
Speaker 10: Me it's a pleasure, Man and it's.

1807
01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:15,439
Speaker 9: Overdue i'm excited for, you, guys genuinely in my, Core

1808
01:19:15,760 --> 01:19:18,160
Speaker 9: i'm excited for. You what have the last forty eight

1809
01:19:18,200 --> 01:19:20,840
Speaker 9: hours been like after your guy broke through and won

1810
01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:21,839
Speaker 9: THAT Ufc flyway.

1811
01:19:21,880 --> 01:19:28,000
Speaker 15: Title, wow it's been a world. Man no, sleep eating

1812
01:19:28,080 --> 01:19:30,519
Speaker 15: a little bit of junk. Food we're actually In Beverly

1813
01:19:30,600 --> 01:19:35,759
Speaker 15: hills right. Now we stayed at The. Peninsula henry's, Mentor

1814
01:19:35,880 --> 01:19:39,040
Speaker 15: dave Zone, wine got us a place here and we'll

1815
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:43,200
Speaker 15: probably be heading back To, arizona but mostly mostly a

1816
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,479
Speaker 15: lot of, media social media and just reveling in the,

1817
01:19:47,520 --> 01:19:48,720
Speaker 15: moment cherishing this.

1818
01:19:48,880 --> 01:19:52,400
Speaker 9: Memory, WELL i know when you're, underslept it's basically like being.

1819
01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:54,320
Speaker 10: Drunk so we're not going to keep you too long,

1820
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:54,760
Speaker 10: today my.

1821
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:57,120
Speaker 9: Man but as far as the fight was, concerned and

1822
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,880
Speaker 9: then we'll get to all the big picture stuff For

1823
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:02,280
Speaker 9: henry and with your career. Here close, fight but all

1824
01:20:02,320 --> 01:20:04,639
Speaker 9: of us at the broadcast, table for whatever that's, worth

1825
01:20:04,680 --> 01:20:06,720
Speaker 9: Thought henry did enough to win this fight three.

1826
01:20:06,760 --> 01:20:09,160
Speaker 10: Too what was your mindset when this fight went to the?

1827
01:20:09,200 --> 01:20:13,639
Speaker 15: Cards and you know, What i've been in fights WHERE

1828
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:17,000
Speaker 15: i thought my fighters have won and then they get.

1829
01:20:17,120 --> 01:20:19,840
Speaker 15: Robbed SO i didn't, know you, KNOW i thought he did,

1830
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:24,120
Speaker 15: enough BUT i wasn't sure what each individual individual coach was.

1831
01:20:24,160 --> 01:20:26,479
Speaker 15: Thinking so it was LIKE i felt LIKE i was

1832
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:29,040
Speaker 15: winning the lottery waiting for that last number to be.

1833
01:20:29,160 --> 01:20:33,680
Speaker 15: Called yeah, right and we just went. Wild so it

1834
01:20:33,720 --> 01:20:34,360
Speaker 15: was definitely.

1835
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:39,439
Speaker 6: Close uh did you, guys, Basically, eric how you? Doing?

1836
01:20:39,479 --> 01:20:42,599
Speaker 6: Man first of, all congratulations you've been With henry for

1837
01:20:42,640 --> 01:20:43,160
Speaker 6: such a long.

1838
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:44,719
Speaker 11: Time, man it must have been an amazing.

1839
01:20:44,760 --> 01:20:47,880
Speaker 6: Feeling but do you feel like you guys did what

1840
01:20:47,920 --> 01:20:50,800
Speaker 6: you wanted to do in training in preparation for this

1841
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:53,320
Speaker 6: fight Against demetrius or were the things that were kind

1842
01:20:53,320 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 6: of left on the. Table.

1843
01:20:56,360 --> 01:20:59,160
Speaker 15: No we turned over every. Film we went To, brazil

1844
01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,639
Speaker 15: we went to how we went To, singapore we got sports,

1845
01:21:01,680 --> 01:21:05,000
Speaker 15: psychologists we got the signs. DOWN i mean there was

1846
01:21:05,080 --> 01:21:08,080
Speaker 15: A i MEAN i even went as far as to

1847
01:21:08,120 --> 01:21:12,920
Speaker 15: getting Studying Matt hume LIKE i was studying for a final.

1848
01:21:12,960 --> 01:21:16,840
Speaker 15: EXAM i had one of our Newal force video, editors

1849
01:21:17,080 --> 01:21:19,599
Speaker 15: the guy who works For Newer force. One they got

1850
01:21:19,720 --> 01:21:24,240
Speaker 15: Every Matt hume one minute interval between, rounds just the,

1851
01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:27,760
Speaker 15: interval just what he tells, them not the actual, fight

1852
01:21:27,960 --> 01:21:30,559
Speaker 15: just the. Intervals there's like fifty minutes of it THAT i,

1853
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,800
Speaker 15: had AND i was actually watching at the day of

1854
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,680
Speaker 15: the fight BECAUSE i wanted it to be reading his

1855
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 15: mind and knowing exactly how he's going to try to

1856
01:21:37,200 --> 01:21:42,720
Speaker 15: adapt To Henry, sirjudo AND i could see part of.

1857
01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:45,040
Speaker 15: IT i could see what he was, doing AND i

1858
01:21:45,120 --> 01:21:48,559
Speaker 15: was yelling stuff out To henry THAT i thought maybe

1859
01:21:48,600 --> 01:21:51,960
Speaker 15: that they were according to that to adaptations they were

1860
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,240
Speaker 15: making between each.

1861
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:57,800
Speaker 11: Round how bad Was henry's ankle after that first?

1862
01:21:57,880 --> 01:22:01,600
Speaker 15: Round, Man oh my, God, GOD i thought it was

1863
01:22:01,640 --> 01:22:04,160
Speaker 15: over in the first twenty. Seconds you, know my heart

1864
01:22:04,240 --> 01:22:07,639
Speaker 15: dropped AND i just, thought wait a, minute this guy's

1865
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 15: in the best shape of his. Life he wants this

1866
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:12,280
Speaker 15: more than. Anything it's not going to be. OVER i

1867
01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:16,000
Speaker 15: thought maybe him switching the south paw could have left

1868
01:22:16,080 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 15: him open, for you, know for that straight another straight

1869
01:22:21,120 --> 01:22:24,120
Speaker 15: pncer kick to the head in a base that he's

1870
01:22:24,160 --> 01:22:26,720
Speaker 15: not used. To but you know the, Thing, god it

1871
01:22:26,760 --> 01:22:27,240
Speaker 15: all worked.

1872
01:22:27,240 --> 01:22:27,400
Speaker 6: Out.

1873
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:32,320
Speaker 11: Eric how long have you been working With?

1874
01:22:32,400 --> 01:22:34,519
Speaker 6: HENRY i just want you to kind of explain your

1875
01:22:34,560 --> 01:22:36,639
Speaker 6: history With henry from their beginning a little.

1876
01:22:36,640 --> 01:22:40,600
Speaker 15: Bit in two thousand and, four he came to The

1877
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:43,680
Speaker 15: Olympic Training center the sophomore in high, school AND i

1878
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:47,400
Speaker 15: was already at The Olympic Training center. TRAINING i BELIEVE

1879
01:22:47,400 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 15: i was a lieutenant in The army at the, time

1880
01:22:49,360 --> 01:22:51,639
Speaker 15: and just you, KNOW i saw him and his brother

1881
01:22:52,240 --> 01:22:55,080
Speaker 15: as you know people for kids From, arizona AND i

1882
01:22:55,120 --> 01:22:58,080
Speaker 15: saw a little bit of myself and. Them oh he's

1883
01:22:58,080 --> 01:23:01,920
Speaker 15: one hundred and three pounds when he first, came AND

1884
01:23:02,000 --> 01:23:07,679
Speaker 15: i just you, know some some of sometimes these kids

1885
01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,920
Speaker 15: come to The Olympic Training center and they get they get

1886
01:23:09,960 --> 01:23:13,000
Speaker 15: lost or forgotten, about and they get maybe they hang

1887
01:23:13,040 --> 01:23:15,520
Speaker 15: out with a lot older people and they start following

1888
01:23:15,840 --> 01:23:18,600
Speaker 15: the wrong, things and, UH i just wanted to be

1889
01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 15: a mentor and, say, Listen i've done these things. Wrong

1890
01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,920
Speaker 15: don't follow and don't make the same mistake AS i.

1891
01:23:23,960 --> 01:23:27,080
Speaker 15: DID i usually don't Say i'm always, right But i'll

1892
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,600
Speaker 15: usually tell Him i've done this wrong and don't do.

1893
01:23:29,720 --> 01:23:32,080
Speaker 15: THAT i, said, yes you don't follow in my. Footstuff

1894
01:23:32,160 --> 01:23:35,320
Speaker 15: so that's kind of the WAY i kind of mentored

1895
01:23:35,400 --> 01:23:37,479
Speaker 15: him and HOW i saw him WHEN i met him

1896
01:23:37,479 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 15: in two thousand and, four you, know and then four

1897
01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:42,920
Speaker 15: years a couple of actually that same, year he is

1898
01:23:43,360 --> 01:23:45,600
Speaker 15: already beating me in the rustling. Room AND i was, Like,

1899
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:49,360
Speaker 15: wow MAYBE i should look and think about. Retiring SO

1900
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 15: i moving to a high school kid and THEN i

1901
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:55,000
Speaker 15: went and just. Retired and then by THEN i was

1902
01:23:55,000 --> 01:23:57,280
Speaker 15: a captain in the army and just me and him

1903
01:23:57,320 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 15: just became great, friends him and his. Brother you, know

1904
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:02,840
Speaker 15: his Brother angel has always been the character front in

1905
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 15: front Of henny that he's been. Chasing and both of

1906
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:07,880
Speaker 15: those guys are like brothers to me And.

1907
01:24:08,000 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 6: Eric if there's one, thing obviously he brings so many

1908
01:24:10,760 --> 01:24:15,679
Speaker 6: different talents to the, table but is there one thing

1909
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 6: that really stands out In Henry shudo that really told

1910
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:20,840
Speaker 6: you this guy's something?

1911
01:24:20,920 --> 01:24:22,240
Speaker 11: Special what is that?

1912
01:24:22,280 --> 01:24:28,400
Speaker 15: Thing it's got to be his, Belief it's got to

1913
01:24:28,439 --> 01:24:33,160
Speaker 15: be his. MIND i, mean even in this camp we've

1914
01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 15: had you, know we had ups and downs in the,

1915
01:24:35,080 --> 01:24:39,120
Speaker 15: camp and you, know he had different coaches given him different,

1916
01:24:39,160 --> 01:24:43,840
Speaker 15: advice and he would just, SAY i got. This believe,

1917
01:24:43,960 --> 01:24:46,760
Speaker 15: me don't be so. Worried i'm An olympic. Champion i've

1918
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,240
Speaker 15: been through. DIVERSITY i love these kinds of. Moments this

1919
01:24:49,960 --> 01:24:52,960
Speaker 15: kind of pressure doesn't bother. Me and we just had

1920
01:24:52,960 --> 01:24:56,439
Speaker 15: to sit back and believe. Him and he was, right you,

1921
01:24:56,479 --> 01:24:59,559
Speaker 15: know he he lives for this. Moment he thrives in these,

1922
01:24:59,600 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 15: moments and that's what Happened saturday, night, first from the

1923
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,040
Speaker 15: first round to overcoming and you, know almost a broken,

1924
01:25:06,120 --> 01:25:10,960
Speaker 15: ankle to going out in the fifth round and having

1925
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:14,719
Speaker 15: more cardial Than Demetrius johnson and beating The poumph crownd

1926
01:25:14,760 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 15: greatest fighter of all time to win THE ufc gold

1927
01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:20,760
Speaker 15: ten years after winning The olympic. GOLD i, mean we

1928
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 15: may never see that again in.

1929
01:25:22,160 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 10: History, yeah, no it's.

1930
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,720
Speaker 9: Amazing one of the truly great combat sports athletes of our.

1931
01:25:27,760 --> 01:25:30,559
Speaker 9: Lifetime and thankfully he is now A ufc, champion so

1932
01:25:30,640 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 9: he is firmly in that conversation his longtime chief Corner

1933
01:25:33,720 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 9: eric about a scene with us on the Anacon florian.

1934
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,759
Speaker 9: PODCAST i know you've done great work With Team nogara

1935
01:25:37,800 --> 01:25:39,840
Speaker 9: and a lot of DIFFERENT ufc fighters over the, years

1936
01:25:39,840 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 9: and not that you need validation for your ability as a.

1937
01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,400
Speaker 9: Coach you understand the mental, GAME i think as well

1938
01:25:45,439 --> 01:25:48,720
Speaker 9: as anybody who's in A ufc. Corner but does this

1939
01:25:48,840 --> 01:25:52,919
Speaker 9: win and the added spotlight that comes with it validate

1940
01:25:53,000 --> 01:25:55,080
Speaker 9: all the time at least that you put into to

1941
01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:56,720
Speaker 9: Making henry and other fighters so?

1942
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:01,320
Speaker 15: Great oh my, god he just hit it right on the.

1943
01:26:01,400 --> 01:26:06,200
Speaker 15: HEAD i, MEAN i it's been a whirld. Whin you.

1944
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:09,160
Speaker 15: KNOW i went To Tino gehre AFTER i got out

1945
01:26:09,200 --> 01:26:13,360
Speaker 15: The army and went To. California but after A california

1946
01:26:13,439 --> 01:26:15,440
Speaker 15: stint for a couple of, YEARS i was in a depressed,

1947
01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:18,200
Speaker 15: mode living out of a, car crying all the. Time

1948
01:26:18,200 --> 01:26:21,479
Speaker 15: and THEN i Met Padrigo milghera and he, said, HEY

1949
01:26:21,520 --> 01:26:25,360
Speaker 15: i need. You i'm Fighting Brandon, shaub my brother's Fighting Tito,

1950
01:26:25,479 --> 01:26:29,080
Speaker 15: ortiz and he's, like tell me he saw me in

1951
01:26:29,160 --> 01:26:32,880
Speaker 15: a bad situation in my. Life he's, like, HEY i

1952
01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:34,160
Speaker 15: can help. YOU i need.

1953
01:26:34,200 --> 01:26:34,880
Speaker 5: You do you need?

1954
01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:38,240
Speaker 15: Me you forget about whatever situation that's going on with

1955
01:26:38,280 --> 01:26:41,200
Speaker 15: you right, now come To brazil and coach. Us and

1956
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:45,120
Speaker 15: then from THERE i went from THE us going To,

1957
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:48,200
Speaker 15: brazil staying there for three years with Tin. Nogere you,

1958
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 15: know we had the number one team in the world

1959
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:53,760
Speaker 15: With Anderson, Silver, Minataro Big, Nog Little Nock Junior. Losampils

1960
01:26:53,800 --> 01:26:57,000
Speaker 15: at that, time both those guys had. Belt feijiao had the.

1961
01:26:57,080 --> 01:26:59,720
Speaker 15: Belt you, know the Pitt bull, Brothers and that's where it,

1962
01:26:59,760 --> 01:27:02,719
Speaker 15: all WHERE i met the Pit bull. Brothers Patrisa patricky

1963
01:27:03,040 --> 01:27:05,360
Speaker 15: when they were just twenty, two twenty three years, old

1964
01:27:05,880 --> 01:27:10,479
Speaker 15: and just eventually going to with The Pitbull brothers to

1965
01:27:10,680 --> 01:27:13,800
Speaker 15: natal with them and getting a world title From patrisa

1966
01:27:13,880 --> 01:27:16,280
Speaker 15: and him becoming the greatest world champion of all. Time

1967
01:27:16,800 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 15: but this one is sweeter because of how it went.

1968
01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,640
Speaker 15: Down you, know he lost two years ago in the

1969
01:27:24,680 --> 01:27:28,479
Speaker 15: two minutes thirty six, seconds and two years, later coming

1970
01:27:28,600 --> 01:27:31,240
Speaker 15: after The Santa rosa fires where he almost, died he

1971
01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,000
Speaker 15: had to fight for his life and one time just to.

1972
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:36,479
Speaker 15: Live we're not talking in the. Cage this was a

1973
01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:41,720
Speaker 15: real fire that killed fifty, people and you Know henry survived.

1974
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 15: That and here we Are saturday. Night he comes out

1975
01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,800
Speaker 15: on top and beats the greatest fighter of all time

1976
01:27:48,520 --> 01:27:52,040
Speaker 15: two in my, eyes becoming the greatest combat athlete of all.

1977
01:27:52,080 --> 01:27:56,360
Speaker 15: Time it's just. Amazing what it. Surreal it's a dream

1978
01:27:56,400 --> 01:27:59,320
Speaker 15: come true and it's one of the greatest greatest moments

1979
01:27:59,360 --> 01:28:00,080
Speaker 15: in my. Life And.

1980
01:28:01,720 --> 01:28:05,280
Speaker 9: I'm real happy and you deserve, it Man, richly and

1981
01:28:05,320 --> 01:28:07,880
Speaker 9: that is your reality right. Now Henry shudo is THE

1982
01:28:07,960 --> 01:28:11,880
Speaker 9: Ufc Flyweight. Champion very quickly BECAUSE i don't want to

1983
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:16,200
Speaker 9: leave without at least talking About bohashina OR i can't

1984
01:28:16,200 --> 01:28:19,280
Speaker 9: even call him that, Anymore Palo. Costa but in terms

1985
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:24,960
Speaker 9: Of henry's yeah.

1986
01:28:24,520 --> 01:28:27,160
Speaker 10: So BUT i will get to him and then you

1987
01:28:27,160 --> 01:28:27,920
Speaker 10: Can we'll let you.

1988
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:31,320
Speaker 9: Go BUT, i in terms Of henry's immediate, future seems

1989
01:28:31,360 --> 01:28:34,280
Speaker 9: to have mastered this weight cut while also adding muscle

1990
01:28:34,360 --> 01:28:36,400
Speaker 9: to the mid, section WHICH i think helped him with

1991
01:28:36,439 --> 01:28:38,599
Speaker 9: some of the body. Shots BUT i, mean you are

1992
01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 9: as intimately involved with him as. Anyone would you rather

1993
01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:43,559
Speaker 9: see him move up to thirty five as he seems

1994
01:28:43,560 --> 01:28:46,240
Speaker 9: to want to, do or are there flyweight fights in his?

1995
01:28:46,280 --> 01:28:46,639
Speaker 10: Future?

1996
01:28:48,439 --> 01:28:52,000
Speaker 15: Oh and you know they say he's real heard possibly

1997
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:55,679
Speaker 15: TORN ltl before the weight division or just For henry

1998
01:28:56,360 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 15: uh in, general moving up is what he's been. Wanted

1999
01:29:01,520 --> 01:29:04,200
Speaker 15: back IN i think it was one seventy SEVEN ufc

2000
01:29:04,240 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 15: one seventy Seven henry didn't make, weight but who also

2001
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:13,680
Speaker 15: didn't make weight Was Hennon barrow AND tj was A

2002
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 15: tampa and there was an opportunity where some of the

2003
01:29:16,280 --> 01:29:18,880
Speaker 15: guys from THE ufc were asking About henry going up

2004
01:29:18,880 --> 01:29:22,240
Speaker 15: and FIGHTING tj back, then and THEN i have it

2005
01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:26,920
Speaker 15: last Year henry's asked Protecting Dana white to FIGHT. Tj

2006
01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:30,000
Speaker 15: a year Ago. JUNE i have the text message that

2007
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:33,000
Speaker 15: he sent To Dana, white a screenshot of, it and

2008
01:29:33,040 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 15: then now Comes. Saturday you know he called him. Out

2009
01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,439
Speaker 15: this has got to go. Down skuys. Limit let's get

2010
01:29:38,479 --> 01:29:42,960
Speaker 15: two belts if You're olympic gold, medalist Friveweight champion of The,

2011
01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:46,960
Speaker 15: world bantam weight champion on the. World hell we can

2012
01:29:47,840 --> 01:29:49,840
Speaker 15: a couple of, years he might grow into one forty.

2013
01:29:49,880 --> 01:29:56,000
Speaker 15: Five connor McGregor And mac collaway and BUYING o take, Again.

2014
01:29:56,120 --> 01:29:59,880
Speaker 9: Bety all, right last, thing so The, Eraser paolo cost

2015
01:30:00,600 --> 01:30:02,960
Speaker 9: has been on an absolute. Tear is it done For

2016
01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:06,479
Speaker 9: NOVEMBER ufc two thirty Against Joel romero or are we still?

2017
01:30:06,520 --> 01:30:06,760
Speaker 10: Waiting?

2018
01:30:09,960 --> 01:30:12,160
Speaker 16: Yeah, oh you know, What i'm not sure if it's.

2019
01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:14,400
Speaker 16: Done there's been a lot of media about. It, Everybody,

2020
01:30:14,520 --> 01:30:17,920
Speaker 16: okay you KNOW i want. BOY i know The eraser

2021
01:30:18,000 --> 01:30:20,000
Speaker 16: wants that, fight and you know that's gonna be. Awesome

2022
01:30:20,360 --> 01:30:23,240
Speaker 16: that's like a number one contender fight for. Me if

2023
01:30:23,240 --> 01:30:26,640
Speaker 16: he could win, that we got ANOTHER ufc title in the.

2024
01:30:26,720 --> 01:30:30,080
Speaker 16: Future And Patricky Pitt bulzolf who got another number one

2025
01:30:30,200 --> 01:30:31,320
Speaker 16: contender fight next.

2026
01:30:31,360 --> 01:30:35,320
Speaker 15: Month so everybody's doing. Great all my fighters are feeding

2027
01:30:35,360 --> 01:30:37,400
Speaker 15: off each other and we're trying to be the. Best

2028
01:30:37,800 --> 01:30:41,160
Speaker 15: we're trying to take. Over, Basically, well.

2029
01:30:41,000 --> 01:30:42,840
Speaker 9: You're well on your, way, man and there's a lot

2030
01:30:42,880 --> 01:30:45,439
Speaker 9: of respect from us coming to you. TODAY i didn't

2031
01:30:45,479 --> 01:30:47,240
Speaker 9: mean to put you on the spot On Polo, costa

2032
01:30:47,240 --> 01:30:50,400
Speaker 9: but hopefully that. Happens he Is eric Albout. Assin congrats

2033
01:30:50,439 --> 01:30:52,760
Speaker 9: out a huge, win man career defining for. You hope

2034
01:30:52,760 --> 01:30:54,479
Speaker 9: you And henry enjoy. It send him our best and

2035
01:30:54,520 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 9: we'll talk to you.

2036
01:30:55,000 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 5: Soon.

2037
01:30:56,760 --> 01:30:59,240
Speaker 15: Yeah, YEAH i Got henry right. Here he wants to say.

2038
01:30:59,240 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 15: Hello put them on With.

2039
01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 3: JOHN i wanting to Say, Hi. MAN i just, HOPE

2040
01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,200
Speaker 3: i hope the pre interview THAT i had with you

2041
01:31:08,240 --> 01:31:10,480
Speaker 3: guys prior to finding, me SO i hope you understand

2042
01:31:10,520 --> 01:31:11,479
Speaker 3: me a little bit better.

2043
01:31:11,520 --> 01:31:14,080
Speaker 9: Now you, know we have spent the bulk of the

2044
01:31:14,120 --> 01:31:16,639
Speaker 9: show talking about you, today my, man and everything you've

2045
01:31:16,640 --> 01:31:18,760
Speaker 9: done over the past two years to put yourself in

2046
01:31:18,840 --> 01:31:22,120
Speaker 9: position to accomplish, this and, DUDE i, mean you are

2047
01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:24,880
Speaker 9: as special as any athlete any of us have ever been.

2048
01:31:24,920 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 9: Around on the fact that you cap this thing with

2049
01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:30,880
Speaker 9: A ufc, championship, man congratulations as sincerely as we can

2050
01:31:30,920 --> 01:31:31,559
Speaker 9: send them your, way.

2051
01:31:31,600 --> 01:31:35,559
Speaker 3: Bro, yeah, NO I i appreciate, It JOHN i appreciate thank,

2052
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:39,160
Speaker 3: you thank you for for mixed martial arts and, uh that's, it,

2053
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,040
Speaker 3: MAN i just, said this is this is to start

2054
01:31:41,080 --> 01:31:41,439
Speaker 3: to something.

2055
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:44,080
Speaker 9: Great all, right, man we'll enjoy the rest of your.

2056
01:31:44,160 --> 01:31:47,480
Speaker 9: Day we'll let you get to. It Thanks, Bud Congratulations, henry.

2057
01:31:49,080 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 15: Thank.

2058
01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:53,679
Speaker 6: You amazing The olympic gold.

2059
01:31:53,720 --> 01:31:54,280
Speaker 5: Medal he sat.

2060
01:31:54,320 --> 01:31:56,080
Speaker 6: Down he, said one of the cool he, said one

2061
01:31:56,080 --> 01:31:58,400
Speaker 6: of the coolest things that like gave me. Chills he

2062
01:31:58,680 --> 01:31:59,200
Speaker 6: posts on His.

2063
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:01,120
Speaker 11: Instagram i'm gonna to, you he.

2064
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:07,680
Speaker 6: Said now the light at the end of the tunnel has,

2065
01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,000
Speaker 6: disappeared and TODAY i realized there never was a light

2066
01:32:11,080 --> 01:32:11,680
Speaker 6: at the end of the.

2067
01:32:11,680 --> 01:32:13,640
Speaker 11: Tunnel it was just a reflection of.

2068
01:32:13,720 --> 01:32:17,000
Speaker 6: ME i am the light AND i thought that was

2069
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:21,320
Speaker 6: amazing that a guy who looked at. It he lost

2070
01:32:21,360 --> 01:32:23,559
Speaker 6: To Demitrius. Johnson he, Said i'm going to face that.

2071
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:27,120
Speaker 6: Again he thought that was the, motivation and in the

2072
01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,680
Speaker 6: end he, realized you, know it was. Him he was the.

2073
01:32:29,720 --> 01:32:32,920
Speaker 6: Guy he was the guy who was gonna do. It

2074
01:32:32,960 --> 01:32:35,519
Speaker 6: he had to beat himself more than anything, else and

2075
01:32:35,880 --> 01:32:37,519
Speaker 6: the fact that he was able to get it done

2076
01:32:38,400 --> 01:32:38,640
Speaker 6: was just.

2077
01:32:39,120 --> 01:32:42,320
Speaker 9: Unreal and you heard some of the insights From eric

2078
01:32:42,439 --> 01:32:44,639
Speaker 9: just in terms of how badly he wants. It and

2079
01:32:45,080 --> 01:32:48,000
Speaker 9: this is a motivational speaker who is a soft spoken.

2080
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:50,559
Speaker 9: Guy there's such power in his, words but he's not

2081
01:32:50,640 --> 01:32:55,200
Speaker 9: trying to overpower you with bravado or his. Voice but

2082
01:32:55,600 --> 01:32:57,519
Speaker 9: when he says to you LIKE i got, This i'm

2083
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:00,680
Speaker 9: The olympic, CHAMPION i, mean that Is Henry sahuto in a,

2084
01:33:00,760 --> 01:33:04,600
Speaker 9: nutshell and he really, believes without a shadow of a

2085
01:33:04,680 --> 01:33:07,439
Speaker 9: doubt that if there's an athletic, competition that he should

2086
01:33:07,479 --> 01:33:09,920
Speaker 9: be the best, guy you, know pound for pound in

2087
01:33:10,000 --> 01:33:10,439
Speaker 9: his weight.

2088
01:33:10,479 --> 01:33:12,920
Speaker 10: Class and you, know he just works so.

2089
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 9: HARD i just don't think you CAN i know it

2090
01:33:15,479 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 9: was a close fight, flow BUT i just don't think

2091
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:19,559
Speaker 9: you can overstate how hard it is to beat someone

2092
01:33:19,600 --> 01:33:20,839
Speaker 9: LIKE dj over five.

2093
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:23,960
Speaker 6: Rounds no doubt about, it. Man but if someone was

2094
01:33:24,000 --> 01:33:27,519
Speaker 6: gonna get it, done it Was Henry. Suhudo because, again

2095
01:33:27,560 --> 01:33:30,560
Speaker 6: you look at, wrestling, man you know how many insane

2096
01:33:30,640 --> 01:33:34,280
Speaker 6: athletes there are just to make like The russian national,

2097
01:33:34,320 --> 01:33:37,880
Speaker 6: team just to represent your country in a place Like

2098
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:42,960
Speaker 6: iran Or russia Or kazakhstan or all all these you,

2099
01:33:42,960 --> 01:33:45,840
Speaker 6: know high level wrestling, countries just to be the number

2100
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:46,519
Speaker 6: one guy in your weight.

2101
01:33:46,560 --> 01:33:50,000
Speaker 11: Class you gotta be a freaking savage all.

2102
01:33:50,080 --> 01:33:53,080
Speaker 6: Right, now out of all those guys all over the,

2103
01:33:53,120 --> 01:34:00,000
Speaker 6: World henry established himself as the very. Best it takes unbelievable.

2104
01:34:00,120 --> 01:34:03,200
Speaker 6: TRAINING i, believe belief in. Yourself you know you're talking,

2105
01:34:03,240 --> 01:34:06,320
Speaker 6: about you, know the access that he has to the

2106
01:34:06,360 --> 01:34:09,120
Speaker 6: best coaches in the world at The Olympic Training. Center you,

2107
01:34:09,160 --> 01:34:13,440
Speaker 6: know they have the best sports, psychologists the best string conditioning,

2108
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:17,839
Speaker 6: coaches you, know experts on recovery and rest and sleep,

2109
01:34:17,920 --> 01:34:20,439
Speaker 6: experts AND i mean he has so many different you,

2110
01:34:20,479 --> 01:34:23,840
Speaker 6: know people that have helped him achieve that goal and

2111
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:27,240
Speaker 6: carrying all that experience in with him in this fight

2112
01:34:27,280 --> 01:34:30,840
Speaker 6: Against Demetrius. JOHNSON i mean, again if there was one

2113
01:34:30,840 --> 01:34:32,120
Speaker 6: guy who was going to get it, done it was

2114
01:34:32,160 --> 01:34:33,320
Speaker 6: going to be someone Like Henrusu.

2115
01:34:33,400 --> 01:34:36,519
Speaker 9: Hudo in two thousand and, eight THE Us olympic team

2116
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:40,200
Speaker 9: went seven to nine, overall four of those wins Were Henry,

2117
01:34:40,240 --> 01:34:43,400
Speaker 9: sahudo you, Know and ten years later he's THE ufc.

2118
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,799
Speaker 9: Champion and in terms of, life hitting back and life

2119
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,040
Speaker 9: not being. Fair, Right, So Daniel cormier is on top

2120
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:53,840
Speaker 9: of the. World, Okay july, seventh he becomes a simultaneous

2121
01:34:53,880 --> 01:34:58,000
Speaker 9: two DIVISION ufc. Champion, okay and one month, later, right

2122
01:34:58,280 --> 01:35:01,200
Speaker 9: a man accomplishes what no man has ever, accomplished An

2123
01:35:01,240 --> 01:35:04,720
Speaker 9: olympic gold medal and A ufc. Championship and given the

2124
01:35:04,760 --> 01:35:07,880
Speaker 9: WAY dc And sohudo put That olympic gold on a.

2125
01:35:07,920 --> 01:35:10,519
Speaker 9: Pedestal you know there was some part Of Daniel cormier

2126
01:35:10,560 --> 01:35:11,559
Speaker 9: sitting there four weeks.

2127
01:35:11,439 --> 01:35:13,680
Speaker 10: Later, thinking, man you, KNOW i KNOW i got it.

2128
01:35:13,720 --> 01:35:17,320
Speaker 9: All But Henry sahudo has That olympic gold, too and

2129
01:35:17,640 --> 01:35:21,040
Speaker 9: it's just interesting that little backdrop to it as.

2130
01:35:21,080 --> 01:35:23,680
Speaker 10: Well all, right loaded show, today nicely, Done.

2131
01:35:23,720 --> 01:35:26,840
Speaker 9: Kenflow we're gonna let you get back to The South carolina.

2132
01:35:26,920 --> 01:35:29,840
Speaker 9: Sunshine thank you to our Guest Eric albouta sing little

2133
01:35:29,880 --> 01:35:32,719
Speaker 9: cameo there From Henry, shuto the new Flyweight, King James,

2134
01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:35,719
Speaker 9: Vick Alex, Perez Rey. Longo thanks everybody Of Fox sports

2135
01:35:35,720 --> 01:35:39,200
Speaker 9: for going three locations, Today Ben, Janko, Jeff, John, danny.

2136
01:35:39,240 --> 01:35:41,760
Speaker 9: Everybody i'm forgetting For Ken, Flow, john and thank you

2137
01:35:41,760 --> 01:35:44,200
Speaker 9: all for. Listening enjoy a week off FROM ufc. Action

2138
01:35:44,280 --> 01:35:46,040
Speaker 9: we will talk to you in less than seven. Days until,

2139
01:35:46,040 --> 01:35:47,639
Speaker 9: then don't sax and drive you'll.

2140
01:35:47,520 --> 01:35:50,479
Speaker 7: Later The John ennik And Kenny florian.

2141
01:35:50,600 --> 01:35:57,320
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2142
01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:58,360
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2143
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:01,519
Speaker 17: Antidote I'm Tom martin And i'm a veteran sports analyst

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