Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of The Black Effect
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Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Reasonably Shady. I am josellbe Bryant.
Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Everyone? This is Robin Dixon. Thank
Speaker 1: you for being here with us once again. We appreciate
Speaker 1: you as always.
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, and we're like super excited.
Speaker 2: First of all, it's March.
Speaker 3: Hello, March okay, And March is like actually Robin's month
Speaker 3: again because it's her birthday month, so let's.
Speaker 1: Get hearn that.
Speaker 3: And I'm taking Robin out whether she wants to go
Speaker 3: and not even if I have to kidnap you, like
Speaker 3: pick you up, throw you over my shoulder.
Speaker 2: We're going out for your birthday. Oh my god.
Speaker 1: I have to start mentally preparing because this so this
Speaker 1: is like a it's like, you know, semi milestone birthday.
Speaker 1: I'll be turning forty five.
Speaker 3: Forty five, forty five, this is amazing. Same to me,
Speaker 3: we celebrating bribing.
Speaker 1: So I'm just like, okay, do I have to like
Speaker 1: what do I need to do? It's also the month
Speaker 1: of March is my parents' fiftieth wedding anniversary. Wow, which
Speaker 1: I'm like I haven't planned anything surrounding that either, So
Speaker 1: we got a lot to do.
Speaker 2: Missy.
Speaker 1: We're all just like really low key, like we just
Speaker 1: don't do you think I just spent you know that?
Speaker 1: But I'm saying my parents as well, like we're just like,
Speaker 1: you know, we just don't do like huge celebrations all
Speaker 1: the time. But I think fifty years of being married.
Speaker 3: Listen, you spend fifty years with with some shoes or
Speaker 3: a purse, it is time for some acknowledgement.
Speaker 2: Okay, right, fifty year is is a long time.
Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, speaking of spending years with shoes
Speaker 1: and purses. I just I have been purging my closet, yeah,
Speaker 1: for a few months now because I actually built a
Speaker 1: new closet in my house. I turned one of my
Speaker 1: guest bedrooms into a closet. But I have got rid
Speaker 1: of so much stuff, Like it's so crazy how much
Speaker 1: we accumulate.
Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you feel good about it?
Speaker 1: I do, because it's like, I mean, bags and bags
Speaker 1: and bags of clothes and shoes and handbags. And I'm
Speaker 1: just like, why do we accumulate so much stuff? Why?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, so how often do you purge.
Speaker 3: When I just feel like my closet is getting overrun.
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, maybe like twice a year.
Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have shoes that you've had for like
Speaker 1: longer than ten years? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I do?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I have. There's still some shoes
Speaker 1: and bags and stuff that I can't depart with that
Speaker 1: I've had for probably damn near twenty years almost. But
Speaker 1: then there's somewhere it's just like you think about how
Speaker 1: much money you paid for them. They were designer whatever
Speaker 1: at the time, and it's like you almost get mad
Speaker 1: at yourself, like I can't believe I paid much for
Speaker 1: these shoes and I wore them twice and they've been
Speaker 1: in my closet for ten years or however long, Like
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. It's just so I've been going through
Speaker 1: a lot of that emotionally, just letting go of stuff
Speaker 1: that I'm like, I spent a lot of money on it,
Speaker 1: but I haven't worn it, and it's got to go.
Speaker 2: Let it go.
Speaker 3: The exciting part about today is that it's International Women's Day.
Speaker 3: Today is not the day, but it is happening reasonably.
Speaker 3: Shady is so excited that we're able to like honor
Speaker 3: women like, uh yeah, that's what we need to be doing,
Speaker 3: honoring some women and you know my shady moment, because
Speaker 3: that's how we always start this episode, has to do
Speaker 3: it little women call my children?
Speaker 1: What did they do this time?
Speaker 3: First of all, they're like money in their little car
Speaker 3: that they call stink bug. The all change light was on, okay,
Speaker 3: so I was like, okay, guys, I'll take it in
Speaker 3: not a.
Speaker 2: Rout, I take it. And this car is rather old.
Speaker 3: Right, and they're like, oh man, you we can change
Speaker 3: the oil for you. But the oil is leaking into
Speaker 3: the oil pan and you know, engine transmission.
Speaker 2: It's this, it's that. So I was like, what does
Speaker 2: that mean to me?
Speaker 3: And so they were like we I think we need
Speaker 3: to like handle this problem okay, which was going to
Speaker 3: cost thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2: Okay, let's just start there.
Speaker 3: But I'd rather my kids be safe than sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so just handle it, they said.
Speaker 2: Cool. I go to the little people.
Speaker 3: I live with the little women, and I say, hey,
Speaker 3: your car is not gonna be ready for two more days.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 3: They fell out like they were like actually like it
Speaker 3: was an atomic bomb.
Speaker 2: Their hands were on their heads. There was screaming at
Speaker 2: the top of their lawns.
Speaker 3: They were like no, just were like going nuts, like Mommy,
Speaker 3: why didn't you why did you do this to us?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 2: And I'm like what They were like like.
Speaker 3: You're supposed to fix all problems, like ma, like why
Speaker 3: would they need the car for two days?
Speaker 2: What?
Speaker 1: What?
Speaker 3: So Robin I dropped that stupid stink bug off on Thursday. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Monday it was still in there. Yeah, And they said
Speaker 3: they didn't know when it was.
Speaker 1: Going to be done.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: I keep forwarding the text message that they send me.
Speaker 3: I send to them and for whatever reason, it's my fuck.
Speaker 3: And so I'm like, girls, let's be clear, I'm spending
Speaker 3: thousands of dollars on this stupid car that y'all call stinker, right,
Speaker 3: so deal with the fact that y'all need to be
Speaker 3: appreciative number one. Number two, if you don't.
Speaker 1: Have a car for five minutes, calm down, be Okay,
Speaker 1: that's what Uber's for.
Speaker 3: So Uber your ants around town? Okay, are they working?
Speaker 3: So that's what they said, Well, we're babysity and we
Speaker 3: need the car, and you know, a door does the
Speaker 3: cross now and she's trying out for the team, not
Speaker 3: that she's not going to make it, and she's like,
Speaker 3: I have things to do.
Speaker 2: This is such an inconvenience and mommy, why why would
Speaker 2: this happen? Why?
Speaker 1: But they've only been driving this car for how long?
Speaker 1: They act like? Right?
Speaker 2: Five minutes? Okay, So these little women need to get.
Speaker 3: It together, right, Oh my god. Yeah, they have it
Speaker 3: back now, thank god. But I was just like I
Speaker 3: couldn't believe their reaction. They just like lost it.
Speaker 1: So would you because I know, like you went out
Speaker 1: of town recently, would you let them drive your car
Speaker 1: while you're out of town?
Speaker 2: No, they don't.
Speaker 3: They actually didn't want to drive my car because they
Speaker 3: feel like it's too big and they would definitely wreck it. Okay,
Speaker 3: So they're fearful to drive my car, which is creat Okay.
Speaker 3: They will wait for sick buck to be back and
Speaker 3: stride again, okay, Okay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted to put a band aid on it,
Speaker 1: and then the band aid would all off and the
Speaker 1: thing would fall apart.
Speaker 2: Now, but everybody relaxed, calm down, it's okay, Okay.
Speaker 3: So there are some women that I want we need
Speaker 3: to talk about, especially when it comes to.
Speaker 2: Contributions that they.
Speaker 3: Have done in science and in math and there's like
Speaker 3: some bad ass women out here, and.
Speaker 2: I feel like they don't get their duke, Robbin. They
Speaker 2: do not get their duke right.
Speaker 3: The next time, Robin, that you use your navigation in
Speaker 3: your car or any navigation software like Google Maps, you
Speaker 3: can thank doctor Gladys West, who is actually a black woman.
Speaker 3: He's the inventor of GPS technology. Gladys West. Now have
Speaker 3: you ever heard that name before? Have you ever like
Speaker 3: nos that ever been on radar? Like if we don't
Speaker 3: have navigation, we're scrossing.
Speaker 1: Right, And I'm just thinking of how significant that invention
Speaker 1: and convenience is because you think back in the days
Speaker 1: when you had to pull out the paper map and
Speaker 1: you know, write down where you were going first. I
Speaker 1: think when I started driving, that was when like map
Speaker 1: quests was useful. So was she? Did she contribute to
Speaker 1: the map quest stage or more to like what's on
Speaker 1: our smartphones and in our vehicles now?
Speaker 2: I think what's in our vehicles now?
Speaker 3: Because she help invent software like Google Maps, So Google
Speaker 3: Maps is kind of like what's what we use today.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the inventor of GPS technology.
Speaker 3: Like, right, every day, I use my GPS tech every day,
Speaker 3: every time I get in the car, So thank you, Gladdys.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it's amazing. It's like don't you wonder
Speaker 1: how that works because it's like where it shows you
Speaker 1: the traffic. I use it every day too, even if
Speaker 1: I know where I'm going, because I want to see
Speaker 1: what the traffic is like. And that's just yes, So
Speaker 1: that's even amazing. It's just you can you can get
Speaker 1: to your destination but also get to it in the
Speaker 1: quickest way possible. That's yeah. No, Gladys is the bomb.
Speaker 1: I would love to like, I would love to know
Speaker 1: more about her, you know what I'm saying, like where
Speaker 1: does she go to college? And what was Like how
Speaker 1: does she get in this field? I always think when
Speaker 1: you think about technology, you don't see a lot of
Speaker 1: women in the technology field, Like how did she get there?
Speaker 3: Maybe she got in there kicking and screaming, or maybe
Speaker 3: she got in there because somebody, you know, realized that
Speaker 3: without her technology, they had.
Speaker 2: To let her in.
Speaker 3: I don't know her back story, but like even with
Speaker 3: the ladies from Hidny Figures.
Speaker 2: Do you remember that? Do you remember that movie?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Absolutely, those ladies NASA did not want to use their knowledge.
Speaker 3: They didn't want to respect the fact that they had
Speaker 3: the knowledge. They didn't want any parts of these black women,
Speaker 3: but because they were so bad what they were doing,
Speaker 3: they had to acknowledge them.
Speaker 2: They had to give them the job.
Speaker 3: They had to find a bathroom for them to use
Speaker 3: as they're at work doing their job. Like all that
Speaker 3: kind of stuff is insanity. My dad worked for NASSHA, yeah,
Speaker 3: and he was just like.
Speaker 2: Yeah, these women were real. Harry Dorothy was one of them.
Speaker 3: And Barack Obama gave the Congressional Gold Medal, which is
Speaker 3: the highest honor presented by Congress to a civilian, to Darden,
Speaker 3: who was at that time she was seventy seven and
Speaker 3: she's now the only living hidden figure. This was back
Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. I'm not sure now there was Catherine Johnson,
Speaker 3: all of these ladies. I can't even what's crazy is
Speaker 3: I can't even like put my finger on how smart
Speaker 3: they are because it's.
Speaker 2: Like space aviation, yeah, like all of it.
Speaker 1: It's just like, uh uh it is mind blowing, right.
Speaker 1: We can't even wrap our head around the just what
Speaker 1: they had to learn in order to do what they do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you know, I worry about putting makeup
Speaker 1: on and you know, oh, let me watch a makeup tutorial. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: you have you know, women like this who you know.
Speaker 1: It's like you wonder like what inspired them to get
Speaker 1: into the field, but also just how does your brain
Speaker 1: work to even comprehend what is going on and then
Speaker 1: to make advancements in the field. It's crazy. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just and I thought I was a smart math student,
Speaker 1: but there's no way I can grasp what they learned.
Speaker 1: So your father was very familiar with them, Yes, yes, absolutely,
Speaker 1: that's awesome. In the movie was never made, we would
Speaker 1: still never know about them, right, Yeah.
Speaker 2: That's the sad part. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I think women are the most underrated people walking. I
Speaker 3: think that forever and still to this day. The fact
Speaker 3: that we are paid pennies on the dollar to what
Speaker 3: men are paid for the same job is an absurdity,
Speaker 3: I think, you know, when I look at because there's
Speaker 3: there's some women that talk out talk about it publicly.
Speaker 3: You know, there's I know, Gabrielle Union from the entertainment industry,
Speaker 3: Reese Witherspoon, Viola Davis.
Speaker 2: They speak publicly about like, look, this is just not fair.
Speaker 3: I read something that it's going to take a century,
Speaker 3: a century, Robin for us to be equally paid.
Speaker 2: With the rate we're going as men. And I have daughters, so.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like why yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah in the black women, like, you know, we can't
Speaker 3: get if women. If white women are eighty five cents
Speaker 3: on a dollar, we're like.
Speaker 1: Sixty sixty yeah, right, So the gender pay gap. White
Speaker 1: women earned eighty two cents for every dollar a man makes,
Speaker 1: African American women earned sixty cents, and Latina's earned fifty
Speaker 1: five cents for every dollar earned by white non Hispanic men.
Speaker 1: And the additionally, only eight eight percent of fortunate five
Speaker 1: hundred CEOs are women. And it's so crazy because women
Speaker 1: are just so brilliant. There were geniuses, we're hard workers,
Speaker 1: we're no nonsense, and this disparity still exists, which is insane.
Speaker 2: And it's like, we are proven to be smarter. We're
Speaker 2: smarter than men. I ain't no question about smarter than men.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine can you imagine if women actually were
Speaker 1: in power politically, you know, President President, you know, imagine that.
Speaker 1: Imagine how beautiful our country would be. We would not
Speaker 1: be this delighted.
Speaker 3: We would have beautiful flowers planted all over the place.
Speaker 3: We have beautiful trees. There would be peace and be peace.
Speaker 3: Everybody would be eating. Education would be through the roof.
Speaker 1: Like.
Speaker 2: Think about all because typically teachers are more women than men.
Speaker 1: Mm hmm.
Speaker 3: Think about if they were paid properly, right, let's pay them.
Speaker 2: Come on, y'all, we got to do right.
Speaker 3: There's so many people that you know, I always want
Speaker 3: to give a shout out anytime I talk about like women,
Speaker 3: I always want to give a shout obviously to my mom,
Speaker 3: who was you know, huge role model and example in
Speaker 3: my life.
Speaker 2: She always pushed me to be the best that I
Speaker 2: could possibly.
Speaker 3: Be, always affirmed that the sky's the limit, that there's
Speaker 3: nothing that I should ever be scared of or that
Speaker 3: should ever let stop me from getting anything that I
Speaker 3: wanted to do. And I appreciate that and that I
Speaker 3: have instilled in my daughters. And you know, I probably
Speaker 3: instilled it too much because these these girls do just
Speaker 3: think tell them anything.
Speaker 2: But you need like strong women in your life.
Speaker 3: Listen, my mom, every every day, Robin and I did
Speaker 3: not pick this up as a mother, but every day
Speaker 3: there was food on the table. She have a hot,
Speaker 3: fresh meal that was like not a repeat for like
Speaker 3: thirty days, right, and.
Speaker 2: Now that I am a mother, that is like phenomenal.
Speaker 1: It is like it is.
Speaker 3: She made sure we always ate together as a family, right,
Speaker 3: Like that is still so much character and self worth
Speaker 3: and value in me that I didn't appreciate it at
Speaker 3: the time, of course, but that's not.
Speaker 2: The point, Like it was amazing.
Speaker 1: Right of course. Of course if with my mom, I
Speaker 1: always admired watching her be an entrepreneur, and I think
Speaker 1: a lot of that rubbed off on me because I
Speaker 1: would sit and watch her work, and you know, my
Speaker 1: play time, especially by myself, would be to like pretend
Speaker 1: like I owned a store, and so like everything, I
Speaker 1: would put a price tag on everything, and I have
Speaker 1: my little pretend customers and I'm ringing them up. And
Speaker 1: because I'm watching my mom. She didn't, she didn't have
Speaker 1: a retail store, but you know, I'm watching her deal
Speaker 1: with her clients and the people who you know, came
Speaker 1: in for business. And it definitely rubbed off on me
Speaker 1: to the point where I knew that as I got older,
Speaker 1: that I wanted to have a business for myself. And
Speaker 1: I think, you know, you didn't see a lot of
Speaker 1: back then. You didn't see a lot of female business owners,
Speaker 1: especially black female business owners. And so anytime I see
Speaker 1: a female entrepreneur who has grown their business, you know,
Speaker 1: especially from the bottom to to you know, great success.
Speaker 1: You have Camille Rose, the hair care products that are
Speaker 1: sold everywhere. The owner of the founder of that, her
Speaker 1: name is Janelle Stevens. I mean, she has built that
Speaker 1: brand from her kitchen, you know, just making hair products.
Speaker 1: And so for me, women like that really inspire me
Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, okay, like I can do that.
Speaker 1: And so you know, you saw me on the Real
Speaker 1: house host Potomac come up with an idea for satin
Speaker 1: line hats and that was just a natural entrepreneurial idea
Speaker 1: that to me was inspired by watching other women have
Speaker 1: ideas and just go for them. And so always have
Speaker 1: to shout out women who just go for it.
Speaker 3: Yes, and even with what we do, like we're housewives
Speaker 3: and we came, you know, Potomac came, but six years
Speaker 3: after New York and Atlanta and Beverly Hills and OC.
Speaker 3: So I would look at like a candy burst like
Speaker 3: Kenny was so inspirational from a business perspective.
Speaker 2: You know, she's on this housewives show.
Speaker 3: She came in already as a you know, Grammy winning
Speaker 3: singer and just started started like building businesses, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: and it's so inspirational. We look at like Kyle Richards,
Speaker 3: I remember she had all of her stores, even Vicki
Speaker 3: Goldleson you.
Speaker 2: Know with that like insurance company.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that was an industry that you didn't
Speaker 1: see a lot of women in in insurance. And for
Speaker 1: her to own the agency, not just to be an agent,
Speaker 1: that was that was pretty significant and impressive.
Speaker 3: Yes, even you know, in the past we've had we've had,
Speaker 3: you know, things to say about Bethany Frankel, like from
Speaker 3: a business perspective, you know, she started her Skinny Girl,
Speaker 3: she sold the company for a coatrillion dollars and that
Speaker 3: is just inspirational for us coming into the industry also
Speaker 3: housewives and seeing what we can do to benefit us
Speaker 3: from a business perspective outside of what we're doing on
Speaker 3: the show. And you know, I've actually talked to Candy about,
Speaker 3: you know, off camera, about her being truly inspirational, especially
Speaker 3: the black women, you know, and Candy like does it
Speaker 3: all she like had the bed broke Candy she oh
Speaker 3: my gosh, Kady Cody lights, yes, and it all worked
Speaker 3: and now she has like all the restaurants and you know,
Speaker 3: she she took that platform and she made it.
Speaker 2: Work for her businesses, which is respectable.
Speaker 1: Right, And it's inspirational not just to us as housewives,
Speaker 1: but to women viewers who are watching the show and
Speaker 1: they're saying they're seeing, Okay, I can reach for other things.
Speaker 1: I can do other things. There are other opportunities out
Speaker 1: there for me. I can make things happen for myself. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think that's one of the beauties of us being
Speaker 1: on reality TV and taking risks and showing our lives
Speaker 1: and really just doing things and sharing it with people,
Speaker 1: is that we are able to influence and inspire other
Speaker 1: people and give them ideas. I mean, I've i know,
Speaker 1: you know, just from the business that I start that
Speaker 1: people saw me start on the show. I've had people
Speaker 1: reach out like you know, how do you start? Where
Speaker 1: do you go? And it's just great for people to
Speaker 1: actually see like, no, this is this is something that
Speaker 1: you can really do yourself, and if you really, really,
Speaker 1: really really put the time and effort and energy into it,
Speaker 1: you can build it into something amazing. Along the lines
Speaker 1: of entertainment, I want to talk about women in sports,
Speaker 1: particularly in male dominated sports. So we now are seeing
Speaker 1: more and more women on the sidelines in the NFL,
Speaker 1: the NBA particularly, There's a woman named Sandra Douglas Morgan
Speaker 1: who was in the past few years appointed to be
Speaker 1: the president of the Oakland Raiders in the NFL. So
Speaker 1: she is the first, yes, the first black female team
Speaker 1: president in the NFL. And that's major because in the NFL, yes,
Speaker 1: I mean for a long time, t is only white
Speaker 1: men that dominate the NFL. Or if there is a
Speaker 1: woman involved, it's because it was passed down in her family,
Speaker 1: or she married into it, or it was her father's
Speaker 1: team or something like that. And so to see a
Speaker 1: woman in the front office the president of the Oakland Raiders,
Speaker 1: that is amazing. A couple other women who have done
Speaker 1: amazing things that women typically haven't done in sports. Lamar
Speaker 1: Jackson is a you know, the best quarterback in the
Speaker 1: world from the Baltimore Ravens. Instead of hiring an agent,
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson hired his mother to negotiate his contract. Yeah,
Speaker 1: no way, yes, m So. Her name is Felicia Jones.
Speaker 1: And he held out, Like with the Ravens, he was
Speaker 1: up for a new contract, and they held pretty firm
Speaker 1: for a long time, and he was able to get
Speaker 1: a five year, two hundred and sixty million dollar contract,
Speaker 1: and he put his trust in his mother, Wow to
Speaker 1: help him negotiate his contract. Another female agent who helped
Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts get at the time, it was like historically
Speaker 1: the largest contract extension in the NFL. Her name is Nicolelon.
Speaker 1: She is one of my sorority sisters. She's a Delta.
Speaker 1: She helped Jalen sign a two hundred and fifty five
Speaker 1: million dollar contract. And so those are rooms, Yes, those
Speaker 1: are rooms that women were never in, like you never
Speaker 1: heard of anything, especially to that degree. And so I
Speaker 1: love seeing stuff like that because women love sports too,
Speaker 1: and women can make good decisions for sports teams, and
Speaker 1: we don't have to only work in women's sports. We
Speaker 1: can we can be great contributors to men's sports. And
Speaker 1: you know, I'm grateful that some of these teams and
Speaker 1: these athletes are putting their trust women. I've actually seen
Speaker 1: female coaches on the men's side as well. I think
Speaker 1: there's a female.
Speaker 2: Works with the commanders.
Speaker 1: I believe yes, on the computer staff basketball. There is
Speaker 1: a female on like the Wizard's staff. I think she
Speaker 1: was a player, so she was like she played in
Speaker 1: the w NBA Christy Tolliver and then they let her,
Speaker 1: you know, coach during the NBA season. So it's I mean,
Speaker 1: the sky is really the limit for women. But we
Speaker 1: still are facing a huge pay gap gender inequality. But
Speaker 1: you know, we're getting there. We're getting there.
Speaker 3: I want to tell like the good old boys, like
Speaker 3: the the the rooms that are filled with nothing but
Speaker 3: all white men.
Speaker 2: Aren't y'all tied of talking to each other? Aren't y'all
Speaker 2: tired thinking the same? Aren't y'all tied.
Speaker 3: Having the same dumb ass conversation like don't you want
Speaker 3: a different perspective? Don't you want to be able to
Speaker 3: know what like the other gender that you actually live
Speaker 3: this life with is thinking.
Speaker 2: Like wouldn't you want that? Wouldn't you want the diversity?
Speaker 2: Wouldn't you want the other walks of life?
Speaker 3: I don't understand why they are so hell bent about
Speaker 3: not letting anybody else in.
Speaker 2: It's sad.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the easy answer is it's
Speaker 1: a power thing. They want to just maintain power. But
Speaker 1: I think the smart thing would be to realize women
Speaker 1: are huge decision makers in their household. They drive the economy,
Speaker 1: and so it would be behoove everyone to involve women
Speaker 1: in the decision making process because we're actually going to
Speaker 1: make sure that things are done right the first time,
Speaker 1: and that it's inclusive, and that it's you know, attractive,
Speaker 1: all of that type of stuff. And so I'm not
Speaker 1: sure want to take away anything from any men, but
Speaker 1: to think that they can do everything without women's contributions,
Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous. And like I said, if not only
Speaker 1: in politics, but across the board, if women were in
Speaker 1: positions of power or leadership, not just in politics, but
Speaker 1: business and whatever else and entertainment, I think we would
Speaker 1: be further, much further along in all of those industries.
Speaker 2: So what one hundred percent?
Speaker 3: But I mean, look how long it took to get
Speaker 3: any woman in the White House.
Speaker 2: Any woman?
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it took I don't what, two hundred thousand years.
Speaker 3: You know, we appreciate you sys you got the weight
Speaker 3: of the world shoulder, but like it and it was
Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like Joe had his backup against
Speaker 3: the wall when he decided to make a woman his
Speaker 3: running mate, Like he didn't have a choice in the issue.
Speaker 3: I think Jill like them up in the closet and
Speaker 3: it's like, this is what you don't do, right, you
Speaker 3: don't do the women. But like they thought for.
Speaker 2: That, like it, you know, it's nice.
Speaker 3: It makes me feel a sense of comfort when I
Speaker 3: know that we're being represented and decisions that affect the country. Yes,
Speaker 3: women's thoughts.
Speaker 2: Just at the table, right, like let us let us
Speaker 2: it's okay men, it's okay, right.
Speaker 1: And it's not just because we're making decisions for things
Speaker 1: that pertain to women, like women's reproductive rights and all
Speaker 1: of that type of stuff, like yes, but it's it's
Speaker 1: across the board, like no, we need to contribute everywhere
Speaker 1: in every every segment, technology, infrastructure, whatever, business. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just but but to think that there are men
Speaker 1: making decisions for women in our bodies and all of that,
Speaker 1: that's just that's listen.
Speaker 3: One of the reasons why I started every year was
Speaker 3: because men make make.
Speaker 1: Up right for women.
Speaker 2: Right, I don't know what the hell you're doing.
Speaker 3: Think God Finity came along because you know, at least
Speaker 3: we know that Rihanna is you know us, and she
Speaker 3: understands our skin and she's a woman and she gets it,
Speaker 3: but like men should not have any say really in
Speaker 3: things that's pain to women.
Speaker 2: Do you have a male gynecologist.
Speaker 1: Or female female? Of course? Yeah, of course yes.
Speaker 3: I don't want a man down there looking at them stuff, right,
Speaker 3: if I have cramps or if I'm not feeling well
Speaker 3: going through my pregnancy, all of that. Like she understands
Speaker 3: what I'm what I'm feeling, she understands what I'm thinking.
Speaker 2: And she could be my advocate.
Speaker 1: But think about I mean, I know when I was younger,
Speaker 1: I really didn't know if many female gynecologists, And just
Speaker 1: think of so think about how far we've come in
Speaker 1: that field. It was because the medical field was dominated
Speaker 1: by men, and so men could get into the gynecological
Speaker 1: field because it wasn't that many women in the medical
Speaker 1: field period, which was insane, but no, it was we
Speaker 1: were I was blessed, my mom was blessed to have
Speaker 1: a female gynecologist, and I just you know, went to her,
Speaker 1: and all of my gynocologists have been females. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: saw a post on Instagram recently. It was like a
Speaker 1: tweet and some man, I think he was a politician,
Speaker 1: said something about birth control is not a healthcare expense
Speaker 1: and a woman responded to his tweet, like, birth control
Speaker 1: helps control my hormone issues, you dim with, so it
Speaker 1: is a health expense, Like it is related to my health.
Speaker 1: It's not just about preventing me from getting pregnant like
Speaker 1: it actually is. Like so, it's just like men are
Speaker 1: just making they're they're making statements and they're making decisions
Speaker 1: based on stuff there aren't even informed about. And that's
Speaker 1: just wrong. And that's why we need to continue to
Speaker 1: address the inequality, the gender inequality everywhere. And that's why
Speaker 1: women need to continue to do what they're doing, and
Speaker 1: we need to continue to inspire, and we hope all
Speaker 1: the young ladies that come after us are watching and
Speaker 1: being motivated to act.
Speaker 3: Funny story about your you went to the gnecologists of
Speaker 3: your mom's So the lady that helped deliver my children,
Speaker 3: they have started to go to her as they're gone college.
Speaker 1: Wow.
Speaker 3: Yes, So I'm like, so I told her, I'm like,
Speaker 3: at some point in time, you have to retire, right,
Speaker 3: please don't retire on my kids watch.
Speaker 2: So you might have to like be rolling yourself in
Speaker 2: here when you're like one hundred and.
Speaker 1: Two, right, I mean, that is like a very intimate
Speaker 1: person in your life.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, will just bounce from.
Speaker 1: Colleges to colleges.
Speaker 2: Yes, for sure.
Speaker 1: I did have one. Oh I hated it. I was
Speaker 1: in Toronto, Wan was playing for the Toronto Raptors and
Speaker 1: I was pregnant with Corey and I ended up having
Speaker 1: to go to a It was the only gynocologists really
Speaker 1: up there because they have like free healthcare and so
Speaker 1: things were a little bit different. So it was a
Speaker 1: male gynocologist that I went to because for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: I couldn't find a female and I was so uncomfortable.
Speaker 1: It was I was just like, oh no, like I
Speaker 1: don't want to do this, and like, luckily he was
Speaker 1: traded before Corey was delivered and I just came back
Speaker 1: home to my female gynecologist, thank god.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh no, I don't want this,
Speaker 1: and I'm not.
Speaker 2: I don't you know.
Speaker 1: I know a lot of male gynecologists make a living,
Speaker 1: so I'm not trying to discourage anyone, but it's just
Speaker 1: good to have that option to go to a female
Speaker 1: when you're dealing with your reproductive health.
Speaker 3: Yes, and they need to get paid the same Oh okay,
Speaker 3: absolutely so do you feel like there's any other woman
Speaker 3: in your life that like stands out as like somebody
Speaker 3: that has mentored you or helped you through.
Speaker 2: I don't know anything.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially I'm thinking, you know, you were an NBA wife,
Speaker 3: and that is like a lot to navigate. I think
Speaker 3: of Charise, like, I'm sure Charise was like very very
Speaker 3: motherly and mentory to you.
Speaker 1: I feel like in the NBA you have wives who
Speaker 1: it's hard to have your own career if your husband
Speaker 1: is a professional athlete because the husbands, you know, aren't
Speaker 1: in the same city all the time. Like you might
Speaker 1: be in your playing city for eight months out of
Speaker 1: the year and then you go back to your home
Speaker 1: base for four months out of the year, and then
Speaker 1: you might get traded to another city. So it's really
Speaker 1: hard to establish, you know, any type of career or
Speaker 1: business when you're a professional athlete's wife. So I was
Speaker 1: always inspired by the ones who I saw who actually
Speaker 1: had their own business or had their own career despite
Speaker 1: their husband being a professional athlete. So a lot of
Speaker 1: women would get into real estate, you know, because you
Speaker 1: can kind of take that wherever. There would be some
Speaker 1: women who would be teachers, you know, back then you
Speaker 1: still didn't see a whole lot of like entrepreneurs or
Speaker 1: business owners as far as like e commerce and stuff.
Speaker 1: But you know, now, I think if I was, if
Speaker 1: one was in the NBA today and we're in the
Speaker 1: same situation, I would probably establish some sort of e
Speaker 1: commerce business that you know, where you can just sell
Speaker 1: from wherever. But I was fortunate to work for my
Speaker 1: friend Abba Klile, who has a prestigious successful PR firm
Speaker 1: in DC, and we would do PR an event and
Speaker 1: I was able to work remotely. This is actually like
Speaker 1: the first time even I even realized you could do
Speaker 1: stuff like this, so I would work. I was living
Speaker 1: in Portland, Oregon, working remotely on events that ABBA's clients
Speaker 1: were having in DC. So like De Beer's was doing
Speaker 1: a grand opening, what another jewelry store, like we were
Speaker 1: planning really big, nice events, and so working for Abba,
Speaker 1: just watching her work, watching her schmoons. Her business is
Speaker 1: called TAAPR an a male dominated industry in DC, and
Speaker 1: she's an African woman, so a white male dominated industry
Speaker 1: in DC. She's a black African African woman who had
Speaker 1: a very successful PR business. Being able to work for
Speaker 1: her and seeing her navigate that industry with such class
Speaker 1: and such like great execution. I mean her her services
Speaker 1: top notch, her business, her events are top notch. Her
Speaker 1: clients got what they needed out of the PR you know,
Speaker 1: for the in the PR world from her. That always
Speaker 1: inspired me just to see how she was able to
Speaker 1: navigate like such a conservative town in being a black
Speaker 1: African woman.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I love, I love, and I love you know,
Speaker 3: she's always just like a great resource. But yeah, I
Speaker 3: never I never thought about I mean obviously, I know,
Speaker 3: obviously I know she's a black woman, but I never
Speaker 3: thought about how that industry is so male dominated, white
Speaker 3: male dominated.
Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, I.
Speaker 1: Don't be like our inspirational sister up the the I mean,
Speaker 1: her clients ranged like a high end designer Carolina Herrera
Speaker 1: and I said, De Beer's and now she's working with
Speaker 1: the top chefs of the world, the Gordon Ramsey's and
Speaker 1: the Philip Chow and you know, any new restaurant that
Speaker 1: comes to d C, the high end restaurant, that's her
Speaker 1: client almost And so to see her just do what
Speaker 1: she does and look, I always say like, once I'm
Speaker 1: finished with Housewives, I'll just go back and work for
Speaker 1: Alba because I actually I was working for her. Season one.
Speaker 1: It was a lot, like we had so many grand
Speaker 1: openings going on. And then season two we started filming.
Speaker 1: It was like two weeks into filming, I was like,
Speaker 1: I have to quit my job because I just didn't
Speaker 1: have the time to devote to our clients and to
Speaker 1: film until I had to quit. And so you know,
Speaker 1: I always I have an open I always have a
Speaker 1: job waiting for me to go back to.
Speaker 2: Because you know, I want you to give me like
Speaker 2: into the into the restaurant opening.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you give me a reservation?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: No, I mean it's just been like such inspiration and
Speaker 1: a blessing to watch an actual friend, a close friend,
Speaker 1: build her business and be one of the top pr
Speaker 1: agencies in the city of DC.
Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it.
Speaker 3: When I first got married and you know, I married
Speaker 3: a pastor and I didn't know what on earth I
Speaker 3: was doing, and I was like throw thrown into like
Speaker 3: the world of first Lady and whatever that means for
Speaker 3: a mega church. I just remember like there were you know,
Speaker 3: I always had like Jamal's mom, you know, married to
Speaker 3: Jamal's dad, who was a big time bishop at the time.
Speaker 3: There's always just women that knew like I'm struggling, help me.
Speaker 3: There's like Patrice Ellis who's married to Bishop Neil Ellis.
Speaker 3: She's She's been a face to me, like even to
Speaker 3: this day, Elaine Flake, Joanne Browning, like they would always
Speaker 3: give me love, check on me and just like make
Speaker 3: sure that I was okay.
Speaker 2: And we just kind of check on in with each
Speaker 2: other because.
Speaker 3: It's actually sometimes very difficult to be a woman in
Speaker 3: this country and every now and again, we just need
Speaker 3: to check on each other so that you know, that
Speaker 3: is my advice to all of us, like check on
Speaker 3: each other.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And you know a lot of women
Speaker 1: look at each other as competitions, so you know, or
Speaker 1: they don't want to see another woman in their lane
Speaker 1: doing better than them. And so but I think the
Speaker 1: only way we really win is if we encourage one another,
Speaker 1: we support one another, we lift one another up, we
Speaker 1: share our resources with one another. I mean, there's room
Speaker 1: for everyone to eat.
Speaker 3: Everybody. Yeah, everybody. We're going to get out of here,
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Speaker 3: We are just excited because we're able to honor incredible
Speaker 3: women at the network and worldwide, and we are.
Speaker 2: Happy to uplift women any time, any day.
Speaker 1: Yes, and although International Women's Day is Friday, March eighth,
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