1 00:00:00,760 --> 00:00:04,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Reasonably Shady, a production of The Black Effect 2 00:00:04,440 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: Podcast Network and iHeartRadio. 3 00:00:15,000 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 2: Welcome to another episode of Reasonably Shady. I am josellbe Bryant. 4 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:22,160 Speaker 1: What's up? What's up? Everyone? This is Robin Dixon. Thank 5 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:24,720 Speaker 1: you for being here with us once again. We appreciate 6 00:00:24,760 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: you as always. 7 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:28,720 Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, and we're like super excited. 8 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:29,520 Speaker 2: First of all, it's March. 9 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 3: Hello, March okay, And March is like actually Robin's month 10 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 3: again because it's her birthday month, so let's. 11 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:37,519 Speaker 1: Get hearn that. 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,080 Speaker 3: And I'm taking Robin out whether she wants to go 13 00:00:41,120 --> 00:00:42,600 Speaker 3: and not even if I have to kidnap you, like 14 00:00:42,680 --> 00:00:44,360 Speaker 3: pick you up, throw you over my shoulder. 15 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: We're going out for your birthday. Oh my god. 16 00:00:46,320 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: I have to start mentally preparing because this so this 17 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: is like a it's like, you know, semi milestone birthday. 18 00:00:53,159 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: I'll be turning forty five. 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 3: Forty five, forty five, this is amazing. Same to me, 20 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 3: we celebrating bribing. 21 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: So I'm just like, okay, do I have to like 22 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: what do I need to do? It's also the month 23 00:01:07,200 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: of March is my parents' fiftieth wedding anniversary. Wow, which 24 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:17,759 Speaker 1: I'm like I haven't planned anything surrounding that either, So 25 00:01:18,360 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: we got a lot to do. 26 00:01:19,160 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 2: Missy. 27 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:21,920 Speaker 1: We're all just like really low key, like we just 28 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 1: don't do you think I just spent you know that? 29 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 1: But I'm saying my parents as well, like we're just like, 30 00:01:27,560 --> 00:01:30,880 Speaker 1: you know, we just don't do like huge celebrations all 31 00:01:30,880 --> 00:01:33,560 Speaker 1: the time. But I think fifty years of being married. 32 00:01:34,760 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 3: Listen, you spend fifty years with with some shoes or 33 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 3: a purse, it is time for some acknowledgement. 34 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:43,320 Speaker 2: Okay, right, fifty year is is a long time. 35 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,679 Speaker 1: Right, Oh my god, speaking of spending years with shoes 36 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:51,720 Speaker 1: and purses. I just I have been purging my closet, yeah, 37 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: for a few months now because I actually built a 38 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: new closet in my house. I turned one of my 39 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: guest bedrooms into a closet. But I have got rid 40 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: of so much stuff, Like it's so crazy how much 41 00:02:04,240 --> 00:02:05,120 Speaker 1: we accumulate. 42 00:02:06,120 --> 00:02:07,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, don't you feel good about it? 43 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:10,920 Speaker 1: I do, because it's like, I mean, bags and bags 44 00:02:10,919 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: and bags of clothes and shoes and handbags. And I'm 45 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 1: just like, why do we accumulate so much stuff? Why? 46 00:02:21,200 --> 00:02:21,799 Speaker 2: I don't know. 47 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:24,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, so how often do you purge. 48 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 3: When I just feel like my closet is getting overrun. 49 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, maybe like twice a year. 50 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:32,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, do you have shoes that you've had for like 51 00:02:32,760 --> 00:02:35,040 Speaker 1: longer than ten years? Yeah? 52 00:02:35,080 --> 00:02:35,399 Speaker 2: I do? 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, I mean I have. There's still some shoes 54 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:42,280 Speaker 1: and bags and stuff that I can't depart with that 55 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:47,800 Speaker 1: I've had for probably damn near twenty years almost. But 56 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: then there's somewhere it's just like you think about how 57 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:55,560 Speaker 1: much money you paid for them. They were designer whatever 58 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: at the time, and it's like you almost get mad 59 00:02:58,440 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: at yourself, like I can't believe I paid much for 60 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,440 Speaker 1: these shoes and I wore them twice and they've been 61 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:05,720 Speaker 1: in my closet for ten years or however long, Like 62 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 1: this is ridiculous. It's just so I've been going through 63 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:11,840 Speaker 1: a lot of that emotionally, just letting go of stuff 64 00:03:11,840 --> 00:03:14,200 Speaker 1: that I'm like, I spent a lot of money on it, 65 00:03:14,280 --> 00:03:17,359 Speaker 1: but I haven't worn it, and it's got to go. 66 00:03:18,520 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: Let it go. 67 00:03:19,440 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 3: The exciting part about today is that it's International Women's Day. 68 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,640 Speaker 3: Today is not the day, but it is happening reasonably. 69 00:03:27,680 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 3: Shady is so excited that we're able to like honor 70 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 3: women like, uh yeah, that's what we need to be doing, 71 00:03:35,200 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 3: honoring some women and you know my shady moment, because 72 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: that's how we always start this episode, has to do 73 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 3: it little women call my children? 74 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 1: What did they do this time? 75 00:03:51,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: First of all, they're like money in their little car 76 00:03:57,120 --> 00:04:01,840 Speaker 3: that they call stink bug. The all change light was on, okay, 77 00:04:02,160 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 3: so I was like, okay, guys, I'll take it in 78 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 3: not a. 79 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,480 Speaker 2: Rout, I take it. And this car is rather old. 80 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 3: Right, and they're like, oh man, you we can change 81 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: the oil for you. But the oil is leaking into 82 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:19,600 Speaker 3: the oil pan and you know, engine transmission. 83 00:04:18,920 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 2: It's this, it's that. So I was like, what does 84 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,279 Speaker 2: that mean to me? 85 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:25,840 Speaker 3: And so they were like we I think we need 86 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: to like handle this problem okay, which was going to 87 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,839 Speaker 3: cost thousands of dollars. 88 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 2: Okay, let's just start there. 89 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: But I'd rather my kids be safe than sorry. Yeah, 90 00:04:39,400 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 3: so just handle it, they said. 91 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:44,680 Speaker 2: Cool. I go to the little people. 92 00:04:44,720 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 3: I live with the little women, and I say, hey, 93 00:04:47,400 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 3: your car is not gonna be ready for two more days. 94 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:50,120 Speaker 2: Okay. 95 00:04:51,720 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 3: They fell out like they were like actually like it 96 00:04:56,640 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 3: was an atomic bomb. 97 00:04:57,839 --> 00:05:00,480 Speaker 2: Their hands were on their heads. There was screaming at 98 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: the top of their lawns. 99 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:06,080 Speaker 3: They were like no, just were like going nuts, like Mommy, 100 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: why didn't you why did you do this to us? 101 00:05:08,480 --> 00:05:08,520 Speaker 1: What? 102 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:12,720 Speaker 2: And I'm like what They were like like. 103 00:05:12,920 --> 00:05:15,839 Speaker 3: You're supposed to fix all problems, like ma, like why 104 00:05:15,839 --> 00:05:17,720 Speaker 3: would they need the car for two days? 105 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 2: What? 106 00:05:18,640 --> 00:05:18,839 Speaker 1: What? 107 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:24,800 Speaker 3: So Robin I dropped that stupid stink bug off on Thursday. Yeah, 108 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:29,400 Speaker 3: Monday it was still in there. Yeah, And they said 109 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:30,520 Speaker 3: they didn't know when it was. 110 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: Going to be done. 111 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 2: Right. 112 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,640 Speaker 3: I keep forwarding the text message that they send me. 113 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 3: I send to them and for whatever reason, it's my fuck. 114 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 3: And so I'm like, girls, let's be clear, I'm spending 115 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,160 Speaker 3: thousands of dollars on this stupid car that y'all call stinker, right, 116 00:05:44,400 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 3: so deal with the fact that y'all need to be 117 00:05:46,440 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 3: appreciative number one. Number two, if you don't. 118 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,880 Speaker 1: Have a car for five minutes, calm down, be Okay, 119 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:54,360 Speaker 1: that's what Uber's for. 120 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,719 Speaker 3: So Uber your ants around town? Okay, are they working? 121 00:05:57,960 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 3: So that's what they said, Well, we're babysity and we 122 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,720 Speaker 3: need the car, and you know, a door does the 123 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 3: cross now and she's trying out for the team, not 124 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:06,440 Speaker 3: that she's not going to make it, and she's like, 125 00:06:06,480 --> 00:06:07,440 Speaker 3: I have things to do. 126 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:11,200 Speaker 2: This is such an inconvenience and mommy, why why would 127 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 2: this happen? Why? 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 1: But they've only been driving this car for how long? 129 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 1: They act like? Right? 130 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 2: Five minutes? Okay, So these little women need to get. 131 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: It together, right, Oh my god. Yeah, they have it 132 00:06:26,440 --> 00:06:28,479 Speaker 3: back now, thank god. But I was just like I 133 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 3: couldn't believe their reaction. They just like lost it. 134 00:06:31,600 --> 00:06:34,360 Speaker 1: So would you because I know, like you went out 135 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: of town recently, would you let them drive your car 136 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:38,240 Speaker 1: while you're out of town? 137 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 2: No, they don't. 138 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 3: They actually didn't want to drive my car because they 139 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 3: feel like it's too big and they would definitely wreck it. Okay, 140 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 3: So they're fearful to drive my car, which is creat Okay. 141 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,479 Speaker 3: They will wait for sick buck to be back and 142 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:50,880 Speaker 3: stride again, okay, Okay. 143 00:06:51,160 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, they wanted to put a band aid on it, 144 00:06:53,120 --> 00:06:54,800 Speaker 1: and then the band aid would all off and the 145 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: thing would fall apart. 146 00:06:57,200 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: Now, but everybody relaxed, calm down, it's okay, Okay. 147 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: So there are some women that I want we need 148 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 3: to talk about, especially when it comes to. 149 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,000 Speaker 2: Contributions that they. 150 00:07:09,880 --> 00:07:13,800 Speaker 3: Have done in science and in math and there's like 151 00:07:13,840 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 3: some bad ass women out here, and. 152 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:17,840 Speaker 2: I feel like they don't get their duke, Robbin. They 153 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:19,880 Speaker 2: do not get their duke right. 154 00:07:20,240 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 3: The next time, Robin, that you use your navigation in 155 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 3: your car or any navigation software like Google Maps, you 156 00:07:28,480 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 3: can thank doctor Gladys West, who is actually a black woman. 157 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:39,080 Speaker 3: He's the inventor of GPS technology. Gladys West. Now have 158 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 3: you ever heard that name before? Have you ever like 159 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,720 Speaker 3: nos that ever been on radar? Like if we don't 160 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: have navigation, we're scrossing. 161 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,400 Speaker 1: Right, And I'm just thinking of how significant that invention 162 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,800 Speaker 1: and convenience is because you think back in the days 163 00:07:53,840 --> 00:07:57,960 Speaker 1: when you had to pull out the paper map and 164 00:07:58,040 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, write down where you were going first. I 165 00:08:00,920 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: think when I started driving, that was when like map 166 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:10,600 Speaker 1: quests was useful. So was she? Did she contribute to 167 00:08:10,680 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: the map quest stage or more to like what's on 168 00:08:13,400 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 1: our smartphones and in our vehicles now? 169 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 2: I think what's in our vehicles now? 170 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 3: Because she help invent software like Google Maps, So Google 171 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,240 Speaker 3: Maps is kind of like what's what we use today. 172 00:08:26,400 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, she's the inventor of GPS technology. 173 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 3: Like, right, every day, I use my GPS tech every day, 174 00:08:34,679 --> 00:08:37,239 Speaker 3: every time I get in the car, So thank you, Gladdys. 175 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 1: Yes, I mean it's amazing. It's like don't you wonder 176 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: how that works because it's like where it shows you 177 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: the traffic. I use it every day too, even if 178 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:46,080 Speaker 1: I know where I'm going, because I want to see 179 00:08:46,080 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 1: what the traffic is like. And that's just yes, So 180 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: that's even amazing. It's just you can you can get 181 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,959 Speaker 1: to your destination but also get to it in the 182 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:58,520 Speaker 1: quickest way possible. That's yeah. No, Gladys is the bomb. 183 00:08:58,640 --> 00:09:00,920 Speaker 1: I would love to like, I would love to know 184 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:04,440 Speaker 1: more about her, you know what I'm saying, like where 185 00:09:04,440 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: does she go to college? And what was Like how 186 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,000 Speaker 1: does she get in this field? I always think when 187 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,840 Speaker 1: you think about technology, you don't see a lot of 188 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:16,400 Speaker 1: women in the technology field, Like how did she get there? 189 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,120 Speaker 3: Maybe she got in there kicking and screaming, or maybe 190 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: she got in there because somebody, you know, realized that 191 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 3: without her technology, they had. 192 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: To let her in. 193 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,760 Speaker 3: I don't know her back story, but like even with 194 00:09:27,800 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: the ladies from Hidny Figures. 195 00:09:29,000 --> 00:09:30,480 Speaker 2: Do you remember that? Do you remember that movie? 196 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: Yeah? 197 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 3: Absolutely, those ladies NASA did not want to use their knowledge. 198 00:09:37,240 --> 00:09:39,920 Speaker 3: They didn't want to respect the fact that they had 199 00:09:39,960 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 3: the knowledge. They didn't want any parts of these black women, 200 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:47,440 Speaker 3: but because they were so bad what they were doing, 201 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 3: they had to acknowledge them. 202 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: They had to give them the job. 203 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:55,439 Speaker 3: They had to find a bathroom for them to use 204 00:09:55,720 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 3: as they're at work doing their job. Like all that 205 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,640 Speaker 3: kind of stuff is insanity. My dad worked for NASSHA, yeah, 206 00:10:02,080 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 3: and he was just like. 207 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, these women were real. Harry Dorothy was one of them. 208 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,599 Speaker 3: And Barack Obama gave the Congressional Gold Medal, which is 209 00:10:10,640 --> 00:10:16,559 Speaker 3: the highest honor presented by Congress to a civilian, to Darden, 210 00:10:16,679 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 3: who was at that time she was seventy seven and 211 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 3: she's now the only living hidden figure. This was back 212 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:25,880 Speaker 3: in twenty twenty. I'm not sure now there was Catherine Johnson, 213 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:29,960 Speaker 3: all of these ladies. I can't even what's crazy is 214 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:33,160 Speaker 3: I can't even like put my finger on how smart 215 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:34,320 Speaker 3: they are because it's. 216 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: Like space aviation, yeah, like all of it. 217 00:10:38,800 --> 00:10:41,959 Speaker 1: It's just like, uh uh it is mind blowing, right. 218 00:10:42,120 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 1: We can't even wrap our head around the just what 219 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:49,040 Speaker 1: they had to learn in order to do what they do. 220 00:10:49,240 --> 00:10:52,400 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm you know, I worry about putting makeup 221 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:56,240 Speaker 1: on and you know, oh, let me watch a makeup tutorial. Meanwhile, 222 00:10:56,760 --> 00:11:00,800 Speaker 1: you have you know, women like this who you know. 223 00:11:00,840 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 1: It's like you wonder like what inspired them to get 224 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,959 Speaker 1: into the field, but also just how does your brain 225 00:11:06,040 --> 00:11:11,280 Speaker 1: work to even comprehend what is going on and then 226 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:14,240 Speaker 1: to make advancements in the field. It's crazy. I mean, 227 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:17,400 Speaker 1: it's just and I thought I was a smart math student, 228 00:11:17,520 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: but there's no way I can grasp what they learned. 229 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:24,520 Speaker 1: So your father was very familiar with them, Yes, yes, absolutely, 230 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,520 Speaker 1: that's awesome. In the movie was never made, we would 231 00:11:28,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: still never know about them, right, Yeah. 232 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 2: That's the sad part. Yeah. 233 00:11:33,679 --> 00:11:40,520 Speaker 3: I think women are the most underrated people walking. I 234 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: think that forever and still to this day. The fact 235 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,000 Speaker 3: that we are paid pennies on the dollar to what 236 00:11:47,080 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 3: men are paid for the same job is an absurdity, 237 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:54,480 Speaker 3: I think, you know, when I look at because there's 238 00:11:54,480 --> 00:11:57,319 Speaker 3: there's some women that talk out talk about it publicly. 239 00:11:57,640 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 3: You know, there's I know, Gabrielle Union from the entertainment industry, 240 00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: Reese Witherspoon, Viola Davis. 241 00:12:05,080 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: They speak publicly about like, look, this is just not fair. 242 00:12:09,480 --> 00:12:12,400 Speaker 3: I read something that it's going to take a century, 243 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 3: a century, Robin for us to be equally paid. 244 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:22,959 Speaker 2: With the rate we're going as men. And I have daughters, so. 245 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 1: It's kind of like why yeah. 246 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: Yeah in the black women, like, you know, we can't 247 00:12:30,040 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 3: get if women. If white women are eighty five cents 248 00:12:34,520 --> 00:12:36,079 Speaker 3: on a dollar, we're like. 249 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:41,080 Speaker 1: Sixty sixty yeah, right, So the gender pay gap. White 250 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: women earned eighty two cents for every dollar a man makes, 251 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 1: African American women earned sixty cents, and Latina's earned fifty 252 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: five cents for every dollar earned by white non Hispanic men. 253 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,199 Speaker 1: And the additionally, only eight eight percent of fortunate five 254 00:12:58,280 --> 00:13:01,160 Speaker 1: hundred CEOs are women. And it's so crazy because women 255 00:13:01,240 --> 00:13:05,840 Speaker 1: are just so brilliant. There were geniuses, we're hard workers, 256 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: we're no nonsense, and this disparity still exists, which is insane. 257 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,120 Speaker 2: And it's like, we are proven to be smarter. We're 258 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: smarter than men. I ain't no question about smarter than men. 259 00:13:18,840 --> 00:13:23,000 Speaker 1: Can you imagine can you imagine if women actually were 260 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: in power politically, you know, President President, you know, imagine that. 261 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:33,520 Speaker 1: Imagine how beautiful our country would be. We would not 262 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 1: be this delighted. 263 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 3: We would have beautiful flowers planted all over the place. 264 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 3: We have beautiful trees. There would be peace and be peace. 265 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 3: Everybody would be eating. Education would be through the roof. 266 00:13:45,559 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 1: Like. 267 00:13:45,720 --> 00:13:51,960 Speaker 2: Think about all because typically teachers are more women than men. 268 00:13:53,000 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. 269 00:13:54,080 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 3: Think about if they were paid properly, right, let's pay them. 270 00:13:58,280 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 2: Come on, y'all, we got to do right. 271 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,840 Speaker 3: There's so many people that you know, I always want 272 00:14:02,880 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 3: to give a shout out anytime I talk about like women, 273 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,560 Speaker 3: I always want to give a shout obviously to my mom, 274 00:14:06,640 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 3: who was you know, huge role model and example in 275 00:14:10,880 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 3: my life. 276 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:15,599 Speaker 2: She always pushed me to be the best that I 277 00:14:15,600 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 2: could possibly. 278 00:14:16,360 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 3: Be, always affirmed that the sky's the limit, that there's 279 00:14:20,520 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 3: nothing that I should ever be scared of or that 280 00:14:24,920 --> 00:14:27,400 Speaker 3: should ever let stop me from getting anything that I 281 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,720 Speaker 3: wanted to do. And I appreciate that and that I 282 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 3: have instilled in my daughters. And you know, I probably 283 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:38,720 Speaker 3: instilled it too much because these these girls do just 284 00:14:38,760 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 3: think tell them anything. 285 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 2: But you need like strong women in your life. 286 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:47,560 Speaker 3: Listen, my mom, every every day, Robin and I did 287 00:14:47,600 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 3: not pick this up as a mother, but every day 288 00:14:51,080 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 3: there was food on the table. She have a hot, 289 00:14:54,960 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: fresh meal that was like not a repeat for like 290 00:14:59,440 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 3: thirty days, right, and. 291 00:15:01,680 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 2: Now that I am a mother, that is like phenomenal. 292 00:15:03,960 --> 00:15:06,440 Speaker 1: It is like it is. 293 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,840 Speaker 3: She made sure we always ate together as a family, right, 294 00:15:09,040 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 3: Like that is still so much character and self worth 295 00:15:13,880 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 3: and value in me that I didn't appreciate it at 296 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 3: the time, of course, but that's not. 297 00:15:18,480 --> 00:15:20,320 Speaker 2: The point, Like it was amazing. 298 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: Right of course. Of course if with my mom, I 299 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:29,280 Speaker 1: always admired watching her be an entrepreneur, and I think 300 00:15:29,320 --> 00:15:31,880 Speaker 1: a lot of that rubbed off on me because I 301 00:15:31,920 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: would sit and watch her work, and you know, my 302 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 1: play time, especially by myself, would be to like pretend 303 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:42,720 Speaker 1: like I owned a store, and so like everything, I 304 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: would put a price tag on everything, and I have 305 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,640 Speaker 1: my little pretend customers and I'm ringing them up. And 306 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: because I'm watching my mom. She didn't, she didn't have 307 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 1: a retail store, but you know, I'm watching her deal 308 00:15:53,240 --> 00:15:56,160 Speaker 1: with her clients and the people who you know, came 309 00:15:56,200 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: in for business. And it definitely rubbed off on me 310 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: to the point where I knew that as I got older, 311 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,160 Speaker 1: that I wanted to have a business for myself. And 312 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: I think, you know, you didn't see a lot of 313 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: back then. You didn't see a lot of female business owners, 314 00:16:13,360 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 1: especially black female business owners. And so anytime I see 315 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: a female entrepreneur who has grown their business, you know, 316 00:16:22,560 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: especially from the bottom to to you know, great success. 317 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: You have Camille Rose, the hair care products that are 318 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:37,000 Speaker 1: sold everywhere. The owner of the founder of that, her 319 00:16:37,080 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: name is Janelle Stevens. I mean, she has built that 320 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:44,200 Speaker 1: brand from her kitchen, you know, just making hair products. 321 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 1: And so for me, women like that really inspire me 322 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 1: because I'm like, oh, okay, like I can do that. 323 00:16:50,520 --> 00:16:52,720 Speaker 1: And so you know, you saw me on the Real 324 00:16:52,760 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 1: house host Potomac come up with an idea for satin 325 00:16:55,040 --> 00:17:01,240 Speaker 1: line hats and that was just a natural entrepreneurial idea 326 00:17:01,520 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 1: that to me was inspired by watching other women have 327 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:09,159 Speaker 1: ideas and just go for them. And so always have 328 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:10,959 Speaker 1: to shout out women who just go for it. 329 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 3: Yes, and even with what we do, like we're housewives 330 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:19,720 Speaker 3: and we came, you know, Potomac came, but six years 331 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 3: after New York and Atlanta and Beverly Hills and OC. 332 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:30,439 Speaker 3: So I would look at like a candy burst like 333 00:17:31,400 --> 00:17:35,080 Speaker 3: Kenny was so inspirational from a business perspective. 334 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 2: You know, she's on this housewives show. 335 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:41,240 Speaker 3: She came in already as a you know, Grammy winning 336 00:17:42,359 --> 00:17:49,440 Speaker 3: singer and just started started like building businesses, right, yeah, 337 00:17:49,480 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 3: and it's so inspirational. We look at like Kyle Richards, 338 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 3: I remember she had all of her stores, even Vicki 339 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,120 Speaker 3: Goldleson you. 340 00:17:57,040 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: Know with that like insurance company. 341 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, and that was an industry that you didn't 342 00:18:01,320 --> 00:18:03,199 Speaker 1: see a lot of women in in insurance. And for 343 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,800 Speaker 1: her to own the agency, not just to be an agent, 344 00:18:06,400 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: that was that was pretty significant and impressive. 345 00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:13,680 Speaker 3: Yes, even you know, in the past we've had we've had, 346 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,640 Speaker 3: you know, things to say about Bethany Frankel, like from 347 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:20,160 Speaker 3: a business perspective, you know, she started her Skinny Girl, 348 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 3: she sold the company for a coatrillion dollars and that 349 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 3: is just inspirational for us coming into the industry also 350 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:35,160 Speaker 3: housewives and seeing what we can do to benefit us 351 00:18:35,160 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 3: from a business perspective outside of what we're doing on 352 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,719 Speaker 3: the show. And you know, I've actually talked to Candy about, 353 00:18:43,560 --> 00:18:49,359 Speaker 3: you know, off camera, about her being truly inspirational, especially 354 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:52,119 Speaker 3: the black women, you know, and Candy like does it 355 00:18:52,160 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 3: all she like had the bed broke Candy she oh 356 00:18:55,040 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 3: my gosh, Kady Cody lights, yes, and it all worked 357 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:02,800 Speaker 3: and now she has like all the restaurants and you know, 358 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 3: she she took that platform and she made it. 359 00:19:07,040 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 2: Work for her businesses, which is respectable. 360 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:12,520 Speaker 1: Right, And it's inspirational not just to us as housewives, 361 00:19:12,520 --> 00:19:15,639 Speaker 1: but to women viewers who are watching the show and 362 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:21,080 Speaker 1: they're saying they're seeing, Okay, I can reach for other things. 363 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: I can do other things. There are other opportunities out 364 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:28,280 Speaker 1: there for me. I can make things happen for myself. Yeah. 365 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the beauties of us being 366 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:36,920 Speaker 1: on reality TV and taking risks and showing our lives 367 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,920 Speaker 1: and really just doing things and sharing it with people, 368 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: is that we are able to influence and inspire other 369 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: people and give them ideas. I mean, I've i know, 370 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: you know, just from the business that I start that 371 00:19:51,480 --> 00:19:54,000 Speaker 1: people saw me start on the show. I've had people 372 00:19:54,040 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: reach out like you know, how do you start? Where 373 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: do you go? And it's just great for people to 374 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: actually see like, no, this is this is something that 375 00:20:03,080 --> 00:20:05,640 Speaker 1: you can really do yourself, and if you really, really, 376 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: really really put the time and effort and energy into it, 377 00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: you can build it into something amazing. Along the lines 378 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: of entertainment, I want to talk about women in sports, 379 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:28,560 Speaker 1: particularly in male dominated sports. So we now are seeing 380 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: more and more women on the sidelines in the NFL, 381 00:20:35,160 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 1: the NBA particularly, There's a woman named Sandra Douglas Morgan 382 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:44,800 Speaker 1: who was in the past few years appointed to be 383 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 1: the president of the Oakland Raiders in the NFL. So 384 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: she is the first, yes, the first black female team 385 00:20:52,760 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: president in the NFL. And that's major because in the NFL, yes, 386 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean for a long time, t is only white 387 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:06,520 Speaker 1: men that dominate the NFL. Or if there is a 388 00:21:06,520 --> 00:21:09,960 Speaker 1: woman involved, it's because it was passed down in her family, 389 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:12,440 Speaker 1: or she married into it, or it was her father's 390 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: team or something like that. And so to see a 391 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,359 Speaker 1: woman in the front office the president of the Oakland Raiders, 392 00:21:19,880 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 1: that is amazing. A couple other women who have done 393 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: amazing things that women typically haven't done in sports. Lamar 394 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: Jackson is a you know, the best quarterback in the 395 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:38,160 Speaker 1: world from the Baltimore Ravens. Instead of hiring an agent, 396 00:21:38,800 --> 00:21:43,160 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson hired his mother to negotiate his contract. Yeah, 397 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 1: no way, yes, m So. Her name is Felicia Jones. 398 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: And he held out, Like with the Ravens, he was 399 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:56,359 Speaker 1: up for a new contract, and they held pretty firm 400 00:21:56,920 --> 00:21:59,200 Speaker 1: for a long time, and he was able to get 401 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,920 Speaker 1: a five year, two hundred and sixty million dollar contract, 402 00:22:01,960 --> 00:22:05,359 Speaker 1: and he put his trust in his mother, Wow to 403 00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:09,080 Speaker 1: help him negotiate his contract. Another female agent who helped 404 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:13,399 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts get at the time, it was like historically 405 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 1: the largest contract extension in the NFL. Her name is Nicolelon. 406 00:22:17,800 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: She is one of my sorority sisters. She's a Delta. 407 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 1: She helped Jalen sign a two hundred and fifty five 408 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: million dollar contract. And so those are rooms, Yes, those 409 00:22:29,359 --> 00:22:35,119 Speaker 1: are rooms that women were never in, like you never 410 00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:38,399 Speaker 1: heard of anything, especially to that degree. And so I 411 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:42,000 Speaker 1: love seeing stuff like that because women love sports too, 412 00:22:42,720 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 1: and women can make good decisions for sports teams, and 413 00:22:46,000 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 1: we don't have to only work in women's sports. We 414 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 1: can we can be great contributors to men's sports. And 415 00:22:55,800 --> 00:22:58,639 Speaker 1: you know, I'm grateful that some of these teams and 416 00:22:58,680 --> 00:23:01,280 Speaker 1: these athletes are putting their trust women. I've actually seen 417 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: female coaches on the men's side as well. I think 418 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:06,359 Speaker 1: there's a female. 419 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:07,680 Speaker 2: Works with the commanders. 420 00:23:07,680 --> 00:23:11,359 Speaker 1: I believe yes, on the computer staff basketball. There is 421 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:15,040 Speaker 1: a female on like the Wizard's staff. I think she 422 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: was a player, so she was like she played in 423 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 1: the w NBA Christy Tolliver and then they let her, 424 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,400 Speaker 1: you know, coach during the NBA season. So it's I mean, 425 00:23:27,640 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 1: the sky is really the limit for women. But we 426 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,960 Speaker 1: still are facing a huge pay gap gender inequality. But 427 00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, we're getting there. We're getting there. 428 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,760 Speaker 3: I want to tell like the good old boys, like 429 00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 3: the the the rooms that are filled with nothing but 430 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: all white men. 431 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 2: Aren't y'all tied of talking to each other? Aren't y'all 432 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,480 Speaker 2: tired thinking the same? Aren't y'all tied. 433 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 3: Having the same dumb ass conversation like don't you want 434 00:23:58,640 --> 00:24:03,159 Speaker 3: a different perspective? Don't you want to be able to 435 00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:07,920 Speaker 3: know what like the other gender that you actually live 436 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:10,760 Speaker 3: this life with is thinking. 437 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: Like wouldn't you want that? Wouldn't you want the diversity? 438 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,160 Speaker 2: Wouldn't you want the other walks of life? 439 00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 3: I don't understand why they are so hell bent about 440 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,359 Speaker 3: not letting anybody else in. 441 00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 2: It's sad. 442 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think the easy answer is it's 443 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: a power thing. They want to just maintain power. But 444 00:24:32,680 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: I think the smart thing would be to realize women 445 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: are huge decision makers in their household. They drive the economy, 446 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: and so it would be behoove everyone to involve women 447 00:24:45,920 --> 00:24:48,200 Speaker 1: in the decision making process because we're actually going to 448 00:24:48,240 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: make sure that things are done right the first time, 449 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 1: and that it's inclusive, and that it's you know, attractive, 450 00:24:57,200 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: all of that type of stuff. And so I'm not 451 00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:03,480 Speaker 1: sure want to take away anything from any men, but 452 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: to think that they can do everything without women's contributions, 453 00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:11,280 Speaker 1: it's just ridiculous. And like I said, if not only 454 00:25:11,280 --> 00:25:14,160 Speaker 1: in politics, but across the board, if women were in 455 00:25:14,560 --> 00:25:19,360 Speaker 1: positions of power or leadership, not just in politics, but 456 00:25:19,880 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: business and whatever else and entertainment, I think we would 457 00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: be further, much further along in all of those industries. 458 00:25:28,680 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 2: So what one hundred percent? 459 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:34,440 Speaker 3: But I mean, look how long it took to get 460 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 3: any woman in the White House. 461 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:38,160 Speaker 2: Any woman? 462 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it took I don't what, two hundred thousand years. 463 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 3: You know, we appreciate you sys you got the weight 464 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:51,239 Speaker 3: of the world shoulder, but like it and it was 465 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,160 Speaker 3: I mean, I feel like Joe had his backup against 466 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 3: the wall when he decided to make a woman his 467 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 3: running mate, Like he didn't have a choice in the issue. 468 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:01,119 Speaker 3: I think Jill like them up in the closet and 469 00:26:01,119 --> 00:26:03,119 Speaker 3: it's like, this is what you don't do, right, you 470 00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 3: don't do the women. But like they thought for. 471 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,000 Speaker 2: That, like it, you know, it's nice. 472 00:26:09,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 3: It makes me feel a sense of comfort when I 473 00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 3: know that we're being represented and decisions that affect the country. Yes, 474 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,200 Speaker 3: women's thoughts. 475 00:26:21,640 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 2: Just at the table, right, like let us let us 476 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 2: it's okay men, it's okay, right. 477 00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:30,640 Speaker 1: And it's not just because we're making decisions for things 478 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:34,119 Speaker 1: that pertain to women, like women's reproductive rights and all 479 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:36,720 Speaker 1: of that type of stuff, like yes, but it's it's 480 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:40,480 Speaker 1: across the board, like no, we need to contribute everywhere 481 00:26:40,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: in every every segment, technology, infrastructure, whatever, business. I mean, 482 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: it's just but but to think that there are men 483 00:26:51,400 --> 00:26:55,120 Speaker 1: making decisions for women in our bodies and all of that, 484 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 1: that's just that's listen. 485 00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:01,439 Speaker 3: One of the reasons why I started every year was 486 00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,920 Speaker 3: because men make make. 487 00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:05,960 Speaker 1: Up right for women. 488 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:08,240 Speaker 2: Right, I don't know what the hell you're doing. 489 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: Think God Finity came along because you know, at least 490 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:13,359 Speaker 3: we know that Rihanna is you know us, and she 491 00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: understands our skin and she's a woman and she gets it, 492 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,320 Speaker 3: but like men should not have any say really in 493 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:23,280 Speaker 3: things that's pain to women. 494 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:26,400 Speaker 2: Do you have a male gynecologist. 495 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:30,160 Speaker 1: Or female female? Of course? Yeah, of course yes. 496 00:27:30,560 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 3: I don't want a man down there looking at them stuff, right, 497 00:27:33,520 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: if I have cramps or if I'm not feeling well 498 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,360 Speaker 3: going through my pregnancy, all of that. Like she understands 499 00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:43,120 Speaker 3: what I'm what I'm feeling, she understands what I'm thinking. 500 00:27:43,280 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 2: And she could be my advocate. 501 00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,040 Speaker 1: But think about I mean, I know when I was younger, 502 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:53,399 Speaker 1: I really didn't know if many female gynecologists, And just 503 00:27:53,560 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: think of so think about how far we've come in 504 00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,720 Speaker 1: that field. It was because the medical field was dominated 505 00:27:59,720 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 1: by men, and so men could get into the gynecological 506 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,640 Speaker 1: field because it wasn't that many women in the medical 507 00:28:05,680 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: field period, which was insane, but no, it was we 508 00:28:09,960 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 1: were I was blessed, my mom was blessed to have 509 00:28:13,440 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 1: a female gynecologist, and I just you know, went to her, 510 00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:19,679 Speaker 1: and all of my gynocologists have been females. Yeah. I 511 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 1: saw a post on Instagram recently. It was like a 512 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:27,159 Speaker 1: tweet and some man, I think he was a politician, 513 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:33,640 Speaker 1: said something about birth control is not a healthcare expense 514 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 1: and a woman responded to his tweet, like, birth control 515 00:28:39,480 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: helps control my hormone issues, you dim with, so it 516 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: is a health expense, Like it is related to my health. 517 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:53,080 Speaker 1: It's not just about preventing me from getting pregnant like 518 00:28:53,160 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: it actually is. Like so, it's just like men are 519 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: just making they're they're making statements and they're making decisions 520 00:28:59,440 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: based on stuff there aren't even informed about. And that's 521 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: just wrong. And that's why we need to continue to 522 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: address the inequality, the gender inequality everywhere. And that's why 523 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:14,719 Speaker 1: women need to continue to do what they're doing, and 524 00:29:14,760 --> 00:29:18,000 Speaker 1: we need to continue to inspire, and we hope all 525 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:21,239 Speaker 1: the young ladies that come after us are watching and 526 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 1: being motivated to act. 527 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,960 Speaker 3: Funny story about your you went to the gnecologists of 528 00:29:28,040 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 3: your mom's So the lady that helped deliver my children, 529 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 3: they have started to go to her as they're gone college. 530 00:29:37,240 --> 00:29:37,480 Speaker 1: Wow. 531 00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: Yes, So I'm like, so I told her, I'm like, 532 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,600 Speaker 3: at some point in time, you have to retire, right, 533 00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 3: please don't retire on my kids watch. 534 00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 2: So you might have to like be rolling yourself in 535 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 2: here when you're like one hundred and. 536 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: Two, right, I mean, that is like a very intimate 537 00:29:54,120 --> 00:29:55,120 Speaker 1: person in your life. 538 00:29:55,400 --> 00:29:58,240 Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, Like, will just bounce from. 539 00:29:58,520 --> 00:29:59,840 Speaker 1: Colleges to colleges. 540 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:01,800 Speaker 2: Yes, for sure. 541 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: I did have one. Oh I hated it. I was 542 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: in Toronto, Wan was playing for the Toronto Raptors and 543 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: I was pregnant with Corey and I ended up having 544 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 1: to go to a It was the only gynocologists really 545 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,760 Speaker 1: up there because they have like free healthcare and so 546 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,600 Speaker 1: things were a little bit different. So it was a 547 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,680 Speaker 1: male gynocologist that I went to because for whatever reason, 548 00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,440 Speaker 1: I couldn't find a female and I was so uncomfortable. 549 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 1: It was I was just like, oh no, like I 550 00:30:32,320 --> 00:30:34,959 Speaker 1: don't want to do this, and like, luckily he was 551 00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,280 Speaker 1: traded before Corey was delivered and I just came back 552 00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: home to my female gynecologist, thank god. 553 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:42,000 Speaker 2: Right. 554 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440 Speaker 1: Yeah, I was like, oh no, I don't want this, 555 00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: and I'm not. 556 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: I don't you know. 557 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: I know a lot of male gynecologists make a living, 558 00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:52,400 Speaker 1: so I'm not trying to discourage anyone, but it's just 559 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,840 Speaker 1: good to have that option to go to a female 560 00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:57,680 Speaker 1: when you're dealing with your reproductive health. 561 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 3: Yes, and they need to get paid the same Oh okay, 562 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,720 Speaker 3: absolutely so do you feel like there's any other woman 563 00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:08,280 Speaker 3: in your life that like stands out as like somebody 564 00:31:08,280 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 3: that has mentored you or helped you through. 565 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 2: I don't know anything. 566 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:19,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, especially I'm thinking, you know, you were an NBA wife, 567 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 3: and that is like a lot to navigate. I think 568 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,280 Speaker 3: of Charise, like, I'm sure Charise was like very very 569 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:29,800 Speaker 3: motherly and mentory to you. 570 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: I feel like in the NBA you have wives who 571 00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: it's hard to have your own career if your husband 572 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: is a professional athlete because the husbands, you know, aren't 573 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,600 Speaker 1: in the same city all the time. Like you might 574 00:31:45,680 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: be in your playing city for eight months out of 575 00:31:48,960 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: the year and then you go back to your home 576 00:31:50,680 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: base for four months out of the year, and then 577 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,560 Speaker 1: you might get traded to another city. So it's really 578 00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:58,760 Speaker 1: hard to establish, you know, any type of career or 579 00:31:58,800 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: business when you're a professional athlete's wife. So I was 580 00:32:04,400 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: always inspired by the ones who I saw who actually 581 00:32:09,280 --> 00:32:13,240 Speaker 1: had their own business or had their own career despite 582 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: their husband being a professional athlete. So a lot of 583 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:18,600 Speaker 1: women would get into real estate, you know, because you 584 00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,800 Speaker 1: can kind of take that wherever. There would be some 585 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,440 Speaker 1: women who would be teachers, you know, back then you 586 00:32:25,480 --> 00:32:28,320 Speaker 1: still didn't see a whole lot of like entrepreneurs or 587 00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: business owners as far as like e commerce and stuff. 588 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:34,440 Speaker 1: But you know, now, I think if I was, if 589 00:32:34,520 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 1: one was in the NBA today and we're in the 590 00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: same situation, I would probably establish some sort of e 591 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:43,440 Speaker 1: commerce business that you know, where you can just sell 592 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: from wherever. But I was fortunate to work for my 593 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:56,760 Speaker 1: friend Abba Klile, who has a prestigious successful PR firm 594 00:32:56,840 --> 00:33:01,360 Speaker 1: in DC, and we would do PR an event and 595 00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,920 Speaker 1: I was able to work remotely. This is actually like 596 00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: the first time even I even realized you could do 597 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:08,800 Speaker 1: stuff like this, so I would work. I was living 598 00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:14,000 Speaker 1: in Portland, Oregon, working remotely on events that ABBA's clients 599 00:33:14,000 --> 00:33:16,840 Speaker 1: were having in DC. So like De Beer's was doing 600 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:22,120 Speaker 1: a grand opening, what another jewelry store, like we were 601 00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:28,080 Speaker 1: planning really big, nice events, and so working for Abba, 602 00:33:28,760 --> 00:33:32,080 Speaker 1: just watching her work, watching her schmoons. Her business is 603 00:33:32,080 --> 00:33:39,520 Speaker 1: called TAAPR an a male dominated industry in DC, and 604 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 1: she's an African woman, so a white male dominated industry 605 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:47,520 Speaker 1: in DC. She's a black African African woman who had 606 00:33:47,520 --> 00:33:51,880 Speaker 1: a very successful PR business. Being able to work for 607 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:59,080 Speaker 1: her and seeing her navigate that industry with such class 608 00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:04,760 Speaker 1: and such like great execution. I mean her her services 609 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,320 Speaker 1: top notch, her business, her events are top notch. Her 610 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 1: clients got what they needed out of the PR you know, 611 00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:14,480 Speaker 1: for the in the PR world from her. That always 612 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: inspired me just to see how she was able to 613 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: navigate like such a conservative town in being a black 614 00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:23,760 Speaker 1: African woman. 615 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, I love, I love, and I love you know, 616 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:31,880 Speaker 3: she's always just like a great resource. But yeah, I 617 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:34,680 Speaker 3: never I never thought about I mean obviously, I know, 618 00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:36,279 Speaker 3: obviously I know she's a black woman, but I never 619 00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:40,799 Speaker 3: thought about how that industry is so male dominated, white 620 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 3: male dominated. 621 00:34:41,880 --> 00:34:43,680 Speaker 2: So yeah, okay, I. 622 00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:47,120 Speaker 1: Don't be like our inspirational sister up the the I mean, 623 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,840 Speaker 1: her clients ranged like a high end designer Carolina Herrera 624 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 1: and I said, De Beer's and now she's working with 625 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:59,759 Speaker 1: the top chefs of the world, the Gordon Ramsey's and 626 00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:04,440 Speaker 1: the Philip Chow and you know, any new restaurant that 627 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: comes to d C, the high end restaurant, that's her 628 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:12,080 Speaker 1: client almost And so to see her just do what 629 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: she does and look, I always say like, once I'm 630 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,160 Speaker 1: finished with Housewives, I'll just go back and work for 631 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:22,839 Speaker 1: Alba because I actually I was working for her. Season one. 632 00:35:24,080 --> 00:35:26,640 Speaker 1: It was a lot, like we had so many grand 633 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:31,960 Speaker 1: openings going on. And then season two we started filming. 634 00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,480 Speaker 1: It was like two weeks into filming, I was like, 635 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:36,760 Speaker 1: I have to quit my job because I just didn't 636 00:35:36,760 --> 00:35:40,920 Speaker 1: have the time to devote to our clients and to 637 00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: film until I had to quit. And so you know, 638 00:35:43,560 --> 00:35:45,799 Speaker 1: I always I have an open I always have a 639 00:35:45,880 --> 00:35:48,759 Speaker 1: job waiting for me to go back to. 640 00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:50,759 Speaker 2: Because you know, I want you to give me like 641 00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 2: into the into the restaurant opening. 642 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:55,000 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, can you give me a reservation? 643 00:35:55,840 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 3: Yeah? 644 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:59,920 Speaker 1: No, I mean it's just been like such inspiration and 645 00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,600 Speaker 1: a blessing to watch an actual friend, a close friend, 646 00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:05,280 Speaker 1: build her business and be one of the top pr 647 00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:07,520 Speaker 1: agencies in the city of DC. 648 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 2: So yeah, I love it. 649 00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:12,360 Speaker 3: When I first got married and you know, I married 650 00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 3: a pastor and I didn't know what on earth I 651 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:19,279 Speaker 3: was doing, and I was like throw thrown into like 652 00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:21,960 Speaker 3: the world of first Lady and whatever that means for 653 00:36:22,040 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 3: a mega church. I just remember like there were you know, 654 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 3: I always had like Jamal's mom, you know, married to 655 00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:31,719 Speaker 3: Jamal's dad, who was a big time bishop at the time. 656 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 3: There's always just women that knew like I'm struggling, help me. 657 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 3: There's like Patrice Ellis who's married to Bishop Neil Ellis. 658 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 3: She's She's been a face to me, like even to 659 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:47,800 Speaker 3: this day, Elaine Flake, Joanne Browning, like they would always 660 00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: give me love, check on me and just like make 661 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,480 Speaker 3: sure that I was okay. 662 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:56,960 Speaker 2: And we just kind of check on in with each 663 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 2: other because. 664 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:03,440 Speaker 3: It's actually sometimes very difficult to be a woman in 665 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:07,040 Speaker 3: this country and every now and again, we just need 666 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,840 Speaker 3: to check on each other so that you know, that 667 00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 3: is my advice to all of us, like check on 668 00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 3: each other. 669 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree. And you know a lot of women 670 00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,120 Speaker 1: look at each other as competitions, so you know, or 671 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: they don't want to see another woman in their lane 672 00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: doing better than them. And so but I think the 673 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: only way we really win is if we encourage one another, 674 00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,440 Speaker 1: we support one another, we lift one another up, we 675 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: share our resources with one another. I mean, there's room 676 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:34,879 Speaker 1: for everyone to eat. 677 00:37:35,080 --> 00:37:38,080 Speaker 3: Everybody. Yeah, everybody. We're going to get out of here, 678 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:42,200 Speaker 3: but reasonably. Shady is celebrating International Women's Day this week. 679 00:37:42,360 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 3: We are just excited because we're able to honor incredible 680 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:48,880 Speaker 3: women at the network and worldwide, and we are. 681 00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 2: Happy to uplift women any time, any day. 682 00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: Yes, and although International Women's Day is Friday, March eighth, 683 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,440 Speaker 1: every day should be International Women's So make sure you 684 00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:03,400 Speaker 1: are doing what you can to honor the women in 685 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,080 Speaker 1: your life, the women that inspire you, and to push 686 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,440 Speaker 1: women's initiatives in to close that paygap. 687 00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 3: Yes, so I don't forget to live your life either 688 00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 3: reasonable or shady and be the best woman you can't be. 689 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,839 Speaker 1: Yes or women's supporter all right, bye or both. Ye. 690 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,160 Speaker 1: We mentioned it all throughout today's show, but the team 691 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:32,360 Speaker 1: here at Reasonably Shady is celebrating International Women's Day this week. 692 00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:36,160 Speaker 1: For more programming honoring the incredible women at the network 693 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 1: and worldwide, head over to iHeart Podcasts International Women's Day 694 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,520 Speaker 1: feed by searching Women Take the Mic. Wherever you look 695 00:38:43,560 --> 00:38:47,360 Speaker 1: for podcasts, We're featured alongside great shows like Angela Ye's 696 00:38:47,360 --> 00:38:51,120 Speaker 1: Lip Service, Very Special Episodes with Danis Schwartz, and more. 697 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:54,520 Speaker 1: That's Women Take the Mic on the iHeartRadio app or 698 00:38:54,520 --> 00:39:06,240 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts