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Speaker 1: Welcome into another edition of Jaguars Reporters. In his Tuesday

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Speaker 1: Week four coming up, we'll look ahead to the Falcons

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Speaker 1: Jaguars game at Wimbley in London, the first of back

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Speaker 1: to back games for the Jaguars in the UK. But

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Speaker 1: the first part of this podcast, by the way, JP Shadwick,

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Speaker 1: Kai Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Oser to the Jaguars Reporters,

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Speaker 1: hence the name we review week three. The Texans came

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Speaker 1: in here and knocked off the Jaguars thirty seven seventeen,

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Speaker 1: and we heard from Doug Peterson on Monday and seemed

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Speaker 1: a little more collected than he was after the game. Kai,

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Speaker 1: he didn't have any answers Sunday afternoon and into the

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Speaker 1: evening just and you could tell by the tone that

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Speaker 1: he was just so almost aghast at what had happened.

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Speaker 1: I don't think he had been around a performance like

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Speaker 1: that before, and just trying to make sense of where

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Speaker 1: this team is right now. But what did you just

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Speaker 1: see moving forward from Doug on Monday?

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Speaker 2: Well, I was with Doug on Sunday where I was like,

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Speaker 2: I don't think I've seen anything that looked quite like

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Speaker 2: that either, because it was all phases of the game. Normally,

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Speaker 2: if you lose a football game, it's one or two things,

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Speaker 2: not offense, defense and special teams, making errors, mental mistakes, drops,

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Speaker 2: just physical mistakes, penalties, dumb penalties, and I think I'm

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Speaker 2: assuming I'm not going to speak for Doug himself, but

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Speaker 2: when you look at the tape, I would find some

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Speaker 2: solace in the fact that you're doing this to yourself.

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Speaker 2: I don't think you're going out there with a roster

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Speaker 2: that's not good enough and you're just getting out worked.

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of the mistakes and the problems

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Speaker 2: are what you are doing, so in that regard, at

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Speaker 2: least one would think once you identify them, you should

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Speaker 2: be able to fix them.

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Speaker 3: You ever been in your pantry and you reach up

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Speaker 3: for a can and you knock over a can, that

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Speaker 3: knocks over the rice, that knocks over the pancake mix,

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Speaker 3: and everything comes falling down at you and you're trying

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Speaker 3: to catch it all at once. That must be what

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Speaker 3: it feels like to be the Jaguars head coach right now?

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Speaker 4: What's your home life cover?

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Speaker 3: I've had that moment where you reach for something you

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Speaker 3: think this is gonna be really easy. I thought the

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Speaker 3: Texans game should be easy for them, and all of

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Speaker 3: a sudden, now you're trying to catch things like how

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Speaker 3: did this happen?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 3: That must be what it must feel like at times

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Speaker 3: for Doug this week, because you know, last week you're

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Speaker 3: trying to get your offense started, and this week it's

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Speaker 3: not just the offense it's coming at you. It's the

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Speaker 3: defensive problems and special teams on top of it. I mean,

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Speaker 3: it's like, please stop, someone to help me pick this up.

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Speaker 6: It sounds like he was optimistic and liked what he

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Speaker 6: heard from players after the game when he.

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Speaker 5: Talked to him.

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Speaker 6: I don't know that he had talked to as many

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Speaker 6: It certainly sounded like he liked their tone and their

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Speaker 6: knows this is a big week. I mean, games like

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Speaker 6: last Sundays can be watershed moments in the wrong direction.

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Speaker 6: Doug's really good historically at guy teams through this. He

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Speaker 6: did it last year. I mean, this was not a

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Speaker 6: good team for the first eight weeks, and he kept

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Speaker 6: staying in the course. This felt different than that, and

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Speaker 6: he said it on Monday. You don't usually have games

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Speaker 6: and I think this is where you're glad to have

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: The last year, the first half, I mean, they were

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Speaker 1: in those games, he had fourth quarter leads and lost

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Speaker 1: to him. It wasn't like they were getting their doors

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Speaker 1: blown off on all three phases like they did on Sunday.

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Speaker 1: So that's the different feel of this thing, at least

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Speaker 1: so far. And you know, it's almost uncharted water for

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Speaker 1: Doug Peterson and we'll see if the players can respond

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Speaker 1: this week. I mean the thing that turned the game

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Speaker 1: obviously was the kickoff return. Yeah, and they were right

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Speaker 5: All right, Well.

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Speaker 1: That happened, and I don't know if I've seen one

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Speaker 3: While I was texting with a former special teams coach

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Speaker 3: and I asked him, have you seen that before? And

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Speaker 3: he said, well, with a caveat of if you're in

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Speaker 3: seen that before, And he said, it's easy to see

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Speaker 3: why it happened because you have guys who are racing

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Speaker 3: containment and you let a guy JP at two hundred

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Speaker 3: the end zone for an eighty five yard touchdown. No,

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Speaker 3: I've never seen anything like that before. And at that moment,

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Speaker 3: I said, they're not winning this ball game. If that happens,

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Speaker 6: Well, I say it's a game of inches and moments

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Speaker 6: for a reason. And I think we all felt as

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Speaker 6: poorly as we're talking about this team playing, and it

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Speaker 6: played awfully in the first half.

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Speaker 4: Doug when he was.

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Speaker 6: Talking of this, made clear that was a good kick

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Speaker 4: It hit at the right spot, it got the result

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Speaker 6: It was chaos by the Texans for a minute, and

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Speaker 6: in that moment you felt like if Jaguars recover this

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Speaker 6: or it felt like momentum Jaguars had they stopped them there.

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Speaker 6: Don't you feel like this is a fourth quarter game, sure,

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Speaker 6: And so I mean that's where it's such a game

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Speaker 5: But it didn't.

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Speaker 6: I wish I had more alo on those lines. But

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Speaker 6: you know, Trevor after the game really summed it up.

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Speaker 6: You can't always depend on being able to come back

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Speaker 6: like they did last year, and that showed you why

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Speaker 6: when you're down one little thing that goes against you

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Speaker 2: You can't put yourself in that position, which is what

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Speaker 2: Trevor kind of alluded to. We put ourselves in that

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Speaker 2: at that point. For special teams. For me, a lot

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Speaker 2: like it's discipline at a certain level too, right, because

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Speaker 2: how much of special teams is you know, you're trying

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Speaker 2: you've got to stay where you're supposed to be. And

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Speaker 2: I understand that there's that instinct of seeing the football

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Speaker 5: Well, And covered teams have been pretty good around here.

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Speaker 2: They've been great, and I think that's true. That's true

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Speaker 2: as well. They you know, turned the tide in that

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Speaker 2: you know, forcing a turnover against the Chiefs that unfortunately

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Speaker 2: they recovered that funk. So like they've been doing great

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Speaker 2: and they're smart and they understand that. I think that

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Speaker 2: that's just makes it so much more frustrating because you're like,

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Speaker 2: you're smart, don't do dumb things.

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Speaker 3: Agnew might be the best example right now. Here's three

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Speaker 3: fumbles in his last four games, and those fumbles all

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Speaker 3: came at critical moments in the ball game. You talk

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Speaker 3: We all know what he's capable of doing. He won

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Speaker 3: the game, as far as I'm concerned in Indianapolis with

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Speaker 3: his you know, forty six yard punt return. Here's a

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Speaker 3: trying to get ahead of Kansas City feeling the heat,

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Speaker 3: and then you know, yesterday you got the ball and

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Speaker 3: you're in a perfect spot to at least get a

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Speaker 1: He had both arms on it. He took a heck

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Speaker 1: of a look either way. I don't know what he

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Speaker 5: Sometimes it doesn't work for you.

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Speaker 3: But he's If I use any player as an example

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Speaker 3: of trying to make a play, I think of him.

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Speaker 1: By the way, Andrew Beck, the fullback, started his career

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Speaker 5: He should have seen his la and.

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Speaker 1: He had fourteen catches in the NFL in his career

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Speaker 1: before yesterday.

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Speaker 4: And good for Andrew.

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Speaker 5: He had a big smile, a big cheesy smile.

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Speaker 4: I don't blame him.

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Speaker 5: I would do.

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Speaker 4: Why wouldn't you be a I bet he did all right.

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Speaker 4: It has a great time over there.

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Speaker 5: I wasn't.

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Speaker 6: Hey.

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Speaker 1: Let's get to this Jaguars defense this past week and

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Speaker 1: the lack of pass rush on CJ. Stroud. You know,

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Speaker 1: going into the game, obviously nineteen hits eleven sacks in

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Speaker 1: two weeks on Stroud. The Jaguars had four quarterback hits,

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Speaker 1: zero sacks of Stroud. And he showed poise in the

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Speaker 1: or slide or buy a little extra time to make

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Speaker 1: a completion. And on the big third down play Late

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Speaker 1: and they convert the first down on a long pass.

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Speaker 1: I mean, how much of that is rush? How much

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Speaker 1: of that is Stroud in the line? I mean that

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Speaker 1: was obviously the one that really got dug after the

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Speaker 1: game John when like the eight second delay, when he

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Speaker 1: was thinking about how to answer it.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, and I took that more that he's trying to

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Speaker 6: make sure that. Like when I was asked in multiple

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Speaker 6: emails last night about the pass rush, I kept going back, Well,

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Speaker 6: the pass rush wasn't good, but you know, join the party,

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Speaker 6: what was you know, So to pick out the pass

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Speaker 6: rush out of that game, Yeah, the pass rush wasn't good,

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Speaker 6: but you know, the pass rush wasn't dropping balls in

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Speaker 6: the first half, wasn't missing field goals, etc. So I

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Speaker 6: think it was really collective. And my sense was that

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Speaker 6: was why Dougs sort of had that long delay. It

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Speaker 6: was like, look, the past rust wasn't good on Sunday,

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Speaker 6: but it hadn't been bad the first two games. The

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Speaker 6: fan base really wants to hang the pass rust because

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Speaker 6: that's been such a narrative, so we have to wait

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Speaker 6: to see if that's going to be all season.

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Speaker 4: But it was not good on Sunday.

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Speaker 3: So here's where I disagree slightly. That was an offensive

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Speaker 3: so incredibly confident that the Jaguars would win yesterday was

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Speaker 3: up the first two weeks in terms of being hit

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Speaker 6: Well, I thought his answer to your question JP was

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Speaker 1: a moment and a preview. Week four. The Falcons and

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Speaker 1: Jaguars coming up. This is Jaguars Reporters. Welcome back to

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars Reporters podcast. JP Shaddock, Ryan Sexson, John Osher,

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Speaker 1: Kay Stevens. The Falcons and the Jaguars coming up at

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Speaker 1: Wimbley Stadium, London. The Jaguars have not won a game

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Speaker 1: They played at Tottenham Hot Square Stadium in twenty twenty one,

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Speaker 2: Kai, I guess what This will be a turning point,

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Speaker 3: The You know, Desmond Ritter was under some scrutiny. The Falconans,

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Speaker 4: You always have to be concerned.

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Speaker 6: But if we're sitting in here every Monday breaking down

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Speaker 6: That's what you sawt to worry about with his offense

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Speaker 1: The Dolphins hit home runs on a lot of plays

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Speaker 6: were eight shy of the record or somebody you know, so.

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Speaker 5: Up yards they were three of points.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, then it's impressive.

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Speaker 5: It's amazing.

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Speaker 1: One of these days, maybe the Jaguars offense will at

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Speaker 1: least get closer to that direction than they were the

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Speaker 1: last two weeks. It's a tough schedule coming up, of

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Speaker 1: course at Wimbley. The Falcons game this Sunday, two weeks

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Speaker 1: at TOTTENHAMNT Spurs Stadium in Northeast London. It is the

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Speaker 1: Bills playing host of the Jaguars. Then it's back home

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Speaker 1: in Jacksonville against the Colts, who will want to redo

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Speaker 1: of the first game, who.

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Speaker 5: Lead the division bay the way and might have Jonathan Taylor.

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Speaker 1: And then it's a short week to New Orleans right

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Speaker 1: today Thursday night football, and those are really tough.

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Speaker 5: On the road.

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Speaker 4: It's pro football, Jake po time.

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Speaker 1: They're all hard. Some are harder than most, but they're

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Speaker 1: all hard.

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Speaker 3: His team needs to stop making it difficult on themselves.

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Speaker 5: They're making it harder on themselves last two weeks than

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Speaker 5: they need to within missus got to settle down and

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Speaker 5: don't make it hard that it has to be.

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Speaker 1: Let's see if they can get on track at Wimbley.

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Speaker 1: Ty Stevens, Brian Sexton, John Ozer, I'm JP Shadwick. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for listening to Jaguars reported