1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:04,280 Speaker 1: It's time to get inside the Giants Huttle on giants 2 00:00:04,320 --> 00:00:10,160 Speaker 1: dot com the Giants of the Giants podcast Network. Welcome 3 00:00:10,200 --> 00:00:12,760 Speaker 1: to the news edition of the Giant Hubtle Podcast. I 4 00:00:12,800 --> 00:00:15,440 Speaker 1: am John Schmelk. As the Giants get ready to take 5 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: their trip to London to take on the Packers, I 6 00:00:18,239 --> 00:00:20,080 Speaker 1: figured I want to get a little bit of flavor 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: of where the Giants are headed. For that, we're gonna 8 00:00:22,360 --> 00:00:24,880 Speaker 1: be joined by a couple of guys from the Irish 9 00:00:24,960 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 1: NFL Show, a podcast that originates out there in the UK. 10 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:31,320 Speaker 1: Brian O'Leary joins us first, is one of his partners. 11 00:00:31,320 --> 00:00:33,160 Speaker 1: More Cocker will join us about halfway to the show 12 00:00:33,159 --> 00:00:36,000 Speaker 1: to go around the league. But Brian's a longtime Giant fan, 13 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,160 Speaker 1: as you can see from the jacket, and I figure 14 00:00:38,159 --> 00:00:40,519 Speaker 1: knowing better than to, you know, talk some Giants football 15 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: with him before he gets started. Just a reminder of the 16 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 1: the John Suttle Podcast is presented by PSC ANDJ Energy 17 00:00:45,320 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: Efficiency for game time and anytime. Brian, it's good to 18 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 1: talk to you man. I'm gonna be in your neck 19 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,959 Speaker 1: of the woods in a couple of days. Here. I'm excited. Jonason, 20 00:00:54,080 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: it's great to be Richie We spoke briefly in May 21 00:00:57,720 --> 00:01:01,279 Speaker 1: when the initial schedule was released. Time we got confirmation 22 00:01:01,320 --> 00:01:03,920 Speaker 1: in which the Giants were traveling over to face the 23 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:06,800 Speaker 1: Packers this weekend. It's it's a unique game in a 24 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: way because it's the toty second game we played in 25 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,040 Speaker 1: London and Parkers are a torty second team to travel 26 00:01:13,080 --> 00:01:16,319 Speaker 1: the Finally, the set is complete in terms of all 27 00:01:16,400 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 1: thirty two teams playing. And this is the first time 28 00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,720 Speaker 1: in which we've had two teams with a winning record 29 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: coming to London after all these years and the first time. Yeah, 30 00:01:27,800 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: what a crazy stat And I imagine at the start 31 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: of the season, I don't think Giants fans included, I 32 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,040 Speaker 1: don't think many of us would have expected both teams 33 00:01:37,080 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: to be gone there with a winning record. But as 34 00:01:39,200 --> 00:01:42,160 Speaker 1: the force months has progressed, it's been It's been a 35 00:01:42,160 --> 00:01:44,920 Speaker 1: great start for us anyway, Yeah, no question about And 36 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:46,680 Speaker 1: by the way, tell the folks Brian where they can 37 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: find the Irish NFL show that they're interested. Yeah, and 38 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:53,960 Speaker 1: your cinal show came together in drunk Covid in October 39 00:01:54,120 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: two and we've had a fantastic run in terms of 40 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 1: guess me a job. Shane on the show during during 41 00:02:00,720 --> 00:02:03,720 Speaker 1: the summer. We've actually had every team represented on the 42 00:02:03,720 --> 00:02:06,600 Speaker 1: show who are traveling over to to the UK to 43 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:08,640 Speaker 1: play in the games. There's four of us on the 44 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: show too, Broncos fans, a Joints fan and a Patriots 45 00:02:11,880 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: fan who will be joining with shortly and that's what 46 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:17,680 Speaker 1: the nature of the show it is too. We recognized 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 1: that the sport has grown across Ireland, UK and Europe 48 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:24,280 Speaker 1: and we felt that we could put a show on 49 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: each week that would connect with the fans this side 50 00:02:26,680 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: of the world. We do three live shows a week Monday, 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:34,040 Speaker 1: Toursday and Freuday even which we where we preview the 52 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,760 Speaker 1: weekend's games, and we've been fortunately, have some great guests 53 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: on the show throughout the course the eighteen months across 54 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 1: the league, where there's players, coaches, gms, and they recognized 55 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:47,399 Speaker 1: that the harder work we've we've done. We've had great 56 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:49,880 Speaker 1: commitment from the NFL itself. We were forth to be 57 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:54,919 Speaker 1: at the Super Bowl in February media creditations. We've been 58 00:02:54,960 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: to a number of games in the UK with media creditation. 59 00:02:57,960 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: We were there on Sunday for the Vikings Saints, which 60 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: were quite a decent second half not not so much 61 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: a good forest half and the game. We'll be there 62 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: on Sunday doing a life show at Tottenham ahead of 63 00:03:08,600 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 1: us being in the media area. So it's quite a 64 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: whirlwind story for four guys who we're doing separate podcasts 65 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,440 Speaker 1: to kind of amalgamated into one and became the Irish 66 00:03:17,560 --> 00:03:20,280 Speaker 1: NFL show. That's awesome, um, and I want to get 67 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:22,920 Speaker 1: into more of the NFL popularity, you know in the 68 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: UK and Ireland in general, when we get Mark on 69 00:03:25,600 --> 00:03:28,080 Speaker 1: later on in the program. Just a curiosity, Brian, how 70 00:03:28,120 --> 00:03:31,320 Speaker 1: do you become a Giants fan? I'm probably showing my 71 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: age here, but I actually started to sporting the joints 72 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 1: in eighty six, the year in which we went our 73 00:03:36,480 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: force broad against the Broncos. I was fortunate to have 74 00:03:39,840 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 1: a number of holidays state side when I was young. 75 00:03:42,080 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 1: My parents had some Irish friends who moved to the States, 76 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: and since we spend there the remaining years of their 77 00:03:49,280 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: life out there, so we went to a number of 78 00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:53,920 Speaker 1: different locations throughout the course of the years, and I 79 00:03:54,040 --> 00:03:56,520 Speaker 1: just happened to get into the NFL when I was 80 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:59,880 Speaker 1: over there in in the eighties, and as it happened 81 00:03:59,880 --> 00:04:02,000 Speaker 1: to points for having a successful run on the bill 82 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 1: parcels and and it never went away after that and 83 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: continued to support them throughout the years. The coverage trip 84 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: was quite limited early nineties, but it kind of growing then. 85 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:14,320 Speaker 1: The sky Sports through your hear over this stage has 86 00:04:14,640 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: a dedicated NFL channel over here. We've accessed NFL that 87 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:20,160 Speaker 1: we're sensor. We've got all the access to every station 88 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: in which the guys in the States have the fans 89 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:26,040 Speaker 1: of every team. And I've been know to see the 90 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: joints in the old Joint Stadium that knife. I've gone 91 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,280 Speaker 1: a few road games and then obviously the games when 92 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 1: when they come to London, which is a lot more 93 00:04:32,960 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: convenient because you can travel from from where I live 94 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,480 Speaker 1: in Dublin, Ireland to travel to London on Sunday. It's 95 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 1: only fifteen minute fifteen minute flight. And the biggest difficulty 96 00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,160 Speaker 1: us fans decide the world have is is the time 97 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: to um. As you can imagine when you're watching games 98 00:04:48,120 --> 00:04:51,720 Speaker 1: on it on a Sunday. The six o'clocks lay and 99 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: whether we call it the six o'clocks late which is 100 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 1: the one o'clocks lay and the four tows late which 101 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:59,560 Speaker 1: is half nine and even are fine. But if you're 102 00:04:59,640 --> 00:05:02,520 Speaker 1: really passionate and you're you're leading into Sunday night football 103 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:07,920 Speaker 1: where the game commences at one am until four torty 104 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: and then you're trying to get up for work on 105 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: a Monday morning. For me, where as two young children 106 00:05:13,920 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: as well, trying to manage getting them to school. They 107 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 1: can be tough going. But and it is what it is. 108 00:05:19,680 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: It's a passion. It's it's a passion for the sport, 109 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: it's the passion for the joints and I wouldn't change 110 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 1: it for the world. No, it's awesome, it's fantastic. And 111 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:27,840 Speaker 1: trust me, I get it. I have a five month 112 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,920 Speaker 1: old and a five year old at home, so I'm 113 00:05:29,960 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: with you now. Those those mornings are not easy, let 114 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,600 Speaker 1: alone when you're on three hours of sleep. All right, 115 00:05:34,680 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: So let's get into it. You mentioned it, Brian, your 116 00:05:37,160 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: thoughts on the three and one start here pleasantly surprised. 117 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: I think when Joe Shane and Brian Dabel came in 118 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 1: and during the off season, they made it very clear 119 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 1: and I think it was very transparent to the most 120 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: support most fans of the team that there was a 121 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:54,400 Speaker 1: rebuilds that needed to be done. We were left in 122 00:05:54,440 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 1: a you know, a difficult situation cap in terms of 123 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,200 Speaker 1: the cap salary. There's not a work that needed to 124 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,120 Speaker 1: erode at depths there we were unforced and we lost 125 00:06:02,600 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: a good player in James Broadview, for example, because because 126 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: of the salary situation that might be. I think Joe 127 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,640 Speaker 1: Shane has be commended that we've been put in a 128 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,800 Speaker 1: position already where we're we're not necessarily challenging is I 129 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 1: think I think most fans would would recognize that things 130 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:19,039 Speaker 1: are good, but we have a difficult schedule ahead of 131 00:06:19,080 --> 00:06:21,840 Speaker 1: us this weekend the Ravens. Is that are tougher games 132 00:06:21,880 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: to come. But to be in a rebuild and yet 133 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: we're in a position where we're winning games is it 134 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: is very good because we haven't had a lot to 135 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: be uh I supposed happy about over the past four 136 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: or five years. So to be winning games and I 137 00:06:33,839 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 1: recognize we're playing teams, it's h sensely I would imagine 138 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: that at our level, give or take in terms of 139 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 1: the Bears and the Panthers in which we've beaten. The 140 00:06:41,600 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: Titans game was you could argue with a surprise, but 141 00:06:44,120 --> 00:06:46,480 Speaker 1: to some people during the off season the felt the 142 00:06:46,480 --> 00:06:49,080 Speaker 1: Titans we're going to take the slight drop off this season. 143 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: And I think last week as the Cowboys, once we 144 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:54,240 Speaker 1: played reasonably well, I think we found their feet in 145 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: the terms of what's what's going to come when we 146 00:06:56,360 --> 00:06:59,560 Speaker 1: played better teams, but overall and for for what we 147 00:06:59,640 --> 00:07:03,279 Speaker 1: have and in terms of the roster to be winning games, 148 00:07:03,320 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: and it commits. It shows the commitment the players are 149 00:07:07,279 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: shown to vote Brian Dable, Mike Kafka, Wink Martin then 150 00:07:11,160 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 1: and all the coach and staff. It's not just those 151 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:14,600 Speaker 1: three guyses that are guys there in the background, but 152 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,239 Speaker 1: to see and you could recognize it when you watch 153 00:07:18,320 --> 00:07:20,840 Speaker 1: the off season voluntary camps and then when we came 154 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: to training camps, the same kind of tone, same kind 155 00:07:23,560 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 1: of message of coming out for the players, how how 156 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 1: we're enjoying being around this managerial team, both from the 157 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,960 Speaker 1: front office to the two coaching and it's it's it's coming, 158 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:34,080 Speaker 1: it's coming across on the pitch and what's been waiting 159 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: win and a lot of games potentially season. Who knows 160 00:07:37,480 --> 00:07:39,240 Speaker 1: how the season will progress. I think I think every 161 00:07:39,280 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: joints fund recognized that there's a great commitment from all 162 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: the players out there, Yeah, no question about it, and 163 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: the first and foremost offensively Brian I mean, say, go on, 164 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:50,240 Speaker 1: Barkley has been phenomenal. I mean easily the best offensive 165 00:07:50,240 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: player on the team. I mean I haven't gone back 166 00:07:52,480 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: and then the math, but I know for at least 167 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,560 Speaker 1: two of the games he's accounted for half the team's 168 00:07:56,600 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: holy yards and at least two of the four games 169 00:07:59,560 --> 00:08:02,960 Speaker 1: Hissen and his overall impact on the game has just 170 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: been phenomenal. Your thoughts on Sakoon Barkley at his impact 171 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: so far? The Johnny is four hundred and sixty three years, 172 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,720 Speaker 1: He's the leading rusher in the league, and a lot 173 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: of people felt there would be a bounced back this season. 174 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 1: He came out, he was quite vocal. It was kind 175 00:08:15,880 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: of a different, say qualm when he did some of 176 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:19,640 Speaker 1: the press courtners was leading up to the start of 177 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,560 Speaker 1: the season. It was a little bit more vocal than 178 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:23,560 Speaker 1: what we're used to seeing. It seems like a quite 179 00:08:23,560 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: a reserved type of character, but he was kind of 180 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:28,760 Speaker 1: adamant that he was. He was really expecting himself to 181 00:08:28,800 --> 00:08:32,360 Speaker 1: be back and showing the showing the form which we 182 00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:35,839 Speaker 1: saw in his fortune. I think the difference and I 183 00:08:36,040 --> 00:08:39,600 Speaker 1: found is he's he's running between the tackles strong. He's 184 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:42,000 Speaker 1: you know, we used to see him trying to avoid 185 00:08:42,040 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: players and I wouldn't say, you know, kind of take 186 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 1: step back, take you know, take a left, take it right. 187 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,560 Speaker 1: He seems to be very focus in just running between 188 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,120 Speaker 1: the tackles. The offensive line is hasn't proved. Had a 189 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:54,199 Speaker 1: difficult note against Cowboys, but has to be expected when 190 00:08:54,200 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: you're a new offensive line. He's had great help from 191 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 1: them already, and it's it just seems like a different player. 192 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:03,000 Speaker 1: He seems so commits. He's it's very clear that he 193 00:09:03,040 --> 00:09:04,880 Speaker 1: has a great nae for the joints and I think 194 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: he wants to prove to order people outside of the 195 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:09,560 Speaker 1: organization to have to out him during his difficult time 196 00:09:09,600 --> 00:09:13,440 Speaker 1: and once he's had those injuries, Yeah, yeah, no question 197 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:16,080 Speaker 1: about it. And he's been phenomenal. And I think what 198 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,400 Speaker 1: impresses me too is how the Giants, even when it's 199 00:09:19,440 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: not se Kwan Brian getting the yards, especially last week 200 00:09:21,760 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: against Chicago, the threat of Barkley has opened up so 201 00:09:25,600 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 1: much in this offense. All those play ash and boot 202 00:09:27,480 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: legs last week, everything off of play action and I 203 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:31,400 Speaker 1: think you have to tip your cap to the coaching 204 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: staff on the offensive side of the ball too, that 205 00:09:33,640 --> 00:09:36,560 Speaker 1: they've been able to at least be competent and get 206 00:09:36,600 --> 00:09:40,040 Speaker 1: to twenty points a game. Um, given the issues at 207 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 1: wide receiver, some of the protection issues, where Barkley's presence 208 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: has really opened up the game in general. Yeah, I'm 209 00:09:47,200 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: just on Daniel Jones, like we've all known for quite 210 00:09:49,520 --> 00:09:51,960 Speaker 1: some time that when he gets outside in the pocket, 211 00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: he's got the legs to be you know, he should 212 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,840 Speaker 1: be utilized as it in a ruined pass option type scenario, 213 00:09:57,240 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 1: not necessarily seeing them. We are seeing the booteggs. And 214 00:09:59,679 --> 00:10:02,079 Speaker 1: that's for me, is to your point, a lot of 215 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: people that are so focused defensively or so focused on 216 00:10:04,720 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: making sure that they can stop say Jo embarkment, that 217 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:10,120 Speaker 1: these other avenues and opportunities for the team are there, 218 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: such as Daniel on Sunday running into touchdowns. I mean, 219 00:10:13,679 --> 00:10:16,800 Speaker 1: we have seen that at times over the course of 220 00:10:16,800 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: the last three four years, but it hasn't been consistent enough. 221 00:10:18,960 --> 00:10:21,960 Speaker 1: And many a Joints fan has been saying, Daniel Jones 222 00:10:22,000 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: has great speed, He's got you know, he's got the 223 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,960 Speaker 1: ability to be a running quarterback in this league. But yeah, 224 00:10:27,120 --> 00:10:30,720 Speaker 1: we felt he wasn't been mutilized enough. We're seeing very 225 00:10:30,720 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: early on and he's seventy seventy four years last week 226 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:36,920 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, sixty eight on Sunday against against the Bears. 227 00:10:36,960 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: Like their high numbers bearing one for an example, Derrick 228 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,880 Speaker 1: Henry was held at eight two against the Joints in 229 00:10:41,960 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 1: Week one, and we have a quarterback running for similar numbers. Yeah, 230 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: no question about it. And now this week heading into 231 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: the gaming and against the Packers, as we turned the 232 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 1: page here a little bit, we don't know what's gonna 233 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,280 Speaker 1: happen at the quarterback position, you know, as of this recording, 234 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,599 Speaker 1: recording this on Tuesday afternoon. And if you see we 235 00:10:56,640 --> 00:10:57,840 Speaker 1: jump up and down. By the way, I do have 236 00:10:57,840 --> 00:11:00,240 Speaker 1: the Yankee amo out of the background of Artilud sixty too. 237 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: So what everybody ahead of time you've seen me go, ah, 238 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:06,240 Speaker 1: that's why. Um, but uh, you know, it's gonna be 239 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 1: interesting to see what they used to decide whether or 240 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:13,280 Speaker 1: not Jones can play right, because he might be healthy 241 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 1: enough to play, but is he healthy enough to be 242 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: a threat with his legs? And then does that fit 243 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 1: with what they're trying to do in the offense. So 244 00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: I think they're a very tough decision here, Brian. Not 245 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 1: only you know, they'll the doctors at tell him he's 246 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:27,040 Speaker 1: healthy enough to play, but then the coaches out to 247 00:11:27,080 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 1: the side. Can he be mobile enough and move well 248 00:11:29,840 --> 00:11:32,600 Speaker 1: enough for them to execute the game plan with his 249 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,079 Speaker 1: level of health? You know what I mean? Yeah, Well, 250 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: there's an example there already Returnian Jones. I think it 251 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: was two seasons ago when under Joe Judge where we 252 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: played against the Cardinals at home. Haven't come off the 253 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: Bengals road game in which he pulls his hamstream and 254 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 1: he came back, and everybody felt he came back a 255 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:50,240 Speaker 1: little bit too soon, and we understood at the time 256 00:11:50,640 --> 00:11:53,160 Speaker 1: the rationalist to where he wants them to play. But 257 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:55,200 Speaker 1: the offense that day, I think we only scored six 258 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,679 Speaker 1: points and we were well, we were comfortably beating my 259 00:11:58,040 --> 00:12:01,680 Speaker 1: the Cardens, and the offense game plan was completely out 260 00:12:01,720 --> 00:12:04,640 Speaker 1: the window in a sense, because without Jones in a 261 00:12:04,640 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: position to be effective in the wrong game, it takes 262 00:12:07,720 --> 00:12:10,480 Speaker 1: it away a lot. And wherever we are, unfortunately with 263 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,120 Speaker 1: where the receivers at the moment, was the players that 264 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:14,360 Speaker 1: are there are playing really well and you have to 265 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:17,679 Speaker 1: commend them for how good they've they've done. I mean James, 266 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:20,240 Speaker 1: for example, was brought in essentially to be a specialty 267 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,600 Speaker 1: his player. He's now one of our number one receivers 268 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: right now. Kenny Steals was there's been on and off 269 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,000 Speaker 1: the roster for a couple of years. He's cemented himself 270 00:12:28,080 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: this season, but he would recognize they're not marquee wide receivers. 271 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,600 Speaker 1: We've had the starting Shepherd injury enforcing means he's conference season. 272 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: It'd be great to see one day Robinson back. And 273 00:12:37,760 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: right now at the time of recording, we don't know 274 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: whether Darius Tony is going to be available on Sunday, 275 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 1: and he's a bit of an enigma, unfortunately, because not 276 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 1: many fans seem to know exactly what the nature of 277 00:12:48,400 --> 00:12:51,360 Speaker 1: the injuries we came week out with with him unforced him. 278 00:12:51,360 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 1: But when he is on the field, he's electric, He's dynamic. 279 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:56,000 Speaker 1: He's the kind of player that fits into what we're 280 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 1: trying to do with his offense because seems to one 281 00:12:58,960 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: he's the type of player that was we saw a 282 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:04,840 Speaker 1: Cafe and Andy and the Chiefs organization can do repars 283 00:13:04,840 --> 00:13:08,160 Speaker 1: like tyreck I wouldn't necessarily put Tony in that category. 284 00:13:08,200 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 1: Put yes, similarities and you can see why when he's 285 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 1: on the field he could stretch. He could certainly stretch 286 00:13:12,400 --> 00:13:14,840 Speaker 1: the offense. And and now to defense, the UNITEAE to 287 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: be tinking it. What are scenarios? Yeah, no question about it. 288 00:13:18,080 --> 00:13:20,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I think when you take a look 289 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: at this wide receiver corps, I think I still think 290 00:13:22,800 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: they're trying to figure it out, right, I mean last 291 00:13:24,520 --> 00:13:26,600 Speaker 1: week and I think Brian heading into the year, we 292 00:13:26,600 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: both would have said, boy, I don't know about this 293 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 1: tight end group. You know, they don't have a lot 294 00:13:29,760 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: of experience. Tanner Hudson comes in late, you have my reck, 295 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: you have Bellinger, the rookie who's gonna, you know, take 296 00:13:34,440 --> 00:13:36,320 Speaker 1: some time to get used to the NFL. Then all 297 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: of a sudden, you get the week four and they're 298 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,160 Speaker 1: running out three tight ends at the same time, a 299 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 1: lot of double tight ends. They the triple tight ends 300 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,080 Speaker 1: and the thirteen personnel, And they really went to the 301 00:13:45,120 --> 00:13:48,040 Speaker 1: tight ends last week and use that as a weapon 302 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: as they're still trying to figure out kind of what 303 00:13:50,840 --> 00:13:53,160 Speaker 1: this wide receiver group is. Who's gonna play and who's 304 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: gonna be used in what roles. Yeah, I mean you 305 00:13:55,920 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: can see a sense he's well in their own game 306 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:58,960 Speaker 1: and how they're scheming with two or treat two or 307 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:01,120 Speaker 1: three tight ends, and they're at different times in terms 308 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: of trying to stack the line to make sure there 309 00:14:03,360 --> 00:14:05,960 Speaker 1: is a gap which makes available for sake one. But 310 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:09,880 Speaker 1: you've all seeing Bealenger the way he moves off. He 311 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,040 Speaker 1: looks like he's in a block a blocking scenario, and 312 00:14:12,120 --> 00:14:14,440 Speaker 1: he's able to get himself afraidy to court. The touchdown 313 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: for example against the Panthers was an exact science in 314 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: terms of fake handoff, you know. And then he gets 315 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: out to the side, and we need to see more 316 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: of them like you ten fifteen year twenty yards completing 317 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: their key in key for this team right now to 318 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,840 Speaker 1: allow the drives to continue. We don't want to if 319 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,920 Speaker 1: we can into three announced scenario and continuously on Sunday 320 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,600 Speaker 1: at the Packers team. And whilst the Packers offense has 321 00:14:36,640 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: been a bit ratic, shall we say, this season, I 322 00:14:39,280 --> 00:14:41,960 Speaker 1: think they're still reading from the loss of Davantee Adams. 323 00:14:41,960 --> 00:14:44,480 Speaker 1: You haven't seemed to find their feet. We need, we 324 00:14:44,520 --> 00:14:46,520 Speaker 1: need to be putting the points on something. This is 325 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: the point of game. I don't think I don't think 326 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,480 Speaker 1: we're suited to win a game seventy and fourteen against 327 00:14:51,480 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: this Packer's team. I think we need to be put 328 00:14:53,040 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: up at least twenty four, twenty seven tenially. Yeah, to 329 00:14:56,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: your point, and that they make a great point. You know, 330 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,240 Speaker 1: the Giants this year to only one points against Tennessee, 331 00:15:01,440 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: sixteen points against Carol at the sixteen or nineteen points 332 00:15:04,680 --> 00:15:07,560 Speaker 1: against Carolina part of me, sixteen points against Dallas, and 333 00:15:07,600 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: then the twenty points against Chicago. I'm with you. I 334 00:15:10,600 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: think minimum twenty three four if you want a realistic 335 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:17,600 Speaker 1: shot here this week, right, Yeah, absolutely, and the mink. 336 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: Martindale has done a fantastic job on defense. The great 337 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: thing I feel a bit of the defenses, there's players 338 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: there that are We see players get big contracts in 339 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 1: the league and they don't necessarily prove their word like 340 00:15:29,360 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 1: they go off. They get these big contracts frum free agency. 341 00:15:31,680 --> 00:15:35,840 Speaker 1: He's brought in players is Tony Jefferson, hide Ward, Justin Dallis. 342 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 1: Not household names, but they've all played under Martin Dale 343 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:42,520 Speaker 1: in Baltimore at some stage during their career. They recognized 344 00:15:42,520 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: the work on which he wants from the player they understand, 345 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 1: they understand the schemes in which he's trying to do. 346 00:15:47,840 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 1: The players in the secondary that he's to so many 347 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: moving parity as pree safety, strong safety, sensually coming up 348 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:55,400 Speaker 1: to play linebacker at times like and then you see 349 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 1: like in the Panthers game particular, Baker Mayfield didn't really 350 00:15:58,480 --> 00:16:00,680 Speaker 1: know what was coming about times like you junior over 351 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: the with the the light sacked that sensually kind of 352 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,080 Speaker 1: killed off the game. For Daniel Jones ran for the 353 00:16:06,120 --> 00:16:09,160 Speaker 1: first town. He has a defense plane as a group 354 00:16:09,160 --> 00:16:11,240 Speaker 1: of door Jackson for me has been a standout player. 355 00:16:11,280 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: Like there's a lot of scrutiny on him coming into season, 356 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 1: especially with James Brodery leaving. Could he be a number 357 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: one quarterback? I mean his attacking skills a DeLine scrimmage 358 00:16:19,960 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: to see him that been really impressive. His communication in 359 00:16:22,800 --> 00:16:25,520 Speaker 1: the backfield has been fantastic. It's just an overall core 360 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:28,560 Speaker 1: of players that there's not a massive amount of big 361 00:16:28,640 --> 00:16:31,160 Speaker 1: names in the defense, but collaboratory as a group. You're 362 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:34,680 Speaker 1: seeing a great sense of organcy to understand what's what's 363 00:16:34,720 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 1: been asking from Wink, Martin Dale and Dexter Lawrence Texta 364 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Lawrence has stepped up zim and as who for a 365 00:16:40,520 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 1: lot of people felt he may not make the roster. 366 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,880 Speaker 1: He could be one of the potential cuts. He's playing 367 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:47,840 Speaker 1: really well. So it's just great to see an amalgamational 368 00:16:47,840 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: players coming together and playing as a unit, because I 369 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 1: think that's been such a disconnect both offensively and defensively 370 00:16:55,160 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 1: over the past few years. It's the transition so quickly 371 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 1: has been really good. Yeah, I think I'm impressed to 372 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 1: Brian and how much Wink has really altered his game 373 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:06,160 Speaker 1: plan from week to week. I think his reputation coming 374 00:17:06,160 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: from Baltimore, and some of it deservedly so was you know, 375 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: cover one, cover zero, blitz, a lot of man to man. 376 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,520 Speaker 1: But he's very really varied his coverage from week to week, 377 00:17:14,560 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: and I do think he has adjusted what he does 378 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:19,560 Speaker 1: to the talent on the roster pretty well week to week. 379 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: He made a great point May and I just sticked 380 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 1: in my mind. He says, let's not have an offense 381 00:17:26,040 --> 00:17:28,280 Speaker 1: dictator to us. Let's dictate to the offense, you know, 382 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: and let's go up on the on the front foot. 383 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:32,800 Speaker 1: And we saw that in Tennessee. We saw that against 384 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:34,720 Speaker 1: the Panthers, we saw it again against the Bears, and 385 00:17:34,760 --> 00:17:37,080 Speaker 1: something probably didn't see it as much in the game 386 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: against the Cowboys, and which was quite this point where 387 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:42,399 Speaker 1: I think, with a lot of fact we would get 388 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 1: to Cooper Russian a bit more. It didn't materialize in 389 00:17:44,560 --> 00:17:46,440 Speaker 1: the night. But at the same time, going into the 390 00:17:46,480 --> 00:17:48,560 Speaker 1: four quarter, like the Cowboys pulled away late in that game, 391 00:17:48,560 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 1: they didn't have a huge impondence of points. So you 392 00:17:50,760 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 1: can commend the defense and that came as well. And 393 00:17:53,359 --> 00:17:56,760 Speaker 1: he's certainly scaming and he's gonna have to schame really 394 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: well for some day, I imagine against Aaron Rodgers. Yeah, 395 00:18:00,000 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 1: and I think, why don't we use that to transition here? Then, Brian, 396 00:18:02,640 --> 00:18:05,160 Speaker 1: you know the Packers, this is by far, I think 397 00:18:05,200 --> 00:18:08,200 Speaker 1: the biggest challenges Giants defense is going to face. It's 398 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: by far the best quarterback that they will have faced 399 00:18:10,280 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 1: this year on Aaron Rodgers. We know that, as you 400 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: mentioned earlier, the Packers don't have that type of wide 401 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: receiver corps that they've had in the past. No davant 402 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: the Animals Markers about this scantling down the team either. 403 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 1: But I really think this is going to be the 404 00:18:21,840 --> 00:18:25,200 Speaker 1: first true test for this giant secondary. Uh, you know 405 00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 1: Aaron Robinson is now you know, not gonna play this 406 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: week at Lisa's looked like that. Well, you know, have 407 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:31,679 Speaker 1: details on injury yet, so it's probably gonna be Fabian 408 00:18:31,720 --> 00:18:33,960 Speaker 1: Moreau out there with Darny Holmes and of course the 409 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 1: Dory Jackson. To me, this is a huge litmus test 410 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: game for this giant secondary and how they deal with 411 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:42,120 Speaker 1: the quarterback like Aaron Rodgers, even though maybe they don't 412 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:46,680 Speaker 1: have that elite wide receiver corps. Yeah, it's we saw 413 00:18:46,760 --> 00:18:49,199 Speaker 1: I told I felt we saw a bit of positivity 414 00:18:49,200 --> 00:18:52,040 Speaker 1: in the Parker's first top performs against the Books last weekday. 415 00:18:52,400 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: What's the on his care fourteen points. There was a 416 00:18:54,000 --> 00:18:56,239 Speaker 1: fumbled by Aaron Jones in the red zone, which if 417 00:18:56,280 --> 00:18:58,080 Speaker 1: they hadn't got to twenty one, I think since they came, 418 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,720 Speaker 1: would have been ten. Very nott stage. And we saw 419 00:19:00,840 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: last weekend against the Pages and Wells. The Pages right 420 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:06,159 Speaker 1: now haven't got the greatest of rosters. To one thing, 421 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,920 Speaker 1: they've got a great coach from Bill Belichick. No, No's 422 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: how to play any team, and he'd used the prayers 423 00:19:11,359 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 1: in which he has availed to him to make sure 424 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,680 Speaker 1: they're in a in a game which they were using 425 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: their Torre quarterback. But just I still felt that there 426 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 1: was a little bit of inconsistency there on the offense. 427 00:19:21,119 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 1: Dobs the the rookies coming. He's a better start than 428 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:26,359 Speaker 1: Watson has happened, and he went later in and later round. 429 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:29,679 Speaker 1: And he's relying on Cob, he said today in one 430 00:19:29,680 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: of his press comps, and that Randall Cobb for them 431 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:34,919 Speaker 1: is is significant right now and bearing the mine. He 432 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 1: only came back to team last year, and I felt 433 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,400 Speaker 1: at the time it was more just to keep Aaron 434 00:19:38,480 --> 00:19:40,919 Speaker 1: Rodgers on side by bringing him back. He write, he 435 00:19:41,080 --> 00:19:43,520 Speaker 1: right now is their marquete player, tany and the tid 436 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:45,400 Speaker 1: and I really liked him. He had a difficult time 437 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: and he was not injured since to be coming back 438 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:49,120 Speaker 1: to a bit of for him. So we are gonna 439 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:50,840 Speaker 1: have our We are gonna have a busy day on 440 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 1: some day in the secondary trying to keep them down 441 00:19:53,040 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 1: as well as that if they get into a situation 442 00:19:55,359 --> 00:19:57,480 Speaker 1: where it's not walking for them in terms of go 443 00:19:57,560 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 1: in deep, you know, we are tightening up. They've got 444 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:02,679 Speaker 1: to really running backs in Aaron Jones um A j. 445 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,880 Speaker 1: Dylon who reads come on in the past years, changing 446 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:07,959 Speaker 1: his towards right now in the NICK. So they've got 447 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,600 Speaker 1: good players there as well as they can take the 448 00:20:09,600 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 1: pressure of Rogers if he is if it is materialized 449 00:20:12,600 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 1: in terms of the passing game. Yeah, look, they've run 450 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 1: the boy. I was looking at their run rate earlier today. 451 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,120 Speaker 1: Actually had to stat right here. Um, I think they 452 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: right now in terms of run rate per game their 453 00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 1: ninth in the NFL. In the first half of games, 454 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:29,000 Speaker 1: forty four percent of their plays um or run plays. 455 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:32,440 Speaker 1: So you know that's not what you think of when 456 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,920 Speaker 1: you think of in think of an Aaron Rodgers team, 457 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,960 Speaker 1: but that's what they're doing. And Aaron and you know, 458 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: it's a good one to punch, right. A j Dillon's 459 00:20:40,480 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: that bigger back. He's gonna grind nanny. Aaron Jones is 460 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,600 Speaker 1: averaging almost seven yards per carry. He's a good receiver. 461 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 1: He's that type of big play threat that it's really 462 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:52,600 Speaker 1: the Packers version of Ezekiel Ellian and Tony Pollard right 463 00:20:52,600 --> 00:20:54,560 Speaker 1: which Giant fans are earlier in the year, and they'll 464 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 1: use them both very similarly. Believe it or not, Dylan 465 00:20:57,720 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: actually has more carries this year than Joe, even though 466 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:02,679 Speaker 1: he have him was a two d few yards. But 467 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,919 Speaker 1: Jones is the more dangerous guy. But if you get 468 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:06,400 Speaker 1: into a game of the Packers get the lead, they're 469 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:08,480 Speaker 1: gonna try to grind you down with that formative offense 470 00:21:08,480 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: with a J. Dowton. Yeah, Jones is very effective receptions 471 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:13,720 Speaker 1: as well. I mean you see time and time again, 472 00:21:13,760 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: where's the screen pass which looks like a two or 473 00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,560 Speaker 1: three yard dump dump off goes for twenty yards because 474 00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,239 Speaker 1: he's so an extra can get He's not He's not 475 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: similar to say Kwan, but there is bours to times 476 00:21:23,800 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: where they get out on on the same and they're gone. 477 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,560 Speaker 1: It's difficult they get them down. We need to we 478 00:21:28,560 --> 00:21:30,639 Speaker 1: need to kind of make sure that we're ready for 479 00:21:30,680 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 1: those type of scenarios and something more so than may 480 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:36,040 Speaker 1: be potentially Rogers gone deep in today, deep into the field. Yeah, 481 00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 1: and I do think there's an opportunity against this offensive wine. 482 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: This is not the same Packer offensive one that they've 483 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: had in years past. You know, Brian Blogg is not 484 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: there anymore. Elgin Jenkins, who I believe they just signed 485 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: to an extension. I'm not mistaken. He's been out of 486 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,399 Speaker 1: right tackle. Uh. He traditionally was more of a guard 487 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,879 Speaker 1: center when he got drafted. David Boxer is back, but 488 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,719 Speaker 1: you know, they've had some issues protecting Rogers. If if 489 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 1: anybody watched the first half of that Patriots Packers game, 490 00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,159 Speaker 1: I thought the page three, it's really bothered Rogers with 491 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:03,880 Speaker 1: the pass rush in the first half of that game. 492 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,360 Speaker 1: You know, I don't love the idea of blitzing Aaron Rodgers. 493 00:22:07,400 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 1: He's seen a lot and he's very good against the blitz. 494 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 1: If the Giants can figure out a way to get 495 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,720 Speaker 1: some pressure with four maybe five guys here, Brian, I 496 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:17,880 Speaker 1: think that kind of gives you your best chance. Yeah, 497 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: And I think we marting able to adjust that scenario. 498 00:22:20,160 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: We we all read about the reports how he's he 499 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: was blitz heavy in Baltimore and he had the players 500 00:22:25,520 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: there to do that and your players are left on 501 00:22:27,600 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 1: an island. He was very much I'm gonna blitz and them. 502 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 1: If you don't like it, that's the way it's going 503 00:22:31,040 --> 00:22:32,760 Speaker 1: to be. But I think this season we've seen and 504 00:22:32,800 --> 00:22:34,960 Speaker 1: maybe he's just working to what he has availabled. Somebody 505 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,800 Speaker 1: hasn't blitzed, you know once. We have bits of times 506 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 1: it hasn't been to the extent I think most fans 507 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,160 Speaker 1: would have expected that. We felt TV blitzening for quite 508 00:22:42,200 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: a lot of the game, so it hasn't been the case. 509 00:22:44,040 --> 00:22:47,159 Speaker 1: I'd imagine if he does go down that route Sunday 510 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: and Aaron Rodgers is picking us off, he'll he'll readjust 511 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: and maybe just go man on man or go double 512 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: goes on and just you know, allowed Rodgers the time, 513 00:22:54,840 --> 00:22:57,120 Speaker 1: because I don't think Rodgers is the corner quarterback. We've 514 00:22:57,119 --> 00:22:59,560 Speaker 1: played against the quarterbacks like Justin Fails for example, and something. 515 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,360 Speaker 1: When he gets outside the pocket, he's electric as well. 516 00:23:02,600 --> 00:23:04,600 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers in that type of quarterback, So we can 517 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: keep him in the pocket. We I think we would 518 00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: have an opportunity there. You're you're right about his presence 519 00:23:10,160 --> 00:23:12,280 Speaker 1: on Sunday. He was fred unquortable for the first half. 520 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,200 Speaker 1: Even early in the second half he was unquoortably. Should 521 00:23:14,280 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: pick six against the pages if we can get at him, 522 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:18,919 Speaker 1: he he does get off and he's off killed her. 523 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,119 Speaker 1: If you see him, tend to get him comfortable and 524 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,600 Speaker 1: get frustrated without the prayers, get frustrated the offensive line. 525 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if you saw the did didn't the 526 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: playing which he wanted. The ball snapped him and he 527 00:23:29,960 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: coursed out at the center and town Rome when the 528 00:23:32,359 --> 00:23:34,680 Speaker 1: commentary kind of he's dot in terms of what he 529 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: actually did say, but it was caught in Cameron. It 530 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:39,159 Speaker 1: was a bit foker, shall we say, but he clearly 531 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:40,919 Speaker 1: was frustrated at that stage of the game. That's what 532 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: we need to do and something we need to frustrate 533 00:23:42,840 --> 00:23:45,440 Speaker 1: the life out of him. Get out this offensive line 534 00:23:45,440 --> 00:23:47,840 Speaker 1: that has been up and down throughout the course the season. 535 00:23:48,280 --> 00:23:52,040 Speaker 1: We need Urginary and Thiboteau to be really on their 536 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:54,719 Speaker 1: game and Sunday and they seemed free from where they 537 00:23:54,720 --> 00:23:57,119 Speaker 1: were against Dallas to where they wearing Sunday. Was the 538 00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 1: Bears offensive line wasn't great. We did see a bit 539 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,800 Speaker 1: of a I felt he improved with six sacks on something. 540 00:24:03,160 --> 00:24:04,560 Speaker 1: It was a lot better than what we saw the 541 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,919 Speaker 1: previous week. So I think we have an opportunity. Was 542 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:09,679 Speaker 1: this offense of learning the moment is still going through 543 00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: the course of getting together with an opportunity and something 544 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: to potentially go after you mentioned it, what are your 545 00:24:14,760 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: thoughts on Thibodeaux and Evan Neil the Giants too, rookie 546 00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,199 Speaker 1: so far. I was really played with Evan Neil on 547 00:24:20,240 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 1: Sunday because you got a lot of scrutiny after the 548 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:23,959 Speaker 1: Dallas game. But we have to bear in mind who 549 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:27,760 Speaker 1: he was going up against Mit Lawrence and making comparisons 550 00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: and making person didn't have a second the night. But 551 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: Neil didn't have the greatest again, but that's the type 552 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:34,119 Speaker 1: of stuff we saw from Andrew Thomas already on in 553 00:24:34,160 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: his career, and he was getting thrown under the bus 554 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,359 Speaker 1: by many immediate person and some supports that giving up 555 00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 1: on them and David Keediman had not picked the right prayer. 556 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:44,879 Speaker 1: But what we're seeing there was a top five left 557 00:24:44,960 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 1: left tackle and he's probably gonna get paid like a 558 00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,040 Speaker 1: you know, a top left tackle as some stage. Evan 559 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:52,280 Speaker 1: Neil's that's right now are quite similar to where he 560 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,600 Speaker 1: was when Andrew Thomas came into day. So I think 561 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: long term we have we're secure there. Cave On is 562 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: a difficult one because as bring him fortunate, everything was 563 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 1: so excited to say, and he gets injured in the 564 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:06,359 Speaker 1: preseason game against the Bengals and that kind of trouse 565 00:25:06,400 --> 00:25:09,400 Speaker 1: him off. And here's his recovery and trying to get 566 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,320 Speaker 1: him ready, and you have to win more of the 567 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,760 Speaker 1: couch and stuff, because I think previously we would have 568 00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: seen players for pressure around coaches to put them in 569 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: even though he may not be on undercent. But it 570 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 1: seems like the Giants coach and staff from the medical 571 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: crew said, now we'll wait to your own just sent 572 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 1: and ready to go. I think it's a season aggressive. 573 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 1: We're gonna say a great players just a case of 574 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,840 Speaker 1: him getting I think if he gets a sacking may 575 00:25:30,840 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: not necessarily be this game, but once he gets the sack, 576 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 1: and once he gets pressures on, the quarterback gets his 577 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:36,480 Speaker 1: confidence com I think we'll see the player in which 578 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: we all expected to see when he when he was 579 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 1: picked up in at the fifth spot in the draft. 580 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,320 Speaker 1: Yeah no, I agree. So let's stick with the other 581 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:45,760 Speaker 1: side of the ball. We talked about the PA the 582 00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: Packers offense. Let's let's all about their defense. You know, 583 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 1: top ten league in defense, I think their top I 584 00:25:51,800 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: think the third in terms of past yards allowed per game, 585 00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:56,920 Speaker 1: twenty second against the run. You know, to me, you 586 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,000 Speaker 1: gotta run the ball or on early downs against this team, 587 00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: and you know I'm always a pass only downs guy. 588 00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,480 Speaker 1: To me, that that's what I like to do. And 589 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: you know, if the John's go on some play action 590 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: like they did last week, I think that works too. 591 00:26:07,119 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: But you cannot get into third and long against the Packers. 592 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 1: One stat I kind of unpacked today when I was 593 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: looking at their defense, Brian, which I think is pretty crazy. 594 00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: So on defense on third and six or longer, the 595 00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 1: Packers have allowed other teams to convert four percent of 596 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 1: their attempts for first down. So you do not want 597 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,480 Speaker 1: to be in third and long against this Packers defense. 598 00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:31,880 Speaker 1: You gotta do your damage on first down, whether it's 599 00:26:31,880 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 1: in play action or with the running Sae Kwon Barkley, 600 00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: because once you get the passing situations with that pass 601 00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: rush in that secondary, it's gonna be problematic. John. The 602 00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:43,040 Speaker 1: fact that you're saying there's been so many teams and 603 00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 1: so many players where they've had teams in tort and 604 00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 1: long shows he well, this defense is playing this season 605 00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 1: and there's kind of a changing of the garret at 606 00:26:51,480 --> 00:26:53,879 Speaker 1: the moment with the Parkers. To defense is what's keeping 607 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:56,119 Speaker 1: them in a position where they can still be effective 608 00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:58,600 Speaker 1: and win games once the offenses trying to find their feet. 609 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: You've got some great players up front in Campbell Smith 610 00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: and they're gonna get our after our offensive line and 611 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:06,919 Speaker 1: someday we're talking about say Kwan having the opportunity on 612 00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: Sunday to be effective on forced downs. That's gonna come 613 00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 1: down to how when our offensive line can play against 614 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: this front seven because when they're when they get gone 615 00:27:14,840 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 1: and they're so effective, and there's there'll be a huge 616 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,520 Speaker 1: Packers fan base there and Sunday they it will be noisy. 617 00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,639 Speaker 1: So it was to be a lot of joints fans. 618 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 1: We have to air on the side of caution as 619 00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: I feel that this is going to be like a 620 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: level playing field and we're not going into lamb. But 621 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,679 Speaker 1: but they will bring the noise, their defense will viewfer it. 622 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: Their secondary for me, is a little bit up and down. 623 00:27:34,800 --> 00:27:37,800 Speaker 1: The fourth game this season, Jefferson had over a hundred 624 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: years and you touchdowns in the first half. Now, I 625 00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:42,560 Speaker 1: do recognize Jefferson. Jefferson is one of argue one of 626 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 1: the best worlder series in the league. But if we 627 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,639 Speaker 1: can if we can scheme against that secondary, there is 628 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,360 Speaker 1: opportunities there. But again it's about making sure these receivers 629 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:54,240 Speaker 1: can get the ball. We'ren true for seventy seven other 630 00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:56,560 Speaker 1: years and Sunday the game and something against the Bears 631 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 1: was very much let's run out until they can stop us. 632 00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 1: And they couldn't stop this and treat the Carson the game. 633 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: So why you go away from something that's working. But Sunday, 634 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,720 Speaker 1: I think we have to about on stuff and to 635 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 1: catch him off. Yeah, sake on Willie and have Hopefrey 636 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,919 Speaker 1: Daniel is in a position where you can, you know, 637 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:14,920 Speaker 1: get out on the on the perimeter. And but we 638 00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,119 Speaker 1: also need to make sure our wide receivers are Stafford 639 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: looking on getting themselves open. Yeah. Absolutely, And you know 640 00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:23,440 Speaker 1: you mentioned cama On Preston Smith. Roshaun Garry has turned 641 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:25,440 Speaker 1: into one of the best young pass rushers in the league. 642 00:28:25,880 --> 00:28:27,600 Speaker 1: Um after you know, he was a guy that was 643 00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:29,200 Speaker 1: a little raw coming out of Michigan. It took him 644 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 1: some time, which much like Andrew Thomas is fine. That's 645 00:28:31,160 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: why you draft guys to develop him, right, And you know, 646 00:28:33,880 --> 00:28:36,119 Speaker 1: don't forget Kenny Clark too. Right, we talk about the 647 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: Giants tackles where they've had some issues as they're inside 648 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,720 Speaker 1: pass protection. Right, So to meet Kenny Clark and he'll 649 00:28:41,760 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: line up over the whole play knows he'll play over 650 00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,080 Speaker 1: the right guard, will play over the left guard. How 651 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,240 Speaker 1: did Giants deal with Kenny Clark in this game? And 652 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:50,200 Speaker 1: we'll see how healthy Mark Lewinsky is. He left that 653 00:28:50,200 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: game last week with an angle, Ben Brdison obviously, josh 654 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: A Zulu and Flicianood center. How did they deal with 655 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:57,880 Speaker 1: Kenny Clark? To me, that is gonna be a big 656 00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,800 Speaker 1: part of this game. Yeah, just the scene you're gonna 657 00:29:00,840 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: find there and they're gonna try and move him around 658 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:04,920 Speaker 1: and see where the best spoff for him is. Sense 659 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,560 Speaker 1: you know, is he getting is he getting to benefit? 660 00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: Have been on the right side of the left side 661 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:10,920 Speaker 1: he's They're gonna you're there and try mixing around as 662 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: much as possible to try catch catch usself guaranty. It's 663 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:16,760 Speaker 1: a difficult, it really is, because they have some there's 664 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: some great players there that that we're going up against 665 00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 1: us something the offensive line as just said, it's key 666 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: and something. Yeah, no question about it. I think it'll 667 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: be interesting to see, you know what happens. You know 668 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: when the Giants do get into those cases or third 669 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 1: and longs, do they manage to figure things out? Um 670 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: in terms of their passport I think it'll be one 671 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: of the bigger tests in addition to that Cowboys game 672 00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: for the Giants offensive line. And we're gonna be joined 673 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: by Mark Carkroll in just a second, he's getting his 674 00:29:41,800 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: video up. He's one of the cost of the Irish 675 00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 1: NFL Show, um, and I'm surprised he wants to join 676 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: a couple of giant fans here as a Patriot fan 677 00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,440 Speaker 1: for a long time. But we thank you for joining 678 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,520 Speaker 1: us today and we're gonna bring market in just a second, 679 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: a couple of reason I gotta do here, guys, giant fans, 680 00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: don't forget to join us. On Sunday, October sixteenth, Giants 681 00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,000 Speaker 1: versus Ravens and the team celebrates that's you know, Heritage 682 00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:02,320 Speaker 1: Months presented by ford Or. I've really to partake in 683 00:30:02,400 --> 00:30:06,240 Speaker 1: several plaza activations, including food sampling, salsa dancing, live music, 684 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:09,200 Speaker 1: and celebrity artist d J. Camillo performing during pregame warm 685 00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,200 Speaker 1: ups and select times throughout the game. Limited tickets are available. 686 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:16,960 Speaker 1: Visit Giants dot com slash tickets to secure your seat today. 687 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:18,720 Speaker 1: All right, now, let's welcome in one of the other 688 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: co hosts of the Irish NFL Show, that is Mark 689 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: cockrel Mark, welcome, how are you man? Jell them? I'm 690 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:27,440 Speaker 1: very good, delights to join you in a statement. And 691 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: I heard you just say why would a Patriots fan 692 00:30:30,800 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: want to join two Giants fans on the Giants podcast? 693 00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: It is true. I can lord it over thirty other 694 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,680 Speaker 1: franchises in the NFL, but the Giants is the one 695 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: that still hurts. Still hurts. Now, yeah, I didn't tell 696 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:44,760 Speaker 1: you we were gonna do this, but let's do the 697 00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:47,320 Speaker 1: next thirty minutes on Super Bowls forty two and forty six? 698 00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: Are you already now, I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. Uh. Well, 699 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:55,920 Speaker 1: you know it's funny. Brian did bring something up on 700 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 1: my last answer. Mark. I'm curious to get both of 701 00:30:57,880 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: you guys take on this. What do you think the 702 00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 1: fan bring down is going to be? Because we know 703 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: the Papers travel, we know they have a very popular 704 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,280 Speaker 1: fan base, we know the Giants have a fan base 705 00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:08,480 Speaker 1: in London, obviously New York, there's expats over there and 706 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,080 Speaker 1: everything like that. So Mark, let's start with you on this. 707 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:14,720 Speaker 1: How do you think this fan breakdown is going to 708 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 1: be at Tottingham UM when they play on Sunday? Um? Well, Firstly, John, 709 00:31:21,040 --> 00:31:23,640 Speaker 1: there's always going to be a mix of fans at 710 00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: any London game. You will see all thirty two jerseys 711 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: of all the teams that looking around the scene. Yeah, 712 00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 1: it's a great environment for that. And then when you 713 00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:34,840 Speaker 1: get a good game, the the vibe from all the 714 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 1: fans naturally is great. I honestly can't call it like 715 00:31:37,560 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: You've got to remember the Giants are so big over 716 00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:43,120 Speaker 1: here because when the NFL came onto domestic TV and 717 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,040 Speaker 1: the mid mid eighties in the UK. I mean you're 718 00:31:46,040 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 1: talking about the era Phil Sims, the era Bill Parcels, 719 00:31:49,120 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 1: Lt Banks Pepper, you know, that great team in the 720 00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: late eighties, early nineties. So Giants, forty Niners, Bears, Dolphins 721 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: have huge followings over here. Um. And yet the Packers 722 00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: are the first of the last team sorry, the thirty 723 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: second team of the NFL to finally visit London shows 724 00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 1: in the thirty second game to be held in London. 725 00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: So there's a big up swell of the UK and 726 00:32:13,480 --> 00:32:16,320 Speaker 1: I Packers fans, European Packers fans are desperate to come over. 727 00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:19,080 Speaker 1: It's been one of the hardest tickets to get. I 728 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,440 Speaker 1: would say Munich is harder, but Giants Packers is definitely 729 00:32:22,480 --> 00:32:24,040 Speaker 1: the pick of the London Games this year and it's 730 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: been really tough to get tickets for Brian. You think 731 00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: there'll be a lot of Packers fans there, then it's 732 00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:33,080 Speaker 1: gonna be pretty packed with green and yellow. Yes, there is, 733 00:32:33,120 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: but I think they are on the on the estimating 734 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:36,960 Speaker 1: the amount of Giants fans that will be there. I've 735 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: had numerous people reach out to meet is. There's a 736 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,800 Speaker 1: big giant contingent, having a and a couple of swarreys 737 00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: over of course a few days leading up to the 738 00:32:44,760 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: game and see most of those events are sold out 739 00:32:46,920 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: prior accounts. Everybody who's gone to these events has tickets, 740 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,720 Speaker 1: so I think you'll pleasantly surprised by the amount of 741 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: Giants fans there on Sunday. And Mark touched on the 742 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:57,400 Speaker 1: fans who are mixed. Have we say on Sunday going 743 00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: to enjoying the spectacle down the great NFL Game. I'd 744 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 1: imagine they would be cheering on joints more so than 745 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,680 Speaker 1: the Packers. Yeah, it's funny and you guys talked about 746 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: with the different jerseys, that's one of my favorite things 747 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 1: about going. This is gonna be my third trip. I 748 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: was at Wembley UM in two thousand and seven and 749 00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:13,960 Speaker 1: twenty six team I was at Twickenham and then now 750 00:33:13,960 --> 00:33:15,560 Speaker 1: we have the third stadium, the Giants, so he didn't 751 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:16,960 Speaker 1: be one of the teams going to these stadiums for 752 00:33:17,000 --> 00:33:19,520 Speaker 1: the first time. And you know, I love seeing all 753 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,560 Speaker 1: the different jerseys from the different teams, and I love 754 00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: the guys that you know, it's probably Americans, I would 755 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: imagine that moved out to England or you know, the 756 00:33:28,280 --> 00:33:30,880 Speaker 1: UK and they have their jerseys from the late nineties, 757 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:34,040 Speaker 1: like I saw Tommy maddox Pittsburgh Steelers jersey last time 758 00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,719 Speaker 1: I was out there. You get some winners from like 759 00:33:36,760 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 1: the late nineties and even before that Brian with jerseys 760 00:33:39,880 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: that that you see around and it's just fun seeing 761 00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: the different fans of the different teams, of the random 762 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: players that sometimes pop up on these jerseys. Well I'll 763 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,000 Speaker 1: give a shout out to the National Vintage League and 764 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 1: they're based in the UK to instead of They notched 765 00:33:52,480 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 1: one two in Niche Market a couple of years back 766 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: and all they said is is the legacy jerseys? Really? Yeah? Yeah, 767 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,600 Speaker 1: they were we spoken amongst some day we were at 768 00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: the game of Talton on Sunday we met him. We 769 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,000 Speaker 1: we've had him on their show and they have a 770 00:34:05,040 --> 00:34:08,919 Speaker 1: store a particular story in London. People it's a walking store. 771 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 1: People go in, Like I was talking and Sunday be 772 00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 1: getting the lthy the Bank's legacy jersey said yeah, I 773 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:16,279 Speaker 1: can have that for you within a week. So yet 774 00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:19,280 Speaker 1: they have done some great things and it was evident 775 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 1: on Sunday even at the Viking Saints game, the melt 776 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: a legacy jersey, which we're at the game and Sunday 777 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,960 Speaker 1: was a nice sight about Yeah, John, I'll let you judge, 778 00:34:28,000 --> 00:34:30,840 Speaker 1: what's the most random jersey. Like I've seen a David 779 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: car jersey. I've seen a Joey Harrington jersey. Madix Steelers 780 00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:40,200 Speaker 1: was was Yeah, boy, let me think I saw a 781 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:43,600 Speaker 1: couple other funny ones. I always liked the ones, and 782 00:34:43,600 --> 00:34:45,600 Speaker 1: I know Good Morning Football is a great segment. I 783 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,680 Speaker 1: like the guys who maybe what you know, was like 784 00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,200 Speaker 1: a real player, but then he goes to like a 785 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 1: team in the last game of like last year of 786 00:34:52,040 --> 00:34:53,719 Speaker 1: his career, plays like two games, but you have the 787 00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 1: jersey of him washed up on the team that he 788 00:34:56,560 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: barely played for. That's usually by my favorite one I've egg. 789 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if you're starting. Yeah, the coverage on 790 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:07,160 Speaker 1: Sunday Jim Mark sanche is the former Jets quarterback, happened 791 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 1: to be to be at the game. He's obviously covering 792 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,960 Speaker 1: the game for whatever particular organization he's working for, and 793 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,480 Speaker 1: he recognized the Jets fan in the crowd with Mark 794 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,080 Speaker 1: Sanchez jersey on, and he brought the chapter. He brought 795 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 1: the guy down, got photographs with him, signed this jersey. 796 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 1: It was probably the only Mark Sanchez j just left. 797 00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:23,960 Speaker 1: You know. He found it in the in the rubbish 798 00:35:24,000 --> 00:35:28,160 Speaker 1: being somewhere and he decided to where it's the game. Well, 799 00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 1: the one that you guys have in common is I 800 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 1: wouldn't the the Jet fans here, So I guess you 801 00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:36,040 Speaker 1: guys can go to Toad all that, right, but that 802 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,000 Speaker 1: that is the one team that doesn't get any love 803 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: from me. The meal any point, I will say that, 804 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,319 Speaker 1: but it can go wrong. I remember Garth Brooks has 805 00:35:44,360 --> 00:35:46,840 Speaker 1: been over An Island and performed these big concerts in 806 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:49,640 Speaker 1: Croke Park last wall. But back a couple of years ago, 807 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: who was playing a gig in Michigan and he was 808 00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,520 Speaker 1: photographed wearing a Barry Sanders Jersey. Now, the only problem 809 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:59,239 Speaker 1: was Barry Sanders wall twinning, so people took it up 810 00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:02,040 Speaker 1: that he was actually folding Bernie Sanders in the presidential 811 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,880 Speaker 1: election that year, was getting a bunch of abuse on Twitter. 812 00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:07,759 Speaker 1: So it can go a wrong so easily. Man as well, 813 00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,399 Speaker 1: I remember that that was pretty funny. Um, A couple 814 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:12,960 Speaker 1: of things want to touch with you guys on and 815 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,000 Speaker 1: you mentioned the music game. How much do you guys? 816 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,239 Speaker 1: And I don't know how much of a feel you 817 00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:20,400 Speaker 1: guys have for it. I love to figure out if 818 00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,359 Speaker 1: you do. You know, I remember back, you know, I'm 819 00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 1: sure on my age now, back when you had NFL 820 00:36:24,239 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 1: Europe back in the nineties, it was very popular in Germany. Mark, 821 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:30,440 Speaker 1: is this gonna blow up? You think in Germany is 822 00:36:30,480 --> 00:36:32,000 Speaker 1: as much as it has in the UK. And we're 823 00:36:32,000 --> 00:36:34,400 Speaker 1: gonna be seeing, you think in five six years two 824 00:36:34,520 --> 00:36:36,239 Speaker 1: or three games there, the same way we're seeing two 825 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: or three games in the UK. Absolutely like the appetite 826 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: in Germany. The appetite cross Europe, I say, but especially 827 00:36:43,160 --> 00:36:45,799 Speaker 1: in Germany, they'll take as many games as the NFL 828 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:48,840 Speaker 1: will give them. You gotta remember you're saying about NFL Europe. 829 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:50,600 Speaker 1: I mean yes, my age as well. I do remember 830 00:36:50,640 --> 00:36:55,040 Speaker 1: those days. NFL Europe finished with one Scottish team I 831 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,960 Speaker 1: think it was, and five German teams. Remember right the 832 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,080 Speaker 1: Scottish clay war is Yeah, Scottish claim was London Monarchs, 833 00:37:03,160 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 1: but there was a period of time when all the 834 00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,600 Speaker 1: teams were from around Germany as well. I think the 835 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:11,319 Speaker 1: last World Bowl, I think it was two thousand six, 836 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven around some Super Bowl event occurred 837 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: as well. I don't remember it. That year, some some 838 00:37:15,760 --> 00:37:19,719 Speaker 1: random team won it I think, beating a previously undefeated team. 839 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: But that had sixty thou fans. And you think I 840 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,719 Speaker 1: mean NFL Europe was, let's face it, an inferior product. Yes, 841 00:37:26,880 --> 00:37:29,400 Speaker 1: it spawned cut Warner cut one. I had a breeding ground, 842 00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: there was a classical kind of development story for him. 843 00:37:33,000 --> 00:37:35,439 Speaker 1: But it was an inferior product and they had sixty fans. 844 00:37:35,560 --> 00:37:38,879 Speaker 1: That that passion is growing. We have Germans every year 845 00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 1: going to London to the games because they were like, hey, 846 00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:44,160 Speaker 1: this is closer, we want to experience this in Europe. 847 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: And when I say Giants Packers was hard and it 848 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,040 Speaker 1: is hard to get tickets for because of the passionate 849 00:37:50,120 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 1: fan basis and the big fan basis for that. In Munich, 850 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,480 Speaker 1: it's ten times worse because you've got it all Germany, 851 00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,920 Speaker 1: all of Central Europe and everything. The NFL UK thinks 852 00:38:00,040 --> 00:38:04,279 Speaker 1: maybe three million applications were received for the tickets. I 853 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,120 Speaker 1: think I'm saying yea, I'm right in side Abrond three 854 00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: million so pent up demand to beat the band, and 855 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:12,520 Speaker 1: yeah they could. They will sell as many games as 856 00:38:12,800 --> 00:38:15,480 Speaker 1: NFL wants to give them in the International Series. And 857 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,160 Speaker 1: Germany is a big country too, right, So you could 858 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:18,520 Speaker 1: do a game in Munich, you could do a game 859 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:20,560 Speaker 1: in Berlin, you could do a game in Frankfurt. And 860 00:38:20,640 --> 00:38:22,400 Speaker 1: I think all those all three of those cities. I 861 00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,640 Speaker 1: believe that NFL Europe teams if I remember properly, right, 862 00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: But the Berlin rhyme fire. I think, uh, Frankfurt Galaxy 863 00:38:29,800 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: if I remember right, and I don't remember, I don't 864 00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 1: remember the Munich team name. If I don't remember the 865 00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: Munich team name, unic Ultimobiles or something, I don't remember. 866 00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:43,920 Speaker 1: But the point is you could spread those games out 867 00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:48,160 Speaker 1: and get poll different audiences depending on what city are in, right, Brian, Yeah, 868 00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,600 Speaker 1: that's very true. John, We mis South America. We were 869 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:52,520 Speaker 1: in l As at that Super Bowl and we went 870 00:38:52,560 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: to the international press conference when they were announcing the 871 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,080 Speaker 1: German game. It took place at the l A media 872 00:38:58,120 --> 00:39:01,600 Speaker 1: event on the Friday, and at that particular event they 873 00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:04,520 Speaker 1: pretty much confirmed that they were planning and having three 874 00:39:04,560 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: different cities. They didn't confirm which particular cities we're bidding 875 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:10,560 Speaker 1: or which ones they they're planning to go with, but 876 00:39:10,640 --> 00:39:12,919 Speaker 1: they didn't make it very clear that after Munich there's 877 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:14,520 Speaker 1: an appetite to move the game up to a different 878 00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,359 Speaker 1: city for the second year and then as the towards 879 00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 1: you and they also kind of recognized it may not 880 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: just be one game, but that to day you could 881 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:23,200 Speaker 1: be two potentially trade similar today the UK sonari I 882 00:39:23,239 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: thinks me where Roger Goodell wants to get it is 883 00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:27,920 Speaker 1: that's an even playing field in terms of the UK 884 00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:31,520 Speaker 1: are getting three games and potentially Germany get three games 885 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,200 Speaker 1: because but also bear in mind the Jagts essentially are 886 00:39:34,760 --> 00:39:36,520 Speaker 1: not really a part of the International Serious this year 887 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,880 Speaker 1: in the sense that they have elected to give up 888 00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,520 Speaker 1: a home game and play the game at Wembley, so 889 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,120 Speaker 1: they're not really essentially a part of the International series, 890 00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:47,440 Speaker 1: which it's categorizes as in the ind particular range International 891 00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:50,000 Speaker 1: Series Day are very much leading that game on their 892 00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:53,919 Speaker 1: own and running that game directly with the Bronx. Yeah, 893 00:39:54,640 --> 00:39:57,279 Speaker 1: no doubt about it. And I'm looking here, let me see, um, 894 00:39:57,480 --> 00:39:59,520 Speaker 1: I do not see a Munich team on this list. 895 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: I was just us enough. I remember the damn thing 896 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,960 Speaker 1: Hamburgy had a team, the Sea Devils. Apparently I did 897 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:07,120 Speaker 1: not remember that, but um, needless to say, they had 898 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of popular teams in NFL Europe. 899 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,879 Speaker 1: All right, guys, so let's let's go around the league 900 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,080 Speaker 1: here a little bit, um, biggest surprise for each of 901 00:40:15,160 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 1: you to start this NFL season, mark, why don't we 902 00:40:18,239 --> 00:40:20,120 Speaker 1: start with you? Think that's kind of caught up and 903 00:40:20,440 --> 00:40:24,239 Speaker 1: snuck up on you a little bit. Um, I'm going 904 00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:26,719 Speaker 1: to stick in the NFC East. I didn't expect the 905 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:30,759 Speaker 1: Eagles to be this good. I was still doubtful about 906 00:40:30,840 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, and you could still say there are still 907 00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,480 Speaker 1: doubts about Jalen Hurts. But Brown and Smith are provided 908 00:40:36,520 --> 00:40:38,680 Speaker 1: an amazing one two punts. The running game is strong, 909 00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,560 Speaker 1: their defense is a lot better than I expected. Um, 910 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: there's a lot of teams are probably surprisingly disappointing this season. 911 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:49,279 Speaker 1: But you know, Frankly, if you told me after four weeks, 912 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,399 Speaker 1: I know it's not the quarter point anymore, John, because 913 00:40:51,400 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: of the seventeen games season, but the quarter point if 914 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 1: you had told me the NFC East would be the 915 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 1: division with the most wins of any division where you 916 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,759 Speaker 1: could knocked me over with a feather and called me 917 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,839 Speaker 1: Cynthia because I just dont believed that. I about your 918 00:41:05,880 --> 00:41:08,880 Speaker 1: bride and I would go to Denver Broncos. John. I 919 00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:11,799 Speaker 1: you know, there was so much off season talk about 920 00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:15,719 Speaker 1: the Russell Wilson factor and that this was the opportunity 921 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 1: in which the Broncos needed to really progress and really challenging. 922 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 1: And this offseason it was all very much about the 923 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,240 Speaker 1: a f C West. This is the best division of football. 924 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:24,920 Speaker 1: The Chiefs, the Raiders did quit it off. Obviously. They 925 00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: brought in Davante Adams and the Charges. Everybody recognized that 926 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 1: Charges have a great quarterback and hear what they've done 927 00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: some nice things in free agency. Everybody felt that the 928 00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: Broncos were going to make it a big up with 929 00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:38,600 Speaker 1: Corven be up there challenging, and I think it's the 930 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:41,879 Speaker 1: offensive particular has just been erascy. You know, the first 931 00:41:41,920 --> 00:41:44,160 Speaker 1: couple of games, we haven't seen much from them. They 932 00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:46,560 Speaker 1: got a little bit better and Sunday, but there's still 933 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,239 Speaker 1: a lot to play, a bit a lot to do 934 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:50,839 Speaker 1: that there are three at eleven and first down, sorry 935 00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 1: on tore downs on Sunday a little bit more vertical. 936 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,239 Speaker 1: I still didn't think the offense was in abergant. Here's 937 00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: what we expected to see. Quite surprised that hasn't really 938 00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: materialized so far for s us No. I agree. I 939 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 1: had the Broncos winning the s C West that I thought. 940 00:42:04,719 --> 00:42:06,440 Speaker 1: I thought the Chiefs would struggle a little bit more 941 00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: with their you know, new wide receiver corps. No Tiree kill, 942 00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,080 Speaker 1: But boy, they have just kept rolling. And the Chargers 943 00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: typically they've had a million injuries because that's the Chargers, 944 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:15,840 Speaker 1: and they can't catch your break a lot like the 945 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:19,279 Speaker 1: Giants with the injuries. But boy, that Patrick Mahomes, you 946 00:42:19,360 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: gotta tip your cap to him and Andy Reid. You know, 947 00:42:22,680 --> 00:42:24,520 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna call him no name receiving corps, but 948 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:26,400 Speaker 1: they certainly don't have a Tyreek kill. You know, Jujuice 949 00:42:26,400 --> 00:42:29,640 Speaker 1: Smith Schuster a good receiver, um, But boy, they have 950 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: just continued to roll and what they did to that 951 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,000 Speaker 1: really good Bucks defense, which frankly was playing like the 952 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,040 Speaker 1: best defensive football the first three weeks of the season. 953 00:42:37,560 --> 00:42:41,560 Speaker 1: Um on Sunday night, I was really really impressive, John, 954 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:43,759 Speaker 1: There's a feeling the Chiefs. It's probably very gary in 955 00:42:43,800 --> 00:42:45,520 Speaker 1: the season, but there's a feel like they're gonna Shlouten 956 00:42:45,560 --> 00:42:47,560 Speaker 1: run to the radar because there's been so much expected 957 00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:49,960 Speaker 1: him over the course to last three or four years 958 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:51,920 Speaker 1: since they won that Super Bowl. As you said, the 959 00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: offense is very it's been very enough differings. You know, 960 00:42:54,640 --> 00:42:57,439 Speaker 1: it's obviously been some major changes there and not maybe 961 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,759 Speaker 1: people are talking about my notityet a really strong perform 962 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:02,680 Speaker 1: so something even since then, it's more about other teams 963 00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: and the Eagles. It might suit and you're to have 964 00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:07,440 Speaker 1: the pressure taken after they can just scull out their 965 00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: business throughout the course of the season. Yeah. Look, and 966 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:13,120 Speaker 1: I think, yeah, you might be right, and maybe the 967 00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:16,320 Speaker 1: r being overlooked a little bit. And you know, I 968 00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,320 Speaker 1: think the other thing that I think is to surprise 969 00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:19,920 Speaker 1: me a little bit. As the Saints have struggle as 970 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:21,480 Speaker 1: much as they have are in the year, mark just 971 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 1: one in three you know Winston has been hurt, Andy 972 00:43:24,120 --> 00:43:26,759 Speaker 1: Dalton's capable, but their defense has aten as consistent as 973 00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:28,319 Speaker 1: I would have thought. You know, I thought they had 974 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:29,759 Speaker 1: a real chance of being a playoff team, and they 975 00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:31,399 Speaker 1: still do. It's only four games or one in three, 976 00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:33,480 Speaker 1: but I thought the scenes would have come out to 977 00:43:33,520 --> 00:43:37,160 Speaker 1: a little bit of a quicker start. Yeah, I suppose 978 00:43:37,280 --> 00:43:40,080 Speaker 1: I didn't expect as much of them. I you know, 979 00:43:40,200 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: I put a huge empsis on coaching and losing Sean Payton, 980 00:43:43,440 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: losing the appointments of genius was a big part of it. 981 00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:48,719 Speaker 1: I mean last season, you have to remember when they 982 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,480 Speaker 1: didn't have their first two options at starting quarterback, they 983 00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:54,399 Speaker 1: went over five. That's what sunk them. They were nine 984 00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,359 Speaker 1: and three when they have Winston and Hill there as 985 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 1: a tandem to play. So he was you know, he 986 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,000 Speaker 1: was king. You know, what's the expression of silk purse 987 00:44:02,040 --> 00:44:04,759 Speaker 1: out of sales here in terms of a limited enough 988 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,160 Speaker 1: range at quarterback there in the first instance. And I 989 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:09,960 Speaker 1: just felt, like Dennis Allen, I agree with you. The 990 00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:12,600 Speaker 1: defense has been surprisingly dropped a little bit. You know, 991 00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:16,360 Speaker 1: you've got talent like Latmore, You've got Davenpool and Cameron 992 00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,160 Speaker 1: Jordan of course, there was so much talent, but you 993 00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:22,279 Speaker 1: watched the game of the weekend. They weren't efficient. They're 994 00:44:22,280 --> 00:44:24,759 Speaker 1: not stopping on defense, they were there before, they were 995 00:44:24,800 --> 00:44:27,040 Speaker 1: embarrassed a little bit by the Falcons. They were very 996 00:44:27,120 --> 00:44:30,360 Speaker 1: lucky in that Week one game obviously, so they're conceiving 997 00:44:30,400 --> 00:44:32,759 Speaker 1: a lot of points, but clearly on offense they have 998 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:36,160 Speaker 1: lost a significant step. And you're right that South Division 999 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:38,880 Speaker 1: still up for grabs. I did expect the Bucks to 1000 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,800 Speaker 1: be walking away with a bit more than this. The 1001 00:44:41,880 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: Falcons are scrappy. The Panthers are lost at the moment. Still, 1002 00:44:45,840 --> 00:44:48,839 Speaker 1: Matt Rule has to be on the hot seat, out 1003 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:52,560 Speaker 1: the door, burning in the firing infunto of hell, whatever 1004 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,920 Speaker 1: you want to refer to it. But like you know, 1005 00:44:55,120 --> 00:44:57,520 Speaker 1: they need a quarterback and it's not Baker Mayfield and 1006 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,640 Speaker 1: it's sure as Helen Sam Darnald either, So um, they've 1007 00:45:00,680 --> 00:45:02,960 Speaker 1: got they've got a lot of repairing today. Yeah. I 1008 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,080 Speaker 1: don't think the offensive coordinator is helping much down there 1009 00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,040 Speaker 1: either or just watching the way they played the Giants 1010 00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,279 Speaker 1: as a very simple scheme, not a lot going on. 1011 00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:11,640 Speaker 1: I mean, d J. Moore is a he's a very 1012 00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,839 Speaker 1: good wide receiver and they cannot figure out a way 1013 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:17,480 Speaker 1: Brian to get him the ball down there. No, they've 1014 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:20,720 Speaker 1: been very disjointed and we saw that in the second 1015 00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:24,960 Speaker 1: game against the Panthers, the Joints gamegainst the Panthers, they 1016 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:26,560 Speaker 1: couldn't really move the ball for a large person of 1017 00:45:26,840 --> 00:45:29,760 Speaker 1: the game was similar scenario and Sunday with Baker Mayfield. 1018 00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:32,000 Speaker 1: I mean, at what stage America's a littered to Sam 1019 00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:35,680 Speaker 1: Darren there like, at what stage is Baker Mayfield be 1020 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,800 Speaker 1: taken out? Because unforcedly it has a materialously. He played 1021 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:40,920 Speaker 1: reasonably well in the fourth quarter the Forcet game against 1022 00:45:40,920 --> 00:45:43,759 Speaker 1: the Browns with a point to prove before over the 1023 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:45,800 Speaker 1: body to walk over the force fall games, it's not 1024 00:45:45,880 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: good enough, you know. And you can see on Sundays 1025 00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:50,319 Speaker 1: rest as Panthers fans out there or they have been 1026 00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: McAdoo and was supposed to be the answer, wasn't it 1027 00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,239 Speaker 1: John to go in there and resolve the users on 1028 00:45:55,280 --> 00:45:58,040 Speaker 1: offense That hasn't hasn't been the case. Doesn't come as 1029 00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 1: a surprise, but I do think to have to make 1030 00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,960 Speaker 1: a de season quarterback because they can't continue with a quarterback. Essentially, 1031 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,719 Speaker 1: he's just not going to do the job. Yeah, and 1032 00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,600 Speaker 1: I think generally guys around the NFL, I think that 1033 00:46:08,680 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: kind of is interesting to me. You know, we're down 1034 00:46:10,760 --> 00:46:13,759 Speaker 1: to one undefeated team. Eagles are the only team that's 1035 00:46:13,800 --> 00:46:16,680 Speaker 1: four now, and there's only one team that doesn't have 1036 00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,880 Speaker 1: a win, the Houston Texans. You know, this is it's 1037 00:46:19,920 --> 00:46:22,319 Speaker 1: a mess. I mean, let's be honest. An f C North, 1038 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: you're three teams that are two and two, an f 1039 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 1: C South, the two teams leading or two and two, 1040 00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:28,279 Speaker 1: the n f C West, the two teams that are 1041 00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,880 Speaker 1: two and two the end of the NFC South, and 1042 00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,879 Speaker 1: at the NFC West, every team is two and two. 1043 00:46:33,080 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: I mean, this is just one big mess of teams 1044 00:46:36,160 --> 00:46:38,800 Speaker 1: in the middle. And again aside from the Eagle, so 1045 00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,160 Speaker 1: I agree, I love their roster. Didn't think Jalen Hurst 1046 00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: was ready to take the lead that he has, and 1047 00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,000 Speaker 1: again it's early. We gotta wait to see what happens 1048 00:46:44,000 --> 00:46:45,600 Speaker 1: the rest of the year. You know, they played Dallas 1049 00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,080 Speaker 1: in two weeks on Sunday Night. That will be a 1050 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:48,720 Speaker 1: really good match up to see how he does against 1051 00:46:48,719 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: the top defense. But this league right now, it is 1052 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,719 Speaker 1: just a a pool of teams I think trying to 1053 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,520 Speaker 1: figure things out. Mark and you know, I think it's 1054 00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,000 Speaker 1: gonna be a fun final. I guess what is it now, 1055 00:46:59,080 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: twelve weeks or a third team weeks, whatever it is, 1056 00:47:01,120 --> 00:47:04,000 Speaker 1: as we figure out, you know what teams are going 1057 00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,200 Speaker 1: to rise to the top here other than maybe the 1058 00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:08,040 Speaker 1: Eagles and the Chiefs in the Bills, teams that we 1059 00:47:08,120 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 1: think already he can have already there everything else. I 1060 00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:12,719 Speaker 1: don't think we know what damn thing about this league 1061 00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:17,000 Speaker 1: right now. Well, I mean, this is why Roger delle 1062 00:47:17,040 --> 00:47:19,360 Speaker 1: and everyone in the NFL officers and New Yorkers rubbing 1063 00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:21,600 Speaker 1: their hands big league. This is this is glorious. They 1064 00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,279 Speaker 1: want parity. I mean you alluded to. I think in 1065 00:47:24,320 --> 00:47:27,600 Speaker 1: twenty we had seven teams entering October who were unbeaten. 1066 00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:31,360 Speaker 1: One there was five. This year is one. You know, 1067 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:33,920 Speaker 1: that's exactly what they want. They want parity, They want 1068 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:35,680 Speaker 1: everything in the middle of They want everyone to believe 1069 00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: there's a way forward. I'm going to give a shout 1070 00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:40,439 Speaker 1: out to my co host heroes on with you, Brian 1071 00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:42,800 Speaker 1: and Leary. Every year is the best and biggest Giants 1072 00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:45,160 Speaker 1: fan I know in my entire life, and every year 1073 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:48,319 Speaker 1: in the around week eleven or twelve, he still comes 1074 00:47:48,400 --> 00:47:50,080 Speaker 1: up maybe a bit earlier, Brian, you still come up 1075 00:47:50,080 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: with an amazing way how the Giants is going to 1076 00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,080 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, and the logic is in disputeal He 1077 00:47:55,239 --> 00:47:57,239 Speaker 1: was like, no, we're gonna win this and they're gonna 1078 00:47:57,280 --> 00:47:59,800 Speaker 1: lose and this, and he always has this plan. But 1079 00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,319 Speaker 1: in many respects, that's what the league wants. They want 1080 00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:04,799 Speaker 1: Brian for the Giants and everyone for all thirty two 1081 00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,200 Speaker 1: franchises to still believe, still see a path. So their 1082 00:48:09,320 --> 00:48:11,719 Speaker 1: loving this, but you're right, we still go shake it out. 1083 00:48:11,840 --> 00:48:14,759 Speaker 1: Like we've seen some teams start really hot and they 1084 00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,600 Speaker 1: might cool off. We've seen some teams very shaky to 1085 00:48:17,640 --> 00:48:20,000 Speaker 1: begin with. Who might put it all together? The Packers 1086 00:48:20,040 --> 00:48:22,520 Speaker 1: the one I worry about, if you like, in terms 1087 00:48:22,600 --> 00:48:25,200 Speaker 1: of suddenly getting it all together, because they've got the 1088 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:27,840 Speaker 1: run game, they've got the defense, and you'd have to 1089 00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:30,560 Speaker 1: believe after sentering games, dam Rogers, somehow we'll figure it 1090 00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,319 Speaker 1: out with at least one or two of his wide 1091 00:48:32,360 --> 00:48:34,680 Speaker 1: receivers and then they're going to be very difficult. Stop. 1092 00:48:34,719 --> 00:48:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean, they don't play the playoffs in Week four. 1093 00:48:37,560 --> 00:48:39,719 Speaker 1: They've got plenty of time to work through these kings. 1094 00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,640 Speaker 1: And I do go back to my beloved Patriots and 1095 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,360 Speaker 1: talk about Bill Belichick a few years ago almost treating 1096 00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,160 Speaker 1: the first few weeks the season like the preseason, because 1097 00:48:49,160 --> 00:48:52,280 Speaker 1: he said, like, you know, with limited practices, with limited 1098 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,759 Speaker 1: experiences at preseason, you need to use that time to 1099 00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,600 Speaker 1: get to know your team a bit better. And maybe 1100 00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,600 Speaker 1: there's just more of the teams that are kind of 1101 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,759 Speaker 1: still finding their way at this point in time, no 1102 00:49:02,920 --> 00:49:04,959 Speaker 1: question about it. And Brian, the NFC East is giving 1103 00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,640 Speaker 1: you a desist on on that a little bit too 1104 00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,839 Speaker 1: late in the year with oh, is it two years ago? 1105 00:49:09,000 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 1: I think the Giants, gosh, I think it was two 1106 00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,040 Speaker 1: years ago. There were like three and eight, but they 1107 00:49:13,080 --> 00:49:14,439 Speaker 1: were like a game and a half out of first 1108 00:49:14,480 --> 00:49:16,759 Speaker 1: place in the NFC Easter or something crazy like that. 1109 00:49:16,880 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: You're going to the like late November and there's still 1110 00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:20,319 Speaker 1: in it. Even though that I think there were three 1111 00:49:20,320 --> 00:49:22,360 Speaker 1: and eight or four at eight. It was crazy. We 1112 00:49:22,760 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: finished with five wins, John and in week seventeen, we 1113 00:49:26,719 --> 00:49:30,160 Speaker 1: we were annoyed. And that's Someday night game Giants Philadelphia. 1114 00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,719 Speaker 1: Peterson decided to take and jan and hurts out a 1115 00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: game for some unknown reason. I'm still there, as you 1116 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:41,000 Speaker 1: can measure. I'm still of over that, but yeah, five wins. Imagineming, 1117 00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:43,040 Speaker 1: I think the record market color on the show at 1118 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: the time was that's actually sorry, I be won six 1119 00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,200 Speaker 1: games that season. I think seven and nine was the 1120 00:49:47,239 --> 00:49:50,120 Speaker 1: record was karennined and in that year it became Washington. 1121 00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,560 Speaker 1: But yeah, we finished with six wins and nudly we're 1122 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:55,879 Speaker 1: actressy come into the playoffs. The Giants official connected TV 1123 00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:58,520 Speaker 1: streaming at Giants TV brings original video content and game 1124 00:49:58,600 --> 00:50:00,520 Speaker 1: high It's on demand and directly the big with fans. 1125 00:50:00,560 --> 00:50:02,960 Speaker 1: Giants TV is for you and Apple TV, Roku and 1126 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:06,120 Speaker 1: Amazon Fire TV and the Giants mobile app. Mark. You 1127 00:50:06,239 --> 00:50:10,000 Speaker 1: mentioned the Packers matchup. You watched them play your beloved 1128 00:50:10,080 --> 00:50:13,160 Speaker 1: Patriots last week. Your thoughts watching that game on on 1129 00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:15,359 Speaker 1: what the Giants have in store taken on Green Bay 1130 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:20,759 Speaker 1: this week. Um, they're rushing offenses for real. They've got 1131 00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,960 Speaker 1: their lines somewhat sorted out in that regard, and you know, 1132 00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:27,239 Speaker 1: the one two punch they packed there is immense and 1133 00:50:27,320 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: that defense is certainly for real. I think they've had 1134 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,359 Speaker 1: an underrated defense last couple of years. Last year they 1135 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,279 Speaker 1: had a couple of big injuries. As I are Alexander 1136 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,400 Speaker 1: was out for most of the year. Um, you know, 1137 00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 1: they had issues of pass rusher, they had issues at cornerback. 1138 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:44,719 Speaker 1: They've rectified them, and this might be okay. I'll give 1139 00:50:44,719 --> 00:50:47,880 Speaker 1: you a Patriots comparison two thousand and three. They relied 1140 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,160 Speaker 1: upon Corey Dillon and Brady for a bit on third down, 1141 00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:54,120 Speaker 1: but it was Dylan and defense was basically what drove 1142 00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 1: the Patriots to a super Bowl that year. That might 1143 00:50:56,840 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: be the way forward. Somebody said, like, hey, wasn't it 1144 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,760 Speaker 1: weird watching that? But game that Rogers was playing like Brady, 1145 00:51:02,840 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: and Brady was playing like Rogers. Brady was trying to 1146 00:51:05,239 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 1: shove it down the field, sing it down on the seams, 1147 00:51:08,120 --> 00:51:11,360 Speaker 1: out routes, big downfield passes to Evans, and Rogers was 1148 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:14,080 Speaker 1: just taking while he could get from the defense and 1149 00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:18,279 Speaker 1: just methodically marched them down the field. So you've got 1150 00:51:18,320 --> 00:51:20,919 Speaker 1: a different Aaron Rodgers. Maybe Bill Belichick where a little 1151 00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:23,320 Speaker 1: bit of a script. I mean, Giants fans would know 1152 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:25,200 Speaker 1: him doing a good job of that in eighty six 1153 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,240 Speaker 1: and ninety as well in terms of how to defend 1154 00:51:28,280 --> 00:51:31,320 Speaker 1: this team, because he certainly gave Rogers fits all season 1155 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:35,279 Speaker 1: with a let's face it a limited Patriots side, so um, 1156 00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:39,080 Speaker 1: they can be got to But I just worry about 1157 00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 1: their efficiency. That's what it comes down to. They're not 1158 00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: hopefully for their sake, sorry not necessarily for yours. They're 1159 00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:48,080 Speaker 1: not going to beat themselves. They He's still trying to 1160 00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,359 Speaker 1: get the connection with their receivers. But it's that run game. 1161 00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,520 Speaker 1: I don't know. I mean, I think Patriots gave ou 1162 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: a hundred ninety nine yards and I know the Giants 1163 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:57,920 Speaker 1: defense is impressive and you've done made a lot of improvements, 1164 00:51:58,040 --> 00:52:00,839 Speaker 1: especially along the line, But all you're gonna be able 1165 00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:02,800 Speaker 1: to stop a lot shunting out the odds, you know, 1166 00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: Margat's funny, Brian I were talking about before you popped on, 1167 00:52:05,040 --> 00:52:06,799 Speaker 1: and Brian, I'll come back to you. You know, one 1168 00:52:06,880 --> 00:52:09,560 Speaker 1: number that jumped out to me is the Packers lead 1169 00:52:09,640 --> 00:52:12,839 Speaker 1: the league in yards after the catch four and ninety six. 1170 00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:15,240 Speaker 1: So to Mark's point, it's a lot of short stuff. 1171 00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,080 Speaker 1: Set these guys up quick screens, let them run. And 1172 00:52:18,200 --> 00:52:20,560 Speaker 1: it's funny. You look at this Packer team, and yes, 1173 00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is the quarterback, but I think I think 1174 00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,239 Speaker 1: Mark hitting right on the head. You look at the 1175 00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:27,439 Speaker 1: strength of their team. I think the biggest strength there's 1176 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,640 Speaker 1: a defense, their second biggest strength of the running game. 1177 00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 1: Then you get Darren Rodgers third, which is kind of crazy, 1178 00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:36,319 Speaker 1: and I think that's probably a good sign for them 1179 00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,400 Speaker 1: going forward. And that's what's gonna be tough about this 1180 00:52:38,480 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 1: matchup with the Giants on Sunday. Yeah, we could have 1181 00:52:41,200 --> 00:52:43,280 Speaker 1: touched on John. For me, right now, the most effective 1182 00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:45,719 Speaker 1: player is not necessarily Aaron Rodgers. It's Aaron Jones because 1183 00:52:46,200 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 1: he's such a dynamic running back, but he's also very 1184 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:50,560 Speaker 1: good in tends of receptions. And we touched on the 1185 00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,080 Speaker 1: screen passes where you can go for years. That's the 1186 00:52:53,120 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 1: type of stuff we really need to be gonna go 1187 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,600 Speaker 1: aware of them, aware of and Sunday that let's not 1188 00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: have them get outside of the parameter and go just 1189 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,520 Speaker 1: because it'll be a long day. And if, as Mark said, 1190 00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:05,000 Speaker 1: if he can potarchically go up down the field. We're 1191 00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:07,920 Speaker 1: so used in Rogers the big players down the field, 1192 00:53:07,960 --> 00:53:09,680 Speaker 1: but that seems to have got away, you know, And 1193 00:53:09,760 --> 00:53:11,800 Speaker 1: I may come back in James just want to transition 1194 00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 1: to a new offense, but right now it's pretty much 1195 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,520 Speaker 1: Potarcicle used to running back sufficiently. You talked about the 1196 00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:18,680 Speaker 1: one two punch as well a j. I mean they 1197 00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:20,720 Speaker 1: have the players there to do a lot of damage, 1198 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,800 Speaker 1: but we need to slow them down, you know, and 1199 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:24,080 Speaker 1: we have done that through it of course of it 1200 00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 1: for us four weeks of the season. I mean the 1201 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,600 Speaker 1: most you've given up as twenty three points to Wink 1202 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,319 Speaker 1: Martin Needle. As we said earlier on the show, needs 1203 00:53:30,320 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: to be commended for the workers done, which which such 1204 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:36,320 Speaker 1: a nit that. Like you said, there's not many significant 1205 00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:38,920 Speaker 1: names in the NFL, but there are working compute together 1206 00:53:39,320 --> 00:53:42,120 Speaker 1: to put together a great defense. Yeah. Mark, I'm sure 1207 00:53:42,120 --> 00:53:43,880 Speaker 1: you're tired of hearing Brian talk about the Giants, but 1208 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: I will give you a chance to give it, to 1209 00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,719 Speaker 1: give it your take on the Giants three and one 1210 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:51,720 Speaker 1: starts so far, which obviously has been a pleasant surprise 1211 00:53:51,760 --> 00:53:54,880 Speaker 1: for all Giant fans. Well well after week one, I 1212 00:53:54,920 --> 00:53:57,279 Speaker 1: actually had you down to go forward and said, so 1213 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,719 Speaker 1: you let me down on the Cowboy game. Guys, So 1214 00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:04,000 Speaker 1: there have been a pleasant surprise. I'm delighted for Brian 1215 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,399 Speaker 1: and tied for Giants fans. Generally. You've had a few 1216 00:54:06,520 --> 00:54:09,359 Speaker 1: lean years, to be honest with you, um, so it's 1217 00:54:09,400 --> 00:54:11,960 Speaker 1: good to see them. You know, pulling things together. But 1218 00:54:12,080 --> 00:54:13,719 Speaker 1: it's funny. You just broke down the Packers and you 1219 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: said the strongest suit is probably their defense, the second 1220 00:54:16,800 --> 00:54:19,880 Speaker 1: strongest their rushing attack, and then third strongest is quarterback. 1221 00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:23,160 Speaker 1: I'd rank the Giants the exact same way. That defense 1222 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,080 Speaker 1: and the way that defense is playing is the most 1223 00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:29,000 Speaker 1: impressive thing about how you started. And you've had good defenses, 1224 00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:31,640 Speaker 1: you know, in the past and obviously even in recent years. 1225 00:54:32,400 --> 00:54:34,800 Speaker 1: See Quan being back is a game changer, there's no 1226 00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,319 Speaker 1: doubt about it. Um. But the problem a little bit 1227 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,840 Speaker 1: as well as like is the the quarterback is the 1228 00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:43,840 Speaker 1: third and that is the problem as well, Like there's 1229 00:54:43,920 --> 00:54:47,879 Speaker 1: not enough dynamism, there's not enough offense. Frankly, and you're 1230 00:54:47,880 --> 00:54:50,000 Speaker 1: saying about you know, you've held teams to twenty three points, 1231 00:54:50,280 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 1: which is great. If you hold this Packers team twenty 1232 00:54:52,840 --> 00:54:56,520 Speaker 1: three points, I as a neutral, semi neutral, would say, 1233 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,040 Speaker 1: I don't know if I trust this Giants team to 1234 00:54:59,160 --> 00:55:01,800 Speaker 1: get twenty four. You know, is the offense going to 1235 00:55:01,880 --> 00:55:03,960 Speaker 1: generate that. I saw a stat during the week, like 1236 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:10,040 Speaker 1: big plays rushes over ten yards, receiving receptions over twenty yards. 1237 00:55:10,520 --> 00:55:12,439 Speaker 1: The rams are at the very bottom of the pile 1238 00:55:12,680 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: all right there. I think only sixteen of these plays 1239 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:17,279 Speaker 1: Giants are in the top ten, but when you break 1240 00:55:17,360 --> 00:55:20,440 Speaker 1: it down, nearly all of them are rushes. They've only 1241 00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:23,719 Speaker 1: had four receptions over twenty yards. So and it's not 1242 00:55:23,840 --> 00:55:26,680 Speaker 1: like you lack for quality in the wide receiver positions. 1243 00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:29,399 Speaker 1: And I'm sure there's plenty talked about when your wide 1244 00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: receiver one and the relationship going on there at times, 1245 00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:36,720 Speaker 1: but that's the issue, like where you know Daniel Jones 1246 00:55:37,719 --> 00:55:40,080 Speaker 1: that we could have a whole two hours talking about 1247 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:43,439 Speaker 1: Daniel Jones, I'm sure in relation to it, but where 1248 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,040 Speaker 1: is that offense is the biggest problem and the biggest 1249 00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:49,840 Speaker 1: gap from you taking it from here going on to 1250 00:55:49,920 --> 00:55:52,640 Speaker 1: develop and have a really successful season. You know, Brian, 1251 00:55:52,680 --> 00:55:54,879 Speaker 1: that's actually true. We didn't talk about you know, Daniel Jones, 1252 00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:56,719 Speaker 1: and Giants want to make a decision after the year 1253 00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,319 Speaker 1: on him, right, Um, this cartracts up. Obviously they can 1254 00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:02,080 Speaker 1: franchise him with they want or you know, long term deal, 1255 00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,759 Speaker 1: short term deal, whatever your thoughts on what Jones has 1256 00:56:04,760 --> 00:56:06,640 Speaker 1: showing this career so far and what the chances are 1257 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: and again they have to make the decision. Now they 1258 00:56:08,239 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of time to figure this out on 1259 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,359 Speaker 1: whether or not he's the long term answer. I would 1260 00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,320 Speaker 1: just come down this season. I've seen the use improvement 1261 00:56:15,360 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: in terms of how he looks after the ball. He's not, 1262 00:56:17,920 --> 00:56:19,759 Speaker 1: you know, not making poor decisions with the ball. I 1263 00:56:19,800 --> 00:56:22,640 Speaker 1: think he's been well coached and joints fans for a 1264 00:56:22,680 --> 00:56:25,680 Speaker 1: long term and felt that he was a good quarterback 1265 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,120 Speaker 1: just needed the right coaching and the right offensive coordinator. 1266 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:29,719 Speaker 1: And that seems to be the case. And we spoke 1267 00:56:29,760 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: are on about who has been utilized in their rown 1268 00:56:31,480 --> 00:56:33,960 Speaker 1: game as a running quarterback. They're getting the best of 1269 00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:36,520 Speaker 1: them with limited resources of them. If he has some 1270 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:39,719 Speaker 1: more significant word of savers. So I think we touched 1271 00:56:39,719 --> 00:56:41,680 Speaker 1: on the area and you show to have Tensy, Tony 1272 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:45,280 Speaker 1: and Robinson avelopment Sunday would be a huge, a huge uplift. 1273 00:56:45,560 --> 00:56:47,360 Speaker 1: It's a different one for the for the GM we 1274 00:56:47,719 --> 00:56:49,040 Speaker 1: as I said, we had chow Chane and during the 1275 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,480 Speaker 1: summer and on our show. It's difficult for him the 1276 00:56:52,520 --> 00:56:55,000 Speaker 1: long term because if your franchise taken, you're only kicking 1277 00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:56,440 Speaker 1: the can down the road for another year and you're 1278 00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:58,239 Speaker 1: gonna have to give Turty four million. I believe is 1279 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,680 Speaker 1: the average salary the franchise barn Amoy and what sultury 1280 00:57:01,719 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: cap would be next year. So you're only taking your tony, 1281 00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:07,000 Speaker 1: you're only taking towards you FOURM and M out of 1282 00:57:07,040 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: your salary cap. If the error two recontract him the 1283 00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,600 Speaker 1: obviously he can transition that into four or five years, 1284 00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:14,680 Speaker 1: which is a bit more sustainable in terms of what 1285 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:17,800 Speaker 1: you want to do in free agency with the budget 1286 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,040 Speaker 1: that's available the next year, which is considerably more than 1287 00:57:20,080 --> 00:57:22,360 Speaker 1: what it was t shirt. But it's just a very 1288 00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:25,840 Speaker 1: difficult decision because he's had I think the bad years 1289 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: are going to tell the Outwagh the good years, and 1290 00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:29,880 Speaker 1: that's us might come down to next year and we 1291 00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:31,520 Speaker 1: have to bear Amoy and this GM and just head 1292 00:57:31,560 --> 00:57:34,160 Speaker 1: coach and tight. They didn't bring him in, so it's 1293 00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,640 Speaker 1: not easy for them to make a decision. I'm sorry 1294 00:57:37,680 --> 00:57:40,200 Speaker 1: brought him into up, but you know you're right. And 1295 00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:42,480 Speaker 1: then I think sae Quan is the same decision. Right 1296 00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:44,280 Speaker 1: he's on the last year of his deal and more. 1297 00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:47,720 Speaker 1: You talked about how dynamic he's been. He's really put 1298 00:57:47,800 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: this offense on his back in a lot of ways 1299 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:51,400 Speaker 1: and carry them through the first few weeks of the year, 1300 00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,680 Speaker 1: and the history of second contracts for running backs is 1301 00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,640 Speaker 1: not great. But he's also not doesn't have a lot 1302 00:57:59,680 --> 00:58:01,080 Speaker 1: of chart off the tire because of a lot of 1303 00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:03,400 Speaker 1: the injuries the last couple of years sold. That's gonna 1304 00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:06,120 Speaker 1: be a very tough decision at the end of the year. 1305 00:58:06,200 --> 00:58:08,840 Speaker 1: Given the type of person, say Kuan Is, how important 1306 00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,720 Speaker 1: he's been to the team. We'll see if that continues, 1307 00:58:10,760 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 1: if he can stay healthy. But the history is is 1308 00:58:13,400 --> 00:58:14,960 Speaker 1: not great. That's gonna be a really tough thing to 1309 00:58:15,000 --> 00:58:18,160 Speaker 1: bounce out there. If you're Joshane and the Giants, It's 1310 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:22,400 Speaker 1: it's almost a Sophie's choice type of situation. I mean second, 1311 00:58:23,040 --> 00:58:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean Christie McCaffrey, prime example. In the off season 1312 00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,200 Speaker 1: their middle of COVID and he's locked up with his 1313 00:58:28,320 --> 00:58:30,800 Speaker 1: Sports Illustrated girlfriends and he's having a tough time because 1314 00:58:30,800 --> 00:58:34,000 Speaker 1: he signed a hundred old million deal and then he's 1315 00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:37,160 Speaker 1: barely seen the field sense because he's had significant injuries. 1316 00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 1: And by the way, he had and he had no 1317 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:41,600 Speaker 1: injury issues before he signed that contract. He had been healthy. 1318 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,840 Speaker 1: That's exactly it. That's exactly it. He was absolutely healthy. 1319 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,520 Speaker 1: It made perfect sense. Alvin Kamarres for you know, second 1320 00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:51,680 Speaker 1: deal made perfect sense. Zeke Zeke Elliott. I mean, you 1321 00:58:51,720 --> 00:58:53,919 Speaker 1: can question the Cowboy's logic on that one in terms 1322 00:58:53,960 --> 00:58:56,840 Speaker 1: of the level, but again, they thought they were paying 1323 00:58:57,120 --> 00:58:59,440 Speaker 1: for the future production. And the reality is that running 1324 00:58:59,440 --> 00:59:02,520 Speaker 1: back position has evolved so dramatically. It's now the least 1325 00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,480 Speaker 1: valued position frankly in terms of franchise tag in the 1326 00:59:05,640 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: entire NFL. Or maybe safety slightly below it, but it's 1327 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:13,240 Speaker 1: it's certainly down near the bottom um. And the second 1328 00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,960 Speaker 1: year second contracts just have not paid out. So if 1329 00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: you're Joe shown and bearing in mind the salary cap, 1330 00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:20,240 Speaker 1: hell he's already had to deal with reminds me a 1331 00:59:20,280 --> 00:59:22,680 Speaker 1: lot of when tannebar left the Jet. He's dealing with 1332 00:59:22,800 --> 00:59:25,240 Speaker 1: the crap from the prior administration, let's be fair. He's 1333 00:59:25,280 --> 00:59:28,760 Speaker 1: had to make some horrible decisions this offseason, Blake Martinez 1334 00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,640 Speaker 1: and things like that, the kind of smack of just 1335 00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,680 Speaker 1: trying to get the house in order again, and he's 1336 00:59:34,720 --> 00:59:37,520 Speaker 1: going to have this decision of Okay, do I get 1337 00:59:37,640 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: rid of like the one dynamic talent really that's been 1338 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, excites the fans, gives us a good reason, 1339 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,440 Speaker 1: gives us something to look forward to for the future, 1340 00:59:45,880 --> 00:59:48,160 Speaker 1: or do I scrap it and start from zero again? 1341 00:59:48,440 --> 00:59:50,720 Speaker 1: Because the cleanest way our salary cap hell is don't 1342 00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:54,280 Speaker 1: actually franchise or extend se Kwan because I can pick 1343 00:59:54,360 --> 00:59:57,200 Speaker 1: up running backs cheap. Don't do it with Daniel Jones 1344 00:59:57,200 --> 00:59:59,800 Speaker 1: because I'll get another rookie corn quarterback on a cheap 1345 01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: in a good year and start from scratch again. Your 1346 01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:08,760 Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Brian, The difficulty there, I say is, 1347 01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,160 Speaker 1: and I said it's on our season previous show when 1348 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:13,640 Speaker 1: we did the division that I felt this season, because 1349 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,200 Speaker 1: of the schedule, the Joints at a lot of games 1350 01:00:15,240 --> 01:00:17,720 Speaker 1: and which they could potentially win against teams which I 1351 01:00:18,080 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 1: called at the same level. We've seen it already in 1352 01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:22,520 Speaker 1: terms of beating the Bearers, beating the Panthers, just games 1353 01:00:22,560 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 1: against the Lions, the Jackson Texans, and well maybe we'll 1354 01:00:25,840 --> 01:00:28,440 Speaker 1: show the Colson there the way they started. All due respect, 1355 01:00:28,840 --> 01:00:31,520 Speaker 1: yeah up stairs and Seahawks. So I see, So with 1356 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,400 Speaker 1: all you respected, those seems still probably fel they can 1357 01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: be the Joints as well, but there's a lot of 1358 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:38,600 Speaker 1: winnable games, and my concern is for Joey Jane next 1359 01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:41,600 Speaker 1: season is the joints said you in seven or eight games, 1360 01:00:41,640 --> 01:00:43,600 Speaker 1: but don't make the playoffs. We're in the middle of 1361 01:00:43,640 --> 01:00:45,560 Speaker 1: the pack. Come April in the draft, we'll be picking 1362 01:00:46,200 --> 01:00:49,720 Speaker 1: sixty and seventy ragments, Like what do you do because 1363 01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:51,680 Speaker 1: we don't have we have a little bit of collacterial. 1364 01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:54,320 Speaker 1: We're not enough significant, significant enough to move up to 1365 01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,960 Speaker 1: the top five for these marque quarterbacks that are coming 1366 01:00:57,000 --> 01:00:59,560 Speaker 1: out next year at the c J. Strouds and these 1367 01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:01,640 Speaker 1: guys are going to be in the top five, So 1368 01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,280 Speaker 1: we could be a bit of a quandry. We could 1369 01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 1: be back to finders trying to find a quarterback for 1370 01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,720 Speaker 1: a year. That's just gonna get us, get us boy 1371 01:01:07,760 --> 01:01:10,560 Speaker 1: for here until we make a decision. So that's difficult. 1372 01:01:10,560 --> 01:01:12,080 Speaker 1: That we saw in court Warner since she came in 1373 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:14,400 Speaker 1: as a holding bridge quarterback into the to leon right 1374 01:01:14,440 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: Manning took over, and we might see a similar scenario 1375 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,000 Speaker 1: next year if they decided to me about from Daniel Jones, 1376 01:01:19,720 --> 01:01:21,520 Speaker 1: that's that's the thing I said. But we all want 1377 01:01:21,560 --> 01:01:23,240 Speaker 1: to see the team winning because we've had so many 1378 01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 1: difficult years. We want to be we want to see 1379 01:01:25,680 --> 01:01:28,520 Speaker 1: meaning for meaning for football. In November and December, intensively 1380 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:31,640 Speaker 1: to January. But the caveats that is where would he 1381 01:01:31,640 --> 01:01:34,840 Speaker 1: become aprile when the traff comes around? And I love 1382 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:38,400 Speaker 1: the bridge quarterback, the bridge quarterback Baker Mayfield should be available. 1383 01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:41,120 Speaker 1: It could be perfect. Hey, tyrod T was on a 1384 01:01:41,160 --> 01:01:43,160 Speaker 1: two year deal. He could be the bridge quarterback. To 1385 01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,080 Speaker 1: be quite honest, that these somebody running on the roster. 1386 01:01:46,600 --> 01:01:48,480 Speaker 1: Tyrod was quite impressive when he came into the game 1387 01:01:48,520 --> 01:01:50,800 Speaker 1: and something general. He does exactly what you would expect 1388 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:53,960 Speaker 1: point able to wander with their own past option. And 1389 01:01:54,160 --> 01:01:57,080 Speaker 1: again inevitably he gets the concussion because he goes for 1390 01:01:57,160 --> 01:01:59,880 Speaker 1: that fource down and eat. He essensially puts his body 1391 01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 1: in that naring to make sure to force down. Is 1392 01:02:01,360 --> 01:02:04,800 Speaker 1: the chiefs um? So Yeah, potentially you you would feel 1393 01:02:04,800 --> 01:02:07,520 Speaker 1: comfortable him stepping in, you know, not necessarily over the 1394 01:02:07,560 --> 01:02:09,480 Speaker 1: course for the season, but for two or three games 1395 01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:10,920 Speaker 1: where you're in a position where you need a quarterback 1396 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:12,920 Speaker 1: to go when you cook the games. I believe you 1397 01:02:12,960 --> 01:02:15,200 Speaker 1: can do the job. Yeah, And I think the messages 1398 01:02:15,240 --> 01:02:18,080 Speaker 1: who could be all the quarterbacks slide get out of bounds, 1399 01:02:18,200 --> 01:02:20,440 Speaker 1: Slide get out of bounds with all the injuries that 1400 01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:22,200 Speaker 1: do it with so I'm sure that will be a 1401 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:24,919 Speaker 1: common refrain. Two more things quick before you say goodbye, guys, 1402 01:02:25,200 --> 01:02:27,280 Speaker 1: both of you, one by one. Mark, let's start with you. 1403 01:02:27,600 --> 01:02:30,600 Speaker 1: Tell me what I should know about Tottenham Hotspur the stadium, 1404 01:02:30,920 --> 01:02:32,600 Speaker 1: what your fans know about it. I know it was 1405 01:02:32,640 --> 01:02:34,800 Speaker 1: a stadium built with the NFL and mind they got 1406 01:02:34,880 --> 01:02:38,400 Speaker 1: the cool like sliding field thing. Just tell American fans 1407 01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:40,160 Speaker 1: what they should know about the stadium and why it's 1408 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:44,640 Speaker 1: significant and important to do you guys overseas. So I'm 1409 01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,280 Speaker 1: an Arsenal fan who Tottenham's arch rivals, so I need 1410 01:02:47,320 --> 01:02:49,320 Speaker 1: to tell you that stadium is great, except for the 1411 01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:53,320 Speaker 1: football team that plays in it, because they're horrific um. 1412 01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:56,480 Speaker 1: But other than that, it's a very cool modern stadium. 1413 01:02:56,560 --> 01:02:58,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's not the same Spenders somewhere like so 1414 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,720 Speaker 1: Far or Jerry Well than things like that. But it's 1415 01:03:01,800 --> 01:03:05,280 Speaker 1: really designed, great sight lines, great really feel immersed with 1416 01:03:05,320 --> 01:03:08,680 Speaker 1: the action. It's a typical Premiership soccer type stadium, so 1417 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,600 Speaker 1: you're a lot closer to the action and engaged in 1418 01:03:10,680 --> 01:03:13,240 Speaker 1: that regard. I mean for you, John, actually the press 1419 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:14,960 Speaker 1: boxes right in the middle of the crowd as well, 1420 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:17,120 Speaker 1: you're not up in the gods, so you're actually immersed 1421 01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:19,320 Speaker 1: in the action and really surrounded by the environment as well. 1422 01:03:19,760 --> 01:03:22,280 Speaker 1: But it's a great environment. We talked about the thirty 1423 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,360 Speaker 1: two teams all being supported. There's been a huge number 1424 01:03:25,360 --> 01:03:27,680 Speaker 1: of Giants fans, huge number of Pakast fans. It's a 1425 01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 1: great bowl like stadium to really encapsulate that atmosphere, so 1426 01:03:32,040 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: Giants fans go into it. I have a great time, right. 1427 01:03:36,200 --> 01:03:38,680 Speaker 1: I have sat in the stadium board as a fan 1428 01:03:38,760 --> 01:03:41,400 Speaker 1: and obviously in the media the say there isn't a 1429 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:43,640 Speaker 1: bad seat in the house. John isn't understatement. It's a 1430 01:03:43,680 --> 01:03:46,960 Speaker 1: fantastic stadium. When they put it together, they're very much 1431 01:03:47,240 --> 01:03:49,320 Speaker 1: had the entire process of help would be from a fans, 1432 01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:51,720 Speaker 1: from a fan experience here to go into game. You 1433 01:03:51,800 --> 01:03:53,520 Speaker 1: know when you're going in, you're getting your your feard 1434 01:03:53,520 --> 01:03:56,720 Speaker 1: and your beverages and it's it's just built perfectly. It's 1435 01:03:56,760 --> 01:03:59,680 Speaker 1: built to make sure a supporter of any team when 1436 01:03:59,680 --> 01:04:01,240 Speaker 1: it's into a football game, as we call it, your 1437 01:04:01,280 --> 01:04:03,560 Speaker 1: soccer or a mark football game, that the support of 1438 01:04:03,640 --> 01:04:06,360 Speaker 1: the fan has an enjoyable day. And imagine everybody who 1439 01:04:06,400 --> 01:04:08,000 Speaker 1: gosted the game and Sunday would have an enjoyable day. 1440 01:04:08,040 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: But please God, it's the Giant funds. He are going 1441 01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,280 Speaker 1: home with the smiles on the face. Is this supposed 1442 01:04:13,280 --> 01:04:15,280 Speaker 1: to rain again? Is that what I'm hearing? It's just 1443 01:04:15,400 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: the rain out there on Sunday? What are you guys hearing? John? John? 1444 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:20,200 Speaker 1: It was it was day said on Sunday. We were 1445 01:04:20,200 --> 01:04:22,360 Speaker 1: doing a live show at Tottingham on Sunday, had a 1446 01:04:22,400 --> 01:04:24,440 Speaker 1: rooftop across the road from the stage. He said it 1447 01:04:24,520 --> 01:04:27,840 Speaker 1: was eight chance of rain. It didn't rain at all, 1448 01:04:28,000 --> 01:04:31,160 Speaker 1: and it was sixty and seventy degrees, which I'm not 1449 01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:33,520 Speaker 1: sure what that is in faring right, Maybe Mark knows 1450 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:36,200 Speaker 1: what that is. But it was quite a mild, balmy 1451 01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:38,360 Speaker 1: day and i'd imagine they'll be the same on Sunday. 1452 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,320 Speaker 1: Very good, all right? Selfish John questions that fans can 1453 01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:44,840 Speaker 1: turn this off if they want not. I'm just getting 1454 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,720 Speaker 1: to turn it off yet. Um all right. I know 1455 01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:51,360 Speaker 1: you guys aren't London locals, but I've done I've been 1456 01:04:51,400 --> 01:04:53,560 Speaker 1: there on vacation, on holiday, I've done a lot of 1457 01:04:53,640 --> 01:04:55,520 Speaker 1: the basic tour stuff. I've been there a couple of 1458 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,400 Speaker 1: times with the Giants. I hope to have most of 1459 01:04:57,520 --> 01:05:00,240 Speaker 1: Saturday off. So give me a couple of to the 1460 01:05:00,360 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 1: radar things I need to do while I'm in London, Mark, 1461 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,920 Speaker 1: why don't you leave us off or food? I need 1462 01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,240 Speaker 1: one or the other. Take your pick. I'll take food 1463 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:13,760 Speaker 1: or things to see. Oh my goodness, Like no pressure 1464 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,480 Speaker 1: that John, No pressure. If you you've done the West End, 1465 01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:19,200 Speaker 1: you've done and watch the show. So I've gone and 1466 01:05:19,240 --> 01:05:21,160 Speaker 1: watched the show. Say Saturday Night, got to the West 1467 01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 1: End the way before. Okay, so you go to go 1468 01:05:25,840 --> 01:05:28,200 Speaker 1: to the West End. It's like Broadway obviously, but you know, 1469 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:30,960 Speaker 1: you know the UK people would say it's been on 1470 01:05:30,960 --> 01:05:34,640 Speaker 1: the Broadway, You're gonna say Broadway Spailer, but similar context 1471 01:05:35,080 --> 01:05:37,840 Speaker 1: and it's a very much more English experience in some respects. 1472 01:05:37,880 --> 01:05:41,000 Speaker 1: So it's a different way of experience in the show. Um, 1473 01:05:41,320 --> 01:05:43,480 Speaker 1: if you've done all the tourist things even, just go 1474 01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: for a walk through Hyde Park, go for a stroll, 1475 01:05:45,920 --> 01:05:47,920 Speaker 1: kind of just sitting people watch for a while as 1476 01:05:47,960 --> 01:05:51,080 Speaker 1: Speaker's corner out there and stuff as kind of interesting 1477 01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:55,680 Speaker 1: to see and yeah, just bangers a mash or a 1478 01:05:55,960 --> 01:06:03,280 Speaker 1: steak and kidney pie or something really plan basically, how 1479 01:06:03,280 --> 01:06:05,760 Speaker 1: about you, Brian, your thoughts? I don't know if you've 1480 01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,720 Speaker 1: looked at the schedule, John, is a no premiership match 1481 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: on Saturday afternoon that you could look to attend. I 1482 01:06:09,960 --> 01:06:13,600 Speaker 1: have not locked. You should consider that once in the 1483 01:06:13,720 --> 01:06:16,160 Speaker 1: challenge once in there. Well it's not once in a lifetime. 1484 01:06:16,160 --> 01:06:18,000 Speaker 1: I've changed because the Joints should be over once of 1485 01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,080 Speaker 1: your seven years and again you may not be back 1486 01:06:20,080 --> 01:06:21,840 Speaker 1: for a quint sometime. Maybe you should consider trying to 1487 01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:24,840 Speaker 1: take an a premiership match. And I'm sortay you know, John, 1488 01:06:24,880 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: there's a big Joints fan event on in London. Maybe 1489 01:06:28,080 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: you should be rocking up there and having yourself a 1490 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,600 Speaker 1: couple of beers. Oh have you guys that? Tell me 1491 01:06:32,640 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: where it is. I'll stop by, let me know, email 1492 01:06:35,400 --> 01:06:38,920 Speaker 1: you on the details. Yeah, absolutely, that'll be fun. You 1493 01:06:39,000 --> 01:06:41,000 Speaker 1: know this is passed in my head. You know, Mark, 1494 01:06:41,040 --> 01:06:44,040 Speaker 1: you're a Patriot fan. There's not a lot of Patriot 1495 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,480 Speaker 1: fans in the UK. I imagine the whole Patriot thing 1496 01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:48,400 Speaker 1: might be a sore subject given what happened and like 1497 01:06:48,480 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: you know the late sevres No No, I mean like 1498 01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: it's just the UK Patriots fans know how to drink too. 1499 01:06:56,000 --> 01:06:57,800 Speaker 1: They don't throw it in a Harbor. That's that's the 1500 01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:02,720 Speaker 1: difference the relations. But no, it's actually funny. It's kind 1501 01:07:02,760 --> 01:07:06,200 Speaker 1: of completely glossed over. And yeah, there's a lot more 1502 01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,080 Speaker 1: Patriots fans let's say in two th when I started 1503 01:07:09,120 --> 01:07:11,960 Speaker 1: sporting them as well, I'll say, um, with the years 1504 01:07:12,040 --> 01:07:16,800 Speaker 1: of success of transpired, But there's no there's no sensitivity there. 1505 01:07:16,880 --> 01:07:19,760 Speaker 1: John Well, we're all one big global, happy family together. 1506 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,720 Speaker 1: We are. Of course they're very special alliance on the 1507 01:07:22,760 --> 01:07:25,640 Speaker 1: trans atlantic need of all that good stuff, but us 1508 01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,480 Speaker 1: UK very very good friends. Final thoughts, guys, are you 1509 01:07:28,520 --> 01:07:30,120 Speaker 1: need to talk about the game, talk about your show 1510 01:07:30,200 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: anything fans should know? But I'll leave the floor up 1511 01:07:32,680 --> 01:07:34,280 Speaker 1: into you. Brian lead us off their mark. You can 1512 01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:37,680 Speaker 1: go just tell the fans that you want to tell them. Um. 1513 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,440 Speaker 1: But for anybody who enjoy this just interviewed to see 1514 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,640 Speaker 1: him and it wants to get a bit more of 1515 01:07:42,080 --> 01:07:45,160 Speaker 1: very stuff and once a different a different viewpoints on 1516 01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:48,080 Speaker 1: the NFL from Decided of Warrant M. We have treat 1517 01:07:48,120 --> 01:07:52,040 Speaker 1: our shows a week and you'll get them on Twitter, YouTube, 1518 01:07:52,400 --> 01:07:54,760 Speaker 1: Facebook and they are availing in the podcast form whenever 1519 01:07:54,800 --> 01:07:58,600 Speaker 1: you get your podcast and we're on Twitter at ir NFL. 1520 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 1: Um pick us up and send us any messages, you know. 1521 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:05,440 Speaker 1: And and as for Sunday, I like can know for 1522 01:08:05,560 --> 01:08:08,720 Speaker 1: us that the Giants be really competitive and and give 1523 01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:10,760 Speaker 1: the Packers a game and we'll see how the Chips 1524 01:08:10,800 --> 01:08:15,040 Speaker 1: fallcome the four parter mark. Yeah, I was just gonna 1525 01:08:15,120 --> 01:08:17,120 Speaker 1: warm people that the other two co hosts on our 1526 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,160 Speaker 1: show are Broncos fans, So just you know, parental advisory 1527 01:08:21,200 --> 01:08:24,000 Speaker 1: warning on that. But part of the fun is like 1528 01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:26,519 Speaker 1: like talking with you, John, like we just love talking 1529 01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:30,040 Speaker 1: football markets. Okay, the Bronzels in the super Bowl too, 1530 01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:38,760 Speaker 1: It's okay, Broncos are welcome you now, you're all right, 1531 01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:40,639 Speaker 1: you got the who do across the board in relation 1532 01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:42,360 Speaker 1: to it. Look, I'm just gonna acquire myself to sleep 1533 01:08:42,400 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: with the six super Bow rings. There any bills and 1534 01:08:44,280 --> 01:08:46,040 Speaker 1: you guys can goals with him. We're bringing the bills, 1535 01:08:46,080 --> 01:08:49,560 Speaker 1: Van do Now do you know what we should We 1536 01:08:49,640 --> 01:08:52,759 Speaker 1: should have Bills and Vikings fans as their own factory sadness, 1537 01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 1: like the eight super Bowl losses between them. That would 1538 01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: be the way to the way to go. But look, 1539 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,400 Speaker 1: you know very much, just like talking to you, really 1540 01:09:00,479 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 1: enjoyed chatting to you, really enjoyed. Even though it's two 1541 01:09:02,520 --> 01:09:04,519 Speaker 1: Giants fans and talking to a bunch of Giants fans 1542 01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:08,080 Speaker 1: probably listening in the whole thing is still football, still great, 1543 01:09:08,120 --> 01:09:11,080 Speaker 1: whether it's beside the Atlantic, your side, the Atlantic can't 1544 01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:13,759 Speaker 1: wait to welcome you over and you get to experience 1545 01:09:13,800 --> 01:09:17,439 Speaker 1: it over in London again. And please talking to you ma'am. Yeah, hopefully. Well, 1546 01:09:17,439 --> 01:09:19,280 Speaker 1: a chance to meet about guys, whether it's whether it's 1547 01:09:19,280 --> 01:09:21,000 Speaker 1: on Saturday or at the game on on Sunday. Love 1548 01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:22,479 Speaker 1: to chat with you guys, and you guys can come 1549 01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,360 Speaker 1: hang out in the radio booth. We can. We're gonna 1550 01:09:24,360 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 1: have a good time. Appreciate the time, guys. Make sure 1551 01:09:26,360 --> 01:09:28,040 Speaker 1: you go check out the Irish NFL Show on all 1552 01:09:28,080 --> 01:09:30,720 Speaker 1: your favorite podcast platforms. Guys, thanks so much. I'll see 1553 01:09:30,720 --> 01:09:34,559 Speaker 1: you out there in a couple of days. That's Brian 1554 01:09:34,600 --> 01:09:36,680 Speaker 1: o Leary, that's Mark Cockroll from the Irish NFL Show. 1555 01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 1: We thank them for joining us on the Giants Little Podcast, 1556 01:09:38,479 --> 01:09:40,920 Speaker 1: which is again brought you by PSC and G Energy 1557 01:09:40,960 --> 01:09:44,280 Speaker 1: Efficiency for game day and every day. For the guys, 1558 01:09:44,360 --> 01:09:46,000 Speaker 1: I'm John Schmilk. We'll see you next time.