1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,560 Speaker 1: Don't listening to Fox Sports Radio Radio. All right, who 2 00:00:04,600 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: really won? Who really won? Well, we'll tell you that. 3 00:00:07,760 --> 00:00:10,800 Speaker 1: We'll talk about traditions and history in just about a minute. 4 00:00:10,840 --> 00:00:13,960 Speaker 1: Good morning, everybody. This is Fox Football Sunday on Fox 5 00:00:13,960 --> 00:00:17,079 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. I'm Andy Furman, my partner Bucket Brooks, and 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,320 Speaker 1: we're broadcasting live from the tire rack dot Com studios. 7 00:00:20,360 --> 00:00:22,440 Speaker 1: Tier rack dot com will help you get there and 8 00:00:22,480 --> 00:00:25,000 Speaker 1: on that selection, fast free shipping, free road as a 9 00:00:25,040 --> 00:00:28,520 Speaker 1: protection and over ten thousand recommended in Stollers tire rack 10 00:00:28,600 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: dot com the way tire buying should be. And of course, 11 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: we want to wish everybody a most pleasant holiday season. 12 00:00:34,479 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: I hope you had a merry Christmas, wonderful, happy Hanukah, 13 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: happy Kwanza, and a happy, healthy New Year's to come. 14 00:00:41,240 --> 00:00:43,600 Speaker 1: Because this is our last show of the year, twenty 15 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 1: twenty four. All right, and look, I understand there was 16 00:00:46,360 --> 00:00:50,480 Speaker 1: tremendous football yesterday, implications in the playoff situations and things 17 00:00:50,560 --> 00:00:52,760 Speaker 1: like that. Let me put that in the back burner 18 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:55,000 Speaker 1: for just a second. A couple of things. I want 19 00:00:55,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: to get off my chest, all right. My chest isn't 20 00:00:57,360 --> 00:00:59,280 Speaker 1: that big, but I just want to get it off there. Okay, 21 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:01,440 Speaker 1: I want to go back to Christmas Day if I can. 22 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:04,920 Speaker 1: All right, let's talk about Christmas Day. What exactly happened 23 00:01:05,080 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 1: on Christmas Day? When I say, who won? I talk 24 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:10,800 Speaker 1: about tradition. Let's talk about the NBA thing on Christmas Day. 25 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: Talk about Lebron James, the King, big, big NFL fan, 26 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:16,959 Speaker 1: Yes he is. He tweets a lot of times about 27 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:20,520 Speaker 1: his hometown Cleveland, Browns, talks about the Cowboys, and even 28 00:01:20,520 --> 00:01:23,479 Speaker 1: puts his predictions for NFL games on Instagram. We've seen 29 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: that he loves the NBA. He says, I love the NFL. Okay, 30 00:01:27,480 --> 00:01:29,800 Speaker 1: but I love the NBA. But he says, Christmas is 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,920 Speaker 1: our day. Christmas is our day. He's talking about the 32 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: NBA should be their day. They talk about Christmas Day. 33 00:01:37,160 --> 00:01:39,399 Speaker 1: The Lakers beat the Golden State Warriors. That was a 34 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: tremendous game back on Christmas Day, Austin Reeves. I believe 35 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,959 Speaker 1: it was played the hero last second game winner of 36 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:47,440 Speaker 1: a Golden State. It was a great battle between Lebron 37 00:01:47,600 --> 00:01:52,000 Speaker 1: and Steph Curry. Okay, we know that Christmas traditions basketball 38 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:55,040 Speaker 1: NBA goes way back. You want to know how far 39 00:01:55,080 --> 00:01:57,840 Speaker 1: back it goes? I'll tell you way back to nineteen 40 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: forty seven when the Baltimore Bullets, yes they were called 41 00:02:01,240 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: the Bullets back then. The Baltimore Bullets speat to Chicago 42 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:07,880 Speaker 1: Stags the same day. Back in nineteen forty seven, the 43 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: New York Knicks took care of the Providence Steamrollers, and 44 00:02:11,480 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: the Washington Capitals beat up on the Saint Louis Bombers. 45 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 1: All right about eighty years now since then. The only 46 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,440 Speaker 1: year that there was not NBA on Christmas was nineteen 47 00:02:23,639 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: ninety eight when there was a lockout and postponed the 48 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: started the ninety eight ninety nine season, and they didn't 49 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: play basketball until like February fifth, nineteen ninety nine, all right, 50 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: And then all of a sudden, the NFL started to 51 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: move in. They tried to move in, they did move in, okay, 52 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: and I think they had at least one game on 53 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,240 Speaker 1: the holiday season since twenty twenty. And it continued, all right. 54 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: And there was two games this past Christmas defending Kansas 55 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:51,040 Speaker 1: City the champions, the Chiefs against the Pittsburgh Steelers and 56 00:02:51,200 --> 00:02:54,440 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans against the Baltimore Ravens. And the halftime 57 00:02:54,520 --> 00:02:58,440 Speaker 1: was pretty big. Beyonce put on a concert, and basically 58 00:02:58,520 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 1: that concert was as good as any Super Bowl halftime show. 59 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: It really was. Okay, But for all the hype for 60 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: the Hoopa, even for Beyonce, the games were out of control. 61 00:03:10,000 --> 00:03:12,840 Speaker 1: The Chiefs and Ravens won and blowouts. The NBA action 62 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: was pretty pretty incredible. As a matter of fact, four 63 00:03:15,880 --> 00:03:18,200 Speaker 1: of the five NBA games were decided by six points 64 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:20,359 Speaker 1: or less and the other was a ten point game. 65 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 1: And the young stars put on big shows on Christmas Day, Victor, 66 00:03:24,240 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: when Beyona he scored forty plus points, it was a 67 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,839 Speaker 1: big deal. Okay, So let's find out who won. Who 68 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 1: won on Christmas Day? And the NBA announced the other 69 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: day that on Christmas Day, the NBA ratings were up 70 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:38,960 Speaker 1: eighty three percent from last year, a big jump, but honestly, 71 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: you gotta pull back the curtain, tear the onion peels over, 72 00:03:43,120 --> 00:03:45,920 Speaker 1: and really what happened? They say they were up eighty 73 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:51,000 Speaker 1: three percent, But the average viewership for the NBA was 74 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 1: five point two five million for the Christmas games. The 75 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: average viewership for the NFL twenty four point two million. 76 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: And that's amazing because they're on basically streaming services. Okay, 77 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:06,880 Speaker 1: they say the NBA, and they tried the hype they could. 78 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: The NBA delivered its most watched Christmas Day game in 79 00:04:09,600 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 1: five years, and they said the average five point two 80 00:04:11,800 --> 00:04:14,680 Speaker 1: five million ain't gonna cut it all right. They want 81 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:16,839 Speaker 1: to just say, look, put up the white flag and 82 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: say we concede. We cannot compete with the NFL. I'm 83 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: talking about the NFL. The men who played in the NFL, 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: my partner, my friend, they're one and only. Bucket Brooks. 85 00:04:26,279 --> 00:04:28,320 Speaker 1: You hope you had a great Christmas book? How you doing. 86 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: I didn't meet to steal the thunder over here, but 87 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,520 Speaker 1: I want them to get it off by chest because 88 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,679 Speaker 1: the NFL has basically pushed the NBA in the corner. 89 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, for so long, Christmas Day was all 90 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: about the NBA and that was kind of the launching 91 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: point for the NBA season, and the NFL fringed upon 92 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 2: their territory. Even though it was a Wednesday start, which 93 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: is odd obviously by the NFL calendar. But this is 94 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:55,560 Speaker 2: something that the NFL has started inching tours, trying to 95 00:04:55,600 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: take over major holidays. And even though the NBA's ratings 96 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 2: are up, like you said, eighty nine percent, which is amazing. 97 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,360 Speaker 2: I still think there was something about watching the games 98 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:10,120 Speaker 2: that we had on Christmas when it came to NFL viewership. 99 00:05:10,360 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 2: Some of those games weren't necessarily as exciting as we 100 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,160 Speaker 2: thought they would be when we kind of saw them 101 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:18,760 Speaker 2: on the calendar months ago. But I just think it's 102 00:05:18,800 --> 00:05:21,039 Speaker 2: another example of the NBA kind of doing whatever it 103 00:05:21,080 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: wants to. 104 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,120 Speaker 1: Do, right, and you know what, they can do what 105 00:05:24,160 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: they want to do, but I think they're going to 106 00:05:25,400 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: just take a side step and say, look, let's not 107 00:05:27,800 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 1: do it. And the funny thing is no one has 108 00:05:29,320 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 1: mentioned this. The NHL has never played on Christmas Day. 109 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:35,960 Speaker 1: I think they realized that there's no shot that we 110 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: have any spec of hope that's almost gonna watch us. Yeah, NHL, 111 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: it's a great sport, but it's not made for TV. 112 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: NFL's made for TV. That's basically what it's all about. 113 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:48,520 Speaker 1: NHL never had a game on Christmas Day. Think about 114 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:50,840 Speaker 1: that for a second. 115 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 2: Wow, that is amazing, and that's the winter sport. You 116 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 2: would think that they would have dominated at that holiday 117 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: in the past. 118 00:05:56,279 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 1: Right, But you know what doesn't do that. They have 119 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: their own little deal. They have the New Year's Day 120 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:03,840 Speaker 1: deal when they play outdoors. I think they'll be in 121 00:06:03,880 --> 00:06:06,080 Speaker 1: Ridgley feel this year. I mean, so they have their 122 00:06:06,080 --> 00:06:08,600 Speaker 1: own little platform and they know what they got to do, 123 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,920 Speaker 1: and they know where they belong. And maybe one day 124 00:06:10,960 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: the NBA is going to learn like, all right, we 125 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 1: had it good for a while, but you know what, 126 00:06:14,960 --> 00:06:16,919 Speaker 1: we need to do something else, and that end season 127 00:06:17,000 --> 00:06:19,200 Speaker 1: tournament in cutting it either because no one knows how 128 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: it works and no one cares about it. The only 129 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: thing that people care about what the NBA is the playoffs. 130 00:06:23,480 --> 00:06:25,599 Speaker 1: That's what they do. And I love the NBA, but 131 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: it doesn't mean anything until playoff time comes. But let's 132 00:06:28,160 --> 00:06:30,480 Speaker 1: talk about the football games that happen on Christmas Day 133 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:33,320 Speaker 1: and we'll move on. Because Kansas City right now, everybody 134 00:06:33,480 --> 00:06:35,719 Speaker 1: was talking about their offense, Travis Kelsey, but being by 135 00:06:35,760 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: a bang. They beat up on Pittsburgh pretty good, twenty 136 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,520 Speaker 1: nine to ten, and the offense looks like they're coming 137 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 1: to life again. Travis Kelcey not slowing down at all. Right, 138 00:06:44,640 --> 00:06:47,320 Speaker 1: He's making that playoff push. I think they know they 139 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:48,880 Speaker 1: know in the playoffs are right around the corner. It's 140 00:06:48,920 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 1: not to kind of kicking in the second gear looks 141 00:06:51,000 --> 00:06:52,159 Speaker 1: like the Chiefs have already done that. 142 00:06:53,640 --> 00:06:56,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think the Chiefs certainly have a winning formula 143 00:06:56,880 --> 00:06:59,719 Speaker 2: and they kind of understand who they are and despite 144 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:02,240 Speaker 2: all of the outrage that is kind of centered around 145 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:04,720 Speaker 2: the team for the entire season, they kind of understand 146 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:06,640 Speaker 2: how to ramp it up and get it going headed 147 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 2: into the playoffs. That's the greatness of Andy Reid. He 148 00:07:09,760 --> 00:07:13,000 Speaker 2: understands how to get his team ready. And you're seeing them. 149 00:07:12,840 --> 00:07:14,920 Speaker 3: Begin to play like the Chiefs. 150 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: So long we were kind of worried about their offense, 151 00:07:18,520 --> 00:07:20,800 Speaker 2: and because offense is so much different than the way 152 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 2: that it started five six years ago, when it's a 153 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 2: high line circus, it's now become more of a ball control, 154 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,720 Speaker 2: highly efficient offense. And with their defense and the special 155 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 2: teams playing to the level that they're playing, the complimentary 156 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:37,240 Speaker 2: football approach that ken Ciey is using is working and 157 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,800 Speaker 2: it makes them a far more dangerous team than many 158 00:07:39,840 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: of us speculator as they head into the tournament. 159 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: And it's funny I mentioned Travis Kelsey. He began the 160 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs soul time leader in touchdown catches. He broke a 161 00:07:47,120 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: tie with all the fame at Tony Gonzalez unbelievable. His 162 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,320 Speaker 1: seventy seventh regular season touchdown, and it was tremendous. It 163 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: really was fifty fourth from Patrick Mahomes. But I know 164 00:07:56,360 --> 00:07:59,040 Speaker 1: the loser in that game obviously the Steelers. But there's 165 00:07:59,040 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: some questions right now. They drop three straight. The Steelers 166 00:08:01,560 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 1: have Russell Wilson right now, what's happening? Had one of 167 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: his worst games of the year. And there was an excuse, 168 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: I mean, everybody has an excuse. They said, well, you know, 169 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: George Pickens wasn't playing. He played Christmas Day, and basically 170 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:14,560 Speaker 1: he went twenty three to thirty seven for two oh five, 171 00:08:14,720 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: about five yards per attempt, had an interception. He's slumping 172 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: right now. When so of the Pittsburgh steel is it's unbelievable. 173 00:08:21,480 --> 00:08:23,440 Speaker 1: I mean they're twenty six in the league on offensive 174 00:08:23,480 --> 00:08:24,160 Speaker 1: success rate. 175 00:08:25,960 --> 00:08:28,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, now you're gonna have some of this. 176 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:29,600 Speaker 2: And the Stillers are kind of in the middle of 177 00:08:29,600 --> 00:08:31,559 Speaker 2: a slide right They've lost three games in a row. 178 00:08:32,280 --> 00:08:36,160 Speaker 2: Russell Wilson was never supposed to carry the Steelers offense. 179 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,720 Speaker 2: He was supposed to be a guy that was a 180 00:08:37,760 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 2: manager who could take it over sometimes in the fourth quarter. 181 00:08:41,120 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 3: And we got a little ward because he had a 182 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:44,679 Speaker 3: series of games they kind of led you to believe 183 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,120 Speaker 3: that old Russell was back. 184 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:49,079 Speaker 2: I think what this does it gives Arthur Smith and 185 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,319 Speaker 2: Mike Tomlin a true sense of who Russell woods in 186 00:08:51,360 --> 00:08:53,720 Speaker 2: there is how it needs to be managed in the playoffs, 187 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 2: and how they need to play if they're going to 188 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:58,079 Speaker 2: be successful in the playoffs. Just because they've lost three 189 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 2: games in a row, I don't think it takes any of. 190 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 3: The shine off of the Steelers. They're still a very, 191 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 3: very dangerous team. But I think we all knew that 192 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 3: their path to victory. 193 00:09:07,760 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 2: Is narrow, and they have to make sure that they 194 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 2: stay on that little narrow road if they're gonna win 195 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 2: in the postseason. 196 00:09:12,679 --> 00:09:14,360 Speaker 1: You know, it's funny because I think the success of 197 00:09:14,400 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 1: the Pittsburgh Steels is the defensive side of the ball 198 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,560 Speaker 1: and not the offensive side. And Patrick Mahomes was not 199 00:09:19,640 --> 00:09:23,440 Speaker 1: sacked one time, and he wasn't even bothered by TJ. Watt, 200 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: I mean, and basically those guys were dominating all season long. 201 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:29,120 Speaker 1: They got to get that defense stronger if they want 202 00:09:29,160 --> 00:09:30,920 Speaker 1: to make some sort of a playoff run. I don't 203 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: know if they can right now. 204 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, now, I think they can get it, they can 205 00:09:37,720 --> 00:09:41,760 Speaker 2: get it stronger. It's just about deploying the chess pieces. 206 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,439 Speaker 2: And you talk about TJ. Watt and what they have 207 00:09:44,520 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 2: on defense. They've had a couple of injuries that have changed. 208 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:49,160 Speaker 2: Jeordy Porter Jr. Has been out early in the year. 209 00:09:49,200 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 2: He's playing like a shutdown corner. They have enough time 210 00:09:52,520 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 2: to kind of get the defense going. The main thing 211 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:56,360 Speaker 2: that they have to be able to do. Pittsburgh is 212 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 2: at his best when they're being able to be super aggressive. 213 00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 2: They're bringing pressure because the pressure creates chaos, which creates turnovers. 214 00:10:03,440 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 2: They need to create turnovers because it allows them to 215 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: kind of stand a shale. 216 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:09,719 Speaker 3: On offense, they don't have to do much. 217 00:10:09,760 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 2: They can just run it, run it, run it away 218 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,719 Speaker 2: for their scoring opportunities in either kick field goals or 219 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: punch it in when they get favorable position. 220 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,800 Speaker 3: But if the defense doesn't set up to the offense. 221 00:10:18,720 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 2: It makes it very, very hard for the Pittsburgh Steelers 222 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,720 Speaker 2: to generate points. And so we can talk about that 223 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,319 Speaker 2: narrow path where it's run game defense and some special 224 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 2: plays on occasion from Russell Wilson. But that is their formula, 225 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 2: that is their blueprint, and that's how they got the 226 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:34,000 Speaker 2: ten wins, they got to make sure they stick to 227 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:34,720 Speaker 2: the recipe. 228 00:10:35,040 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: Okay, moving along on Christmas Day was the Ravens rolling 229 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: over the Texans thirty one to two. I'll tell you 230 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 1: what though, I mean, I'm really surprised with the Texans offense. Really. Look, 231 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: they lost Tank Dell. We know that you mentioned that 232 00:10:45,760 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 1: last week. He had a brutal injury. It was disgusting 233 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 1: to see that on the TV. Was ugly. But you 234 00:10:50,160 --> 00:10:53,920 Speaker 1: know what, so much their offense CJ Stroud. He went 235 00:10:54,040 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: seventeen to thirty one that day on Christmas one to 236 00:10:56,080 --> 00:11:00,319 Speaker 1: eighty five, had an interception, he took five sacks, and 237 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: it just was not the Texans team that we thought 238 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,600 Speaker 1: it would be. But you know what, on the positive 239 00:11:05,640 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: side with the Ravens, you know they've talked about Lamar 240 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,600 Speaker 1: Jackson in the MVP hunt with Josh Allen. He had 241 00:11:11,640 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: two big games Lamar Jackson did against the Steelers and 242 00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,080 Speaker 1: against the Texans. In those two games, he went something 243 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: for like twenty five to thirty eight, five touchdowns, and 244 00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 1: it looks like right now that he's right back up 245 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: there talking about the MVP situation. 246 00:11:28,120 --> 00:11:32,040 Speaker 2: He should be up there and the thing is national 247 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,720 Speaker 2: TV has such an impact on how we feel about 248 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: the MVP race. When you look at Josh Allen, he 249 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 2: had back to back games on a national stage. They 250 00:11:40,760 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: really kind of propelled him to be in that spot. 251 00:11:43,280 --> 00:11:44,840 Speaker 2: I won't even say back to back games, but it 252 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:47,280 Speaker 2: was the Rams game followed by the Detroit game that 253 00:11:47,440 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: really put him up there. And other games that he's 254 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:54,720 Speaker 2: had an opportunity to play on a national platform, he's thrived. 255 00:11:55,000 --> 00:11:57,640 Speaker 2: But when you look at Lamar Jackson to the back 256 00:11:57,679 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 2: to back performances, but then when you look at the numbers, 257 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,080 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson is playing the best football of his career. 258 00:12:03,120 --> 00:12:05,760 Speaker 2: And when you talk about someone being the passing touchdowns 259 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,120 Speaker 2: leader on top of what he's at it on the ground, yeah, 260 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:12,440 Speaker 2: he certainly should be up there. And if you ask me, 261 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: I think, if not for the record, and I think 262 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:18,840 Speaker 2: it was really important for the Ravens to win the 263 00:12:18,880 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 2: AFC North if Lamar Jackson is going to be the 264 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:25,960 Speaker 2: MVP because before you could say yeah, but like they're 265 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:28,720 Speaker 2: the sixth seed and the numbers are great, but Josh 266 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:31,960 Speaker 2: Allen led his team to a division title. Now that 267 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: the team's success is comparable. When you dig into the numbers. 268 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: Lamar Jackson has a very very good case to be 269 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:40,079 Speaker 2: the backback MVP Award winner. 270 00:12:40,200 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: No doubt about that. And let's take a look here, 271 00:12:42,400 --> 00:12:44,680 Speaker 1: and I'm going to walk through if I can, the 272 00:12:44,720 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 1: playoff situation as we stand right now. To the Chiefs, obviously, 273 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:49,960 Speaker 1: they got their goal. They locked up the coveted number 274 00:12:50,000 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: one seed and the playoff by that comes with us. 275 00:12:52,360 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: So they got that. Did they defend the chance? And 276 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: they're to be home for the playoffs? I think that 277 00:12:56,280 --> 00:12:58,520 Speaker 1: we know. Okay, let's talk about the Texans. Even though 278 00:12:58,559 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 1: they got blown out on Christmas, They're still going to 279 00:13:01,160 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: be the AFC's number four team, okay, and their wild 280 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: caught opponent is becoming a little bit of a little 281 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:13,880 Speaker 1: clearer right now. They may be playing Houston. Houston would 282 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: be playing the Steelers, I think, according to what's happening 283 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,559 Speaker 1: right now with the Steelers. So it could be the 284 00:13:18,640 --> 00:13:20,880 Speaker 1: Texans and the Steelers will be meeting in the first 285 00:13:20,960 --> 00:13:22,840 Speaker 1: round of the players. But we'll see, you know, I 286 00:13:22,840 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 1: don't know, but the Steelers right now, a couple of 287 00:13:25,000 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: weeks ago, they were ten and three, now to ten 288 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: and six, so I don't know what's happening with the Steelers. 289 00:13:29,480 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 3: We'll see well ranted three really good teams. 290 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 2: They lost their way a little bit because Pickens didn't play, 291 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:39,280 Speaker 2: and then it's about them kind of coming back to 292 00:13:39,360 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 2: the mean. The other thing that we're seeing when it 293 00:13:41,320 --> 00:13:44,480 Speaker 2: comes to the Steelers, and the Steelers may prefer that 294 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 2: matchup against the Texans because the Texans are limping. 295 00:13:47,400 --> 00:13:48,400 Speaker 3: Into the tournament. C J. 296 00:13:48,480 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 2: Stroud isn't playing well, they don't have as many weapons 297 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 2: on a perimeter. Nico Collins is kind of the only 298 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 2: thing in the passing game. It might be a better 299 00:13:55,760 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 2: matchup for the Steelers to be able to advance beyond 300 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 2: the wildcard round. When you look at the Steelers in 301 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,480 Speaker 2: comparison to the Baltimore Ravens, this is the Ravens team 302 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:07,080 Speaker 2: that we've wanted to see. This is the dominant team 303 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 2: that we talked about being a title contender. It's about 304 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:13,400 Speaker 2: their consistency and the avoidance of the self inflicted mistakes. 305 00:14:13,679 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 3: When they play the right way. 306 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 2: It's really hard to beat the Baltimore Ravens, and we're 307 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 2: beginning to see them kind of stack together those positive 308 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 2: performances in succession, which makes you think that they may 309 00:14:23,680 --> 00:14:26,080 Speaker 2: have a legitimate chance to win it all. 310 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:27,920 Speaker 1: Okay, they got a good shot of winning. If they 311 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:30,560 Speaker 1: win Week eighteen, they're gonna win the AFC North and 312 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:35,800 Speaker 1: they're gonna host either the Steelers Charges or Broncos in 313 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 1: the wildcard round. We'll see the Broncos gotta win out 314 00:14:38,080 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: as well, so we'll see what happens. So it comes 315 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: down to the end there, and it's pretty good good. 316 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:43,960 Speaker 1: So I like the way the NFL scheduling has been 317 00:14:43,960 --> 00:14:47,080 Speaker 1: doing this in the least several years, because years back, 318 00:14:47,320 --> 00:14:49,400 Speaker 1: you know, they had these nothing games the last two 319 00:14:49,400 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 1: to three weeks and the players will be rested and 320 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: things like that. Now every game means something, and like 321 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:56,360 Speaker 1: coming down to the stretch, especially, I look at the 322 00:14:56,360 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 1: Cincinnati Bengals, they're playing the Steelers next week, and you 323 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: know it's winner go home again, as they did yesterday. 324 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: We'll get into that. So I think the schedule makers 325 00:15:03,480 --> 00:15:06,680 Speaker 1: have really done the fans a good service right now 326 00:15:06,720 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 1: as far as keeping everybody nail bodding towards the end. 327 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:12,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're one of those games at the end of 328 00:15:12,720 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 2: the year to have meaning, and part of the way 329 00:15:15,840 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 2: they were able to do that is by making sure 330 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,480 Speaker 2: that they put all the division rivalry games at the end. 331 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 2: When you play within your division, it gives you an 332 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:26,200 Speaker 2: opportunity to do some of that stuff, you know, to 333 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,520 Speaker 2: create this intrigue because the intensity of division games are 334 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,200 Speaker 2: different than when they're non divisional games, and because there's 335 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: so much riding on it, we're seeing a lot of 336 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 2: great football, which is exactly what you want to see. 337 00:15:37,960 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 2: And you have to be excited because somehow, some way, 338 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow and the Bengals have kind of crept back 339 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 2: into playoff contention. And if they get into the mix, 340 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 2: now the conversation about Joe Burrow being. 341 00:15:51,320 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 3: MVP has more weight. 342 00:15:53,760 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, we're going to get into that, I mean, and 343 00:15:55,520 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: that to me, and I'm not saying that because you know, 344 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm kind of a hometown got a little bit. Well, yeah, 345 00:16:03,320 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: I want them to win because I think it's great 346 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,840 Speaker 1: for the city. I don't want see anybody walking around 347 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: with a sour face. And you know, I just it 348 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:12,160 Speaker 1: was a great game, you know, regardless of like who 349 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:14,880 Speaker 1: would have won that game yesterday, it still was a 350 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:17,080 Speaker 1: great great a lot of drama, and I tell you 351 00:16:17,120 --> 00:16:19,600 Speaker 1: what I mean, I'm happy for that field goal kicker 352 00:16:19,640 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 1: that the Bengals won, because, believe me, he would have 353 00:16:21,840 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 1: had that harnting him for the rest of his life. Really, 354 00:16:24,520 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: I mean it was it was kde York. I mean, 355 00:16:27,400 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: come on, really, he's given a shot to come in 356 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 1: there to play replace Evan McPherson who's injured. He comes 357 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,120 Speaker 1: down there, tries to kick a thirty three yarder, hits 358 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:37,760 Speaker 1: the left post. Are you kidding? I was thinking, Oh 359 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: my goodness, the demons are out. It was amazing. Really 360 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 1: when you think about that, and they get the ball back, 361 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: We'll get it to that because I had a little 362 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: bit of a question of the time management with Zach Taylor. 363 00:16:47,520 --> 00:16:51,200 Speaker 1: I mean, I just I tell you what. He escaped 364 00:16:51,240 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: some heavy duty criticism by getting that win. There's no 365 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 1: doubt about that. 366 00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, he did. Because there are a lot of questions. 367 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 2: I'll get texts all over about the last the secrets 368 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:05,879 Speaker 2: in those things, and it's tough and sometimes you get locked. 369 00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:08,679 Speaker 2: But the great coaches have a way of compartmentalizing, or 370 00:17:08,800 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 2: they delegate to an assistant on the team whose job 371 00:17:12,160 --> 00:17:15,520 Speaker 2: is to focus solely on time, score situation, how to 372 00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 2: manage it at all. 373 00:17:16,600 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 1: No doubt about that. He's Bucky Brooks. We got so 374 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,120 Speaker 1: much to talk about today. I can't wait because it's 375 00:17:21,119 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: all about football. Walt to wall today right here on 376 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,520 Speaker 1: Fox Football sonn you get Bucky on Twitter, we'll call 377 00:17:26,560 --> 00:17:29,480 Speaker 1: it X today at Bucky Brooks at Andy Furman FSR. 378 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 1: Of course at the third hour, that's eight o'clock on 379 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:34,520 Speaker 1: the East coast at Swollen don that's Mike Harmon, and 380 00:17:34,560 --> 00:17:36,200 Speaker 1: you can get us on the phone. We'd love to 381 00:17:36,240 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 1: hear from you at eight seven, seven ninety nine on 382 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,920 Speaker 1: Fox eight seven seven nine ninety six sixty three sixty 383 00:17:41,000 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: ninety So we have asked Bucky Bottom Barrel Betting and 384 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,240 Speaker 1: our number two and the Swollen Dome himself. Mike Harmon 385 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,560 Speaker 1: will join us in the third hour today. But they 386 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:54,399 Speaker 1: just needed one that's coming up next. Don't listen hat 387 00:17:54,480 --> 00:17:58,840 Speaker 1: no Fox Sports Radio. All right, both teams needed this one. 388 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:01,440 Speaker 1: That's right around the corner. He's Bucky Brooks, I need him. 389 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: I'm Andy Ferman together with Fox Football Sunday and Fox 390 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,520 Speaker 1: Sports Radio and we're live from the tire rack dot 391 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 1: Com studios. And by the way, football fans be sure 392 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,879 Speaker 1: to tune at the Fox Sports Radio every Sunday morning 393 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: beginning at ten am Eastern, seven am Pacific. Why a 394 00:18:15,359 --> 00:18:18,160 Speaker 1: count Out to Kickoff presented by BET MGM, Brian Nojeff 395 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: Schwartz had professional bett Bill Krakenberger will have you covered 396 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:25,040 Speaker 1: three hours before kickoff every single Sunday morning. Now listen 397 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: to count Out the Kickoff presented by bet MGM right 398 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 1: here on Fox Sports Radio and of course the iHeartRadio Wive. Now, 399 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: let's get into this game yesterday, which is one of 400 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: the best games I've seen in a while. It was 401 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: the Bengals. That Bengals are back and they're alive in 402 00:18:36,880 --> 00:18:39,760 Speaker 1: the AFC playoff race, lit by Joe Burrow's four touchdowns, 403 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 1: one rushing touchdown, by the way, they beat up on 404 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:45,400 Speaker 1: the Denver Broncos thirty twenty four and overtime in Cincinnati. 405 00:18:45,720 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: In Denver, they missed a golden opportunity to clinch the 406 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,520 Speaker 1: first playoff berth since twenty fifteen. Now, let me run 407 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:54,520 Speaker 1: this value bucket, Brooks if I can. If the Bengals 408 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: make the playoffs, Joe Burrow and you mentioned this a 409 00:18:57,720 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: little early on, He's gonna have a big time case 410 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,480 Speaker 1: for the league MVP Award. He finished thirty nine for 411 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: forty nine yesterday four to twelve yards, three touchdowns, no interceptions, 412 00:19:07,240 --> 00:19:10,840 Speaker 1: pass areating of one twenty two point one. Okay, let's 413 00:19:10,880 --> 00:19:13,679 Speaker 1: put this now. In the fourth quarter and the overtime, 414 00:19:14,000 --> 00:19:16,280 Speaker 1: he just carried this Bengals team to the victory. He 415 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: went eighteen for twenty two hundred seventeen yards, two touchdowns, 416 00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 1: a rating of one forty five point two. He rushed 417 00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: for the go ahead touchdown late in the fourth quarter, 418 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: and he threw that winning touchdown and overtime to t Higgins. 419 00:19:28,200 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: It was burrows eighth consecutive game with two hundred and 420 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: fifty plus passing yards and three plus passing touchdowns, the 421 00:19:35,480 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: most for any player in nf foul history. How do 422 00:19:39,280 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: you like that? 423 00:19:41,359 --> 00:19:42,879 Speaker 3: Look? Has been really impressive? 424 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:42,960 Speaker 4: Man? 425 00:19:43,040 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 2: What's been most impressive in watching Joe Burrows? Everyone who 426 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 2: tracked him from his college as at LSU leading the 427 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 2: Tigers to a national title to what he's been able 428 00:19:52,800 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 2: to do in Cincinnati knows his competitive spirit, and his 429 00:19:56,400 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 2: competitive spirit is obviously contagious when you look at the 430 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,399 Speaker 2: way the are playing, despite what their record is, despite 431 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,560 Speaker 2: the circumstances they face. To me, as a testament to 432 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 2: the quarterback Joe Burrow more so than the coach. At 433 00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:11,600 Speaker 2: no point did Joe Burrow pack end this season. At 434 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 2: no point did Joe Burrow kind of put out there 435 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,399 Speaker 2: that his team doesn't have a chance. He put a 436 00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:20,360 Speaker 2: lot more on him and challenged his guys internally and 437 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:22,600 Speaker 2: by the way that he went about his business to 438 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 2: raise their level of play. 439 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:24,800 Speaker 3: And they've done it. 440 00:20:24,840 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 2: And when you think about the definition of most Valuable Player, 441 00:20:28,280 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: I think you certainly can point to Joe Burrow and 442 00:20:31,240 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 2: say that he embodies those characteristics in traits based on 443 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 2: what he's been able to do with the team. 444 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,560 Speaker 1: I ask you, Bucky Brooks, how surprised are you with 445 00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: the success of Joe Burrow in the National Football League? 446 00:20:41,240 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 1: A guy who couldn't play at Ohio State, how to 447 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:47,359 Speaker 1: transfer TOSU and now basically he's in the conversation for 448 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:49,560 Speaker 1: MVP in the National Football League. 449 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I think everybody. 450 00:20:51,680 --> 00:20:54,200 Speaker 2: Everyone's just say that they were surprised because the guy 451 00:20:54,240 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 2: that you saw at Ohio State, who you didn't see 452 00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:59,920 Speaker 2: goes to LSU. The first year he plays at LSU, 453 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,560 Speaker 2: the numbers weren't remarkable. The second year is an explosion. 454 00:21:03,840 --> 00:21:08,120 Speaker 2: The thing that you had to separate from his Heisman year. 455 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,800 Speaker 2: How much was him and how much was the cast 456 00:21:10,880 --> 00:21:13,760 Speaker 2: around him, because remember he probably justin Jefferson and Jamar Chase. 457 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 3: He had weapons, good lore. 458 00:21:15,240 --> 00:21:18,760 Speaker 2: All of those players, uh huh were dynamic, they were 459 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: NFL players, And so how much was that? You now 460 00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:25,399 Speaker 2: have realized how much it was him being the point 461 00:21:25,400 --> 00:21:28,760 Speaker 2: guard and his superpowers are the way that he directs 462 00:21:28,800 --> 00:21:31,120 Speaker 2: the offense because whenever the Bengals get in trouble, they 463 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:32,920 Speaker 2: go empty, they spread it out, and they put it 464 00:21:32,960 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: on Joe Burrow to make the decisions. Every quarterback isn't 465 00:21:36,600 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 2: capable of being that past first point guard like he 466 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,600 Speaker 2: is now. It also helps that he was a high 467 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,960 Speaker 2: level basketball player in high school and he plays the 468 00:21:46,000 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 2: game like that. You see the vision from him that 469 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:52,760 Speaker 2: you received from an elite NBA basketball player that is 470 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: kind of directing the floor. So yeah, it's a surprise, 471 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,360 Speaker 2: but the more you get to know him, it shouldn't 472 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 2: be surprising when you know his competitive. 473 00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: Makeup, well, you know, you're mentioning the fact that he 474 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: should be in the conversation for MVP f in fact 475 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 1: they get to the playoffs. I feel the same way, 476 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,560 Speaker 1: But there's another person who said that as well, and 477 00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: that's his coach, Zach Taylor. Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow 478 00:22:12,200 --> 00:22:12,919 Speaker 1: getting the MVP. 479 00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,680 Speaker 5: I don't know that anybody can stand on a field 480 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,320 Speaker 5: and watch Joe Burrow and say he's not the best 481 00:22:17,320 --> 00:22:19,280 Speaker 5: player in the world, you know. And then you can 482 00:22:19,320 --> 00:22:21,639 Speaker 5: transfer that argument to Jamaar Chase as well, you know, 483 00:22:21,680 --> 00:22:22,639 Speaker 5: and you can argue those. 484 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:23,040 Speaker 3: Two to death. 485 00:22:24,320 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 5: But the clearest thing I can say is I would 486 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:32,160 Speaker 5: not trade Joe Burrow for any player in the universe. 487 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,879 Speaker 5: And so to me, that's that's MVP to me. 488 00:22:37,800 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 3: All right. 489 00:22:38,200 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor, head coach of the Bengals, I think he's 490 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:41,280 Speaker 1: a great player, but I don't know if he's the 491 00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:44,080 Speaker 1: greatest player in the world. I mean, I know we 492 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,080 Speaker 1: kind of have the greatest player in the way. You 493 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,280 Speaker 1: know why he loves him. He's gonna save his hands 494 00:22:48,359 --> 00:22:52,120 Speaker 1: for his job. That's why he loves him. 495 00:22:52,320 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 3: I mean, look, I'll say this about that. 496 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: As a coach, you should go to bet, you should 497 00:22:58,760 --> 00:23:01,080 Speaker 2: go to bed for your player like that, because that's 498 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 2: what they want. 499 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:02,040 Speaker 3: You know. 500 00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 2: Joe Burrow is fantastic and he has certainly helped Zach 501 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:11,639 Speaker 2: Taylor become a better coach. Because he's been able to 502 00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,800 Speaker 2: erase some of the mistakes that Zach Taylor may have, 503 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 2: whether it's the play called, the game plan, or those things. 504 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 3: And that's what great players do. 505 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 2: There's not a great coach who hasn't been impacted by 506 00:23:21,400 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 2: great players. 507 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:23,080 Speaker 3: That's a part of the deal. 508 00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 2: And Joe Burrow has given Zach Taylor an opportunity to 509 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,160 Speaker 2: be great because Joe Burrow is great, and I can 510 00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 2: understand his love affair with Cincinnati's number nine. 511 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,280 Speaker 1: One last thing about Joe Burrow that we're gonna do 512 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,520 Speaker 1: Zach Tayler for a second. Okay. During this four game 513 00:23:36,560 --> 00:23:38,880 Speaker 1: winning streaker bake, get the Bengals back to eight and eight, 514 00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: Burrow's competed almost seventy six percent of his passes thirteen 515 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,919 Speaker 1: hundred four yards, twelve touchdowns, only three at deceptions, a 516 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: passer rating of one sixteen point three. And for the season, 517 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,080 Speaker 1: Burrow has completed sixty nine point eight percent of his 518 00:23:52,160 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: passes forty six hundred and forty one yards, forty two 519 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: touch forty two touchdowns, eight at deceptions at a one 520 00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: oh nine point eight rating. Amazing. Okay, now let's get 521 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:04,280 Speaker 1: into Zach Taylor, because he as good as Burrow was. 522 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: Zach Taylor's decision making a clock management almost blew the game. Okay, 523 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: he almost took away his team chance of winning and 524 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: extended a game that didn't need to be extended. Let's 525 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 1: maybe you can help me out with this, because why 526 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:19,879 Speaker 1: he did this and why it happened. Bengals had first 527 00:24:19,920 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 1: and goal at the Broncos six yard line in a 528 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:25,920 Speaker 1: game that was tied at seventeen. Denver had just one 529 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 1: timeout and a minute thirty nine left on the clock. 530 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:32,399 Speaker 1: Denver tried to let Cincinnati score, and the Bengals running 531 00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: back Chase Brown hurt his ankle sliding and trying not 532 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 1: to score. Instead of kneeling down and running down the clock. 533 00:24:40,320 --> 00:24:43,600 Speaker 1: After an injury to Chase Brown, the Bengals used the 534 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: tush push and Burrow scored a touchdown with a minute 535 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,439 Speaker 1: and a half left. Because it was second down, I 536 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,760 Speaker 1: understand the Bengals could have kneeled twice and burned up 537 00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,360 Speaker 1: the Denver final timeout. They could have kicked the goal. 538 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: I had field goal with just over thirty seconds to play, 539 00:24:58,080 --> 00:25:00,440 Speaker 1: forcing the Broncos then to go about four. He plused 540 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,159 Speaker 1: you odds with thirty seconds left and trying to get 541 00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: a long field goal to force overtime didn't happen. So 542 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,200 Speaker 1: I think it was kind of like a boo boo 543 00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:12,119 Speaker 1: move on Zach Taylor. Maybe he paticked, maybe he didn't know. 544 00:25:12,800 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 1: I don't understand what happened. Please tell me what happened there. 545 00:25:17,560 --> 00:25:20,800 Speaker 2: Well, I mean so many different factors could have influenced 546 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: Zach Saylor. One, you don't know what the officials told 547 00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:24,440 Speaker 2: him when it came to the clock run down, when 548 00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 2: they're going to start the clock and those things. Even 549 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,160 Speaker 2: though he's an NFL coach and head coach, you would 550 00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 2: expect him to know the ins and outs of that. 551 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:34,960 Speaker 2: The chaos of the moment might have overwhelmed him, and 552 00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 2: maybe he got some misinformation, either from the officials or 553 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,000 Speaker 2: from his own coaching staff. Regardless, it's on him to 554 00:25:41,000 --> 00:25:43,359 Speaker 2: be able to know and manage that situation and to 555 00:25:43,400 --> 00:25:47,080 Speaker 2: make sure that he doesn't give the Broncos another chance 556 00:25:47,680 --> 00:25:49,840 Speaker 2: to get back into the game. And so, whether it's 557 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 2: kneeling multiple times to run out all the clock and 558 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,000 Speaker 2: then kicking the game when the field goal, whether it's 559 00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 2: taking it down once, running around a little bit before 560 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:00,600 Speaker 2: you score, whatever it is they need to work through 561 00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 2: those scenarios and so worked through those scenarios, so they 562 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 2: executed right under pressure. 563 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:09,639 Speaker 3: He got a reprieve. He'll learned from the situation. 564 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:13,600 Speaker 2: But you're right, Look, it falls on him without being 565 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:16,120 Speaker 2: privy to what the communication was on the field. 566 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:17,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, it certainly falls on Zach Taylor. 567 00:26:17,560 --> 00:26:19,800 Speaker 2: For not executed the way that you would think a 568 00:26:19,880 --> 00:26:21,160 Speaker 2: veteran NFL coach would. 569 00:26:21,560 --> 00:26:23,200 Speaker 1: Well, I tell you why. He's not alone because I 570 00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: got a problem with Sean Payton as well, because when 571 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,920 Speaker 1: the Broncos scored the touchdown, there was fourteen seconds left, 572 00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: it was twenty four to twenty three. It was unbelievable. 573 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:34,440 Speaker 1: Bone Nitson scored that pass. It is an amazing play. 574 00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:38,679 Speaker 1: I couldn't believe it. It was just tremendous really, So 575 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: bone Knicks then looked like he went to the bench. 576 00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:43,480 Speaker 1: They was singingally for the Broncos to go for two 577 00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:45,879 Speaker 1: and win the game. In that twenty four to twenty 578 00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:49,160 Speaker 1: three game, the win would have clinched the playoff spot 579 00:26:49,160 --> 00:26:51,879 Speaker 1: for the Broncos if Denver went for the two and 580 00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:55,000 Speaker 1: they converted the too. However, Sean Payton pulled the offense 581 00:26:55,119 --> 00:26:58,440 Speaker 1: during the review of the Marvin Mims catch and then 582 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:01,520 Speaker 1: that review stood it was a good catch and they 583 00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: kicked an extra point to force the overtime. The decision 584 00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,280 Speaker 1: for bow Knicks was a good one, and Sean Payton 585 00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: should have listened to him, considering the Broncos clinched the 586 00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:13,480 Speaker 1: playoffs spot with a tie. If they tied the game, 587 00:27:13,560 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: they get to the playoffs and overtime it's ten minutes 588 00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: instead of fifteen. Decision was still interesting given the history 589 00:27:19,720 --> 00:27:21,800 Speaker 1: of Sean Payton. I had a question with that, and 590 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: bon Knicks really and truly did the right deal, but 591 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: they didn't go for two. 592 00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:28,760 Speaker 3: Okay. 593 00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 2: So here's the thing, and I think it's old school 594 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:37,280 Speaker 2: versus new school mindset. So new school guy bow Knicks 595 00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 2: wants to go for two because he's growing up in an 596 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 2: environment we're going for two is the norm. Old school 597 00:27:42,359 --> 00:27:44,679 Speaker 2: guy Sean Payton is used to the traditional way that 598 00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: you play these games out where look, man, you take 599 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,240 Speaker 2: the one, you go into overtime, you win in overtime. 600 00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 2: In those things, we can debate the merrits of whether 601 00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,200 Speaker 2: you go for two or not, because you still have to. 602 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:56,359 Speaker 3: Convert it and make the play. Man. I'm kind of 603 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:57,160 Speaker 3: split on this one. 604 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 2: I can see kind of both sides of the debate, 605 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:00,840 Speaker 2: like why you would go for two? 606 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 3: Ay, let's take our fate in our own hands. 607 00:28:03,080 --> 00:28:05,120 Speaker 2: If we believe in the quarterback, believe in the offense, 608 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:08,600 Speaker 2: let's decided that we should be the ones to determine 609 00:28:08,680 --> 00:28:11,400 Speaker 2: whether we win or not. But I also understand, like man, 610 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: I certainly would hate for everything to come down to 611 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,320 Speaker 2: this one play and for us not to get it right. 612 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,760 Speaker 1: And now I hear what you're saying. I mean, look, 613 00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:21,959 Speaker 1: being a coach, especially in the National Football League, you're 614 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 1: up to criticism. Whatever you do, good, bitter and different, 615 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,919 Speaker 1: win or lose, everybody's gonna second guess you. And like 616 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: in the heat of the moment, you know what, you know, 617 00:28:31,119 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: that's why these guys got the big bucks. It's easy 618 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:34,960 Speaker 1: to sit in the stands and have a beer and say, hey, 619 00:28:35,160 --> 00:28:37,440 Speaker 1: you should go for two. There's a lot of things 620 00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,320 Speaker 1: that go into it. And you're right, you don't know 621 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 1: what the official told him on the sidelines. You know. 622 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: The bottom line is just they still probably will make 623 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: the playoffs. I don't know. But as far as the 624 00:28:46,520 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Bengals concern, they got to go to Pittsburgh next week 625 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 1: for another game that's a must win game. They also 626 00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: need Denver to lose next week against the Chiefs, and 627 00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 1: I got to believe the Chiefs will probably rest Patrick 628 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 1: Mahomes and some other starters books they already have. They 629 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:03,959 Speaker 1: have seeds number one seed, so we'll see what happens. 630 00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:06,640 Speaker 1: So I don't know. I mean, what do you think 631 00:29:06,720 --> 00:29:08,600 Speaker 1: you think the Chiefs will rest those guys? 632 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,000 Speaker 2: Knowing Andy Reid because they have the number one seed, 633 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 2: I would expect them to play a little bit because 634 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 2: that's a long layoff, all right, because you're gonna have 635 00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:22,320 Speaker 2: the bye week two weeks you're trying to get you 636 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 2: don't want to have the rust, and let's be honest, 637 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:27,640 Speaker 2: their offense is just finding rhythm. I don't know, if 638 00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 2: you want to get too cute trying to play this out, 639 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,800 Speaker 2: maybe look for them to play a half. Treat it 640 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 2: more like a preseason game when it comes to Pat 641 00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,400 Speaker 2: Mahomes and Travis Kelcey. But the rest of the guys 642 00:29:38,400 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 2: are going to play. He normally manages the bye week 643 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:44,680 Speaker 2: and anything better than anybody else. 644 00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:46,240 Speaker 3: I think they'll play. 645 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 2: But if there's an injury or anybody that's dealing with anything, 646 00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:50,800 Speaker 2: they can sit out and so it a lot of 647 00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 2: it depends on Patrick mahomes Sells. But don't expect to 648 00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:56,560 Speaker 2: see the stars that have been ailing. Chris Jones and 649 00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:58,360 Speaker 2: those guys. Don't expect to see them play. 650 00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:00,360 Speaker 1: Right, I tell you what I go. I look at 651 00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,240 Speaker 1: that Denver game last night. I thought bow Knicks played 652 00:30:02,280 --> 00:30:04,640 Speaker 1: a fairly good game. It really did. And their defense 653 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,479 Speaker 1: entered the game last night day something like the fifty 654 00:30:07,480 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: one sacks, which is number one in the league. They 655 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:12,960 Speaker 1: sacked Borrow I think seven times last night. Zach Allen 656 00:30:13,080 --> 00:30:15,120 Speaker 1: was unbelievable. They couldn't block the guy like three and 657 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,760 Speaker 1: a half sacks. But still and all I don't understand 658 00:30:18,800 --> 00:30:23,280 Speaker 1: what happened. He's so he's so set on running the football. 659 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:28,040 Speaker 1: That's Sean Payne. He's like Jim Harbar too. I mean, 660 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,120 Speaker 1: you got to pass the ball. I think Knicks wants 661 00:30:30,160 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: to pass. He does, but they run the ball. Gee 662 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,960 Speaker 1: stop already. I mean, you weren't successful. They made the 663 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: Bengals defense look good last night. I couldn't believe the 664 00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:40,880 Speaker 1: Bengals really was stopping the running game. 665 00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,360 Speaker 2: Well, you gotta remember this, bow Knicks is a rookie. 666 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 2: Bow Knicks has been slowly has slowly been given more 667 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:54,800 Speaker 2: more leeway to do things, and Sean Payton has remember 668 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:57,360 Speaker 2: this team was not supposed to be a playoff team. 669 00:30:57,640 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 2: He's gotten him to this point by leaning on the 670 00:30:59,560 --> 00:31:03,000 Speaker 2: running game. Adopted a very conservative office approach where he 671 00:31:03,080 --> 00:31:06,120 Speaker 2: loves this defense to set up the offense for success. 672 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: And I understand him sticking with the thing. Just about 673 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 2: the outcries of like ley Man, let bo Nicks cook 674 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 2: a little bit against this defense that hasn't played well. 675 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 2: I understand why he wants to stay to the script 676 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 2: because this has been the recipe for success for the Broncos. 677 00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 2: Didn't work out against the Bengals, but it was an 678 00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 2: overtime game. Look, he knows in the postseason, if they 679 00:31:26,360 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 2: get in the postseason, he has to let it go 680 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: a little bit more. 681 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 3: But I understand why he adopted this approach. 682 00:31:31,480 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: Amazing it really is to talk about this Chargers game, 683 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: Charges rolling over the Patriots four to to seven, and 684 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:38,719 Speaker 1: talk about Jim Harbor. I mean, I don't think he's 685 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,400 Speaker 1: gonna ennok credit. He's got to be in the conversation 686 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:43,480 Speaker 1: for Coach of the Year. Charged with five and twelve 687 00:31:43,560 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: last year and they ranked twenty second points per possession. 688 00:31:46,320 --> 00:31:49,160 Speaker 1: It's amazing. Get this star. I did some research, which 689 00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: I don't usually do, but in five seasons in the 690 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 1: National Football League, Jim Harbarugh has four to ten win seasons, 691 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: four playoff trips. He's the eighth coach in NFL history 692 00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 1: to make the playoffs in his first season with two 693 00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 1: different teams. The forty nine ers in the Charges and 694 00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,320 Speaker 1: he's fifty four to twenty five and one in the 695 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,560 Speaker 1: National Football League. It's amazing. I mean, you can't tell 696 00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,520 Speaker 1: me that the Charges just happened to make the playoffs 697 00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,920 Speaker 1: this year. It's him. It's Jim Harbine. That kind of 698 00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,440 Speaker 1: meant that the playoffs one hundred percent. 699 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 2: Jim harbb deserves a lot of credit for their success. 700 00:32:22,360 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 2: And what I love about Harbor when it comes to 701 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 2: that is he gives all the credit to the players. 702 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 2: He says that the players deserve the credit, that they're 703 00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:33,880 Speaker 2: responsible for the turnaround. They're the ones that made it happen. 704 00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 2: Hats off to him for being able to do that. 705 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:39,240 Speaker 2: And one of the reasons why his players love playing 706 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,720 Speaker 2: for him is because he's that kind of coach. He 707 00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 2: gives his guys the flowers and look, man, I just 708 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 2: appreciate that. I appreciate watching him turn it around in 709 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:53,120 Speaker 2: multiple spots, whether it's Stanford, San Francisco, Michigan and now 710 00:32:53,240 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 2: the Chargers. 711 00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:56,680 Speaker 3: He has a recipe for success that works. It has 712 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 3: tried and true, is proven. 713 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 2: Some people missed out on having an opportunity to hire 714 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,760 Speaker 2: him when the Chargers hired him. The Bears and the 715 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,520 Speaker 2: Raiders missed out an opportunity to have a turnaround specialist 716 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,200 Speaker 2: and they didn't do it for whatever reasons. 717 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:11,320 Speaker 1: Amazing, it really is, you know what. I think they 718 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,440 Speaker 1: love him because he basically gets down on dirty with 719 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: the players. I'm watching Hard Knocks the other day and 720 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: he's in He's up like a six in the morning 721 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,760 Speaker 1: in the weight room, doing chin ups and doing weights. 722 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: So unbelievable, right, I mean, you know how many coaches 723 00:33:23,720 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: do that? 724 00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:26,640 Speaker 3: Not many. He is that guy. 725 00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 2: He does realist opportunity to kind of do the work 726 00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,520 Speaker 2: with them. They appreciate that, and I think they appreciate 727 00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:36,600 Speaker 2: his authenticity as a quirky type. 728 00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:36,920 Speaker 3: Right. 729 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 2: He might be a little quirky with his personality, but 730 00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,520 Speaker 2: I think it works for him because the people believe 731 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,680 Speaker 2: that that's who he really is. 732 00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 1: I'm a little concerned watching him on the song lines. 733 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:48,880 Speaker 1: He's walking with a little bit of a gimp. I 734 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:50,600 Speaker 1: think he may have hip problems, that he may be 735 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 1: getting hip surgery. But I'm not correct or you know 736 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: that the inside information on Jim Harbidy's walking with a 737 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: limp a little bit. 738 00:33:57,080 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 2: I don't have any inside information would concern me too, 739 00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 2: walking with the limp, that would that would be that 740 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:09,120 Speaker 2: would be concerning. Yeah, the dude goes hard, but you know, 741 00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:10,960 Speaker 2: he's sixty. He played a long time in the NFL, 742 00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:13,000 Speaker 2: So sometimes the bumps and bruises and the ailments that 743 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,680 Speaker 2: you see him dealing with, that's a part of the 744 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:18,160 Speaker 2: job description, you know, like he played so long in 745 00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:18,920 Speaker 2: the league and get some. 746 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 1: Of that, no doubt about that. Last, but not least, 747 00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 1: let's talk about coaches here. What about Gerard Mayo. They 748 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:26,160 Speaker 1: were embarrassed, I mean Patriots. I mean they look bad. 749 00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 1: They look like they basically threw in the towel. Will 750 00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:30,800 Speaker 1: he be back next year to coach the Patriots? 751 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:33,239 Speaker 3: He will be given an opportunity to get back. 752 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 2: I believe part of that is because the Crafts insisted 753 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 2: upon him being the coach. They had written that in 754 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:40,920 Speaker 2: his contract when he was still working as an assistant 755 00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:44,600 Speaker 2: up under Bill Belichick. Yeah, he'll be back, and this 756 00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 2: was going to be a bit of a rebuilding. You're 757 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 2: given the amount of players that they let out, the building, 758 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 2: the mass exodus of veteran leadership and those things. But 759 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,360 Speaker 2: he has to improve, They have to improve. All of 760 00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 2: it has to be much much better. 761 00:34:57,960 --> 00:34:58,359 Speaker 3: All right. 762 00:34:58,400 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: He's Bucket Brooks and Andy Firm and we we are 763 00:35:00,400 --> 00:35:03,720 Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday on Fox Sports Radio. No, it won't 764 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:07,760 Speaker 1: be a Banner day today. That and more, asked Bucky 765 00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: is next. 766 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:12,360 Speaker 4: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 767 00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:15,760 Speaker 4: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 768 00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 4: dot Com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 769 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,640 Speaker 4: listen live. All right, asked Bucky. 770 00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: Coming right up, it's about eleven minutes now before the 771 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:26,960 Speaker 1: top of the hour. I'm Andy Furman. He's Bucky Brooks, 772 00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:29,560 Speaker 1: and now it's time for ask Bucket. We're live from 773 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,359 Speaker 1: the TAIRAQ dot com studios. Let's get it done. All right, 774 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,240 Speaker 1: here we go. You know it won't be a Bannaday 775 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,880 Speaker 1: I said this coming into the segment. Won't be a 776 00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,279 Speaker 1: Bana day for the football Giants today when they host 777 00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:44,400 Speaker 1: the Indianapolis Colts. Why high exposure aerial advertising? They've canceled 778 00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:48,240 Speaker 1: orders for three banners carrying planes to fly over Medlive 779 00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 1: Stadium today. The first plane, mister Mara, the owner of 780 00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:57,360 Speaker 1: the Giants, was Miss Tomarra enough, please fix this stumpster fire. 781 00:35:57,680 --> 00:36:01,640 Speaker 1: That plane flew over Medline Life on December the eighth. 782 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: The Federal Aviation Administration regulations prohibit banned planes from flying 783 00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: when the cloud ceiling is lower than eight hundred feet. 784 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks, Is this fair to loyal and passionate fans 785 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: who want to pay for a ban at the fly 786 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,800 Speaker 1: over the stadium? 787 00:36:16,040 --> 00:36:18,080 Speaker 3: It is fair. It's fair. We don't need to see that. 788 00:36:18,200 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 2: Let's keep your positor. It's the holiday season. Let's keep 789 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,919 Speaker 2: your positive. No need for everyone to be negative. Let's 790 00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:23,640 Speaker 2: keep your positive. 791 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,160 Speaker 1: You're so good, you really are, you really are? All right, 792 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 1: Let's get into Patentar Doozy. Now patn Oar Doozy the 793 00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:32,560 Speaker 1: football coach University of Pittsburgh. He opted for a game 794 00:36:32,680 --> 00:36:36,080 Speaker 1: time field goal in the second of a six overtime 795 00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:39,680 Speaker 1: loss to Toledo in the game above Sports Bowl. The 796 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:42,360 Speaker 1: game was forty eight forty six. Toledo won that game. 797 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,520 Speaker 1: That field goal, get this was from the one yard 798 00:36:45,560 --> 00:36:49,319 Speaker 1: line instead of going for the win. Is hegutless? I 799 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: get this. The Panthers finished this season with six straight losses. 800 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 1: They started this season seven to zero. 801 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:57,040 Speaker 3: Wow. 802 00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 2: I wouldn't say he's got I think he was trying 803 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,960 Speaker 2: to take the concerted approach and believe in his team. 804 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:07,359 Speaker 2: I will also say this as someone who's been on. 805 00:37:07,320 --> 00:37:08,320 Speaker 3: Some losing streaks. 806 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:10,759 Speaker 2: When you lose like that as a coach, you talk 807 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:14,480 Speaker 2: about they lost what six straight games to close the season. Man, 808 00:37:14,520 --> 00:37:16,560 Speaker 2: there's so many things that are going through your head, 809 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 2: like just the losing impacts your decision making. And maybe 810 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:22,640 Speaker 2: he was a little more fearful than he would have 811 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,400 Speaker 2: been in the past because he had the string of 812 00:37:26,080 --> 00:37:28,640 Speaker 2: losses back to back to back to back to back. 813 00:37:28,719 --> 00:37:31,120 Speaker 2: The impact you gotta be a little more courageous though. 814 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:32,319 Speaker 3: There you go. 815 00:37:33,160 --> 00:37:35,760 Speaker 1: Let's talk about Miami, University of Miami and the Hurricanes 816 00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: basketball coach Jim Laarernega. He stepped down the other day. 817 00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: He quit. He cited the changing landscape of college athletics 818 00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 1: is a big reason now. When Miami went to the 819 00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 1: Final four in twenty twenty three, eight of his players 820 00:37:48,680 --> 00:37:51,200 Speaker 1: enter the transfer portal. The players said they loved it 821 00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 1: at Miami, but the opportunity to make money someplace ELF 822 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:57,239 Speaker 1: created a situation where they decided to transfer for the 823 00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:01,120 Speaker 1: nil money. I guess, okay, why not? But I assume 824 00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:05,880 Speaker 1: Jim Laernega did not mention leaving George Mason University for 825 00:38:05,960 --> 00:38:08,600 Speaker 1: more money at Miami when he led the Patriots on 826 00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:12,239 Speaker 1: a final four run in two thousand and six. Can 827 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:20,200 Speaker 1: we call coach Jim Lronega hypocrit called hypogride? 828 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 2: I do think it is difficult, though, to navigate the landscape. 829 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 2: It's hard, man, when you pour a lot into players 830 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 2: in those things, and then it does become such a 831 00:38:30,600 --> 00:38:34,600 Speaker 2: transactional ordeal no matter what, no matter what, coaches got paid. 832 00:38:34,640 --> 00:38:36,440 Speaker 2: A lot of coaches over who have the majority of 833 00:38:36,480 --> 00:38:39,920 Speaker 2: coaches got into coaching to impact young people. And so 834 00:38:40,040 --> 00:38:42,560 Speaker 2: when you feel like you're pouring in but it's not reciprocated, 835 00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 2: I can see why it feels a certain way. 836 00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:48,680 Speaker 1: Oh man, you're too kind. Really the players could get 837 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:50,839 Speaker 1: the money, but he can't. I mean, come on, really, 838 00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: will you move? No? 839 00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:53,120 Speaker 2: I mean no, no, no, it's not so much that. I 840 00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:55,279 Speaker 2: don't even think it's about the money. I just think 841 00:38:55,320 --> 00:39:00,000 Speaker 2: it's the the constant reshuffling. That's hard because remember everybody 842 00:39:00,440 --> 00:39:03,080 Speaker 2: started coaching, they didn't start coaching at the highest level. 843 00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:03,600 Speaker 3: You know. 844 00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:07,440 Speaker 2: Some of that was watching people grow, building the program 845 00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:08,760 Speaker 2: up from the bottom. 846 00:39:09,080 --> 00:39:10,160 Speaker 3: It's just a different hustle. 847 00:39:10,239 --> 00:39:13,360 Speaker 1: Now, all right, I got to ask you this, where 848 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,759 Speaker 1: was your coach, Bill Belichick, the new coach at the 849 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: tar Heels when North Carolina, it's unbelievable. How'd they lose 850 00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:23,720 Speaker 1: to Yukon in a bowl game yesterday? 851 00:39:23,960 --> 00:39:25,799 Speaker 2: Well, typically get the teen who wins the bowl game 852 00:39:25,880 --> 00:39:29,239 Speaker 2: is the more motivated team. Jim Mora junior had his 853 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 2: team to eight wins, the chance to go nine wins, 854 00:39:31,360 --> 00:39:33,600 Speaker 2: and they haven't done that much in the program's history. 855 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:34,120 Speaker 3: At Yukon. 856 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:36,800 Speaker 2: Carolina's a six and six team. Let's call the spade 857 00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:39,959 Speaker 2: a spade. Yukon was a better team. Bill Belichick didn't 858 00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:41,640 Speaker 2: go because I'm sure he didn't want to be a 859 00:39:41,680 --> 00:39:44,719 Speaker 2: distraction if he was there. He also wanted probably to 860 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,560 Speaker 2: evaluate the team from AFAR, and what he saw was 861 00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:49,759 Speaker 2: a team that didn't play very well on the main stage. 862 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,520 Speaker 2: So we'll see it's his team. Now it's his program 863 00:39:52,560 --> 00:39:53,560 Speaker 2: and see if he can fix it. 864 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,080 Speaker 1: I do have to apologize to the Huskies of Yukon 865 00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,680 Speaker 1: about a week ago. I was making fun of them 866 00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:01,880 Speaker 1: and you kind of slapped me around a little bit, 867 00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:04,359 Speaker 1: and you were right. They're not that bad. And they 868 00:40:04,440 --> 00:40:06,920 Speaker 1: just gave him a coaching extension Jim Mora junior, So 869 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,160 Speaker 1: they're not that bad. I don't look at Connecticut as 870 00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: kind of a school like that. But show me the money. 871 00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:15,320 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks does that and so much more. Where Fox 872 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,360 Speaker 1: Football Sunday right here. Next it's break the bank time 873 00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: and it's coming right up. Stick with us. This is 874 00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: Fox Football Sunday. Good morning everybody. He's Bucky Brooks. I'm 875 00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:28,680 Speaker 1: Andy Furman, and we are broadcasting live from the ty 876 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,480 Speaker 1: rock dot com studios. Ty rock dot Com will help 877 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,240 Speaker 1: you get there in unmatched selection fasts, free shipping, free 878 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:37,800 Speaker 1: road has a protection and over ten thousand recommended in 879 00:40:37,840 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 1: stollars ty rock dot com The way tire buying should 880 00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,480 Speaker 1: be here. He is the man who knows football more 881 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,319 Speaker 1: than you think. He played the game, he coached the game, 882 00:40:47,360 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: he scouts the game. He does it only. He writes 883 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:51,680 Speaker 1: about the game. His name is Bucky Brooks. Brook How 884 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:53,319 Speaker 1: you doing. And by the way, I didn't even ask 885 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,440 Speaker 1: how your Christmas was with you and yours. 886 00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,920 Speaker 2: Everything was great, man, can't complain love the holiday season, 887 00:40:59,000 --> 00:40:59,600 Speaker 2: had a great time. 888 00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 3: Great back on with you, Andy. 889 00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: Thank you very much. I love you. I love being 890 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:05,799 Speaker 1: with you. And that's great. You know a couple of 891 00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,120 Speaker 1: things I want to kind of clean up before we 892 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,400 Speaker 1: get into what you wrote about an NFL dot com 893 00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,080 Speaker 1: talk about this Los Angeles Rams team. They started the 894 00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,239 Speaker 1: season like one in four. They're ten and six right now. 895 00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: They've won five in a row. They've won what a 896 00:41:19,480 --> 00:41:23,040 Speaker 1: nine out of one and four that I know, and 897 00:41:23,080 --> 00:41:25,320 Speaker 1: they look they're looking at the clinch a playoffs spot 898 00:41:25,960 --> 00:41:30,120 Speaker 1: and honestly beating the Cards yesterday thirteen night. I gave 899 00:41:30,200 --> 00:41:33,200 Speaker 1: Arizona some credit because they were eliminated and they still 900 00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,680 Speaker 1: gave him a fight. There's no doubt about that. But 901 00:41:36,239 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 1: this team right now is going to be reckoning with 902 00:41:38,600 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 1: And look here's the deal. Seattle won Thursday night, So 903 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:44,960 Speaker 1: the Rams entered yesterday needing a win against the Cardinals. 904 00:41:44,960 --> 00:41:46,799 Speaker 1: They got that and three and a half or more 905 00:41:46,840 --> 00:41:49,240 Speaker 1: wins by any of these teams. The Vikings the Bills, 906 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,160 Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers, the Bengals and Browns, the clint 907 00:41:52,280 --> 00:41:55,839 Speaker 1: A strength of victory tiebreaker over Seattle, and of course 908 00:41:55,880 --> 00:41:59,040 Speaker 1: the NFC West title. The Bengals beat the Broncos yesterday 909 00:41:59,160 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: for one of those wins, and so they're on their 910 00:42:00,840 --> 00:42:05,480 Speaker 1: way at Matthew Stafford yesterday Basically got it done, you 911 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,120 Speaker 1: no doubt about that. So Sean McVay, you talk about 912 00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:12,360 Speaker 1: guys coach of the Year, and we talked about Harbaugh. 913 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:14,760 Speaker 1: His name's going to be in that conversation as well. 914 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:17,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, his name certainly needs to be in the conversation. 915 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:21,000 Speaker 2: And what I'll say about Sean McVay, Sean McVay has 916 00:42:21,040 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 2: evolved as a coach, probably as much as any coach 917 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:25,319 Speaker 2: that we've seen in. 918 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:26,360 Speaker 3: The National Football League. 919 00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,360 Speaker 2: Sean McVay took over the Rams and was like lauded 920 00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,279 Speaker 2: for being the offensive guru, all of the wizardry that 921 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,239 Speaker 2: he did with a unique offense where he took the 922 00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,120 Speaker 2: Shanahan system and added bills and whistles to it and 923 00:42:37,160 --> 00:42:41,399 Speaker 2: made it an unstoppable offense. They have since changed their 924 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 2: style and he's become less about the offense and more 925 00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:48,280 Speaker 2: about winning games in a complimentary style. They run the football, 926 00:42:48,360 --> 00:42:51,279 Speaker 2: They have a ball control passing game. The defense is young, 927 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,920 Speaker 2: but he does a really good job of protecting the 928 00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,719 Speaker 2: defense by really squatting and holding onto the ball and 929 00:42:56,800 --> 00:43:00,799 Speaker 2: limiting the amount of possessions the opponent has. Coaching, and 930 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 2: so for all the X and o's and the tactical 931 00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 2: stuff that we used to talk about with the schematic 932 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:08,960 Speaker 2: stuff that we used to talk about with Sean McVay man, 933 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:10,680 Speaker 2: I think you got to give him credit for being 934 00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:14,680 Speaker 2: one of the best I would say game managers in 935 00:43:14,760 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 2: terms of managing the game from the sideline to put 936 00:43:17,120 --> 00:43:20,239 Speaker 2: his team in a position to win games despite the 937 00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:22,120 Speaker 2: challenges that they may face on their roster. 938 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this. You played the game so 939 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:26,400 Speaker 1: you would know, and I'm sure you've had You've been 940 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,080 Speaker 1: on some teams that were affected by losses. And we 941 00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 1: talked about patn Ardouzay, the coach University of Pittsburgh. You know, 942 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:34,560 Speaker 1: they started seven to zero and they lost their last six. 943 00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:39,200 Speaker 1: The Rams basically were one and four. The Bengals were 944 00:43:39,320 --> 00:43:42,000 Speaker 1: very similar. Now they're eight and eight, you know, and 945 00:43:42,040 --> 00:43:44,520 Speaker 1: they talk about media talks about you know, the coach 946 00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:47,600 Speaker 1: lost the locker room players have given up. What is 947 00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 1: it like and how tough is it for a coach 948 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,239 Speaker 1: to kind of rally the troops when you are one 949 00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:54,239 Speaker 1: and four like Sean mcfay. How these guys at one 950 00:43:54,280 --> 00:43:56,680 Speaker 1: and four today give up on themselves that they say 951 00:43:56,800 --> 00:43:58,719 Speaker 1: we're going to quit, we have no chance. How does 952 00:43:58,760 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 1: that work inside? See the workings of a locker. 953 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,439 Speaker 3: Room, it's very difficult one. 954 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,440 Speaker 2: As part of the intake process, you hope that you 955 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,160 Speaker 2: take the right guys coming in, meaning that when you're 956 00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 2: bringing players onto your team, you hope they have enough 957 00:44:12,360 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 2: mental toughness to be. 958 00:44:13,640 --> 00:44:15,640 Speaker 3: Able to endure some tough times. 959 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 2: You dig into the background, you make sure they've had 960 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,640 Speaker 2: to overcome and do things that aren't a bunch of 961 00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:24,040 Speaker 2: silver spooners who've never had to really kind of roll 962 00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 2: their sleeves up and get dirty to earn whatever it 963 00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,880 Speaker 2: is that they've been given. The other thing that you 964 00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 2: want to do is a coach, you've got to be 965 00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 2: consistent your attitude, your personality can't change. You can't be 966 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,320 Speaker 2: high like, look, we're happy, go lucky when we're winning. 967 00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:39,840 Speaker 3: We're down in the dust when we're losing. 968 00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 2: You got to show up and be the same every day. 969 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:44,359 Speaker 2: You have to hold the players accountable for the things 970 00:44:44,360 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 2: that they haven't done. You have to hold yourself and 971 00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:49,080 Speaker 2: your coaches accountable for those shortcomings. But you have to 972 00:44:49,080 --> 00:44:52,600 Speaker 2: be consistent and whatever the plan is, you got to 973 00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:54,439 Speaker 2: continue to sell the plan every day. 974 00:44:54,600 --> 00:44:56,440 Speaker 3: Hey guys, we're getting close. We just need to do 975 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 3: these things that will turn it around. 976 00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 2: And if they believe in you, because as you've been 977 00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:04,760 Speaker 2: consistent and authentic in all those things, you can turn around. 978 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,680 Speaker 2: But it takes a lot of toughness from the coach 979 00:45:08,239 --> 00:45:10,200 Speaker 2: and you have to have a tough minded squad to 980 00:45:10,239 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 2: turn things around in the middle of the season. 981 00:45:12,320 --> 00:45:14,359 Speaker 1: Now, you said something early on and I caught this. 982 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,520 Speaker 1: I think it's very important that coach can say whatever 983 00:45:16,520 --> 00:45:18,960 Speaker 1: he wants and people could roll their eyes. You need 984 00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:21,840 Speaker 1: a leader, and you mentioned the fact that Joe Burrow 985 00:45:21,960 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: did not let this team die. You get a guy 986 00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,319 Speaker 1: like that on your team. Joe Burrow basically carried this 987 00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:29,840 Speaker 1: Bengals team on his back. Not only on the field. 988 00:45:29,880 --> 00:45:31,840 Speaker 1: I gotta believe off the field as well. You know, 989 00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:33,880 Speaker 1: he is the desire to win. He wants to win 990 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,400 Speaker 1: it. It hurts him so badly when they lose. You can 991 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,839 Speaker 1: see it on the sidelines, and I think you get 992 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: a player like that on your team that certainly helps 993 00:45:41,520 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: the coaches' words of somewhat wisdom. 994 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:48,360 Speaker 2: It does, and you know, like you would like the 995 00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:51,400 Speaker 2: other thing. When it comes to building the team navigating 996 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:55,279 Speaker 2: through a losing streak, your best players have to be 997 00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 2: your hardest workers, and in a perfect world, your best 998 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 2: players are also your lead. So they're talented, they're tough, 999 00:46:04,000 --> 00:46:06,880 Speaker 2: they said positive examples, because they come to work and 1000 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:09,399 Speaker 2: they don't flinch. You hope that you have a locker 1001 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:14,040 Speaker 2: room full of those guys. And it takes like a 1002 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:17,000 Speaker 2: team that's really connected because in these moments when you're 1003 00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,840 Speaker 2: losing a bunch of games. But what is tested is 1004 00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,759 Speaker 2: not necessarily like the x's and o's. The part that's 1005 00:46:22,800 --> 00:46:25,360 Speaker 2: tested is the connection that you have with your teammates 1006 00:46:25,400 --> 00:46:27,480 Speaker 2: and the connection that the coach has with its team. 1007 00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,160 Speaker 2: And if you're connected, then you continue to believe in 1008 00:46:30,200 --> 00:46:31,319 Speaker 2: one another, you continue to. 1009 00:46:31,320 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 3: Rally around one another. But if there are any fractures 1010 00:46:34,440 --> 00:46:37,280 Speaker 3: in that relationship, it can't work. 1011 00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 2: And so that's why people will tell you it's not 1012 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: the most talented team that typically wins. The coaches that 1013 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:44,799 Speaker 2: win championships will tell you, man, our team was the 1014 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:47,799 Speaker 2: most connected. They really believe they bought into what we 1015 00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:51,160 Speaker 2: were saying. They never blinked when things didn't go their way, 1016 00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,520 Speaker 2: and they were able to kind of find. 1017 00:46:53,200 --> 00:46:54,759 Speaker 3: A way to get to the end. 1018 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,000 Speaker 2: That's what it takes, and that's why it's really really 1019 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,800 Speaker 2: hard to turn things around in the middle of the season. 1020 00:46:59,239 --> 00:47:01,959 Speaker 1: You know, you wrote about this thing on NFL dot 1021 00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:05,240 Speaker 1: com about the free agencies and big money and backing 1022 00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,560 Speaker 1: up that brings truck. But before we get into that, 1023 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: I want to tak up at some talented players and 1024 00:47:10,200 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: talk about the bowl games. And they were like five 1025 00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,759 Speaker 1: games yesterday. None of them really caught my attention. I 1026 00:47:14,760 --> 00:47:17,040 Speaker 1: look at North Carolina because I followed them thanks to you, 1027 00:47:17,160 --> 00:47:19,440 Speaker 1: and you know, I can't believe they lose to Connecticut. 1028 00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,919 Speaker 1: But the other game that I really wanted to zero 1029 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:26,120 Speaker 1: in on was basically Colorado number one. I'm not too 1030 00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,000 Speaker 1: thrilled about two teams in the same conference playing in 1031 00:47:29,080 --> 00:47:31,440 Speaker 1: a bowl game. I just you know, they could have 1032 00:47:31,480 --> 00:47:33,839 Speaker 1: played in the regular season. I don't go for that. 1033 00:47:33,920 --> 00:47:36,879 Speaker 1: Well your take on that because Colorado played Brigham Young 1034 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:42,200 Speaker 1: yesterday in some bulg with the Valero Alamo Bowl yesterday 1035 00:47:42,280 --> 00:47:44,920 Speaker 1: last night. I tuned it in because I like Colorado, 1036 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: I like the On Sanders, and I wanted to see 1037 00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: how the Heisman Trophy win a Travis Hutter did. So 1038 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, to me your take on like two teams 1039 00:47:52,320 --> 00:47:54,520 Speaker 1: in the same conference playing in a bowl game. 1040 00:47:55,800 --> 00:47:58,399 Speaker 2: I thought it was interesting, And look, it's a good 1041 00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,600 Speaker 2: matchup considering you're ranting the heart of Big twelve country, right, 1042 00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,880 Speaker 2: and so you have two teams that are gonna draw fans. 1043 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 2: The proximity for both you get them there in terms 1044 00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 2: of the matchup was very, very compelling because both of 1045 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,320 Speaker 2: these teams were ranked at won a bunch of games, 1046 00:48:14,320 --> 00:48:16,760 Speaker 2: and they had a little bit of contrasting styles. 1047 00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:18,319 Speaker 3: I liked it. I enjoyed it. 1048 00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:22,040 Speaker 2: Anyone who has not been exposed to BYU football, they 1049 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,800 Speaker 2: got an opportunity to see man the job the Koloni 1050 00:48:24,840 --> 00:48:29,439 Speaker 2: Sataki does and building a physical football team. You think 1051 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:31,880 Speaker 2: about BYU and Lavelle that was in throwing it all 1052 00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:32,520 Speaker 2: over the yard. 1053 00:48:32,920 --> 00:48:34,840 Speaker 3: No, this BYU team. 1054 00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:37,120 Speaker 2: They hit you in the mouth and Deon Sanders in 1055 00:48:37,160 --> 00:48:39,560 Speaker 2: the Colorado Buffalo's felt. 1056 00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,960 Speaker 3: What it's like to deal with BYU. 1057 00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:43,280 Speaker 2: A lot of teams that are faced this BYU squad 1058 00:48:43,360 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 2: will tell you the same way. Man, they are one 1059 00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:46,560 Speaker 2: of the more physical teams that you will ever find. 1060 00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:49,040 Speaker 1: I tell I'm shocked. I mean it was something like 1061 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:51,120 Speaker 1: twenty to nothing. I think at halftime something like that. 1062 00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: They lose. Colorado loses thirty six to fourteam. But Travis Hunter, 1063 00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:56,839 Speaker 1: the Heisman winner, I played both ways. You caught four 1064 00:48:56,920 --> 00:48:59,200 Speaker 1: passes game one hundred and six yards and a touchdown. 1065 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,440 Speaker 1: That I mean, Colorado looked flat. They really did. I 1066 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,759 Speaker 1: don't know if because the end of the season, maybe 1067 00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:07,799 Speaker 1: they're not happy they're not in the play. I don't 1068 00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,400 Speaker 1: know what the deal was, but they were certainly outclassed 1069 00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:12,240 Speaker 1: by Brigham Young last night. I was shocked. 1070 00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:15,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were all classed. And sometimes they can be hard. Right. 1071 00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,640 Speaker 2: So when you're in the midst of the circuit, right 1072 00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:19,839 Speaker 2: you've got the Heisman Trophy circus or Travis is doing 1073 00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:24,640 Speaker 2: running all around the country dealing with Heisman stuff should do, 1074 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,359 Speaker 2: and those guys are doing it, can you keep your 1075 00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:30,280 Speaker 2: team locked in? But it's not only that their levels 1076 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:35,520 Speaker 2: to becoming a legitimate title contender, and what the Colorado 1077 00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:38,400 Speaker 2: Buffaloes have done, they went from being a poor team 1078 00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,759 Speaker 2: to a team that was competitive to a team that 1079 00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:44,320 Speaker 2: is good. The next step, going from good to great 1080 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,560 Speaker 2: might be the hardest step, because good will always put 1081 00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:51,960 Speaker 2: you around eight, maybe nine wins. Great teams get to ten, eleven, 1082 00:49:52,080 --> 00:49:56,000 Speaker 2: twelve wins. To do that, it not only takes the talent, 1083 00:49:56,040 --> 00:50:00,440 Speaker 2: but it takes the execution while managing the pressure pressure 1084 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:00,960 Speaker 2: of the moment. 1085 00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:03,919 Speaker 3: The Alamo Bowl may not have been perceived to be a. 1086 00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,520 Speaker 2: Big Bowl, but what it was was another opportunity for 1087 00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560 Speaker 2: the Buffalo to face a really good squad. And anytime 1088 00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 2: you face a really good squad with really good coaching, 1089 00:50:12,200 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 2: they can expose your flaws. And what BYU did? They 1090 00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:19,360 Speaker 2: exposed the flaws that Colorado had. It showed the weaknesses 1091 00:50:19,400 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: that they may still have upfront, and it showed that 1092 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,000 Speaker 2: they have to take their game up a notch when 1093 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:27,160 Speaker 2: it comes to the physicality and toughness to be able 1094 00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:29,000 Speaker 2: to compete with the heavyweights the teams that are in 1095 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:32,040 Speaker 2: the tournament. They can go to that level. Colorado's not 1096 00:50:32,080 --> 00:50:32,799 Speaker 2: quite at that level. 1097 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:35,319 Speaker 1: And I ask you this question because you know, I'm 1098 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,720 Speaker 1: a football guy. I like watching the games on TV. 1099 00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: I certainly went to the NFL over the college games yesterday, 1100 00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,000 Speaker 1: and the only one that interested me was the Colorado game. 1101 00:50:43,000 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm alone on that, I would 1102 00:50:44,600 --> 00:50:46,600 Speaker 1: think ratings wise. You know, they put that on the 1103 00:50:46,640 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: regular network on ABC, So maybe the people who run 1104 00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:52,520 Speaker 1: the networks realize that with Deon Sanders and Colorado and 1105 00:50:52,560 --> 00:50:55,560 Speaker 1: the Heisman Trophy winter, that may bring more eyeballs to 1106 00:50:55,600 --> 00:50:59,319 Speaker 1: the TV set. But as the college Bowls situation, their 1107 00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:02,400 Speaker 1: schedule is a college bowl season dead with the playoffs 1108 00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 1: right now. I mean, nothing really excited me is toy 1109 00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,360 Speaker 1: in the bowl lineup except the Colorado game. 1110 00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:11,680 Speaker 2: It is different because it was all fell on one day. 1111 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:13,960 Speaker 2: To me, it was still exciting. I had an opportunity 1112 00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,640 Speaker 2: to watch Army play Louisiana Tech in a bowl game. 1113 00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,040 Speaker 2: Got a chance toe NC State and East Carolina play. 1114 00:51:19,080 --> 00:51:21,440 Speaker 2: Anyone from North Carolina knows that's a bit of a 1115 00:51:21,480 --> 00:51:24,959 Speaker 2: bit of rivalry in state. It has some value. Sarah 1116 00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,000 Speaker 2: Cues finished. 1117 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,759 Speaker 3: Off a great run under Fran Brown knocking off Washington State. 1118 00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:29,640 Speaker 3: It has some value. 1119 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:32,480 Speaker 2: It's a little different because the portal can really impact 1120 00:51:32,880 --> 00:51:34,839 Speaker 2: the teams that show up and play. So the team 1121 00:51:34,880 --> 00:51:36,480 Speaker 2: that you're getting in the bowl game is much different 1122 00:51:36,480 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 2: than the one you saw in the regular season. 1123 00:51:38,200 --> 00:51:39,719 Speaker 3: There's still value in that. 1124 00:51:40,040 --> 00:51:41,960 Speaker 2: As much as we will focus on the playoffs and 1125 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,279 Speaker 2: the twelve teams that go there, you still want to 1126 00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:49,600 Speaker 2: reward and I'm not a participation trophy, participation banner metal guy, 1127 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,080 Speaker 2: but you want to reward some teams for having really 1128 00:51:53,080 --> 00:51:56,120 Speaker 2: good years Yukon, those guys that be legendary in the 1129 00:51:56,200 --> 00:51:59,200 Speaker 2: Yukon program for winning nine games, because it really hasn't 1130 00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: been done often in their program. Some of those teams 1131 00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:03,880 Speaker 2: I would stay playing the way that they play knocking 1132 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:04,520 Speaker 2: off of Miami. 1133 00:52:05,560 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 3: You like seeing those. 1134 00:52:06,440 --> 00:52:10,320 Speaker 2: Little victories because everybody can't compete at a national title level, 1135 00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 2: but you certainly want to reward them for playing well 1136 00:52:12,680 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 2: and exceeding expectations. 1137 00:52:14,920 --> 00:52:17,800 Speaker 1: I think the advantage of going to a bowl game 1138 00:52:18,239 --> 00:52:21,360 Speaker 1: for a coaching standpoint is the fact that you have 1139 00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:24,839 Speaker 1: additional weeks of practice, which makes it easier coming into 1140 00:52:24,880 --> 00:52:28,839 Speaker 1: the following season. However, with the portal situation, I don't 1141 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,719 Speaker 1: know if that's a plus or not anymore, because you 1142 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:34,439 Speaker 1: make it an entire new roster coming in and even 1143 00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,680 Speaker 1: though you're practicing with these guys, these guys may be 1144 00:52:36,760 --> 00:52:39,879 Speaker 1: gone so it used to be a pretty big advantage 1145 00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,560 Speaker 1: that you could practice almost an additional month, and that 1146 00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:44,480 Speaker 1: helps you getting into spring practice. 1147 00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:46,440 Speaker 3: It does, and the way that you. 1148 00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,440 Speaker 2: Kind of configure your calendar can make it where you 1149 00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:54,040 Speaker 2: basically are playing football year round. Okay, so if you 1150 00:52:54,080 --> 00:52:56,160 Speaker 2: have the bowl game that goes into the end of December, 1151 00:52:56,239 --> 00:52:59,319 Speaker 2: you give them maybe six weeks to work in the 1152 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:02,800 Speaker 2: off seasons, so that'll take you to the middle of February, 1153 00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:04,040 Speaker 2: early part of March. 1154 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:05,040 Speaker 3: You start spring ball. 1155 00:53:05,400 --> 00:53:07,880 Speaker 2: You have four to six weeks, depending on how you 1156 00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 2: stretch that out. So then you go from March to April, 1157 00:53:10,600 --> 00:53:13,200 Speaker 2: you give them off, they're done with school. In May, 1158 00:53:13,239 --> 00:53:16,000 Speaker 2: they come back for the summer program, offseason workouts, and 1159 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:18,480 Speaker 2: then you're right back at it in August. There is 1160 00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 2: a way for you to continue to consistently improve your 1161 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,600 Speaker 2: team if you kind of set the calendar the right way. 1162 00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:28,640 Speaker 2: The bowl game preparations are a big part of getting 1163 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 2: your team ready to play next season. 1164 00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,719 Speaker 1: Right, all right, let's talk about something that everybody loves 1165 00:53:34,719 --> 00:53:37,680 Speaker 1: to talk about. Money, Money, Show me the money, you 1166 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:40,760 Speaker 1: throw it about the money? This week, talk about players 1167 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:43,560 Speaker 1: breaking the back of the NFL. The free agency class, 1168 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:46,440 Speaker 1: and I ask you, this, is it easier to build 1169 00:53:46,480 --> 00:53:49,640 Speaker 1: a winner in the National Football League through free agency 1170 00:53:49,719 --> 00:53:52,919 Speaker 1: or through the draft? You know, there's arguments on both sides. 1171 00:53:53,239 --> 00:53:55,920 Speaker 1: To me, I want to prove a veteran that played 1172 00:53:55,960 --> 00:53:58,000 Speaker 1: the game. Okay, it's so it costs me money, but 1173 00:53:58,040 --> 00:54:01,960 Speaker 1: I know what I'm getting. Where a draft pick. Basically 1174 00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:03,799 Speaker 1: it's a crapshoot. You don't know what he's gonna do. 1175 00:54:04,440 --> 00:54:10,239 Speaker 2: M I think for sustainable success, it has to be 1176 00:54:10,280 --> 00:54:14,520 Speaker 2: a draft and developed program. It's gonna be cheaper, you're 1177 00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,799 Speaker 2: gonna have an opportunity to really build your culture the 1178 00:54:17,920 --> 00:54:19,600 Speaker 2: right way because you get them from the time they 1179 00:54:19,640 --> 00:54:21,440 Speaker 2: step into the league and you're able to kind of 1180 00:54:21,840 --> 00:54:24,920 Speaker 2: influence them the way that you want to within your culture. 1181 00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 3: Free agency is necessary to fill. 1182 00:54:27,880 --> 00:54:30,640 Speaker 2: In the gaps on your roster, so you draft and 1183 00:54:30,680 --> 00:54:33,240 Speaker 2: develop the core, you get free agents to fill. 1184 00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:35,680 Speaker 3: In the gaps, and then you continue to develop it 1185 00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,160 Speaker 3: that way. 1186 00:54:37,000 --> 00:54:40,040 Speaker 2: As you're doing that, though, you're identifying the players that 1187 00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:42,960 Speaker 2: you drafted and developed. You want to resign and keep 1188 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:46,120 Speaker 2: that nucleus together. It's hard to sustain it if you're 1189 00:54:46,160 --> 00:54:48,880 Speaker 2: always bringing in new players from the outside, because they 1190 00:54:48,920 --> 00:54:52,319 Speaker 2: don't necessarily buy into the culture, white or right. It 1191 00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:55,719 Speaker 2: is much easier if you bring them in from day 1192 00:54:55,760 --> 00:54:59,760 Speaker 2: one and teach them your belief system, your value system, 1193 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:02,680 Speaker 2: those things. That's it takes a lot of patients to 1194 00:55:02,680 --> 00:55:06,080 Speaker 2: do the draft and developed program, so ownership and everybody 1195 00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,480 Speaker 2: has to be on board. Everyone loves what Dan Campbell 1196 00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:12,480 Speaker 2: and the Lions have done, but remember the first year 1197 00:55:12,480 --> 00:55:14,680 Speaker 2: and a half, first two years, they took a lot 1198 00:55:14,680 --> 00:55:15,640 Speaker 2: of ills before they. 1199 00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 3: Turned it around. 1200 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 2: Most owners, most teams don't have the patients to endure 1201 00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:22,759 Speaker 2: a draft and developed program. 1202 00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,920 Speaker 1: Right, and you talk about some of the players that 1203 00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:27,520 Speaker 1: the baby making some big time money, and number one 1204 00:55:27,520 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 1: on your list was Sam Donald, the quarterback on the 1205 00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:32,680 Speaker 1: Minnesota Vikings is twenty seven years of age and look 1206 00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,319 Speaker 1: through fifteen games, you're right, seven year pro he's throwing 1207 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:38,760 Speaker 1: for over thirty seven hundred yrs, thirty two touchdowns, eleven 1208 00:55:38,760 --> 00:55:42,080 Speaker 1: its had a tremendous year, surprise a lot of people. 1209 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:45,040 Speaker 1: Here's the question, can the Vikings win without him? And 1210 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,799 Speaker 1: what happens to JJ McCarthy where they drafted as their 1211 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,759 Speaker 1: future quarterback, what happens to McCarthy, And obviously is it 1212 00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,239 Speaker 1: a system where they could just plug in anybody and 1213 00:55:54,280 --> 00:55:56,920 Speaker 1: then win, or they must have Donald behind center. 1214 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:02,319 Speaker 2: Man, I think when you win the way that they 1215 00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:04,319 Speaker 2: have started to win, I don't know if you want 1216 00:56:04,320 --> 00:56:06,839 Speaker 2: to move off of that too quickly. As much as 1217 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 2: we all get over draft picks and what they could be, 1218 00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,040 Speaker 2: there's something about the bird in hand, the proven commodity. 1219 00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:16,359 Speaker 2: Sam Donald's a proven commodity within that system. I don't 1220 00:56:16,360 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 2: know if I'm the vikings if I want to move 1221 00:56:17,800 --> 00:56:19,320 Speaker 2: quickly off of that. And yeah, we can bring in 1222 00:56:19,400 --> 00:56:22,120 Speaker 2: Daniel Jones who's on practice squad right now, and eventually 1223 00:56:22,200 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 2: maybe he could do the same thing. But you already 1224 00:56:24,640 --> 00:56:27,759 Speaker 2: know what Sam Donald can do. I think there's a 1225 00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 2: number that you want to exceed. But you explore bringing 1226 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,719 Speaker 2: Sam back if you can get him in a team 1227 00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:36,080 Speaker 2: friendly deal. If he wants to go into open market, 1228 00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:38,840 Speaker 2: which could be tough for him because remember, he's faulted 1229 00:56:38,880 --> 00:56:40,239 Speaker 2: at a bunch of different places. 1230 00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:41,960 Speaker 3: Personally, he knows. 1231 00:56:41,719 --> 00:56:43,640 Speaker 2: What it's like to not be set up for success. 1232 00:56:43,960 --> 00:56:45,439 Speaker 2: I don't know if he wants to venture in those 1233 00:56:45,480 --> 00:56:48,759 Speaker 2: waters again after the toll that they put on him 1234 00:56:48,760 --> 00:56:51,600 Speaker 2: mentally and physically to deal with all of the losing 1235 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 2: and him being excited as a bus right. 1236 00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,439 Speaker 1: I mean, I think that they got to say to themselves, look, 1237 00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:59,440 Speaker 1: we got something good here, we don't want to lose it. 1238 00:56:59,719 --> 00:57:00,359 Speaker 3: Do that. 1239 00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:04,400 Speaker 1: And speaking of something good, T Higgins yesterday really jacked 1240 00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 1: up the money value of himself yesterday because he had 1241 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:10,319 Speaker 1: three touchdowns and that big Bengal win. He's playing under 1242 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,000 Speaker 1: the franchise tag now. But the question I think for 1243 00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: T Higgins is not so much the money. I think 1244 00:57:15,719 --> 00:57:18,080 Speaker 1: the injury factor. He seems to be banged up a lot. 1245 00:57:18,360 --> 00:57:20,440 Speaker 1: It wasn't that way until this year. I don't know 1246 00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: what happened. Maybe just a lingering injury and maybe with 1247 00:57:23,240 --> 00:57:26,880 Speaker 1: a good rest and workout regime in the off season 1248 00:57:27,160 --> 00:57:28,240 Speaker 1: he comes back stronger. 1249 00:57:28,280 --> 00:57:32,000 Speaker 3: I don't know, maybe, but give him credit. You know 1250 00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:34,000 Speaker 3: you heard people talk about citing. 1251 00:57:33,680 --> 00:57:36,120 Speaker 2: His worry mentality and how he's battled through those things 1252 00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:36,720 Speaker 2: to come back. 1253 00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 3: He's a talented player. 1254 00:57:38,280 --> 00:57:41,320 Speaker 2: I'll say this, and I'm not a Bengals fan, you 1255 00:57:41,440 --> 00:57:43,920 Speaker 2: certainly are there in the city. I think the Bengals 1256 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,200 Speaker 2: would be crazy to let both of those wide receivers 1257 00:57:46,440 --> 00:57:49,720 Speaker 2: leave the building. I know it's cost prohibitive to have 1258 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,720 Speaker 2: two big money receivers, but then I look and I 1259 00:57:52,760 --> 00:57:56,720 Speaker 2: see the Philadelphia egos have been able to do it. 1260 00:57:56,880 --> 00:57:59,080 Speaker 2: You know, I think you have to rejigger some other stuff. 1261 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:01,440 Speaker 2: The one thing that we do know, as long as 1262 00:58:01,440 --> 00:58:04,240 Speaker 2: the Bengals have t Higgins and Jamar Chase, one side 1263 00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:04,760 Speaker 2: of the ball. 1264 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,280 Speaker 3: Is going to be great. The offense is great. 1265 00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:13,040 Speaker 2: And so I am less inclined to make two things 1266 00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:16,640 Speaker 2: to remove a strength to try and help a weakness. 1267 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:20,120 Speaker 2: So now I got weaker spots. I have a great offense. 1268 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,320 Speaker 2: We can figure out how to manage the defense. Because 1269 00:58:22,360 --> 00:58:24,600 Speaker 2: they could go into the postseason with the terrible defense 1270 00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,720 Speaker 2: because the offense so good they didn't figure out what 1271 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:28,280 Speaker 2: the money is. I would not let Te Higgins and 1272 00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,439 Speaker 2: Jamar Chase get out the building. 1273 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:31,600 Speaker 1: I'm with you right there. I tell you what though, 1274 00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:33,800 Speaker 1: I not only should they not do it for the 1275 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 1: sake of the team's success, I don't think they should 1276 00:58:36,320 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 1: do it for the public interest. I mean, I think 1277 00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,760 Speaker 1: the public will go crazy if they let one of 1278 00:58:41,800 --> 00:58:44,400 Speaker 1: those guys go, because this is a team. Basically, I 1279 00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: would think if I'm Kansas City, I don't want to 1280 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,040 Speaker 1: play the Bengals in the first round of the playoffs. 1281 00:58:49,240 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 1: You know, the Bengals is one of the few teams 1282 00:58:50,840 --> 00:58:53,720 Speaker 1: with Joe Burrow that has beaten Kansas City. I can 1283 00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,600 Speaker 1: stay with them, and they should have been in this year. 1284 00:58:56,040 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: So I think that this is a team that's somewhat 1285 00:58:58,560 --> 00:59:01,280 Speaker 1: dangerous should they get it the playoffs. 1286 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:03,880 Speaker 2: And then you start looking at the teams that could 1287 00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:05,680 Speaker 2: score off for them. So if they get off get 1288 00:59:05,720 --> 00:59:07,520 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, they'll be number seven. That could be 1289 00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:10,000 Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills having a place to Cincinnati Bengals. A 1290 00:59:10,080 --> 00:59:12,160 Speaker 2: couple of years ago, we saw the Cincinnati Bengals go 1291 00:59:12,280 --> 00:59:16,560 Speaker 2: on the road and knock off the Buffalo Bills in Buffalo. 1292 00:59:16,920 --> 00:59:18,920 Speaker 2: They're not the team that you want to face. And 1293 00:59:18,960 --> 00:59:20,720 Speaker 2: the one thing that we know about Joe Burrow when 1294 00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:22,720 Speaker 2: they get into the tournament and the record recess to 1295 00:59:22,840 --> 00:59:25,480 Speaker 2: zero and zero, they don't have a care in the world. 1296 00:59:25,600 --> 00:59:31,240 Speaker 2: And to me, a fearless, swaggy Joe Burrow is not 1297 00:59:31,320 --> 00:59:33,240 Speaker 2: the team that you want to face in the postseason. Yeah, 1298 00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:34,960 Speaker 2: you don't want them in if you're at the Buffalo 1299 00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:36,880 Speaker 2: Bills or any of those other teams that could get 1300 00:59:36,920 --> 00:59:38,320 Speaker 2: the number two seed, no. 1301 00:59:38,360 --> 00:59:39,959 Speaker 1: Doubt about that. We'll leave it there. So I got 1302 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:42,400 Speaker 1: some big money coming up there and hopefully t Higgins 1303 00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,680 Speaker 1: gets some of that money. He deserves it big, I mean, 1304 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:48,120 Speaker 1: strong hands, big guy, six ' four and he should 1305 00:59:48,120 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: be getting about thirty forty mili next year. If not 1306 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:52,720 Speaker 1: in Cincinnati, he'll get it somewhere else, no doubt about that. 1307 00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:55,200 Speaker 1: He's Bucky Brooks. Get him on ex at Bucket Brooks 1308 00:59:55,560 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: at Swollen Dome? Who's at Mike Harmon joins us in 1309 00:59:58,840 --> 01:00:01,080 Speaker 1: the third hour and from an FSR, I'll bet he 1310 01:00:01,120 --> 01:00:03,880 Speaker 1: had eighty seven to seven ninety nine on Fox. That 1311 01:00:03,960 --> 01:00:06,800 Speaker 1: translates to eighty seven to seven nine nine six sixty 1312 01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:09,080 Speaker 1: three sixty nine. We got bottom barrel betting in this hour, 1313 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,520 Speaker 1: we got the Swollen Dome. Mike Harmon himself joins us 1314 01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,680 Speaker 1: and our number three, so we'll stick with us. They're good, 1315 01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:18,200 Speaker 1: but that defense is really struggling. That's next. It's scoreboard 1316 01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,680 Speaker 1: watching time for this NFL team. We'll get to that 1317 01:00:20,720 --> 01:00:23,040 Speaker 1: in just about a minute. He is Bucky Brooks. I'm 1318 01:00:23,080 --> 01:00:26,240 Speaker 1: Andy Furman, and we are Fox Football Sunday at Fox 1319 01:00:26,240 --> 01:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Sports Ready. We also live from the tire rout dot 1320 01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:30,920 Speaker 1: Com studios and by the way, after the show today, 1321 01:00:31,280 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 1: our podcast will be going up Now, if you missed 1322 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:37,240 Speaker 1: any of today's show, and shame on you if you did, 1323 01:00:37,480 --> 01:00:39,520 Speaker 1: be sure to check out the podcast. Just search Fox 1324 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,000 Speaker 1: Sports Radio wherever you get your pods, and be sure 1325 01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,160 Speaker 1: to also follow it, rate and review the podcast. Again, 1326 01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 1: just search Fox Sports Ready wherever you get your podcast, 1327 01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:51,840 Speaker 1: and you'll see this show Fox Football Sunday posted right 1328 01:00:51,920 --> 01:00:54,120 Speaker 1: after we get off the air. Now, let's get into 1329 01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:56,600 Speaker 1: this NFL here. Let's get into some games, all right, 1330 01:00:56,920 --> 01:00:59,200 Speaker 1: some games, and some of the games I wouldn't even 1331 01:00:59,200 --> 01:01:01,760 Speaker 1: want to you couldn't pick me up in a limo 1332 01:01:01,840 --> 01:01:05,680 Speaker 1: to watch. But the Raiders Saints, all right, Raiders Saints 1333 01:01:05,680 --> 01:01:09,480 Speaker 1: today both have been eliminated from the playoffs. Raiders maybe 1334 01:01:09,520 --> 01:01:13,440 Speaker 1: could get a jump on things because Saints had that 1335 01:01:13,560 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 1: young quarterback playing with Derek carrs he's not going to play, 1336 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:19,800 Speaker 1: he's got that bad hand. And the Saints could be 1337 01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,760 Speaker 1: without Alvin Kamara as well, so could be a good 1338 01:01:22,760 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: win for the Raiders. Will be four and twelve if 1339 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:28,240 Speaker 1: they win, Saints go to five and eleven. It's next year. 1340 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:30,280 Speaker 1: It's next year for both these teams. Correct, I mean, 1341 01:01:30,320 --> 01:01:31,520 Speaker 1: no one, no one cares. 1342 01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:31,840 Speaker 3: You know. 1343 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,560 Speaker 1: It's funny though, I watched these games. And like in baseball, 1344 01:01:34,560 --> 01:01:36,920 Speaker 1: when a team is eliminated, they got like four thousand 1345 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,240 Speaker 1: people of the game. NFL, they'll still get forty fifty thousand. 1346 01:01:42,400 --> 01:01:43,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, the people still show up. 1347 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:45,440 Speaker 2: They'll still show up and watch because they love the 1348 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:47,160 Speaker 2: game and because there's so few games that you have 1349 01:01:47,200 --> 01:01:50,360 Speaker 2: to take it in. These teams don't have anything to 1350 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,160 Speaker 2: play for, but there's a lot to coach for. Antonio 1351 01:01:53,160 --> 01:01:54,960 Speaker 2: Peers is coaching for his job. He needs to string 1352 01:01:54,960 --> 01:01:57,320 Speaker 2: together some wins to show ownership that he's still as 1353 01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:01,320 Speaker 2: capable of raiding the ship in Vegas. For Darren Rizzy, 1354 01:02:01,440 --> 01:02:03,600 Speaker 2: he's trying like heck to make it hard on the 1355 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:07,560 Speaker 2: Saints to move on from him. So, because of those 1356 01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:10,520 Speaker 2: situations of circumstances, the hard coach is going to lead 1357 01:02:10,600 --> 01:02:13,800 Speaker 2: some competitive play. It may not be pretty, but you 1358 01:02:13,800 --> 01:02:15,480 Speaker 2: can see two teams play hard and then it comes 1359 01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,440 Speaker 2: down to mistakes and manage them. And I just worry 1360 01:02:17,480 --> 01:02:20,560 Speaker 2: with the same. Spencer Ratler, young quarterback who's been up 1361 01:02:20,600 --> 01:02:23,000 Speaker 2: and down, kind of plays into the Raiders' hands. 1362 01:02:23,360 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, no doubt about that. Okay, because the Titans against 1363 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,720 Speaker 1: you are Jaguars Jacks. At three and twelve, Titans three 1364 01:02:28,720 --> 01:02:31,200 Speaker 1: and twelve, both teams out of the playoffs this year. 1365 01:02:33,200 --> 01:02:35,040 Speaker 1: The Jags are the probably gonna run the football, the 1366 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:37,200 Speaker 1: take some pressure off the quarterback. The quarterbacks to be 1367 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,760 Speaker 1: Mac Jones today. Is that correct, Ma's gonna be quarterbacking, 1368 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:41,560 Speaker 1: So you got to run the football. 1369 01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 2: Mac Jones quarterbacking. Yeah, they gott run the football. They 1370 01:02:44,360 --> 01:02:45,680 Speaker 2: got try and run it. But this is a Tennessee 1371 01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:48,880 Speaker 2: Titans defense that is, I would say better than the 1372 01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:51,240 Speaker 2: stat line may appear. The thing that you have to 1373 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:53,880 Speaker 2: worry about when you're facing the Titans. You have Mason 1374 01:02:53,960 --> 01:02:57,120 Speaker 2: Rudolphin started quarterback. As opposed to Will Levis, He's not 1375 01:02:57,200 --> 01:02:59,040 Speaker 2: as likely to turn the ball over and so it 1376 01:02:59,040 --> 01:03:01,080 Speaker 2: puts a lot of pressure on the Jaguars. 1377 01:03:00,560 --> 01:03:01,320 Speaker 3: To score points. 1378 01:03:01,640 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 2: Despite what Mac Jones has been, former first rounder, guy 1379 01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:08,120 Speaker 2: who's been a Pro bowler, the offense hasn't scored a 1380 01:03:08,120 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 2: lot of points when he's been at the helm. The 1381 01:03:10,280 --> 01:03:13,080 Speaker 2: magic number in this game is twenty. The team didn't 1382 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:15,000 Speaker 2: get to twenty is going to win the game. 1383 01:03:15,040 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 3: Because this hard points are gonna be hard to come 1384 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 3: by for both of these teams. 1385 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:21,280 Speaker 1: You know, didn't the ownership of the Jags say that 1386 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:24,640 Speaker 1: this is his best team he's seen ever prior to 1387 01:03:24,680 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: the season. I mean, what exactly I noticed? What happened? 1388 01:03:29,600 --> 01:03:32,680 Speaker 1: You're close to the Jags. What happened? I mean, everybody's 1389 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:34,920 Speaker 1: going to be shaking their head that they're three and twelve. Right. 1390 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So here's what I'll tell you. 1391 01:03:39,520 --> 01:03:41,880 Speaker 2: Just like the conversation we had, like how the coaches 1392 01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:44,080 Speaker 2: turn around tough situations in. 1393 01:03:44,000 --> 01:03:44,560 Speaker 3: The middle of the year. 1394 01:03:44,600 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 2: We talked about Sean McVay and the Rams. We cited 1395 01:03:47,160 --> 01:03:49,680 Speaker 2: some other teams that have been able to turn around well. 1396 01:03:50,120 --> 01:03:52,880 Speaker 2: Going back to last season, the Jags lost five of 1397 01:03:52,920 --> 01:03:56,360 Speaker 2: the last six games, and that hangover was with the 1398 01:03:56,360 --> 01:03:58,960 Speaker 2: team heading into the regular season. First game of the year, 1399 01:03:59,000 --> 01:04:01,160 Speaker 2: You're up on Miami. You're about to go up and 1400 01:04:01,200 --> 01:04:05,600 Speaker 2: maybe blow the Dolphins out. Travis NTM fumbles a touchback, 1401 01:04:05,720 --> 01:04:10,080 Speaker 2: next play adr score Tyreek Hill. The mental toughness or 1402 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,800 Speaker 2: the fragile nature of the confidence of the team, and 1403 01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:17,240 Speaker 2: I'll even say maybe some of the lack of direction 1404 01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:20,120 Speaker 2: from in terms of the coaching staff, in terms of. 1405 01:04:20,080 --> 01:04:25,000 Speaker 3: Getting these guys on board. Showed up and repeated erarors 1406 01:04:25,240 --> 01:04:27,200 Speaker 3: in the clutch. And it takes a. 1407 01:04:27,120 --> 01:04:30,480 Speaker 2: Tough minded team to be able to overcome those things. 1408 01:04:30,880 --> 01:04:35,000 Speaker 2: Good guys play hard, but the resilience, the grittiness that 1409 01:04:35,080 --> 01:04:37,880 Speaker 2: you need to go to the next level hasn't been there, 1410 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 2: and as a result, this team is not being able 1411 01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:41,680 Speaker 2: to win close games. 1412 01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:43,440 Speaker 3: Andy, I think they have nine to one. 1413 01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:47,360 Speaker 2: Score losses, games that they've lost by fewer than eight points. 1414 01:04:47,560 --> 01:04:50,960 Speaker 2: That comes down to late game execution and your playmakers 1415 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:51,680 Speaker 2: making plays. 1416 01:04:51,720 --> 01:04:53,360 Speaker 3: There have been injuries, but there have been plays to 1417 01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 3: be made and they haven't done it. 1418 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,360 Speaker 2: And to me, some of that comes from a lack 1419 01:04:57,400 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 2: of resilience and toughness that was originally exposed last season 1420 01:05:01,600 --> 01:05:02,520 Speaker 2: heading into this year. 1421 01:05:03,200 --> 01:05:04,960 Speaker 1: Now you're close to this team and I'm going to 1422 01:05:05,040 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 1: run something by you, and you're gonna think that out 1423 01:05:07,360 --> 01:05:11,640 Speaker 1: of my mind. I would people love to talk, and 1424 01:05:11,720 --> 01:05:13,600 Speaker 1: I think that there's some stories out there that I 1425 01:05:13,600 --> 01:05:16,400 Speaker 1: think there are some reporters immediate people are afraid to 1426 01:05:16,480 --> 01:05:20,360 Speaker 1: follow up on. Urban Meyer was let go in Jacksonville, 1427 01:05:20,360 --> 01:05:23,680 Speaker 1: and certainly rightfully so. It was ugly. He stayed up 1428 01:05:23,680 --> 01:05:25,880 Speaker 1: there in Columbus in a bar after the game. You 1429 01:05:25,920 --> 01:05:28,000 Speaker 1: know what's going on there. But don't you think there 1430 01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:30,800 Speaker 1: are guys like urban Meyer who get canned from a 1431 01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:35,040 Speaker 1: situation and they see the team really floundering. After they go, 1432 01:05:35,400 --> 01:05:37,560 Speaker 1: they feel good about say, ha, I knew it. I 1433 01:05:37,560 --> 01:05:40,600 Speaker 1: couldn't win. I mean, isn't that the case? Don't you 1434 01:05:40,680 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: think they're a guy? I like last night, I'm watching 1435 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,640 Speaker 1: the Bengal game and the kid York missus a thirty 1436 01:05:45,640 --> 01:05:47,919 Speaker 1: three yard field goal. He hits the left post. All right, 1437 01:05:48,200 --> 01:05:51,280 Speaker 1: don't you think Eva McPherson on the sideline is kind 1438 01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:54,360 Speaker 1: of like internally saying, ah, I would have made that. 1439 01:05:54,440 --> 01:05:56,880 Speaker 1: I mean it looks sort of happy in a sense. 1440 01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,720 Speaker 1: Am I sick by thinking that? Tell me. 1441 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:02,720 Speaker 3: You might be a little sick. 1442 01:06:03,080 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 2: Look, you have to fight when you're on a team. 1443 01:06:05,600 --> 01:06:07,960 Speaker 2: You have to fight against those emotions, right, you have 1444 01:06:08,080 --> 01:06:11,160 Speaker 2: to really give yourself up to be a part of 1445 01:06:11,160 --> 01:06:11,480 Speaker 2: the team. 1446 01:06:11,520 --> 01:06:13,440 Speaker 6: That's the emotions. 1447 01:06:15,640 --> 01:06:19,439 Speaker 2: Emotions are certainly Yeah, the emotions are certainly there. And 1448 01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,400 Speaker 2: but you don't want to carry all the business. But yes, 1449 01:06:21,560 --> 01:06:24,800 Speaker 2: there are people that enjoy other people's misery. That's why 1450 01:06:24,800 --> 01:06:27,320 Speaker 2: we have the outrage that we see on X and 1451 01:06:27,320 --> 01:06:30,640 Speaker 2: and all those things. Yeah, some of them, Yeah you're 1452 01:06:30,680 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 2: okay with like someone that has jilted you having some uh, 1453 01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:39,200 Speaker 2: lacking success and not being able to win. 1454 01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:40,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, some heartache. You're okay with that? 1455 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: All right? 1456 01:06:41,840 --> 01:06:42,600 Speaker 3: So we do it. 1457 01:06:42,640 --> 01:06:45,120 Speaker 1: The urban Meyer's happy now here. You got rid of me. 1458 01:06:45,520 --> 01:06:47,520 Speaker 1: I couldn't win, but no one else could win there 1459 01:06:47,560 --> 01:06:51,720 Speaker 1: either in Jacksonville. And that's his attitude. Maybe I'm wrong, 1460 01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:52,520 Speaker 1: Maybe it's a kid. 1461 01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,800 Speaker 2: Yeah he did. Yeah, so I'm sure. I'm sure he is, 1462 01:06:58,960 --> 01:07:01,200 Speaker 2: uh probably reveling in it a little. 1463 01:07:00,960 --> 01:07:04,160 Speaker 1: Bit, big god like you. Okay, cowboys at the Eagles 1464 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:06,560 Speaker 1: take this is a decent one. Okay, Dallas isn't gonna 1465 01:07:06,560 --> 01:07:08,600 Speaker 1: make the players double see. Is macarthy going to be back? 1466 01:07:08,600 --> 01:07:09,880 Speaker 1: What do you think? I think he's back. 1467 01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think he's back just because of what we 1468 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:13,400 Speaker 3: talked about. 1469 01:07:13,440 --> 01:07:15,480 Speaker 2: This team was left for dead, they were out of it, 1470 01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:17,439 Speaker 2: but he continued to get the team to play hard. 1471 01:07:17,800 --> 01:07:20,880 Speaker 2: That is a testament to his coaching and man coaching 1472 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:23,560 Speaker 2: is not really revealed when things are going well, let's win. 1473 01:07:24,040 --> 01:07:26,400 Speaker 2: Tough times. How do you handle the tough times? How 1474 01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:28,320 Speaker 2: do you navigate those moments? How do you get your 1475 01:07:28,320 --> 01:07:30,840 Speaker 2: team up and playing with injuries? In those things? Mike 1476 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:32,960 Speaker 2: McCarthy's done a really good job. Lost his quarterback, but 1477 01:07:32,960 --> 01:07:35,560 Speaker 2: they kept plugging along. They won't make the playoffs, but 1478 01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,520 Speaker 2: the fight that we've seen from the Cowboys. Never really 1479 01:07:38,760 --> 01:07:41,440 Speaker 2: fancied the Cowboys as a blue college squad, but Mike 1480 01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,400 Speaker 2: McCarthy's done a really good job of getting them to 1481 01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:43,960 Speaker 2: embrace that. 1482 01:07:44,480 --> 01:07:47,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, we go out of the Eagles, they're gonna win 1483 01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:50,320 Speaker 1: or a commander's loss, that happens, they lock up the 1484 01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:52,840 Speaker 1: NFC East title and to get at least a number 1485 01:07:52,880 --> 01:07:56,880 Speaker 1: two seed. As far as the quarterback situation for Eagles today, 1486 01:07:57,320 --> 01:07:59,720 Speaker 1: Jalen hurts he's in a concussion protocol. Is he going 1487 01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:03,400 Speaker 1: to play or is Kenny Pikett gonna play today? What happens? 1488 01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:03,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. 1489 01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 2: Kenny Pigtt is gonna play, Like all the reports, all 1490 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:08,680 Speaker 2: the reports are saying or leaning towards Kenny Pickett being 1491 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,560 Speaker 2: the starting quarterback. That's a that's a big deal for 1492 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:15,200 Speaker 2: the Philadelphia Eagles. Many they're scuffling and there you know 1493 01:08:15,480 --> 01:08:19,280 Speaker 2: this team is already already like very temperamental, right like 1494 01:08:19,320 --> 01:08:22,560 Speaker 2: they up and down and emotional and those things. You 1495 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,920 Speaker 2: don't know how a losing streak could impact them. They 1496 01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,959 Speaker 2: put a stinker up today with Kenny Beak head quarterback, 1497 01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 2: you just you know, you just don't like to see 1498 01:08:30,200 --> 01:08:33,639 Speaker 2: this team. You feel like they can unravel at any moment, 1499 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,200 Speaker 2: So they need to put one together today. 1500 01:08:36,240 --> 01:08:36,559 Speaker 3: They can't. 1501 01:08:36,600 --> 01:08:38,120 Speaker 2: They can't lose two in a row. Man, You would 1502 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,800 Speaker 2: hate to go into the tournament without any momentum. 1503 01:08:40,960 --> 01:08:42,479 Speaker 1: Right, They're twelve and three, and I think that Sai 1504 01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,320 Speaker 1: Kwon Buckleys is have a big game today but goes 1505 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:46,840 Speaker 1: to the Dallas run defensive lock thereof So I think 1506 01:08:46,840 --> 01:08:49,320 Speaker 1: it's gonna be all Saquon Buckley, especially Kenny pick An, 1507 01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:51,360 Speaker 1: understand there. All he's gonna do is shove the ball 1508 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:55,439 Speaker 1: in sak One's belly. 1509 01:08:55,560 --> 01:09:00,240 Speaker 2: Thirty kind the recipe, that's the recipe for success. 1510 01:09:00,320 --> 01:09:03,400 Speaker 1: Right, you're the offensive courter for the Eagles. I mean 1511 01:09:03,720 --> 01:09:04,760 Speaker 1: you don't have to stay up to one in the 1512 01:09:04,800 --> 01:09:06,760 Speaker 1: morning and sleep in the office. You know what's going on. 1513 01:09:07,000 --> 01:09:09,240 Speaker 1: You're my guy, say Kwan. You know I got a 1514 01:09:09,280 --> 01:09:11,760 Speaker 1: bodyguard with you all week long, so nothing happens to you. 1515 01:09:11,840 --> 01:09:14,080 Speaker 1: I don't want you slipping or sliding. I have someone 1516 01:09:14,120 --> 01:09:16,200 Speaker 1: walking into the shower. I don't want you slipping on 1517 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,559 Speaker 1: a shower or a piece of soap. I mean, you're 1518 01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:21,360 Speaker 1: my guy. I need you and stay healthy. And once 1519 01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,080 Speaker 1: you're healthy, we're in good shape. That's it. 1520 01:09:25,160 --> 01:09:27,040 Speaker 3: I mean, it is it. It's going to continue to 1521 01:09:27,080 --> 01:09:28,559 Speaker 3: be it like that's just kind of a part of. 1522 01:09:28,560 --> 01:09:32,800 Speaker 1: The deal, right all right, Now, here's here's the storyline. 1523 01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:35,719 Speaker 1: The storyline for this game's crazy. You got the Jets 1524 01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:37,320 Speaker 1: and they're out of it. Okay, they're four and eleven 1525 01:09:37,320 --> 01:09:39,439 Speaker 1: at the Buffalo Bill's twelve and three. You know, once 1526 01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:41,240 Speaker 1: upon a time this was a pretty good series, but 1527 01:09:41,280 --> 01:09:44,400 Speaker 1: not now. You talk about former Jets coach, some guys 1528 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:47,680 Speaker 1: that really get revel in this kind of stuff. Eric Mangini, 1529 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:51,519 Speaker 1: he's been really out there right now talking about the 1530 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 1: quarterback situation Aaron Rodgers on the Jets right now, and 1531 01:09:55,640 --> 01:09:58,360 Speaker 1: he says that Rogers has been doing everything he can 1532 01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,839 Speaker 1: to get cut by the ownership of the Jets, Woodie Johnson. 1533 01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:05,479 Speaker 1: It's unbelievable, maybe, he says, maybe by the owner's teenage son. 1534 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,640 Speaker 1: Despite maybe maybe he even says he wants to go 1535 01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:11,720 Speaker 1: back to Green Bay next year. What's the deal with 1536 01:10:11,800 --> 01:10:14,599 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers? I mean, honestly, I think this guy's out 1537 01:10:14,640 --> 01:10:15,840 Speaker 1: of his mind. I really do. 1538 01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:20,519 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm with you. I think he's a little kooky 1539 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:26,360 Speaker 3: and remains a little different. He strikes me as guy. 1540 01:10:26,760 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 3: He strikes me as a guy is never really happy 1541 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,720 Speaker 3: or satisfied. And this certainly hasn't turned out the way 1542 01:10:31,720 --> 01:10:33,680 Speaker 3: that he wanted it to. I'm sure he thought that 1543 01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:36,320 Speaker 3: he would go to New York and pull off of 1544 01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:40,320 Speaker 3: Tom Brady like a storybook ending, and it hasn't happened. 1545 01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:43,280 Speaker 2: And some of the things that have been exposed about 1546 01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:45,680 Speaker 2: him leadership and how he gets along with in the 1547 01:10:45,720 --> 01:10:48,879 Speaker 2: locker room and those things certainly will impact his legacy. 1548 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:51,920 Speaker 2: And I think the Jets have The Jets have to 1549 01:10:51,920 --> 01:10:54,479 Speaker 2: move on because the Jets have to They have to 1550 01:10:54,560 --> 01:10:57,240 Speaker 2: establish their own culture independent from Aaron Rodgers. 1551 01:10:57,320 --> 01:11:00,360 Speaker 3: It can't be Aaron Rodgers' team and locker room and 1552 01:11:00,360 --> 01:11:01,200 Speaker 3: all that other stuff. 1553 01:11:01,320 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 2: Whoever the new general manager and head coach, they have 1554 01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:05,400 Speaker 2: to establish how they're going to go about it, how 1555 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:07,599 Speaker 2: they're gonna play, and they got to stick to it. 1556 01:11:07,640 --> 01:11:09,080 Speaker 2: And I think the way that you do it, the 1557 01:11:09,120 --> 01:11:11,680 Speaker 2: easiest way is to get Aaron Rodgers about it. 1558 01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:14,920 Speaker 1: Here, you get him out. I'll say this much. If 1559 01:11:14,960 --> 01:11:18,120 Speaker 1: you look at his stats, they're somewhat impressive. He's thrown 1560 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:20,680 Speaker 1: for thirty five hundred plus yards, twenty four touchdowns, eight 1561 01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:23,719 Speaker 1: picks this year, his passer rings like ninety point eight, 1562 01:11:24,160 --> 01:11:27,280 Speaker 1: and they still have a losing year. The four and eleven. Defensively, 1563 01:11:27,320 --> 01:11:29,280 Speaker 1: I don't think they lived up to what people thought 1564 01:11:29,280 --> 01:11:32,240 Speaker 1: they would be defensively. And he was with Eric Mangini 1565 01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:35,839 Speaker 1: was with Colin Coward earlier this week, and Eric Mangini 1566 01:11:35,920 --> 01:11:38,360 Speaker 1: says that Aaron Rodgers is doing everything in his power 1567 01:11:38,640 --> 01:11:42,400 Speaker 1: to get cut from the Jets. It amazes me. And look, 1568 01:11:42,640 --> 01:11:45,679 Speaker 1: you talk about Aaron Rodgers. He got everything he wanted. 1569 01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:48,040 Speaker 1: He got the coach fired. And I think anytime you 1570 01:11:48,080 --> 01:11:50,200 Speaker 1: fire a coach in mid season, you might as well 1571 01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,360 Speaker 1: say the season's over. So I mean, if you're going 1572 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:55,200 Speaker 1: to fire the coach, fire him in July, don't fire 1573 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:57,559 Speaker 1: him after five games. So he got the coach fired, 1574 01:11:57,680 --> 01:11:59,800 Speaker 1: he got his money, he didn't win, and he got 1575 01:11:59,800 --> 01:12:02,280 Speaker 1: every body he wanted to play, his buddies back in 1576 01:12:02,360 --> 01:12:04,320 Speaker 1: New York to play with him, and he still can't win. 1577 01:12:04,439 --> 01:12:05,719 Speaker 1: He got everything he wanted. 1578 01:12:07,840 --> 01:12:10,120 Speaker 3: He did, he got exactly what he wanted and it 1579 01:12:10,200 --> 01:12:12,160 Speaker 3: still didn't work out. That's why you can't run it 1580 01:12:12,200 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 3: back with him. 1581 01:12:13,120 --> 01:12:15,000 Speaker 2: They did everything, man, They gave him his play call, 1582 01:12:15,120 --> 01:12:17,680 Speaker 2: or they brought some of his favorite people over Elizar 1583 01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 2: Devanta Adams, and they every won. 1584 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:23,639 Speaker 3: They want more with Zach Wilson. If that tells you anything, you. 1585 01:12:23,560 --> 01:12:25,439 Speaker 2: Gotta move on, man, You got to move on, find 1586 01:12:25,439 --> 01:12:27,840 Speaker 2: somebody else, find a new quarterback and just and just 1587 01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,680 Speaker 2: get it going that way. 1588 01:12:29,720 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 1: It really is. And you know what, think about this, 1589 01:12:32,479 --> 01:12:36,080 Speaker 1: what would they be with Sam Donald if Sam Donald 1590 01:12:36,160 --> 01:12:36,799 Speaker 1: was still there? 1591 01:12:38,280 --> 01:12:40,320 Speaker 2: Well, it depends, man, because coaching has a lot to 1592 01:12:40,360 --> 01:12:43,320 Speaker 2: do with it. But yeah, you can see that maybe 1593 01:12:43,560 --> 01:12:47,320 Speaker 2: maybe Sam Donald wasn't as bad as he was pegged 1594 01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,040 Speaker 2: out to be amazing. 1595 01:12:49,080 --> 01:12:51,920 Speaker 1: And they'll they'll be changing coaches. I mean, didn't they 1596 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 1: say that? Was it Rabel? Rabel wants to look suggest 1597 01:12:56,360 --> 01:12:58,840 Speaker 1: just somebody was looking for the judge for another way 1598 01:12:59,400 --> 01:13:02,240 Speaker 1: saw that. But they'll be changing coaches again. If there's 1599 01:13:02,280 --> 01:13:03,479 Speaker 1: no doubt in my mind they got to get a 1600 01:13:03,520 --> 01:13:05,479 Speaker 1: new coach. It's crazy, it really is. 1601 01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:06,439 Speaker 6: It's a big date. 1602 01:13:06,720 --> 01:13:08,160 Speaker 3: They absolutely have to get another coach. 1603 01:13:08,320 --> 01:13:10,680 Speaker 1: It's crazy, it really is. And speaking of getting a 1604 01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:12,720 Speaker 1: new coach, I think I think Gray Bull is going 1605 01:13:12,720 --> 01:13:15,600 Speaker 1: to be gone and Brian Daboll is going to be 1606 01:13:15,600 --> 01:13:17,680 Speaker 1: gone in New York with the Giant. Giants are two 1607 01:13:17,720 --> 01:13:20,200 Speaker 1: and thirteen. They host the Colts today. Colts are seven 1608 01:13:20,200 --> 01:13:22,880 Speaker 1: and eight. It looks like Drew Locke is going to 1609 01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:27,200 Speaker 1: be playing quarterback again. The Colts their playoff chances are there, 1610 01:13:27,240 --> 01:13:29,920 Speaker 1: but they're very slim. They got the Jonathan Taylor run 1611 01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:31,880 Speaker 1: running back. He rushed for two hundred eighteen yards and 1612 01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:35,080 Speaker 1: three touchdowns last Weekainst. Tennessee. So I guess that's the 1613 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,760 Speaker 1: pattern to win. Give them both the Jonathan Taylor. But 1614 01:13:38,600 --> 01:13:41,680 Speaker 1: right now at the Giants, I mean, you got to 1615 01:13:41,720 --> 01:13:45,000 Speaker 1: believe that two teams in one city that are so bad. 1616 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:48,880 Speaker 1: I mean, and look again, you could trace everything with 1617 01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 1: the Giants. Failure is letting Sakuon Barkley go. And I 1618 01:13:53,080 --> 01:13:57,719 Speaker 1: remember looking at Hard Knocks, the ownership of John Marrow 1619 01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:00,160 Speaker 1: wanted to keep them. It was a general matter. Did 1620 01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,000 Speaker 1: you let him go? John Mara, the president and owner 1621 01:14:03,000 --> 01:14:05,519 Speaker 1: of the Giants, wanted sae Quon Barker to stay in 1622 01:14:05,560 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: New York. 1623 01:14:07,320 --> 01:14:11,439 Speaker 2: Amaze, Yeah he did, and they decided to go the 1624 01:14:11,479 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 2: other way. Joe Shane, the general manager, didn't want to 1625 01:14:14,040 --> 01:14:16,439 Speaker 2: stay the course. I felt like they could find a 1626 01:14:16,520 --> 01:14:19,559 Speaker 2: replacement on the streets and it hasn't worked out, and 1627 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:21,720 Speaker 2: so now they have to look at Saquan have an 1628 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:26,320 Speaker 2: MVP caliber season with their rival craziness. 1629 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,200 Speaker 3: That's what that is. Crazy, it really is. It didn't 1630 01:14:29,200 --> 01:14:29,599 Speaker 3: work out. 1631 01:14:29,920 --> 01:14:31,960 Speaker 1: I don't get it. I really don't. All right, let's 1632 01:14:32,040 --> 01:14:34,200 Speaker 1: let's get one more in here at the Panthers four 1633 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,880 Speaker 1: and eleven at the Tampa Bay Bucks right now. And 1634 01:14:36,920 --> 01:14:39,160 Speaker 1: Carolina is playing really good of late, they really are. 1635 01:14:39,360 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: They knocked the Arizona Cardinals out of the playoffs last week, 1636 01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: and today they can knock the Bucks out of the playoffs. 1637 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,439 Speaker 1: Tampa needs a win and a Falcon's loss for the 1638 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:53,000 Speaker 1: NFC South lead, and the Falcons basically playing tonight at Washington, 1639 01:14:53,040 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: so we'll see what happens there. Carolina has the league 1640 01:14:55,960 --> 01:14:59,719 Speaker 1: worst rushing defense, so the Bucks can run with Shod 1641 01:15:00,080 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: Light and Bucky Irving. That's basically the game plan, I 1642 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,960 Speaker 1: would think. But certainly the Panthers are playing with house money. 1643 01:15:06,120 --> 01:15:08,200 Speaker 1: They don't care. They'd love to be the spoiler a 1644 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:09,599 Speaker 1: game for the second week in a row. 1645 01:15:12,160 --> 01:15:15,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, when you're playing with house money, man, you can 1646 01:15:15,960 --> 01:15:18,360 Speaker 2: just do whatever. And so those games to me are 1647 01:15:18,400 --> 01:15:21,320 Speaker 2: the scariest games when you're playing with house money like 1648 01:15:21,360 --> 01:15:22,880 Speaker 2: that and you're doing it, and so you just got to 1649 01:15:22,880 --> 01:15:25,559 Speaker 2: be on alert. You got to make sure that you execute, 1650 01:15:25,600 --> 01:15:27,839 Speaker 2: don't give them a reason to hang in it, continue 1651 01:15:27,840 --> 01:15:28,880 Speaker 2: to play the way that you play. 1652 01:15:29,000 --> 01:15:31,040 Speaker 3: But this is a very, very scary game for him. 1653 01:15:31,240 --> 01:15:33,519 Speaker 1: No doubt about that. Okay, we move on because now 1654 01:15:33,520 --> 01:15:36,639 Speaker 1: it's my game because I'm going to begin to own 1655 01:15:36,720 --> 01:15:39,120 Speaker 1: you in this game. Really, and you know, I hate 1656 01:15:39,120 --> 01:15:40,639 Speaker 1: to say it. I'm not good in a lot of things, 1657 01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:43,280 Speaker 1: but I think that I could, you know, hold my 1658 01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,400 Speaker 1: own in this game with you, and I have over 1659 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,439 Speaker 1: the last several weeks. I know you're a little nervous. 1660 01:15:47,640 --> 01:15:49,280 Speaker 1: You won't admit it, you don't show it. You're pretty 1661 01:15:49,280 --> 01:15:51,559 Speaker 1: good about that. You're probably a pretty good poker player 1662 01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,240 Speaker 1: because you don't show it. But I know internally, I 1663 01:15:54,280 --> 01:15:57,120 Speaker 1: know internally you're nervous. You really are. The race is 1664 01:15:57,240 --> 01:15:59,799 Speaker 1: closer in this game than in most of the divisions 1665 01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:04,400 Speaker 1: and the NFL bottom barrel betting. It's freaking next bottom 1666 01:16:04,479 --> 01:16:07,160 Speaker 1: barrel betting coming right up about ten minutes now before 1667 01:16:07,160 --> 01:16:09,479 Speaker 1: the top of the hour. He's Bucket Brooks. I'm Andy Furman, 1668 01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:12,840 Speaker 1: and we are live from the ti rack dot Com studios. 1669 01:16:12,960 --> 01:16:17,559 Speaker 1: We got a gate to play, so let's play. There's 1670 01:16:17,640 --> 01:16:19,920 Speaker 1: only one man on God's Green Earth that could run 1671 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,280 Speaker 1: this show, that could run this game, that could get 1672 01:16:22,280 --> 01:16:25,160 Speaker 1: it done, and his name is Shae J Shay Harry Ins. 1673 01:16:25,400 --> 01:16:26,679 Speaker 1: And let's get it done. 1674 01:16:27,160 --> 01:16:28,000 Speaker 6: What is up, guys? 1675 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 7: How you doing? Happy Holidays? Kwan'sa Hanukkah, Christmas, Saint Patrick's Day, 1676 01:16:34,439 --> 01:16:37,000 Speaker 7: St Patrick's Day, all of them, Happy holidays. 1677 01:16:37,680 --> 01:16:38,760 Speaker 6: Getting sick of saying you. 1678 01:16:38,720 --> 01:16:41,880 Speaker 1: Sound excited, Come on, let me smell a. 1679 01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:44,760 Speaker 7: Long week guys, but let's let's let's start off with 1680 01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:45,920 Speaker 7: some exciting stuff. 1681 01:16:46,520 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 6: Andy, you get the win? And why did you get 1682 01:16:49,320 --> 01:16:49,599 Speaker 6: the win? 1683 01:16:49,720 --> 01:16:50,160 Speaker 3: You ask? 1684 01:16:50,520 --> 01:16:52,519 Speaker 1: It doesn't. It does make a difference. It's here. 1685 01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:54,439 Speaker 6: Well, this this one, you're gonna care. 1686 01:16:54,600 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 3: Well. 1687 01:16:55,200 --> 01:16:58,080 Speaker 7: Remember how last week we were talking about Magnus Carlson, 1688 01:16:58,160 --> 01:17:01,000 Speaker 7: the chess legend, and there was a bet where you 1689 01:17:01,000 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 7: would choose either for him to win or lose the 1690 01:17:03,600 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 7: Men's Rappid Open. Well, he lost, unfortunately. Well in the 1691 01:17:07,520 --> 01:17:11,280 Speaker 7: way he lost is pretty funny. He actually was kicked 1692 01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:15,720 Speaker 7: out or he left the tournament altogether because he refused. 1693 01:17:15,200 --> 01:17:17,800 Speaker 6: To change out of the jeans he was saw that. 1694 01:17:18,080 --> 01:17:21,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, you see that you had a clothing the situation. Yeah. 1695 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,759 Speaker 7: According to the International Chess Federation, Carlson, who's won five 1696 01:17:24,880 --> 01:17:27,519 Speaker 7: World rappid in seven World Blitz titles in the last 1697 01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 7: ten years, withdrew from the World Blitz Championship, which follows 1698 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:34,759 Speaker 7: this tournament, and said in a statement that Carlson breached 1699 01:17:34,800 --> 01:17:37,360 Speaker 7: the tournament's dress code by wearing jeans. Then the client 1700 01:17:37,479 --> 01:17:41,000 Speaker 7: to change his clothes after the Chief arbiter requested him 1701 01:17:41,040 --> 01:17:43,240 Speaker 7: and issued a fine of two hundred dollars. 1702 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,439 Speaker 6: Kind of guy, Matt Brook some fun little stuff. 1703 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:52,280 Speaker 7: So I had Magnus, had you had Magnus to win 1704 01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 7: the whole tournament? 1705 01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,800 Speaker 6: Okay, which honestly I thought was a good bet. 1706 01:17:56,000 --> 01:17:59,920 Speaker 3: But he wore jeans because of the gens jeans. 1707 01:18:00,040 --> 01:18:02,320 Speaker 6: I guess he's because he didn't win. Where did we stand? 1708 01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:03,960 Speaker 1: Now? I'm breathing down his back there. 1709 01:18:03,880 --> 01:18:04,960 Speaker 6: You're you're three away. 1710 01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:06,960 Speaker 7: It's thirty six to thirty nine and we can only 1711 01:18:07,000 --> 01:18:09,160 Speaker 7: probably get like three in right here, So let's. 1712 01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:10,360 Speaker 1: Be quick, oh, okay. 1713 01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:16,000 Speaker 7: Kazuto Eoka and Fernando Daniel Martinez meet in the WBA 1714 01:18:16,120 --> 01:18:20,080 Speaker 7: and IBF Super Flightweight Unification boxing match, where Fernando is 1715 01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:23,760 Speaker 7: looking to defend the wa WBA Super Flight title on 1716 01:18:23,800 --> 01:18:26,680 Speaker 7: New Year's Eve. Fernando is minus two eighty five while 1717 01:18:26,760 --> 01:18:31,840 Speaker 7: Kuzuto is plus two to ten. Andy would start with you, Fernando, Fernando, 1718 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:34,560 Speaker 7: Sweet Bucky. 1719 01:18:34,360 --> 01:18:35,040 Speaker 6: Let's go to you? 1720 01:18:36,320 --> 01:18:38,000 Speaker 3: Okay, Well, I guess I'd go Cauto. 1721 01:18:38,240 --> 01:18:39,679 Speaker 6: You're excited to say that one. 1722 01:18:41,800 --> 01:18:45,559 Speaker 7: In the World Junior Hockey Championship, the USA Under twenty 1723 01:18:45,600 --> 01:18:48,160 Speaker 7: team is taking on the Canadian under twenty team New 1724 01:18:48,240 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 7: Year's Eve at four thirty pm Pacific Standard time. USA 1725 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:53,880 Speaker 7: is plus one thirty five while Canada is minus one 1726 01:18:53,960 --> 01:18:54,639 Speaker 7: sixty five. 1727 01:18:54,720 --> 01:18:58,080 Speaker 3: Bucky, Oh gets a USA. Gotta be patriotic? 1728 01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:00,960 Speaker 1: Wis my wife is Canadian? 1729 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:01,240 Speaker 2: Oh? 1730 01:19:01,800 --> 01:19:02,960 Speaker 1: Canada? 1731 01:19:04,000 --> 01:19:04,400 Speaker 3: Canada? 1732 01:19:05,600 --> 01:19:06,840 Speaker 1: She's got a green card? You know? 1733 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:07,200 Speaker 3: Oh? 1734 01:19:07,479 --> 01:19:09,360 Speaker 6: Does that means you're gonna be deported. 1735 01:19:08,920 --> 01:19:10,920 Speaker 1: At any moment? Any moment. 1736 01:19:14,200 --> 01:19:15,120 Speaker 6: You're going Canada? 1737 01:19:15,200 --> 01:19:15,719 Speaker 3: I guess. 1738 01:19:15,800 --> 01:19:19,760 Speaker 7: In the PC World Championship, it's a darts competition, the 1739 01:19:19,760 --> 01:19:22,080 Speaker 7: one that starts from December and then ends in January. 1740 01:19:22,280 --> 01:19:26,639 Speaker 7: Ricky Evans is taking on Robert Owens December twenty ninth, 1741 01:19:26,720 --> 01:19:29,920 Speaker 7: eleven to fifteen am Pacific Standard time. Ricky Evans is 1742 01:19:30,200 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 7: minus one forty five O Robert Owen is plus one twenty. 1743 01:19:33,560 --> 01:19:34,439 Speaker 6: Andy, I'll start with you. 1744 01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:39,360 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take the big O Robert Owens, the big. 1745 01:19:39,200 --> 01:19:43,360 Speaker 3: O Bucky where I get to go opposite. I can't 1746 01:19:43,360 --> 01:19:44,880 Speaker 3: take big O. 1747 01:19:44,320 --> 01:19:45,519 Speaker 6: Opposite and then real quick. 1748 01:19:45,520 --> 01:19:48,280 Speaker 7: In the Egyptian Premier League, zed FC is taking on 1749 01:19:48,400 --> 01:19:53,920 Speaker 7: Petro Jet December thirtieth. Z FC is minus one eleven 1750 01:19:53,960 --> 01:19:56,479 Speaker 7: and Petro jettis plus two ninety. Throw it out, Andy, 1751 01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,679 Speaker 7: j JAD Bucky Zip. 1752 01:20:00,120 --> 01:20:02,920 Speaker 1: Sweet, there we go