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Speaker 1: That's right, this is up on game. All right. We

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Speaker 1: got TJ.

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Speaker 5: Hitchman's out of here, I'm here, Plexico's off he's off

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Speaker 5: doing some handling, some family biz. But we got a

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Speaker 5: lot to get to, so let's let's jump straight into it.

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Speaker 5: I tease Josh Allen down playing off season drama with

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Speaker 5: Steph on Diggs, so let's pay off to tease on that.

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Speaker 1: TJ. It just seems as though, and I talked to

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Speaker 5: The show yesterday and he just basically, you know, he

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Speaker 5: it seems like everyone is down playing anything that has

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Speaker 5: to do with Stephan Diggs and with you know what's

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Speaker 5: tell me what you feel about it. He leaves out

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Speaker 5: of the the last game of the year, upset, storms

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Speaker 5: out of the locker room as they reported, and has

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Speaker 5: has an issue and he still has the issue now.

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Speaker 5: That says to me, whatever that issue was as to

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Speaker 5: why he did not and let's be clear, this is

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Speaker 5: what I'm thinking, why he did not have the type

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Speaker 5: feel confident and comfortable that that would not be the

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Speaker 5: trend moving forward, it didn't happen. I mean, is is

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Speaker 5: that logical to say that The only way Stefan Diggs

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Speaker 5: them out of balance in Orchard Park is purely based

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Speaker 5: upon he does not have the offensive coordinator that he

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Speaker 5: I believe he just got renewed or something to that,

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Speaker 5: now Josh Allen is seemingly feeling like he's pressured into

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Speaker 5: what's taking place between the coaching staff, the organization, and

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Speaker 3: This is it's kind of crazy to me when you

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Speaker 3: lost to a Bengals team that was just better. That's

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Speaker 3: number one, Number two, you were the most targeted receiver

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Speaker 1: What are you mad about?

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Speaker 3: You finished the regular season with one hundred and eight

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Speaker 3: You're mad about that that season with Brian Dabel, that

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Speaker 3: You had ten touchdowns. Last year you had eleven. And

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Speaker 3: And so I don't understand where this is coming from,

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Speaker 3: head coach called Josh Allen, called the officer coordinator, and

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Speaker 3: say can we have a meeting? It's still bothering me, Like,

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Speaker 3: At least that's what we are led to believed. Would

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Speaker 1: TJ? Is it? So? Is it? I'm sorry, LeVar? Is it?

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Speaker 5: so adamant about continuing to downplay. You know, he did

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Speaker 3: The last hand he had ten targets, ten targets, more

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Speaker 1: But only had how many catches four? Three? I think

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Speaker 3: Now, I will say this, he had the most targets

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Speaker 5: Me, that bothers the head and stat in that is again,

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Speaker 5: like I said, and those ten targets, how many playble

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Speaker 5: how many of those plays could have been horrible?

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Speaker 1: Right? So then now I would ask you this.

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Speaker 5: I would ask you this because this is more so

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Speaker 5: of a conversation that I think you're more you know,

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Speaker 5: qualified than I am, so I'd rather hear your perspective

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Speaker 5: on it. I made the point the reason why you

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Speaker 5: is because if this is the way that the current

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Speaker 5: then you gotta be prepared to go through another season

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Speaker 5: where I don't agree.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Okay with that, talk to me. Talk

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Speaker 3: The fact that he's their main weapon in the passing

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Speaker 3: a tribute to Ken Dorsey and.

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Speaker 3: He had one hundred and eight catches in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: He had more targets than Jamar Chase, He had more

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Speaker 1: And it bothers me one right.

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Speaker 3: As a temperamental player, and so I feel where he's

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna put my feelings out there and let it

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Speaker 3: have to ask what's wrong with me. I'm gonna tell

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Speaker 3: you to like communication. Let's talk, and you have a

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Speaker 3: that's how you feel. We are going to work through this.

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Speaker 3: But to say that the Buffalo Bills don't want to

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Speaker 3: get him the ball, that's nonsense. He's their best offensive

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Speaker 3: player outside of Josh Allen. They are trying to design

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Speaker 3: I played the National Football League. It's not about the place,

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Speaker 3: it's about the players. So you are designing every play

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Speaker 3: to get your best players the ball. Simple as that.

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Speaker 3: Every time they design to play, how can we get

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Speaker 3: Stefan the ball? That's what they're doing in these game

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Speaker 3: plan meetings as an offensive staff with the Bills. When

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Speaker 3: you're the mind be dog, how can we get Hill

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Speaker 3: get Garrett Wilson the ball? That's the way football works.

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Speaker 3: I'm McVeigh. How can we get Cooper Cup the ball?

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Speaker 3: Like that's what they do? How can we get Devonte

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Speaker 3: Sometimes it just doesn't work that way and it sucks.

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Speaker 3: That is at the Cincinnati Bengals in a playoff game

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Speaker 3: and it had to end that way. But trust and

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Speaker 3: believe they are trying to get him the ball.

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Speaker 5: Well, it'd be interesting to see how that plays out

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Speaker 5: because we're getting closer and closer to football season, and

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Speaker 5: if he's still upset now, I can't imagine he's not

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Speaker 5: Thank you sir. Enjoyed the rest of your weekend, I Loo,

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Speaker 2: Knowledge is about to be dropped on your hate.

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Speaker 1: We got our man, Rep.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the show? RD.

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Speaker 4: How you feeling man, man, We're feeling great. Boxing is

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Speaker 4: keep it real. This is the biggest mistake Osca dela

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Speaker 4: You know, it's a few things. Number One, people love

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Speaker 1: Can pick and choose.

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Speaker 3: Because they say, let's Spence come through this in spectacular fashion.

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Speaker 1: You see where this is going? TJ.

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Speaker 5: and pressured uh Spence in his camp to do the

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Speaker 5: fight well, talking about Canelo and points and money and

436
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 5: compensation and how do you make the fight. Here's what

437
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Speaker 5: Earl Spence Junior had to say about making the fight

438
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Speaker 5: happen from his side.

439
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Speaker 1: Of the story.

440
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Speaker 5: So when I talked to them, the trainer basically said, look,

441
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Speaker 5: Bud made this fight.

442
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Speaker 1: Now.

443
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Speaker 5: I don't know if you've seen it, but It was

444
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Speaker 5: basically like, Bud doesn't make this fight by staying on

445
00:23:37,280 --> 00:23:41,960
Speaker 5: the gas with with earl, it doesn't happen. Is that

446
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 5: is that? Is that how you see it? Or what

447
00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 5: what's your take on it?

448
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,760
Speaker 9: How he made the fight? He dropped out to fight

449
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:52,040
Speaker 9: to fight somebody else, and I stayed in fight.

450
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Speaker 1: I waited and.

451
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Speaker 9: Then even after the fight down reading the fight got

452
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Speaker 9: made because I get him a higher sentence. Then then

453
00:24:01,880 --> 00:24:05,520
Speaker 9: then what everybody thought he deserved. I gave him a

454
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Speaker 9: higher percentage, and that us me what a major fight

455
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Speaker 9: because I gave him a higher percenting what people didn't think,

456
00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:15,399
Speaker 9: not people, but the people that was you know in

457
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Speaker 9: the business that was with me thought I was wasn't

458
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Speaker 9: gonna do it. And I was like, just give you something.

459
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Speaker 9: So he went up five points and I went down

460
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Speaker 9: five points to give him ten points. So that's what

461
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Speaker 9: made the fight. It wasn't nothing he did and made

462
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Speaker 9: a fight. It was me telling them to get him

463
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Speaker 9: he where he needed give give giving them them points

464
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Speaker 9: so we can make the fight.

465
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Speaker 1: Okay.

466
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Speaker 5: So the same thing I said to to the to

467
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Speaker 5: the trainer, I'm gonna say this to you because it

468
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Speaker 5: sounds like the same exact thing I told him. You're

469
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Speaker 5: not pushing to get a fight done, standing on the

470
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Speaker 5: gas to get a fight done. If you think you're

471
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Speaker 5: gonna get your ass with, you're not giving up five points.

472
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Speaker 5: Five points. That's half, right, like that, that's half. You're

473
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Speaker 5: not giving up five more. You're not giving up five

474
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Speaker 5: of your points to make the fight happen. If you

475
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Speaker 5: think he coming in to whoop your ass, like, it's

476
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,760
Speaker 5: just that. That ain't that's not good arithmetic. That's not

477
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,000
Speaker 5: that's just not good math. So you clearly are confident

478
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Speaker 5: that I could give up this five points and I'm

479
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Speaker 5: gonna still be able to make maybe on the rematch,

480
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Speaker 5: maybe there's a bigger fight after this.

481
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Speaker 1: You're clearly confident that you're gonna get this.

482
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Speaker 9: Oh yeah, yeah, man, for sure. I mean it wouldn't know,

483
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Speaker 9: no doubt about it. That's why. That's why basically I

484
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Speaker 9: gave him the points. Like, man, you're giving a point

485
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Speaker 9: on why something? If he do want to remache, he

486
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Speaker 9: watched the end, but I don't think he's gonna do

487
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Speaker 9: the remach is you know, if I think it is

488
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Speaker 9: as as powerful his, you know, the the beating that

489
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Speaker 9: you know, I'm gonna give him. I don't things be

490
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Speaker 9: a rematch?

491
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Speaker 2: Okay?

492
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Speaker 3: And so I mean I always felt like Spence wanted

493
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Speaker 3: to make the fight.

494
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Speaker 1: Fighters want to fight.

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Speaker 3: When Crawford did what he did, it was like, oh,

496
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Speaker 3: do we really want to fight? Oh yeah, Bud went

497
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Speaker 3: out of his way to make this fight. To me,

498
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Speaker 3: when you're the A side, which canelo? Is he making

499
00:26:21,720 --> 00:26:24,080
Speaker 3: Charlie move up to way classes? Is he meeting him

500
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Speaker 3: at one sixty four? Hell nin you come up to

501
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Speaker 3: one sixty eight? Can I get this percent of hell?

502
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Speaker 1: Nw? You take this? Spence is the A side in

503
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Speaker 1: the Crawford fight.

504
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Speaker 3: For him to give up five points, he means five

505
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Speaker 3: percentage points.

506
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Speaker 1: That's a lot of money. He really want this fight.

507
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Speaker 3: He's the one, at least in my opinion, that conceded

508
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 3: more than anything to make this fight happen.

509
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Speaker 1: And it sounds like you agree with that.

510
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Speaker 4: Well, what I'll say is this, and I'm glad you

511
00:26:56,760 --> 00:27:00,000
Speaker 4: got that that SoundBite, bok, because there's so many storylines here.

512
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 4: Let's not forget Terence Crawford left top rank to get

513
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 4: this fight. Okay. I'm not saying that was the initial motivation,

514
00:27:08,960 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 4: because he was obviously mad at Bob aarm, but he

515
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:13,440
Speaker 4: left Top Rank, which was his promoter his whole career,

516
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 4: so that set this off too. The only reason Terrece

517
00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 4: Crawford quote unquote duck the first time in the negotiations

518
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:24,439
Speaker 4: or was looking more difficult is because he on record

519
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 4: said he doesn't believe in pay per view anymore. That's

520
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 4: why he took the fight against David Abanessian on bok Prime,

521
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 4: which was a streaming network that paid him a flat rate.

522
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:35,320
Speaker 4: He said, me and all my friends got fire sticks.

523
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 4: We don't buy pay per view. I don't want to

524
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 4: play myself on the money, especially if he's going to

525
00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:43,320
Speaker 4: have more pay per viewpoints than me. Then Eryl Spence

526
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,480
Speaker 4: doubled down and was like, you know what, I don't

527
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 4: want to let the fans down because I said I

528
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:50,360
Speaker 4: want to give them everything, and he conceded the points.

529
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Speaker 4: So to VA's two interviews, Yes, Bo Mack is correct.

530
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,560
Speaker 4: Terris Crawford did a lot to put himself in position

531
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Speaker 4: to be right for this fight. But yeah, Eryal Spence

532
00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 4: is accurate. He had to lose a little to gain

533
00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,199
Speaker 4: a lot, but he's that confident in himself. But the

534
00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 4: storylines are deep here and it goes back a couple

535
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:11,240
Speaker 4: months than just the negotiations for this fight.

536
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Speaker 1: So this is gonna be a fight fight, right.

537
00:28:13,960 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 5: Like The interesting thing about this one is they're both

538
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,320
Speaker 5: laid back, so so the like the way that it's

539
00:28:21,359 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 5: not an abrasive approach to this fight. In terms of

540
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:28,439
Speaker 5: listening to the way the fighters are speaking at the

541
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:31,439
Speaker 5: at the press conferences, it's more or less kind of

542
00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,959
Speaker 5: they talking that they shooting their shot on what they

543
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:37,679
Speaker 5: talking about. But it's not like, you know, they pushing

544
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 5: each other. Nobody's like I eat your children or anything

545
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 5: like that that's taking place. It just seems real low key,

546
00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:47,720
Speaker 5: real laid back, and it just it makes it difficult

547
00:28:47,760 --> 00:28:50,680
Speaker 5: to kind of like pinpoint who you think made Like,

548
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 5: you know, how you look at something you be like, yeah,

549
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 5: he wanted more. Like first time I'm looking, I'm like

550
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,240
Speaker 5: looking at Bud, I'm like, Bud want this more. I

551
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 5: could like I'm looking in his eyes. It's like like

552
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 5: he ready to go right now. But you know, I'm

553
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 5: looking at Arrow and Arrow just seems like he's just

554
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 5: a super well polished professional that understands the fight game

555
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 5: and understands how to win in boxing. And that to me,

556
00:29:16,680 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 5: I don't know that sounds that sounds pretty dangerous to me.

557
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,600
Speaker 4: No, absolutely dangerous. And you want to know something, I mean,

558
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,040
Speaker 4: at the end of the day, let's keep it real.

559
00:29:25,160 --> 00:29:27,640
Speaker 4: Errol Spence was pretty much hand picked by Floyd Mayweather

560
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 4: to be a sparm partner before he became retired. And also,

561
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:33,920
Speaker 4: you know, guys have been saying that Errol Spence was

562
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 4: that guy at one forty seven for years, so it's

563
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 4: no surprise where he's at. He's never had to talk

564
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,200
Speaker 4: trash to get where he's at. He's one of those

565
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:43,760
Speaker 4: guys that was kind of put in positions and what

566
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 4: a match made really well under the banner that he's

567
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: now under, which is now called PBC. But the end

568
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: of the day, Terrence Crawford has always done the impossible

569
00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 4: for his side. But not forget this man is now

570
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 4: chasing a second undisputed and everybody knows he hangs out

571
00:29:59,480 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 4: with Andrew Lords of course Stevenson, although she calls a

572
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,480
Speaker 4: little younger and a little more feisty, these guys don't

573
00:30:04,480 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 4: really talk trash. He's a throwback fighters, especially Terrence. They

574
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,440
Speaker 4: like their fist to do all the talking and they

575
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 4: know that people want to see it so bad, they

576
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,640
Speaker 4: don't really have to go crazy at each other to

577
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,000
Speaker 4: get it in. But everybody knows that Terrence corpor is

578
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 4: not really a trash talker. El Spence doesn't really have

579
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Speaker 4: to and I think that's the testament also the where

580
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 4: we're at in the game, they don't really have to

581
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 4: do too many shenan against to oversell this. But at

582
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,360
Speaker 4: the same time, fireworks always will happen based on the

583
00:30:30,360 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 4: way they really feel. And I think we've seen what

584
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:34,720
Speaker 4: we need to see smoking on Bud in terms of

585
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:37,720
Speaker 4: what Erl Spence says about Bud and Bud saying he's

586
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:39,600
Speaker 4: going to capture the big fish and file at him

587
00:30:39,600 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 4: and all that. That's pretty much what we're gonna get here.

588
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:44,560
Speaker 4: But I will say that the intensity is there. Terrence

589
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Speaker 4: Corpord knows what this means for his career. He's the

590
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 4: consummate underdog from Nebraska. He's not from the top ten market.

591
00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,560
Speaker 4: He knows what this means. Errol Spence been there, you

592
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 4: know what I'm saying in terms of being at the

593
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Speaker 4: top of this game popularity wise, selling big pay per views,

594
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,200
Speaker 4: selling out at and T Stadium. He knows what this means.

595
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:03,920
Speaker 4: As well, because guess what, although he has the size

596
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 4: and he's the A side TJ, the odds makers have

597
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:09,000
Speaker 4: him on the B side. Yeah, that has to hurt

598
00:31:09,000 --> 00:31:12,200
Speaker 4: his feelings because he knows all the attributes he has

599
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:14,720
Speaker 4: and he brings him to that ring. That says a

600
00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 4: lot to me, and that also gives me a lot

601
00:31:16,640 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 4: of confidence about Terrence's ability. And I'm gonna say it again,

602
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,640
Speaker 4: I just think Terrence Corporate is half a step better.

603
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:24,920
Speaker 4: I don't think this is gonna be a knockout situation.

604
00:31:25,040 --> 00:31:26,960
Speaker 4: Although anything can happen in a fight. I think it's

605
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 4: gonna be a hard twelve round and I'm looking for

606
00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 4: a Gannadi Glocku Canelo type of fight where you have

607
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,120
Speaker 4: two guys that wanted bad. One's gonna box a little

608
00:31:36,160 --> 00:31:38,520
Speaker 4: better and one's gonna slug it out. We know Arrow's

609
00:31:38,760 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 4: punch output is high. He's gonna be relentless. We know

610
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: Terrence knows how to evade and download information. It's a

611
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:46,800
Speaker 4: chest match at the end of the day.

612
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean both fighters are obviously the best two

613
00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 3: fighters in their division and have been that way for

614
00:31:54,960 --> 00:31:58,240
Speaker 3: a while. I just I'm not sure that we've seen

615
00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:03,600
Speaker 3: somebody pressure on Crawford the way Spence will but put

616
00:32:03,640 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 3: the pressure on him and be so fundamentally sound with

617
00:32:07,880 --> 00:32:10,880
Speaker 3: his skills and his technique, like Sean Crawford puts the

618
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 3: pressure on you, but it's unorthodox.

619
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Speaker 1: It's different.

620
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:17,240
Speaker 3: Spence is coming at you, hands up and punch a

621
00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 3: position at all times, defensively, sound at all times, and

622
00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 3: he's not gonna let Crawford hold him.

623
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Speaker 1: Like you can.

624
00:32:25,920 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 3: Only move around that ring for so many rounds unless

625
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,840
Speaker 3: you catching with some early. Eventually that fatigue is gonna

626
00:32:33,840 --> 00:32:36,000
Speaker 3: set in. You're gonna have to set your feet and

627
00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: let's go.

628
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 4: That's true.

629
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Speaker 3: I like Spencing that if it gets to that. I

630
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 3: like Spencing that because this is what he does. When

631
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: we seeing Crawford, five guys that want to bring the pressure,

632
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,200
Speaker 3: He's gonna hold Spence, ain't let in the mode.

633
00:32:51,640 --> 00:32:53,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I want to see if Spence can take the

634
00:32:53,200 --> 00:32:54,160
Speaker 4: body shops.

635
00:32:53,800 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 3: Though what's good for you is good for what's good

636
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 3: for you was good. That's what Spence does. He breaks

637
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 3: you down to the body. I mean we Crawford was

638
00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: hurt by down boy Crawford. He was dropped by what's

639
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 3: buddy mean machine? Right, he was dropped we've never seen.

640
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,440
Speaker 3: We've seen Spence stunned, but he wasn't dropped. They didn't

641
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,240
Speaker 3: count that as a knockdown. But he was dropped.

642
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: He was dropped. He got him in that last fight.

643
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Speaker 3: But but Crawford, Crawford is a dog man like he

644
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 3: That's why this fight. If you pick Crawford, I picked Spence.

645
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 3: You we both can be right. There's no like what

646
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,800
Speaker 3: you thinking. It's like it's a coin flip.

647
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Speaker 5: That's it, all right, before we get up out of here,

648
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Speaker 5: Game as well the up on Game Dot network. Talk

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Speaker 5: to me about Timothy Bradley. That's that's your latest your

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Speaker 5: latest article. Talk to me a little bit about because

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Speaker 5: I'm trying to understand why is he so hell bent

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Speaker 5: on parents not being a father's not being able to

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Speaker 5: train their kids.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, man, it's kind of crazy. It's all about Tafi

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Speaker 4: Mo Lopez. You know, for the longest people have criticized

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Speaker 4: tiafim Mo Lopez Senior, which is the son's father, the

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Speaker 4: trainer as well as the manager about, you know, being

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Speaker 4: kind of overbearing and that's affecting his career. We've seen

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Speaker 4: that taf Molpez Junior has had bout with depression. He

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Speaker 4: kind of gets a little nutty in the media. And

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Speaker 4: Tim Bradley feels that the fathers at some point start

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Speaker 4: doing a little too much because they're financially dependent on

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Speaker 4: their sons and that affects the athleticism that the sons

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Speaker 4: can do. And he thinks that tiaf Mo Lopez's retirement

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Speaker 4: after a brilliant performance against Josh Taylor in Madison Square

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Speaker 4: Garden is a perfect example, because why when you're on

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Speaker 4: the top after losing the Campbosos and watching everybody kind

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Speaker 4: of look at you as you know, formerly as champion

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Speaker 4: from when you you know, from when you beat Lomachenko

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Speaker 4: and that was like your greatest glory. You come back

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Speaker 4: to get to Josh Taylor beat him in America and

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Speaker 4: then you retire Immediately. People feel like Malopez Senior was

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Speaker 4: the result of that. And Tim Bradley specifically believes that

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Speaker 4: the boxing dynamic of father son trainers and managers is

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Speaker 4: just run its course and ironic. It's ironic because Tim

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Speaker 4: Bradley is the product of a father trained him, right,

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Speaker 4: but he was his second trainer, right, he wasn't his primary.

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Speaker 4: Suppo's put that out there. So Bradley had Teddy Atlas,

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Speaker 4: you know Joel Garcia as well. I mean Joel did

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Speaker 4: excuse me as well. But at the end of the day,

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Speaker 4: Tim Bradley's making a case that Box needs to re

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Speaker 4: examine the family relationships and all of that. And I

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Speaker 4: just think it's two time honored you and didn't Ward

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Speaker 4: his dad?

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Speaker 5: Didn't Ward have his dad with him? And war Floyd did?

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Speaker 5: Floyd did Lloyd?

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Speaker 1: Who else? There's another? There's another, There's another.

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Speaker 4: One, Sean Porter, Kenny Porter, the.

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Speaker 3: Vargas Vargas family, well, Fernando Vargas is training his sons.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I can't see how that, like all them,

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Speaker 5: people are not financially dependent upon their kids to make money.

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Speaker 1: I'm let's be clear here.

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Speaker 5: I think that that there's a hole and there's a

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Speaker 5: you can punch holes into that that discussion point, right.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm a paragra. I coach my kid. I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't ever feel as though I'm doing anything outside

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Speaker 5: of the parameters in the realm of of just giving

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Speaker 5: him his opportunity to grow, make it his his deal,

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Speaker 5: but give him equip him with what he needs in

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Speaker 5: order to be successful. Nobody is going to care more

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Speaker 5: about you than your your dad, Like I don't.

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Speaker 1: I don't get that. I don't get that.

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Speaker 4: That's the family traumas going on in there, in the

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Speaker 4: Lotez family specifically, And I think that Tim Bradley. Bradley

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Speaker 4: has a pension to, you know, just to say what

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Speaker 4: he feels raw and una bashed, and I think that's

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Speaker 4: probably why he made the cut with the ESPN layoffs,

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Speaker 4: respectfully because he's still on air. But I think at

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Speaker 4: the end of the day, you know, is like a

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Speaker 4: new case study in terms of boxing. I think I

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Speaker 4: think a lot of it has to do with suppression,

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Speaker 4: you know, getting divorced recently, has a lot going on

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Speaker 4: in terms of custody with his kids, So there's a

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Speaker 4: lot of other things mixed in with this. But I

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Speaker 4: think Tim Bradley points to one thing. But I also

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Speaker 4: Tim Bradley is just always aggravated with the game in general,

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Speaker 4: so I take what he says with a grain of salt.

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Speaker 4: But he does bring up a point because he's an insider,

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Speaker 4: and he had his dad adjacent to him his whole career,

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Speaker 4: So I don't want to disrespect his opinion and his

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Speaker 4: outlook because he is a former World champions.

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Speaker 5: That is Rhett Butler of Pretty Left Hook podcast. Make

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Speaker 5: podcast up on Game Presents. Yeah, he writes for a

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Speaker 5: Shadow League as well. I mean, you just everywhere, man,

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Speaker 5: I can't. We're gearing up for this fight, right Like

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Speaker 5: I mean, I want to see this Earl Spence fight.

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Speaker 5: I want to see the Terrence Crawford fight. So you know,

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Speaker 5: we're gearing up for this TJ.

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Speaker 1: You know what I mean. If you know whatever you're thinking,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean. He might be on the field,

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Speaker 1: you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: But let's see what I hap happens. But we appreciate

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Speaker 5: you coming on to the show, man, so we'll see

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Speaker 5: you soon. Talk to you soon.

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Speaker 1: Alright, brother, my man, I'm all right.

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Speaker 5: That's Rep. Butler right there. We're gonna take a quick break.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna wrap the show up on the other side.

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Speaker 5: Uh uh come on, yeah, come on, yeah, come on,

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Speaker 5: whoo whoo yeah, welcome back in it's up on game

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Speaker 5: a crazy show. Anything that we miss on TJ that

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Speaker 5: that you wanted to throw out there, What you're feeling,

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Speaker 5: what you're thinking. I mean, you know the Marcus Smarty

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Speaker 5: thinks that he fits well in Memphis. You know, the

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Speaker 5: women Yama. You know, he says he's going to continue

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Speaker 5: to get better. You know, he had a decent game.

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Speaker 5: Not not super impressive, but you know, not not a

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Speaker 5: letdown either. Just you know you're looking for Lebron every

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Speaker 5: time somebody compares best prospect ever.

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Speaker 1: But did you miss anything? Nah?

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Speaker 3: Man like and you gotta understand, man, women, did he

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Speaker 3: have the best game? I ain't gonna lie. I watched it.

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Speaker 3: My son was like, women, y'ah am about to play.

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Speaker 3: We got to watch the game. Women, Y'am'm about the like.

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Speaker 1: Crew was ready for the game. So we watched all

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Speaker 1: of it.

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Speaker 3: He didn't have the best offensive game, but he impacted

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Speaker 3: the game defensively, just his presence. It's the Summer League. Man,

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Speaker 3: the guy, the guy, the kid can really play. It's

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Speaker 3: gonna be a treat to watching develop He's with the Spurs,

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Speaker 3: who have done a really good job of developing players.

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Speaker 3: Popovich had Tim Duncan. Now you got Victor women Yama. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: well we'll see how that all works out. To all

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