WEBVTT - Succession S4 Ep 5 + 6

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<v Speaker 1>Succession on Max. Hello, my name is Jason Concepcion and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Rosey Night and welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>In this episode, it's a super sized edition of Market Moves.

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<v Speaker 2>It's moving. Get your money ready because things are moving.

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<v Speaker 2>They're moving up, they're moving out, moving sidewkiss.

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<v Speaker 1>Those hondows laid out and a beautiful fan, and get

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<v Speaker 1>ready to invest. Invest, invest, because the stack is only

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<v Speaker 1>going up.

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<v Speaker 2>Succession Episode five and six from season four. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>on holiday and then we're gonna live forever. It's gonna

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<v Speaker 2>be great, guys. And in nodoubt, David pictures us on

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<v Speaker 2>Red Dead Redemption two as the next video games TV adaptation.

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<v Speaker 2>I would love to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up market. Booz, all you roise pop your value

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<v Speaker 1>like this can? And Roman and Connor and Shiv, all

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<v Speaker 1>you roise pop your value like this can and Roman

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<v Speaker 1>and Connor and Shive. Just do it, do it? Do it?

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<v Speaker 1>Do it?

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<v Speaker 3>Do it now, Bite it good. Bite my arm just

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<v Speaker 3>like you should. Right now, bite it good, Bite my

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<v Speaker 3>arm just like you should. My mar my kit, my move,

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<v Speaker 3>and my vest, my mar my cat, my move, and

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<v Speaker 3>my vest, my mar, my cat, my move.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, it's Market.

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<v Speaker 1>We're covering episode five and six of succession season four,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're going to Norway. In episode five, we open

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<v Speaker 1>with the new co CEO structure in place. Interim boy kings,

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<v Speaker 1>Ken and Roman begin making their marks at waste Our

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<v Speaker 1>HQ that means walking in getting applause from everyone. The

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<v Speaker 1>c suite boy ours get whipped into line and they're

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<v Speaker 1>getting ready for their journey to Norway to grease the

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<v Speaker 1>birth canal of the Gojo deal. Lucas Matson requesting the

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<v Speaker 1>presence of all the players large and small, not just

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<v Speaker 1>the roy family, but all the kind of upper level

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<v Speaker 1>executives that they might want to keep or might want

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<v Speaker 1>a fire, as the case may be. And the timing,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, isn't great, what with Logan recently dropping dead

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<v Speaker 1>on an airplane Rosie remember that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and Ken and Roman have literally been in power

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<v Speaker 2>for twenty four hours.

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<v Speaker 1>Give ord Tank.

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<v Speaker 2>It's bad timing and this is an obvious power play

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<v Speaker 2>from Matson, who is just doing the most this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>The grieving pro pross is still ongoing with the roy children,

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<v Speaker 1>but Lucas Madson doesn't care about any of that, and

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<v Speaker 1>Ken says, okay, well, let's just do it. Let's go

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<v Speaker 1>over there and bleed the suite on the plane over.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken and Roman do the absolute least they can do

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<v Speaker 1>to make make Shim feel like she's part of this,

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<v Speaker 1>as they had kind of agreed upon soft agreed upon

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<v Speaker 1>earlier that they were all everything's gonna come across your table,

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<v Speaker 1>as Shiv, you're gonna be involved in No, and they

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<v Speaker 1>are really not even trying to make her feel like

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<v Speaker 1>she's part of it.

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<v Speaker 2>This is a mistake that they will soon come to regret.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel as we look upon the fortunes of the

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<v Speaker 2>future Wastear Royco Company and it is just so hilarious

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<v Speaker 2>and bleak. How quickly they went back on that word.

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<v Speaker 2>This was literally yesterday.

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<v Speaker 4>And.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying, we said going to and guess what

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<v Speaker 2>they're doing it. They cut her out to them.

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<v Speaker 1>To the victor of the spoils, and you know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a piece of paper with Ken's name on it. And

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<v Speaker 1>Shiv meanwhile, is concerned that there's all these stories and

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<v Speaker 1>forubes and business inside her in Wall Street Journal at

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<v Speaker 1>about Logan about what a shit show his late reign was,

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<v Speaker 1>and she is like, what's going on with this? I

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<v Speaker 1>thought we is this coming from us? I thought we

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<v Speaker 1>agreed not to slander Dad as he is laid freshly

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<v Speaker 1>in his grave. And Ken Roman are like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>we were crunching all these numbers here and we got

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<v Speaker 1>to get ready for this deal. What are you the

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<v Speaker 1>with Like, let's talk to Hugh Hugo. This is not

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<v Speaker 1>coming from us, right, And he goes like, no.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you ever heard of this?

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<v Speaker 1>And uh and so that's over with. And meanwhile, shiv

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<v Speaker 1>Uh Ken and Roman say, if you want us to

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<v Speaker 1>fire Tom in the most humiliating possible way, that off

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<v Speaker 1>to you, dear sister, draw and quarter him, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>hang him, not until dead, until he's merely unconscious. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we go in and we cut open his abdomen

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<v Speaker 1>and we pull his guts out in front of him.

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<v Speaker 1>We put it on a fire and we burn from

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<v Speaker 1>and then we cut him up into pieces and we

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<v Speaker 1>put his head on the spike. We can do that

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<v Speaker 1>if that's what you want. And she was like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Meanwhile, the old guard Frank Carl, Carolina

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<v Speaker 1>Hugo and the other guy are pinching their sides to

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<v Speaker 1>see which one of them is the fattest hog at

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<v Speaker 1>the slaughterhouse. And as rumors of a kill list circulate.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry tells everyone, settle down, listen, I get it. We're

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<v Speaker 1>going over there to meet the upper level GOJO people

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all like ex Olympians and they yeah, they're

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<v Speaker 1>like in their mid thirties and they're all like full

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<v Speaker 1>bright scholars with PhDs. But they're all fucking soft because

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<v Speaker 1>they had that socialist healthcare and they never had to

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<v Speaker 1>worry about like going to the dentist. Meanwhile, we came

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<v Speaker 1>up through the through the mean meat grinder of the

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<v Speaker 1>American system, and we're fucking tough, and they put mayo

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<v Speaker 1>in their fries and we eat blood red states. Don't

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<v Speaker 1>worry about it. They're soft.

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<v Speaker 2>First prompt, Rosie, what is that guy's name? Harry? I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, he's just that. Okay, you're going with Harry?

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<v Speaker 2>I think. I think, what about Harry?

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<v Speaker 1>I know what it is, and I'm just gonna say

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<v Speaker 1>what it is, but I'm also going to say that

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<v Speaker 1>I only know because I had to look it up.

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<v Speaker 2>His name is Ray and Ray uh my.

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<v Speaker 1>My most indelible memory of Ray is from the boor

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<v Speaker 1>on the floor outing and I believe Romanian holiday. He

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<v Speaker 1>shows up, I think wherever it was Tom said, sothing

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<v Speaker 1>like spooky Dracula something, And he was the guy during

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<v Speaker 1>boor on the floor who was like really really into it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, yeah, I would you get that sot. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Gojo confab happens at like this really gorgeous

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<v Speaker 1>resort of some kind Norwegian kind.

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<v Speaker 2>Of like I don't know. He seems to be very

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<v Speaker 2>comfortable there.

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<v Speaker 1>There's beautiful there's like a gondola going up to the

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<v Speaker 1>top of this peak, and then all the buildings are

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<v Speaker 1>like this glass and closed, like futuristic shit like that

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<v Speaker 1>the billionaire would from X Macino would live in kind

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<v Speaker 1>of now, as they're heading up in the gondola, the

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<v Speaker 1>old guard, Carl in particular, is like, okay, Ken, do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to go over the money one more time?

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<v Speaker 1>And of course Carl has visions of of of Lesbos

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<v Speaker 1>or some other Greek asle like dancing in his head,

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<v Speaker 1>and and Ken is like, no, listen, I understand. One

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<v Speaker 1>four is are absolutely can't go lower than this price,

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<v Speaker 1>and we want to go higher than that, and we'd

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<v Speaker 1>love one forty eight, but we'd settle for like one

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<v Speaker 1>forty five. And when they say one forty five they mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Billion billion, forty five billion dollar billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh and so, and Ken's like, I get it, so

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<v Speaker 1>we'll get him. We'll get him about one to forty four. Meanwhile,

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<v Speaker 1>Connor is back stateside and he's dealing with the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that Marshall wants to wants to have Logan laying in

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<v Speaker 1>his coffin in a kilt, which Connor thinks is weird

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<v Speaker 1>despite the fact that Logan is from Scotland, was a

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<v Speaker 1>Scottish man, a proud Scottish man, and a supporter of

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<v Speaker 1>either Hibbs or Hearts And I'm not I forget do

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<v Speaker 1>we know if Romans still oads that team Jack is

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<v Speaker 1>co owner of either Hibbs or Hearts basically calls Ken saying,

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<v Speaker 1>give me full authority to tell Marsha that we can't

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<v Speaker 1>very pop in a kilt, and Ken is like whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>he hangs up on.

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<v Speaker 2>Him, and he also says, very blankly, He's like, send

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<v Speaker 2>photos of your dad's inn bombed body, keep off.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh. The boys initial meeting with Mattson begins with a

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<v Speaker 1>really awkward like nod to the fact that Logan is

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<v Speaker 1>freshly embombed, like not cold yet, and Madison wants to

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<v Speaker 1>have a dead dad Dick measuring contest with Lucas saying

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<v Speaker 1>at least you didn't find him in his BMW with

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<v Speaker 1>the engine running, YadA YadA, YadA. And when this gets

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<v Speaker 1>no reaction because it's a very very weird thing to say,

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<v Speaker 1>like off like as a hello, he then goes, what, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no sympathy for Lucas, no awe.

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<v Speaker 5>For he is a true If you want already aware

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<v Speaker 5>that Scott's God is playing Lucas Madison as an absolute sociopath,

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<v Speaker 5>you will be aware by the end of this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, So they get down to brass coffin nails

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<v Speaker 1>quite quickly. The boys, backed by the board want more

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<v Speaker 1>money for wast Star for various reasons. They think it's undervalue.

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<v Speaker 1>They you know, they want at In out of the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>They want the price up. Lucas meanwhile, I was saying, well,

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<v Speaker 1>if you want, if you're taking something out but the

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<v Speaker 1>price is going up, how does that make sense. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>getting less and I'm paying more. And he says, what

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<v Speaker 1>about this. Put at In back in the bag and

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<v Speaker 1>I'll buy it all for one eighty seven to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>to fifty cash stock deal. Now, for those counting, that

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<v Speaker 1>is a lot more than one forty four.

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<v Speaker 2>That is the dollar price for the each share. That's

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<v Speaker 2>why I just remembered because I looked it up. So

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<v Speaker 2>it's one hundred and forty four dollars a share or

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<v Speaker 2>one hundred and eighty seven dollars a shah. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>still like a fuck ton more, but just a real.

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<v Speaker 1>A fuck ton of money. And again that is that

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<v Speaker 1>is the expertise that market moves brigs to the numbers

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<v Speaker 1>and the context and the stocks and the bonds and

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<v Speaker 1>the ethereum and the crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>It is a lot more. Eight one hundred and eighty

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<v Speaker 2>seven is more than one hundred and forty four.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you know that second prompt, Rosie? What is your

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<v Speaker 1>absolute basement amount of money to tell everyone to go

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<v Speaker 1>fuck off and and you would never be seen again.

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<v Speaker 1>You'd just be living your life writing Gudzilla comics for

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<v Speaker 1>fun and doing whatever you want with your life. What

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<v Speaker 1>is the absolute bare minimum amount of money that you

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<v Speaker 1>would be like, I can quit everything and I will

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<v Speaker 1>move to somewhere and I'll just do nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>I am an extremely thrifty person, so it's probably a

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<v Speaker 2>lot lower than anything else. But we're talking succession, so

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<v Speaker 2>I'll put up yeah, if if I could, I would

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<v Speaker 2>take you know, I'll go in those I believe in

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<v Speaker 2>no such thing as a good billionaire. I'm not going there,

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<v Speaker 2>but I could do that for ten mil. I could

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<v Speaker 2>be gone. No one would ever see me again, no question.

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<v Speaker 2>I put a million in a high interest the count

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<v Speaker 2>because that's kind of thing with your market moves. I

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<v Speaker 2>buy a little house and you never see me again.

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<v Speaker 2>I have no social media.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done. I like it. The current as of March ninth,

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty three, Biden Harris administration, a defense department budget

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<v Speaker 1>is eight hundred and forty two billion dollars. Wow. I

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<v Speaker 1>would need about a trillion dollars to really settle down

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<v Speaker 1>because I got too many things on my mind. I

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<v Speaker 1>too many, I got too many ideas. I can't settle

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<v Speaker 1>down for anything less than it. I would go as

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<v Speaker 1>low as maybe eight hundred billion.

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<v Speaker 2>I like that. I go as low. You'll take what

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<v Speaker 2>the general average military budget is.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's fair, right, I think that is fair.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken and Roman, now kenan Roman should leap at this

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty seven. Yeah, we want it. That's so much immediately,

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<v Speaker 1>like incredible. Now, of course, do your due diligence. You see,

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<v Speaker 1>if you can prod him any higher, if he says

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<v Speaker 1>one eighty seven off rip, maybe he'd go a little higher.

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<v Speaker 1>But this is immediately it's a win. You can go

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<v Speaker 1>back to the board and the board would would be

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<v Speaker 1>throwing flowers at you forever, that forever. But because kenan

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<v Speaker 1>Roman in their hearts and their dark, shriveled, little tiny

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<v Speaker 1>pee hearts, don't want to sell.

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<v Speaker 2>They want the deal. I just don't want it. I

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<v Speaker 2>just want to say I have believed ever since Kendall

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<v Speaker 2>got the phone call from Matson where Madson was like,

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<v Speaker 2>if your dad pushes for more money, I'm not doing

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<v Speaker 2>the deal. I believe Kendall has planned to tank this

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<v Speaker 2>deal since then, and now he is planning to tank

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<v Speaker 2>it even more. And hilariously, these two are such fuck

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<v Speaker 2>ups they can't even tank the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>Well in there, in fairness to Ken, Madson did say, hey,

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<v Speaker 1>if you raise the price at all, I'm fucking out,

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<v Speaker 1>and then they asked they tried to raise the price,

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<v Speaker 1>and Mason clearly was not out. It's true, if it's true,

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<v Speaker 1>if if this was like pure a move, which it's not,

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<v Speaker 1>because they want to take the deal.

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<v Speaker 2>But it was a move move.

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<v Speaker 1>So the boys want to tank the deal, and Matson,

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<v Speaker 1>I think understands on some kind of instinctive level, like

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<v Speaker 1>a hog, you know, digging for for a truffle, understands

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<v Speaker 1>that he smells some sort of like emotional weakness, even

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<v Speaker 1>if he doesn't quite understand that that it's that they

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<v Speaker 1>want to tank the deal. He understands that there's an

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<v Speaker 1>emotional connection to at and that was their dad's baby.

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<v Speaker 1>Their dad Logan fucking loved ATN. He made that big

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<v Speaker 1>speech at ATN. He was gonna fucking install himself as

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<v Speaker 1>the cock of the walk back at ATN. He's the

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<v Speaker 1>rebuilders that part. He loved ATN, and the boys want

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<v Speaker 1>it for that reason because his dad's favorite favorite thing

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<v Speaker 1>in the world. It's like a like his favorite watch.

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<v Speaker 1>And so Matson just wants it to fuck them, that's

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<v Speaker 1>all he He just wants ATN to say, fuck you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>and fuck your dad. He's dead. Fuck you. So the

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<v Speaker 1>boys now have to figure out how to not tell

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<v Speaker 1>the board what's going on, because they would clearly put

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous pressure on them to take the deal. For her part,

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<v Speaker 1>Shiv is fine with losing NTAN it sucks. It is

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<v Speaker 1>against kind of her politics sort of. It's openly allied

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<v Speaker 1>with neo fascist candidate Jared Mankin, who is apparently like

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<v Speaker 1>directing the editorial over there at atn now. And it's

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<v Speaker 1>time to sell it for an incredible aut amount of

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<v Speaker 1>money and just enjoy life. And the boys say, okay, yeah, totally,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll look into that. Meanwhile, they're going to kill the deal.

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<v Speaker 1>And as is going on, there are rumors of the

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<v Speaker 1>Viking kill list circulating amongst everyone on the waist side.

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<v Speaker 1>Third propt Who would you kill? Of? Who would you keep?

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<v Speaker 1>Rosy Coe is acquiring not just Wastetar but also Gojo.

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<v Speaker 1>You're acquiring both companies in a tremendous fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>cat Stark deal directly out of rosy cost pockets.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of money I should have already disappeared.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, who are.

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<v Speaker 1>You retaining and who are you firing?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm I'm absolutely retaining. I'm sorry. I don't care if

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<v Speaker 2>she doesn't have the I'm putting this inverted Commas experience here,

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<v Speaker 2>Shi is staying. I think she is the only one

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<v Speaker 2>with any sense. She I'm also doing. I like what

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<v Speaker 2>Shiv does here, as we will get into. I'm keeping Carolina.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm keeping Jerry Carolina. I like yeah, I like that too,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm keeping those three. I'm mad if I'm really doing it,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm making one of those kind of deals where like

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<v Speaker 2>I'm paying them so much money. I'm not having any

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<v Speaker 2>Matt's in Roman, Kendall or gone, Like, go sit somewhere

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<v Speaker 2>else with your money. Do not be here with your sociopathic,

0:17:52.560 --> 0:17:57.159
<v Speaker 2>terrible business plans and awful scandalous I'm bringing in somebody

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<v Speaker 2>completely new to run it. You're all out, but gallo

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<v Speaker 2>of money, because that's the way this stuff goes.

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<v Speaker 1>I like those picks. Here's who what I would keep.

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<v Speaker 1>If I was acquiring a Gojo n Wat Star and

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<v Speaker 1>really everybody in succession. If I'm buying the entire succession

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<v Speaker 1>IP for a tremendous amount of money fifty to fifty

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<v Speaker 1>cash stock deal, I would retain Willa and Listen Sand.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, Winning over Sand was a flop.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, the sand wasn't right, among many other things, and

0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:34.720
<v Speaker 1>the acting and the writing were terrible. But in the

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<v Speaker 1>creative process, there's no such thing as failure. You got

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<v Speaker 1>to keep going like that. This was her first foray

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<v Speaker 1>into into writing for the stage on a big in

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<v Speaker 1>a big way, you know, the biggest on Broadway, the biggest.

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<v Speaker 2>Way, and and it was a good first try.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think that listen, as they say in the business,

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<v Speaker 1>buy the dip. That was the dip that stock is,

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<v Speaker 1>the will of stock is the lowest can get. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it can only go up. I am buying Willa

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<v Speaker 1>because I think those second and third and fourth projects

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<v Speaker 1>are gonna be better than Sad. I'm keeping Jerry because

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's the only one that's good at a job.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna keep Frank because I just like that guy too.

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<v Speaker 2>He's a good guy to having your corner, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I'm gonna keep Colin because somebody might try to

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<v Speaker 1>throw on because I'm so so so rich after acquiring

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<v Speaker 1>the succession ipe and you know, one of these pinko

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<v Speaker 1>socialists might try to throw urine on me as I

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<v Speaker 1>walk into the building.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I just want to say, I think all your picks.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are listening and you want to know who

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<v Speaker 2>to buy on, I say buy on Willa because you

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<v Speaker 2>know something that we learned today that has been kept

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<v Speaker 2>fairly out of the press, and the narrative of this

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<v Speaker 2>show and to the sidelines is the Royko Wata entertainment business.

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<v Speaker 2>We are gonna wait somebody to oversee the storytelling. The

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<v Speaker 2>movie we have going on, as we will get into,

0:20:06.359 --> 0:20:09.360
<v Speaker 2>is not doing wow. We need vision. We need how

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<v Speaker 2>to come in and tell my budget what to do.

0:20:12.720 --> 0:20:17.199
<v Speaker 1>Ballon CG is not looking good. The robot spends too

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<v Speaker 1>much time active.

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<v Speaker 2>In the cave.

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<v Speaker 1>We need to pump this up. We need a franchise, folks.

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<v Speaker 1>We need a hit. We need a tent pole, and

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<v Speaker 1>we need like the sequel, and we need the trilogy,

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<v Speaker 1>and then we need the spin offs. And I think

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<v Speaker 1>Willa is the person to do it. I freaking do

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<v Speaker 1>it this, Listen. It's much easier, I think, to write

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<v Speaker 1>for the summer movie blockbuster market than it is for

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<v Speaker 1>Broadway with those snooty people. And I think you're right,

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<v Speaker 1>You're absolutely right about that. Kenon Roman counter they say,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the okay? We take at and back out. What's

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<v Speaker 1>the price for the deal? Mattson says, listen, why do

0:20:51.800 --> 0:20:54.720
<v Speaker 1>you even want it? It fucking sucks. It's propaganda for

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<v Speaker 1>angry elderly diabetics. Which is all true, but he just

0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:03.040
<v Speaker 1>wants it, and he and he doesn't even want to

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<v Speaker 1>say why he wants it because he's just buying it.

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<v Speaker 2>He's like, I'm just gonna make it like Bloomberg. If

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna be simple, it's gonna be cheap, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be great, and you guys can ask nothing about it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then he shits on the Boys and Shive and says,

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<v Speaker 1>basically like, listen, your dad was one thing, but you

0:21:17.720 --> 0:21:18.880
<v Speaker 1>guys are just a tribute band.

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<v Speaker 2>That's such a good insult that's up that would legendary

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<v Speaker 2>succession insults.

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<v Speaker 1>The boys and Shivs say, okay, we'll take it to

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<v Speaker 1>the board, but of course the boys don't want to

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<v Speaker 1>take it to the board, and that night, without ship,

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<v Speaker 1>they decide to take the deal off.

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<v Speaker 2>Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Kenda La Murta's chaotic motherfuckers,

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<v Speaker 2>they say about they're like to their credit, they do

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<v Speaker 2>talk about bringing Shiv in, and then Ken says, but

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<v Speaker 2>do you think Pinky can dance?

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think that she could do this song and

0:21:49.440 --> 0:21:51.240
<v Speaker 1>dance required to tank the deal? And of course they

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<v Speaker 1>don't think she can do it, so they cut her

0:21:52.600 --> 0:21:58.800
<v Speaker 1>up fucking guys, These fucking guys while that's going on show.

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<v Speaker 1>She's not a staying good She's not just like doing

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<v Speaker 1>could see in the box that people want to put

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<v Speaker 1>her in. She goes and meets one on one with Matton,

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<v Speaker 1>who is blowing coke. Now, Shiv an expectant mother. No

0:22:12.880 --> 0:22:16.040
<v Speaker 1>one knows this is offered coke. And if you'll notice,

0:22:16.040 --> 0:22:18.320
<v Speaker 1>she just puts it in her hair. She pretends that

0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:20.040
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna stort it, but she just puts it in

0:22:20.040 --> 0:22:21.800
<v Speaker 1>her hand. And I think that's responsible, and that's the

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<v Speaker 1>kind of thing you want to see.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you this episode. I've always been a Shiv fan. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's got problems and they all have. You're being

0:22:33.080 --> 0:22:37.960
<v Speaker 2>incredibly toxic romantic partner. But I am now rooting for Shiv,

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<v Speaker 2>and I actually have I understand that people are taking

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<v Speaker 2>her arc this season in two different ways. Some people

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<v Speaker 2>see it as she's being pushed to the side or

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<v Speaker 2>being put in a kind of fem fatale trope that

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't suit her. I personally love to see Shiv taking

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<v Speaker 2>on these idiotic men and using her kind of feminine

0:22:58.440 --> 0:23:01.840
<v Speaker 2>wiles on that she is doing at least the tiniest

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<v Speaker 2>amount of effort and they are absolutely failing for it,

0:23:04.640 --> 0:23:07.440
<v Speaker 2>and she is gaining control over them. And I loved

0:23:07.880 --> 0:23:11.200
<v Speaker 2>this sequence with Madison because he gives a way too

0:23:11.320 --> 0:23:15.400
<v Speaker 2>much and she now knows that she has this incredible

0:23:15.480 --> 0:23:18.200
<v Speaker 2>leverage going forward that she keeps that south correctly.

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<v Speaker 1>So I love this take. Shiv listen. Has shev made

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<v Speaker 1>some mistakes? Did she ask for an open marriage on

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<v Speaker 1>the on her wedding night with Tom? Did she cheat

0:23:30.720 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>on her husband with her old flame Nate the campaign

0:23:36.000 --> 0:23:44.720
<v Speaker 1>manager of succession Bernie gil Evis. Did she convince a

0:23:44.760 --> 0:23:48.280
<v Speaker 1>sexual assault survivor to take the money and not press

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<v Speaker 1>her kes against waste star? Has she numerous times sold

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<v Speaker 1>out her so called ideals because you know, she is

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<v Speaker 1>involved in this family that is openly according a neo

0:23:58.720 --> 0:24:02.320
<v Speaker 1>fascist candidate. Yes, but she will not do cocaine in

0:24:02.359 --> 0:24:05.479
<v Speaker 1>the first trimester. And I think that that, among other things,

0:24:05.920 --> 0:24:10.080
<v Speaker 1>is something that we need to laud about that, Lord Hivroy,

0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:15.720
<v Speaker 1>thank you, And so shiv uh listen, Shiv is out here.

0:24:15.800 --> 0:24:19.240
<v Speaker 1>She's digging in the digging in the hedges, gaining intel

0:24:19.359 --> 0:24:24.639
<v Speaker 1>mattson his his vocal cords loosened by the Colombian White

0:24:24.720 --> 0:24:29.400
<v Speaker 1>marching Powder starts talking about Ebba Gojo, head of Calms,

0:24:31.640 --> 0:24:35.239
<v Speaker 1>saying that, you know, there was a weird thing with

0:24:35.320 --> 0:24:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Ebba where I was kind of in a relationship with her,

0:24:37.960 --> 0:24:40.600
<v Speaker 1>and then we broke it off kind and it was

0:24:40.880 --> 0:24:44.639
<v Speaker 1>obviously not a good breaking it off, and then I

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<v Speaker 1>started sending her vast quantities of my blood because it.

0:24:48.760 --> 0:24:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Was kind of a joke, but it was kind, and.

0:24:50.840 --> 0:24:52.600
<v Speaker 1>Then it wasn't a joke, and then it was serious,

0:24:52.600 --> 0:24:55.520
<v Speaker 1>and now it's not a joke, and this is obviously

0:24:55.600 --> 0:25:00.520
<v Speaker 1>highly damaging information. And at the end of which Shiv

0:25:01.000 --> 0:25:05.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of offers soft offers to consult with Mattson about

0:25:05.200 --> 0:25:08.120
<v Speaker 1>the goings on at Waste Star so that he can

0:25:08.200 --> 0:25:10.119
<v Speaker 1>kind of get the lay of the land. And he

0:25:10.160 --> 0:25:12.400
<v Speaker 1>says he likes her because she's cool and can take

0:25:12.440 --> 0:25:14.800
<v Speaker 1>a joke, which is a lot of red flags from

0:25:14.800 --> 0:25:17.840
<v Speaker 1>a guy who's been sending blood is a joke former

0:25:17.880 --> 0:25:20.480
<v Speaker 1>employee blood, Yes, I will also.

0:25:20.280 --> 0:25:22.920
<v Speaker 2>Say I this is another reason I was really loving Shiv.

0:25:23.000 --> 0:25:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Here she uses this as a moment to basically secure

0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:31.480
<v Speaker 2>Carolina's future in this because he's like, how's your head

0:25:31.520 --> 0:25:33.360
<v Speaker 2>of comms, He's like, I've been sending my blood. She's

0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:36.560
<v Speaker 2>a nightmare, and she's like, well, mine's great. She's so

0:25:36.600 --> 0:25:38.400
<v Speaker 2>good at her job. She knows exactly what she's doing.

0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:43.439
<v Speaker 2>And in that moment, Carolina's name supporting with solidarity. We

0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.879
<v Speaker 2>love supporting the victim of his stalking campaign. Of course

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.439
<v Speaker 2>she's stan fired, but she's supporting the stronger woman, her

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:54.520
<v Speaker 2>stronger friend, she says, the one she knows personally. And

0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:57.680
<v Speaker 2>I loved that because it is this great duality. I

0:25:57.720 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 2>should be just supporting and enabling this. Her abused it,

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<v Speaker 2>but she's like, my friend, she's actually.

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<v Speaker 1>Really moves here on market moves as allies. We support

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<v Speaker 1>powerful women, supporting powerful women over weaker women.

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.280
<v Speaker 2>Look, we support women's rights and women's wrongs. It's fun

0:26:15.280 --> 0:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>to see that. We like to say it.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken puts his plan into motion. He uses Greg for

0:26:23.720 --> 0:26:30.960
<v Speaker 1>this suddenly become moderately useful. Uh, and he basically says, hey, Greg,

0:26:31.200 --> 0:26:33.399
<v Speaker 1>I need you to talk to this reporter who's going

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<v Speaker 1>to call you and basically say that things are not

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<v Speaker 1>looking good. The Swedes are fucking weirdos, and the culture

0:26:39.320 --> 0:26:43.200
<v Speaker 1>is not a fit and YadA YadA YadA. Jess meanwhile,

0:26:43.520 --> 0:26:48.119
<v Speaker 1>is tasked with setting up a distraction for the Gojo Vikings,

0:26:48.119 --> 0:26:51.160
<v Speaker 1>and that is to set up a screening of the

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<v Speaker 1>full rough cut of the latest of Waste War Studios

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:58.440
<v Speaker 1>Summer blockbuster offerings, a sci fi tale about a robot

0:26:58.480 --> 0:27:01.800
<v Speaker 1>in a cave that runs It's something for three hours

0:27:01.920 --> 0:27:04.280
<v Speaker 1>and just make the Gojo people watch it.

0:27:05.040 --> 0:27:08.960
<v Speaker 2>And it is like, this is one of those legendarily

0:27:09.000 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 2>bad movies. You can just tell from the responses. Ever,

0:27:11.760 --> 0:27:15.680
<v Speaker 2>she breezes out, She's like, I'm gonna come back. It's intrigued.

0:27:16.280 --> 0:27:18.000
<v Speaker 1>There's so much, super much to think.

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<v Speaker 2>About, and this is a movie that is like, imagine,

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<v Speaker 2>I will talk about I will mention one of my

0:27:24.840 --> 0:27:29.320
<v Speaker 2>favorite Hollywood flops. Look it up. There's incredible reporting around it.

0:27:29.359 --> 0:27:31.879
<v Speaker 2>There was a movie named Monster Trucks. It was based

0:27:31.880 --> 0:27:34.400
<v Speaker 2>on the idea by a producer's three year old kid

0:27:34.400 --> 0:27:37.120
<v Speaker 2>about monster who lived inside of the monster truck. The

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:41.360
<v Speaker 2>movie bled millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. There are

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<v Speaker 2>legends that the first time they test screened it, the

0:27:45.400 --> 0:27:48.680
<v Speaker 2>monster they created was so horrific that kids ran out

0:27:48.720 --> 0:27:50.639
<v Speaker 2>of the cinema screaming.

0:27:50.200 --> 0:27:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Good, that's what we want.

0:27:51.359 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>Whatever, This is the way Star's version of that, this

0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.880
<v Speaker 2>is they're talking about millions. This is I would say

0:27:58.880 --> 0:28:01.240
<v Speaker 2>three hundred and fifty million and down the pan the

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.600
<v Speaker 2>budget is exploding. No one's gonna go and see it.

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:06.119
<v Speaker 2>It's boring. And this is what you show to the

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<v Speaker 2>people who are about to buy your company. They're trying

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<v Speaker 2>to tang smart tanky smart play.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Shiv is like, what's going on here? This is

0:28:13.720 --> 0:28:16.520
<v Speaker 1>are you guys up to my brothers? Are you up

0:28:16.560 --> 0:28:19.159
<v Speaker 1>to something? And they're like no, no, no, no no uh.

0:28:19.600 --> 0:28:23.240
<v Speaker 1>But also Shiv, sensing that there are things going on,

0:28:23.480 --> 0:28:26.040
<v Speaker 1>understanding that information is not be shared for her shared

0:28:26.080 --> 0:28:28.879
<v Speaker 1>with her, does not share the information about Ebba and

0:28:28.920 --> 0:28:33.560
<v Speaker 1>the blood haha. Meanwhile, she goes to meet Tom and

0:28:33.800 --> 0:28:36.000
<v Speaker 1>meets up with him like outside.

0:28:35.600 --> 0:28:39.040
<v Speaker 2>The movie screening tent, and she.

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<v Speaker 1>Says, Tom, your shoes are much too bright for people

0:28:42.520 --> 0:28:45.640
<v Speaker 1>who are coming down off of Molly. She starts kicking

0:28:45.680 --> 0:28:49.719
<v Speaker 1>dirt on his shoes. Incredible, and then so Tom flicks

0:28:49.720 --> 0:28:51.960
<v Speaker 1>her ear lob and says, you have thick lobes like

0:28:52.080 --> 0:28:57.360
<v Speaker 1>barnacle meat, and poof their passion is rekindled in that moment.

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie Prompt number four, you need to walk out of

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<v Speaker 1>a screening. What is the excuse that you use? You

0:29:07.360 --> 0:29:07.920
<v Speaker 1>are Ebba?

0:29:09.080 --> 0:29:13.880
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I must leave my FedEx guy. My FedEx guy

0:29:14.040 --> 0:29:16.200
<v Speaker 2>just showed up with a new delivery okay of blood.

0:29:16.960 --> 0:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I can't let it go called half the time to

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<v Speaker 2>the freezer. Very important.

0:29:21.360 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>I've just received very important blood and I must go.

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<v Speaker 1>I like that, okay for me. Let's see, I'm walking

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<v Speaker 1>out of the screening. David Zaslav is there. It'says, what

0:29:31.720 --> 0:29:35.800
<v Speaker 1>do you think of it? Are you leaving? And I say, yes,

0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:38.760
<v Speaker 1>I am leaving, but it's because I'm gonna take a

0:29:38.760 --> 0:29:41.400
<v Speaker 1>page from Emba's book here. But I'm gonna say because

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:44.320
<v Speaker 1>it's just so emotionally raw.

0:29:44.640 --> 0:29:46.160
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I really need.

0:29:45.960 --> 0:29:50.600
<v Speaker 1>To process this for I need to process it. I

0:29:50.600 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>need to go outside and maybe call my therapist. And

0:29:53.440 --> 0:29:55.920
<v Speaker 1>so much is coming up right now, and it's a lot.

0:29:56.000 --> 0:29:57.960
<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't share that with you, but I'm gonna tell

0:29:58.000 --> 0:30:00.000
<v Speaker 1>you that I need to talk to my therapist right now.

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 1>I have her on emergency speed dial whenever I need her.

0:30:04.320 --> 0:30:06.440
<v Speaker 1>And something about the way the robot sits in the

0:30:06.480 --> 0:30:08.600
<v Speaker 1>cave is just bringing up a lot of things for

0:30:08.720 --> 0:30:10.120
<v Speaker 1>me now, and I need to think about that. I

0:30:10.160 --> 0:30:13.360
<v Speaker 1>need to call her and then I'll be back, you know,

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:15.520
<v Speaker 1>sometime after the movie is over, to sit in the

0:30:15.520 --> 0:30:18.360
<v Speaker 1>empty theater. I'm going to come back when the movie

0:30:18.400 --> 0:30:22.920
<v Speaker 1>is over and sit in my seat, because that's how

0:30:22.960 --> 0:30:26.560
<v Speaker 1>powerful this movie is. Roman and can meet with Mattson.

0:30:27.440 --> 0:30:30.920
<v Speaker 1>And at the end of the day, what happens is

0:30:31.080 --> 0:30:34.960
<v Speaker 1>Roman finally snaps because of all the little subtle insults

0:30:34.960 --> 0:30:38.400
<v Speaker 1>and jibes and a little different pokings and proddings and

0:30:38.440 --> 0:30:40.760
<v Speaker 1>the little things that Lucas is doing. You know, he's

0:30:40.840 --> 0:30:44.120
<v Speaker 1>just playing the high hand with them, and he's clearly

0:30:44.160 --> 0:30:47.560
<v Speaker 1>doing this and kind of delighting in the fact that

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>he's got them, you know, days after their father's death,

0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.760
<v Speaker 1>and he loves this little power play he's running it. Finally,

0:30:55.400 --> 0:30:59.160
<v Speaker 1>Roman snaps and says like, well, fuck you. We're not

0:30:59.160 --> 0:31:02.160
<v Speaker 1>selling you the company and that's it. And by the way,

0:31:02.200 --> 0:31:04.560
<v Speaker 1>we think you killed dad. We think it's your fault

0:31:04.560 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 1>you let him dry because you were just like running

0:31:07.200 --> 0:31:11.800
<v Speaker 1>them ragged back and forth to Norway or wherever, Scandinavia

0:31:11.920 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>somewhere to think about the deal, do this, do that,

0:31:15.320 --> 0:31:17.719
<v Speaker 1>and you killed him and we're not selling it. You

0:31:17.760 --> 0:31:21.320
<v Speaker 1>go fuck off. Later on the plane back to the States,

0:31:21.640 --> 0:31:25.840
<v Speaker 1>it is a newsbreak comes across everybody's phone and Frank says,

0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 1>so either Frank or Carl says, hey, look at this

0:31:28.480 --> 0:31:35.760
<v Speaker 1>Mattson one nine two one two, and Matson effectively has

0:31:35.840 --> 0:31:39.600
<v Speaker 1>cornered the boys by making it public, not letting them

0:31:39.680 --> 0:31:43.560
<v Speaker 1>hide it from the board has gotten his revenge by saying, Haha,

0:31:43.600 --> 0:31:46.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to buy your dad's favorite toy for one

0:31:46.800 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 1>ninety two, and the board is going to make you

0:31:48.840 --> 0:31:51.600
<v Speaker 1>do it. Lucas Matson for the win. Your final thoughts

0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:52.840
<v Speaker 1>on this episode.

0:31:53.480 --> 0:31:56.239
<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm not trying to be a Mattson apologist. I

0:31:56.320 --> 0:31:59.400
<v Speaker 2>understand that I have condoned some pretty terrible behavior, but

0:31:59.440 --> 0:32:03.120
<v Speaker 2>this has been nature of talking about billionaires. I just

0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 2>want to say Madson isn't wrong. Logan Roy was a

0:32:06.120 --> 0:32:09.280
<v Speaker 2>prick and he was also a horrible say his kids,

0:32:09.720 --> 0:32:12.520
<v Speaker 2>he was he was abusive, he was an awful man.

0:32:12.880 --> 0:32:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Is it sensitive to say that just after he died?

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:15.160
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:32:15.320 --> 0:32:20.320
<v Speaker 2>But is it untrue? Also? No, I thought that Lucas

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:23.480
<v Speaker 2>came out as the winner here. Shiv has moved up

0:32:23.760 --> 0:32:26.160
<v Speaker 2>in the rankings. To me, if she wants to be

0:32:26.680 --> 0:32:30.240
<v Speaker 2>a betrayer, if she wants to go against her brothers

0:32:30.240 --> 0:32:32.920
<v Speaker 2>who have already cut her out, she could end up

0:32:32.920 --> 0:32:37.240
<v Speaker 2>in a very horrific but powerful position here agree a

0:32:37.400 --> 0:32:41.200
<v Speaker 2>Madson ally and potential I don't know. A Matis and

0:32:41.280 --> 0:32:43.720
<v Speaker 2>Shive wedding would be so horrific. I don't even know

0:32:43.760 --> 0:32:45.640
<v Speaker 2>if I could deal with it. But I feel like

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Shiv has become the power player at the end of

0:32:49.800 --> 0:32:52.240
<v Speaker 2>episode five. Now that will all change with episode six,

0:32:52.320 --> 0:32:55.120
<v Speaker 2>but were right here. I think Shiver and Madison come

0:32:55.160 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 2>out on top after the trip to Norway up.

0:32:58.240 --> 0:33:13.480
<v Speaker 1>Next episode six, Episode six Living plus. So the operation

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:16.720
<v Speaker 1>tank the deal obviously got more complicated when Lucas Matson

0:33:16.760 --> 0:33:20.600
<v Speaker 1>whipped out his hundred and ninety two valuation yard stick,

0:33:20.760 --> 0:33:23.520
<v Speaker 1>but that doesn't mean the boys are just gonna quit

0:33:23.600 --> 0:33:27.520
<v Speaker 1>trying to tank it. The latest plan and get this,

0:33:27.520 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 1>this is the latest scheme and I think it's crazy,

0:33:30.240 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 1>but it just might work. Boost the value of waste

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Star past one ninety two because the thought is that

0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:42.840
<v Speaker 1>Lucas Matson doesn't have any You can squeeze that orange,

0:33:43.000 --> 0:33:46.240
<v Speaker 1>but once one ninety two comes out, that's it. The

0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:48.520
<v Speaker 1>orange has gone Dray The do nothing past one ninety

0:33:48.560 --> 0:33:51.120
<v Speaker 1>two so if they can boost the valuation of the

0:33:51.160 --> 0:33:53.960
<v Speaker 1>company past one ninety two, that's it. The deal is

0:33:54.000 --> 0:33:57.240
<v Speaker 1>off and they will keep it. How will they do

0:33:57.320 --> 0:34:01.720
<v Speaker 1>this Living Plus? What is leaving plus? You ask? Imagine

0:34:02.280 --> 0:34:06.479
<v Speaker 1>a cruise ship but on dry land with like uh

0:34:07.520 --> 0:34:14.560
<v Speaker 1>a live forever medical stuff involved in it, hew, vampire blood,

0:34:15.160 --> 0:34:19.160
<v Speaker 1>h you know, baby DNA something. You will be in

0:34:19.200 --> 0:34:21.560
<v Speaker 1>a cruise ship, but you'll be on dry land with

0:34:21.760 --> 0:34:24.040
<v Speaker 1>security guards watching your every move.

0:34:24.680 --> 0:34:29.560
<v Speaker 2>Will be giving you infusion. It does, that's right.

0:34:29.560 --> 0:34:34.920
<v Speaker 1>They'll be IP characters running up and down, and meanwhile

0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:39.040
<v Speaker 1>you'll be given the latest in life prolonging drugs. Okay,

0:34:39.400 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>Ken is hoping that Living Plus it will be like

0:34:43.920 --> 0:34:47.080
<v Speaker 1>tech meets real estate, and it'll be the stock viagra

0:34:47.560 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 1>that'll that'll get it up past one nine. Matson's flirtation

0:34:52.760 --> 0:34:55.799
<v Speaker 1>slash counter intelligence scam with Shiv continues that I love

0:34:55.840 --> 0:34:58.960
<v Speaker 1>to say private jets they met their Matson comes out

0:34:58.960 --> 0:35:01.160
<v Speaker 1>barefoot to Shive's private jets.

0:35:01.160 --> 0:35:03.320
<v Speaker 2>Also, I just want to say this was a huge

0:35:03.360 --> 0:35:05.919
<v Speaker 2>power play by ship here again, Bye bye bye ship.

0:35:06.000 --> 0:35:08.399
<v Speaker 2>At this point, because he turns up, they meet where

0:35:08.400 --> 0:35:11.160
<v Speaker 2>their planes are being refueled, so no one can see them,

0:35:11.200 --> 0:35:13.120
<v Speaker 2>and he says, oh, I landed, come and see me.

0:35:13.160 --> 0:35:15.239
<v Speaker 2>And she's like, nah, my plan's being refueled. I don't

0:35:15.239 --> 0:35:16.799
<v Speaker 2>need to leave it, and he has to go to

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:20.640
<v Speaker 2>Shiv's plane. She is playing him like a fiddle. He

0:35:20.760 --> 0:35:24.359
<v Speaker 2>needs her, but I'm enjoying how much she's making him

0:35:24.400 --> 0:35:24.960
<v Speaker 2>work for it.

0:35:25.920 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's why I I always have a fresh plane waiting.

0:35:29.520 --> 0:35:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to wait for the refuel I have

0:35:31.320 --> 0:35:35.399
<v Speaker 1>the fresh private jet waiting at the tarmac, and then

0:35:36.920 --> 0:35:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I have the I have this crane that kind of

0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:42.160
<v Speaker 1>like puts the plane that I'm in on the side,

0:35:42.160 --> 0:35:45.359
<v Speaker 1>and I fall out the door into the door of

0:35:45.400 --> 0:35:48.680
<v Speaker 1>the other plane onto a couch, and then the plane

0:35:48.719 --> 0:35:49.120
<v Speaker 1>takes off.

0:35:49.120 --> 0:35:50.720
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna say that I don't have to wait.

0:35:50.760 --> 0:35:53.399
<v Speaker 2>You cannot tell me that you would spend your time

0:35:53.440 --> 0:35:56.360
<v Speaker 2>walking down the stairs of the plane to a different plane.

0:35:56.480 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 1>It's good I stopped using my legs years ago.

0:35:59.680 --> 0:36:00.200
<v Speaker 2>When you.

0:36:03.320 --> 0:36:06.920
<v Speaker 1>Uh so Mattson hates living plus as he should and

0:36:07.040 --> 0:36:11.560
<v Speaker 1>also terrible. Yeah, it's not only a terrible idea. It's

0:36:11.640 --> 0:36:14.560
<v Speaker 1>like if you were buying a car, a used car,

0:36:15.040 --> 0:36:17.760
<v Speaker 1>and then the current owner of the car who's about

0:36:17.800 --> 0:36:21.400
<v Speaker 1>to sell you the car is like, Hey, also, I'm

0:36:22.000 --> 0:36:25.040
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna put the car into pimp my ride mode

0:36:25.080 --> 0:36:29.000
<v Speaker 1>and put five PlayStation consoles in the car before I

0:36:29.040 --> 0:36:29.759
<v Speaker 1>sell it to you.

0:36:29.880 --> 0:36:32.319
<v Speaker 2>And you have to pay for them.

0:36:32.600 --> 0:36:34.680
<v Speaker 1>That's my car, don't I haven't bought it yet.

0:36:34.680 --> 0:36:35.160
<v Speaker 2>But don't do that.

0:36:35.239 --> 0:36:37.640
<v Speaker 1>So he doesn't get it. So Mattson makes his pitch.

0:36:37.640 --> 0:36:40.040
<v Speaker 1>He's like, hey, kill this product launch because it's stupid.

0:36:40.440 --> 0:36:43.279
<v Speaker 1>And also, I need someone inside who's going to tell

0:36:43.280 --> 0:36:45.720
<v Speaker 1>me all the stuff that's going on, and that person

0:36:46.120 --> 0:36:48.920
<v Speaker 1>should be you. And Shiv plays coy, but she's thinking

0:36:49.040 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>about it, just thinking about it. A fifth prompt is

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:56.759
<v Speaker 1>Mattson serious or he is he going to betray Shiv

0:36:56.840 --> 0:37:01.359
<v Speaker 1>as well? Does thing really wanted hire her on as

0:37:01.400 --> 0:37:03.800
<v Speaker 1>his like head of whatever.

0:37:04.440 --> 0:37:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I think that Mattson has a short and intense attention

0:37:10.160 --> 0:37:15.200
<v Speaker 2>span like many sociopaths, and I think yes, I think

0:37:15.320 --> 0:37:19.080
<v Speaker 2>Shiv is very curious to him, and I think he

0:37:19.239 --> 0:37:23.640
<v Speaker 2>is interested in the way that she doesn't really bow

0:37:23.800 --> 0:37:26.640
<v Speaker 2>to him or have any real interest in the deal.

0:37:26.840 --> 0:37:29.399
<v Speaker 2>He obviously also thinks he can get something from her,

0:37:29.719 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 2>but I think for now he is committed to this bit,

0:37:34.320 --> 0:37:37.440
<v Speaker 2>whether it would outlast him getting what he wanted, or

0:37:37.960 --> 0:37:41.680
<v Speaker 2>them sleeping together, or Shiv joining or the merger. I

0:37:41.719 --> 0:37:44.640
<v Speaker 2>don't know, but I do believe in these moments he

0:37:44.760 --> 0:37:47.440
<v Speaker 2>sees her as an ally That's right.

0:37:48.160 --> 0:37:50.920
<v Speaker 1>I think that's right. Everyone on the waste side is

0:37:50.960 --> 0:37:56.880
<v Speaker 1>in LA for Yesterday Disney plus Day flu Kennan Roman

0:37:57.560 --> 0:38:01.400
<v Speaker 1>brief the execs, including the old Guard, on the latest

0:38:01.440 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 1>about the deal. Ken then kind of soft pitches do

0:38:07.680 --> 0:38:10.240
<v Speaker 1>we really want to do the deal? Do we really

0:38:10.320 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 1>want it? Like, isn't Mattson's kind of weird? And then

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.440
<v Speaker 1>Roman chimes in, He's like, yeah, he's like he's like confidentially,

0:38:16.600 --> 0:38:20.520
<v Speaker 1>you know, like obviously not for wider you know, wider spread.

0:38:20.560 --> 0:38:22.920
<v Speaker 1>This is just for this room cone of silences. Matts

0:38:22.920 --> 0:38:26.200
<v Speaker 1>and crazy. Is he mentally ill? He kind of went

0:38:26.480 --> 0:38:30.040
<v Speaker 1>like berserk on us when I blew up at him,

0:38:30.320 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>and you know, it's obviously like we're not medical professionals

0:38:33.400 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 1>and it's not for us to say. But maybe he's unwell,

0:38:36.640 --> 0:38:39.200
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, And then Jerry says, but okay, but

0:38:39.280 --> 0:38:42.560
<v Speaker 1>he's a genius. Everybody thinks he's a genius, and nobody

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:46.239
<v Speaker 1>minds when geniuses act weird. Look at Elon Musk or

0:38:46.239 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 1>any other person that people think are geniuses. They all

0:38:48.400 --> 0:38:50.560
<v Speaker 1>do weird shit and everybody's like, that's great because they're

0:38:51.880 --> 0:38:56.719
<v Speaker 1>fucking geniuses. And then Carl who's still sizing up you

0:38:56.760 --> 0:38:59.520
<v Speaker 1>know which Greek island he's gonna buy, like he's trying

0:38:59.520 --> 0:39:00.759
<v Speaker 1>on a pair of suede.

0:39:00.480 --> 0:39:02.840
<v Speaker 2>Shoes, basically flicking through the brochure.

0:39:03.200 --> 0:39:05.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's like, yeah, don't worry. This is a weirdo

0:39:05.520 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>who cares like I'm fucking ready to cash out big time.

0:39:11.000 --> 0:39:15.920
<v Speaker 1>Sixth prompt, Rosie, you need to kill a deal. Everybody

0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:19.560
<v Speaker 1>wants this deal. I want the deal, Vasillis wants the deal,

0:39:19.880 --> 0:39:23.200
<v Speaker 1>Chris wants the deal, Saul wants a deal. Delan wants

0:39:23.200 --> 0:39:28.520
<v Speaker 1>to deal. Everybody wants the fucking deal. You are involved

0:39:29.000 --> 0:39:33.239
<v Speaker 1>in the team that is forging the deal and you

0:39:33.280 --> 0:39:34.320
<v Speaker 1>want to kill it. How do you kill it?

0:39:34.360 --> 0:39:36.400
<v Speaker 2>Oh man, I'd be so bad at this. Let me

0:39:36.400 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 2>put my market moves hot. I would kill the deal

0:39:42.600 --> 0:39:46.600
<v Speaker 2>by saying, look, if if you guys, if we do

0:39:46.680 --> 0:39:49.080
<v Speaker 2>this deal, then the only way I'm gonna do it

0:39:49.120 --> 0:39:51.200
<v Speaker 2>is I'm going to take all the money and I

0:39:51.320 --> 0:39:52.880
<v Speaker 2>will be the one who does the deal. And no

0:39:52.880 --> 0:39:55.279
<v Speaker 2>one else will get any deal money, so the deal

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:56.600
<v Speaker 2>will be out of us. So we may as well

0:39:56.680 --> 0:39:58.080
<v Speaker 2>just not do the deal and then you guys don't

0:39:58.080 --> 0:40:00.239
<v Speaker 2>lose his money that you don't have it.

0:40:00.400 --> 0:40:03.399
<v Speaker 1>That's good. I think that could work. I could work

0:40:03.440 --> 0:40:05.799
<v Speaker 1>with a little with a little framing. Let me try it.

0:40:05.840 --> 0:40:08.799
<v Speaker 1>So you know, I'm sitting there in in X Ray

0:40:08.880 --> 0:40:13.160
<v Speaker 1>Vision headquarters over in Malibu, right on the beach. Oh yeah,

0:40:13.360 --> 0:40:15.239
<v Speaker 1>And we're sitting there in the boardroom and we're looking

0:40:15.239 --> 0:40:18.040
<v Speaker 1>out at the ocean, and Vasilli's is flipping through, uh,

0:40:18.200 --> 0:40:23.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, his his iPad Greek Island pages of Greek

0:40:23.200 --> 0:40:26.440
<v Speaker 1>islands where he's gonna start his cult. And Ryan is

0:40:26.440 --> 0:40:29.359
<v Speaker 1>thinking about buying the Knicks, and Chris and Sol are

0:40:29.360 --> 0:40:32.960
<v Speaker 1>going to open a movie studio. And I'm and I

0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:35.160
<v Speaker 1>need to tank this deal, this deal that's going to

0:40:35.239 --> 0:40:38.839
<v Speaker 1>make us all even more monstrously rich than we are.

0:40:38.880 --> 0:40:40.640
<v Speaker 1>And I'm going to look. I look at everybody in

0:40:40.640 --> 0:40:43.280
<v Speaker 1>the eye, and I say, and I sigh very heavily,

0:40:43.600 --> 0:40:45.160
<v Speaker 1>and I stand up, and I put both hands on

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:46.799
<v Speaker 1>the table, and I look down, and I look up

0:40:46.840 --> 0:40:48.600
<v Speaker 1>and I say, and I make eye contact with everyone

0:40:48.640 --> 0:40:57.560
<v Speaker 1>in the room, and I say, money isn't everything. It's

0:40:57.640 --> 0:41:03.319
<v Speaker 1>that literally it is. It isn't it's not physically if

0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you look at it from a physics perspective, science, money

0:41:09.280 --> 0:41:14.120
<v Speaker 1>is not actual everything, all of the matter in the universe.

0:41:14.320 --> 0:41:16.600
<v Speaker 1>So think about that, guys, and do we really want

0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:23.359
<v Speaker 1>to do this? Maybe not. I think it could work,

0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:30.640
<v Speaker 1>import I mean the shot silence tells me it's working. Shiv, meanwhile,

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>smells something rotten in Gothenburg, which I think is a

0:41:34.560 --> 0:41:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Swedish city. She can sense from this conversation and the

0:41:40.239 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 1>way that Ken and Roman are speaking that they maybe

0:41:43.440 --> 0:41:47.239
<v Speaker 1>don't want the deal and to tell, and it's really

0:41:47.239 --> 0:41:49.960
<v Speaker 1>smart to tell for her, is that they've all of

0:41:50.040 --> 0:41:55.560
<v Speaker 1>a sudden are bringing up that Mattson is craving, perhaps

0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:58.960
<v Speaker 1>mentally ill, and they didn't gossip about it with her

0:41:59.440 --> 0:42:01.759
<v Speaker 1>mean girls style, which is something that they would have

0:42:01.880 --> 0:42:06.600
<v Speaker 1>naturally done. So she presses and they admit that, yes,

0:42:06.600 --> 0:42:07.600
<v Speaker 1>they're trying to fuck the deal.

0:42:07.760 --> 0:42:10.200
<v Speaker 2>You're trying to the deal. They cannot lie to Shive

0:42:10.280 --> 0:42:14.520
<v Speaker 2>her power. Sorry, They're so sorry, and they can't believe

0:42:14.520 --> 0:42:15.960
<v Speaker 2>they didn't tell. I just want to say as well,

0:42:16.160 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Shive again. An incredibly powerful situation because Matson had mentioned

0:42:20.880 --> 0:42:23.280
<v Speaker 2>her on the plane like, oh, you know, your brother's

0:42:23.320 --> 0:42:26.160
<v Speaker 2>like lost it and like told me like go fuck myself,

0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.799
<v Speaker 2>and and she was like, sounds like it sounds fake

0:42:29.880 --> 0:42:32.560
<v Speaker 2>to me. And now she knows it's true because they're

0:42:32.600 --> 0:42:35.360
<v Speaker 2>trying to like reflect and pretend that that's what Mason

0:42:35.400 --> 0:42:38.319
<v Speaker 2>did to them. And yeah, and I mean, this was

0:42:38.360 --> 0:42:40.800
<v Speaker 2>such a great moment for Ship and such a pathetic

0:42:40.880 --> 0:42:43.240
<v Speaker 2>moment for Kendall and Roman because they just cannot even

0:42:43.719 --> 0:42:45.879
<v Speaker 2>commit to the bit like if you're gonna cut her out,

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:47.719
<v Speaker 2>cut her out. You did not need to tell her

0:42:47.719 --> 0:42:50.799
<v Speaker 2>this plan. It was a terrible idea, but they do it.

0:42:50.840 --> 0:42:53.319
<v Speaker 2>And then Roman he wants, he wants to hug, he

0:42:53.360 --> 0:42:54.240
<v Speaker 2>wants to feel better.

0:42:55.160 --> 0:43:02.520
<v Speaker 1>I will say this it it aid a troubling amount

0:43:02.600 --> 0:43:06.839
<v Speaker 1>of humanity from the brothers that they couldn't flat out

0:43:06.880 --> 0:43:10.200
<v Speaker 1>lid of their sister who they apparently love his face,

0:43:11.239 --> 0:43:12.479
<v Speaker 1>So that part of it, you.

0:43:12.360 --> 0:43:15.520
<v Speaker 2>Know, I like that you see in the selfning.

0:43:15.719 --> 0:43:20.600
<v Speaker 1>And now Shive the meeting, let's out, and Shiv has

0:43:21.480 --> 0:43:25.200
<v Speaker 1>a scheduled a conference room in which to weep if

0:43:25.239 --> 0:43:28.880
<v Speaker 1>she needs to, and now she needs to because this

0:43:29.040 --> 0:43:31.640
<v Speaker 1>is actually a brutal betrayal from her brothers that she

0:43:31.800 --> 0:43:35.000
<v Speaker 1>takes in stride in the room. She's like, oh, yeah,

0:43:35.080 --> 0:43:37.080
<v Speaker 1>no big deal. Okay, you want to kill it, and

0:43:37.120 --> 0:43:38.799
<v Speaker 1>you didn't tell me anything about it, and you've been

0:43:38.840 --> 0:43:42.200
<v Speaker 1>talking about killing it apparently for days and plotting and

0:43:42.280 --> 0:43:45.640
<v Speaker 1>scheming to kill it. And I'm supposedly I'm supposed to

0:43:45.640 --> 0:43:48.200
<v Speaker 1>get read into every decision, but you've kept this from me,

0:43:48.880 --> 0:43:52.440
<v Speaker 1>and uh. And she is actually very very emotional about it.

0:43:52.520 --> 0:43:55.240
<v Speaker 1>She needs to cry. But then Tom walks in because

0:43:55.280 --> 0:43:58.960
<v Speaker 1>he's just happened to blunder into that office place, and

0:43:59.000 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>he comforts her and they kiss. A reunion is bubbling shockingly.

0:44:03.480 --> 0:44:06.720
<v Speaker 1>Roman then has some business over at waste Our Studios

0:44:06.719 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>and he goes to meet the head of the film division,

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.600
<v Speaker 1>Joy Palmer, big time muckety muck film and we would

0:44:12.600 --> 0:44:13.560
<v Speaker 1>guess TV also.

0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:14.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:44:14.160 --> 0:44:18.080
<v Speaker 1>Wastear of course, as we've talked about, needs evaluation higher

0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:22.280
<v Speaker 1>than one ninety two. So Roman thinking, okay, well, hopefully

0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:25.680
<v Speaker 1>maybe maybe film can do that for us. Roman's idea is,

0:44:25.800 --> 0:44:29.080
<v Speaker 1>if I just like love bomb Joy Palmer with all

0:44:29.120 --> 0:44:32.200
<v Speaker 1>the money that she's ever wanted to make these robot

0:44:32.280 --> 0:44:36.120
<v Speaker 1>in a Cave features, maybe they can make a franchiseable

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:40.360
<v Speaker 1>hit that will pump pump pump up the valuation of

0:44:40.400 --> 0:44:42.959
<v Speaker 1>the company, and the and the Robot in a cave

0:44:43.160 --> 0:44:46.359
<v Speaker 1>cinematic universe will be launched and it'll be big, and

0:44:46.400 --> 0:44:49.000
<v Speaker 1>we could sell toys and we could sell blankets, and

0:44:49.040 --> 0:44:51.840
<v Speaker 1>we can have little kids going to our movies and

0:44:51.880 --> 0:44:54.600
<v Speaker 1>we launch a channel and all of that. Unfortunately, Joy

0:44:54.680 --> 0:44:57.600
<v Speaker 1>then broaches the touchy topic of ATM being hand in

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:01.080
<v Speaker 1>hand with fascist presidential candidate Menken and how the Hollywood

0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:06.000
<v Speaker 1>creative community is little bit uneasy.

0:45:06.200 --> 0:45:08.919
<v Speaker 2>She's wrong, it's a good parking, it's a very good point.

0:45:09.600 --> 0:45:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Feel a little bit weird about it, and there is

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:20.239
<v Speaker 1>still troublingly for Roman, it's still enough competition in the

0:45:20.280 --> 0:45:23.680
<v Speaker 1>space that they could theoretically decide not to work with we,

0:45:23.800 --> 0:45:25.720
<v Speaker 1>so they could take their robot in a cave features

0:45:25.800 --> 0:45:29.320
<v Speaker 1>somewhere else, and then what will we do? And Roman,

0:45:29.480 --> 0:45:33.480
<v Speaker 1>irritated at the sensation of any kind of like brief

0:45:33.920 --> 0:45:38.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of like gesture of criticism, fires Joy or something.

0:45:39.280 --> 0:45:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Yes, it's very he puts out there as kind of

0:45:42.680 --> 0:45:46.479
<v Speaker 2>a jokey threat, and then when she doesn't immediately start

0:45:46.560 --> 0:45:49.040
<v Speaker 2>kissing his ass, he kind of decides he's going to

0:45:49.080 --> 0:45:51.840
<v Speaker 2>commit to it, but it's also unclear whether it would

0:45:52.120 --> 0:45:55.080
<v Speaker 2>legally be something he could do in that way because

0:45:55.120 --> 0:45:56.840
<v Speaker 2>there are like ten other people he would have to

0:45:56.880 --> 0:46:00.520
<v Speaker 2>go through. But WHOA, it was really bad. Roman is

0:46:00.600 --> 0:46:02.440
<v Speaker 2>just not cut out for this. I love Roman, I

0:46:02.440 --> 0:46:04.320
<v Speaker 2>have a love of love for him. Terrible, awful person,

0:46:04.360 --> 0:46:05.960
<v Speaker 2>but in the context of the show, has like a

0:46:06.000 --> 0:46:08.239
<v Speaker 2>little bit more humanity than other people. But him and

0:46:08.280 --> 0:46:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Kendall are both going for the new title of Logan

0:46:11.160 --> 0:46:12.600
<v Speaker 2>roy and it is not good.

0:46:13.360 --> 0:46:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I think Shiv is doing as well. So that brings

0:46:15.520 --> 0:46:20.240
<v Speaker 1>us to our seventh prompt. Who is the most logan

0:46:21.239 --> 0:46:28.520
<v Speaker 1>of the children, Ken, Roman, Shiv or Connor. Who is

0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:32.760
<v Speaker 1>the most currently logan esque of the Logan spawn?

0:46:33.280 --> 0:46:36.920
<v Speaker 2>It's Shiv because Shiv interesting is the one who is

0:46:37.000 --> 0:46:42.759
<v Speaker 2>currently working with their competitor to betray them, something that

0:46:42.760 --> 0:46:47.680
<v Speaker 2>Logan has actively done in the past. She is not

0:46:48.120 --> 0:46:50.879
<v Speaker 2>giving them the information that they could use against him,

0:46:51.000 --> 0:46:55.360
<v Speaker 2>like the propensity for sharing and sending blood to ex girlfriends.

0:46:55.880 --> 0:47:01.400
<v Speaker 2>And also, when like you very kind and generously pointed out,

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:06.840
<v Speaker 2>Roman and Kendall were opening up to Shive and admitting

0:47:06.880 --> 0:47:11.120
<v Speaker 2>a wrongdoing, she did not do the same. She kept

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:15.400
<v Speaker 2>her options open. She is texting Lucas, she is calling Lucas,

0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:17.880
<v Speaker 2>she is keeping him up to date, and she is

0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:21.080
<v Speaker 2>doing it without a hair of anxiety or stress, like

0:47:21.160 --> 0:47:23.839
<v Speaker 2>this is just like every day for her. So I

0:47:23.880 --> 0:47:27.719
<v Speaker 2>do think while Kendall and Roman both think that they

0:47:27.760 --> 0:47:30.759
<v Speaker 2>are playing at being the best logan, I think it

0:47:30.800 --> 0:47:32.640
<v Speaker 2>is coming to Shive most naturally.

0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.360
<v Speaker 1>I agree. I think at this particular juncture in the story,

0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:41.200
<v Speaker 1>it is Shiv because she is she is moving quietly

0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:46.320
<v Speaker 1>but to build her power, as you so aptly noted. Meanwhile, Roman,

0:47:46.760 --> 0:47:50.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean this firing. He thinks it's something his dad

0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.239
<v Speaker 1>would have done. But his dad would have fired someone

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:55.960
<v Speaker 1>from a position of strength of weakness, which is clearly

0:47:56.000 --> 0:48:01.239
<v Speaker 1>what Roman just fired this person from a position to weakness. Meanwhile,

0:48:01.600 --> 0:48:06.319
<v Speaker 1>Ken is getting up for the Living Plus presentation, and

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.000
<v Speaker 1>he's working with the stage crew to get the stage

0:48:10.040 --> 0:48:14.600
<v Speaker 1>craft right. All he needs before the presentation, which is tomorrow,

0:48:14.960 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 1>is like a legitimate like a little house.

0:48:18.400 --> 0:48:22.160
<v Speaker 2>That will represent living pluses, living arrangements, you know, easy.

0:48:22.280 --> 0:48:25.480
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we can think about like maybe Spanish style if

0:48:25.520 --> 0:48:27.239
<v Speaker 1>you want to do that, or maybe those like really

0:48:27.239 --> 0:48:29.560
<v Speaker 1>cute kind of like European gables. And then it'd be

0:48:29.560 --> 0:48:31.160
<v Speaker 1>great if there was like a blue sky with like

0:48:31.200 --> 0:48:33.520
<v Speaker 1>clouds moving across it, and doesn't have to be like

0:48:33.640 --> 0:48:37.560
<v Speaker 1>full like Tony Stark, like you know, like Iron Man three,

0:48:38.360 --> 0:48:40.160
<v Speaker 1>like holographic presentation, but it could be.

0:48:40.480 --> 0:48:44.000
<v Speaker 2>But if it can be that you do it. You

0:48:44.040 --> 0:48:44.440
<v Speaker 2>can do it.

0:48:44.520 --> 0:48:47.960
<v Speaker 1>That's right. And and and he lays down a new

0:48:48.040 --> 0:48:51.520
<v Speaker 1>rule for those Hollywood folks working for him. He says,

0:48:51.640 --> 0:48:52.440
<v Speaker 1>you can't say no.

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:55.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he says, this is a fun new rule. Nobody

0:48:55.520 --> 0:48:59.040
<v Speaker 2>can say no, kind of that he is in on that,

0:48:59.160 --> 0:49:01.520
<v Speaker 2>and that he got say no, but I will, Okay,

0:49:01.520 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 2>So I need to ask you a question. This is

0:49:02.840 --> 0:49:07.040
<v Speaker 2>more of a serious question. Sure, how's Kendall doing? Because

0:49:07.080 --> 0:49:10.759
<v Speaker 2>he seems he seems like he may have either relapsed

0:49:11.280 --> 0:49:14.000
<v Speaker 2>or he's in a mania or both, because he comes

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.880
<v Speaker 2>to this twenty four hours before the presentation and starts

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:21.760
<v Speaker 2>making like Broadway play style demands that would take three months,

0:49:21.760 --> 0:49:26.000
<v Speaker 2>and he is excited about it and feels, honestly truly

0:49:26.120 --> 0:49:29.839
<v Speaker 2>feels like everyone else is excited as him, when he's

0:49:29.880 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>actually putting everyone out. He doesn't seem like he's doing great.

0:49:33.680 --> 0:49:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I and anyone else who watches the succession television program

0:49:38.440 --> 0:49:45.560
<v Speaker 1>on Max On Max No understands that there would be

0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 1>no amount of surprise it should Kin suddenly bobble a

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.800
<v Speaker 1>baggie of some white powder onto the like, and it

0:49:54.840 --> 0:49:58.120
<v Speaker 1>would not surprise anyone. I would not be surprised. In fact,

0:49:58.160 --> 0:50:02.719
<v Speaker 1>I would be It would surprise if he wasn't dabbling, right,

0:50:03.120 --> 0:50:07.160
<v Speaker 1>I would be surprised if he wasn't in, you know,

0:50:07.640 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 1>Scrooge mcducking into various vats of white drugs. Shive and

0:50:15.560 --> 0:50:18.920
<v Speaker 1>Tom's ongoing unie continues a pace with the investor de

0:50:19.080 --> 0:50:22.880
<v Speaker 1>Gala with a little game of bite, which apparently Shiv

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 1>has a game that she used to play which she

0:50:27.680 --> 0:50:31.840
<v Speaker 1>has never shared with her husband soon to be ex husband,

0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:36.640
<v Speaker 1>and the game goes, you bite each other's arms until

0:50:37.120 --> 0:50:40.959
<v Speaker 1>one of you can't take the pain anymore, and that's it. Later,

0:50:41.080 --> 0:50:45.279
<v Speaker 1>they go to Shiv's hotel room and Tom admits that

0:50:45.360 --> 0:50:49.400
<v Speaker 1>he betrayed her in season three basically for the money.

0:50:49.520 --> 0:50:52.719
<v Speaker 1>He never you know, Shiv, I love money. You know

0:50:52.800 --> 0:50:56.640
<v Speaker 1>that I love money. You never let me wet my

0:50:56.719 --> 0:50:59.640
<v Speaker 1>beak in the money, never let me in, and it

0:50:59.680 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>was always gonna be me between you and your dad.

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:05.200
<v Speaker 1>And I picked your dad because he's got a lot

0:51:05.200 --> 0:51:07.560
<v Speaker 1>of money and I can buy some nice watches, and

0:51:07.640 --> 0:51:09.239
<v Speaker 1>I thought that was the most experient way of the money.

0:51:09.239 --> 0:51:11.080
<v Speaker 1>And let's be honest about it, you wouldn't give a

0:51:11.080 --> 0:51:13.759
<v Speaker 1>shit about me if I didn't have nice watches. Nice

0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:17.719
<v Speaker 1>suits could take you to five star Michelin star restaurants.

0:51:18.239 --> 0:51:20.880
<v Speaker 1>You don't want to go to fucking olive garden. You

0:51:20.920 --> 0:51:22.239
<v Speaker 1>know you don't want to do that.

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:24.840
<v Speaker 2>You don't want to endless breadsticks, Yeah.

0:51:24.640 --> 0:51:26.800
<v Speaker 1>You don't care about that, and then they have sex.

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry reads Roman the Riot Act for firing Joy without

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<v Speaker 1>telling her, without telling anyone, just to the spur of

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<v Speaker 1>the moment, and apparently Joy has retained counsel, and good

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<v Speaker 1>for her.

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<v Speaker 2>She needs it and she's gonna get big payout.

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<v Speaker 1>And a huge payout, and honestly, like, is it not

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<v Speaker 1>for the best Joy Palmer to be like free of

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<v Speaker 1>this like terrible institution, which I but by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a little inside tip for all the listeners to

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<v Speaker 1>market moves by waste star Bye.

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<v Speaker 2>Bye, bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Roman says, I didn't fire her. I said that she

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<v Speaker 1>was fired to her, that's.

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<v Speaker 2>All classic classic Vermiment. Never met a consequence. He can

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<v Speaker 2>deny or.

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<v Speaker 1>What uh you know, Roman, who we all remember jacking

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<v Speaker 1>off against a window in season one. Anyway, uh now

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<v Speaker 1>know he's Roman is feeling once again that sensation of

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<v Speaker 1>criticism coming from a person, and he says, essentially to Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>hey remember that thing where you were fired, where I

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<v Speaker 1>fired you because Dad said to fire you and I

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<v Speaker 1>did it. I delivered that message. Well, what if you're

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<v Speaker 1>just fired all over again because something about cruises. You

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<v Speaker 1>did it poorly and you're fired. And then she says,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, be serious for a second. You are interim

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<v Speaker 1>co CEO. You're just minding the store here. You're subletting

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<v Speaker 1>and Jerry is not on the kill list. That's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm going to be working at Gojo and be working

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<v Speaker 1>very happily for multi billionaire Lucas Mathson and understand that

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<v Speaker 1>tech is the real shit. They're not like this old money,

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<v Speaker 1>out of fashion media money, kind of old people's stuff there,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're where the juice is there, where the money

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<v Speaker 1>is there, where the market is moving, and you just

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<v Speaker 1>you just should realize that and go with the money.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's like, well, maybe you're fired, maybe you're not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, and he walks out. He leaves in

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<v Speaker 1>a very vague place. He basically threatens to fire Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>but we don't know if she's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>And when he goes to teal Ken, he kind of

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<v Speaker 2>wants Ken to pull it back because obviously loves Jerry.

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<v Speaker 2>He's kind of like, you have to smooth that over.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe that was too much, and Ken's like, no, that

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<v Speaker 2>was BALLA, that's fucking great ball. You're just making moves,

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<v Speaker 2>You're doing it, and maybe these young tucks have the

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<v Speaker 2>rights and the way to make something out of this. No,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't, Kendall.

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<v Speaker 1>That's why I say bye bye, bye, bye bye bye.

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<v Speaker 1>Way start, and Ken says, you know, fuck it, drop

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<v Speaker 1>Jerry's head in the end zone. I love it, just

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<v Speaker 1>do you know, do the icky shuffle over her corpse?

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<v Speaker 1>And that brings us to our eighth prompt, Joy or Jerry,

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<v Speaker 1>who's fired or and who was merely told to them

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<v Speaker 1>that they were.

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<v Speaker 2>I think Joy is probably gonna keep that representation and

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<v Speaker 2>get a massive payout because why fights to work for Roman,

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<v Speaker 2>even if she's not really fired? Why are you going

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<v Speaker 2>to do that? Take your because she's becomes a million.

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<v Speaker 1>Because she passionately believes in that robot in the caves.

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<v Speaker 1>In the cave, it's personal, it's a personal story. It's

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<v Speaker 1>something from that speaks to her from her children, and

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<v Speaker 1>she really passionally believes in the robot in a cave

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<v Speaker 1>cinematic universe.

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<v Speaker 2>Well maybe maybe then she'll fight for her passions, but

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<v Speaker 2>I believe she'll probably take the golden parachute and begone. Uh, Jerry,

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<v Speaker 2>I do believe that Kendall really likes this firing, But

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<v Speaker 2>it do either of those children who by the way

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<v Speaker 2>you made you made a great note in our preparation

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<v Speaker 2>that is Shi's godmother. We lean hen that big succession

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<v Speaker 2>Cannon here. I think that is a great and important

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<v Speaker 2>note because Kendall and Roman might want to fire Jerry,

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<v Speaker 2>but Jerry really has this. I think she'll just keep

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<v Speaker 2>to showing up to work and getting paid. Like neither

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<v Speaker 2>of them knows how to do it. Child's not gonna

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<v Speaker 2>fire Jerry. How you do it? They don't really know.

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<v Speaker 2>They can say it's fired, and she's still chilling.

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<v Speaker 1>Like originally it's like walking into the into the cockpit

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<v Speaker 1>of the space shuttle and being like, well, what button fires.

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<v Speaker 2>Jerry exactly exactly, like or going into being like the

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<v Speaker 2>pilot's fired, and everyone on the pilots like, we need

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<v Speaker 2>to land the space show and you're like, okay, he's

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<v Speaker 2>fired after that, and everyone's like, yeah, sure, sure he's fired.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I don't believe we've seen the last of Jerry,

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<v Speaker 2>and especially since she is still chilling with the old

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<v Speaker 2>guard during what will surely become another legendary Kendall performance.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, the conversation that follows this with Carl, I think

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<v Speaker 1>will inform the status of Jerry Ken As we saw

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<v Speaker 1>with Logan's birthday Wrap, is a is a natural stage performer.

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<v Speaker 1>He just gets off on it. He is at home there,

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<v Speaker 1>and not even the fact that the clouds over the

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<v Speaker 1>cabin that he had built is just like missed, looks

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<v Speaker 1>like it's very bad, it looks terrible. Even that doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>really dampen his excitement to get up on the stage

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<v Speaker 1>for the first time since l to the OG. He

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<v Speaker 1>is somewhat shaken. However, when Roman fresh off this conversation

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<v Speaker 1>with Jerry and in which Jerry essentially says, hey, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to let this deal go through. What the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>And also, i will say, secretly being manipulated by shivin Matson,

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<v Speaker 2>because shit, Matson is saying please stop this, please stop this.

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<v Speaker 2>So Shiv's kind of spoot trying to spook him by

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<v Speaker 2>making him think it's going to go wrong and pointing

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<v Speaker 2>out that Kendall is clearly over hyped about this and

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<v Speaker 2>that the stage looks terrible. So basically Roman has everyone

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<v Speaker 2>in his AA saying stop this.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. So Roman says to Ken, you.

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<v Speaker 2>Know, is this a good idea? Do we want to

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<v Speaker 2>do this?

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers that you're gonna go up there with the

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<v Speaker 1>presentation that is, let's face it, it's mostly science fiction.

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<v Speaker 1>The numbers don't quite add up.

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<v Speaker 2>You have been fake in the numbers. You may may

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<v Speaker 2>or may not have ai fake dog Dad into pretending

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<v Speaker 2>the numbers were.

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<v Speaker 1>You did fit, You did do that, and is that, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forget the legal implications of lying directly to

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<v Speaker 1>our shareholders. Maybe we shouldn't do it. And Ken is

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit shaken by this and then has he

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<v Speaker 1>leaves that room. Carl, the CFO of Wastar Royco, steps

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<v Speaker 1>to him and is and is really tough with him.

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<v Speaker 1>He says, Listen, I've put up with a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>shit over the years from your dad, but I have

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<v Speaker 1>been a major executive at lots and lots of big,

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<v Speaker 1>big time companies, and I've been around the fucking block, buddy,

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<v Speaker 1>And if you try and fuck with this deal, I

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<v Speaker 1>will chop your fucking nuts off. Okay, he says, you

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<v Speaker 1>have my dick in your hand, but I've got yours

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<v Speaker 1>in mind, and fuck with the deal and I'll blow

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<v Speaker 1>up your spot. And that's it, and Carlson and that

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<v Speaker 1>and Carl walks away, and it's a wonderful power play

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<v Speaker 1>by Carl and you have to feel like, now there's

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<v Speaker 1>a moment here where Ken basically says, well, I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>CEO and you're the CFO. What if I find you?

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<v Speaker 1>Basically implying like, what if I fire you? And Carl

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<v Speaker 1>Uh says, and this is where this informs the Jerry conversation.

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<v Speaker 1>He basically says, when you gonna fucking fire the CFO

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<v Speaker 1>a few days after you take control of the company,

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<v Speaker 1>like two days after your dad died, in the midst

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<v Speaker 1>of an interim situation in which you are selling it

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<v Speaker 1>coming to somebody else? How's that going to play? Do that? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>Good luck? And I feel like the same thing would

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<v Speaker 1>happen exact General Counsel.

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<v Speaker 2>And the funniest thing about this as well is I

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<v Speaker 2>love I actually kind of love to see the kids

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<v Speaker 2>losing a little bit of that and a little bit

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<v Speaker 2>of control. It starts to seem like the rope is

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit greased and they're sliding down it. Because

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<v Speaker 2>the real truth is there is a major subplot in

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<v Speaker 2>this episode where Kendall is forcing the accountants to fake

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<v Speaker 2>numbers like this is not just a potential you know risk,

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<v Speaker 2>This could blow up in everyone's face, including Colin. Cal

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<v Speaker 2>wants that fucking island bro.

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<v Speaker 1>He wants that island man, get the hummus going get

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<v Speaker 1>the Spanic Coipeda going exactly democracy, the whole thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the fucking the Spartans, the Peloponnesian War, all the history,

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<v Speaker 1>all that shit. Fucking let's get it going. And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what he's gonna be doing, is studying the rich history

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<v Speaker 1>of the development of European democracy and the traditions of

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<v Speaker 1>democracy that have formed our beautiful American system. And he's

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be doing that, studying that with his brother in

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<v Speaker 1>law there on the island that he is going to

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<v Speaker 1>purchase all academic pursuits merely for the betterment of the mind, exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Ultimately mankind, because if his mind gets back everyone well,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, every ship will be lifting the things that

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<v Speaker 2>will happen on the Greek island to be named later

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<v Speaker 2>owned by Carl, and his brother in law will put

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<v Speaker 2>this down and buy stock in this. We was better

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<v Speaker 2>the human race, back said the human race.

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<v Speaker 1>Every problem that we face, war, injustice, in a quality

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<v Speaker 1>island paper straws, all of that will be solved on

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<v Speaker 1>some Greek islands that we don't know about right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken's presentation is what it may be. Cringe so hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I blew out a vertebrae in my neck.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it starts absolutely horrific to watch. My mom had

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<v Speaker 2>to leave hard. My mom is visiting and she had

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<v Speaker 2>to leave because the episode made us so uncomfortable. Not

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<v Speaker 2>fully forever. Just go for a walk.

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<v Speaker 1>He He opens by saying, big shoes, you know, saying

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<v Speaker 1>that you know, he's filling his father's shoes. He says,

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<v Speaker 1>he repeats the phrase big shoes at.

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<v Speaker 2>Least like nine times, and everyone is watching him like

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<v Speaker 2>this man is having Enovis breakdown, Like this is less

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<v Speaker 2>than the rap.

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<v Speaker 1>Then he says whose big shoes, and logan appears on

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<v Speaker 1>the screen computer well, you know, computer background, but like

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<v Speaker 1>assets taken from an earlier shoot hyping up Living Plus,

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<v Speaker 1>obviously taken before the absolutely tragic de mind Logan Roy

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<v Speaker 1>high in an airplane with his mistress and other executives.

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<v Speaker 1>He and and uh and aided. This presentation is by,

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<v Speaker 1>as we have noted, completely spurious fictional numbers. Bottom line

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<v Speaker 1>with the numbers and Logan Roy's CGI edited form say

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<v Speaker 1>that Living plus will double. That's right, you heard right,

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<v Speaker 1>you heard correctly. That's not earwax in your ears. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't have to take the AirPods out of your ears.

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<v Speaker 1>You heard right, was Star Roy COO's value will double

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<v Speaker 1>because of Living Plum.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody loves everybody loves it. But I just need to say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you're wondering what living plus is. Kendall essentially goes

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<v Speaker 2>on stage pictures this horrible kind of fabricated community where

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<v Speaker 2>there will be security guards, you can see Goofy, maybe

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<v Speaker 2>a director will walk past who made a sleeping sleeping robot.

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<v Speaker 2>And the big promise is that you will essentially live forever.

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<v Speaker 2>He promises people immortal life. We are getting into very

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<v Speaker 2>weird territory here. Now this is based on they legally

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<v Speaker 2>real There are real things like medication and they call

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<v Speaker 2>it life extension treatments. You know, you get blood infusions,

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<v Speaker 2>plasma transfusions. Thanks for the extremely rich. But Kendall essentially

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<v Speaker 2>comes out and promises people they can live on a

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<v Speaker 2>cruise ship for their whole life on land with a

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<v Speaker 2>security guard. They can meet Goofy, they can have blood

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<v Speaker 2>transfusions and live forever. And it is one of the

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<v Speaker 2>worst things you've ever seen. And of course, because succession

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<v Speaker 2>is horribly realistic, everybody fucking.

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<v Speaker 1>Loves everybody up. The stock is going crazy. People are

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<v Speaker 1>fucking going crazy. Jim Kramer over med money.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh he's saying bye bye bye bye bye bye bye.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going bye bye bye. He just like his butt.

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<v Speaker 1>His actual blew up.

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<v Speaker 2>They blew and.

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<v Speaker 1>Flew across the studio. Such was the excitement at the

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<v Speaker 1>at the announcement of Living Plus. You know who doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>like it is Lucas Madsin.

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<v Speaker 2>I was gonna tweets who tweets? Uh die?

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<v Speaker 1>I forget the actual phrase, but it is the German

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<v Speaker 1>phrase that was over the concentration camps that welcomed the

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<v Speaker 1>the sad victims of the concentration camps, and translated it

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<v Speaker 1>means something like work will set you free, York will

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<v Speaker 1>set you free. Basically, he is trying to say in

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<v Speaker 1>a joking way that these are concentration camps for rich

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<v Speaker 1>people who willingly go there, and not a great I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think that's a good I would.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, never do any tweets about the course in general,

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<v Speaker 2>like especially not a joke tweet where you put it

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<v Speaker 2>next to a character, a fictional character. Very horrific business.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to say this was a big turnaround because

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<v Speaker 2>Mattson he thought he was doing something here. Unfortunately for him.

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<v Speaker 2>Kendall dealt with it enough. He seizes the moment and

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<v Speaker 2>kind of he half makes a joke. He acts incredibly magnanimously.

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<v Speaker 2>He manages to end with a standing ovation thanks to

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<v Speaker 2>his you know, Jurassic Park style Richard Attenburgh, Bryan Cooks,

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<v Speaker 2>you know dad who's helping him there, and Mattison ends

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<v Speaker 2>up making himself look like a Nazi, which, lets be real,

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<v Speaker 2>he is meant to be an a right kind of

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<v Speaker 2>Nazi tech nightmare. He did. He did quote the Nazis

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<v Speaker 2>to be to be fair, so like he did just

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<v Speaker 2>he did, and it makes Madison look bad, and it

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<v Speaker 2>makes Kendall's stock value rise. He looks so high, and

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<v Speaker 2>everybody loves Kendall. He might get to that one ninety

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<v Speaker 2>two dollars per share with this performance, even Carl, who

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<v Speaker 2>was ready to literally castraight him. Carl is like, this

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<v Speaker 2>man's special.

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<v Speaker 1>I see it, he says. I know special when I

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<v Speaker 1>see it, because it's some of the Greek islands that

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<v Speaker 1>I'm looking at are very special. And I get the

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<v Speaker 1>same feeling when I look at Ken, I get that

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<v Speaker 1>same feeling.

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<v Speaker 2>I have to be honest, in that moment, I felt

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<v Speaker 2>like for the first time this season, I felt like

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<v Speaker 2>Karl's eyes moved away from the Greek Islands, and I

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<v Speaker 2>felt like I felt like he might in that moment

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<v Speaker 2>he was seeing he was getting sucked back into the

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<v Speaker 2>roy black hole, and I think he sort of was considering,

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<v Speaker 2>like what would it be like if he was like

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<v Speaker 2>this all the time and we really could mold him

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<v Speaker 2>into a new logan, like how much more money could

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<v Speaker 2>I earn? How much more capital could I gain? How

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<v Speaker 2>much further could I rise? Obviously betting on Kendall, who

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<v Speaker 2>is a literal murderer and has had many emotional problems

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<v Speaker 2>throughout this series. Not a good, bad manslaughterer. Oh sorry, sorry,

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<v Speaker 2>sorry manslaughter. I don't know what the laws working in

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<v Speaker 2>the in the UK England, but I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it's the same, but I would imagine it would be

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<v Speaker 2>like a manslaughter. I would say you murdered. The connotation

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<v Speaker 2>does come with an expectation of intent, but I would say,

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<v Speaker 2>if you kill a service welcome.

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<v Speaker 1>With your car, I do you think you could say

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<v Speaker 1>him casually that he murdered him?

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<v Speaker 2>But you're right on market moves. This is about education

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<v Speaker 2>and correct information. So if Ken did ever get held accountable,

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<v Speaker 2>which will never happen. He would be a manslaughterer.

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to be accurate. I'm not, that's right.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any kind of legal acumen. I am not.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't want to get much richer than him by

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<v Speaker 1>waist hover right, I am much richer than Clara Simons

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<v Speaker 1>me and I want to be accurate. It was probably

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<v Speaker 1>man's flam.

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<v Speaker 2>Probably man's law, and he has had many emotional ups

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<v Speaker 2>and downs. I don't think it's a good bet. But

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<v Speaker 2>I did see Carl. I felt like he got sucked

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<v Speaker 2>into the I'm putting success in inverted commis because it

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<v Speaker 2>was awful, but it did go well. Kendall's back on top,

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<v Speaker 2>and I hate to see.

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<v Speaker 1>Ken is on top, and he and and you can

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<v Speaker 1>see the worry on his siblings face and Roman's face,

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<v Speaker 1>on Shiv's face. They're thinking, God, has Ken is? Has

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<v Speaker 1>Ken strapped himself of the rocket ship to the top

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<v Speaker 1>of the mat? Has he actually done it? And Ken

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<v Speaker 1>is high off of this. He then re edits his

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<v Speaker 1>dad's video so that it and sends it to Roman

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<v Speaker 1>so that their late father again passed away forty eight

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<v Speaker 1>hours ago or something is saying to Roman, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a big announcement to make Roman. Roy has a micro

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<v Speaker 1>dick and he's never been right about anything, and Roman,

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<v Speaker 1>being an absolute like pain pig, watches the video again

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<v Speaker 1>and that again and again and again.

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<v Speaker 2>And then listens to it also actually and putant to

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<v Speaker 2>note here Greg is rising up the ladder of power

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<v Speaker 2>very quickly, because it was Greg who illegally edited the

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<v Speaker 2>deep fake style video of Logan Roy to say double

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<v Speaker 2>wastear Roy coast value, where before it said to raise

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<v Speaker 2>the value. And I feel like when it's unclear whether

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<v Speaker 2>Roman knew that Kendall was gonna do that, and I

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<v Speaker 2>feel like when he was listening to that edit, it

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<v Speaker 2>was kind of like playing in his mind what Kendall

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<v Speaker 2>had done, not just this cruel like masochistic thing. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 2>like Kendall said when he watched the original cut of

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<v Speaker 2>the video and his dad was insulting the kids, he said,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a Valentine's Day card. These kids actually love to

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<v Speaker 2>hear that hat. But I think Roman is feeling he's

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<v Speaker 2>already starting to have to plan his play of how

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<v Speaker 2>to get rid of Kendall or get back in the

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<v Speaker 2>good books, because he's basically forgotten. Now Kendall is the CEO.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no co CEO after Roman turned down being a

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<v Speaker 2>part of that speech.

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<v Speaker 1>How does Kin celebrate the highest moment of his professional career. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to do it in water. Water has been

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<v Speaker 1>such an important medium for Ken. It is, of course

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<v Speaker 1>where he did murder a guy in water. It is

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<v Speaker 1>where he tried to commit suicide in water in Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>and now it is where he baptizes himself at the

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<v Speaker 1>church of his own success, diving into the waves off

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<v Speaker 1>the coast of beautiful Malibu, emerging to stare into the

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<v Speaker 1>gray slate sky and think about what a fucking badass

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<v Speaker 1>he is, Which brings us to our final prompt of

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<v Speaker 1>this double sized. Much like the stock valuation of waste

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<v Speaker 1>oar Home double, this episode has gone double. The final

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<v Speaker 1>prompt who is the biggest threat to Ken? Ken is

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<v Speaker 1>at the mountain top right now, and you know what

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<v Speaker 1>that means. There's only one way to go, and that

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<v Speaker 1>is down. Who if anyone will bring him down? Will

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<v Speaker 1>it be Jerry, Carl and Frank the old Guard and

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<v Speaker 1>also Ray that guy. Will it be Shive in cohoots

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<v Speaker 1>with either Tom or Matson or both? Will it be

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<v Speaker 1>Matson alone, Will it be Roman alone? Who is going

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<v Speaker 1>to be the person who knocks Ken off of his perch.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm on the Shiv train today and I'm sticking with

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<v Speaker 2>it because Shiv has so much control over Matson that

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<v Speaker 2>in this episode, Shiv is the one who tells Mattson

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<v Speaker 2>do a tweet to fuck over Kendall. He does it,

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<v Speaker 2>that terrible tweet, and then Shiv calls him and says,

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<v Speaker 2>you need to don't that was a bad tweet, and

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<v Speaker 2>he deletes the tweet. So shared tweet, mad tweet, shad tweet,

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<v Speaker 2>bad tweet, the words of Ken. She has a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of power right now over a very irrational and edgy,

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<v Speaker 2>but very powerful man. I think those two are a

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<v Speaker 2>big threat. Even unintentionally. They could just really fuck things up.

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<v Speaker 2>If they put them heads together and actually actively try

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<v Speaker 2>and take Kendall down, he'd be in trouble. But there's

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<v Speaker 2>also just shenanigans that could occur between them that could

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<v Speaker 2>end up forcing Kendall into a bad place. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>my bad at the end of this I like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Pick two, and I think that these moments of vulnerability

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<v Speaker 1>that they're giving us with Shiv, the reveal of the pregnancy,

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<v Speaker 1>the tears, the kind of like deep emotional frustration and

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<v Speaker 1>pain and hurt, and the betrayals of her brothers that

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<v Speaker 1>she's having to keep under this placid mask. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that they're setting us up to feel the vengeance that

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<v Speaker 1>she is going to put into play. Now, is it

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<v Speaker 1>gonna go? As we think this is succession and they're

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<v Speaker 1>always subverting us. Yes, for instance, you know, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>just the fact that they give Ken a win here,

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<v Speaker 1>I know is a big subversion that we're so used to.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so used to Ken losing, from killing a guide

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<v Speaker 1>and trying to kill himself to saying to wrapping you.

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<v Speaker 1>We're so used to him getting kicked in the ass.

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<v Speaker 1>That is it was quite a shock and surprise to

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<v Speaker 1>see him win. And I feel as if even if

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<v Speaker 1>Shiv does quote unquote win, it will be a chalice

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of poison. Yes, I agree, And that

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<v Speaker 1>brings us to this edition of Market Moves. Can't wait

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<v Speaker 1>to talk to you next week about the upcoming episodes

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<v Speaker 1>of the Succession Program. We hope that you follow all

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<v Speaker 1>of our financial advice and succeed beyond your wildest dreams.

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<v Speaker 1>As the Socks will only go up is just a

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<v Speaker 1>word success, finance, bonds, crypto mutual funds going going up.

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<v Speaker 2>In today's not outway, you tell us what you love?

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<v Speaker 2>Am why oh a theory that you're excited to share.

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<v Speaker 2>David pitches us on Red Dead Redemption two and why

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<v Speaker 2>it should be the next video game adapted for TV.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't actually believe that hasn't happened yet. It's a

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<v Speaker 2>good idea they must be thinking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Hi, Jason and Rosie. My name is David, and I

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<v Speaker 4>want to talk to you guys about the Red Dead

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<v Speaker 4>Redemption universe, which I think should be the next TV

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<v Speaker 4>adaptation of a video game. I've played Red Dead Redemption two.

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<v Speaker 4>I picked it up during the pandemic when I needed

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<v Speaker 4>to pass the time with a new game, and I

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<v Speaker 4>feel like it's the best single player storyline I've ever played.

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<v Speaker 4>It's a huge, open world game with hours upon hours

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<v Speaker 4>of different main quests and side quests, and what really

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<v Speaker 4>makes Red Dead Redemption two special is the storyline and

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<v Speaker 4>the character development of not just the main character, Arthur,

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<v Speaker 4>but the various different side characters you get to play

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<v Speaker 4>along with. Especially I think Sadie Adler's is the best

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<v Speaker 4>character development in the game. Essentially, what you get to

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<v Speaker 4>do is you play as this member of the Vanderlin Gang, Arthur,

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<v Speaker 4>and you're traveling through a world which is leaving the

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<v Speaker 4>Wild West behind as America moves into the twentieth century,

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<v Speaker 4>and your character starts to question his loyalty to the gang,

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<v Speaker 4>his loyalty to his leader Dutch, and I don't want

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<v Speaker 4>to spoil too much, but you just get to really

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<v Speaker 4>see these characters grow change their mindset about the world

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<v Speaker 4>around them. And I think that with the many different

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<v Speaker 4>hours of gameplay and the character development, it really leads

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<v Speaker 4>itself to a TV adaptation that could span multiple seasons,

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<v Speaker 4>and then you could move into the story of Red

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<v Speaker 4>Dead Redemption one, which follows a different character that you

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<v Speaker 4>see grow in RDR two. So it's obviously my hope

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<v Speaker 4>and dream that you know, a TV company picks us

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<v Speaker 4>up and I get to share on the screen this

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<v Speaker 4>game and story that I love with people who don't

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<v Speaker 4>necessarily play video games all the time. So thanks for

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<v Speaker 4>your consideration of this Nerd out pitch and a shout

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<v Speaker 4>out to your sound guy Vasillis, who was a grad

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<v Speaker 4>school classmate of mine.

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<v Speaker 2>Cheers, Thanks David, If you have theories or passions you

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<v Speaker 2>want to share, hit us up at x ray at

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<v Speaker 2>cricket dot com. Instructions are in the show notes. As always,

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<v Speaker 2>that's it for us, Rosie any plugs. Yes, it is

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<v Speaker 2>Free Comic Book Day. This is a plug for you guys.

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<v Speaker 2>On May sixth, Free Comic Book Day will be hitting

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<v Speaker 2>will be doing a signing. If you are in the

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<v Speaker 2>LA area, you can come to Jeffrey's Comics, which is

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<v Speaker 2>a really brilliant local comic shop that I love me

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<v Speaker 2>and a bunch of my buds you've worked on Godzilla

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<v Speaker 2>will be there along with a load of other cool

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<v Speaker 2>local artists. You'll be able to grab some free comics,

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<v Speaker 2>get some stuff signed, buy some rad graphic novels, support

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<v Speaker 2>a local comic shop, Come and say hi to me.

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<v Speaker 2>It should be very fun.

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<v Speaker 1>and four time New York Times bestseller Chai Serrano. It

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<v Speaker 1>is a beautiful, wonderful single camera tail in the Michael

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<v Speaker 1>next episode of x ray Vision Friday, May fifth, in

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<v Speaker 1>which we will discuss the final installment of the Guardians

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<v Speaker 1>of the Galaxy trilogy, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three.

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<v Speaker 2>What a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a bit, It's a wild ride.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's one from Johnny Blass. Fantastic. Jason and Rosie are

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<v Speaker 1>very well researched and hilarious. Thank you love this podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Their love of comics has introduced me and throw me

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<v Speaker 1>my children to the wonderful world of comics. Thank you

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<v Speaker 1>so much for your commitment to excellence.

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<v Speaker 2>Thanks oh John, Thank you Johnny.

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production of the

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<v Speaker 1>show is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. The

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<v Speaker 1>show is executive produced by myself and Sandy or art Our.

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<v Speaker 1>Editing and sound designers by Vasillis Fatopoulos, Dilon Villanueva and

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<v Speaker 1>Handle social Media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for a theme music.

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<v Speaker 2>See you next time. Bye,