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Speaker 1: We're covering episode five and six of succession season four,
Speaker 1: and we're going to Norway. In episode five, we open
Speaker 1: with the new co CEO structure in place. Interim boy kings,
Speaker 1: Ken and Roman begin making their marks at waste Our
Speaker 1: HQ that means walking in getting applause from everyone. The
Speaker 1: c suite boy ours get whipped into line and they're
Speaker 1: getting ready for their journey to Norway to grease the
Speaker 1: birth canal of the Gojo deal. Lucas Matson requesting the
Speaker 1: presence of all the players large and small, not just
Speaker 1: the roy family, but all the kind of upper level
Speaker 1: executives that they might want to keep or might want
Speaker 1: a fire, as the case may be. And the timing,
Speaker 1: of course, isn't great, what with Logan recently dropping dead
Speaker 1: on an airplane Rosie remember that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and Ken and Roman have literally been in power
Speaker 2: for twenty four hours.
Speaker 1: Give ord Tank.
Speaker 2: It's bad timing and this is an obvious power play
Speaker 2: from Matson, who is just doing the most this episode.
Speaker 1: The grieving pro pross is still ongoing with the roy children,
Speaker 1: but Lucas Madson doesn't care about any of that, and
Speaker 1: Ken says, okay, well, let's just do it. Let's go
Speaker 1: over there and bleed the suite on the plane over.
Speaker 1: Ken and Roman do the absolute least they can do
Speaker 1: to make make Shim feel like she's part of this,
Speaker 1: as they had kind of agreed upon soft agreed upon
Speaker 1: earlier that they were all everything's gonna come across your table,
Speaker 1: as Shiv, you're gonna be involved in No, and they
Speaker 1: are really not even trying to make her feel like
Speaker 1: she's part of it.
Speaker 2: This is a mistake that they will soon come to regret.
Speaker 2: I feel as we look upon the fortunes of the
Speaker 2: future Wastear Royco Company and it is just so hilarious
Speaker 2: and bleak. How quickly they went back on that word.
Speaker 2: This was literally yesterday.
Speaker 4: And.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, we said going to and guess what
Speaker 2: they're doing it. They cut her out to them.
Speaker 1: To the victor of the spoils, and you know, there's
Speaker 1: a piece of paper with Ken's name on it. And
Speaker 1: Shiv meanwhile, is concerned that there's all these stories and
Speaker 1: forubes and business inside her in Wall Street Journal at
Speaker 1: about Logan about what a shit show his late reign was,
Speaker 1: and she is like, what's going on with this? I
Speaker 1: thought we is this coming from us? I thought we
Speaker 1: agreed not to slander Dad as he is laid freshly
Speaker 1: in his grave. And Ken Roman are like, you know,
Speaker 1: we were crunching all these numbers here and we got
Speaker 1: to get ready for this deal. What are you the
Speaker 1: with Like, let's talk to Hugh Hugo. This is not
Speaker 1: coming from us, right, And he goes like, no.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you ever heard of this?
Speaker 1: And uh and so that's over with. And meanwhile, shiv
Speaker 1: Uh Ken and Roman say, if you want us to
Speaker 1: fire Tom in the most humiliating possible way, that off
Speaker 1: to you, dear sister, draw and quarter him, you know,
Speaker 1: hang him, not until dead, until he's merely unconscious. And
Speaker 1: then we go in and we cut open his abdomen
Speaker 1: and we pull his guts out in front of him.
Speaker 1: We put it on a fire and we burn from
Speaker 1: and then we cut him up into pieces and we
Speaker 1: put his head on the spike. We can do that
Speaker 1: if that's what you want. And she was like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Meanwhile, the old guard Frank Carl, Carolina
Speaker 1: Hugo and the other guy are pinching their sides to
Speaker 1: see which one of them is the fattest hog at
Speaker 1: the slaughterhouse. And as rumors of a kill list circulate.
Speaker 1: Jerry tells everyone, settle down, listen, I get it. We're
Speaker 1: going over there to meet the upper level GOJO people
Speaker 1: and they're all like ex Olympians and they yeah, they're
Speaker 1: like in their mid thirties and they're all like full
Speaker 1: bright scholars with PhDs. But they're all fucking soft because
Speaker 1: they had that socialist healthcare and they never had to
Speaker 1: worry about like going to the dentist. Meanwhile, we came
Speaker 1: up through the through the mean meat grinder of the
Speaker 1: American system, and we're fucking tough, and they put mayo
Speaker 1: in their fries and we eat blood red states. Don't
Speaker 1: worry about it. They're soft.
Speaker 2: First prompt, Rosie, what is that guy's name? Harry? I
Speaker 2: don't know, he's just that. Okay, you're going with Harry?
Speaker 2: I think. I think, what about Harry?
Speaker 1: I know what it is, and I'm just gonna say
Speaker 1: what it is, but I'm also going to say that
Speaker 1: I only know because I had to look it up.
Speaker 2: His name is Ray and Ray uh my.
Speaker 1: My most indelible memory of Ray is from the boor
Speaker 1: on the floor outing and I believe Romanian holiday. He
Speaker 1: shows up, I think wherever it was Tom said, sothing
Speaker 1: like spooky Dracula something, And he was the guy during
Speaker 1: boor on the floor who was like really really into it.
Speaker 2: He's like, yeah, I would you get that sot. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the Gojo confab happens at like this really gorgeous
Speaker 1: resort of some kind Norwegian kind.
Speaker 2: Of like I don't know. He seems to be very
Speaker 2: comfortable there.
Speaker 1: There's beautiful there's like a gondola going up to the
Speaker 1: top of this peak, and then all the buildings are
Speaker 1: like this glass and closed, like futuristic shit like that
Speaker 1: the billionaire would from X Macino would live in kind
Speaker 1: of now, as they're heading up in the gondola, the
Speaker 1: old guard, Carl in particular, is like, okay, Ken, do
Speaker 1: you want to go over the money one more time?
Speaker 1: And of course Carl has visions of of of Lesbos
Speaker 1: or some other Greek asle like dancing in his head,
Speaker 1: and and Ken is like, no, listen, I understand. One
Speaker 1: four is are absolutely can't go lower than this price,
Speaker 1: and we want to go higher than that, and we'd
Speaker 1: love one forty eight, but we'd settle for like one
Speaker 1: forty five. And when they say one forty five they mean.
Speaker 2: Billion billion, forty five billion dollar billion dollars.
Speaker 1: Uh and so, and Ken's like, I get it, so
Speaker 1: we'll get him. We'll get him about one to forty four. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Connor is back stateside and he's dealing with the fact
Speaker 1: that Marshall wants to wants to have Logan laying in
Speaker 1: his coffin in a kilt, which Connor thinks is weird
Speaker 1: despite the fact that Logan is from Scotland, was a
Speaker 1: Scottish man, a proud Scottish man, and a supporter of
Speaker 1: either Hibbs or Hearts And I'm not I forget do
Speaker 1: we know if Romans still oads that team Jack is
Speaker 1: co owner of either Hibbs or Hearts basically calls Ken saying,
Speaker 1: give me full authority to tell Marsha that we can't
Speaker 1: very pop in a kilt, and Ken is like whatever,
Speaker 1: he hangs up on.
Speaker 2: Him, and he also says, very blankly, He's like, send
Speaker 2: photos of your dad's inn bombed body, keep off.
Speaker 1: Uh. The boys initial meeting with Mattson begins with a
Speaker 1: really awkward like nod to the fact that Logan is
Speaker 1: freshly embombed, like not cold yet, and Madison wants to
Speaker 1: have a dead dad Dick measuring contest with Lucas saying
Speaker 1: at least you didn't find him in his BMW with
Speaker 1: the engine running, YadA YadA, YadA. And when this gets
Speaker 1: no reaction because it's a very very weird thing to say,
Speaker 1: like off like as a hello, he then goes, what, no,
Speaker 1: no sympathy for Lucas, no awe.
Speaker 5: For he is a true If you want already aware
Speaker 5: that Scott's God is playing Lucas Madison as an absolute sociopath,
Speaker 5: you will be aware by the end of this episode.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So they get down to brass coffin nails
Speaker 1: quite quickly. The boys, backed by the board want more
Speaker 1: money for wast Star for various reasons. They think it's undervalue.
Speaker 1: They you know, they want at In out of the deal.
Speaker 1: They want the price up. Lucas meanwhile, I was saying, well,
Speaker 1: if you want, if you're taking something out but the
Speaker 1: price is going up, how does that make sense. I'm
Speaker 1: getting less and I'm paying more. And he says, what
Speaker 1: about this. Put at In back in the bag and
Speaker 1: I'll buy it all for one eighty seven to fifty
Speaker 1: to fifty cash stock deal. Now, for those counting, that
Speaker 1: is a lot more than one forty four.
Speaker 2: That is the dollar price for the each share. That's
Speaker 2: why I just remembered because I looked it up. So
Speaker 2: it's one hundred and forty four dollars a share or
Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven dollars a shah. But it's
Speaker 2: still like a fuck ton more, but just a real.
Speaker 1: A fuck ton of money. And again that is that
Speaker 1: is the expertise that market moves brigs to the numbers
Speaker 1: and the context and the stocks and the bonds and
Speaker 1: the ethereum and the crypto.
Speaker 2: It is a lot more. Eight one hundred and eighty
Speaker 2: seven is more than one hundred and forty four.
Speaker 1: Did you know that second prompt, Rosie? What is your
Speaker 1: absolute basement amount of money to tell everyone to go
Speaker 1: fuck off and and you would never be seen again.
Speaker 1: You'd just be living your life writing Gudzilla comics for
Speaker 1: fun and doing whatever you want with your life. What
Speaker 1: is the absolute bare minimum amount of money that you
Speaker 1: would be like, I can quit everything and I will
Speaker 1: move to somewhere and I'll just do nothing.
Speaker 2: I am an extremely thrifty person, so it's probably a
Speaker 2: lot lower than anything else. But we're talking succession, so
Speaker 2: I'll put up yeah, if if I could, I would
Speaker 2: take you know, I'll go in those I believe in
Speaker 2: no such thing as a good billionaire. I'm not going there,
Speaker 2: but I could do that for ten mil. I could
Speaker 2: be gone. No one would ever see me again, no question.
Speaker 2: I put a million in a high interest the count
Speaker 2: because that's kind of thing with your market moves. I
Speaker 2: buy a little house and you never see me again.
Speaker 2: I have no social media.
Speaker 1: I'm done. I like it. The current as of March ninth,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, Biden Harris administration, a defense department budget
Speaker 1: is eight hundred and forty two billion dollars. Wow. I
Speaker 1: would need about a trillion dollars to really settle down
Speaker 1: because I got too many things on my mind. I
Speaker 1: too many, I got too many ideas. I can't settle
Speaker 1: down for anything less than it. I would go as
Speaker 1: low as maybe eight hundred billion.
Speaker 2: I like that. I go as low. You'll take what
Speaker 2: the general average military budget is.
Speaker 1: I think that's fair, right, I think that is fair.
Speaker 1: Ken and Roman, now kenan Roman should leap at this
Speaker 1: one eighty seven. Yeah, we want it. That's so much immediately,
Speaker 1: like incredible. Now, of course, do your due diligence. You see,
Speaker 1: if you can prod him any higher, if he says
Speaker 1: one eighty seven off rip, maybe he'd go a little higher.
Speaker 1: But this is immediately it's a win. You can go
Speaker 1: back to the board and the board would would be
Speaker 1: throwing flowers at you forever, that forever. But because kenan
Speaker 1: Roman in their hearts and their dark, shriveled, little tiny
Speaker 1: pee hearts, don't want to sell.
Speaker 2: They want the deal. I just don't want it. I
Speaker 2: just want to say I have believed ever since Kendall
Speaker 2: got the phone call from Matson where Madson was like,
Speaker 2: if your dad pushes for more money, I'm not doing
Speaker 2: the deal. I believe Kendall has planned to tank this
Speaker 2: deal since then, and now he is planning to tank
Speaker 2: it even more. And hilariously, these two are such fuck
Speaker 2: ups they can't even tank the deal.
Speaker 1: Well in there, in fairness to Ken, Madson did say, hey,
Speaker 1: if you raise the price at all, I'm fucking out,
Speaker 1: and then they asked they tried to raise the price,
Speaker 1: and Mason clearly was not out. It's true, if it's true,
Speaker 1: if if this was like pure a move, which it's not,
Speaker 1: because they want to take the deal.
Speaker 2: But it was a move move.
Speaker 1: So the boys want to tank the deal, and Matson,
Speaker 1: I think understands on some kind of instinctive level, like
Speaker 1: a hog, you know, digging for for a truffle, understands
Speaker 1: that he smells some sort of like emotional weakness, even
Speaker 1: if he doesn't quite understand that that it's that they
Speaker 1: want to tank the deal. He understands that there's an
Speaker 1: emotional connection to at and that was their dad's baby.
Speaker 1: Their dad Logan fucking loved ATN. He made that big
Speaker 1: speech at ATN. He was gonna fucking install himself as
Speaker 1: the cock of the walk back at ATN. He's the
Speaker 1: rebuilders that part. He loved ATN, and the boys want
Speaker 1: it for that reason because his dad's favorite favorite thing
Speaker 1: in the world. It's like a like his favorite watch.
Speaker 1: And so Matson just wants it to fuck them, that's
Speaker 1: all he He just wants ATN to say, fuck you guys,
Speaker 1: and fuck your dad. He's dead. Fuck you. So the
Speaker 1: boys now have to figure out how to not tell
Speaker 1: the board what's going on, because they would clearly put
Speaker 1: tremendous pressure on them to take the deal. For her part,
Speaker 1: Shiv is fine with losing NTAN it sucks. It is
Speaker 1: against kind of her politics sort of. It's openly allied
Speaker 1: with neo fascist candidate Jared Mankin, who is apparently like
Speaker 1: directing the editorial over there at atn now. And it's
Speaker 1: time to sell it for an incredible aut amount of
Speaker 1: money and just enjoy life. And the boys say, okay, yeah, totally,
Speaker 1: we'll look into that. Meanwhile, they're going to kill the deal.
Speaker 1: And as is going on, there are rumors of the
Speaker 1: Viking kill list circulating amongst everyone on the waist side.
Speaker 1: Third propt Who would you kill? Of? Who would you keep?
Speaker 1: Rosy Coe is acquiring not just Wastetar but also Gojo.
Speaker 1: You're acquiring both companies in a tremendous fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: cat Stark deal directly out of rosy cost pockets.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of money I should have already disappeared.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, who are.
Speaker 1: You retaining and who are you firing?
Speaker 2: I'm I'm absolutely retaining. I'm sorry. I don't care if
Speaker 2: she doesn't have the I'm putting this inverted Commas experience here,
Speaker 2: Shi is staying. I think she is the only one
Speaker 2: with any sense. She I'm also doing. I like what
Speaker 2: Shiv does here, as we will get into. I'm keeping Carolina.
Speaker 2: I'm keeping Jerry Carolina. I like yeah, I like that too,
Speaker 2: I'm keeping those three. I'm mad if I'm really doing it,
Speaker 2: I'm making one of those kind of deals where like
Speaker 2: I'm paying them so much money. I'm not having any
Speaker 2: Matt's in Roman, Kendall or gone, Like, go sit somewhere
Speaker 2: else with your money. Do not be here with your sociopathic,
Speaker 2: terrible business plans and awful scandalous I'm bringing in somebody
Speaker 2: completely new to run it. You're all out, but gallo
Speaker 2: of money, because that's the way this stuff goes.
Speaker 1: I like those picks. Here's who what I would keep.
Speaker 1: If I was acquiring a Gojo n Wat Star and
Speaker 1: really everybody in succession. If I'm buying the entire succession
Speaker 1: IP for a tremendous amount of money fifty to fifty
Speaker 1: cash stock deal, I would retain Willa and Listen Sand.
Speaker 2: Okay, Winning over Sand was a flop.
Speaker 1: Okay, the sand wasn't right, among many other things, and
Speaker 1: the acting and the writing were terrible. But in the
Speaker 1: creative process, there's no such thing as failure. You got
Speaker 1: to keep going like that. This was her first foray
Speaker 1: into into writing for the stage on a big in
Speaker 1: a big way, you know, the biggest on Broadway, the biggest.
Speaker 2: Way, and and it was a good first try.
Speaker 1: And I think that listen, as they say in the business,
Speaker 1: buy the dip. That was the dip that stock is,
Speaker 1: the will of stock is the lowest can get. I
Speaker 1: think it can only go up. I am buying Willa
Speaker 1: because I think those second and third and fourth projects
Speaker 1: are gonna be better than Sad. I'm keeping Jerry because
Speaker 1: I think she's the only one that's good at a job.
Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Frank because I just like that guy too.
Speaker 2: He's a good guy to having your corner, that's right.
Speaker 1: And I'm gonna keep Colin because somebody might try to
Speaker 1: throw on because I'm so so so rich after acquiring
Speaker 1: the succession ipe and you know, one of these pinko
Speaker 1: socialists might try to throw urine on me as I
Speaker 1: walk into the building.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to say, I think all your picks.
Speaker 2: If you are listening and you want to know who
Speaker 2: to buy on, I say buy on Willa because you
Speaker 2: know something that we learned today that has been kept
Speaker 2: fairly out of the press, and the narrative of this
Speaker 2: show and to the sidelines is the Royko Wata entertainment business.
Speaker 2: We are gonna wait somebody to oversee the storytelling. The
Speaker 2: movie we have going on, as we will get into,
Speaker 2: is not doing wow. We need vision. We need how
Speaker 2: to come in and tell my budget what to do.
Speaker 1: Ballon CG is not looking good. The robot spends too
Speaker 1: much time active.
Speaker 2: In the cave.
Speaker 1: We need to pump this up. We need a franchise, folks.
Speaker 1: We need a hit. We need a tent pole, and
Speaker 1: we need like the sequel, and we need the trilogy,
Speaker 1: and then we need the spin offs. And I think
Speaker 1: Willa is the person to do it. I freaking do
Speaker 1: it this, Listen. It's much easier, I think, to write
Speaker 1: for the summer movie blockbuster market than it is for
Speaker 1: Broadway with those snooty people. And I think you're right,
Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that. Kenon Roman counter they say,
Speaker 1: what's the okay? We take at and back out. What's
Speaker 1: the price for the deal? Mattson says, listen, why do
Speaker 1: you even want it? It fucking sucks. It's propaganda for
Speaker 1: angry elderly diabetics. Which is all true, but he just
Speaker 1: wants it, and he and he doesn't even want to
Speaker 1: say why he wants it because he's just buying it.
Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just gonna make it like Bloomberg. If
Speaker 2: you're gonna be simple, it's gonna be cheap, and it's
Speaker 2: gonna be great, and you guys can ask nothing about it.
Speaker 1: And then he shits on the Boys and Shive and says,
Speaker 1: basically like, listen, your dad was one thing, but you
Speaker 1: guys are just a tribute band.
Speaker 2: That's such a good insult that's up that would legendary
Speaker 2: succession insults.
Speaker 1: The boys and Shivs say, okay, we'll take it to
Speaker 1: the board, but of course the boys don't want to
Speaker 1: take it to the board, and that night, without ship,
Speaker 1: they decide to take the deal off.
Speaker 2: Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Kenda La Murta's chaotic motherfuckers,
Speaker 2: they say about they're like to their credit, they do
Speaker 2: talk about bringing Shiv in, and then Ken says, but
Speaker 2: do you think Pinky can dance?
Speaker 1: Do you think that she could do this song and
Speaker 1: dance required to tank the deal? And of course they
Speaker 1: don't think she can do it, so they cut her
Speaker 1: up fucking guys, These fucking guys while that's going on show.
Speaker 1: She's not a staying good She's not just like doing
Speaker 1: could see in the box that people want to put
Speaker 1: her in. She goes and meets one on one with Matton,
Speaker 1: who is blowing coke. Now, Shiv an expectant mother. No
Speaker 1: one knows this is offered coke. And if you'll notice,
Speaker 1: she just puts it in her hair. She pretends that
Speaker 1: she's gonna stort it, but she just puts it in
Speaker 1: her hand. And I think that's responsible, and that's the
Speaker 1: kind of thing you want to see.
Speaker 2: I'm telling you this episode. I've always been a Shiv fan. Okay,
Speaker 2: but she's got problems and they all have. You're being
Speaker 2: incredibly toxic romantic partner. But I am now rooting for Shiv,
Speaker 2: and I actually have I understand that people are taking
Speaker 2: her arc this season in two different ways. Some people
Speaker 2: see it as she's being pushed to the side or
Speaker 2: being put in a kind of fem fatale trope that
Speaker 2: doesn't suit her. I personally love to see Shiv taking
Speaker 2: on these idiotic men and using her kind of feminine
Speaker 2: wiles on that she is doing at least the tiniest
Speaker 2: amount of effort and they are absolutely failing for it,
Speaker 2: and she is gaining control over them. And I loved
Speaker 2: this sequence with Madison because he gives a way too
Speaker 2: much and she now knows that she has this incredible
Speaker 2: leverage going forward that she keeps that south correctly.
Speaker 1: So I love this take. Shiv listen. Has shev made
Speaker 1: some mistakes? Did she ask for an open marriage on
Speaker 1: the on her wedding night with Tom? Did she cheat
Speaker 1: on her husband with her old flame Nate the campaign
Speaker 1: manager of succession Bernie gil Evis. Did she convince a
Speaker 1: sexual assault survivor to take the money and not press
Speaker 1: her kes against waste star? Has she numerous times sold
Speaker 1: out her so called ideals because you know, she is
Speaker 1: involved in this family that is openly according a neo
Speaker 1: fascist candidate. Yes, but she will not do cocaine in
Speaker 1: the first trimester. And I think that that, among other things,
Speaker 1: is something that we need to laud about that, Lord Hivroy,
Speaker 1: thank you, And so shiv uh listen, Shiv is out here.
Speaker 1: She's digging in the digging in the hedges, gaining intel
Speaker 1: mattson his his vocal cords loosened by the Colombian White
Speaker 1: marching Powder starts talking about Ebba Gojo, head of Calms,
Speaker 1: saying that, you know, there was a weird thing with
Speaker 1: Ebba where I was kind of in a relationship with her,
Speaker 1: and then we broke it off kind and it was
Speaker 1: obviously not a good breaking it off, and then I
Speaker 1: started sending her vast quantities of my blood because it.
Speaker 2: Was kind of a joke, but it was kind, and.
Speaker 1: Then it wasn't a joke, and then it was serious,
Speaker 1: and now it's not a joke, and this is obviously
Speaker 1: highly damaging information. And at the end of which Shiv
Speaker 1: kind of offers soft offers to consult with Mattson about
Speaker 1: the goings on at Waste Star so that he can
Speaker 1: kind of get the lay of the land. And he
Speaker 1: says he likes her because she's cool and can take
Speaker 1: a joke, which is a lot of red flags from
Speaker 1: a guy who's been sending blood is a joke former
Speaker 1: employee blood, Yes, I will also.
Speaker 2: Say I this is another reason I was really loving Shiv.
Speaker 2: Here she uses this as a moment to basically secure
Speaker 2: Carolina's future in this because he's like, how's your head
Speaker 2: of comms, He's like, I've been sending my blood. She's
Speaker 2: a nightmare, and she's like, well, mine's great. She's so
Speaker 2: good at her job. She knows exactly what she's doing.
Speaker 2: And in that moment, Carolina's name supporting with solidarity. We
Speaker 2: love supporting the victim of his stalking campaign. Of course
Speaker 2: she's stan fired, but she's supporting the stronger woman, her
Speaker 2: stronger friend, she says, the one she knows personally. And
Speaker 2: I loved that because it is this great duality. I
Speaker 2: should be just supporting and enabling this. Her abused it,
Speaker 2: but she's like, my friend, she's actually.
Speaker 1: Really moves here on market moves as allies. We support
Speaker 1: powerful women, supporting powerful women over weaker women.
Speaker 2: Look, we support women's rights and women's wrongs. It's fun
Speaker 2: to see that. We like to say it.
Speaker 1: Ken puts his plan into motion. He uses Greg for
Speaker 1: this suddenly become moderately useful. Uh, and he basically says, hey, Greg,
Speaker 1: I need you to talk to this reporter who's going
Speaker 1: to call you and basically say that things are not
Speaker 1: looking good. The Swedes are fucking weirdos, and the culture
Speaker 1: is not a fit and YadA YadA YadA. Jess meanwhile,
Speaker 1: is tasked with setting up a distraction for the Gojo Vikings,
Speaker 1: and that is to set up a screening of the
Speaker 1: full rough cut of the latest of Waste War Studios
Speaker 1: Summer blockbuster offerings, a sci fi tale about a robot
Speaker 1: in a cave that runs It's something for three hours
Speaker 1: and just make the Gojo people watch it.
Speaker 2: And it is like, this is one of those legendarily
Speaker 2: bad movies. You can just tell from the responses. Ever,
Speaker 2: she breezes out, She's like, I'm gonna come back. It's intrigued.
Speaker 1: There's so much, super much to think.
Speaker 2: About, and this is a movie that is like, imagine,
Speaker 2: I will talk about I will mention one of my
Speaker 2: favorite Hollywood flops. Look it up. There's incredible reporting around it.
Speaker 2: There was a movie named Monster Trucks. It was based
Speaker 2: on the idea by a producer's three year old kid
Speaker 2: about monster who lived inside of the monster truck. The
Speaker 2: movie bled millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. There are
Speaker 2: legends that the first time they test screened it, the
Speaker 2: monster they created was so horrific that kids ran out
Speaker 2: of the cinema screaming.
Speaker 1: Good, that's what we want.
Speaker 2: Whatever, This is the way Star's version of that, this
Speaker 2: is they're talking about millions. This is I would say
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty million and down the pan the
Speaker 2: budget is exploding. No one's gonna go and see it.
Speaker 2: It's boring. And this is what you show to the
Speaker 2: people who are about to buy your company. They're trying
Speaker 2: to tang smart tanky smart play.
Speaker 1: Well, Shiv is like, what's going on here? This is
Speaker 1: are you guys up to my brothers? Are you up
Speaker 1: to something? And they're like no, no, no, no no uh.
Speaker 1: But also Shiv, sensing that there are things going on,
Speaker 1: understanding that information is not be shared for her shared
Speaker 1: with her, does not share the information about Ebba and
Speaker 1: the blood haha. Meanwhile, she goes to meet Tom and
Speaker 1: meets up with him like outside.
Speaker 2: The movie screening tent, and she.
Speaker 1: Says, Tom, your shoes are much too bright for people
Speaker 1: who are coming down off of Molly. She starts kicking
Speaker 1: dirt on his shoes. Incredible, and then so Tom flicks
Speaker 1: her ear lob and says, you have thick lobes like
Speaker 1: barnacle meat, and poof their passion is rekindled in that moment.
Speaker 1: Rosie Prompt number four, you need to walk out of
Speaker 1: a screening. What is the excuse that you use? You
Speaker 1: are Ebba?
Speaker 2: Oh, I must leave my FedEx guy. My FedEx guy
Speaker 2: just showed up with a new delivery okay of blood.
Speaker 2: I can't let it go called half the time to
Speaker 2: the freezer. Very important.
Speaker 1: I've just received very important blood and I must go.
Speaker 1: I like that, okay for me. Let's see, I'm walking
Speaker 1: out of the screening. David Zaslav is there. It'says, what
Speaker 1: do you think of it? Are you leaving? And I say, yes,
Speaker 1: I am leaving, but it's because I'm gonna take a
Speaker 1: page from Emba's book here. But I'm gonna say because
Speaker 1: it's just so emotionally raw.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I really need.
Speaker 1: To process this for I need to process it. I
Speaker 1: need to go outside and maybe call my therapist. And
Speaker 1: so much is coming up right now, and it's a lot.
Speaker 1: I shouldn't share that with you, but I'm gonna tell
Speaker 1: you that I need to talk to my therapist right now.
Speaker 1: I have her on emergency speed dial whenever I need her.
Speaker 1: And something about the way the robot sits in the
Speaker 1: cave is just bringing up a lot of things for
Speaker 1: me now, and I need to think about that. I
Speaker 1: need to call her and then I'll be back, you know,
Speaker 1: sometime after the movie is over, to sit in the
Speaker 1: empty theater. I'm going to come back when the movie
Speaker 1: is over and sit in my seat, because that's how
Speaker 1: powerful this movie is. Roman and can meet with Mattson.
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, what happens is
Speaker 1: Roman finally snaps because of all the little subtle insults
Speaker 1: and jibes and a little different pokings and proddings and
Speaker 1: the little things that Lucas is doing. You know, he's
Speaker 1: just playing the high hand with them, and he's clearly
Speaker 1: doing this and kind of delighting in the fact that
Speaker 1: he's got them, you know, days after their father's death,
Speaker 1: and he loves this little power play he's running it. Finally,
Speaker 1: Roman snaps and says like, well, fuck you. We're not
Speaker 1: selling you the company and that's it. And by the way,
Speaker 1: we think you killed dad. We think it's your fault
Speaker 1: you let him dry because you were just like running
Speaker 1: them ragged back and forth to Norway or wherever, Scandinavia
Speaker 1: somewhere to think about the deal, do this, do that,
Speaker 1: and you killed him and we're not selling it. You
Speaker 1: go fuck off. Later on the plane back to the States,
Speaker 1: it is a newsbreak comes across everybody's phone and Frank says,
Speaker 1: so either Frank or Carl says, hey, look at this
Speaker 1: Mattson one nine two one two, and Matson effectively has
Speaker 1: cornered the boys by making it public, not letting them
Speaker 1: hide it from the board has gotten his revenge by saying, Haha,
Speaker 1: I'm going to buy your dad's favorite toy for one
Speaker 1: ninety two, and the board is going to make you
Speaker 1: do it. Lucas Matson for the win. Your final thoughts
Speaker 1: on this episode.
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not trying to be a Mattson apologist. I
Speaker 2: understand that I have condoned some pretty terrible behavior, but
Speaker 2: this has been nature of talking about billionaires. I just
Speaker 2: want to say Madson isn't wrong. Logan Roy was a
Speaker 2: prick and he was also a horrible say his kids,
Speaker 2: he was he was abusive, he was an awful man.
Speaker 2: Is it sensitive to say that just after he died?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: But is it untrue? Also? No, I thought that Lucas
Speaker 2: came out as the winner here. Shiv has moved up
Speaker 2: in the rankings. To me, if she wants to be
Speaker 2: a betrayer, if she wants to go against her brothers
Speaker 2: who have already cut her out, she could end up
Speaker 2: in a very horrific but powerful position here agree a
Speaker 2: Madson ally and potential I don't know. A Matis and
Speaker 2: Shive wedding would be so horrific. I don't even know
Speaker 2: if I could deal with it. But I feel like
Speaker 2: Shiv has become the power player at the end of
Speaker 2: episode five. Now that will all change with episode six,
Speaker 2: but were right here. I think Shiver and Madison come
Speaker 2: out on top after the trip to Norway up.
Speaker 1: Next episode six, Episode six Living plus. So the operation
Speaker 1: tank the deal obviously got more complicated when Lucas Matson
Speaker 1: whipped out his hundred and ninety two valuation yard stick,
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean the boys are just gonna quit
Speaker 1: trying to tank it. The latest plan and get this,
Speaker 1: this is the latest scheme and I think it's crazy,
Speaker 1: but it just might work. Boost the value of waste
Speaker 1: Star past one ninety two because the thought is that
Speaker 1: Lucas Matson doesn't have any You can squeeze that orange,
Speaker 1: but once one ninety two comes out, that's it. The
Speaker 1: orange has gone Dray The do nothing past one ninety
Speaker 1: two so if they can boost the valuation of the
Speaker 1: company past one ninety two, that's it. The deal is
Speaker 1: off and they will keep it. How will they do
Speaker 1: this Living Plus? What is leaving plus? You ask? Imagine
Speaker 1: a cruise ship but on dry land with like uh
Speaker 1: a live forever medical stuff involved in it, hew, vampire blood,
Speaker 1: h you know, baby DNA something. You will be in
Speaker 1: a cruise ship, but you'll be on dry land with
Speaker 1: security guards watching your every move.
Speaker 2: Will be giving you infusion. It does, that's right.
Speaker 1: They'll be IP characters running up and down, and meanwhile
Speaker 1: you'll be given the latest in life prolonging drugs. Okay,
Speaker 1: Ken is hoping that Living Plus it will be like
Speaker 1: tech meets real estate, and it'll be the stock viagra
Speaker 1: that'll that'll get it up past one nine. Matson's flirtation
Speaker 1: slash counter intelligence scam with Shiv continues that I love
Speaker 1: to say private jets they met their Matson comes out
Speaker 1: barefoot to Shive's private jets.
Speaker 2: Also, I just want to say this was a huge
Speaker 2: power play by ship here again, Bye bye bye ship.
Speaker 2: At this point, because he turns up, they meet where
Speaker 2: their planes are being refueled, so no one can see them,
Speaker 2: and he says, oh, I landed, come and see me.
Speaker 2: And she's like, nah, my plan's being refueled. I don't
Speaker 2: need to leave it, and he has to go to
Speaker 2: Shiv's plane. She is playing him like a fiddle. He
Speaker 2: needs her, but I'm enjoying how much she's making him
Speaker 2: work for it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I I always have a fresh plane waiting.
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait for the refuel I have
Speaker 1: the fresh private jet waiting at the tarmac, and then
Speaker 1: I have the I have this crane that kind of
Speaker 1: like puts the plane that I'm in on the side,
Speaker 1: and I fall out the door into the door of
Speaker 1: the other plane onto a couch, and then the plane
Speaker 1: takes off.
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that I don't have to wait.
Speaker 2: You cannot tell me that you would spend your time
Speaker 2: walking down the stairs of the plane to a different plane.
Speaker 1: It's good I stopped using my legs years ago.
Speaker 2: When you.
Speaker 1: Uh so Mattson hates living plus as he should and
Speaker 1: also terrible. Yeah, it's not only a terrible idea. It's
Speaker 1: like if you were buying a car, a used car,
Speaker 1: and then the current owner of the car who's about
Speaker 1: to sell you the car is like, Hey, also, I'm
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the car into pimp my ride mode
Speaker 1: and put five PlayStation consoles in the car before I
Speaker 1: sell it to you.
Speaker 2: And you have to pay for them.
Speaker 1: That's my car, don't I haven't bought it yet.
Speaker 2: But don't do that.
Speaker 1: So he doesn't get it. So Mattson makes his pitch.
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, kill this product launch because it's stupid.
Speaker 1: And also, I need someone inside who's going to tell
Speaker 1: me all the stuff that's going on, and that person
Speaker 1: should be you. And Shiv plays coy, but she's thinking
Speaker 1: about it, just thinking about it. A fifth prompt is
Speaker 1: Mattson serious or he is he going to betray Shiv
Speaker 1: as well? Does thing really wanted hire her on as
Speaker 1: his like head of whatever.
Speaker 2: I think that Mattson has a short and intense attention
Speaker 2: span like many sociopaths, and I think yes, I think
Speaker 2: Shiv is very curious to him, and I think he
Speaker 2: is interested in the way that she doesn't really bow
Speaker 2: to him or have any real interest in the deal.
Speaker 2: He obviously also thinks he can get something from her,
Speaker 2: but I think for now he is committed to this bit,
Speaker 2: whether it would outlast him getting what he wanted, or
Speaker 2: them sleeping together, or Shiv joining or the merger. I
Speaker 2: don't know, but I do believe in these moments he
Speaker 2: sees her as an ally That's right.
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Everyone on the waste side is
Speaker 1: in LA for Yesterday Disney plus Day flu Kennan Roman
Speaker 1: brief the execs, including the old Guard, on the latest
Speaker 1: about the deal. Ken then kind of soft pitches do
Speaker 1: we really want to do the deal? Do we really
Speaker 1: want it? Like, isn't Mattson's kind of weird? And then
Speaker 1: Roman chimes in, He's like, yeah, he's like he's like confidentially,
Speaker 1: you know, like obviously not for wider you know, wider spread.
Speaker 1: This is just for this room cone of silences. Matts
Speaker 1: and crazy. Is he mentally ill? He kind of went
Speaker 1: like berserk on us when I blew up at him,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's obviously like we're not medical professionals
Speaker 1: and it's not for us to say. But maybe he's unwell,
Speaker 1: I don't know, And then Jerry says, but okay, but
Speaker 1: he's a genius. Everybody thinks he's a genius, and nobody
Speaker 1: minds when geniuses act weird. Look at Elon Musk or
Speaker 1: any other person that people think are geniuses. They all
Speaker 1: do weird shit and everybody's like, that's great because they're
Speaker 1: fucking geniuses. And then Carl who's still sizing up you
Speaker 1: know which Greek island he's gonna buy, like he's trying
Speaker 1: on a pair of suede.
Speaker 2: Shoes, basically flicking through the brochure.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like, yeah, don't worry. This is a weirdo
Speaker 1: who cares like I'm fucking ready to cash out big time.
Speaker 1: Sixth prompt, Rosie, you need to kill a deal. Everybody
Speaker 1: wants this deal. I want the deal, Vasillis wants the deal,
Speaker 1: Chris wants the deal, Saul wants a deal. Delan wants
Speaker 1: to deal. Everybody wants the fucking deal. You are involved
Speaker 1: in the team that is forging the deal and you
Speaker 1: want to kill it. How do you kill it?
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'd be so bad at this. Let me
Speaker 2: put my market moves hot. I would kill the deal
Speaker 2: by saying, look, if if you guys, if we do
Speaker 2: this deal, then the only way I'm gonna do it
Speaker 2: is I'm going to take all the money and I
Speaker 2: will be the one who does the deal. And no
Speaker 2: one else will get any deal money, so the deal
Speaker 2: will be out of us. So we may as well
Speaker 2: just not do the deal and then you guys don't
Speaker 2: lose his money that you don't have it.
Speaker 1: That's good. I think that could work. I could work
Speaker 1: with a little with a little framing. Let me try it.
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sitting there in in X Ray
Speaker 1: Vision headquarters over in Malibu, right on the beach. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: And we're sitting there in the boardroom and we're looking
Speaker 1: out at the ocean, and Vasilli's is flipping through, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, his his iPad Greek Island pages of Greek
Speaker 1: islands where he's gonna start his cult. And Ryan is
Speaker 1: thinking about buying the Knicks, and Chris and Sol are
Speaker 1: going to open a movie studio. And I'm and I
Speaker 1: need to tank this deal, this deal that's going to
Speaker 1: make us all even more monstrously rich than we are.
Speaker 1: And I'm going to look. I look at everybody in
Speaker 1: the eye, and I say, and I sigh very heavily,
Speaker 1: and I stand up, and I put both hands on
Speaker 1: the table, and I look down, and I look up
Speaker 1: and I say, and I make eye contact with everyone
Speaker 1: in the room, and I say, money isn't everything. It's
Speaker 1: that literally it is. It isn't it's not physically if
Speaker 1: you look at it from a physics perspective, science, money
Speaker 1: is not actual everything, all of the matter in the universe.
Speaker 1: So think about that, guys, and do we really want
Speaker 1: to do this? Maybe not. I think it could work,
Speaker 1: import I mean the shot silence tells me it's working. Shiv, meanwhile,
Speaker 1: smells something rotten in Gothenburg, which I think is a
Speaker 1: Swedish city. She can sense from this conversation and the
Speaker 1: way that Ken and Roman are speaking that they maybe
Speaker 1: don't want the deal and to tell, and it's really
Speaker 1: smart to tell for her, is that they've all of
Speaker 1: a sudden are bringing up that Mattson is craving, perhaps
Speaker 1: mentally ill, and they didn't gossip about it with her
Speaker 1: mean girls style, which is something that they would have
Speaker 1: naturally done. So she presses and they admit that, yes,
Speaker 1: they're trying to fuck the deal.
Speaker 2: You're trying to the deal. They cannot lie to Shive
Speaker 2: her power. Sorry, They're so sorry, and they can't believe
Speaker 2: they didn't tell. I just want to say as well,
Speaker 2: Shive again. An incredibly powerful situation because Matson had mentioned
Speaker 2: her on the plane like, oh, you know, your brother's
Speaker 2: like lost it and like told me like go fuck myself,
Speaker 2: and and she was like, sounds like it sounds fake
Speaker 2: to me. And now she knows it's true because they're
Speaker 2: trying to like reflect and pretend that that's what Mason
Speaker 2: did to them. And yeah, and I mean, this was
Speaker 2: such a great moment for Ship and such a pathetic
Speaker 2: moment for Kendall and Roman because they just cannot even
Speaker 2: commit to the bit like if you're gonna cut her out,
Speaker 2: cut her out. You did not need to tell her
Speaker 2: this plan. It was a terrible idea, but they do it.
Speaker 2: And then Roman he wants, he wants to hug, he
Speaker 2: wants to feel better.
Speaker 1: I will say this it it aid a troubling amount
Speaker 1: of humanity from the brothers that they couldn't flat out
Speaker 1: lid of their sister who they apparently love his face,
Speaker 1: So that part of it, you.
Speaker 2: Know, I like that you see in the selfning.
Speaker 1: And now Shive the meeting, let's out, and Shiv has
Speaker 1: a scheduled a conference room in which to weep if
Speaker 1: she needs to, and now she needs to because this
Speaker 1: is actually a brutal betrayal from her brothers that she
Speaker 1: takes in stride in the room. She's like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: no big deal. Okay, you want to kill it, and
Speaker 1: you didn't tell me anything about it, and you've been
Speaker 1: talking about killing it apparently for days and plotting and
Speaker 1: scheming to kill it. And I'm supposedly I'm supposed to
Speaker 1: get read into every decision, but you've kept this from me,
Speaker 1: and uh. And she is actually very very emotional about it.
Speaker 1: She needs to cry. But then Tom walks in because
Speaker 1: he's just happened to blunder into that office place, and
Speaker 1: he comforts her and they kiss. A reunion is bubbling shockingly.
Speaker 1: Roman then has some business over at waste Our Studios
Speaker 1: and he goes to meet the head of the film division,
Speaker 1: Joy Palmer, big time muckety muck film and we would
Speaker 1: guess TV also.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Wastear of course, as we've talked about, needs evaluation higher
Speaker 1: than one ninety two. So Roman thinking, okay, well, hopefully
Speaker 1: maybe maybe film can do that for us. Roman's idea is,
Speaker 1: if I just like love bomb Joy Palmer with all
Speaker 1: the money that she's ever wanted to make these robot
Speaker 1: in a Cave features, maybe they can make a franchiseable
Speaker 1: hit that will pump pump pump up the valuation of
Speaker 1: the company, and the and the Robot in a cave
Speaker 1: cinematic universe will be launched and it'll be big, and
Speaker 1: we could sell toys and we could sell blankets, and
Speaker 1: we can have little kids going to our movies and
Speaker 1: we launch a channel and all of that. Unfortunately, Joy
Speaker 1: then broaches the touchy topic of ATM being hand in
Speaker 1: hand with fascist presidential candidate Menken and how the Hollywood
Speaker 1: creative community is little bit uneasy.
Speaker 2: She's wrong, it's a good parking, it's a very good point.
Speaker 1: Feel a little bit weird about it, and there is
Speaker 1: still troublingly for Roman, it's still enough competition in the
Speaker 1: space that they could theoretically decide not to work with we,
Speaker 1: so they could take their robot in a cave features
Speaker 1: somewhere else, and then what will we do? And Roman,
Speaker 1: irritated at the sensation of any kind of like brief
Speaker 1: kind of like gesture of criticism, fires Joy or something.
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very he puts out there as kind of
Speaker 2: a jokey threat, and then when she doesn't immediately start
Speaker 2: kissing his ass, he kind of decides he's going to
Speaker 2: commit to it, but it's also unclear whether it would
Speaker 2: legally be something he could do in that way because
Speaker 2: there are like ten other people he would have to
Speaker 2: go through. But WHOA, it was really bad. Roman is
Speaker 2: just not cut out for this. I love Roman, I
Speaker 2: have a love of love for him. Terrible, awful person,
Speaker 2: but in the context of the show, has like a
Speaker 2: little bit more humanity than other people. But him and
Speaker 2: Kendall are both going for the new title of Logan
Speaker 2: roy and it is not good.
Speaker 1: I think Shiv is doing as well. So that brings
Speaker 1: us to our seventh prompt. Who is the most logan
Speaker 1: of the children, Ken, Roman, Shiv or Connor. Who is
Speaker 1: the most currently logan esque of the Logan spawn?
Speaker 2: It's Shiv because Shiv interesting is the one who is
Speaker 2: currently working with their competitor to betray them, something that
Speaker 2: Logan has actively done in the past. She is not
Speaker 2: giving them the information that they could use against him,
Speaker 2: like the propensity for sharing and sending blood to ex girlfriends.
Speaker 2: And also, when like you very kind and generously pointed out,
Speaker 2: Roman and Kendall were opening up to Shive and admitting
Speaker 2: a wrongdoing, she did not do the same. She kept
Speaker 2: her options open. She is texting Lucas, she is calling Lucas,
Speaker 2: she is keeping him up to date, and she is
Speaker 2: doing it without a hair of anxiety or stress, like
Speaker 2: this is just like every day for her. So I
Speaker 2: do think while Kendall and Roman both think that they
Speaker 2: are playing at being the best logan, I think it
Speaker 2: is coming to Shive most naturally.
Speaker 1: I agree. I think at this particular juncture in the story,
Speaker 1: it is Shiv because she is she is moving quietly
Speaker 1: but to build her power, as you so aptly noted. Meanwhile, Roman,
Speaker 1: I mean this firing. He thinks it's something his dad
Speaker 1: would have done. But his dad would have fired someone
Speaker 1: from a position of strength of weakness, which is clearly
Speaker 1: what Roman just fired this person from a position to weakness. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: Ken is getting up for the Living Plus presentation, and
Speaker 1: he's working with the stage crew to get the stage
Speaker 1: craft right. All he needs before the presentation, which is tomorrow,
Speaker 1: is like a legitimate like a little house.
Speaker 2: That will represent living pluses, living arrangements, you know, easy.
Speaker 1: Maybe we can think about like maybe Spanish style if
Speaker 1: you want to do that, or maybe those like really
Speaker 1: cute kind of like European gables. And then it'd be
Speaker 1: great if there was like a blue sky with like
Speaker 1: clouds moving across it, and doesn't have to be like
Speaker 1: full like Tony Stark, like you know, like Iron Man three,
Speaker 1: like holographic presentation, but it could be.
Speaker 2: But if it can be that you do it. You
Speaker 2: can do it.
Speaker 1: That's right. And and and he lays down a new
Speaker 1: rule for those Hollywood folks working for him. He says,
Speaker 1: you can't say no.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, this is a fun new rule. Nobody
Speaker 2: can say no, kind of that he is in on that,
Speaker 2: and that he got say no, but I will, Okay,
Speaker 2: So I need to ask you a question. This is
Speaker 2: more of a serious question. Sure, how's Kendall doing? Because
Speaker 2: he seems he seems like he may have either relapsed
Speaker 2: or he's in a mania or both, because he comes
Speaker 2: to this twenty four hours before the presentation and starts
Speaker 2: making like Broadway play style demands that would take three months,
Speaker 2: and he is excited about it and feels, honestly truly
Speaker 2: feels like everyone else is excited as him, when he's
Speaker 2: actually putting everyone out. He doesn't seem like he's doing great.
Speaker 1: I and anyone else who watches the succession television program
Speaker 1: on Max On Max No understands that there would be
Speaker 1: no amount of surprise it should Kin suddenly bobble a
Speaker 1: baggie of some white powder onto the like, and it
Speaker 1: would not surprise anyone. I would not be surprised. In fact,
Speaker 1: I would be It would surprise if he wasn't dabbling, right,
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if he wasn't in, you know,
Speaker 1: Scrooge mcducking into various vats of white drugs. Shive and
Speaker 1: Tom's ongoing unie continues a pace with the investor de
Speaker 1: Gala with a little game of bite, which apparently Shiv
Speaker 1: has a game that she used to play which she
Speaker 1: has never shared with her husband soon to be ex husband,
Speaker 1: and the game goes, you bite each other's arms until
Speaker 1: one of you can't take the pain anymore, and that's it. Later,
Speaker 1: they go to Shiv's hotel room and Tom admits that
Speaker 1: he betrayed her in season three basically for the money.
Speaker 1: He never you know, Shiv, I love money. You know
Speaker 1: that I love money. You never let me wet my
Speaker 1: beak in the money, never let me in, and it
Speaker 1: was always gonna be me between you and your dad.
Speaker 1: And I picked your dad because he's got a lot
Speaker 1: of money and I can buy some nice watches, and
Speaker 1: I thought that was the most experient way of the money.
Speaker 1: And let's be honest about it, you wouldn't give a
Speaker 1: shit about me if I didn't have nice watches. Nice
Speaker 1: suits could take you to five star Michelin star restaurants.
Speaker 1: You don't want to go to fucking olive garden. You
Speaker 1: know you don't want to do that.
Speaker 2: You don't want to endless breadsticks, Yeah.
Speaker 1: You don't care about that, and then they have sex.
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Speaker 1: Do it now.
Speaker 2: And we're back.
Speaker 1: Jerry reads Roman the Riot Act for firing Joy without
Speaker 1: telling her, without telling anyone, just to the spur of
Speaker 1: the moment, and apparently Joy has retained counsel, and good
Speaker 1: for her.
Speaker 2: She needs it and she's gonna get big payout.
Speaker 1: And a huge payout, and honestly, like, is it not
Speaker 1: for the best Joy Palmer to be like free of
Speaker 1: this like terrible institution, which I but by the way,
Speaker 1: here's a little inside tip for all the listeners to
Speaker 1: market moves by waste star Bye.
Speaker 2: Bye, bye bye.
Speaker 1: Roman says, I didn't fire her. I said that she
Speaker 1: was fired to her, that's.
Speaker 2: All classic classic Vermiment. Never met a consequence. He can
Speaker 2: deny or.
Speaker 1: What uh you know, Roman, who we all remember jacking
Speaker 1: off against a window in season one. Anyway, uh now
Speaker 1: know he's Roman is feeling once again that sensation of
Speaker 1: criticism coming from a person, and he says, essentially to Jerry,
Speaker 1: hey remember that thing where you were fired, where I
Speaker 1: fired you because Dad said to fire you and I
Speaker 1: did it. I delivered that message. Well, what if you're
Speaker 1: just fired all over again because something about cruises. You
Speaker 1: did it poorly and you're fired. And then she says,
Speaker 1: you know, be serious for a second. You are interim
Speaker 1: co CEO. You're just minding the store here. You're subletting
Speaker 1: and Jerry is not on the kill list. That's right.
Speaker 1: I'm going to be working at Gojo and be working
Speaker 1: very happily for multi billionaire Lucas Mathson and understand that
Speaker 1: tech is the real shit. They're not like this old money,
Speaker 1: out of fashion media money, kind of old people's stuff there,
Speaker 1: and they're where the juice is there, where the money
Speaker 1: is there, where the market is moving, and you just
Speaker 1: you just should realize that and go with the money.
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, maybe you're fired, maybe you're not.
Speaker 1: I don't know, and he walks out. He leaves in
Speaker 1: a very vague place. He basically threatens to fire Jerry,
Speaker 1: but we don't know if she's fine.
Speaker 2: And when he goes to teal Ken, he kind of
Speaker 2: wants Ken to pull it back because obviously loves Jerry.
Speaker 2: He's kind of like, you have to smooth that over.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was too much, and Ken's like, no, that
Speaker 2: was BALLA, that's fucking great ball. You're just making moves,
Speaker 2: You're doing it, and maybe these young tucks have the
Speaker 2: rights and the way to make something out of this. No,
Speaker 2: you don't, Kendall.
Speaker 1: That's why I say bye bye, bye, bye bye bye.
Speaker 1: Way start, and Ken says, you know, fuck it, drop
Speaker 1: Jerry's head in the end zone. I love it, just
Speaker 1: do you know, do the icky shuffle over her corpse?
Speaker 1: And that brings us to our eighth prompt, Joy or Jerry,
Speaker 1: who's fired or and who was merely told to them
Speaker 1: that they were.
Speaker 2: I think Joy is probably gonna keep that representation and
Speaker 2: get a massive payout because why fights to work for Roman,
Speaker 2: even if she's not really fired? Why are you going
Speaker 2: to do that? Take your because she's becomes a million.
Speaker 1: Because she passionately believes in that robot in the caves.
Speaker 1: In the cave, it's personal, it's a personal story. It's
Speaker 1: something from that speaks to her from her children, and
Speaker 1: she really passionally believes in the robot in a cave
Speaker 1: cinematic universe.
Speaker 2: Well maybe maybe then she'll fight for her passions, but
Speaker 2: I believe she'll probably take the golden parachute and begone. Uh, Jerry,
Speaker 2: I do believe that Kendall really likes this firing, But
Speaker 2: it do either of those children who by the way
Speaker 2: you made you made a great note in our preparation
Speaker 2: that is Shi's godmother. We lean hen that big succession
Speaker 2: Cannon here. I think that is a great and important
Speaker 2: note because Kendall and Roman might want to fire Jerry,
Speaker 2: but Jerry really has this. I think she'll just keep
Speaker 2: to showing up to work and getting paid. Like neither
Speaker 2: of them knows how to do it. Child's not gonna
Speaker 2: fire Jerry. How you do it? They don't really know.
Speaker 2: They can say it's fired, and she's still chilling.
Speaker 1: Like originally it's like walking into the into the cockpit
Speaker 1: of the space shuttle and being like, well, what button fires.
Speaker 2: Jerry exactly exactly, like or going into being like the
Speaker 2: pilot's fired, and everyone on the pilots like, we need
Speaker 2: to land the space show and you're like, okay, he's
Speaker 2: fired after that, and everyone's like, yeah, sure, sure he's fired.
Speaker 2: Like I don't believe we've seen the last of Jerry,
Speaker 2: and especially since she is still chilling with the old
Speaker 2: guard during what will surely become another legendary Kendall performance.
Speaker 1: Well, the conversation that follows this with Carl, I think
Speaker 1: will inform the status of Jerry Ken As we saw
Speaker 1: with Logan's birthday Wrap, is a is a natural stage performer.
Speaker 1: He just gets off on it. He is at home there,
Speaker 1: and not even the fact that the clouds over the
Speaker 1: cabin that he had built is just like missed, looks
Speaker 1: like it's very bad, it looks terrible. Even that doesn't
Speaker 1: really dampen his excitement to get up on the stage
Speaker 1: for the first time since l to the OG. He
Speaker 1: is somewhat shaken. However, when Roman fresh off this conversation
Speaker 1: with Jerry and in which Jerry essentially says, hey, you
Speaker 1: have to let this deal go through. What the fuck
Speaker 1: are you talking about?
Speaker 2: And also, i will say, secretly being manipulated by shivin Matson,
Speaker 2: because shit, Matson is saying please stop this, please stop this.
Speaker 2: So Shiv's kind of spoot trying to spook him by
Speaker 2: making him think it's going to go wrong and pointing
Speaker 2: out that Kendall is clearly over hyped about this and
Speaker 2: that the stage looks terrible. So basically Roman has everyone
Speaker 2: in his AA saying stop this.
Speaker 1: That's right. So Roman says to Ken, you.
Speaker 2: Know, is this a good idea? Do we want to
Speaker 2: do this?
Speaker 1: The numbers that you're gonna go up there with the
Speaker 1: presentation that is, let's face it, it's mostly science fiction.
Speaker 1: The numbers don't quite add up.
Speaker 2: You have been fake in the numbers. You may may
Speaker 2: or may not have ai fake dog Dad into pretending
Speaker 2: the numbers were.
Speaker 1: You did fit, You did do that, and is that, like,
Speaker 1: you know, forget the legal implications of lying directly to
Speaker 1: our shareholders. Maybe we shouldn't do it. And Ken is
Speaker 1: a little bit shaken by this and then has he
Speaker 1: leaves that room. Carl, the CFO of Wastar Royco, steps
Speaker 1: to him and is and is really tough with him.
Speaker 1: He says, Listen, I've put up with a lot of
Speaker 1: shit over the years from your dad, but I have
Speaker 1: been a major executive at lots and lots of big,
Speaker 1: big time companies, and I've been around the fucking block, buddy,
Speaker 1: And if you try and fuck with this deal, I
Speaker 1: will chop your fucking nuts off. Okay, he says, you
Speaker 1: have my dick in your hand, but I've got yours
Speaker 1: in mind, and fuck with the deal and I'll blow
Speaker 1: up your spot. And that's it, and Carlson and that
Speaker 1: and Carl walks away, and it's a wonderful power play
Speaker 1: by Carl and you have to feel like, now there's
Speaker 1: a moment here where Ken basically says, well, I'm the
Speaker 1: CEO and you're the CFO. What if I find you?
Speaker 1: Basically implying like, what if I fire you? And Carl
Speaker 1: Uh says, and this is where this informs the Jerry conversation.
Speaker 1: He basically says, when you gonna fucking fire the CFO
Speaker 1: a few days after you take control of the company,
Speaker 1: like two days after your dad died, in the midst
Speaker 1: of an interim situation in which you are selling it
Speaker 1: coming to somebody else? How's that going to play? Do that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Good luck? And I feel like the same thing would
Speaker 1: happen exact General Counsel.
Speaker 2: And the funniest thing about this as well is I
Speaker 2: love I actually kind of love to see the kids
Speaker 2: losing a little bit of that and a little bit
Speaker 2: of control. It starts to seem like the rope is
Speaker 2: a little bit greased and they're sliding down it. Because
Speaker 2: the real truth is there is a major subplot in
Speaker 2: this episode where Kendall is forcing the accountants to fake
Speaker 2: numbers like this is not just a potential you know risk,
Speaker 2: This could blow up in everyone's face, including Colin. Cal
Speaker 2: wants that fucking island bro.
Speaker 1: He wants that island man, get the hummus going get
Speaker 1: the Spanic Coipeda going exactly democracy, the whole thing, you know,
Speaker 1: the fucking the Spartans, the Peloponnesian War, all the history,
Speaker 1: all that shit. Fucking let's get it going. And that's
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be doing, is studying the rich history
Speaker 1: of the development of European democracy and the traditions of
Speaker 1: democracy that have formed our beautiful American system. And he's
Speaker 1: gonna be doing that, studying that with his brother in
Speaker 1: law there on the island that he is going to
Speaker 1: purchase all academic pursuits merely for the betterment of the mind, exactly.
Speaker 2: Ultimately mankind, because if his mind gets back everyone well,
Speaker 2: you know, every ship will be lifting the things that
Speaker 2: will happen on the Greek island to be named later
Speaker 2: owned by Carl, and his brother in law will put
Speaker 2: this down and buy stock in this. We was better
Speaker 2: the human race, back said the human race.
Speaker 1: Every problem that we face, war, injustice, in a quality
Speaker 1: island paper straws, all of that will be solved on
Speaker 1: some Greek islands that we don't know about right now.
Speaker 1: Ken's presentation is what it may be. Cringe so hard.
Speaker 1: I blew out a vertebrae in my neck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts absolutely horrific to watch. My mom had
Speaker 2: to leave hard. My mom is visiting and she had
Speaker 2: to leave because the episode made us so uncomfortable. Not
Speaker 2: fully forever. Just go for a walk.
Speaker 1: He He opens by saying, big shoes, you know, saying
Speaker 1: that you know, he's filling his father's shoes. He says,
Speaker 1: he repeats the phrase big shoes at.
Speaker 2: Least like nine times, and everyone is watching him like
Speaker 2: this man is having Enovis breakdown, Like this is less
Speaker 2: than the rap.
Speaker 1: Then he says whose big shoes, and logan appears on
Speaker 1: the screen computer well, you know, computer background, but like
Speaker 1: assets taken from an earlier shoot hyping up Living Plus,
Speaker 1: obviously taken before the absolutely tragic de mind Logan Roy
Speaker 1: high in an airplane with his mistress and other executives.
Speaker 1: He and and uh and aided. This presentation is by,
Speaker 1: as we have noted, completely spurious fictional numbers. Bottom line
Speaker 1: with the numbers and Logan Roy's CGI edited form say
Speaker 1: that Living plus will double. That's right, you heard right,
Speaker 1: you heard correctly. That's not earwax in your ears. You
Speaker 1: don't have to take the AirPods out of your ears.
Speaker 1: You heard right, was Star Roy COO's value will double
Speaker 1: because of Living Plum.
Speaker 2: Everybody loves everybody loves it. But I just need to say,
Speaker 2: if you're wondering what living plus is. Kendall essentially goes
Speaker 2: on stage pictures this horrible kind of fabricated community where
Speaker 2: there will be security guards, you can see Goofy, maybe
Speaker 2: a director will walk past who made a sleeping sleeping robot.
Speaker 2: And the big promise is that you will essentially live forever.
Speaker 2: He promises people immortal life. We are getting into very
Speaker 2: weird territory here. Now this is based on they legally
Speaker 2: real There are real things like medication and they call
Speaker 2: it life extension treatments. You know, you get blood infusions,
Speaker 2: plasma transfusions. Thanks for the extremely rich. But Kendall essentially
Speaker 2: comes out and promises people they can live on a
Speaker 2: cruise ship for their whole life on land with a
Speaker 2: security guard. They can meet Goofy, they can have blood
Speaker 2: transfusions and live forever. And it is one of the
Speaker 2: worst things you've ever seen. And of course, because succession
Speaker 2: is horribly realistic, everybody fucking.
Speaker 1: Loves everybody up. The stock is going crazy. People are
Speaker 1: fucking going crazy. Jim Kramer over med money.
Speaker 2: Oh he's saying bye bye bye bye bye bye bye.
Speaker 2: He's going bye bye bye. He just like his butt.
Speaker 1: His actual blew up.
Speaker 2: They blew and.
Speaker 1: Flew across the studio. Such was the excitement at the
Speaker 1: at the announcement of Living Plus. You know who doesn't
Speaker 1: like it is Lucas Madsin.
Speaker 2: I was gonna tweets who tweets? Uh die?
Speaker 1: I forget the actual phrase, but it is the German
Speaker 1: phrase that was over the concentration camps that welcomed the
Speaker 1: the sad victims of the concentration camps, and translated it
Speaker 1: means something like work will set you free, York will
Speaker 1: set you free. Basically, he is trying to say in
Speaker 1: a joking way that these are concentration camps for rich
Speaker 1: people who willingly go there, and not a great I
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good I would.
Speaker 2: Say, never do any tweets about the course in general,
Speaker 2: like especially not a joke tweet where you put it
Speaker 2: next to a character, a fictional character. Very horrific business.
Speaker 2: I have to say this was a big turnaround because
Speaker 2: Mattson he thought he was doing something here. Unfortunately for him.
Speaker 2: Kendall dealt with it enough. He seizes the moment and
Speaker 2: kind of he half makes a joke. He acts incredibly magnanimously.
Speaker 2: He manages to end with a standing ovation thanks to
Speaker 2: his you know, Jurassic Park style Richard Attenburgh, Bryan Cooks,
Speaker 2: you know dad who's helping him there, and Mattison ends
Speaker 2: up making himself look like a Nazi, which, lets be real,
Speaker 2: he is meant to be an a right kind of
Speaker 2: Nazi tech nightmare. He did. He did quote the Nazis
Speaker 2: to be to be fair, so like he did just
Speaker 2: he did, and it makes Madison look bad, and it
Speaker 2: makes Kendall's stock value rise. He looks so high, and
Speaker 2: everybody loves Kendall. He might get to that one ninety
Speaker 2: two dollars per share with this performance, even Carl, who
Speaker 2: was ready to literally castraight him. Carl is like, this
Speaker 2: man's special.
Speaker 1: I see it, he says. I know special when I
Speaker 1: see it, because it's some of the Greek islands that
Speaker 1: I'm looking at are very special. And I get the
Speaker 1: same feeling when I look at Ken, I get that
Speaker 1: same feeling.
Speaker 2: I have to be honest, in that moment, I felt
Speaker 2: like for the first time this season, I felt like
Speaker 2: Karl's eyes moved away from the Greek Islands, and I
Speaker 2: felt like I felt like he might in that moment
Speaker 2: he was seeing he was getting sucked back into the
Speaker 2: roy black hole, and I think he sort of was considering,
Speaker 2: like what would it be like if he was like
Speaker 2: this all the time and we really could mold him
Speaker 2: into a new logan, like how much more money could
Speaker 2: I earn? How much more capital could I gain? How
Speaker 2: much further could I rise? Obviously betting on Kendall, who
Speaker 2: is a literal murderer and has had many emotional problems
Speaker 2: throughout this series. Not a good, bad manslaughterer. Oh sorry, sorry,
Speaker 2: sorry manslaughter. I don't know what the laws working in
Speaker 2: the in the UK England, but I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's the same, but I would imagine it would be
Speaker 2: like a manslaughter. I would say you murdered. The connotation
Speaker 2: does come with an expectation of intent, but I would say,
Speaker 2: if you kill a service welcome.
Speaker 1: With your car, I do you think you could say
Speaker 1: him casually that he murdered him?
Speaker 2: But you're right on market moves. This is about education
Speaker 2: and correct information. So if Ken did ever get held accountable,
Speaker 2: which will never happen. He would be a manslaughterer.
Speaker 1: I just want to be accurate. I'm not, that's right.
Speaker 1: I don't have any kind of legal acumen. I am not.
Speaker 1: I don't want to get much richer than him by
Speaker 1: waist hover right, I am much richer than Clara Simons
Speaker 1: me and I want to be accurate. It was probably
Speaker 1: man's flam.
Speaker 2: Probably man's law, and he has had many emotional ups
Speaker 2: and downs. I don't think it's a good bet. But
Speaker 2: I did see Carl. I felt like he got sucked
Speaker 2: into the I'm putting success in inverted commis because it
Speaker 2: was awful, but it did go well. Kendall's back on top,
Speaker 2: and I hate to see.
Speaker 1: Ken is on top, and he and and you can
Speaker 1: see the worry on his siblings face and Roman's face,
Speaker 1: on Shiv's face. They're thinking, God, has Ken is? Has
Speaker 1: Ken strapped himself of the rocket ship to the top
Speaker 1: of the mat? Has he actually done it? And Ken
Speaker 1: is high off of this. He then re edits his
Speaker 1: dad's video so that it and sends it to Roman
Speaker 1: so that their late father again passed away forty eight
Speaker 1: hours ago or something is saying to Roman, I have
Speaker 1: a big announcement to make Roman. Roy has a micro
Speaker 1: dick and he's never been right about anything, and Roman,
Speaker 1: being an absolute like pain pig, watches the video again
Speaker 1: and that again and again and again.
Speaker 2: And then listens to it also actually and putant to
Speaker 2: note here Greg is rising up the ladder of power
Speaker 2: very quickly, because it was Greg who illegally edited the
Speaker 2: deep fake style video of Logan Roy to say double
Speaker 2: wastear Roy coast value, where before it said to raise
Speaker 2: the value. And I feel like when it's unclear whether
Speaker 2: Roman knew that Kendall was gonna do that, and I
Speaker 2: feel like when he was listening to that edit, it
Speaker 2: was kind of like playing in his mind what Kendall
Speaker 2: had done, not just this cruel like masochistic thing. Honestly,
Speaker 2: like Kendall said when he watched the original cut of
Speaker 2: the video and his dad was insulting the kids, he said,
Speaker 2: that's a Valentine's Day card. These kids actually love to
Speaker 2: hear that hat. But I think Roman is feeling he's
Speaker 2: already starting to have to plan his play of how
Speaker 2: to get rid of Kendall or get back in the
Speaker 2: good books, because he's basically forgotten. Now Kendall is the CEO.
Speaker 2: There's no co CEO after Roman turned down being a
Speaker 2: part of that speech.
Speaker 1: How does Kin celebrate the highest moment of his professional career. Well,
Speaker 1: he wants to do it in water. Water has been
Speaker 1: such an important medium for Ken. It is, of course
Speaker 1: where he did murder a guy in water. It is
Speaker 1: where he tried to commit suicide in water in Italy,
Speaker 1: and now it is where he baptizes himself at the
Speaker 1: church of his own success, diving into the waves off
Speaker 1: the coast of beautiful Malibu, emerging to stare into the
Speaker 1: gray slate sky and think about what a fucking badass
Speaker 1: he is, Which brings us to our final prompt of
Speaker 1: this double sized. Much like the stock valuation of waste
Speaker 1: oar Home double, this episode has gone double. The final
Speaker 1: prompt who is the biggest threat to Ken? Ken is
Speaker 1: at the mountain top right now, and you know what
Speaker 1: that means. There's only one way to go, and that
Speaker 1: is down. Who if anyone will bring him down? Will
Speaker 1: it be Jerry, Carl and Frank the old Guard and
Speaker 1: also Ray that guy. Will it be Shive in cohoots
Speaker 1: with either Tom or Matson or both? Will it be
Speaker 1: Matson alone, Will it be Roman alone? Who is going
Speaker 1: to be the person who knocks Ken off of his perch.
Speaker 2: I'm on the Shiv train today and I'm sticking with
Speaker 2: it because Shiv has so much control over Matson that
Speaker 2: in this episode, Shiv is the one who tells Mattson
Speaker 2: do a tweet to fuck over Kendall. He does it,
Speaker 2: that terrible tweet, and then Shiv calls him and says,
Speaker 2: you need to don't that was a bad tweet, and
Speaker 2: he deletes the tweet. So shared tweet, mad tweet, shad tweet,
Speaker 2: bad tweet, the words of Ken. She has a lot
Speaker 2: of power right now over a very irrational and edgy,
Speaker 2: but very powerful man. I think those two are a
Speaker 2: big threat. Even unintentionally. They could just really fuck things up.
Speaker 2: If they put them heads together and actually actively try
Speaker 2: and take Kendall down, he'd be in trouble. But there's
Speaker 2: also just shenanigans that could occur between them that could
Speaker 2: end up forcing Kendall into a bad place. So that's
Speaker 2: my bad at the end of this I like that.
Speaker 1: Pick two, and I think that these moments of vulnerability
Speaker 1: that they're giving us with Shiv, the reveal of the pregnancy,
Speaker 1: the tears, the kind of like deep emotional frustration and
Speaker 1: pain and hurt, and the betrayals of her brothers that
Speaker 1: she's having to keep under this placid mask. I think
Speaker 1: that they're setting us up to feel the vengeance that
Speaker 1: she is going to put into play. Now, is it
Speaker 1: gonna go? As we think this is succession and they're
Speaker 1: always subverting us. Yes, for instance, you know, I mean
Speaker 1: just the fact that they give Ken a win here,
Speaker 1: I know is a big subversion that we're so used to.
Speaker 1: We're so used to Ken losing, from killing a guide
Speaker 1: and trying to kill himself to saying to wrapping you.
Speaker 1: We're so used to him getting kicked in the ass.
Speaker 1: That is it was quite a shock and surprise to
Speaker 1: see him win. And I feel as if even if
Speaker 1: Shiv does quote unquote win, it will be a chalice
Speaker 1: with a lot of poison. Yes, I agree, And that
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Speaker 2: In today's not outway, you tell us what you love?
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Speaker 2: David pitches us on Red Dead Redemption two and why
Speaker 2: it should be the next video game adapted for TV.
Speaker 2: I can't actually believe that hasn't happened yet. It's a
Speaker 2: good idea they must be thinking about.
Speaker 4: Hi, Jason and Rosie. My name is David, and I
Speaker 4: want to talk to you guys about the Red Dead
Speaker 4: Redemption universe, which I think should be the next TV
Speaker 4: adaptation of a video game. I've played Red Dead Redemption two.
Speaker 4: I picked it up during the pandemic when I needed
Speaker 4: to pass the time with a new game, and I
Speaker 4: feel like it's the best single player storyline I've ever played.
Speaker 4: It's a huge, open world game with hours upon hours
Speaker 4: of different main quests and side quests, and what really
Speaker 4: makes Red Dead Redemption two special is the storyline and
Speaker 4: the character development of not just the main character, Arthur,
Speaker 4: but the various different side characters you get to play
Speaker 4: along with. Especially I think Sadie Adler's is the best
Speaker 4: character development in the game. Essentially, what you get to
Speaker 4: do is you play as this member of the Vanderlin Gang, Arthur,
Speaker 4: and you're traveling through a world which is leaving the
Speaker 4: Wild West behind as America moves into the twentieth century,
Speaker 4: and your character starts to question his loyalty to the gang,
Speaker 4: his loyalty to his leader Dutch, and I don't want
Speaker 4: to spoil too much, but you just get to really
Speaker 4: see these characters grow change their mindset about the world
Speaker 4: around them. And I think that with the many different
Speaker 4: hours of gameplay and the character development, it really leads
Speaker 4: itself to a TV adaptation that could span multiple seasons,
Speaker 4: and then you could move into the story of Red
Speaker 4: Dead Redemption one, which follows a different character that you
Speaker 4: see grow in RDR two. So it's obviously my hope
Speaker 4: and dream that you know, a TV company picks us
Speaker 4: up and I get to share on the screen this
Speaker 4: game and story that I love with people who don't
Speaker 4: necessarily play video games all the time. So thanks for
Speaker 4: your consideration of this Nerd out pitch and a shout
Speaker 4: out to your sound guy Vasillis, who was a grad
Speaker 4: school classmate of mine.
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