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Speaker 1: We're covering episode five and six of succession season four,

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Speaker 1: and we're going to Norway. In episode five, we open

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Speaker 1: with the new co CEO structure in place. Interim boy kings,

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Speaker 2: It's bad timing and this is an obvious power play

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Speaker 2: Billion billion, forty five billion dollar billion dollars.

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Speaker 1: have a dead dad Dick measuring contest with Lucas saying

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Speaker 5: that Scott's God is playing Lucas Madison as an absolute sociopath,

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, So they get down to brass coffin nails

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Speaker 1: quite quickly. The boys, backed by the board want more

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Speaker 1: I'll buy it all for one eighty seven to fifty

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Speaker 2: That is the dollar price for the each share. That's

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Speaker 2: it's one hundred and forty four dollars a share or

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Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty seven dollars a shah. But it's

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Speaker 2: still like a fuck ton more, but just a real.

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Speaker 1: Did you know that second prompt, Rosie? What is your

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Speaker 1: absolute basement amount of money to tell everyone to go

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Speaker 1: fuck off and and you would never be seen again.

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Speaker 1: You'd just be living your life writing Gudzilla comics for

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Speaker 2: I am an extremely thrifty person, so it's probably a

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Speaker 2: They want the deal. I just don't want it. I

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Speaker 1: Well in there, in fairness to Ken, Madson did say, hey,

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Speaker 1: And as is going on, there are rumors of the

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Speaker 1: Third propt Who would you kill? Of? Who would you keep?

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Speaker 1: Rosy Coe is acquiring not just Wastetar but also Gojo.

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Speaker 1: You're acquiring both companies in a tremendous fifty to fifty

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Speaker 2: That's a lot of money I should have already disappeared.

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Speaker 2: I'm sorry, who are.

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Speaker 1: You retaining and who are you firing?

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Speaker 2: she doesn't have the I'm putting this inverted Commas experience here,

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Speaker 2: Shi is staying. I think she is the only one

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Speaker 2: with any sense. She I'm also doing. I like what

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Speaker 2: Shiv does here, as we will get into. I'm keeping Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I'm keeping Jerry Carolina. I like yeah, I like that too,

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Speaker 2: I'm keeping those three. I'm mad if I'm really doing it,

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Speaker 2: I'm making one of those kind of deals where like

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Speaker 2: I'm paying them so much money. I'm not having any

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Speaker 2: Matt's in Roman, Kendall or gone, Like, go sit somewhere

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Speaker 2: else with your money. Do not be here with your sociopathic,

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Speaker 2: terrible business plans and awful scandalous I'm bringing in somebody

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Speaker 2: completely new to run it. You're all out, but gallo

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Speaker 2: of money, because that's the way this stuff goes.

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Speaker 1: I like those picks. Here's who what I would keep.

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Speaker 1: If I was acquiring a Gojo n Wat Star and

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Speaker 1: cash stock deal, I would retain Willa and Listen Sand.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Winning over Sand was a flop.

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Speaker 1: Okay, the sand wasn't right, among many other things, and

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Speaker 1: to keep going like that. This was her first foray

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Speaker 1: a big way, you know, the biggest on Broadway, the biggest.

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Speaker 2: Way, and and it was a good first try.

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Speaker 1: And I think that listen, as they say in the business,

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Speaker 1: buy the dip. That was the dip that stock is,

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Speaker 1: the will of stock is the lowest can get. I

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Speaker 1: think it can only go up. I am buying Willa

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Speaker 1: because I think those second and third and fourth projects

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Speaker 1: I think she's the only one that's good at a job.

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Speaker 2: Yes, I agree.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna keep Frank because I just like that guy too.

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Speaker 2: He's a good guy to having your corner, that's right.

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Speaker 1: And I'm gonna keep Colin because somebody might try to

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Speaker 1: throw on because I'm so so so rich after acquiring

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Speaker 1: the succession ipe and you know, one of these pinko

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Speaker 1: socialists might try to throw urine on me as I

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Speaker 2: Okay, I just want to say, I think all your picks.

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Speaker 2: If you are listening and you want to know who

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Speaker 2: to buy on, I say buy on Willa because you

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Speaker 2: know something that we learned today that has been kept

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Speaker 2: fairly out of the press, and the narrative of this

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Speaker 2: show and to the sidelines is the Royko Wata entertainment business.

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Speaker 2: We are gonna wait somebody to oversee the storytelling. The

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Speaker 2: movie we have going on, as we will get into,

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Speaker 2: is not doing wow. We need vision. We need how

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Speaker 2: to come in and tell my budget what to do.

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Speaker 1: Ballon CG is not looking good. The robot spends too

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Speaker 1: much time active.

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Speaker 2: In the cave.

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Speaker 1: We need to pump this up. We need a franchise, folks.

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Speaker 1: We need a hit. We need a tent pole, and

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Speaker 1: we need like the sequel, and we need the trilogy,

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Speaker 1: and then we need the spin offs. And I think

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Speaker 1: Willa is the person to do it. I freaking do

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Speaker 1: it this, Listen. It's much easier, I think, to write

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Speaker 1: You're absolutely right about that. Kenon Roman counter they say,

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Speaker 1: what's the okay? We take at and back out. What's

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Speaker 1: the price for the deal? Mattson says, listen, why do

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Speaker 1: you even want it? It fucking sucks. It's propaganda for

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Speaker 1: angry elderly diabetics. Which is all true, but he just

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Speaker 2: He's like, I'm just gonna make it like Bloomberg. If

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Speaker 1: And then he shits on the Boys and Shive and says,

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Speaker 1: guys are just a tribute band.

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Speaker 2: That's such a good insult that's up that would legendary

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Speaker 2: succession insults.

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Speaker 1: The boys and Shivs say, okay, we'll take it to

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Speaker 1: they decide to take the deal off.

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Speaker 2: Sal Sal Sal Sal Sal Kenda La Murta's chaotic motherfuckers,

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Speaker 2: they say about they're like to their credit, they do

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Speaker 2: do you think Pinky can dance?

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Speaker 1: Do you think that she could do this song and

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Speaker 1: She's not a staying good She's not just like doing

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Speaker 1: who is blowing coke. Now, Shiv an expectant mother. No

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Speaker 2: I'm telling you this episode. I've always been a Shiv fan. Okay,

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Speaker 2: but she's got problems and they all have. You're being

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Speaker 2: and I actually have I understand that people are taking

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Speaker 2: this sequence with Madison because he gives a way too

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Speaker 1: So I love this take. Shiv listen. Has shev made

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Speaker 1: manager of succession Bernie gil Evis. Did she convince a

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Speaker 1: her kes against waste star? Has she numerous times sold

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Speaker 1: involved in this family that is openly according a neo

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Speaker 1: She's digging in the digging in the hedges, gaining intel

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Speaker 1: Then it wasn't a joke, and then it was serious,

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00:24:52,600 --> 00:24:55,520
Speaker 1: and now it's not a joke, and this is obviously

432
00:24:55,600 --> 00:25:00,520
Speaker 1: highly damaging information. And at the end of which Shiv

433
00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:05,119
Speaker 1: kind of offers soft offers to consult with Mattson about

434
00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:08,120
Speaker 1: the goings on at Waste Star so that he can

435
00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:10,119
Speaker 1: kind of get the lay of the land. And he

436
00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 1: says he likes her because she's cool and can take

437
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: a joke, which is a lot of red flags from

438
00:25:14,800 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 1: a guy who's been sending blood is a joke former

439
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,480
Speaker 1: employee blood, Yes, I will also.

440
00:25:20,280 --> 00:25:22,920
Speaker 2: Say I this is another reason I was really loving Shiv.

441
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: Here she uses this as a moment to basically secure

442
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:31,480
Speaker 2: Carolina's future in this because he's like, how's your head

443
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:33,360
Speaker 2: of comms, He's like, I've been sending my blood. She's

444
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,560
Speaker 2: a nightmare, and she's like, well, mine's great. She's so

445
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:38,400
Speaker 2: good at her job. She knows exactly what she's doing.

446
00:25:38,440 --> 00:25:43,439
Speaker 2: And in that moment, Carolina's name supporting with solidarity. We

447
00:25:43,680 --> 00:25:46,879
Speaker 2: love supporting the victim of his stalking campaign. Of course

448
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: she's stan fired, but she's supporting the stronger woman, her

449
00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:54,520
Speaker 2: stronger friend, she says, the one she knows personally. And

450
00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,680
Speaker 2: I loved that because it is this great duality. I

451
00:25:57,720 --> 00:26:00,639
Speaker 2: should be just supporting and enabling this. Her abused it,

452
00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 2: but she's like, my friend, she's actually.

453
00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: Really moves here on market moves as allies. We support

454
00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 1: powerful women, supporting powerful women over weaker women.

455
00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:15,280
Speaker 2: Look, we support women's rights and women's wrongs. It's fun

456
00:26:15,280 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 2: to see that. We like to say it.

457
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 1: Ken puts his plan into motion. He uses Greg for

458
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:30,960
Speaker 1: this suddenly become moderately useful. Uh, and he basically says, hey, Greg,

459
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:33,399
Speaker 1: I need you to talk to this reporter who's going

460
00:26:33,480 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: to call you and basically say that things are not

461
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: looking good. The Swedes are fucking weirdos, and the culture

462
00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:43,200
Speaker 1: is not a fit and YadA YadA YadA. Jess meanwhile,

463
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 1: is tasked with setting up a distraction for the Gojo Vikings,

464
00:26:48,119 --> 00:26:51,160
Speaker 1: and that is to set up a screening of the

465
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 1: full rough cut of the latest of Waste War Studios

466
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 1: Summer blockbuster offerings, a sci fi tale about a robot

467
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: in a cave that runs It's something for three hours

468
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: and just make the Gojo people watch it.

469
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: And it is like, this is one of those legendarily

470
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 2: bad movies. You can just tell from the responses. Ever,

471
00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 2: she breezes out, She's like, I'm gonna come back. It's intrigued.

472
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 1: There's so much, super much to think.

473
00:27:17,880 --> 00:27:21,680
Speaker 2: About, and this is a movie that is like, imagine,

474
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:24,760
Speaker 2: I will talk about I will mention one of my

475
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:29,320
Speaker 2: favorite Hollywood flops. Look it up. There's incredible reporting around it.

476
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 2: There was a movie named Monster Trucks. It was based

477
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:34,400
Speaker 2: on the idea by a producer's three year old kid

478
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,120
Speaker 2: about monster who lived inside of the monster truck. The

479
00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:41,360
Speaker 2: movie bled millions, hundreds of millions of dollars. There are

480
00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:45,360
Speaker 2: legends that the first time they test screened it, the

481
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: monster they created was so horrific that kids ran out

482
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,639
Speaker 2: of the cinema screaming.

483
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 1: Good, that's what we want.

484
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:56,000
Speaker 2: Whatever, This is the way Star's version of that, this

485
00:27:56,119 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 2: is they're talking about millions. This is I would say

486
00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 2: three hundred and fifty million and down the pan the

487
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 2: budget is exploding. No one's gonna go and see it.

488
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:06,119
Speaker 2: It's boring. And this is what you show to the

489
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: people who are about to buy your company. They're trying

490
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,320
Speaker 2: to tang smart tanky smart play.

491
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: Well, Shiv is like, what's going on here? This is

492
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,520
Speaker 1: are you guys up to my brothers? Are you up

493
00:28:16,560 --> 00:28:19,159
Speaker 1: to something? And they're like no, no, no, no no uh.

494
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 1: But also Shiv, sensing that there are things going on,

495
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:26,040
Speaker 1: understanding that information is not be shared for her shared

496
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,879
Speaker 1: with her, does not share the information about Ebba and

497
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:33,560
Speaker 1: the blood haha. Meanwhile, she goes to meet Tom and

498
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,000
Speaker 1: meets up with him like outside.

499
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:39,040
Speaker 2: The movie screening tent, and she.

500
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: Says, Tom, your shoes are much too bright for people

501
00:28:42,520 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: who are coming down off of Molly. She starts kicking

502
00:28:45,680 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 1: dirt on his shoes. Incredible, and then so Tom flicks

503
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:51,960
Speaker 1: her ear lob and says, you have thick lobes like

504
00:28:52,080 --> 00:28:57,360
Speaker 1: barnacle meat, and poof their passion is rekindled in that moment.

505
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 1: Rosie Prompt number four, you need to walk out of

506
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:07,240
Speaker 1: a screening. What is the excuse that you use? You

507
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 1: are Ebba?

508
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:13,880
Speaker 2: Oh, I must leave my FedEx guy. My FedEx guy

509
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 2: just showed up with a new delivery okay of blood.

510
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 2: I can't let it go called half the time to

511
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 2: the freezer. Very important.

512
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: I've just received very important blood and I must go.

513
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: I like that, okay for me. Let's see, I'm walking

514
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:31,719
Speaker 1: out of the screening. David Zaslav is there. It'says, what

515
00:29:31,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 1: do you think of it? Are you leaving? And I say, yes,

516
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,760
Speaker 1: I am leaving, but it's because I'm gonna take a

517
00:29:38,760 --> 00:29:41,400
Speaker 1: page from Emba's book here. But I'm gonna say because

518
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,320
Speaker 1: it's just so emotionally raw.

519
00:29:44,640 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I really need.

520
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:50,600
Speaker 1: To process this for I need to process it. I

521
00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: need to go outside and maybe call my therapist. And

522
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: so much is coming up right now, and it's a lot.

523
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:57,960
Speaker 1: I shouldn't share that with you, but I'm gonna tell

524
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,000
Speaker 1: you that I need to talk to my therapist right now.

525
00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,760
Speaker 1: I have her on emergency speed dial whenever I need her.

526
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:06,440
Speaker 1: And something about the way the robot sits in the

527
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,600
Speaker 1: cave is just bringing up a lot of things for

528
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: me now, and I need to think about that. I

529
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:13,360
Speaker 1: need to call her and then I'll be back, you know,

530
00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:15,520
Speaker 1: sometime after the movie is over, to sit in the

531
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 1: empty theater. I'm going to come back when the movie

532
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: is over and sit in my seat, because that's how

533
00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: powerful this movie is. Roman and can meet with Mattson.

534
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 1: And at the end of the day, what happens is

535
00:30:31,080 --> 00:30:34,960
Speaker 1: Roman finally snaps because of all the little subtle insults

536
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: and jibes and a little different pokings and proddings and

537
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 1: the little things that Lucas is doing. You know, he's

538
00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:44,120
Speaker 1: just playing the high hand with them, and he's clearly

539
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,560
Speaker 1: doing this and kind of delighting in the fact that

540
00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: he's got them, you know, days after their father's death,

541
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: and he loves this little power play he's running it. Finally,

542
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,160
Speaker 1: Roman snaps and says like, well, fuck you. We're not

543
00:30:59,160 --> 00:31:02,160
Speaker 1: selling you the company and that's it. And by the way,

544
00:31:02,200 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 1: we think you killed dad. We think it's your fault

545
00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: you let him dry because you were just like running

546
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:11,800
Speaker 1: them ragged back and forth to Norway or wherever, Scandinavia

547
00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:15,160
Speaker 1: somewhere to think about the deal, do this, do that,

548
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,719
Speaker 1: and you killed him and we're not selling it. You

549
00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:21,320
Speaker 1: go fuck off. Later on the plane back to the States,

550
00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: it is a newsbreak comes across everybody's phone and Frank says,

551
00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:27,640
Speaker 1: so either Frank or Carl says, hey, look at this

552
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: Mattson one nine two one two, and Matson effectively has

553
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,600
Speaker 1: cornered the boys by making it public, not letting them

554
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,560
Speaker 1: hide it from the board has gotten his revenge by saying, Haha,

555
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: I'm going to buy your dad's favorite toy for one

556
00:31:46,800 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: ninety two, and the board is going to make you

557
00:31:48,840 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: do it. Lucas Matson for the win. Your final thoughts

558
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 1: on this episode.

559
00:31:53,480 --> 00:31:56,239
Speaker 2: Look, I'm not trying to be a Mattson apologist. I

560
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:59,400
Speaker 2: understand that I have condoned some pretty terrible behavior, but

561
00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:03,120
Speaker 2: this has been nature of talking about billionaires. I just

562
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 2: want to say Madson isn't wrong. Logan Roy was a

563
00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 2: prick and he was also a horrible say his kids,

564
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:12,520
Speaker 2: he was he was abusive, he was an awful man.

565
00:32:12,880 --> 00:32:15,000
Speaker 2: Is it sensitive to say that just after he died?

566
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 1: No?

567
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 2: But is it untrue? Also? No, I thought that Lucas

568
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: came out as the winner here. Shiv has moved up

569
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 2: in the rankings. To me, if she wants to be

570
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:30,240
Speaker 2: a betrayer, if she wants to go against her brothers

571
00:32:30,240 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: who have already cut her out, she could end up

572
00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:37,240
Speaker 2: in a very horrific but powerful position here agree a

573
00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 2: Madson ally and potential I don't know. A Matis and

574
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:43,720
Speaker 2: Shive wedding would be so horrific. I don't even know

575
00:32:43,760 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 2: if I could deal with it. But I feel like

576
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:49,760
Speaker 2: Shiv has become the power player at the end of

577
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:52,240
Speaker 2: episode five. Now that will all change with episode six,

578
00:32:52,320 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 2: but were right here. I think Shiver and Madison come

579
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 2: out on top after the trip to Norway up.

580
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: Next episode six, Episode six Living plus. So the operation

581
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: tank the deal obviously got more complicated when Lucas Matson

582
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:20,600
Speaker 1: whipped out his hundred and ninety two valuation yard stick,

583
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:23,520
Speaker 1: but that doesn't mean the boys are just gonna quit

584
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:27,520
Speaker 1: trying to tank it. The latest plan and get this,

585
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,200
Speaker 1: this is the latest scheme and I think it's crazy,

586
00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 1: but it just might work. Boost the value of waste

587
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: Star past one ninety two because the thought is that

588
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,840
Speaker 1: Lucas Matson doesn't have any You can squeeze that orange,

589
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: but once one ninety two comes out, that's it. The

590
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: orange has gone Dray The do nothing past one ninety

591
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,120
Speaker 1: two so if they can boost the valuation of the

592
00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,960
Speaker 1: company past one ninety two, that's it. The deal is

593
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: off and they will keep it. How will they do

594
00:33:57,320 --> 00:34:01,720
Speaker 1: this Living Plus? What is leaving plus? You ask? Imagine

595
00:34:02,280 --> 00:34:06,479
Speaker 1: a cruise ship but on dry land with like uh

596
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: a live forever medical stuff involved in it, hew, vampire blood,

597
00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: h you know, baby DNA something. You will be in

598
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: a cruise ship, but you'll be on dry land with

599
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,040
Speaker 1: security guards watching your every move.

600
00:34:24,680 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 2: Will be giving you infusion. It does, that's right.

601
00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: They'll be IP characters running up and down, and meanwhile

602
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 1: you'll be given the latest in life prolonging drugs. Okay,

603
00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: Ken is hoping that Living Plus it will be like

604
00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: tech meets real estate, and it'll be the stock viagra

605
00:34:47,560 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 1: that'll that'll get it up past one nine. Matson's flirtation

606
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: slash counter intelligence scam with Shiv continues that I love

607
00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,960
Speaker 1: to say private jets they met their Matson comes out

608
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 1: barefoot to Shive's private jets.

609
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:03,320
Speaker 2: Also, I just want to say this was a huge

610
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:05,919
Speaker 2: power play by ship here again, Bye bye bye ship.

611
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:08,399
Speaker 2: At this point, because he turns up, they meet where

612
00:35:08,400 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: their planes are being refueled, so no one can see them,

613
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 2: and he says, oh, I landed, come and see me.

614
00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 2: And she's like, nah, my plan's being refueled. I don't

615
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 2: need to leave it, and he has to go to

616
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:20,640
Speaker 2: Shiv's plane. She is playing him like a fiddle. He

617
00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,359
Speaker 2: needs her, but I'm enjoying how much she's making him

618
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 2: work for it.

619
00:35:25,920 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's why I I always have a fresh plane waiting.

620
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,279
Speaker 1: I don't want to wait for the refuel I have

621
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:35,399
Speaker 1: the fresh private jet waiting at the tarmac, and then

622
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: I have the I have this crane that kind of

623
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: like puts the plane that I'm in on the side,

624
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,359
Speaker 1: and I fall out the door into the door of

625
00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:48,680
Speaker 1: the other plane onto a couch, and then the plane

626
00:35:48,719 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: takes off.

627
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:50,720
Speaker 2: I was gonna say that I don't have to wait.

628
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:53,399
Speaker 2: You cannot tell me that you would spend your time

629
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,360
Speaker 2: walking down the stairs of the plane to a different plane.

630
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 1: It's good I stopped using my legs years ago.

631
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: When you.

632
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 1: Uh so Mattson hates living plus as he should and

633
00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: also terrible. Yeah, it's not only a terrible idea. It's

634
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:14,560
Speaker 1: like if you were buying a car, a used car,

635
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,760
Speaker 1: and then the current owner of the car who's about

636
00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:21,400
Speaker 1: to sell you the car is like, Hey, also, I'm

637
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: I'm gonna put the car into pimp my ride mode

638
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: and put five PlayStation consoles in the car before I

639
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 1: sell it to you.

640
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,319
Speaker 2: And you have to pay for them.

641
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:34,680
Speaker 1: That's my car, don't I haven't bought it yet.

642
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,160
Speaker 2: But don't do that.

643
00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,640
Speaker 1: So he doesn't get it. So Mattson makes his pitch.

644
00:36:37,640 --> 00:36:40,040
Speaker 1: He's like, hey, kill this product launch because it's stupid.

645
00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:43,279
Speaker 1: And also, I need someone inside who's going to tell

646
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 1: me all the stuff that's going on, and that person

647
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:48,920
Speaker 1: should be you. And Shiv plays coy, but she's thinking

648
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: about it, just thinking about it. A fifth prompt is

649
00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,759
Speaker 1: Mattson serious or he is he going to betray Shiv

650
00:36:56,840 --> 00:37:01,359
Speaker 1: as well? Does thing really wanted hire her on as

651
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,800
Speaker 1: his like head of whatever.

652
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:10,040
Speaker 2: I think that Mattson has a short and intense attention

653
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 2: span like many sociopaths, and I think yes, I think

654
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: Shiv is very curious to him, and I think he

655
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 2: is interested in the way that she doesn't really bow

656
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 2: to him or have any real interest in the deal.

657
00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:29,399
Speaker 2: He obviously also thinks he can get something from her,

658
00:37:29,719 --> 00:37:34,120
Speaker 2: but I think for now he is committed to this bit,

659
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 2: whether it would outlast him getting what he wanted, or

660
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:41,680
Speaker 2: them sleeping together, or Shiv joining or the merger. I

661
00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,640
Speaker 2: don't know, but I do believe in these moments he

662
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,440
Speaker 2: sees her as an ally That's right.

663
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,920
Speaker 1: I think that's right. Everyone on the waste side is

664
00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: in LA for Yesterday Disney plus Day flu Kennan Roman

665
00:37:57,560 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 1: brief the execs, including the old Guard, on the latest

666
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: about the deal. Ken then kind of soft pitches do

667
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:10,240
Speaker 1: we really want to do the deal? Do we really

668
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 1: want it? Like, isn't Mattson's kind of weird? And then

669
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: Roman chimes in, He's like, yeah, he's like he's like confidentially,

670
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:20,520
Speaker 1: you know, like obviously not for wider you know, wider spread.

671
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:22,920
Speaker 1: This is just for this room cone of silences. Matts

672
00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 1: and crazy. Is he mentally ill? He kind of went

673
00:38:26,480 --> 00:38:30,040
Speaker 1: like berserk on us when I blew up at him,

674
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 1: and you know, it's obviously like we're not medical professionals

675
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,240
Speaker 1: and it's not for us to say. But maybe he's unwell,

676
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,200
Speaker 1: I don't know, And then Jerry says, but okay, but

677
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: he's a genius. Everybody thinks he's a genius, and nobody

678
00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:46,239
Speaker 1: minds when geniuses act weird. Look at Elon Musk or

679
00:38:46,239 --> 00:38:48,400
Speaker 1: any other person that people think are geniuses. They all

680
00:38:48,400 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 1: do weird shit and everybody's like, that's great because they're

681
00:38:51,880 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: fucking geniuses. And then Carl who's still sizing up you

682
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: know which Greek island he's gonna buy, like he's trying

683
00:38:59,520 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 1: on a pair of suede.

684
00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:02,840
Speaker 2: Shoes, basically flicking through the brochure.

685
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: Yes, it's like, yeah, don't worry. This is a weirdo

686
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: who cares like I'm fucking ready to cash out big time.

687
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: Sixth prompt, Rosie, you need to kill a deal. Everybody

688
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:19,560
Speaker 1: wants this deal. I want the deal, Vasillis wants the deal,

689
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Chris wants the deal, Saul wants a deal. Delan wants

690
00:39:23,200 --> 00:39:28,520
Speaker 1: to deal. Everybody wants the fucking deal. You are involved

691
00:39:29,000 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: in the team that is forging the deal and you

692
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: want to kill it. How do you kill it?

693
00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 2: Oh man, I'd be so bad at this. Let me

694
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 2: put my market moves hot. I would kill the deal

695
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 2: by saying, look, if if you guys, if we do

696
00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: this deal, then the only way I'm gonna do it

697
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,200
Speaker 2: is I'm going to take all the money and I

698
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: will be the one who does the deal. And no

699
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 2: one else will get any deal money, so the deal

700
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 2: will be out of us. So we may as well

701
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:58,080
Speaker 2: just not do the deal and then you guys don't

702
00:39:58,080 --> 00:40:00,239
Speaker 2: lose his money that you don't have it.

703
00:40:00,400 --> 00:40:03,399
Speaker 1: That's good. I think that could work. I could work

704
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: with a little with a little framing. Let me try it.

705
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,799
Speaker 1: So you know, I'm sitting there in in X Ray

706
00:40:08,880 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: Vision headquarters over in Malibu, right on the beach. Oh yeah,

707
00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 1: And we're sitting there in the boardroom and we're looking

708
00:40:15,239 --> 00:40:18,040
Speaker 1: out at the ocean, and Vasilli's is flipping through, uh,

709
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 1: you know, his his iPad Greek Island pages of Greek

710
00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:26,440
Speaker 1: islands where he's gonna start his cult. And Ryan is

711
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: thinking about buying the Knicks, and Chris and Sol are

712
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,960
Speaker 1: going to open a movie studio. And I'm and I

713
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 1: need to tank this deal, this deal that's going to

714
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:38,839
Speaker 1: make us all even more monstrously rich than we are.

715
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: And I'm going to look. I look at everybody in

716
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: the eye, and I say, and I sigh very heavily,

717
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: and I stand up, and I put both hands on

718
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: the table, and I look down, and I look up

719
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: and I say, and I make eye contact with everyone

720
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:57,560
Speaker 1: in the room, and I say, money isn't everything. It's

721
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 1: that literally it is. It isn't it's not physically if

722
00:41:03,320 --> 00:41:09,040
Speaker 1: you look at it from a physics perspective, science, money

723
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: is not actual everything, all of the matter in the universe.

724
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: So think about that, guys, and do we really want

725
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:23,359
Speaker 1: to do this? Maybe not. I think it could work,

726
00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:30,640
Speaker 1: import I mean the shot silence tells me it's working. Shiv, meanwhile,

727
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,560
Speaker 1: smells something rotten in Gothenburg, which I think is a

728
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:40,239
Speaker 1: Swedish city. She can sense from this conversation and the

729
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:43,399
Speaker 1: way that Ken and Roman are speaking that they maybe

730
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:47,239
Speaker 1: don't want the deal and to tell, and it's really

731
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,960
Speaker 1: smart to tell for her, is that they've all of

732
00:41:50,040 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: a sudden are bringing up that Mattson is craving, perhaps

733
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: mentally ill, and they didn't gossip about it with her

734
00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: mean girls style, which is something that they would have

735
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: naturally done. So she presses and they admit that, yes,

736
00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:07,600
Speaker 1: they're trying to fuck the deal.

737
00:42:07,760 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: You're trying to the deal. They cannot lie to Shive

738
00:42:10,280 --> 00:42:14,520
Speaker 2: her power. Sorry, They're so sorry, and they can't believe

739
00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:15,960
Speaker 2: they didn't tell. I just want to say as well,

740
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,880
Speaker 2: Shive again. An incredibly powerful situation because Matson had mentioned

741
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:23,280
Speaker 2: her on the plane like, oh, you know, your brother's

742
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,160
Speaker 2: like lost it and like told me like go fuck myself,

743
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,799
Speaker 2: and and she was like, sounds like it sounds fake

744
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,560
Speaker 2: to me. And now she knows it's true because they're

745
00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,360
Speaker 2: trying to like reflect and pretend that that's what Mason

746
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 2: did to them. And yeah, and I mean, this was

747
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:40,800
Speaker 2: such a great moment for Ship and such a pathetic

748
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 2: moment for Kendall and Roman because they just cannot even

749
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,879
Speaker 2: commit to the bit like if you're gonna cut her out,

750
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,719
Speaker 2: cut her out. You did not need to tell her

751
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,799
Speaker 2: this plan. It was a terrible idea, but they do it.

752
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:53,319
Speaker 2: And then Roman he wants, he wants to hug, he

753
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:54,240
Speaker 2: wants to feel better.

754
00:42:55,160 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: I will say this it it aid a troubling amount

755
00:43:02,600 --> 00:43:06,839
Speaker 1: of humanity from the brothers that they couldn't flat out

756
00:43:06,880 --> 00:43:10,200
Speaker 1: lid of their sister who they apparently love his face,

757
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 1: So that part of it, you.

758
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 2: Know, I like that you see in the selfning.

759
00:43:15,719 --> 00:43:20,600
Speaker 1: And now Shive the meeting, let's out, and Shiv has

760
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: a scheduled a conference room in which to weep if

761
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: she needs to, and now she needs to because this

762
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: is actually a brutal betrayal from her brothers that she

763
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 1: takes in stride in the room. She's like, oh, yeah,

764
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,080
Speaker 1: no big deal. Okay, you want to kill it, and

765
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: you didn't tell me anything about it, and you've been

766
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,200
Speaker 1: talking about killing it apparently for days and plotting and

767
00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: scheming to kill it. And I'm supposedly I'm supposed to

768
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 1: get read into every decision, but you've kept this from me,

769
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 1: and uh. And she is actually very very emotional about it.

770
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,240
Speaker 1: She needs to cry. But then Tom walks in because

771
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: he's just happened to blunder into that office place, and

772
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,000
Speaker 1: he comforts her and they kiss. A reunion is bubbling shockingly.

773
00:44:03,480 --> 00:44:06,720
Speaker 1: Roman then has some business over at waste Our Studios

774
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 1: and he goes to meet the head of the film division,

775
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,600
Speaker 1: Joy Palmer, big time muckety muck film and we would

776
00:44:12,600 --> 00:44:13,560
Speaker 1: guess TV also.

777
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

778
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:18,080
Speaker 1: Wastear of course, as we've talked about, needs evaluation higher

779
00:44:18,080 --> 00:44:22,280
Speaker 1: than one ninety two. So Roman thinking, okay, well, hopefully

780
00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 1: maybe maybe film can do that for us. Roman's idea is,

781
00:44:25,800 --> 00:44:29,080
Speaker 1: if I just like love bomb Joy Palmer with all

782
00:44:29,120 --> 00:44:32,200
Speaker 1: the money that she's ever wanted to make these robot

783
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 1: in a Cave features, maybe they can make a franchiseable

784
00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:40,360
Speaker 1: hit that will pump pump pump up the valuation of

785
00:44:40,400 --> 00:44:42,959
Speaker 1: the company, and the and the Robot in a cave

786
00:44:43,160 --> 00:44:46,359
Speaker 1: cinematic universe will be launched and it'll be big, and

787
00:44:46,400 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 1: we could sell toys and we could sell blankets, and

788
00:44:49,040 --> 00:44:51,840
Speaker 1: we can have little kids going to our movies and

789
00:44:51,880 --> 00:44:54,600
Speaker 1: we launch a channel and all of that. Unfortunately, Joy

790
00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,600
Speaker 1: then broaches the touchy topic of ATM being hand in

791
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: hand with fascist presidential candidate Menken and how the Hollywood

792
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: creative community is little bit uneasy.

793
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:08,919
Speaker 2: She's wrong, it's a good parking, it's a very good point.

794
00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: Feel a little bit weird about it, and there is

795
00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:20,239
Speaker 1: still troublingly for Roman, it's still enough competition in the

796
00:45:20,280 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 1: space that they could theoretically decide not to work with we,

797
00:45:23,800 --> 00:45:25,720
Speaker 1: so they could take their robot in a cave features

798
00:45:25,800 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 1: somewhere else, and then what will we do? And Roman,

799
00:45:29,480 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: irritated at the sensation of any kind of like brief

800
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:38,760
Speaker 1: kind of like gesture of criticism, fires Joy or something.

801
00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:42,680
Speaker 2: Yes, it's very he puts out there as kind of

802
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,479
Speaker 2: a jokey threat, and then when she doesn't immediately start

803
00:45:46,560 --> 00:45:49,040
Speaker 2: kissing his ass, he kind of decides he's going to

804
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 2: commit to it, but it's also unclear whether it would

805
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:55,080
Speaker 2: legally be something he could do in that way because

806
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:56,840
Speaker 2: there are like ten other people he would have to

807
00:45:56,880 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: go through. But WHOA, it was really bad. Roman is

808
00:46:00,600 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: just not cut out for this. I love Roman, I

809
00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:04,320
Speaker 2: have a love of love for him. Terrible, awful person,

810
00:46:04,360 --> 00:46:05,960
Speaker 2: but in the context of the show, has like a

811
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:08,239
Speaker 2: little bit more humanity than other people. But him and

812
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:11,040
Speaker 2: Kendall are both going for the new title of Logan

813
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:12,600
Speaker 2: roy and it is not good.

814
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:15,439
Speaker 1: I think Shiv is doing as well. So that brings

815
00:46:15,520 --> 00:46:20,240
Speaker 1: us to our seventh prompt. Who is the most logan

816
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:28,520
Speaker 1: of the children, Ken, Roman, Shiv or Connor. Who is

817
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: the most currently logan esque of the Logan spawn?

818
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,920
Speaker 2: It's Shiv because Shiv interesting is the one who is

819
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 2: currently working with their competitor to betray them, something that

820
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: Logan has actively done in the past. She is not

821
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,879
Speaker 2: giving them the information that they could use against him,

822
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:55,360
Speaker 2: like the propensity for sharing and sending blood to ex girlfriends.

823
00:46:55,880 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 2: And also, when like you very kind and generously pointed out,

824
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 2: Roman and Kendall were opening up to Shive and admitting

825
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:11,120
Speaker 2: a wrongdoing, she did not do the same. She kept

826
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:15,400
Speaker 2: her options open. She is texting Lucas, she is calling Lucas,

827
00:47:15,680 --> 00:47:17,880
Speaker 2: she is keeping him up to date, and she is

828
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:21,080
Speaker 2: doing it without a hair of anxiety or stress, like

829
00:47:21,160 --> 00:47:23,839
Speaker 2: this is just like every day for her. So I

830
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: do think while Kendall and Roman both think that they

831
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 2: are playing at being the best logan, I think it

832
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:32,640
Speaker 2: is coming to Shive most naturally.

833
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:36,360
Speaker 1: I agree. I think at this particular juncture in the story,

834
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:41,200
Speaker 1: it is Shiv because she is she is moving quietly

835
00:47:41,400 --> 00:47:46,320
Speaker 1: but to build her power, as you so aptly noted. Meanwhile, Roman,

836
00:47:46,760 --> 00:47:50,200
Speaker 1: I mean this firing. He thinks it's something his dad

837
00:47:50,200 --> 00:47:52,239
Speaker 1: would have done. But his dad would have fired someone

838
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: from a position of strength of weakness, which is clearly

839
00:47:56,000 --> 00:48:01,239
Speaker 1: what Roman just fired this person from a position to weakness. Meanwhile,

840
00:48:01,600 --> 00:48:06,319
Speaker 1: Ken is getting up for the Living Plus presentation, and

841
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,000
Speaker 1: he's working with the stage crew to get the stage

842
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:14,600
Speaker 1: craft right. All he needs before the presentation, which is tomorrow,

843
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 1: is like a legitimate like a little house.

844
00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:22,160
Speaker 2: That will represent living pluses, living arrangements, you know, easy.

845
00:48:22,280 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 1: Maybe we can think about like maybe Spanish style if

846
00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:27,239
Speaker 1: you want to do that, or maybe those like really

847
00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 1: cute kind of like European gables. And then it'd be

848
00:48:29,560 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: great if there was like a blue sky with like

849
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,520
Speaker 1: clouds moving across it, and doesn't have to be like

850
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,560
Speaker 1: full like Tony Stark, like you know, like Iron Man three,

851
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 1: like holographic presentation, but it could be.

852
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: But if it can be that you do it. You

853
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 2: can do it.

854
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 1: That's right. And and and he lays down a new

855
00:48:48,040 --> 00:48:51,520
Speaker 1: rule for those Hollywood folks working for him. He says,

856
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: you can't say no.

857
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he says, this is a fun new rule. Nobody

858
00:48:55,520 --> 00:48:59,040
Speaker 2: can say no, kind of that he is in on that,

859
00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 2: and that he got say no, but I will, Okay,

860
00:49:01,520 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 2: So I need to ask you a question. This is

861
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:07,040
Speaker 2: more of a serious question. Sure, how's Kendall doing? Because

862
00:49:07,080 --> 00:49:10,759
Speaker 2: he seems he seems like he may have either relapsed

863
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,000
Speaker 2: or he's in a mania or both, because he comes

864
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 2: to this twenty four hours before the presentation and starts

865
00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:21,760
Speaker 2: making like Broadway play style demands that would take three months,

866
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 2: and he is excited about it and feels, honestly truly

867
00:49:26,120 --> 00:49:29,839
Speaker 2: feels like everyone else is excited as him, when he's

868
00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 2: actually putting everyone out. He doesn't seem like he's doing great.

869
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:38,400
Speaker 1: I and anyone else who watches the succession television program

870
00:49:38,440 --> 00:49:45,560
Speaker 1: on Max On Max No understands that there would be

871
00:49:45,600 --> 00:49:52,239
Speaker 1: no amount of surprise it should Kin suddenly bobble a

872
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,800
Speaker 1: baggie of some white powder onto the like, and it

873
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:58,120
Speaker 1: would not surprise anyone. I would not be surprised. In fact,

874
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 1: I would be It would surprise if he wasn't dabbling, right,

875
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:07,160
Speaker 1: I would be surprised if he wasn't in, you know,

876
00:50:07,640 --> 00:50:15,480
Speaker 1: Scrooge mcducking into various vats of white drugs. Shive and

877
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,920
Speaker 1: Tom's ongoing unie continues a pace with the investor de

878
00:50:19,080 --> 00:50:22,880
Speaker 1: Gala with a little game of bite, which apparently Shiv

879
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: has a game that she used to play which she

880
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: has never shared with her husband soon to be ex husband,

881
00:50:32,719 --> 00:50:36,640
Speaker 1: and the game goes, you bite each other's arms until

882
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:40,959
Speaker 1: one of you can't take the pain anymore, and that's it. Later,

883
00:50:41,080 --> 00:50:45,279
Speaker 1: they go to Shiv's hotel room and Tom admits that

884
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:49,400
Speaker 1: he betrayed her in season three basically for the money.

885
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:52,719
Speaker 1: He never you know, Shiv, I love money. You know

886
00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 1: that I love money. You never let me wet my

887
00:50:56,719 --> 00:50:59,640
Speaker 1: beak in the money, never let me in, and it

888
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: was always gonna be me between you and your dad.

889
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: And I picked your dad because he's got a lot

890
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:07,560
Speaker 1: of money and I can buy some nice watches, and

891
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,239
Speaker 1: I thought that was the most experient way of the money.

892
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 1: And let's be honest about it, you wouldn't give a

893
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:13,759
Speaker 1: shit about me if I didn't have nice watches. Nice

894
00:51:13,800 --> 00:51:17,719
Speaker 1: suits could take you to five star Michelin star restaurants.

895
00:51:18,239 --> 00:51:20,880
Speaker 1: You don't want to go to fucking olive garden. You

896
00:51:20,920 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 1: know you don't want to do that.

897
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,840
Speaker 2: You don't want to endless breadsticks, Yeah.

898
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,800
Speaker 1: You don't care about that, and then they have sex.

899
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:33,759
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911
00:52:04,920 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Jerry reads Roman the Riot Act for firing Joy without

912
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:12,880
Speaker 1: telling her, without telling anyone, just to the spur of

913
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 1: the moment, and apparently Joy has retained counsel, and good

914
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:17,280
Speaker 1: for her.

915
00:52:17,920 --> 00:52:21,480
Speaker 2: She needs it and she's gonna get big payout.

916
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:24,759
Speaker 1: And a huge payout, and honestly, like, is it not

917
00:52:25,160 --> 00:52:27,759
Speaker 1: for the best Joy Palmer to be like free of

918
00:52:27,800 --> 00:52:32,279
Speaker 1: this like terrible institution, which I but by the way,

919
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:34,239
Speaker 1: here's a little inside tip for all the listeners to

920
00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:36,920
Speaker 1: market moves by waste star Bye.

921
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:37,919
Speaker 2: Bye, bye bye.

922
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,840
Speaker 1: Roman says, I didn't fire her. I said that she

923
00:52:42,040 --> 00:52:43,759
Speaker 1: was fired to her, that's.

924
00:52:43,520 --> 00:52:49,040
Speaker 2: All classic classic Vermiment. Never met a consequence. He can

925
00:52:49,080 --> 00:52:49,719
Speaker 2: deny or.

926
00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:54,920
Speaker 1: What uh you know, Roman, who we all remember jacking

927
00:52:54,960 --> 00:52:59,600
Speaker 1: off against a window in season one. Anyway, uh now

928
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,480
Speaker 1: know he's Roman is feeling once again that sensation of

929
00:53:03,520 --> 00:53:08,399
Speaker 1: criticism coming from a person, and he says, essentially to Jerry,

930
00:53:08,440 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: hey remember that thing where you were fired, where I

931
00:53:10,760 --> 00:53:12,960
Speaker 1: fired you because Dad said to fire you and I

932
00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:14,919
Speaker 1: did it. I delivered that message. Well, what if you're

933
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:18,680
Speaker 1: just fired all over again because something about cruises. You

934
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,040
Speaker 1: did it poorly and you're fired. And then she says,

935
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: you know, be serious for a second. You are interim

936
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:31,920
Speaker 1: co CEO. You're just minding the store here. You're subletting

937
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 1: and Jerry is not on the kill list. That's right.

938
00:53:35,520 --> 00:53:38,760
Speaker 1: I'm going to be working at Gojo and be working

939
00:53:38,880 --> 00:53:42,799
Speaker 1: very happily for multi billionaire Lucas Mathson and understand that

940
00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,760
Speaker 1: tech is the real shit. They're not like this old money,

941
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:50,680
Speaker 1: out of fashion media money, kind of old people's stuff there,

942
00:53:50,800 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: and they're where the juice is there, where the money

943
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,400
Speaker 1: is there, where the market is moving, and you just

944
00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,240
Speaker 1: you just should realize that and go with the money.

945
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:03,880
Speaker 1: And it's like, well, maybe you're fired, maybe you're not.

946
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,880
Speaker 1: I don't know, and he walks out. He leaves in

947
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:08,839
Speaker 1: a very vague place. He basically threatens to fire Jerry,

948
00:54:08,840 --> 00:54:09,919
Speaker 1: but we don't know if she's fine.

949
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 2: And when he goes to teal Ken, he kind of

950
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,440
Speaker 2: wants Ken to pull it back because obviously loves Jerry.

951
00:54:18,480 --> 00:54:20,200
Speaker 2: He's kind of like, you have to smooth that over.

952
00:54:20,320 --> 00:54:22,600
Speaker 2: Maybe that was too much, and Ken's like, no, that

953
00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:26,360
Speaker 2: was BALLA, that's fucking great ball. You're just making moves,

954
00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:30,239
Speaker 2: You're doing it, and maybe these young tucks have the

955
00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 2: rights and the way to make something out of this. No,

956
00:54:33,000 --> 00:54:33,960
Speaker 2: you don't, Kendall.

957
00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: That's why I say bye bye, bye, bye bye bye.

958
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:40,759
Speaker 1: Way start, and Ken says, you know, fuck it, drop

959
00:54:40,840 --> 00:54:42,680
Speaker 1: Jerry's head in the end zone. I love it, just

960
00:54:42,719 --> 00:54:45,080
Speaker 1: do you know, do the icky shuffle over her corpse?

961
00:54:45,600 --> 00:54:49,040
Speaker 1: And that brings us to our eighth prompt, Joy or Jerry,

962
00:54:49,080 --> 00:54:52,919
Speaker 1: who's fired or and who was merely told to them

963
00:54:53,000 --> 00:54:53,720
Speaker 1: that they were.

964
00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 2: I think Joy is probably gonna keep that representation and

965
00:55:03,680 --> 00:55:06,760
Speaker 2: get a massive payout because why fights to work for Roman,

966
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:09,680
Speaker 2: even if she's not really fired? Why are you going

967
00:55:09,760 --> 00:55:12,960
Speaker 2: to do that? Take your because she's becomes a million.

968
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 1: Because she passionately believes in that robot in the caves.

969
00:55:17,920 --> 00:55:22,440
Speaker 1: In the cave, it's personal, it's a personal story. It's

970
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:25,759
Speaker 1: something from that speaks to her from her children, and

971
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:29,279
Speaker 1: she really passionally believes in the robot in a cave

972
00:55:29,320 --> 00:55:30,160
Speaker 1: cinematic universe.

973
00:55:30,480 --> 00:55:34,239
Speaker 2: Well maybe maybe then she'll fight for her passions, but

974
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:38,960
Speaker 2: I believe she'll probably take the golden parachute and begone. Uh, Jerry,

975
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:45,120
Speaker 2: I do believe that Kendall really likes this firing, But

976
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 2: it do either of those children who by the way

977
00:55:49,440 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 2: you made you made a great note in our preparation

978
00:55:53,920 --> 00:55:58,600
Speaker 2: that is Shi's godmother. We lean hen that big succession

979
00:55:58,840 --> 00:56:02,280
Speaker 2: Cannon here. I think that is a great and important

980
00:56:02,360 --> 00:56:07,080
Speaker 2: note because Kendall and Roman might want to fire Jerry,

981
00:56:07,320 --> 00:56:09,759
Speaker 2: but Jerry really has this. I think she'll just keep

982
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:12,040
Speaker 2: to showing up to work and getting paid. Like neither

983
00:56:12,040 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 2: of them knows how to do it. Child's not gonna

984
00:56:13,800 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 2: fire Jerry. How you do it? They don't really know.

985
00:56:17,200 --> 00:56:19,360
Speaker 2: They can say it's fired, and she's still chilling.

986
00:56:19,719 --> 00:56:22,840
Speaker 1: Like originally it's like walking into the into the cockpit

987
00:56:22,920 --> 00:56:26,680
Speaker 1: of the space shuttle and being like, well, what button fires.

988
00:56:26,320 --> 00:56:29,279
Speaker 2: Jerry exactly exactly, like or going into being like the

989
00:56:29,320 --> 00:56:32,879
Speaker 2: pilot's fired, and everyone on the pilots like, we need

990
00:56:32,920 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 2: to land the space show and you're like, okay, he's

991
00:56:35,680 --> 00:56:38,880
Speaker 2: fired after that, and everyone's like, yeah, sure, sure he's fired.

992
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,400
Speaker 2: Like I don't believe we've seen the last of Jerry,

993
00:56:41,680 --> 00:56:45,319
Speaker 2: and especially since she is still chilling with the old

994
00:56:45,360 --> 00:56:50,200
Speaker 2: guard during what will surely become another legendary Kendall performance.

995
00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:53,480
Speaker 1: Well, the conversation that follows this with Carl, I think

996
00:56:53,520 --> 00:56:56,959
Speaker 1: will inform the status of Jerry Ken As we saw

997
00:56:57,040 --> 00:57:02,000
Speaker 1: with Logan's birthday Wrap, is a is a natural stage performer.

998
00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:06,440
Speaker 1: He just gets off on it. He is at home there,

999
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:11,640
Speaker 1: and not even the fact that the clouds over the

1000
00:57:11,680 --> 00:57:15,200
Speaker 1: cabin that he had built is just like missed, looks

1001
00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:21,840
Speaker 1: like it's very bad, it looks terrible. Even that doesn't

1002
00:57:21,880 --> 00:57:25,120
Speaker 1: really dampen his excitement to get up on the stage

1003
00:57:25,160 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: for the first time since l to the OG. He

1004
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:35,000
Speaker 1: is somewhat shaken. However, when Roman fresh off this conversation

1005
00:57:35,120 --> 00:57:39,440
Speaker 1: with Jerry and in which Jerry essentially says, hey, you

1006
00:57:39,640 --> 00:57:41,760
Speaker 1: have to let this deal go through. What the fuck

1007
00:57:41,800 --> 00:57:42,720
Speaker 1: are you talking about?

1008
00:57:42,840 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 2: And also, i will say, secretly being manipulated by shivin Matson,

1009
00:57:48,000 --> 00:57:50,880
Speaker 2: because shit, Matson is saying please stop this, please stop this.

1010
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 2: So Shiv's kind of spoot trying to spook him by

1011
00:57:54,000 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 2: making him think it's going to go wrong and pointing

1012
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,320
Speaker 2: out that Kendall is clearly over hyped about this and

1013
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 2: that the stage looks terrible. So basically Roman has everyone

1014
00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,440
Speaker 2: in his AA saying stop this.

1015
00:58:06,400 --> 00:58:08,600
Speaker 1: That's right. So Roman says to Ken, you.

1016
00:58:08,560 --> 00:58:10,120
Speaker 2: Know, is this a good idea? Do we want to

1017
00:58:10,160 --> 00:58:10,520
Speaker 2: do this?

1018
00:58:10,880 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: The numbers that you're gonna go up there with the

1019
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,160
Speaker 1: presentation that is, let's face it, it's mostly science fiction.

1020
00:58:17,360 --> 00:58:18,720
Speaker 1: The numbers don't quite add up.

1021
00:58:18,800 --> 00:58:22,040
Speaker 2: You have been fake in the numbers. You may may

1022
00:58:22,120 --> 00:58:24,960
Speaker 2: or may not have ai fake dog Dad into pretending

1023
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 2: the numbers were.

1024
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:29,240
Speaker 1: You did fit, You did do that, and is that, like,

1025
00:58:29,480 --> 00:58:33,960
Speaker 1: you know, forget the legal implications of lying directly to

1026
00:58:34,040 --> 00:58:37,360
Speaker 1: our shareholders. Maybe we shouldn't do it. And Ken is

1027
00:58:37,520 --> 00:58:39,480
Speaker 1: a little bit shaken by this and then has he

1028
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:43,640
Speaker 1: leaves that room. Carl, the CFO of Wastar Royco, steps

1029
00:58:43,640 --> 00:58:46,040
Speaker 1: to him and is and is really tough with him.

1030
00:58:46,040 --> 00:58:47,880
Speaker 1: He says, Listen, I've put up with a lot of

1031
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,200
Speaker 1: shit over the years from your dad, but I have

1032
00:58:51,320 --> 00:58:54,320
Speaker 1: been a major executive at lots and lots of big,

1033
00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:59,440
Speaker 1: big time companies, and I've been around the fucking block, buddy,

1034
00:58:59,720 --> 00:59:03,320
Speaker 1: And if you try and fuck with this deal, I

1035
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:08,160
Speaker 1: will chop your fucking nuts off. Okay, he says, you

1036
00:59:08,200 --> 00:59:09,800
Speaker 1: have my dick in your hand, but I've got yours

1037
00:59:09,800 --> 00:59:11,280
Speaker 1: in mind, and fuck with the deal and I'll blow

1038
00:59:11,360 --> 00:59:13,840
Speaker 1: up your spot. And that's it, and Carlson and that

1039
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:16,120
Speaker 1: and Carl walks away, and it's a wonderful power play

1040
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:18,880
Speaker 1: by Carl and you have to feel like, now there's

1041
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:20,880
Speaker 1: a moment here where Ken basically says, well, I'm the

1042
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:22,800
Speaker 1: CEO and you're the CFO. What if I find you?

1043
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:26,120
Speaker 1: Basically implying like, what if I fire you? And Carl

1044
00:59:26,520 --> 00:59:30,520
Speaker 1: Uh says, and this is where this informs the Jerry conversation.

1045
00:59:30,680 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: He basically says, when you gonna fucking fire the CFO

1046
00:59:34,520 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: a few days after you take control of the company,

1047
00:59:38,200 --> 00:59:42,120
Speaker 1: like two days after your dad died, in the midst

1048
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,040
Speaker 1: of an interim situation in which you are selling it

1049
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: coming to somebody else? How's that going to play? Do that? Yeah?

1050
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: Good luck? And I feel like the same thing would

1051
00:59:50,240 --> 00:59:52,200
Speaker 1: happen exact General Counsel.

1052
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:55,080
Speaker 2: And the funniest thing about this as well is I

1053
00:59:55,200 --> 00:59:57,400
Speaker 2: love I actually kind of love to see the kids

1054
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,960
Speaker 2: losing a little bit of that and a little bit

1055
01:00:01,000 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: of control. It starts to seem like the rope is

1056
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: a little bit greased and they're sliding down it. Because

1057
01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:08,560
Speaker 2: the real truth is there is a major subplot in

1058
01:00:08,600 --> 01:00:12,520
Speaker 2: this episode where Kendall is forcing the accountants to fake

1059
01:00:12,640 --> 01:00:18,280
Speaker 2: numbers like this is not just a potential you know risk,

1060
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 2: This could blow up in everyone's face, including Colin. Cal

1061
01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:22,920
Speaker 2: wants that fucking island bro.

1062
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:27,360
Speaker 1: He wants that island man, get the hummus going get

1063
01:00:27,360 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 1: the Spanic Coipeda going exactly democracy, the whole thing, you know,

1064
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:38,240
Speaker 1: the fucking the Spartans, the Peloponnesian War, all the history,

1065
01:00:38,280 --> 01:00:42,040
Speaker 1: all that shit. Fucking let's get it going. And that's

1066
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:45,240
Speaker 1: what he's gonna be doing, is studying the rich history

1067
01:00:45,600 --> 01:00:51,280
Speaker 1: of the development of European democracy and the traditions of

1068
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 1: democracy that have formed our beautiful American system. And he's

1069
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:57,520
Speaker 1: gonna be doing that, studying that with his brother in

1070
01:00:57,640 --> 01:00:59,240
Speaker 1: law there on the island that he is going to

1071
01:00:59,320 --> 01:01:05,200
Speaker 1: purchase all academic pursuits merely for the betterment of the mind, exactly.

1072
01:01:05,600 --> 01:01:09,680
Speaker 2: Ultimately mankind, because if his mind gets back everyone well,

1073
01:01:10,000 --> 01:01:12,280
Speaker 2: you know, every ship will be lifting the things that

1074
01:01:12,400 --> 01:01:15,400
Speaker 2: will happen on the Greek island to be named later

1075
01:01:15,560 --> 01:01:19,800
Speaker 2: owned by Carl, and his brother in law will put

1076
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:22,840
Speaker 2: this down and buy stock in this. We was better

1077
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 2: the human race, back said the human race.

1078
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:31,320
Speaker 1: Every problem that we face, war, injustice, in a quality

1079
01:01:31,360 --> 01:01:37,280
Speaker 1: island paper straws, all of that will be solved on

1080
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:41,160
Speaker 1: some Greek islands that we don't know about right now.

1081
01:01:42,520 --> 01:01:47,439
Speaker 1: Ken's presentation is what it may be. Cringe so hard.

1082
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:49,000
Speaker 1: I blew out a vertebrae in my neck.

1083
01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:53,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it starts absolutely horrific to watch. My mom had

1084
01:01:53,680 --> 01:01:56,520
Speaker 2: to leave hard. My mom is visiting and she had

1085
01:01:56,560 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 2: to leave because the episode made us so uncomfortable. Not

1086
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,680
Speaker 2: fully forever. Just go for a walk.

1087
01:02:02,320 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 1: He He opens by saying, big shoes, you know, saying

1088
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,959
Speaker 1: that you know, he's filling his father's shoes. He says,

1089
01:02:09,160 --> 01:02:12,800
Speaker 1: he repeats the phrase big shoes at.

1090
01:02:12,840 --> 01:02:16,960
Speaker 2: Least like nine times, and everyone is watching him like

1091
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:20,520
Speaker 2: this man is having Enovis breakdown, Like this is less

1092
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 2: than the rap.

1093
01:02:22,040 --> 01:02:27,520
Speaker 1: Then he says whose big shoes, and logan appears on

1094
01:02:27,560 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: the screen computer well, you know, computer background, but like

1095
01:02:32,920 --> 01:02:37,440
Speaker 1: assets taken from an earlier shoot hyping up Living Plus,

1096
01:02:37,480 --> 01:02:42,360
Speaker 1: obviously taken before the absolutely tragic de mind Logan Roy

1097
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:46,600
Speaker 1: high in an airplane with his mistress and other executives.

1098
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,919
Speaker 1: He and and uh and aided. This presentation is by,

1099
01:02:52,760 --> 01:03:00,160
Speaker 1: as we have noted, completely spurious fictional numbers. Bottom line

1100
01:03:00,400 --> 01:03:05,600
Speaker 1: with the numbers and Logan Roy's CGI edited form say

1101
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:11,560
Speaker 1: that Living plus will double. That's right, you heard right,

1102
01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: you heard correctly. That's not earwax in your ears. You

1103
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:19,800
Speaker 1: don't have to take the AirPods out of your ears.

1104
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:25,320
Speaker 1: You heard right, was Star Roy COO's value will double

1105
01:03:25,480 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 1: because of Living Plum.

1106
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 2: Everybody loves everybody loves it. But I just need to say,

1107
01:03:31,400 --> 01:03:35,880
Speaker 2: if you're wondering what living plus is. Kendall essentially goes

1108
01:03:35,880 --> 01:03:42,000
Speaker 2: on stage pictures this horrible kind of fabricated community where

1109
01:03:42,000 --> 01:03:44,480
Speaker 2: there will be security guards, you can see Goofy, maybe

1110
01:03:44,520 --> 01:03:48,840
Speaker 2: a director will walk past who made a sleeping sleeping robot.

1111
01:03:49,200 --> 01:03:53,880
Speaker 2: And the big promise is that you will essentially live forever.

1112
01:03:53,960 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 2: He promises people immortal life. We are getting into very

1113
01:03:57,080 --> 01:04:00,360
Speaker 2: weird territory here. Now this is based on they legally

1114
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,600
Speaker 2: real There are real things like medication and they call

1115
01:04:04,640 --> 01:04:09,040
Speaker 2: it life extension treatments. You know, you get blood infusions,

1116
01:04:09,080 --> 01:04:13,720
Speaker 2: plasma transfusions. Thanks for the extremely rich. But Kendall essentially

1117
01:04:13,720 --> 01:04:15,880
Speaker 2: comes out and promises people they can live on a

1118
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:19,000
Speaker 2: cruise ship for their whole life on land with a

1119
01:04:19,040 --> 01:04:21,720
Speaker 2: security guard. They can meet Goofy, they can have blood

1120
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:23,800
Speaker 2: transfusions and live forever. And it is one of the

1121
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,680
Speaker 2: worst things you've ever seen. And of course, because succession

1122
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,800
Speaker 2: is horribly realistic, everybody fucking.

1123
01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:34,720
Speaker 1: Loves everybody up. The stock is going crazy. People are

1124
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:37,640
Speaker 1: fucking going crazy. Jim Kramer over med money.

1125
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:39,920
Speaker 2: Oh he's saying bye bye bye bye bye bye bye.

1126
01:04:40,000 --> 01:04:43,760
Speaker 2: He's going bye bye bye. He just like his butt.

1127
01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 1: His actual blew up.

1128
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:47,360
Speaker 2: They blew and.

1129
01:04:48,040 --> 01:04:51,320
Speaker 1: Flew across the studio. Such was the excitement at the

1130
01:04:51,440 --> 01:04:53,480
Speaker 1: at the announcement of Living Plus. You know who doesn't

1131
01:04:53,480 --> 01:04:54,520
Speaker 1: like it is Lucas Madsin.

1132
01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:58,200
Speaker 2: I was gonna tweets who tweets? Uh die?

1133
01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,560
Speaker 1: I forget the actual phrase, but it is the German

1134
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:06,160
Speaker 1: phrase that was over the concentration camps that welcomed the

1135
01:05:06,160 --> 01:05:11,000
Speaker 1: the sad victims of the concentration camps, and translated it

1136
01:05:11,040 --> 01:05:14,720
Speaker 1: means something like work will set you free, York will

1137
01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 1: set you free. Basically, he is trying to say in

1138
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:24,919
Speaker 1: a joking way that these are concentration camps for rich

1139
01:05:24,960 --> 01:05:29,200
Speaker 1: people who willingly go there, and not a great I

1140
01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:30,800
Speaker 1: don't think that's a good I would.

1141
01:05:30,560 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: Say, never do any tweets about the course in general,

1142
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:36,680
Speaker 2: like especially not a joke tweet where you put it

1143
01:05:36,720 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 2: next to a character, a fictional character. Very horrific business.

1144
01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:44,920
Speaker 2: I have to say this was a big turnaround because

1145
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:52,080
Speaker 2: Mattson he thought he was doing something here. Unfortunately for him.

1146
01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:58,440
Speaker 2: Kendall dealt with it enough. He seizes the moment and

1147
01:05:58,560 --> 01:06:03,400
Speaker 2: kind of he half makes a joke. He acts incredibly magnanimously.

1148
01:06:04,040 --> 01:06:06,920
Speaker 2: He manages to end with a standing ovation thanks to

1149
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 2: his you know, Jurassic Park style Richard Attenburgh, Bryan Cooks,

1150
01:06:12,200 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 2: you know dad who's helping him there, and Mattison ends

1151
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 2: up making himself look like a Nazi, which, lets be real,

1152
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:22,440
Speaker 2: he is meant to be an a right kind of

1153
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 2: Nazi tech nightmare. He did. He did quote the Nazis

1154
01:06:25,920 --> 01:06:28,480
Speaker 2: to be to be fair, so like he did just

1155
01:06:28,640 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 2: he did, and it makes Madison look bad, and it

1156
01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:36,480
Speaker 2: makes Kendall's stock value rise. He looks so high, and

1157
01:06:36,560 --> 01:06:40,000
Speaker 2: everybody loves Kendall. He might get to that one ninety

1158
01:06:40,040 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 2: two dollars per share with this performance, even Carl, who

1159
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 2: was ready to literally castraight him. Carl is like, this

1160
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:48,880
Speaker 2: man's special.

1161
01:06:49,000 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 1: I see it, he says. I know special when I

1162
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:54,680
Speaker 1: see it, because it's some of the Greek islands that

1163
01:06:54,720 --> 01:06:56,720
Speaker 1: I'm looking at are very special. And I get the

1164
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,040
Speaker 1: same feeling when I look at Ken, I get that

1165
01:06:59,280 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 1: same feeling.

1166
01:07:00,520 --> 01:07:04,440
Speaker 2: I have to be honest, in that moment, I felt

1167
01:07:04,480 --> 01:07:08,000
Speaker 2: like for the first time this season, I felt like

1168
01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:11,640
Speaker 2: Karl's eyes moved away from the Greek Islands, and I

1169
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:14,800
Speaker 2: felt like I felt like he might in that moment

1170
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,520
Speaker 2: he was seeing he was getting sucked back into the

1171
01:07:17,600 --> 01:07:21,560
Speaker 2: roy black hole, and I think he sort of was considering,

1172
01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,640
Speaker 2: like what would it be like if he was like

1173
01:07:24,680 --> 01:07:26,880
Speaker 2: this all the time and we really could mold him

1174
01:07:26,880 --> 01:07:29,439
Speaker 2: into a new logan, like how much more money could

1175
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:31,960
Speaker 2: I earn? How much more capital could I gain? How

1176
01:07:32,040 --> 01:07:35,720
Speaker 2: much further could I rise? Obviously betting on Kendall, who

1177
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,800
Speaker 2: is a literal murderer and has had many emotional problems

1178
01:07:38,840 --> 01:07:43,840
Speaker 2: throughout this series. Not a good, bad manslaughterer. Oh sorry, sorry,

1179
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,400
Speaker 2: sorry manslaughter. I don't know what the laws working in

1180
01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 2: the in the UK England, but I don't know if

1181
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:52,320
Speaker 2: it's the same, but I would imagine it would be

1182
01:07:52,360 --> 01:07:56,640
Speaker 2: like a manslaughter. I would say you murdered. The connotation

1183
01:07:56,840 --> 01:08:00,919
Speaker 2: does come with an expectation of intent, but I would say,

1184
01:08:00,960 --> 01:08:02,880
Speaker 2: if you kill a service welcome.

1185
01:08:02,720 --> 01:08:05,360
Speaker 1: With your car, I do you think you could say

1186
01:08:05,440 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: him casually that he murdered him?

1187
01:08:07,400 --> 01:08:10,720
Speaker 2: But you're right on market moves. This is about education

1188
01:08:11,120 --> 01:08:14,680
Speaker 2: and correct information. So if Ken did ever get held accountable,

1189
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:17,960
Speaker 2: which will never happen. He would be a manslaughterer.

1190
01:08:18,160 --> 01:08:20,200
Speaker 1: I just want to be accurate. I'm not, that's right.

1191
01:08:20,240 --> 01:08:22,320
Speaker 1: I don't have any kind of legal acumen. I am not.

1192
01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: I don't want to get much richer than him by

1193
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:28,880
Speaker 1: waist hover right, I am much richer than Clara Simons

1194
01:08:29,640 --> 01:08:32,679
Speaker 1: me and I want to be accurate. It was probably

1195
01:08:32,720 --> 01:08:33,400
Speaker 1: man's flam.

1196
01:08:33,320 --> 01:08:36,200
Speaker 2: Probably man's law, and he has had many emotional ups

1197
01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,760
Speaker 2: and downs. I don't think it's a good bet. But

1198
01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:40,719
Speaker 2: I did see Carl. I felt like he got sucked

1199
01:08:40,720 --> 01:08:44,479
Speaker 2: into the I'm putting success in inverted commis because it

1200
01:08:44,520 --> 01:08:48,200
Speaker 2: was awful, but it did go well. Kendall's back on top,

1201
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 2: and I hate to see.

1202
01:08:49,080 --> 01:08:51,760
Speaker 1: Ken is on top, and he and and you can

1203
01:08:51,840 --> 01:08:55,240
Speaker 1: see the worry on his siblings face and Roman's face,

1204
01:08:55,280 --> 01:08:59,000
Speaker 1: on Shiv's face. They're thinking, God, has Ken is? Has

1205
01:08:59,080 --> 01:09:01,240
Speaker 1: Ken strapped himself of the rocket ship to the top

1206
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,400
Speaker 1: of the mat? Has he actually done it? And Ken

1207
01:09:04,120 --> 01:09:09,200
Speaker 1: is high off of this. He then re edits his

1208
01:09:09,320 --> 01:09:13,280
Speaker 1: dad's video so that it and sends it to Roman

1209
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:17,720
Speaker 1: so that their late father again passed away forty eight

1210
01:09:17,760 --> 01:09:22,000
Speaker 1: hours ago or something is saying to Roman, I have

1211
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:25,920
Speaker 1: a big announcement to make Roman. Roy has a micro

1212
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:29,519
Speaker 1: dick and he's never been right about anything, and Roman,

1213
01:09:29,640 --> 01:09:36,599
Speaker 1: being an absolute like pain pig, watches the video again

1214
01:09:36,720 --> 01:09:39,960
Speaker 1: and that again and again and again.

1215
01:09:39,680 --> 01:09:43,160
Speaker 2: And then listens to it also actually and putant to

1216
01:09:43,240 --> 01:09:46,519
Speaker 2: note here Greg is rising up the ladder of power

1217
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:51,320
Speaker 2: very quickly, because it was Greg who illegally edited the

1218
01:09:51,439 --> 01:09:55,679
Speaker 2: deep fake style video of Logan Roy to say double

1219
01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,240
Speaker 2: wastear Roy coast value, where before it said to raise

1220
01:09:59,280 --> 01:10:03,559
Speaker 2: the value. And I feel like when it's unclear whether

1221
01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:07,600
Speaker 2: Roman knew that Kendall was gonna do that, and I

1222
01:10:07,600 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 2: feel like when he was listening to that edit, it

1223
01:10:10,240 --> 01:10:14,080
Speaker 2: was kind of like playing in his mind what Kendall

1224
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:18,439
Speaker 2: had done, not just this cruel like masochistic thing. Honestly,

1225
01:10:19,120 --> 01:10:21,439
Speaker 2: like Kendall said when he watched the original cut of

1226
01:10:21,439 --> 01:10:24,080
Speaker 2: the video and his dad was insulting the kids, he said,

1227
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,600
Speaker 2: that's a Valentine's Day card. These kids actually love to

1228
01:10:26,600 --> 01:10:30,479
Speaker 2: hear that hat. But I think Roman is feeling he's

1229
01:10:30,520 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 2: already starting to have to plan his play of how

1230
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:37,720
Speaker 2: to get rid of Kendall or get back in the

1231
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,759
Speaker 2: good books, because he's basically forgotten. Now Kendall is the CEO.

1232
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,360
Speaker 2: There's no co CEO after Roman turned down being a

1233
01:10:43,360 --> 01:10:44,360
Speaker 2: part of that speech.

1234
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:49,960
Speaker 1: How does Kin celebrate the highest moment of his professional career. Well,

1235
01:10:51,720 --> 01:10:54,200
Speaker 1: he wants to do it in water. Water has been

1236
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:59,160
Speaker 1: such an important medium for Ken. It is, of course

1237
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:02,439
Speaker 1: where he did murder a guy in water. It is

1238
01:11:02,520 --> 01:11:07,559
Speaker 1: where he tried to commit suicide in water in Italy,

1239
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:13,360
Speaker 1: and now it is where he baptizes himself at the

1240
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,360
Speaker 1: church of his own success, diving into the waves off

1241
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:21,960
Speaker 1: the coast of beautiful Malibu, emerging to stare into the

1242
01:11:22,000 --> 01:11:26,080
Speaker 1: gray slate sky and think about what a fucking badass

1243
01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,200
Speaker 1: he is, Which brings us to our final prompt of

1244
01:11:29,240 --> 01:11:34,080
Speaker 1: this double sized. Much like the stock valuation of waste

1245
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:38,080
Speaker 1: oar Home double, this episode has gone double. The final

1246
01:11:38,720 --> 01:11:42,479
Speaker 1: prompt who is the biggest threat to Ken? Ken is

1247
01:11:42,520 --> 01:11:44,519
Speaker 1: at the mountain top right now, and you know what

1248
01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:46,160
Speaker 1: that means. There's only one way to go, and that

1249
01:11:46,280 --> 01:11:50,160
Speaker 1: is down. Who if anyone will bring him down? Will

1250
01:11:50,160 --> 01:11:54,200
Speaker 1: it be Jerry, Carl and Frank the old Guard and

1251
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:59,160
Speaker 1: also Ray that guy. Will it be Shive in cohoots

1252
01:11:59,200 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: with either Tom or Matson or both? Will it be

1253
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:07,160
Speaker 1: Matson alone, Will it be Roman alone? Who is going

1254
01:12:07,320 --> 01:12:10,840
Speaker 1: to be the person who knocks Ken off of his perch.

1255
01:12:11,080 --> 01:12:13,400
Speaker 2: I'm on the Shiv train today and I'm sticking with

1256
01:12:13,479 --> 01:12:17,960
Speaker 2: it because Shiv has so much control over Matson that

1257
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:22,920
Speaker 2: in this episode, Shiv is the one who tells Mattson

1258
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:26,080
Speaker 2: do a tweet to fuck over Kendall. He does it,

1259
01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:28,920
Speaker 2: that terrible tweet, and then Shiv calls him and says,

1260
01:12:29,160 --> 01:12:31,000
Speaker 2: you need to don't that was a bad tweet, and

1261
01:12:31,040 --> 01:12:35,280
Speaker 2: he deletes the tweet. So shared tweet, mad tweet, shad tweet,

1262
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:41,479
Speaker 2: bad tweet, the words of Ken. She has a lot

1263
01:12:41,600 --> 01:12:46,120
Speaker 2: of power right now over a very irrational and edgy,

1264
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 2: but very powerful man. I think those two are a

1265
01:12:49,320 --> 01:12:55,280
Speaker 2: big threat. Even unintentionally. They could just really fuck things up.

1266
01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:57,639
Speaker 2: If they put them heads together and actually actively try

1267
01:12:57,680 --> 01:12:59,920
Speaker 2: and take Kendall down, he'd be in trouble. But there's

1268
01:12:59,920 --> 01:13:03,280
Speaker 2: also just shenanigans that could occur between them that could

1269
01:13:03,320 --> 01:13:05,840
Speaker 2: end up forcing Kendall into a bad place. So that's

1270
01:13:05,840 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 2: my bad at the end of this I like that.

1271
01:13:08,479 --> 01:13:13,640
Speaker 1: Pick two, and I think that these moments of vulnerability

1272
01:13:13,680 --> 01:13:18,720
Speaker 1: that they're giving us with Shiv, the reveal of the pregnancy,

1273
01:13:18,920 --> 01:13:23,840
Speaker 1: the tears, the kind of like deep emotional frustration and

1274
01:13:23,960 --> 01:13:26,640
Speaker 1: pain and hurt, and the betrayals of her brothers that

1275
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:31,759
Speaker 1: she's having to keep under this placid mask. I think

1276
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:38,519
Speaker 1: that they're setting us up to feel the vengeance that

1277
01:13:38,640 --> 01:13:40,559
Speaker 1: she is going to put into play. Now, is it

1278
01:13:40,600 --> 01:13:45,880
Speaker 1: gonna go? As we think this is succession and they're

1279
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:48,720
Speaker 1: always subverting us. Yes, for instance, you know, I mean

1280
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: just the fact that they give Ken a win here,

1281
01:13:50,840 --> 01:13:54,640
Speaker 1: I know is a big subversion that we're so used to.

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Speaker 1: We're so used to Ken losing, from killing a guide

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Speaker 1: and trying to kill himself to saying to wrapping you.

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Speaker 1: We're so used to him getting kicked in the ass.

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Speaker 1: That is it was quite a shock and surprise to

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Speaker 1: see him win. And I feel as if even if

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Speaker 1: Shiv does quote unquote win, it will be a chalice

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Speaker 1: with a lot of poison. Yes, I agree, And that

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Speaker 1: brings us to this edition of Market Moves. Can't wait

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Speaker 1: to talk to you next week about the upcoming episodes

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Speaker 1: of the Succession Program. We hope that you follow all

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Speaker 1: of our financial advice and succeed beyond your wildest dreams.

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Speaker 1: As the Socks will only go up is just a

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Speaker 1: word success, finance, bonds, crypto mutual funds going going up.

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Speaker 2: In today's not outway, you tell us what you love?

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Speaker 2: Am why oh a theory that you're excited to share.

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Speaker 2: David pitches us on Red Dead Redemption two and why

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Speaker 2: it should be the next video game adapted for TV.

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Speaker 2: I can't actually believe that hasn't happened yet. It's a

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Speaker 2: good idea they must be thinking about.

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Speaker 4: Hi, Jason and Rosie. My name is David, and I

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Speaker 4: want to talk to you guys about the Red Dead

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Speaker 4: Redemption universe, which I think should be the next TV

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Speaker 4: adaptation of a video game. I've played Red Dead Redemption two.

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Speaker 4: I picked it up during the pandemic when I needed

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Speaker 4: to pass the time with a new game, and I

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Speaker 4: feel like it's the best single player storyline I've ever played.

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Speaker 4: It's a huge, open world game with hours upon hours

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Speaker 4: of different main quests and side quests, and what really

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Speaker 4: makes Red Dead Redemption two special is the storyline and

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Speaker 4: the character development of not just the main character, Arthur,

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Speaker 4: but the various different side characters you get to play

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Speaker 4: along with. Especially I think Sadie Adler's is the best

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Speaker 4: character development in the game. Essentially, what you get to

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Speaker 4: do is you play as this member of the Vanderlin Gang, Arthur,

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Speaker 4: and you're traveling through a world which is leaving the

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Speaker 4: Wild West behind as America moves into the twentieth century,

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Speaker 4: and your character starts to question his loyalty to the gang,

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Speaker 4: his loyalty to his leader Dutch, and I don't want

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Speaker 4: to spoil too much, but you just get to really

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Speaker 4: see these characters grow change their mindset about the world

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Speaker 4: around them. And I think that with the many different

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Speaker 4: hours of gameplay and the character development, it really leads

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Speaker 4: itself to a TV adaptation that could span multiple seasons,

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Speaker 4: and then you could move into the story of Red

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Speaker 4: Dead Redemption one, which follows a different character that you

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Speaker 4: see grow in RDR two. So it's obviously my hope

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Speaker 4: and dream that you know, a TV company picks us

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Speaker 4: up and I get to share on the screen this

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Speaker 4: game and story that I love with people who don't

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Speaker 4: necessarily play video games all the time. So thanks for

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Speaker 4: your consideration of this Nerd out pitch and a shout

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Speaker 4: out to your sound guy Vasillis, who was a grad

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Speaker 4: school classmate of mine.

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Speaker 2: Cheers, Thanks David, If you have theories or passions you

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Speaker 2: want to share, hit us up at x ray at

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Speaker 2: cricket dot com. Instructions are in the show notes. As always,

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Speaker 2: that's it for us, Rosie any plugs. Yes, it is

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Speaker 2: Free Comic Book Day. This is a plug for you guys.

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Speaker 2: On May sixth, Free Comic Book Day will be hitting

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Speaker 2: your local comic shops. You can get free comic books.

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Speaker 2: Many different comics from all different publishers will be available

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Speaker 2: for free and you can go and grab them. I

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Speaker 2: will be doing a signing. If you are in the

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Speaker 2: LA area, you can come to Jeffrey's Comics, which is

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Speaker 2: a really brilliant local comic shop that I love me

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Speaker 2: and a bunch of my buds you've worked on Godzilla

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Speaker 2: will be there along with a load of other cool

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Speaker 2: local artists. You'll be able to grab some free comics,

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Speaker 2: get some stuff signed, buy some rad graphic novels, support

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Speaker 2: a local comic shop, Come and say hi to me.

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Speaker 2: It should be very fun.

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Speaker 1: I love it well, folks. It is May. That means

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Speaker 1: in a little over two weeks Sea nineteenth, on Amazon Prime,

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Speaker 1: program Executive produced by Michael Shore, Television's Michael Short is

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Speaker 1: a Good Place and the Office and Parks and Recreation,

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Speaker 1: and four time New York Times bestseller Chai Serrano. It

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Speaker 1: is a beautiful, wonderful single camera tail in the Michael

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Speaker 1: clutching at your heartstrings. And it's available to watch. May nineteenth.

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Speaker 2: Added to your watch list now.

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Speaker 1: Amazon Freeview added to the watch list now. Catch the

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Speaker 1: next episode of x ray Vision Friday, May fifth, in

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Speaker 1: which we will discuss the final installment of the Guardians

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Speaker 1: of the Galaxy trilogy, Guardians of the Galaxy Volume three.

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Speaker 2: What a wild ride.

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Speaker 1: It's a bit, It's a wild ride.

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Speaker 2: If you want to see us as well as listen

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Speaker 2: to us, you can subscribe on YouTube. Well you've watched

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Speaker 2: full episodes of the show, can follow us on Twitter,

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Speaker 2: x r V pod and check out the discord to

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Speaker 2: me and hang out with tons of amazing fans and

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Speaker 2: listeners plus Jason and Mayern't that that's right?

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Speaker 1: Five star ratings. Five star reviews us we need them.

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Speaker 1: Here's one from Johnny Blass. Fantastic. Jason and Rosie are

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Speaker 1: very well researched and hilarious. Thank you love this podcast.

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Speaker 1: Their love of comics has introduced me and throw me

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Speaker 1: my children to the wonderful world of comics. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for your commitment to excellence.

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Speaker 2: Thanks oh John, Thank you Johnny.

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Speaker 1: X ray Vision is a Crooked Media production of the

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Speaker 1: show is produced by Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. The

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Speaker 1: show is executive produced by myself and Sandy or art Our.

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Speaker 1: Editing and sound designers by Vasillis Fatopoulos, Dilon Villanueva and

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Speaker 1: Matt De Group provide video production support. Alex Rella for

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Speaker 1: Handle social Media. Thank you Brian Vasquez for a theme music.

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Speaker 2: See you next time. Bye,